Bug or?

2004-11-09 Thread Gunivortus Goos
Hi,

is this a bug, or do I something wrong..

In TB I've five accounts, each with lots of own folders, each has it's own 
emailaddress, each have their own remote POP3 mailboxes.

Now, this is what happens.
Case 1:
Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started with the
default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I write
the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'.
What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that
 changed From: address. 
What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging
 to the used From: address.
Result: The sending of the message fails.

Case 2:
The same thing happens when I want to reply by private mail on a message in 
a public maling list and I want to use another account with another 
emailaddress.
When saving, the message is placed in the outbound from the account which is 
used for that mailing list, it should be placed in the outbound that belongs to 
the used changed emailaddress/account.

How can that be corrected?

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IMAP: Autofiltering confession

2004-11-09 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all,

I had mentioned earlier that the new autofilter option no longer works
for me. Neither does selecting a folder trigger the filters. Well the
problem was my setup and not TB!.

I had changed my main account name to something else. The paths to the
target folders were not changed to reflect the new account name (I
thought this used to happen in the past). As a result the messages
were filtered but not moved since the target folder was unknown.

I got my clue when I decided to check if manual filtering worked. The
manual filter claimed the messages were filtered though they sat where
they were. :)

Anyway, this is what happens when you get accustomed to blaming IMAP
bugs for all problems with IMAP. :) So this is mainly for 9Val that my
autofiltering problems never really were.

I still have that problem with filters copying and not moving large
numbers of messages on filtering. I don't know what that one is about
and the filter is configured correctly. I see that Martin Webster
hasn't been able to duplicate the problem.


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Re: Bug or?

2004-11-09 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Gunivortus!

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 12:42:32 PM you wrote:

 How can that be corrected?

Options/Active account is what you are looking for.





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Re: Bug or?

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Hemming
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GG Hi,

GG Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started 
with the
GG default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
GG message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up.
I think that what you need to do is to select from the list of
accounts in Options|Active Account to get the message to go in to the
correct outbox.

I hope this helps.

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Question about RSS2POP3

2004-11-09 Thread shemming
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I'm using v1.2 and it's working just fine. But does it know about
different versions of RSS? I ask 'cos I'm happily picking up the feed
from places like
http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/newsonline_world_edition/front_page/rss091.xml
which identifies itself as rss version=0.91. However,
http://weblogs.asp.net/cazzu/Rss.aspx says that it's
rss version=2.0 and nothing is ever collected from it.

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Re: Bug or?

2004-11-09 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Gunivortus,

on Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:42:32 +0100GMT, you wrote:

GG Being with a browser online, I click on an email link and TB is started 
with the
GG default account. however, I want to use another account, so I change in the
GG message the From: address, choosing one in the list that pops up. Then I 
write
GG the email and click on: 'put the message in the outbox'.
GG What happens... the message is placed in the default outbox, but with that
GG  changed From: address. 
GG What should happen: The message should be placed in the outbox belonging
GG  to the used From: address.
GG Result: The sending of the message fails.

In addition to changing the From change the account (right click on
the account entry at the bottom of the New Message and select).

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Possible bug?

2004-11-09 Thread shemming
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I've been having a few problems with the Exchange Server here;
occasionally it just refuses to relay mail out of the building. When
this is happening and I try and send a message I get a dialog box
showing a message something like ..

Message has not been sent. Server reply - 5.7.1 Unable to relay for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

However, if I've just dropped the message in the outbox and the system
does a timed fetch/send there is no external indication that the
message has not been sent (although the log is correctly updated). The
danger of this is that if there is a problem with the server I might
not know about it unless I create a message and send it immediately.

I appreciate that it may be difficult to confirm this one without
purposely throwing a spanner at your server.

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on:
  08 November 2004 at 22:13:49 GMT +0100

TB  It's parked, filed and marked all ready for tomorrow when I am going to try
TB  that. I just hope having two instances running will allow me to copy and
TB  paste my filters across.

 Well I tried it, it works a treat and my filters copy and paste across
 fine. Import a few messages and hopefully it'll be sorted.

 And I've installed the encrypted version inside the normal versions folder
 so that both versions get backed up together, respective registry entries
 included.

 Thanks Marek.

 All this excitement has got me replying to myself here... Sad, very sad :)


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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 11:16, Tony Boom wrote:

  All this excitement has got me replying to myself here... Sad, very
  sad :)

At least I hope you answer from one instance of TB! to another :-)

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 13:33:58 GMT +0100

MO At least I hope you answer from one instance of TB! to another :-)

 Funny you say that, I did :)

 It's almost as it was in the plain version but...

 In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the
 top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me
 remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my
 already aching brain


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Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi!

On Monday, November 08, 2004, 6:25 PM, you wrote:

AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's
AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under
AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes
AY allowances for those differences.

All night that verse from Psalm 90 (v. 12 in the King James Version)
has been running through my head:

So teach us to number our days that we may apply our hearts unto
wisdom.

I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later,
Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of
the week. Sidebar: Interesting that in English all the names reflect
pagan gods, mostly Norse (and nearly all of them also in German, if I
understand that much German).

Still, I am inclined to agree with you that The Bat!'s Scheduler
should be flexible, to reflect the varying needs of its users, whether
corporate or private. In just the same way as the reporting from
various time zones is flexible.

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 13:54:44 GMT +0100

TB  In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the
TB  top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me
TB  remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my
TB  already aching brain

 Scrub that, I sussed it.


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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 6:54 AM, you wrote:

TB In the other version little photo's of people used to show at the
TB top right hand side of the preview pane, can't for the life of me
TB remember or find the setting that does it. Anyone refresh my my
TB already aching brain

This is a direct quote from the monthly Mission Statement from Marck:
===
For you to see peoples faces:

  To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
  the following file:
  http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip

  Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
  directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
  You  should  now  have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
  images  as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
  Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
  hit  Shift-CTRL-Alt-T  while  TB!  is in focus. This will re-fetch
  TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.
=

Hope it's what you need!

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary,

  A reminder of what Mary Bull typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 14:08:51 GMT +0100

MB   Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
MB   hit  Shift-CTRL-Alt-T  while  TB!  is in focus. This will re-fetch
MB   TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.

 Couldn't get anything to work doing it as above. It works if you don't
 open the View/Editor options though.

 Thanks Mary :)


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Shortcut Keys not always working.

2004-11-09 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi all,

This is an intermittent problem, but I'm unable to pinpoint what causes
it.

I can be reading messages and on pressing 'Esc' to close, nothing
happens. I have to close the message manually by hitting the 'x' in the
corner.

It isn't just a case of 'Esc' not working, but any shortcuts such as
'Alt-Ctrl-M', 'Alt-]' etc

Anyone else experiencing this?

I have to close and re-open TB! to get them working again :-(
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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 7:31 AM, you wrote:

MB Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options.
MB Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will
MB re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.

TB Couldn't get anything to work doing it as above. It works if you
TB don't open the View/Editor options though.

Ah. Okay. Then perhaps Marck needs to revise that part out of the
instructions.

P.S. I sent that less than a minute before I saw your post that you
had sussed the difficulty and didn't need help. :)

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread MAU
Hello Marek,

snipped
 And actually I have two instances of TB running, one uses encrypted
 base, second is without it.

Interesting setup that I will have to try :)

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Re: More running instances of The Bat! with different mailbases

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 15:36:53 GMT +0100

M Interesting setup that I will have to try :)

 It works a treat. And you can cut and paste all your filters over from
 one to the other.

 Odd thing here is one filter got restored from the backup, one on it's
 own, none of the others at all... Why would one get restored and not
 all of them? Strange.


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IMAP Bug?

2004-11-09 Thread Michael Acklin
Ok is it me or a bug?

On my IMAP account I receive an e-mail in my inbox. I read the mail
and it shows on the inbox as being Read.

I hit the Delete Message Icon and it is put in the trash folder, but
it shows in the Trash as being Unread.

Is this a bug or do I have a setting not properly checked/unchecked.

Just wondering as it happens all the time and I can reproduce it 100%
of the time.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:01:42 -0600, Mary Bull wrote:

 AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and let's
 AY not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting under
 AY Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes
 AY allowances for those differences.

 I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later,
 Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of
 the week. Sidebar: Interesting that in English all the names reflect
 pagan gods, mostly Norse (and nearly all of them also in German, if I
 understand that much German).

Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first posting on
this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong
case) become the first
day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of
the week? That has been my main point - and my main objection - from
the beginning. I do *not* think that Ritlabs should follow the ISO
standard on this point. I personally think that the ISO standard here
is entirely philistine and likely to offend the sensibilities of many
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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:24 AM, you wrote:

AY ... But, despite ISO's standard, any decent scheduler - and
AY let's not forget that all of this discussion about a TB setting
AY under Preferences is in connection with the TB scheduler - makes
AY allowances for those differences.

MB I'm sure you will agree with Dierk that under Jewish (and later,
MB Christian) tradition, Sunday was from the beginning the first day of
MB the week. ...

AY Mary, of course, I agree. ...

Felt sure you did. That was how I interpreted your first posting,
which went into the background of your philosophy at such length.

AY ... And that was why in my very first posting on this subject I
AY wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong case) become
AY the first day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the
AY seventh day of the week? That has been my main point - and my
AY main objection - from the beginning. I do *not* think that Ritlabs
AY should follow the ISO standard on this point. I personally think
AY that the ISO standard here is entirely philistine and likely to
AY offend the sensibilities of many - both religious and
AY non-religious.

As I said in my reply, I agree with your first paragraph quoted above,
that the Scheduler should be flexible and allow users a choice.

And as I wrote--somewhat lightheartedly in my first comment on this
thread--I'm just happy to get any real-world days at all: no way of
knowing how many Ive got left! :)

I do think this matter should have the attention of the programmers.
Should we make a wish, or a BT report?

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Avi!

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 4:24:56 PM you wrote:

 Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first posting on
 this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday' (misspelled and wrong
 case) become the first
 day of the week and 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of
 the week?

Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from Jews
- shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was obviously
misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting day!





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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dierk!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote:

AV Mary, of course, I agree. And that was why in my very first
AV posting on this subject I wrote: Since when has 'manday'
AV (misspelled and wrong case) become the first day of the week and
AV 'sunday' (wrong case) become the seventh day of the week?

DH Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from
DH Jews - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was
DH obviously misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting
DH day!

Dierk, I did misunderstand you. Sorry.

In my fundamentalist Christian upbringing I was taught that Sunday is
the first day of the week. A scripture was quoted to justify having
the communion service on Sunday:

And on the first day of the week, when the disciples were gathered
together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, and continued his
speech until midnight.

Of course, the word Sunday wasn't used in the scripture. But those of
that sect which I was brought up in, taught that Sunday was what was
meant. And they called Sunday the first day of the week.

As you know, I am of the agnostic/atheist persuasion now. And it's a
matter of no importance to me how the Scheduler is set up.

I just thought that those to whom it does seem important should have a
choice. As I said to Avi, just now. :)

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Hemming
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Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it?

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 10:00 AM, you wrote:

SH Fascinating as this is, it's wandered a bit OT hasn't it?

No, I don't think so, myself. It's the philosophical underpinning as
to what should be available in The Bat!'s Scheduler.

Do you not agree?

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Stuart Hemming
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MB Do you not agree?
No not really. The point was covered when someone suggested that the
start of the week should be configurable.

Maybe I'm being short but I've just lived through this same discussion
on my online conferencing system about their calendar.

Let's just post a wish on BT for it to be configurable and move on.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dennis Hays
Quoting Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hello Dierk!

 On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 9:45 AM, you wrote:
--snipped-
 I just thought that those to whom it does seem important
 should have a
 choice. As I said to Avi, just now. :)


What I determine to be said here, under the desires of beta
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this regard as it is with the use of QTs, templates, regular
expressions, et al. It should allow the users to configure the
program to best fit their tasks.

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Re: OT: Official post (WAS: Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.6 beta)

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Roelof Otten  everyone else

on 09-Nov-2004 at 02:20:39 (GMT +0100), you wrote:

BA Which? Can I set a filter to this?

 Well, you could try to filter on a mail send by one of the Ritlabs
 guys (put them into your AB) sending a new message. (No In-Reply-To:
 header present)

I have a Virtual Folder for that (I did mention it before, ys):

  Sender contains @ritlabs.
  AND
  message source does not contain References:

(pity we can't copypaste VF filter conditions like standard filters :-)

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Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-09 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi all,

This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB!
often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU
usage.

For example, I wasn't using TB! for a while, and on returning to my
machine, I noticed that my CPU was at 100%. On opening Task Manager, TB!
was using all available CPU and had been for as long the Task Manager
could display!

I had to use task manager to kill it :-(

Also, TB! would randomly crash. Again, I was working away here and then
I'd get the windows message asking if I wanted to send the error report
to Microsoft. I've no idea what triggered it!

IMAP is also proving testing;

I've had to un-check the option to 'Use Precise Counters', as it was
causing problems when I was reading mail. After marking a message as
read, the counters would go all strange. It would show all as read, but
then would appear unread again. It would take a couple of entering and
leaving the folders in question and re-marking the messages as read
before it would update fully. This is using a 2MB up and down line.

I also often get empty lists and messages. On opening a folder, would
check the folder then close without displaying the messages within the
folder.

Also, when opening mail, it would open a different message to that of
the one selected to be opened. Although, I very often get a message that
states it's unable to open the message.

To add insult to injury, whilst writing this message, I have received 3
AV's all reading the same;

AV address = 00975BFC
Module = thebat.exe
Read address = 00B8

Is anyone else experiencing so many problems or can I provide any
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Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-09 Thread Christian Grams
CW AV's all reading the same;

CW AV address = 00975BFC
CW Module = thebat.exe
CW Read address = 00B8

I can comfirm this - but with another problem i suddenly have:
I cannot delete messages anymore!!! I always get the above error. 
Restarting TB! doesn´t change this. 
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Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-09 Thread Martin Webster
 
Chris Weaven [CW], wrote:

CW This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB!
CW often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU
CW usage.

...snip

CW IMAP is also proving testing;

Sorry to hear this... quite a different experience for me now. But I
have had similar problems and managed to solve them by clearing the
local cache. This resolved the following three issues:

CW After marking a message as read, the counters would go all
CW strange. It would show all as read, but then would appear unread
CW again. It would take a couple of entering and leaving the folders
CW in question and re-marking the messages as read before it would
CW update fully. This is using a 2MB up and down line.

CW I also often get empty lists and messages. On opening a folder, would
CW check the folder then close without displaying the messages within the
CW folder.

CW Also, when opening mail, it would open a different message to that of
CW the one selected to be opened. Although, I very often get a message that
CW states it's unable to open the message.

Unfortunately, the Maintenance Centre does not help. Indeed it
frequently makes things worse when using IMAP.


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Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Chris Weaven  everyone else

on 09-Nov-2004 at 18:22:42 (GMT +0100), you wrote:

 This current beta series isn't working out to well for me here. TB!
 often crashes for no apparent reason and also causes random high CPU
 usage.

I remember that on TBUDL there was a discussion about a similar problem in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - maybe it is related? Are you using
HTML?

 Also, TB! would randomly crash. Again, I was working away here and then
 I'd get the windows message asking if I wanted to send the error report
 to Microsoft. I've no idea what triggered it!

I usually turn off that stupid error reporting feature, its nothing but an
annoyance. :)

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cannot create message base

2004-11-09 Thread Gary
Hi all,

I just had an error that I have not seen in a few betas. Upon manual
filtering of an INBOX for an IMAP account, I received a cannot create
message base. I would assume this is a failure of rebuilding the local cache
after the moving of some email to its appropriate folder. I must log out
from the account and restart it. Just wanted to let 9Val know.


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Re: Unstable/unusable Beta Series :-(

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Chris,

  A reminder of what Chris Weaven typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 18:22:58 GMT +0100

CW Is anyone else experiencing so many problems or can I provide any
CW further info?

 None at all, 3026 is exceptionally stable here. I'm using it in
 On-The_Fly Pwd mode and it's running super.

The only AV I've seen was when I tried to restore from a backup with
3025 while changing over to encryption mode but none at all while the
program is running.

Program is using 18,688k and the CPU shows 00 at the time I'm writing
this.


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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2004-11-09 at 16:57:38 Mary Bull wrote:

 In my fundamentalist Christian upbringing I was taught that Sunday is
 the first day of the week. A scripture was quoted to justify having
 the communion service on Sunday:

I'm not a Christian (IANAC :), but Genesis 2 seems to say (after the
creation of, well, everything):

2  And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he
   rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3  And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in
   it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

How much more plain would you like it? :)

Anyway, it should be configurable of course, since this tends to
differ by country, AFAICS.


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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Dimitry!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 12:44 PM, you wrote:

DA How much more plain would you like it? :)

:)

DA Anyway, it should be configurable of course, since this tends to
DA differ by country, AFAICS.

Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's
going to do it and is it a Wish?

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Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello everyone,

as discussed on TBUDL (see subj.):
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036

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Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 20:58:51 GMT +0100

ASK Hello everyone,

ASK as discussed on TBUDL (see subj.):
ASK https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4036

 Not too sure what you mean by this?

 I received a legal email today in html format with a word.doc
 attachment. I just forwarded it to another account and it arrived in
 exactly the same format, html and doc attachment except as you say the
 forward headers.

 Redirect works even better, it's absolutely identical in every way to
 the original minus any forward headers.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 10:21:35 AM, Stuart Hemming wrote:

 Let's just post a wish on BT for it to be configurable and move on.


I guess the world could be a better place if everyone could decide
they were ready to move on at the same time.

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-09 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 1:56:44 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 And Sabbath (don't nail me on any Reformed sect in Judaism) starts
 with sunset Friday evening and ends with sunset on Saturday, thus
 Sunday would be the first working day of the week.

Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said let there be light

In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday, which is Lunes
and so presumable related to the moon as well, and ended with Domingo,
which I think has nothing to do with the sun. I do not recall the days
in French, never studied Latin, or any Germanic languages (other than
English) and gave up on Russian soon after getting the counting from 1
to 10. Non-European languages are beyond me as well.

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Dwight,

  A reminder of what Dwight A Corrin typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 21:58:22 GMT +0100

DAC In Spanish, I seem to recall it starts with Monday,

 I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25. As a Foster Parent you can't
 have a day off from caring for kids.

 All my kids go to school from Monday to Friday. All they say every day
 when they get home is Are we going camping at the weekend?

 So for me, that's when it is.


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Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-09 Thread Marcus Ohlström
If you open the attached message in Notepad, you will see it ends with
the word HOME on a separate line. If you open it in TB!, the last line
is truncated to HO. Same happens if you import it.

If I open it with Notepad, place the cursor at the last position, hit
enter and then save the file, I can open it or import it in to TB!
without loosing the trailing ME.

This actually was how the message did look like from the beginning, it
was me removing the trailing CR/LF before importing it. Now, before I
open up a bug report, is this a bug, or are there some RFC(s)
specifying a message *should* end with CR/LF?

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---BeginMessage---

Bästa Home-användare

Home vill börja med att be om ursäkt för de eventuella olägenheter som kan ha 
orsakats er under de senaste dagarna. I tisdags kväll hade vi på Home ett 
haveri på lagringsdiskarna på servern som hanterar e-mailadresserna som börjar 
på bokstäverna H-M.

Servern har två lagringsdiskar som är speglade, det vill säga innehåller samma 
information. Det osannolika inträffade och båda diskarna gick sönder. Därmed 
blev all hämtning av mail omöjlig för många användare.

En ny server och två nya diskar har nu ersatt den gamla utrustningen så nu går 
det att skicka och läsa mail igen. Mail som har skickats till era mailboxar 
mellan kraschen och den nya utrustningen placerades i kö. Dessa har precis 
levererats till era mailboxar.

Gamla mail som ni har haft i era mailboxar påverkas också av haveriet. Just nu 
pågår reparationer av de gamla diskarna för att återskapa era gamla mail. 
Eftersom båda diskarna har gått sönder kan vi inte garantera att samtliga mail 
kan återställas, även om det är vår förhoppning. 

Enligt den lösning vi nu arbetar på kommer återskapade mail inte att 
automatiskt hamna i era mailboxar, ni kommer ni att få hämta upp dessa själva. 
Mer information om hur och när ni kommer åt era gamla mail återkommer vi om på 
homes hemsida.

För mer information ber vi er gå in på www.home.se som vi uppdaterar löpande. 

Med vänliga hälsningar

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-09 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 22:21, Tony Boom wrote:

  I work from Saturday to Friday, 24/7/365.25.

How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-)

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-09 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Dwight!

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 10:00:27 PM you wrote:

 Sunday, perhaps is the day where God said let there be light

Now, I - the avowed atheist - do have only an AV here but a quick look
tells me that it is the third sentence of Genesis, Let there be
light. And it is Genesis 2/2 in which it says ... and he rested on
the seventh day.

For whatever reason, that 7th day was honoured by the chosen ones, the
people God tested throughout the whole Old Testament, as Sabbath. The
rest of the history of the Resting Day I recounted last time, I won't
do it again.

As so many other folks already wrote (not with this wording, granted):
Nothing to see here, move on, everything's alright.

For the sake of cultural relativism, let RITLabs make TB as flexible
as possible, Jews and traditionalists may want to start their week on
the last day of the week-end, others may choose Saturday, I do like
the ISO-norm, if only to make business easy. And I have no idea on
what day Chinese, Japanese, Aborigines or Heterocephalus glaber do
start their (working) week.

It's totally arbitrary!




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Re: Does imported messages sometimes loose the last characters?

2004-11-09 Thread Marcus Ohlström

On Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 22:32, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

 If you open the attached message in Notepad, you will see it ends
 with the word HOME on a separate line.

It did, until I saved the message in my outbox :-/

Now trying again. Unpack attached message and try the step outlined in
my previous email.

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Re: Calendars

2004-11-09 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  09 November 2004 at 22:35:20 GMT +0100

MO How do you know you do not work from Wednesday to Tuesday? :-)

 Because that's the shift my Wife works :)


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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:45:45 +0100, Dierk Haasis wrote:

 Since Christian Sabbath has - purely to distinguish oneself from Jews
 - shifted from Saturday to Sunday. As I wrote (and was obviously
 misunderstood) the last day of the week is the resting day!

Dierk, I think this discussion tends to go OT. Therefore, I am trying
not to fan the flames, so to speak. But, FWIW, I think that your
analysis is a bit simplistic. Logically, there is no reason why the
week must end with a resting day rather than begin with a resting day.
Moreover, AFAIK, most historians do not think that early Christians
moved their sabbath from Saturday to Sunday only to distinguish
themselves from Jews. That was one reason, no doubt. But another
reason, and perhaps a more important reason, was to compete with
popular Roman religions, most notably Mithraism, whose primary day of
worship was the first day of the week (Sunday) rather than the last
day of the week (Saturday). This became important circa 50AD when
James the Less took the ruling decision to accept gentiles into the
early Christian Community at the Council of Jerusalem (as reported in
chapter 15 of Acts).

Rather than pursue this debate here, let me just recommend a book on
this and many related topics. (Mary, you might also find this book
interesting.) You can read it online or download it for printing at
http://www.israel.amps.org/FFF/

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Avi Yashar
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mary Bull wrote:

 Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So, who's
 going to do it and is it a Wish?

The spelling is a mistake. The numbering seems to be a limitation (and
an annoyance). But as spelling and many of the various GUI goofs are
somewhat akin to the whole documentation issue, then I guess you could
say that all of this falls somewhere in the realm of unfullfilled
dreams. :-)

Mary, you understand the problem, and you also know your way around BT
better than most of us. I haven't a clue where to file wishes.
(Usually I just sprinkle a little fairy dust and think happy
thoughts.) So I am content to let you manage the report if you will be
kind enough to do so.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Avi!

On Tuesday, November 09, 2004, 4:23 PM, you wrote:

MB Well, as Stuart Hemming said, it's time to put it on BT. So,
MB who's going to do it and is it a Wish?

AY The spelling is a mistake. ...

The spelling has been corrected in v. 3.0.2.6 .

So the programmers are reading us.

AY The numbering seems to be a limitation (and an annoyance). ...

To some it is. And others potentially may find it so.

AY ... So I am content to let you manage the report if you will be
AY kind enough to do so.

In that case, I think I shall wait and see what the next beta brings,
as the spelling was corrected in this one.

It is not a big concern to me--will not affect my life at all to have
the numbering begin 1 Monday. But I do think the option to renumber
the days should be there for those who want it.

It may happen even without a formal wish being written up at BT.

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How to add KAV anti-virus plugin

2004-11-09 Thread Bobi Jam
Hello tbbeta,

There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the
anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV
anti-virus plugin now.

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Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin

2004-11-09 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Bobi,

Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 23:37 you wrote at 
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the
 anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV
 anti-virus plugin now.

Go back to a older version (e.g. 2.10.03 Final) add the PlugIn and go
to your current version again. HTH?


Nor Ritlas neither Kaspersky shows the will to support the PlugIn
longer. IMHO: Very stupid - and Kaspersky will maybe lose me as user.

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Re[2]: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin

2004-11-09 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Wednesday, November 10, 2004, Boris Anders wrote:

 There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the
 anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV
 anti-virus plugin now.

 Go back to a older version (e.g. 2.10.03 Final) add the PlugIn and go
 to your current version again. HTH?

 Nor Ritlas neither Kaspersky shows the will to support the PlugIn
 longer. IMHO: Very stupid - and Kaspersky will maybe lose me as user.

there were problems on KAV part, which Kapersky didn't tried to solve,
so Ritlabs removed internal support for COM interface.

And Kapsersky removed COM interface in version 5.x and added POP3
proxy instead.

Ritlabs released BAV plugin for Kaspersky, but I didn't tested it, I
hate Kaspersky, version 4 was worst antivirus I have ever used.

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Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin

2004-11-09 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Bobi Jam wrotes on 10/11/2004 at 09:37:51 +1100 
subject How to add KAV anti-virus plugin :

 Hello tbbeta,

 There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the
 anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV
 anti-virus plugin now.

Please read the thread beginning with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Read also the bugtracker:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3351

As a work around to add COM-Plugin follow this hint given in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Add or replace the lines of bottom in the file avconfig.ini (is in the thebat
 mail path) and no need anymore the .bav:
 
 [Checkers]
 Count=1
 Checker #1=TAVP_Checker.

The BAV-Plugin from Ritlabs is just some joke, as it will only drive the
com-Plugin. Without a correctly registered COM-Plugin the BAV plugin does
not work.

You can download the latest version of the COM-Plugin 4.0.1.19 from
www.thebatworld.de or directly from
http://www.oesterlin.de.vu/div/kav-com-plugin-4_0_1_19.rar

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Re: How to add KAV anti-virus plugin

2004-11-09 Thread rmorris
Hello Bobi,

Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 4:37:51 PM, you wrote:
BJ Hello tbbeta,
BJ There used to have a add KAV com-based plugin push-down option in the
BJ anti-virus add button, but now it's not there any longer, how can I add KAV
BJ anti-virus plugin now.
After upgrading to kav 5 personal pro a lot of options were lost from
4.5. I sent kav a e-mail (no response) and posted on forum about loss of virus
checking in The Bat. IMO kav personal pro 5.0 is a step backwards from
4.5 and I am  looking for a new customizable  antivirus program.
AVG,Avast and Nod 32 need not apply.


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Re: Wish: HTML inline forwarding

2004-11-09 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Tony,

Tuesday, November 9, 2004, 9:14:44 PM, you wrote:

  Redirect works even better, it's absolutely identical in every way to
  the original minus any forward headers.

But no matter which you choose, forward or redirect, the original HTML
message will *always* be an attachment, and not inline. When you
forward a text message, you have the message in the editor (inline);
when you forward HTML, you have an attachment.

That *may* be OK for forwarding (but there should be an option to
choose attach or inline, really), but it definitely is not for
redirecting. When I redirect a message I want it to appear exactly as
it was, and not as a clumsy .eml or .msg attachment to a plain text
mail.

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Re: Numbering Our Days [was Re: 3.0.2.5 is awesome]]

2004-11-09 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Tuesday, November 9, 2004 at 17:24 (which was Tuesday, November 9,
2004 at 16:24 where I am) Avi Yashar wrote:

 I do *not* think that Ritlabs should follow the ISO standard on this
 point. I personally think that the ISO standard here is entirely
 philistine and likely to offend the sensibilities of many - both
 religious and non-religious.

Regardless of which day you list first, there might be at least one
person who will be offended. On my Palm organizer, I use an alternat
calendar application called DateBk5 (found on
http://www.pimlicosoftware.com in case someone is interested) that,
unlike the default built-in calendar, has the ability to specify any
weekday as the first day of the week.

Interface and programmingwise I think we would be adding unnecessary
complexity to the preferences sheet in question if Ritlabs would have
to shift the weekdays depending on the cultural or religious
background of the user, but others may differ.

I think that at least two wishes are in order: 1) to have an option
specifying the first day of the week and 2) that only abbreviations be
used to reference the days of the week and not numbers. I have the
feeling that much more than the order of presentation, the fact that
they are so explicitly numbered now is part of the reason why this
thread is getting so many messages.

On another note, I find it funny that while several people are using
religious arguments why Ritlabs should not enforce the use of ISO
calendar standards upon us, I have so far not seen any requests to
have TB! support other calendar systems such as the Jewish or Muslim
calendars that obviously differ from the generally used Gregorian one.

In case Ritlabs is interested, there is a great book called
'Calendrical calculations' that shows conversion methods between some
30 calendars including the aforementioned Jewish, Muslim and Gregorian
calendars and includes also Bahai, Maya, Koptic, Julian etc. The
related website is http://www.calendarists.com/.

As a matter of history, months and weeks (ordering days in groups of
around 29 and exactly 7 days) pre-date muslim, christian and jewish
beliefs alike. In most germanic languages and even in English
(anglo-saxon), the names of the days are derived from nature and
scandinavian gods. Other languages may have the same, but I'm not
familiar enough with them to comment. One thing though: although in
recent history Russia has been under communist atheist rule for quite
some time, I don't believe the communists ever touched their word for
Sunday: Voskresenie (my Russian-English transcription may be off, I'm
Dutch) which literally means: resurrection day, refering to the day
that Christ resurrected from the grave.

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