Re: [Talk-in] Moving place=village tags in Odisha
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Aditya Nag aditya.nag.2...@gmail.comwrote: I do not know the exact location of those villages nor the accuracy of AND data. Neither can I easily verify the location of those villages. Hence I propose the following workaround : 1. Create a new node very close to the original village node, so that the new node is not connected to any way. 2. Copy all tags from the original node to the new node. 3. Delete all tags from the original node. That should work. I have also noticed that most of the AND villages are actually towns now. Look around for the closest big settlement and that should be it. Will that be fine? On 02-Sep-2013 8:56 AM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.com wrote: The AND places are off by several kilometres and sometimes wrong.. Make sure it's right though... ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Relation tags for archaeological sites
Just looked up tag info. building:style looks relevant. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building%3Astyle On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:40 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: I'm talking about the documented ones, built by hoysala kings... Wikipedia has a list with references... I won't use it unless it's convincing Sent from my HTC ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Relation tags for archaeological sites
Additionally, you could also use start_datehttp://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/start_date#values to record the year of construction which can help make an interesting time series visualization. Doc, can you create a page on the wiki for this, I'm sure there will be a lot of people outside OSM, who would be very interested in this if there was documentation on relevant resources and how someone can contribute. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: Just looked up tag info. building:style looks relevant. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building%3Astyle On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:40 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm talking about the documented ones, built by hoysala kings... Wikipedia has a list with references... I won't use it unless it's convincing Sent from my HTC ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Relation tags for archaeological sites
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: If there's a relation linking all of them.. a map displaying all such monuments can be made easily... That's it All that is required is that the node or polygon representing the temples have tags that allow it to be targeted uniquely. For eg. amenity=place_of_worship style=hoysala It is then trivial to either download or render only these objects using an appropriate query. A relation would not really add much value. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Police investigating Google's mapathon
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Re: [Talk-in] Master City: Let's play with OpenStreetMap
Hi Mario, this sounds like a neat idea for place discovery. It would be nice if I could learn a little more about the place as well like wikipedia articles. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Master City info.masterc...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, thanks to OpenStreetMap and his team I have just released a new application, currently only for Android but if it hasa bit of success I have already set the output on the iPhone and iPad, called Master City. The application is actually a game where, with a double-click, you have to find 5 cities on the map. The data can be filtered by continent or country and choose from 3 different levels of the game. Furthermore, the application does not require access to the internet or wi-fi because, at the moment, everything is contained in the application itself. If you want to take a look under the page on the store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danelli.mariofeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kYW5lbGxpLm1hcmlvIl0. I highly recommend you let me know if there are improvements (obviously) and such. In addition to the game itself I think can also be useful to know OpenStreetMap for people of all ages (from 10 up can also be used as an exercise in geography). Obviously in the OpenStreetMap spirit the game is completely free and without ads. Thanks again to all who in recent years have been mapped and those who have just begun. The assignment can be found in the credits section of the settings. Mario Danelli ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [OSM-talk] additional layers on osm.org
Resources invested in hosting various useful tile layers and tools would only help in getting more people to switch to openstreetmaps and support the project. Why can't we have a larger donation drive and support such services which are central to the project and helps its growth? -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
Calling off the Bangalore meetup this evening, I guess it was too short a notice. Does next week work, in Indiranagar? On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM, paramvi...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. I believe you found an online, publicly available resource from the Karnataka state govt? Having been looking for something like that for Maharashtra as well. Meanwhile adding detail to Mumbai. Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:26:53 To: OpenStreetMap in Indiatalk-in@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-in] What just happened? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
I have been making updates mostly on a larger scale: river system, highway system, railways system, place classification. Probably of interest: - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Geovisualization_of_places_and_river_systems_in_India.png - http://tiles.mapbox.com/planemad/map/India-OSM-test#6.00/22.177/80.068 Let me quickly propose a Bangalore meet up to get things rolling. Sunday, Tomorrow evening 5-7pm. Venue: Socitea, 13th Main, HAL 2nd Stage, Indiranagarhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=12.968323mlon=77.639603zoom=18layers=M Even if it is a small group, should be interesting. Let me know whos in. On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:47 PM, paramvi...@gmail.com wrote: I am in Mumbai. Looking for moree Mumbai and Maharashtra based mappers to complete the state highways. --Original Message-- From: Ishan Chattopadhyaya To: Mr Paramvir Singh To: OpenStreetMap in India Subject: RE: [Talk-in] What just happened? Sent: Jan 26, 2013 12:41 PM Lets do it! Sent from my Nokia Lumia / Windows Phone From: paramvi...@gmail.com Sent: 26-01-2013 12:35 To: OpenStreetMap in India Subject: Re: [Talk-in] What just happened? That's good news. Can the mappers come together so we can have meetups? Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Harshad RJ harshad...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:32:58 To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-in] What just happened? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
I have started an etherpad for the Bangalore meetup today: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/OSM-Bangalore. I'm also pretty sure there are lots of Bangalore editors who are not on the mailing list, I will message them by poking into the osm history. On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: Karnataka is distinctly better than the neighbouring states... :) Sent from my HTC ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
Is anybody aware of what happened? I suspect it was mostly the Germans. They work much better than machines :D On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I have been making updates mostly on a larger scale: river system, highway system, railways system, place classification. Probably of interest: - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Geovisualization_of_places_and_river_systems_in_India.png - http://tiles.mapbox.com/planemad/map/India-OSM-test#6.00/22.177/80.068 -- *Harshad RJ* http://lavadip.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
This page might provide some clues on who's been active: http://odbl.de/india.html On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Paramvir Singh paramvi...@gmail.comwrote: Well, I have been working extensively on Mumbai, Pune and Belgaum. Alittle bit at Wai, Karwar and Mahabaleshwar as well. On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: Is anybody aware of what happened? I suspect it was mostly the Germans. They work much better than machines :D On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I have been making updates mostly on a larger scale: river system, highway system, railways system, place classification. Probably of interest: - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Geovisualization_of_places_and_river_systems_in_India.png - http://tiles.mapbox.com/planemad/map/India-OSM-test#6.00/22.177/80.068 -- *Harshad RJ* http://lavadip.com ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Rivers
Not exactly Karnataka specific: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rivers_of_India - River basin codes and maps from Central Ground Water Board - http://www.cgwb.gov.in/watershed/list-ws.html On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: Does anyone know where one can find the details of rivers of Karnataka? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Rivers
Really? I have been tracing all major rivers regularly and thought the main watercourses were mostly done. On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:19 AM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: I see that most rivers aren't mapped... Those that have been have little detail.. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour?
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: How long are you all in Mumbai? I'm expecting to be there around December 20. Arun, how's the weather in Dharamsala? That's my (potential) next stop after Mumbai. Its in the range of 15/3 degrees. Its starting to snow up in the hills. Brr. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in/ http://hasgeek.com/ On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 at 3:32 PM, Chaitanya waichal wrote: Dear OSMers M not sure if this is the right place but i would request you all to have a look at pathajalp.com http://www.pathajalp.com , based entirely on OpenStreetMap.ITs a website that allows you to rate roads..I am from Kolhapur,Maharashtra and have been single handedly working on this site. In order to implement it i ve had to use various technologies including Osm2po,Pgrouting, etc. Chaitanya On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:04 PM, paramvi...@gmail.com wrote: Great! Russell, what do you use for adding POIs on OSM? I mean, phone and software? Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:27:17 To: talk-intalk-in@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour?
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Arun, we are in Dharamshala! So you are responsible for the excellent mapping around here? Let's meet up for coffee or dinner. Are you up in McLeodganj? I'm in Rakkar village near lower Dharamshala, I could ride up on Saturday or Sunday. m: 90366 26854 Sajjad, wish we could have swung through Bangalore this trip, but not enough time. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron -- *From:* Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com *To:* Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com; talk-in@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour? How come everyone is suddenly in Mumbai? If anyone is planning to come towards the himalayas, I can be found near Dharamshala till January. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.comwrote: Erica and I will be in the megacity Tuesday and Wednesday * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron -- *From:* Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com *To:* talk-in@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:26 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour? Sure. Let's do a meetup next week in the evening sometime. Other Mumbai OSMers around? Please call me 98200.45529. My office is in Matunga West/Mahim and we can most probably meet there. Best, Shekhar -- Shekhar Krishnan Topomancy LLC 48, Whipple Street, #1B Brooklyn, NY, U.S.A. http://shekhar.cc On Nov 22, 2012 2:56 AM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: Hey everybody, I'm going to be arriving in Mumbai Sunday morning, here for a week. Does anybody want to get together of an evening, do some armchair mapping, talk about OSM, whatever? We usually work until 7:30 or 8, so I'm available after that. I'm working at Rediff in Mahim, but my hotel is the Bawa International in Santa Cruz, but I can make my way around Mumbai as needed. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Metro routes of kolkata
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 9:17 AM, soumen ganguly soumen.xplo...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am soumen Ganguly from kolkata.I was thinking of mapping the metro route of kolkata which has saw some upgradation till it was last modified in 2010.I could use a bit of help,anyone interested let me Hi Sumen, I love mapping transport infrastructure and can help if you have any issues :) I do think the metro network was completely mapped though, Is there some part missing? know. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple Layers for OSM
I had started this page a few days back to write down the ideas I have had on OSM layers for quite a while: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Layers It would be a good idea to list out the different approaches to the layer problem on the wiki so that we can compare ideas. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM Data layers
The import guideline thread spam got me thinking about how such an issue could be solved cleanly. I have forever had a problem with the OSM data being one big blob instead of using all that semantic information to group and organize the objects. There are a host of issues like importing datasets without breaking existing data and also the case of historical mapping. I'm no computer scientist nor have I been following mails to know if this was already discussed before, but I put down some fantasies I had about a future osm data layer model on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Layers Once again, I have no technical knowledge to reply to any questions on how this will work, but I hope someone can take something out from it and fix OSM for the better. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] Monuments of India - geographical co-ordinates?
The workflow that Onkar suggested seems sensible to me, but it boils down to the availability of data and how we can go about it. I think the starting point is an exhaustive database of these structures which has a usable primary key. The current WLM list has descriptions, but not names which makes finding these structures a bit of a hunt. What can be done with the available data is to get coordinates to the town/village level and map those which are not on osm. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad Geography.Information.Design ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Monuments of India - geographical co-ordinates?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Onkar Shinde onkarshi...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Using OSM is easy once you have the coordinates, but I'm wondering how they synced the monument list with the coordinates in the first place. I can just assume the list already came with coordinates, but in our case we need to geocode the list which is a bit of a task. If I understood the problem correctly you can approach it in following way. 1. OSM has a key defined 'wikipedia' which will point to a wikipedia article for any node. [1] Only, all monuments do not have a wikipedia page. Actually it seems like only a minuscule portion of them do. Also, most of the descriptions are generic: Two swivel guns belonging to the Mughal Nawwara Burial Cave Ruins Its quite a task to actually locate them and map it with this information. This is a massive coordinated mapping project itself. If done, it would be an awesome database which even the government may not have. 2. Tag all the monuments that are already mapped with this tag (provided wikipedia page is already present). 3. Use XAPI to retrieve all the nodes which have this tag within the bbox of India. [2] 4. From this OSM dump you can easily get coordinates using some XML parsing. Example XAPI query (bbox is small, retrieves one node) http://open.mapquestapi.com/xapi/api/0.6/node[bbox=72.607,17.639,74.983,19.542][wikipedia=*] [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/XAPI#Nodes Regards, Onkar -- Passion - Some people climb mountains - others write Free software. Don't ask why - the reason is the same. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad Geography.Information.Design http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Monuments of India - geographical co-ordinates?
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2012 22:03, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I'm a Wikipedian from India. We're doing a competition this September called Wiki Loves Monuments (an effort through a competition to get pics of various Indian monuments on Wikipedia). We scraped the list of monuments defined so by the Archaeological Survey of India here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Wiki_Loves_Monuments Hi Pradeep, this is an amazing list that will be of useful reference. I'm sure a lot of the items on the list have been mapped out, especially in Hampi and Mahabalipuram. I'm not sure what is the best way of ezporting the coordinates to wikipedia though. With the available tools it looks like too much of a manual effort. How was this done for other countries participating in wiki loves monuments? Did they use openstreetmap in some way? Hi Arun, AFIK WLM team of Romania uses OSM. http://wikilovesmonuments.ro/2011/12/wikimedia-commons-wiki-loves-monuments-openstreetmap-si-mai-ce/ Using OSM is easy once you have the coordinates, but I'm wondering how they synced the monument list with the coordinates in the first place. I can just assume the list already came with coordinates, but in our case we need to geocode the list which is a bit of a task. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad Geography.Information.Design http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Monuments of India - geographical co-ordinates?
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: hi, I'm a Wikipedian from India. We're doing a competition this September called Wiki Loves Monuments (an effort through a competition to get pics of various Indian monuments on Wikipedia). We scraped the list of monuments defined so by the Archaeological Survey of India here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Wiki_Loves_Monuments Hi Pradeep, this is an amazing list that will be of useful reference. I'm sure a lot of the items on the list have been mapped out, especially in Hampi and Mahabalipuram. I'm not sure what is the best way of ezporting the coordinates to wikipedia though. With the available tools it looks like too much of a manual effort. How was this done for other countries participating in wiki loves monuments? Did they use openstreetmap in some way? Each of the state pages has a table that requires geographic co-ordinates. Help in getting them would be appreciated. The data would be available on Wikipedia and could be made available on OSM as well, I think. (OSM Loves Monuments?) warm regards, Pradeep -- How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [OSM-talk] Lost tags
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:39:56 +0530 Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: It is quite painful to see that countless hours of effort has been deleted for no fault of my own. Is this just the result of the osm data model where tags cannot exist without geometries, or were these tags considered as being dirty and were legally supposed to be erased? I think the former is correct. This is good news for a start. We essentially have a UI problem, and if solved, will help getting back the most useful bits of the lost data back into osm. If you go through the history planet file and create a list that goes: somewhere in the world there is a way that has the properties name=Bingbong Street, maxspeed=30 (provided that both these properties were added by agreers) then it would be ok to publish that list and even use it to add to OSM. I don't see how it can be much help though, especially if it contains info like somewhere in the world there is an object with wheelchair=yes and opening_times=so-and-so ;) The most easily identifiable data that I see are those that have name tags. What if you have a list view alongside a map, which is populated based on your current view and zoom level? For ways, this can have additional information like the length of the way and orientation to assist mappers who lost their tags to identify where the original way was. For POIs, you could have the name of the street beside which it was located and also distance and orientation from the nearest place=* node There are probably better ideas, but its an absolute shame that clean and extremely valuable data is lost because the data model does not support its existence. Bye Frederik -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Lost tags
What was the license status of tags added by an odbl-compliant user on geometries created by a user who declined? While its ok for the geometries to be deleted, it does not seem right that the tags are deleted as well. It is after all the work of someone who has agreed to relicense his work/contributed knowledge. It is quite painful to see that countless hours of effort has been deleted for no fault of my own. Is this just the result of the osm data model where tags cannot exist without geometries, or were these tags considered as being dirty and were legally supposed to be erased? -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-in] Data loss due to license change
I think the osm redaction bot has finished cleaning up India and removed all non-odbl data. From this: http://odbl.de/india.html , I think we lost roughly 2% of the data due to the license switch, a good part being in central and south Bangalore, due to user:pynam and user:chfrangers who did not accept the new license. Its unfortunate that we lost the work of so many, I had tried sending them emails and even hunting them on facebook, but without response. In any case, i guess this is all for the better and the new license opens up a lot more opportunities for using the osm data. There's a lot of cleanup to do especially in Bangalore due to the missing roads. does anyone know where we could get the details of what parts were removed so that it can be fixed? -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[OSM-talk] Wikimapia data now under cc-by-sa
Before you get all excited, I do not think its what it sounds like. See the official announcement here: http://wikimapia.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=9878 I'm not certain what this 'wikimapia data' is or where it can be downloaded from. But it seems to be that this could be the placemark content- titles, descriptions, images and comments, but not the geographical coordinates. I have seen numerous cases where the description and images have just been copied from wikipedia and this license change is probably an attempt at conforming with the cc-by-sa license. If this data covers the geographical coordinates which have been derived from google maps service, then it doesnt make any sense. Can someone clarify? -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] Classifying places - cities, towns and villages
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:08 PM, I Chengappa imchenga...@gmail.com wrote: Can you point me to the definition of a city in the MDDS designations because I cannot find it? This is what the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places proposal is about. It is the local body type place= value mapping that we need to discuss and decide. And that will solve any further confusion. Can we agree that if any such designation is changed from an existing one, that the justification should be included. Again I would ask that you consider using a tag. Census2011;town or similar, which would deal with all such issues without a problem. I still do not see how using a census tag will solve the primary problem of which place= tag to use. If I understand correctly this is the guidelines you want to use? City: Any UA with more than 100,000 population Town: 10,000 - 100,000 people Village: Below 10,000 Hamlet: ? Suburb: ? If you have proper definitions for how all the tags should be used for India please make it clear. There is no point debating over an incomplete tagging proposal. Also, I see that Mandya has a new tag/value of admin_level=5? This is for indicating that it is an district headquarter. Thanks, indigomc On 11 May 2012 06:22, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Indigomc, let me recap, because we are going in circles: What should not be done is to divert a generally understood global designation such as 'city' that already has the neutral population definition. The so called global definition of a city on the osm wiki has been arbitrarily defined and has no basis or credibility. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dcity Especially to change it to correspond to a mixture of regional government designations that may change. Do people in Mandya believe that Cambridge is more important than their 'town'? There will arise cases in future where a person from a village, may want his place to be marked as a town or a city because he feels its important. It is therefore important to have a clear definition which links official classification of the place to osm tags and is not ambiguous. As to the suggestion that the government has an 'official system', please document where this policy is stated and how it is being implemented. The census 2011 has an official and exhaustive list of populated places with the classification of the local governing body. It has also established a system of unique e-governance code for every place (urban+rural) which is now the standard for future e governance services. This is the best reference document available to date which records the nature and size of every place in the country. http://censusindia.gov.in/2011census/MDDS_Directory.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDDS A standard used by the census and not used by the state governments or in general usage is just that, of use for the census and nothing else. The census is a collection of recorded facts, if it says Pune is a municipal corporation, then it is a municipal corporation. It is a central document which plays a vital role in the planning of essential services for the next ten years. I would rather have places classified according to the census, than an arbitrary definition of a mapper sitting in Europe who thinks that 100,000 is a good number for a place to be called a city. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Classifying places - cities, towns and villages
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 1:47 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com doc.ane...@gmail.comwrote: I vote for 2 separate cities (if each is of population 100k+) else towns(if less than 100k) A city is not defined by its population, but by other factors like economic productivity, administration , civic services.. We need a better definition to classify them. If 100k is the definition, you will have around 400 cities in the country. http://censusindia.gov.in/Census_And_You/area_and_population.aspx And marking the local governing body as an administive border (user Indigomc suggested level=7) ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] visiting bangalore/bengaluru
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Rich ric...@nakts.net wrote: On 04/13/12 06:01, Sajjad Anwar wrote: Dear Rich, Great news. I'm right now in my home town and will be back on Sunday. Let's catch up during one of the weekdays in the evening? thanks, great. i'm pretty much available starting sunday afternoon till friday evening. if there's some other opensource related event happening, we could overrun that as well =) Kiran, Arun, Yuvi - what's your scene? i assume that's a question for other mappers in the area ? :) Indeed :) I'm in town now. Rich, which part of the city are you in? I should be free in the evenings this week. Cheers, Sajjad. -- Rich ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery parallax error in high altitude areas
It's not as bad as it seems. Imagery is adjusted using an elevation dataset. Since this data doesn't (and shouldn't) include buildings and bridges, these appear distorted. You'll also see problems where recent heavy construction has caused changes in topography. Yes, but every pixel is not corrected. An imagery tile of 1km x 1km would possibly be corrected for the average elevation in the area, but in mountainous terrain, the variation in elevation above and below the average would mean that many parts of the tile that we see are actually slightly offset from the actual position. Is there an accurate source for the coordinates of mountain peaks? We can check how bad the parallax errors are on the satellite imagery. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Detecting unwanted edits and vandalism
Its the edits that mess up the existing data and make it difficult to undo that are most undesirable: 1) If the user is new, these would usually be in the first few changesets: a) untagged ways not connected to anything b) ways that are shifted c) single node shifted way out of place d) untagged nodes e) deleted ways and nodes (delete, i think should be disabled for users10 changesets) f) deleted tags g) ALL CAPS in name tags h) capitalization in tags eg. Amenity=Bank i) incorrect tagging for names: eg. bank='Scotland Bank' j) ways not properly connected to other ways k) ways drawn on top of other ways 2) For experienced users: a) Shifted ways b) Way nodes aligned to a line without checking c) Ways with unfixed tags because of merging d) Accidentally deleted objects In general, i think an effective way to fight vandalism is to have some kind of review for the edits of new users, especially the first changeset. Also give very experienced editors with certain numbers of edits some extra power like the ability to block a user or place his edits on review. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] India : Shapefile villages of Assam
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Loïc - picaspl...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, *I'm looking for a shapefile for Assam (India).* I'm interested in a vector file at a* villages level *to cross data with the Census of India. I already found this kind of layer on Bhuvan which offers a WMS (webservice) and i used it with QGIS software. http://bhuvan.nrsc.gov.in But the WMS format gives only a PNG image with no data embeded. I need the names and Census Codes of the villages, just like on the Bhuvan Website but inside my QGIS software. They have a WFS service which is not available for users, i think it's restricted... *Do someone has an idea, How can i get this shapefile AS_VILL_CEN01 ?* You are looking for a point layer with all the villages with official census codes? I have not come across any such data set in public. Your best bet is to email Dr Harish Karnatak in NRSC: haris...@nrsc.gov. in (It's for a PhD Study, non-commercial purpose) Thanks ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Fwd: NSDI Geoportal
I stumbled upon the National Spatial Data Infrastructure site which 'aspires' to put a lot of geodata into public domain for the benefit of the public. I got pretty excited and made an account hoping to find something new, but it became some kind of extreme internet hurdle test to get anything to work. For your pleasure, if anyone has some free time and would like to know how bad websites are made: http://nsdiindia.gov.in/ Please let me know if you manage to see any data at all. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: NSDI Geoportal
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:27 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: For your pleasure, if anyone has some free time and would like to know how bad websites are made: http://nsdiindia.gov.in/ “NSDI” means NSDI Inc., whose principal place of business is at 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States Seems like a front for Google Inc. Our national security is at stake! NSDI has subsidiaries and affiliated legal entities around the world (“Subsidiaries and Affiliates”). Sometimes, these companies will be providing the Services to you on behalf of NSDI itself. You acknowledge and agree that Subsidiaries and Affiliates will be entitled to provide the Services to you. oh man i would be needing a RTI to get some information :-( -Satya fossevents.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[OSM-talk] Imagery parallax error in high altitude areas
It recently struck me while identifying mountain peaks in the himalayas that something may not be right. All of us have noticed that the top of skyscrapers is off from the base of the building owing to parallax error of the satellite capturing the image at an angle. The average seems to be around a 0.2m displacement for every 1m increase in height (based on calculations made in a couple of cities in India). For an imagery tile which has 1000m variation in elevation, various objects could be displaced by as much as 200m from its real position. This means that tracing mountain roads, streams and peak from imagery would inherit significant parallax error displacement and there is no easy way of accurately offsetting the imagery before tracing either. Has anyone done any analysis on how bad such errors can be? PS: I thought i'd look at the case of Mt Everest, which not surprisingly has been marked using the high res bing imagery. I compared it with the coords on wikipedia and there seems to be a difference of around 50m [1]. I was expecting more displacement, but then again I dont know how accurate the wikipedia coords are, If its based on google imagery, its got some parallax error again. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=27.988056mlon=86.925278zoom=12layers=B000FTF -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-in] Mumbai mapping party at Bandra on Feb 21
Happening this Tuesday, do share it and join in if in town. Details: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Events/Mumbai_Mapping_Party1 We also hope to fix the Mumbai AND data, feel free to join in remotely if you can. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities
I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now. Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It seems there are following inconsistencies: Official name, Name on the map Shimoga, Shivamoga Dharwad, Dharwada Hubli, Hubballi I think this is downright confusing for people who aren't aware of these alternate names. Shall we not try to stick to the official names (as per Govt. records) for these and plenty of other cities like these? Regards, Ishan ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities
Those are nic sites :) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote: Based on these official websites and the text therein, I felt that the official names are as they have it: http://www.dharwad.nic.in/ http://shimoga.nic.in/ http://www.hdmc.gov.in/ http://www.mysore.nic.in/ However, I'm sure there must be some official government list of city names available somewhere. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now. Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru. On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It seems there are following inconsistencies: Official name, Name on the map Shimoga, Shivamoga Dharwad, Dharwada Hubli, Hubballi I think this is downright confusing for people who aren't aware of these alternate names. Shall we not try to stick to the official names (as per Govt. records) for these and plenty of other cities like these? Regards, Ishan ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the background, Kiran. After reading your note and also looking around the web for other discussions like these, I am even more convinced than ever before that OSM should go with the central government approved names. These name changes look perfectly legitimate to me on the map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaming_of_cities_in_India. To ask me, I would think having an official name change requires both state and central govt. approval, and in the absence of both these approvals, the name change cannot be official. Hence, OSM must not use these names. I suggest OSM stick to the centrally approved names instead of regional variants. It will present a consistent view to everyone looking at the map and eliminate confusion or surprises. I feel the best list to cross check these can be the list of members of parliament (Lok Sabha) and the Lok Sabha constituencies: http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Members/statedetail.aspx?state_code=Karnataka(this is coming from a gov.in website, dunno what's the deal with the IP address). Are there any instances of such issues in any other country as well? Regards, Ishan On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now. Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru. Official depends on which official you mean. Bangalore is Bengaluru according to the Government of Karnataka, but still Bangalore according to the Government of India. The central government has refused to confirm *any* of the new names in Karnataka because Karnataka tried renaming Belgaum to Belagavi, but the district government has been lobbying to move into Maharashtra. Karnataka tried renaming several cities in a single order. The central government will not accept it unless Belgaum is removed from the list. Karnataka will not do this because it amounts to admitting a problem in Belgaum. This stand-off has existed for years. State-funded projects like the airport refer to Bengaluru. Centre-funded institutions like the railways still say Bangalore. The media has lost interest in this, so there are few references on the current status. I posted one to this list a couple years ago. One simple way to verify current status is by looking at what the major newspapers say in the list of cities they publish from. The Times of India, The Hindu, Deccan Herald and Mint all say Bangalore. I remember seeing a newspaper that said Bengaluru, but can't recall which. Thought it was Deccan Herald, but their website says Bangalore. So the question is, which side is the OSM community on? Kiran I dont know which side to take, the Indian Railways for instance continue to use old names for many of the stations - Trivandrum, Quilon, Cannanore even though the renaming has been approved by the centre (Thiruvanthapuram, Kollam, Kannur). we do have the name, name:en, alt_name, old_name tags. Maybe a uniform policy on what tags to use for what is what we need. If Mysuru has been approved by the state and local institutes like colleges and offices have started using it in their addresses, it must definitely be there on some tag, we cant drop it altogether just because it has not been approved by the centre. OSM is a people's map, and if the local people feel that the name is common enough for it to be used locally, it must be documented somewhere. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] [Event] Night of the living maps - virtual global mapping party 07.02.2012
And I could come to bombay as well, but around feb 15th. why not have an actual event to fix the city once it for all? All that AND stuff is just gathering rot and nobody is touching it. Sanjay, if you guys can generate a high res map of the mumbai data you collected with freemap.in and serve the tiles over some wms service, it will make it really easy to do the remapping by loading them as background images in josm. With smart division of labour, we can get a whole part of the city updated with around 5 guys. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: How about we fix the Mumbai data? :D If there's any interest from other bombay people in this, happy to host an event at our space in Khar (CAMP), where we'll get coffee and wifi and can map all night :) Let know if there's interest and I'll try and co-ordinate something and announce it on this list and maybe some others. Thanks for the idea, Arun ;-) Cheers, Sanjay ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Indic place names in [name] tags
I have been trying to render maps from the osm data and the multilingual place names in the [name] tags has been an issue. There are all sorts of formats: [latin], [latin local], [local latin], [latin (local)], [local (latin)], [local]. I feel for the sake of consistency, only the latin name be entered into the [name] tag, and the local language one in the [name:hi] or similar tag with the two letter language code. Otherwise the inconsistent name tags is just going to make processing the data cumbersome. I'm going to move the local names into the name: subtags, let me know if anyone has an issue with that. No data is going to be lost, only that the default osm tiles will only show the latin names. But then again its time we set up india tile servers for indian languages so that localization can be carried out in a more consistent manner. cheers, -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indic place names in [name] tags
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, most people have been using the following convention: [name] = Native language [name:en] = Latin character [name:hi] = Local name Nominatim is capable of searching a name whatever the namespace is. Also, the Japanese have been also using tags like [name:jp_romaji] for latin transcript. I believe that the map should be usable for the people who are living in the area not for the tourists. Such a name localization effort using the default mapnik tiles as reference is only going to result in ALL name tags having both english and indic names (dont forget that a good proportion of Indians are literate in english). People want to 'see' their hometowns in the local script, and adding it to the [name] tag is the only option because the osm tiles renders only that. If we had indic tiles that rendered from name:hi tags we would not have this problem because those interested in hindi would use the hindi tiles and the hindi tags. Now there is just duplication of data in name and name:hi I'm afraid I might have been the first one to start this trend 4 years back when i entered the tamil and english names for chennai just to see if mapnik was able to render it. In a month, i saw kannada, then hindi names turned up all over the north, and then bengali in the east. And because each label is so long, a lot of other place labels get hidden :/ -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[OSM-talk] osmosis pbf issues
I have been trying to process pbf files without luck in osmosis. When i run: osmosis --read-pbf india.osm.pbf --write-xml india.osm osmosis quits with: SEVERE: Execution aborted. org.openstreetmap.osmosis.core.OsmosisRuntimeException: Task type read-pbf doesn't exist. I installed osmosis 0.39 using 'apt-get intall osmosis' I used to get the same error when i used osmosis from http://bretth.dev.openstreetmap.org/osmosis-build/osmosis-latest.zip a month ago How do i get pbf to work? i dont see any help in the wiki either. cheers -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] No aerial images
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com wrote: hi Arun, Thanks for the confirmation. So, now the only way I can edit the region around Bharuch is using a GPS reciever. Or is there any way I can request for an aerial mapping or satellite imagery of the area? I guess gps traces are your only option, OR scanned and rectified public domain maps, if you can get some from the town planning/corporation people. I'll need to check bhuvan/isro imagery and see what their usage terms are. I've noticed they seem to be releasing more stuff in the open off late. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas -- From: arun.plane...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:58:55 +0530 To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-in] No aerial images On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com wrote: hi, I'm a new editor on OpenStreetMap from Bharuch, Gujarat. I do not see aerial maps of the area I am from. Since I do not currently have a GPS reciever, needed some help: Can somebody check if there are aerial images for Bharuch, Gujarat? Perhaps I am not being able to see them because of working on a Reliance NetConnect+ dongle. Just to make sure. Hi Pradeep, nope i dont see any imagery for bharuch either. The coverage seems to only start around 5 km east of the town. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas pradx on OpenStreetMap ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] ISRO using osm data
While playing around with bhuvan, i found out that their wms layers of national highways and hospital were actually made using osm data. I did a quick comparison to verify: http://bitterscotch.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/isro-sees-utility-of-openstreetmap-data/ Its good to see that ISRO/NRSA has an eye on openstreetmap now. This can be used to build a case for opening up for more data from government agencies. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] ISRO using osm data
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Aneesh T doc.ane...@gmail.com wrote: @ArunGanesh - You've got Mr. Pradeep Mohandas to thank for looking deeper into ISRO:) BTW, I prefer potlach over jOSM.. Are the bing backgrounds reliable in Bangalore (not offset right??) Indeed, Pradeep got me looking at bhuvan. I was probably the only user this month :) There are two levels of high res imagery for bangalore, which are slightly offset with each other by around 20m. And josm just allows you to make a LOT more edits than potlatch. On 28 November 2011 02:22, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: While playing around with bhuvan, i found out that their wms layers of national highways and hospital were actually made using osm data. I did a quick comparison to verify: http://bitterscotch.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/isro-sees-utility-of-openstreetmap-data/ Its good to see that ISRO/NRSA has an eye on openstreetmap now. This can be used to build a case for opening up for more data from government agencies. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [OSM-talk] Here's what they do in Korea
I am totally blown away by the level of detail provided by the map providers in Korea. Even the navigation devices they use in almost any vehicle is of a much higher level than anything I have seen outside. As the car approaches a flyover or a junction, the device actually renders a 3d view of the area from the pov of the vehicle, with detailed buildings, trees and lighting to match the time of the day. Each lane of the road is marked with turn restrictions and speed limits. All the gloating we do of the capabilities of osm fades in comparison to what's been achieved here. We are years away from reaching such a level where it will possible to crowdsource data to such a detailed level in a consistent manner. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:00 PM, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?t__nil_navi=bestmainnil_id=map http://map.naver.com/ Even if you don't read Korean you can still appreciate the scope and scale of their undertaking. The datasets are also unique- take a look at the same area from the different providers. Click on various icons to see aerial photos and Daum's street view. Also provided: route planning, traffic density, and the weather for the chunk of map you are looking at. Oh, and as well as the distance and journey time the route planner will tell you the taxi fare you would have to pay. Best wishes, Andrew -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-transit] commuter rail
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: I think that tag is not usable. There can be a train that goes from town to town, making it an ordinary train line. Then when it comes to a big city, it stops on every station, making it a commuter train line. How do you tag that? I know there aren't a lot of these trains, but I think the tag isn't consistent. How many circles around a route does it make a commuter line? Dedicated suburban commuter rail systems exist in 3 cities in India - Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata, with dedicated tracks just for these special type of EMU trains. Ordinary trains do not run on these tracks. But once outside the city limits, ordinary trains and the suburban trains start sharing the railway line. Like Janko said, tagging the railway tracks as commuter rail will be inconsistent. It might be a better idea to have a classification system for the railway lines depending on the type of usage. These could be applied to railway route relations: A: Mixed Use (Passenger+Commuter+Freight) A1: Primary route A2: Secondary route A3: Branch line B: Passenger services only (Passenger+Commuter) B1: Primary route B2: Secondary route B3: Branch line C: Commuter rail only (Commuter) C1: High frequency route C2: Low frequency route D: Urban rail (subway) D1: Primary route D2: Secondary/branch routes E: Tourism/Heritage service only F: Freight only F1: Primary route F2: Secondary route F3: Branch line I went through the wiki, and there seems like a ton of abandoned proposals, so its possible this might have been discussed before. Someone please point me to where all the action regarding this is happening, I really want to classify the Indian railway network better. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] commuter rail
I did not propose to tag the *way* as commuter rail, but the *relations* regarding these train connections. Commuter rail often uses the same rail tracks as long distance services. That is why railway=rail is correct for the ways; but IMHO route=commuter for the relations is interesting information. Ah ofcoure, relation tagging makes sense. It might be a better idea to have a classification system for the railway lines depending on the type of usage. These could be applied to railway route relations: A: Mixed Use (Passenger+Commuter+Freight) A1: Primary route A2: Secondary route A3: Branch line B: Passenger services only (Passenger+Commuter) B1: Primary route B2: Secondary route B3: Branch line C: Commuter rail only (Commuter) C1: High frequency route C2: Low frequency route D: Urban rail (subway) D1: Primary route D2: Secondary/branch routes E: Tourism/Heritage service only F: Freight only F1: Primary route F2: Secondary route F3: Branch line That makes it even more difficult to distinguish! What do you answer to Janko's points? Do you want to tag ways or relations with these tags? The ways continue to be railway=rail, the tags are on relations like you proposed. Only that an alphanumeric classification system makes more sense for a multilingual project. Words like commuter and subway have different meanings in different parts of the world. In India, a commuter train is called a 'local' or referred to as EMU's in the papers, the terms commuter and suburban are almost never used. The pitfall of not thinking ahead to include different usage classification is the addition of much more complicated tagging system later on. After route=commuter, someone a few years down will propose a usage=heavy/light or frequency=1/2/3 or branch_line=yes to sub classify the commuter route. The advantage of having verbose tags is thats its easy for humans to read., but in the process makes it difficult while tagging and is not scalable. I went through the wiki, and there seems like a ton of abandoned proposals, so its possible this might have been discussed before. Someone please point me to where all the action regarding this is happening, I really want to classify the Indian railway network better. What do you think about what Wikipedia says about India here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commuter_rail#Asia ? There's not much detail in wikipedia regarding the finer aspects of the Indian railway system. I know the network pretty well and my proposal of usage tags was based on my own knowledge. cheers, -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [OSM-talk] International Boundaries from Department of State
Regarding the administrative boundaries, why is there no mention of the GADM dataset[1] as a potential data source? Its the most accurate and detailed public domain set of worldwide boundaries that I have come across. [1]http://www.gadm.org/ -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] International Boundaries from Department of State
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: The terms of use say only for non-commercial use, which is not acceptable for use in OSM Ah missed that, the page on wikipedia said public domain. There's surprisingly scarce info about the GADM project, no mention of sources, how it was done, or the people behind it. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] Mumbai Brownfields
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@mit.edu wrote: Here is a study I participated in several years ago on Housing Typologies in Mumbai: http://www.urban-age.net/0_downloads/House_Types_in_Mumbai.pdf Thanks Shekhar, that was a very useful report in understanding how these settlements came to be. Redevelopment is a highly political process, as is the meaning of the term slum, which is often used to indicate a desire to displace poor people and demolish their settlements. I don't believe our cartography should reflect the view of government or builders who seeks to clear and rebuild entire areas to favour certain classes. Slums encompass a wide spectrum and continuum of housing practices. Most such settlements require upgradation, better services, and in-situ development. That's a different debate. My view of squatter colonies is as a type of urban settlement. As a physical structure, they exist on the ground, they cover large areas of the city and are distinctly different in both its physical form and character from a planned layout. Marking them will help in better understanding the structure of the city and the relationships these settlements have with geographical features like water bodies, wetlands, transportation networks, access to govt services. No settlement in Mumbai is unregulated or unplanned, informal housing comes up in areas which are marked on plans for other purposes and are usurped by local officials and landowners/slumlords. They are highly regulated as far as water, sanitation, electricity and other services are concerned. Maps have their own ethics. I think we should all be careful that our desire for transparency does not end up making some people more vulnerable, by putting them on the map in the wrong way. That said, I'm very eager to map houses, markets, workshops, schools and temples in the wadis, koliwadas, gaothans, chawls of Mumbai. Maps are a tool to understand the earth, and we should keep it that way. In any case, my interest in the slums of Mumbai came out of curiosity on how these settlements have grown, where and why. If no one else sees any use of such areas on the osm server, i can easily move it to a separate layer for my personal use. just for reference, we did go on about this before :) http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-in@openstreetmap.org/msg01113.html -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mumbai Brownfields
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@mit.edu wrote: All: I noticed activity in Mumbai recently by Arun Ganesh (PlaneMad) where a lot of landuse:brownfield areas are being traced around various villages, koliwadas, wadis, slums and mixed-use and industrial settlements. I know there was some earlier discussion of how to tag so-called slums but brownfield is certainly not appropriate, see the tag which is land scheduled for new development http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbrownfield It seems that this tag is being used indiscriminately across any cluster in Mumbai which appear dense, this covers a wide spectrum of settlements that all look the same from a satellite image. Hi Shekhar, I wanted to do an analysis of how much area such settlements cover and was tracing the boundaries of these areas. Since there isn't any agreed convention, i just continued what an earlier user had done in south mumbai. I was hoping someone like you with better knowledge would bring this up and propose a more meaningful tag. Replacing tags does not require much effort. Going by the wikipedia definition of brownfield landhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownfield_land, i did not think it was totally inappropriate either. My interest is in 'slums' which have unregulated and unplanned developments (and have been marked by the government for rehabilitation, clearing and redevelopment). Shekhar, can you list out the different classes (official and non official) of such dense settlements which look like slums, what they are locally called and their description? These areas are of high interest to urban planners, govt bodies, NGO's etc and having them mapped appropriately will definitely be a lot of help to different parties. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] The new CT/ODBL license
There has been a firestorm on the main lists regarding the ODBL migration, so I thought of bringing it up here, since we are now on the verge of the change. In short this is what's happening with the osm license: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/About_The_License_Change And here is the current license status of osm edits in India: http://odbl.de/india.html The project is currently in the penultimate phase of the license implementation planhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan#PHASE_4_-_.22Decline.22_accounts_deactivated._.28Phase_3_.2B_at_least_8_weeks_subject_to_critical_mass.29. Edits by contributers who have not accepted the new license will not see their contributions carried forward when the migration to odbl happens and will no longer be able to edit osm. To be honest, I've gone with the flow and accepted the new contributer terms without breaking my head too much. I have trust in the OSMF that there are enough smart guys and lawyers in there to know whats best for the future of the project. My view is that the migration was inevitable, given how the cc license is not suitable for a database, so this had to happen at some point. I have been sending messages to those who have not yet accepted the new CT's in India and found that many of some had their own opinions and others were not sure what was happening. Let this be a space to discuss any differences and decide whats the best way forward and maximize acceptance of the new license. PS: You can accept the new CT/license from your osm profile page if you havent already done so: http://openstreetmap.org/user/terms -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
I managed to download the LULC layer but when I try to download in JOSM, I get a message Sorry! No data available in this scale. This is for very low zoom levels i.e.1 inch = 1 km Any idea why? Shalabh The imagery is for even lower zoom levels since its on the 1:1million scale. I find it works only after the 1inch=20km range.Once it loads you can disable the automatic downloading by right clicking the imagery layer, so that you can zoom in without losing the tiles. Btw, now the usage policy clearly states that the data is in public domain http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/policy.asp I have added the info to the osm wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Data_sources#ISRO.2FNRSC_Landuse_Imagery -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I managed to download the LULC layer but when I try to download in JOSM, I get a message Sorry! No data available in this scale. This is for very low zoom levels i.e.1 inch = 1 km Any idea why? Shalabh The imagery is for even lower zoom levels since its on the 1:1million scale. I find it works only after the 1inch=20km range.Once it loads you can disable the automatic downloading by right clicking the imagery layer, so that you can zoom in without losing the tiles. Thanks Arun. That solves the problem. However, the question is what use is the imagery at such low resolution. I can do much better with Yahoo imagery. Am I missing something? For tracing into osm, not much. Its of more use for scientific purposes where you can see extent of urban area, deforestation, wasteland etc. Such details are not available on a pan-India scale from any other source. Btw, now the usage policy clearly states that the data is in public domain http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/policy.asp I have added the info to the osm wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Data_sources#ISRO.2FNRSC_Landuse_Imagery -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:04 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: There's some great news, I just received an email from Dr Harish (Scientist at NRSA) that the WMS service for India's landuse data is now live [1]. I Excellent!!! tried it out in JOSM and works great. How to have it in JOSM? * Login to http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/query.asp * Copy the getcapabilities link from the wms service section * In josmpreferenceswms servers add a new server and paste the link and click load layers * Choose the LULC layer and add it to the server list Its strange that they require registration to access the wms service link, if the link is shared publicly there wont be any need to register :/ -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:31 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: * Login to http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/query.asp OK The site displays: This site is best viewed in Internet Explorer 5.0 and above. Please do not use pop-up blocker to access this web site.. Sad ti read. * Copy the getcapabilities link from the wms service section It was http://applications.nrsc.gov.in:8080/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=/ms4w/apps/lulc/Mapfiles/lulc0708_LAN.mapversion=1.1.1service=WMSrequest=GetCapabilitieslayer=LULC%20of%20India; But it downloade (though you never mentioned to download from that URL) mapserv.exe. * In josmpreferenceswms servers add a new server and paste the link and click load layers * Choose the LULC layer and add it to the server list Did. Unable to get anything. In the wms plugin add server dialog, the getcapabilities url should be able to return 4 layers from the server. If it does, then you should be on the right track. You may not be able to download anything in josm now due to the api downtime. Maybe that is the issue? Then noticed mapserv.exe is cgi application, so it should get executed to show images of map. But that is not happening. I don't think, user name and password is being used anywhere in this process. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@crit.org.inwrote: This is a great find Arun, thanks. Let us know what happens with ISRO. If they don't offer WMS or Tiles we should pressure them to do so. Sent a mail to Dr Harish Karnatakhttp://applications.nrsc.gov.in/contact.html(in charge geoinformatics) yesterday, asking how we can use the data in an external application. No response yet. Why dont you try shooting a mail to the director as well? S.K. On 05/11/2011 02:35 PM, Arun Ganesh wrote: I just found out that the IRS based 1:1M land cover data for India is in the public domain from ISRO's National remote sensing centre. 1:1M Landuse mapviewer: http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/mapview.asp Data use policy: http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/policy.asp I am going to send them a mail to see if there is a WMS service available so that it can be used in josm for tracing. Either way, its a very encouraging find. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGaneshhttp://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Shekhar Krishnan CRIT (Collective Research Initiatives Trust) B43, Shravasti Goregaon-Malad Link Road Malad (West), Mumbai 400064, India http://crit.org.in http://heptanesia.net ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] NRSC Landuse data in public domain
I just found out that the IRS based 1:1M land cover data for India is in the public domain from ISRO's National remote sensing centre. 1:1M Landuse mapviewer: http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/mapview.asp Data use policy: http://applications.nrsc.gov.in/policy.asp I am going to send them a mail to see if there is a WMS service available so that it can be used in josm for tracing. Either way, its a very encouraging find. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Kerala LSG map
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is there way to mark LSG, assembly constituency and lokshaba constituency in OSM ? This is map created for LSG by Kerala govt http://itmission.kerala.gov.in/igsg.html Data:- http://gis.keltron.org/giskerala/igsg_kamap/IGSG_MAP/ Wow, who own this data? Btw, the map shapefiles are not available, the .map file seem like a database configuration file: http://gis.keltron.org/giskerala/igsg_kamap/IGSG_MAP/IGSG_files/district_boundary.map -- Naveen Francis ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Kerala LSG map
I'm not sure if its a very good idea to have constituency boundaries in osm. They change often with each delimitation and overlap over district/subdistrict borders which in my opinion are a lot more important. If we do get the shapefiles, we can atleast upload it to geocommonshttp://geocommons.com/ . -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Atlas style using maperitive
Preview of a style file i have been working on for rendering Indian osm data: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/5389304805/ It uses the motorroad=yes tag that i proposed to show upgraded highways instead of using the motorway tag ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Tags/Highway). I have also made use of the place=town/city polygon to draw urban area outlines of cities. Rendered using maperitive http://maperitive.net/. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Bing imagery
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 12:32 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 18:56 +0530, Arun Ganesh wrote: To use the imagery, correct the offset by aligning it to the downloaded gps traces. In josm, right click the imagery layer in the layers panel and select the offset function. I do not see an imagery layer got it now - it is in josm-latest. Fixed the offset, checked against my traces, book marked it and now all ready to trace! the new josm is really great with the integrated imagery support. makes it so much more faster to work on. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Bing imagery
The areas that are skewed are same as that of landsat imagery, a very weird phenomenon. I've noticed this in coimbatore and kanniyakumari districts so far. To use the imagery, correct the offset by aligning it to the downloaded gps traces. In josm, right click the imagery layer in the layers panel and select the offset function. You can even bookmark the offset distance for later use. We can document the offset calculations for each city in the wiki so that others can use it. Some of the Bing imagery is quite recent, less than a year old. Varies from place to place i guess. -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Bing imagery
On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 18:25 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: I checked it against tracks made by my metre accurate GPS instrument. Kenneth, how did you measure the gps accuracy? chennai seems accurate - but it is the same map as yahoo - but has one more zoom level. Mangalore is b0rked, but not as bad as Coimbatore. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Vembanad lake converted to coastlines
I just converted the salt water portion of Vembanad lake/Kochi area up till the Thanneermukkom barrage to coastlines. There was a lot of inconsistency in the rendering of the small islands with the previous water multipolygon tags. Now it should be easier to mark the wetlands/inundated farms in the area. As a side result the lake will disappear for a while on mapnik renderings till the coastline update kicks in. So no need to panic :) http://osm.org/go/ynwPus3-- -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Daily OSM India extract now available from geofabrik
After i sent a request to geofabrik for India osm extracts, they are now available and are updated every day. download: http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/asia/ The extract is in a highly compressed pbfhttp://blog.geofabrik.de/?m=201009format and only 14mb in size (uncompressed size is ~500mb) The other source for India extracts is cloudmade, updated only monthly though http://downloads.cloudmade.com/asia/india -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Custom styled OSM map
I've been playing around with a new tool called maperitivehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maperitivelately which renders osm data on the fly and allows you to specifiy custom map rules. I'm developing a map style which is a lot more cleaner than the default mapnik one, you can check out the preview of the style here http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/5104440951/ The rule file is here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Planemad/neutralmap -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Custom styled OSM map
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: I've been playing around with a new tool called maperitivehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maperitivelately which renders osm data on the fly and allows you to specifiy custom map rules. I'm developing a map style which is a lot more cleaner than the default mapnik one, you can check out the preview of the style here http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/5104440951/ Pretty! All this needs is a more prominent colour for water bodies. How would it look with a greater road density? Thanks. I'll give it a try. I wrote the style from scratch, so still a ong way to go Kiran ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Specific tags for India
Has anyone created a page on the OSM wiki for this before? we need to list these down instead of keeping it in the mails. Since i have never been a part of any of the proposal requests, im not sure how it works. It looks a bit unorganised. Do we keep a separate page under India/Proposed_features? -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Shooting OSM for CNN-IBN in Bangalore -reg
Cubbon park sounds like a good place for this. I'm in :) On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Alagesa Pandian alg...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I have been approached by the CNN-IBN reporter for a Shooting of Open Street Mapping in Bangalore, for a program they intend to broadcast on Coming friday. We are organizing a mini party around cubbon park. It would be nice bangalore mappers show up around 4:00pm tomorrow at cubbon park. Feel free to contact me, incase if you have any doubts. my number is +91 94426 49008 regards -pandian -- D. Alagesa Pandian mapunity.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping party at Pycon India 2010
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: I have started the process of mapping from yahoo imagery: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03091lon=77.56634zoom=17layers=M I am having some eye trouble, so can others help out also? If we do the preliminary stuff now, we can fine tune during the mapping party - and anyway once we show our map is better than goog we can convince the inpycon guys to use our map. If someone could cycle around the campus and also note places for refreshment etc, it would be cool. I have a cycle, and i stay close by. anyone else interested? -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] GPS tracks galore near madanapalle
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Tecoholic Maps tecohol...@gmail.comwrote: Hey, wow, that was fast. you did this in JOSM? I am sorry. But the excitement was too much for me. I just downloaded the traces and mapped everything I could. There is very little that could be mapped from those traces now. May be a local person could tag those ways as they are supposed to be. For the sake of simplicity and for the purpose of rendering I have tagged those ways as highway:unclassified. I am sorry if this is the wrong way of doing it, but this was the only way i could think of tagging them. Whoever traced those paths might be aware of the locality well. So correct them please. Thank you Planemad for helping me map GPS traces for the first time. I am looking forward for more of such action. by Arunmozhi tecohol...@gmail.com On 7/21/10, Tecoholic Maps tecohol...@gmail.com wrote: Can I dig in and map those GPS traces, If you haven't done them? by Arunmozhi tecohol...@gmail.com On 7/20/10, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: Discovered a whole bunch of unmapped gps tracks near Madanapalle, APhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=13.6343mlon=78.4479zoom=13layers=B000FTF. The traces are quite detailed too, although no sign of any settlement there. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Renumbering National Highways
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, The Ministry of Road Transport and Highways have released the new scientific numbering scheme[1]. We need to decide if we should move to the new numbering form or not. Also i think its better to have the old numbers as well. Probably we can have ref_old and ref_new keys.Now we have a totally new dimension to highways.(As though, we didnt have enough problems with it) I have been trying to figure out some kind of rationale behind the rationalized number scheme but couldnt figure out any. The pdf is quite a bit of a muddle at the moment and we should probably wait for a better document that has the old vs new numbers so that we dont incorrectly number the roads. ref_old sounds like a good plan. also, to familiarize people if the new/old numbers show up, it would really help. Definitely have On a different note, when i visited openstreetmap.in to check if someone has updated to new numbering scheme, i was shocked by seeing Sudhama Nagar replacing Bangalore.[2] I went and checked the data, sudhama nagar was perfectly normal and marked as a locality in Bangalore, which it is. OSM site displays this properly.Any idea on what could be the problem? It was incorrectly tagged as a state, i corrected it to locality but i guess it would take time for it to show up in the low zoom tiles. [1] http://dorth.gov.in/writereaddata/sublinkimages/finaldoc6143316640.pdf [2] http://openstreetmap.in/?zoom=7lat=13.12871lon=80.04694layers=B -- Regards Srikanth.L Google Profile http://j.mp/SrikanthL ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] GPS for sale
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ajay Shah ajays...@mayin.org wrote: I have put the Holux through some heavy duty use in Himachal and Kashmir recently and never had any problems apart from eating batteries. I did not have a high capacity rechargeable battery at hand, so had to buy alkalines throughout. A duracell lasts for about 6-8 hours, and i roughly used 3 cells every 2 days. Havent tried it with rechargeables yet. May I just doublecheck: Is the Holux fire and forget in that I switch it on and toss it in my backpack and forget about it? Or do I have to mess with it to verify that it's got the signal? What i do is toss it in my backpack and connect to via blue tooth using gpsmid on my phone. I have almost always got a fix with it sitting in my backpack and had no reason to take it out, except for switching it off while going indoors to save battery. So it is pretty much fire and forget. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] GPS for sale
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Ajay Shah ajays...@mayin.org wrote: I felt having two devices is a better option while doing long distance travelling. Atleast you dont have to worry about your phone's battery dying because of gps. And since i usually move aroud with my backpack i switch on the Holux and throw it inside. It has excellent reception even from inside the bag. I have wanted to use the Holux like this but have been put off by some people who have said (on the net) that when you switch it on, you have to worry about whether it's located the satellites, else it does not start logging. I want the exact functionality you suggest above: A GPS logger which will capture data when it can and be unfussy when it can't. Does the Holux 241 fit that bill? I have put the Holux through some heavy duty use in Himachal and Kashmir recently and never had any problems apart from eating batteries. I did not have a high capacity rechargeable battery at hand, so had to buy alkalines throughout. A duracell lasts for about 6-8 hours, and i roughly used 3 cells every 2 days. Havent tried it with rechargeables yet. I have been using the Geko201 from the OSM foundation till now, and it has been pretty lousy in terms of trace accuracy and signal reception. Compared to that the M241 has been far superior, i could get a fix inside moving trains and buses within a minute without even needing to keep it next to the window. Only on a couple of ocaissions in Himachal i did not get a fix for around 20 mins. I never found out the reason, but i'm guessing the only available satellites where behind the mountains. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] GPS for sale
I guess he meant off the list :) On a related note, if anyone in Bangalore has someone coming in from US and can arrange for a HOLUX M241http://www.holux.com/JCore/en/products/products_content.jsp?pno=341logger, please let me know. Or does anyone recommend any other bluetooth data logger? On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Tecoholic Maps tecohol...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have been planning to buy a simple Garmin device in the future. But I am unsure of the amount I might get to spend on it from my parents. So if you could, please quote the price. There is no information to contact you offline. If you could give it, that would be helpful. by Arunmozhi (Tecoholic) On 7/11/10, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have for sale, a Garmin Legend HCx (almost never used at all) with manuals that came with it. This was purchased from US. I bought it to contribute a bit to osm, but I don't have time to do that at this point and don't see it coming in foreseeable future. Please contact me offline if interested. thanks -- Ramakrishnan ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping party at Pycon India 2010
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: hi, calling pythonistas among us who may be attending pycon India - how about a meet up and a mapping party - I have 3 extra instruments. I'm a stones throw away from the venue,i'm in. But this is happening on sept 25th right? -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] State Of Country Posters - Deadline 8/07/2010 10AM
I had nominated Sajjad Anwar for the sotm scholarship and was hoping he would go, considering his efforts with geohackers.in and heritage walks, but sadly he didnt get selected. Not sure if there is anyone from India, atleast as part of the scholarship. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Ajay Shah ajays...@mayin.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:35:04PM +0100, Emilie Laffray wrote: State Of Country Who is representing India in SotM-2010? -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed changes to oxomoa schema [part 2: stops]
Shouldn't we keep the schema to something that is easily compatible with the Google Transit GTFS format instead of developing something different all together? I believe the GTFS was developed after extensive research on how transit companies actually manage their data and how that data can be used for routing. On the plus side the entire specification documentation and tools have been released under cc-by-sa. in addition to which transit agencies are making their feed public toohttp://code.google.com/p/googletransitdatafeed/wiki/PublicFeeds, making it easy to update routes. I haven't had the time to go through the proposed osm transit schema in detail, but i would hope that in the end, it would allow easy conversion to and from GTFS. This hasnt got anything to do with me supporting google transit, but just that i feel that the format is quite comprehensive and indepth, And in future when an OSM transit app comes out, agencies would be able to easily publish their data in the OSM schema as well without much hassle. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-in] Disturbing boundaries in FOSM
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2010 07:22:32 Arunmozhi wrote: I am using fosm to add some details in a city map. Someone has marked a boundary around that area and the fosm editor is displaying some sort of transparent color inside that boundary which is making the aerial imagery below to look foggy making it difficult to see the details. I tried creating a filter to disable the boundary still a greyish transparent layer remains making the aerial imagery foggy again. Is there a way i could see the things clearly inside a city boundary. yup, those boundaries were added with the AND import. It kindo of just gives one the idea of how big that town is, its better than nothing. But if you are planning to map details in that area, i cant see any good reason to hold onto it. delete. remove the boundary - most of these boundaries are inaccurate anyway - I even saw where one person had but a boundary around Bangalore showing where detailed yahoo imagery was available. And the Trivandrum and Mumbai boundaries left out most of the respective cities. the yahoo coverage boundary is not rendered. helps in keeping track of areas with high res imagery coverage http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/324844 -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Date of update
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:15 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote: For openstreetmap.in, is it possible to have information somewhere in the form: Last data updated on Sun May 23 02:13:11 IST 2010, and tiles rendering finished at Sun May 23 12:13:11 IST 2010 -- H.S.Rai Nice, i thought the server was down. Isnt there any way to update the data automatically from the osm server every week or so? -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[OSM-talk] Detailed tagging scheme for railways - India
I recently got addicted to mapping the railway network in India in detail using landsat imagery. Since i wasnt able to find any other railway mapping project which specified detailed mapping conventions, i came up with my own scheme which i've compiled here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Railways I'm pretty much done with the part for the permanent way tags. So i thought i'd toss it around to get some feedback and make amendments to it. Most of it seems pretty logical till now. Also the graphic that i made is my suggestions for the mapnik rendering of railway tags for the sidings and freight lines. Let me know what you guys think. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Miriyalguda and other places in AP
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Uma Ramana Rao uma.ramana...@gmail.comwrote: Arun, Can you send me walking papers, I will see what I can do with them. Regards Uma Uma, see if this is ok http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=h4k4tvtv otherwise you can create one yourself from http://walking-papers.org/#make Once you take the print out, you can fill in missing details, like road names, public utilities like police station, post boxes, banks/atms or anything else that you would like to be added on the map. After that you can scan the print and upload it to this http://walking-papers.org/upload.php we will be able to superimpose your scan on the osm map and transfer all the data that you marked. Here is an example of a scan from another uploader http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/scans/z6b8mc4b/large.jpg -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping the Indian Railway network using high resolution Landsat imagery
A more interesting visualization of the IR network with the age of the edits http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/4570968389/ -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Mapping the Indian Railway network using high resolution Landsat imagery
If nobody's noticed already, i've been adding a significant amount of railway lines in Southern India. Infact the entire railway network of Tamil Nadu and Kerala are in. It should start rendering in low zoom in a week i guess. You can check out an extract of the railway network processed with qgis herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tamil_Nadu_Urban_Areas_and_Railway_Connectivity_Map_(openstreetmap).png . How was the tracing done? Well, i seem to have uncovered a sharpened version of landsat imagery with which it is possible to identify details like railroads and major highways, especially if its running through fields/rural areas. In JOSM, goto the WMS plugin preferences and add the following url to access the sharpened global mosaic landsat tiles: http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/wms.cgi?SERVICE=WMSVERSION=1.1.1REQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=global_mosaicSTYLES=visual_lowFORMAT=image/jpeg; On important thing to note is that the landsat wms layer can be off by upto 100metres, so you might need to reposition the layer using gps tracks first. The resolution of these tiles are far superior to the default landsat imagery and you can mark highways, railroads, railway stations, airports, villages/built up areas, farmlands and waterbodies. I wonder why its not listed in the WMS plugin by default. If we can manage to put in the skeletal network of the railways in OSM, it will be easy to get members from IRFCA involved in adding more details. There are many of them who are so well versed with the railway network that they would be able to add station codes and station locations just by looking at the geometry of the railway lines. And later possibly even set up a dedicated Indian Railway OSM tile server, like whats available for the UK. I'm sure a lot of travel sites would be interested in something like that. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] WMS Plugin in JOSM: Error
For yahoo, you need the webkit. see this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPlugin Landsat should work, maybe there's a temporary overload On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Sajjad Anwar sajja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have enabled the WMS plugin in JOSM. But when I try loading either LANDSAT or Yahoo imagery it returns an error saying Exception Occured. What could be wrong? Thanks. Regards. -- Sajjad Anwar | http://geohackers.in | Blog: http://sajjad.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping the Indian Railway network using high resolution Landsat imagery
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: well, I travelled from coimbatore-pollachi-dindigul-madurai, the tracks were there - but no trains. broadgauge conversion is going on. How do we map this? I remember seeing some under-construction attribute for fly overs / roads. I think this can be used. i guess a railway=construction + construction=rail should work Btw you can check out the indian railway network extract here http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/4566060392/ -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Miriyalguda and other places in AP
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Uma Ramana Rao uma.ramana...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Arun, More traces uploaded. Will reply back to your email later. Regards Uma Done. The town is coming out nicely. Ive also used landsat satellite imagery to trace some of the village roads around the town. Ive tagged them as highway=road, so they will show up in grey. Everything traced from gps tracks are white (highway=unclassified) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.8688lon=79.565zoom=14layers=B000FTF -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Visthar and CIS office at Banagalore: Mapping help
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:24 AM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=13.06815mlon=77.65975zoom=15layers=B000FTF im guessing its the cluster of buildings, dont see anything else in that area More detailed imagery of the area may be found at: http://tinyurl.com/242mk86 -- H.S.Rai is there a way to get a hybrid view of osm maps and yahoo imagery? -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Visthar and CIS office at Banagalore: Mapping help
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:51 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: is there a way to get a hybrid view of osm maps and yahoo imagery? http://freegeographytools.com/2010/overlay-openstreet-map-data-transparently-on-googleyahoo-maps http://www.sergeychernyshev.com/maps.html#12.970769202345455,77.62664794921875,7,0 http://sautter.com/map/ -- H.S.Rai Nope, none of them seem to be a pure hybrid view. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Visthar and CIS office at Banagalore: Mapping help
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Shajeer Mohammed shaj...@hotmail.comwrote: You can use this site and enter the bus route number 295 - http://www.btis.in/ to see the route map. The Dodda Gubi village is shown here - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=77.6531772minlat=13.0512038maxlon=77.6931772maxlat=13.0912038 Regards Shajeer *From:* H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, 23 April 2010 14:17 *To:* talk-in talk-in@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* [Talk-in] Visthar and CIS office at Banagalore: Mapping help I will visit Bangalore next week. I located CIS office ( http://www.cis-india.org/about/contact) http://maps4change.cis-india.org/index.php/Third_Workshop_-_Visthar,_Bangalore,_26-28_April_2010 But could not find Visthar.http://www.visthar.org/contact-us/ couldn't help me. If anyone can give me latitude and longitude of Visthar, and names of streets. roads around CIS office and Visthar will help me a lot. http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.63514,12.96083,77.64302,12.96633layer=mapnikmarker=12.96431,77.63868 -- H.S.Rai I took a look at the map on the visthar site and i think i've found the mud road http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=13.06815mlon=77.65975zoom=15layers=B000FTF im guessing its the cluster of buildings, dont see anything else in that area -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Miriyalguda and other places in AP
Done. Uma, it would be great if you could do a comprehensive tracing of the town and cover most of the roads. Im assuming doing that for a place like Miryalaguda would just take an hour. If we can make a skeletal map of the street network you can start using http://walking-papers.org/ to take prints and quickly add points of interest. If you scan them, a bunch of us can help you to add the data to OSM. Also, if you are in touch with the municipal authorities, we can try exploring the use of OSM maps in public places like bus station or the railway station, and maybe even translate it into Telugu On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Uma Ramana Rao uma.ramana...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, More traces uploaded. Regards Uma On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:20 AM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Uma Ramana Rao uma.ramana...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I just uploaded my traces. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/CDPO_AP_IN/traces Regards, Uma I finished tracing all the tracks i could find in the Guntur-Miriyalguda-Nalgonda region. Let me know if i missed anything. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mumbai Map Cleanup
I just checked out the area, and it is littered with untagged nodes (43,000?http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4362880), like you said, the building geomentry is broken and there are no segments connecting the nodes :( Regarding using the mumbai freemap as a base, i have still not been able to access the map till date http://mumbai.freemap.in/ i can only see a bunch of points, and even that breaks when zoomed in. Does the dataset contain streetnames? On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@mit.edu wrote: Yesterday I uploaded a set of buildings for the Colaba-Cuffe Parade area of South Mumbai based on the datasets which our group CRIT created through our Mumbai Freemap project several years ago. Our shape files were converted to OSM using polyshp2osm.py and tagged and uploaded via JOSM. One can now see a sprinkling of new buildings here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.91115lon=72.81534zoom=15 Editing these files in JOSM is *very* slow and difficult, as is uploading via JOSM or using the batchupload py scripts. For each shape file we have for all of Greater Mumbai, the shp2osm conversion yields 40-50 osm files which must be uploaded individually. After trying just one file, less than half of the total buildings are being rendered by Mapnik, perhaps because their geometries are broken. But the process works, and with more time and effort could result in a major contribution to OSM which I've wanted to do for years now. The AND data for Mumbai is both generally skewed and is very inaccurate in some places (and fixed in others, thanks to volunteers). And it is mostly just major roads. I agree with Arun and Kenneth that it is perhaps easier to start afresh. Another option is to use our datasets as a base from which to start, via shp2osm conversion of our layers. Our freemap dataset contain layers for buildings, roads, and other public and reserved plots, with further work on conversion/import and mapping attributes to tags we could make a significant contribution to an entirely new OSM Mumbai either through direct upload or conflation with the existing coverage from AND and volunteers. Best, Shekhar PlaneMad wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.commailto: theplane...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience fixing Mumbai, i have come to realize that its pretty much impossible to realign the streets in parts without confusing yourself. I had started deleting unnamed AND ways to make the task easier, but that didnt help too much as you lose the reference street geometry to match with the yahoo imagery. I feel the best way to fix the map is to remove all the AND paths completely, start tracing the roads and name them by using an old extract of the original AND import as reference. Good idea? -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh Btw, i will be in Mumbai to attend India HCI at IIT powai from 20-24. If anybody else is attending, we could try to work something out with the IIT students. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
