Re: [Talk-hr] Fwd: Server za OSM
Radi se o tome da Openstreetmap radi na rasterećenju tile servera tako da se posao podijeli na njih nekoliko koji poslužuju svoje djelove Svijeta. Dražen (dodobas) je pokrenuo inicijativu da u Hrvatskoj postavimo jedan takav server. Trenutno postoje dva servera, u Britaniji i u Švedskoj: http://dns.openstreetmap.org/tile.openstreetmap.org.html I radi se na tome da jedan dovedu u SAD. Ako se to ostvari, trebat će nam donacije za hardver! :) Janko 2012/3/19 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com Zna li netko nešto o ovome? Trebamo li server u Osijeku? -- Forwarded message -- From: Zeljko Boros ze...@carnet.hr Date: 2012/3/15 Subject: Server za OSM To: valent.turko...@gmail.com Pozdrav, vidio sam da je prof Medak od nas trazio dopustenje za smjestaj OSM servera na Geodetskom faksu u Zagrebu. Vrijedi razmisliti o smjestaju tog servera kod nas u Osijeku, imamo 10G link, UPS, klimatizaciju, backup na IBM-ov Tape Library i dovoljno mjesta. Pa vidi s njima, ako imas veze s time, ciji je to server (neka donacija i slicno), da ne bi bilo da se petljamo u neciji trud. Bilo bi dobro za Osijek, da nije sve u ZG. Uostalom, trebamo testirati dodatni 10 GB link preko DWDM-a. :) A mozda se moze dobiti dodatni server, pa raditi neovisno o njima? Srdacan pozdrav, -- Zeljko Boros Sluzba sistemske podrske ustanovama clanicama Hrvatska akademska i istrazivacka mreza - CARNet Josipa Marohnica 5, 1 Zagreb tel: 0800 CARNet + 8, fax: +385 1 6661 615 http://sistemac.CARNet.hr -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
I've yet to really pass there but tonight probably will en route to cainta btw, on link roads, i noticed lots of link roads have no names thus when i test routing on my unit, it says turn to provincial road, that turned out just a road without the name tag i used similar conventions like the 32nd street - c5 flyover, using the name of the first street followed by a dash then the name of the second street. I also used names of u-turn slots (many of them on edsa, shaw, and quezon ave that used to have no names on another note, since i use my unit zoomed in to reveal POIs, there's this annoying 7-Eleven icon that indicates small convenience store that's actually Mini-stop. is this a Nuvi problem or a map problem? On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/1197920 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11036928 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I've confirmed that this flyover is now open. I've edited OSM to indicate such: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10967343 The flyover shape is just estimated. Somebody should get GPS track to confirm. :-) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I neglected to confirm today if the flyover is passable now, but I can confirm that the flyover is indeed as good as finished as of Thursday night. It's been marked as highway=construction in OSM for months now. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: is this really open? I can pass there tonight as I sometimes take a detour to BGC via a circuitous route to kalayaan to avoid EDSA traffic to QC http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=785069 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com I don't need a map! I have the GPS. Never need a map again, thank you - Car lost on Route 66, Radiator Springs (Cars) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [Leaflet] Leaflet Users Map
JFI -- Forwarded message -- From: Bryan McBride mcbride.br...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Leaflet] Leaflet Users Map To: leaflet...@googlegroups.com Add yourself to the Leaflet Users Map at http://users.leafletjs.com/ and put your city on the map! The site uses Leaflet, jQuery, PHP and SQLite to manage and display user markers. If you like it, feel free to grab the code at https://github.com/bmcbride/leaflet-users-map. BRYAN ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
This is a good workaround for unnamed road segments but I'm not sure if this the correct osm-way of things. i used similar conventions like the 32nd street - c5 flyover, using the name of the first street followed by a dash then the name of the second street. I also used names of u-turn slots (many of them on edsa, shaw, and quezon ave that used to have no names This is an osmph garmin map issue, we used the generic 7-11 icons for shop=grocer. Suggestions for a better icon style welcome. on another note, since i use my unit zoomed in to reveal POIs, there's this annoying 7-Eleven icon that indicates small convenience store that's actually Mini-stop. is this a Nuvi problem or a map problem? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Sotm2012 call for presentations
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Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
maning, Rally actually beat you to it by about a day: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11030523 :) On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/1197920 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11036928 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I've confirmed that this flyover is now open. I've edited OSM to indicate such: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10967343 The flyover shape is just estimated. Somebody should get GPS track to confirm. :-) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I neglected to confirm today if the flyover is passable now, but I can confirm that the flyover is indeed as good as finished as of Thursday night. It's been marked as highway=construction in OSM for months now. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: is this really open? I can pass there tonight as I sometimes take a detour to BGC via a circuitous route to kalayaan to avoid EDSA traffic to QC http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=785069 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Garmin map icon for convenience stores
Subject was BGC C-5 flyover This is an osmph garmin map issue, we used the generic 7-11 icons for shop=grocer. Suggestions for a better icon style welcome. on another note, since i use my unit zoomed in to reveal POIs, there's this annoying 7-Eleven icon that indicates small convenience store that's actually Mini-stop. is this a Nuvi problem or a map problem? The current icon for convenience stores in our Garmin map is actually a 7-11 and Mini Stop hybrid. The top half represents 7-11 while the bottom is for Mini Stop (recognize the colors?) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
What's the name of this ramp again? (from old news) http://balita.ph/2010/11/26/300-m-flyover-project-soon-to-rise-in-bonifacio-global-city-taguig/ I think i got the gps track of this BGC-C5 North Entry Ramp/Flyover last March 14 I don't recommended (this yet) if you are in a rush coming from Buendia going to C5. That time I had a family emergency call, and tried my luck on this new flyover instead of using Kalayaan Ave route. I got stuck up in traffic with the many road repairs stoplights along 32nd street. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: maning, Rally actually beat you to it by about a day: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11030523 :) On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/1197920 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11036928 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I've confirmed that this flyover is now open. I've edited OSM to indicate such: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10967343 The flyover shape is just estimated. Somebody should get GPS track to confirm. :-) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I neglected to confirm today if the flyover is passable now, but I can confirm that the flyover is indeed as good as finished as of Thursday night. It's been marked as highway=construction in OSM for months now. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: is this really open? I can pass there tonight as I sometimes take a detour to BGC via a circuitous route to kalayaan to avoid EDSA traffic to QC http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=785069 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Garmin map icon for convenience stores
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, my idea may already be obsolete. Any new intuitive icon design is welcome. It's actually easy to customize to improve the TYP file, and I can teach those not familiar... This sounds like an OpenStreetMap - Garmin workshop to me. Rally can teach how to make custom Garmin TYP (i.e., style) files, while maning can teach how to run mkgmap (which is the standard OSM to Garmin map converter software). Anybody interested? :-) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Garmin map icon for convenience stores
so that explains the colors of a hybrid icon :P there's really too little design option with that size. is the 16x16 the same for newer units like the nuvi series? on the design, can't help you here, not an artist even if I'm from Paete :( i zoom in to the map to see POIs while stuck in traffic, I've used Search only once in Pangasinan to look for Matutina resto to which OSM routed me flawlessly. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: hehe, i was the one who made this personal old icon inspired by Malsingmap's 7-11 icon to represent Convenience Store. the decision was based on the limitation by Garmin's assignments of Hex Codes to represent/differentiate the stores where we buy our supplies: I needed an intuitive common icon to represent these multi-brand 24-hour convenience stores in PH, that can fit on 16x16 pixels using basic 256colors - since my target device was a low-res outdoor Garmin 276c 60c/76c. And I also needed to differentiate these from the countless daytime sari-sari stores to reduce clutter during search. Anyway, my idea may already be obsolete. Any new intuitive icon design is welcome. It's actually easy to customize to improve the TYP file, and I can teach those not familiar... ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] BGC C-5 flyover
i passed there last night, usual traffic but the construction on 32nd are stll there my alternate route there from Buendia/Kalayaan on 32nd (not for sedans on heavy rains) left to 5th street right to 34th left to the road going around PNOC/British School right to U Parkway U-turn right to Triangle Drive right to 11th right to Kalayaan perhaps I can make this left to 32nd instead of the U-turn or 11th avenue/kalayaan may be lighter now that the ramp is now open? c-5 is slow only up to Bagong Ilog unlike EDSA these days On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: What's the name of this ramp again? (from old news) http://balita.ph/2010/11/26/300-m-flyover-project-soon-to-rise-in-bonifacio-global-city-taguig/ I think i got the gps track of this BGC-C5 North Entry Ramp/Flyover last March 14 I don't recommended (this yet) if you are in a rush coming from Buendia going to C5. That time I had a family emergency call, and tried my luck on this new flyover instead of using Kalayaan Ave route. I got stuck up in traffic with the many road repairs stoplights along 32nd street. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: maning, Rally actually beat you to it by about a day: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11030523 :) On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/1197920 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/11036928 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, I've confirmed that this flyover is now open. I've edited OSM to indicate such: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10967343 The flyover shape is just estimated. Somebody should get GPS track to confirm. :-) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I neglected to confirm today if the flyover is passable now, but I can confirm that the flyover is indeed as good as finished as of Thursday night. It's been marked as highway=construction in OSM for months now. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: is this really open? I can pass there tonight as I sometimes take a detour to BGC via a circuitous route to kalayaan to avoid EDSA traffic to QC http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=200articleid=785069 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com I don't need a map! I have the GPS. Never need a map again, thank you - Car lost on Route 66, Radiator Springs (Cars) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] World Bank and Open Geo-data for Development
Hi All, There was some discussion here a couple months ago about the World Bank signing a partnership with Google. This has changed a bit and yesterday they posted on their blog saying World Bank supports citizen-mapping efforts that give users free access to the map data they create. (1) I think this is really exciting for OSM, some of us have already been working with the World Bank for a while. I wrote a post on HOT's blog about my feelings on it (2) as did Development Seed (3). Clearly it is a really exciting time for the project. Best, -Kate (1) http://blogs.worldbank.org/insidetheweb/maps-for-open-development (2) http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2012-03-19_the_world_bank_and_open_maps_for_development_im_excited (3) http://developmentseed.org/blog/2012/mar/19/world-bank-open-geo-data/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Way-with-only-one-single-node-tp5581022p5581022.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history Since it takes at least two points to define a line, a way with only one node would be zero units long, and effectively nonexistent. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
John F. Eldredge wrote ThomasB lt;toba0211@gt; wrote: I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history Since it takes at least two points to define a line, a way with only one node would be zero units long, and effectively nonexistent. Follow my link and you see, that what you call nonexistent does exist in OSM. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Way-with-only-one-single-node-tp5581023p5581079.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
ThomasB toba0...@yahoo.de wrote: John F. Eldredge wrote ThomasB lt;toba0211@gt; wrote: I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history Since it takes at least two points to define a line, a way with only one node would be zero units long, and effectively nonexistent. Follow my link and you see, that what you call nonexistent does exist in OSM. That is why I stated effectively nonexistent. If the rendering matches the data, it would render as a point, not as a line. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
On 20.03.2012 20:46, John F. Eldredge wrote: ThomasBtoba0...@yahoo.de wrote: I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history Since it takes at least two points to define a line, a way with only one node would be zero units long, and effectively nonexistent. The API has not problem with ways having only a single node. Also having the same node multiple times is no problem from the point of the API. Some editors create these ways. The most prominent one is Potlatch. The Ticket is open since two years. xybot trys to correct some of the problems until a bugfix is made in potlatch. https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2501 We had the topic a while ago on the german list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2012-March/093681.html A much longer while ago I had deleted all ways having no nodes at all. Not sure if more of them exist now. Stephan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
At 2012-03-20 12:38, ThomasB wrote: I am wondering how a way with only one node can exist in the database. I have deleted it but how many still exist? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154820504/history It is, indeed, deleted. See the upper right corner of the page. As to how it got to exist, I expect that it is up to editors (client software) to enforce that a way has more than one node, not the database itself. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
Stephan Knauss wrote: Some editors create these ways. The most prominent one is Potlatch. The Ticket is open since two years. xybot trys to correct some of the problems until a bugfix is made in potlatch. xybot does not help its cause by having the same ticket for Potlatch 1 and Potlatch 2 (which are entirely different codebases and have different components in trac). When someone identifies reliable steps to reproduce in P2, we try and fix it and indeed have done in some cases IIRC. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Way-with-only-one-single-node-tp5581023p5581263.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: xybot does not help its cause by having the same ticket for Potlatch 1 and Potlatch 2 (which are entirely different codebases and have different components in trac). When someone identifies reliable steps to reproduce in P2, we try and fix it and indeed have done in some cases IIRC. Hi Richard, I noticed recently I don't think Potlatch 2 actually has any code to explicitly detect 1-length ways and do something about them (or I looked in the wrong place). One thing we could add (in addition to trying to fix bugs in the various places 1-length ways could be created) would be a general filter at save time that prevents any 1-length ways being sent back to the database. What do you think? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Start des deutschen WikiProjekts Cleanup
Am 19.03.2012 07:33, schrieb Ronnie Soak: Bevor deutsche Uebersetzungen von wichtigen Konzepten und Tags gar nicht existieren (oder nicht vernuenftig verlinkt sind) brauchen wir ueber kontroversen beim Inhalt gar nicht diskutieren. Hi Ronnie, jo, dem hatte ich in der Form schon zugestimmt. Vermutlich habe ich das Anliegen des Projekts aufgrund der verwendeten Sprache etwas missverstanden. Dennoch bleibe ich auch für neu zu übersetzende Seiten auf dem Standpunkt: Keine Übersetzung ist besser als eine falsche oder grob ungenaue Übersetzung. Gerade für Mapper, die der englischen Sprache nicht mächtig sind, und demnach im Falle eines Disputs wenig Chancen haben mitzureden, übernimmt der Übersetzende große Verantwortung. Je nach Umfang der Daten, die aufgrund einer nicht tragfähigen Übersetzung (was das ist, entscheidet die Zukunft..) in die DB wandern, kann das Resultat sein: - unterschiedliche Interpretation des gleichen (engl.) tags in unterschiedlichen Sprachräumen - Notwendigkeit, Daten umzutaggen Mir ging es nur darum, darauf hinzuweisen. Klar muss man die Sache an sich voranbringen. LG Christian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Start des deutschen WikiProjekts Cleanup
Am 19.03.2012 10:20, schrieb Wolfgang: Dazu sollte auch die Struktur des Wiki überdacht werden. Ein Anfänger, der nicht in diesen Strukturen zuhause ist, hat erst mal ein Problem, überhaupt Informationen zu finden. Der nahezu einzige Weg dazu ist die Suche nach Stichwörtern. Wenn man aus der text- (Buch-)gebundenen Welt kommt, ist man es gewohnt, Inhaltsverzeichnissen folgen zu können. Hierzu sei erwähnt, dass Software teilweise mit diesen Strukturen eng verheiratet ist. Zum Vorteil der Nutzer existiert in JOSM beispielsweise eine kontextgebundene Hilfe: * F1 auf selektiertem Text im Tag-Dialog, oder * Rechtsklick Kontextmenü benutzen, um die jeweilige OSM-Wiki-Seite zum Tag aufzurufen Es spricht natürlich sonst nichts dagegen, neue Zugangswege in diese Strukturen zu schaffen. LG Christian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Fehlermeldungen bei nicht gefundenen Tiles im Server
On 20.03.2012 20:56, o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: Hat einer eine Idee wie man dem System noch beibringen könnte nicht immer eine Fehlermeldung im Logfile auszugeben ? Da solltest du mal in die Anleitung deines Webservers schauen. Die verbreitetsten nennen sich Apache, IIS oder nginx. Je nach dem funktioniert das ein klein wenig anders. Google hilft bestimmt auch weiter... Stephan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Schnell noch ein Frühlingsputz
Hi ! bevor am Wochenende die Messe ist können wir vielleicht noch schnell einwenig die Bugs aufräumen. http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=13lat=53.87157lon=10.69019layers=B0T Da sind noch einige enthalten die wohl nicht mehr aktiv sind. Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Schnell noch ein Frühlingsputz
Hallo, Am Dienstag, 20. März 2012 21:45:18 schrieb o...@tappenbeck.net: Hi ! bevor am Wochenende die Messe ist können wir vielleicht noch schnell einwenig die Bugs aufräumen. http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=13lat=53.87157lon=10.690 19layers=B0T Da sind noch einige enthalten die wohl nicht mehr aktiv sind. hmmm, die stammen anscheinend fast alle vom user Lübeck... Gruß, Wolfgang ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OpenPOIMap.ch freigeschaltet!
Liebe Leute Gerade rechtzeitig zur FOSSGIS 2012 wurde die experimentelle Webmapping Applikation OpenPOIMap freigeschaltet! OpenPOIMap befasst sich mit der Visualisierung von Point-of-Interests aus OpenStreetMap-Daten sowie mit deren Integration in andere Systeme. Mit OpenPOIMap kann man: * POIs visualisieren und interaktiv abfragen (= Tab 'Home') - auch solche, die nicht auf Mapnik oder Spezialkarten dargestellt werden. * POIs herunterladen (= Tab 'Download'), zur Nutzung in GPS/Navis oder sonstwie lokal. * POIs als Webservice (WFS) nutzen (= Tab 'Webservice'). Neuartig sind dabei u.a. die Infoboxen zur interaktiven Abfrage von beliebigen POIs (vgl. Examples). Dazu kommt TagFinder (= Tab 'TagFinder'), eine einfache aber intelligente Suche nach Tags (z.B. Schloss). Die Applikation umfasst zurzeit die Schweiz und die Daten werden täglich aktualisiert (jeweils frühmorgens). Testet http://openpoimap.ch/ ! Wir freuen uns über jedes Feedback! Grüsse nach Dessau! -- Stefan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Schnell noch ein Frühlingsputz
Hi ! das eine schließt das andere nicht aus. Kommt eben viel rum und trägt auch ein. Sieht manches erst später in der Karte. Gruß Jan .-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Lizenzwechsel beginnt am 27. März !!!!!
siehe hierzu http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=15922 gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Karten-Fehler in einer Wiki-Seite
Ist ja wohl nicht sooo neu, dass osmarender seinen Dienst eingestellt hat, oder? Hab die Seite gefixt. Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] errore xsltproc
Il 03/19/2012 12:24 PM, emmexx scrisse: Cercando di usare una procedura xsl su un file osm (il veneto) ottengo un errore che credo sia dovuto al fatto che il file e' molto grande (quasi 2 GB). Ho fatto alcuni esperimenti per cercare di venirne a capo. Ho provato ad eseguire la stessa procedura su un netbook usando una distribuzione live e il pc e' andato in crash :-( Sul mio pc ho creato un nuovo file di swap da 20 GB. Controllando con top l'utilizzo dello swap durante l'esecuzione della procedura, si vede che la procedura va in errore al raggiungimento dei 2GB di swap. Credo quindi che si tratti di un errore/limite di xsltproc e/o di libxml. Qui mi sa che siamo gia' OT da un pezzo... ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] stampare cartina in scala con reticolo utm
Maperitive da la possibilità di stampare il reticolo geografico, non kilometrico, e offre hillshading. Volker On 20 March 2012 06:52, Cascafico Giovanni cascaf...@gmail.com wrote: Un anno fa cercavo anch'io una cosa del genere, Maperitive era perfetto... tranne che per il reticolo UTM. Passai a QGIS che invece non offre la pappa pronta, ma hai il controllo su tutto. Poi chissà, controllerei: magari adesso Maperitive ha pre il reticoo kilometrico Il 19/03/12, franco93itfranco9...@gmail.com ha scritto: si possono stampare delle cartine dai dati osm in scala 1:25000 e con reticolo utm? vorrei qualcosa simile a come si vede su http://hikebikemap.de con la mappa cycle map e il layer hillshading ciao ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Sono spariti dei percorsi...
Buon giorno a tutti, sono Massi di Vaiano e sono mappatore nella Val di Bisenzio in Provincia di Prato, stamattina mi sono accorto che alcuni percorsi sono spariti, ed ho visto che qualcuno (o Mikele1971 o Colasurf) hanno lavorato nella zona. Ora, siccome io non so come si fa a ripristinare i dati o comunque cosa si deve fare in questi casi, sono a chiedere se qualcuno mi può illuminare sulla questione, grazie. Il percorso che si perso é qui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.007592lon=11.144989zoom=18layers=M come si vede bene la strada che collega il ponte alla Rocca Cerbaia é sparita. Saluti a tutti e grazie per il chiarimento. Massi di Vaiano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Tool per creare polyline
Mi servirebbe un tool che mi permetta di disegnare sulla mappa una polyline ed esportarla per il successivo utilizzo, ad esempio, in osmosis. grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problemi stazioni ferroviarie
Altro utente che fa la stessa cosa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/markusin :-/ 2012/3/13 Alex nyr...@gmail.com: 2012/3/13 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com: Oggi ho guardato un po' di stazioni sulla Torino - Aosta - Pre-Saint-Didier sempre mappate da: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/glappy1981 Ho notato che la stazione di Hone (AO) è posizionata in modo completamente errato, addirittura nel comune di Bard a mezza collina: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10740625 Anche a Villeneuve la stazione sembra posizionata a casaccio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10739107 Inizio a pensare che i POI siano stati messi a cacchio. Forse sarebbe bene iniziare a prendere in considerazione la possibilità di una cancellazione massiva. +1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] linee di faglia e vulcani dormienti o attivi
1)Come si fa a segnalare le linee di faglia? 2) Una amica ha fatto una tesi e ha tutto il mappario delle linee di faglia regionali in file come fare a riportarlo, è utile? 3) Come si segnala un vulcano? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problemi stazioni ferroviarie
Oggi sono particolarmente depresso. Ho trovato un altro nuovo mapper che ha iniziato a mappare e ha iniziato molto male: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/0xff2/edits Strade tracciate grossolanamente senza alcun riferimento, modifiche a strade già tracciate bene peggiorandole... 2012/3/20 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com: Altro utente che fa la stessa cosa: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/markusin :-/ 2012/3/13 Alex nyr...@gmail.com: 2012/3/13 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com: Oggi ho guardato un po' di stazioni sulla Torino - Aosta - Pre-Saint-Didier sempre mappate da: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/glappy1981 Ho notato che la stazione di Hone (AO) è posizionata in modo completamente errato, addirittura nel comune di Bard a mezza collina: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10740625 Anche a Villeneuve la stazione sembra posizionata a casaccio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10739107 Inizio a pensare che i POI siano stati messi a cacchio. Forse sarebbe bene iniziare a prendere in considerazione la possibilità di una cancellazione massiva. +1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sono spariti dei percorsi...
Ora, siccome io non so come si fa a ripristinare i dati o comunque cosa si deve fare in questi casi, sono a chiedere se qualcuno mi può illuminare sulla questione, grazie. Il percorso che si perso é qui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.007592lon=11.144989zoom=18layers=M come si vede bene la strada che collega il ponte alla Rocca Cerbaia é sparita. in Potlach 1 (ancora selezionabile dal menù che compare se ti fermi per un po' sulla linguetta edit del sito principale) premendo il tasto h ti mostra tutte le geometrie cancellate e le puoi ripristinare. Bisognerebbe capire chi è l'utente che ha combinato il guaio in modo da controllare che non abbia fatto altri vandalismi, nel qual caso sarebbe meglio ripristinare il changeset relativo con lo strumento incluso in josm. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] errore xsltproc
Il 19 marzo 2012 13:24, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto: Devo recuperare i nodi di una relazione. [] Per una cosa del genere potresti usare stx (guarda http://joost.sourceforge.net/ ). Pero' mi sai che fai prima a farti un parser sax... -- * Matteo Gottardi | matg...@tin.it * ICQ UIN 20381372 * Linux - the choice of a GNU generation * GPG Fingerprint: * B9EE 108F 52C8 D50C B667 B1F2 AB56 8A01 BA3D 36A1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] errore xsltproc
2012/3/20 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Controllando con top l'utilizzo dello swap durante l'esecuzione della procedura, si vede che la procedura va in errore al raggiungimento dei 2GB di swap. Credo quindi che si tratti di un errore/limite di xsltproc e/o di libxml. Che processore hai e come hai compilato il kernel? Se hai un processore a 32 bit lo spazio di memoria indirizzabile da un singolo processo è 2gb o 3gb a seconda di come hai compilato il kernel, anche se hai molto più swap. Per vedere benefici dovresti avere un processore a 64bit e un kernel a 64bit Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sono spariti dei percorsi...
Il 20 marzo 2012 10:34, Geom. Massimiliano Mattei massimili...@studiobam.net ha scritto: [] Ora, siccome io non so come si fa a ripristinare i dati o comunque cosa si deve fare in questi casi, sono a chiedere se qualcuno mi può illuminare sulla questione, grazie. Ciao, il modo più semplice per recuperare oggetti cancellati è usare potlatch1. Premi 'U', aspetta un po' che carichi le way cancellate, seleziona quella che vuoi ripristinare e clicca su Clicca per sbloccare. Puoi trovare maggiori informazioni su http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Undoing_Deletions -- * Matteo Gottardi | matg...@tin.it * ICQ UIN 20381372 * Linux - the choice of a GNU generation * GPG Fingerprint: * B9EE 108F 52C8 D50C B667 B1F2 AB56 8A01 BA3D 36A1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] errore xsltproc
Il 03/20/2012 12:28 PM, Matteo Gottardi scrisse: Il 19 marzo 2012 13:24, emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it ha scritto: Devo recuperare i nodi di una relazione. [] Per una cosa del genere potresti usare stx (guarda http://joost.sourceforge.net/ ). Pero' mi sai che fai prima a farti un parser sax... Non credo. ;-) Comunque ho installato qualcosa di simile, Xalan. E' l'equivalente di xsltproc ed usa le librerie sax2 xercesc, le stesse usate da joost. Sino ad ora non e' andato in errore, la ventola ed il disco non sbuffano, ram e swap sono normalissimi. Vediamo se arriva alla fine... grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] errore xsltproc
Il 03/20/2012 12:28 PM, Federico Cozzi scrisse: Che processore hai e come hai compilato il kernel? Ho un processore che sarebbe il caso di cambiare, insieme al resto del notebook. ;-) Ma sono affezionato e non ho voglia di perdere settimane a reinstallare e riconfigurare tutto per bene. Comunque il processore e' un celeron 530 @ 1.73GHz Il kernel e' uno di quelli originali di slackware 12.1 Se hai un processore a 32 bit lo spazio di memoria indirizzabile da un singolo processo è 2gb o 3gb a seconda di come hai compilato il kernel, anche se hai molto più swap. Non avevo pensato a questo fatto. Nel frattempo ho fatto una prova anche con un vecchio file della regione lombardia, piu' piccolo di quello del veneto (1,1 GB) ed e' addirittura andato in segmentation fault. Anche xmllint ha lo stesso problema. Deve essere il modo in cui e' stata fatta la libreria libxml. Per vedere benefici dovresti avere un processore a 64bit e un kernel a 64bit Appena mi faccio coraggio e vado ad acquistare un nuovo notebook! :-) Come ho scritto in ml, Xalan e xercesc sembrano funzionare. grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:41, Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com wrote: Oggi sono particolarmente depresso. Ho trovato un altro nuovo mapper che ha iniziato a mappare e ha iniziato molto male: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/0xff2/edits Strade tracciate grossolanamente senza alcun riferimento, modifiche a strade già tracciate bene peggiorandole... A me sembra solo che stia emergendo uno dei limiti di OSM: l'anarchia. Senza nessun revisionatore, con possibilità di fare tutto da parte di chiunque, queste sono cose che con l'incremento degli utenti possono solo aumentare. Sbagliatissimo essere un'elite, ma trovo altrettanto errato che tutti possano fare tutto. -- Cià Cristiano / Sky One Home: http://www.skyone.it (itinerari in moto e non solo) Pensieri: http://blog.skyone.it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Donazione alla OSM Foundation da parte di ESRI
http://www.esri.com/news/releases/12-1qtr/esri-donation-supports-collaboration-with-openstreetmap-community.html ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: Re: taggare distributori
Bene quindi vuol dire che tutte le stazioni dei distributori (amenity=fuel) non possono eaaere rappresentate come aree, se ho ben capitose. E se voglio rappresentarlo come area ci sono alternative o l'unica soluzione è quella che hai spiegato tu? Tutti i benzinai si possono mappare senza problemi in OSM, basta mettere il tag amenity=fuel Tutto il resto è un problema del attuale stile di mapnik, facilmente risolvibile con accesso allo stile (altrimenti si deve fare una richiesta nel sistema trac) Ciao,martin___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
+1 gm. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] importare in josm da fotocopie
grazie è proprio quello che serviva ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
Il 20 marzo 2012 16:36, Sky One sky...@skyone.it ha scritto: A me sembra solo che stia emergendo uno dei limiti di OSM: l'anarchia. Senza nessun revisionatore, con possibilità di fare tutto da parte di chiunque, queste sono cose che con l'incremento degli utenti possono solo aumentare. Sbagliatissimo essere un'elite, ma trovo altrettanto errato che tutti possano fare tutto. concordo, per ora la soluzione è che gli utenti più esperti controllino le proprie zone... -- Cià Cristiano / Sky One Home: http://www.skyone.it (itinerari in moto e non solo) Pensieri: http://blog.skyone.it -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
Basandomi sulla mia propria esperienza di neofita, quello che manca a OSM in tanti posti è una organizzazione al livello territoriale. Tipo eventi locali, incontri informali o formali. Scrivere un messaggio a uno che ha commesso un errore è tipicamente meno bello che di incontrale la persona e di affrontare queste difficoltà in una situazione informale. Pere esempio conosco solo un co-mappatore locale di persona. Volker On 20 March 2012 20:38, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com wrote: Il 20 marzo 2012 16:36, Sky One sky...@skyone.it ha scritto: A me sembra solo che stia emergendo uno dei limiti di OSM: l'anarchia. Senza nessun revisionatore, con possibilità di fare tutto da parte di chiunque, queste sono cose che con l'incremento degli utenti possono solo aumentare. Sbagliatissimo essere un'elite, ma trovo altrettanto errato che tutti possano fare tutto. concordo, per ora la soluzione è che gli utenti più esperti controllino le proprie zone... -- Cià Cristiano / Sky One Home: http://www.skyone.it (itinerari in moto e non solo) Pensieri: http://blog.skyone.it -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Volker SCHMIDT Via Vecchia 18/ter 35127 Padova Italy mailto:vosc...@gmail.com office phone: +39-049-829-5977 office fax +39-049-8700718 home phone: +39-049-851519 personal mobile: +39-340-1427105 skype: volker.schmidt ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
Non è la soluzione: è il workaround. Non scala bene perché man mano che openstreetmap diventa più popolare aumentano anche i nuovi mapper e questi saranno molti di più di quelli esperti per essere controllati in modo efficace senza l'introduzione di nuove regole. Ciao, Andrea. Il 20/03/12, Luca Delucchilucadel...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 20 marzo 2012 16:36, Sky One sky...@skyone.it ha scritto: A me sembra solo che stia emergendo uno dei limiti di OSM: l'anarchia. Senza nessun revisionatore, con possibilità di fare tutto da parte di chiunque, queste sono cose che con l'incremento degli utenti possono solo aumentare. Sbagliatissimo essere un'elite, ma trovo altrettanto errato che tutti possano fare tutto. concordo, per ora la soluzione è che gli utenti più esperti controllino le proprie zone... -- Cià Cristiano / Sky One Home: http://www.skyone.it (itinerari in moto e non solo) Pensieri: http://blog.skyone.it -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Inviato dal mio dispositivo mobile ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Variante sp 299 prato e romagnano sesia
Buonasera, 'viaggiando' in osm sembrerebbe che manchi la circonvallazione est di prato sesia e romagnano sesia ... eppure ricordo di averla percorsa circa un anno fa. E' aperta al traffico ? Oppure e' un problema di rendering sul telefonino ? Grazie ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Update: Nomi con spazi a San Donà di Piave
Messaggio originale Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Nomi con spazi a San Don di Piave Data: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:15:28 +0100 Mittente: Giuliano giuli...@zamboni.pro Rispondi-a: giuli...@zamboni.pro CC: openstreetmap list - italiano talk-it@openstreetmap.org Il 10/03/2012 20:47, Daniele Forsi ha scritto: Tempo fa un altro osmer mi aveva segnalato lo stesso problema e aveva contattato il newbie che in buona fede aveva cambiato in nomi alle strade. Sarebbe da capire se lo stesso, non sarebbe pi buona fede se lo stesso facilmente in buonafede perch si iscritto il 7 dicembre e ha fatto modifiche fino al 7 gennaio e poi pi nulla Francamente da un paio di mesi che mi dedico poco a OSM e non avevo guardato se quell'utente aveva corretto le sue modifiche sbagliate e infatti non lo ha fatto. Propongo due sistemi di ripristino: - metodo drastico ( ma non mi piace): revert delle sue modifiche; - metodo pi selettivo: si individuano le way dove a corretto i nomi e si riportano allo stato precedente. Il metodo che conosco "h" history con Potlatch 1. Per vedo che non pi possibile utilizzarlo. Esiste qualcosa di simile in JOSM? Ciao Giuliano Ciao a tutti, il newbie che aveva erroneamente inserito spazi nei nomi delle vie ha ricominciato ad inserire modifiche a San Don spostando gli edifici che abbiamo importato dalla CTR del veneto (da quello che ho capito ha preso come riferimento le foto di Bing). Ovviamente questo non corretto ma credo che non si possa considerare vandalismo. Questo messaggio ha il solo scopo di informarvi che gli ho inviato un messaggio per informarlo che le sue modifiche non rispettano le nostre convenzioni di mappatura, suggerendogli di iscriversi alle ML e dandogli la mia disponibilit ad affiancarlo. Quindi non serve, per ora, farne un problema. Aspetterei di vedere se mi risponde o se mi ignora come credo abbia fatto con chi gli ha scritto le volte precedenti, e se prosegue nelle sue modifiche anarchiche. Ciao Giuliano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] stampare cartina in scala con reticolo utm
E' possibile creare facilmente il reticolo UTM (o di qualsiasi altro sistema di coordinate) con relative etichette; importare terreno digitale (SRTM) e generare le curve di livello con quota etichettata sopra (per lo shading è più semplice Maperitive); gestire le stampe controllando facilmente dimensioni del foglio, rotazioni, risoluzione, scala, legenda ecc. Il giorno 20 marzo 2012 19:53, franco93it franco9...@gmail.com ha scritto: ho provato maperitive e ha tutto quello che voglio tranne il reticolo utm con qgis si possono inserire reticolo utm, hillshading e curve di livello con la quota delle curve principali stampata? con qgis e maperitive si può creare una cartina in modo da stamparla in una scala esatta come 1:25000 e non in base allo zoom con cui si visualizza sul pc? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
Secondo me, il problema principale per i nuovi utenti è potlatch, per quanto semplice può svolgere il suo lavoro egregiamente al pari di Josm, ha il difetto enorme che fa creare percorsi sconnessi senza però avere un controllo errori interno. Sono quasi certo che se si va a vedere Osm Inspector la sezione del Routing, la grande maggioranza degli errori arriva da lì. Tu come nuovo utente pensi di fare giusto, ogni volta che becco una zona con un utente nuovo c'ho la mia mail precompilata scritta cordialmente dicendogli di andare a vedere il tutorial in italiano per evitare di commettere troppi errori, in genere mi rispondono anche loro cordialmente e gli errori di decimano. Il -10/01/-28163 20:59, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: Basandomi sulla mia propria esperienza di neofita, quello che manca a OSM in tanti posti è una organizzazione al livello territoriale. Tipo eventi locali, incontri informali o formali. Scrivere un messaggio a uno che ha commesso un errore è tipicamente meno bello che di incontrale la persona e di affrontare queste difficoltà in una situazione informale. Pere esempio conosco solo un co-mappatore locale di persona. Volker ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Fwd: [Rebuild] Progress on rebuild plan
ecco una prima versione del piano di switch alla ODBL, previsto per la prossima settimana. da leggere, impattera' la possibilità di fare editing al DB. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 00:41 Subject: [Rebuild] Progress on rebuild plan To: rebu...@openstreetmap.org Dear rebuilders, The rebuild plan... http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Rebuild_Plan Has been extensively updated based on a lot of useful input from Matt. Highlights of the update: * A Help Needed section - read it and consider offering your services * More details on interdependencies of tasks (kept as lightweight as possible) * A summary of the go-live impact of each task * Scheduling information against which we can measure progress * Tasks broken out further, most notably to reflect the fact that it is now anticipated to apply a period of read-only API (to speed up the overall process) * Inclusion of a Risks section Once again, your help would be very much appreciated, Dermot -- -- Igaühel on siin oma laul ja ma oma ei leiagi üles ___ Rebuild mailing list rebu...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/rebuild -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Nuovi utenti pasticcioni? [era: Problemi stazioni ferroviarie]
2012/3/20 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Il 20 marzo 2012 16:36, Sky One sky...@skyone.it ha scritto: A me sembra solo che stia emergendo uno dei limiti di OSM: l'anarchia. Senza nessun revisionatore, con possibilità di fare tutto da parte di chiunque, queste sono cose che con l'incremento degli utenti possono solo aumentare. Sbagliatissimo essere un'elite, ma trovo altrettanto errato che tutti possano fare tutto. concordo, per ora la soluzione è che gli utenti più esperti controllino le proprie zone... con la crescita del progetto, sono aumentate le difficolta' di editing e la compessita' degli strumenti utilizzati. ad esempio: recentemente mi sono rimesso a mettere mano ad alcune relation create da me tre anni fa, e sono rimasto stordito dalle mille opzioni degli editor. piu' il modello dati si complica, piu' gli strumenti si complicano. piu' sono possibili gli errori. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Donazione alla OSM Foundation da parte di ESRI
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 16:41, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.esri.com/news/releases/12-1qtr/esri-donation-supports-collaboration-with-openstreetmap-community.html interessante notare che l'ammontare della donazione non è stato divulgato pubblicamente. :) -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. er der nogen (måske jonas fra rasher?) der har erfaring med at køre en tile server? og som måske kan sige noget om hvor meget cpu/disk/båndbredte det kræver? er mapnik den eneste fornuftige løsning? Med venlig hilsen Emil Tin IT- og Processpecialist Cykelsekretariatet KØBENHAVNS KOMMUNE Teknik- og Miljøforvaltningen Center for Trafik Islands Brygge 37 Vær. 118 Postboks 450 2300 København S Telefon +45 3366 3433 Mobil +45 2972 3788 Email z...@tmf.kk.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
interessant, tak for det! kan se at tilemill bruger mapnik og carto -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Soren Johannessen [mailto:soren.johannes...@gmail.com] Sendt: 20. marts 2012 09:55 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere? Der er også MapBox med TileMill softwaren- hvor man konfiger layout ala CSS måde http://mapbox.com/tilemill/ og tiles syntaks virker til OpenLayers og til Leaflet JS biblioteket MapBox kan også tilbyde at hoste jeres tiles - ved ikke prisen /Søren Johannessen 2012/3/20 Emil Tin z...@tmf.kk.dk: til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. er der nogen (måske jonas fra rasher?) der har erfaring med at køre en tile server? og som måske kan sige noget om hvor meget cpu/disk/båndbredte det kræver? er mapnik den eneste fornuftige løsning? Med venlig hilsen Emil Tin IT- og Processpecialist Cykelsekretariatet KØBENHAVNS KOMMUNE Teknik- og Miljøforvaltningen Center for Trafik Islands Brygge 37 Vær. 118 Postboks 450 2300 København S Telefon +45 3366 3433 Mobil +45 2972 3788 Email z...@tmf.kk.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
Emil Tin skrev: til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. Måske kunne man snakke med folkene i viskort.dk Det kunne være interessant, hvis der kunne laves en fælles offentlig tileserver i danmark. - Jørgen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
On 20.03.2012 11:08, Jørgen Elgaard Larsen wrote: Emil Tin skrev: til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. Måske kunne man snakke med folkene i viskort.dk Det kunne være interessant, hvis der kunne laves en fælles offentlig tileserver i danmark. - Jørgen Det kommer mig for, at der var diskussion om, at DR overvejede at lave én i forbindelse med, at de ville bruge OSM - men det er måske bare her, det har været diskuteret? Det kunne jo være et interessante samarbejde. -Morten __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://syntaktisk.dk * mj...@syntaktisk.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
Tak for svarene. At af hovedformålene for os ville være at have et kort der er specielt designet til danske cyklister, og som samtidig kan styles som vi ønsker, fx i forhold til at vise cykelsuperstier, grønne ruter, etc. Men også rent farvemæssigt osv. Hvem ved, det kan jo være det ville være fedt med mørk baggrund, etc. Hvor meget trafik tror i man skal regne med? Har man brug for et content delivery network? (a la Akamai) VH Emil ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
On 20-03-2012 09:44, Emil Tin wrote: til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. er der nogen (måske jonas fra rasher?) der har erfaring med at køre en tile server? og som måske kan sige noget om hvor meget cpu/disk/båndbredte det kræver? er mapnik den eneste fornuftige løsning? Jeg kan sige lidt, men når det så er sagt så har jeg ikke forsøgt mig med andre løsninger end den jeg er end med, så jeg er ikke så velinformeret, men jeg kan da beskrive mit setup. Det hele kører på en virtual server som tilhører Peter Brodersen. Den har masser CPU kraft, men meget begrænset mængde RAM (1 GB tror jeg). Det er reelt ikke nok RAM - det er konstant en kamp at få det hele til at køre i den plads, men det går lige netop (det er samme server der også hoster Fugro tiles, hvilket også bruger en del RAM). OSM data importeres i en Postgresql/PostGIS database med osm2pgsql. Databasen bliver holdt up to date med et script der benytter Osmosis til at hente de seneste ændringer fra OSMs hourly diffs, som herefter bliver fodret til osm2pgsql, der opdaterer databasen. osm2pgsql spytter en liste af opdaterede tiles ud, som så bruges til at markere tiles som forældede. Tiles bliver renderet af servicen renderd, der bruger mapnik. Det er en del af mod_tile pakken, som er et Apache modul der sørger for at generere tiles on demand. De fleste af de scripts jeg bruger kan hentes fra http://osm.rasher.dk/pub/ - især keepup.sh scriptet er af interesse. Hvis der mangler noget så sig endelig til. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
On 20-03-2012 12:50, Emil Tin wrote: mange tak jonas! kan du sige noget om hvor meget båndbredde en sådan tile server sluger? Så skal vi nok have fat i Peter Brodersen. Jeg ved ikke om det er noget han har styr på. Det kan nu nok alligevel ikke sammenlignes med de brugere I vil få til sådan et kort. Hverken antallet af brugere end måden de bruger kortet på. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
nej det er klart at det ville være anderledes, men det kunne nu alligevel være interessant at høre lidt om, også for at kunne se det i forhold til det server setup'et. vh emil -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] Sendt: 20. marts 2012 13:16 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere? On 20-03-2012 12:50, Emil Tin wrote: mange tak jonas! kan du sige noget om hvor meget båndbredde en sådan tile server sluger? Så skal vi nok have fat i Peter Brodersen. Jeg ved ikke om det er noget han har styr på. Det kan nu nok alligevel ikke sammenlignes med de brugere I vil få til sådan et kort. Hverken antallet af brugere end måden de bruger kortet på. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
det ville nok som minimum være region hovedstaden. (dvs rund regnet halvdelen af sjælland) jeg forestiller mig at vi ville have alle tiles liggende på disk, frem for at genere dem om the fly, og så updatere dem løbende. det er sådan jeg forestiller mig de almindelige osm tiles fungerer... eller? Med venlig hilsen Emil Tin IT- og Processpecialist Cykelsekretariatet KØBENHAVNS KOMMUNE Teknik- og Miljøforvaltningen Center for Trafik Islands Brygge 37 Vær. 118 Postboks 450 2300 København S Telefon +45 3366 3433 Mobil +45 2972 3788 Email z...@tmf.kk.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jonas Häggqvist [mailto:ras...@rasher.dk] Sendt: 20. marts 2012 13:33 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere? On 20-03-2012 13:14, Emil Tin wrote: tak! hvor mange GB fylder tile'sne? hvor mange MB bliver det hentet om dagen? Med det forbehold at de tiles jeg laver på osm.rasher.dk er meget simple, og ikke komplette kort-tiles, så fylder tiles overraskende lidt, idet de bliver genereret on-demand. Jeg tror maksimalt tile mappen har fyldt et par GB, så med en moderne disk kommer I næppe i problemer. Vil det være begrænset til Københavns kommune? -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
On 20-03-2012 13:38, Emil Tin wrote: det ville nok som minimum være region hovedstaden. (dvs rund regnet halvdelen af sjælland) jeg forestiller mig at vi ville have alle tiles liggende på disk, frem for at genere dem om the fly, og så updatere dem løbende. det er sådan jeg forestiller mig de almindelige osm tiles fungerer... eller? mod_tile fungerer sådan at den først ser om der er brugbare tiles på disken, ellers genererer den dem og gemmer på disken. Resultatet er at man ikke skal til at pre-generere en masse, og derved ikke bruger unødig diskplads på en masse tiles som ingen alligevel kigger på. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] erfaringer med tile servere?
Hej Morten Simon Poole skrev på dev listen [1] at det var en god ide at køre vacuum mindst en gang om ugen pga. den måde osm2pgsql opdaterer på. Jeg mener at auto vacuum er slået som default i 9.1, det kan være en af årsagerne til at det nu går hurtigere og det passer også meget godt med at det går bedre lige efter re-import. Jeg ved ikke om du så risikerer at den kører vacuum for ofte (f.eks. samtidigt med import) - måske kan du få bedre performance ved slå auto vacuum fra og så f.eks. kun køre den en gang i døgnet. [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-March/024595.html /Jais 2012/3/20 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.dk On 20-03-2012 09:44, Emil Tin wrote: til vores kommende cykelruteplanlægger overvejer vi køre en tile server. er der nogen (måske jonas fra rasher?) der har erfaring med at køre en tile server? og som måske kan sige noget om hvor meget cpu/disk/båndbredte det kræver? er mapnik den eneste fornuftige løsning? Jeg kan sige lidt, men når det så er sagt så har jeg ikke forsøgt mig med andre løsninger end den jeg er end med, så jeg er ikke så velinformeret, men jeg kan da beskrive mit setup. Det hele kører på en virtual server som tilhører Peter Brodersen. Den har masser CPU kraft, men meget begrænset mængde RAM (1 GB tror jeg). Det er reelt ikke nok RAM - det er konstant en kamp at få det hele til at køre i den plads, men det går lige netop (det er samme server der også hoster Fugro tiles, hvilket også bruger en del RAM). Jeg har kørt med rashers setup i et års tid uden problemer, men på det sidste (efter jeg opgraderede osm2pgsql til seneste version) har jeg har _store_ problemer med at få opdateringerne i keepup.sh scriptet til at følge med. Som rasher skriver, hentes der hourly diffs, men på min maskine (som iflg. pbro er kraftigere end hans, og har 3 Gb RAM) tager jobbet op til to en halv time at køre en times opdateringer :-( Jeg prøver for tiden på at finde ud af hvor problemet ligger, mistanken er foreløbig Postgresql. Når jeg netop har importeret et nyt planet dump, tager keepup ca. 3 minutter, men efterhånden bliver den langsommere og langsommere. Det hjalp en hel del at opgradere til postgresql 9.1, men problemet er altså forsvundet. Hvis nogen har et hint vil jeg være taknemmelig. -- mok0 __**_ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-dkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-dk] API nedetid
API (og diverse andet) er nede de næste 2-3 timer. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mar_2012_DB_server_downtime -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-se] Kartskåpet: Generalstabskartan och häradskartor
En diskussion inom Wikipedia gjorde mig uppmärksam på att Stockholms universitetsbibliotek har gjort högupplösta inscanningar (600 dpi) av generalstabskartan (topografiska) och häradskartor (ekonomiska) fritt tillgängliga i öppna filformat, http://kartavdelningen.sub.su.se/kartrummet/kartskapet.htm En typisk häradskarta är 17 MB i JPEG (18624 × 13664 pixels). Med detta skulle man kunna bygga ett lager i OpenStreetMap / OpenLayers. Är det någon som vet hur man gör och/eller har tid och resurser att få detta gjort? Detta har väl gjorts tidigare för engelska kartor. Kan vi få åka snålskjuts på deras server och kunnande? Jag vet att jag var imponerad av NPE-inscanningen när den var ny, men nu tycker jag webblösningen ser lite föråldrad ut, http://www.npemap.org.uk/ Ett par relaterade sidor på OSM-wikin, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Popular_Edition -- Lars Aronsson (l...@aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-ec] OSM i Ecuador
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/03/12 18:14, Gustavo Jarrín wrote: Gustavo Hehe Denle la bienvenida a Guttorm. Habla algo de español, pero vive en Noruega. Piensa venir a hacer algún proyecto en Riobamba, proyecto que implica OSM y mapas. Parece que va a solicitar financiamiento de algun fondo en Noruega. La pregunta era: Ja, du høyrer nok frå meg. Kvar er Ecuadorianske OSMarar mest aktive? Tilsvarande e-postliste som k...@nuug.no mailto:k...@nuug.no+ o sea, ¿Dónde estan más activos los OSMianos ecuatorianos? a lo que respondí que en esta lista :D Arno -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9pGqgACgkQEMIGVCc8BjAzyQCg13Gr2eeOnKVna0yHouy1agQD GsEAnA2ZbsbTeV32/LexivSzycKoUFT3 =TfwE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ec mailing list Talk-ec@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ec
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Nueva Version 19-03-12: arregla letras desde CAT y carvia, destinos y usos por superficie y config nuevo.
El 20 de marzo de 2012 17:09, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: En que municipio te está pasando? Ahora mismo debería de rellenarlo. Mucho ojo, que hay carreteras que no tienen datos en catastro, básicamente todas las nacionales y regionales no tienen metadatos. Me pasa en el municipio Valle de Santa Ana de Badajoz (¿te lo envio?). Es el municipio más pequeño de la provincia, el -ejes lo haces en 10 segundos. Con debería de rellenarlo, ¿a que te refieres?. ¿Que debería aparecer más etiquetas en la calles?. No he comprobado todos los ejes, pero si que hay algunos que no aparece la etiqueta name y evidentemente he supuesto que esa información no estaría en catastro. En otro orden de cosas, en -ejes es irrelevante si pilla el CAT o no (fallo mío) pues esos datos se leen del archivo Carvia.SHP. O.K. Sólo lo decía a título informativo. El 20 de marzo de 2012 17:06, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. Sigo con mis pruebas de *-ejes* Me funciona a la primera y me genera un archivo de ejes con tres etiquetas (source, source:date y name). La codificación de caracteres también está arreglado. Sin embargo no estoy seguro si puede estar dejando algo atrás porque en el proceso no aparece el mensaje Leyendo archivo .CAT urbano y Leyendo archivo .CAT rústico, que si aparecen si lanzo la conversión sin el -ejes. *matias@portatil:~/Escritorio/catastro$ java -jar cat2osm.jar valle/config -ejes* *[2012-03-20 16:54:46.759] Iniciando Cat2Osm con el archivo de configuración para exportar únicamente EJES.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.449] Leyendo EJES Urbano.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.492] Ejecutando proyeccion de los shapefiles UREJES.SHP: ogr2ogr -s_srs +init=epsg:25829 +wktext -t_srs EPSG:4326 /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/UREJES.SHP /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/06_148_UA_2012-01-21_SHF/EJES/EJES.SHP * *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.617] Leyendo EJES Rustico.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.633] Ejecutando proyeccion de los shapefiles RUEJES.SHP: ogr2ogr -s_srs +init=epsg:25829 +wktext -t_srs EPSG:4326 /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/RUEJES.SHP /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/06_148_RA_2012-01-21_SHF/EJES/EJES.SHP * *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.342] Terminado de leer los archivos UREJES.SHP.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.377] Terminado de leer los archivos RUEJES.SHP.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.378] Calculando usos de las parcelas.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.378] Simplificando vias.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.41] Escribiendo nodos 0 horas, 0 minutos, 0 segundos..* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.602] Escribiendo ways* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.686] Escribiendo relations* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.855] Escribiendo el archivo resultado* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.88] Terminado* ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-eshttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Nueva Version 19-03-12: arregla letras desde CAT y carvia, destinos y usos por superficie y config nuevo.
Pasamelo y te lo compruebo al vuelo. De todas formas busca otros ejes a ver si NINGUNO tiene nombre pues es posible que sean carreteras generales y cosas de ese pelo que no están en catastro. De hecho, en el municipio que voy a usar de ejemplo en la charla de girona hay más carreteras en OSM de las que salen por catastro :S (aunque las de catastro tienen pinta de estar mejor situadas, la imagen de satélite en esa zona está muy distorsionada) El 20 de marzo de 2012 17:16, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: El 20 de marzo de 2012 17:09, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: En que municipio te está pasando? Ahora mismo debería de rellenarlo. Mucho ojo, que hay carreteras que no tienen datos en catastro, básicamente todas las nacionales y regionales no tienen metadatos. Me pasa en el municipio Valle de Santa Ana de Badajoz (¿te lo envio?). Es el municipio más pequeño de la provincia, el -ejes lo haces en 10 segundos. Con debería de rellenarlo, ¿a que te refieres?. ¿Que debería aparecer más etiquetas en la calles?. No he comprobado todos los ejes, pero si que hay algunos que no aparece la etiqueta name y evidentemente he supuesto que esa información no estaría en catastro. En otro orden de cosas, en -ejes es irrelevante si pilla el CAT o no (fallo mío) pues esos datos se leen del archivo Carvia.SHP. O.K. Sólo lo decía a título informativo. El 20 de marzo de 2012 17:06, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola. Sigo con mis pruebas de *-ejes* Me funciona a la primera y me genera un archivo de ejes con tres etiquetas (source, source:date y name). La codificación de caracteres también está arreglado. Sin embargo no estoy seguro si puede estar dejando algo atrás porque en el proceso no aparece el mensaje Leyendo archivo .CAT urbano y Leyendo archivo .CAT rústico, que si aparecen si lanzo la conversión sin el -ejes. *matias@portatil:~/Escritorio/catastro$ java -jar cat2osm.jar valle/config -ejes* *[2012-03-20 16:54:46.759] Iniciando Cat2Osm con el archivo de configuración para exportar únicamente EJES.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.449] Leyendo EJES Urbano.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.492] Ejecutando proyeccion de los shapefiles UREJES.SHP: ogr2ogr -s_srs +init=epsg:25829 +wktext -t_srs EPSG:4326 /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/UREJES.SHP /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/06_148_UA_2012-01-21_SHF/EJES/EJES.SHP * *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.617] Leyendo EJES Rustico.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:47.633] Ejecutando proyeccion de los shapefiles RUEJES.SHP: ogr2ogr -s_srs +init=epsg:25829 +wktext -t_srs EPSG:4326 /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/RUEJES.SHP /home/matias/Escritorio/catastro/valle/06_148_RA_2012-01-21_SHF/EJES/EJES.SHP * *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.342] Terminado de leer los archivos UREJES.SHP.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.377] Terminado de leer los archivos RUEJES.SHP.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.378] Calculando usos de las parcelas.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:50.378] Simplificando vias.* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.41] Escribiendo nodos 0 horas, 0 minutos, 0 segundos..* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.602] Escribiendo ways* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.686] Escribiendo relations* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.855] Escribiendo el archivo resultado* *[2012-03-20 16:54:53.88] Terminado* ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-eshttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [CATASTRO] dos casos de éxito con cat2osm
No se en que hilo poner que a mi la anterior versión me ha ejecutado Santander en 78 horas sin tirar ningún error y el resultado parece que está bien. Agustin On 19/03/2012, at 09:33, Carlos Dávila cdavi...@orangecorreo.es wrote: Añadiendo esos parámetros procesa los ejes en una sola ejecución y añade las etiquetas source, source:date y type. Por cierto, que todas las vías importadas tienen type=route. Esa etiqueta sólo se usa para relaciones y no se debe usar en vías individuales [1]. En todo caso yo pondría un highway=road+fixme=Comprobar tipo de vía Los tres parámetros los,ponía la antigua versión también. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:type El 19/03/12 09:03, Ander Pijoan escribió: Descargad un nuevo archivo de configuración que incluyen 2 parámetros mas que por eso está cascando. Los parámetros nuevos son estos dos: # Si se quiere delimitar una fecha desde la cual coger los datos segun su ano de construccion (Formato MMDD) # Tomara los shapes que se han construido a partir de esa fecha # Ejemeplo: FechaDesde=20050101 FechaConstruDesde=0 # Si se quiere delimitar una fecha hasta la cual coger los datos segun su ano de construccion (Formato MMDD) # Tomara los shapes que se han construido hasta esta fecha # Ejemeplo: FechaHasta=20060101 FechaConstruHasta= Archivos de muestra paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/config paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/configZaragoza paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/configAldeasecaDeAlba paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/configMurcia paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/configMedioCudeyo paginaspersonales.deusto.es/cruz.borges/configLierganes Entre hoy y mañana de cara a las jornadas GIS de Girona os subiremos una nueva versión con los usos y destinos asignados en función del que tiene más área. Saludos. El 18 de marzo de 2012 15:30, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández cruz.bor...@deusto.es escribió: Es una estimación de lo que le queda por terminar en base en cuanto ha tardado en realizar un porcentaje de la simplificación de vías. El 17 de marzo de 2012 19:49, José Manuel Díaz Soriano cbu...@gmail.com escribió: Alguien me dice qué es el proceso: Progreso X% Tiempo estimado: X horas... es que me pone una barbaridad de tiempo tanto el en el portátil como en el servidor (i5 8gb de ram). Un saludo. El 17 de marzo de 2012 17:57, Agustin Diez Castillo agustind...@gmail.com escribió: A mi me pasa lo mismo que a Matías, con la versión 20120309 tres etiquetas para los ejes y pos municipios son diferentes. Agustin On 17/03/2012, at 16:24, Matías Taborda Barroso taborda.barr...@gmail.com wrote: Buenas. Según esto, a mi tampoco me lee los archivos .CAT. Pero dudo que sea por los municipios, he probado con 5 distintos y en todos el resultado es el mismo. Además es curioso que ayer con la versión cat2osm 9-03-2012, hacía el proceso a la primera y obtenía un archivo con tres etiquetas (source, source:date y type=route). Hoy con la nueva versión (16-3-2012), falla el primer intento y a la segunda el archivo obtenido no contiene ninguna etiqueta. De momento sólo me ocurre cuando pongo el modificador -ejes. Si lo lanzo sin modificador o con -usos por ejemplo, si me sale el mensaje de leyendo los archivos .CAT ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Ander Pijoan Lamas Ingeniero Técnico en Informática de Gestión Universidad de Deusto Contacto: Email: ander.pij...@deusto.es Móvil: +34 664471228 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx Instale LibreOffice desde http://es.libreoffice.org/descarga/ LibreOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. LibreOffice está en continuo desarrollo y no tendrá que pagar por las nuevas versiones. ___ Talk-es mailing list
[Talk-es] [catastro] Nombre de paraje en parcelas rurales
Hola a todos. En la Puebla de Don Fadrique, Granada, observo que el campo nombre de paraje (caracteres del 265 al 295 de los registros de tipo 11), incluido en muchas parcelas rurales dentro del fichero CAT, es valioso: son nombres de terrenos locales que no aparecen (o aparecen con errores) en el nomenclator del IGN. ¿No creéis que sería bueno incluirlo en la importación? En dicho caso, ¿con qué etiqueta? Desgraciadamente, para liarlo todo aún un poquito más, dicho nombre aparece a veces repetido en varias parcelas, por lo que el nombre del paraje debería ponerse a una superrelación que uniera las parcelas... -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] 7503146
Ich gehe davon aus, dass ich der letzte bin, dem das aufgefallen ist, aber 7503146 hat die neue Lizenz akzeptiert: Vereinbarung für Mitwirkende: Vor 2 Tage akzeptiert 1) Yeah! 2) Danke! vg, Martin ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Release von OSMapTuner
Hallo OSM-Community, nun ist es soweit: Das Forscherteam von Salzburg Research hat eine seiner neuesten Arbeiten veröffentlicht: OSMapTuner – ein neuer mobiler Editor für die Bearbeitung von OSM-Daten. OSMapTuner ist speziell für die Erfassung und Bearbeitung von Tags und deren Values vor Ort konzipiert. OSMapTuner ist als kostenlose App für Android Smartphones und Tablet PCs ab sofort verfügbar. Mehr Infos findet Ihr auf unserer Homepage unter http://osmaptuner.salzburgresearch.at/ Über Feedback, Bug-Reporting usw. würden wir uns freuen und bitten Euch das OpenStreetMap Forum zu benutzen: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=54 Wir wünschen Euch viel Spaß beim „Tunen“ der OpenStreetMap! Euer OSMapTuner-Team ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] 7503146
Guten Tag! Das sind good news! Hab mich schon gewundert, warum die OSMI Ansicht so dürr geworden ist. Vielleicht schaffen wir es jetzt noch, Nord-Tirol zu remappen (Osttirol wird ja leider zum Großteil verschwinden). Ach ja, hat jemand eine Ahnung, was *genau* die türkisen Punkte/Linien in OSMI bedeuten? (nodes/ways in relation) Es gibt da ein großes Waldgebiet, dass so erscheint, und ich habe bereits die Relation neu erstellt, und alle Members überprüft, aber es bleibt türkis. -- Bis bald, Boris ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] 7503146
On 20.03.12 09:10, Martin Vonwald wrote: Ich gehe davon aus, dass ich der letzte bin, dem das aufgefallen ist, aber 7503146 hat die neue Lizenz akzeptiert: Vereinbarung für Mitwirkende: Vor 2 Tage akzeptiert Fein, vielen Dank dafür! Und danke auch für die Info! Jetzt müßten wir rex noch erreichen, er hat speziell im Westen Wiens viel gemacht... Servus, Andreas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] 7503146
On 20.03.12 10:25, Boris Cornet wrote: Ach ja, hat jemand eine Ahnung, was *genau* die türkisen Punkte/Linien in OSMI bedeuten? (nodes/ways in relation) Von einem Nichtzustimmer zu einer Relation hinzugefügt/weggenommen. Offenbar kann es sein, dass es braucht, bis das im OSMI angezeigt wird. Andreseits habe ich Situationen wo die Objekte schon vor Monaten wieder aus der Relation entfernt wurden und trotzdem noch türkis aufscheinen. Ich vermute da einen Bug... Servus, Andreas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Release von OSMapTuner
Hallo! Sorry für die Fehlmeldung, er hat es nicht gefunden, weil es min. Android 2.2 braucht. Ich hab aber nur 2.1. WINK MIT DEM ZAUNPFAHL !!! -- Liebe Grüße, Boris ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Release von OSMapTuner
Wird's auch eine iOS Version geben? Hannes 2012/3/20 OSMapTuner osmaptu...@salzburgresearch.at: Hallo OSM-Community, nun ist es soweit: Das Forscherteam von Salzburg Research hat eine seiner neuesten Arbeiten veröffentlicht: OSMapTuner – ein neuer mobiler Editor für die Bearbeitung von OSM-Daten. OSMapTuner ist speziell für die Erfassung und Bearbeitung von Tags und deren Values vor Ort konzipiert. OSMapTuner ist als kostenlose App für Android Smartphones und Tablet PCs ab sofort verfügbar. Mehr Infos findet Ihr auf unserer Homepage unter http://osmaptuner.salzburgresearch.at/ Über Feedback, Bug-Reporting usw. würden wir uns freuen und bitten Euch das OpenStreetMap Forum zu benutzen: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=54 Wir wünschen Euch viel Spaß beim „Tunen“ der OpenStreetMap! Euer OSMapTuner-Team ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-pt] API em segunda mão
Viva, Um servidor bem simpático, que pode ser usado no JOSM ou Merkaartor : um API fornecido pela comunidade francesa. http://api.openstreetmap.fr/api Tem uma copia da base de dados OSM (agora mundial) sincronizados com os minutes diff (só tem uns minutosinhos de atraso sobre a base principal). Com menos tráfego, este servidor permite descarregar áreas muita mais grandes e muita mais depressa, aliviando o API OSM. Quanto ao envio, esta API transforma-se em proxy enviando tudo para o servidor principal. Isto também pode dar jeito, para ter sempre dados e continuar a mapear, mesmo quando a base principal tem que ser parada (como hoje). Francisco ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-lv] Izdrukāta OSM karte
Maperitive ļoti labi renderē, viegli pielāgot savām vajadzībām. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Pēteris Daknis peteris.dak...@gmail.comwrote: Dotajā piemērā PDF ir tas ko vajag un par ko es runāju. Par vektordatiem - ir varianti? P. 2012. gada 19. marts 23:05 Pēteris Brūns peteris.br...@gmail.comrakstīja: ** Cik smuki, cik nesmuki un ko saprot ar vektordatiem. Šiten (http://maposmatic.org/jobs/39479) var dabūt svg un var plosīt, ja tas ir tas, ko gribās (neesmu pētījis cik smuki). Kaut ko var izdarīt ar QuantumGIS u.c. tūļiem, bet ja gribās ļoti smuki tāpat jākombinē ar kaut kādu pēcapstrādāšanu (GIMP,..), GMT, bet atkarībā no vēlmēm tas viss var prasīt labu sagatavošanos importējot un darbam sagatavojot OSM datus. -- pb On 2012.03.19. 22:42, Pēteris Daknis wrote: Jā es arī tieši nesen (drukātājs būdams) iedomājos, vai var dabūt arā smukus vektordatus. P. 2012. gada 19. marts 19:00 Gasha ga...@pie-dabas.net rakstīja: 2) No gatavajiem risinājumiem īsti labs neviens nelikās. Kautkādus karšu gabalus mēģināju renderēt, bet interese apsīka, kad izdrukāju no viking. Konkrētajai vajadzībai pietika. G On 03/19/2012 06:54 PM, Papuass wrote: Sveiki! Man jums 2 jautājumi: 1) Vai šobrīd kaut kur Latvijā ir manīta publiski izstādīta izdrukāta karte? Piemēram tajā pašā Līgatnē, kur ir atsaucīgā pašvaldība nav? 2) Kādam ir pieredze ar kādiem skaistiem renderētājiem, lai OSM karti izmantotu dekoratīvi informatīviem nolūkiem? Mārtiņš ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- Pēteris Daknis +371 29207870 ___ Talk-lv mailing listTalk-lv@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- Pēteris Daknis +371 29207870 ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: highway=service with access=no or access=private then. Many service roads aren't open to the public. If the road is there and is a service road, it's mappable. I'd like to add, though, that there is a problem with verifiability here. If you can't access a highway and it's not visible on aerial imagery then how can verify it's actually there? And how will we keep the data up to date? Therefore I'd be rather cautious with private ways for which our only source is an import. Many/Most roads and paths won't have this issue, as they are either verifiable from an aerial image or by casual observation. We have the same verifiability problem in areas that are either remote or lack OSM mappers -- they may be infrequently updated, if at all, and how do we know if they are there now? I'm not a big supporter of imports, but if you are going to use them, you should use and verify all of them, not just some bits. I'm not sure if there is a key/tag for unverified, but it might be worth looking at. Gerald ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM
On 12-03-19 21:52 , Harald Kliems wrote: I'd like to add, though, that there is a problem with verifiability here. If you can't access a highway and it's not visible on aerial imagery then how can verify it's actually there? They're definitely not visible on orthophotos. Most of rural Norfolk is a blur. cheers, Stewart ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a big supporter of imports, but if you are going to use them, you should use and verify all of them, not just some bits. I'm not sure if there is a key/tag for unverified, but it might be worth looking at. What's the use of the import then? If you have to go and track every road, and walk around the shore of every lake, and wander down every creek, then you'll have GPS data. Most of Canada will be a blank slate as we do not have enough bodies to capture all of the data manually. The whole concept of importing data was to help fill in the areas where there are no OSM mappers. -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:21 AM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Gerald A geraldabli...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a big supporter of imports, but if you are going to use them, you should use and verify all of them, not just some bits. I'm not sure if there is a key/tag for unverified, but it might be worth looking at. What's the use of the import then? If you have to go and track every road, and walk around the shore of every lake, and wander down every creek, then you'll have GPS data. Most of Canada will be a blank slate as we do not have enough bodies to capture all of the data manually. I can't speak for Gerald, but my point was more about verifiability than about verifiedness. That is, about the question whether a way can _in principle_ be verified vs. whether it actually _has_ been verified. The latter we will have to live with in large parts of Canada; the former I have reservations about. And according to Stewart this is a problem for many of the ways in question here. Harald. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Re : Administrative Boundary
Daniel, In parallel of of the excellent work you are doing for these imports, I suggest that we pursue the discussion on other aspects since the discussion was going in all directions in 2009-2010. We must have some reflexions on how to import this data properly. We now have a very good map of Canada but Nominatim Searches are limited since in general (at least for Quebec) there are no administrative limits other then provinces. I think that we all agree it should be a priority to define these administrative limits and assure that we have efficient Nominatim searches. This information and existing boundaries (ie. provinces, international boundaries) should be treated carefully to assure that Nominatim searches work properly. We already lost some shorelines. Lets not loose our borderlines! One aspect I think of is when a way overlaps existing ways. I dont know if this has been discussed before. When a way describing the limits of a town or a region overlaps other levels (ie. province, international borders), do we keep this way independant or integrate with the other information ? And it would be better I think to keep administrative boundaries information separated from other Canvec file imports. Pierre Béland De : Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca À : infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr; talk-ca talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 20 mars 2012 8h11 Objet : RE: [Talk-ca] Re : Administrative Boundary Pierre, I do not usually ask the same question several times. As It is the first time I see such a difference between an authoritative content and Osm Wiki, I think it worth the trouble to ask twice before processing the entire country! So, as Paul and you are saying the Osm Wiki classification is OK and I didn't received any comment from other, I'll proceed as the Wiki says. Best regards, Daniel From: infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr [mailto:infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr] Sent: March 19, 2012 22:22 To: talk-ca Subject: [Talk-ca] Re : Administrative Boundary The wiki values seems consistent for Quebec and I think that we can avoid to restart this discussion again. Pierre Béland De : Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca Envoyé le : Lundi 19 mars 2012 14h34 In Openstreetmap wiki, the admin_level were set to 5,6 and 8 respectively If it is a documented consensus, I'll keep the values of the wiki. If not, I'll use the the values from GeoBase. Comments? Daniel ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Wind farm access roads that really shouldn't be in OSM
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak for Gerald, but my point was more about verifiability than about verifiedness. That is, about the question whether a way can _in principle_ be verified vs. whether it actually _has_ been verified. The latter we will have to live with in large parts of Canada; the former I have reservations about. And according to Stewart this is a problem for many of the ways in question here. So if there's a locked gate, and not all OSM mappers can get access, do we remove the roads from the map? We should look at getting a nice big graphic to put on the map that says Here be Dragons! Obviously I'm being a little silly... There are areas that are privately owned, and not accessible to the general public. The Shell Scotford Refinery is a good example: http://osm.org/go/WPrCMJzv- The imagery available for the area is not detailed enough to be able to draw roads, nor even verify where they are. Imagery that is available via sources that can't be used for OSM does not show all of the new expansion area. I have however driven through the area with my GPS, and tracked the roads (and in some cases projected where the roads will be once construction has finished). How many other OSM mappers are going to gain access to the refinery and map out the roads to ensure the accuracy of my mapping? Do my edits stand on their own merit? Now on the other hand, to backup your side of the argument have a look at this way that I ran into today: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/32377502 If you compare OSM and Google Maps, you can see that both have this road shown, which looks like part of the national road grid. Google goes even further to draw more roads in a grid immediately north of this road. http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=14lat=52.58831lon=-111.2836layers=B0TFFF In reality, there's a gate across the road, and it sure looks like a farmyard in reality. The grid of roads that Google Maps shows is actually the access roads between pens in an old cattle feedlot. Someone obviously was copying roads from an aerial photo and didn't realize what they were looking at. So, this goes to add additional weight behind the verifiability of roads in the OSM database. I wouldn't suggest removing roads that are privately owned from the database, nor removing roads that are not accessible to the general public either. What would be preferable would be to have the roads where access is not available to the public tagged as private, and if gates are in place, put the gates on the map. This is the type of ground-truthing that government boys would like to see come back out of the OSM project. If there were gates on the map, and the road marked as private, I wouldn't have tried to use it as a shortcut to save myself a 20 mile round about road trip. -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-cz] Import chráněných území z EEA
Jan Kučera wrote: Ahojte, bohužel jsem při pokusu o import další části chr. území narazil na softwarové problémy - JOSM nebyl schopen dokončit import cca 12000 uzlů najednou (zkošeno několikrát). Možná to bylo tím, že jsem rozdělil import na části po cca 2000 uzlech. Kdosi mi pak na help.osm.org doporučil importovat pouze v celku, tedy vše najednou, nicméně to jsem zkoušel v úplných začátcích a úspěšnost byla takřka 0%. Zkusil jsem skript bulk_upload_sax.py (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bulk_upload.py) na Xubuntu 11.10 - ten se mi choval pro změnu zase dosti šíleně a z mého .osm souboru o 12k uzlech vykouzlil dva changesety po cca 25k uzlech (viz http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kozuch-EEA/edits - pravděpodobně budu muset revertovat...) ... nechápu, kde ty uzly vzal. Nevíte někdo, co s tím? Jaký SW používáte pro importy? Zdravím, Kozuch UIR-ZSJ jsem importoval pomocí vlastní pythoní knihovny [1], ale to byly changesety řádově o stovkách uzlů (a pokud si dobře vzpomínám, tak upload trval klidně i minuty). Ono je v podstatě jedno, jaký software se použije. To podstatné je, že musí udržet otevřené HTTP spojení dostatečně dlouho než to API přežvýká. Imho by bylo nejrozumější to uploadovat po menších částech, ale jednotlivé části stále jako diff upload. Menších tak, aby jednotlivé uploady proběhly v rozumném čase, tzn. řádově asi ty stovky nodů. Jako diff upload z toho důvodu, aby se v mapě nejdřív neobjevily jen samotné uzly, do kterých by mohl někdo hrábnout a způsobit tak selhání uploadu cest. Rozdělení na menší části už nesouvisí s uploadem... otázkou je, jakou strukturu mají data? Patří každý uzel jen do jedné cesty (krom koncových)? Je možné to nějak rozsekat (teď neřeším technické provedení, jen možnost)? Petr Morávek aka Xificurk [1] https://github.com/xificurk/osmapis attachment: xificurk.vcf signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-talk-fr] Rencontre IRL à Paris 11 avril
Salut les parisiens, vous êtes chauds pour une IRL ? Je propose - au hasard ^^ - le *mercredi 11 avril **au Hall's beer Tavern à partir de 18h* (68 rue saint denis http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.861587lon=2.349264zoom=18layers=M ). En gros je vous donne rendez-vous un mois après la dernières IRL, même lieu, même heure, mêmes pommes ^^ Partants ? -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Le service sur api.openstreetmap.fr s'agrandi lui aussi
Le mardi 20 mars 2012 09:47:45, Christian Quest a écrit : As-tu mis une limite plus restreinte qu'avant ? J'ai des erreurs de chargement sur des zones un peu larges que je n'avais pas avant. C'est tout configuré comme avant (sauf la couverture) et après plusieurs essais je n'ai rien remarqué d'anormal. Tu peux me donner un exemple de requête/URL qui pose problème ? -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Le service sur api.openstreetmap.fr s'agrandi lui aussi
Ca m'est arrivé en chargeant la bbox de Caen sous JOSM... oui, c'est un peu lourd... Tu as mis quoi comme limite au fait ? Le 20 mars 2012 10:25, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org a écrit : Le mardi 20 mars 2012 09:47:45, Christian Quest a écrit : As-tu mis une limite plus restreinte qu'avant ? J'ai des erreurs de chargement sur des zones un peu larges que je n'avais pas avant. C'est tout configuré comme avant (sauf la couverture) et après plusieurs essais je n'ai rien remarqué d'anormal. Tu peux me donner un exemple de requête/URL qui pose problème ? -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] beta.letuffe.org prends sa retraite
De : sly (sylvain letuffe) Mais non, je déconne ! Ouf. avec un titre pareil, j'ai presque eu peur :-) il nous reviens plus beau (enfin pas vraiment) et surtout plus puissant. Grand merci à vous tous vincent Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !
Pour une modif par-ci par là, c'est pas mal, mais pour plus c'est très lourd à ce que j'ai rapidement vu. Le 20 mars 2012 09:48, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Google Map Maker est sacrément bien fait : c'est simple, efficace, sans flash ... c'est un peu l'interface qu'on attendait depuis toujours pour potlatch ! On peut utiliser des fonctions avancées, suivre les modifs pour son quartier ... franchement c'est du bon boulot. Maintenant c'est à nous de faire au moins aussi bien voire mieux pour abaisser le niveau technique exigé pour les nouveaux contributeurs. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !
tout à fait. je parle de conquérir le coeur des noobs ^^ Le 20 mars 2012 10:34, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Pour une modif par-ci par là, c'est pas mal, mais pour plus c'est très lourd à ce que j'ai rapidement vu. Le 20 mars 2012 09:48, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Google Map Maker est sacrément bien fait : c'est simple, efficace, sans flash ... c'est un peu l'interface qu'on attendait depuis toujours pour potlatch ! On peut utiliser des fonctions avancées, suivre les modifs pour son quartier ... franchement c'est du bon boulot. Maintenant c'est à nous de faire au moins aussi bien voire mieux pour abaisser le niveau technique exigé pour les nouveaux contributeurs. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !
Ca mérite un article sur osm.fr : pourquoi utiliser OSM plutôt que GMM. Je m'y colle. Il y a-t-il eu un lancement officiel de GMM en France ? -- Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr Le 20 mars 2012 10:34, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Pour une modif par-ci par là, c'est pas mal, mais pour plus c'est très lourd à ce que j'ai rapidement vu. Le 20 mars 2012 09:48, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Google Map Maker est sacrément bien fait : c'est simple, efficace, sans flash ... c'est un peu l'interface qu'on attendait depuis toujours pour potlatch ! On peut utiliser des fonctions avancées, suivre les modifs pour son quartier ... franchement c'est du bon boulot. Maintenant c'est à nous de faire au moins aussi bien voire mieux pour abaisser le niveau technique exigé pour les nouveaux contributeurs. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Google Map Maker arrive en France !
Le 20 mars 2012 11:14, Marc SIBERT m...@sibert.fr a écrit : Ca mérite un article sur osm.fr : pourquoi utiliser OSM plutôt que GMM. Je m'y colle. Il y a-t-il eu un lancement officiel de GMM en France ? http://googlefrance.blogspot.fr/2012/03/laissez-vous-seduire-par-google-map.html C. -- Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr Le 20 mars 2012 10:34, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Pour une modif par-ci par là, c'est pas mal, mais pour plus c'est très lourd à ce que j'ai rapidement vu. Le 20 mars 2012 09:48, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Google Map Maker est sacrément bien fait : c'est simple, efficace, sans flash ... c'est un peu l'interface qu'on attendait depuis toujours pour potlatch ! On peut utiliser des fonctions avancées, suivre les modifs pour son quartier ... franchement c'est du bon boulot. Maintenant c'est à nous de faire au moins aussi bien voire mieux pour abaisser le niveau technique exigé pour les nouveaux contributeurs. -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Cyrille. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Recherche d'un nouvel admin pour la mailing list
Le 20 mars 2012 09:55, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Ah ! Ca explique la vidange de ce matin avec les messages à pièce jointe ? ;) Le mieux serait peut être de passer le relais à une adresse générique d'OSM-FR ? Qu'en pensez-vous ? Je suis d'accord et me porte volontaire pour ce job. Cyrille. Le 20 mars 2012 09:35, Renaud Martinet kar...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, N'ayant plus vraiment le temps de suivre la liste et n'étant plus vraiment impliqué dans OSM depuis déjà pas mal de temps, je pense qu'il serait mieux pour tout le monde que je passe la main en ce qui concerne l'administration de talk-fr. En quelques mots, il s'agit essentiellement de gérer les messages posant problème (trop gros, en erreur, etc) ou les utilisateurs ne pouvant s'inscrire/se désinscrire, cela ne prend pas beaucoup de temps mais ce serait sûrement plus approprié que la personne s'en occupant soit active au niveau d'OSM. Si vous connaissez déjà Mailman, ce serait parfait. Dans l'idéal, je passerai la main à quelqu'un qui est déjà là depuis un moment. Cordialement, Renaud. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Cyrille. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
