Can't clear offline storage, 2.53.6
Hi, In my profile is a directory called 'storage', which then has three sub-dirs called 'default', 'permanent', 'temporary'. These dirs are full of junk like sqlite databases. What is the proper way to clear all this 'storage' so that it doesn't keep coming back? Trying to do it from "Edit : Preferences" doesn't seem to work at all. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No access to Acronis site
Cecil Bankston wrote: When I try to access Acronis.com or its sections with SeaMonkey I get a 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable page. I use NoScript, but I have allowed all scripts on the site. I have to use Edge to view the site. It does branch based on the user agent string, but I think there's also a misconfiguration going on at their end. 503 usually means there's a proxy server that's become disconnected. If you set the user agent to just 'Mozilla/5.0' it doesn't give that error anymore. If you have a way to contact them, it would be worth reporting it. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Updates: General
WaltS48 wrote: What is EPEL? Ubuntu doesn't provide SeaMonkey in its main repo anymore. I have to download and install each new version over the old. An internal app update mechanism would be greatly appreciated. EPEL is "Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux", you can add it as a repository to either RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) or to CentOS. The packages are in RPM format, (Red Hat Package Manager). The package manager is a robust way to manage installed programs, for example checking dependencies and preventing conflicts. Ubuntu uses APT and *.deb packages. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Updates: General
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Just one question to that: I have an ancient profile which I found on an unused machine and where I'd like to at least have access to the emails there. Would a modern Seamonkey be able to understand them I'd say it's important that you upgrade (and test) any old profiles as soon as possible, so they're at least compatible with the current version. Make (and keep) a backup before upgrading. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Updates: General
Edmund Wong wrote: Now fast forward a few years to 2020 after working on this on-and-off. With the release process still being half-manually generated (though the process has gotten a bit faster), I figured I'd tackle this update issue once and for all. The way it works on Linux distros is really much better than I remember on Windows where individual apps had their own updaters with their own schedules, installers, and admin rights. On Linux distros, you run a simple command and the whole o/s (and all apps) offer their updates. SeaMonkey is already in EPEL for example, so it's a ten second job to update it. You don't need to run an exe file (installer), you just copy a few files, and you can even downgrade. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: <https://www.dw.com/en/space-trash-cleanup-esa-signs-off-on-first-ever-mission/a-55740379> Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript. Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me if I should continue or abort the script. Aborting it works fine. I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the newer level does. Maybe NoScript is blocking the bad script for me. It generally allows any script that's served from the same domain, but NOT a script from a different domain. Most bad scripts and ads come from different domains so NoScript tends to block them... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5
Jonathan N. Little wrote: <https://www.dw.com/en/space-trash-cleanup-esa-signs-off-on-first-ever-mission/a-55740379> Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does Seamonkey support the drm content like Netflix or Spotify?
Hiệp Mai wrote: I use the Seamonkey on linux. Does it support widevine drm or something else? Thanks for advance As far as I know, Seamonkey does NOT implement or support DRM. It's unclear (to me) whether Widevine is "safe" or not, e.g. some of it is open source, but it's considered bad. It's used by many TV web sites that offer catch-up services. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can I stop all the "Flipping & Flopping" on FoxNews ?
DoctorBill wrote: I used to visit "FoxNews" web site, but it is so filled with THIS & THAT loading and the screen never settles down due to krap loading constantly ! Can you give an exact URL to a page and explain what you expect to see on it (e.g. a news story about xyz), and compare with what you see instead (e.g. a video starts playing after five seconds, or the text jumps to the top of the screen) -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Edward wrote: Fedora 32, x86_64: seamonkey-2.53.3-3.fc32.x86_64 PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 4766 edward 20 0 3463452 625444 174552 S 2.7 16.6 7:08.80 seamonk+ The above is from 'top' as of right now. As I am not on YouTube right now and Swap isn't being used, there is /currently/ no slowdown in performance. YouTube also has music. Some individual tracks from albums will also display a static video, it's usually the album cover for the duration of the track. Ok that's good info, but you need to show the initial state, and then the state after xxx minutes showing the problem. It sounds like a 'youtube' issue, as opposed to a SeaMonkey issue. You need to do the same test with some media that is not on youtube, e.g. put it on your own web server. The videos that just show an album cover are not music, they are videos, but with just one frame repeated, I'm not sure if it plays the same frame thousands of times, or if it somehow knows there's only one frame and freezes it, but either way, it's still a video. If you can show that playing a music file in SeaMonkey, that is not on youtube, is using progressively more memory as it plays, then that would be a serious problem in SeaMonkey. Do you know which libraries SeaMokey uses behind the scenes to play media files? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
Edward wrote: I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through YouTube or a web site, after it's been running for a while. This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage of memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other web browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition becomes active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system. Which Fedora Supplied package and which o/s distro, version? On Linux, you should quickly be able to see who is using what, for example using "System Monitor" and then go to "Processes", sort by Memory with highest at the top. You should see SeaMonkey at abnout 300MiB Note the value from a cold start, then time how long before it reaches the value that you are concerned about. It's unlikely listening to music would cause this, but the word "youtube" rings alarm bells as it's not "music", it's running hundreds of horrible JavaScripts launching hundreds of adverts and attacking your computer. If you think it's music, trace the URL to the real music file (or stream) and run the same test again (outside of youtube). I didn't even know youtube had music, I thought it was video. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied
Doors wrote: Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few random websites. With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem. You need to provide an exact URL to a page that can be checked by others without signing in, and also clarify the exact error or behaviour that you are seeing. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!
Edmund Wong wrote: The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.53.3. A quick flash of progress bar, then Works first time. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube's web site got redesigned again...
Ant wrote: Can you give an example of a page that is slow, and also check it in dev tools to see which requests are taking too long. https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions and any of your subscribed channels' videos. In error console, I saw a lot of warnings. How can I copy all to paste? I only can do one by one. :( I only see a "sign in" page, and it loads very fast. There's no point reporting something is "slow" unless you have a concrete example and have tested in dev tools. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: YouTube's web site got redesigned again...
Ant wrote: ... and it's so slow in my poor old 64-bit SeaMonkey v2.53.2 web browser on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :( Can you give an example of a page that is slow, and also check it in dev tools to see which requests are taking too long. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.
Ant wrote: I guess it's only me? https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/632c79c9-89c6-471e-91b4-42d9a0200614 as of a few minutes ago. :( Has this only been happening since you moved to SeaMonkey 2.53.2? I was only Win7 x64 for nearly ten years with no crashes at all, (using SeaMonkey up to 2.49.x). You should see a matching event in the application event log, you can copy and paste it. xul.dll could mean it's related to a plugin. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: rt.com works in 2.57. Just checked briefly but not sure which feature it needs. Need to look if I find something. He's talking about comments on the page https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/ When you say 2.57, you mean SeaMonkey 2.57, is that a new unofficial release? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/11/2020 9:19 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not. RT = Radio Times Heh. The domain www.rt.com is owned by ANO "TV-Novosti", a Russia-based news service funded by the Russian government. I liked the Radio Times idea, but yes it's funded by Russia, but I've never seen any Russian propaganda; it seems to be mainly US commentators talking about the US. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 6/11/2020 9:12 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? Nope. I disabled their autoplays. I play when I am ready. In that case, you could just open a tab when ready. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
David E. Ross wrote: Under U.S. copyright law: * Okay for personal use. * Illegal for commercial use, for distribution, or for replaying in a commercial environment (e.g., in a restaurant you own). Yes, but it's unlikely he'll be selling the videos, plus youtube makes them available outside the US, plus I very much doubt youtube owns the copyright on them anyway. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote: https://www.rt.com/business/491361-us-sanctions-russian-gas-europe/ at the time 08:02 BST there were 47 posts. OK, it works in FireFox, but not in SeaMonkey The comments come from a site called spot.im When Seamonkey makes the request to spot.im, it gets this error Timestamp: 11/06/2020, 17:37:22 GMT+1 Error: TypeError: t.composedPath is not a function Source File: https://static-cdn.spot.im/production/conversation/tags/v3.14.48/conversation-bundle.js Line: 1 I've only ever seen that site with NoScript enabled, and I can't believe how much junk suddenly appeared when I had to test it just now with NoScript disabled. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
Ray_Net wrote: Why youtube did not make available for any video .. a "Download Button" ? :-) It's true, but in some ways youtube are the ones stealing from the artists and content creators. If you watch a streaming video, does it mean you've stolen it, then if you SAVE that video, does it suddenly mean you've stolen it. If you record a radio programme to a cassette tape, or a TV programme to VCR, what then? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: btw, when I saw "rt" I first thought of the Radio Times. Maybe not. RT = Radio Times Heh. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Plugin for Seamonkey
Ray_Net wrote: Isn't it reprehensible to steal videos or audios I assume this is joking, but I don't see how it can be stealing when the door is wide open. If the video was behind a paywall, and you broke in and then sold it to someone else, it might be stealing. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Page display on www.rt.com
andy.stas...@gmail.com wrote: Upgraded Seamonkey from 2.49.5 to 2.53.2 from zip file. Now I cannot see comments posted to pages from RT. Anyone else seeing this? Can you give the exact URL of page that has comments, but are not showing? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open, but yes, everyone knows that if you visit huge data sucking sites that run thousands of "affiliate" scripts, then bad things will happen. Memory use can be a bit misleading anyway, because modern applications will sometimes keep huge chunks of memory in the background "in case they're suddenly needed", trying to trick the user into thinking they're getting better performance. However, a well written app should free the memory when it closes. I don't know how you measured it, but there's a really good extension in Seamonkey called "SeaMonkey Debug and QA UI", that shows you what's going on inside the browser, including memory, and there's even a menu item where you can "Flush Memory". -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.53.2
stango wrote: Oops, make that Tools>Add-ons Manager>Extensions. OK, I see it now. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.53.2
stango wrote: Events column is Lightening Calendar. Click on the lower right corner where it says Today and it will shrink. Thanks, that has made it go away, but where did it come from? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.53.2
Gerry Hickman wrote: 2. All my messages from this newsgroup, mozilla.support.seamonkey, seem to have gone, and I only see new threads from today. I'm nost sure why the old messages did not carry over Correction; the old messages are still there when I view "all threads", it seems they all got marked as "read" and that's why I could not see them. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.53.2
I've just upgraded from 2.53.1b1 to 2.53.2 All my bookmarks and emails are as they were before, but there are some things that have changed: 1. I'm now seeing an "Events" pane on the right hand side of mail and news, but it wasn't there in 2.53.1b1 2. All my messages from this newsgroup, mozilla.support.seamonkey, seem to have gone, and I only see new threads from today. I'm nost sure why the old messages did not carry over -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site
Ant wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Why not v2.53.2? Good question. I need to upgrade, but I also need to move profile, so it's taking a bit of planning. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site
flyguy wrote: What SM version are you and Gerry using? In SeaMonkey : About, mine says User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Unexpected error" on CDC site
flyguy wrote: -- Unexpected Error An unexpected error occurred. If you continue to receive this error please contact your Tableau Server Administrator. Session ID: C45C773C1E6F46C6913E65340D18A29F-0:0 TypeError: window.performance.getEntriesByName(...)[0] is undefined -- This error is not coming from cdc.gov, it's coming from tableau.com it's trying to use a feature described here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Performance/getEntriesByName for some reason the charts are working for me there's also a direct link to the chart https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_05202020/WeeklyExcessDeaths -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Home Depot videos don't play
From a quick look: If you mean the three videos on the left, that underline when you hover over them. I don't think this is related to video playback, but more to do with JavaScript. When I click the link I see an error in the SeaMonkey "Error Console". Timestamp: 26/05/2020, 17:25:44 GMT+1 Error: ReferenceError: event is not defined Source File: https://assets.homedepot-static.com/p/smart/js/0.bf3bab0be1adc42d801e.js Line: 1 Daniel wrote: flyguy wrote on 26/05/2020 3:57 AM: Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do play if I use Chrome. What's wrong? I clicked on your link (that you posted later) and found that the videos didn't play in my SM 2.49.5 Oh Well!! Then I noticed the price $69.95 (or whatever) which included the Battery and there was a button for the Tool only for $49.00!! But I couldn't then get back to the original page (Tool + Battery) i.e. the Back Button was Greyed Out, so it seems there are other problems with this page in SM! By-the-By, when I mouse over the three pictures or over the picture of the trimmer itself, the mouse icon changes to a Hand, which I think means SM thinks it's over a click-able link but no link address is showing at bottom of screen! -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2
Yamo' wrote: I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen during the upgrade... You need to clarify what you mean by "upgrade"? I thought the install process on Linux was just to extract the x64 binaries, so the upgrade process would be: 1. Write down the profile location 2. Back up the profile 3. Back up the old SeaMonkey binaries 4. Extract the new SeaMonkey binaries -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Spoofing (?) in Seamonkey
Chuck wrote: I just had to go to Firefox to do my taxes because Turbotax would not run in Seamonkey. Here's their page about supported browsers https://turbotax.intuit.com/personal-taxes/online/system-requirements According to this, it's not just browser support, they don't support linux at all. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
Ant wrote: Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 Newer Firefox versions (e.g., v73) had no issues though. :/ Ok, that's odd, I know there are moves (in the latest browsers) to disable certain types of invasive behaviour, but I'm not aware of anything that different between FireFox and SeaMonkey right now. Have you confirmed for example that FireFox is using less resources than SeaMonkey when opening the same tabs and visiting the same sites? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Isn't SeaMonkey v2.53.1's web browser supposed to be using the faster Gecko web engine?
Ant wrote: YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are still slow and taking up a lot of RAM with multiple tabs in my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM, 2 SATA HDDs, etc.). I would say this is expected. Those "big" sites will fire up so many http connections, bandwidth hogs and JavaScript loops, that it's a wonder they run at all. Plus I hope you don't have video autostart enabnled. Some ways forward 1. Switch to Linux (I'd expect RAM usage to drop from around 5.9G [with heavy paging] to around 1.9G without paging), JavaScript will be slightly faster, but this won't fix bandwidth. Not sure Win7 is even covered by security policy. 2. Install NoScript classic. This will block a huge amount of ad related JavaScript and prevent a huge number of http connections. 3. Might be worth doing some system profiling, check if the CPU, RAM, Disk I/O and Network bandwidth is really being used by the web browser, or by something else, e.g. use Resource Manager in Win7 -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Modify two request headers
I have a router with a web interface. It worked with SeaMonkey 2.7, but recent versions of SeaMonkey add two headers to each request DNT: 1 Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1 the router doesn't like any header that it doesn't understand I found a way to "fix" this in FireFox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-modify-header/ You create a URL pattern, so it only affects one site, then you tell it to remove the two headers you don't want (for that site only) Just wondering if there's a way to do this in SeaMonkey? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile and Offline Storage
alexyu wrote: The ability to report the size in data manager is no longer there. Clearing still works but some new storage types need to be accounted for too. Something which will be fixed later. FRG But the main question I see is whether this storage (or "these storages", since there are several) should be cleared or not, and when/why? The reason why you should be able to clear them, is related to "privacy", and also reducing garbage in the profile. The SeaMonkey interface indicates that you can check the size, and also that you can clear them down, but my original post (and David's post above) indicates that when you press "clear" in SeaMonkey, they don't get deleted. However, Frank says above that "clearing still works", so it's a bit confusing. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile and Offline Storage
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: I read the bug report, but don't understand what you mean by "hide the 0 byte per default". Is this something I need to change in SeaMonkey Preferences? No it is a bug in SeaMonkey OK, so my understanding of it, is that the offline storage api is still used by SeaMonkey, but the ability to report it's size, and to clear it down do not work? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Profile and Offline Storage
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: A long long time ago some storage api was discontinued. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1045989 Did look at this from time to time but no time to fix. Best is probably to hide the 0 byte per default. I read the bug report, but don't understand what you mean by "hide the 0 byte per default". Is this something I need to change in SeaMonkey Preferences? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Profile and Offline Storage
In my SeaMonkey profile is a directory called 'storage/default' and within that directory there are dozens of websites listed with sqlite databases. I'm guessing this is related to "offline storage", but I've just gone to "Preferences : Advanced : Offline Storage", and it says I'm using zero bytes of storage and clearing it makes no difference. I'm using SeaMonkey/2.53.1, but I think this was the same in my previous version. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Profile and inspec...@mozilla.org
Trying to clean up a Profile from SeaMonkey 4.49.4 I noticed a folder with a huge number of files Mozilla\6h7voxtg.default\extensions\inspec...@mozilla.org Is it safe to delete this folder? It looks like it's quite old ... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Images using data-src tag?
Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
You need the 'Classic' version 5.1.9, not the 'Quantum' version that
only works with newer vandalised FF versions.
Thanks,
I installed NoScript classic XPI
then added these two config entries
noscript.surrogate.ibm.replacement
for (let ii of document.querySelectorAll("img[data-src]")){
ii.setAttribute("src", ii.getAttribute("data-src")); }
noscript.surrogate.ibm.sources
!@https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-virtual-filesystem-switch/*
and the page worked correctly straight away!
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Re: Images using data-src tag?
You can provide UserJS or, more easily, if (as you should) you have NoScript installed Thanks, I had a quick look at NoScript, but it says it's only for Firefox, not SeaMonkey? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Images using data-src tag?
Browsing to this page, with SeaMonkey/2.49.4, the images seem to be missing? I think they're using a "data-src" tag. https://developer.ibm.com/tutorials/l-virtual-filesystem-switch/ -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Official x64
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: You can pick Bills build in the meantime: http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ Thanks for the link. After reading the warnings, I might need to stay on x86 for now. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey Official x64
I need to re-install SM due to auto-update not working, but I can only find the x86 build. Is there an x64 build? I don't need any plugins. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Website eats memory
meagain wrote: If I let the website https://www.rawstory.com/... just view in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 Memory gets gobbled up slowly but surely. My guess is that the site is playing all it's little videos at once and loading more. How can I stop it from playing videos? If you're sure it's related to the videos, or you want to disable autoplay anyway, you could try setting media player plugins to "ask to activate", and for HTML5 video, you could try about:config media.autoplay.enabled : false -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How does SM play MP4 video on Windows?
Hi, I'm interested to know how SM plays MP4 video. For example does it have it's own hand coded player (unlikely), or does it use a ready built player API? My guess is that it's using Media Foundation (like Windows Media Player), but how? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fresh Win2K problems..
A Williams wrote: Are you sure you don't mean Windows ME? It was the Windows 98 successor and was an utter mess. Windows 2000 came between Win NT 4.whatever and Win XP Pro, it was definitely not a turkey. Win2k was effectively NTv5, very stable (and very fast) in a corporate environment. Unfortunately, as others have pointed out, security updates are not available. The other big issue was x64 support. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Block Requests to specific domain?
Is it possible to prevent SeaMonkey making requests to a certain domain? I know you can "block images" from a certain domain, but can you tell SM to never make any kind of request to that domain? e.g. a domain called ads.com, with servers, x.ads.com, y.ads.com can you block any request to *.ads.com? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 500 Internal Server Error Code Where Not Expected - SM 2.46, W10 Pro Laptop
Bo1953 wrote: Hello all - over the last few days I have received a 500 Internal Server Error Code error when trying to access my web mail and DHS website. Also for my web mail I get the pop up box indicating that the site is untrusted. A few possibilities: 1. The genuine server at the other end is broken. They probably know about it by now (after many complaints), and have fixed it. 2. A domain has expired and you're getting bounced off to a different server (usually full of adverts) which is giving the 500 error. 3. Your network has been hijacked and you're being bounced to a fake server. A possible solution is to log in to your hosting provider's home page DIRECTLY and check your settings for things like DNS. Another option is to post the exact URL for the website where you make the initial request - someone here will be able to tell you if the DNS is messed up. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 eMail Loss
I updated to 2.46 from 2.40 on my Laptop using Win Business Vista 2, I Am not able to retrieve/see over 18 months of email for only one account. The first thing to do is locate your old SeaMonkey profile and see if the files are still there. e.g. C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\69y9sdxz.default I have reverted to SM 2.40 and still not able to find the messages... In general, it's not a good idea to "revert" because your profile would have been updated to a newer version, and reverting can cause data loss. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Basic Authentication issue in 2.46
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Is it possible to disable the 'Upgrade-Insecure-Requests' header in SeaMonkey? Any references to Insecure in about:config? I found these four, tried toggling the first, but no luck... network.websocket.allowInsecureFromHTTPS security.tls.insecure_fallback_hosts security.warn_submit_insecure services.sync.prefs.sync.security.warn_submit_insecure -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Basic Authentication issue in 2.46
I have a SiteCom router with an embedded web server. For many years I was able to log in from SeaMonkey by typing http://10.0.0.1/ and then the user name and password. This still works in older versions of SM and FF, but not in SM 2.46 I believe the issue is related to a new HTTP header being sent by SM 2.46 Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1 I set up a raw HTTP test on a linux VM (without using a browser) and tested both with and without this header. Request with header : Authentication FAILS Request without header : Authentication WORKS It's quite strange, as I don't see how the router can even know about this header as it's too old. I also noticed something even more odd, if I change the header to something like BlahBlahBalh: 1 the authentication also fails, but if I use BlahBlahBalh: one everything starts working Is it possible to disable the 'Upgrade-Insecure-Requests' header in SeaMonkey? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Weird mouse click results
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Is this on Windows - what version? Uh... did you read my message? Ah, I had read the text, but missed the User Agent string at the end User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Apparently you didn't. As I said: When a message is selected in the message list, it displays in the preview pane. I only rarely "open" messages in a separate window. I also use the preview pane, but if I double click, it opens in a new window, and the preference may be relevant in that case... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Weird mouse click results
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I normally have Mail/News open in three panes: the account/folder list on the left, the message list at top right, and the preview pane at bottom right. This sounds the same as my layout, and I'm not seeing this. I normally just see the message in the preview pane. If I double click the message, it opens in it's own "1980s" style window, but if I close that new window, it just goes away, it does not exit the whole of SM. Is this on Windows - what version? One pref I noticed is "Edit : Preferences : Mail & Newsgroups : Message Display". There's an option to open the message in a "new" window or an "existing" window; not sure what the difference is, but mine says "existing". -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: new settings that work (but look wrong) print_paper_height, -1.00 print_paper_width, -1.00 These are not used/set/reset in SeaMonkey code. -1 sounds like some sort of default and is also used in Firefox. Seems the print dialog and functions got a major update in Gecko 49 which corresponds to 2.46: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1189846 So it seems this is Gecko code, not SM code, so could also be affecting FF? reading bugzilla id=1189846, it looks like these are major code changes related to printing, and much of it appears to be experimental. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Gerry Hickman wrote:
The bug report is exactly the same issue as I am seeing.
I tested removing certain print related settings from prefs.js
(about:config), and I'm now able to switch between a browser that is
able to print, and a browser that hangs.
I found two categories of "print" settings in prefs.js
1. "print_printer", {printer name} and "printer_{printer name}", {value}
2. "print.print_printer", {printer name} and "print.printer_{printer
name}", {value}
Category #1 (without the 'dot') seem to be irrelevant - I deleted all of
them, and printing was still broken.
Category #2 (with the 'dot') are the settings that were causing the
issue. If I delete all of them, I lose the old page setup parameters,
but I'm able to print, and any new page setup parameters will be written
back to prefs.js.
I also tried to narrow down the specific settings in category #2 that
were causing the issue, and it looks like the "print_paper_{setting}"
and related settings.
old settings that cause hang (but look correct)
print_paper_height, 11.00
print_paper_width, 8.50
new settings that work (but look wrong)
print_paper_height, -1.00
print_paper_width, -1.00
So there's an easy workaround for the technical user, but this is not a
great upgrade experience for a non-technical user. Either way, a setting
in prefs.js should not be able to cause a browser hang, it suggests
parsing (and validation) of parameters is not as it should be. I'm
fairly sure this must be related to recent changes to the SeaMonkey
code, as it was always stable in the past.
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Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Peter Nieman wrote: On 05/01/17 11:21, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: "Bug 1328603 - Print and Print Preview most times hangs, PP shows damaged contents if not hangs" <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1328603>? I ran into the same problem just an hour ago (Win7). The solution (inspired by the reporter of the above-mentioned bug) was to open the page "about:config" in the browser and reset all the printer-related entries marked as "user set" (except "print_printer"). The bug report is exactly the same issue as I am seeing. I did look at about:config and there are many settings that say "user set", and not just related to printers, but I don't remember setting any of them? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Mason83 wrote: My bad. "End Task" probably sends the Windows equivalent of SIGKILL, i.e. a signal that kills a process without giving it a chance to perform the "last rites" ;-) Hence no stack unwinding from the breakpad signal handler. Question to Windows admins: is there a way to send the equivalent of SIGTERM to a process? I.e. request graceful termination. It probably tries SIGTERM (WM_CLOSE), but then ends up doing SIGKILL. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Didn't check with 2.46 yet but works fine here with 2.48. I can only see official build for SM 2.46, Win, x86. Did you build it from source? I've now found it hangs trying to print any web page, even local HTML files. Safe mode is no different. As I understand it, I can't go back to 2.40 without risking data loss due to new sqlite format and POP3 message store incompatibility... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
I've found a way to reproduce it Navigate to http://www.lgo.org.uk/ Select "File : Print Preview" On my machine, this causes SM to stop responding... Gerry Hickman wrote: Mason83 wrote: When you kill SM with "End Task", SM generates a stack dump. What do you have in about:crashes ? There's only two reports from 2014 and 2015, nothing from today. It was a "hang" rather than a "crash", but "End Task" did close it. I forgot to mention that one of the CPUs was also locked at 100% -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Mason83 wrote: When you kill SM with "End Task", SM generates a stack dump. What do you have in about:crashes ? There's only two reports from 2014 and 2015, nothing from today. It was a "hang" rather than a "crash", but "End Task" did close it. I forgot to mention that one of the CPUs was also locked at 100% -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.46 hangs trying to print
Hi, Windows 7, SM 2.46 I've been auto-updated to 2.46, and trying to print a web page now causes a complete hang - only way out is to "end task" This happened with two different pages within https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/ I've never had issues printing from SM in the past... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe updated FLASH for Linux...
Mason83 wrote: I thought Flash was dead? Many web sites and web designers have moved away from it, and more towards open standards, an example being HTML5 video, but it will probably be a long time before it's completely gone. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Save HTML5 Video
David E. Ross wrote: Try the Download YouTube Videos as MP4 extension from <https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/download-youtube>. Thanks, that extension works well, and is able to download a youtube video, even if it uses ranges. However, I'm more interested in how it's supposed to work with the browser's built-in video player? If this type of video adheres to open standards, which appears to be the case, then it should be possible for the video player within the browser to detect the ranges and download the full video... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Don't autoplay sounds, animations, videos
Hi, In SeaMonkey there's an amazing feature where you can "ask to activate". This can be set with the Adobe Flash plugin, and will prevent the Flash animation from starting until you tell it to. I think there used to be a similar feature for animated gifs, and sounds. However, in 2016, many adverts simply start a video with soundtrack (e.g. HTML5) and it seems that these can start on their own or via JavaScript. Is there any way to use "ask to activate" so they will only start when you tell them to? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Save HTML5 Video
Hi, Most browsers are now able to play HTML5 video, instead of needing something like Adobe Flash. It's great to be able to use an open standard instead of Flash and it means the browser can offer it's own menus for things like Play, Pause, Stop, Save As... But, some sites (like YouTube) serve HTML5 video as around 100 separate files, with part 01 pointing to part 02 and so on (ranges). While the browser is playing part 01, it's downloading part 02 in the background. This can break the "Save As..." feature, where it will only download part 01 and then stop... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: There are two "update now" links, on two different pages, that act differently. 1) At SeaMonkey's own Add-ons Manager, a plugin known to be outdated will be listed thus: XXX is known to be vulnerable and should be updated. Update now. This text hyperlink unexpectedly takes the user to an explanation of why the plugin is blocked, and not to the publisher's update page. This should be fixed. Yes, that's the part that seems to be broken. In my case, the other problem was that I thought you could update plugins from within SeaMonkey. > My recommendation is to provide two links: "Why is it blocked?" with the current target, and "Update now" with the expected target at the publisher's update page. 2) At the Plugin Check page <https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/>, "Update Now" buttons act as expected -- they take the user to the publisher's update page. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Desiree wrote: https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/installation-problems-flash-player-windows.html Look under the section "Still Having Problems?" There you can download the full, off line installer to disk. Thanks! That's a really good tip. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Chris Ilias wrote: Here's another example of a blocked message https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p1246 Okay, I just wanted to clarify, because Mozilla doesn't offer plugins, and doesn't have a plugins site. :) The page at Tools-->Add-ons_Manager-->Plugins lists the plugins you have already installed. Plugins are offered by third-parties, and are not installed by SeaMonkey. OK, so I think you're saying the "Update Now" button is supposed to take you to the 3rd party site, instead of showing a "blocked" message, and further to this, that plugins are not to be confused with 'extensions', which can be installed from addons.mozilla.org. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/download/?installer=FP_23_for_Firefox_-_NPAPI=1 It is the complete FP23x. It is not a 1k stub. Ok, that seems to work! -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: No, as previously noted, it's not "offering," it's "detecting." It's saying "this is what you have." But it also has an "Update Now" button, and that's the part that doesn't work. It's supposed to take you to the latest version of the plugin so that you can install it (inside SM). This is more important, for example, if you have SM users who don't have admin rights. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Chris Ilias wrote: Per exemple https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ Where we can see: Adobe Flash Player Shockwave Flash 22.0 r0 v. 22.0.0.209 vulnerable with an "UPDATE NOW" button to install this vulnerable version Gerry Hickman, is the above link what you were referring to? Chris, as explained in my original post, I'm talking about "Tools : Add-ons Manager : Plugins". When I try to update from within SeaMonkey, it offers an out-of-date version and says it's "blocked". I think it's pointing to the site https://addons.mozilla.org/ Here's another example of a blocked message https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p1246 -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: My SM gives me the option to run or save. I normally choose save then use the firewall to block internet access (or pull the plug) then run from hdd. Not just for Flash but for everything. 19,672 kb is more then an installer stub, it's the whole thing. You are right about the file size, I'm not sure how you got it from their site. When I try it, I just get the installer stub. Can you give an exact URL where you obtain the 19,672kb file. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Gerry Hickman wrote: That URL is the usual "Install Now" option. There is a link on that page, where you can choose a different operating system, and download an EXE, but isn't that just a download manager in disguise, or are you saying the EXE is an offline installer? Does it extract the MSI to a temp location first? A possible solution to this on Windows (outside of SM) is to visit http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/strategies/sms.html click the download link (of interest) ending in "SCUP.cab" You should now be able to extract the XML file from the CAB file using 7-Zip Inside the XML file are the links to the MSI files, see the "OriginUri" attributes. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Ed Mullen wrote: It's blocked because that version is out of date. Current version is 23.0.0.162. I understand that, but why would the Mozilla plugin site be offering an out-of-date plugin, and then saying it's blocked? You can try Check for updates in the add-ons manager. Unfortunately, that just gives the same error... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: I go to the Adobe download page, click download, save to hdd, and install from there. It works great and I have a copy that I can send to the other computers via the LAN. I use my firewall to block flash from phoning home. There is no online install process. It's quick and easy. https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ That URL is the usual "Install Now" option. There is a link on that page, where you can choose a different operating system, and download an EXE, but isn't that just a download manager in disguise, or are you saying the EXE is an offline installer? Does it extract the MSI to a temp location first? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Mason83 wrote: Adobe used to host an offline installer anyone could download. It seems like they now require some personal info first: https://www.adobe.com/products/players/flash-player-distribution.html Yes, I'd been using the old URL to get to the MSI files, but they've taken it down now. I did apply for distribution rights, but I'd rather be able to do it through SM. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Adobe Flash Plugin Update
Hi, When I go to "Tools: Addons Manager : Plugins" there's an entry for "Shockwave Flash", but it doesn't work. I'm not sure if it ever worked. "Flash Player Plugin 22.0.0.192 to 22.0.0.211 (click-to-play) has been blocked for your protection." I know I can install it via the operating system, but I don't like the official web based Adobe installation process. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delayed Initialization?
David E. Ross wrote: It seems that when I launch SeaMonkey, there is always a delay in visiting the first Web page I select. If I clear that site's cookies and delete my cache, revisiting that page is much quicker. I have the blue circle throbber on my menu bar. With the first Web page after launching, it does not "bubble" right away. Instead, there is a delay of 2-3 seconds. Reading this again, I think I misunderstood what you were reporting. I read the first paragraph, and assumed you were saying SM was slow to launch (slow to render the main window for the first time). Now looking at the second paragraph, I think you're saying SM renders the main Window quite quickly, BUT then takes time to load the actual HTML web page? Further to this, I don't really understand the second paragraph, about the "throbber" and the "bubble". In my SM theme I just have a "stop" button on the toolbar (not the menu bar) and I have a status bar at the bottom of the main window. One other idea for your specific issue, have you tried disabling extensions and plugins and launching again? My launch issue is different. In my case it was taking a long time (three seconds) from clicking the shortcut, before the main Window appeared on the screen. I did some tracing and found it was related to WinSock. I disabled the Windows Firewall (FOR TESTING ONLY) and it launched straight away. My network stack is a mess with six different virtual adapters (I need to clean it up) the firewall is probably waiting for a disconnected network adapter that is timing out. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delayed Initialization?
David E. Ross wrote: I have reset the size of my cache to 0. A prior reply in this thread -- about how high-speed broadband makes caching unnecessary I think what they said about browser caching is true, but I also think there's no need to mess with the SM cache settings (when everything else is working normally). On my own system, I change the cache location to a "local temp" location to keep it out of my "roaming" profile. This is in order to make backup easier. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delayed Initialization?
David E. Ross wrote: On 8/10/2016 1:36 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: David E. Ross wrote: However, what I see is that the same Web page -- my own on a Web server -- loads much slower if it is the first Web page I request right after launching SeaMonkey. If I clear my cache and then request it again, it load very quickly. Try the same test, but with google as your home page. Do you still get slow result for first page load? I've seen low traffic web servers take a few seconds to "wake up". I do not think that is the cause. My home page is an HTML file on my hard drive. There is no server to wake up upon launching SeaMonkey. To clarify this specific point, did you not say "my own on a Web server" two paragraphs above? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Delayed Initialization?
David E. Ross wrote: It seems that when I launch SeaMonkey, there is always a delay in visiting the first Web page I select. If I clear that site's cookies and delete my cache, revisiting that page is much quicker. My experience on Windows, is that it's changed over time. At one stage there was a "preload" of DLLs that were supposed to load once, then sit on the task bar to make the browser load more quickly (I didn't like this), but anyway, a few builds later (around year 2004) launching the SM browser was really quick and I forgot about it. To test SM load time, I usually set the home page to a local HTML file, so it doesn't need internet access to launch, thereby cutting out any home page related network issues. Now in 2016, I get "slow" load time of around four seconds, but I think it's related to something in the network stack (e.g. winsock) where it's much more bloated that it used to be, and in my case there's a VPN virtual adapter which seems to cause a delay. There's also the SM user profile and SM cache which can get quite big, so it's worth trying with a clean profile. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey24.0 x Win 7
Harsha Godavari wrote: I have nearly 1.0GB of data on my ISP's mail server (including Inbox/Sent etc going back a long time). I am going to install Seamonkey24.0 on my system. I would like to download all that data onto my computer including all the old messages. Can I do this With Seamonkey? If so I would appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you. You need to clarify what you mean by "mail server". If it's a P0P3 server, you'd normally set up SeaMonkey to download the mail each day and (by default) delete it from the POP3 server at the same time. This way, your email will only exist on your local machine and you will need to have good local backup. Many people use "web based email" which is really just an HTML web page showing you the messages (inbox / sent) on your ISPs big central server (some support IMAP), and your ISP would be "responsible" for backup. The help file inside SeaMonkey has good information on setting up email accounts. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moved from SM 2.26 to 2.40 - Now have problem with "File bookmark" menu choice
Richard Owlett wrote: That green thing you circled must be new fangled [I date from Netscape 4.? days ;] The same arrows are there when using File Bookmark. You may need to resize the window. <http://ilias.ca/screencasts/sm-filebookmark.mp4> It does work, but it's not good UI design. I seems to remember "Bookmarks : File Bookmark..." was really easy and quick in the original SeaMonkey? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email signature
Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Composition & Addressing - Include signature for forwards. Thanks. That's helpful. I'm still a bit surprised you can't insert it manually, or you might have different signatures for different things, e.g. with address and phone number... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
email signature
Hi, "Edit : Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings : Account Name" There's an option to automatically attach a signature from a text file, which works for new messages, but when I forward a message, it doesn't seem to work, and I wonder, is there a way to manually "insert signature" in the message composition window? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: updating to 2.40
Hi Edmund, Auto update is now working for me on Win7 x64. People can check "Edit : preferences : Advanced : Software Installation", and if it's set to weekly, they'll need to wait a bit longer. They can also check on the help menu, to make sure the update is being offered. Edmund Wong wrote: Hi Everyone, I apologize for the delay in the updates working. I just want to ask. Are the updates working? As in 2.35..2.39 can be updated to 2.40? I received an email stating that there's still an issue. Thanks Edmund -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.39 -> 2.40
Edmund Wong wrote: It should be fixed. Thanks Edmund, I can see it being offered from the help menu now - I'll wait to see if it auto updates... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.39 -> 2.40
Thanks Mark, The bugzilla link was helpful, looks like it's a known issue... mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: It seems there's a problem with the updates on the server <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1256567>. It might only affecting 64-bit Windows, since my 32-bit SeaMonkey 2.39 detected an update to 2.40 soon after it was released. Mark. Gerry Hickman wrote: Thanks David, But, I'm trying to understand why the auto-update isn't working. It's related to other users who are non-technical and who don't have admin rights. David E. Ross wrote: On 4/22/2016 10:08 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, My SeaMonkey 2.39 is set to auto-update, but it has not updated to 2.40 yet? Even "Help : Check for Updates" says there are no updates available... If you are indeed in the UK as your address indicates and if you are indeed using some version of Windows as your user agent header field indicates, then go go <https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.40/win32/en-GB/>, download SeaMonkey Setup 2.40.exe, and install it over your existing SeaMonkey. Yes, I know that manually installing software is considered primitive. On the other hand, I have three reasons to do it. *I maintain both my own PC and my wife's. I want to download only once and install twice. *I want to control when to do an installation. I do not want time-critical tasks (e.g., stock transactions) interrupted or even killed while an automatic installation occurs. *Before I retired, I did software test and configuration, which I still do for my own PC. I use an application that logs all changes to my PC when I install new software or update existing software. To prevent contamination of the log from extraneous Internet activity, I download the installer, disconnect from the Internet, start the logging, and then install. Afterwards, I run the final phase of the logger and finally reconnect to the Internet. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.39 -> 2.40
Thanks David, But, I'm trying to understand why the auto-update isn't working. It's related to other users who are non-technical and who don't have admin rights. David E. Ross wrote: On 4/22/2016 10:08 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, My SeaMonkey 2.39 is set to auto-update, but it has not updated to 2.40 yet? Even "Help : Check for Updates" says there are no updates available... If you are indeed in the UK as your address indicates and if you are indeed using some version of Windows as your user agent header field indicates, then go go <https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.40/win32/en-GB/>, download SeaMonkey Setup 2.40.exe, and install it over your existing SeaMonkey. Yes, I know that manually installing software is considered primitive. On the other hand, I have three reasons to do it. * I maintain both my own PC and my wife's. I want to download only once and install twice. * I want to control when to do an installation. I do not want time-critical tasks (e.g., stock transactions) interrupted or even killed while an automatic installation occurs. * Before I retired, I did software test and configuration, which I still do for my own PC. I use an application that logs all changes to my PC when I install new software or update existing software. To prevent contamination of the log from extraneous Internet activity, I download the installer, disconnect from the Internet, start the logging, and then install. Afterwards, I run the final phase of the logger and finally reconnect to the Internet. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.39 -> 2.40
Hi, My SeaMonkey 2.39 is set to auto-update, but it has not updated to 2.40 yet? Even "Help : Check for Updates" says there are no updates available... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Future of Thunderbird / Seamonkey mail module
David E. Ross wrote: There are other differences. I think the user interface for SeaMonkey is far superior to the UI for Firefox. Also, some user tailoring capabilities that have been removed from Firefox still exist in SeaMonkey. Although many people use web based email (cloud based email), I'd say SeaMonkey is more important than ever for those who want to continue to use POP3, especially if Mozilla drop Thuderbird. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Blocked images in email
Ed Mullen wrote: I receive a periodic HTML email newsletter from my investment advisor's firm. I used to see the graphics but no longer can, not even in old emails going back to 2013. I only see empty boxes. The person sending the newsletter uses mailchimp.com and the images reside on their server. The email itself comes from a different mail server. Oddly, in Thunderbird I see the images. I can't figure out why SM is blocking them and TB is not. Any help greatly appreciated. I'm sure you know this already, but SM and Microsoft Outlook block remote images by default. In SM you should see a bar at the top of the email explaining that remote content has been blocked - you can then use the options on that header bar to allow the images, and as others mentioned, you can also turn it off in the prefs. The other setting that might affect this is "view : message body as", where you can choose plain text, simple HTML, full HTML. It could also be that the remote content has been removed since the mail was sent? You could check this by getting the image URL and pasting it in to the browser URL bar and see if it works. If you don't have the "blocked" header bar above the email, and the images are still missing, it could be something else. In general, I recommend the SM defaults where you have to manually approve the remote images for each HTML email - much safer, or you could set it to only allow plain text (like me). -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto-Update "Something is trying to trick SeaMonkey..."
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: My recollection is 2.35, but either way, the point is you have to install one update manually to get past the certificate issue, and from then on auto updates will work again. I was able to visit over the holidays, and the new SM is now installed and working. It turns out that it could have been done without admin rights anyway; I must have originally installed it "per user" and that's why the updates had been working for over five years. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
