[Talk-hr] Mikromapiranje raskrizja
Primijetio sam da neki korisnici, po mom mišljenju, previše detaljno crtaju raskrižja, na način da doslovno crtaju svaku traku kao posebnu liniju. Na većim križanjima je to OK, ali na manjim je nepotrebno kompliciranje i jučer je dovelo do greške u routingu. Evo primjer kako je izgledalo sporno križanje i što je jedan korisnik prigovorio: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45274949/Lose.png a ovako izgleda ispravljeno: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45274949/dobro.jpg Molim mišljenja. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Mikromapiranje raskrizja
Slažem se sa donjom slikom. Ucrtavanje kompliciranih traka ne dodaje puno informacije, a povećava potrebu za turn restrictionima. Dapače, na slici sa satelitskim snimkom mi se čini da je okomita cesta nepotrebno ucrtana sa dva puta, ali snimka nije dovoljno široka da vidim jel se trake možda odvajaju u zasebne putove izvan slike. Janko Dana 2. svibnja 2014. u 20:43 Ivan Delac ivan.ne...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Primijetio sam da neki korisnici, po mom mišljenju, previše detaljno crtaju raskrižja, na način da doslovno crtaju svaku traku kao posebnu liniju. Na većim križanjima je to OK, ali na manjim je nepotrebno kompliciranje i jučer je dovelo do greške u routingu. Evo primjer kako je izgledalo sporno križanje i što je jedan korisnik prigovorio: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45274949/Lose.png a ovako izgleda ispravljeno: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45274949/dobro.jpg Molim mišljenja. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [talk-ph] readysaster hackathon OSM talk
Oh yeah, Leaflet JS is always a mainstay if you're developing hybrid HTML5-based mobile apps and you want to display a map. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Overpass API and Overpass Turbo as you have mentioned in a separate email is probably the best OSM resource that developers can use. Of course they can also use the various routing APIs such as OSRM. Or use the Trimet trip planner software such as the one tried by the developers during last year's App Challenge. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:31 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, data.gov.ph is organizing a 2-day hacktahon event on May 10-11 labeled readysaster [0]. The organizers are looking for someone to talk about OSM and its potential for use in developing DRR related apps. The talk will be on May 10 before the invited participants to start hacking. Anybody interested? Any specific ideas/tools we should share? [0] http://data.gov.ph/events/readysaster/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] Strava - Routing problems
Strava has released a tool that shows the tracks of their users (cyclist, runners, etc.) The users can also indicate where the routing goes wrong. Here is an example http://labs.strava.com/routing-errors/#1000/16/4.01603/50.88423 near Denderhoutem. Some missing paths. Is there someone on this list that is familiar with that area ? regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing OpenStreetMap at Mapbox
2014-04-30 20:48 GMT+02:00 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: I feel that the attribution that you currently use provides insufficient recognition for OpenStreetMap. there was also a discussion one year ago on a similar topic (attribution by an icon instead by a text) to which I'd like to point: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-April/066802.html AFAIR that time this idea was not approved. cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial
From: Luis Villa [mailto:lvi...@wikimedia.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:09 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial Without going further into the details of the many drafting shortcomings of ODBL (which, to be clear, are partially my fault!) suffice to say that I think that the interactions of 6.0 and 2.2(c) are not well-defined, especially in jurisdictions where there is no applicable statutory law, and/or where applicable caselaw says there are no database rights. I view 6.0 as equivalent to 2.a.2 from CC 4.0 licenses, which state that you do not need to comply with the license where fair use or similar applies. In the ODbL case you might be dealing with a jurisdiction where fair use type rights don't exist because data-type licenses are only under contract law. I haven't seen this as a practical issue for three reasons: 1. The ODbL doesn't impose requirements in a number of use cases (4.5 and 6.2 most obviously), making it a moot point in those cases 2. Most of the interesting use cases wouldn't be fair use anyways, dealing with using most or all of the database for commercial purposes in a public manner 3. I live in BC, where was a case involving someone doing essentially what I do for OSM mapping and it was covered by copyright. The OSMF is in the UK, where database rights exist. I agree that in practice, courts are likely to find ways to work around it. But the EU CJ was quite explicit in BHB about comparing to the entire size of the dataset, so best not to rely on that as a primary tool. Something else that hasn't been touched on is the crowd-sourced nature of OSM and use of other databases. Regardless of the exact threshold for substantial, I can easily imagine a scenario where a sub-set of OSM is not a substantial part of OSM, but is entirely from a smaller third-party database and is a substantial part of that third-party database. I frankly don't have a clue how this would be considered. I'd expect the third-party database owner would have no problem suing in case of a license violation (e.g. failure to attribute), but could the OSMF? For that matter, how does this work with Wikipedia? Say a European Wikipedia contributor assembles a database and then inputs that into Wikipedia. How are those database rights treated? While I don't like the 100 feature reference (it seems awfully arbitrary to me, and small) it could be salvaged if one explained _and justified_ that in the common case, mapping 100 features is likely to represent a substantial investment of time, effort, etc., in gathering the data. I just don't know enough to know if that is doable. Is 100 features qualitatively substantial? I'd say, it depends. 100 place=village nodes with no other tags mapped from aerial imagery is probably not qualitatively substantial. 100 POIs tagged in great detail might be. Does the fact that mappers do not receive compensation from the OSMF influence what qualitatively substantial is? Does the small OSMF budget? ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] overpass api tips and tricks
Hi, Looking for hidden Overpass resources (other than the ones I saw below). IMO, overpass is one of the good ways to introduce OSM data to developers. Advance thanks for sharing your tips and tricks! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Language_Guide -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Hi
Has anyone ever thought of developing a program to compare street names from tiger to street names in osm? I know I've come across plenty of errors in which the street name is misspelled or completely wrong. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] overpass api tips and tricks
Generally, the Overpass API and Overpass Turbo documentation is enough for developers to understand. What they really need to know also is the OSM data model (nodes, ways, relations, tagging) in order to make the most out of Overpass. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:13 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Looking for hidden Overpass resources (other than the ones I saw below). IMO, overpass is one of the good ways to introduce OSM data to developers. Advance thanks for sharing your tips and tricks! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_turbo http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Language_Guide -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible character LRM in some website values
On 01-05-14 21:51, John Packer wrote: Solved! At least for now... Changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22071440 I suppose I hit the same problem as you, Glenn: JOSM wasn't recognizing that the data was changed. But that was because I removed these characters in the OSM file itself, not inside JOSM. The solution was to add the attribute action=modify to each object in the file before opening it in JOSM. (I did this with a VIM macro) I tried both methods, in josm itself and manually, but I lacked the knowledge on that action attribute. I'm still strugling with getting josm to recognise it. It's probably down to the java flavour (oracle vs openjdk). I'll verify on a VM this weekend to know for sure what is causing it. See followup: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9960 Tx for information Glenn ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TIGER to OSM comparison
On 5/2/2014 7:29 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Has anyone ever thought of developing a program to compare street names from tiger to street names in osm? I know I've come across plenty of errors in which the street name is misspelled or completely wrong. http://maproulette.org/battlegrid/ I'm not sure if it only compares geometry, or if it also compares names. It would be an easy platform to begin with to add a test for name comparison. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TIGER to OSM comparison
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 5/2/2014 7:29 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: Has anyone ever thought of developing a program to compare street names from tiger to street names in osm? I know I've come across plenty of errors in which the street name is misspelled or completely wrong. http://maproulette.org/battlegrid/ I'm not sure if it only compares geometry, or if it also compares names. It would be an easy platform to begin with to add a test for name comparison. Are you assuming the Tiger values are more accurate than what is in OSM? If so, rethink that. I have encountered numerous incorrect spellings in Tiger data when compared to street signs or plat maps. I have seen Tiger use 3 variations of spelling on different sections of the same street. It is also common for Tiger to have incorrectly labelled streets, putting a name on a nearby street rather than the correct one. I might use a Tiger value where there is no OSM entry, but would not replace an existing OSM value that differed from Tiger without a local survey. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Hi
Am 5/2/14 13:29 , schrieb Hans De Kryger: Has anyone ever thought of developing a program to compare street names from tiger to street names in osm? I know I've come across plenty of errors in which the street name is misspelled or completely wrong. In Germany we have a tool that compares street names in OSM to a simple List of names in a wiki page. http://regio-osm.de/ For Example Munich: http://regio-osm.de/listofstreets/evaluation?title=M%C3%BCnchencountry=Bundesrepublik%20Deutschland __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TIGER to OSM comparison
On 5/2/2014 11:32 AM, Murry McEntire wrote: Are you assuming the Tiger values are more accurate than what is in OSM? If so, rethink that. For armchair mapping, the only thing that might be safe is that new TIGER is more accurate than old TIGER. But any such TIGER comparison must not override a previous correction from a mapper (who should also remove the tiger:reviewed=no to help notify other mappers that the name is derived from a survey or local knowledge). For best results, name comparison should only flag differences against unedited or bot-edited TIGER ways. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Permission for names for Dublin Bus bus stops?
Hi Colm, Did a reply ever go back to Peter with regard to this? If they'd be willing to release the data under ODbL then that would be great. Rorym mentioned Public Domain, but I'd doubt they'd release it under that. Larry On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi, Peter Cranny is the project manager for the NTA Journey Planner. See e-mail exchange below. I did a lot of external testing on the stops and routes for the journey planner. Colm --- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead From: Peter Cranny To: Colm Moore Subject: RE: OpenStreetMap Hi Colm, This is the data set you need http://www.transportforireland.ie/transitData/PT_Data.html It is always as current as the NJP and is open data. There is some doubt as to the Re-Use of PSI Licence (link on the page) being suitable for Open Street Maps. If you find that this licence isn’t adequate we are happy to consider another licence that does suit the OSM community RGDS Peter Cranny Senior Transportation Planner National Transport Authority Dún Scéine Harcourt Lane, Dublin 2. Ireland From: Colm Moore To: Peter Cranny Subject: OpenStreetMap Hi, I've been editing OSM for the last few weeks, concentrating on railways, speed limits and land use. It gives an interesting insight into the maps part of the journey planner. There is a current query as to whether the Dublin Bus stops database can be used as a whole. On the one hand, it is proprietary information from Dublin Bus, but on the other, I understand the NTA can (has?) taken ownership of that data and it can be reused under the Re-Use of Public Sector Information regulations. You sent me a copy of the data you exported to Google Transit a while back. We would need the up to date information. Any advice or comments welcome. Thank you ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
[Talk-br] Fw: Correção
Amigos, em especial os residentes em Porto Alegre. Recebi a mensagem abaixo e como ando atarefado não estou tendo tempo de atender. Se alguém se habilita. Por favor. []s Marcio From: Marcos Nagelstein Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 1:39 PM To: Márcio Soares - GPS Info Subject: Re: Correção Márcio. Não sei como fazer mas na avenida Padre Cacique, aqui em porto alegre, conforme as últimas obras na via, a mesma terá duas vias, cortada no meio por um corredor de ônibus BRT. No mapa cocar, só consta uma faixa, não sei como fazer essa grande alteração, pois é uma via de + - uns 4 km. para isso creio que vc pode mexer com mais maestria. pelas imagens de satélite é possivel ver essas mudanças na via. Abs Marcos Nagelstein Repórter Fotográfico Fones: (55 51) 9901.7146 e (55 51) 2111.3142 mailto:marcos.nagelst...@gmail.com My profiles: Contact me: marcos.nagelstein marcos.nagelstein ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Importação de dados em Naviraí - MS
Olhei algumas objetos, e parecendo muito que fui importado. Tem tags muito críptico. Também ultimo atividade registrado e 2 meses atras. Aun Johnsen On Apr 30, 2014, at 21:17, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: O João achou esse changeset em Naviraí - MS: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19375895 Reparem nas informações dos objetos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/251151031 Enviei mensagem a ele (o autor dos dados) perguntando sobre a origem deles. Seria bom mais alguém também perguntar. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Importação de dados em Naviraí - MS
São tags mal convertidas do formato Polish. Não são tão crípticas assim. Em 30 de abril de 2014 21:30, Lists skipp...@gimnechiske.org escreveu: Olhei algumas objetos, e parecendo muito que fui importado. Tem tags muito críptico. Também ultimo atividade registrado e 2 meses atras. Aun Johnsen On Apr 30, 2014, at 21:17, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: O João achou esse changeset em Naviraí - MS: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19375895 Reparem nas informações dos objetos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/251151031 Enviei mensagem a ele (o autor dos dados) perguntando sobre a origem deles. Seria bom mais alguém também perguntar. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Fw: Correção
Se for esta aqui: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/209587901#map=18/-30.06784/-51.23660 já consta como duplicada. Em 2 de maio de 2014 14:15, thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br escreveu: Amigos, em especial os residentes em Porto Alegre. Recebi a mensagem abaixo e como ando atarefado não estou tendo tempo de atender. Se alguém se habilita. Por favor. []s Marcio *From:* Marcos Nagelstein marcos.nagelst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, May 2, 2014 1:39 PM *To:* Márcio Soares - GPS Info thunder...@gpsinfo.com.br *Subject:* Re: Correção Márcio. Não sei como fazer mas na avenida Padre Cacique, aqui em porto alegre, conforme as últimas obras na via, a mesma terá duas vias, cortada no meio por um corredor de ônibus BRT. No mapa cocar, só consta uma faixa, não sei como fazer essa grande alteração, pois é uma via de + - uns 4 km. para isso creio que vc pode mexer com mais maestria. pelas imagens de satélite é possivel ver essas mudanças na via. Abs *M* *arcos Nagelstein**Repórter Fotográfico* *Fones: (55 51) 9901.7146 e (55 51) **2111.3142 * mailto:marcos.nagelst...@gmail.com marcos.nagelst...@gmail.com My profiles: [image: Instagram] http://instagram.com/marcosnagelstein [image: Flickr] http://www.flickr.com/nagelstein [image: Blogger]http://marcosnagelstein.blogspot.com/ [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/nagelm [image: YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marcos+nagelsteinoq=marcos+nagelsteings_l=youtube.3..35i39.50.3282.0.3436.21.18.1.0.0.0.371.2863.4j6j4j3.17.0...0.0...1ac.1.r5ryF68eH3A Contact me: [image: Google Talk] marcos.nagelstein [image: Skype]marcos.nagelstein ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Restrição de conversão
chave e valor são reservadores de espaço para que você possa, OPCIONALMENTE, colocar mais tags/valores além das mínimas obrigatórias que você já colocou. Os membros da relação já estão lá (from, via e to). Criar relação monta o objeto que depois será enviado dentro do changeset. Em 2 de maio de 2014 13:24, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Tenho que preencher os campos chave,valor,membro de relação e criar relação?ou basta fazer o upload para adicionar esta restrição. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Primeiro contato e descrição do problema (geocode reverso BSB)
Olá, Acabei de me registrar aqui na lista, esta é minha primeira mensagem. Estou trabalhando em projetos bigdata e uma das minhas responsabilidades é o geocode reverso de milhares de endereços (centenas de milhares!). Meu problema é que muitos desses endereços são referências de kilometragem em rodovias, p. ex: BR357 km331, e claro, DF/Teresina/Palmas/GO, onde o sistema de endereçamento postal utilizado é o de quadra/lote ou lote/casa. Alguém aqui conhece alguma solução que consiga resolver o caso da referência em kilometros nas rodovias? Sei que algumas ferramentas consegue fazer interpolação linear no shapefile da rodovia, indicando uma aproximação linear da kilometragem. Esse algoritmo chama-se LRS (linear referencing system), tem alguns problemas ao não considerar a curvatura da terra, etc. Estou lendo a documentação do Nominatim mas não encontro nada relacionado a LRS. Quanto a DF/Palmas/TO/Teresina/GO onde alguns municípios (olhem Águas Lindas de Goiás), possuem um sistema no mínimo esquizofrênico de endereçamento postal, alguém já utilizou alguma ferramenta que conseguisse realizar geocode reverso com alguma precisão no parse do endereço? Obrigado desde já. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Importação de dados em Naviraí - MS
Nenhuma dessas tags faz sentido no OSM. Tratar de uma importação mal feita exige um pouco de criatividade. Reverter só deve ser feito quando a região tiver muita gente editando e a importação acabou de ser feita. Nos outros casos, o melhor tentar consertar. O próprio usuário pode fazer, se dissermos como fazer. Daí na próxima, ele evita o mesmo problema. Uma olhada rápida e me parece que a correção consiste em: - baixar os objetos dos changesets desse usuário (para cada changeset: JOSM extensão Reverter informar changeset Ctrl+Z) - remover as tags: marine, mp_type, nod1, nod2, nod3, nod4, nod5, nod6, roadid, routeparam (JOSM Ctrl+F várias vezes, cada uma com uma busca por uma tag diferente selecionar a tag no painel das tags remover a tag) 2014-05-02 15:11 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: São tags mal convertidas do formato Polish. Não são tão crípticas assim. Em 30 de abril de 2014 21:30, Lists skipp...@gimnechiske.org escreveu: Olhei algumas objetos, e parecendo muito que fui importado. Tem tags muito críptico. Também ultimo atividade registrado e 2 meses atras. Aun Johnsen On Apr 30, 2014, at 21:17, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com wrote: O João achou esse changeset em Naviraí - MS: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19375895 Reparem nas informações dos objetos: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/251151031 Enviei mensagem a ele (o autor dos dados) perguntando sobre a origem deles. Seria bom mais alguém também perguntar. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 Nullius in verba. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Atenção Mapeadores do DF
Erick no OSM Albuquerque (alb.anto...@gmail.com) Não tenho colaborado muito com o OSM, mas quero colaborar mais. No momento estou envolvido no desenvolvimento de uma aplicação web com OpenLayers. Abs Antonio ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Importação de dados em Naviraí - MS
Ele tinha me dito que: - O Mapa Municipal, obtera na prefeitura de Naviraí; - Editou os shapesfile e os converteu para .osm usando o GlobalMapper, upando estes. Parece que esqueci de passar essa informação a vocês. Mas passara o que após minha assinatura (abaixo). Alexandre Magno Em 1 de maio de 2014 01:20, Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros alexandre@gmail.com escreveu: Parte de conversação segue minha assinatura. No final da mensagem, ele pediu para eu repassar (autorização). Vou perguntar sobre o tal mapa municipal *atualizado*. Vou pedir para ele participar do fórum ou da lista talk-br. Vou apontar a ele esta mensagem no histórico da talk-br. Alexandre Magno *pdnzjr* 1 de Maio de 2014 às 03:48 On 2014-05-01 03:24:22 UTC Alexandre Magno wrote: On 2014-05-01 03:17:42 UTC pdnzjr wrote: é que eu editei os shapesfile e converti para osm usando o GlobalMapper, depois upei os arquivos. Talvez esta a diferença. Quais shapesfiles? Não entendo bem estas codificações. Nem eu. Atrapalha muito isto? A questão é se os dados não estão protegidos por direitos autorais. Peço que você interaja com a comunidade para dar e obter mais esclarecimentos. Nem sabia que tinha como corresponder com usuários Foi o seguinte: (Não entendo muito bem; só quis colaborar, rsrsrs) Vi um mapa municipal atualizado e o osm tinha poucas informações. Criei linhas onde não existia e foi formado as novas ruas e nomeando. Algumas para não ficarem sem nomes, tem algumas como caminho sem título, rua, e etc. Pensei em ir atualizando com o tempo, mas não sobrava tempo. Os editores que eu usei foram GpsMapEdit, Trackmaker (para criar os nós de roteamentos) e GlobalMapper para converter de .shp para .osm. Nem tive muita preocupação com codificaçãoSe alguém puder me dar umas instruções para seguir o padrão. para evitar falhas futuras, estamos aí pra contribuir. Fontes: Mapa municipal e Mapas do site do IBGE. Repassa para os demais... Valeu, obrigado pela atenção. Em 30 de abril de 2014 22:49, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com escreveu: O problema não é a pessoa ter usado Caminho sem título, mas sim a falta de resposta quanto à origem dos dados. []s Arlindo 2014-04-30 22:43 GMT-03:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com: 2014-04-30 21:59 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: Caminho sem título é um nome default do editor Trackmaker. Ele deve ter editado o mapa no Trackmaker e convertido para OSM. Quanto a isso não há pecado. Tem que verificar a fonte. Então se a pessoa ignorar a mensagem pergutando sobre a origem a gente deixa, é isso? ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik nicht für MOB AC und Oruxmap
Am 30. April 2014 11:39 schrieb Lars Schimmer l.schim...@cgv.tugraz.at: Wenn einzelne Apps die freien Services von OSM kostenlos nutzen und ausbeuten (sprich: die Apps setzen keinen eigenen Tiles-Server auf und nutzen den OSM Server um Geld zu sparen) um einen eigenen Vorteil zu haben, muß man hin und wieder mal einschreiten. Schreib den App Entwicklern das Problem. Alternativ: OpenAndraMaps - offline, aber super! MOBAC habe ich selbst früher (vor einigen Jahren) mal genutzt, weil es da auch eine Symbian Version davon gab. Damals konnte man auch eigene Tiles einbinden, so dass das Problem mit dem Download vom OSM Server umgangen wird. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mapnik nicht für MOB AC und Oruxmap
Hallo tshrub, schau mal in das Forum von MOBAC [1]. Vielleicht kannst du dem Autor helfen. Gruß Steffen [1] http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/mobac/viewtopic.php?f=1t=1start=0 --- Original Nachricht --- Absender: tshrub Datum: 30.04.2014 10:52 Am 30.04.2014 08:42, schrieb Simon Poole: Am 30.04.2014 02:45, schrieb tshrub: ... Kennt jemand ggf. eine Möglichkeit, Mapnik in o.g. wieder nutzen zu können? Aktuelle Versionen der Apps zu nutzen. Alte Version der Apps sind gesperrt weil Sie sich nicht an die tile usage policy gehalten haben, logisch ... die gabs wohl noch nicht so IMHO sollen bei den beiden erwähnten Programmen das bei neueren Version behoben sein. beim MOB AC habe ich ein Update gemacht - ohne Ergebnis bzgl. Problems. Vielleicht müsste man ihn einmal komplett inkl. Einstellungen von der Platte löschen ... Allg. ist das aber Seitens OSM nicht ok. Kommt der Dongel nicht von da? Wieso sehe ich nicht, was ich online sehe kann auf den Geräten? Das lief doch vorher. Wieso wird man gezwungen, neue Geräte zu kaufen? M.E. hier zu kurz gedacht. Gruß, t. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] XML von einem Objekt exportieren
Am 30.04.2014 23:50, schrieb Markus: - in JOSM einen Link zum ausgewählten Objekt Versuch mal Strg+i bzw Umschalt+Strg+i wenn Du ein Objekt ausgewählt hast. Super! man lernt nie aus... :-) Schön, wenn es möglich ist Wissen zu teilen. PS: Hatte früher mal aus Frust über fehlende JOSM-Doku eine Wiki-Doku geschrieben: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/de:JOSM/Guide Dort habe ich Deine Tastaturkürzel eingetragen (bin aber nicht sicher mit der Sortierung). Naja, da hat sich doch so einiges getan, wobei es doch an Übersetzungen ins Deutsche noch fehlt. [1] Die beiden oben genannten Funktionen sind erklärt [2]+[3] und wer es ganz genau wissen will findet sogar eine automatisierte Liste der Tastaturkürzel [4]. cu fly [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/De:Help [2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/InfoAboutElements [3] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/InfoAboutElementsWeb [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/ShortcutsList ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: Tags = Schlagwörter
Am 30.04.2014 18:21, schrieb fly: Am 27.04.2014 13:59, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, gerade ist mir aufgefallen, dass mein JOSM, wenn ich ihn auf Deutsch einstelle, die Tags neuerdings als Schlagwörter bezeichnet. Dazu fallen mir mehrer Punkte ein: 1. Josm wird in Lauchpad übersetzt und mit einer Emailaddresse kann Mensch loslegen, was zu Fehlern und Ungereimtheiten führen kann. Hat eben alles seine Vor- und Nachteile. Wenn es nicht offen wäre, dann würde es viele Übersetzungen nicht geben. Die Ungereimtheiten gehen manchmal schon im Quelltext los, wenn verschiedene Autoren Begriffe verschieden verwenden. 2. Wichtige Begriffe sind, im Unterschied zu anderen Seiten/Software, bei Josm klar definiert und daran hat sich die letzten Jahre keine Person gestört. [1] [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/De:Translations#SprachspezifischeÜbersetzungsnotizen JOSM übersetzt Tag mit Merkmal. Die Schlagwörter wurden auf Launchpad inzwischen zu Merkmalen geändert (Danke Dirk). Grundsätzlich würde ich ein offizielle Seite für wichtige Begriffe un deren Übersetzungen im Wiki begrüßen, denn dann wäre wenigstens ein Vereinheitlichung möglich und solche Schnitzer wie Schlagwörter würden noch unwahrscheinlicher. Dem kann ich mich voll anschließen. Aus meiner Sicht ist es wichtiger etwas einheitliches zu verwenden, als es perfekt machen zu wollen. Aber wir sind hier ja bei OSM, da gibt es eh keinen Konsens. Da hat JOSM zwei Vorteile gegenüber dem Wiki: Es ist klar, wer das Sagen hat, und man kann sich seine eigene Sprachversion basteln, wenn man will. Gruß Holger ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] come comportarsi quando due wayId puntano allo stesso Oggetto e un'Oggetto è puntato da una RelationId e da una wayId?
2014-05-02 2:31 GMT+02:00 Tommaso Grenga tommasogre...@yahoo.it: Vorrei avere una vostra opinione in merito; nel frattempo riporto come mi comporterei io nel caso in cui queste situazioni non fossero volute ma dei semplici duplicati *wayId che puntano al medesimo Oggetto* *Ponte Sant'Angelo* definito dalla wayId *25752465 *e dalla wayId *134399939* *Area sacra dell'Argentina * definito dalla wayId *23955329 *e dalla wayId *125566956* Immagine che in questi caso si possano aggregrare in un unica wayId riportando le differenze da una all'altra *RelationId e WayId che fanno riferimento al medesimo Oggetto* *Palazzo Torlonia* Definito dalla RelationId *1624311 *ma anche dalla wayId *30002936 * Ipotizzo che la wayId possa essere eliminata inserendo la building = yes e tourism = attraction nella Relation *Istituto Centrale di Statistica* Definito dalla RelationId *2705767 *ma anche dalla wayId *27412179* Ipotizzo che la wayId possa essere eliminata inserendo build = yes nella Relation *Palazzo Senatorio * Definito dalla RelationId *1691910 *ma anche dalla wayId *136630993* Ipotizzo che la wayId possa essere eliminata inserendo tourism = attraction nella Relation in generale, quando si tratta di veri duplicati, cancello l'oggetto più recente (quindi con id più alto) assicurandomi che tutti i tags sono anche sull'elemento vecchio. Nei casi descritti sopra da te lo vedo cosí: Ponte Sant'Angelo: *http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/134399939 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/134399939 - versione più recentehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25752465 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25752465 - originale* *Si tratta di un ponte pedonale, dove una versione è lineare e l'altra è un'area. Non vedo grossi problemi nell'attuale mappatura, volendo si potrebbe cambiare i tags dell'area e mettere invece del highway=pedestrian area=yes il tag area:highway http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/area%3Ahighway http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/area%3Ahighway* *E' un tag per l'area di una strada (e da usare insieme ad un elemento lineare sovrapposto del tipo highway=*)* *Largo Argentino:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23955329 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23955329http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/125566956 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/125566956 - da cancellare* *i ways sono membri di questi relazioni:http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1709798 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1709798 - da cancellare (perché il verde fa anche parte dell'area sacra, si tratta di mapping per il rendering)http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1729223 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1729223* * - da cancellare (perché il verde fa anche parte dell'area sacra, si tratta di mapping per il rendering)http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1729222 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1729222 - da cancellare (vedi sopra, edifici invece di verde, ma è la stessa cosa)* *Palazzo Torlonia:http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30002936 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30002936 - definisce il perimetro, non puo essere cancellato, ma il tag building=yes dovrebbe andare sulla relazione (descrive la struttura meno il buco, non tutto interno alla way)http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1624311 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1624311 - la relazione che descrive il palazzo (edificio con cortile), dovrebbe avere il tag building* *ISTAThttp://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27412179 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27412179 - non dovrebbe avere il tag building, la relazione invece lo dovrebbe averlo (lo mantiene), vedi Torlonia*http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2705767 - già ha un tag building, il tagging potrebbe essere precisato, perché oltre al nome non c'è tag specifico per descrivere l'oggetto. *Campidoglio:http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1691910 http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1691910http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/136630993 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/136630993 - non è un way chiuso, non può avere quindi tags del tipo building ecc. (questi vanno nella relazione)* *Oltre a fare le correzioni scriverei agli autori che hanno introdotto questi errori spiegandogli perché è sbagliato.* *ciao,Martin* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] surface per mulattiera
2014-04-28 12:21 GMT+02:00 solitone solit...@mail.com: A me è piaciuta la proposta emersa in una discussione sulla mailing list internazionale [1]: aggiungere historic=mule_path [2]. Se siete d'accordo, potremmo cercare di incoraggiare l'uso di questo schema. +1 ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Violazioni
2014-05-01 1:21 GMT+02:00 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: e difficilmente si risolve con la minaccia del nome sul wiki. La minaccia di una causa legale per copyright infringement rimane comunque, il fatto che la OSMF potrebbe decidere di installare una wall of shame non vuol dire che ci si ferma lí, ma sono d'accordo con te, nel caso che non reagiscono i violatori, si dovrebbe andare anche avanti, e questo non lo vedo finora. Ancora la mappa della Apple non ci conferma il copyright e non nomina la licenza (attribuzione probabilmente sbagliata, share-alike probabilmente negato), oramai da più di 2 anni e decine di millioni di volte (in ogni iOS-device)... ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Come mappare un'area IGP
2014-04-25 12:32 GMT+02:00 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com: onestamente non sono d'accordo. non si tratta di per se di un area protetta e quindi sottoposta a particolari vincoli economico-paesaggistici. L'IGP è una protezione posta sull'indicazione di provenienza del prodotto quindi si fa riferimento ad un area (diciamo ad un place o boundary ) ma non è l'area ad essere IGP, è il prodotto; +1 Quindi non è l'area ad essere protetta, ma lo sono (alcuni) prodotti su di essa coltivati-prodotti che vengono in qualche maniera tutelati per le loro qualità determinate dalla loro origine geografica. +1 sarebbe da inventarsi un nuovo tag evventualmente, però le area geografiche non mappiamo pratticamente mai, perché non hanno confini precisi. Forse nel caso del IGP è diverso (in questo caso: nuovo tag). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Iniziano a uscir i primi building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/38.13429/13.34844 Ma quanto sono contento? Non riesco nemmeno a prendere una misura :) - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804892.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Complimenti Andrea e grazie! On May 2, 2014 11:42 AM, aborruso aborr...@gmail.com wrote: Iniziano a uscir i primi building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/38.13429/13.34844 Ma quanto sono contento? Non riesco nemmeno a prendere una misura :) - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804892.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Mitico Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 02/mag/2014, alle ore 12:50, gianfranco gliozzo gfrem...@gmail.com ha scritto: Complimenti Andrea e grazie! On May 2, 2014 11:42 AM, aborruso aborr...@gmail.com wrote: Iniziano a uscir i primi building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/38.13429/13.34844 Ma quanto sono contento? Non riesco nemmeno a prendere una misura :) - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804892.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] conferenza SOTM: early bird in chiusura
mannaggia, visto troppo tardi per motivi di vacanze ;-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Parcheggio
2014-04-25 21:04 GMT+02:00 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: parcheggio da chi poi parte da lì per un'escursione a piedi, posso lo stesso taggarlo come amenity=parking? in altre parole anche se non ci sono disegnate in terra le classiche strisce dei posti auto? Noi mappiamo la realtà. se c'è il parcheggio. Lo si mappa IMHO. lo vedo anch'io cosí, credo (al meno in Germania è così) che fuori i centri abitati si può lasciare la macchina dove si vuole al meno che non sia la carreggiata o un'area privata o c'è un divieto. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Uso di OSM ad Amburgo per il trasporto pubblico
2014-04-28 17:16 GMT+02:00 Davio davide@gmail.com: L'agenzia della mobilità di Roma utilizza il layer MapQuest con base dati OSM come sfondo: http://www.muovi.roma.it/percorso/js/ ad Amburgo usano le nostre mappe anche in forma cartacea: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/IOOI/diary/21738 ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Aree naturali minori della regione Veneto (Open Data Arpav)
2014-04-28 20:01 GMT+02:00 Leonardo Frassetto kinetocor...@gmail.com: Peccato. Non c'è nessun altro tag adeguato? È inutile caricare gli shape con solo il tag name. I shape molto probabilmente non sono da caricare (già per la scala/generalizazzione). Invece si potrebbe vedere se alcune aree sono già in OSM, e vedere se ne manca il nome. Visto che si tratta di aree naturali non credo che ci sia un unico tag per descriverne la tipologia, invece tocca capire nel singolo caso di cosa si tratta (e forse non ci sarà un unico tag ma una combinazione). In generale non mappiamo aree topographiche per motivi di incompatibilità con il nostro modello dati (non abbiamo modo per inserire aree con confini sfocati). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Ciao, premesso che apprezzo questo import, ma sei sicuro di aver seguito tutte le guidelines? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines Ad esempio, l'import non è stato fatto con un utente dedicato e non trovo traccia sul wiki del piano di import. Ti dico questo perché il rischio è quello di vedersi cancellati gli edit... Ciao, Andrea. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:41 PM, aborruso aborr...@gmail.com wrote: Iniziano a uscir i primi building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/38.13429/13.34844 Ma quanto sono contento? Non riesco nemmeno a prendere una misura :) - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804892.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Ciao Andrea, ne ho dato notizia qui https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2014-April/003120.html Non ho ricevuto risposta in lista. Ne ho ricevuta però una in privato senza particolari rilievi. Ho chiesto poi consiglio anche io in privato ad un utente esperto italiano, che mi ha dato un parere con un sostanziale nulla osta. Incrocio le dita __ Scusami per la brevità, ti sto scrivendo dal cellulare. website: http://blog.spaziogis.it 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E EPSG:4326 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 02:08 PM, Andrea Musuruane [via GIS], wrote: Ciao, premesso che apprezzo questo import, ma sei sicuro di aver seguito tutte le guidelines? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines Ad esempio, l'import non è stato fatto con un utente dedicato e non trovo traccia sul wiki del piano di import. Ti dico questo perché il rischio è quello di vedersi cancellati gli edit... Ciao, Andrea. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:41 PM, aborruso wrote: Iniziano a uscir i primi building: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/38.13429/13.34844 Ma quanto sono contento? Non riesco nemmeno a prendere una misura :) - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804892.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804908.html To unsubscribe from Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM, visit http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=5803715code=YWJvcnJ1c29AZ21haWwuY29tfDU4MDM3MTV8NTQ1MjA5NTc2 - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804912.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] conferenza SOTM: early bird in chiusura
Il 02 maggio 2014 13:38, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: mannaggia, visto troppo tardi per motivi di vacanze ;-) Beh, puoi ancora registrati, solo che costa 25 € in più. Ciao, C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] conferenza SOTM: early bird in chiusura
2014-05-02 14:28 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Beh, puoi ancora registrati, solo che costa 25 € in più. si, mi è chiaro ;-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
2014-05-02 14:21 GMT+02:00 aborruso aborr...@gmail.com: Ciao Andrea, ne ho dato notizia qui https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/2014-April/003120.html Non ho ricevuto risposta in lista. Ne ho ricevuta però una in privato senza particolari rilievi. Ho chiesto poi consiglio anche io in privato ad un utente esperto italiano, che mi ha dato un parere con un sostanziale nulla osta. Incrocio le dita si, credo che non ci saranno problemi, non sarebbe male utilizzare un utente dedicato (la prossima volta), e dovresti fare (se non c'è già) una pagina dedicata nel wiki che dice che cosa hai importato, da chi sono i dati, licenze ecc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_Documentation quindi dovresti aggiungere qui una riga con il tuo import: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue e linkare da lì una pagina dedicata (come hanno fatto gli altri). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Portici e passaggi sotto gli edifici
Salve a tutti. Mi stavo chiedendo se e come assegnare un tag particolare alla parte di edificio che sta sopra un portico a libero accesso che fiancheggia una strada oppure alla parte di edificio dove sotto passa una strada. Ho guardato ma non mi pare esista un building=portico o qualcosa del genere, oppure quacosa che definisca la situazione... Non parlo della way che potreffe stare sotto, intendo propri l' edificio... Ciao Alberto --- Questa e-mail è priva di virus e malware perché è attiva la protezione avast! Antivirus. http://www.avast.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Ciao Martin, dieterdreist wrote si, credo che non ci saranno problemi, non sarebbe male utilizzare un utente dedicato (la prossima volta), devo aggiungere ancora molti edifici. A chi devo dare i dataset per svolgere l'import da un utente dedicato? Esiste un'ulteriore lista a cui scrivere? e dovresti fare (se non c'è già) una pagina dedicata nel wiki che dice che cosa hai importato, da chi sono i dati, licenze ecc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_Documentation quindi dovresti aggiungere qui una riga con il tuo import: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue e linkare da lì una pagina dedicata (come hanno fatto gli altri). Pensavo di farlo alla fine dell'import completo. Ma inizierò a farlo prima. Grazie mille, Andrea - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804931.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
2014-05-02 15:44 GMT+02:00 aborruso aborr...@gmail.com: Ciao Martin, dieterdreist wrote si, credo che non ci saranno problemi, non sarebbe male utilizzare un utente dedicato (la prossima volta), devo aggiungere ancora molti edifici. A chi devo dare i dataset per svolgere l'import da un utente dedicato? nono, lo puoi fare tu, devi creare un nuovo utente (sign up), per esempio con un nome significativo come import edifici palermo 2014 o qualcosa di simile, e utilizzarlo soltanto per questo import. In questa maniera sarà più facile dopo individuare l'import. Per quello già caricato lascerei perdere. Esiste un'ulteriore lista a cui scrivere? penso di no, avevi scritto alla lista import e avevi contattato la lista nazione italiana, dovrebbe bastare. Se avete una lista regionale siciliana oppura una lista locale per Palermo potresti contattare anche loro. e dovresti fare (se non c'è già) una pagina dedicata nel wiki che dice che cosa hai importato, da chi sono i dati, licenze ecc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_3_-_Documentation quindi dovresti aggiungere qui una riga con il tuo import: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue e linkare da lì una pagina dedicata (come hanno fatto gli altri). Pensavo di farlo alla fine dell'import completo. Ma inizierò a farlo prima. si, come vedi nei guidelines dovrebbe essere fatto prima di caricare dati. Invece per i tags del import (quelli del changeset) suggerisco di aggiungere import=yes Al momento ci sono solo 2 tags (description e created_by) __nel changeset__. Personalmente metterei il tag source soltanto ai changesets e non ad ogni singolo edificio. Come descritto nei guidelines, dovresti nel tuo caso (attribuzione richiesta) anche mettere una riga qui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Importare gli edifici open data del Comune di Palermo su OSM
Martin, grazie mille. Ho quasi capito tutto :) Ti scrivo nei prossimi giorni! - Andrea Borruso email: aborr...@tin.it website: http://blog.spaziogis.it my 2.0 life: http://aborruso.spaziogis.it feed: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/Tanto 38° 7' 48 N, 13° 21' 9 E -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Importare-gli-edifici-open-data-del-Comune-di-Palermo-su-OSM-tp5803715p5804938.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] come comportarsi quando due wayId puntano allo stesso Oggetto e un'Oggetto è puntato da una RelationId e da una wayId?
2014-05-02 17:14 GMT+02:00 Any File anysomef...@gmail.com: 2) man_made=bridge http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dbridge questo sembrerebbe un tag adatto per la way 134399939 ammesso che sia giusto dover taggare queste cose (ma se si mappa il pilone perché non andrebbe mappato il ponte?) si, la mappatura dei ponti è sottosviluppata rispetto a tante altre cose. Al solito ciò che facciamo è aggiungere un attributo ad una strada (bridge=yes) per indicare che una strada si trova su un ponte. Il ponte stesso manca. Per quello non abbiamo un oggetto da aggiungere name=nome del ponte, start_date=* ecc. (invece c'è l'idea di aggiungere bridge_name sulla strada, ma rimarebbe sempre una mappatura indiretta). man_made=bridge potrebbe essere un tag come anche building=bridge. [...] Campidoglio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1691910 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/136630993 - non è un way chiuso, non può avere quindi tags del tipo building ecc. (questi vanno nella relazione) Però anche qui, in maniera analoga a quanto detto da Martin per gli altri palazzi, probabilmente alcuni tag della relation valgono per tutta l'area (cioè non va tolto l'inner). Dal momento che qui non c'è una way intera che fa perimetro, probabilmente sarebbe fare due relation, una per il building, che contiene anche la way 205829111 con ruolo inner e un'altra che non contiene quest'utlima way per l'attraction ed il resto. si, ma una vera soluzione non c'è. Per esempio il nome: name=Villa Pinco. Probabilmente sarebbe da mettere sull'outer way e non sulla relazione (perché anche il cortile fa parte di Villa Pinco. Invece building=* non vale per il cortile e quindi va messo sulla relazione. Il risultato sarebbe che l'outer way avrebbe il tag name=Villa Pinco e area=yes (per specificare un poligono e non un way lineare) su un multipoligono con tag building=*. Il problema è che in questo modo non c'è alcun legame tra nome dell'edificio e edificio (una persona potrebbe indovinare / dedurre che il nome è dell'edificio, ma nei dati ci sarebbe soltanto una coincidenza del luogo). Oramai metto il nome nella relazione come anche il tag building, così al meno si capisce cosa è stato taggato. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Portici e passaggi sotto gli edifici
Spero che Tizianos legga questo. C'è stata una lunga discussione su questo argomento, penso due anni fa. 2014-05-02 17:24 GMT+02:00 girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 02/05/2014 15:17, gmail ha scritto: Salve a tutti. Mi stavo chiedendo se e come assegnare un tag particolare alla parte di edificio che sta sopra un portico a libero accesso che fiancheggia una strada oppure alla parte di edificio dove sotto passa una strada. Ho guardato ma non mi pare esista un building=portico o qualcosa del genere, oppure quacosa che definisca la situazione... Non parlo della way che potreffe stare sotto, intendo propri l' edificio... Ciao Alberto Questo tag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel#tunnel.3Dbuilding_passage Il building và taggato normalmente, mentre il tratto di way và mappato come un tunnel, solo che il tag è tunnel=building_passage. - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlNjuMcACgkQoVS0hKoD3PPipgD9HvOtFT3A+PetMscKwkDe1OWK zSLfQTC2maBygd2UxmcA/0eGqvcfBymyGgWvJA0+5m7axmBBoMslC1VzkzoAXA6p =rIxR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Parcheggio
2014-05-02 13:47 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: lo vedo anch'io cosí, credo (al meno in Germania è così) che fuori i centri abitati si può lasciare la macchina dove si vuole al meno che non sia la carreggiata o un'area privata o c'è un divieto. esatto. se mappassimo l'ufficialità e non la realtà, la mappa di Kibera sarebbe ancora vuota. Come vuota rimane per il governo del Kenya e per Gmaps. http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/#17/-1.3129/36.7923num=2mt0=mapnikmt1=google-map -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] openstreetmapper card
la parte nera di questo font: http://i.fonts2u.com/bo/bonk-offset_4.png intendevi questo giusto? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/openstreetmapper-card-tp5795902p5804960.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] openstreetmapper card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 02/05/2014 19:40, Aury88 ha scritto: la parte nera di questo font: http://i.fonts2u.com/bo/bonk-offset_4.png intendevi questo giusto? Più o meno sì. - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlNj2aoACgkQoVS0hKoD3PMdwAEAqjJQqiF8elx0rS+ZHNi+A/TL OQpy/smKKYrCf2gGA8MA/jJkxKH5LoNgVDGQaGgZfGzhlSJRo36ngIjL0nKQsKpl =WHSy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-dk] Konkurrence om bedste app med offentlige data
Dette kan muligvis være af interesse for OSM-folket: Erhvervsstyrelsen afholder en konkurrence om udvikling af en apps, som skaber nye forretningsmuligheder. Appen skal gøre brug af offentlige data som fx BBR, CVR og vejrdata. De bedste løsninger vinder mindst 50.000 kr. og mulighed for god markedsføring. Se http://erhvervsstyrelsen.dk/pressesoeg/697639/5 -M __ Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér http://syntaktisk.dk * mj...@syntaktisk.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-dk] Inspire conference Aalborg
I'm going to be in Aalborg on the 16th June talking at/attending a workshop in the context of the inspire conference that week. See http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/events/conferences/inspire_2014/page/home If anybody wants to get together and have a drink or just sit down and chat later on the Monday, I will try to make it possible. The other point is that a number of other mapping companies, if you so want our competition, will be there in force and the event is naturally a good opportunity to bang our drum and showcase the location a bit in OSM. Given that Aalborg is already very well mapped, that would boil down to more houses, perhaps 3d-tags and further details if there is somebody on the ground that has time and inclination. Naturally this is purely optional, not that I get accused of fiddling with a local community :-). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-es] Datos historic en OSM de España y visor
Excelente trabajo Patricio. Siempre he pensado en el potencial que tiene OSM en la parte de difusión del patrimonio. No solo en los ya catalogados dentro de los BIC sino en aquellas pequeñas construcciones, restos, o topónimos menores que muchas veces son difíciles de localizar si no es por el conocimiento local. Es un patrimonio que llega a olvidarse lo que fueron o incluso cual era antigua función debido a su estado o localización poco accesible. En mi caso, puedo contar que he tenido bastantes dudas sobre cómo etiquetar la parte histórica de elementos como estos: - Canal - Presa - Esclusa - Puente - Molino de agua - Minas y todas las instalaciones asociadas (planos inclinados, antiguos ferrocarriles, cargaderos, torres de pozos, etc.) - Cueva - Presa - Resbaladero de troncos. - Nevero - Palomar - Atalaya - Castro - Antiguas paradas de postas - Casamatas o restos de trincheras. En la mayoría, puedo definir su etiqueta general, pero ¿cuando utilizo la etiqueta historic o heritage para poner de relevancia su importancia patrimonial?¿Qué pasa con aquellos lugares con los restos de una cimentación, por ejemplo, de un nevero o de un retén de troncos que no son lugares arqueológicos? Por otra parte y si te interesa, considera utilizar en tu trabajo la etiqueta wikipedia http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia e image http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image de los elementos. Además podrías probar a encontrar una clasificación más atinada utilizando bases de datos semánticas como DBpedia http://dbpedia.org/, Freebasehttp://www.freebase.com/o Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org. Un saludo. Jesús Gómez El 2 de mayo de 2014, 10:41, Patricio Soriano Castro pasori...@gmail.comescribió: Hola a todos Desde el pasado miércoles está disponible en Github [1] un trabajo que he estado realizando centrado en el análisis de la etiqueta *historic *en OSM en España. La finalidad es que pueda servir de pueda servir de ayuda a los que estén interesados en mapear este tipo de elementos y mejorar calidad de a información ya existente como ya se hizo en Canarias [2] y estoy intentando mover para la provincia de Córdoba [3]. Me interesaría saber vuestra opinión sobre los resultados que he podido obtener y también contar con vuestros comentarios para poder mejorar el trabajo, sobre todo en la parte técnica. El trabajo también ha incluido un visor con los datos en CartoDB [4]. De antemano, gracias por vuestra colaboración. [1] https://github.com/pasoriano/visor-historicosm/blob/gh-pages/README.md#an%C3%A1lisis-de-resultados [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Bienes_de_Inter%C3%A9s_Cultural_en_Canarias [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Bienes_de_Inter%C3%A9s_Cultural_de_C%C3%B3rdoba [4] http://sigdeletras.com/visor-historicosm/ -- Patricio J. Soriano Castro www.sigdeletras.com @sigdeletras https://twitter.com/SIGdeletras - Linkedinhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/patriciosorianocastro +34 639714412 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-at] Einheitliche Bezirke Bezirksteile in Wien?
On 2014-05-01 22:47, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: Meiner Meinung nach gehört alles, was sich auf Flächen bezieht, auf ebendiese getaggt (MP mit boundardy=administrative). Bezirke sind Flächen. Ich sehe keinen Sinn in einem Node für einen Bezirk. Place-Nodes sind für Siedlungen, nicht für administrative Einheiten. Flächen wären natürlich auch schön, aber Punkte an einer zentralen Stelle sind ein Anfang, der sich auch sehr schnell realisieren lässt. Außerdem gibt es diese Punkte schon und ich würde sie nur gerne klarer sortieren, weil es jetzt ein Durcheinander ist. Wien ist Siedlung und Bundesland zugleich, daher ist es ok, dass es für Wien ein Multipolygon (fürs Bundesland bzw. fürs Gemeindegebiet) und auch einen place-Node (für die Siedlung) gibt. Was für die Bezirke gilt, gilt um so mehr für die Katastralgemeinden. Ich wohne in der Katastralgemeinde Inzersdorf-Stadt. Vor meiner Beschäftigung mit OSM wusste ich gar nicht, dass es diese Katastralgemeinde überhaupt gibt. So wie mindestens 99% ihrer anderen Einwohner. Und schon gar nicht hätte ich angenommen, dass diese Katastralgemeinde in Favoriten liegt. Die Lage auf einen Node festzulegen ist absurd, weil es keine Siedlung Inzersdorf-Stadt gibt und nie gab. Inzersdorf war ein Dorf, dessen Kern heute noch erkennbar ist, und der liegt im 23. Bezirk. Inzersdorf-Stadt gibt es nur am Papier. Ich stelle die Frage in den Raum, welchen Sinn es haben soll, diese Wiener Katastralgemeinden überhaupt zu mappen. Kein Mensch in der realen Welt hat eine Verwendung dafür. Aber wenn wir sie mappen, dann sollten wir sie unbedingt als Flächen mappen, denn nur dann ist es wenigstens theoretisch möglich sie für irgendwas zu verwenden. Ich habe nie von Katastralgemeinden geredet, sondern von Bezirksteilen, die auch auf jeder der 23 Wikipedia-Seiten der Bezirke schön dargestellt sind. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsergrund http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4hring ... Und die sind in den meisten Fällen durchaus sinnvoll für eine Karte. Gersthof, Weinhaus, Pötzleinsdorf, Rossau, Michelbeuern,.. LG, Markus ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Einheitliche Bezirke Bezirksteile in Wien?
On 02.05.2014 08:30, Markus Straub wrote: Ich habe nie von Katastralgemeinden geredet, sondern von Bezirksteilen, die auch auf jeder der 23 Wikipedia-Seiten der Bezirke schön dargestellt sind. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsergrund http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4hring ... Und die sind in den meisten Fällen durchaus sinnvoll für eine Karte. Gersthof, Weinhaus, Pötzleinsdorf, Rossau, Michelbeuern,.. Für meinen Bezirk Favoriten sind als Bezirksteile nur die weitgehend unbekannten Katastralgemeinden angegeben. Bezirksteile im realen Gebrauch wären Hansson-Siedlung, Wienerberg, Laaerberg, Triesterviertel... Oberlaa nur für die Siedlung ganz im Süden. Kann aber sein, dass das in deinen Beispielen Alsergrund und Währing anders ist. Wenn ich es richtig verstehe, sind jene Bezirksteile (Gersthof, Pötzleinsdorf usw.) eingemeindete Vororte mit noch erkennbarem Siedlungskern und ohne genaue Umgrenzung. Somit sind place-Nodes doch passend, und entsprechend der Definition im Wiki ist place=suburb genau richtig dafür: annexed towns or villages which were formerly independent, with a distinct and recognised local name and identity. Suburbs may have uncertain boundaries, may overlap with other suburbs, and are often best mapped using a node. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Gautrain Bus Mapping
Hi John, That would be great! An email forwarded to the list saying we can use the data royalty free should be enough as long as it is from someone official enough at Gautrain. With regards to bulk merging. I don't think that is going to happen as there is already so much data. The best would be to split the data per route, convert to osm usable format and merge and import as needed. Plus of course updating the necessary relations. Regards On 2 May 2014 15:14, John john@gmail.com wrote: I may be able to get a list of all bus stops including GPS coordinates directly from Gautrain. Two questions: 1) What permissions do we need to get for this to be usable on OSM? 2) Is there someone who could assist to bulk load the data. On the second point I would be happy to do some preprocessing. e.g. Correlation against against a list of what has already been captured. Regards, John On 22 November 2013 08:46, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: Copyright law cannot prohibit the manual reconstruction of publically-available information any more than what it can control an internet search engine like https://www.duckduckgo.com from indexing and serving that information when you do a web search. There is, consequently, no legal problem at all in looking at information on e.g. the official Gautrain bus map, and updating OpenStreetMap based on this. Gerhardus' method is more in the spirit of OpenStreetMap though - as OSM frowns upon the copying of information from commercial or proprietary sources. Ultimately - nobody will even know: there is no legalistically-distinguishable difference between adding something because you were there, vs adding something because you saw it on another map. (Obviously you should only add things to the map that you have verified actually exists.) When I added the gautrain bus routes that I have actually travelled on, I still used the official gautrain bus map as a reference: to correlate the positioning and get the metadata (stop numbers, etc). Nobody can prove which one I used more though - their map, or my on-the-ground observation. I wouldn't worry too much. Grant needs to worry more, now that he's added a state secret (Nkandla) to the map :-) -- Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com Op Do, 2013-11-21 om 20:46 + skryf Gerhardus Geldenhuis: Well ideally you should travel with GPS in hand and map the stops. That way there is not licensing dispute at all and where the busses stop is public knowledge that you have recorded in OSM. Regards On 21 November 2013 19:08, John john@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I probably need to try JOSM again. How about copy right? Can we use from the published Gautrain maps as source? In the case of public transport surely it is public domain?? We always come back to this, apologies, but it does seem a bit different with a public transport vs propriety. We are after all not copying the map, simply the stops and the route?? Alternatively do we ask permission? Regards, John On 21 November 2013 10:25, Gerhardus Geldenhuis gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com wrote: Just echoing Dawid, JOSM will be your friend for relational editing if you not already using it. Regards On 21 November 2013 08:18, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: Nice work in the Midrand area, John! The Gautrain Bus Route is really looking swell overall (Six months ago there was barely anything). With regards to the order of the stops in the relation, I am afraid iD (in-browser editor) is a little bit limited - the only way that I am aware of, is to add the stops to the relation in chronological order - the order seems to be maintained. To view the order of the items in the relation, just open the relation for editing, and in the left-hand toolbar, scroll down to where the members are listed - you will see all members (in order). Otherwise, check out the JOSM editor for finer-grained editing tasks like these. Happy mapping! (or do we say Merry Mapping this time of year...?) ___ Talk-ZA mailing listTalk-ZA@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za -- Gerhardus Geldenhuis ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Gautrain Bus Mapping
Hi, On 2 May 2014 16:15, John john@gmail.com wrote: I may be able to get a list of all bus stops including GPS coordinates directly from Gautrain. Awesome! Do it, we are still lacking the locations of most of the Gautrain Bus stops... Rea Vaya bus stops are even worse. Two questions: 1) What permissions do we need to get for this to be usable on OSM? It isn't a huge dataset, so I think a simple email or document from them saying we (OpenStreetMap) may us the data would be sufficient. Forward the approval email to me gr...@osmfoundation.org or le...@osmfoundation.org for archiving. 2) Is there someone who could assist to bulk load the data. Yes, I would be more than happy to convert to OSM format from whatever they give you. (Even an excel document with lat/lon columns would be good) On the second point I would be happy to do some preprocessing. e.g. Correlation against against a list of what has already been captured. Once converted you can help me merge the data ;-) Kind regards, Grant Regards, John On 22 November 2013 08:46, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: Copyright law cannot prohibit the manual reconstruction of publically-available information any more than what it can control an internet search engine like https://www.duckduckgo.com from indexing and serving that information when you do a web search. There is, consequently, no legal problem at all in looking at information on e.g. the official Gautrain bus map, and updating OpenStreetMap based on this. Gerhardus' method is more in the spirit of OpenStreetMap though - as OSM frowns upon the copying of information from commercial or proprietary sources. Ultimately - nobody will even know: there is no legalistically-distinguishable difference between adding something because you were there, vs adding something because you saw it on another map. (Obviously you should only add things to the map that you have verified actually exists.) When I added the gautrain bus routes that I have actually travelled on, I still used the official gautrain bus map as a reference: to correlate the positioning and get the metadata (stop numbers, etc). Nobody can prove which one I used more though - their map, or my on-the-ground observation. I wouldn't worry too much. Grant needs to worry more, now that he's added a state secret (Nkandla) to the map :-) -- Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com Op Do, 2013-11-21 om 20:46 + skryf Gerhardus Geldenhuis: Well ideally you should travel with GPS in hand and map the stops. That way there is not licensing dispute at all and where the busses stop is public knowledge that you have recorded in OSM. Regards On 21 November 2013 19:08, John john@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I probably need to try JOSM again. How about copy right? Can we use from the published Gautrain maps as source? In the case of public transport surely it is public domain?? We always come back to this, apologies, but it does seem a bit different with a public transport vs propriety. We are after all not copying the map, simply the stops and the route?? Alternatively do we ask permission? Regards, John On 21 November 2013 10:25, Gerhardus Geldenhuis gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com wrote: Just echoing Dawid, JOSM will be your friend for relational editing if you not already using it. Regards On 21 November 2013 08:18, Dawid Loubser da...@travellinck.com wrote: Nice work in the Midrand area, John! The Gautrain Bus Route is really looking swell overall (Six months ago there was barely anything). With regards to the order of the stops in the relation, I am afraid iD (in-browser editor) is a little bit limited - the only way that I am aware of, is to add the stops to the relation in chronological order - the order seems to be maintained. To view the order of the items in the relation, just open the relation for editing, and in the left-hand toolbar, scroll down to where the members are listed - you will see all members (in order). Otherwise, check out the JOSM editor for finer-grained editing tasks like these. Happy mapping! (or do we say Merry Mapping this time of year...?) ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [Talk-cat] Fwd: [Talk-es] Odd edits by Tino Pinilla
M'acabo de trobar amb un altre cas (molt) sospitós de tirar de dades obsoletes i/o errònies de l'ICGC. Una pista introduïda a l'OSM el novembre del 2012, que en les ortofotos del 2011 ja hi estaven construint un edifici al damunt. No cal dir que, a dia d'avui, en quasi tots els topogràfics de l'ICGC no hi ha ni rastre de l'edifici. Puc donar fe dels canvis perquè hi he passat aquest matí, i ja està feliçment arreglat a l'OSM (a l'ICGC encara falta). No gaire lluny d'aquí també hi he trobat el nom d'un carrer introduït pel mateix usuari en la mateixa data que res a veure té amb el que hi diu a les plaques del carrer. Curiosament també està malament als mapes de l'ICGC i del catastro. Podria ser que aquest carrer hagi patit un canvi de nom en els darrers 2 anys, però les plaques es veuen bastant antigues, i fins i tot hi ha un establiment amb el mateix nom del carrer (tal i com està a les plaques) que no es veu precisament modern. Si tinc ocasió preguntaré als vilatans. Amb aquest usuari, molt actiu per cert, ja hi vaig contactar fa temps per un tema semblant d'un corriol que feia anys que havia desaparegut però que en alguns topogràfics de l'ICC encara el pintaven. Més habitualment del que desitjaria hem trobo amb unclassifieds que en realitat són pistes de terra (amb sort estan en bon estat), o pitjor encara amb tracks que sobre el terreny són corriols. Que anant amb mapes de l'ICGC (i d'altres) hagi de donar mitja volta ja hi estic acostumat, però amb l'OSM ... . És el que té substituir el treball de camp pel treball de despatx i ortofoto. Bé, fins aquí la meva queixa/reflexió amb ànims de ser constructiu. Amb OSM espero tenir un mapa veraç i confiable, malgrat que trigui uns quants anys a estar complet, que de mapes complets i equivocats ja sé on trobar-ne. Salut Jan ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat
[Talk-cat] Denominació de carrers
Hola, Sóc en Pep Gesti i segueixo la llista amb atenció encara que he de reconèixer que algunes de les discussions estan fora de l'abast dels meus coneixements, ja que sóc massa novato a OSM. N'anem aprenent. Us volia demanar si hi ha algun consens en relació al nom dels carrers a l'hora d'etiqueta-los (name=) a OSM. Em trobo (com tots suposo) amb incoherències com que, per un mateix carrer, hi hagi Carrer Mossèn Cinto Verdaguer a la placa del carrer, Carrer Verdaguer al plànol ofert per l'ajuntament, Carrer de Mossèn Jacint Verdaguer al nomenclàtor de l'ICC... És molt corrent, per exemple, la dualitat entre Carrer XXX i Carrer de XXX (Carrer Sant Sebastià / Carrer de Sant Sebastià, Carrer Batlle / Carrer del Batlle, Carrer Torrent / Carrer del Torrent...) Entenc que a OSM intentem ilustrar la realitat existent sobre el terreny, però així com les característiques de la via sí que són realitats físiques, el nom (ni que sigui en una placa) no ho és. Existeix un consens? Què recomaneu? Merci!! Pep Pep Gesti josepge...@gmail.com ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat
Re: [Talk-cat] Denominació de carrers
Crec que el més correcte és la informació local. Si a la guia municipal surt d'una manera doncs és la que val. En aquest cas concret es tracta de simplificacions de noms. És normal trobar plaques amb el nom sencer o retallat depenent de l'any d'instal.lació de la placa. Personalment trobo millor el nom llarg o complert. Den 2 maj 2014 17:48 skrev pep josepge...@gmail.com: Hola, Sóc en Pep Gesti i segueixo la llista amb atenció encara que he de reconèixer que algunes de les discussions estan fora de l'abast dels meus coneixements, ja que sóc massa novato a OSM. N'anem aprenent. Us volia demanar si hi ha algun consens en relació al nom dels carrers a l'hora d'etiqueta-los (name=) a OSM. Em trobo (com tots suposo) amb incoherències com que, per un mateix carrer, hi hagi Carrer Mossèn Cinto Verdaguer a la placa del carrer, Carrer Verdaguer al plànol ofert per l'ajuntament, Carrer de Mossèn Jacint Verdaguer al nomenclàtor de l'ICC... És molt corrent, per exemple, la dualitat entre Carrer XXX i Carrer de XXX (Carrer Sant Sebastià / Carrer de Sant Sebastià, Carrer Batlle / Carrer del Batlle, Carrer Torrent / Carrer del Torrent...) Entenc que a OSM intentem ilustrar la realitat existent sobre el terreny, però així com les característiques de la via sí que són realitats físiques, el nom (ni que sigui en una placa) no ho és. Existeix un consens? Què recomaneu? Merci!! Pep Pep Gesti josepge...@gmail.com ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat ___ Talk-cat mailing list Talk-cat@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cat
[Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Zdravim, na zaklade vcerejsiho zjisteni jsem se pustil do kompletne noveho nahrani dat z RUIAN. To znamena, ze vrstvy z tile.poloha.net budou fungovat az do nahrani omezene. Co je vyrenderovane, to se zobrazi, co vyrenderovane neni, tak pak zalezi na tom, zda konkretni obec uz je nahrana. Bohuzel to nahrani do DB trva dlouho. -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Dne 2.5.2014 10:50, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): Zdravim, na zaklade vcerejsiho zjisteni jsem se pustil do kompletne noveho nahrani dat z RUIAN. To znamena, ze vrstvy z tile.poloha.net budou fungovat az do nahrani omezene. Co je vyrenderovane, to se zobrazi, co vyrenderovane neni, tak pak zalezi na tom, zda konkretni obec uz je nahrana. Bohuzel to nahrani do DB trva dlouho. Ahoj, na jak dlouho to vidíš? On totiž nefunguje ani PointInfo, tak ať vím, co si mám naplánovat. Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:36:07PM +0200, Marián Kyral wrote: Dne 2.5.2014 10:50, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): Zdravim, na zaklade vcerejsiho zjisteni jsem se pustil do kompletne noveho nahrani dat z RUIAN. To znamena, ze vrstvy z tile.poloha.net budou fungovat az do nahrani omezene. Co je vyrenderovane, to se zobrazi, co vyrenderovane neni, tak pak zalezi na tom, zda konkretni obec uz je nahrana. Bohuzel to nahrani do DB trva dlouho. Ahoj, na jak dlouho to vidíš? On totiž nefunguje ani PointInfo, tak ať vím, co si mám naplánovat. Zrovna jsem ti psal do mailu - pointinfo by mělo fungovat, ovšem jen na místech, kde už jsou data nahraná. Nahrávám od rána znovu, jsem v necelé půlce. Myslím, že do půlnoci by mělo vše být. V Praze je vadný polygon, čeká mě ruční editace řádku dlouhého 888 MB :-\. Nechápu, jak může být v datech z ČÚZK vadný polygon. -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Dne 2.5.2014 14:59, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): Zrovna jsem ti psal do mailu - pointinfo by mělo fungovat, ovšem jen na místech, kde už jsou data nahraná. Nahrávám od rána znovu, jsem v necelé půlce. Myslím, že do půlnoci by mělo vše být. V Praze je vadný polygon, čeká mě ruční editace řádku dlouhého 888 MB :-\. Nechápu, jak může být v datech z ČÚZK vadný polygon. Nevím, co se změnilo, ale poslední cca 3 měsíce se to stává nepříjemně často. Dřív jsem na tenhle problém nenarážel. Petr Morávek aka Xificurk ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Dne 2.5.2014 14:59, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:36:07PM +0200, Marián Kyral wrote: Dne 2.5.2014 10:50, Petr Vejsada napsal(a): Zdravim, na zaklade vcerejsiho zjisteni jsem se pustil do kompletne noveho nahrani dat z RUIAN. To znamena, ze vrstvy z tile.poloha.net budou fungovat az do nahrani omezene. Co je vyrenderovane, to se zobrazi, co vyrenderovane neni, tak pak zalezi na tom, zda konkretni obec uz je nahrana. Bohuzel to nahrani do DB trva dlouho. Ahoj, na jak dlouho to vidíš? On totiž nefunguje ani PointInfo, tak ať vím, co si mám naplánovat. Zrovna jsem ti psal do mailu - pointinfo by mělo fungovat, ovšem jen na místech, kde už jsou data nahraná. Nahrávám od rána znovu, jsem v necelé půlce. Myslím, že do půlnoci by mělo vše být. V Praze je vadný polygon, čeká mě ruční editace řádku dlouhého 888 MB :-\. Nechápu, jak může být v datech z ČÚZK vadný polygon. Právě, že jsem teď chtěl editovat, kde data ještě nejsou ;-) Ad XML) Co takhle si jej přeformátovat? Třeba pomocí XMLStarlet ( http://xmlstar.sourceforge.net ) Marián -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Dne 2.5.2014 15:19, Marián Kyral napsal(a): Ad XML) Co takhle si jej přeformátovat? Třeba pomocí XMLStarlet ( http://xmlstar.sourceforge.net ) Marián Na to stačí i libxml2: xmllint --format file.xml Ale ty soubory jsou pořád (celkově) dost velké, obzvláště v Praze :/ Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Aktualizace RUIAN
Dne 2.5.2014 15:24, Petr Morávek [Xificurk] napsal(a): Dne 2.5.2014 15:19, Marián Kyral napsal(a): Ad XML) Co takhle si jej přeformátovat? Třeba pomocí XMLStarlet ( http://xmlstar.sourceforge.net ) Marián Na to stačí i libxml2: xmllint --format file.xml Ale ty soubory jsou pořád (celkově) dost velké, obzvláště v Praze :/ Petr Však to byl jen příklad. Xmlstarlet umí navíc to xml prohledávat, editovat, transformovat i validovat. A stejně je rozdíl, jestli to je 800MB na jednom řádku nebo 800MB rozdělených na milión řádků. Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-cz] Jak na aktualizaci RUIAN databáze
Ahoj, tak jsem udělal experiment v testovacím schematu. Stáhl jsem si Čím k 31.1.2014 a k tomu všechny dostupné aktualizace, t.j. od 1.4.2014. Pustil jsem aktualizaci a dostal jsem se opět k tristnímu počtu geometrií hranic, stejnému, jako na produkční verzi. Pak jsem pustil aktualizace ještě jednou, tentokrát s parametrem --reset- transaction-ids - a fíha - dostal jsem se na 418 budov s hranicemi, tedy úplně stejný počet, jako při totálním znovunahrání. Vypadá to tedy, že chyba tohoto druhu ve změnových souborech není. Problém bude s těmi id transakcí, či trasakcí, neb tento překlep je zoficiálněn a nebude se opravovat, viz manuál k RUIAN 1.3. Proč ty transakce nesedí, to nevím. Mám hypotézu, že ID transakce se mění jen tehdy, když dojde ke skutečné změně, jako je přestavba domu, postavení, zbourání atd. Zavedení geometrií hranic, tedy digitalizace KM, vlastně žádnou skutečnou změnou není a tak, možná, nemění ID transakce. Je to jen domněnka. Dnešní výpadek je tedy zbytečný, měl jsem nejprve přemýšlet a pak jednat, hmm. V tuto chvíli je nahráno 4780 obcí, tedy to té půlnoci ... možná bez Prahy ano. -- Petr, p...@propsychology.cz p ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Re: Cartopartie Vernon (Eure) avec France 3 Normandie
Le 30 avril 2014 21:26, RatZilla$ ratzil...@gmail.com a écrit : Le reportage diffusé hier soir au JT 19/20 de France 3 Haute Normandie: http://videos.francetv.fr/video/101220752@Regions Chez moi ce lien ne fonctionne pas. Et vous? Romain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Re: Cartopartie Vernon (Eure) avec France 3 Normandie
Bonjour http://haute-normandie.france3.fr/emissions/jt-1920-haute-normandie Puis choisir le bon jour Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Re: Cartopartie Vernon (Eure) avec France 3 Normandie
bonjour Le 02/05/2014 09:59, Romain MEHUT a écrit : Chez moi ce lien ne fonctionne pas. Et vous? je rencontre le même problème. En allant sur cette page et en cliquant sur le lien vers le JT du 29/04/14, cela fonctionne http://haute-normandie.france3.fr/emissions/jt-1920-haute-normandie Le reportage démarre à 11:34. Gwen ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [osm-fr CA] Re: Cartopartie Vernon (Eure) avec France 3 Normandie
2014-05-02 10:34 GMT+02:00 Gwen ping...@no-log.org: Le reportage démarre à 11:34. Pour la petite histoire, j'ai découvert OSM en 2007 au travers de France 3, le journal des régions (le best of diffusé en national). C'est ça qui est bien avec cette chaîne de télévision, c'est que chaque région a fait, fait ou fera un reportage sur OSM, ce qui multiplie les occasions de faire parler de nous ;-) Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] 2014 London HOT Congo Mapathon
Bonsoir à tous et toutes, Ci dessous une traduction rapide de l'annonce par Harry Wood sur la mailing list de HOT [1] du Mapathon République Démocratique du Congo (RDC) qui sera tenu à Londres demain le 3 mai 2014 Cet événement est co-organisé par HOT, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF_UK) et hébergé par l'Open Data Institute du Royaume Uni (UK ODI) : il s'agit d'appuyer le développement du projet OSM en République Démocratique du Congo (DRC) et notamment à la continuation du soutien OSM aux actions terrains menées par la branche britannique de Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF_UK) à Lubumbashi dans la province du Katanga. Bienvenues et bienvenus, celles et ceux, qui, demain, auraient du temps à consacrer à de la cartographie à distance sur des zones d'intérêt en RDC pour les actuers humaniaires, de développement ou la communauté OSM locale et son groupe de Lubumbahsi Plus de détails ci dessous, sur la mailing list hot ou sur twitter #mapcongo. Excellent WE de pont de 1er mai à vous. Ciao Nico = 2014 London HOT Congo Mapathon = Le dernier événement HOT organisé à Londres datant, Harry a travaillé avec Ivan de MSF UK à l'organisation du Mapathon de HOT sur la Republique Démocratique du Congo (DRC). Page du wiki (à traduire en français si quelqu'un a le temps) : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_London_HOT_Congo_Mapathon Date: Samedi 3 Mai Horaire: 10:30 à 18:00 Lieu: The Open Data Institute, London, UK. 3rd Floor. 65 Clifton Street. EC2A 4JE (carte) Inscription (pour présence sur place) : http://london -hot-congo.eventbrite.co.uk/ Il est possible d'en faire un événement important et pour cela il convient d'attirer des individus de la scène humanitaire aussi bien que des mappers expérimentés du projet OSM qui pourront jouer entre autre le rôle de formateurs. Idéalement, il faudrait des personnes avec cette double expérience (hotties, avez-vous dit hotties ?), d'avance merci pour transmettre à toute personne susceptible d'être intéressée par l'événement. S'il vous est possible de vous rendre sur place, n'hésitez pas à faire acte de présence! Harry est heureux d'avoir pu compter sur Jorieke Vyncke et Shohaib Burq qui feront le déplacement et seront de l'événement. Le travail de cartographie à venir sera lié au travail de MSF UK au Congo avec notamment du travail de numérisation des données contenus sur les Field Papers que Jorieke, MSF UK et les mappers de Lubumbashi ont collecté lors de leur travaux de terrain de la mi Mars passée [2]. [1] = https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2014-April/005139.html [2] = http://hot.openstreetmap.org/node/285 -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Activation HOT en RCA, an II
Bonsoir à tous, Pour ceux que cela intéresse, j'ai rédigé un billet de blog sur les progrès de la cartographie OSM de la République centrafricaine ces trois derniers mois : http://hot.openstreetmap.org/node/294 Bien cordialement, Séverin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSRM-talk] develop branch switching to C++11 today
Dear all, please note that we will be activating C++11 flags in the develop branch today. In the coming week we will go over the code and apply many of the new (and very convenient) language features. If you are using the bleeding edge branch and are on an old install, it’s about time to start upgrading. At this point the the minimum compiler requirements are GCC 4.7.2+ and clang 3.3. These were released in September 2012 and June 2013 respectively. The upcoming 0.4.0 version will be the first release to require C++11. —Dennis ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Foot profile
Hello, I'm trying to use foot.lua from cbf-routing-profiles direct link: https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles/blob/master/foot.lua as a profile for osrm-extract, and it's not working (osrm-extract works fine with profiles from the Project-OSRM repository, but not with cbf ones). At first I immediately got the error: terminate called recursively Then I tried to remove the four first lines require... from foot.lua, as no require is used in current profiles (and car.lua even says in a comment function temporarily inlined). Extract now fails a little bit later, with this error: [info] Using turn restrictions [info] Found no exceptions to turn restrictions [info] Parsing in progress.. terminate called after throwing an instance of 'luabind::error' It would seem that the syntax of the current profiles are different from the one used in the cbf versions (which are 5 to 12 months old). Is this syntax documented? Or, how does one write a profile from scratch? (Or at least, how does one read a profile?) (I would be happy to recursively test little modifications to existing profiles, but since extract/prepare takes a long time, it doesn't seem like a practical solution...) Thanks, Regards, EB On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Emmanuel Bégué medu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Sarah Hoffmann lon...@denofr.de wrote: We have adapted foot profiles on our Swiss installation[1], which seem to work fairly ok. Code is here: https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles Thanks!! I'll give it a try ;-) Regards, EB ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [OSRM-talk] Foot profile
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 11:48:56AM +0200, Emmanuel Bégué wrote: Hello, I'm trying to use foot.lua from cbf-routing-profiles direct link: https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles/blob/master/foot.lua That's an old unmaintained one which really should be removed. Please try one of those two: https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles/blob/master/foot-city.lua https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles/blob/master/foot-hiking.lua They work fine against OSRM versions 0.3.3 - 0.3.9. Then I tried to remove the four first lines require... from foot.lua, as no require is used in current profiles (and car.lua even says in a comment function temporarily inlined). Those requires are necessecary. The library files can be found in lib/ and you need to supply the directory path to osrm-extract and osrm-prepare, like that: LUA_PATH=$scriptdir/lib/?.lua ./osrm-extract other options see https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles/blob/master/compile_profiles.sh for how those profiles are used with OSRM in osm.ch's production environment. Is this syntax documented? Or, how does one write a profile from scratch? (Or at least, how does one read a profile?) (I would be happy to recursively test little modifications to existing profiles, but since extract/prepare takes a long time, it doesn't seem like a practical solution...) That's what I did. Use a smaller extract for testing and it works ok. Cheers Sarah On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Emmanuel Bégué medu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Sarah Hoffmann lon...@denofr.de wrote: We have adapted foot profiles on our Swiss installation[1], which seem to work fairly ok. Code is here: https://github.com/sosm/cbf-routing-profiles Thanks!! I'll give it a try ;-) Regards, EB ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Oxford spam
Hi Frederik,
Thanks for checking. I've only been down that street a couple of
times, but there are in fact shops there. It's not right inside All
Souls College, it's street-facing - I don't know the shop but I feel
quite content that what we have here is a true shop-mapping. The shop
website lists an address which matches.
However, opening_hours=24/7 is probably wrong. The user probably did
that because the shop has an online presence, but I bet they operate
standard shop opening hours at the address. Anyone confirm?
Dan
2014-05-02 8:39 GMT+01:00 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Hi,
I have recieved a spam complaint about this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22059155#map=4/40.25/36.56
It seems that the author has {accidentally,ingenuously} added a faraway
node to the changeset which makes the box look big, but the only edit
was in fact adding a shop which might be slightly mis-tagged and
possibly mis-placed as it claims to be right inside All Souls College
but I hesitate to simply delete it without local knowledge; maybe
someone in Oxford can trim/fix/delete this as required.
Bye
Frederik
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Re: [Talk-GB] [OHM] New York Public Library - Building Inspector
Those are some good examples - they appear to be around the same scale also. They are monochrome and don't have addresses which should limit a couple of the types of the tasks. Could be worth trying the Building Inspector with this dataset. I wonder if there's anyone from the NLS on list? On 1 May 2014 19:11, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, all Open. It's great. In terms of how we could use it here in the UK, the best data I can think of is the OS Town Plans for Scotland that NLS have as individual map sheets and as a slippy map: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=57.14443lon=-2.1054layers=B0TFF There is also some great London data: http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19lat=51.52008lon=-0.12473layers=B0FTF We have a pretty good relation with NLS. Is there any interest in our community to enquire about working with them? Rob On 30 April 2014 15:46, Tim Waters chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, it has been on the list before - but they have recently revamped it and added many more features, and maps! In my opinion it's a shining example of how geo crowdsourcing applications should be. I believe it has been developed internally with the library - and I think they are just using Mapbox to host the tiles (originally coming from the warper at maps.nypl.org) The code is on github: https://github.com/NYPL/building-inspector and the data is available to download as well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/general/data Cheers, Tim On 29 April 2014 22:44, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Don't think I've spotted this on the historic mailing list so I'll post it. NYPL digitizing old maps using crowd sourcing. I just gave it a go and it works very well. http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/ Looks like Mapbox has some involvement, or at least the map display has a similar style to mapbox's. I wonder whether the software is open as we can use this to help OpenHistoricMap. Rob ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
