Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote on 25/3/21 5:24 pm:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 25/3/21 4:21 am:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


When I hit K I never see that thread or any remnants of it again.
Gone forever unless I manually edit the RC file.
Walt may right on it being a bug.

Well, that's two that think it works against just me suggesting it 
doesn't  so I *must* be wrong!! ;-(


Maybe I'll give CTRL-K and/or Shift-K a go!!


(Realising this service will be closing down in a few'ish days!!)

I've been using Shift-k a go for a few days ... and it seems to be 
kill-filing the branches of a Thread, so I think it is working correctly.


However, when I want to totally killfile a thread with lots of branches 
that should indicate I want to be using Ctrl-k, but Ctrl-k doesn't seem 
to do anything.


I noticed this failure in a thread that which had several 
"twigs"/sub-threads, where I had to mark each one in sequence.


These are just 'theories' a.t.t, but I'll keep testing. Maybe I need to 
use Upper case 'K' to get the proper action!! I'll let you know  if 
this place is still open when I come to further conclusions!!

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[Daniel]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 25/3/21 4:21 am:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


When I hit K I never see that thread or any remnants of it again.
Gone forever unless I manually edit the RC file.
Walt may right on it being a bug.

Well, that's two that think it works against just me suggesting it 
doesn't  so I *must* be wrong!! ;-(


Maybe I'll give CTRL-K and/or Shift-K a go!!
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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or Shift-k??


TIA.


When I hit K I never see that thread or any remnants of it again.
Gone forever unless I manually edit the RC file.
Walt may right on it being a bug.

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[WaltS48]

On 3/24/21 8:40 AM, Daniel wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 24/3/21 11:17 pm:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


The menu items I see are;

Message > Ignore Thread K and Message > Ignore Subthread Shift+K.


Yeah, but they only mark what's there NOW as read, I think. Not a 
permanent fix!


I'm not familiar with the feature.

Maybe a bug?

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 24/3/21 11:17 pm:

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or 
Shift-k??


TIA.


The menu items I see are;

Message > Ignore Thread K and Message > Ignore Subthread Shift+K.


Yeah, but they only mark what's there NOW as read, I think. Not a 
permanent fix!

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Re: Kill-filing threads for good??

[WaltS48]

Daniel wrote:
Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or Shift-k??


TIA.


The menu items I see are;

Message > Ignore Thread K and Message > Ignore Subthread Shift+K.
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Kill-filing threads for good??

[Daniel]

Quite often, on UseNet, I come across threads which I don't have the 
slightest interest in. Usually, I hit 'k' to kill-file the thread.


But, then someone posts into that thread and I see it again.

How do I kill-file a thread, in my SeaMonkey, so I never see it again 
. until I completely reload that newsgroup?? CTRL-K, maybe or Shift-k??


TIA.
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SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210117210643


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-09-01, Slugracing wrote:


Slugracing wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

[...]

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes


Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
whether this happens with both packages or not.



Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly
from SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I
always do and have at this point in time an improvement in ram
usage, down around 40%.

Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.

Thanks



Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period
of a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.

Pity I was hoping for a fix.


Hi,

Thanks for testing! Would you say it behaves mostly in the same way or
does it take noticeably longer to show these issues?



Honestly ball park the same give or take.
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-09-01, Slugracing wrote:

> Slugracing wrote:
>> Nuno Silva wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:
>>>
 Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:
>>> [...]
>> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
>> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
>> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
>> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
>> this its slow as a wet week.
>>
>> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
>> ram for the same sites open.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Are you using the binaries from
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
> it a distribution-compiled version?


 Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
 seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes
>>>
>>> Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
>>> whether this happens with both packages or not.
>>>
>>
>> Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly
>> from SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I
>> always do and have at this point in time an improvement in ram
>> usage, down around 40%.
>>
>> Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period
> of a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.
>
> Pity I was hoping for a fix.

Hi,

Thanks for testing! Would you say it behaves mostly in the same way or
does it take noticeably longer to show these issues?

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/1/20 12:40 AM, Slugracing wrote:

Slugracing wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

[...]

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and 
because of

this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as 
much

ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ 
or is

it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes


Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to 
know

whether this happens with both packages or not.



Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly from 
SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I always do 
and have at this point in time an improvement in ram usage, down 
around 40%.


Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.

Thanks



Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period 
of a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.


Pity I was hoping for a fix.




Doing any cryptomining?






hahah No Im not
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[WaltS48]

On 9/1/20 12:40 AM, Slugracing wrote:

Slugracing wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

[...]

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ 
or is

it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes


Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
whether this happens with both packages or not.



Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly from 
SM website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I always do 
and have at this point in time an improvement in ram usage, down 
around 40%.


Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.

Thanks



Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period of 
a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.


Pity I was hoping for a fix.




Doing any cryptomining?



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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Slugracing wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

[...]

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ 
or is

it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes


Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
whether this happens with both packages or not.



Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly from SM 
website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I always do and 
have at this point in time an improvement in ram usage, down around 40%.


Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.

Thanks



Ok I can safely say Im still having the same issues .. over a period of 
a few hours CPU and RAM go through the roof.


Pity I was hoping for a fix.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:


Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

[...]

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes


Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
whether this happens with both packages or not.



Ok I have been using 2.53.4b1 for a few days downloaded directly from SM 
website, I have been doing pretty much the same things I always do and 
have at this point in time an improvement in ram usage, down around 40%.


Ill keep using this for a few more days and report back again.

Thanks
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-19, Slugracing wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:
[...]
>>> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
>>> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
>>> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
>>> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
>>> this its slow as a wet week.
>>>
>>> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
>>> ram for the same sites open.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>
>
> Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from
> seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes

Thanks! Please let us know how it goes - it will be very helpful to know
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).


Perhaps you downloaded the proposed executable .exe file and run it.
My way of using zoom is to refuse, but ask the download and at a certain 
moment zoom propose me to work inside the brower.
To see if you can use/open your microphone and camera, could you try 
https://meet.jit.si/RAY-MEETING
When I try this I have in the bottom of the screen this text: "Audio and 
video error: navigator mediaDevices is undefined"
If this is the same ... we have the same problem and you use zoom 
directly by running their program.
Note for Frank-Rainer Grahl who want to  hand me a tissue :-) : I am not 
complaining, it's just to understand why mister "meagain" can use zoom.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Edward wrote:

Fedora 32, x86_64: seamonkey-2.53.3-3.fc32.x86_64

PID USER  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ 
COMMAND
4766 edward   20   0 3463452 625444 174552 S   2.7  16.6   7:08.80 
seamonk+


The above is from 'top' as of right now. As I am not on YouTube right 
now and Swap isn't being used, there is /currently/ no slowdown in 
performance.


YouTube also has music. Some individual tracks from albums will also 
display a static video, it's usually the album cover for the duration of 
the track.


Ok that's good info, but you need to show the initial state, and then 
the state after xxx minutes showing the problem.


It sounds like a 'youtube' issue, as opposed to a SeaMonkey issue. You 
need to do the same test with some media that is not on youtube, e.g. 
put it on your own web server. The videos that just show an album cover 
are not music, they are videos, but with just one frame repeated, I'm 
not sure if it plays the same frame thousands of times, or if it somehow 
knows there's only one frame and freezes it, but either way, it's still 
a video.


If you can show that playing a music file in SeaMonkey, that is not on 
youtube, is using progressively more memory as it plays, then that would 
be a serious problem in SeaMonkey. Do you know which libraries SeaMokey 
uses behind the scenes to play media files?


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in
private?


He is telling you he has an issue, just like most of us do. Flipping
him off like that is child like.

I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
this its slow as a wet week.

None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
ram for the same sites open.

Thanks


Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?



Distro version (manjaro). I have now just downloaded the ones from 
seamonkey and will try this for a few days and see how it goes



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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-19, Ray_Net wrote:

> meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:
>>  Original Message 
>>> EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:
 Lance Courtland wrote:
> It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web
> browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then
> Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed
> by the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs,
> and kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully
> function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.
>
> Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a
> burden. SM seems to have been brought down by the difference
> between "you can do all this to make it work however you want"
> and "you have to do all this to make it work at all."
>
> I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of
> developers have put in to keep SM alive.
>
> I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I
> like a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM
> Email open in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always
> resisted adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms
> of the digital world, but it has become too burdensome to
> continue being a browser salmon.
>
> Parting is such sweet sorrow.
>
> Lance

 Why use Chrome? 
>>> Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem
>>> with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did
>>> not work using SM.
>>>
>> Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).
>>
> This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
> and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you
> use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

meagain's User-Agent string in the newsgroup post seems to be identical
to yours, so it looks like [1] you're both using 32-bit builds.

[1] Unless there is any User-Agent spoofing, or a different SeaMonkey
version is being used to participate in this group/list.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-18, Edward wrote:

> Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
>> it a distribution-compiled version?
>>
>> If it is a distribution version, can you please see if the same happens
>> with the binaries from the project website?
>
> I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the
> Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through
> YouTube or a web site, after it's been running for a while.

Can you reproduce this easily and consistently? Does it happen with all
videos or just with specific videos?

> This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage
> of memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other
> web browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition
> becomes active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system.

If you can reproduce this easily and you're able to give a try to the
version from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/, it would be good to
know whether it behaves in the same way or not.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).

This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you 
use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Edward]

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Edward wrote:
I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the 
Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through 
YouTube or a web site, after it's been running for a while.


This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage 
of memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other 
web browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition 
becomes active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system.


Which Fedora Supplied package and which o/s distro, version?

On Linux, you should quickly be able to see who is using what, for 
example using "System Monitor" and then go to "Processes", sort by 
Memory with highest at the top.


You should see SeaMonkey at abnout 300MiB

Note the value from a cold start, then time how long before it reaches 
the value that you are concerned about.


It's unlikely listening to music would cause this, but the word 
"youtube" rings alarm bells as it's not "music", it's running hundreds 
of horrible JavaScripts launching hundreds of adverts and attacking your 
computer.


If you think it's music, trace the URL to the real music file (or 
stream) and run the same test again (outside of youtube).


I didn't even know youtube had music, I thought it was video.


Fedora 32, x86_64: seamonkey-2.53.3-3.fc32.x86_64

PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ 
COMMAND
4766 edward   20   0 3463452 625444 174552 S   2.7  16.6   7:08.80 
seamonk+


The above is from 'top' as of right now. As I am not on YouTube right 
now and Swap isn't being used, there is /currently/ no slowdown in 
performance.


YouTube also has music. Some individual tracks from albums will also 
display a static video, it's usually the album cover for the duration of 
the track.



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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Edward wrote:
I have noticed increased memory usage with SeaMonkey, using the 
Fedora-supplied package, when listening to music either through YouTube 
or a web site, after it's been running for a while.


This could actually be something Linux is doing relating to the usage of 
memory, because I have seen the exact same issue occur with other web 
browsers, not just SeaMonkey. After a while, the Swap partition becomes 
active, then there is a noticeable slowdown of the system.


Which Fedora Supplied package and which o/s distro, version?

On Linux, you should quickly be able to see who is using what, for 
example using "System Monitor" and then go to "Processes", sort by 
Memory with highest at the top.


You should see SeaMonkey at abnout 300MiB

Note the value from a cold start, then time how long before it reaches 
the value that you are concerned about.


It's unlikely listening to music would cause this, but the word 
"youtube" rings alarm bells as it's not "music", it's running hundreds 
of horrible JavaScripts launching hundreds of adverts and attacking your 
computer.


If you think it's music, trace the URL to the real music file (or 
stream) and run the same test again (outside of youtube).


I didn't even know youtube had music, I thought it was video.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[meagain]

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function 
on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but 
it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with 
SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work 
using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-18, Slugracing wrote:

> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>
>> Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in
>> private? 
>
> He is telling you he has an issue, just like most of us do. Flipping
> him off like that is child like.
>
> I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to
> another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of
> control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled,
> and I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of
> this its slow as a wet week.
>
> None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much
> ram for the same sites open.
>
> Thanks

Are you using the binaries from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or is
it a distribution-compiled version?

If it is a distribution version, can you please see if the same happens
with the binaries from the project website?

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Slugracing]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in private? 


He is telling you he has an issue, just like most of us do. Flipping him 
off like that is child like.


I too have come to a fork in the road and am now looking to move to 
another browser. the stalling and memory usage has now gotten out of 
control. since we move to the 2.53 series my ram usage has doubled, and 
I don't have double the ram so it swaps constantly and because of this 
its slow as a wet week.


None of the other browsers I have tried including Firefox use as much 
ram for the same sites open.


Thanks
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

AndrésH wrote:

EE escribió:

Lance Courtland wrote:

By the way, the website of eldiario.es , a "new" online newspaper in Spain , 
has recently refurbished its site. And the login process as a user/member of 
the paper doesn't work in SM 2.53.3. Before the change of the site, everything 
worked fine.


The new site works with Firefox and Pale Moon. I suspect that the version of 
Gecko of SM is outdated for the new features of the website. I hope the next 
version of SM resolves that compatibility problem.





When is the next release scheduled ?


The 2.53.4 beta is due out any day. I it does not crash outright it should be 
very very ver stable :)


The Gecko version of Palemoon was originally 52. 2.53 was 56 but set to 60 for 
compatibility reasons. Both have extensionve changes. Ours a bit more 
extensive and a lot of later versions in. Might just be bad user agent 
sniffing unless we missed porting something. We have also still disabled ES6 
modules because there are still a few issues open. This might be it. Check the 
error log and see if you spot something.


FRG
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[AndrésH]

EE escribió:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function 
on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but 
it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google.  I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.


By the way, the website of eldiario.es , a "new" online newspaper in 
Spain , has recently refurbished its site. And the login process as a 
user/member of the paper doesn't work in SM 2.53.3. Before the change of 
the site, everything worked fine.


The new site works with Firefox and Pale Moon. I suspect that the 
version of Gecko of SM is outdated for the new features of the website. 
I hope the next version of SM resolves that compatibility problem.


When is the next release scheduled ?
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ant]

On 8/16/2020 1:19 PM, EE wrote:

Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google. I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.


If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time 
if you are after web compatibility with newer sites.


I use both.  I found I was using Pale Moon more for browsing, so I made 
it my default.  I think the two of them are diverging somewhat.  Some 
pages that do not work properly with SeaMonkey now work with Pale Moon.


What Gecko versions do SeaMonkey and Pale Moon use these days?
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 16-08-20 01:14:



Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.




Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in 
private? As stated that was never a supported feature and we do what 
we can. If it is not enough for you just leave. A lot of sites I never 
vist have probably problems. The ones I use frequently still work but 
I am staying away from google based services where 90% of the bigger 
problems are.


FRG
So, what must I do when: I can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[EE]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



EE wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google. I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.




If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time if 
you are after web compatibility with newer sites.


FRG

I use both.  I found I was using Pale Moon more for browsing, so I made 
it my default.  I think the two of them are diverging somewhat.  Some 
pages that do not work properly with SeaMonkey now work with Pale Moon.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with SM, 
per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work using SM.




Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in private? As 
stated that was never a supported feature and we do what we can. If it is not 
enough for you just leave. A lot of sites I never vist have probably problems. 
The ones I use frequently still work but I am staying away from google based 
services where 90% of the bigger problems are.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 22:59:

Ray_Net wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 02:27:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default. I have always resisted adopting 
the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, 
but it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.



Why not using Thunderbird as mail program instead of SM ?

Ray_Net,

Because I already have SM mail working the way I like it, and I don't 
want to have to go through a new install, configuration, connecting to 
4 email accounts, and figure out how to get TB to open links in Chrome.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I suppose that because thunderbird is not a suite, the only way of 
starting a browser to open  a link is to pass the link information to 
the default browser - more simple than using SM.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Lance Courtland]

Ray_Net wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 02:27:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, 
each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a 
wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.



Why not using Thunderbird as mail program instead of SM ?

Ray_Net,

Because I already have SM mail working the way I like it, and I don't 
want to have to go through a new install, configuration, connecting to 4 
email accounts, and figure out how to get TB to open links in Chrome.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function 
on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but 
it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with 
SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work 
using SM.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ray_Net]

Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 02:27:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, 
each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a 
wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.



Why not using Thunderbird as mail program instead of SM ?
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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

EE wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to Google.  
I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have other chromium 
browsers, but not Chrome.




If you use Pale Moon you can continue using SeaMonkey. Waste of time if you 
are after web compatibility with newer sites.


FRG

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[EE]

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web browser. 
I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape Navigator, 
then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the quantity and 
complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, each 
constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a wide 
variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden.  SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all this 
to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome?  It is spyware, and reports where you browse back to 
Google.  I made my default browser Pale Moon, and I like it.  I have 
other chromium browsers, but not Chrome.


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WHY?????????? -- Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Richard Owlett]

On 08/14/2020 07:27 PM, Lance Courtland wrote:

It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey ...


I use SeaMonkey 2.49 under Debian with *NO* problems _whatsoever_.
I started with Netscape Communicator under whatever flavor of Widoze was 
current back in the day.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Edward]

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web browser. 
I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape Navigator, 
then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the quantity and 
complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, each 
constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a wide 
variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden.  SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all this 
to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Please don't give up on SeaMonkey. I've been with this since the 
Netscape days. When I 'graduated' from Commodore 64 to Windows 95, a 
good 23 years ago, the first software I downloaded on Windows (although 
on 56K dial-up back then), was Netscape Communicator. Stayed with that 
as well as with the Mozilla Suite - which eventually became SeaMonkey.


All because, I like using a suite.

Aside from adding Extensions/Add-Ons and Themes, I'm not aware myself of 
any other customization available for SeaMonkey.


I run Fedora Linux today and use the Fedora-supplied SeaMonkey package.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-08-15, Lance Courtland wrote:

> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>> Lance Courtland wrote:
>>> Ken Rudolph wrote:
 Lance Courtland wrote:

> I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I
> like a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM
> Email open in Chrome, which is now my default. 

 Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have
 links open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work,
 too.  I just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click
 on the link. Thanks.

>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Try this.  I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3
>>>
>>> 1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows
>>> default programs.  Reboot computer.
>>> 2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser.  Make
>>> sure SM is not your default browser.
>>> 3.In SM browser, go to about:config.  Search for
>>> network.protocol-handler.external.http.  If it exists, set it to
>>> false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to
>>> false.
>>> 4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https.
>>> 5. Still in about:config, search for
>>> network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to
>>> false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to
>>> false.
>>> 6. Close SM and reboot computer.
>>
>> *sigh*.  Neither *.http or *.https exists in my config file.  I
>> suppose I could figure out how to create them as a boolean since
>> years ago I did futz around with the config file per a suggestion on
>> this newsgroup. However, nowadays my computer savvy is not as
>> effective as it once was; so I'll just have to continue with my
>> practice of copying and pasting the links into Firefox by hand.
>>
>> Anyway, congratulation to you for succeeding and thanks for the hint!
>>
> Ken,
>
> Don't give up just yet.  Here's how to create a new config preference.
> 1. In SM browser, put about:config in address bar, hit enter
> 2. Right click anywhere in list of preferences
> 3. Select New, then Boolean
> 4. Enter preference name, i.e. network.protocol-handler.external.http,
> then click OK
> 5. In the popup window "Enter boolean value", select false, click OK.
> 6. Repeat steps 2-5 until all preferences entered.
> 7. Reboot.

I think it might be "expose", not "external", see [1].

Here I was able to open http(s) links (from inside Mail&News) using an
external browser after creating network.protocol-handler.expose.http and
network.protocol-handler.expose.https, both as booleans set to false.

(After this, if I try to open such a link, SeaMonkey asks me to choose a
helper application to open it with, and I can set it to "Remember my
choice".)


[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol#Firefox_3.5_and_above
(compared with the "[...] up to 3.0" subsection which follows)
(This is all inside the "Linux" section, but seems to work in
Windows as well.)

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Lance Courtland]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default. 


Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have 
links open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work, too.  
I just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the 
link. Thanks.



Ken,

Try this.  I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3

1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows
default programs.  Reboot computer.
2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser.  Make sure 
SM is not your default browser.
3.In SM browser, go to about:config.  Search for 
network.protocol-handler.external.http.  If it exists, set it to 
false. If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https.
5. Still in about:config, search for 
network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to false. If 
it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

6. Close SM and reboot computer.


*sigh*.  Neither *.http or *.https exists in my config file.  I suppose 
I could figure out how to create them as a boolean since years ago I did 
futz around with the config file per a suggestion on this newsgroup. 
However, nowadays my computer savvy is not as effective as it once was; 
so I'll just have to continue with my practice of copying and pasting 
the links into Firefox by hand.


Anyway, congratulation to you for succeeding and thanks for the hint!


Ken,

Don't give up just yet.  Here's how to create a new config preference.
1. In SM browser, put about:config in address bar, hit enter
2. Right click anywhere in list of preferences
3. Select New, then Boolean
4. Enter preference name, i.e. network.protocol-handler.external.http, 
then click OK

5. In the popup window "Enter boolean value", select false, click OK.
6. Repeat steps 2-5 until all preferences entered.
7. Reboot.

Lance


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ken Rudolph]

Lance Courtland wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default. 


Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have 
links open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work, too.  I 
just don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the link.  
Thanks.



Ken,

Try this.  I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3

1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows
default programs.  Reboot computer.
2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser.  Make sure SM 
is not your default browser.
3.In SM browser, go to about:config.  Search for 
network.protocol-handler.external.http.  If it exists, set it to false. 
If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https.
5. Still in about:config, search for 
network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to false. If it 
doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

6. Close SM and reboot computer.


*sigh*.  Neither *.http or *.https exists in my config file.  I suppose 
I could figure out how to create them as a boolean since years ago I did 
futz around with the config file per a suggestion on this newsgroup. 
However, nowadays my computer savvy is not as effective as it once was; 
so I'll just have to continue with my practice of copying and pasting 
the links into Firefox by hand.


Anyway, congratulation to you for succeeding and thanks for the hint!

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Lance Courtland]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default. 


Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have links 
open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work, too.  I just 
don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the link.  Thanks.



Ken,

Try this.  I'm using Windows 10, SM 2.53.3

1. Make Firefox your default browser, from Firefox and in Windows
default programs.  Reboot computer.
2. In SM check Edit/Preferences/Browser, Default browser.  Make sure SM 
is not your default browser.
3.In SM browser, go to about:config.  Search for 
network.protocol-handler.external.http.  If it exists, set it to false. 
If it doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

4. Do the same as step 3 for network.protocol-handler.external.https.
5. Still in about:config, search for 
network.protocol-handler.warn-external.mailto and set it to false. If it 
doesn't exist, create it as a boolean and set it to false.

6. Close SM and reboot computer.

As far as I can remember, that's how I got this to work.

I find it highly ironic that the SeaMonkey browser's vaunted 
customizability is precisely what enables us to bring about its demise.


HTH,

Lance

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Ken Rudolph]

Lance Courtland wrote:

I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default. 


Could you specify how you managed this feat?  I would like to have links 
open in the Firefox browser.  However Chrome would work, too.  I just 
don't know how to redirect the browser when I click on the link.  Thanks.


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Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

[Lance Courtland]

It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web browser. 
I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape Navigator, 
then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the quantity and 
complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, each 
constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a wide 
variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden.  SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all this 
to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance
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2.53 autopagerize not work good

[smatest]

I have a autpagerize that work in 2.49.
In 2.53 it also work but if load Google scroll down and load page then i 
switch to other browser tab and return to Google tab it not work anymore.

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[meagain]

 Original Message 


After struggling with this same problem for a long time finally I have 
found

an excellent solution:  it is a smal program named "Everything" from
http://www.voidtools.com

Light, free and fast, it the best I have ever seen.

 


NOTE: 'Upgrade' do Windows 10 ?  You guys must be kidding.

Desiree wrote on 30/06/2018 00:47:


It was once possible to download a version of google that would index 
all your files, including content.  Naturally it took a lot of space!

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Rubens via support-seamonkey]

After struggling with this same problem for a long time finally I have found
an excellent solution:  it is a smal program named "Everything" from
http://www.voidtools.com

Light, free and fast, it the best I have ever seen.


NOTE: 'Upgrade' do Windows 10 ?  You guys must be kidding.

Desiree wrote on 30/06/2018 00:47:
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[cyberzen]

DoctorBill a écrit :

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


search function in total commander
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Desiree]

On 6/28/2018 11:53 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill

I second J. Weaver's suggestion to get Agent Ransack which is free to 
home users.  I was turned on to it by (of all things) several Microsoft 
engineers who were telling everyone to forget Windows Search in Vista 
way back not long after Vista was released. This was on a Microsoft 
engineer's blog page where there were many angry comments as Vista 
Search was nothing like the outstanding Windows 2000/XP search.


These engineers promised that Search would again be great in the next OS 
(Windows 7). That, of course, did not happen as with each succeeding OS, 
Search has become worse. With Windows 10 is has become an abomination 
that tattles everything to Microsoft and it can't find anything.


After reading all the small business and home user replies to the 
Microsoft engineer's blog after they began using Agent Ransack, I 
decided to try it. I have never looked back. It is excellent and reminds 
me of search in Windows 2000/XP.  It was one of the first programs I 
installed on Windows 10 after I killed that horrible spying Cortana 
(wish I could completely uninstall it)!

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Ray_Net]

Arnie Goetchius wrote on 29-06-18 16:19:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill

Windows 10?


   Windows 7...!


It was a suggestion to update to Win10. ;)




Agree. Win 10 has a very good search function

Not so good as :
SUPER FINDER XP
From: http://fsl.sytes.net/ssearchxt.html

 Super Finder XT  1.6.3.2 (01 May 2011)     With Installer 183845 
downloads     Download now!


setup_SuperFinderXT.exe (49MB)
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and 
Crude.


I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Windows 10?


  Windows 7...!



It was a suggestion to update to Win10. ;)




And send info about everything you do to Microsoft.  Right!

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Felix Miata]

DoctorBill composed on 2018-06-28 14:53 (UTC-0700):

> I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.
> 
> I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions.

Search function built into any OFM. The one I use: FC/W
http://silk.apana.org.au/fc.html
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.


Agent Ransack aka FileLocator Lite. <https://www.mythicsoft.com/>  -JW

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Arnie Goetchius]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 6/28/18 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>>> I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.
>>>>
>>>> I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>> Windows 10?
>>>
>>   Windows 7...!
>>
> 
> It was a suggestion to update to Win10. ;)
> 
> 
> 
Agree. Win 10 has a very good search function
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[WaltS48]

On 6/28/18 9:31 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Windows 10?


  Windows 7...!



It was a suggestion to update to Win10. ;)



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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[DoctorBill]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Everything.
Get it directly from it's true home:
https://www.voidtools.com/




OK.
I've got it.
Thank you all !

DB

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[DoctorBill]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Windows 10?


 Windows 7...!

DB
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[WaltS48]

On 6/28/18 5:53 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Windows 10?

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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


Everything.
Get it directly from it's true home:
https://www.voidtools.com/


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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[DoctorBill]

Mark B wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


I like Everything:  https://everything.en.softonic.com/.

It's free, very fast, indexes multiple drives, and has many good features.

Mark B.


What's with the $50 cost ?   Is the Free Version "lite" ?
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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[Mark B]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill


I like Everything:  https://everything.en.softonic.com/.

It's free, very fast, indexes multiple drives, and has many good features.

Mark B.
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A good (free) File Search program ?

[DoctorBill]

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.

DoctorBill
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Re: Good news for adventurous MAC - SeaMonkey - users ...

[EE]

John Duncan wrote:

EE wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

... you can find here .

Best regards


Rainer


Exactly where is the Mac release?  I could not find it.  All I could
find was the notice about it.


https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-mac64/


Thanks

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Re: Good news for adventurous MAC - SeaMonkey - users ...

[John Duncan]

EE wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

... you can find here .

Best regards


Rainer


Exactly where is the Mac release?  I could not find it.  All I could
find was the notice about it.


https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-mac64/
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Re: Good news for adventurous MAC - SeaMonkey - users ...

[EE]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

... you can find here .

Best regards


Rainer

Exactly where is the Mac release?  I could not find it.  All I could 
find was the notice about it.


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Re: Good news for adventurous MAC - SeaMonkey - users ...

[Rainer Bielefeld]

I should have read Adrian's posting above before typing  ಠ_ಠ

CU

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Good news for adventurous MAC - SeaMonkey - users ...

[Rainer Bielefeld]

... you can find here .

Best regards


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Re: seamonkey-2.49a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ... looking good

[Luis]

sean wrote:
Messing around on an elder Dell tower that I've recently switched from 
WinXP to dual boot Win7 & PeppermintOS Linux 7. Thought I'd throw the 
latest Seamonkey on to test...


from 11/22 ... 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/seamonkey-2.49a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 



sean


Thanks Sean for let us know.  I downloaded the win32 version and looks 
good as well.

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Re: seamonkey-2.49a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 ... looking good

[Gérard]

On 11/22/2016 06:09 PM, Sean wrote:

Messing around on an elder Dell tower that I've recently switched from WinXP to
dual boot Win7 & PeppermintOS Linux 7. Thought I'd throw the latest Seamonkey on
to test...

from 11/22 ...
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/seamonkey-2.49a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2


sean


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[sean]

Messing around on an elder Dell tower that I've recently switched from 
WinXP to dual boot Win7 & PeppermintOS Linux 7. Thought I'd throw the 
latest Seamonkey on to test...


from 11/22 ... 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/seamonkey-2.49a2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[JAS]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/24/2016 at 10:56 AM, JAS's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.



It stopped working at one point but Philip Chee fixed it and I believe
it works with current SM.

I tried it and it will not work for me using SM 2.40 on XP SP3. I 
installed jslib 1.33 and restarted and tried to install the latest 
tagzilla I could find which was .066.2 but it showed .64 and would 
install but would not accept a list. At one time I had a 0.7a1 installed 
with jslib 14 installed and worked but had uninstalled it when it quit 
at one time.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/24/2016 at 1:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language,
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9%
chance, etc.



Nice idea but PAT automatically inserts a tag when you open a compose
window.  There's no way to insert a tag once the compose window is open.


No, I'm saying discard (close) the compose window. Whether it's a new 
message or a reply, you haven't "lost your work" if you do so before 
typing any of your message.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 1:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language,
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9%
chance, etc.



Nice idea but PAT automatically inserts a tag when you open a compose 
window.  There's no way to insert a tag once the compose window is open.


However, if you right-click PAT and choose Settings, you can click the 
Last Result tab and see what's there.  If it's the wrong language click 
the Pick-a-Tab tab and click for a new tagline.  Could be a little 
tedious to finally get the right language tagline.  /Then/ open a 
compose/reply/forward window.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one
French, and use different tagline files for each.


Another possible workaround:

Create one file that contains a 50:50 mix of English and French 
taglines. Then when you click "Reply," if you get the wrong language, 
just discard it and try again. Two tries gives you a 75% chance, three 
tries an 88% chance, four tries a 93% chance, ... 10 tries a 99.9% 
chance, etc.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 12:21 PM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 24/10/2016 17:51:

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore
and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.

<http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_sigtag.php>

Tagzilla is another:

<http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/>


Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you
are interested the file is:

<https://edmullen.net/pickatag_taglines.txt>


I understand correctly, but how can I choose the tag-file of the
language I am interest at  - for the mail I wrote (this mail is written
in french or in english, and it would be better to pick a tag in the
same language)?
So I need TWO files, one in english and one in french .. But I think
that PAT use only one file ...


One file, yes.  You could create a new SM profile, one English, one 
French, and use different tagline files for each.



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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 24/10/2016 17:51:

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore 
and it

leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.

<http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_sigtag.php>

Tagzilla is another:

<http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/>


Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for 
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor 
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you 
are interested the file is:


<https://edmullen.net/pickatag_taglines.txt>

I understand correctly, but how can I choose the tag-file of the 
language I am interest at  - for the mail I wrote (this mail is written 
in french or in english, and it would be better to pick a tag in the 
same language)?
So I need TWO files, one in english and one in french .. But I think 
that PAT use only one file ...

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 10:56 AM, JAS's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.



It stopped working at one point but Philip Chee fixed it and I believe 
it works with current SM.


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/24/2016 at 5:41 AM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.

<http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_sigtag.php>

Tagzilla is another:

<http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/>


Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)


I forget how Tagzilla works but PAT uses a simple plain-text file for 
the taglines. So use whatever language you like and your text editor 
supports. Mine has over 500 lines which PAT inserts randomly.  If you 
are interested the file is:


<https://edmullen.net/pickatag_taglines.txt>

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[JAS]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:



Will Tagzilla still work in Seamonkey? I had used it but it seems that 
if quit and I did switch to PAT and had no problem with it.


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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/24/2016 6:18 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On 24/10/2016 1:56 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> 
> 
>> Oops!  I almost forgot the following.
>>
>> In file user.js in my profile, I inserted:
>>  user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", false);
>>  //  in case I forget, disables HTML5 media
>> Do not forget to include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
>> line.  The second line is a comment to remind me why I have this in
>> user.js.
> 
> David, is autoplay only a function of HTML5 or would a pref 
> "user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", true); cause any type of 
> media/video file to autoplay??
> 

When I first updated user.js for this, I was under the impression that
it applied only to HTML5 media.  I do not recall why that was my
impression.  I can guess that it might have been because HTML5 media was
the only media/video capability inherent in the browser that did not
require a plugin or extension.

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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[Daniel]

On 24/10/2016 1:56 AM, David E. Ross wrote:



Oops!  I almost forgot the following.

In file user.js in my profile, I inserted:
user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", false);
//  in case I forget, disables HTML5 media
Do not forget to include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
line.  The second line is a comment to remind me why I have this in
user.js.


David, is autoplay only a function of HTML5 or would a pref 
"user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", true); cause any type of 
media/video file to autoplay??


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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 23/10/2016 17:42:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.

<http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_sigtag.php>

Tagzilla is another:

<http://tagzilla.mozdev.org/>

Good ideas, but sometime I write in english, and sometime I write in 
French so in what language is the tag file list ? :-)

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 1:22 PM, G. Ross wrote:


I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?


Random Tagline Manager

http://programs.fbrower.com/


Thanks. :)
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

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On 10/23/16 1:28 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>> On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
 I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
 leaks memory. :(

 Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>> Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tagzilla is another:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>> Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.
>
> Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall 
> again. :D

Responded directly.

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[G. Ross]

Ant wrote:

On 10/23/2016 4:51 AM, G. Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?


Random Tagline Manager

http://programs.fbrower.com/

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/23/2016 at 1:28 PM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.


Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall
again. :D


HTH.  :-)

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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[NoOp]

On 10/22/2016 11:48 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 1/8/2014 10:44 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/8/2014 11:40 AM W3BNR submitted the following:
>>> On 1/8/2014 11:04 AM Ant submitted the following:
>>>> On 1/8/2014 6:49 AM PT, Ed typed:
>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to use FlashBlock extension again since I dumped it because
>>>>>> both the latest SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers have plug-in blockers
>>>>>> for Flash, Silverlight, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't want to see it, in about:config set
>>>>> media.webm.enabled to 'false'.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. It would be easier to have a button. :)
>>>
>>> I seen you're running SM2.23.  If you have 'PrefBar' installed you can
>>> easily create a button of its menu.  Insturctions:
>>>
>>> 1. Right click anywhere on 'PrefBar' and select 'Customize PrefBar'.
>>> 2. Right click anywhere in the 'Available Items' box and select 'New'.
>>> 3. From drop-down menu select 'Checkbox'.
>>> 4. Fill in the 'Checkbox' form as follows:
>>>  a.  Id:WebM
>>>  b.  Label: WebM
>>>  c.  toPrep:value
>>>  d.  fromPrep:  value
>>>  e.  Hotkey:(disabled)
>>> 5. Click on 'Apply.
>>>
>>>
>>> New 'Item Name' (WebM) should now appear in the left column.
>>Right click on it and move it to the right column ('enabled Items')
>>> in what ever position you would like it to be displayed.
>>>
>>> In the meantime - enjoy whatever is left of the "Polar Vortex". (:<
>>>
>>
>> Note corrected line above... I must start proofreading before
>> posting.
>>
> Hi again.
> 
> I had a HDD crash so I had to redo my Windows OS, setups, etc. from 
> scratch. I noticed Prefbar asks for a value in Prefstring's form. What 
> do I enter? I tried value, but the button didn't work.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

Here are the old threads that tell you how to do this:

Turn Off HTML5?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/aBIAoMhjNTs>
Are there any good ondemand HTML5 video blockers?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.firefox/2cfWcfzwTmY>
What is a good HTML5 video blocker?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.firefox/FH-ZAb3cpxU>

And I have an additional 'AutoPlay' button:
"prefbar:button:autoplay": {
"type": "check",
"label": "AutoPlay",
"prefstring": "media.autoplay.enabled",
"topref": "value",
"frompref": "value"

and 'H.24' button:
"prefbar:button:gstreamer": {
"type": "check",
"label": "H.264",
"prefstring": "media.gstreamer.enabled",
"topref": "value",
"frompref": "value"

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 9:18 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:




Likewise.  PAT still working fine with Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.


Awesome, Ed. I am glad you still have the installer for me to reinstall 
again. :D

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

On 10/23/2016 4:51 AM, G. Ross wrote:

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.


What is RTM? URL?
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

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On 10/23/16 11:42 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On
  10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:
  
  I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have
its installer anymore and it

leaks memory. :(


Thank you in advance. :)

  
  
  Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.
  
  
  
  
  
  Tagzilla is another:
  
  
  
  
  

Likewise.  PAT still working fine with
  Windows 10, and SeaMonkey.

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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ed Mullen]

On 10/23/2016 at 3:21 AM, Ant's prodigious digits fired off:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


Been using PAT for years.  Never seen any memory leakage.



Tagzilla is another:



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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/23/2016 7:53 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 10/22/2016 11:48 PM, Ant wrote:
>> On 1/8/2014 10:44 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>>> On 1/8/2014 11:40 AM W3BNR submitted the following:
 On 1/8/2014 11:04 AM Ant submitted the following:
> On 1/8/2014 6:49 AM PT, Ed typed:
>
>>> I don't want to use FlashBlock extension again since I dumped it because
>>> both the latest SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers have plug-in blockers
>>> for Flash, Silverlight, etc.
>>
>> If you don't want to see it, in about:config set
>> media.webm.enabled to 'false'.
>
> Thanks. It would be easier to have a button. :)

 I seen you're running SM2.23.  If you have 'PrefBar' installed you can
 easily create a button of its menu.  Insturctions:

 1. Right click anywhere on 'PrefBar' and select 'Customize PrefBar'.
 2. Right click anywhere in the 'Available Items' box and select 'New'.
 3. From drop-down menu select 'Checkbox'.
 4. Fill in the 'Checkbox' form as follows:
  a.  Id:WebM
  b.  Label: WebM
  c.  toPrep:value
  d.  fromPrep:  value
  e.  Hotkey:(disabled)
 5. Click on 'Apply.


 New 'Item Name' (WebM) should now appear in the left column.
>>>Right click on it and move it to the right column ('enabled Items')
 in what ever position you would like it to be displayed.

 In the meantime - enjoy whatever is left of the "Polar Vortex". (:<

>>>
>>> Note corrected line above... I must start proofreading before
>>> posting.
>>>
>> Hi again.
>>
>> I had a HDD crash so I had to redo my Windows OS, setups, etc. from 
>> scratch. I noticed Prefbar asks for a value in Prefstring's form. What 
>> do I enter? I tried value, but the button didn't work.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
> 
> I created a PrefBar checkbox with the ID "HTML5 Media Autoplay" and the
> Label "HTML5 Media".  Under Prefstring, it toggles the preference
> variable "media.autoplay.enabled".  Both toPref and fromPref are merely
> "value".  (All of the above without the quotes.)
> 

Oops!  I almost forgot the following.

In file user.js in my profile, I inserted:
user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", false);
//  in case I forget, disables HTML5 media
Do not forget to include the semi-colon (;) at the end of the first
line.  The second line is a comment to remind me why I have this in
user.js.

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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/22/2016 11:48 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 1/8/2014 10:44 AM, W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/8/2014 11:40 AM W3BNR submitted the following:
>>> On 1/8/2014 11:04 AM Ant submitted the following:
 On 1/8/2014 6:49 AM PT, Ed typed:

>> I don't want to use FlashBlock extension again since I dumped it because
>> both the latest SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers have plug-in blockers
>> for Flash, Silverlight, etc.
>
> If you don't want to see it, in about:config set
> media.webm.enabled to 'false'.

 Thanks. It would be easier to have a button. :)
>>>
>>> I seen you're running SM2.23.  If you have 'PrefBar' installed you can
>>> easily create a button of its menu.  Insturctions:
>>>
>>> 1. Right click anywhere on 'PrefBar' and select 'Customize PrefBar'.
>>> 2. Right click anywhere in the 'Available Items' box and select 'New'.
>>> 3. From drop-down menu select 'Checkbox'.
>>> 4. Fill in the 'Checkbox' form as follows:
>>>  a.  Id:WebM
>>>  b.  Label: WebM
>>>  c.  toPrep:value
>>>  d.  fromPrep:  value
>>>  e.  Hotkey:(disabled)
>>> 5. Click on 'Apply.
>>>
>>>
>>> New 'Item Name' (WebM) should now appear in the left column.
>>Right click on it and move it to the right column ('enabled Items')
>>> in what ever position you would like it to be displayed.
>>>
>>> In the meantime - enjoy whatever is left of the "Polar Vortex". (:<
>>>
>>
>> Note corrected line above... I must start proofreading before
>> posting.
>>
> Hi again.
> 
> I had a HDD crash so I had to redo my Windows OS, setups, etc. from 
> scratch. I noticed Prefbar asks for a value in Prefstring's form. What 
> do I enter? I tried value, but the button didn't work.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

I created a PrefBar checkbox with the ID "HTML5 Media Autoplay" and the
Label "HTML5 Media".  Under Prefstring, it toggles the preference
variable "media.autoplay.enabled".  Both toPref and fromPref are merely
"value".  (All of the above without the quotes.)

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include his ex-wives?  How about the students who
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Re: What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[G. Ross]

Ant wrote:

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it
leaks memory. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm still using RTM.  Works for me.

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What's a good signature randomizer for 64-bit Windows 7

[Ant]

I used to use Pick-a-Tag, but I don't have its installer anymore and it 
leaks memory. :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: What is a good HTML5 video blocker?

[Ant]

On 1/8/2014 10:44 AM, W3BNR wrote:

On 1/8/2014 11:40 AM W3BNR submitted the following:

On 1/8/2014 11:04 AM Ant submitted the following:

On 1/8/2014 6:49 AM PT, Ed typed:


I don't want to use FlashBlock extension again since I dumped it because
both the latest SeaMonkey and Firefox web browsers have plug-in blockers
for Flash, Silverlight, etc.


If you don't want to see it, in about:config set
media.webm.enabled to 'false'.


Thanks. It would be easier to have a button. :)


I seen you're running SM2.23.  If you have 'PrefBar' installed you can
easily create a button of its menu.  Insturctions:

1. Right click anywhere on 'PrefBar' and select 'Customize PrefBar'.
2. Right click anywhere in the 'Available Items' box and select 'New'.
3. From drop-down menu select 'Checkbox'.
4. Fill in the 'Checkbox' form as follows:
 a.  Id:WebM
 b.  Label: WebM
 c.  toPrep:value
 d.  fromPrep:  value
 e.  Hotkey:(disabled)
5. Click on 'Apply.


New 'Item Name' (WebM) should now appear in the left column.

   Right click on it and move it to the right column ('enabled Items')

in what ever position you would like it to be displayed.

In the meantime - enjoy whatever is left of the "Polar Vortex". (:<



Note corrected line above... I must start proofreading before
posting.


Hi again.

I had a HDD crash so I had to redo my Windows OS, setups, etc. from 
scratch. I noticed Prefbar asks for a value in Prefstring's form. What 
do I enter? I tried value, but the button didn't work.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Small font displaying poorly on this website, but it looks good in Firefox

[EE]

i...@opensesamedoor.com wrote:

When I look at this website (this is the first time I noticed the problem), the 
small fonts are distorted. The same site looks fine in Firefox.
See this page as an example: https://www.malwarebytes.com/products/

The fonts look fine to me.  I am using Mac SeaMonkey 2.46.  Maybe that 
makes a difference?


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