question about JS

[Robert Jendrisak]

Hi there.


Seamonkey doesnt support event in javascript. I found it is only browser 
missing this. Do you plan implement it in future?


Many javascript games i tried doesnt work because of this.

https://www.w3schools.com/JSREF/event_clientx.asp

Robert

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 16/09/2020 10:56 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 
13 (today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was 
compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has 
anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the 
speed and responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to 
ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it 
just re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to 
retrieving stored data from the cache."??

Yes. I don't use the cache when browsing.

O.K., so that means that when you go to a web-site, SM *must* get the 
required information anew, so things must be happening faster.


However, I expect 'The Web' is not acting faster just because you are 
using SM 2.53.5b1pre, just your computer device must be displaying 
things a bit quicker  so I'm having troubles thinking there would be 
a really noticeable speed increase ... marginal, Yeah, sure, but greatly 
increased ... don't know!!


But, if it seems so, to you, great!!
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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was 
compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has 
anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the 
speed and responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to 
ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it 
just re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to retrieving 
stored data from the cache."??

Yes. I don't use the cache when browsing.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared 
to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else 
tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just 
re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to retrieving 
stored data from the cache."??

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared 
to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else 
tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using 
the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to 
the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else tried 
any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using 
the Cached data??

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About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to 
the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else tried 
any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 comments about+ Thanks to programmers.

[Ant]

Thanks. What about your addons?


On 1/25/2020 5:41 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

Hi.

I have been using SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 for three or four days.  I am 
using an iMac 27" running Catalina MacOS 10.15.2


So far SeaMonkey has been rock solid stable and 99% of the web pages I 
go to display as expected.  There were a few web pages which failed to 
display properly in 2.49.5 and now display correctly with 2.53.1.b1.


This version IMHO is ready for most users to install and use on a daily 
bases.  I do not miss 2.49.5 at all and everything works.  When I first 
installed 2.53 I was afraid I might find the beta unstable or some web 
pages would not display or function correctly.  That is not the case. 
2.53.1.b1 is an improvement over 2.49.5 and I would recomend all users 
download and install the beta.


ONE CAUTION; Before installing the 2.53 beta make sure you make a back 
up of your user profile.  Once 2.53 is installed and run for the first 
time changes are made to files in your user profile and these changes 
make your profile incompatible with SeaMonkey versions earlier than the 
2.53.1b1 beta.  So if, for any reason, you need to downgrade to 2.49.5 
you will need to have a copy of your 2.49.5 user profile.


THANKS TO THE PROGRAMMERS for all the hard work and hours spent in 
developing SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1.  All your hard work is appreciated very 
much.


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SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 comments about+ Thanks to programmers.

[Paul Bergsagel]

Hi.

I have been using SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1 for three or four days.  I am 
using an iMac 27" running Catalina MacOS 10.15.2


So far SeaMonkey has been rock solid stable and 99% of the web pages I 
go to display as expected.  There were a few web pages which failed to 
display properly in 2.49.5 and now display correctly with 2.53.1.b1.


This version IMHO is ready for most users to install and use on a daily 
bases.  I do not miss 2.49.5 at all and everything works.  When I first 
installed 2.53 I was afraid I might find the beta unstable or some web 
pages would not display or function correctly.  That is not the case. 
2.53.1.b1 is an improvement over 2.49.5 and I would recomend all users 
download and install the beta.


ONE CAUTION; Before installing the 2.53 beta make sure you make a back 
up of your user profile.  Once 2.53 is installed and run for the first 
time changes are made to files in your user profile and these changes 
make your profile incompatible with SeaMonkey versions earlier than the 
2.53.1b1 beta.  So if, for any reason, you need to downgrade to 2.49.5 
you will need to have a copy of your 2.49.5 user profile.


THANKS TO THE PROGRAMMERS for all the hard work and hours spent in 
developing SeaMonkey 2.53.1.b1.  All your hard work is appreciated very 
much.


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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[Mort Linder]

Just returned from a trip.

Thanks to all of you for your helpful suggestions, which I do appreciate.

Best,

Mort Linder

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder

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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[EE]

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the original?

Mort Linder

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The compose window uses monospace font, and the message window uses 
proportional font.  That is why the columns do not line up.  Maybe compose the 
message with an editor that uses proportional font and then copy it to the 
compose window?

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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

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On 7/5/2019 1:37 PM, Mort Linder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
> randomized in transmission and often become illegible.
> 
> How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
> original?
> 
> Mort Linder
> 

If you are formatting your E-mail as HTML, that causes your problem.
There are actually two problems with HTML-formatted E-mails.

One is the fact that not all E-mail applications handle HTML in the same
manner.  Even if your recipient also is viewing the message as HTML, his
or her application might not handle tables the same way, especially if
you are using a font that the recipient does not have.

The other problem -- more likely -- is that the recipient is viewing
E-mail as plain text, which fails to use the formatting you created with
HTML.

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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.

How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the
original?

Mort Linder


I use tabs or periods as column breaks.


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Re: Question about e-mails with columns

[WaltS48]

On 7/5/19 4:37 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder



Do you mean how does the recipient view the mail in the same way you 
sent it?


How are you making the neatly typed vertical columns?

Using Insert > Table... in HTML composition should help.


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Question about e-mails with columns

[Mort Linder]

Hi,

When I send an e-mail with neatly typed vertical columns, they become 
randomized in transmission and often become illegible.


How can I send out an e-mail where the columns look the same as the 
original?


Mort Linder

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[NFN Smith]

EE wrote:


Can the old Adblock Plus still use the subscriptions?  If it still 
works, keep using it, unless you want to switch to uBlock Origin, which 
can block more things.  There is still a legacy version of that which 
works with SeaMonkey and Pale Moon as well.


Yes, it can.

As far as I'm aware, uBlock Origin also allows subscriptions to the same 
lists.


Smith
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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[EE]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Can the old Adblock Plus still use the subscriptions?  If it still 
works, keep using it, unless you want to switch to uBlock Origin, which 
can block more things.  There is still a legacy version of that which 
works with SeaMonkey and Pale Moon as well.

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[GerardJan]

Daniel wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM


talking about confusion, this is *infusion* !


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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[GerardJan]

Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11-09-18 15:33:

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.



Thanks for giving me a hope to stay with SM.


there is always hope

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11-09-18 15:33:

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.



Thanks for giving me a hope to stay with SM.
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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

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On 9/11/2018 5:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:
>> Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
>>> but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM
>>>
>>> Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.
>>>
>>> Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
>>> be loaded/used by SM ?
>>>
>>> Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?
>>
>> Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
>> moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
>> call the Webextension format.
>>
>> SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
>> lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!
> 
> Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
> and TB exclusively ?
> 

Or you can stick with SeaMonkey.  I continued to use Eudora Lite for
E-mail long after it was no longer being updated.  I switched to
Thunderbird only when I was forced to change E-mail hosts, and Eudora
Lite could not be configured to use the new host.  That was about 7
years after the release of the last version of Eudora Lite.

The problem with Webextensions is that not all of the capabilities of
the 28 .xpi extensions that I now have -- and use - in SeaMonkey exist
in Webextensions.  The most serious lack is PrefBar, whose developer
indicates cannot be replicated as a Webextension.  He has made several
separate Webextensions to cover some of the PrefBar capabilities, but he
asserts that some just cannot be done.

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

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On 9/11/18 8:37 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
be loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
call the Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
and TB exclusively ?


TB also doesn't support web extensions, but it is planned for a future 
release.


There is a tracking bug for support in SeaMonkey.





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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Webextension support is planned for 2.57.

> Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF and 
TB exclusively ?


The first one becomes a permanent construction site with a more primitive ui 
in each version and functionality loss and the second one struggles too but is 
so far able to keep up. So have fun if you go this way.


FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the lack 
of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF and TB 
exclusively ?

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Daniel wrote on 11-09-18 10:56:

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can 
be loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF 
moving from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now 
call the Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!


Then, the best thing to do would be abandoning SM by using from now FF 
and TB exclusively ?

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Re: What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Daniel]

Ray_Net wrote on 11/09/2018 3:58 PM:

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?


Ray, I am not sure, but I think your problem may be tied up in FF moving 
from the old xpi type of extension to what I think they now call the 
Webextension format.


SM has not, yet, moved to the Webextension format ... and, due to the 
lack of Developer Workforce, they may never get there!!

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What about new extensions(add-on) ?

[Ray_Net]

Example:

Now I can use adblock_plus-2.9.1-an+fx+sm+tb.xpi into SM
but I cannot use adblock_plus-3.0.1-an+fx.xpi into SM

Because the addon-interface is different for the new FF.

Would SM be modified in such a way that an addon for the new FF can be 
loaded/used by SM ?


Or SM will stay with the old addon-interface FOREVER ?
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Re: what do I do about the certificate error at start up of your web site?

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mode...@gmail.com wrote on 12/07/2018 3:34 PM:

cannot use web site

A bit more detail would probably help.  What website?? When you get 
there, what does it say?


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what do I do about the certificate error at start up of your web site?

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cannot use web site
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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[sean]

null wrote on 06/20/2018 03:03 AM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.


Isn't it cool when the archives of mozilla newsgrousp can help solve a 
problem?


all the best...

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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[Daniel]

null wrote on 21/06/2018 11:51 PM:

Daniel wrote:

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, 
was discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it 
without problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started 
to play up and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer 
and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the 
hope that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here 
in case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find 
no longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
You are right -- Sunbird is very, very, very old, and is no longer 
supported. But then, I'm also very, very, very old too, but things still 
seem to work okay. Wait ... what was that creaking sound?


I had looked through the Mozilla group names but failed to see the 
calendar one, so thanks for that! Subscribed, did a search for Sunbird, 
and found a thread back in 2012 that discussed precisely my problem. I 
simply moved the content of the existing profiles fold out and replaced 
it with the old stuff that I have recovered, and the whole think worked 
perfectly displaying all the old data. So again, thanks for that tip!



No problem!

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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[null]

Daniel wrote:

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, 
was discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it 
without problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started 
to play up and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer 
and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the 
hope that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here 
in case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find 
no longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
You are right -- Sunbird is very, very, very old, and is no longer 
supported. But then, I'm also very, very, very old too, but things still 
seem to work okay. Wait ... what was that creaking sound?


I had looked through the Mozilla group names but failed to see the 
calendar one, so thanks for that! Subscribed, did a search for Sunbird, 
and found a thread back in 2012 that discussed precisely my problem. I 
simply moved the content of the existing profiles fold out and replaced 
it with the old stuff that I have recovered, and the whole think worked 
perfectly displaying all the old data. So again, thanks for that tip!


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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[Daniel]

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find no 
longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
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Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[null]

Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[GerardJan]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:45:45 AM UTC+8, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote:


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
be helpful. Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.


  From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor,
which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're
done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud,
and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.

You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically
that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of
text, use a tool designed for that.

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I suppose this is right.  I do have LibreOffice installed on the
same Linux box.  I was hoping to do everything under one roof.

Thanks.



Yes, Paul, I have the same

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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:45:45 AM UTC+8, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> 
> > What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
> > snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
> > be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
> > to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
> > be helpful. Thanks.
> > 
> > Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
> > extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
> 
>  From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor, 
> which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're 
> done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud, 
> and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.
> 
> You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically 
> that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of 
> text, use a tool designed for that.
> 
> -- 
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I suppose this is right.  I do have LibreOffice installed on the 
same Linux box.  I was hoping to do everything under one roof.

Thanks.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 6:57:06 AM UTC+8, David H. Durgee wrote:
> Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> > On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> >> Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:
> >>
> >>> I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
> >>> menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.
> >>
> >> What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail
> >> message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or
> >> complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example
> >> of another software which already does it, like another browser or user
> >> extension to it?
> >>
> >> It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus,
> >> though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact
> >> thing you're after.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Stanimir
> > 
> > What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets
> > into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get
> > word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The 
> > ability
> > to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.
> > 
> > Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions
> > that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
> > 
> 
> Actually a T-Bird might work as there is a common code base.  If not 
> as-is a T-Bird extension might work after being processed by the same 
> converter used on FireFox extensions.
> 
> Dave

My goodness. Way above my pay grade.  I'll await further
competence on my part.  Thanks.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[David H. Durgee]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:


I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.


What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail
message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or
complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example
of another software which already does it, like another browser or user
extension to it?

It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus,
though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact
thing you're after.

--
Stanimir


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets
into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get
word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The ability
to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions
that work in Tbird won't work in SM.



Actually a T-Bird might work as there is a common code base.  If not 
as-is a T-Bird extension might work after being processed by the same 
converter used on FireFox extensions.


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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jeffrey Needle wrote:


What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text
snippets into an email, and also in a Composer document. I'd love to
be able to get word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going
to get that. The ability to insert the date into an email would also
be helpful. Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the
extensions that work in Tbird won't work in SM.


From the sound of it, you should be composing in a word processor, 
which is designed with these features plus spell-checking. When you're 
done, copy/paste to a text editor like Notepad to remove all the crud, 
and then copy/paste from there to your HTML editor for formatting.


You can still do minor revisions in your HTML editor, but realistically 
that's not what they're designed for. To work with large volumes of 
text, use a tool designed for that.


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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 4:48:57 PM UTC+8, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:
> 
> > I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
> > menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.
> 
> What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail 
> message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or 
> complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example 
> of another software which already does it, like another browser or user 
> extension to it?
> 
> It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus, 
> though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact 
> thing you're after.
> 
> -- 
> Stanimir

What I'm hoping to do is to be able to insert frequently-used text snippets 
into an email, and also in a Composer document.  I'd love to be able to get 
word count for Composer, but I don't think I'm going to get that.  The ability 
to insert the date into an email would also be helpful.  Thanks.

Incidentally, I can do a lot of this in Tbird.  I'm assuming the extensions 
that work in Tbird won't work in SM.
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Re: Yet another question, about right click menu

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Thu, 24 May 2018 17:34:45 -0700 (PDT), _Jeffrey Needle_:


I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.


What's the context of the right-click you're up to – web page, mail 
message, other?  Would it be available only for selected text, or 
complete web page/mail message also?  Could you give a reference/example 
of another software which already does it, like another browser or user 
extension to it?


It is certainly possible to add such item to SeaMonkey context menus, 
though I'm not aware of existing add-on/extension which does the exact 
thing you're after.


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Yet another question, about right click menu

[Jeffrey Needle]

Okay, yes, I'm a pest.  Sorry.

I'm wondering if there is a way to add "Word Count" to the right click
menu in SM. I can't find a way, after searching on the web.

As always, thanks.
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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[GerardJan]

DoctorBill wrote:

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time ago.

I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there is 
a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".


Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access 
thru my SM Mail ?


If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).

Most highly confused DoctorBill




you need to have a provider like www.xs4all.nl (i don't)

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

On Monday, May 14, 2018 at 6:23:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> Hello again.
> 
> I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
> no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM. 
>  Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to 
> keep the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an 
> email?
> 
> Thanks.

I use Insert Image.  Is this incorrect?
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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[GerardJan]

Ray_Net wrote:

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?


Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...

+1

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Re: Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Ray_Net]

Jeffrey Needle wrote on 15-05-18 03:23:

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.

I do a simple copy/paste and I never encouter a check box ...
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Another question, if I may, about inserting graphics in emails

[Jeffrey Needle]

Hello again.

I can easily insert a graphic into an email, but I must check a box that says 
no caption needed.  In Thunderbird, this choice is remembered, but not in SM.  
Any setting so I don't have to set this option each time?  And any way to keep 
the download box from popping up each time I insert a graphic into an email?

Thanks.
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Looks like 2.49.3 is about to go live

[TCW]

Salvation is near!
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Re: Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Mason83]

On 12/03/2018 22:42, Arthur N. Dunning III wrote:

> To whom it may concern:
> 
> Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 

I would dispute the "recent" qualifier.

This italian smear campaign has been running for over a decade
by now.
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Re: Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Ray_Net]

Arthur N. Dunning III wrote on 12-03-18 22:42:

To whom it may concern:

Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 
regarding Silvio Berlusconi? Because I, for one, am getting tired of 
seeing them. This is about Seamonkey, not what's going on in Italy, 
and whoever is responsible clearly doesn't get that.


Arthur

Us the filtering option to discard such messages.
At news-account level or at individual subscribed group.
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Messages about Silvio Berlusconi

[Arthur N. Dunning III]

To whom it may concern:

Does anybody know who's responsible for recent messages in Italian 
regarding Silvio Berlusconi? Because I, for one, am getting tired of 
seeing them. This is about Seamonkey, not what's going on in Italy, and 
whoever is responsible clearly doesn't get that.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > Lenovo R60e Celeron.

Grab a barebone T61 15.4 or 14.1 with Intel Graphics from ebay. You 
usually can have them for small change now. You can use the keyboard, 
battery, memory and harddisk from the 60. Using one with Windows and is 
fine for SeaMonkey. Should be even faster with Linux.


Also the processor and ram should be upgradable on the 60.


Bought my Thinkpad L530 off of eBay for $200 a year ago to replace my 
old Latitude D820. Wiped the Win7 and have 16.04 running really well. 
Worked so well that a friend bought two similar, the T530s, and she paid 
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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[Jonathan N. Little]

M.Ross wrote:
I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most 
errors that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved 
to be graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux 
code errors. Mostly desktop problems.


With such old under-powered hardware going Xubuntu or Lubuntu would be a 
better choice. Maxing out RAM to the 2GB would also help.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

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> Lenovo R60e Celeron.

Grab a barebone T61 15.4 or 14.1 with Intel Graphics from ebay. You usually 
can have them for small change now. You can use the keyboard, battery, memory 
and harddisk from the 60. Using one with Windows and is fine for SeaMonkey. 
Should be even faster with Linux.


Also the processor and ram should be upgradable on the 60.

FRG


M.Ross wrote:

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:09 -0800 NoOp wrote:
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS




You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.


I doubt this old Ubuntu to be the problem I report on. And I am aware of 12.04 
LTS demise. Quickly - and being Off Topic, I will stop here.


I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most errors 
that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved to be 
graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux code errors. 
Mostly desktop problems.


I try Lubuntu and Debian LXDE now. Maybe I can upgrade Linux that way. Unity 
unnecessary; Gnome Classic not really the problem, nor is Nautilus v3.4 FM. 
Cinnamon and Mate tried and failed -- overloaded -- over-coded desktops/FMs.


I need a good Linux Forum, similar to this one for Seamonkey. Something that 
welcomes older X86 laptops. But DSL too limited I think.


Anybody tag me direct, off list, with Debian/Ubuntu/etc Linux Forum List 
ideas. Include "linux4ross" in subject line. Thanks!



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[M.Ross]

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:09 -0800 NoOp wrote:
On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS




You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.


I doubt this old Ubuntu to be the problem I report on. And I am aware of 
12.04 LTS demise. Quickly - and being Off Topic, I will stop here.


I tried upgrading to 14.04 LTS shortly after it released, years ago. Not 
workable on this Lenovo R60e Celeron. So forget 16.04/or better. Most 
errors that occurred over the years since I installed 12.04 LTS proved 
to be graphical - according to Ubuntu -- Not Debian nor Ubuntu Linux 
code errors. Mostly desktop problems.


I try Lubuntu and Debian LXDE now. Maybe I can upgrade Linux that way. 
Unity unnecessary; Gnome Classic not really the problem, nor is Nautilus 
v3.4 FM. Cinnamon and Mate tried and failed -- overloaded -- over-coded 
desktops/FMs.


I need a good Linux Forum, similar to this one for Seamonkey. Something 
that welcomes older X86 laptops. But DSL too limited I think.


Anybody tag me direct, off list, with Debian/Ubuntu/etc Linux Forum List 
ideas. Include "linux4ross" in subject line. Thanks!


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So this
> will be my last post on this.

I know and didn't want to give offence. It is just that the small things are 
now falling off the cliff because we are short on resources and everyone needs 
to realize this.


Updates will also stay broken. Mozilla denied the project access to the update 
server. We now need to set up our own and this will take time.


FRG


M.Ross wrote:

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

...


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:50 +0100 Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So this 
will be my last post on this.


I hope you understand I was just pointing out something I discovered that did 
not work. Constructive critique to help is all.


I understand for years now the operation, dedication, and limits Mozilla Org 
volunteers work under. I started using Mozilla browser as soon as it was 
released; ver 0.98 or something? Beta?


I Understand Completely the problems and limits. I don't expect a fix for this 
anytime soon, for the reasons you give. Priorities must be set, time is 
limited to 32 hours a day! Maybe. And competent code volunteers able to help 
are needed.


I just wondered if other users realized this bug existed. Or is my system 
here, buggy once again? And made other comments, maybe wrong.


My access to the inet is extremely limited, and only recovered last fall after 
20 months doing without. I now mooch inet wifi from a neighbor out here in the 
Florida Everglades. Very limited service, outside.


But my Knowledge, Skill, Ability to code is not competent anymore. A young, or 
at least a sharp mind, is required.


I am convinced however, that if the Seamonkey Browser w-Bookmarks, and maybe 
the old Composer, were pulled from the Suite, and being a forked development - 
continued, the problems that exist would subside. Problems that exist often 
due to the "large scale integration"; the Suite with Mail, News, Address-book, 
Chat; too much in one package.


Seamonkey Browser suffers enough trying to deal with all the varieties of code 
from webpages. The plug-ins are proof. Past language problems another -- 
complicated by email and news.


I wish I were able to start a new fork to pull the Browser and run with it. 
Firefox is not it! Seamonkey(since old Mozilla) is worthy, the only GUI 
browser I can, most of the time, depend on. But I use Links2(as text and GUI), 
and Dooble, as backup. Not a joke. Chromium nor related, Google nor Microsoft 
anything, none are options for me.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


I Understand.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.


I will do as best I can. Probably not much nor soon.


Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.


I Understood. And Thanks for everything you and others do.


FRG



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[NoOp]

On 2/28/2018 8:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
> Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More
> 
> Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?
> 
> Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

You might want to upgrade to 16.04.2 LTS:
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)
Ubuntu 12.04 LTS reached its regular End of Life on April 28, 2017. No
more package updates, including security updates, will be accepted to
the 12.04 primary archive.






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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:
Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


If you want just a browser, you could try Pale Moon.  It is pretty good.

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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

[M.Ross]

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

...


Thu, 1 Mar 2018 08:50 +0100 Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


My original post was not to start a complaint thread, nor be rude. So 
this will be my last post on this.


I hope you understand I was just pointing out something I discovered 
that did not work. Constructive critique to help is all.


I understand for years now the operation, dedication, and limits Mozilla 
Org volunteers work under. I started using Mozilla browser as soon as it 
was released; ver 0.98 or something? Beta?


I Understand Completely the problems and limits. I don't expect a fix 
for this anytime soon, for the reasons you give. Priorities must be set, 
time is limited to 32 hours a day! Maybe. And competent code volunteers 
able to help are needed.


I just wondered if other users realized this bug existed. Or is my 
system here, buggy once again? And made other comments, maybe wrong.


My access to the inet is extremely limited, and only recovered last fall 
after 20 months doing without. I now mooch inet wifi from a neighbor out 
here in the Florida Everglades. Very limited service, outside.


But my Knowledge, Skill, Ability to code is not competent anymore. A 
young, or at least a sharp mind, is required.


I am convinced however, that if the Seamonkey Browser w-Bookmarks, and 
maybe the old Composer, were pulled from the Suite, and being a forked 
development - continued, the problems that exist would subside. Problems 
that exist often due to the "large scale integration"; the Suite with 
Mail, News, Address-book, Chat; too much in one package.


Seamonkey Browser suffers enough trying to deal with all the varieties 
of code from webpages. The plug-ins are proof. Past language problems 
another -- complicated by email and news.


I wish I were able to start a new fork to pull the Browser and run with 
it. Firefox is not it! Seamonkey(since old Mozilla) is worthy, the only 
GUI browser I can, most of the time, depend on. But I use Links2(as text 
and GUI), and Dooble, as backup. Not a joke. Chromium nor related, 
Google nor Microsoft anything, none are options for me.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


I Understand.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.


I will do as best I can. Probably not much nor soon.


Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.


I Understood. And Thanks for everything you and others do.


FRG


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

[M.Ross]

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


Wed, 28 Feb 2018 13:55 -0500 WaltS48 wrote:
On 02/28/2018 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>

-snip-
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.

The page or file you're looking for wasn't found on our site. It's 
possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the 
address incorrectly.


     If you typed in the address, please double check the spelling.
     If you followed a link from somewhere, please let us know at 
webmas...@seamonkey-project.org. Tell us where you came from and what 
you were looking for, and we'll do our best to fix it.


Or you can just jump over to some of the popular pages on our website.

     Were you looking for our downloads?
     Or maybe information about the SeaMonkey project?
     It might just be best to start at the SeaMonkey Home Page.
-snip-

No Webmaster? I know there is turmoil in Zilla-Land, but is it time to 
take a holiday from using Zillas until matters are solved?


Problem is no worthy GUI browser exits. Firefox is too immature, and 
much of it has infected Seamonkey from the stable work it seemed to be 
when first taken over by the original Seamonkey group. Now it is back in 
Moz-Hands for a while.


Chromium is Google junk. Opera is too clumsy / buggy / overloaded / 
bloated / ... -- but it seems Seamonkey is no better than Opera now; 
over-coded or something. What? So---


Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -

applications.



So you didn't click the webmas...@seamonkey-project.org and ask about 
the Page Not Found?


Do you mean email: webmas...@seamonkey-project.org ? Like this:

-snip-
Date: 22 Feb 2018 17:02:32 -
From: mailer-dae...@vfemail.net
To: mross...@vfemail.net
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at vfemail.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following 
addresses.

This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<webmas...@seamonkey-project.org>:
92.42.142.148 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 454 4.7.1 <webmas...@seamonkey-project.org>: Relay 
access

denied
Giving up on 92.42.142.148.
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.
-snip-

Is that a bad email address? Or me doing something wrong?


This might help if you are curious about plugins.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins>


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Correct. I know about it and a few other cases too. I can spend time fixing 
these or real bugs. Same for the other devs and maintainers.


As long as no people stepping forward and actively help out it will be a 
dollar short a lot of times.


Checkout the website code at:

https://hg.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/seamonkey-project-org/

File a bug and add a patch.

Set a reviewer. You can add me if you want.

Only filing a bug won't get it fixed btw.

FRG

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>



This look like SM developers weren't aware the link existed. The link was 
added to about:plugins in Firefox, and the code looks like this:


--
deprecationLink.href = 
Services.urlFormatter.formatURLPref("app.support.baseURL") + "npapi";

--

"app.support.baseURL" is preference setting which tells you the URL of the 
support site, then it adds "npapi".


That code is probably Firefox code that SeaMonkey uses, and 
"app.support.baseURL" in SeaMonkey is set to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/



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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>



This look like SM developers weren't aware the link existed. The link 
was added to about:plugins in Firefox, and the code looks like this:


--
deprecationLink.href = 
Services.urlFormatter.formatURLPref("app.support.baseURL") + "npapi";

--

"app.support.baseURL" is preference setting which tells you the URL of 
the support site, then it adds "npapi".


That code is probably Firefox code that SeaMonkey uses, and 
"app.support.baseURL" in SeaMonkey is set to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[WaltS48]

On 02/28/2018 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>

-snip-
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.

The page or file you're looking for wasn't found on our site. It's 
possible that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the 
address incorrectly.


     If you typed in the address, please double check the spelling.
     If you followed a link from somewhere, please let us know at 
webmas...@seamonkey-project.org. Tell us where you came from and what 
you were looking for, and we'll do our best to fix it.


Or you can just jump over to some of the popular pages on our website.

     Were you looking for our downloads?
     Or maybe information about the SeaMonkey project?
     It might just be best to start at the SeaMonkey Home Page.
-snip-

No Webmaster? I know there is turmoil in Zilla-Land, but is it time to 
take a holiday from using Zillas until matters are solved?


Problem is no worthy GUI browser exits. Firefox is too immature, and 
much of it has infected Seamonkey from the stable work it seemed to be 
when first taken over by the original Seamonkey group. Now it is back in 
Moz-Hands for a while.


Chromium is Google junk. Opera is too clumsy / buggy / overloaded / 
bloated / ... -- but it seems Seamonkey is no better than Opera now; 
over-coded or something. What? So---


Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -

applications.



So you didn't click the webmas...@seamonkey-project.org and ask about 
the Page Not Found?


This might help if you are curious about plugins.

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/npapi-plugins>
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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[Jonathan N. Little]

M.Ross wrote:

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS


Are you saying you are still running 12.04.5 LTS?

Dude you need to upgrade! ;-)

12.04 is well passed its sell-by date. You should be on at lease 14.04 
LTS and that release goes EOL next year and 16.04 would be a better long 
term solution. You may have a library issue that is not backported to 12.04.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

[M.Ross]

Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More


Wed, 28 Feb 2018 11:33 -0500 WaltS48 wrote:
On 2/28/18 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! But 
too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. Modularize 
Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -
applications. 


Those are called Firefox and Thunderbird. ;-)


Those are Not workable for me! Thanks anyway.

With all due respect, I made reference to Firefox, and should include 
Thunderbird with that comment, though I never found Thunderbird usable 
and forgot it even exists. I need workable software, just the browser.


The Browser is all I want of the Seamonkey Suite. The rest is of no use 
to me - being immature and clumsy.


Seamonkey Suite is the better part of the Mozilla Firefox and 
Thunderbird work. Without Seamonkey browser, Mozilla offers nothing 
else. I would gladly return to old Mozilla - prior to Seamonkey - if 
possible; though the first few issues of Seamonkey were great; the 
browser part.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[WaltS48]

On 2/28/18 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:
I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -
applications. 



Those are called Firefox and Thunderbird. ;-)

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Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[M.Ross]

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for 
<http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>


-snip-
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we can't find what you're looking for.

The page or file you're looking for wasn't found on our site. It's possible 
that you clicked a link that's out of date, or typed in the address 
incorrectly.


If you typed in the address, please double check the spelling.
If you followed a link from somewhere, please let us know at 
webmas...@seamonkey-project.org. Tell us where you came from and what you were 
looking for, and we'll do our best to fix it.


Or you can just jump over to some of the popular pages on our website.

Were you looking for our downloads?
Or maybe information about the SeaMonkey project?
It might just be best to start at the SeaMonkey Home Page.
-snip-

No Webmaster? I know there is turmoil in Zilla-Land, but is it time to 
take a holiday from using Zillas until matters are solved?


Problem is no worthy GUI browser exits. Firefox is too immature, and much 
of it has infected Seamonkey from the stable work it seemed to be when 
first taken over by the original Seamonkey group. Now it is back in 
Moz-Hands for a while.


Chromium is Google junk. Opera is too clumsy / buggy / overloaded / 
bloated / ... -- but it seems Seamonkey is no better than Opera now; 
over-coded or something. What? So---


Can Seamonkey Browser be easily extracted from the Suite? Just use the 
browser and bookmarks? No Chat, Composer, Mail/News/Addressbook/ etc? I 
don't use more than browser and bookmarks anyway. Alpine is still the 
most reliable and usable for mail/news service.


Separated from the Suite, SM-Browser might be easier for the coders to 
deal with, to settle down, and these Add-Ons/Extensions/etc can be dealt 
with for one purpose. Browsing!


I appreciate the efforts of the volunteer coders working on Seamonkey! 
But too much seems amiss and not solvable in reasonable time frames. 
Modularize Seamonkey, separate it into individual - workable -

applications.

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Re: was about zoom

[GérardJan]

Bea wrote:

A few people replied and provided info.  The problem was solved so I don't need 
more info. Thanks for helping.


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Re: Questions about repeated report from Malwarebytes

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 8/1/2017 10:17 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> ...
>>
>> The following assumes you are using Windows 7, but there should be
>> equivalent steps with other versions of Windows.
>>
>> For Chrome, you must use the Windows Task Manager. On your task bar
>> at the bottom of you monitor screen, right click away from any task
>> buttons. Select Start Task Manager.  ...
> 
> Good answer all around, kudos.
> 
> I'd like to add that the easy way to launch Windows Task Manager (has
> been for decades in all versions of Windows, though I can't speak for
> Win10), is CTRL-SHIFT-ESC.
> 
Also works on Windows 10.

Regards
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[Paul B. Gallagher]

David E. Ross wrote:


...

The following assumes you are using Windows 7, but there should be
equivalent steps with other versions of Windows.

For Chrome, you must use the Windows Task Manager. On your task bar
at the bottom of you monitor screen, right click away from any task
buttons. Select Start Task Manager.  ...


Good answer all around, kudos.

I'd like to add that the easy way to launch Windows Task Manager (has 
been for decades in all versions of Windows, though I can't speak for 
Win10), is CTRL-SHIFT-ESC.


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Re: Questions about repeated report from Malwarebytes

[David E. Ross]

On 8/1/2017 4:45 PM, Bea wrote:
> Malwarebytes  has repeatedly notified me they're blocking 
> www.swagbucks.com, The report mentions a threat of 
> an outbound connection, the same IP addressed each time, and 
> C:\programfiles(x86)...Application\chrome.exe.  Every time I try to uninstall 
> Chrome I get the message that I have to close Chrome windows, whatever that 
> means.
> 
> 
> This started after downloading the newer version of SeaMonkey.  What do I do 
> to get this to stop? How do I uninstall Chrome?
> 
> 
> Bea
> 
> Earn Reward Points and Redeem Them For Free Stuff at 
> ...
> www.swagbucks.com
> Earn Swag Bucks for your online activity. Join with Facebook or enter your 
> email, new password, and re-enter password to get started.
> 
> 

First of all, Mozilla (including such Mozilla-based applications as
SeaMonkey) used the term "chrome" (lower-case "c") before Google
developed its Chrome (upper-case "C") browser.  If you have Firefox,
Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, or related applications, you have chrome folders
and files.  These have nothing to do with Chrome or chrome.exe.

Now for your problem, you have installed AVG Anti-Virus in addition to
Malwarebytes.  The fault lies with AVG Anti-Virus.  When you updated AVG
Anti-Virus, it automatically added the Chrome browser without asking you
for permission.  My recommendation is to uninstall both AVG Anti-Virus
and Chrome.  This can be complicated.  The following assumes you are
using Windows 7, but there should be equivalent steps with other
versions of Windows.

For Chrome, you must use the Windows Task Manager.  On your task bar at
the bottom of you monitor screen, right click away from any task
buttons.  Select Start Task Manager.  Select the Processes tab.  Near
the top of the Processes pane, click on the Image Name bar to sort the
processes in alphabetical order.  If you scroll down and see chrome.exe,
select it and then select the End Process button at the bottom-right
corner of the window.  Check to make sure Chrome is terminated.  Then
use the Windows Programs and Features window to uninstall Chrome; you
can reach this window from [Settings > Control Panel].

To uninstall AVG, see
.


Then get a fresh installer file for AVG.  When you install, make sure
you uncheck the checkboxes for also installing Chrome.  NEVER again
allow AVG to update automatically.  NEVER again click on the update
button in AVG.  ALWAYS work from a fresh installer file that you
download via SeaMonkey.

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United States.  In any case, they all swore an oath of office
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Questions about repeated report from Malwarebytes

[Bea]

Malwarebytes  has repeatedly notified me they're blocking 
www.swagbucks.com, The report mentions a threat of an 
outbound connection, the same IP addressed each time, and 
C:\programfiles(x86)...Application\chrome.exe.  Every time I try to uninstall 
Chrome I get the message that I have to close Chrome windows, whatever that 
means.


This started after downloading the newer version of SeaMonkey.  What do I do to 
get this to stop? How do I uninstall Chrome?


Bea

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...
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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[David E. Ross]

On 7/10/2017 2:45 PM, Lee wrote:
> On 7/8/17, Ed Mullen  wrote:
>> On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
>> great aplomb:
>>> I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
>>> desktop.
>>> We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
>>> I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
>>> Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
>>> colors, active is set to Red.
>>>
>>> On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
>>> color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
>>> moment.  Underline links is checked.
>>>
>>> I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
>>> fix my wife's system.
>>>
>>> Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
>>> current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
>>> something to identify it) ?
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.
>>
>> 
>>
>> What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:
>>
>> /* Change color of active tab */
>> tab[selected="true"] {
>> background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
>> color: white !important;
>> }
>>
>> /* Make the active tab bold */
>> tab[selected="true"] {
>> font-weight: bold !important;
>> }
>>
>> /* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
>> tab:not([selected="true"]) {
>> background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
>> color: blue !important;
>> }
> 
> Anybody else made changes in userchrome.css ?
> 
> /*
>  * Change color of selected tab
>  */
> .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"],
> .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
>margin-left:  0px;
>margin-right: 0px;
>background-color: white !important;
>color: black !important;
>border-bottom: 2px solid #cc6600 !important;
>border-top-left-radius:  12px !important;
>border-top-right-radius: 12px !important;
>}
> 
> Lee
> 

Yes.  My active tab is dark blue with white text.  If I hover my cursor
over my active tab, however, the tab turns pale blue with black text.
The text is slightly larger than the rest of my user interface text.
Here is my CSS:

/* Font size on tabs */
.tabbrowser-tab
{ font-size: 105% !important }

/* Highlight active tab */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > .tab-close-button
{   background-color: #7799FF !important;
color: #ff !important }

.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"]:hover > .tab-close-button
{   background-color: #CCDDFF !important;
color: #00 !important }

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Lee]

On 7/8/17, Ed Mullen  wrote:
> On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
> great aplomb:
>> I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
>> desktop.
>> We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
>> I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
>> Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
>> colors, active is set to Red.
>>
>> On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
>> color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
>> moment.  Underline links is checked.
>>
>> I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
>> fix my wife's system.
>>
>> Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?
>>
>> Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
>> current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
>> something to identify it) ?
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
>>
>
> Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.
>
> 
>
> What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:
>
> /* Change color of active tab */
> tab[selected="true"] {
> background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
> color: white !important;
> }
>
> /* Make the active tab bold */
> tab[selected="true"] {
> font-weight: bold !important;
> }
>
> /* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
> tab:not([selected="true"]) {
> background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
> color: blue !important;
> }

Anybody else made changes in userchrome.css ?

/*
 * Change color of selected tab
 */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"],
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] > hbox {
   margin-left:  0px;
   margin-right: 0px;
   background-color: white !important;
   color: black !important;
   border-bottom: 2px solid #cc6600 !important;
   border-top-left-radius:  12px !important;
   border-top-right-radius: 12px !important;
   }

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Daniel wrote:

On 9/07/2017 3:50 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make
the current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light,
colored, something to identify it) ?


This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat
is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]


It looks like you're using a theme other than the default, and the
highlighting might be part of that theme. Make sure your wife's
profile is using the same theme, selected at Tools > Add-ons
Manager > Appearance.

Otherwise, as others have mentioned, it may be that you've customised
the userChrome.css file in your profile to get this effect.


Mark, did you mean that DB should compare Theme settings at
View->Apply Theme??


No, but that does look like another way of doing it.

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Daniel]

On 9/07/2017 3:50 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now. I just lately installed it on my
wife's desktop. We both are using Windows 7 Pro. I do not know why,
but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the Tab in use at
the moment is light colored. In Pref's, appearance, colors, active
is set to Red.


That affects the default colour of links within web pages, if the page's
style doesn't specify otherwise.


On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the
same color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in
at any moment. Underline links is checked.


Again, that option is related to links within web pages.


I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in
order to fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make
the current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light,
colored, something to identify it) ?


This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat
is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]


It looks like you're using a theme other than the default, and the
highlighting might be part of that theme. Make sure your wife's profile
is using the same theme, selected at Tools > Add-ons Manager > Appearance.

Otherwise, as others have mentioned, it may be that you've customised
the userChrome.css file in your profile to get this effect.

Mark, did you mean that DB should compare Theme settings at View->Apply 
Theme??


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[EE]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM intimately..

Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE
directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?

Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer
(WinKey + E).

I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome directories
in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.
Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 

Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the Directory
Tree in Wins 7.
"Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep track of AND it looks like it
is different on our two computers !  Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on
different Windows 7 Pro machines ?

EEEGAD !

DoctorBill

You should not have two .css extensions in the filename; the proper name 
is userChrome.css.


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[EE]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill


If you use the same theme all the time, you could add code to a 
userChrome.css file in a chrome subdirectory in the profile for 
SeaMonkey to change the background of the selected tab. The code:


/* Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct 
functioning */
@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;);


.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] {
  background-color: #BFC8D2 !important;
}

More info about userChrome.css:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[David E. Ross]

On 7/8/2017 10:54 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> On 7/8/17 at 12:35 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
> great aplomb:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
 desktop.
 We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
 I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
 Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
 colors, active is set to Red.

 On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
 color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
 moment.  Underline links is checked.

 I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
 fix my wife's system.

 Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

 Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
 current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
 something to identify it) ?

 DoctorBill


>>> This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM intimately..
>>>
>>> Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE
>>> directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?
>>>
>>> Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer
>>> (WinKey + E).
>>>
>>> I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome directories
>>> in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.
>>> Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 
>>>
>>> Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the Directory
>>> Tree in Wins 7.
>>> "Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep track of AND it looks like it
>>> is different on our two computers !  Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on
>>> different Windows 7 Pro machines ?
>>>
>>> EEEGAD !
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> If You Folks can tell me where to put the type ED MULLEN gave me
>> 
>> where it works on my wife's system, I would like that one !
>> Problem is - none of this is working on her system.don't understand.
>> Is the file userChrome.css   or   userChrome.css.css ?
>> Which subdir is THE right one ?!
>> I think I got my userChrome.css.css file from someone here quite a long 
>> while back.and it worked.
>> Strange !
>>
>> DoctorBill
> 
> 
> 
> The file is userChrome.css
> 
> The path is:
> 
> C:\Users\ name>>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.
> 
> where the *** is a random string.
> 
> 

That path is the default path.  However, some users (including me) set
their profiles elsewhere.  That is why, users should instead select
[Help > Troubleshooting Information] from the menu bar and then select
the Open Folder button to the right of "Profile Folder".  That will
reveal the actual location wherever it is.

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/8/17 at 11:39 AM, Ed Mullen's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's 
desktop.

We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, 
the Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance, 
colors, active is set to Red.


On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same 
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any 
moment.  Underline links is checked.


I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order 
to fix my wife's system.


Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the 
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored, 
something to identify it) ?


DoctorBill




Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.



What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:

/* Change color of active tab */
tab[selected="true"] {
background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
color: white !important;
}

/* Make the active tab bold */
tab[selected="true"] {
font-weight: bold !important;
}

/* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
tab:not([selected="true"]) {
background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
color: blue !important;
}





I should have mentioned (the obvious) that you'll have to create the jpg 
files referred to in the above.  ;-) It's those files that make the 
active tab a blue pattern and inactive the yellow pattern.


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

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DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my
wife's desktop. We both are using Windows 7 Pro. I do not know why,
but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the Tab in use at
the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance, colors, active
is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the
same color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in
at any moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in
order to fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make
the current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light,
colored, something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM
intimately..

Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE
directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?

Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer
(WinKey + E).

I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome
directories in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.
Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 

Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the
Directory Tree in Wins 7. "Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep
track of AND it looks like it is different on our two computers !
Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on different Windows 7 Pro machines ?

EEEGAD !

DoctorBill


The easiest way to get to the profile folder is:
- Help > Troubleshooting Information
- About half way down the "Application Basics" section, next to "Profile 
Folder" click "Show Folder"; that should open the folder for the current 
profile

- Within that folder there should be a "chrome" folder (if not, create it)
- Within the "chrome" folder, you can create a userChrome.css file as 
described (or edit the existing one if it already exists)


Make sure the file is named userChrome.css - not userChrome.css.css! On 
Windows Explorer, it is helpful to go to Organise > Folder and Search 
Options (menu names may be different in Windows 7!) and on the View tab 
untick "Hide extensions for known file types". That way you can see and 
change the extension. You might also want to set "Show hidden files and 
folders" so that you can see the hidden folders such as AppData.


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/8/17 at 12:35 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM intimately..

Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE
directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?

Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer
(WinKey + E).

I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome directories
in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.
Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 

Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the Directory
Tree in Wins 7.
"Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep track of AND it looks like it
is different on our two computers !  Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on
different Windows 7 Pro machines ?

EEEGAD !

DoctorBill



If You Folks can tell me where to put the type ED MULLEN gave me

where it works on my wife's system, I would like that one !
Problem is - none of this is working on her system.don't understand.
Is the file userChrome.css   or   userChrome.css.css ?
Which subdir is THE right one ?!
I think I got my userChrome.css.css file from someone here quite a long 
while back.and it worked.

Strange !

DoctorBill




The file is userChrome.css

The path is:

C:\Users\name>>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.


where the *** is a random string.


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now. I just lately installed it on my
wife's desktop. We both are using Windows 7 Pro. I do not know why,
but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the Tab in use at
the moment is light colored. In Pref's, appearance, colors, active
is set to Red.


That affects the default colour of links within web pages, if the page's 
style doesn't specify otherwise.



On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the
same color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in
at any moment. Underline links is checked.


Again, that option is related to links within web pages.


I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in
order to fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make
the current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light,
colored, something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat
is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]


It looks like you're using a theme other than the default, and the 
highlighting might be part of that theme. Make sure your wife's profile 
is using the same theme, selected at Tools > Add-ons Manager > Appearance.


Otherwise, as others have mentioned, it may be that you've customised 
the userChrome.css file in your profile to get this effect.


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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM intimately..

Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE
directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?

Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer
(WinKey + E).

I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome directories
in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.
Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 

Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the Directory
Tree in Wins 7.
"Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep track of AND it looks like it
is different on our two computers !  Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on
different Windows 7 Pro machines ?

EEEGAD !

DoctorBill



If You Folks can tell me where to put the type ED MULLEN gave me

where it works on my wife's system, I would like that one !
Problem is - none of this is working on her system.don't understand.
Is the file userChrome.css   or   userChrome.css.css ?
Which subdir is THE right one ?!
I think I got my userChrome.css.css file from someone here quite a long 
while back.and it worked.

Strange !

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill



This is MADDENING ! - for someone who doesn't know SM intimately..

Windows 7 Pro has SeaMonkey, Mozilla, and CHROME in many MULTIPLE 
directories on the C:/ drive !  Which ones do what !?


Some - I cannot get to (they don't even show up) in Windows Explorer 
(WinKey + E).


I have put MY userChrome.css.css into a couple of the Chrome directories 
in my wife's machine W/O ANY EFFECT on her computer.

Which CHROME subdirectory is THE one affecting SM's Tabs 

Doing the %appdata% thing does not tell me WHERE I went on the Directory 
Tree in Wins 7.
"Users"  "PC"  - this is difficult to keep track of AND it looks like it 
is different on our two computers !  Can SM load up DIFFERENTLY on 
different Windows 7 Pro machines ?


EEEGAD !

DoctorBill

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/8/17 at 10:08 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's 
desktop.

We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the 
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance, 
colors, active is set to Red.


On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same 
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any 
moment.  Underline links is checked.


I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to 
fix my wife's system.


Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the 
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored, 
something to identify it) ?


DoctorBill




Jonathan's reply is good.  You can also go further.



What you see there is done by this code in userChrome.css:

/* Change color of active tab */
tab[selected="true"] {
   background: #383 url(tab05.jpg);
   color: white !important;
}

/* Make the active tab bold */
tab[selected="true"] {
   font-weight: bold !important;
}

/* Change color of normal/unselected tabs */
tab:not([selected="true"]) {
   background: #383 url(tab03.jpg);
   color: blue !important;
}



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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill




This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]

DoctorBill


I see this News Group won't show images like forums do.
Anyway - just click on the link.   You can see how the current Tab being
used is lighter.
How do I make my wife's system do that ?  Not obvious - to me, that is.
DB


If it is not a monitor gamma issue or a custom theme you can style it to 
make it extra obvious


WinKey+R

enter:
%APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles

Go into profile folder

[8-RANDOM-CHARS].default

Enter chome subdirectory, if not present create one

edit or create userChrome.css

/* Make active tab obvious I used yellow for demonstration */
.tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] *
{
background-color: yellow !important;
}

Save and start SeaMonkey and see results when you create some tabs...

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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[David E. Ross]

On 7/8/2017 7:41 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
>>> desktop.
>>> We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
>>> I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
>>> Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
>>> colors, active is set to Red.
>>>
>>> On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
>>> color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
>>> moment.  Underline links is checked.
>>>
>>> I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
>>> fix my wife's system.
>>>
>>> Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
>>> current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
>>> something to identify it) ?
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat is.
>> [img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]
>>
>> DoctorBill
> 
> I see this News Group won't show images like forums do.
> Anyway - just click on the link.   You can see how the current Tab being 
> used is lighter.
> How do I make my wife's system do that ?  Not obvious - to me, that is.
> DB
> 

Do the following for both computers.  In the SeaMonkey profile, open the
chrome folder.  Open the file userChrome.css in a plain-text editor
(e.g., Notpad, Wordpad, but NOT Word).

Where the two userChrome.css files differ relative to
.tabbrowser-tab
make the file on your wife's computer the same as on your own.

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Between when Trump hinted there might be such tapes
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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill




This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]

DoctorBill


I see this News Group won't show images like forums do.
Anyway - just click on the link.   You can see how the current Tab being 
used is lighter.

How do I make my wife's system do that ?  Not obvious - to me, that is.
DB
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Re: Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's
desktop.
We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance,
colors, active is set to Red.

On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any
moment.  Underline links is checked.

I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to
fix my wife's system.

Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored,
something to identify it) ?

DoctorBill




This is what I am talking about - if I can show images herethat is.
[img]https://s19.postimg.org/v5v708f6r/Sea_Monkey_with_Tabs.jpg[/img]

DoctorBill
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Question about Active versus non-active Tabs

[DoctorBill]

I am using SM 2.46 right now.  I just lately installed it on my wife's 
desktop.

We both are using Windows 7 Pro.
I do not know why, but on my computer, when there are multiple Tabs, the 
Tab in use at the moment is light colored.  In Pref's, appearance, 
colors, active is set to Red.


On my wife's computer, all the (Multiple) tabs in use are ALL the same 
color, which makes it difficult to tell which tab you are in at any 
moment.  Underline links is checked.


I have looked in preferences to see why my Tabs act that way in order to 
fix my wife's system.


Is this current tab thing a SM thing or a Windows 7 thing ?

Can someone tell me what to toggle in SM (or Windows 7) to make the 
current Tab (when there are multiple tabs) different (light, colored, 
something to identify it) ?


DoctorBill


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was about zoom

[Bea]

A few people replied and provided info.  The problem was solved so I don't need 
more info. Thanks for helping.


Bea

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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[chicagofan]

DoctorBill wrote:

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long 
time ago.


I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found 
that there is a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on 
"www.w7forums.com/".


Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I 
access thru my SM Mail ?


I would say exactly.  :)  I've subscribed to it for years through 
eternal-september.org.  As others have described for you, it's simple to 
set up.

bj



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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[njoracle]

DoctorBill wrote:
> In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !
> 
> Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time 
> ago.
> 
> I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there 
> is
> a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".
> 
> Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access
> thru my SM Mail ?
> 
> If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).
> 
> Most highly confused DoctorBill
> 
> 
> 
I would agree that news.eternal-september.org would be a good choice for
subscribing to newsgroups. To set it up, you can follow the instructions shown 
here:

http://ilias.ca/moznewsgroups-sm

for how to set up the newsgroup account for news.mozilla.org. However, wherever
you see news.mozilla.org in the above instruction, just replace it with
news.eternal-september.org

Please note that in order to use news.eternal-september.org, you will first have
to register but it is all free. The link for registration is here:
https://www.eternal-september.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php?language=en
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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[Richmond]

DoctorBill <non...@gmail.com> writes:

> In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !
>
> Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time
> ago.
>
> I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there
> is a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".
>
> Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access
> thru my SM Mail ?
>
> If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).
>
> Most highly confused DoctorBill

You can post with out an account if you use news.aioe.org as your
server.

You go to account settings, add account, newsgroup account. Put
news.aioe.org (or eternal-september if you prefer). You can have
more than one, so no need to drop mozilla.
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Re: Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long time ago.

I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that there 
is a
Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on "www.w7forums.com/".

Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I access 
thru my SM
Mail ?

If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).

Most highly confused DoctorBill


You will have to sign up for a different NNTP server.
I suggest:
https://www.eternal-september.org/
IMO, that is the best free one.
They will require registration and password.
Go there and read what is on their web page.
Alt.windows7.general is an active NG.

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Off Topic Question about Newsgroup Accounts

[DoctorBill]

In total ignorance - I ask here as I don't know where to ask !

Somehow I got into this Mozilla newsgroup - can't remember how - long 
time ago.


I want to ask questions about Windows 7 and when googling, I found that 
there is a Newsgroup called "alt.windows7.general" - found on 
"www.w7forums.com/".


Is that Newsgroup anything like THIS news group (Mozilla.org) which I 
access thru my SM Mail ?


If so, I have NO CLUE how to set it up (account?).

Most highly confused DoctorBill



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Re: Error Message About Message Storage Under 'Copies and Folders' SM 2.46 W 10P

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Bo1953 wrote:


Hello all,

Running the above I find that upon trying to re-configure or re-set
email settings, for the aol and one (1) yahoo account I receive the
following error message and cannot, as of yet, figure out how to make
the requested change(s):

The Local Directory path
"C:\Users\ABcd\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\4tttl80p.default\Mail\incoming.verizon-,net"
is not suitable for message storage Please choose another directory.

The only thing which has changed in this case is the account is no
longer verizon, but aol.

Similar message for a yahoo account too.

Any insights greatly appreciated TIA,


Do you really have "incoming.verizon-,net" with hyphen-comma in the 
folder name? And is that also in your SM server settings?


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Re: How do you download the source for Seamonkey-2.47? (Solved and note about 2.46 / 2.47)

[kirkpuppy]

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 10:27:12 PM UTC-5, kirk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Trying to download the source for 2.47. Tried:
> 
> hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-beta/ comm-beta
> python client.py checkout
> 
> But that got me 2.48 (gecko-51) and it won't compile. Is there a source tree 
> for each up coming release or a branch? 
> 
> The reason we want 2.47 is that we've noticed that Youtube HTML5 videos will 
> sometimes pause and act like it's buffering, but it's not a network problem. 
> And this only happens on some computers. This is with 2.40 and 2.46. One of 
> the guys I work with compiled Firefox-50 and it doesn't seem to have that 
> problem.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Kirk

Seamonkey-2.47 did fix the Youtube HTML5 buffering problem we were having. This 
is on Linux 64 bit. I know there have been some problems with l10n repacks, 
once that's resolved might want to skip 2.46 and go with 2.47.

Thanks again for the help.

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About flashplayer for SeaMonkey

[Vinicio Villegas]

  
  
SeaMonkey 2.21
  works perfectly and does not bother "flashplayer" but in the following
versions there is much
  error why? :-[ 

-- 
  
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  2.6.32-5-686-AuthenticAMD, GNOME 2.30.2) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21

  
  
  
  
  

  

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Daniel]

On 15/04/2015 8:35 AM, HenriK wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.  I hope no one takes offense at my question.

Is Seamonkey going to be around for a while?  So many software
developers
drop support for their products after a period of time.  I'm investing a
lot of time and interest in Seamonkey.

Is it thought that SM will continue to be developed?  One can only
remember
Mozilla stopping development on Thunderbird and wonder about the
future of
SM.


Both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are still in development, although now
as community projects (made up of volunteers).

AFAIK, it's still being worked on, but, I might add, it does require
more contributors (esp. in terms of coding).

As for your initial question Is SeaMonkey going to be around
for a while, no one really can tell you.  We, as contributors,
certainly will do our best to make it be around for a while.

Edmund


 From the standpoint of this 77 year old SeaMonkey user since day one, I
just would like to thank all of you who contribute, have contributed,
and will contribute to keeping SeaMonkey going.  I only wish I knew one
tenth as much as you people know about software so all I can to is raise
my glass and shout 'Cheers' and 'Bravo' for your current, past, and
future efforts!


I think I'm a young pup around here, Henrik, at only 58, but I reflect 
your comments about the crew that develop SM.


I started, in 1996, with Netscape Navigator V 0.9, progressing to 
Netscape Communicator V 7.0 or there abouts, then Mozilla Suite to about 
V 1.7.2, then to SeaMonkey V 1.0, I think.


I do my little bit to help the Devs by test running the SeaMonkey Beta 
versions as they come out, but I don't think I've found any problems, so 
cannot complain at all!!


Keep up the good efforts as long as you Devs can  at least for the 
next twenty years or so, please!!


Cross-posted and follow-up set to moz.general

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Daniel

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