Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On 16.08.2013 15:39, Tom MacWright wrote: Hi all, Now as ever is a good time to post bug reports and suggestions to the issue tracker, where developers can see, act, and respond to them: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues Another website with another login and no option for anonymous reports. Why is it not using trac.osm.org or at least some OSM domain ? Sorry, I usually do not use ID but I do reporting JOSM bugs. The two issues where mentioned the last time we were talking about ID on this list and if people are either developing or testing they should have noticed already. If you have any question as far as 'what is in the latest version of iD' or 'is X fixed or not', you can as always, use the testing instance that has the absolute latest code to find out yourself: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/#background=Bingmap=20.00/-77.02271/38.90085 This instance is really slow with iceweasel ! The two issues are not fixed ! Why didn't you mention this ? Forward/backward/left/right are established prefixes, values and roles and I expect developers to know about it, especially if the software is quite new. Also, as always, it's a great time to be objective and constructive in your criticism. Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! Please, fully support forward/backward/left/right as part of the key and value, and appropriate adjust them when changing direction of a way and combining ways. Forward/backward as roles need to be adjusted, as well, with these two actions. As long as this is not fixed, deny to combine or change directions on any way. Thanks a lot ! Cheers colliar signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Hi, Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry with how hidden or alert-messaged the functionality is? Would welcome feedback here beyond the simple negative. For what it's worth, the Delete key which is mapped in JOSM and P2 as well, is also pretty easy to hit, and the trash icon in JOSM is even larger than the trash in iD, just positioned differently. Forward/backward/left/right are established prefixes, values and roles and I expect developers to know about it, especially if the software is quite new. Please search for, link to, or comment on an issue. Here it is: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/299 We cannot rehash and respond to all issues in iD, without context, on every thread that relates to it. Please search and use the issue tracker for bugs, as you would do with any other open source project. Tom On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 9:07 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: On 16.08.2013 15:39, Tom MacWright wrote: Hi all, Now as ever is a good time to post bug reports and suggestions to the issue tracker, where developers can see, act, and respond to them: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues Another website with another login and no option for anonymous reports. Why is it not using trac.osm.org or at least some OSM domain ? Sorry, I usually do not use ID but I do reporting JOSM bugs. The two issues where mentioned the last time we were talking about ID on this list and if people are either developing or testing they should have noticed already. If you have any question as far as 'what is in the latest version of iD' or 'is X fixed or not', you can as always, use the testing instance that has the absolute latest code to find out yourself: http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/#background=Bingmap=20.00/-77.02271/38.90085 This instance is really slow with iceweasel ! The two issues are not fixed ! Why didn't you mention this ? Forward/backward/left/right are established prefixes, values and roles and I expect developers to know about it, especially if the software is quite new. Also, as always, it's a great time to be objective and constructive in your criticism. Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! Please, fully support forward/backward/left/right as part of the key and value, and appropriate adjust them when changing direction of a way and combining ways. Forward/backward as roles need to be adjusted, as well, with these two actions. As long as this is not fixed, deny to combine or change directions on any way. Thanks a lot ! Cheers colliar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Il giorno 17/ago/2013, alle ore 15:07, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com ha scritto: As long as this is not fixed, deny to combine or change directions on any way. for combining ways there seems to be another quite important issue regarding turn restrictions: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1512 and there is the delete way that is in a relation without notifying the user problem: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1461 All of these tend to put risk of data loss to regions with relations, but completely hidden for the mapper. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On 17.08.2013 15:26, Tom MacWright wrote: Hey Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry with how hidden or alert-messaged the functionality is? Would welcome feedback here beyond the simple negative. * Have it placed in some menu/panel but not in the centre. * Power user can always use keyboard shortcuts. Al * The alert message needs a checkbox with the option to disable it for the session. For what it's worth, the Delete key which is mapped in JOSM and P2 as well, is also pretty easy to hit, and the trash icon in JOSM is even larger than the trash in iD, just positioned differently. Sorry, I do not find any delete button in JOSM except in the main menu edit. Delete mode is only available in expert modus. Seems to me you misunderstood us. We are talking about delete object. Forward/backward/left/right are established prefixes, values and roles and I expect developers to know about it, especially if the software is quite new. Please search for, link to, or comment on an issue. Here it is: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/299 Was closed but never fully implemented ! The link to the JOSM is mentioned but the source what not read carefully. Thanks a lot for respecting mappers' work ! colliar P.S.: A possibility to turn of the background is useful. Do not think people understand that they need to use an empty sting as custom server to disable it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry with how hidden or alert-messaged the functionality is? Would welcome feedback here beyond the simple negative. What about requiring double clicks on the delete icon to make sure a user didn't accidentally click the icon. And at the same time only showing a tooltip on single clicks: Are you sure you want to delete this item? Double click to delete. That way power-users can go on with their deletions without a substantial barrier, but newbies are much less likely to accidentially delete things. Variations: Require shift-click or crtl-/option-click on the delete button. I know, this isn't an already well established UI pattern, though. :/ Cheers. Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Hey, Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? I think it depends on the individual which editor fits to whom. I met several people who know how to work with GUIs but are not familiar with OSM. All had no problem getting along with JOSM right away and some where looking for features like filter, purge, export to file/gpx and printing. The international student projects on several highschool across Europe did only use JOSM and it work, too. A short description of iD, Potlatch2, JOSM and Merkaartor with links would be nice. Cheers Colliar On 16.08.2013 08:59, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. Refer to the previous thread In the works: iD 1.1 for details on that release. The relevant GitHub pull request is here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/453 It is likely that this pull request will be merged (i.e. accepted and incorporated into the OSM web site) in the near future unless there are important reasons not to. Bye Frederik signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 04:34:37PM +0200, colliar wrote: Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? Because we don't want to make it easier, not harder for new users. And the new users don't have any information to base their decision on. Nobody is reading any kind of info programs give you anyway. Giving them enough information to make an actual informed decision is just going to put them off. Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.jochentopf.com/ +49-721-388298 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Hi, Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? That's a question for another thread, but the answer is likely to be 'reasonable defaults'. Tom On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Hey, Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? I think it depends on the individual which editor fits to whom. I met several people who know how to work with GUIs but are not familiar with OSM. All had no problem getting along with JOSM right away and some where looking for features like filter, purge, export to file/gpx and printing. The international student projects on several highschool across Europe did only use JOSM and it work, too. A short description of iD, Potlatch2, JOSM and Merkaartor with links would be nice. Cheers Colliar On 16.08.2013 08:59, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. Refer to the previous thread In the works: iD 1.1 for details on that release. The relevant GitHub pull request is here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/453 It is likely that this pull request will be merged (i.e. accepted and incorporated into the OSM web site) in the near future unless there are important reasons not to. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Users can already decide in their profile, so we're talking more about a default by default... 2013/8/17 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org: Hi, Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? That's a question for another thread, but the answer is likely to be 'reasonable defaults'. Tom On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:34 AM, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Hey, Why do we set a default editor right from the beginning and do not let the user decide ? I think it depends on the individual which editor fits to whom. I met several people who know how to work with GUIs but are not familiar with OSM. All had no problem getting along with JOSM right away and some where looking for features like filter, purge, export to file/gpx and printing. The international student projects on several highschool across Europe did only use JOSM and it work, too. A short description of iD, Potlatch2, JOSM and Merkaartor with links would be nice. Cheers Colliar On 16.08.2013 08:59, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, it has been proposed to make the newly released iD v1.1 the default editor on openstreetmap.org, meaning that if someone doesn't explicitly chose an editor they will open iD instead of Potlatch. Refer to the previous thread In the works: iD 1.1 for details on that release. The relevant GitHub pull request is here: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/453 It is likely that this pull request will be merged (i.e. accepted and incorporated into the OSM web site) in the near future unless there are important reasons not to. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: Users can already decide in their profile, so we're talking more about a default by default... better say the default for newcomers Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Martin Raifer tyr@gmail.com wrote: What about requiring double clicks on the delete icon I would prefere a popup window coming only the first time someone use it, saying be carefull, you will really delete something in the real database if you save your work or something like that. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
iD has always had a clear message to this direction every time any user saves: The changes you upload as tmcw http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tmcw will be visible on all maps that use OpenStreetMap data. https://cloudup.com/ckQTglHaKYJ On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Martin Raifer tyr@gmail.com wrote: What about requiring double clicks on the delete icon I would prefere a popup window coming only the first time someone use it, saying be carefull, you will really delete something in the real database if you save your work or something like that. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Maybe a short summary like: you have added xxx objects, modified yyy object and deleted zzz objects would help in this dialog ? 2013/8/17 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org iD has always had a clear message to this direction every time any user saves: The changes you upload as tmcw http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tmcw will be visible on all maps that use OpenStreetMap data. https://cloudup.com/ckQTglHaKYJ On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Martin Raifer tyr@gmail.com wrote: What about requiring double clicks on the delete icon I would prefere a popup window coming only the first time someone use it, saying be carefull, you will really delete something in the real database if you save your work or something like that. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Please, as I mentioned before: you can just use iD and see for yourself. There's no point in guessing what's in the box when you can just scoot over to http://openstreetmap.us/iD/master/#background=Bingmap=20.00/-77.02271/38.90085 And see for yourself. That is to say, we already have a listing of created/deleted/modified objects, as well as warnings when, for instance, users delete a lot of things. One could find this out by going to the URL above and seeing for oneself. https://cloudup.com/cCy2e6ruPBY On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.frwrote: Maybe a short summary like: you have added xxx objects, modified yyy object and deleted zzz objects would help in this dialog ? 2013/8/17 Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org iD has always had a clear message to this direction every time any user saves: The changes you upload as tmcwhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tmcw will be visible on all maps that use OpenStreetMap data. https://cloudup.com/ckQTglHaKYJ On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Martin Raifer tyr@gmail.com wrote: What about requiring double clicks on the delete icon I would prefere a popup window coming only the first time someone use it, saying be carefull, you will really delete something in the real database if you save your work or something like that. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: And see for yourself. Ok. No special warning if you delete one element. And most of newcomers do small changes for a try. But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored). Please, move that away from the main site. Keep it on your local deployment in osm.us if you like. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
I actually love the social features in iD. I like being able to share on Facebook that I've just edited my hometown. I think it's a great way to start conversations around OSM and share an interest of mine with my friends, as well as raise general awareness of the project. Obviously not everyone uses those social platforms, which is perfectly fine, but I think having the sharing option built in is a great feature. On Aug 17, 2013 5:29 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: And see for yourself. Ok. No special warning if you delete one element. And most of newcomers do small changes for a try. But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored). Please, move that away from the main site. Keep it on your local deployment in osm.us if you like. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
And most of newcomers do small changes for a try. If we're going to continue to assume that newcomers are dumb and destructive, disabling new user signups would do the trick better than subtly judging them and handicapping applications that empower them. But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Moving on to more issues, I guess? Anyway, like everything else you've brought up, you could have and should have searched the issue tracker, and you would have found: * https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1687 * https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1452 * https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1571 * https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1038 On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: And see for yourself. Ok. No special warning if you delete one element. And most of newcomers do small changes for a try. But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored). Please, move that away from the main site. Keep it on your local deployment in osm.us if you like. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I actually love the social features in iD. It is strange to see that some are trying to escape from google maps controling (geo)data just to fall down immediatly to other companies controling data (privacy) you could have and should have searched the issue tracker None of them suggesting to change this as opt-in instead of opt-out. Marketing I guess ? Any plan for the fb like and g+ buttons near the changesets history tab ? And I'm surprised that iD is asking to modify my OSM user preferences. I understand the read access but not the write access. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
Pieren, we are discussing whether or not to make iD the default editor. While you are welcome to hold your own opinions regarding services such as Facebook and Twitter, the material point that you raised by mentioning them is whether they add to or harm the project. I haven't heard you mention any issues with these features beyond your distaste for the services themselves, so I suggest we drop the issue and get back to focusing on the idea of iD as default editor. Thanks, Kathleen On Aug 17, 2013 6:37 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: I actually love the social features in iD. It is strange to see that some are trying to escape from google maps controling (geo)data just to fall down immediatly to other companies controling data (privacy) you could have and should have searched the issue tracker None of them suggesting to change this as opt-in instead of opt-out. Marketing I guess ? Any plan for the fb like and g+ buttons near the changesets history tab ? And I'm surprised that iD is asking to modify my OSM user preferences. I understand the read access but not the write access. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org wrote: Please, do not offer a delete function that prominent ! This has come up before. Where should this action button move? Or should there be an alert message? How to resolve this with pro users who get angry with how hidden or alert-messaged the functionality is? Would welcome feedback here beyond the simple negative. Here is a complete proposal on that topic, with no upper case text or invective: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1698 And a proposal related to sorting out which users still need to use P2 because of speed issues: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1696 But perhaps most critically of all, before iD becomes the default, are the issues of damaging relations and oneway=yes tagged ways: https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1461 https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/299 We cannot rehash and respond to all issues in iD, without context, on every thread that relates to it. Please search and use the issue tracker for bugs, as you would do with any other open source project. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)
Pieren, But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored). Like you, I am very critical of data silos like Facebook, and I find it sad that so many people un-thinkingly embrace such proprietary platforms. I think that as an open project, we must be very careful not to endorse these platforms - under no circumstances should we send out the message that you can be a better mapper if you sign up to Facebook. But at the same time it is not for us to re-educate people. Facebook and other similar platforms are an important part in the social life of many people nowadays - in some countries, there's more OSM activity on Facebook than there is on the national OSM mailing list, and all that without our involvement. While making sure not to *endorse* proprietary social platforms, at the same time we should respect the decision of those who want to use them, and we shouldn't make it artifically hard for these users to include OSM in their social platform life. It is a difficult balance to strike but it is something that requires a nuanced view. Freedom and openness also means that people have the freedom to use Facebook. (And yes, the issue tends to be viewed with less ideological weight on the other side of the Atlantic. Then again, I believe that Potlatch 1 also had a post my edit on Twitter link?) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)
The eventual solution Google and Microsoft were forced into is: search providers are browser plugins. Switching focus to iD: there would be list of post edit notification plugins one could drag into place. Facebook, Twitter and G+ would be among those, along with whatever open source version you happen to track down or create. Anyone not wanting to be reminded of Mark Zuckerberg's smiling face could simply fail to install that plugin. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms (was: Making iD the default editor on osm.org)
Thank you, Frederick. I think that was extremely well put :-) On Aug 17, 2013 8:53 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Pieren, But I was extremetely surprise to see twitter and facebook after the save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would censored). Like you, I am very critical of data silos like Facebook, and I find it sad that so many people un-thinkingly embrace such proprietary platforms. I think that as an open project, we must be very careful not to endorse these platforms - under no circumstances should we send out the message that you can be a better mapper if you sign up to Facebook. But at the same time it is not for us to re-educate people. Facebook and other similar platforms are an important part in the social life of many people nowadays - in some countries, there's more OSM activity on Facebook than there is on the national OSM mailing list, and all that without our involvement. While making sure not to *endorse* proprietary social platforms, at the same time we should respect the decision of those who want to use them, and we shouldn't make it artifically hard for these users to include OSM in their social platform life. It is a difficult balance to strike but it is something that requires a nuanced view. Freedom and openness also means that people have the freedom to use Facebook. (And yes, the issue tends to be viewed with less ideological weight on the other side of the Atlantic. Then again, I believe that Potlatch 1 also had a post my edit on Twitter link?) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 __**_ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talkhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] Mapeando Sobradinho
Eu topo. De: Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com Para: OSM talk-br talk-br@openstreetmap.org Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 16 de Agosto de 2013 17:44 Assunto: [Talk-br] Mapeando Sobradinho Pessoal, A importação de Sobradinho foi revertida. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-15.6832/-47.8442 Vamos colocar Sobradinho no mapa a partir de imagens de satélite? Se a pessoa que fez a importação responder meu contato e mostrar que seus dados são livres de copyright, poderemos colocar os nome de ruas posteriormente. Vitor ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-it] Frecce con indicazioni
Ho trovato delle frecce, simili ai segnavia che indicano dove si trovano delle trincee. Non e' importante l'oggetto indicato ma i tag da usare per la freccia. Ad esempio su una delle frecce posta a bordo strada e' scritto Fortificazioni basse e la freccia punta verso queste fortificazioni che si trovano in mezzo al bosco e non e' presente un sentiero o una strada per raggiungerli. Usare guidepost non mi sembra appropriato ma nemmeno information=board mi convince. Cosa suggerite? grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tag per centri salute
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Re: [Talk-it] Dati istat
Il 12/08/2013 12:25, Caterpillar ha scritto: Sto per scrivere una e-mail PEC all'ISTAT per chiedere conto dei dati georeferenziati che ci sono stati promessi da più di un anno. Per caso avete i link delle discussioni precedenti dove posso prendere informazioni utili per comporre la lettera? up ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tempi di evasione
Il 13/08/2013 12:32, sabas88 ha scritto: Il giorno 13 agosto 2013 12:12, Le candele di Manu i...@lecandeledimanu.it mailto:i...@lecandeledimanu.it ha scritto: Ho inserito un nuovo negozio nella mappa, volevo sapere i tempi di evasione della richiesta. Grazie Fabio Colombo La sua richiesta verrà evasa in 15-20 minuti lavorativi da un nostro operatore /s Il tag che rappresenta il negozio non è al momento renderizzato sulla mappa principale http://sabas.github.io/doesitrender/#shop=gift [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2415042132 però come vedi appare il numero civico ed è ricercabile. Ciao, Stefano [0] OffTopic Vedi a cosa serviva il giochino Martin? :D ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Che meraviglia, Stefano, ottimo scenario, grande efficenza, digitazione elevata Ciao Mario. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Tempi di evasione
Il 13/08/2013 12:43, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2013/8/13 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com mailto:saba...@gmail.com Il giorno 13 agosto 2013 12:12, Le candele di Manu i...@lecandeledimanu.it mailto:i...@lecandeledimanu.it ha scritto: Ho inserito un nuovo negozio nella mappa, volevo sapere i tempi di evasione della richiesta. Grazie Il tag che rappresenta il negozio non è al momento renderizzato sulla mappa principale http://sabas.github.io/doesitrender/#shop=gift [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2415042132 però come vedi appare il numero civico ed è ricercabile. si, anche l'altro (se metti Le candele di Manu nel campo cerca sulla mappa principale lo trovi, anche se non ha un'icona): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2414964601 [0] OffTopic Vedi a cosa serviva il giochino Martin? :D si, fra un po' spero che implementano il ticket che chiede di far vedere tutti i shop, craft ed office. (Al meno con nome e in livelli di zoom alti come 18 e sopra). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it Che meraviglia, Martin, quasi un Cyborg:-) . Ciao Mario. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Posizionamento Smartphone Giroscopio ecc
Il 15/08/2013 12:04, Giuseppe Bilotta ha scritto: 2013/8/11 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: è da tempo che cerco un'applicazione che dato un punto iniziale preso da gps (o indicato manualmente) sfruttando i sensori giroscopio e accelerometri riesce a fare una traccia senza l'ausilio del gps qualcuno sa se esiste? L'idea di fondo di quello che proponi si chiama Real-Time Kinematics (RTK) positioning system e c'è un progetto molto interessante che ho visto recentemente su Kickstarter per usarlo, insieme al GPS, per migliorare il tracciamento _dinamico_. Pagina: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/swiftnav/piksi-the-rtk-gps-receiver Potrebbe essere interessante per i mappatori. Molto interessante, (centimeter level precision). -- RISPETTA L'AMBIENTE: SE NON TI E' NECESSARIO, NON STAMPARE QUESTA E-MAIL. Le informazioni contenute in questa comunicazione sono riservate e destinate esclusivamente alla/e persona/e o all'ente/i a cui sono stati indirizzati. Se questa comunicazione Vi e' pervenuta per errore, siete pregati di informare il mittente rispondendo a questa mail. I dati riportati nel presente documento sono trattati nel rispetto del D.Lgs. 196/2003 (Codice della Privacy) sulla tutela dei dati personali. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Posizionamento Smartphone Giroscopio ecc
Il 13/08/2013 12:52, Giacomo Boschi ha scritto: Considerazione a latere: sicuro si tratti di giroscopi? Che io sappia si tratta di rivelatori di campo magnetico che funzionano da bussola. si sicuro e molti smartphone di ultima generazione ne montano uno http://www.google.it/nexus/#/galaxy/specs -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: 7 giorni di pensione completa euro 308 a persona dal 24/8 al 31/8. Sconto bimbi da 0 a 3 anni gratis, da 4 a 12 anni 50% di sconto all'hotel Gigliola di Rimini Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=13033d=17-8 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Unire due livelli
Si decisamente il file va' prima aggiustato in quanto ci sono piloni staccati dai nodi della linea e tratte disconnesse... prima di tutto io spezzerei per lavorare meglio cioe' con files + piccoli... (altrimenti la validazione ad esempio ci mette troppo) Ad esempio sul file unito se vuoi operare in modo più veloce seleziona con il lazo (con un po' si sovrapposizioni fra selezioni successive) e poi convalidi per pezzi e vedrai quante sovrapposizioni hai e che corregge... Quello sotto l'ho un po' pulito io, ma e' ancora unito: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89290441/temporanei/linee_elettriche_senza_duplicati.osm.tar.gz Se qualcuno sa' come spezzare con qualche tool senza farlo da Josm è benvenuto... Ciao 2013/8/16 bredy bredy...@yahoo.it: il file lo puoi trovare a questo indirizzo: Linee elettriche http://www.azktech.com/file/linee_elettriche.rar -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Unire-due-livelli-tp5773537p5773787.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Linux Infinite Freedom I'm writing from this place: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.39945lon=8.6798zoom=15layers=M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] Herregårde
The tag historic=manor may be used for country houses once used as manor house or mansion or as home of gentry / landowners http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmanor Mit spørgsmål er, hvilke danske herregårde anno 2013 bruges og har rettigheder til at fungere som små feudale jurdiske enheder med landgilde, fæstere, hoveri og mandlig arverækkefølge mm? Alle definitioner af herregård bruger ordet Var at det er noget i fortiden med herregårdideen og den verden findes ikke mere. Går vi til definitionen af Historic The historic=* key is used to identify features that are of historic interest.[...]The value in the historic tag is used to characterise the type of feature. [...]In practice the most useful values have been found to be: [...]Domestic structures: house, manor http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historic Vedr. brugen af building=manor kan gå an, men er ikke uden problemer tit. Fx dit eksempel med Sandbjerg Gods duer den ikke - Aarhus Universitet (ejeren) bruger bygningerne som kursussted og derved kan building=manor ikke bruges, du skal finde et egnet building=XX tag for kursusvirksomhed. Hvis du samtidigt vil angive at Sandbjerg Gods har været en herregård skal du bruge/indsætte historic=manor som ekstra tag. Andre herregårde (buiding tag) bruges måske som hotel, museum, kollektiv, forpagtet ud. OSM wiki nævner et godt eksempel For example: “name=Durham Castle”, “building=university”, “historic=castle” hvor building angiver hvad objektet er (bruges til) i nutid og hvad det var i fortiden. Den danske stat ejer vel ca. 300 af disse herregårde (forpagtet ud, museer etc) og derved kan vi ikke bruge building=manor, men skal bruge historic=manor for at vise at i fortiden blev det brugt som herregård. Jeg finder at det letteste tag er historic=manor at bruge hele vejen igennem. Vedr. Dansk Center for Herregårdsforskning - Herregårde, de (forskerne) er i tvivl om med herregårdslignende angiver de på deres kort med et andet ikon - Dem kan man så lade være med at tagge med historic=manor eller building=manor. Jeg ved ikke hvorfor du kalder forskningen svag og dårlig, fordi de ikke 100 % kan definere alle herregårde på nuværende tidspunkt i Danmark. Sådan arbejder forskningen jo ikke man får flere kilder undersøgt og mere viden dukker frem - man ændrer måske holdning med tid. Men vi må tage udgangspunkt i på nuværende tidspunkt i OpenStreetMap kortlægning, mener en bred del af forskere, turistfolk at XX navn er en herregård. Det kan godt være om 10 år så er betegner man det ikke som en herregård mere, så må det jo ændres til den tid i OpenStreetMap regi. Det vil være vildt anno 2013 at der dukker building=manor op på Bornholm, her vil ingen sige at Herregårdskonceptet har været i brug - man har haft storgård/proprietærgårde. Det kan godt være at om 10 år man er blevet klogere og så må dette jo ændres. Dine eksempler fra Sønderjylland kan du jo maile og spørge dem hvad grunden er? Måske en studentermedhjælper har glemt at smide det på kortet eller lign. Vedr. brugen af ordet slot efter et navn Egeskov Slot, Gavnø Slot betyder jo ikke at folk ikke opfatter og klassificere det ind i historic=castle per auto refleks. Der er næppe nogen OSM frivillige på Vesterbro som vil placere Cafe Erik, Cafe Grotten, Cafe Sommersted (værtshuse) under amenity=cafe bare fordi ordet cafe omtræder i deres navne. 2013/8/16 Sonny B. Andersen s...@bukhmark.dk Som der skrives på herregårdsforskning.dkhttp://xn--herregrdsforskning-9tb.dkUd over disse herregårde, så medtager kortet en række gårde med herregårdslignende træk - det er altså ikke særlig præcist, men de udtrykker det også på denne måde ...opfattelsen af den danske herregård naturligvis fortsat er under udvikling. - Det undrer mig i øvrigt, at der ikke er nogen herregårde i Sønderjylland før 2011, bortset fra Ballegård (fra 1771) på 1770-kortet, som trods sin adresse og kortposition er oplyst hørende til Randers Amt. Den er i øvrigt forsvundet på de øvrige kort, og det er altså ikke så godt, fordi Historisk Samfund skal på herregårdsudflugt dér inden så længe. Og så er Gråsten Slot betegnet som en herregård, men ikke de tre øvrige slotte i Sønderborg Kommune. - Men det er da en flot web-site. ** ** Når turistfolk og Kulturstyrelsen (tidl. Kulturarvstyrelsen) kan rode rundt i navnet på Sandbjerg og når Gram, Schackenborg, Egeskov, m.fl. nu betegnes som slotte, så kommer sikkert også den tid, hvor man vil kalde nyere herregårdslignende boliger for herregårde. ** ** Jeg opponerede imod, at du ville lave en generel tagging med historic, fordi det er i modstrid med den engelske tag-definition, og så synes jeg, at historic skal anvendes med omtanke. Men hvis en OSM'er mener, at der er belæg for at tagge med historic=manor *og* respekterer den engelske definition, så gerne for mig. ** ** building=manor falder da fint inden for wikien: country houses that belonged to the gentry and *other* grand
Re: [Talk-dk] Herregårde
Jeg opponerer stadig imod, at du vælger den letteste udvej, som du oven i købet ved er forkert. - Jeg synes ærligt talt, at vi burde kunne gøre det bedre. I mine øjne er hovedbygningen til Sandbjerg Gods en herregårdslignende bygning, så derfor er bulding=manor korrekt. I øvrigt vil jeg godt have mig frabedt, at du fejlciterer. Jeg kalder herregårds-sitet for ikke særligt præcist. /sba-dk Fra: Soren Johannessen [mailto:soren.johannes...@gmail.com] Sendt: 17. august 2013 11:06 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] Herregårde The tag historic=manor may be used for country houses once used as manor house or mansion or as home of gentry / landowners http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmanor Mit spørgsmål er, hvilke danske herregårde anno 2013 bruges og har rettigheder til at fungere som små feudale jurdiske enheder med landgilde, fæstere, hoveri og mandlig arverækkefølge mm? Alle definitioner af herregård bruger ordet Var at det er noget i fortiden med herregårdideen og den verden findes ikke mere. Går vi til definitionen af Historic The historic=* key is used to identify features that are of historic interest.[...]The value in the historic tag is used to characterise the type of feature. [...]In practice the most useful values have been found to be: [...]Domestic structures: house, manor http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historic Vedr. brugen af building=manor kan gå an, men er ikke uden problemer tit. Fx dit eksempel med Sandbjerg Gods duer den ikke - Aarhus Universitet (ejeren) bruger bygningerne som kursussted og derved kan building=manor ikke bruges, du skal finde et egnet building=XX tag for kursusvirksomhed. Hvis du samtidigt vil angive at Sandbjerg Gods har været en herregård skal du bruge/indsætte historic=manor som ekstra tag. Andre herregårde (buiding tag) bruges måske som hotel, museum, kollektiv, forpagtet ud. OSM wiki nævner et godt eksempel For example: name=Durham Castle, building=university, historic=castle hvor building angiver hvad objektet er (bruges til) i nutid og hvad det var i fortiden. Den danske stat ejer vel ca. 300 af disse herregårde (forpagtet ud, museer etc) og derved kan vi ikke bruge building=manor, men skal bruge historic=manor for at vise at i fortiden blev det brugt som herregård. Jeg finder at det letteste tag er historic=manor at bruge hele vejen igennem. Vedr. Dansk Center for Herregårdsforskning - Herregårde, de (forskerne) er i tvivl om med herregårdslignende angiver de på deres kort med et andet ikon - Dem kan man så lade være med at tagge med historic=manor eller building=manor. Jeg ved ikke hvorfor du kalder forskningen svag og dårlig, fordi de ikke 100 % kan definere alle herregårde på nuværende tidspunkt i Danmark. Sådan arbejder forskningen jo ikke man får flere kilder undersøgt og mere viden dukker frem - man ændrer måske holdning med tid. Men vi må tage udgangspunkt i på nuværende tidspunkt i OpenStreetMap kortlægning, mener en bred del af forskere, turistfolk at XX navn er en herregård. Det kan godt være om 10 år så er betegner man det ikke som en herregård mere, så må det jo ændres til den tid i OpenStreetMap regi. Det vil være vildt anno 2013 at der dukker building=manor op på Bornholm, her vil ingen sige at Herregårdskonceptet har været i brug - man har haft storgård/proprietærgårde. Det kan godt være at om 10 år man er blevet klogere og så må dette jo ændres. Dine eksempler fra Sønderjylland kan du jo maile og spørge dem hvad grunden er? Måske en studentermedhjælper har glemt at smide det på kortet eller lign. Vedr. brugen af ordet slot efter et navn Egeskov Slot, Gavnø Slot betyder jo ikke at folk ikke opfatter og klassificere det ind i historic=castle per auto refleks. Der er næppe nogen OSM frivillige på Vesterbro som vil placere Cafe Erik, Cafe Grotten, Cafe Sommersted (værtshuse) under amenity=cafe bare fordi ordet cafe omtræder i deres navne. - ikke enig 2013/8/16 Sonny B. Andersen s...@bukhmark.dk Som der skrives på herregårdsforskning.dk http://xn--herregrdsforskning-9tb.dk Ud over disse herregårde, så medtager kortet en række gårde med herregårdslignende træk - det er altså ikke særlig præcist, men de udtrykker det også på denne måde ...opfattelsen af den danske herregård naturligvis fortsat er under udvikling. - Det undrer mig i øvrigt, at der ikke er nogen herregårde i Sønderjylland før 2011, bortset fra Ballegård (fra 1771) på 1770-kortet, som trods sin adresse og kortposition er oplyst hørende til Randers Amt. Den er i øvrigt forsvundet på de øvrige kort, og det er altså ikke så godt, fordi Historisk Samfund skal på herregårdsudflugt dér inden så længe. Og så er Gråsten Slot betegnet som en herregård, men ikke de tre øvrige slotte i Sønderborg Kommune. - Men det er da en flot web-site. Når turistfolk og Kulturstyrelsen (tidl. Kulturarvstyrelsen) kan rode rundt i navnet på Sandbjerg og når Gram, Schackenborg,
Re: [Talk-dk] Herregårde
Hvordan ved jeg med mig selv at historic=manor er forkert? Ja jeg tager den lette vej historic=manor - når der ikke gives noget andet bud på et bedre tag (building=manor har jeg nævnt problemer med)pt. for danske herregårde. Der svares ikke på Er herregård konceptet en historisk konstruktion og en virkelighed der ikke findes mere? historic taget skal det ikke bruges til features der omhandler historiske interessant emner? Hvorfor kan historic=manor ikke bruges ? - Hvis der bred enighed om at ca. 700 gårde er herregårde, hvorfor må OSM frivillige så ikke tagge disse historic=manor? building taget skal afspejle hvad det bruges til på et givent her og nu tidspunkt - fx kirker nedlæges og kan blive til lejligheder, kulturhuse, supermarkeder osv - så for at vise i fortiden at bygningen var brugt til kirke tilføjes historic=church Jeg kalder herregårds-sitet for ikke særligt præcist. Jeg spørger hvorfor vil du have at videnskaben/historikere skal have en 100 % definition på hvilke gårde i Danmark er herregårde? Viden og de gængse opfattelser ændrer sig jo over tid. Jeg mener ikke at Dansk Center for Herregårdsforskning har slået rent plat og krone om hvorvidt en gård er herregård eller ej. De gør selv opmærksom på dem de er tvivl om på kortet med andet slags ikon. Disse tvivl om herregårde bliver der helt sikkert forsket i kilderne for at blive klogere på. 2013/8/17 Sonny B. Andersen s...@bukhmark.dk Jeg opponerer stadig imod, at du vælger den letteste udvej, som du oven i købet ved er forkert. - Jeg synes ærligt talt, at vi burde kunne gøre det bedre. ** ** I mine øjne er hovedbygningen til Sandbjerg Gods en herregårdslignende bygning, så derfor er bulding=manor korrekt. ** ** I øvrigt vil jeg godt have mig frabedt, at du fejlciterer. Jeg kalder herregårds-sitet for ikke særligt præcist. ** ** /sba-dk ** ** *Fra:* Soren Johannessen [mailto:soren.johannes...@gmail.com] *Sendt:* 17. august 2013 11:06 *Til:* OpenStreetMap Denmark *Emne:* Re: [Talk-dk] Herregårde ** ** The tag historic=manor may be used for country houses once used as manor house or mansion or as home of gentry / landowners http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmanor ** ** ** ** Mit spørgsmål er, hvilke danske herregårde anno 2013 bruges og har rettigheder til at fungere som små feudale jurdiske enheder med landgilde, fæstere, hoveri og mandlig arverækkefølge mm? ** ** Alle definitioner af herregård bruger ordet Var at det er noget i fortiden med herregårdideen og den verden findes ikke mere. ** ** Går vi til definitionen af Historic ** ** The historic=* key is used to identify features that are of historic interest.[...]The value in the historic tag is used to characterise the type of feature. [...]In practice the most useful values have been found to be: [...]Domestic structures: house, manor http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historic ** ** Vedr. brugen af building=manor kan gå an, men er ikke uden problemer tit. Fx dit eksempel med Sandbjerg Gods duer den ikke - Aarhus Universitet (ejeren) bruger bygningerne som kursussted og derved kan building=manor ikke bruges, du skal finde et egnet building=XX tag for kursusvirksomhed. Hvis du samtidigt vil angive at Sandbjerg Gods har været en herregård skal du bruge/indsætte historic=manor som ekstra tag. Andre herregårde (buiding tag) bruges måske som hotel, museum, kollektiv, forpagtet ud. ** ** OSM wiki nævner et godt eksempel For example: “name=Durham Castle”, “building=university”, “historic=castle” hvor building angiver hvad objektet er (bruges til) i nutid og hvad det var i fortiden. ** ** Den danske stat ejer vel ca. 300 af disse herregårde (forpagtet ud, museer etc) og derved kan vi ikke bruge building=manor, men skal bruge historic=manor for at vise at i fortiden blev det brugt som herregård.* *** ** ** ** ** Jeg finder at det letteste tag er historic=manor at bruge hele vejen igennem. ** ** ** ** Vedr. Dansk Center for Herregårdsforskning - Herregårde, de (forskerne) er i tvivl om med herregårdslignende angiver de på deres kort med et andet ikon - Dem kan man så lade være med at tagge med historic=manor eller building=manor. Jeg ved ikke hvorfor du kalder forskningen svag og dårlig, fordi de ikke 100 % kan definere alle herregårde på nuværende tidspunkt i Danmark. Sådan arbejder forskningen jo ikke man får flere kilder undersøgt og mere viden dukker frem - man ændrer måske holdning med tid. Men vi må tage udgangspunkt i på nuværende tidspunkt i OpenStreetMap kortlægning, mener en bred del af forskere, turistfolk at XX navn er en herregård. Det kan godt være om 10 år så er betegner man det ikke som en herregård mere, så må det jo ændres til den tid i OpenStreetMap regi. ** ** Det vil være vildt anno 2013 at der dukker building=manor op på Bornholm, her vil ingen sige at
Re: [Talk-es] Enlace A-2 con AP-7 de Fornells de la Selva
Ya puestos, también hay cambios en la unión de la A-3 con la AP-7 a la altura de Valencia Es un cambio mínimo, han adelantado la salida de la A-3 unos metros, nada más From: xbarn...@gmail.com To: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:49:37 +0200 Subject: Re: [Talk-es] Enlace A-2 con AP-7 de Fornells de la Selva En esta entrada por lo que he visto si. El dj 15 de 08 de 2013 a les 13:23 +0200, en/na Jan Esquerra va escriure: ok, entre todos lo mejoramos todo, ese es el espiritu de OSM, no? tengo entendido que viniendo del sur por la A2 solo se puede coger la AP7 sentido norte. Mañana cojo track y me fijo en lo que pueda Salut 2013/8/15 xevi xbarn...@gmail.com Hola Jan, yo la acabo de marcar aunque por lo que he visto no hay numero de salida y solo es de un sentido. Si puedes mejorar algo de lo que he hecho lo lo dudes, tambien seria bueno revisar la zona de la union entre la N-2/A-2 y la AP7 ya que creo que alli tambien han hecho cambios http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/41.9228/2.7939 Saludos si no hay cambios de ultima hora, el viernes pasare por alli, de bajada y de subida 2013/8/14 Ricardo Sanz ricardosanz1...@gmail.com Buenos días, A ver si alguien de la zona puede mapear la puesta en marcha de este enlace: http://www.fomento.gob.es/NR/rdonlyres/70c901ad-d493-4933-b248-f3cf4014a438/119417/130813enlaceFornells.jpg ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-ca] Green alleys in Montréal (ruelles vertes)
Hi Guillaume, my two cents: since this seems to be a feature that is pretty much unique in Montreal, you'll probably have to come up with your own tagging. I would not introduce a new tag on the service=* level, as these primarily still appear to be alleys and a new tag on that level might break existing applications. So I'd say you could come up with something like: highway=service service=alley alley=green_alley plus whatever other characteristics the alley has (surface=*, smoothness*, access=*, ...). Cheers, Harald. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Guillaume Pratte guilla...@guillaumepratte.net wrote: Hello, I would like to have some advise on how best identify green alleys in OpenStreetMap data. Green alleys (ruelles vertes in French) are alleys that a group of local residents embellish with vegetation. Here is the Wikipedia page on the subject in Montréal: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruelle_verte Here is a link in English: http://kandkadventures.com/green-alleys-of-montreal/ These green alleys are identifiable because they have dedicated signs for them: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WTMTL_T52_DSF2289.JPG There are hundreds of them in Montréal: http://goo.gl/maps/cMaor The project seems unique to Montreal. Other cities have green alleys (Chicago, Austin (Texas), Seattle, City of Dubuque and some others), but the program in the states is about the permeability of the pavement: http://www.cityofchicago.org/dam/city/depts/cdot/Green_Alley_Handbook_2010.pdf However, in some cases, like the City of Dubuque, they also have a recognizable sign: http://www.dmgov.org/Government/CityCouncil/WorkshopDocuments/072511Green%20Alley%20Infrastructure.pdf (image on page 14) All of these green alleys are already identified as: highway = service service = alley Would it be possible to use some kind of green alley tag for these service alleys? Or would it be better to use a more general concept of a green space or of a community-driven green project? Thanks! Guillaume ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CartoPartie petit village en haute Savoie
Pour info, On parlera aussi de Vikidia http://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Accueil ou du moins voir avec le directeur de l'école pour une mise en lien avec le responsable. Il est fort probable que nous testions des UAV sur le terrain d’aéromodélisme du village +test d'un mini Server Tout terrain pour le postprocessing et diffusion image (A voir). Bon été FredM ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CartoPartie petite village en haute Savoie
Voilà: http://openstreetmap.fr/2013-08-31-cartopartie-vers Le 17 août 2013 10:09, frmoine frmo...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Est-il possible de mettre cet évènement sur le site d’OSM France. C’est plutôt une introduction au Cartopartie pour le directeur de l’école + enseignants, les habitants et le personnel de la mairie. http://www.vers74.fr/index.php?option=com_contentview=categorylayout=blogid=47Itemid=152 La carto partie sera organisée le samedi 31 aout 2013 de 15h à 17h à la mairie de vers 74160 C’est plutôt une introduction à OSM pour sensibiliser à l’utilisation de données libres et aussi de voir comment on peut intégrer la cartographie dans une mairie et école de la commune. Je réalise aussi plusieurs supports pédagogiques pour les enfants et une carte d’orientation ludique pour les sorties de l’école. S’il y a des cartographes OSM en Haute Savoie, ce sera avec plaisir de pouvoir vous rencontrer lors de cet évènement ou en dehors et pourquoi pas organiser des carto parties ailleurs, en ville ou milieu rural. A+ fredM ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Amélioration rendu FR sur les zooms faibles...
J'ai modifié la requête pour les noms de capitales, en effet, le schéma de tag est peu clair et il y a plein de variations: - is_capital=country - capital=yes + admin_level=2 - capital=2 La requête gère maintenant les 3 possibilités, et j'en ai profite pour compléter les quelques capitales pour lesquelles il manquait des infos. Les zoom jusqu'à 7 ont été recalculés, c'est nettement mieux. J'ai aussi mis les libellés un tout petit peu plus gros. Autre changement majeur: un patch à mapnik pour gérer différemment les limites entre metatile. L'effet est qu'il y a beaucoup moins de textes et cartouches coupés. Il m'en reste encore sur une requête très spéciale pour les noms de rues. Dès que celle-ci sera corrigée et les tuiles recalculées, je lancerai un concours où il y aura un pot de confiture (maison) à gagner si vous trouvez un texte coupé ;) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] man_made=power_tower au rapport
Le 17 août 2013 00:14, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Ok, un lien vers ces moyens ? Je parlais des ML. Ok c'est pas le moyen le plus commode j'en conviens. Faut-il alors mettre en place un système plus robuste à base d'abonnement pour le suivi des propositions ? (bien que tout ne passe pas par des propositions). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] man_made=power_tower au rapport
2013/8/16 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com: Encore mille excuses pour la surprise, pour l'émoi, le désagrément. Et en même temps, un peu fier... malgré ma f... connexion, d'avoir obtenu un tel résultat. Encore une fois, libre à vous de reverter : je ne suis pas propriétaire. Bon, ben, moi, j'ai testé le reverter de JOSM qui marche aussi très bien. J'ai pas encore compris l'intérêt de changer 12.000 tags en France alors qu'il y en a 5 millions dans le monde. Si c'était pour voir si c'était possible avec JOSM, on aurait pu aussi bien te le confirmer. Ou alors, c'est peut-être pour voir combien de temps ceux qui utilisent ces données vont mettre pour constater leur disparition dans leur chaîne de traitement. Franchement, je préférerais utiliser mon temps à des choses plus productives. Ca me donne l'impression d'être pion dans une cour d'école... Pieren ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] man_made=power_tower au rapport
Le 17/08/2013 21:21, Pieren a écrit : Ou alors, c'est peut-être pour voir combien de temps ceux qui utilisent ces données vont mettre pour constater leur disparition dans leur chaîne de traitement. Oula... Calme... Je n'ai rien fait disparaître. J'ai ajouté un tag. -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSRM-talk] [Talk-lk] Downloading OSM data for Sri Lank
I am a newbie. What tool do I have to use when converting these information to *.osm? On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 6:57 PM, nimalika fernando nimali...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, CloudeMade one might be bit old but there are many places where you can download weekly updates. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm You can try other options available here Ex: http://osmdata.thinkgeo.com/ offer July 2013 data( I haven't look at the details) Nimalika ___ Talk-lk mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lk -- හිෂාන් මෙලංග | Hishan Melanga http://hishanmelanga.blogspot.com/ ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
county route shields are not rendered in California. What is required to get them in? I have checked relations are following the same style as in New York where shields are currently rendered. California uses the standard county shield and it doesn't make sense to create a wiki page like the one for Ohio. -- Apo On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net [2013-07-29 08:17 -0400]: one thing to consider in NY, though - not all counties use the yellow-on-blue pentagonal County Route signs. right now it's automagically using that style shield for all county routes. should we deal with this or let it go? I'd prefer to deal with it. I'd like the shields to match actual road signs as much as possible. If you can get me a list of what New York counties use which sign styles, I'll work on getting the rendering to match them. For what it's worth, Minh Nguyen has been working with other Ohio mappers to both get Ohio's county routes into OSM and to document the signage (and the tagging they're using) at http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Ohio/Route_relations/Networks ; I would not at all object if people put together similar references for other states with diverse county sign styles. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 8/17/13 2:19 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: county route shields are not rendered in California. What is required to get them in? I have checked relations are following the same style as in New York where shields are currently rendered. California uses the standard county shield and it doesn't make sense to create a wiki page like the one for Ohio. i don't think CA has a shield configuration file yet either. i'm not sure how Phil wants to go about getting these into place. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-ht] Croix-Rouge : Cartographie, Nord de Haiti
Bonjour a tous. Robert Banick de la Croix-Rouge invite la communauté HOT à contribuer à cartographier le nord de Haiti. Voici la traduction de son communiqué et salutations aux amis de Haiti. Pierre Salut à tous, Je vous écris pour demander l'assistance de la communauté HOT avec une sériede tâches que la Croix-Rouge américaine a ajouté au Gestionnaire de tâches de HOT. Nous cherchons à cartographier les routes, les bâtiments et l'occupation du sol pour6 sections communales dans le nord de Haïti ciblées pour d'importants travaux de la Croix-Rouge au cours des années à venir. Les tâches en questionsont : Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 Vue d'ensemble Nous allons travailler dans plus de 100 communautés au sein de ces sections communales et aimerions vraiment avoir des cartes détaillées et exactes des communautés et des territoires avoisinants. Nous avons prévu de travailler avec des haïtiens bénévoles de la Croix-Rouge et du personnel e de cartographier beaucoup par nous-mêmes. Cependant, il y a juste trop de terrain à couvrir à l'intérieur de notre calendrier. On a donc pensé démarrer en invitant les contributeurs OSM pour une phase initiale. Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour créer une carte des zones en question, avec en ordre d'importance : routes, bâtiments, occupation du sol. À partir de là, nos équipes présentes sur le terrain pourront enrichir la carte de base dans OSM pour les communautés en question. Nous allons ensuite utiliser des modules SIG participatifs s'appuyant OSM pour notre processus d'évaluation. L'objectif final? Analyse plus approfondie menant à une programmation plus réactive. Et la preuve du concept qu'OSM est un choix naturel pour les travaux de SIG participatif. Au plaisir Notre espoir est de s'appuyer sur l'excellent travail déjà accompli par l'équipe HOT dans le Nord d'Haïti. Nous avons été en contact avec l'équipe à partir de là et nous espérons travailler avec le personnel local HOT formé pendant le récent programme. Nous vous inforerons davantage à mesure de l'avancement des travaux. Merci à tous ceux qui ont contribué à ces tâches jusqu'ici. Amitiés, Robert De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org À : h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Cc : Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.org; Joseph, Daniel B. daniel.jos...@redcross.org; Folkman, Emma emma.folk...@redcross.org Envoyé le : Samedi 17 août 2013 11h59 Objet : [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti Hi All, I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager. We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the coming years. The tasks in question: Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 The overview We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe. As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads, buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS module leveraging OSM within our assessment process. The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming. And proof of the concept that OSM is a natural fit for participatory GIS work. Looking forward Our hope is to build on the work on the excellent work already done by the HOT team in the North of Haiti. We've been in contact with the team from there and hope to work with the local HOT staff trained up during the recent program. More on that as it comes. Thank you to all who have contributed to these tasks so far. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [Talk-ht] Croix-Rouge : Cartographie, Nord de Haiti
Hello, Heureux de te lire Pierre... Je pense que la communaute sera contente de cette idee, je suis dispo si seulement ils auront besoin d'aide *ALCE Samuel Paul, * *Géo-Information Specialist **OpenStreetMap** contributor in Haiti (509) 4638-4875 / 3921-7181 / 4289-7651 Skype: samuelalce* Le 17 août 2013 11:42, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour a tous. Robert Banick de la Croix-Rouge invite la communauté HOT à contribuer à cartographier le nord de Haiti. Voici la traduction de son communiqué et salutations aux amis de Haiti. Pierre Salut à tous, Je vous écris pour demander l'assistance de la communauté HOT avec une sériede tâches que la Croix-Rouge américaine a ajouté au Gestionnaire de tâches de HOT. Nous cherchons à cartographier les routes, les bâtiments et l'occupation du sol pour6 sections communales dans le nord de Haïti ciblées pour d'importants travaux de la Croix-Rouge au cours des années à venir. Les tâches en questionsont : Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 Vue d'ensemble Nous allons travailler dans plus de 100 communautés au sein de ces sections communales et aimerions vraiment avoir des cartes détaillées et exactes des communautés et des territoires avoisinants. Nous avons prévu de travailler avec des haïtiens bénévoles de la Croix-Rouge et du personnel e de cartographier beaucoup par nous-mêmes. Cependant, il y a juste trop de terrain à couvrir à l'intérieur de notre calendrier. On a donc pensé démarrer en invitant les contributeurs OSM pour une phase initiale. Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour créer une carte des zones en question, avec en ordre d'importance : routes, bâtiments, occupation du sol. À partir de là, nos équipes présentes sur le terrain pourront enrichir la carte de base dans OSM pour les communautés en question. Nous allons ensuite utiliser des modules SIG participatifs s'appuyant OSM pour notre processus d'évaluation. L'objectif final? Analyse plus approfondie menant à une programmation plus réactive. Et la preuve du concept qu'OSM est un choix naturel pour les travaux de SIG participatif. Au plaisir Notre espoir est de s'appuyer sur l'excellent travail déjà accompli par l'équipe HOT dans le Nord d'Haïti. Nous avons été en contact avec l'équipe à partir de là et nous espérons travailler avec le personnel local HOT formé pendant le récent programme. Nous vous inforerons davantage à mesure de l'avancement des travaux. Merci à tous ceux qui ont contribué à ces tâches jusqu'ici. Amitiés, Robert De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org À : h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Cc : Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.org; Joseph, Daniel B. daniel.jos...@redcross.org; Folkman, Emma emma.folk...@redcross.org Envoyé le : Samedi 17 août 2013 11h59 Objet : [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti Hi All, I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager. We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the coming years. The tasks in question: Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 The overview We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe. As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads, buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS module leveraging OSM within our assessment process. The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming. And proof of the concept that OSM is a natural fit for participatory GIS work. Looking forward Our hope is to build on the work on the excellent work already done by the HOT team in the North of Haiti. We've been in contact with the team from there and hope to work with the local HOT staff trained up during
Re: [Talk-ht] Croix-Rouge : Cartographie, Nord de Haiti
COSMHANNE serait contente de cette initiative, nous sommes disponible. Le 17 août 2013 13:03, ALCE, Samuel Paul alcesamuelp...@gmail.com a écrit : Hello, Heureux de te lire Pierre... Je pense que la communaute sera contente de cette idee, je suis dispo si seulement ils auront besoin d'aide *ALCE Samuel Paul, * *Géo-Information Specialist **OpenStreetMap** contributor in Haiti (509) 4638-4875 / 3921-7181 / 4289-7651 Skype: samuelalce* Le 17 août 2013 11:42, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour a tous. Robert Banick de la Croix-Rouge invite la communauté HOT à contribuer à cartographier le nord de Haiti. Voici la traduction de son communiqué et salutations aux amis de Haiti. Pierre Salut à tous, Je vous écris pour demander l'assistance de la communauté HOT avec une sériede tâches que la Croix-Rouge américaine a ajouté au Gestionnaire de tâches de HOT. Nous cherchons à cartographier les routes, les bâtiments et l'occupation du sol pour6 sections communales dans le nord de Haïti ciblées pour d'importants travaux de la Croix-Rouge au cours des années à venir. Les tâches en questionsont : Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 Vue d'ensemble Nous allons travailler dans plus de 100 communautés au sein de ces sections communales et aimerions vraiment avoir des cartes détaillées et exactes des communautés et des territoires avoisinants. Nous avons prévu de travailler avec des haïtiens bénévoles de la Croix-Rouge et du personnel e de cartographier beaucoup par nous-mêmes. Cependant, il y a juste trop de terrain à couvrir à l'intérieur de notre calendrier. On a donc pensé démarrer en invitant les contributeurs OSM pour une phase initiale. Nous avons besoin de votre aide pour créer une carte des zones en question, avec en ordre d'importance : routes, bâtiments, occupation du sol. À partir de là, nos équipes présentes sur le terrain pourront enrichir la carte de base dans OSM pour les communautés en question. Nous allons ensuite utiliser des modules SIG participatifs s'appuyant OSM pour notre processus d'évaluation. L'objectif final? Analyse plus approfondie menant à une programmation plus réactive. Et la preuve du concept qu'OSM est un choix naturel pour les travaux de SIG participatif. Au plaisir Notre espoir est de s'appuyer sur l'excellent travail déjà accompli par l'équipe HOT dans le Nord d'Haïti. Nous avons été en contact avec l'équipe à partir de là et nous espérons travailler avec le personnel local HOT formé pendant le récent programme. Nous vous inforerons davantage à mesure de l'avancement des travaux. Merci à tous ceux qui ont contribué à ces tâches jusqu'ici. Amitiés, Robert De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org À : h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org Cc : Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.org; Joseph, Daniel B. daniel.jos...@redcross.org; Folkman, Emma emma.folk...@redcross.org Envoyé le : Samedi 17 août 2013 11h59 Objet : [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti Hi All, I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager. We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the coming years. The tasks in question: Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 The overview We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe. As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads, buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS module leveraging OSM within our assessment process. The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming. And proof of the concept that
