Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: - Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs across different devices (computers) in a secure way. - Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes, giving you a more personalized browsing experience. - An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and suggestions. - The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies, passwords and form data. - Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash cookies and survive plugin crashes. For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey Council member Nice work! All we need now is a few non-sucky themes and updated add-ons. But overall quite nice. Congratulations to the team and thanks for all the hard work. Hammer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed? If not, will it be fixed soon? The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need to worry about that. If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been fixed, will not be for 2.1. We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the profile anyway. Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile, since they install to profile on first launch. No. I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file. See the bug report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677 and read the comments, especiall starting at #13. While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file. I had expected a new SeaMonkey bug report on this, but none has appeared yet. Re-Read my answer. The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar when the partial fails). If you did install all optional files, then the partial works. I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/10/11 4:27 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: The SeaMonkey project is proud to present SeaMonkey 2.1: The new major release of the all-in-one Internet suite is available for download now! Building on the same Mozilla platform as Firefox 4, it delivers the latest developments in web technologies such as HTML5, hardware acceleration and improved JavaScript speed. SeaMonkey 2.1 is available in 21 languages, for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. Most notably, this release features for the first time: - Sync allows you to share your bookmarks, history, passwords and tabs across different devices (computers) in a secure way. - Personas let you choose from thousands of easy to install themes, giving you a more personalized browsing experience. - An optional search bar gives access to OpenSearch search engines and suggestions. - The new Data Manager unifies management of permissions, cookies, passwords and form data. - Improved handling of plugins, including the ability to delete Flash cookies and survive plugin crashes. For a more complete list of major changes in SeaMonkey 2.1, see the What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 section of the Release Notes, which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2011-06-10 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey Council member In Windows XP, I requested the properties for the SeaMonkey 2.1 executable seamonkey.exe. On the Version tab of the Properties window, I see 3 different version numbers: * At the top of the tab, File version: 2.0.1.4176 * Under Other version information, File version: 2.0.1 I believe this relates to the Gecko installation that we built with, but I'm not 100% certain there. * Under Other version information, Product version: 2.1 This would be our version ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
On 6/10/11 10:14 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed? If not, will it be fixed soon? The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need to worry about that. If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been fixed, will not be for 2.1. We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the profile anyway. Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile, since they install to profile on first launch. No. I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file. See the bug report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677 and read the comments, especiall starting at #13. While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file. I had expected a new SeaMonkey bug report on this, but none has appeared yet. Re-Read my answer. The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar when the partial fails). If you did install all optional files, then the partial works. I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here. What are the optional extensions? I might already have some. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/10/11 10:14 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 6/10/11 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/10/2011 8:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote: Has the Update problem noted in bug #662677 been fixed? If not, will it be fixed soon? The documentation, I am unsure if it is fixed. But you should not need to worry about that. If you mean the Extensions installed on updates... no it has not been fixed, will not be for 2.1. We *may* fix it, but I think the solution will be more of a mark extension [x] disabled if you don't want it rather than don't stuff into application folder, since we now push the extensions to the profile anyway. Which means that if you install 2.1 from scratch, including these extensions, run once, and then uninstall, and re-install without the extensions, you'll then STILL have those extensions in your profile, since they install to profile on first launch. No. I meant the ability to update from a LOCAL .mar file. See the bug report athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662677 and read the comments, especiall starting at #13. While the bug report itself is closed because the Wiki documentation has been updated, the procedures did not work to update SM 2.1RC1 to SM2.1RC2 using the partial .mar file. I had expected a new SeaMonkey bug report on this, but none has appeared yet. Re-Read my answer. The complete.mar works, the partial.mar will give you errors if you don't install certain optional extensions. (in a production version of SeaMonkey that downloads the updates itself, you'll get the complete mar when the partial fails). If you did install all optional files, then the partial works. I won't be changing the way the partial is generated here. What are the optional extensions? I might already have some. In the installer, there is the custom install method. It lets you chose whether or not to install * Venkman (JS Debugger) * Chatzilla * DOMi (Inspector) * DebugQA [pre/alpha/beta builds only] If those extensions are missing from the *app* dir, the partial you are trying to install will fail. But on 2.1 at least, they are installed into the profile *from* the app folder, so you may already have them in your profile, but that won't affect the success/failure of the partial update. As I said, the complete update will succeed. ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 2
SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 2 is now available for free download [1] on the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved [2] in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. SeaMonkey 2.1 RC 2 includes a total of 21 languages, including en-US and brings our backend up to date with the latest Gecko (Firefox) releases. (Two new languages over what was in 2.1 RC 1, namely en-GB and tr) We have a targeted Release Date of June 10, 2011. This release candidate fixes the issue of our default themes being marked incompatible on first launch for some users. It also, unfortunately has 2 known issues, that we feel we can fix for final without requiring an additional RC. * SeaMonkey version reports as 2.1pre instead of 2.1 * Built in (developer) extension Debug QA is shipped erroneously. [1] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1rc2 [2] http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/get-involved ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Stefan Sitter ha scritto: Francesco Presel wrote: I have been using the latest-comm-central builds on SM2.1 rc1 (linux x64; I've also used lightning x64), without any problems. I've noticed, though, that there's no l10n version for lightning miramar for linux x64 (whereas, there is an English version for linux x64, and there are localized versions for all other OSs), which I find quite annoying, because it's not nice to have the mail and newsgroups window half in Italian and half in English. Is there a particular reason for that? Is there a way to get a localized linux64 version? I filed Bug 659992. Lets see if you get an answer :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659992 /Stefan The bug appears to have been solved: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar-l10n/ has now a linux64 folder. It appears to be working now on SM 2.1RC1. BTW, is my UA correct (I've read somewhere that there were problems with the seamonkey UA and lightning)? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 Lightning/1.0b4pre -- Francesco ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Francesco Presel wrote: BTW, is my UA correct (I've read somewhere that there were problems with the seamonkey UA and lightning)? Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 Lightning/1.0b4pre Yes, this was fixed with the 2011-06-04 Lightning nightly build. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid writes: #659731 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 I'm sure that preference change one was in the release notes. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 6/1/11 10:06 AM, James Cloos wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid writes: #659731 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 I'm sure that preference change one was in the release notes. -JimC While the fact that zooming is remembered on a site-specific basis is indeed mentioned in the Release Notes, there is no mention that this is controlled by a specific preference variable. I find that this new feature is exceptionally annoying and have set the preference variable in user.js to disable it. I often go to Web sites where some (but not all) pages have text too large or too small. I view the site in tabs. If I zoom larger a tab with text that is too small, this new feature reverses the zooming smaller of a tab for the same domain with text that is too large. There should have been a checkbox at [Edit Preferences Appearance Content] to control this feature. The default should have been to disable the feature. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 5/29/2011 10:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote: The major bug reports: #658936 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 Fwiw, our handling here is all toolkit, but I don't know enough to delve deeply on this #659731 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 As you cite in that bug, it could be a Core issue, but I would be interested if you (or anyone) can come up with more reliable proof of concepts and/or triage of that one. I somehow suspect we are saving this internally on a per-site basis since our change to newer Gecko. But I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know why the pref is not carried forward in future sessions. [I don't typically zoom webpages, unless its temporary anyway]. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 5/30/11 7:26 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 5/29/2011 10:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote: The major bug reports: #658936 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 Fwiw, our handling here is all toolkit, but I don't know enough to delve deeply on this I updated #658936 to Toolkit/Password Manager. #659731 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 As you cite in that bug, it could be a Core issue, but I would be interested if you (or anyone) can come up with more reliable proof of concepts and/or triage of that one. I somehow suspect we are saving this internally on a per-site basis since our change to newer Gecko. But I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know why the pref is not carried forward in future sessions. [I don't typically zoom webpages, unless its temporary anyway]. Several things about zooming, not all merely affecting tabs -- 1. I can reliably recreate the problem with zooming a parent tab affecting its first child and vice versa. 2. I would expect that, when I close a tab, all zooming within that tab would be forgotten. This is not happening. 3. I would expect that, when I zoom a page and it is the ONLY tab, that the zooming would remain in effect until I either cancel the zooming or terminate SeaMonkey. Instead, zooming seems to follow the domain of the page to which it originally applied. If I select a link from a zoomed page to a Web page at another domain, zooming is not applied. If I then go to another page at the same domain as the originally zoomed page, zooming is again applied. Without keeping track of what domain I am about to visit, this is extremely annoying. (Actually, it is very annoying even if I keep track of the domains.) 4. I would expect that, when I terminate SeaMonkey (all instances), all zooming would be forgotten. This is not happening. Zooming is remembered (as in #3 above), for the domain in which it was applied during a previous session. In SeaMonkey 2.0.14, zooming applied in only one tab. It remained in effect for all pages viewed in that tab until cancelled. It also remained in effect until the tab was closed or the browser was terminated, after which zooming was forgotten. It appears that the zooming is applied to a domain and is remembered for that domain. This would explain the transfer of zooming from a parent tab to a child tab. I only tested with pages all from the same domain when I wrote the bug report. I am closing bug #658936 and submitting a new bug that better describes the problem and presents a less complicated test case. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
David E. Ross wrote: On 5/30/11 7:26 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 5/29/2011 10:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote: The major bug reports: #658936 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 Fwiw, our handling here is all toolkit, but I don't know enough to delve deeply on this I updated #658936 to Toolkit/Password Manager. #659731 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 As you cite in that bug, it could be a Core issue, but I would be interested if you (or anyone) can come up with more reliable proof of concepts and/or triage of that one. I somehow suspect we are saving this internally on a per-site basis since our change to newer Gecko. But I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know why the pref is not carried forward in future sessions. [I don't typically zoom webpages, unless its temporary anyway]. Several things about zooming, not all merely affecting tabs -- 1. I can reliably recreate the problem with zooming a parent tab affecting its first child and vice versa. 2. I would expect that, when I close a tab, all zooming within that tab would be forgotten. This is not happening. 3. I would expect that, when I zoom a page and it is the ONLY tab, that the zooming would remain in effect until I either cancel the zooming or terminate SeaMonkey. Instead, zooming seems to follow the domain of the page to which it originally applied. If I select a link from a zoomed page to a Web page at another domain, zooming is not applied. If I then go to another page at the same domain as the originally zoomed page, zooming is again applied. Without keeping track of what domain I am about to visit, this is extremely annoying. (Actually, it is very annoying even if I keep track of the domains.) 4. I would expect that, when I terminate SeaMonkey (all instances), all zooming would be forgotten. This is not happening. Zooming is remembered (as in #3 above), for the domain in which it was applied during a previous session. In SeaMonkey 2.0.14, zooming applied in only one tab. It remained in effect for all pages viewed in that tab until cancelled. It also remained in effect until the tab was closed or the browser was terminated, after which zooming was forgotten. It appears that the zooming is applied to a domain and is remembered for that domain. This would explain the transfer of zooming from a parent tab to a child tab. I only tested with pages all from the same domain when I wrote the bug report. I am closing bug #658936 and submitting a new bug that better describes the problem and presents a less complicated test case. You not using an extension called NoSquint? In NoSquint you adjust zoom level of everything, and also fonts separately. once you set it. remembers setting for each website that are tweaked differently otherwise yo set in General. Usually the in General setting are enough. I couldn't read anything on websites without the aid of NoSquint. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 5/30/11 8:34 PM, PhillipJones wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/30/11 7:26 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 5/29/2011 10:59 PM, David E. Ross wrote: The major bug reports: #658936 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 Fwiw, our handling here is all toolkit, but I don't know enough to delve deeply on this I updated #658936 to Toolkit/Password Manager. #659731 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 As you cite in that bug, it could be a Core issue, but I would be interested if you (or anyone) can come up with more reliable proof of concepts and/or triage of that one. I somehow suspect we are saving this internally on a per-site basis since our change to newer Gecko. But I'm not sure, and I wouldn't know why the pref is not carried forward in future sessions. [I don't typically zoom webpages, unless its temporary anyway]. Several things about zooming, not all merely affecting tabs -- 1. I can reliably recreate the problem with zooming a parent tab affecting its first child and vice versa. 2. I would expect that, when I close a tab, all zooming within that tab would be forgotten. This is not happening. 3. I would expect that, when I zoom a page and it is the ONLY tab, that the zooming would remain in effect until I either cancel the zooming or terminate SeaMonkey. Instead, zooming seems to follow the domain of the page to which it originally applied. If I select a link from a zoomed page to a Web page at another domain, zooming is not applied. If I then go to another page at the same domain as the originally zoomed page, zooming is again applied. Without keeping track of what domain I am about to visit, this is extremely annoying. (Actually, it is very annoying even if I keep track of the domains.) 4. I would expect that, when I terminate SeaMonkey (all instances), all zooming would be forgotten. This is not happening. Zooming is remembered (as in #3 above), for the domain in which it was applied during a previous session. In SeaMonkey 2.0.14, zooming applied in only one tab. It remained in effect for all pages viewed in that tab until cancelled. It also remained in effect until the tab was closed or the browser was terminated, after which zooming was forgotten. It appears that the zooming is applied to a domain and is remembered for that domain. This would explain the transfer of zooming from a parent tab to a child tab. I only tested with pages all from the same domain when I wrote the bug report. I am closing bug #658936 and submitting a new bug that better describes the problem and presents a less complicated test case. You not using an extension called NoSquint? In NoSquint you adjust zoom level of everything, and also fonts separately. once you set it. remembers setting for each website that are tweaked differently otherwise yo set in General. Usually the in General setting are enough. I couldn't read anything on websites without the aid of NoSquint. No, I'm not using NoSquint. I use PrefBar and its basic Font- and Font+ buttons (with the space between the word Font and the signs removed). I also installed the Font= button, which unzooms when I forget how many times I have selected Font+ or Font-. However, I have replicated the problem just by going to the menu bar and selecting [View Text Zoom etc]. I have also replicated the problem in Safe Mode. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Zooming Problem Resolved [was Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC]
On 5/30/11 8:53 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/30/11 8:10 PM, I previously wrote in part: It appears that the zooming is applied to a domain and is remembered for that domain. This would explain the transfer of zooming from a parent tab to a child tab. I only tested with pages all from the same domain when I wrote the bug report. I am closing bug #658936 and submitting a new bug that better describes the problem and presents a less complicated test case. I have closed bug #659731 and submitted bug #660735. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660735. The problem cited in bug #659731 was caused when the default value of hidden preference browser.zoom.siteSpecific changed from false to true with SeaMonkey 2.1. I have closed the bug report. How many other problems that I am seeing are caused by changed default values of preference variables? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. I just installed the latest nightly and the results are the same. Also created a test profile without Lightning and Yahoo! Mail Beta worked. Installed Lightning 1.0b4pre and Yahoo! Mail Beta was disabled again. Just to be sure I even downloaded and re-installed SM 2.1 RC1. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
WLS wrote: Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. Already reported by Stéphane Grégoire in this very same thread and filed as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 Possible workaround: go to about:config and set the preference calendar.useragent.extra to an empty string. /Stefan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Stefan Sitter wrote: WLS wrote: Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. Already reported by Stéphane Grégoire in this very same thread and filed as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 Possible workaround: go to about:config and set the preference calendar.useragent.extra to an empty string. /Stefan That works. Apologies for not reading his complete post. I saw RSS and stopped reading. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
I have just downloaded SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. It is fantastic! Very stable (so far). Very easy to set up. I simply clicked on the SeaMonkey icon and the program checked all my add-ons for compatibility. Then it froze (although no biggie). After a reboot I relaunched SeaMonkey and all my previous settings were there (bookmarks, emails, passwords, cookies). The main improvement in SeaMonkey is speed. It is very noticeably faster than 2.0. BTW I am using an iMac (late 2006 24) running OS X 10.6.7 with 2 GB memory. Try the 2.1 version of SeaMonkey. Even though it is still a RC (release candidate) it is very stable on my Mac. Many thanks to all the SeaMonkey and Mozilla developers for the good work with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. What are other users experiences with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 and in Windows: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 I'm not familiar with using RSS within Lightning; search seems to indicate that it's an add-on? http://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla+%2Blightning+%2BrssbtnG=Search ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On Sun, 29 May 2011 18:42:48 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer so wouldn't have filed that bug if it wasn't relevant. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 5/29/11 6:35 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: I have just downloaded SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. It is fantastic! Very stable (so far). Very easy to set up. I simply clicked on the SeaMonkey icon and the program checked all my add-ons for compatibility. Then it froze (although no biggie). After a reboot I relaunched SeaMonkey and all my previous settings were there (bookmarks, emails, passwords, cookies). The main improvement in SeaMonkey is speed. It is very noticeably faster than 2.0. BTW I am using an iMac (late 2006 24) running OS X 10.6.7 with 2 GB memory. Try the 2.1 version of SeaMonkey. Even though it is still a RC (release candidate) it is very stable on my Mac. Many thanks to all the SeaMonkey and Mozilla developers for the good work with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. What are other users experiences with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC? Since I installed SM 2.1RC1 on 13 May, I have submitted 13 bug reports. Only 8 are actually against SeaMonkey itself. The others are against Core and Toolkit, but I noticed them only because I had installed SM 2.1RC1. I categorized only two of the actual SeaMonkey bug reports as major, there being no possible workaround. One is normal, two are minor, one is trivial, and one is an RFE (request for enhancement. Overall, I would consider SM 2.1RC1 to be good but not great. The major bug reports: #658936 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 #659731 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[RSS] Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/29/2011 07:17 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 18:42:48 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer so wouldn't have filed that bug if it wasn't relevant. Phil I realise that Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer. However the bug issue still doesn't make sense to me regarding rss (or at all for that matter). The bug subject is: Lightning completely replaces the Thunderbird/SeaMonkey user agent in the protocol headers. Further, his bug report states: Now the headers only contain Lightning/1.0b4pre I'm stating that with Lightning 1.0b4 I show no 'Lightning/whatever' at all in the UA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 26/05/11 11:30, Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. ...or via the Events and Tasks menu which it adds on the menubar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) Best regards, Tony. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 99. The hum of a cooling fan and the click of keys is comforting to you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee wrote: Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ I'm using Seamonkey 2.1rc1 Linux 64Bit and installed your Lightning build. The export of a calendar does not work. The file is created but there's no data written to it (zero bytes). Ciao, Michael. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/27/2011 01:05 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: Philip Chee wrote: Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ I'm using Seamonkey 2.1rc1 Linux 64Bit and installed your Lightning build. The export of a calendar does not work. The file is created but there's no data written to it (zero bytes). Ciao, Michael. Works for me: BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Mozilla.org/NONSGML Mozilla Calendar V1.1//EN VERSION:2.0 BEGIN:VEVENT CREATED:20101214T002658Z LAST-MODIFIED:20101214T002731Z DTSTAMP:20101214T002731Z Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 and Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
El 26/05/11 11:30, Philip Chee escribió: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ I'm not an intensive user of Lightning, but I've been working with it since I migrated to SM 2.1 (as of SM2.1b3, IIRC) and I only noticed some minor aesthetic issues, which are gone since Lightning 1.0b4pre. Ricardo ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee schrieb: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 ... Hi, I tried Lightning 1.0b4pre with a German Version of Seamonkey 2.1 RC1: - The Settings in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed (jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul can't be found) - Activating/Deactivating Calendars in the left Pane inside the Calendar-Window doesn't work or somehow needs the same setting set by right-clicking on the calendar and activating/deactivating calendars in the Properties-Page. Is there already a german version ? Will there be keyboard-shortcuts for accessing the calendar-tab from within the mail-window or from the main menu ? (ctrl+shift+C/D didn't work here with Lightning 1.0b2 and SM 2.0.x) ? Best regards, Gerd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee ha scritto: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) I have been using the latest-comm-central builds on SM2.1 rc1 (linux x64; I've also used lightning x64), without any problems. I've noticed, though, that there's no l10n version for lightning miramar for linux x64 (whereas, there is an English version for linux x64, and there are localized versions for all other OSs), which I find quite annoying, because it's not nice to have the mail and newsgroups window half in Italian and half in English. Is there a particular reason for that? Is there a way to get a localized linux64 version? TIA -- Francesco ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
seam...@taz.de wrote: - The Settings in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed (jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul can't be found) Known. It is still in discussion if the workaround from SeaMonkey 2.0 will be ported to SeaMonkey 2.1 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636104 - Activating/Deactivating Calendars in the left Pane inside the Calendar-Window doesn't work or somehow needs the same setting set by right-clicking on the calendar and activating/deactivating calendars in the Properties-Page. This are actually different functions. The checkbox next to the calendar name in the left pane toggles only the calendar display. If unchecked the calendar will still be loaded, you will get reminders for the events in the calendar but you won't see the events in the calendar or task view. The checkbox in the properties dialog can be used to completely switch off the calendar. The calendar will not be loaded and therefore you will not see reminders or events. Is there already a german version ? Localized test builds can be downloaded from https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar-l10n/ Please note that if the localization is not up-to-date the test builds might not work at all and break in many ways. I think the page https://l10n-stage-sj.mozilla.org/dashboard/?tree=calendar10x shows the localization status for Lightning 1.0b4pre. Will there be keyboard-shortcuts for accessing the calendar-tab from within the mail-window or from the main menu ? (ctrl+shift+C/D didn't work here with Lightning 1.0b2 and SM 2.0.x) ? Known. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514512 /Stefan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Francesco Presel wrote: I have been using the latest-comm-central builds on SM2.1 rc1 (linux x64; I've also used lightning x64), without any problems. I've noticed, though, that there's no l10n version for lightning miramar for linux x64 (whereas, there is an English version for linux x64, and there are localized versions for all other OSs), which I find quite annoying, because it's not nice to have the mail and newsgroups window half in Italian and half in English. Is there a particular reason for that? Is there a way to get a localized linux64 version? I filed Bug 659992. Lets see if you get an answer :) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659992 /Stefan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:55:34 +0200, seam...@taz.de wrote: I tried Lightning 1.0b4pre with a German Version of Seamonkey 2.1 RC1: - The Settings in the about:addons - Window can't be accessed (jar:file:///C:/Programme/SeaMonkey/omni.jar!/chrome/messenger/content/messenger/preferences/preferences.xul can't be found) You should be able to access the Lightning preferences via the SeaMonkey Preference window. Edit-Preferences Then click on the Lightning branch of the preference tree to expand that branch. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/26/2011 02:30 AM, Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. ... I've been running 1.0b4pre since it was available on SeaMonkey 2.1 linux (32 64 bit) for some time now w/o any issues. Also tested on Win7 WinXP - again no issues. 1.0b4pre also picked up my previous calendars w/o issues. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) There is a long standing bug with Lighning - some RSS feeds stopping to work for me. Disabling Lightning helps. Anyone have similar behavior ? Misak ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
NoOp schrieb: $ memstat -w | grep seamonkey I think there's a number of blog posts out there that accurately tell how inaccurate measures like this really are when it comes to what actual memory is being used. All OSes only give you measures of either virtual memory or some random guesses, all which don't really map to actual memory usage, because doing that it almost impossible, given that some files from disk are mapped into memory and memory for code can be and are shared across applications and processes. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 05/25/2011 05:15 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: $ memstat -w | grep seamonkey I think there's a number of blog posts out there that accurately tell how inaccurate measures like this really are when it comes to what actual memory is being used. All OSes only give you measures of either virtual memory or some random guesses, all which don't really map to actual memory usage, because doing that it almost impossible, given that some files from disk are mapped into memory and memory for code can be and are shared across applications and processes. Robert Kaiser Understand. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man1/memstat.1.html quote DESCRIPTION memstat lists all accessible processes, executables, and shared libraries that are using up virtual memory. To get a complete list memstat has to be run as root to be able to access the data of all running processes. First, the processes are listed. An amount of memory is shown along with a process ID and the name of the executable which the process is running. The amount of memory shown does not include shared memory: it only includes memory which is private to that process. So, if a process is using a shared library like libc, the memory used to hold that library is not included. The memory used to hold the executable’s text-segment is also not included, since that too is shareable. After the processes, the shared objects are listed. The amount of memory is shown along with the filename of the shared object, followed by a list of the processes using the shared object. The memory is listed as the total amount of memory allocated to this object throughout the whole namespace. In brackets also the amount that is really shared is listed. Finally, a grand total is shown. Note that this program shows the amount of virtual (not real) memory used by the various items. /quote I'd be interested in reading one of those blogs relating to memstat if you have a link. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
NoOp schrieb: memstat lists all accessible processes, executables, and shared libraries that are using up virtual memory. The important hing to note here is the last two words: virtual memory. Processes reserve virtual memory for the chance that they might want to address that amount of memory at some time while they're running, but they usually don't use all of that virtual memory actively at any time. I'd be interested in reading one of those blogs relating to memstat if you have a link. I don't think any I read talk specifically about memstat, but I've seen them talk about virtual memory usage compared to other measures. Unfortunately, I right now don't find the posts that talked about the overall picture of this, I only find ones about details on memory profiling and trying to reduce memory usage. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 24/05/2011 13:36, Ant wrote: On 5/23/2011 4:44 PM PT, NoOp typed: Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and later. Correct. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/ What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by different parts of SeaMonkey. Now if we can figure out why memstat about:memory have such considerable differences I'd be happier. :-) I wonder if Windows and Mac OS X ports have different results too. If so, then is there a bug report about this? ;) Perhaps it's already fixed in Firefox 6.0a/SeaMonkey 2.future? See: http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/05/23/a-better-aboutmemory-stage-1-75/ Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 05/24/2011 02:33 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
On 24/05/2011 13:36, Ant wrote:
On 5/23/2011 4:44 PM PT, NoOp typed:
Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14
As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and
later.
Correct.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1
Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by
different parts of SeaMonkey.
Now if we can figure out why memstat about:memory have such
considerable differences I'd be happier. :-)
I wonder if Windows and Mac OS X ports have different results too. If
so, then is there a bug report about this? ;)
Perhaps it's already fixed in Firefox 6.0a/SeaMonkey 2.future?
See:
http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/05/23/a-better-aboutmemory-stage-1-75/
Phil
Thanks for that.
Sorted:
$ memstat -w | grep seamonkey
795784k PID . (/seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin)
48908k PID . (/seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/plugin-container)
25780k( 22868k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxul.so . . . .
6268k( 0k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/omni.jar .
3892k( 0k) /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/XUL.mfasl .
1224k( 0k)
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/startupCache/startupCache.4.little .
868k(836k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnss3.so . . . .
540k( 0k)
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{8A6C82A1-F6C9-481a-AAE7-C96444C9A754}/chrome/prefbar.jar
.
536k(520k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozsqlite3.so . . . .
456k( 0k)
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}.xpi
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352k(300k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssckbi.so .
344k( 0k)
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{59c81df5-4b7a-477b-912d-4e0fdf64e5f2}.xpi
308k(300k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libfreebl3.so . . . .
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/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/sqlitemana...@mrinalkant.blogspot.com.xpi
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/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
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200k(192k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnspr4.so . . . .
200k(184k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldap60.so . . . .
188k(180k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.so . . . .
172k(156k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libssl3.so . . . .
128k(112k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsmime3.so . . . .
124k(116k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssdbm3.so . . . .
116k(100k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libsuite.so .
100k( 0k)
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{3ed8cc52-86fc-4613-9026-c1ef969da4c3}/chrome/mboximport.jar
.
92k( 68k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssutil3.so . . . .
88k( 80k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libnkgnomevfs.so .
88k( 80k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libmozgnome.so .
76k( 72k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libdbusservice.so .
48k( 44k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/plugin-container .
48k( 44k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin .
32k( 32k) /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/cookies.sqlite-shm
.
32k( 32k) /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/places.sqlite-shm .
24k( 16k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libprldap60.so . . . .
20k( 12k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplc4.so . . . .
20k( 12k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxpcom.so . . . .
16k( 8k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldif60.so . . . .
16k( 8k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplds4.so . . . .
12k( 4k) /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozalloc.so . . . .
plugin-container (expected) and libxul.so (not expected) seem to take up
the largest chunks of memory. I say plugin-container is expected as that
is the backup/crash etc., area and is expected to grow/shrink can
actually be limited in about:config.
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SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 05/22/2011 10:07 PM, Ant wrote: Oh, it isn't? It seems excessive to me. :/ Actually, about:memory doesn't jive with memstat. For example about:memory is currently showing on my system as: Memory mapped: 479,199,232 Memory in use: 465,726,340 However memstat shows SeaMonkey using 670232k: $ memstat | grep seamonkey 670232k: PID . (/homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin) 3824k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/XUL.mfasl . 1216k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/startupCach... 32k( 32k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/cookies.sql... 196k(192k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnspr4.so . 16k( 12k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplc4.so . 6268k( 0k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/omni.jar . 8k( 4k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozalloc.so . 164k(156k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libssl3.so . 192k(184k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldap60.so . 528k(520k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozsqlite3.so . 120k(116k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssdbm3.so . 184k(180k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.so . 24324k( 22868k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxul.so . 12k( 8k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldif60.so . 456k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 20k( 16k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libprldap60.so . 88k( 80k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libnkgnomevfs... 116k(100k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libsuite.so . 88k( 80k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libmozgnome.s... 76k( 72k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libdbusservic... 48k( 44k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin . 12k( 8k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplds4.so . 120k(112k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsmime3.so . 852k(836k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnss3.so . 80k( 68k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssutil3.so . 304k(300k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libfreebl3.so . 16k( 12k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxpcom.so . 352k(300k): /homeuserseamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssckbi.so . 240k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 32k( 32k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/places.sqli... 100k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 540k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 228k(192k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 344k( 0k): /homeuser.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/... 670232k is a significant difference from the 'about:memory' report of 479,199,232 (467968k). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On May 23, 8:48 am, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 05/22/2011 10:07 PM, Ant wrote: Oh, it isn't? It seems excessive to me. :/ Actually, about:memory doesn't jive with memstat. For example about:memory is currently showing on my system as: Memory mapped: 479,199,232 Memory in use: 465,726,340 However memstat shows SeaMonkey using 670232k: ... Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 web browser's URL. Does it only work in Linux? Also, I was using Windows' task manager to view memory usage. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
Ant wrote: Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and later. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 05/23/2011 02:57 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Ant wrote: Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and later. HTH Jens Correct. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/ What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by different parts of SeaMonkey. Now if we can figure out why memstat about:memory have such considerable differences I'd be happier. :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 5/23/2011 4:44 PM PT, NoOp typed: Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and later. Correct. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/ What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1 Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by different parts of SeaMonkey. Now if we can figure out why memstat about:memory have such considerable differences I'd be happier. :-) I wonder if Windows and Mac OS X ports have different results too. If so, then is there a bug report about this? ;) -- Above ground I shall be food for kites; below I shall be food for mole-crickets and ants. Why rob one to feed the other? --Juang-zu (4th Century B.C.) /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?
On 5/23/2011 2:57 PM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Ant wrote: Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and later. Oops! I missed the thread title change in Google Group reader. Sorry. -- May 10,000 ants never invade your underwear drawer. --unknown /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 1 Available for testing
Interviewed by CNN on 13/05/2011 00:12, Justin Wood (Callek) told the world: SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 1 is now available for free download [1] on the SeaMonkey website. We encourage testers to get involved [2] in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. SeaMonkey 2.1 RC 1 includes a total of 19 languages, including en-US and brings our backend up to date with the latest Gecko (Firefox) releases. We have a targeted Release Date of May 19, 2011. Since it hit RC stage, I decided to give it a try. Of course, I backed up my profile first... Well, it loaded fine, it seems to be working fine, generally speaking. A number of extensions are deemed incompatible, including a couple that really surprised me for not being already updated -- but quite a lot are working (I guess those would be the ones where the developers tagged maxversion as 2.9.9 instead of 2.0.9. We may still have some fallback from overly-optimistic developers...). Anyway, I expect that most of those extensions will trickle back into the fold over the next few weeks -- at least half officially, the other ones by hacking the maxversion after testing. Not an unexpected scenario overall. What DID surprise me was that a few extensions and themes that SHIPPED WITH 2.1.0 RC1 were also tagged as incompatible. Those were: - Javascript Debugger - Seamonkey Default Theme (that despite the fact that Seamonkey was, in fact, USING the Default theme) - Seamonkey Modern Theme That happened in my original do-it-like-a-regular-luser-would-do-it, install-over-the-old-version attempt. So I figured that was probably because in 2.1 those were moved from the main application folder to the user's profile, or so I understand. Well, perhaps the old files were left there and were causing the problem? Let me try to fix it... So, I uninstalled 2.1.0 RC1, reinstalled 2.0.14, UNINSTALLED 2.0.14 and reinstalled 2.1.0 RC1. This time, I had the following results: - Weirdly enough, Seamonkey 2.1.0 RC1 loaded with the Pinball theme, which is not supposed to be compatible with 2.1.x. - Both the Modern and Default themes were available. I could switch to either one (but after I did it once, Pinball got tagged as incompatible -- as it should be, by the way). - Javascript Debugger was STILL tagged as incompatible. - My bookmarks disappeared. So, I figured that all that back-and-forth uninstall/reinstall hosed parts of my profile, including the bookmarks. Since I have a backup, no big deal, I had just to start over. I uninstalled RC1 AGAIN, but this time I restored my original profile before reinstalling 2.0.14. 2.0.14 worked fine, and all my extensions were back. I took this moment to uninstall the old Firefox Sync extension (which wasn't working right anyway, and would be redundant under 2.1) and switch the theme to Default. Then I uninstalled 2.0.14. I checked the installation folder to make sure that all the files were deleted (well, except for the Plugins folder). They were. Now I installed RC1. And... the problem with incompatible Default and Modern themes IS BACK! I can't understand it! So... I think there's still a few bugs with the installation/upgrading process. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Zuse Z1. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.14 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Release Candidate 1 Available for testing
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SeaMonkey 2.1 en-US String Freeze TONIGHT
As of tonight (April 3rd) at Midnight PDT, SeaMonkey will be locked under string freeze. I was tempted to spin builds tonight for our b3 with l10nMerge, but I decided after skimming the l10n dashboard and seeing the number of strings that landed in our tree this past week (not to mention today), that I will tag/spin builds for beta3 Monday evening, around 9pm PDT or a bit later. Consider this a request to update locales/request further sign off, etc. We are basing SeaMonkey 2.1b3 against Gecko 2.0 (mozilla-2.0) for those of you who wish to build locally to test. After tonight, we expect aproximately a month until 2.1 final, and en-US will remain frozen for SeaMonkey. If there is a strong need for any en-US string changes, those will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, with very strong reasons needed to accept. If we do chose to accept, I'll send along an l10n-note to this newsgroup. The l10n tree we are using is the mozilla-2.0 l10n tree. Though the suite/ specific l10n files should be usable for comm-central-trunk (SeaMonkey 2.2) as well at the moment. Followup-To set to m.d.l10n, if there are any questions feel free to contact me there. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 and Bookmarks
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
On 3/6/2011 9:45 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/6/11 6:38 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
David E. Ross schrieb:
I have two questions about bookmarks under SeaMonkey 2.1.
First, I have set my preferences to display my bookmarks as my home
page. With SeaMonkey 2.0.x and earlier, this was easy. I merely
dragged and dropped the file bookmarks.html from my profile into my
browser window. Then I went to [Edit Preferences] and selected the
Use Current Page button on the Browser pane of the Preferences window.
How can I do this with SeaMonkey 2.1?
chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bm-panel.xul should work as a
home page, I think, and show all your bookmarks.
Second, I have the PrefBar extension installed. I created a custom
button that opens the Bookmark Manager for editing bookmarks. Clicking
that button runs
toBookmarksManager();
How should I change that for SeaMonkey 2.1?
PlacesCommandHook.showBookmarksManager('AllBookmarks');
Robert Kaiser
Thanks. I'm accumulating information on how to have the capabilities in
SM 2.1 that I cherish today in SM 2.0.
I will likely download and install SM 2.1 when it reaches the release
candidate stage or possibly one of the last betas.
2.1b3 will be our last beta, before our release candidate.
Hooray! I have been using 2.1b(x)pre exclusively for quite awhile now.
No problems with what I do with it.
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SeaMonkey 2.1 and Bookmarks
I have two questions about bookmarks under SeaMonkey 2.1. First, I have set my preferences to display my bookmarks as my home page. With SeaMonkey 2.0.x and earlier, this was easy. I merely dragged and dropped the file bookmarks.html from my profile into my browser window. Then I went to [Edit Preferences] and selected the Use Current Page button on the Browser pane of the Preferences window. How can I do this with SeaMonkey 2.1? Second, I have the PrefBar extension installed. I created a custom button that opens the Bookmark Manager for editing bookmarks. Clicking that button runs toBookmarksManager(); How should I change that for SeaMonkey 2.1? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 and Bookmarks
David E. Ross schrieb:
I have two questions about bookmarks under SeaMonkey 2.1.
First, I have set my preferences to display my bookmarks as my home
page. With SeaMonkey 2.0.x and earlier, this was easy. I merely
dragged and dropped the file bookmarks.html from my profile into my
browser window. Then I went to [Edit Preferences] and selected the
Use Current Page button on the Browser pane of the Preferences window.
How can I do this with SeaMonkey 2.1?
chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bm-panel.xul should work as a
home page, I think, and show all your bookmarks.
Second, I have the PrefBar extension installed. I created a custom
button that opens the Bookmark Manager for editing bookmarks. Clicking
that button runs
toBookmarksManager();
How should I change that for SeaMonkey 2.1?
PlacesCommandHook.showBookmarksManager('AllBookmarks');
Robert Kaiser
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 and Bookmarks
On 3/6/11 6:38 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
David E. Ross schrieb:
I have two questions about bookmarks under SeaMonkey 2.1.
First, I have set my preferences to display my bookmarks as my home
page. With SeaMonkey 2.0.x and earlier, this was easy. I merely
dragged and dropped the file bookmarks.html from my profile into my
browser window. Then I went to [Edit Preferences] and selected the
Use Current Page button on the Browser pane of the Preferences window.
How can I do this with SeaMonkey 2.1?
chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bm-panel.xul should work as a
home page, I think, and show all your bookmarks.
Second, I have the PrefBar extension installed. I created a custom
button that opens the Bookmark Manager for editing bookmarks. Clicking
that button runs
toBookmarksManager();
How should I change that for SeaMonkey 2.1?
PlacesCommandHook.showBookmarksManager('AllBookmarks');
Robert Kaiser
Thanks. I'm accumulating information on how to have the capabilities in
SM 2.1 that I cherish today in SM 2.0.
I will likely download and install SM 2.1 when it reaches the release
candidate stage or possibly one of the last betas.
--
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http://www.rossde.com/
On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 and Bookmarks
On 3/6/2011 9:45 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
On 3/6/11 6:38 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
David E. Ross schrieb:
I have two questions about bookmarks under SeaMonkey 2.1.
First, I have set my preferences to display my bookmarks as my home
page. With SeaMonkey 2.0.x and earlier, this was easy. I merely
dragged and dropped the file bookmarks.html from my profile into my
browser window. Then I went to [Edit Preferences] and selected the
Use Current Page button on the Browser pane of the Preferences window.
How can I do this with SeaMonkey 2.1?
chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bm-panel.xul should work as a
home page, I think, and show all your bookmarks.
Second, I have the PrefBar extension installed. I created a custom
button that opens the Bookmark Manager for editing bookmarks. Clicking
that button runs
toBookmarksManager();
How should I change that for SeaMonkey 2.1?
PlacesCommandHook.showBookmarksManager('AllBookmarks');
Robert Kaiser
Thanks. I'm accumulating information on how to have the capabilities in
SM 2.1 that I cherish today in SM 2.0.
I will likely download and install SM 2.1 when it reaches the release
candidate stage or possibly one of the last betas.
2.1b3 will be our last beta, before our release candidate.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.1 and Seamonkey 2.0
Hi, Le 18/02/2011 13:35, Robert Kaiser a écrit: If it already happened, you should be able to get back your bookmarks at least by going into the bookmarks manager and restore older bookmarks from the Tools menu. Or you can try renaming the places.sqlite-corrupt (or similar) file back to places.sqlite, that could work as well. It works. I have Seamonkey 2.0.11 on another PC so I can use this profile. -- Stéphane ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.1 and Seamonkey 2.0
Hi, I'm using Seamonkey 2.1 nightly builds but sometimes by mistake I launch Seamonkey 2.0 and then in Seamonkey 2.1 I have not history and no bookmarks. How fixing it? Seamonkey 2.1b3pre mail window look very pretty! -- Sorry for my bad english, the british dictionnary is disabled by nightly build and I don't speak english fluently. Stéphane http://pasdenom.info ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 and Seamonkey 2.0
Stéphane Grégoire schrieb: I'm using Seamonkey 2.1 nightly builds but sometimes by mistake I launch Seamonkey 2.0 and then in Seamonkey 2.1 I have not history and no bookmarks. How fixing it? Make a backup of your profile (which you should always do anyhow), and esp. your places.sqlite. SeaMonkey 2.1 (the Mozilla 2.0 platform) uses a format of that file that is not understood by SeaMonkey 2.0 (the Mozilla 1.9.1 platform). If it already happened, you should be able to get back your bookmarks at least by going into the bookmarks manager and restore older bookmarks from the Tools menu. Or you can try renaming the places.sqlite-corrupt (or similar) file back to places.sqlite, that could work as well. Seamonkey 2.1b3pre mail window look very pretty! The team has put a lot of work into this new SeaMonkey version. :) Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 2 Introduces New Features
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: ... Release notes, including Known Issues section: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1b Evidently you meant to link: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1b2/ -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features
[re-sending as this didn't make it yesterday] SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing audience for the first time. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features the following new improvements: - OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web search. - Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. - Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the browser any more if they crash. - JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine. - Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7 users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms with known-to-work video drivers. - The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are available. We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-10-21 Downloads for all available platforms: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1b1 Release notes, including Known Issues section: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1b1 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features
Are any of the new features Google-dependent? May everything associated with Google be stripped from SM 2.1 without ill-effect? SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing audience for the first time. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features the following new improvements: - OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web search. - Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. - Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the browser any more if they crash. - JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine. - Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7 users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms with known-to-work video drivers. - The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are available. We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator -- Thanks! 73, doc, KD4E http://KD4E.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day Defend free speech or lose your freedom. I don't google I SEARCH! http://ixquick.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features
On 21.10.2010 10:36, d...@kd4e.com wrote: --- Original Message --- Are any of the new features Google-dependent? May everything associated with Google be stripped from SM 2.1 without ill-effect? SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download now in 8 languages and makes a huge list of new functionality available to a wider testing audience for the first time. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for testers only and might still show some problems in everyday use. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. In addition to the changes in the alpha releases, this version features the following new improvements: - OpenSearch plugins are now supported and the default for web search. - Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. - Plugins now run in their own processes and don't take down the browser any more if they crash. - JavaScript is faster than ever with the new JägerMonkey engine. - Direct2D Hardware Acceleration is now on by default for Windows 7 users, hardware accelerated layers are available on all platforms with known-to-work video drivers. - The HSTS security protocol and the proposed Audio Data API are available. We welcome any and all discussions on this beta on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Please bottom post, thanks. Nothing in SM that I see that is Google-Dependent What is it that you want to strip regarding Google? -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 Introduces New Features
d...@kd4e.com schrieb: Are any of the new features Google-dependent? No, even though as with the previous search plugin solution, we have the Google search plugin set as the default, but you can easily set a different one in the preferences, just like before - just that the selection of other search providers you can install is now much larger as we support the same OpenSearch standard as other browsers. May everything associated with Google be stripped from SM 2.1 without ill-effect? Just like with previous versions and just like with Firefox, you can surely do this. Mozilla would never make any of its products dependent on a single provide in a way that the user can't change it. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Please help testing SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 candidates!
[Mostly resending with slight corrections to cover support and L10n groups as well with this message - this is a localized beta after all] Hi, The SeaMonkey team is getting closer to the next major release - and SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 1 has the vast majority of the expected big changes done already, with JaegerMonkey and all the web-facing Firefox 4 features being at the edge of current development, as well as things like Data Manager and OpenSearch support on the UI side of things. The list of major changes/features is up at https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:Features:2.1 - and that page might not even be fully complete (it's a wiki, help supplementing it if you know items to add). This is still new stuff and not a final release, so expect that many add-ons don't work correctly (some do, though), and don't trust it with any non-backed-up data (note that it will re-use your 2.0.x profiles). Please report any bugs at bugzilla.mozilla.org, finding them and being able to solve them is what alpha testing is for, after all. The candidate builds are up right now in the linux-i686, mac, and win32 subdirectories of http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/2.1b1-candidates/build2/ - updates for 2.1 Alphas are available on the betatest channel. All those builds are available in 8 languages including US English this time. Please test those updates intensely, as our automated verification runs showed strange results for complete updates and we're not sure yet what's going on there! As always, the linux-x86_64 build is NOT OFFICIAL and will be listed as contributed build officially. Localizers, please test the builds in your locale and fix any problems/glitches for the second beta, the tentative freeze for that will be around the end of October or start of November. The platform code has seen a long list of changes, but SeaMonkey-specific ones are quite extensively as well, Bugzilla lists 96 fixes in SeaMonkey-specific code done for this version alone: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=FIXEDtarget_milestone=seamonkey2.1b1 Please use the builds for any usage patterns you can think of, possibly also doing a https://litmus.mozilla.org/run_tests.cgi?test_run_id=7 smoketest run on them. I know that this Litmus run isn't perfect, but it's the best we have right now. The only issue we know of is that builds probably don't work reasonably for Mac PPC users, which is why we don't ship any updates any more on any 2.1* builds for this architecture, even though we still compile builds with theoretical support for the moment, but that's mostly for infrastructure reasons, we will likely switch to completely de-support PPC before the final 2.1 release comes around (this is due to Mozilla platform decisions that are out of our specific reach). Thanks for your help! Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 Available
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 marks a third preview milestone on the way to the future of Mozilla's SeaMonkey Internet suite and is now available for free download. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for developers and testers only. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. The new improvements of this developer preview compared to the last one include: - Personas support (see www.getpersonas.com to try this). - A reworked bookmarks system. - By default, tabs are opened instead of new windows. - Address book toolbars can now be customized. - Find in Page now works with a toolbar. - New possibilites for web developers are supported, like CSS Transitions and the W3C Indexed Database API. We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-08-24 Downloads for all available platforms: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a3 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Daniel wrote: However, it appears I've got no Add-On Manager!! And now I see that I have three copies of the Add-On Manager in tabs of the Browser. Yes, in 2.1a2, we have one bug that makes us open multiple copies of it, and another that makes it appear in the background when you have set tabs to open in the background by default. Both those bugs should be fixed in the very-soon-to-come 2.1a3, where it will open only once and in the foreground. Tabs?? Is that a Windows thing? On Linux 2.1a2 pops open a big, complex, easy to understand window which allows me to easily find out that nothing is compatible with SM 2.1a2. ;-) Even my themes are all incompatible, and it's using some strange theme anyway. Well good, hard to run with none. The odd thing is that both the Fedora13 2.0.6 and the one I downloaded from mozilla.org tend to crash at odd times, while the 2.1a2 doesn't have most of the features working yet, but is stable and hasn't fallen over ever for me. Since someone mentioned it, CZ works fine AFAIK. Note: Linux x86_64 version. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Daniel wrote: However, it appears I've got no Add-On Manager!! And now I see that I have three copies of the Add-On Manager in tabs of the Browser. Yes, in 2.1a2, we have one bug that makes us open multiple copies of it, and another that makes it appear in the background when you have set tabs to open in the background by default. Both those bugs should be fixed in the very-soon-to-come 2.1a3, where it will open only once and in the foreground. Robert Kaiser Hey, don't get me wrong, Robert, I probably click the Tools-Add-on Manager several times, expecting it to open up like the Preferences screen. And as for opening in the backgroundleave it, Robert, I like that (now that I aware of it!!). Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Adam Jimerson wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: I just installed SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 and noticed that the icon and Settings option for Chatzilla is gone? Did this get removed from SeaMonkey? If so any reason it was removed? Never mind checking the Add-on page shows that it is installed but disabled because it is incompatible. Maybe SeaMonkey needs a way to test Add-ons like the Add-on Compatibility Reporter for Firefox. Sorry...as I read these posts, I've got Chatzilla looking at the SeaMonkey chat group, no add-ons, just SM 2.1a2 as downloaded!! However, it appears I've got no Add-On Manager!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Daniel wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: I just installed SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 and noticed that the icon and Settings option for Chatzilla is gone? Did this get removed from SeaMonkey? If so any reason it was removed? Never mind checking the Add-on page shows that it is installed but disabled because it is incompatible. Maybe SeaMonkey needs a way to test Add-ons like the Add-on Compatibility Reporter for Firefox. Sorry...as I read these posts, I've got Chatzilla looking at the SeaMonkey chat group, no add-ons, just SM 2.1a2 as downloaded!! However, it appears I've got no Add-On Manager!! Daniel And now I see that I have three copies of the Add-On Manager in tabs of the Browser. Slinks away in shame!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Daniel schrieb: Daniel wrote: However, it appears I've got no Add-On Manager!! And now I see that I have three copies of the Add-On Manager in tabs of the Browser. Yes, in 2.1a2, we have one bug that makes us open multiple copies of it, and another that makes it appear in the background when you have set tabs to open in the background by default. Both those bugs should be fixed in the very-soon-to-come 2.1a3, where it will open only once and in the foreground. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
I just installed SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 and noticed that the icon and Settings option for Chatzilla is gone? Did this get removed from SeaMonkey? If so any reason it was removed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Chatzilla removed from SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha?
Adam Jimerson wrote: I just installed SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 and noticed that the icon and Settings option for Chatzilla is gone? Did this get removed from SeaMonkey? If so any reason it was removed? Never mind checking the Add-on page shows that it is installed but disabled because it is incompatible. Maybe SeaMonkey needs a way to test Add-ons like the Add-on Compatibility Reporter for Firefox. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
NoOp schrieb: What seems to be the primary issue with gecko 1.9.2? Not sure what you mean - other than the arbitrary decision we made in the SeaMonkey team to not release a SeaMonkey version on top of it but concentrate on aligning our releases with those of Firefox better by concentrating on what is now becoming Gecko 2.0 instead. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
Ed Mullen schrieb: If I wanted to try the 2.1 alpha what are the caveats installing it on a system that has the 2.0.6 Release on it? Yes, I've got good backups of my profiles but I'm interested in the best practice for installing (and using) both versions on the same system. What about profile import? 2.1 should just reuse 2.0 profiles, and switching back and forth should be possible in theory. Just make sure you have profile backups before trying it in practice. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ed Mullen schrieb: If I wanted to try the 2.1 alpha what are the caveats installing it on a system that has the 2.0.6 Release on it? Yes, I've got good backups of my profiles but I'm interested in the best practice for installing (and using) both versions on the same system. What about profile import? 2.1 should just reuse 2.0 profiles, and switching back and forth should be possible in theory. Just make sure you have profile backups before trying it in practice. Thanks, Robert. I'll give it a try. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net The best audience is intelligent, well-educated, and a little drunk. - Alben W. Barkley (1877-1956) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
On 08/05/2010 07:44 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: If I wanted to try the 2.1 alpha what are the caveats installing it on a system that has the 2.0.6 Release on it? Yes, I've got good backups of my profiles but I'm interested in the best practice for installing (and using) both versions on the same system. What about profile import? Any help appreciated. If you use calendar (lightning) in 2.0.6, back up your entire 2.0.6 mozilla folder and use a *different* profile for 2.1x. The calendar data is not compatible 2.1x will screw up your 2.0.6 data. Worth reading: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=46t=1248265 Note: I didn't bother editing prefs.js, just renamed storage.sdb and the folder calendar-data and created a new 'Personal' and imported the .ics back in. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
NoOp schrieb: If you use calendar (lightning) in 2.0.6, back up your entire 2.0.6 mozilla folder and use a *different* profile for 2.1x. The calendar data is not compatible 2.1x will screw up your 2.0.6 data. Well, there is no Lighting add-on that works with 2.1 alphas anyhow - unless you build your own. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
On 08/06/2010 05:43 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: If you use calendar (lightning) in 2.0.6, back up your entire 2.0.6 mozilla folder and use a *different* profile for 2.1x. The calendar data is not compatible 2.1x will screw up your 2.0.6 data. Well, there is no Lighting add-on that works with 2.1 alphas anyhow - unless you build your own. Robert Kaiser Yes, sorry you are right: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/ What seems to be the primary issue with gecko 1.9.2? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 alpha
If I wanted to try the 2.1 alpha what are the caveats installing it on a system that has the 2.0.6 Release on it? Yes, I've got good backups of my profiles but I'm interested in the best practice for installing (and using) both versions on the same system. What about profile import? Any help appreciated. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good toasted. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 Released
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2, the second preview milestone on the way to the future of Mozilla's SeaMonkey Internet suite, is now available for free download. Please note that this pre-release version is still intended for developers and testers only. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. The new improvements of this developer preview compared to the last one include: - New add-ons manager. - WebM video support. - Customizable toolbar elements now include Search, Folder Location and Mail Views on the messaging as well as Search and Go on the browser side. - Download Manager supports drag and drop now. - View Source windows are more consistent with each other and the rest of the suite. - The system's default feed reader can now be detected and used where appropriate. We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-07-07 Downloads for all available platforms: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a2 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a2 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
NoOp wrote: On 05/19/2010 03:01 PM, »Q« wrote: In news:mtsdnahgitnuz2nwnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Sorry meant for this to go to the users group: This is a development version not intended for wide use by normal users, that's why I directed followups on the development group. Please be aware that many add-ons may not work w/2.1x. This is a testing-only version, not only is that expected, we are give no guarantees that add-ons or features won't break in unforseen ways. Things only will stabilize once we're in beta, but this is the first alpha. Of course. But the msg was posted on mozilla.support.seamonkey, so my response was to give a heads-up users that might want to test. People who might want to be alpha testers should already be following in the dev group. Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Point being is that posting an hit run annoucement such as SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available in this group then complaining about comments added here is nonsense. There is *nothing* in the OP about only making comments in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey. In fact the OP states: Sorry, the original posting had Followups-To set for the other group, so someone must have deliberately and manually redirected the replies to the wrong group. Or used a dumber than SM newsreader... So it was correctly set up, someone broke it. quote We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. /quote -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
Jay Garcia wrote: On 19.05.2010 20:40, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- On 05/19/2010 06:11 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Robert Kaiser Then post that in your msg to this group. Pretty simple eh? Change: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. to: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup. Please subscribe to that newsgroup to discuss further. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. How difficult is that? BTW: I posted about the issues regarding ChatZilla et al *prior* to posting on this group, yet gained no response from you there. I went to the trouble of installing SM 2.1a1 on your first announcement on 5/11/2010 and posted my findings on mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup - no response from you. However you seem to be quite content to spend time admonishing me for posting comments regarding your OP on *this* newsgroup. You seem to indicate that you want help testing, I've done that quite faithfully on nearly all release/alpha/beta/rc/whatever to the best of my ability, yet you complain if I comment here? Particularly when your msg states We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup. Please subscribe to that newsgroup to discuss further. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs.? Fix your attitude, fix your announcements, or preferably both Robert. Gary Lee You've just been self-appointed as chief announcement writer. Get with Mr Kaiser for the next one. ;-) You know what, the person who got this in the wrong group is NoOp himself. I just clicked reply on Rob's original message, and it goes to the correct group, mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, so it must have been manually redirected back to this group. Let's let the announcements come from the source and ask people not to post replies back in the announcement. We have now spent more time talking about the misdirected reply to the announcement than the topic. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
NoOp schrieb: Then post that in your msg to this group. Pretty simple eh? [...] Fix your attitude, fix your announcements, or preferably both Robert. Let's not split hairs but work together for a better SeaMonkey, OK? -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.1 Private Browsing feature
Does anyone know if Seamonkey 2.1 will be getting the 'private browsing' feature available to Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1 Private Browsing feature
Vtr schrieb: Does anyone know if Seamonkey 2.1 will be getting the 'private browsing' feature available to Firefox, Chrome and Internet Explorer? Only if someone volunteers to work on it. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 05/20/2010 06:19 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Then post that in your msg to this group. Pretty simple eh? [...] Fix your attitude, fix your announcements, or preferably both Robert. Let's not split hairs but work together for a better SeaMonkey, OK? OK. Peace :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 19.05.2010 23:09, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- BTW Jay, have you installed/tested 2.1a? When was the last time you tested pre/alpha/beta/rc releases? Every pre/alpha/beta/rc since Communicator 4.0a1 (the first pre-alpha), which btw was a disaster area, computer rebooted all by itself. The way I see this issue in summary is that if an announcement is made to test ANYthing in a PUBLIC group then it should go without saying anything in more detail. If there are any questions then any user(s) can ask/inquire/whatever. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
I have re-posted this one here because it has a follow-up elsewhere
Robert Kaiser wrote:
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1, a first preview of functionality in work for
SeaMonkey's future is available for free download.
What about going from 1.X to 2.1 - is a migration action at first run of
2.1 ?
What about going from 2.0 to 2.1 - would 2.1 use the same profile as the
2.0 one ? ('migration' not needed)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Sorry meant for this to go to the users group: This is a development version not intended for wide use by normal users, that's why I directed followups on the development group. Please be aware that many add-ons may not work w/2.1x. This is a testing-only version, not only is that expected, we are give no guarantees that add-ons or features won't break in unforseen ways. Things only will stabilize once we're in beta, but this is the first alpha. Of course. But the msg was posted on mozilla.support.seamonkey, so my response was to give a heads-up users that might want to test. ChatZilla needs a new install via: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/16/ Wrong if you're using the internal version, which works fine. If you have a different version installed as an update, just uninstall it and the internal ChatZilla will work nicely. Really? Hmmm ok. I've removed ChatZilla via the add-on manager as you suggest, restarted SeaMonkey; no ChatZilla in Add-On Manager... in fact no ChatZilla at all now. Perhaps you can adivse how to un-hide this internal ChatZilla? Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100510 Lightning/1.1a1pre SeaMonkey/2.1a1 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100510 Lightning/1.1a1pre SeaMonkey/2.1a1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
In news:mtsdnahgitnuz2nwnz2dnuvz_radn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Sorry meant for this to go to the users group: This is a development version not intended for wide use by normal users, that's why I directed followups on the development group. Please be aware that many add-ons may not work w/2.1x. This is a testing-only version, not only is that expected, we are give no guarantees that add-ons or features won't break in unforseen ways. Things only will stabilize once we're in beta, but this is the first alpha. Of course. But the msg was posted on mozilla.support.seamonkey, so my response was to give a heads-up users that might want to test. People who might want to be alpha testers should already be following in the dev group. -- »Q« ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 05/19/2010 08:10 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 5/19/2010 9:40 PM, NoOp wrote: On 05/19/2010 06:11 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Then post that in your msg to this group. Pretty simple eh? He did, with the newsgroup Followup-To header. Sigh... what part of: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups do you not understand? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 19.05.2010 20:11, Robert Kaiser wrote: --- Original Message --- NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Robert Kaiser Sounds right, thanks. But there are those that gripe about anything!! 8-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 19.05.2010 20:40, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- On 05/19/2010 06:11 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Robert Kaiser Then post that in your msg to this group. Pretty simple eh? Change: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. to: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup. Please subscribe to that newsgroup to discuss further. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. How difficult is that? BTW: I posted about the issues regarding ChatZilla et al *prior* to posting on this group, yet gained no response from you there. I went to the trouble of installing SM 2.1a1 on your first announcement on 5/11/2010 and posted my findings on mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup - no response from you. However you seem to be quite content to spend time admonishing me for posting comments regarding your OP on *this* newsgroup. You seem to indicate that you want help testing, I've done that quite faithfully on nearly all release/alpha/beta/rc/whatever to the best of my ability, yet you complain if I comment here? Particularly when your msg states We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup. Please subscribe to that newsgroup to discuss further. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs.? Fix your attitude, fix your announcements, or preferably both Robert. Gary Lee You've just been self-appointed as chief announcement writer. Get with Mr Kaiser for the next one. ;-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Flock - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
In news:gkidnsmd3qhs42nwnz2dnuvz_qydn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 05/19/2010 03:01 PM, »Q« wrote: People who might want to be alpha testers should already be following in the dev group. Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? So that people would know there's alpha testing to be done and know where discussion is taking place in case they're considering participating. Point being is that posting an hit run annoucement such as SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available in this group then complaining about comments added here is nonsense. He said, This is a development version not intended for wide use by normal users, that's why I directed followups on the development group. IMO, that's pretty far from complaining -- it's simply filling you in on info you hadn't picked up on. (And other people also needed the info; you're not the only one who overrode the followup that was set.) There is *nothing* in the OP about only making comments in mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey. In the OP, followups were set to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, as he's already pointed out. But IMO it should also be mentioned in the body of the OP announcement. This branch of the thread doesn't have any SeaMonkey support content, so I'm setting followup to 'poster'. This means most software will automagically send replies to my e-mail address. If you need to override that for some reason, please use mozilla.general -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign\ / against html e-mail X http://www.asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 05/19/2010 08:47 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 19.05.2010 20:11, Robert Kaiser wrote: --- Original Message --- NoOp schrieb: Then why post an announcement in mozilla.support.seamonkey at all? Because we want users to be aware that we're working on new things, and we also want to gain new testers - but we want them to discuss their findings from testing in the dev group once they join the testing effort. Robert Kaiser Sounds right, thanks. But there are those that gripe about anything!! 8-) Gripe? You consider posting, what I considered helpful heads-up notes about 2.a1x here griping? My gripe was when kairo admonished me for posting about 2.1a1 in *this* newsgroup when his announcement specifically stated: We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups Pay attention here. The above states newsgroups - that's plural and implies any mozilla newsgroups. Afterall, he also posted the same on other mozilla newsgroups as well. BTW Jay, have you installed/tested 2.1a? When was the last time you tested pre/alpha/beta/rc releases? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1, a first preview of functionality in work for SeaMonkey's future is available for free download. Please note that this pre-release version is intended for developers and testers only. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. This developer preview introduces many improvements, including: - Better performance on startup and shutdown, as well as for JavaScript. - Full screen HTML5 video. - Resizeable text areas in web forms. - A new Troubleshooting Information page (about:support). - Notification bars for MailNews return receipts (MDN). - Support for SMIL animation, CSS transitions, a new HTML5 parser, new DOM, HTML5 and CSS features as well as downloadable WOFF fonts. - CSS :visited selectors that cannot be read by web sites (privacy improvement). We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-05-18 Downloads for all available platforms: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a1 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a1 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 Available
On 05/18/2010 12:37 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1, a first preview of functionality in work for SeaMonkey's future is available for free download. Please note that this pre-release version is intended for developers and testers only. As always, we appreciate any feedback you may have and encourage users to help us by filing bugs. This developer preview introduces many improvements, including: - Better performance on startup and shutdown, as well as for JavaScript. - Full screen HTML5 video. - Resizeable text areas in web forms. - A new Troubleshooting Information page (about:support). - Notification bars for MailNews return receipts (MDN). - Support for SMIL animation, CSS transitions, a new HTML5 parser, new DOM, HTML5 and CSS features as well as downloadable WOFF fonts. - CSS :visited selectors that cannot be read by web sites (privacy improvement). We welcome any and all discussions on this alpha on our newsgroups, or you can even file a bug if you find one. Be sure to check our Known Issues prior to filing bugs. SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 1 is available for free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. Once you have downloaded and installed this release, we'd like to encourage you to get involved in discussing and reporting problems as well as further improving the product. Thanks for testing and helping us to make SeaMonkey even better! Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-05-18 Downloads for all available platforms: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a1 Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1a1 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.1/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Sorry meant for this to go to the users group: Please be aware that many add-ons may not work w/2.1x. On linux (not tested on Windows): xsidebar requires: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/installation.html#unstable http://downloads.mozdev.org/xsidebar/xsidebar-1.unstable.xpi ChatZilla needs a new install via: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/16/ [thanks Gijs Kruitbosch for fixing] Lightning requires: 1.1a1pre There is of course a side effect; once you've installed the lightning 1.1a1pre you lose the 1.0b1 when you fire SeaMonkey 2.0.5 back up your old calendars do not work. See: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=46t=1248265 for workarounds. I advise backing up *all* of your mozilla profiles, and if possible use a test profile w/2.1. Prefbar works (as always). As does flash and java. Addons that I've found that do not (with the exeptions noted above that require new versions): Adblock Plus (1.2) SQLite Manager (0.5.15) Moonlight (2.99.0.6) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
Benoit Renard wrote: snip There's no need to save the program folder. You can just reinstall SeaMonkey from the installer. I disagree. If you do not, chances are you will lose most of the add-ons you installed. -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
On 11/12/2009 11:29 AM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Thus, in light of what I have read, I am wondering if it would wise for me to wait for a future release of SeaMonkey before upgrading my system...I suppose I am hoping that some changes will be incorporated into a future upgrade, that would make the move go more smoothly. Any comments would be appreciated. You may want to wait for some minor release, e.g. SeaMonkey 2.0.1 or 2.0.2. You should not wait for SeaMonkey 2.1, though, since that one will probably give a worse migration experience (AFAIK the ability to migrate download history will be removed in that version). Is there an ETA for the next version (minor or major)? -- If you're an ant, and you're walking along across the top of a cup of pudding, you probably have no idea that the only thing between you and disaster is the strength of that pudding skin. --Jack Handy from Saturday Night Live /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 1.1.18 vs SeaMonkey 2.1 (if/when 2.1 is released)
Ant wrote: Is there an ETA for the next version (minor or major)? Minor: Next month I'd say (KaiRo is on vacation until the 29th). Major: No ETA whatsoever. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
