Bug or?
Hi, is this a bug, or do I something wrong.. In TB I've five accounts, each with lots of own folders, each has it's own emailaddress, each have their own remote POP3 mailboxes. Now, this is what happens. Case 1: Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started with the default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I write the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'. What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that changed From: address. What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging to the used From: address. Result: The sending of the message fails. Case 2: The same thing happens when I want to reply by private mail on a message in a public maling list and I want to use another account with another emailaddress. When saving, the message is placed in the outbound from the account which is used for that mailing list, it should be placed in the outbound that belongs to the used changed emailaddress/account. How can that be corrected? -- Regards, Gunivortus Goos ... No nation was ever ruined by trade. -- Franklin The Bat! 3.0.2.6 under WinXP Pro 5, built 2600, Service Pack 1 - Boudicca's Bard http://www.boudicca.de GardenStone's Home Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: Autofiltering confession
Hi all, I had mentioned earlier that the new autofilter option no longer works for me. Neither does selecting a folder trigger the filters. Well the problem was my setup and not TB!. I had changed my main account name to something else. The paths to the target folders were not changed to reflect the new account name (I thought this used to happen in the past). As a result the messages were filtered but not moved since the target folder was unknown. I got my clue when I decided to check if manual filtering worked. The manual filter claimed the messages were filtered though they sat where they were. :) Anyway, this is what happens when you get accustomed to blaming IMAP bugs for all problems with IMAP. :) So this is mainly for 9Val that my autofiltering problems never really were. I still have that problem with filters copying and not moving large numbers of messages on filtering. I don't know what that one is about and the filter is configured correctly. I see that Martin Webster hasn't been able to duplicate the problem. -- -= Allie =- . Alone: In bad company. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug or?
Hello Gunivortus! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 12:42:32 PM you wrote: How can that be corrected? Options/Active account is what you are looking for. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Yes, *you* can make a difference. You just have to *do* something ... anything. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug or?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GG Hi, GG Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started with the GG default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the GG message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. I think that what you need to do is to select from the list of accounts in Options|Active Account to get the message to go in to the correct outbox. I hope this helps. - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Every time you make ends meet, they move the ends. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQZCvEtttnLhkydF1EQIjlwCg0nh7nTnV2+peZ32yzQF0+GONk7UAnj6q ukGyA/BSuaaeMQoFxtfxWfKj =syrk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Question about RSS2POP3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm using v1.2 and it's working just fine. But does it know about different versions of RSS? I ask 'cos I'm happily picking up the feed from places like http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/front_page/rss091.xml which identifies itself as rss version=0.91. However, http://weblogs.asp.net/cazzu/Rss.aspx says that it's rss version=2.0 and nothing is ever collected from it. - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2pop3. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com I was doing some decorating, so I got out my step-ladder. I don't get on with my real ladder. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQZCwJ9ttnLhkydF1EQKe3ACfWXWRalrhxSSFmRgO0dfWhof/MUIAn3wH 35hir7mNs2PFI2AbvPKQwL1U =3GjL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug or?
Hi Gunivortus, on Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:42:32 +0100GMT, you wrote: GG Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started with the GG default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the GG message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I write GG the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'. GG What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that GG changed From: address. GG What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging GG to the used From: address. GG Result: The sending of the message fails. In addition to changing the From change the account (right click on the account entry at the bottom of the New Message and select). -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1800MHz, 512 MB RAM Winamp currently playing: Portishead - Beautiful Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Possible bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been having a few problems with the Exchange Server here; occasionally it just refuses to relay mail out of the building. When this is happening and I try and send a message I get a dialog box showing a message something like .. Message has not been sent. Server reply - 5.7.1 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, if I've just dropped the message in the outbox and the system does a timed fetch/send there is no external indication that the message has not been sent (although the log is correctly updated). The danger of this is that if there is a problem with the server I might not know about it unless I create a message and send it immediately. I appreciate that it may be difficult to confirm this one without purposely throwing a spanner at your server. - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Error: Smash forehead on keyboard to continue -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQZCxcNttnLhkydF1EQLHmwCfXXvaVC3b2sVoFI/ZXQzYkh1DCa4AmgMA ILmAc+TGoilYCzNcJYR23sSp =ByBw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on: 08 November 2004 at 22:13:49 GMT +0100 TB It's parked, filed and marked all ready for tomorrow when I am going to try TB that. I just hope having two instances running will allow me to copy and TB paste my filters across. Well I tried it, it works a treat and my filters copy and paste across fine. Import a few messages and hopefully it'll be sorted. And I've installed the encrypted version inside the normal versions folder so that both versions get backed up together, respective registry entries included. Thanks Marek. All this excitement has got me replying to myself here... Sad, very sad :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 10:11 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 11:16, Tony Boom wrote: All this excitement has got me replying to myself here... Sad, very sad :) At least I hope you answer from one instance of TB! to another :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on: 09 November 2004 at 13:33:58 GMT +0100 MO At least I hope you answer from one instance of TB! to another :-) Funny you say that, I did :) It's almost as it was in the plain version but... In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my already aching brain -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 12:48 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Avi! On Monday, November 08, 2004, 6:25 PM, you wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences. All night that verse from Psalm 90 (v. 12 in the King James Version) has been running through my head: So teach us to number our days that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom. I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later, Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of the week. Sidebar: Interesting that in English all the names reflect pagan gods, mostly Norse (and nearly all of them also in German, if I understand that much German). Still, I am inclined to agree with you that The Bat!'s Scheduler should be flexible, to reflect the varying needs of its users, whether corporate or private. In just the same way as the reporting from various time zones is flexible. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on: 09 November 2004 at 13:54:44 GMT +0100 TB In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the TB top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me TB remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my TB already aching brain Scrub that, I sussed it. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 13:06 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Tony! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 6:54 AM, you wrote: TB In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the TB top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me TB remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my TB already aching brain This is a direct quote from the monthly Mission Statement from Marck: === For you to see peoples faces: To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch the following file: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory. Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. = Hope it's what you need! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull typed on: 09 November 2004 at 14:08:51 GMT +0100 MB Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now MB hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch MB TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. Couldn't get anything to work doing it as above. It works if you don't open the View/Editor options though. Thanks Mary :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 13:30 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Shortcut Keys not always working.
Hi all, This is an intermittent problem, but I'm unable to pinpoint what causes it. I can be reading messages and on pressing 'Esc' to close, nothing happens. I have to close the message manually by hitting the 'x' in the corner. It isn't just a case of 'Esc' not working, but any shortcuts such as 'Alt-Ctrl-M', 'Alt-]' etc Anyone else experiencing this? I have to close and re-open TB! to get them working again :-( -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Tony! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 7:31 AM, you wrote: MB Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. MB Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will MB re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. TB Couldn't get anything to work doing it as above. It works if you TB don't open the View/Editor options though. Ah. Okay. Then perhaps Marck needs to revise that part out of the instructions. P.S. I sent that less than a minute before I saw your post that you had sussed the difficulty and didn't need help. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello Marek, snipped And actually I have two instances of TB running, one uses encrypted base, second is without it. Interesting setup that I will have to try :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases
Hello MAU, A reminder of what MAU typed on: 09 November 2004 at 15:36:53 GMT +0100 M Interesting setup that I will have to try :) It works a treat. And you can cut and paste all your filters over from one to the other. Odd thing here is one filter got restored from the backup, one on it's own, none of the others at all... Why would one get restored and not all of them? Strange. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 14:51 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP Bug?
Ok is it me or a bug? On my IMAP account I receive an e-mail in my inbox. I read the mail and it shows on the inbox as being Read. I hit the Delete Message Icon and it is put in the trash folder, but it shows in the Trash as being Unread. Is this a bug or do I have a setting not properly checked/unchecked. Just wondering as it happens all the time and I can reproduce it 100% of the time. Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 under Windows XP/SP2 -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:01:42 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences. I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later, Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of the week. Sidebar: Interesting that in English all the names reflect pagan gods, mostly Norse (and nearly all of them also in German, if I understand that much German). Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? That has been my main point - and my main objection - from the beginning. I do *not* think that Ritlabs should follow the ISO standard on this point. I personally think that the ISO standard here is entirely philistine and likely to offend the sensibilities of many - both religious and non-religious. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:24 AM, you wrote: AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and AY let's not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting AY under Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes AY allowances for those differences. MB I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later, MB Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of MB the week. ... AY Mary, of course, I agree. ... Felt sure you did. That was how I interpreted your first posting, which went into the background of your philosophy at such length. AY ... And that was why in my very first posting on this subject I AY wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong case) become AY the first day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the AY seventh day of the week? That has been my main point - and my AY main objection - from the beginning. I do *not* think that Ritlabs AY should follow the ISO standard on this point. I personally think AY that the ISO standard here is entirely philistine and likely to AY offend the sensibilities of many - both religious and AY non-religious. As I said in my reply, I agree with your first paragraph quoted above, that the Scheduler should be flexible and allow users a choice. And as I wrote--somewhat lightheartedly in my first comment on this thread--I'm just happy to get any real-world days at all: no way of knowing how many Ive got left! :) I do think this matter should have the attention of the programmers. Should we make a wish, or a BT report? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 4:24:56 PM you wrote: Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from Jews - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was obviously misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting day! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Sonar no cuesta nada (Träumen kostet nichts.). Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Dierk! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote: AV Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first AV posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' AV (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and AV 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week? DH Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from DH Jews - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was DH obviously misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting DH day! Dierk, I did misunderstand you. Sorry. In my fundamentalist Christian upbringing I was taught that Sunday is the first day of the week. A scripture was quoted to justify having the communion service on Sunday: And on the first day of the week, when the disciples were gathered together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, and continued his speech until midnight. Of course, the word Sunday wasn't used in the scripture. But those of that sect which I was brought up in, taught that Sunday was what was meant. And they called Sunday the first day of the week. As you know, I am of the agnostic/atheist persuasion now. And it's a matter of no importance to me how the Scheduler is set up. I just thought that those to whom it does seem important should have a choice. As I said to Avi, just now. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it? - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Children seldom misquote you. (In fact, they usually repeat word for word what you shouldn't have said.) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQZDpp9ttnLhkydF1EQKoJwCfeyFOyLQtrJvbqsdE6yia7SFFfKsAmgNd Dw+WgYwLvy0SaBziLsYO4j5a =7z6R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Stuart! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 10:00 AM, you wrote: SH Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it? No, I don't think so, myself. It's the philosophical underpinning as to what should be available in The Bat!'s Scheduler. Do you not agree? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MB Do you not agree? No not really. The point was covered when someone suggested that the start of the week should be configurable. Maybe I'm being short but I've just lived through this same discussion on my online conferencing system about their calendar. Let's just post a wish on BT for it to be configurable and move on. - -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.3, MyGate and rss2mail. PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com A short fortune teller escaped from prison, the Headlines read Small medium at large. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQZDukNttnLhkydF1EQI/awCgsnqhbf5kCPggADQNFe+Gc9+bdyQAoN+C jmuT1ooraQzZYcUup62DgEMz =YDy0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Quoting Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Dierk! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote: --snipped- I just thought that those to whom it does seem important should have a choice. As I said to Avi, just now. :) What I determine to be said here, under the desires of beta testers and their dialog, is that TB should be as flexible in this regard as it is with the use of QTs, templates, regular expressions, et al. It should allow the users to configure the program to best fit their tasks. Dennis -- Dennis Hays http://www.HaysDesign.com http://www.egseries.com +1 518.331.3232 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Official post (WAS: Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta)
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else on 09-Nov-2004 at 02:20:39 (GMT +0100), you wrote: BA Which? Can I set a filter to this? Well, you could try to filter on a mail send by one of the Ritlabs guys (put them into your AB) sending a new message. (No In-Reply-To: header present) I have a Virtual Folder for that (I did mention it before, ys): Sender contains @ritlabs. AND message source does not contain References: (pity we can't copypaste VF filter conditions like standard filters :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 About 1978, IBM put out a poster touting the virtues of VM. On this poster was the text: If it's there and you can see it - it's real. If it's not there and you can see it - it's virtual. If it's there and you can't see it - it's transparent. If it's not there and you can't see it - you erased it! Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(
Hi all, This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB! often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU usage. For example, I wasn't using TB! for a while, and on returning to my machine, I noticed that my CPU was at 100%. On opening Task Manager, TB! was using all available CPU and had been for as long the Task Manager could display! I had to use task manager to kill it :-( Also, TB! would randomly crash. Again, I was working away here and then I'd get the windows message asking if I wanted to send the error report to Microsoft. I've no idea what triggered it! IMAP is also proving testing; I've had to un-check the option to 'Use Precise Counters', as it was causing problems when I was reading mail. After marking a message as read, the counters would go all strange. It would show all as read, but then would appear unread again. It would take a couple of entering and leaving the folders in question and re-marking the messages as read before it would update fully. This is using a 2MB up and down line. I also often get empty lists and messages. On opening a folder, would check the folder then close without displaying the messages within the folder. Also, when opening mail, it would open a different message to that of the one selected to be opened. Although, I very often get a message that states it's unable to open the message. To add insult to injury, whilst writing this message, I have received 3 AV's all reading the same; AV address = 00975BFC Module = thebat.exe Read address = 00B8 Is anyone else experiencing so many problems or can I provide any further info? -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(
CW AV's all reading the same; CW AV address = 00975BFC CW Module = thebat.exe CW Read address = 00B8 I can comfirm this - but with another problem i suddenly have: I cannot delete messages anymore!!! I always get the above error. Restarting TB! doesn´t change this. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Grams ## Harlekin's-EDV Christian Grams Görlitzer Strasse 69 34123 Kassel Tel.: +49 (561) 8203089 Fax.: +49 (561) 8203088 Mob.: +49 (174) 5802274 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## E-Mail Disclaimer: http://www.harlekin-edv.de/email/email.html PGP-Key: http://pgp.upb.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0xD775BF12 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(
Chris Weaven [CW], wrote: CW This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB! CW often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU CW usage. ...snip CW IMAP is also proving testing; Sorry to hear this... quite a different experience for me now. But I have had similar problems and managed to solve them by clearing the local cache. This resolved the following three issues: CW After marking a message as read, the counters would go all CW strange. It would show all as read, but then would appear unread CW again. It would take a couple of entering and leaving the folders CW in question and re-marking the messages as read before it would CW update fully. This is using a 2MB up and down line. CW I also often get empty lists and messages. On opening a folder, would CW check the folder then close without displaying the messages within the CW folder. CW Also, when opening mail, it would open a different message to that of CW the one selected to be opened. Although, I very often get a message that CW states it's unable to open the message. Unfortunately, the Maintenance Centre does not help. Indeed it frequently makes things worse when using IMAP. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The certainties of one age are the problems of the next. RH TAWNEY, 1926 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(
Hello Chris Weaven everyone else on 09-Nov-2004 at 18:22:42 (GMT +0100), you wrote: This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB! often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU usage. I remember that on TBUDL there was a discussion about a similar problem in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - maybe it is related? Are you using HTML? Also, TB! would randomly crash. Again, I was working away here and then I'd get the windows message asking if I wanted to send the error report to Microsoft. I've no idea what triggered it! I usually turn off that stupid error reporting feature, its nothing but an annoyance. :) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 One can't judge Wagner's opera Lohengrin after a first hearing, and I certainly don't intend hearing it a second time. -- Gioacchino Rossini Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
cannot create message base
Hi all, I just had an error that I have not seen in a few betas. Upon manual filtering of an INBOX for an IMAP account, I received a cannot create message base. I would assume this is a failure of rebuilding the local cache after the moving of some email to its appropriate folder. I must log out from the account and restart it. Just wanted to let 9Val know. -- Best regards, Gary Using 3.0.2.6 Windows 2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(
Hello Chris, A reminder of what Chris Weaven typed on: 09 November 2004 at 18:22:58 GMT +0100 CW Is anyone else experiencing so many problems or can I provide any CW further info? None at all, 3026 is exceptionally stable here. I'm using it in On-The_Fly Pwd mode and it's running super. The only AV I've seen was when I tried to restore from a backup with 3025 while changing over to encryption mode but none at all while the program is running. Program is using 18,688k and the CPU shows 00 at the time I'm writing this. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 18:18 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On 2004-11-09 at 16:57:38 Mary Bull wrote: In my fundamentalist Christian upbringing I was taught that Sunday is the first day of the week. A scripture was quoted to justify having the communion service on Sunday: I'm not a Christian (IANAC :), but Genesis 2 seems to say (after the creation of, well, everything): 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. How much more plain would you like it? :) Anyway, it should be configurable of course, since this tends to differ by country, AFAICS. pgpFkxp5wn46p.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Dimitry! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 12:44 PM, you wrote: DA How much more plain would you like it? :) :) DA Anyway, it should be configurable of course, since this tends to DA differ by country, AFAICS. Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's going to do it and is it a Wish? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Wish: HTML inline forwarding
Hello everyone, as discussed on TBUDL (see subj.): https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Alien Homes by Orichalcum The Deviant from the 1997 album 'Orichalcum The Deviant' Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 09 November 2004 at 20:58:51 GMT +0100 ASK Hello everyone, ASK as discussed on TBUDL (see subj.): ASK https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036 Not too sure what you mean by this? I received a legal email today in html format with a word.doc attachment. I just forwarded it to another account and it arrived in exactly the same format, html and doc attachment except as you say the forward headers. Redirect works even better, it's absolutely identical in every way to the original minus any forward headers. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 20:08 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 10:21:35 AM, Stuart Hemming wrote: Let's just post a wish on BT for it to be configurable and move on. I guess the world could be a better place if everyone could decide they were ready to move on at the same time. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 1:56:44 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: And Sabbath (don't nail me on any Reformed sect in Judaism) starts with sunset Friday evening and ends with sunset on Saturday, thus Sunday would be the first working day of the week. Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said let there be light In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday, which is Lunes and so presumable related to the moon as well, and ended with Domingo, which I think has nothing to do with the sun. I do not recall the days in French, never studied Latin, or any Germanic languages (other than English) and gave up on Russian soon after getting the counting from 1 to 10. Non-European languages are beyond me as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Dwight, A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin typed on: 09 November 2004 at 21:58:22 GMT +0100 DAC In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday, I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25. As a Foster Parent you can't have a day off from caring for kids. All my kids go to school from Monday to Friday. All they say every day when they get home is Are we going camping at the weekend? So for me, that's when it is. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 21:12 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?
If you open the attached message in Notepad, you will see it ends with the word HOME on a separate line. If you open it in TB!, the last line is truncated to HO. Same happens if you import it. If I open it with Notepad, place the cursor at the last position, hit enter and then save the file, I can open it or import it in to TB! without loosing the trailing ME. This actually was how the message did look like from the beginning, it was me removing the trailing CR/LF before importing it. Now, before I open up a bug report, is this a bug, or are there some RFC(s) specifying a message *should* end with CR/LF? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc ---BeginMessage--- Bästa Home-användare Home vill börja med att be om ursäkt för de eventuella olägenheter som kan ha orsakats er under de senaste dagarna. I tisdags kväll hade vi på Home ett haveri på lagringsdiskarna på servern som hanterar e-mailadresserna som börjar på bokstäverna H-M. Servern har två lagringsdiskar som är speglade, det vill säga innehåller samma information. Det osannolika inträffade och båda diskarna gick sönder. Därmed blev all hämtning av mail omöjlig för många användare. En ny server och två nya diskar har nu ersatt den gamla utrustningen så nu går det att skicka och läsa mail igen. Mail som har skickats till era mailboxar mellan kraschen och den nya utrustningen placerades i kö. Dessa har precis levererats till era mailboxar. Gamla mail som ni har haft i era mailboxar påverkas också av haveriet. Just nu pågår reparationer av de gamla diskarna för att återskapa era gamla mail. Eftersom båda diskarna har gått sönder kan vi inte garantera att samtliga mail kan återställas, även om det är vår förhoppning. Enligt den lösning vi nu arbetar på kommer återskapade mail inte att automatiskt hamna i era mailboxar, ni kommer ni att få hämta upp dessa själva. Mer information om hur och när ni kommer åt era gamla mail återkommer vi om på homes hemsida. För mer information ber vi er gå in på www.home.se som vi uppdaterar löpande. Med vänliga hälsningar HOMEF01202B5A7927D-End Message--- Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 22:21, Tony Boom wrote: I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25. How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-) -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Dwight! On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 10:00:27 PM you wrote: Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said let there be light Now, I - the avowed atheist - do have only an AV here but a quick look tells me that it is the third sentence of Genesis, Let there be light. And it is Genesis 2/2 in which it says ... and he rested on the seventh day. For whatever reason, that 7th day was honoured by the chosen ones, the people God tested throughout the whole Old Testament, as Sabbath. The rest of the history of the Resting Day I recounted last time, I won't do it again. As so many other folks already wrote (not with this wording, granted): Nothing to see here, move on, everything's alright. For the sake of cultural relativism, let RITLabs make TB as flexible as possible, Jews and traditionalists may want to start their week on the last day of the week-end, others may choose Saturday, I do like the ISO-norm, if only to make business easy. And I have no idea on what day Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines or Heterocephalus glaber do start their (working) week. It's totally arbitrary! -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity. (Derek Leveret) Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 22:32, Marcus Ohlström wrote: If you open the attached message in Notepad, you will see it ends with the word HOME on a separate line. It did, until I saved the message in my outbox :-/ Now trying again. Unpack attached message and try the step outlined in my previous email. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc tbmsg.rar Description: Binary data Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calendars
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on: 09 November 2004 at 22:35:20 GMT +0100 MO How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-) Because that's the shift my Wife works :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 09/11/2004 at 21:43 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:45:45 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote: Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from Jews - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was obviously misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting day! Dierk, I think this discussion tends to go OT. Therefore, I am trying not to fan the flames, so to speak. But, FWIW, I think that your analysis is a bit simplistic. Logically, there is no reason why the week must end with a resting day rather than begin with a resting day. Moreover, AFAIK, most historians do not think that early Christians moved their sabbath from Saturday to Sunday only to distinguish themselves from Jews. That was one reason, no doubt. But another reason, and perhaps a more important reason, was to compete with popular Roman religions, most notably Mithraism, whose primary day of worship was the first day of the week (Sunday) rather than the last day of the week (Saturday). This became important circa 50AD when James the Less took the ruling decision to accept gentiles into the early Christian Community at the Council of Jerusalem (as reported in chapter 15 of Acts). Rather than pursue this debate here, let me just recommend a book on this and many related topics. (Mary, you might also find this book interesting.) You can read it online or download it for printing at http://www.israel.amps.org/FFF/ -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mary Bull wrote: Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's going to do it and is it a Wish? The spelling is a mistake. The numbering seems to be a limitation (and an annoyance). But as spelling and many of the various GUI goofs are somewhat akin to the whole documentation issue, then I guess you could say that all of this falls somewhere in the realm of unfullfilled dreams. :-) Mary, you understand the problem, and you also know your way around BT better than most of us. I haven't a clue where to file wishes. (Usually I just sprinkle a little fairy dust and think happy thoughts.) So I am content to let you manage the report if you will be kind enough to do so. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.5 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
Hello Avi! On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote: MB Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, MB who's going to do it and is it a Wish? AY The spelling is a mistake. ... The spelling has been corrected in v. 3.0.2.6 . So the programmers are reading us. AY The numbering seems to be a limitation (and an annoyance). ... To some it is. And others potentially may find it so. AY ... So I am content to let you manage the report if you will be AY kind enough to do so. In that case, I think I shall wait and see what the next beta brings, as the spelling was corrected in this one. It is not a big concern to me--will not affect my life at all to have the numbering begin 1 Monday. But I do think the option to renumber the days should be there for those who want it. It may happen even without a formal wish being written up at BT. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
How to add KAV anti-virus plugin
Hello tbbeta, There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV anti-virus plugin now. -- Best regards, Bobi Jam TB! 3.0.2.6 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.7.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin
Hello Bobi, Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 23:37 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV anti-virus plugin now. Go back to a older version (e.g. 2.10.03 Final) add the PlugIn and go to your current version again. HTH? Nor Ritlas neither Kaspersky shows the will to support the PlugIn longer. IMHO: Very stupid - and Kaspersky will maybe lose me as user. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin
Hello all, Wednesday, November 10, 2004, Boris Anders wrote: There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV anti-virus plugin now. Go back to a older version (e.g. 2.10.03 Final) add the PlugIn and go to your current version again. HTH? Nor Ritlas neither Kaspersky shows the will to support the PlugIn longer. IMHO: Very stupid - and Kaspersky will maybe lose me as user. there were problems on KAV part, which Kapersky didn't tried to solve, so Ritlabs removed internal support for COM interface. And Kapsersky removed COM interface in version 5.x and added POP3 proxy instead. Ritlabs released BAV plugin for Kaspersky, but I didn't tested it, I hate Kaspersky, version 4 was worst antivirus I have ever used. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin
Bobi Jam wrotes on 10/11/2004 at 09:37:51 +1100 subject How to add KAV anti-virus plugin : Hello tbbeta, There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV anti-virus plugin now. Please read the thread beginning with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Read also the bugtracker: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3351 As a work around to add COM-Plugin follow this hint given in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Add or replace the lines of bottom in the file avconfig.ini (is in the thebat mail path) and no need anymore the .bav: [Checkers] Count=1 Checker #1=TAVP_Checker. The BAV-Plugin from Ritlabs is just some joke, as it will only drive the com-Plugin. Without a correctly registered COM-Plugin the BAV plugin does not work. You can download the latest version of the COM-Plugin 4.0.1.19 from www.thebatworld.de or directly from http://www.oesterlin.de.vu/div/kav-com-plugin-4_0_1_19.rar -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.4 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin
Hello Bobi, Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 4:37:51 PM, you wrote: BJ Hello tbbeta, BJ There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the BJ anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV BJ anti-virus plugin now. After upgrading to kav 5 personal pro a lot of options were lost from 4.5. I sent kav a e-mail (no response) and posted on forum about loss of virus checking in The Bat. IMO kav personal pro 5.0 is a step backwards from 4.5 and I am looking for a new customizable antivirus program. AVG,Avast and Nod 32 need not apply. -- Best regards, RMorris TheBat!3.0.2.5 Professional Edition www.ritlabs.com AntiSpam-Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 forget bayesit! it does not work!! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding
Hello Tony, Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 9:14:44 PM, you wrote: Redirect works even better, it's absolutely identical in every way to the original minus any forward headers. But no matter which you choose, forward or redirect, the original HTML message will *always* be an attachment, and not inline. When you forward a text message, you have the message in the editor (inline); when you forward HTML, you have an attachment. That *may* be OK for forwarding (but there should be an option to choose attach or inline, really), but it definitely is not for redirecting. When I redirect a message I want it to appear exactly as it was, and not as a clumsy .eml or .msg attachment to a plain text mail. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 17:24 (which was Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 16:24 where I am) Avi Yashar wrote: I do *not* think that Ritlabs should follow the ISO standard on this point. I personally think that the ISO standard here is entirely philistine and likely to offend the sensibilities of many - both religious and non-religious. Regardless of which day you list first, there might be at least one person who will be offended. On my Palm organizer, I use an alternat calendar application called DateBk5 (found on http://www.pimlicosoftware.com in case someone is interested) that, unlike the default built-in calendar, has the ability to specify any weekday as the first day of the week. Interface and programmingwise I think we would be adding unnecessary complexity to the preferences sheet in question if Ritlabs would have to shift the weekdays depending on the cultural or religious background of the user, but others may differ. I think that at least two wishes are in order: 1) to have an option specifying the first day of the week and 2) that only abbreviations be used to reference the days of the week and not numbers. I have the feeling that much more than the order of presentation, the fact that they are so explicitly numbered now is part of the reason why this thread is getting so many messages. On another note, I find it funny that while several people are using religious arguments why Ritlabs should not enforce the use of ISO calendar standards upon us, I have so far not seen any requests to have TB! support other calendar systems such as the Jewish or Muslim calendars that obviously differ from the generally used Gregorian one. In case Ritlabs is interested, there is a great book called 'Calendrical calculations' that shows conversion methods between some 30 calendars including the aforementioned Jewish, Muslim and Gregorian calendars and includes also Bahai, Maya, Koptic, Julian etc. The related website is http://www.calendarists.com/. As a matter of history, months and weeks (ordering days in groups of around 29 and exactly 7 days) pre-date muslim, christian and jewish beliefs alike. In most germanic languages and even in English (anglo-saxon), the names of the days are derived from nature and scandinavian gods. Other languages may have the same, but I'm not familiar enough with them to comment. One thing though: although in recent history Russia has been under communist atheist rule for quite some time, I don't believe the communists ever touched their word for Sunday: Voskresenie (my Russian-English transcription may be off, I'm Dutch) which literally means: resurrection day, refering to the day that Christ resurrected from the grave. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.0.2.6; ; Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6; AJS v0.6; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.0.2.6 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/