Re: [OSM-talk] Data filter
On 1/12/2015 1:30 AM, Steve Chilton wrote: Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please? For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project. How can I select ‘my contributions in UK’ and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Any help gratefully received. There's a few options, but it depends what you mean precisely. Each object in OSM can be a mix of multiple contributions, which is the strength of the project. It just makes what you're asking hard, and it's important to define precisely what you want with your contributions. The easy way is if you just want objects that you touched last - then you can do simple filtering on a UK extract, or import into a database with metadata and select out what you want. The latter is what I would do for working with standard GIS tools. This is easy, but inaccurate for reasons I'll come to. You could download your changesets - but this won't be usable by any standard GIS packages, or in fact, by anything in isolation. If you are after data that consists solely of your intellectual property, it's harder - what you've contributed is built on others, so separating that out isn't trivial. The tools are there, but they've never been used quite for that application, and the number of people who understand them is approximately 1. The reason why this is a hard question is the nature of a crowd-sourced project, and the OSM data model. Consider a highway which someone creates and tags with highway=primary. Suppose you then come along and add a name tag. Depending on what you're doing you might then want the entire highway included in the file of your contributions, even though you didn't contribute to the geometry. Another case is if you move some nodes in a highway but don't add new ones. You actually haven't made a new version of the the highway. I might be able to help more, but need more information on the use case first. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Data filter
Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please? For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project. How can I select 'my contributions in UK' and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Any help gratefully received. Cheers Steve Steve Chilton FSEDA, Teaching Fellow Lead Academic Developer Centre for Academic Practice Enhancement (CAPE) Middlesex University phone: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.ukmailto:ste...@mdx.ac.uk Profile: http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8 Blog: http://itsahill.wordpress.com/ Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ Chair of ICA Neocartography Commission: http://neocartography.icaci.org/ [cid:image001.jpg@01D02E4A.6A7D0460] --- Please note that Middlesex University's preferred way of receiving all correspondence is via email in line with our Environmental Policy. All incoming post to Middlesex University is opened and scanned by our digital document handler, CDS, and then emailed to the recipient. If you do not want your correspondence to Middlesex University processed in this way please email the recipient directly. Parcels, couriered items and recorded delivery items will not be opened or scanned by CDS. There are items which are exceptions which will be opened by CDS but will not be scanned a full list of these can be obtained by contacting the University. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-cz] Přebírání dat od měst
nevím zda se to tu již řešilo, ale zeptám se. Pokud dá nějaké město (v tomto případě Plzeň) souhlas s odvozováním ze svých mapových podkladů, jaké formality je k tomu potřeba splnit? Někde to nahlásit či stačí obecné info z jejich strany, že je to možné? Na Wikipedii se převzaté články hlásí do nějakého systému. *** pokud jen odvozování z cizí mapy pak jen zmínit tady: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Czech_Republic/freemap *** pokud by šlo o automatizovaný (strojový) import tak navíc ještě dle návodu zde: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines *** ze strany majitele dat (gestora) je třeba nějaký dobropis, e-mail, dopis, licence, zákon nebo metadata, kde je váš záměr potvrzen implicitně nebo explicitně jako legální. Pokud by šlo o legalitu z podstaty obecného dokumentu (zákon, licence), pak je vhodné zdůvodnit výklad. ha hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Lantaarnpalen en - nummers
Beste Hendrikklaas, Ik wilde er een paar handmatig toevoegen maar als de gemeente een bestand heeft met alles in een keer lijkt me het beter om daar op te wachten. Ik neem aan dat een grote stad dat wel digitaal heeft. Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee zoiets op te vragen? Met vriendelijke groet, Sander On 01/10/2015 10:06 PM, St Niklaas wrote: Beste Pander, Beetje laat misschien, sorry. Wordt het lantaarnpalen bestand aangeboden en is het compleet ? Zo ja, wat zit er dan in, standplaats (hangend), materiaal, soort, type, verlichtingssoort (lamp) en bovenal, beheerder en eigenaar ? Om van schakel schema's nog maar niet te spreken. Is dat allemaal aanwezig in het te importeren bestand ? Met een vriendelijke groet Hendrikklaas ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl -- Stichting OpenTaal http://opentaal.org http://twitter.com/opentaal ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Je pense que j'ai la réponse courte : c'est l'optimisation sur le temps de trajet qui fait passer par là : http://osrm.at/aCb Supprime le point de passage indiqué sur la bretelle, le temps augmente (il faut juste un peu bidouiller au départ pour se retrouver à l'intermédiaire entre 1 et 2 minutes). Pour la réponse longue, je pense qu'il faudrait regarder ce qui impacte sur le temps de trajet : vitesse maxi, et je ne sais pas si OSRM prend en charge les feux de circulation/cédez le passage/stop. JB. Le 12/01/2015 11:08, Nicolas Dumoulin a écrit : Bonjour, Un ami m'a fait remarqué un problème de routage avec osmand, qui est reproductible avec osrm : http://osrm.at/aCa Pourquoi la (longue) bretelle sur la droite n'est pas empruntée ? Rien sur osmose, et j'ai regardé les données mais je ne vois pas ce qui cloche … Merci ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-es] Comunicación a CIMA2015
Hola de nuevo, Acabo de leer que se ha ampliado el plazo de envío de resúmenes una semana más (hasta el día 19): http://cima2015.es/Noticia.asp?id=26 Oscar Zorrilla se ha animado activamente a echarme una mano e incluir su ediciones al norte de Burgos como estudio. Ahora que tenemos unos cuantos días más por delante toda ayuda/aportación/sugerencia será bienvenida y os agradezco de antemano vuestra participación. Creo sinceramente que puede ser una muy buena oportunidad para que la gente de las federaciones de montañismo conozcan OSM y promuevan su uso, creo que puede ser una muy buena simbiosis para el proyecto y para las federaciones. Podéis ir viendo (y participando, claro) cómo va quedando el documento de google drive: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DAqpmIvivla5Y6ZCXGZiKjs7hcMHMjPmbzfVYvCWRi8/edit# Un saludo Miguel *[image: Geo]**Miguel Sevilla Callejo* *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography* *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant Researcher* Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish Professional Association of Geographers Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo 2015-01-09 14:43 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo miguel.sevi...@uam.es: Hola a todos, Os escribo para ver si me podéis echar una mano e incluso si os apetece participar en una comunicación que estoy preparando para el CIMA2015 http://www.cima2015.es, un congreso internacional sobre montañas que se va a celebrar a finales de marzo en Zaragoza y donde algunos de los organizadores que conozco, me han animado a presentar algo sobre OSM y senderos de montaña. La cosa es que me he liado la manta a la cabeza y quiero presentar una comunicación (o en su defecto, si no les parece suficientemente relevante a los organizadores, un póster) sobre la potencialidad que tiene el uso de OSM en la publicación/divulgación de senderos de montaña (creo que habría que hablar más propiamente de senderos homologados) para la gente de las federaciones regionales de montañismo (pues son estas federaciones las responsables de la homologación y registro de los senderos). Antes del próximo lunes (si, el lunes!, ya se que lo he dejado para el último día) he de presentar un resumen de una comunicación de carácter científico en la web del congreso y he estado trabajando estos días en ello. He contactado con alguno de vosotros por otras vías pero finalmente me animo a compartir esto a la lista de OSM ahora que tengo un borrador de resumen y las ideas más claras. Mi idea inicial era poder implicaros para poder realizar una comunicación en comunidad, puesto que no me veo representativo del proyecto OSM, pero visto el tiempo que me queda, no se si ya estoy a tiempo. De todos modos ahí va mi idea: Como la comunicación ha de ser una comunicación de carácter científico y no sirve una exposición de las características y bondades de OSM, la comunicación ha de estructurarse con el clásico esquema; introducción, métodos, resultados, discusión, conclusiones,referencias... se me ocurrió que se puede estructurar la idea aprovechando un estudio de caso, por ejemplo en el pirineo aragonés (que es lo que me pilla cerca y conozco algo mejor), aunque en el fondo lo que busco es vender OSM a las federaciones de montaña para poder fortalecer y hacer crecer el proyecto. En el siguiente enlace tenéis el documento de google documents donde tengo las notas y el borrador de comunicación llevo escrito hasta el momento. Sentiros libres para hacer las correcciones/comentarios que creáis relevantes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DAqpmIvivla5Y6ZCXGZiKjs7hcMHMjPmbzfVYvCWRi8/edit?usp=sharing No tengo ningún interés específico en ser el autor único de la comunicación o sea que estoy abierto a que se incorpore quién lo desee. Desgraciadamente marcho de viaje ahora y regreso (tendré de nuevo conexión) el domingo por la tarde, o sea que a penas me quedarán 24 horas para poder incorporar y terminar el resumen antes de que finalice el plazo de presentación pero os agradezco de antemano toda vuestra ayuda y colaboración. Un saludo Miguel (msevilla00 en OSM) *[image: Geo]**Miguel Sevilla Callejo* *Doctor en Geografía | Doctor in Geography* *Consultor freelance e investigador | Freelance Consultant Researcher* Colaborador del Instituto Pirenaico de Ecología, CSIC, Zaragoza | Fellow at the Pyrenean Institute of Ecology - Spanish National Research Council Colegiado nº698, Colegio Oficial de Geógrafos | Member #698, Spanish Professional Association of Geographers Web: http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org
Re: [Talk-de] Start-/Landebahn
Ich dachte dass moderne Flughaefen normalerweise symmetrische Landebahnen haben, die Benutzungsrichtung haengt von der aktuellen Windrichtung ab. 2015-01-12 11:36 GMT+01:00 Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Am 09.01.2015 18:35, schrieb Martin Scholtes: Hallo zusammen, ich hätte da eine Frage. Kann man eine Start-/Landebahn als Fläche taggen oder sollte man nur einen Way draus machen? Einen way. Eine Piste ist gerichtet, Tags wie incline=* wäre für Flächen sinnlos. Die Breite lässt sich problemlos als width beschreiben. Das deutsche Wiki zu aeroway=runway ist eindeutig, das englische leider nicht. Früher hat man manchmal runde Grasplätze gebaut und ist jeweils gegen den Wind gestartet und gelandet. Falls es solche Plätze ohne definierte Landerichtung noch gibt, wäre dort eine Fläche als runway angemessen. Gruß Stephan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Bon, je suis peut-être pas le seul à l'avoir regardé, mais en effet, le petit tronçon entre les deux voies est bien en sens unique, il y a bien une interdiction de tourner à gauche depuis la grande route… Et ça règlera le problème tout seul, puisque la manœuvre ne sera plus autorisée par OSRM. JB. Le 12/01/2015 13:00, Nicolas Dumoulin a écrit : Merci pour vos retours intéressants. Le lundi 12 janvier 2015 11:41:15 Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : Le 12/01/2015 11:37, Christian Quest a écrit : Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Si c'est plus rapide...d'après les calculs. On roule plus vite sur la primary que sur le primary_link. Ok. Et ça vous paraît logique de passer le bout de la Rue Champfleuri de primary à primary_link : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161868998 Ça résoudrait peut-être le pb … -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-be] Updates voor de CRAB import tool
In de laatste dagen heeft de CRAB import tool enkele visuele verbeteringen doorgekregen. - De tabel met straten krijgt nu ook een achtergrondkleurtje om de compleetheid eenvoudiger te zien. Van rood (0%) tot groen (100%), net zoals de kaart. - Bovenaan de tabel wordt er nu een samenvatting gegeven met daarin hoeveel adressen er zijn, hoeveel er nog tekort zijn, ... - De compleetheid wordt ook als percentage in een kolom weergegeven. Hoewel deze nummers geen links zijn, kunnen ze wel gebruikt worden om de straten te sorteren (klik op het kolomhoofd daarvoor) Daarnaast is er ook een technische verbetering. De vroegere versie had het soms moeilijk met grenzen. Als een grens een huis raakte (wat soms niet anders kon met grenzen door een rij aanpalende huizen), dan bracht Overpass huizen onder in twee gebieden (waarvan er één verkeerd is). In dat geval voeg je best een addr:postcode (en eventueel addr:city) tag toe om die problemen weg te werken. De postcode tag is nu ondersteund (maar enkel samen met de postcode grens). Groeten, Sander ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[Talk-it] Exploratori della domenica
Ciao, mi segnalano sulla pagina facebook una pubblicazione cartacea di questo sito[0] che non presenta indicazione di licenza http://imgur.com/rNrQrXr Sono stati contattati dall'utente e gli è stato risposto che hanno provveduto ad attribuire nel colofone, ma non si trova traccia. Saluti, Stefano [0] http://www.exploratoridelladomenica.it/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Altare, quale tag?
2015-01-11 21:52 GMT+01:00 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it: ho cercato in rete ma non ho trovato niente di specifico e mi pare strano. come si tagga un semplice altare, cioè si tratta soltanto di un tavolino fissato al terreno senza nessun'altra struttura chiusa attorno sul quale saltuariamente viene celebrata una messa. si trova quindi all'aperto e spesso è vicino ad una croce o ad un crocefisso. che dite? un tag per un altare non abbiamo ancora, ma potrebbe benissimo esserci (anche per taggare l'altare dentro una chiesa). Invece se vuoi taggare tutta la situazione (compreso lo spazio intorno ecc.) il tag è amenity=place_of_worship. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] Data filter
A totally different approach for a very small part you could use Overpass: replace with your username. The following query only returns the ways in the bbox of which was the last modifier. [out:json][timeout:25]; // gather results (way({{bbox}});)-.a; ( // query part for: “user=” way.a(user: )-.e; ); // print results out body; ; out skel qt; On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please? For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project. How can I select ‘my contributions in UK’ and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Any help gratefully received. Cheers Steve Steve Chilton FSEDA, Teaching Fellow Lead Academic Developer Centre for Academic Practice Enhancement (CAPE) Middlesex University phone: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk Profile: http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8 Blog: http://itsahill.wordpress.com/ Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ Chair of ICA Neocartography Commission: http://neocartography.icaci.org/ *[image: MDX LOGO]* * --- * *Please note that Middlesex University's preferred way of receiving all correspondence is via email in line with our Environmental Policy. All incoming post to Middlesex University is opened and scanned by our digital document handler, CDS, and then emailed to the recipient. If you do not want your correspondence to Middlesex University processed in this way please email the recipient directly. Parcels, couriered items and recorded delivery items will not be opened or scanned by CDS. There are items which are exceptions which will be opened by CDS but will not be scanned a full list of these can be obtained by contacting the University. * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA 3.0
Hi everyone, I am looking to import some data from a database where the data is licensed with CC-BY-SA 3.0. Would this be acceptable to OSM? I find this licensing issue very confusing. Sorry. Paul ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Communes nouvelles - fusion de communes
Le compte-rendu que tu pointe indique clairement 2 élus vont réfléchir à la motivation de cette demande, donc qu'il ne s'agit que d'un projet. Le nom de domaine www.sansais-lagarette.com a été créé le 15 juin 2010, je ne pense pas qu'on puisse utiliser cette info pour valider une décision du conseil municipal ... Comme l'a dit Florian, à mon avis rien de particulier à faire tant qu'il n'y a pas eu de décision officielle, si sur place tout le monde parle de la commune de sansais la garette le mieux est de le mettre dans le tag loc_name ! Sylvain Le 12 janvier 2015 06:11, Otourly Wiki otou...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Comme pour Wikipédia : tant que ce n'est pas officiel ça n'a pas lieu d'être mentionné. Après on peut toujours mettre un alt_name... Florian Le Dimanche 11 janvier 2015 23h59, PierreV belett...@hotmail.fr a écrit : Bonsoir, J'ai une petite question... Une commune voisine a décidé de changer de nom: Sansais en Sansais-la-Garette le 4 septembre 2014 sans avoir été voté http://www.sansais-lagarette.com/compte-rendu-du-conseil-municipal-du-4-septembre-2014.html Comme vous pouvez le voir le site officiel a déja pris le nouveau nom de la commune, et maintenant je viens de remarquer que Google l'a pris aussi. Malheureusement les démarches officielles prennent plus de temps. Alors puis-je modifier le nom sur OSM? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Communes-nouvelles-fusion-de-communes-tp5828618p5829735.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Altare, quale tag?
beh in effetti stavo pensando che in mancanza di un tag specifico potrei fare: amenity=place_of_worship denomination=catholic religion=christian description:it=altare tutto su un nodo. che dici, può andare? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Altare-quale-tag-tp5829721p5829795.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Lantaarnpalen en - nummers
Beste Sander, Ik wilde er een paar handmatig toevoegen maar als de gemeente een bestand heeft met alles in een keer lijkt me het beter om daar op te wachten. Ik neem aan dat een grote stad dat wel digitaal heeft.Tja ik denk het wel, maar er is de laatste tijd veel onderhoud uitbesteed. Je komt dan bv bij Liander uit en dan heb je 2 partners.Maar 't blijft de vraag wat van de genoemde items willen we dan opnemen ? En vooral wie verzorgd dat en houdt het bij ? En wil je weten of het een stalen, 'n breukzekere of aluminium mast is, met halogeen, natrium of ledverlichting ? Om van de hoogte of intensiteit nog maar niet te spreken. Ik kom in een plaats in midden Afrika een lantaarnpaal als icoon tegen, maar zag zo geen andere icoontjes. Staat er lichtmasten dan mag je van mij de way ook de tag lit=yes meegeven, eenvoudig en duidelijk. Heeft iemand hier ervaring mee zoiets op te vragen? Ik heb ooit geprobeerd de verkeersborden van de borden club te krijgen, maar dat is mislukt. Maar de import van het BAG is ook geregeld (itssofunny). Er is voor het vragen eigenlijk geen protocol, komt misschien nog wel eens. Maar de grondregel is verkennen en belangstellend vragen of er iets mogelijk is en zo ja/nee wie er iets van mag zeggen. Met een open vizier erin gaan, nee heb je en ja kun je krijgen. Een kruiwagen of naam is bij navraag om binnen te komen zeer handig, anders blijf je misschien bij de centraliste al steken en die zegt niets toe. Er loopt nu nog wel iets, geen import of misschien toch, maar dat is op deze wijze uitgevoerd. En de toekomst zal leren wat er ut komt. Hendrikklaas ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA 3.0
The SA versions of the CC commons licences prior to 4.0 are incompatible with both the CTs and the ODbL. The 4.0 version is some what out in the open because they are very new and AFAIK there has been no rigorous investigation of the compatibility issues, but it is unlikely that the situation is very much different. Simon Am 12.01.2015 um 15:07 schrieb Paul Churchley: Hi everyone, I am looking to import some data from a database where the data is licensed with CC-BY-SA 3.0. Would this be acceptable to OSM? I find this licensing issue very confusing. Sorry. Paul ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk
Am 11. Januar 2015 um 03:20 schrieb Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: Eine Kraftfahrstraße würde ich sehr wohl als trunk taggen... Das haben wir vor Jahren schon ausführlich diskutiert, und die Festlegung für Kraftfahrstraßen war das Tagging motorroad=yes, während der trunk tag für autobahnähnlich ausgebaute Nicht-autobahnen verwendet wird. Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Bonjour, Un ami m'a fait remarqué un problème de routage avec osmand, qui est reproductible avec osrm : http://osrm.at/aCa Pourquoi la (longue) bretelle sur la droite n'est pas empruntée ? Rien sur osmose, et j'ai regardé les données mais je ne vois pas ce qui cloche … Merci -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Le 12/01/2015 11:37, Christian Quest a écrit : Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Ça n'explique toutefois pas vraiment pourquoi OSRM prends un chemin aussi alambiqué. Si c'est plus rapide...d'après les calculs. On roule plus vite sur la primary que sur le primary_link. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
As a general rule, bicycles are prohibited from freeways in the US east of the Mississippi and allowed on rural freeways in the west. Of course this is a very broad definition and only a starting point for understanding. The key point is that people in the east often assume that bicycles are never allowed on freeways because they have never seen it, while people in the west assume that bicycles are allowed unless specifically prohibited. This results in confusion, to say the least. To deal with this you need to have the understanding of the general principles and then you have to actually know the local conditions. Kerry Irons From: John F. Eldredge [mailto:j...@jfeldredge.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:43 AM Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On January 11, 2015 8:10:04 PM stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:54 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote: I do not agree: again, I find no evidence (from the Oregon DOT map) that bicycles are explicitly designated legal on I-5. It may be the case that explicit statute specifies bicycles are allowed on I-5 in Oregon, but this map does not explicitly do so. Again, please note that no specific bike routes are designated on that map, either. It simply displays some highways as Interstates and some highways as containing wide shoulders or narrow shoulders. While not complaining about Oregon's DOT helping bicyclists better understand where they might or might not ride a bicycle in that state, I characterize these map data as early or underdeveloped w.r.t. helpful bicycle routing by a DOT. Oregon and Washington allow all modes on all routes unless otherwise posted. They have to explicitly sign exclusions, and they do. Here's the list for Oregon http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/docs/freeway_ban.pdf And Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm My previous post was California centric, going too far assuming for other states. (And fifty-at-a-time only in certain circumstances). A starting place (properly placed in the locus of each state, with perspective as a router might parse logic and build a routing set...) is the following: For 100% of ways with tag highway, set bicycle legality_status = legal. (This keeps everything still in the running.) Now, apply a per-state rule (could be a table lookup, could be a smarter data record): With both Washington and Oregon: exclude from our data set ways where helpful OSMers have tagged bicycle=no With California: exclude from our data set ways tagged highway=motorway, add to the set cycleways and highways tagged bicycle=yes. We are right in the middle of fifty ways of calculating a set. Those target objects might be elements of a bicycle route. As we get the tags right (critical, on the data and at the bottom) we must also treat the rules of what we seek from those data as critical, too (from the top, down). It's reaching across and shaking hands with a protocol, or a stack of protocols. It's data, syntax and semantics. When the sentence is grammatical (tags are correct for a parser), it clicks into place with the correct answer (renders as we wish). For the most part, we get it right. But we do need to understand the whole stack of what we do every once in a while, and pointing out data in California, treat like this, data in Oregon, Washington..., treat like that... is helpful to remember. Can we get to a place where everybody can do things (tag) just right for them and have it always work (render), everywhere every time? M, not without documentation and perhaps conversations like this. This is why documenting what we do and how we do it (and referring to the documentation, and trying to apply it strictly, unless it breaks, then perhaps talk about it and even improve it...) is so important. Listen, build, improve, repeat. Thank you (Paul, for your specific answer, as well as others for participating). SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Data filter
How can I select ‘my contributions in UK’ and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Hi Steve, *--- hard way * see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm/full and filter data with your user id. #1 download full history pbf: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/pbf/full-history/ (42Gb !!! ) xml: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/full-history/(59Gb) #2 cut area with osm-history-splitter , smaller the better ( UK ) https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-splitter [ there are some history extracts but no UK , http://osm.personalwerk.de/full-history-extracts/2014-11-24/ but you can test your workflow with nepal.osh.pbf ( it is only 23M ) ] #3. Load to PostgreSQL database with osm-history-importer https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-renderer #4. Filter PostgreSQL data ( hist_point ; hist_line ; hist_polygon ) with your user_name schema: https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-renderer/blob/master/importer/scheme/00-before.sql alternative solution: - using osmium library and write a simple code to - filter OSM history data with your user_id ( with pyosmium [ ptyhon library : https://github.com/osmcode/pyosmium ] or with node-osmium [ Javascript library : https://github.com/osmcode/node-osmium ] Cheers, Imre 2015-01-12 10:30 GMT+01:00 Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk: Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please? For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project. How can I select ‘my contributions in UK’ and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Any help gratefully received. Cheers Steve Steve Chilton FSEDA, Teaching Fellow Lead Academic Developer Centre for Academic Practice Enhancement (CAPE) Middlesex University phone: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk Profile: http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8 Blog: http://itsahill.wordpress.com/ Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ Chair of ICA Neocartography Commission: http://neocartography.icaci.org/ *[image: MDX LOGO]* * --- * *Please note that Middlesex University's preferred way of receiving all correspondence is via email in line with our Environmental Policy. All incoming post to Middlesex University is opened and scanned by our digital document handler, CDS, and then emailed to the recipient. If you do not want your correspondence to Middlesex University processed in this way please email the recipient directly. Parcels, couriered items and recorded delivery items will not be opened or scanned by CDS. There are items which are exceptions which will be opened by CDS but will not be scanned a full list of these can be obtained by contacting the University. * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Overpass da linea di comando: ottenere geojson, GML, shapefile, ecc .. ?
2015-01-12 13:45 GMT+01:00 cesare gerbino cesaregerb...@gmail.com: Ciao a tutti, ciao, ho provato a giochicchiare un po con overpass da linea di comando . Il mio obiettivo è quello di scaricare i dati dei civici di OSM presenti in Italia. Ho usato Overpass Turbo per mettere a punto la mia query da cui poi ho ricavato questa osm-script output=json union into=_ query into=_ type=node has-kv k=addr:housenumber modv= v=/ bbox-query e=20.01708984375 into=_ n=47.15984001304432 s=36.27970720524017 w=5.9765625/ /query /union print e= from=_ geometry=skeleton limit= mode=body n= order=id s= w=/ recurse from=_ into=_ type=down/ print e= from=_ geometry=skeleton limit= mode=skeleton n= order=quadtile s= w=/ /osm-script Salvata in un file CiviciItalia.txt, poi ho usato il seguente comando wget --post-file=CiviciItalia.txt http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter --output-document=CiviciItalia.json Tutto ok ottengo il mio bel json ma a questo punto non so come convertirlo in qualcos'altro, geojson, GML, shapefile, non importa me ne basta uno poi lo converto in quello che voglio con GDAL Suggerimenti? io, di solito scarico il file OSM e poi uso osmtogeojson ;-) (è il tool usando in overpassturbo per esportare i geojson) https://github.com/tyrasd/osmtogeojson Grazie mille anticipatamente Cesare Gerbino -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny vej Tom Kristensen Vej
Mikkel Kirkgaard Nielsen skrev: Der må være nogle lokalkendte der kan aflede placeringen ud fra nedenstående citat. Det er på den stikvej, der fra Ølsvej fører ind til en ny udstykning med direkte udsigt over Mariager Fjord. Det må dreje sig om enten lokalplan 31/2010 eller 49/2011: http://soap.plansystem.dk/pdfarchive/20_1367834_APPROVED_1289316759736.pdf http://soap.plansystem.dk/pdfarchive/20_1372278_APPROVED_1320402551349.pdf Der er ikke bygget noget på seneste luftfotos, og ifølge DAWA er der ikke tildelt adresser endnu. Så vi er nok lidt tidligt ude. Måske skulle man gøre dem opmærksom på, at vejnavnet ikke følger retningslinierne. Der mangler et genetiv-s. Der er iøvrigt en Tom Kristensens Vej på Amager, men det er nok en anden Tom Kristensen :-) - Jørgen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Merci pour vos retours intéressants. Le lundi 12 janvier 2015 11:41:15 Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : Le 12/01/2015 11:37, Christian Quest a écrit : Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Si c'est plus rapide...d'après les calculs. On roule plus vite sur la primary que sur le primary_link. Ok. Et ça vous paraît logique de passer le bout de la Rue Champfleuri de primary à primary_link : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161868998[1] Ça résoudrait peut-être le pb … -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161868998 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-it] Overpass da linea di comando: ottenere geojson, GML, shapefile, ecc .. ?
Ciao a tutti, ho provato a giochicchiare un po con overpass da linea di comando . Il mio obiettivo è quello di scaricare i dati dei civici di OSM presenti in Italia. Ho usato Overpass Turbo per mettere a punto la mia query da cui poi ho ricavato questa osm-script output=json union into=_ query into=_ type=node has-kv k=addr:housenumber modv= v=/ bbox-query e=20.01708984375 into=_ n=47.15984001304432 s=36.27970720524017 w=5.9765625/ /query /union print e= from=_ geometry=skeleton limit= mode=body n= order=id s= w=/ recurse from=_ into=_ type=down/ print e= from=_ geometry=skeleton limit= mode=skeleton n= order=quadtile s= w=/ /osm-script Salvata in un file CiviciItalia.txt, poi ho usato il seguente comando wget --post-file=CiviciItalia.txt http://overpass-api.de/api/interpreter --output-document=CiviciItalia.json Tutto ok ottengo il mio bel json ma a questo punto non so come convertirlo in qualcos'altro, geojson, GML, shapefile, non importa me ne basta uno poi lo converto in quello che voglio con GDAL Suggerimenti? Grazie mille anticipatamente Cesare Gerbino http://cesaregerbino.wordpress.com/ http://www.facebook.com/cesare.gerbino http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cesare-Gerbino-GIS-Blog/246234455498174?ref=hl https://twitter.com/CesareGerbino http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cesare-gerbino/56/494/77b ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Bonjour, Ne manque-t-il pas une interdiction de tourner à gauche, à la première intersection prise par l'itinéraire ? (à vérifier sur le terrain, bien sûr...) Francescu Le 12 janvier 2015 11:08, Nicolas Dumoulin nicolas_openstreetmap@dumoulin63.net a écrit : Bonjour, Un ami m'a fait remarqué un problème de routage avec osmand, qui est reproductible avec osrm : http://osrm.at/aCa Pourquoi la (longue) bretelle sur la droite n'est pas empruntée ? Rien sur osmose, et j'ai regardé les données mais je ne vois pas ce qui cloche … Merci -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Francescu ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Le 12/01/2015 11:14, JB a écrit : Je pense que j'ai la réponse courte : c'est l'optimisation sur le temps de trajet qui fait passer par là : http://osrm.at/aCb Supprime le point de passage indiqué sur la bretelle, le temps augmente (il faut juste un peu bidouiller au départ pour se retrouver à l'intermédiaire entre 1 et 2 minutes). Pour la réponse longue, je pense qu'il faudrait regarder ce qui impacte sur le temps de trajet : vitesse maxi, et je ne sais pas si OSRM prend en charge les feux de circulation/cédez le passage/stop. JB. Le feux de circulation oui : 2s de pénalité. Les autres non. À mon avis il faut surtout vérifier s'il n'y a une interdiction de tourner à gauche. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Ça n'explique toutefois pas vraiment pourquoi OSRM prends un chemin aussi alambiqué. Le 12/01/2015 11:30, Frédéric Rodrigo a écrit : Le 12/01/2015 11:14, JB a écrit : Je pense que j'ai la réponse courte : c'est l'optimisation sur le temps de trajet qui fait passer par là : http://osrm.at/aCb Supprime le point de passage indiqué sur la bretelle, le temps augmente (il faut juste un peu bidouiller au départ pour se retrouver à l'intermédiaire entre 1 et 2 minutes). Pour la réponse longue, je pense qu'il faudrait regarder ce qui impacte sur le temps de trajet : vitesse maxi, et je ne sais pas si OSRM prend en charge les feux de circulation/cédez le passage/stop. JB. Le feux de circulation oui : 2s de pénalité. Les autres non. À mon avis il faut surtout vérifier s'il n'y a une interdiction de tourner à gauche. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Le 12/01/2015 11:37, Christian Quest a écrit : Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Effectivement, puisque seuls les véhicules venant du nord peuvent tourner vers la Rue Champfleuri. Sinon, la bretelle https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être connectée à l'avenue Fernand Forest un peu plus au nord, juste avant le début de la ligne blanche continue. On dirait que pour Osrm, couper la route du sens de circulation opposée ne donne pas de malus sur le temps de trajet. C'est dommage, surtout quand on sait à quel point ce genre de manoeuvre est compliquée lorsque la circulation est dense. Stf ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[talk-ph] Draft task for UAV imagery over Hagupit/Ruby affected areas for your review
Dear everyone, We are currently processing the tiles of the UAV imagery collected by SkyEye over a few areas affected by Hagupit/Ruby. The draft task is here: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/837 Before we publish the task and invite everyone to use it for tracing, I would like you guys to review the tasking manager instructions (an edit if you can). So far, we don't have any request for doing damage assessment so we will use this for usual basemapping. I noticed that the imagery doesn't align well with the current data. Aside from Can-avid which has a few GPS tracks, the rest doesn't have public traces we can align/correct the imagery. Happy new year! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny vej Tom Kristensen Vej
Hejsa. Så ham også modtage skiltet, og tænkte straks på osm :). Der må være nogle lokalkendte der kan aflede placeringen ud fra nedenstående citat. Det er på den stikvej, der fra Ølsvej fører ind til en ny udstykning med direkte udsigt over Mariager Fjord. http://www.nordjyske.dk/artikel/tom-k-har-faaet-sin-egen-vej/83ce70e9-610b-4be3-b8ad-b9257a0d9403/1/1201 Mikkel On 12. jan. 2015 07.18.55 CET, Henrik Puukka-Sørensen hen...@puukka-sorensen.dk wrote: Jeg har skrevet direkte til Mariagerfjord Kommune for at finde ud af hvor vejen er. Venlig hilsen Henrik Puukka-Sørensen Den 11. jan. 2015, Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com skrev: Hej alle sammen Nogen lokalkendte i Hobro - Tom Kristensen har fået en vej opkaldt efter sig Tom Kristensen Vej Jeg har prøvet via flere artikler at spore hvor den vej så befinder sig men har opgivet http://sporten.tv2.dk/motorsport/2015-01-10-mere-haeder-til-tom-k-faar-vej-opkaldt-efter-sig-i-hjembyen Så hvis der er nogen i Hobro der ved dette, så tilføj vejen i OSM Vh Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk -- Sendt fra min Android telefon med K-9 Mail. Undskyld hvis jeg er lidt kortfattet.___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Blue Plaques i Smethwick
I've been provided with a list of blue plaques erected by Smethwick Local History Society (an additional plaque on the Oldbury Road, to mark the Ruskin Pottery works was stolen a few years ago). * The Toll House (High Street) * The Smethwick Engine (Bridge Street) * Central Library (High Street) * The Theatre Royal (Rolfe Street) * Soho Foundry (Foundry Lane) * Old Chapel Inn (Uplands) * Warley Woods (Abbey Road) * Chance’s Glassworks (Spon Lane * The Three Shires Oak (Three Shires Oak/Thimblemill Roads) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Pb de routage osmand et osrm
Le 12 janv. 2015 à 11:37, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Vue l'image aérienne, je pense que https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26539538 devrait être en sens unique... Ça n'explique toutefois pas vraiment pourquoi OSRM prends un chemin aussi alambiqué. Est-ce que le fait que la bretelle ne soit pas classée comme bretelle ne joue pas ? Je ne vois pas pourquoi elle ne l’est pas. Christian R. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS import
Thanks Guys :) Sorry for the delay it has been a long time since the last stats... and if i recall correctly, there where a lot of manual steps ... (especially for tiles) i used to use postgis with qgis ... if i could have a server with ssh and a postgis i might be able to process the stats ... @Jo: i''ll try to collect the scripts that i used... and to make some pseudo doc ... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: What do you need ? I have some room left over on some machines. It will be linux (of course). I'm thinking to provide some stats on the housenumber integration of crab. I might as well do Urbis as well. Let me know what you would like and if it's possible I will provide it. Glenn On 08-01-15 17:58, eMerzh wrote: The tiles are from 15-Feb-2014 and the spreadsheet,the last column is the earliest and it's the same date, 15/02 (/2014) as said earlier, i have no enough cpu/mem/disk power to continue maintaining those stats... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com mailto:pierrecparment...@gmail.com wrote: How to update the outdated data? 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aitf6GpM7KbYdGpvcWtNbVRoMU41VnowZU1nMXdGZEEoutput=html 2. http://osm.bmaron.net/urbis_img/tiles/ Pierre P. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Everything is going to be 200 OK. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS import
I don't know if you've noticed it, but there are a lot of streets where the addr:street tags don't match the street name (most of them are because of the order of language differs, some are also plain spelling differences). See this view: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresseslon=4.35180lat=50.84700zoom=15 I know there's a rule of the first mapper decides the name, though I think that one feature should get one name only. When someone named a piece of road as French-Dutch, the one who maps the next piece of road with the same name shouldn't use Dutch-French IMO. And addr:street should have the same order. However, searching the oldest used variant of a name might be a tough job, and uniforming addr:street depends on a uniform name for a street. So I don't know if anyone is up for it. Most apps don't care for bilingual regions (there aren't many in the world), and searching an address in f.e. OsmAnd becomes a real PITA: OsmAnd allows partial string search, so if I search for the Dutch name, I would get the result, no matter if it's tagged French-Dutch or Dutch-French. But because of the many streets which are mapped in both ways, I get two results for every street. And only one of the results contains the address I'm looking for. So it's a lucky guess to see which one I should take. And OsmAnd isn't the only one. Nominatim just resorts to the closest street when the names don't match. So it adds some addresses (mostly corner addresses) to the completely wrong street. Though Nominatim is prepared to a certain degree of language differences, it's not prepared to different names for the same street. Since we don't just gather data to gather data, but we gather data to be useful, I guess people of Brussels should get around the table to discuss whether they want to continue this proliferation of names, or if they want to make naming stricter (one feature = one name), which makes it easier for data users, but also restricts mappers more. An option to name stuff as Rue de xxx straat might again be possible since most (if not all) streets have a name:fr and name:nl tag that can be used for localised rendering and searching. 2015-01-12 16:43 GMT+01:00 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com: Thanks Guys :) Sorry for the delay it has been a long time since the last stats... and if i recall correctly, there where a lot of manual steps ... (especially for tiles) i used to use postgis with qgis ... if i could have a server with ssh and a postgis i might be able to process the stats ... @Jo: i''ll try to collect the scripts that i used... and to make some pseudo doc ... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: What do you need ? I have some room left over on some machines. It will be linux (of course). I'm thinking to provide some stats on the housenumber integration of crab. I might as well do Urbis as well. Let me know what you would like and if it's possible I will provide it. Glenn On 08-01-15 17:58, eMerzh wrote: The tiles are from 15-Feb-2014 and the spreadsheet,the last column is the earliest and it's the same date, 15/02 (/2014) as said earlier, i have no enough cpu/mem/disk power to continue maintaining those stats... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com mailto:pierrecparment...@gmail.com wrote: How to update the outdated data? 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aitf6GpM7KbYdGpvcWtNbVRoMU41VnowZU1nMXdGZEEoutput=html 2. http://osm.bmaron.net/urbis_img/tiles/ Pierre P. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Everything is going to be 200 OK. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-de] Start-/Landebahn
Am 12. Januar 2015 um 11:36 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Einen way. Eine Piste ist gerichtet, Tags wie incline=* wäre für Flächen sinnlos. Die Breite lässt sich problemlos als width beschreiben. Das deutsche Wiki zu aeroway=runway ist eindeutig, das englische leider nicht. Früher hat man manchmal runde Grasplätze gebaut und ist jeweils gegen den Wind gestartet und gelandet. Falls es solche Plätze ohne definierte Landerichtung noch gibt, wäre dort eine Fläche als runway angemessen. man kann auch durchaus in Flächen eine Richtung erkennen, echte ways gibt es sowieso nur in der db und der Mathematik, aber nicht im echten Leben. Um die Breite problemlos als width zu beschreiben, muss man sie erstmal kennen / messen, was bei Landebahnen oft nicht praktisch geht. Einen incline-tag halte ich hier auch für wenig sinnvoll, man kann aber z.B. die Höhen einzelner Punkte angeben, was dann auch deutlich mehr Informationsgehalt hat als der incline-tag. Ausser an Treppen nutze ich den eigentlich nie, Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[diversity-talk] Diversity for the tagging mailing list
As many should know, the tagging mailing list [1] is seen as the main place of discussion of tag definition in OSM. Due to the growth of the community, usually there is a high traffic of emails of highly specific topics. I believe these qualities of diversity of topics and large quantity of messages are not a good fit with a mailing list, resulting in quite an unpleasant experience for subscribers. To worse the situation, it's hard if not impossible to comment in an ongoing mail thread if you are not already subscribed to the mailing list (i.e. people might not be able to comment in the few specific topics they are actually interested in). The solution seems to be a move of the discussion of tag definition to a forum platform, which would be a more appropriate place due to the qualities described above. I think this is important for increasing diversity in the tagging mailing list, because few people can deal with a mailing list like that. How can we do this? Cheers, John [1]: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ diversity-talk mailing list diversity-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
Re: [Talk-it] Exploratori della domenica
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/01/2015 15:16, sabas88 ha scritto: Ciao, mi segnalano sulla pagina facebook una pubblicazione cartacea di questo sito[0] che non presenta indicazione di licenza http://imgur.com/rNrQrXr Sono stati contattati dall'utente e gli è stato risposto che hanno provveduto ad attribuire nel colofone, ma non si trova traccia. Saluti, Stefano [0] http://www.exploratoridelladomenica.it/ Io vedo nell'angolo in basso a destra, © Mapbox © OpenStreetMap Improve this map di questa pagina: http://www.exploratoridelladomenica.it/mappa-passeggiate/ Non è ben fatto il link ad OSM, ma punta a mapbox, quindi si tratta di dividere in tre link e non in due. - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUs+4wAAoJEMTPIIVov0Zth+oH/j9U4y86zId60XSTlvzrSQX4 CVkoDAm6ePkxfgzaO8tlL4aoydaRURTR3bOKJr+UO/A00pu3BqxTymTeT1t69KFE hn1PL96tlSaREqyHK6KSK8nr1jjaMWZmd/S/355B6hx/spBy7hAZttQQuyylxTou jpdbfqZzXCqqwc05XCNF3tmmrEAsJmLRVH6+qE8yTJx6eChYyYNvrYJ44BGTExH2 7Lsz4XJGyB63Yfuww/Ud7WVw5+7OD+YG232xtWHFrOKa9DgOFt7dU83/lDigr5f7 b6Z6GSQ6cEwnLUK65Ks0zQbPlTJwVSBo0YrCuCxTEB3a/SOPg6cMwPmR/97i3Mc= =29gx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I think the original question is are there bicycle routes that include Interstate Highways. From what we've learned, Interstate Highways can be tagged to allow bicycles where permitted by law. But just because bicycles are permitted, does that mean they are also part of a bicycle route? I'm not a bicyclist, so I'll defer to those that are. Bicycle routes should be documented by appropriate groups. I'm not sure who they are. We could also entertain tagging with the name of the organization documents the routes. ODOT's kind of an oddball edge case, considering all highways a valid route for all modes, and posting bypasses for segments inaccessible by certain modes. So, my Oregon and southern Washington RCN relations tend to reflect this localized assumption for better or worse, mostly out of a lack of a way to properly model it in a way that would seem consistent otherwise. Routes like 5, 26, 30, and 84 (noninclusively) are radically different in certain segments for bicycles than they are for motorists. So, they're not *explicitly* bicycle routes for the entire length of those relations, however, where they overlap the corresponding route=road of the same ref, it is an *implicit* route by virtue of being a state highway open to the public, where the only designated modes are likely to be hazmat, oversize and possibly triple-trailer rigs (and suitability for any of the modes permitted, motorized or not, is in no means guaranteed for nondesignated modes, and dangerous if not impossible for banned modes). These relations could probably be truncated to just the diverging aspects and split by contiguous segment if route=road is considered implicitly a route for all modes allowed by the member ways. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Railway data accuracy , age and origin
What is wrong with it? most what I see looks still up to date. Could you be more specific ? Glenn On 12-01-15 19:51, Stijn Rombauts wrote: Wouldn't it be a good idea then to give this page a decent update so everybody knows how railways should be tagged: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Railways Otherwise it is very well possible that someone else will 'destroy' a lot of your work. Regards, StijnRR ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
I think last time I doublechecked it, something like 30 or 35 states allow nonmotorized access to freeways, making those that don't somewhat of a minority. However, given that 97%(?) of the population of the US lives in the ~215 lower-48 metropolitan areas (that is, pretty much any city large enough to have a suburb of separate incorporation, of which the smallest and newest could very well be Eufaula, OK (with it's suburb of Carlton Landing, which someone recently shifted it's centroid node across the lane and dropped it to a hamlet even though it's an incorporated town as of last year), and 90% of that being in the top 100 largest of those metros, most people live nearest to a relative minority of freeway miles that don't allow all modes. That said, given that I've pretty much only ever lived in the emptiest states in the country plus California, unless you're on one of the urban freeways that does allow bicycles, and you plan on biking the freeway, you better be prepared to go 20-50+ miles without stopping. I remember seeing one cyclist back in 2011 on I 80 between exit 4 and 41, a 37, nearly 38 mile gap between exits (third longest stretch between exits in the US), and in the direction I was going, that next exit wasn't going to be someplace you wanted to stop anyway. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: This is an interesting conversation. Since I'm on the east coast, I've never seen a bicycle on a freeway. Since I'm a bit of a road geek, I ask this very question of my fellow road geeks on our discussion forum. It seems many states have explicit laws allowing bicycles on the highway. Follow it here: http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14452.0 Elliott On Mon Jan 12 2015 at 1:51:25 PM Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. All the more reason to explicitly tag it, since it's explicitly posted. Of course, the bigger trick is finding the endpoints of that, since even in states that do allow it (save for California), it's rare to get a bicycles on roadway sign regularly (Oregon, Washington and Oklahoma usually only post it once starting usually just before or at where bicycles first enter, the corresponding sign the opposite direction would be bikes must exit/turn right/whatever before and no bicycles after. And they tend to be hard to spot because for whatever reason, USDOT thinks bicyclists can read fonts as tall as my thumb is thick while moving (which means information dense signage such as found in Portland for it's LCNs is next to useless without stopping in traffic), so all bicycle signage tends to be in the finest print possible, even on the freeway... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS import
Yeah, i know we have already discuss about this here : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2014-January/005554.html i don't see a lot of options here ... Change the name=* to smth more tool friendly Remove the name=* (let only name:code=*) Or force one order of name (FR-NL or NL-FR)... but i think this might be hard to swallow for some... I know we always tell : don't map for a tool but it's really a mess in ALL tools using osm... the problem with scheme like Boulevard Lemonnier laan is when the name is different 'Rue des Poissonniers - Visverkopersstraat' or when tools like OsmAND have to pronounce the name -- Brice ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny vej Tom Kristensen Vej
Ifølge http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98restad Er det forfatteren Tom Kristensens :-) 2015-01-12 12:57 GMT+01:00 Jørgen Elgaard Larsen j...@elgaard.net: Der er iøvrigt en Tom Kristensens Vej på Amager, men det er nok en anden Tom Kristensen :-) - Jørgen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Railway data accuracy , age and origin
It's useless to draw two ways for a single double-track railroad line: almost everywhere all tracks are mapped seperatelyto not use a detailed schema for complex station grids: all detail is mapped in most stationsWhen on a four track group of lines - and this is the case on L36/L36N between Leuven and Brussels - the two inner tracks are another line than the two outer ones, I propose to nevertheless draw them next to each other, nicely parallel as prescribed in the How to draw a motorway page.: can it become more outdated? And what about the voltage, frequency, gauge, usage, ref, name, ... tags? Which tags should be used in Belgium, which not, en which values should they have? And what about the relations and the tags they should have? Also this page could use some rewriting...http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Railways Regards, Stijn From: Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be To: Stijn Rombauts stijnromba...@yahoo.com; OpenStreetMap Belgium talk-be@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Railway data accuracy , age and origin What is wrong with it? most what I see looks still up to date. Could you be more specific ? Glenn On 12-01-15 19:51, Stijn Rombauts wrote: Wouldn't it be a good idea then to give this page a decent update so everybody knows how railways should be tagged: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Railways Otherwise it is very well possible that someone else will 'destroy' a lot of your work. Regards, StijnRR ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo
Il 11/01/2015 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: esempi di lingua locale per la quale non esiste neanche un'ortografia standardizzata? Di fatto vorrebbe dire che è una lingua esclusivamente parlata, che non ha una letteratura: non mi risulta che ce ne siano. Alt, cosa intendi per ortografia standardizzata? Perché io intendo uno standard univoco creato da un organismo ufficialmente delegato ed usato da tutti o quasi. E mi pare che solo il friulano abbia questo standard (in Sardegna ne hanno proposto uno ma non sembra essere molto amato). Le altre che io sappia non ce l'hanno, hanno semplicemente svariate grafie più o meno usate (da quelle ufficiose a quelle inventante da linguisti più o meno improvvisati). Il che è anche problematico per quel che riguarda la trasposizione della toponomastica locale sulla mappa... IMHO andrebbe fatto un lavoro assieme ai vari progetti wikimedia regionali, perché se la tal wikipedia usa una data grafia sarebbe il caso che su OSM non ne venisse usata un'altra... ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
This is an interesting conversation. Since I'm on the east coast, I've never seen a bicycle on a freeway. Since I'm a bit of a road geek, I ask this very question of my fellow road geeks on our discussion forum. It seems many states have explicit laws allowing bicycles on the highway. Follow it here: http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14452.0 Elliott On Mon Jan 12 2015 at 1:51:25 PM Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. All the more reason to explicitly tag it, since it's explicitly posted. Of course, the bigger trick is finding the endpoints of that, since even in states that do allow it (save for California), it's rare to get a bicycles on roadway sign regularly (Oregon, Washington and Oklahoma usually only post it once starting usually just before or at where bicycles first enter, the corresponding sign the opposite direction would be bikes must exit/turn right/whatever before and no bicycles after. And they tend to be hard to spot because for whatever reason, USDOT thinks bicyclists can read fonts as tall as my thumb is thick while moving (which means information dense signage such as found in Portland for it's LCNs is next to useless without stopping in traffic), so all bicycle signage tends to be in the finest print possible, even on the freeway... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Place classifications
Great start on this Minh, I tried to tackle this in the Baltimore Washington region last year. After reading the wiki, I decided on the following classifications: * hamlet: census population was less than 200 * village: census pop. between 200 and 1 * town: census pop. between 10001 and 5 * city: major hub urban centers above 5 There are some CDPs though that would be a city by population alone, but really don't have a true city feel, and cartographically would look bad as being a city on a map. The tricky one is Glen Burnie, sprawl area south of Baltimore with no urban core, yet the pop is over 65k. It is marked as a city now, but really should be town I think. I like your one city per metropolis idea. Elliott On Mon Jan 12 2015 at 12:12:59 PM Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-01-09 12:45 GMT+01:00 Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us: but more importantly, it accurately reflects what going to town means in the surrounding area. That seems to be the idea behind the wiki's nebulous definitions. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Exploratori della domenica
Il 12/01/2015 19:13, sabas88 ha scritto: Ciao, lo stesso mi segnala che gli hanno nuovamente risposto, é stato un errore di composizione delle pagine e l'attribuzione é finita a ridosso dell'incollatura.. Ciao, Stefano Modo elegante per prenderci per il (|) ? -- Matteo Quatrida GNU/Linux User #498939 OpenStreetMap Contributor since 2009 «Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!» ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On 1/12/15 2:00 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: This is an interesting conversation. Since I'm on the east coast, I've never seen a bicycle on a freeway. Since I'm a bit of a road geek, I ask this very question of my fellow road geeks on our discussion forum. It seems many states have explicit laws allowing bicycles on the highway. Follow it here: http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=14452.0 in fact, here in NYS there is a class of trunk-ish roads called Urban Expressways where bikes and pedestrians are forbidden; sometimes it's posted but sometimes it's not. they're unpleasant roads to bike on or walk on anyway, but for bicycle commuters, sometimes they're the only route. Washington Avenue Extension in Albany is a good example. it's not explicitly posted so most don't know they shouldn't bike or walk on it, but it's the only access to a bunch of office buildings. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-GB] Nottingham Derby Pub Meetings for 2015
Dear All, I have scheduled social meetings for Nottingham Derby for the whole of the year ahead (at least in part so I can add them to my diary). Derby meetings are the second month in each quarter. I've kept to existing venues to keep things simple: there is always scope to modify the programme if something interesting comes up. (I have it in the back of my mind that perhaps we should visit Mansfield some time in the summer). Additional events more focused on mapping (follow-up to last Saturday's mapping/social event at Hanbury with Mappa Mercia) will be announced separately, but I certainly plan for some footpath specific gatherings. The next Nottingham meeting will be at the Lincolnshire Poacher on Jan. 20th. Best wishes for the New OSM Year, Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: in fact, here in NYS there is a class of trunk-ish roads called Urban Expressways where bikes and pedestrians are forbidden; sometimes it's posted but sometimes it's not. Having commuted by freeway by bicycle in a number of places where the practice is allowed, nobody's saying it's pleasant (heck, often the alternative route is worse, like the cycleway that hovers on the top of the sound wall of Interstate 84 near the Portland/Gresham line, mostly because the freeways get swept and animals must be in a vehicle there, and there's not only shoulders, but plenty of room to get around pedestrians, which just isn't the case on the I 84 Cycleway. You're often riding with a chain link fence keeping you from wiping out onto the freeway ~10 feet below on one side and a ~15 foot high concrete wall looking like something out of Half Life 2's Combine architecture on the other for miles at a stretch). they're unpleasant roads to bike on or walk on anyway, but for bicycle commuters, sometimes they're the only route. Washington Avenue Extension in Albany is a good example. it's not explicitly posted so most don't know they shouldn't bike or walk on it, but it's the only access to a bunch of office buildings. Oklahoma is notorious with this, and we're getting a lot more people over time that don't even know the rules about it here. Though, it's kind of a dirty trick: Bicycles are allowed on any highway anywhere in the state that does not have a minimum speed limit unless otherwise posted (ie, I don't know of any place this is the case, but the law explicitly codifies an exception for designated bicycle routes with a minimum speed limit; routes that don't have a minimum speed limit may ban bicycles for legitimate safety reasons (and not because it's inconvenient to pass, because then you'd have to ban equestrian and agricultural traffic as well for the same reason)). However, they also expect you to be psychic: Minimum speeds are typically not posted until after you're already on the road and committed, and entry ramps (save for the Oklahoma Turnpike Authority operated highways (all ten, and soon to be eight, of them)) typically lack signage informing people of banned modes. So, the first sign that you aren't supposed to be there on a bicycle is probably passing Speed Limit 65 Minimum 40 signage...half a mile or more after you entered the road and committed to it, assuming you don't have map data aware of this restriction and/or you're navigating off personal knowledge. Sometimes this will happen on a rural surface expressway...a mile after you passed the last intersection, without so much as a minimum speed ahead warning. And that's only if you're enough of a road geek to actually know this in the first place. End result: You'll probably pass three or four cyclists a month on urban freeways in Oklahoma, even as a casual car commuter. TL;DR: I spent a paragraph going over an annoyingly inobvious modal ban that drives me batshit insane trying to find it here. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS import
I must admit I hadn't thought it through. It was easy to decide to standardise on FR - NL for the associatedStreet relations, but this percolates through to the street level. Of course, back then, JOSM's validator didn't have that test yet. Maybe we should try to fix it at the validator level. I've been succesful in amending the validator for 2 other issues already: now it takes into account noname=yes and it shouldn't complain anymore when 1 street participates in 2 aS relations, when those aS relations differ in postcode or city name. This occurs for streets which form the border between 2 municipalities. The problem is, one never knows what is likely to be fixed and when they declare me crazy instead... I tried to get the validator to heed: note=similarly_named_ways_ boundary For the node which connects streets like Bruggesteenweg/Brugsesteenweg Oostdorp/Westdorp But maybe they'll implement taking borders into account (where this sort of thing is most likely to occur and cause a false positive). That's a lot harder to accomplish, if you ask me. But they don't want to 'pollute' the data with tags which only serve for the validator (like noexit=yes, after its usage was deflected from what it originally stood for) Jo 2015-01-12 20:55 GMT+01:00 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com: Yeah, i know we have already discuss about this here : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-be/2014-January/005554.html i don't see a lot of options here ... Change the name=* to smth more tool friendly Remove the name=* (let only name:code=*) Or force one order of name (FR-NL or NL-FR)... but i think this might be hard to swallow for some... I know we always tell : don't map for a tool but it's really a mess in ALL tools using osm... the problem with scheme like Boulevard Lemonnier laan is when the name is different 'Rue des Poissonniers - Visverkopersstraat' or when tools like OsmAND have to pronounce the name -- Brice ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore
Greetings US OSM'ers, I'm working with some other locals on another import, this time for Baltimore City. In thinking of good attributes to add to buildings, I thought it might be pertinent to denote the city's 16K+ vacant buildings [1] on the OSM buildings. Have other people been doing this? According to the wiki [2], it seems like the best tagging would be either abandoned:building=yes or a combo of building=yes and abandoned:building=yes. The full import is still in development so I'll share more to the imports list when it is ready for primetime. Until them I'm just interested if people are mechanically describing vacant buildings. Best, Elliott [1] https://data.baltimorecity.gov/Housing-Development/Vacant-Buildings [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
Il 11/01/2015 22:10, Marco_T ha scritto: Grazie per la risposta, mi hai dato alcuni spunti su cui indagare e documentarmi. Purtroppo la stazione di Vicenza e' ancora esplosa in una miriade di poligoni e quindi non riesco ad utilizzarla come esempio. Allora evidentemente non avevo più realizzato quel che mi prefissavo... non mi ricordo però perché non l'ho fatto, forse perché attendevo che quel modo di mappare diventasse un po' più diffuso (all'epoca di relation building ce n'erano pochette). A Vicenza sarebbe utile sistemare un po' la mappa dato che anche il SIT del comune e' basato su OSM: http://gis.comune.vicenza.gov.it/sitvi/index.php e ci farebbe una buona pubblicita'. Se non ricordo male anni fa il comune donò i dati al progetto (mi pare che buona parte delle strade derivino dai dati comunali... se non ricordo male per l'apertura di quei dati dobbiamo ringraziare Luca Menini, mentre per la trasposizione dei dati sulla mappa Flavio Rigolon). Per quanto riguarda Vicenza: credo non sarebbe una cattiva idea farci un bel mapping, per sistemare al meglio quantomeno il centro storico. Il 11/01/2015 23:01, Federico Cortese ha scritto: Il campanile (di solito tower) puo' seguire la stessa sorte delle parti interne o e' meglio che venga legato alla chiesa con una relazione multipoligono? Direi che il campanile è indipendente. Non farei nemmeno la relazione o al massimo ne farei una di tipo site. Personalmente penso che si potrebbe inserire anche nella relazione building se fa parte dell'edificio chiesa. Ovviamente mi riferivo ai casi di campanili indipendenti dall'edificio chiesa, che da queste parti sono assai frequenti. Se è un tutt'uno credo anch'io che potrebbe starci nella relation. Se invece è staccato no, a meno che non si faccia un'ulteriore relazione che comprenda l'intero sito in tutte le sue parti (es. chiesa + campanile + battistero). ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema rendering chiese
Il giorno 2 gennaio 2015 18:14, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: Vorrei portare nella lista italiana questo thread: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-January/020741.html Una prima prova su una zona a caso attorno a Padova di circa 90km x 100km mi ha dato 1000 oggetti sospetti con questo ricerca Overpass Turbo: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6Nj Sembra che avremo un problema Segnalo che in seguito a successive modifiche le cose sono tornate come prima: * Areas tagged with amenity=place_of_worship and no building tag are rendered again. http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Re-Release-openstreetmap-carto-v2-26-1-td5829256.html Ciao, Simone F. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-us] Mappy Hour
Tonight! Be there or be spherical Mercator. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c98gk0o8cjli2crjlcoa6f0vom8 Martijn ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] Start-/Landebahn
On 12.01.2015 17:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: [...] Um die Breite problemlos als width zu beschreiben, muss man sie erstmal kennen / messen, was bei Landebahnen oft nicht praktisch geht. Viele Flughäfen und -plätze geben Daten zu ihren Start- und Landebahnen im Internet an. Dazugehören standartmäßig Höhe über NN, Kanal auf dem der Tower erreichbar ist (und Öfnnungszeiten) und Breite, Länge und Ausrichtung der Landebahn. Einen incline-tag halte ich hier auch für wenig sinnvoll, man kann aber z.B. die Höhen einzelner Punkte angeben, was dann auch deutlich mehr Informationsgehalt hat als der incline-tag. Ausser an Treppen nutze ich den eigentlich nie, Ich nutze ihn auch ganz gerne an Straßen, wo ein Gefälle mit Warnschild angegeben wird. Gruß, Martin Viele Grüße, Andreas -- Andreas Neumann http://Map4Jena.de http://Stadtplan-Ilmenau.de signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-ca] weeklyOSM n°233 en français
Bonjour, L'édition hebdomadaire n°233 de weeklyOSM vient de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[OSM-talk-be] weeklyOSM n°233 en français
Bonjour, L'édition hebdomadaire n°233 de weeklyOSM vient de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[Talk-bf] weeklyOSM n°233 en français
Bonjour, L'édition hebdomadaire n°233 de weeklyOSM vient de paraître en français. Retrouvez sur http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/ votre petit condensé de l'actualité du monde d'OSM. Bonne lecture ! ___ Talk-bf mailing list Talk-bf@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bf
Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore
On 1/12/15 4:27 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: I'm working with some other locals on another import, this time for Baltimore City. In thinking of good attributes to add to buildings, I thought it might be pertinent to denote the city's 16K+ vacant buildings [1] on the OSM buildings. Have other people been doing this? According to the wiki [2], it seems like the best tagging would be either abandoned:building=yes or a combo of building=yes and abandoned:building=yes. what is the definition you are using for abandoned? here in Albany there is a major problem with empty buildings with absentee landlords who are not maintaining the buildings. how would Baltimore classify these? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-it] Accenti nei nomi di luogo
On 2015-01-12 at 21:12:03 +0100, Paolo Monegato wrote: Il 11/01/2015 10:14, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: esempi di lingua locale per la quale non esiste neanche un'ortografia standardizzata? Di fatto vorrebbe dire che è una lingua esclusivamente parlata, che non ha una letteratura: non mi risulta che ce ne siano. Alt, cosa intendi per ortografia standardizzata? Perché io intendo uno standard univoco creato da un organismo ufficialmente delegato ed usato da tutti o quasi. Quasi: non mi aspetto che ci sia necessariamente un organismo ufficiale, ma che sia usato da una percentuale significativa delle case editrici che pubblicano opere in quella lingua. Se si pretende un organismo ufficiale a quel punto neanche l'inglese si qualifica (non esiste l'equivalente della nostra accademia della crusca), ma gli standard ortografici dell'inglese esistono (più di uno, come ben si sa) e derivano da pubblicazioni di case editrici sufficientemente prestigiose. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Edifici e complessi edilizi suddivisi in parti
2015-01-12 21:23 GMT+01:00 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com: Il 11/01/2015 23:01, Federico Cortese ha scritto: Il campanile (di solito tower) puo' seguire la stessa sorte delle parti interne o e' meglio che venga legato alla chiesa con una relazione multipoligono? Direi che il campanile è indipendente. Non farei nemmeno la relazione o al massimo ne farei una di tipo site. Personalmente penso che si potrebbe inserire anche nella relazione building se fa parte dell'edificio chiesa. Ovviamente mi riferivo ai casi di campanili indipendenti dall'edificio chiesa, che da queste parti sono assai frequenti. Se è un tutt'uno credo anch'io che potrebbe starci nella relation. Se invece è staccato no, a meno che non si faccia un'ulteriore relazione che comprenda l'intero sito in tutte le sue parti (es. chiesa + campanile + battistero). Certo, condivido la tua analisi. Ciao Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore
In the dataset, those ones are owned by the city. When the property becomes vacant and the landlord can't pay the taxes, the landlords default and the city scoops the property up for non-payment of taxes. The 16K in this dataset are just the ones the city owns. There are apparently many more that are held by banks or someone hoping to make a buck if gentrification expands there. Here is a typical street with vacants in Baltimore [1]. If I were to classify abandoned buildings myself, I'd go by the wiki definition which would include buildings that have fallen into serious disrepair and which could only be put back into operation with expensive effort [2]. However, if we even include the data, it would only be for buildings the city has identified as vacant. You've raised a good point that it'd be hard to mechanically determine whether a building is abandoned or disused. I'll have to check if the dataset is only for truly abandoned buildings like the ones above. Kindly, Elliott [1] https://www.flickr.com/photos/sandrabitar/3771516836/ [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned On Mon Jan 12 2015 at 4:39:52 PM Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 1/12/15 4:27 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: I'm working with some other locals on another import, this time for Baltimore City. In thinking of good attributes to add to buildings, I thought it might be pertinent to denote the city's 16K+ vacant buildings [1] on the OSM buildings. Have other people been doing this? According to the wiki [2], it seems like the best tagging would be either abandoned:building=yes or a combo of building=yes and abandoned:building=yes. what is the definition you are using for abandoned? here in Albany there is a major problem with empty buildings with absentee landlords who are not maintaining the buildings. how would Baltimore classify these? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk
Am 12.01.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 11. Januar 2015 um 03:20 schrieb Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: Eine Kraftfahrstraße würde ich sehr wohl als trunk taggen... Das haben wir vor Jahren schon ausführlich diskutiert, und die Festlegung für Kraftfahrstraßen war das Tagging motorroad=yes, während der trunk tag für autobahnähnlich ausgebaute Nicht-autobahnen verwendet wird. Folgendes Bild als Beispiel: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:B14unterVerkehr.jpg Das ist doch wohl ein trunk, oder? Und so ein Straße habe ich auch schon in eine Stadt reinlaufen sehen (allerdings mit entsprechend niedrigem Tempolimit) und dann mit einer Ampel. Die Frage war, ob sich Trunk und Ampel ausschließt. Und ich habe gesagt: nein. Selbst bei einer Kraftfahrstraße. Grüße, Michael. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: If I were to classify abandoned buildings myself, I'd go by the wiki definition which would include buildings that have fallen into serious disrepair and which could only be put back into operation with expensive effort [2]. However, if we even include the data, it would only be for buildings the city has identified as vacant. You've raised a good point that it'd be hard to mechanically determine whether a building is abandoned or disused. I'll have to check if the dataset is only for truly abandoned buildings like the ones above. Interesting thread. There are 960+ abandoned building tags according to taginfo. But only 60 with either vacant or empty. My little town has a number of vacant buildings. It might be interesting to see them on a map. There maybe a small handful of abandoned by the definition of serious disrepair. I suspect a search of tax records to show who owns the property might be a clue. I have be in contact with the city about importing their building data. I will remember to discuss their definition of vacant vs. abandoned. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] Start-/Landebahn
Am 12.01.2015 um 12:50 schrieb Volker Schmidt: Ich dachte dass moderne Flughaefen normalerweise symmetrische Landebahnen haben, die Benutzungsrichtung haengt von der aktuellen Windrichtung ab. Nicht unbedingt, es gibt durchaus auch Gründe die Benutzungsrichtung individuell unabhängig von der Windrichtung zu definieren. Garry ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-ca] Ottawa Meetup This Month
If you're in the Ottawa area on January 23 @ 7pm , come on out and join us for our monthly OSM meetup! All welcome:) Details here [1]. Cheers, Richard [1] http://www.meetup.com/openstreetmap-ottawa/events/219792476/ -- Please note: I only check email a few times during business hours. Richard Burcher Twitter: @richardburcher Blog: www.richardburcher.com LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/richardburcher ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-us] Abandoned Buildings in Baltimore
I discovered that shop=vacant has over 6,000 tags. That actually makes sense. The building is vacant with a for lease sign. Many are former shops for example Blockbuster. Clifford On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com wrote: If I were to classify abandoned buildings myself, I'd go by the wiki definition which would include buildings that have fallen into serious disrepair and which could only be put back into operation with expensive effort [2]. However, if we even include the data, it would only be for buildings the city has identified as vacant. You've raised a good point that it'd be hard to mechanically determine whether a building is abandoned or disused. I'll have to check if the dataset is only for truly abandoned buildings like the ones above. Interesting thread. There are 960+ abandoned building tags according to taginfo. But only 60 with either vacant or empty. My little town has a number of vacant buildings. It might be interesting to see them on a map. There maybe a small handful of abandoned by the definition of serious disrepair. I suspect a search of tax records to show who owns the property might be a clue. I have be in contact with the city about importing their building data. I will remember to discuss their definition of vacant vs. abandoned. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-de] F: Kreuzungsfreiheit bei trunk
Am 12.01.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Folgendes Bild als Beispiel: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:B14unterVerkehr.jpg Das ist doch wohl ein trunk, oder? Im abgebildeten Zustand, ja. Und so ein Straße habe ich auch schon in eine Stadt reinlaufen sehen (allerdings mit entsprechend niedrigem Tempolimit) und dann mit einer Ampel. Die Frage war, ob sich Trunk und Ampel ausschließt. Und ich habe gesagt: nein. Selbst bei einer Kraftfahrstraße. Wenn es bei einer Ampel bleibt kann man es eventuell als trunk belassen, wenn sich dann aber die Ampeln häufen ist das keine trunk mehr... Garry ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-us] Mappy Hour
That was a horrible but especially clever pun. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Tonight! Be there or be spherical Mercator. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c98gk0o8cjli2crjlcoa6f0vom8 Martijn ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: I think the reason most long time mappers don't communicate the mistake the was made to new mapper s is the fact that where afraid of getting into a long drawn out conversation with them or it turning into a disagreement and end ing up nowhere. Just two frustrated mappers. I would like to point out a case in point. There's a mapper whose page a ran across that said All emails to me will immediately be deleted without being read.Now how do we communicate when we have mappers who feel that way in the community It's hard. Given a rather high profile and protracted example of this in which I was unfortunately a party to, the question begs to be asked: *do we even want *people who are unwilling to communicate with the rest of the project they're contributing to? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Data filter
The last touched is quite an easy query on overpass, see the examples here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API#Advanced_usage_examples If you want to return the nodes only: http://overpass-turbo.eu/ query type=node user name=Steve Chilton/ bbox-query {{bbox}}/ /query print mode=meta/ That would return tons of data if you're a heavy mapper. You might meet some overpass limits if you go too large. Glenn On 12-01-15 10:30, Steve Chilton wrote: Can anyone help me with filtering OSM data please? For a project I am working on I need data on my contributions to the project. How can I select ‘my contributions in UK’ and output as XML (or JSON?). Need a file that can be imported in to standard GIS packages. Any help gratefully received. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Exploratori della domenica
Ciao, lo stesso mi segnala che gli hanno nuovamente risposto, é stato un errore di composizione delle pagine e l'attribuzione é finita a ridosso dell'incollatura.. Ciao, Stefano On 12 Jan 2015 16:55, girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/01/2015 15:16, sabas88 ha scritto: Ciao, mi segnalano sulla pagina facebook una pubblicazione cartacea di questo sito[0] che non presenta indicazione di licenza http://imgur.com/rNrQrXr Sono stati contattati dall'utente e gli è stato risposto che hanno provveduto ad attribuire nel colofone, ma non si trova traccia. Saluti, Stefano [0] http://www.exploratoridelladomenica.it/ Io vedo nell'angolo in basso a destra, © Mapbox © OpenStreetMap Improve this map di questa pagina: http://www.exploratoridelladomenica.it/mappa-passeggiate/ Non è ben fatto il link ad OSM, ma punta a mapbox, quindi si tratta di dividere in tre link e non in due. - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUs+4wAAoJEMTPIIVov0Zth+oH/j9U4y86zId60XSTlvzrSQX4 CVkoDAm6ePkxfgzaO8tlL4aoydaRURTR3bOKJr+UO/A00pu3BqxTymTeT1t69KFE hn1PL96tlSaREqyHK6KSK8nr1jjaMWZmd/S/355B6hx/spBy7hAZttQQuyylxTou jpdbfqZzXCqqwc05XCNF3tmmrEAsJmLRVH6+qE8yTJx6eChYyYNvrYJ44BGTExH2 7Lsz4XJGyB63Yfuww/Ud7WVw5+7OD+YG232xtWHFrOKa9DgOFt7dU83/lDigr5f7 b6Z6GSQ6cEwnLUK65Ks0zQbPlTJwVSBo0YrCuCxTEB3a/SOPg6cMwPmR/97i3Mc= =29gx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Exploratori della domenica
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 12/01/2015 19:13, sabas88 ha scritto: Ciao, lo stesso mi segnala che gli hanno nuovamente risposto, é stato un errore di composizione delle pagine e l'attribuzione é finita a ridosso dell'incollatura.. Ciao, Stefano On 12 Jan 2015 16:55, girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno fatto cose professionali insomma :D - -- Simone Girardelli _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_ |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUtA8qAAoJEMTPIIVov0ZtrrgIAM/utGoKxbGj54iHLjDTny/6 ZQ1n1YkckxkPHhFKMuIwy800XfQ+do9NTInA5djiF6hAPIHJwBEnVbPeWMi6mgO7 IZhlKOkUsD2QsggRHBcgLVHCzSAPvNTvTd6uocvVxlA2rfykDec9DVE6kUzB+g1E zDhnLmwXlJDbMGGoX+ySbjvbZqK9LmfszHfk4NAhyEs0hXkHU6Ej3zpg7h5tIspI 03d4Ax6jjBUqlpWuWYaByxZzR/Qp+drOpbCaRppCGOyN/FZnkhrSHhrh9ro97b2e XAjmhnHYeSQ3YuxopWqztfOjqgs2UTgwDsc5jC/5Wtr8AXkoZwFIX4M75orYm2Q= =6tEq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] UrbIS import
When I initially prepared the UrbIS data for OSM, I arbitrarily chose FR - NL for all the addr:street names. Not totally arbitrary, as that is how you'll find most of them on the name tags in the street: Boulevard Lemonnier - Lemonnierlaan: Boulevard Lemonnier laan Which always results in 'spelling' errors in Dutch, but that's not important for this discussion Jo 2015-01-12 17:45 GMT+01:00 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com: I don't know if you've noticed it, but there are a lot of streets where the addr:street tags don't match the street name (most of them are because of the order of language differs, some are also plain spelling differences). See this view: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=addresseslon=4.35180lat=50.84700zoom=15 I know there's a rule of the first mapper decides the name, though I think that one feature should get one name only. When someone named a piece of road as French-Dutch, the one who maps the next piece of road with the same name shouldn't use Dutch-French IMO. And addr:street should have the same order. However, searching the oldest used variant of a name might be a tough job, and uniforming addr:street depends on a uniform name for a street. So I don't know if anyone is up for it. Most apps don't care for bilingual regions (there aren't many in the world), and searching an address in f.e. OsmAnd becomes a real PITA: OsmAnd allows partial string search, so if I search for the Dutch name, I would get the result, no matter if it's tagged French-Dutch or Dutch-French. But because of the many streets which are mapped in both ways, I get two results for every street. And only one of the results contains the address I'm looking for. So it's a lucky guess to see which one I should take. And OsmAnd isn't the only one. Nominatim just resorts to the closest street when the names don't match. So it adds some addresses (mostly corner addresses) to the completely wrong street. Though Nominatim is prepared to a certain degree of language differences, it's not prepared to different names for the same street. Since we don't just gather data to gather data, but we gather data to be useful, I guess people of Brussels should get around the table to discuss whether they want to continue this proliferation of names, or if they want to make naming stricter (one feature = one name), which makes it easier for data users, but also restricts mappers more. An option to name stuff as Rue de xxx straat might again be possible since most (if not all) streets have a name:fr and name:nl tag that can be used for localised rendering and searching. 2015-01-12 16:43 GMT+01:00 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com: Thanks Guys :) Sorry for the delay it has been a long time since the last stats... and if i recall correctly, there where a lot of manual steps ... (especially for tiles) i used to use postgis with qgis ... if i could have a server with ssh and a postgis i might be able to process the stats ... @Jo: i''ll try to collect the scripts that i used... and to make some pseudo doc ... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: What do you need ? I have some room left over on some machines. It will be linux (of course). I'm thinking to provide some stats on the housenumber integration of crab. I might as well do Urbis as well. Let me know what you would like and if it's possible I will provide it. Glenn On 08-01-15 17:58, eMerzh wrote: The tiles are from 15-Feb-2014 and the spreadsheet,the last column is the earliest and it's the same date, 15/02 (/2014) as said earlier, i have no enough cpu/mem/disk power to continue maintaining those stats... On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Pierre Parmentier pierrecparment...@gmail.com mailto:pierrecparment...@gmail.com wrote: How to update the outdated data? 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aitf6GpM7KbYdGpvcWtNbVRoMU41VnowZU1nMXdGZEEoutput=html 2. http://osm.bmaron.net/urbis_img/tiles/ Pierre P. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be -- Everything is going to be 200 OK. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-us] Place classifications
2015-01-09 12:45 GMT+01:00 Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us: but more importantly, it accurately reflects what going to town means in the surrounding area. That seems to be the idea behind the wiki's nebulous definitions. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Bike route relation issues
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: By contrast, I am not aware of any Interstate highways in the southeast USA that allow bicycles. From my experience, every entrance ramp has signs forbidding non-motorized traffic and mopeds. All the more reason to explicitly tag it, since it's explicitly posted. Of course, the bigger trick is finding the endpoints of that, since even in states that do allow it (save for California), it's rare to get a bicycles on roadway sign regularly (Oregon, Washington and Oklahoma usually only post it once starting usually just before or at where bicycles first enter, the corresponding sign the opposite direction would be bikes must exit/turn right/whatever before and no bicycles after. And they tend to be hard to spot because for whatever reason, USDOT thinks bicyclists can read fonts as tall as my thumb is thick while moving (which means information dense signage such as found in Portland for it's LCNs is next to useless without stopping in traffic), so all bicycle signage tends to be in the finest print possible, even on the freeway... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[OSM-talk] Fw: Announcement of the second Robocar World Championship in Debrecen
Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce that we will hold the second programming competition on January 28th, 2015. 2015 Europe/Hungary/Debrecen 2: The purpose of this competition is to start building the community around the Robocar World Championship. Organizers: Norbert Bátfai, PhD., University of Debrecen, IT Dept. batfai.norb...@inf.unideb.hu Competition announcement: https://www.facebook.com/events/755155657892240/ Competition Rules: There is no entry fee. The competition do not require personal presence. (Moreover, competitors cannot be present in person.) There is no reward or prize. (Play the game for the game's sake :) Each team play each other team twice. The server machine: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (Trusty Tahr), gcc version 4.9.1, Boost 1.55 Robocar-emulator platform: v0.1.2, https://code.google.com/p/robocar-emulator/ routine cars: 1, gangster smart cars: 100, guided cops: 10, 10 minutes/200 ms mandatory cmd arguments: --team, --port, --shm (if shared memory has been used) Schedules: Deadline for submission of Team Qualification Paper: 20 January. Qualification limit: 100/7 with 1 police car Deadline for submission of the latest source code version: 24 January. https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=hu#!forum/rcemu Competition rounds: 28 January. Competition report: 30 January. Results: TQPs, Traffic logs, Competition report: http://justine.inf.unideb.hu/2015/Europe/Hungary/Debrecen/2 Best regards Norbert Bátfai ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Railway data accuracy , age and origin
Wouldn't it be a good idea then to give this page a decent update so everybody knows how railways should be tagged: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/RailwaysOtherwise it is very well possible that someone else will 'destroy' a lot of your work. Regards, StijnRR From: Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com To: talk-be@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Railway data accuracy , age and origin On Wednesday 07 January 2015 18:00:53 Sander Deryckere wrote: Most of the railway data comes from survey, aerial images and knowledge (no imports, apart from Urbis, Brussels). The lines are usually mapped to the pair of rails (even showing the switches in most cases), and many lines have extra details s.a. gauge, voltage or maxspeed. But those are not rendered. Mapnik rendering does differ between major lines and service lines. I'm in the process of reviewing (and for the most part redrawing) the entire rail network in Flanders (to begin with, if the aerial imagery of Wallonia is good enough, I may extend it a bit that way, I've done all of West-Flanders and most of East-Flanders so far. It has slowed a bit since I don't have a lot of free time at the moment, but I hope to continue soon. If you come across some loose ends, that's where I'm at. Sources are the AGIV imagery, but I have a bit more knowledge about it since I'm an actual train driver. I try to work as accurate as possible, but it's a huge task (and I still have to do the entire port of Antwerp, ugh)... In the process I'm also adding maxspeeds, proper line refs and station/yard/junction names and codes, so you get nice maps on http://www.openrailwaymap.org/?lang=en⪫=51.02844005602989lon=3.49365234375zoom=9style=standard On that aspect, I'm currently tagging everything except the industrial line as main line, and never branch line. Infrabel doesn't really make a distinction there, and I feel like creating one will just be too subjective. If someone has a better idea, let me know. Greetings Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be