Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?
On 04/01/2021 08:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?
I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org. Messages were posted there as recently as
today.
Not viable. It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going
to be terminated at the same time.
How do you determine where a list is hosted?
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Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?
I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?
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Re: help with site
On 03/09/2021 03:37 PM, Hawker wrote: On 3/9/2021 4:26 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Hawker wrote: Any idea what is going on here? This site comes up with a challenge question, but the "button" to click below doesn't show up at all for me. In firefox I don't even get the challenge. Any idea what it is looking for that is an issue and why the button is missing? It used to work just fine. https://www.trustedparts.com/en/search/MMBF5457 Try changing your UA String from: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6 TO: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:85.0) Gecko/20200101 Firefox/85.0 Alas that didn't work. Is JavaScript, cookies etc enabled? Are any ad blockers disabled? YMMV ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost bar of buttons
On 02/26/2021 09:17 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 09:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 08:24 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included "Get new messages" HELP - what do I do? SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux I get it back if running in Safe Mode. I have never had any addons installed. Did you accidentally hide the mail toolbar? If so, you would see a right arrow and a dotted pattern where the toolbar should be... No. That was first thing I checked. I've done that often enough ;/ Tried View > Show Hide? No I hadn't. Click on it. All boxes were checked. Clicked one. Don't know which but I lost the one with "View". Went to Compose window the back to read message window. All bars are back at the moment. Exited and re-entered SeaMonkey. All bars present. Thank you Walt and Bill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost bar of buttons
On 02/26/2021 09:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 08:24 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included "Get new messages" HELP - what do I do? SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux I get it back if running in Safe Mode. I have never had any addons installed. Did you accidentally hide the mail toolbar? If so, you would see a right arrow and a dotted pattern where the toolbar should be... No. That was first thing I checked. I've done that often enough ;/ Tried View > Show Hide? No I hadn't. Click on it. All boxes were checked. Clicked one. Don't know which but I lost the one with "View". Went to Compose window the back to read message window. All bars are back at the moment. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost bar of buttons
On 02/26/2021 08:24 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included "Get new messages" HELP - what do I do? SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux I get it back if running in Safe Mode. I have never had any addons installed. Did you accidentally hide the mail toolbar? If so, you would see a right arrow and a dotted pattern where the toolbar should be... No. That was first thing I checked. I've done that often enough ;/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost bar of buttons
On 02/26/2021 05:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included "Get new messages" HELP - what do I do? SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux I get it back if running in Safe Mode. I have never had any addons installed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost bar of buttons
While moving cursor with mouse I accidentally lost the row of buttons which included "Get new messages" HELP - what do I do? SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Examining complete mail headers - was [Re: SPAM from "... campaign office of Representative Ocasio-Cortez! ..."]
On 01/09/2021 07:17 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
On 09/01/2021 12:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
...> [snip]
What tool can I use to examine full mail headers of a specific message?
I'm using {User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4} on Debian Stretch.
Two ways right in the message window:
View>Headers>All
View>Message Source
/df
Thank you.
I should have thought of Ctrl-U as I regularly use it when having web
page issues.
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Examining complete mail headers - was [Re: SPAM from "... campaign office of Representative Ocasio-Cortez! ..."]
On 01/08/2021 02:15 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
[snip]
Whilst I personally believe that the post above, is not appropriate for
a software support mailing list, have you tried examining the full
headers of the malicious email messages?
What tool can I use to examine full mail headers of a specific message?
I'm using {User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4} on Debian Stretch.
TIA
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Re: SPAM from "... campaign office of Representative Ocasio-Cortez! ..."
WaltS48 wrote: > No "Unsubcribe" in the email? ..an excellent way to have your address harvested so they know it's real and will send you much MORE in the future. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
List of "found messages" needed
The "Search Messages" tool is powerful and convenient. It can *display* (on screen) attributes of those messages. It apparently *CAN NOT* save a text file of those displayed attributes. For my current project, I need a two column list of "Subject" and "Date" of the found messages. Long-term I can see creating a CSV formatted file. Does a tool exist? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up pop email account
On 11/16/2020 03:07 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 11/16/20 9:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/16/2020 07:13 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 11/16/20 5:49 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Due to operator error I've trashed all my profiles. I need to create from scratch the email portion of my profile. I find the information is scattered in the internal help system. Is there a web page that gives *ALL* the details for setting up pop? TIA Have you tried pressing the F1 function key, or go to the Menu bar > Help > Help Contents > Using Mail & Newsgroups > Using the Mail Account Setup Wizard? I had searched for "password" rather than "Using the Mail Account Setup Wizard" as I thought my immediate problem was password related. In meantime I discovered that one of my presumed junk machines seem to lack only my current password (my ISP is only a couple of miles away). I would still like to know if the information is available on a web page. The internal help contents presumes reader is going to ask particular question in a specific order. A web page would allow me to access tabs in *MY* order rather than the author's order. Thanks. Try <http://kb.mozillazine.org/Category:Mozilla_Suite> You could use a search engine and do a search. Mozillazine does not look promising and hadn't tried search engine as couldn't come up with good search terms. The problem is now moot as creating a new profile from scratch "just worked". *EVEN THOUGH* all entries appear the same as existing profile which gets error message from ISP: "Sending username did not succeed." "Mailserver @@.com responded: Invalid format for plain response." Now I just have to figure out how to move currently saved emails and their sub-folder structure to the new profile. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up pop email account
On 11/16/2020 07:13 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 11/16/20 5:49 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Due to operator error I've trashed all my profiles. I need to create from scratch the email portion of my profile. I find the information is scattered in the internal help system. Is there a web page that gives *ALL* the details for setting up pop? TIA Have you tried pressing the F1 function key, or go to the Menu bar > Help > Help Contents > Using Mail & Newsgroups > Using the Mail Account Setup Wizard? I had searched for "password" rather than "Using the Mail Account Setup Wizard" as I thought my immediate problem was password related. In meantime I discovered that one of my presumed junk machines seem to lack only my current password (my ISP is only a couple of miles away). I would still like to know if the information is available on a web page. The internal help contents presumes reader is going to ask particular question in a specific order. A web page would allow me to access tabs in *MY* order rather than the author's order. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Setting up pop email account
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Re: Dealing with UserAgent strings for first time
On 11/08/2020 09:36 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
On 08/11/2020 13:54, Richard Owlett wrote:
... I'm investigating speech recognition software [particularly
Mozilla's DeepSpeech {https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech}]
I wish to access two related sites accepting Firefox.
https://commonvoice.mozilla.org/
Seems to load OK with SM 2.53.4/Linux x86. Presumably whatever is needed
has been incorporated in the newer SM version, as the mozilla sites
seem, correctly, to use feature detection (as below) rather than the UA
string.
and
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#machinelearning:mozilla.org
...
Logs to the console that it needs the ECMAScript 6 version of Array,
puts up a page saying "unsupported: proceed at own risk", but doesn't
load. So I don't expect that UA spoofing would make any difference (and
2.49.4 might be lacking other features).
This page
<https://www.hackerearth.com/practice/notes/hemanth12/es6-array-methods/> lists
the ES6 changes to Array, which look as if they would be easy to
implement as a JS polyfill that can be loaded in UserJS for the site,
and probably have been, and should have been included by the site devs.
/df
Thank you.
I'm in process of installing 64 bit version of Debian on another laptop.
I'm currently using 32 bit Debian 9 on this machine (typo in original
post indicated I was already on Debian 10).
I will install SM 2.53.4 on that machine.
I've read your Nov 9 post. I'll also also set up the machine to dual
boot to the beta of SM 2.53.5 (and later)to see if the needed JavaScript
mods have been made.
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Dealing with UserAgent strings for first time
I date from the days of Netscape Navigator and am currently using
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Debian 10. I've never had need of a site that
demanded a specific browser.
I'm investigating speech recognition software [particularly Mozilla's
DeepSpeech {https://github.com/mozilla/DeepSpeech}]
I wish to access two related sites accepting Firefox.
https://commonvoice.mozilla.org/
and
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#machinelearning:mozilla.org
Neither works at all with my SeaMonkey install but do apparently work
with the ESR version of Firefox 60 in the Debian repository.
1. What should I be reading on UserAgent strings in order to ask
intelligent questions.
2. Are those sites readable by SeaMonkey with suitable UA string?
[I wish to avoid Firefox as I find its user interface annoying without
offering anything of interest that is not part of SeaMonkey.]
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Re: book marks
On 11/02/2020 07:00 AM, jensd6...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I cant anymore add or delete book marks (favorites). Also there are no any records in the chronic. I tried everything (new installation and so on), but no change. I need help so solve it. Thank you in advance. Jens What version of SeaMonkey? What OS? Any recent changes to the system? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Organizing Mail/Newsgroup tags
Running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 on Linux I have ~40-50 tags. Is there any way to save them to a text file to aid in organizing the names? Where are they stored? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No vertical scroll bar ...
On 09/02/2020 07:34 AM, Ray_Net wrote: No vertical scroll bar ... https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/ Works ok with Google Chrome. Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-) https://validator.w3.org/ reports > 20 warnings and > 100 errors. But SeaMonkey 2.49.4 shows vertical scroll bare properly.> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/28/2020 01:43 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 8:29 PM: [ *SNIP* ] Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. Clarification: For the new profile doing Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks displays a two pane view of "Bookmarks Manager". HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. >> Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. "the restore was successful" in that you now have two panes?? ;-) I closed SeaMonkey. Opened it using old profile. Did a Tools->Backup to a clean directory and closed SeaMonkey. I opened SeaMonkey using the new profile. I did a Tools->Restore using the file just created. I received a vague error message but but a spot check of bookmark contents showed no errors. The Bookmark Manager displayed two panes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/27/2020 01:41 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 27/08/2020 3:48 AM: [ *SNIP* ] Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. As shown by my sig file, I dual-boot this laptop, so at different times I have used 32 bit SeaMonkey (Win7 WOW64) (like now) and 64 bit SeaMonkey (Linux x64) and I have ALWAYS seen the two pane version of Bookmark Manager, so, I'm guessing, it's something you have done/haven't done! Just what did I do? Just created a new profile as test case. It behaves as you have described. HOWEVER; If in my active profile's Bookmark Manager I do Tools->Backup, my test profile complains of an unspecified error when doing a Tools->Restore. Preliminary spot check implies the restore was successful. Now for some careful backups and moves of critical information from existing profile to the new profile. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
RESOLUTION -- Re: BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/26/2020 01:48 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 25/08/2020 9:24 PM: On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. Richard, on that screen, do you see two sections in the Left Hand section there are listed all the folders (Tags, All Bookmarks, Bookmarks Toolbar, Bookmarks Menu, etc., etc.) and then, if you select one of those folders, in the right hand pane are listed the Bookmarks that you have in that folders?? If you don't see two such panes, is the the right hand side of the screen dragable (look for a knurled 'grippie' thing) so that you might expose the second pane?? Temporarily I have a 64 bit version of SeaMonkey running on a test machine. I see the two pane version of Bookmark Manager. IT is evidently a difference between 32 and 64 bit versions of SeaMonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Possible partial workaround -- [ Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/23/2020 06:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA Bill's description of a dual pane view of "Bookmark Manager" prompted some experimentation. Choosing Bookmarks->File Bookmark then under "Folder:" and then clicking "Choose" displays a tree-view of folder titles. Performing Cntrl-A Cntrl-C followed by pasting into a text editor yields a not-quite un-formatted list of folder titles. I say "not-quite un-formatted list" because there is a blank line where there would have been one or more bookmarks. I'll experiment to see if I can create a tree view of the folder structure. Later. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
BOOKMARK MANAGER - multiple panes? -- was [Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?]
On 08/24/2020 03:05 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA [snip] I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ [snip] Something has changed recently with Bookmark Manager (besides now being called 'Library'). Before, the left pane showed folder title for top-level folders, plus subfolder titles if you clicked the '>' icon, plus unsorted bookmarks at the bottom. Now the unsorted bookmarks only appear in the right pane. But either way, with two panes, you can expose as much of your subfolder structure as there is space on your monitor in either the left or right pane. This might not help much on a laptop screen, but it's really great on a large monitor, and even better with multiple monitors![snip] I do NOT see two panes in "Bookmark Manager". I am running SeaMonkey 2.49.4 [1] on the i386 flavor of Debian 9.8 [2] Using the menu choice Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks I see a single pane titled "Bookmark Manager" with no apparent way to display a second pane. [1] User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 [2] I'm using i386 Debian on this machine due to historical reasons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
On 08/23/2020 04:22 PM, EE wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA You can use cut & paste. Ctrl-X is cut and Ctrl-v is paste. *ROFL* ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks -- An alternative viewer/editor?
On 08/23/2020 02:30 PM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: "Bookmark Manager" *can* move groups of bookmarks to different place in hierarchy. *HOWEVER* I have thousands of bookmarks and it is near impossible to view structure as a whole. [places.sqlite is 10.5 MB] Exporting as HTML loses relationship between groups of bookmarks. Short of learning to program sqlite, suggestions? TIA I'm up to 12,000 bookmarks these days, and have never had a problem moving large folders of bookmarks around using Bookmark Manager. I have maybe 15 first-level folders, with lots of subfolders within each. With that kind of organization, I can easily see the big-picture folder structure, and still have plenty of room on the screen to drill down within a couple of first-level folders at the same time while reorganizing the subfolders and individual bookmarks. Ohhh you WELL organized soul. That is my goal. What I have is an ad hoc collection of POORLY organized bookmarks. Some in logically nested collections. Many just scattered loose. Some may date back to Netscape days. As you observed, once there is a logically organized set of folders there is no problem moving folders or sub-folders to a new location in the tree. That's what prompted my post ;/ As an interim solution, is there a way of printing/displaying only folder titles while displaying their logical tree structure? Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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*THANK YOU* {w/followup ;} -- Re: Selecting/displaying desired messages conveniently - Feasible feature request?
On 08/20/2020 10:35 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: SeaMonkey can already perform the required tasks. But it clashes with desired workflow. I make extensive use of custom tags . The two most used tags are for: 1. color coding the subject line of messages I wrote. 2. a general tag for things I find to be of long-term interest. Under "View:" my standard is to display all subject lines: associated with the second tag above or marked as unread FIRST problem. When a specific view is selected, SeaMonkey defaults to expanding the view in the "Thread" pane. As the purpose of the second tag is _long-term_ interest I have to scroll a long way to see today's posts. Is there any way to collapse *ALL* threads? [Collapsing individually is inconvenient.] View > Threads > Collapse All Threads, or backslash (\) on the keyboard. Using "backslash (\) on the keyboard" will be as close to perfect a solution as humanly possible. I'll just have to retrain myself ;/ SECOND problem. When searching a directory for key words in subject line [with perhaps a date boundary], I'll get a dozen or more hits that have to tagged individually. I would like to tag or mark as un-read all the hits the search has found. Ctrl+A selects all messages, Understood. or you can hold Ctrl to select multiple specific messages I use that routinely in anothewr context. or Shift to select a range of messages. I do not understand that phrase. *HOWEVER*, the two preceding options seem to cover ALL my needs. Then the shortcuts to toggle read/unread (M) or tags (1, 2, 3, etc.) affect all selected messages. I think I understand using "M" to toggle read/unread. This works from within the thread pane (e.g. if filtered using the search bar), in which case the menus can also be used, and also from the advanced search dialog, although the menus aren't available there so you need to know the relevant keyboard shortcuts. You can use the menus from the main window to work out what the shortcuts are, e.g. Message > Tag to see which number corresponds to which tag. I'm not sure whether you get shortcuts for tags beyond the first 9, so you might need to order them so that your frequently used tags come within the first 9 to ensure there are shortcuts for them. That paragraph [PLUS toggling tags] I do *NOT* GROK. What should I have read that I do not recall ever having seen ;/ I've been acound since Communicator days The un_satisfactory option SeaMonkey provides of creating a "saved search" for later display is inconvenient. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Selecting/displaying desired messages conveniently - Feasible feature request?
SeaMonkey can already perform the required tasks. But it clashes with desired workflow. I make extensive use of custom tags . The two most used tags are for: 1. color coding the subject line of messages I wrote. 2. a general tag for things I find to be of long-term interest. Under "View:" my standard is to display all subject lines: associated with the second tag above or marked as unread FIRST problem. When a specific view is selected, SeaMonkey defaults to expanding the view in the "Thread" pane. As the purpose of the second tag is _long-term_ interest I have to scroll a long way to see today's posts. Is there any way to collapse *ALL* threads? [Collapsing individually is inconvenient.] SECOND problem. When searching a directory for key words in subject line [with perhaps a date boundary], I'll get a dozen or more hits that have to tagged individually. I would like to tag or mark as un-read all the hits the search has found. The un_satisfactory option SeaMonkey provides of creating a "saved search" for later display is inconvenient. Comments? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Eyeball icon on _SOME_ USENET threads that I've replied to.
On 08/15/2020 09:21 AM, Edward wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I am using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 Some, *NOT ALL*, USENET threads that I've contributed to have an "eyeball icon" in the leftmost column of pane containing subject titles. WHY? TIA I found a bug report from 19 years ago on unignored threads, including duplicate reports which specifically mentioned the eyeball icon, with the original bug report closed as resolved-fixed. In all the years I've used Netscape, Mozilla Suite and now SeaMonkey, I've never seen this eyeball icon... Maybe it's an indicator that the thread is being 'watched'? I've had the symptom come and go without apparent cause. If the "eyeball" appears I can turn it off with Message->Watch Thread ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
WHY?????????? -- Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser
On 08/14/2020 07:27 PM, Lance Courtland wrote: It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey ... I use SeaMonkey 2.49 under Debian with *NO* problems _whatsoever_. I started with Netscape Communicator under whatever flavor of Widoze was current back in the day. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Eyeball icon on _SOME_ USENET threads that I've replied to.
I am using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 Some, *NOT ALL*, USENET threads that I've contributed to have an "eyeball icon" in the leftmost column of pane containing subject titles. WHY? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[RESOLVED] -- was {Re: Reset email passwords}
On 07/07/2020 08:15 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password" campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end. There was then a server problem that denied access even before asking for password. A service ticket was opened. This morning everything works. Thanks for all the feedback. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/08/2020 07:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 7/8/20 4:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 07/07/2020 03:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password
Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
You change it by selecting the account under the Domain in the
Password Manager.
Click the "Remove" button.
Close and restart SeaMonkey.
Attempt to get email for that account.
I tested this with my Verizon email account and it only asked for my
password because the Username is still in the account settings.
HTH
Didn't work.
Never got a chance to enter password. Received error message:> Sending
of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
Have you tried setting up the account in a test profile?
The Username is in the format usern...@emailprovider.com or .net or
whatever it is supposed to be?
I'll do that later today.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/08/2020 02:54 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 07/07/2020 03:22 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Well, you can always delete the entry in the password manager. It will then ask you for a password (along with your email user-name). Since the exact form of the user-name varies between email providers, make sure you remember what it is supposed to look like. In my case, the user-name could be hyperspace.flyover or hyperspace.flyo...@vogon.gov. Didn't work. Never got a chance to enter password. Received error message: Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded: Invalid format for plain response. It could be that the port, connection security or authentication method need to be updated in SeaMonkey's account settings (Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > [Account Name] > Server Settings). Although you may not have changed anything in SeaMonkey, mail providers sometimes change what they require. It might not be a recently announced change either, if they brought in new settings some time ago, but still supported the old method until recently. Most providers give the details needed somewhere on their support pages. Also, as others have mentioned, check that the username is definitely in the right format - depending on the provider, sometimes it needs to be the whole email address, sometimes only the part before the "@" (I even once had an account which needed the whole address but with "@" replaced with "#"!) Again, providers sometimes change what they expect, so worth checking even if it's previously been working. I was thinking along those lines. I'm setting up another physical machine for doing a test install of SeaMonkey after asking my provider for their preferences. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 03:22 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
On 07/07/2020 12:45 PM, meagain wrote:
Original Message
On 07/07/2020 09:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
On 07/07/2020 08:40 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your
Password" campaign. I've successfully changed the password on
his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords >
Password Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
I think the way to go is to try and retrieve your emails using
the old password.
It will fail, and ask you for the new password.
I think it should then ask you if you want to replace the old
with the new (in Seamonkey).
You can't do it directly in the Password Manager.
That is what I expected to happen.
It *DID NOT*
When I select the account name and then click "Get Msgs" the
response is:
Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
Since the last time I used the account [less than 1 hour earlier
today], *nothing* has changed on my end.
My connection sees the other end as a Pop Server using Port 110.
and the password being sent insecurely.
110? Did your Mail provider tell you that the value had changed?
Mine are all Connection Security = SSL/TLS which maps to Port 995.
I've been on Port 110 for years (decades even ;)
I had updated password on one account and at next login got the
reported error message.
Immediately before telephoning my provider, I had checked email on a
secondary account with no problem. While speaking to the tech about
the 1st account, I had her reset the password on the secondary
account. After I hung up, the secondary account gives the identical
error message.
There must be a method to change SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I *DID DO* it LAST year. Just don't remember how.
Pop3 on port 110 is the older of the two popular protocols used to
retrieve eMail from remote mail servers. (The newer protocol, imap,
the Internet message access protocol, uses port 143.)
Many ISP are changing to imap.
When I contacted them by phone I mentioned that I was served by their
POP server. They are a local company and I've been a customer for
three decades since they were a storefront in a strip mall.
In any case I need to know how to locally change the password it sends
to the server.
Well, you can always delete the entry in the password manager. It will
then ask you for a password (along with your email user-name). Since
the exact form of the user-name varies between email providers, make
sure you remember what it is supposed to look like.
In my case, the user-name could be hyperspace.flyover or
hyperspace.flyo...@vogon.gov.
Didn't work.
Never got a chance to enter password. Received error message:
Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 03:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
You change it by selecting the account under the Domain in the Password
Manager.
Click the "Remove" button.
Close and restart SeaMonkey.
Attempt to get email for that account.
I tested this with my Verizon email account and it only asked for my
password because the Username is still in the account settings.
HTH
Didn't work.
Never got a chance to enter password. Received error message:> Sending
of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 12:45 PM, meagain wrote:
Original Message
On 07/07/2020 09:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
On 07/07/2020 08:40 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password
Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
I think the way to go is to try and retrieve your emails using the
old password.
It will fail, and ask you for the new password.
I think it should then ask you if you want to replace the old with
the new (in Seamonkey).
You can't do it directly in the Password Manager.
That is what I expected to happen.
It *DID NOT*
When I select the account name and then click "Get Msgs" the
response is:
Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
Since the last time I used the account [less than 1 hour earlier
today], *nothing* has changed on my end.
My connection sees the other end as a Pop Server using Port 110.
and the password being sent insecurely.
110? Did your Mail provider tell you that the value had changed?
Mine are all Connection Security = SSL/TLS which maps to Port 995.
I've been on Port 110 for years (decades even ;)
I had updated password on one account and at next login got the
reported error message.
Immediately before telephoning my provider, I had checked email on a
secondary account with no problem. While speaking to the tech about
the 1st account, I had her reset the password on the secondary
account. After I hung up, the secondary account gives the identical
error message.
There must be a method to change SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I *DID DO* it LAST year. Just don't remember how.
Pop3 on port 110 is the older of the two popular protocols used to
retrieve eMail from remote mail servers. (The newer protocol, imap, the
Internet message access protocol, uses port 143.)
Many ISP are changing to imap.
When I contacted them by phone I mentioned that I was served by their
POP server. They are a local company and I've been a customer for three
decades since they were a storefront in a strip mall.
In any case I need to know how to locally change the password it sends
to the server.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 11:19 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
Classic Password Editor
<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/classic-password-editor/>
I see nothing on that page mentioning changing *EMAIL* passwords.
I'm connected to a Pop Server, *NOT* a web page.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 09:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
On 07/07/2020 08:40 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password
Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
I think the way to go is to try and retrieve your emails using the
old password.
It will fail, and ask you for the new password.
I think it should then ask you if you want to replace the old with
the new (in Seamonkey).
You can't do it directly in the Password Manager.
That is what I expected to happen.
It *DID NOT*
When I select the account name and then click "Get Msgs" the response is:
Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
Since the last time I used the account [less than 1 hour earlier
today], *nothing* has changed on my end.
My connection sees the other end as a Pop Server using Port 110.
and the password being sent insecurely.
110? Did your Mail provider tell you that the value had changed?
Mine are all Connection Security = SSL/TLS which maps to Port 995.
I've been on Port 110 for years (decades even ;)
I had updated password on one account and at next login got the reported
error message.
Immediately before telephoning my provider, I had checked email on a
secondary account with no problem. While speaking to the tech about the
1st account, I had her reset the password on the secondary account.
After I hung up, the secondary account gives the identical error message.
There must be a method to change SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I *DID DO* it LAST year. Just don't remember how.
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Re: Reset email passwords
On 07/07/2020 08:40 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
I think the way to go is to try and retrieve your emails using the old
password.
It will fail, and ask you for the new password.
I think it should then ask you if you want to replace the old with the
new (in Seamonkey).
You can't do it directly in the Password Manager.
That is what I expected to happen.
It *DID NOT*
When I select the account name and then click "Get Msgs" the response is:
Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.
Since the last time I used the account [less than 1 hour earlier today],
*nothing* has changed on my end.
My connection sees the other end as a Pop Server using Port 110.
and the password being sent insecurely.
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Reset email passwords
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4
Build identifier: 20180711182954
My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password"
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.
I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password Manager
and display the existing password.
How do I change it? ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA
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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?
On 06/09/2020 07:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/8/20 7:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM: I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape. I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists. The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years. My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter Name" and "action performed". Comments or suggestions? TIA Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey?? 1 Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters) 2. Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a particular group on that Account). 3. Give the Filter a name. 4. select what you want that filter to do. But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, maybe these filters don't work on Mail Lists!! ROFL &/or GROAN I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one at a time and they are listed in priority order. I want to put all that information in a single text file. Those are already in a file called msgFilterRules.dat that can be opened in a text editor. Each account in the profile will have that file. If you have more than one msgFilterRules.dat file per account. You could probably open one at a time and copy the information into a new text file. I'm not sure how that works. All my filters are created from the account level so I can see them all in order in SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. *THANK YOU!* I have one file with 38 rules. The file is arranged such that it should be relatively to create an editor macro to convert to CSV format for convenient viewing and manipulation. Than you again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?
On 06/09/2020 04:07 AM, Daniel wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote on 8/06/2020 9:14 PM:
On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM:
I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape.
I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists.
The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years.
My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated
filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter
Name" and "action performed".
Comments or suggestions?
TIA
Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey??
1 Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters)
2. Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a
particular group on that Account).
3. Give the Filter a name.
4. select what you want that filter to do.
But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct
from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers,
maybe these filters don't work on Mail Lists!!
ROFL &/or GROAN
I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one
at a time and they are listed in priority order.
I want to put all that information in a single text file.
Ah!! O.K., so you, basically, want to export your filters into a text
file, maybe, so you can see what's what!!
EXACTLY!
{Chair of the university's freshman English program declared my
composition skills to be literally hopeless in 1961 ;}
Sorry, beyond my very limited expertise!! ;-P
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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?
On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM: I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape. I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists. The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years. My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter Name" and "action performed". Comments or suggestions? TIA Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey?? 1 Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters) 2. Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a particular group on that Account). 3. Give the Filter a name. 4. select what you want that filter to do. But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, maybe these filters don't work on Mail Lists!! ROFL &/or GROAN I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one at a time and they are listed in priority order. I want to put all that information in a single text file. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?
I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape. I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists. The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years. My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter Name" and "action performed". Comments or suggestions? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SOLUTION - was [ Read only access to mbox formatted file ]
On 05/20/2020 04:20 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 19/05/2020 10:52 PM: I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 under Debian Although I've never used any Apple product, an out of state friend is asking for help with a new iPad. I suspect pointing him to a suitable USENET is appropriate. I've downloaded and extracted an archive of comp.mobile.ipad . How do I access it with SeaMonkey to take advantage of mail search and threading threading tools. I date back to Netscape days but don't think I've ever done this. Advice please. TIA Richard, I'm not exactly sure why you have downloaded the archive but anyway [SNIP] People have wondering about the way I "think" for >70 years. Your follow-up post describing offline access to USENET was close enough to rattle my cage appropriately. First good night's sleep in days followed by cup of caffeinated coffee also helped ;} More seriously, the key to all was in my subject line - though I hadn't recognized it. A better statement of my problem would have been: Given a standards compliant mbox file, how can it be accessed with SeaMonkey? ANSWER: Copy it [w/o file extension] to the preferred Mail sub-directory. [e.g. /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/Mail/rowlett ] SeaMonkey does the rest. Thank you for your time. It helped me solve my own problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Read only access to mbox formatted file
I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4 under Debian Although I've never used any Apple product, an out of state friend is asking for help with a new iPad. I suspect pointing him to a suitable USENET is appropriate. I've downloaded and extracted an archive of comp.mobile.ipad . How do I access it with SeaMonkey to take advantage of mail search and threading threading tools. I date back to Netscape days but don't think I've ever done this. Advice please. TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Large memory usage by email ... or is SM in general?
EE wrote: > flyguy wrote: >> Windows 10, SM 2.49.4 >> >> Task Manager showed SM using 32% memory with email and one browser >> window open. The browser had only one tab with the Washington Post >> front page. Closing the browser reduced memory use to 24%; after >> closing the email then reopening it, it used only 7%. I've noticed this >> high memory usage before. Is there a way to avoid it, or to reduce it >> without closing the program? I don't mind closing/reopening the email, >> but often I have several windows and tabs open, so it's a nuisance to >> close the browser, too. > > If you read your email as plain text, it should not take as much room. Choosing to read only the plain text will not change the size of the email or the memory usage of the window. If the email contains an "HTML half" it still loads. Do a Crtl-U and see it all. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to find out where my bookmark is located in SM's Library?
On 05/11/2020 04:28 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 11/05/2020 5:39 PM: On 05/10/2020 10:52 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2020-05-10 11:35 p.m., Ant wrote: Like what folder(s) it is in? I had to export my Library to bookmarks.html to see where my bookmark is under. I was hoping to avoid using that method. Hi Ant, A great person asked this same question not too long ago. You can view the thread and it's answers here: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/tRDQkWgjBNU/discussion If there's any part of the answer you need help with, just let us know. What is that post's subject line? I go to that URL and get nothing - even after enabling JavaScript and cookies. Richard, look for "How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?" by Ant, back on 21st Sept, 2019 ... o0r there abouts (depends on the Time Zones, I think). Thank you. After *drinking* my first cup of coffee, I woke up enough to search Subject for "bookmark" <*GRIN*> ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there a way to find out where my bookmark is located in SM's Library?
On 05/10/2020 10:52 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2020-05-10 11:35 p.m., Ant wrote: Like what folder(s) it is in? I had to export my Library to bookmarks.html to see where my bookmark is under. I was hoping to avoid using that method. Hi Ant, A great person asked this same question not too long ago. You can view the thread and it's answers here: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/tRDQkWgjBNU/discussion If there's any part of the answer you need help with, just let us know. What is that post's subject line? I go to that URL and get nothing - even after enabling JavaScript and cookies. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: editing questions
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: > - Composer. This is an html editor, pretty out of date and only > show-stopper bugs are being fixed. It does *not* support css. I could be wrong, but I don't think Composer has been updated for anything in probably a decade. After looking at Jan's site, I'd say he is stuck with editing it with Freeway Pro. Or ... a plain text editor. :-/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happens next?
On 02/22/2020 06:23 PM, MRoss-GMX wrote: [SNIP] Once updated for the 64bit laptop and 2.49.5, youtube still complained until I added Firefox/52.0 compatibility. So youtube still works under the older Firefox/52.0 ; I will keep Firefox/62.0 in mind for future need though. Thanks. Still I don't like needing that, I would prefer Seamonkey to be more respected and accepted. If only it could be loaded as an option in many repositories/kiosks associated with Linux distributions, like Firefox and other browsers are. Even if an older version, a user could find it, install it, update it after installing the distro. It was in the Debian repositories. IIRC there was some conflict official Mozilla policy and Debian policy/procedures. Put it in users face anyway, somehow. The Play Apps Store routine works. I run the x86 flavor of Debian. The installation from [https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.49.5.tar.bz2] was *TRIVIAL*! Download, unzip, point to executable, ENJOY. To do all that is work. I know the developers are shorthanded, overloaded, and I am not in any situation to help that way. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
From "BrowsER HISTORY" to "BrowsING BOOKMARKS"
*carpe lector* Weird capitalization of subject line *IS* significant. I recently asked questions in support of a personal project on 3 fora: a OS specific forum a programing language forum a hardware forum. I, *naively*, thought my phraseology would adequately define my "universe of discourse" ;/ ROFL - did not work out that way. On all fora I got replies including URLs relevant to all 3 "universes". On initial visit, *VERY FEW* few rated a bookmark. *notice* the cop-out above? rofl I visited a plethora of URLs. Has anyone created a tool which would suggest links to be bookmarked? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is the Mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup still active?
On 02/16/2020 05:56 AM, Cheryl Springtime wrote: Hello, I'm trying to subscribe but to no avail so thought I should ask if it's still active? Does anyone know? Thanks, Cheryl Your post is one of approximately 10/day HTH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bookmarks in Color?
Ray_Net wrote: > Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33: >> Ray_Net wrote: >>> Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13: Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35: > I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to > appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this? Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ... >>> It's a one-way action colors will not be present if you import >>> your modified html file. >>> >>> AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color >>> attribute ? >> >> When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra >> info about them to be in red. > > Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify > the foreground color ? Only if it is just to be printed. You won't be able to re-import the file into the browser as Word will add so much word-processing code to the file it will be rendered useless for the browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Strange SeaMonkey mail/newsgroup symptom - failure to connect
I'm running:
Debian 9.8 with MATE desktop
SeaMonkey 2.49.4, Build identifier: 20180711182954
I connect via T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot
{WiFi disabled, i.e. I treat it as USB connected modem }
Starting from cold boot, I occasionally (but frequent enough to prompt
question) have to connect to a website {arbitrary valid URL} before I
can connect to my e-mail provider.
I believe the same is true regarding my two newsgroup providers:
news.mozilla.org
news.supernews.com
{IOW I rarely attempt to connect to newsgroup before checking mail}
Do I have a "real" problem?
or is "Murphy" just laughing at me?
TIA
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Re: Problem following links if JavaScript enabled
On 01/12/2020 11:11 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: On 12/01/20 12:38, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running SeaMonkey version 2.49.4 [Build identifier: 20180711182954] under Debian 9.8 [Stretch] I routinely surf with JavaScript disabled without problems. I have problems following *ANY* link from https://manpages.debian.org/ *IF AND ONLY IF* JavaScript is enabled. The symptoms are: 1. Destination link is promptly displayed in URL bar. 2. The page never loads/displays. Confirmed in SM 2.49.5 LXLE based on Lubuntu 16.04/32-bit for 'Open in New Tab', except that with the dev tools pane displayed the new tab may eventually display. But the site doesn't lose any functionality without JS as far as I can see -- it's just stuff like lazy-loading fonts. Is this a: 1. site problem? 2. SeaMonkey failure? 3. an unidentified local problem? Difficult to tell. I have a fair few extensions loaded. You could test SM with a new profile, and if that fails try FF 52 ESR, and if that fails, other versions and browsers. I have no extensions loaded. I'll try later with a default profile. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem following links if JavaScript enabled
On 01/12/2020 08:38 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running SeaMonkey version 2.49.4 [Build identifier: 20180711182954] under Debian 9.8 [Stretch] I routinely surf with JavaScript disabled without problems. I have problems following *ANY* link from https://manpages.debian.org/ *IF AND ONLY IF* JavaScript is enabled. The symptoms are: 1. Destination link is promptly displayed in URL bar. 2. The page never loads/displays. I see the same, but only if the link is opened in a new tab. I see the same. I had been investigating a vendor provided script and had been opening a series of man pages in multiple tabs. Just clicking the link (to open in the same tab) or opening in a new window works. Opening in a new tab (either via context menu, Ctrl+click or middle-click) behaves as you describe. Attempting to reload the page doesn't help, but clicking in the address bar and pressing "Enter" does load the page. That was part of what prompted me to post. Having opened in a new tab, attempting to view the page source has "Source of: wyciwyg://14/https://manpages.debian.org/...; in the title bar - truncation is mine, but the "wyciwyg://14/" looks odd. I see similar. In a test just now, instead of '14' I see '48' or '49' depending on link clicked. I'll investigate further. Viewing source of a successfully loaded page shows "Source of: https://manpages.debian.org/...; as would be expected. Is this a: 1. site problem? 2. SeaMonkey failure? 3. an unidentified local problem? Suggestions? Not sure. The presence of "wyciwyg" in the page source when it's failing to load looks like it could be some interaction between caching and something JavaScript is doing on those pages. I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.5 on Linux Mint. Thank you ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem following links if JavaScript enabled
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Re: Support The Fork?
Larry S. wrote: > What the heck is Support The Fork? Anyone? Someone who is posting to this group is sending a copy of their posts to the support address of "thefork.com", and that site sends an automated reply to the newsgroup. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: access denied
On 11/29/2019 10:46 AM, Frog wrote: Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this server. Works for me Running Debian 9.8 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 No addons/extensions/whatever JavaScript and cookies disabled HTH ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Identifying online privacy risks
Caveat Lector: I know the subject line is poor. Best I could do Environment: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) ... SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Debian 9.8 When going to a URL, at the bottom of the screen there may be URLs of multiple sites. It goes by too fast to absorb. Does SeaMonkey log these URLs? Is there any way to know what information is exchanged? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing Web Pages
Thomas Pamin wrote: > Richard Alan wrote: >> Tom Pamin wrote: >> >>> More and more when printing web pages the printing is cutoff on the >>> right side. This occurs even when there is a print button on the page. >>> Is there a way to stop this from happening? >> >> What does it look like in Print Preview? >> >> Is your percentage of size set to greater than 100%? >> >> What happens if you set the current size to, say, 90%? >> > My percentage was 100. I reset to 90 and it looks better. Try 85%? My experience when this situation occurs is because the web author (and his "tools") hard-codes font sizes and does not respect the visitors' own chosen sizes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Printing Web Pages
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Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Rob Steinmetz wrote: >> I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that >> domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... > > Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks
On 10/09/2019 10:15 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: SQLiteStudio https://sqlitestudio.pl/index.rvt I don't trust that site. It requires both cookies and JavaScript to be enabled and then tries to log me into Facebook without asking. I looked for it in the Debian repository - it's not there. However I discovered something called sqlitebrowser which is described as a "GUI editor for SQLite databases". I'll investigate to see if it might be a partial solution. be careful. Only use it when SeaMonkey is closed Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there a SQLite3 application which can: 1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files 2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew] 3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the cleaned up data? ... Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be? If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON using Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore the modified file? Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON. /df ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks
On 10/09/2019 10:03 AM, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: On 09/10/19 15:36, Richard Owlett wrote: Is there a SQLite3 application which can: 1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files 2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew] 3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the cleaned up data? ... Isn't that what the Bookmarks Manager is meant to be? Chuckle. Some of my bookmarks date back to days of Netscape Navigator and when saved as HTML it is ~2MB with >6000 lines. I forget how deeply nested some of my references are. If that doesn't work for you, why not export the Bookmarks to JSON using Bookmarks Manager>Tools>Backup..., edit the JSON, then Restore the modified file? 'Cause I don't know anything about JSON. Tools>Web Development>Scratchpad will open a JS editor with a pretty-printer that you'll likely need to make sense of the JSON. /df ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is there an SQLite3 app to manipulate SeaMonkey bookmarks
Is there a SQLite3 application which can:
1. read SeaMonkey bookmark files
2. manipulate the data [my bookmarks resemble Topsy - they just grew]
3. write the files back such that SeaMonkey can use the
cleaned up data?
I've not had *ANY* contact with any database system for DECADES {i.e.
dBASEII}. My gut says it should be possible. None of the bookmark
threads have suggested any feasible way to reorganize my current mess.
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Re: How to copy a mailing list
On 09/30/2019 10:23 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Hello, I created a mailing list to send mail to all the people in this list. I used this list to invite everyone to an activity. So far so good. Some people told me that they could not participate in this activity. Therefore the following e-mail should cover all persons except those who have withdrawn. I would like to copy the existing list with a different name and then in this list remove the people who will be absent. (I want to keep the original list to possibly make other invitations). So the question is: In the address-book how to copy a mailing-list ? SHORT answer: "I don't know." Longer answer: 1. Ask a related question: "How/where does SeaMonkey store 'mailing lists'?" 2. I suspect you will have to save original list in a different format. 3. With my background, I would likely convert it to a spreadsheet. 4. I would add "flag" fields for lists 1 -> . 5. Converting such a spreadsheet to SeaMonkey list is exercise left to the student. IOW 'i dont know' I can not answer your particular question. *BUT* I hope I have given useful suggestions as to how to approach the problem. YMMV ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Create IE Bookmark for Seamonkey?
On 09/15/2019 05:36 AM, Thomas Pamin wrote: There is a weather site that doesn't work in SM (actually none of the Accuweather radar sites work in SM). It does work in IE, so I'm trying to create a bookmark for SM that will open in IE. Maybe it's not possible, but any suggestions? https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar How does it "not work" in SeaMonkey? The above link worked for me using: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 I've never been to that site before. I like https://radar.weather.gov/ . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: News odditiy
On 09/11/2019 01:35 AM, Daniel wrote: Richard Owlett wrote on 11/09/2019 5:51 AM: I subscribe to two newsgroups which I would expect identical behavior. GROUP#1 Server info news.mozilla.org Port: 119 News rc file: home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.mozilla.org-1.rc Local directory: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.mozilla.org GROUP#2 Server info news.supernews.com Port:119 News rc file: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/newsrc-news.supernews.com Local directory: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.supernews.com *ALL* other entries for each group are the same. GROUP#1 retrieves messages *ONLY* on explicit request via Menu->Get Msgs GROUP#2 retrieves messages on explicit request via Menu->Get Msgs occasionally retrieves messages at times *I* cannot predict WHY? TIA! Richard, check "Server Settings" for the two Accounts under Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account settings. Are they the same?? Yes they are identical. That's what prompted my question ;< ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
News odditiy
I subscribe to two newsgroups which I would expect identical behavior. GROUP#1 Server info news.mozilla.org Port: 119 News rc file: home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.mozilla.org-1.rc Local directory: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.mozilla.org GROUP#2 Server info news.supernews.comPort:119 News rc file: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/newsrc-news.supernews.com Local directory: /home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/News/news.supernews.com *ALL* other entries for each group are the same. GROUP#1 retrieves messages *ONLY* on explicit request via Menu->Get Msgs GROUP#2 retrieves messages on explicit request via Menu->Get Msgs occasionally retrieves messages at times *I* cannot predict WHY? TIA! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Removing "Seamonkey blocked remote conten"t bar
WaltS48 wrote: > Chuck wrote: >> My wife's email window shows a yellow bar when some emails are opened >> which says 'Seamonkey has blocked remote content" >> and I cannot figure how to disable this. >> Can anyone tell me how? >> Thanks, >> Chuck > > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display and remove the check > mark for "Block images and other content from remote sources". ..although it is especially useful to block remote content in the case of spam. If you allow it, you've told the spammer you are a valid email address so you will then receive much more of it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Thread display in mail/news -- _NOT a bug_, just an annoying feature
On 08/28/2019 02:24 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Not only is it a feature, but typically a feature desired by most
users most of the time [EVEN me ;].
I make heavy use of customized tags (currently ~50). One frequent tag
indicates that the thread's content is of long term interest (tag
title is "my quest"). My default view is "my quest" OR "unread".
If View: is set to "All", the thread pane displays one line per thread
colored to match the highest priority tag in that thread.
Otherwise the thread pane displays one line per message in it's tag
color.
Excellent choice *USUALLY* ;/
However I'm subscribed to several large mailing list (the general list
for my OS of choice is currently >100k posts of which ~1k satisfy
{"my quest" OR "unread"}.
I would like those threads to be displayed as one line per thread
colored to match the highest priority tag in that thread.
As far as I can tell trying out a couple of the default views (View >
Messages > Tags > Personal and View > Messages > Custom Views > Recent
Mail), it does still show them as threaded. If not, you may be able to
set that at View > Sort by > Threaded. However, all threads are
initially expanded to show all the messages. View > Threads > Collapse
All Threads (or "\" on the keyboard) collapses each thread to a single
line. Does that work for your custom view?
Like a charm. With "*" and "\" I can switch back and forth at will.
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Thread display in mail/news -- _NOT a bug_, just an annoying feature
Not only is it a feature, but typically a feature desired by most users
most of the time [EVEN me ;].
I make heavy use of customized tags (currently ~50). One frequent tag
indicates that the thread's content is of long term interest (tag title
is "my quest"). My default view is "my quest" OR "unread".
If View: is set to "All", the thread pane displays one line per thread
colored to match the highest priority tag in that thread.
Otherwise the thread pane displays one line per message in it's tag color.
Excellent choice *USUALLY* ;/
However I'm subscribed to several large mailing list (the general list
for my OS of choice is currently >100k posts of which ~1k satisfy
{"my quest" OR "unread"}.
I would like those threads to be displayed as one line per thread
colored to match the highest priority tag in that thread.
Since Netscape, I have never considered the possible value of
addins/addons/extensions/etc. Is it time for me to "eat crow"?
Suggestions?
TIA
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Re: Required skill set for volunteers - was [Re: next version expected when?]
On 08/23/2019 03:35 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2019 08:07 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: That's a reading assignment that should occupy my time while I wait for 64 bit Debian 10 DVDs. [I've a data cap that discourages using netinst. Should be workable for downloading SeaMonkey source(s) for help system.] I did a very cursory browse of the 2 references. I suspect my initial contribution may be more "how to interact with tools" than with "tweaking user oriented "Help system"". Before retirement I was heavily into "customer support" and "QA/QC" [different industry, but similar problems]. Everyone can also help out with bugzilla. There are lots of unconfirmed bugs Some are obscure and should have never been filed. Some are completely outdated but some might just be real and need verification. Recently there are also a ton of bugs with website x does not work with SeaMonkey y while Firefox z works fine. I generally gave up commenting in them because I don't have time to check every bad website against SeaMonkey and these are mostly support cases not bugs. And usually it is the website. So would help to do some verification here too. I don't see how the links below guide to bug reports of "website x does not work with SeaMonkey y ...". I've never used a bug reporting system. My problems are typically of the PEBKAC variety ;/ Also, I don't have a recent Windows machine. Does SeaMonkey work well enough with WINE to verify if a site does work? Exploring WINE was already on my ToDo list. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/report.cgi?query_format=report-table=table=wrap_axis_field=bug_status_axis_field=component=SeaMonkey= https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance=---=Now_format=advanced=2018-01-01_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED=SeaMonkey_id=14863865 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Required skill set for volunteers - was [Re: next version expected when?]
On 08/23/2019 08:07 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/23/2019 07:03 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/22/2019 05:23 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: ... We are working on getting them signed but there we are again with not enough people around. Needed for macOS soon anyway. Is there a description of skills and hardware needed to be useful. I've been a computer _user_ for decades but have very minimal programming background. For compiling x64 Linux Windows or macOS at least 8 GB memory and a fast 4 to 8 core i5 or higher. Mostly javascript, css, xhtml, xul and xbl and only some c++. Skill whatever you think is useful even if it is only enhancing the help files or changing the website. I run only Debian Linux and have not done any programming since days of 8085 assembler and dBaseII. At the moment proofreading Help system for errors/omissions would be a starting point. I've never worked in a volunteer project environment. Doing patches to enhance help won't probably make you rich and famous but I usually recoomend this for starter to become familiar with the whole process. The sources are in mercurial. The requirements for Tb are mostly identical to SeaMonkey: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Build_Instructions/Simple_Thunderbird_build comm-central is broken but for help patches doesn't matter. Can be easily transplated to the working branches. Makes life easier too: https://tortoisehg.bitbucket.io/ That's a reading assignment that should occupy my time while I wait for 64 bit Debian 10 DVDs. [I've a data cap that discourages using netinst. Should be workable for downloading SeaMonkey source(s) for help system.] I did a very cursory browse of the 2 references. I suspect my initial contribution may be more "how to interact with tools" than with "tweaking user oriented "Help system"". Before retirement I was heavily into "customer support" and "QA/QC" [different industry, but similar problems]. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Past visited links aren't disappearing in my SM's history.
On 08/23/2019 07:11 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 8/22/2019 4:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 8/22/2019 3:28 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: History removal is somewhat broken in 2.49.5. It is all or nothing. Depending on what you did you might see an error in the log. Fixed in 2.53 by just replacing the Bookmarks Manager with the Fx library and adapting it. But fear not! Fx has an even better solution for you in place soon. Visited links will no longer be colored differently :) FRG Why not colored differently? For some of my browsing, I am very dependent on seeing the difference between recently visited links and not visited links. Ditto. At least, I know which ones I already visited. I hope that feature is optional at least and not fully removed! From what I read it will be fully removed. Chrome doesn't support it :) Does that imply that the Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Colors option to "ignore specified background colors and images" is will also be gone? I depend on that and the option to distinguish between visited and un-visited links. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Required skill set for volunteers - was [Re: next version expected when?]
On 08/23/2019 07:03 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/22/2019 05:23 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: ... We are working on getting them signed but there we are again with not enough people around. Needed for macOS soon anyway. Is there a description of skills and hardware needed to be useful. I've been a computer _user_ for decades but have very minimal programming background. For compiling x64 Linux Windows or macOS at least 8 GB memory and a fast 4 to 8 core i5 or higher. Mostly javascript, css, xhtml, xul and xbl and only some c++. Skill whatever you think is useful even if it is only enhancing the help files or changing the website. I run only Debian Linux and have not done any programming since days of 8085 assembler and dBaseII. At the moment proofreading Help system for errors/omissions would be a starting point. I've never worked in a volunteer project environment. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Required skill set for volunteers - was [Re: next version expected when?]
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Re: Simple solution for Google search box: (Re: google search box)
On 06/19/2019 08:13 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: I suffered from the Google search mess with SeaMonkey. Then I came across a solution: I turned off "advertise Firefox compatibility". To turn off "advertise Firefox compatibility" go to SeaMonkey's preferences click on Advance>HTTP Networking>(uncheck)Advertise Firefox compatibility. This fix solved the difficulties I was having with Google. Google returned to its normal appearance. Also With this setting turned off I have yet to find any negative effects on other sites. With this setting turned off, some sites even appear to work. *THANK YOU* ! I had assumed that Google was one of sites placing graphics at absolute positions rather than making them a function of font size. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Listing Mail/Newsgroups tag - HowTo?
On 06/06/2019 09:17 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
On 6/6/19 6:48 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
I find the Mail & Newsgroups Tags extremely useful.
I currently have ~50 discrete tags.
There is no problem with relative priorities - it evolves easily as
current needs change.
Color assignment is currently chaotic and *needs* an overhaul.
To do this I need a list of the current tags
preferably in current priority order
preferably with current assigned color
It's available somewhere as View->Tags can display it as a colorized
ordered list.
How can I retrieve that information?
TIA
Going to about:config and searching, I see tags listed like this in my
SeaMonkey.
mailnews.tags.$label1.color;#FF
mailnews.tags.$label1.tag;Important
mailnews.tags.$label2.color;#FF9900
mailnews.tags.$label2.tag;Work
and so on.
I was just going to write that, after 3 cups of coffee, I had found the
information in prefs.js .
There it has the format
user_pref("mailnews.tags.X.color", "Y");
user_pref("mailnews.tags.X.ordinal", "Z");
user_pref("mailnews.tags.X.tag", "the displayed lable");
Consider X and Z as not for human use.
Y is how SeaMonkey has coded the color.
I can copy that content to a file which I can manipulate for my needs.
[standard caveat - don't edit prefs.js directly ]
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Listing Mail/Newsgroups tag - HowTo?
I find the Mail & Newsgroups Tags extremely useful. I currently have ~50 discrete tags. There is no problem with relative priorities - it evolves easily as current needs change. Color assignment is currently chaotic and *needs* an overhaul. To do this I need a list of the current tags preferably in current priority order preferably with current assigned color It's available somewhere as View->Tags can display it as a colorized ordered list. How can I retrieve that information? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Efficient searching Seamonkey -- reoganizing tool?
On 05/12/2019 01:26 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote: EE: Use folders to categorize your bookmarks. That makes them easier to find. The point is finding those folders when searching. Hartmut ( *ROFL* ) ** [Avogadro's number)**(6.23*10**23);/ ! I agree with everyone so far. I'm looking for a solution [short of a time machine] to properly organize my bookmarks. I have an absolute minimum of ~200 folders. I do not believe my current nesting level exceeds ~4. I have an unknown number of links at the *SAME* level as my top level folders :< Caveat Lector Think I just discovered part of the problem, Some editors may be trying to be *TO* helpful :< When searching for significant HTML sub-strings they get lost. A significant sub-set of significant sub-strings include https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Efficient searching Seamonkey -- reoganizing tool?
Over the last decade bookmarks.html has grown to >1.8MB [When examined via ^U - it has ~6k lines] SeaMonkey can search for sub-string(s) in a bookmark. *BUT* it does not return any information about (sub)heading it is under making it difficult to locate logically related material. Has anyone created a tool reorganize existing bookmarks in a hierarchical structure. I would like to see no more than 20 subheadings|bookmarks under the next higher level? Other suggestions? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Filtering on Newsgroup cross-posted to??
On 03/27/2019 02:58 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Daniel wrote: Is it possible to "Mark as Read" any post cross-posted to a particular newsgroup?? On UseNet, some/several posters have a habit of cross-posting their messages to news group that I am not in the least interested in, so is it possible to set up a filter to "Mark as Read" any message that is Cross-posted to particular news group?? I've had a look in the Tools->Message Filters->New screen and it seems to allow to filter on "Subject", "From", "Date" and "Size" and it then offers "Customize". I'm guessing, if filtering on "newsgroups cross-posted to", it would be under this selection . Right?? Since you're not interested in the other group, why not just ignore it? Read the original in the group you like, and don't even subscribe to the other. Or am I missing something? I'm not the OP, but I can two uses. 1. If subscribed only to group A a cross-post to group B is a reliable indicator that post will not be of interest. [suspect is the OP's case] 2. When subscribed to both groups A and B it would be convenient to see the message only once. [would be useful to me] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Identify duplicate emails in folder - recovering from operator error :
I had just manually *copied* two treads from a primary folder to a special purpose folder. I then applied the wrong set of filters to the special purpose folder. The result was *MOVING* all content of the special folder back to the original. Any automated way to identify duplicates within a particular folder? I can do it manually but is tedious and possibly error prone. TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: LastPass
On 01/22/2019 08:01 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote: Anyone have an idea where to download a version of LastPass that works with Seamonkey? I seem not to have saved a copy of v 3.3.4, which still works reasonably well; but I'm setting up a new computer and need the *.xpi file. There are lots of references to these older versions in newsgroups and forums, but the links I've found are all dead. For the dead links you might try Internet Archive: Wayback Machine http://archive.org/web/web.php (None of the 4.n.n versions work with Seamonkey, even with the extension converter.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...
On 12/26/2018 02:55 PM, Jonathan Wilson wrote: Pretty much the only site I visit on a semi-regular basis that is unusable in SeaMonkey is a site that doesn't work because it needs the DRM plugins for media. (its a catch-up site for a TV network) There is only one site that I use regularly [my bank] for which I enable JavaScript or cookies. Only a couple of time a month to I bother to enable JavaScript in routine browsing. My personal opinion is that it is used to make a site p-u-r-t-y by adding glitz that obscures useful content. Who? Me? Opinionated? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: "Updating everyone…" --SeaMonkey Project Blog on 12/19/2018...
On 12/23/2018 06:12 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> In any case, I think it would be better to spend effort into
migration to
> something future oriented, even if it means to lose loved features or
> functionality, than to spend the effort in keeping something outdated
alive.
Personally my heart isn't into this. Even while paving the way to 2.57 I
am always going to add this and that to 2.53 because that is for me the
version where everything still works.
I date back back to Netscape 4. I use SeaMonkey because it kept a *VERY*
neat functional user interface {*LACKING* Firefox/Thunderbird}. I
particularly want to have browser and email in the same package. I even
occasionally use Composer. I don't have a current programming skill set
- 8080/8085 assembler primarily ;/
Browsers seem to be heading in the maximize glitz/glitter for for the
pure sake of playing with new toys. (end minor rant ;)
Thank you.
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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?
On 12/22/2018 12:12 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: [snip] Evidently question poorly stated. How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive? And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox? Thank you There are a couple of ways to accomplish what you want. * Use IMAP. :) I chose POP long ago for various reasons. * Manually copy the folder... 1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders account for the folder you want to import. I just needed the reminder that what I wanted was at "/home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/Mail/rowlett on PCNET/Inbox.sbd/0backup incoming" ;/ And, considering the time I spent in "9bzizhmz.slt" a couple of years ago, it should have been obvious. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?
On 12/22/2018 10:04 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine to another. I've just forgotten how to do it. The situation: My primary machine went to the shop for repair. I had to use a secondary machine for a while. I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder before applying my other filters. How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it returns from the shop? Two options: 1) Network the two computers, transfer over the network using your operating system's file-copying features; 2) Use the "sneakernet" (copy to removable media such as a flash drive, move the removable media to the target computer, use your OS's file-copying features). <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet> Sneakers not needed. The machines are 18" apart. Evidently question poorly stated. How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive? And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox? Thank you ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?
I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine to another. I've just forgotten how to do it. The situation: My primary machine went to the shop for repair. I had to use a secondary machine for a while. I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder before applying my other filters. How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it returns from the shop? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd "watch thread" behavior
On 12/04/2018 08:11 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 12/4/18 8:46 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/04/2018 07:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 12/4/18 7:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Infrequently [but often enough to be annoying] messages get marked "watch thread" without apparent cause. It happened again today. I read and then replied to USENET post. My post was tagged "watch thread". Why? TIA If you right click on the message does the "Watch Thread" context menu item have a check mark? Uncheck it. I had -- I date back to Netscape 4.? My question was why did it happen in the first place. The behavior goes back quite a ways - gut feel is several releases. BTW I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 My OS is Debian 9.1 There is a bug on Linux that if you open the context menu with a right click with the mouse close to the right edge of the pane, a context menu item will be enabled. <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1507535#c6> I think that explains other more frequent problems. I'll attempt to open the menus with intent of using "Tag" or "Mark" options. What will happen is one of: the message will be sent to trash. compose window will open as if I had chosen "Reply ..." . the message is moved to an archive folder. The thread mentioned spoke of work arounds. Will not have time immediately to check if they solve *my* problems. Thank you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd "watch thread" behavior
On 12/04/2018 07:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 12/4/18 7:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Infrequently [but often enough to be annoying] messages get marked "watch thread" without apparent cause. It happened again today. I read and then replied to USENET post. My post was tagged "watch thread". Why? TIA If you right click on the message does the "Watch Thread" context menu item have a check mark? Uncheck it. I had -- I date back to Netscape 4.? My question was why did it happen in the first place. The behavior goes back quite a ways - gut feel is several releases. BTW I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 Build identifier: 20180711182954 My OS is Debian 9.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Odd "watch thread" behavior
Infrequently [but often enough to be annoying] messages get marked "watch thread" without apparent cause. It happened again today. I read and then replied to USENET post. My post was tagged "watch thread". Why? TIA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Data Manager and Cookies
On 11/23/2018 10:04 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, because this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions and other settings. I hear the voice of real world experience :] That's why I mentioned that there was a similar _SYMPTOM_ in a nominally unrelated sub-system. I've a gut feel there is a problem in how Mozilla uses sqlite. [ *CAVEAT LECTOR* The last time I used a database was with dBaseII circa late 70's ;] Danny Kile wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Covered in the SeaMonkey release notes. Danny Kile wrote: However, Data Manager returns the following error: "Warning Unresponsive Script I look at the release note I fail to see anything mentioning, Warning Unresponsive Script. However, if I had would not know what to do about it. Is this something that will be fixed in the next release, or should I roll back to a previous version? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
