Re: [OT] Re: It worries me...
At 19:11 [GMT+0200] on Wednesday June 29 (actual time - 1:11am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Clearly the code has exceeded the developers' ability to manage it. Are you a programmer? I'm not an international-level cricketer or footballer or tennis player, but that doesn't stop me passing informed comment on them. -- cheers, mic A good marriage is like a casserole: only those involved actually know what goes into it. Current beta is 3.5.33 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [OT] Re: It worries me...
At 16:38 [GMT+0200] on Thursday June 30 (actual time - 10:38pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Are you a programmer? I'm not an international-level cricketer or footballer or tennis player, but that doesn't stop me passing informed comment on them. Or that what you think informed is. Sure, but my boss clearly agrees, as he keeps employing me to write my informed comments, and people continue to read my stuff. Works for me. If something isn't working properly in your car, do you just ignore it because you're not a qualified mechanic? -- cheers, mic The hearts of fools are in their mouths, but the mouths of the wise are in their hearts. - Jewish Proverb Current beta is 3.5.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.18
At 19:09 [GMT-0700] on Thursday May 26 (actual time - 10:09am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: On Thursday, May 26, 2005 @ 12:35:19 PM [-0700], Maxim Masiutin wrote: [+] SmartSpace reading - using just the Space bar for reading new messages and marking them as read. See options in the Options|Preferences dialogue at the Messages page. Wow...good ol' TB. Another feature that I didn't know about but really needed it! Man, I've been waiting for this FOREVER!! Good work people. (Yes, I bitched about not having it, but I'm evening it up now :-) Question: I need to move 'Reply quoting selected text from F4, but I can't find it in the customiser. (Yes, I am quite probably an idiot.) Any suggestions? Ta. -- cheers, mic Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it. George Halas (1895 - 1983) Pro football coach Current beta is 3.5.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.18
At 01:28 [GMT+1200] on Saturday May 28 (actual time - 9:28pm on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Hi Mic MC Question: I need to move 'Reply quoting selected text from F4, but I can't MC find it in the customiser. (Yes, I am quite probably an idiot.) Any MC suggestions? Ta. Select Main Menu in the Select Container drop-down and expand the Specials branch of the Current Items tree. Also, select Message List Pop-up Menu in the Select Container drop-down and expand the Specials branch of the Current Items tree. Thanks muchly. Now for *my* dumb question: I don't - AFAIK - have F4 assigned to anything except Reply Quoting Selected Text, but F4 actually replies using my normal reply template, quoting all text. What am I missing? My guess is that it's the 'AFAIK' bit. -- cheers, mic It takes the human eyes an hour to adapt completely to seeing in the dark. Once adapted, however, the eyes are about 100,000 times more sensitive to light than they are in bright sunlight. Current beta is 3.5.0.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.0.14
At 20:24 [GMT+0100] on Tuesday May 24 (actual time - 3:24am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Could you please send a screenshot of the network errors? Pleasure. Nice wallpaper, Tony :-) -- cheers, mic Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language. Ludwig Wittgenstein Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5.0.14
At 19:15 [GMT+0100] on Tuesday May 24 (actual time - 2:15am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Hello Cees, Tuesday, May 24, 2005, 7:06:36 PM, you wrote: the bad thing is, I tried to install the previous version over this one but it still says I'm running that dot.14 version. With the same bad beahviour. Me not happy. :banshee: I installed 3.5 over this 3.5.0.14 but continued to have the same error. Plus there were two Bat entries in ADD/REMOVE programs. I uninstalled both (keeping the data) then reinstalled 3.5 which seems to be working OK. It's got to the stage now where I image my C drive before installing a new version, so I can revert to the old image if there are too many problems. -- cheers, mic The most memorable moments in life can be enjoyed by doing nothing. Sheila Edenfield Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Can any German please help with very short translation?
At 23:26 [GMT+0200] on Friday May 20 (actual time - 5:26am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: A couple of days ago I received a nice little book as a birthday present that deals with the pitfalls of the german language... (for the germans: Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod, highly recommended) and everytime I read in it, I wonder how anyone in the world can manage a language that sometimes seems so complicated even to me as a native speaker... :-) Unlike the straightforwardness of english, eh? :-) -- cheers, mic Many people will walk in and out of your life, but only true friends will leave footprints in your heart. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is this?
At 16:49 [GMT+0100] on Monday May 16 (actual time - 11:49pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: A. So far I haven't run into that bug yet. grin Clive What's worse is that sometimes the scroll bars appear... and sometimes Clive they don't. Yes, it's VERY annoying, I agree. Works against those who post properly, and FOR top-posters. Better get one of the moderators to have a word to them :-) -- cheers, mic In an Optometrist's window:Eyes examined while you wait. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
At 22:16 [GMT+0200] on Saturday May 14 (actual time - 4:16am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MAU Hello Mic, Can't get the space bar to work for 'next unread', but I'll try some other stuff in the morning. MAU ,- [ On April 19th I wrote in TBBeta: ] MAU | It looks like it won't accept some single character shortcuts like MAU | Space and Enter, which are my favourite ones BTW to mark a message MAU | as Read and Move to next unread. What I did was to assign something MAU | like Alt+8 and Alt+9 and then exit TB. I opened tbuser.def with a text MAU | editor and changed the string 'Alt+8' to 'Space' and 'Alt+9' to 'Enter' MAU | and after restarting TB both are working just fine. MAU `- Brilliant. Best night's work I ever did in my sleep :-) -- cheers, mic Drinking beer is easy. Trashing your hotel room is easy. But being a Christian, that's a tough call. That's rebellion. Alice Cooper Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: First Impressions
At 05:54 [GMT+0300] on Monday May 16 (actual time - 10:54am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Avi I let Google (or my own domain Webmail) handle the central storage headache Avi for me. Right now I am sitting in the airport, waiting for a flight and Avi replying to your letter. I am not worried about losing any mail. I don't Avi need to connect to my homemade IMAP server. I don't have to leave a Avi homemade IMAP server in place and worry about blackouts or poor Avi connections. I just connect to my Gmail account and download the latest Avi mail. I really don't understand the enormous faith people place in GMail/Google. A free service under someone else's care. No thanks. -- cheers, mic Never put off until tomorrow what you could avoid indefinitely. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
At 21:12 [GMT-0500] on Friday May 13 (actual time - 10:12am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] MC What if I just want to customise my keys in the main message area - I used to MC hit space to move to the next unread message Stuart Select Container Message List Popup Menu, Select Move to Next Unread, Stuart Click below the list of shortcuts where it says None and type your Stuart shortcut. YMMV when using a one key shortcut. Interesting - thanks for that, I've sorted out the way it works now, which is great. I'm now using 'r' to reply. Excellent. Can't get the space bar to work for 'next unread', but I'll try some other stuff in the morning. MC and ALT-R to reply just with the MC selected text quoted. Where do I find that? Stuart Under Available Items/Msg Ctrl you will find 2 Replies. I believe the Stuart second one is actually Reply Using Selected text. You need to actually Stuart add it to a container, either a new one or an existing one then add Stuart the shortcut as described above. Later you can come back in and remove Stuart it from the container, without losing the shortcut. Very cool. I've cheated, as neither of the 'reply' seemed to work, so I used 'reply to all using quoted text' (or whatever it is), assigned the shortcut and it works fine. Sweet. MC Sorry for the really dumb questions, but it's been a LONG time since I set these MC up! Stuart No dumb question, just dumb answers. Hope this one isn't too dumb. No, just extremely helpful. Thanks to you and MAU, muchly. -- cheers, mic Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even supposing knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be ignorant than would take even a little trouble to acquire it. Samuel Johnson, quoted in Boswell's Life of Johnson Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
At 16:27 [GMT+0100] on Saturday May 14 (actual time - 11:27pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Tony --On 14 May 2005 23:10 +0800 Mic Cullen Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting - thanks for that, I've sorted out the way it works now, which is great. Tony Wish I had! I only meant the generic method of the shortcuts, not any specifics, as you shall see... Tony Just spent 30 minutes on Mulberry filter tutorial, thought I'd Tony got it to work and you go and CC to tbbeta instead of the To: field. Ah, well, I didn't mean to! It's the reply to all using quoted text that got me there, I guess. But I've obviously seen it before, as it was filtered correctly into the tbbeta folder. (Not that the NFS always works, but it did this time.) Tony Now I've got to add that to my filters... If I can find out how It's a joy :-) -- cheers, mic Humans are the only animals that have children on purpose with the exception of guppies, who like to eat theirs. P. J. O'Rourke Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5 - now lost preferences?
G'day Battists. Just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.0.2.10 and I've lost all my key customisations. Any idea on how to get them back? TIA. -- cheers, mic Success only breeds a new goal. Bette Davis Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
At 02:58 [GMT+0200] on Saturday May 14 (actual time - 8:58am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Just upgraded to 3.5 from 3.0.2.10 and I've lost all my key customisations. Any idea on how to get them back? MAU You can't get them back. You will have to redefine them with the new MAU Customiser (View/Toolbars/Customise). I was afraid of that. Very very annoying. Thanks for the quick response. -- cheers, mic America is a country that doesn't know where it is going but is determined to set a speed record getting there. Laurence J. Peter Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 - now lost preferences?
At 03:15 [GMT+0200] on Saturday May 14 (actual time - 9:15am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MAU You can't get them back. You will have to redefine them with the new MAU Customiser (View/Toolbars/Customise). I was afraid of that. Very very annoying. Thanks for the quick response. MAU Notice that if you want to Customise Message Editor, you will have to MAU open it and then go to View/Toolbars/Customise. What if I just want to customise my keys in the main message area - I used to hit space to move to the next unread message and ALT-R to reply just with the selected text quoted. Where do I find that? Sorry for the really dumb questions, but it's been a LONG time since I set these up! -- cheers, mic Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: total disappointment
At 17:24 [GMT+0200] on Friday May 6 (actual time - 11:24pm on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Maybe RIT guys eat too many prunes ;-) lol lol lol MAU :-) MAU I should have said 'virtual' prunes It's part of the new security system: On-the-fly encraption. -- cheers, mic Success is dependent upon the glands--sweat glands. Zig Ziglar Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deleting threaded messages
At 07:26 [GMT-0500] on Wednesday March 30 (actual time - 8:26pm on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Steven I'm using v3.0.9.10 Return and I was just noticing that Steven it is still a major PITA to delete a bunch of old threads Steven from a folder with a threaded view. I've got a virtual folder that shows me read, not flagged, not parked messages from most of my folders. (There are a few that I have excluded.) Makes it VERY easy to delete messages. -- cheers, mic During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. Al Gore, March 9, 1999 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: sounds
At 19:11 [GMT+0100] on Thursday March 24 (actual time - 2:11am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Cees maybe I've missed somethign in the bast but how do I attach a sound to Cees messages I receive by a specific person? The way I've done it is to create a filter for that person then add the action play a sound to that filter. (In addition to putting it in the correct folder, etc.) There's probably a better way. -- cheers, mic He who is caught in a lie is not believed when he tells the truth. Spanish Proverb Current beta is 3.0.9.9 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.8 Return (pre-beta) is now available
At 17:10 [GMT+0800] on Tuesday March 22 (actual time - 5:10pm on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: SH Why in the name of all that's holy haven't you fixed OTFE? The last SH rather feeble excuse was that Maxim wasn't around. Where is he? The SH moon? SH are you going to fix this or not? David aaah it must be a pleasure to work on software when you get such David encouraging feedback from users. Well, a) Ritlabs have something of a history in the area, and b) this has been asked about a LOT. It's hardly an unreasonable post. -- cheers, mic I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on disk somewhere. Unknown Current beta is 3.0.9.8 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
At 16:00 [GMT+] on Wednesday March 16 (actual time - 12:00am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC If there's a better job around than being a sports journalist, I don't know what MC it is Great job if you get paid to report on F1, rallying or other interesting motor sports... God damn boring as hell if you have to report on womens hockey or worse still football (Soccer to all you foreigners) all the time. True enough. I'm mostly covering Australian Rules football, cricket (state international) and the sham that they call basketball down here. I'd love to cover the V8 Supercars, but I'm stuck over in Western Australia, and am thus just too far away. I'd love it if TB let me setup my emails before the game (complete with attachments) to be sent as soon as I've finished the document, (ie on the siren), but we've had that argument before and I don't want to start it again :-) -- cheers, mic Reality is the leading cause of stress amongst those in touch with it. Jane Wagner, (and Lily Tomlin) Current beta is 3.0.9.7 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.6: Wierd problem with VF
At 10:25 [GMT+0100] on Wednesday March 16 (actual time - 5:25pm on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Since VFs haven't changed for a long time, I think, that there is problems with handlers bindings, anyway thanks for report I /only/ use some 60 VFs. That may have something to do too. I only have TWO VFs. How can I pretend to be a power-user with only two? (They're really really really useful, but still, it's only TWO.) -- cheers, mic The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if they foul up there's no law against wacking them around a little. Joe Martin, Porterfield Current beta is 3.0.9.7 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
At 09:48 [GMT+] on Wednesday March 16 (actual time - 5:48pm on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC I'm a journalist, And you admit to it in public If there's a better job around than being a sports journalist, I don't know what it is :-) Very useful program for journalists, TheBat, with its excellent filtering, etc. -- cheers, mic To have doubted one's own first principles is the mark of a civilized man. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. Current beta is 3.0.9.7 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.6 Customise toolbar window
At 22:30 [GMT+0100] on Tuesday March 15 (actual time - 5:30am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: (Are you sure Customise is British English? I've not found It's correct. customise in the Hazon English Dictionary, but it reports only customize) I'd beware of that dictionary then, frankly. -- cheers, mic A superstition is a premature explanation that overstays its time. George Iles Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
At 20:02 [GMT+0100] on Tuesday March 15 (actual time - 3:02am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I've done a bit of searching and found this about capitalisation rules: http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/c/capitalization.html The one that applies to this case says: Family relationship names when they precede a name or are used in place of person's name, especially in direct address. So, the way I understand it you should write Hi Wife! but not my Wife as you wrote and which caught my attention. I'm a journalist, so you may want to ignore this response :-) , but that's how I'd do it too. My general rule is don't capitalise unless you are absolutely certain it needs it, and then think about it again anyway, just to be sure. Excess captalisation drives me nuts :-) -- cheers, mic The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. Alvin Toffler Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PocoTB
At 01:26 [GMT+0100] on Wednesday March 16 (actual time - 8:26am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I'm a journalist, so you may want to ignore this response :-) I would ignore it if it was political information I'm a sports journalist, so I'm not going there anyway :-) -- cheers, mic Girls are like phones, we like to be held tight and talked to but if you push the wrong button you'll be disconnected! Current beta is 3.0.9.6 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on send
At 20:28 [GMT+0300] on Tuesday March 8 (actual time - 1:28am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: SC I have started getting the following error message on trying to send SC some messages: SC Server reports error. The response is: Data ending with CRLF.CRLF SC Any ideas. These messages are nothing out of the ordinary. You must increase timeout to your SMTP server (Account - Properties - Transport - Server timeout) What's a good value? (120? 180? any probs for going too far?) -- cheers, mic If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things. Rene Descartes Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reverting back to 3.0.2.10 till next (pre-)beta
At 18:18 [GMT+0100] on Tuesday March 8 (actual time - 1:18am on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I think I have raised enough issues and bugs (some more important than others) for the moment, but I now need to go back to normal production work and v3.0.9.4 is still quite far from being usable. So, I will revert now to v3.0.2.10. I did the same for a coupe of days, but had to quit, yeah. -- cheers, mic To profit from good advice requires more wisdom than to give it. Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error on send
At 11:49 [GMT+0100] on Wednesday March 9 (actual time - 6:49pm on Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: SC I have started getting the following error message on trying to send SC some messages: SC Server reports error. The response is: Data ending with CRLF.CRLF SC Any ideas. These messages are nothing out of the ordinary. You must increase timeout to your SMTP server (Account - Properties - Transport - Server timeout) MC What's a good value? (120? 180? any probs for going too far?) I switched from 60 to 120 and that did the trick for me Thanks for that - I'll give it a shot. -- cheers, mic You must first have a lot of patience to learn to have patience. Stanislaw Lec Current beta is 3.0.9.3 Pre-beta | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Update on the Status of Software
At 19:20 [GMT+0200] on Thursday January 20 (actual time - 1:20am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I've a lot of questions, but maybe one short (because they can be answered with yes, no or maybe) one: Are you planing another BugFixing-Beta cycle after the current cycle? Let us finish the current cycle first. Man, this just arrived at 1542 this afternoon!!! Weird. -- cheers, mic Depressed since he could not find a job, 42-year-old Romolo Ribolla sat in his kitchen near Pisa, Italy, with a gun in his hand threatening to kill himself in 1981. His wife pleaded for him not to do it, and after about an hour he burst into tears and threw the gun to the floor. It went off and killed his wife. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Update on the Status of Software
At 10:10 [GMT+0100] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 5:10pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Let us finish the current cycle first. J Man, this just arrived at 1542 this afternoon!!! Weird. Yep, but it was a duplicate of a message that arrived here over a month ago. Ah, well, for some strange reason that no longer exists here on my system :-) -- cheers, mic Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 09:17 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 5:17pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: DC Actually what we had talked about was a check box to completely disable DC or enable that button, for those that want to turn the remote download DC feature completely off. Two buttons? One button would be enough. It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) A message comes through that you want the images for, click the button. Next message you don't want to see the images, don't click the button. I see no reason to have a another button that turns a button on and off, you may as well leave it as it is and double click the html attachment, it'll be less effort. I think you've misinterpreted this entirely. (Or I have, I guess :-) -- cheers, mic This message was cruelly tested on small, furry animals. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 11:46 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 7:46pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC It VERY clearly says 'check-box, not a button. As in something you set in MC preferences, so it will do what you want all the time. (If it matches the MC whitelist, or whatever. It's not like we haven't discussed this a little...) Still a silly idea, one button is enough, pointless having a checkbox to turn a button on and off. You don't have checkboxes to turn the toolbar icons on and off. I would however like a checkbox to turn the X on or off so that it minimises instead of completely closing down. Well it's exactly the same thing. A checkbox to set a preference in a semipermanent way. Or have it removable from the toolbar - I'm sure nobody cares EXACTLY how it's implemented, and the effect is identical. I'd like the 'X' checkbox as well, but, of course, that's not how windows ran HISTORICALLY, so it's a pretty dangerous option, being able to alter things like that nowadays. :-) -- cheers, mic Every little bit helps. Every little quit hurts. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 12:01 [GMT+] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 8:01pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC I'd like the 'X' checkbox as well, but, of course, that's not how windows ran MC HISTORICALLY, so it's a pretty dangerous option, being able to alter things like MC that nowadays. So html email is historically OK is it? When you snip the smilie it changes the context immensely, as I'm sure you are well aware. I think all this is quite a long way off at the moment so lets wait see what occurs eh? Yep. -- cheers, mic In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So, in old England, when customers became unruly, the bartender would yell at them to mind their own pints and quarts and settle down. It's where we get the phrase,Mind your P's and Q's. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 11:03 [GMT-0500] on Friday February 25 (actual time - 12:03am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: A 1600x1200 picture reduced to 320x240 for viewing in a newsletter will look worse than the same picture taken at 640x480. Why waste the resources for an inferior product? If you have even a vague clue as to what you are doing, that statement is utterly false. -- cheers, mic There are painters who transform the sun to a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence, transform a yellow spot into the sun. Pablo Picasso Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 19:07 [GMT+0100] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 2:07am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Probably not a good reason, but I owned Agent before I knew of MyGate and I got used to it. If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. Not a comment on this post specifically (ie Greg), more on the thread in general: Sorry, but that's rubbish. It's *nice*, but it's rubbish. Plenty of people have reasons for doing (or opposing) things that are completely wrong and/or dumb, no matter how much they believe in them. -- cheers, mic Homeless people may have no homes, or no food, but they always seem to have cigarettes. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 09:59 [GMT-0700] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 12:59am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: GF It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten up the GF usage of email, they must go along with the major players and the GF major players do have GOOD HTML support. So if your friend jumps off a bridge, you're going to do it too? Leif, if you think HTML email is at the same level of seriousness as killing yourself, something's gone wrong somewhere. GF If I had the same attitude that a few other showed up I would say GF something like I don't use IMAP, I don't care if it has bugs or GF not I rather have HTML rendered correctly but I find both things GF important. IMAP is part of e-mail. HTML isn't. Poor argument. Sorry, but it is. It might not be what people want, but that's life. It's not possible for me to say to my boss Sorry, but I'd really like us to change our system for dealing with email because I disapprove of our use of HTML email. It's not my fault he learned to do things with Outlook, but placing my head firmly in the sand won't change the way he does things, and I have to deal with it. Remember, it's being suggested as a normally off, user-choose option. I'd be happy with the ability to use HTML templates (for the one or two a week I *must* use)... -- cheers, mic Dealing with network executives is like being nibbled to death by ducks. Eric Sevareid Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 10:03 [GMT-0700] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 1:03am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: GF I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF if I can accomplish them with the software I'm using. Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are trying to curtail. The Enough of the white horse stuff, eh? I'm pretty sick of the doing it for your own good argument. completely selfish, me first attitude. Let the rest of the world suffer as long as I get what I want. Frankly, both sides of the argument see that attitude in the other. (And with good reason, at times.) Funny, eh? -- cheers, mic Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 06:30 [GMT-0500] on Sunday February 27 (actual time - 7:30pm on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: MC If you have even a vague clue as to what you are doing, that statement is MC utterly false. My monitor only shows 96 dpi, what is yours? The same, but my statement stands: if you have any idea as to what you're doing, the downsized output from a higher quality quality camera is going to be better than from a cheaper one. I don't think this is much of a stretch for people who've done both and who know what they're doing. Of course, as ever, the clueless can't be protected from themselves. Isn't that the basis of this whole thread - the socialists v the free marketers who realise that we have to deal with the world as it is, not as we'd like it to be? -- cheers, mic People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. Kierkegaard Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 00:26 [GMT+0100] on Monday February 28 (actual time - 7:26am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: If it is _your_ reason, it is a good reason. Not a comment on this post specifically (ie Greg), more on the thread in general: Sorry, but that's rubbish. It's *nice*, but it's rubbish. Plenty of people have reasons for doing (or opposing) things that are completely wrong and/or dumb, no matter how much they believe in them. If it is _your_ rubbish, it is good rubbish. I'm not entirely certain how to take that :-) -- cheers, mic Failure is an opinion. It is either an educational tool for starting over or an excuse breeding tool for saying it's over. Doug Firebaugh Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 14:10 [GMT+] on Friday February 25 (actual time - 10:10pm on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: TFC You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to another TFC email client if thebat download images from web Must I? Why not ask them! Your new to this list so you don't know the past 4 years history of this subject. Ah, the I've been here longer, I know better argument. Doesn't cut much ice with people who've been here a fair while, even if it isn't the magic four years. (BTW, email has changed a whole lot in that four years, and we now have to deal with a whole new email paradigm, like it or not.) TFC Well that will make me keep Thunderbird and forget to buy a license of TFC thebat for my wife and I So your using a non registered version then? Strange as it identifies here as being registered. By your own admission you must be using an illegal cracked copy. If you can't play the ball, play the man. Much easier. I'm all for the feature requested - the protecting people from themselves argument wears a bit thin when it's used to keep legitimate features away from users who are smart enough to use them wisely. -- cheers, mic A bore is someone who deprives you of solitude without providing you with company. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 10:48 [GMT-0500] on Friday February 25 (actual time - 11:48pm on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I'm curious. What do you say to the people who have a dead 2 year-old who strangled himself by pressing the up button on the window with his knee because his dad forgot to set the window lock? Truly bizarre. You cannot protect people from themselves all the time, no matter how much you deprive normal society of supposedly dangerous items. (Like power windows. Far out. I think cars themselves might kill a few more people than the power windows in them, and I'm not sure that The Bat has a history of causing too many fatalities. Please correct me if I'm wrong.) But as an analogy, that's one of the most ridiculous I've seen. Ever. -- cheers, mic It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations. Sir Winston Churchill, My Early Life, 1930 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: duh
At 21:07 [GMT+0100] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:07am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I totally disagree with all this html stuff. First off: e-mail is for information purposes only, hence, text will suffice. And if you only ever email yourself, and don't have to deal with others who don't necessarily do exactly what you want, I'm sure that's a valid world view. -- cheers, mic My parents only had one argument in forty-five years. It lasted forty-three years. Cathy Ladman Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 20:12 [GMT+] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:12am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: 3 months time, The Bat has the best html engine of any email client available... Still no working flawless IMAP ability but great comic book features. As soon as you say really stupid things like great comic book features, you are simply demonstrating that you have no idea what people other than yourself have to deal with on a daily basis. Just because it's an issue that you don't run up against doesn't mean it's not something that actually happens, and to a lot of users. I'm all in favour of having Ritlabs finally fix some of the long-term bugs, but that doesn't mean that the future can't be planned for or worked towards. -- cheers, mic I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends...that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai E. Stevenson Jr. Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 20:03 [GMT+] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 4:03am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most people on this list have in the past voiced *very* strong opinions about keeping The Bat html free... Where are they all now? They've all jumped ship and are now sitting firmly on the fence and it appears, I am the only one who is keeping true to my original convictions. The world has changed, and that's the way I like doing it because that's how I've always done it is utterly pointless when dealing with people who WON'T do it that way and over whom you have no control, but are forced to deal with. The world doesn't always work exactly how we want it to but that doesn't mean we have the option of not dealing with it. -- cheers, mic I'm a fuzzy-headed, warm-hearted liberal and I think fuzzy-headed, warm-hearted liberalism is an ideological stance that needs defending - if necessary, with a hob-nailed boot-kick to the bollocks of budding totalitarianism. Charles Stross Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: html whitelist wish
At 19:44 [GMT-0500] on Saturday February 26 (actual time - 8:44am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: GF And, I know this is a pain in the arse, your signature delimiter is GF non conformant with the list rules. They want it like '-- ' instead of GF '--'. Strange that none of the moderators have indicated this.. That's irrelevant, it's in the list rules. And surely they can take SOME time off, given how over-worked they are :-) All you need to do is add a space after the two dashes and it'll work as it should. -- rather than just --. -- cheers, mic Get a good idea and stay with it, and work it until it's done and done right. Walt Disney (1901-1966) Film and theme park entrepreneur Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The new, improved me!
At 12:00 [GMT+] on Thursday February 24 (actual time - 8:00pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: OK. Thanks to some help from Tony Broom, This mail /should/ be disclaimer free and PGP/MIME signed. You'll need to update your copy of my key (ldap://keyserver.pgp.com) to be able to validate the signature. You gun! -- cheers, mic Journalism largely consists of saying 'Lord Jones is Dead' to people who never knew that Lord Jones was alive. G. K. Chesterton Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I like the threading
At 18:44 [GMT+0100] on Wednesday February 23 (actual time - 1:44am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I like the threading of the alpha. I'm threading by references, but when a message is lacking In-Reply-To and References but has a subject like Re same subject then the message is added to the thread anyhow. I can't take the risk of installing the Alpha, at least not till next weekend. But what you say about threading sounds just great. ME TOO!! BYE!! -- cheers, mic Sometimes I get the feeling the whole world is against me, but deep down I know that's not true. Some smaller countries are neutral. Robert Orben Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Losing the ' [x]' when I reply
At 14:23 [GMT+] on Tuesday February 22 (actual time - 10:23pm on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I know that there is an option to turn off reply numbering (Re[x]: subject) but I can't find it. Pointers please. Account - Properties - Templates - Reply - 2nd checkbox from the bottom (Have focus on the account you want to modify) -- cheers, mic If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z, X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut. Albert Einstein (1879-1955) Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: the next beta ? when ?
At 11:43 [GMT+] on Monday February 21 (actual time - 7:43pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I've got it working!! Well, *I* haven't; my sysadmin guys opened up the relevant holes in the firewall. I haven't had chance to change things to try and post via gmail to this list, but a message to myself at work seemed to work and be disclaimer free! Now all you've got to do is get rid of all that PGP rubbish and you'll be right!! :-) -- cheers, mic Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another. H. L. Mencken Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Icons (was: Re[2]: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available)
At 23:26 [GMT+] on Monday February 21 (actual time - 7:26am on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: With all due respect to the boys at RITLABS but the time span between the last beta and this should have produced more than a virtually non useable version. To be fair, it's been clear all along that it's NOT a Beta, it's only an Alpha. (Says so in the Subject line.) That's why I haven't touched it yet... -- cheers, mic The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. When we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly. Thomas Paine Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Should we use acronyms in TBBETA or not?
At 10:50 [GMT-0500] on Saturday February 19 (actual time - 11:50pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: I am also in favor of the feature being on by default. I think you'd want new users to see as many semi-unique features as possible. With a program as complex as TB, you run a very real risk of overwhelming the newbie with 'irrelevant' information. Start simple and build from there, rather than start complex and allow the user to dumb it down to the point where they can use it. Those not wanting the feature will know about it through these lists with plenty of advance notice via beta cycles. Not if they're new users. It's not overly troubling to disable a feature, is it? If you're a new user, most definitely. Lastly, I wouldn't put it off until everyone's favorite pet bug is fixed. I'd begin when it makes sense within your development plans. I think there's a bit of a misguided fear here that sees new features and bug fixing as mutually exclusive. History has taught us to think so. -- cheers, mic The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now. Chinese Proverb Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: the next beta ? when ?
At 17:03 [GMT+0100] on Sunday February 13 (actual time - 12:03am on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: It only makes me hope and wonder when and if the wish for an ignore thread function will be implemented. ME TOO!! (Not for this topic, but it's an invaluable function.) -- cheers, mic Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a function. Unknown Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: the next beta ? when ?
At 10:04 [GMT-0500] on Sunday February 13 (actual time - 11:04pm on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: You mentioned QImage lists forbidding the discussion of certain topics? You didn't really explicitly state that they forbade the discussion of release dates but I assume this is so. It's a bit different in QImage - it's a PRINTING program, and people are bitching about it not supporting new RAW formats, which is a long way from its designed function. Guys ... I'm sorry, but as a veteran member, I can't sing along with that chorus and feel sympathy for Avi who has experienced and injustice here. Agreed. -- cheers, mic Never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. People will take you very much at your own reckoning. Anthony Trollope Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Update on the Status of Software)
At 01:18 [GMT+0100] on Sunday January 23 (actual time - 8:18am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: Peter Hello Max, Peter on Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:41:23 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: MM Is the sig delimiter now OK? MM X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.2.10) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Peter ?? He's unhappy with the way the upgrade to v3 was handled :-) -- cheers, mic The best things in life are free; and,they are also priceless. Jean Williams Brown, Associate Justice, Alabama Supreme Court Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quotation problems (Was: Re: Spam on the increase)
At 10:21 [GMT+0100] on Friday December 17 (actual time - 5:21pm on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Dierk Number of characters to determine '' as a quoting character?! Dierk Specify 5 and you won't get a properly coloured quote when the Dierk is the seventh character. Got it. Thanks for the help, people. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute, but set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spam on the increase
At 12:54 [GMT+0100] on Thursday December 16 (actual time - 7:54pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Peter For me the by far most effective is SpamPal Yeah, same here. I tried a couple of other solutions, but went back to SpamPal and am very happy. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) It is better to have loved and lost than never to have lost at all. Samuel Butler Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Quotation problems (Was: Re: Spam on the increase)
G'day Tbbeta, I'm having serious difficulties with my quoting, and it's driving me mad. I presume I've changed something, but I'm stuffed if I can figure out what it is. As you can see from my reply to the previous thread, (shown below), it shows the name of the person being quoted fine, but doesn't show the quotes as quotes (ie a different colour). Any ideas? I've hunted through the prefs, etc, but as we all know, it's not as intuitive as it could be :-) Ta. Peter For me the by far most effective is SpamPal Yeah, same here. I tried a couple of other solutions, but went back to SpamPal and am very happy. -- cheers, Mic (return address works) One should go invited to a friend in good fortune, and uninvited in misfortune. Swedish Proverb Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Quotation problems (Was: Re: Spam on the increase)
At 23:06 [GMT+] on Thursday December 16 (actual time - 7:06am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] MC Any ideas? I've hunted through the prefs, etc, but as we all know, it's not as MC intuitive as it could be Tony At first glance I'd say it was because you had a chevron before AND after his Tony name. Tony They can produce weird things which is why I used the word chevron above. I think that's just the generic quote thing from me cutting and pasting into the new message. As you can see, it's doing the same to your reply above. (Well, it is for me.) The MC quotes show up in orange, but the Tony quotes just show in the normal colour, whereas in your reply, my stuff showed in green, as it should have. If I didn't shave my head every morning, I'd tear my hair out... -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Worry doesn't help tomorrow's troubles, but it does ruin today's happiness. Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cosmetic Glitch: quote coloring
At 18:32 [GMT+0100] on Wednesday November 3 (actual time - 1:32am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Alexander but... Quote Level 3 Quote Level 2 Quote Level 1 Alexander Is it worth adding a bugreport? I reckon it is. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The greater part of our happiness or misery depends on our dispositions, and not on our circumstances. We carry the seeds of the one or the other about with us in our minds wherever we go. Martha Washington (1732 - 1802) U.S. First Lady Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spell Check
At 14:02 [GMT-0400] on Friday October 29 (actual time - 2:02am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] My quoted text is not spell checked! I tried using Danish on this message and only my text is spell checked! I also tried the different Message Formats and still no spell checking of quoted text! Tim Sorry let me clarify as I was mistaken. :) Tim Its when you forward that spell check checks the whole forwarded Tim message. It thought it was doing it when i replied also but its not. That is a complete pain, agreed, but it could be somewhat fixed with a 'finish' button for the spell-checker. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office. Robert Frost. Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3022 is awfull
At 19:37 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 28 (actual time - 1:37am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Then, don't volunteer to beta test. Period. :) Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does it. Alexander But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test program, Alexander aye? Depends. It's not like official releases are much different. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) I have found that when you are deeply troubled there are things you get from the silent devoted companionship of a dog that you can get from no other source. Doris Day Actress Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available
At 21:46 [GMT+0300] on Wednesday October 27 (actual time - 2:46am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] 9 The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available from 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Zeynel I guess these are new too: Zeynel [+] New 'Operation mode' dropdown in Preferences | Messages | Mail Zeynel ticker Focus to message is a HUGE improvement. Good work, people. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us. Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available
At 08:14 [GMT+0800] on Thursday October 28 (actual time - 8:14am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Zeynel [+] New 'Operation mode' dropdown in Preferences | Messages | Mail Zeynel ticker Mic Focus to message is a HUGE improvement. Good work, people. Bad form to reply to your own post, I know, but I just want to say again - this is brilliant. And I forgot to say thanks to Zeynel for pointing it out. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful. Dr. Albert Schweitzer (1875-1965) Medical missionary and Nobel Peace Prize Winner Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Multiple OR conditions in a filter
At 22:46 [GMT-0700] on Friday October 15 (actual time - 1:46pm on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Michael I have setup a filter with ten words that I never want to see in an Michael email. I setup a filter with OR statements between them. This mostly Michael works, but when two words appear in an email, the email seems to slip Michael through the filter. What is the correct way to setup a filter which Michael will detect 1 or more of these ten words? Contains any of? -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and the lightning bug. Mark Twain Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Useability Enhancement: Reply with selected quote
At 15:55 [GMT-0500] on Saturday October 16 (actual time - 4:55am on Sunday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Munango-Keewati Presently if you wish to quote only a portion of your reply in a Munango-Keewati message, you have to select it and press F4. Depends on where you're replying from. I've got it set so that I can (normally) highlight the text, hit alt-r and we're away. But that doesn't work in a window that's popped up as a result of double-clicking the mail-ticker. VERY annoying. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The covers of this book are too far apart. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
At 13:50 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 14 (actual time - 7:50pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Sadly my preferences don't make it to this beta cycle. MAU In Spain we say that it never rains to everyone's satisfaction In Australia, we say The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain. Whatever that means :-) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. Albert Einstein Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.1 Beta cycle finished
At 15:59 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 14 (actual time - 9:59pm on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Whatever that means :-) Dierk That you can speak proper English, as long as you actually pronounce Dierk it correctly. Just ask Professor Higgins ... Sorry guys, I knew what the phrase was intended to achieve, I was just making a joke about the strange sayings we have in English :-) But if there's any rain in Spain that's NOT wanted on the plain, we could do with it here... -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) On a church bulletin board: 'Anger is one letter away from danger.' Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: not an RC
At 23:30 [GMT+0200] on Monday October 11 (actual time - 5:30am on Tuesday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] - AV on startup Raymund Seems only to happen if you have used the RC7 so far. I updated from Raymund RC6 with no problems... (Well the usual problems with doubled entry Raymund substracted.) I upgraded from RC6, and it AVd (twice) on startup (at the splash screen) and never went any further. Happened several times, including after rebooting. So I'm back with RC6... -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Television enables you to be entertained in your home by people you wouldn't have in your home. David Frost Current beta is 3.0.1 RC/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.18 Post Release is now available
At 19:16 [GMT+0300] on Friday September 24 (actual time - 12:16am on Saturday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] 9Val Here is a short list of changes: Sorting office now opens to last filter edited. Nice change. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The secret of eternal youth is arrested development. Alice Roosevelt Longworth Current beta is 3.00.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: .17 AV when opening NFS configuration
At 23:31 [GMT+0200] on Wednesday September 22 (actual time - 5:31am on Thursday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] Zygmunt I have series of two identical alert messages when try to open Filtering / Zygmunt Sorting Office menu. Confirmed. Zygmunt NFS configuration panel then opens and I can continue work. Modified filters Zygmunt are remembered and work correctly. Addresses displayed in alert are always Zygmunt the same as above. Can anyone confirm this? This bit is different for me. It removed the share with tab from the NFS config box, and when I rolled it back to B16, the filter I had been editing still didn't work. On looking at the now restored share with tab, neither account that had previously been ticked was now selected. Upon re-selecting them, it's back to working fine. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) A hot dog feeds the hand that bites it. Current beta is 3.00.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: folder creation option, please get it back
At 07:22 [GMT-0500] on Monday September 13 (actual time - 8:22pm on Monday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] MS While I don't doubt the usefulness of the option to have the folder MS auto-created, I like being able to create the folder and specify it's MS properties while creating a filter. Can we please get this back? Mary I have not had occasion to need this yet, but I would definitely like Mary the option to create the new folder, while working on creating the Mary filter, to be there. I can see, down the road, where I will in the Mary future be needing this capability. It's a real pain to start doing Mary something and then have to stop, do the prerequisite elsewhere, then Mary come back and start over. If that was the case, I'd agree, but it isn't. You can tell it to auto-create, and it works fine. (I did it this morning for a new filter.) -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) I learned that it is the weak who are cruel, and that gentleness is to be expected only from the strong. Leo Rosten Current beta is 3.00.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Confusing problem with NFS
On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 7:29:03 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: [snips] MicCullen I've discovered a few new things with my battle to get MAPI and bayes* MicCullen subjects to be marked read. Stuart I copied you filters and made them the first two filters in my list. Stuart The only change I made was to point to my The Bat folder. Sent a Stuart message to the list with Bayes in the Subject line and it filtered to Stuart The Bat folder marked as read and flagged. Stuart Oh yes, one other change, I made the first one continue processing. Further update - following the stuffing around with the 'not filtering much at all' episode, I deleted the filter, and rebuilt it exactly the way it was (which Stuart found worked, so I'm sure I didn't make it badly in the first place). Upon doing that, it now works. Perfectly. I'm now not 100% confident that the filters in the NFS are always working top-down 100% of the time, I admit. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) I used to wake up at 4 A.M. and start sneezing, sometimes for five hours. I tried to find out what sort of allergy I had but finally came to the conclusion that it must be an allergy to consciousness. James Thurber Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Confusing problem with NFS
On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 8:55:45 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: [snips] MC I'm now not 100% confident that the filters in the NFS are always working MC top-down 100% of the time, I admit. Stuart Yes very perplexing. I also have problems with some filters that work Stuart just fine and when you copy them or recreate them for a slightly Stuart different purpose they fail to work. A copied filter was the first thing that cost me a heap of time with v3. It refused to work, but when I deleted it and built an identical one from scratch, no problem. I now find that every time I edit a filter, (ie adding a term to match, or the like), I have to close and reopen the program for that filter to work. Painful. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The only disability in life is a bad attitude. Scott Hamilton Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Confusing problem with NFS
On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 11:49:32 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: [snips] Upon doing that, it now works. Perfectly. Alexander What have you done?!? Alexander Because... now mine fails. *no* joke. Alexander Can this be explained with quantum physics? :-) You Europeans need to learn how to read :-) ...I deleted the filter, and rebuilt it exactly the way it was (which Stuart found worked, so I'm sure I didn't make it badly in the first place). Upon doing that, it now works. Perfectly... In effect, I did nothing. In actuality, I deleted the filter and rebuilt to identical, and it's working fine. Note that it's not the first time I'd rebuilt from scratch, and that the filter I deleted worked for Stuart. Quantum physics is as good an explanation as any... -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing. Sir Ralph Richardson Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Confusing problem with NFS
On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 7:29:03 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: [snips] MicCullen I've discovered a few new things with my battle to get MAPI and bayes* MicCullen subjects to be marked read. Stuart I copied you filters and made them the first two filters in my list. Stuart The only change I made was to point to my The Bat folder. Sent a Stuart message to the list with Bayes in the Subject line and it filtered to Stuart The Bat folder marked as read and flagged. Great, that's just what I wanted to hear. NOT :-))) Stuart Oh yes, one other change, I made the first one continue processing. Did you test it WITHOUT doing that? Thanks for giving it a shot, it's much appreciated. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) The greater part of our happiness or misery depends on our dispositions, and not on our circumstances. We carry the seeds of the one or the other about with us in our minds wherever we go. Martha Washington (1732 - 1802) U.S. First Lady Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta 3.0.0.8 - filtering disappeared
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 @ 3:28:57 PM, Johannes Posel wrote: [snips] As it says, the filtering just stopped working. Everything ended up in the inbox. Johannes Not confirmed (3.0.0.8)... OK, this re-appeared early this morning. (4am isn't the time to be sorting these things out, really.) I rolled back to B6. No joy. I rolled back (eventually) to the so-called 3.0. No joy. Eventually, I thought to look at the log, as I worked out that the only files being filtered were the files that fell under my 'other' grouping of sub-filters, and even then it was only some of them. Despite the following filter structure: Incoming Messages Spam Sport (various sub-filters) Personal (various sub-filters) Photography (various sub-filters) Other (various sub-filters) It showed that all of the messages ending up in the inbox were being 'filtered' by the 'other' filter, despite it being last in line. And because they didn't have matching criteria, they ended up in the inbox. Mostly. I unchecked the boxes for both my accounts in the Other top-line filter, shut it down, and upon reopening, it worked for everything bar the 'Other' filters. I rechecked the boxes and it's all back to working as per normal. (With B7. It breaks again with B8.) No, I don't have any idea why any of this did and didn't work. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) We don't know a millionth of one percent about anything. Thomas A. Edison Current beta is 3.00.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
