Re: Customized mass mailing TO: field
Hi Pit, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:52:17 +0100GMT (07/01/2002, 15:52 +0800GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP> You should have known the Power of macros :-) You know, while I am still amazed by the power within The Bat!, I am using the following macro for this very list: %TO=""%TO="""%OFromName on TBUDL"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" - I ignored your remark on my age in the German TB OT list, and there is really no need for you to repeat it here. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New message from Favourites & Memo in saved file
Hi, Thomas & Carsten. TF> For the AB entry I chose, there are no templates, so the account TF> templates are used. The New Message account template contains the BCC TF> macro. TF> If I create a new message using the new message icon, the BCC is TF> correctly filled in. If I create a new message using the favourites TF> drop-down list, the BCC macro is ignored. C> But there are problems with the _account_ template and not the AB C> templates... ;-) There are TWO manifestations of this bug: 1. If both the Account New message template _and_ the AB entry New message template contain BCC macros and a new message is created using the favourites drop-down list, the AB BCC macro is ignored. 2. If _only_ the Account New message template contains a BCC macro (the AB entry New message template is empty) and a new message is created using the favourites drop-down list, the Account BCC macro is ignored. Interestingly, if _only_ the AB entry New message template contains a BCC macro (the Account New message template does not contain a BCC macro) and a new message is created using the favourites drop-down list, the AB entry New message template BCC is used correctly. Thus, the Account New message BCC macro entry is setting the BCC macro value to null or empty when the favourites drop-down list is used. What's the best way to report something like this? Is our discussion here enough? regards, Andy regards, Andy [Using The Bat! 1.53t under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 on a "made from scratch" PIII-500 MHz/384 MB RAM] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
ON Sunday, January 06, 2002, 11:42:46 PM, you wrote: David> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- David> Hash: SHA1 David> Hello Costas, David> On 6 Jan 2002 at 21:30:56 +0200, Costas Papadopoulos [CP] wrote David> concerning 'Reply using a selected part of the message': David> ... CP>> Is there a way that I can select a part of a message and include CP>> only that part in composing a reply to the sender? David> Another addition that might become useful is when you have a mouse David> with a third or middle button. You can assign F4 to it, so then all David> you have to do is highlight the text and press the button. I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are telling the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. Therefore there is no need at all to press special buttons to get just a piece of the text. Just my 2 (Euro)cents. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> The good people sleep much better at night than the bad people. Of course, the bad people enjoy the waking hours much more. - Woody Allen Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: New message from Favourites & Memo in saved file
Hi Andrew, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:08:41 +0100GMT (07/01/2002, 16:08 +0800GMT), Andrew Aronoff wrote: AA> There are TWO manifestations of this bug: Yes. AA> What's the best way to report something like this? Is our discussion AA> here enough? No, they don't necessarily follow TBUDL. Use Help / Feedback / Bug Report. Manually insert TBDUL as the CC recipient. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Hello, When I save a message to file that contains no attachments, the saved message contains "Attachments: ". I'd like to eliminate this line from the saved message _only_ if there are no attachments. I'd like this line to appear with the list of attached files if such files are present. So, let's say message1 contains no attachments. The line "Attachments: " would _not_ appear when I save the message to a file. Let's say message2 contains an attached file, "file1.ext". The line "Attachments: file1.ext" would appear when this message is saved. How can this best be done? regards, Andy [Using The Bat! 1.53t under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 on a "made from scratch" PIII-500 MHz/384 MB RAM] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hello Gerard, On 7 Jan 2002 at 09:11:01 you wrote (at least in part): GdV> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are telling GdV> the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. Therefore GdV> there is no need at all to press special buttons to get just a piece of GdV> the text. No ... I can'T fully agree ... My first thought were similar, BUT: I read you mail, see something interesting, copy it and search further information, e.g. with Google. The selected information(s) was/were at the very end of your mail and meanwhile I scrolled up again to read the beginning. Now I want to reply ... and Gee ... only two words quoted in my answer .. *damn, there was still selected text* You see??? It'S to easy mistakes are happening :-( GdV> Just my 2 (Euro)cents. And mine too! Anybody want's Monopoly's money? Come to Europe, get your Euro :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Art is beautiful until it becomes real or the truth. (Jonathan Carroll) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
ON Monday, January 07, 2002, 9:26:30 AM, you wrote: Peter> Hello Gerard, Peter> On 7 Jan 2002 at 09:11:01 you wrote (at least in part): GdV>> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are telling GdV>> the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. Therefore GdV>> there is no need at all to press special buttons to get just a piece of GdV>> the text. Peter> No ... I can'T fully agree ... My first thought were similar, BUT: Peter> I read you mail, see something interesting, copy it and search further Peter> information, e.g. with Google. Peter> The selected information(s) was/were at the very end of your mail and Peter> meanwhile I scrolled up again to read the beginning. Peter> Now I want to reply ... and Gee ... only two words quoted in my answer Peter> .. *damn, there was still selected text* Peter> You see??? It'S to easy mistakes are happening :-( Isn't that a very unique situation. It can happen that there is selected text but not often. It works this way in Agent and I found it very intuitive. I think the Find Function is more confusing. You don't even have to mark text it just grabs the word that's closest. GdV>> Just my 2 (Euro)cents. Peter> And mine too! Peter> Anybody want's Monopoly's money? Come to Europe, get your Euro :-) OK, the paper money looks like monopoly money, but doesn't it give you a feeling of accomplishment and belonging. I rank it up there with the fall of the wall. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> Grossman's Law - Complex problems have simple, easy-to-understand, wrong answers. Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hello Gerard de Vries, On Monday, January 07 2002 at 12:11 AM PDT, you wrote: > I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are > telling the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. > Therefore there is no need at all to press special buttons to get just > a piece of the text. David's suggestion is one of convenience if you are a mouse User, because there isn't even a need to hit the Reply button... simply swipe the text you want quoted and without lifting a finger press the middle mouse button (as long as you have it programmed for F4) and bingo! I've been doing that for a long time and find it very convenient. :o) -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Courtenay, B.C. Canada=- Win 98SE | GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) | Becky v2.00.08 _ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hi Gerard, David>> Another addition that might become useful is when you have a mouse David>> with a third or middle button. You can assign F4 to it, so then all David>> you have to do is highlight the text and press the button. GdV> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are telling GdV> the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. Therefore GdV> there is no need at all to press special buttons to get just a piece of GdV> the text. Hmm, sounds logical but: many people seem to read mails (and Webpages) with their mouse pointers following/leading their eyes and marking the letters they fly over, you know what I mean? When they reply on a mail and still accidently have parts of the text marked... in your scenario -> chaos ;-) But maybe you are right (BTW I think F4 is better than Shift+Alt+something ) GdV> Just my 2 (Euro)cents. Just my 4 Pfennigs (but shops accept them only until end of February, so go shopping asap :-). -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/25) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hi Carsten, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:44:21 +0100GMT (07/01/2002, 16:44 +0800GMT), Carsten Thönges wrote: GdV>> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are GdV>> telling the software you just want the blocked area in the GdV>> reply. CT> Hmm, sounds logical but: many people seem to read mails (and CT> Webpages) with their mouse pointers following/leading their eyes CT> and marking the letters they fly over, you know what I mean? I don't know about your system, but marked text has a different colour over here. I cannot imagine reading "with the mouse" rather than just with my eyes. CT> When they reply on a mail and still accidently have parts of the text CT> marked... in your scenario -> chaos ;-) Unless they make one little click anywhere in the message, which voids all text markings. But then, I think your example was streching it a bit anyway. :-Þ I am with Gerard on this. And I have never seen or touched a Euro banknote or coin; but I could T/T you 0.02 ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerard, On 7 Jan 2002 at 09:11:01 +0100, Gerard de Vries [GDV] wrote concerning 'Reply using a selected part of the message': ... GdV> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are GdV> telling the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. GdV> Therefore there is no need at all to press special buttons to get GdV> just a piece of the text. I don't think I understand what you're saying here. This is how I normally reply to a message; first I highlight the text I want to reply to (with the mouse) and then I press my middle-mouse button. I don't know what's wrong with that, but I think a it's very quick way to just quote the relevant parts of a message. - -- Best regards, David ** Mispelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDlZylK9yf5+yp9NEQLk8ACgoVWAdm9uzan6ZbJsYc4AVnXb8h8An29M E98ZO9Vl1iMj1kWwLkO41bkz =xdOJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Andrew, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, at 09:23:04 [GMT +0100] (which was 1:53 PM where I live) you wrote: AA> So, let's say message1 contains no attachments. The line "Attachments: AA> " would _not_ appear when I save the message to a file. AA> Let's say message2 contains an attached file, "file1.ext". The line AA> "Attachments: file1.ext" would appear when this message is saved. AA> How can this best be done? The following was posted on TBTECH by Januk. I personally have not tried. Maybe you could incorporate this in the 'save message Template' in account->properties->templates. %IF:"%ATTACHMENTS"="%- ":"%- %- ":"%- %ATTACHMENTS" -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A day without sunshine is like, well, night. Replied on 7 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: OT: Browsers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello David, On 7 Jan 2002 at 00:25:05 +0100, David van Zuijlekom [DVZ] wrote concerning 'OT: Browsers': ... DvZ> but I can't get it to open a link when double clicking on it. After a restart it's working now, but instead of one window every time I click on a link it opens it twice. That even if I click once on the link. I remember it's been asked before from someone on this list but I can't seem to find it in my archives. Can someone please help me out here. - -- Best regards, David ** DOS Tip #63: add BUGS=OFF to CONFIG.SYS ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDlddFK9yf5+yp9NEQJUCQCgrU9dg9plb56+mVKCN0KGCy67KhIAoOHd 6+sW6N/bgytVxPy15AQ0pvBP =8OUT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
ON Monday, January 07, 2002, 10:18:14 AM, you wrote: David> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- David> Hash: SHA1 David> Hello Gerard, David> On 7 Jan 2002 at 09:11:01 +0100, Gerard de Vries [GDV] wrote David> concerning 'Reply using a selected part of the message': David> ... GdV>> I feel that if you mark a piece of text and press reply you are GdV>> telling the software you just want the blocked area in the reply. GdV>> Therefore there is no need at all to press special buttons to get GdV>> just a piece of the text. David> I don't think I understand what you're saying here. This is how I David> normally reply to a message; first I highlight the text I want to David> reply to (with the mouse) and then I press my middle-mouse button. I David> don't know what's wrong with that, but I think a it's very quick way David> to just quote the relevant parts of a message. David, There are no right's and wrongs here. It depends on the way you work. The point I was trying to make is that if you have text marked an press reply, it looks like you want to reply using only the marked text and I feel the software should be smart enough to to recognise that. Now you have to do the thinking and press a separate button, in your case the middle mouse button or shift-F4. I have been reading about people's frustration with software this weekend and agree that to little thought goes into make software do what it is made to do intuitively. You can't keep adding features and assigning keyboard short-cuts or even menu items to them and expect people to use them. On the other hand we all remember the paper clip from word and the statue that was erected for the person who discovered who to disable it. The most notable points made were: - The software should concentrate on its main function and "hide" all extra's. Compare this to a VCR. Main function is record and play not edit. - Extra functions should be off by default. When the user regonises he/she needs them they can be switch on and not be in the way all the time before they are needed. - Look what the user want to do and help him doing it. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> Eschew obfuscation. Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The faq and Opera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ottar, On 07 January 2002 at 06:35:28 +0100 (which was 05:35 where I live) Ottar Grimstad wrote to Marck D Pearlstone and made these points: > ... So if you can get rid of this top part that only is > confusing. There is no "top part". There is no code to produce it that way. It doesn't appear in Mozilla or in IE, only in Opera. Ergo, it is the lack of correct DOM support in Opera causing it to appear. I have two choices: 1) Ignore the problems experienced by the 3% of users who are using Opera as a primary browser. 2) Take notice of that 3% and re-write the entire site without using BrainStorm for maintenance and publishing. What would you do? I am actually going to do the latter but don't feel particularly happy about it. It will take time and I have very little of that right now :-(. Anyway. This topic is done to death. I think we should move on and get back to the primary purpose of the list. Anyone wanting to discuss this further can do so either off-list or on TBOT. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/25-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8OXNPOeQkq5KdzaARAv6rAJ9R169xIEQBwNgICftxIkKV8FrxPQCeOyiA kj8mKm11TvGcNSETfLsK2gY= =1rT1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gerard, On 7 Jan 2002 at 10:48:27 +0100, Gerard de Vries [GDV] wrote concerning 'Reply using a selected part of the message': ... GdV> The point I was trying to make is that if you have text marked an GdV> press reply, it looks like you want to reply using only the GdV> marked text and I feel the software should be smart enough to to GdV> recognise that. Thank you for your clear explanation. I really second this. TB! should really recognize when you want to reply only the marked text instead of the whole text when pressing the reply button. The same counts for the reply to all button. AFAIK this is a long standing wish, but maybe we should refresh the developers memory. - -- Best regards, David ** Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting. ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDl12VK9yf5+yp9NEQIxbQCfWS4vTpwCoPi6coGZ3TgiqXixkvUAoMTc IGd8UTtGVoc3s/sFsk4JxjEm =pXWb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Hi, Raj. Thanks for your help. Raj> The following was posted on TBTECH by Januk. Thanks to Januk, too. Raj> ...incorporate this in the [Account] 'save message Template'... That's where something similar to this went: %IF:"%ATTACHMENTS"="":"":"Attachments: %ATTACHMENTS" Thanks again! regards, Andy [Using The Bat! 1.53t under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 on a "made from scratch" PIII-500 MHz/384 MB RAM] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Andrew, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, at 12:28:52 [GMT +0100] (which was 4:58 PM where I live) you wrote: AA> Thanks again! Welcome. Tell me did you reply to my message ??? Cause its NOT threaded in the folder over here. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Performance Appraisal Terms And Their Real Meanings Good Communication Skills - Spends lots of time on phone Replied on 7 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Hello Raj, On 7 Jan 2002 at 12:46:46 you wrote (at least in part): R> Tell me did you reply to my message ??? Cause its NOT threaded in the folder R> over here. Andrew does in fact read the messages from the online message archive and takes the subject & relevant message texts and pastes them into a new created mail. He's subscribed in DIGEST mode only and this is his kind of 'real time mail reading' :-) Because neither DIGEST (which is received to late to answer in 'real time' as he does) nor online archive offer the message id's so he can't build up proper references in his mails. Therefore we all, threading by references, see his mails 'unthreaded' / 'beginning a new thread'. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) If man were immortal, do you realise what his meat bills would be? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "
Peter, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, at 12:53:24 [GMT +0100] (which was 5:23 PM where I live) you wrote: PP> Andrew does in fact read the messages from the online message archive PP> and takes the subject & relevant message texts and pastes them into a PP> new created mail. I guess the server which maintains the archives has improved. I recollect sometime back being told that there is a days delay in the archives being updated. Good show -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Everyday I beat my own previous record for number of consecutive days I've stayed alive." Replied on 7 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Threading like Mozilla (was Re: Conditional suppression of "Attachments: ")
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 7 Jan 2002 at 12:53:24 +0100, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote concerning 'Conditional suppression of "Attachments: "': ... PP> Therefore we all, threading by references, see his mails PP> 'unthreaded' / 'beginning a new thread'. The past two days I am trying out Mozilla, and I also took a look at the integrated mail client. I don't like it but I found out that the threading of messages worked better then in TB!. Even the messages without the necessary references headers did thread correctly. Now my question is; how does Mozilla accomplish this? Is it a combination of threading by references and by subject or something? It would be cool if TB! worked this way too. - -- Best regards, David ** 007 of Borg: "Dr. Borg." ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDmFDlK9yf5+yp9NEQIazgCfRKR3lPHN+txoqOEZcnCsg+odmD8AoKyJ VwDjo0vgy9gm4EE7XeStoMqw =jN/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filter using addressbook
Roelof, On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, at 12:40:22 [GMT +0100] (which was 5:10 PM where I live) you wrote: RO> When I check two Address Book Groups messages are only triggered by RO> Address Book entries that occur in both groups. Is there a way then to trigger a filter if the message is in either and NOT both. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Girls are like Internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken :) Replied on 7 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - bug report - new message template BCC macro ignored
Hi, TB! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.53t Serial Number 3283B3AA under Windows 2000 Pro SP2 I'd like to report a bug: Description: --- Under certain circumstances, the BCC macro is ignored if a new message is created with the Favourites drop-down list. Steps to reproduce the bug: -- 1. If both the Account New message template _and_ the AB entry New message template contain BCC macros and a new message is created using the Favourites drop-down list, the AB BCC macro is ignored. 2. If _only_ the Account New message template contains a BCC macro (the AB entry New message template is empty) and a new message is created using the Favourites drop-down list, the Account BCC macro is ignored. This bug has been confirmed by several other people. A TBUDL thread on this subject can be found here: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg32531.html regards, Andrew Aronoff -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Threading like Mozilla
Hello David, On 7 Jan 2002 at 13:22:46 you wrote (at least in part): DvZ> Now my question is; how does Mozilla accomplish this? Is it a DvZ> combination of threading by references and by subject or something? It DvZ> would be cool if TB! worked this way too. Either this or it simply sorts by subject. I don't know how this looks in Mozilla as I don't have one installed by myself right now nor did I ever used the MUA build in. But as Mozilla is GPL'ed: how about having a look into the source code to figure out this question? *ggg* ... OK, I was only joking :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) One never realizes the jewel they have, until they lose it -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filter using addressbook
Hello Raj, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:18:44 +0530GMT (7-1-02, 13:48 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO>> When I check two Address Book Groups messages are only triggered by RO>> Address Book entries that occur in both groups. R> Is there a way then to trigger a filter if the message is in either and NOT R> both. Only with a work around. Create three filters, two for the desired action (one filter for each group) and one filter with no action for entries that are in both groups. The latter filter should be first of these three in the sorting office and should not have checked the option Çontinue processing with other filters). That's the only way I see a possibility for something like this. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hello Gerard. At 3:11 AM on Monday, January 07, 2002 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Reply using a selected part of the message': Gerard> Just my 2 (Euro)cents. Yeah well how much could that be worth? :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/22/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Keyboard navigation
Hello Joe. At 9:16 PM on Sunday, January 06, 2002 you wrote the following in response to my comments on the posted subject 'Keyboard navigation': >> I've been following the philosophical discussion on >> common sense that you've been having with Thomas >> which emanated from my question -- very interesting. Joe> I've enjoyed it, too, but I think we're about to get the Joe> hook. We have & I moved my response over to TBOT @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/22/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Macros for all address book field
Hello, I'm new in this list and I use "the bat" for "mass mailing" and I want to import in the "quick template" with the macros ALL the field of the address book (city, address, code, sex, ecc..). If it is possible, where can I find the list of all the macros-associated with address book fields?? I have found the list of only few fields (emailaddress, toname, fromname, ecc..) but I need to import in the message other fields. thank you very much and sorry for my English Nemo
Re: Macros for all address book field
Hello Nemo666. At 11:22 AM on Monday, January 07, 2002 you wrote the following on the posted subject 'Macros for all address book field': Nemo666> [...] where can I find the list of all the Nemo666> macros-associated with address book fields?? Nemo666> [/...] Help Topics -> Index -> Macros -> Address Related Macros. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.54 Beta/22/W2K_SP2/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Macros for all address book field
Hello Nemo666, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:22:45 +0100GMT (7-1-02, 17:22 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: N> I use "the bat" for "mass mailing" and I want to import in the N> "quick template" with the macros ALL the field of the address book N> (city, address, code, sex, ecc..). If it is possible, where can I N> find the list of all the macros-associated with address book N> fields?? I have found the list of only few fields (emailaddress, N> toname, fromname, ecc..) but I need to import in the message other N> fields. AbnnnPPP insert a field from the address book. The "nnn" part determines the address that is used to retrieve information from the address book, the "PPP" part is the name of the address book field to be used. Possible values for the " nnn " part are: TO use the address entry for the TO addressee of the current message OFROM use the address entry for the FROM address of the original message OREPLY use the address entry for the REPLY-TO address of the original message OTO use the address entry for the TO addressee of the original message FROMuse the address entry for the FROM address of the current message REPLY use the address entry for the REPLY-TO address of the current message Possible values for the " PPP " part are: Namethe full name FirstName the first name LastNamethe last name MiddleName the middle name Handle the handle (alias) NamePrefix the name prefix (such as "Mr.", "Mrs.", "Dr." etc) NameSuffix the name suffix (such as ", Jr.", ", PhD", etc) Birthdaythe date of birth Email the primary e-mail address Addrthe home street address Citythe home city name State the home state/province name ZIP the home address ZIP/Postal code Country the home address country name Phone the home phone number Fax the home facsimile number Mobile the mobile phone number Pagethe personal homepage URL Company the company name Job the job title Deptthe department name Office the office number BusAddr the business street address BusCity the business address city name BusStatethe business address state/province name BusZIP the business address ZIP/Postal code BusCountry the business address Country name BusPhonethe business telephone number BusFax the business facsimile number BusPagerthe business pager number BusPage the business homepage URL Gender the person's gender Charset the default character set Memothe Memo contents of the address entry AbnnnPPP="text" insert a field from the address book as above. If there is no matching address book entry or the field requested from the address book is blank, insert text instead These are all AB fields you can use. Check the help on "Address related macros" BTW Why do you use HTML-encoding mail for a message that doesn't need it? Makes the message more than twice as long as necessary. A waste of bandwidth for you and everybody else on this list. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The faq and Opera
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > > ... So if you can get rid of this top part that only is > > confusing. > > There is no "top part". There is no code to produce it that way. It > doesn't appear in Mozilla or in IE, only in Opera. Ergo, it is the > lack of correct DOM support in Opera causing it to appear. I'm on linux at work and I'am using Netscape 4.76 version. When I look at FAQ pages, main page is displayed twice. I don't know, if is it the same problem, but it is very interesting :-) -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Macros for all address book field
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nemo666, On 07 January 2002 at 17:22:45 +0100 (which was 16:22 where I live) Nemo666 wrote to the bat forum and made these points: > Hello, I'm new in this list and I use "the bat" for "mass mailing" > and I want to import in the "quick template" with the macros ALL the > field of the address book (city, address, code, sex, ecc..). If it > is possible, where can I find the list of all the macros-associated > with address book fields?? I have found the list of only few fields > (emailaddress, toname, fromname, ecc..) but I need to import in the > message other fields. thank you very much and sorry for my English Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules and many of the members here do not appreciate it. Some even have filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/25-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8OdizOeQkq5KdzaARAjB5AKCVKZD1pAY2HmCG300vssSmeww77QCg4/C7 1ZCqd2NPs2inxqsu3f7KYq8= =zWz7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Colour group
Hello Costas! > I also use colour to highlight "parked" messages. I suppose this is a > leftover from Pegasus Mail, because that program didn't have the flag > that one sees with TB. Anyway, I normally have the parking flag way > out on the right (off the visible area on the screen) so, using a > colour to highlight these messages is useful to me. Don't forget to mention: filtering with colour-groups you can even change the character-sets of a folder's message-list (into Greek, for example ;-). -- Cheers, TB! 1.53t Annette WIN95 4.0 1212C -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Should I dump Outlook 2000?
I haven't yet moved over to TB from Outlook 2000 yet, so I am seeking opinions from others about whether or not I should do so. For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have noticed? What is the biggest downside you have found? Thanks, Jon -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Bat 2 - when?
Are all Bat upgrades incremental or are there any Quantum leaps in functionality to the Bat 2 I hear mentioned? If so, when is Bat 2 due? Is it just a slight change from 1.54? Thanks, Jon -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Import Mails from Outlook2000
Hello, until now i'm using Outlook2000 under NT4.0, but I'm very interested to change to TB!. I have many mails, which I don't want to loose. Evaluating TB! 1.53d I could not find a way to import my mails from Outlook2000. Does anybody know a solution for this problem ? -- Best regards, Jörg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Getting my data from Outlook 2000 into The Bat
I am having trouble importing my data. I have Outlook 2000 and Outlook 6 running Windows XP. Can I import all the data from Outlook 2000 via Outlook 6 into TB and still preserve the folder structure? Will it be seemless or cause some problems? Once in TB, can I drag and drop the folders about so I alter the folder parent-child relationships etc.? Thanks, Jon -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
On Monday, January 07, 2002, Jon Lawrance wrote something about 'Should I dump Outlook 2000?', to which I'd like to add the following... JL> For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have JL> noticed? Speed, reliability, security, ease of use, automated features, etc, etc, etc. JL> What is the biggest downside you have found? I kinda miss the animated paper clip "assistant", sometimes. I think The Bat! should have a little animated bat cartoon character to annoy you occaisionally. Cheers, Han. +--+ | Han Thomas 25/1 Moo 2 Pa Bong, Saraphee| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Chiang Mai 50140 THAILAND | +--+ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import Mails from Outlook2000
Hello Jörg, Monday, January 07, 2002, 08:17:07 PM, you wrote: JK> Hello, JK> until now i'm using Outlook2000 under NT4.0, but I'm very interested to change to JK> TB!. I have many mails, which I don't want to loose. Evaluating TB! JK> 1.53d I could not find a way to import my mails from Outlook2000. JK> Does anybody know a solution for this problem ? Hi Joerg - I had the same problem coming from Outlook XP. One really bad thing was, that when I exported Outlook mails to the msg format, TB did not see any kind of date or time from the mail, so all mails were just there, without any way of sorting them. So, my glorious solution: ;) I put about 100 mails into one mail as attachments, right from Outlook, then sent that to an email address. >From TB, I used the POP account from the used email address and just downloaded the big mail. A doubleclick on one of the attached mails opened a window with all the mails listed with the correct date - I just imported all those into my TB inbox. Hope this helps, Sebastian. :) -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import Mails from Outlook2000
Hi Jörg, > Hello, > until now i'm using Outlook2000 under NT4.0, but I'm very interested to change to > TB!. I have many mails, which I don't want to loose. Evaluating TB! > 1.53d I could not find a way to import my mails from Outlook2000. > Does anybody know a solution for this problem ? Import the messages first into Outlook Express and then into TB. -- Best regards, Mikey Brass Archaeology BSocSci(Hons), University of Cape Town "The Antiquity of Man" http://www.antiquityofman.com My employer is not responsible for my opinions, regardless of how sensible they are. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
On 7 January 2002 at 7:09 pm Jon wrote: > I haven't yet moved over to TB from Outlook 2000 yet, so I am seeking > opinions from others about whether or not I should do so. > For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have > noticed? What is the biggest downside you have found? That'll provoke a huge postbag but I feel no desire not to contribute ;) Main benefits: (i) TB! can cope with huge databases of emails (80,000+ in my case!) without crashing or misbehaving; there was never the slightest chance that Outlook could do so, and I was continually having to hive off messages into archives and juggle things around (and there's no need for "PST [Outlook mail file] repair utilities" and similar); (ii) TB! doesn't suffer from intrinsic security problems (not merely a spectator's opinion; my company suffered from several Outlook viruses which caused the most extraordinary chaos); (iii) TB! loads quickly and can be left to run in the background without bloating up the machine; (iv) TB!'s filtering is excellent; Outlook's filters are a sad failure, as they try to use a "naturalish" language which isn't really tractable; (v) TB!'s templates are also excellent; Outlook users see something like "At 6.48pm on 7 January 2002 Fred said:" at the top of the message and think this is wonderful ;) (vi) TB! has no integrated calendar functionality. This might sound rather odd, but on one project I was plagued with meeting requests and other auto-generated bombardments from Outlook. Things actually ran more smoothly when I persuaded everyone to switch off all this functionality because I used TB!, which didn't understand it ;) (vii) The backup and restore is an absolute lifesaver, and would be even better if it could be automated from outside the program (a common request) ... Main demerits: (i) Rather stiff UI - customisable toolbars and suchlike are more important than I thought; (ii) The learning curve is phenomenal; after several months using the package I'm still learning every day. Unfortunately, most people don't have the time or motivation for this, and it's a bit annoying when you've overlooked something because the online help isn't very good (if a secret benefactor were willing to pay 6 months' salary I'd gladly vanish into a corner and rewrite the whole help system from scratch for nothing ;) Alastair smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re[2]: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Monday, January 07, 2002, 1:38:32 PM, you wrote: [...] > (ii) The learning curve is phenomenal; after several months using the > package I'm still learning every day. Unfortunately, most people don't > have the time or motivation for this, and it's a bit annoying when > you've overlooked something because the online help isn't very good > (if a secret benefactor were willing to pay 6 months' salary I'd > gladly vanish into a corner and rewrite the whole help system from > scratch for nothing ;) > Alastair Alastair, how 'bout a conglomeration of benefactors? I agree to chip in $20. Who will see my $20 and raise me $10? PS: Ditto all your points, pro and con. -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Getting my data from Outlook 2000 into The Bat
Monday, January 07, 2002, 7:13:38 PM, Jon Lawrance wrote: > I am having trouble importing my data. I have Outlook 2000 and Outlook 6 > running Windows XP. --- I posted my method for getting mail between Outlook 98 and TB to Jörg Koren's thread. Perhaps that will help you. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import Mails from Outlook2000
Monday, January 07, 2002, 7:17:07 PM, Jörg Koren wrote: > Hello, > until now i'm using Outlook2000 under NT4.0, but I'm very interested to change to > TB!. I have many mails, which I don't want to loose. Evaluating TB! > 1.53d I could not find a way to import my mails from Outlook2000. > Does anybody know a solution for this problem ? --- I recently converted from Outlook 98 to TB on NT4 (SP6). Hopefully, my experiences will prove helpful, but no guarantees! FWIW, I couldn't find a direct path to get my messages from Outlook to TB except by exporting each message (individually) from outlook and then importing those messages into TB. That said, there is a fairly-good indirect route. 1. In Outlook Express, import the messages from Outlook, then close Outlook Express. 2. In The Bat! use the Import Wizard to import the messages from Outlook Express. (Tools->Import Messages->Mailbox Import Wizard). Using this method, I imported over three thousand messages from Outlook to TB in just a few minutes (the longest part was the transfer between the MS products!) However, there is a problem if you're running multiple PST files. Outlook Express only finds the messages in your main PST file. Because of this, you cannot import messages that are in additional personal folders (PST files). The work-around here is to copy all your messages from the secondary PST files to your main PST file before doing the first import. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a way to get my contact lists from Outlook to TB, keeping email addresses, snailmail addresses, and telephone numbers intact. The most reliable method for me is to export as VCard from Outlook and import the VCard into TB as I need each address. However, that means that it will be some time before I can give the simple MAPI function over to TB -- because that prevents Outlook from starting and I need Outlook to retrieve my contact info. In all, this has not been an easy process. However, for me, the immunity from email viruses and web-bugs, the speed and flexibility make it worth while. HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
OT: To HTML or not to HTML (was: Macros for all address book field)
Hello Roelof, On 7 Jan 2002 at 18:09:25 you wrote (at least in part): RO> BTW Why do you use HTML-encoding mail for a message that doesn't need RO> it? Makes the message more than twice as long as necessary. A waste of RO> bandwidth for you and everybody else on this list. Because he's using the "second best" (attention! ironic!) MUA in the world: Outlook Express 6.0. the only one better is: Outlook Express 7.0 (to be developed; ironic too!) *ggg* The only client producing better, means bigger, fancy mails is "Incredible Mail". And 'Nomen est omen': it'S absolutely incredible what this Mail-User- produces :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Felix of Borg: You will be assimilated into the magic bag!! -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Jon, JL> For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have JL> noticed? I switched finally just a few days ago because of problems with Outlook 2002 receiving various attachment extensions, stripping LF's in received messages, and adding LF's in sent messages. TB leaves my messages alone. I find TB's filters and macro's to be much easier to use and for me more powerful. I like reducing to the tray icon. I think TB is at least equal to or better than Outlook for speed and handling my volume of mail (200-300 messages per day - 1.3 GB of Outlook pst's) TB is better for searching. TB does not lock up on certain MIME certs the way Outlook did. JL> What is the biggest downside you have found? Not having my calendar. Terry Fritts -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Getting my data from Outlook 2000 into The Bat
Hello Jon, On 7 Jan 2002 at 20:13:38 you wrote (at least in part): JL> I am having trouble importing my data. I have Outlook 2000 and Outlook 6 JL> running Windows XP. JL> Can I import all the data from Outlook 2000 via Outlook 6 into TB and still JL> preserve the folder structure? IMHO: yes, JL> Will it be seemless or cause some problems? Not I can remember of. JL> Once in TB, can I drag and drop the folders about so I alter the folder JL> parent-child relationships etc.? 100% YES! JL> Thanks, Please :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Reality is for those who can't face Science Fiction. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
It was foretold that on 7-1-2002 @ 19:09:57 GMT- (which was 20:09 where I live) Jon Lawrance wrote and spread these wise comments on "Should I dump Outlook 2000?": > For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have > noticed? What is the biggest downside you have found? Downside: missing my calendar Benefits: to manny to mention!! I switched a few weeks ago. Believe me, do it!!! -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 = public key directly: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x85840713 = "To get nowhere, follow the crowd." --Frank Baer. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Macros for all address book field
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It was foretold that on 7-1-2002 @ 17:22:45 GMT+0100 (which was 17:22 where I live) Nemo666 wrote and spread these wise comments on "Macros for all address book field": > If it is possible, where can I find the list of all the macros-associated > with address book fields?? In the Help files: section "Message Templates" you will find a sub section called "The complete list of template macro's". - -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 = public key directly: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x85840713 = "Xerox never comes up with anything original." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Build 06 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Key ID 0x56E226B8 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/ iQA/AwUBPDn7rEOsAqmFhAcTEQLSuwCfcaZRA0FUxAwtSesr2cYqBz4hA8IAnj5N GHot3fGenJaDETEq+mxm60Cg =9s+1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
WAS: colourgroup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, To all who helped me with the colourggroups: tnx! It's a nice feature ;) - -- Best regards, Luc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 = public key directly: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x85840713 = "I highly recommend worrying. It is much more effective than dieting." -- William Powell. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt Build 06 http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: Key ID 0x56E226B8 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/ iQA/AwUBPDn9RkOsAqmFhAcTEQK0CgCg6MNF6fwu0oSnePW9tfLWGiy9orAAoNvB TE9L2RmzQHQdFcCSgA0+t5oZ =+c2L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
A couple of filter questions
L> "Should I dump Outlook 2000?": I switched last week and love it. Mail archive from Outlook2k via Outlook Express 5 and then into TB worked fine, contacts cobbled across via CSV files eventually. There are a couple of things I have not been able to - 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup & restore - where is it??Is it not there because I am in standalone mode maybe? Do I care since it seems to me I can just copy the directories anyway? 2. Can't see how to use filters like "InAddrGroup: friends" in an Incoming Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like "InAddrGroup" (which I only know about from an earlier posting) oh, and 3. I have set up 2 POP3 accounts, with one doing a selective download (which alone was worth switching from Outlook believe me!) then diverting all surviving mail to my main identity's Inbox. This in turn runs some "Incoming" filters to run highlight colours, distribute into mailing-list folders and so on. Thing with this is the filters don't seem to always run until I do a manual re-filter. Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from the server directly into that Inbox? Many thanks for any answers you might wish to provide! I've already spent several hours configuring and tweaking TB and I'm very nearly content! -- Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 January 2002 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: A couple of filter questions
Hello Alan, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:29:00 +GMT (7-1-02, 22:29 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AO> Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from AO> the server directly into that Inbox? You can skip the 'reliable'. Incoming filters only work when downloading from the matching account. This is rumoured to be changed in a next version, but I don't know how long that'll be. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: A couple of filter questions
Hello Alan, 07. januar 2002, 22:29:00, you wrote: AO> 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup & restore - where is it??Is it AO> not there because I am in standalone mode maybe? Do I care since it seems to AO> me I can just copy the directories anyway? Tools -> Backup, Tools -> Restore AO> 2. Can't see how to use filters like "InAddrGroup: friends" in an Incoming AO> Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like AO> "InAddrGroup" (which I only know about from an earlier posting) Check the Advanced tab of Sorting Office. AO> 3. I have set up 2 POP3 accounts, with one doing a selective download (which AO> alone was worth switching from Outlook believe me!) then diverting all surviving AO> mail to my main identity's Inbox. This in turn runs some "Incoming" filters to AO> run highlight colours, distribute into mailing-list folders and so on. Thing AO> with this is the filters don't seem to always run until I do a manual re-filter. AO> Do the Incoming Filters only work reliably when downloading from the server AO> directly into that Inbox? After the message was filtered to another account it isn't processed by that account's filters. You might try to use local delivery, but it changes some headers... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] If you lose your temper at a newspaper columnist, he'll get rich or famous or both. -- Hagerty's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
On Monday, January 07, 2002, 20:45:03, Joe Finocchiaro wrote: > Alastair, how 'bout a conglomeration of benefactors? > Who will see my $20 and raise me $10? All right, I'll contribute 5 (and not just because I want to know if everybody can identify the above as a Euro-Sign ;) If not, how can I set ISO-8859-15 as the default? Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany Fortune cookies get broken before they do anything profound. So do a lot of people. -- Adam Rifkin and Samantha Crouse -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: A couple of filter questions
Hi Jernej, Monday, January 07, 2002, 10:07:49 PM, you wrote: JS> Hello Alan, JS> 07. januar 2002, 22:29:00, you wrote: AO>> 1. Can't find the Maintenance mode for backup & restore - where is it?? JS> Tools -> Backup, Tools -> Restore Now I just feel stupid! AO>> Filter, where would that string go? And where can I find the list of variables like AO>> "InAddrGroup" (which I only know about from an earlier posting) JS> Check the Advanced tab of Sorting Office. Oh yes, it scrolls I see.. JS> After the message was filtered to another account it isn't processed JS> by that account's filters. You might try to use local delivery, but it JS> changes some headers... I guess the simplest way is to just copy the filter to fire on both account downloads. Thanks a lot, even for pointing out the obvious (oftentimes the hardest to spot of course!) Alan -- Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07 January 2002 Please note new email address - old one will continue to work for now -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
Hey there. :) Is this a bug or is it a BAT "feature": If I try to copy a string that goes from say 3 words before the line break past the first three words of a new line, it just copies the part from the first line, but omits the second line - why is that? Also, in HTML view I am not able to copy and paste certain strings, like numbers, etc - why is that? Thank you for your help, Sebastian. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Monday, January 07, 2002, 4:16:45 PM, you wrote: > On Monday, January 07, 2002, 20:45:03, Joe Finocchiaro wrote: >> Alastair, how 'bout a conglomeration of benefactors? >> Who will see my $20 and raise me $10? > All right, I'll contribute 5 (and not just because I want to know if > everybody can identify the above as a Euro-Sign ;) Aah...so that's what a "Euro" looks like. According to Comptroller of the Currency, a Euro is worth approximately 90 cents US. So you can do much better than a measly $4.50, Roman. Let's say...30 ? Now who will make it 50? -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
Hello Sebastian, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:33:34 +0100GMT (7-1-02, 23:33 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: S> If I try to copy a string that goes from say 3 words before the line S> break past the first three words of a new line, it just copies the S> part from the first line, but omits the second line - why is that? S> Also, in HTML view I am not able to copy and paste certain strings, S> like numbers, etc - why is that? Don't know. I'm not able to reproduce that error. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
StrongBat?
Hi, where can I find more info on StrongBat? Thanks, Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\<,__`\<,__>(_) (_)/<_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v "Dogs come when they're called; cats take a message and get back to you later." --Mary Bly -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
ON Monday, January 07, 2002, 11:16:45 PM, you wrote: Roman> All right, I'll contribute 5 (and not just because I want to know if Roman> everybody can identify the above as a Euro-Sign ;) Roman> If not, how can I set ISO-8859-15 as the default? Roman> Roman I can read it and I am running the Lucinda system font. -- Best regards, Gerard Insert Cookie Here--> Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum. (I think I think, therefore, I think I am.) -- Ambrose Bierce Windows 2000 Professional with TB Version 1.53t -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sebastian, On 7 Jan 2002 at 23:33:34 +0100, Sebastian [S] wrote concerning 'BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???': S> If I try to copy a string that goes from say 3 words before the S> line break past the first three words of a new line, it just copies S> the part from the first line, but omits the second line - why is S> that? I don't understand. S> Also, in HTML view I am not able to copy and paste certain strings, S> like numbers, etc - why is that? Copying works just fine. How do you want to paste in an (html)message? - -- Best regards, David ** 007 of Borg: "From Borg with Love." ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDoYlVK9yf5+yp9NEQJ0JQCg3fa0XzhB/7zMRslPUK9ZRN3pkdYAoIUF +x/kU7PrCC9mP1eZklpaSSoJ =yF8w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: StrongBat?
B-stok/PL, 7 Jan 2002 Hello Andy, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, at 17:40:02 (which was 23:40 where I live) you wrote: AS> where can I find more info on StrongBat? Except some mentions on this list - nowhere. So far. Marck wrote few days ago small summarize: The Bat! = No protection AuthenticBat! = Logon protection StrongBat!= MailBase encryption SecureBat!= Logon protection + MailBase encryption -- Michal Kosinski 0x280ED01A TheBat! 1.54 Beta/24 (1C2D55D1) | Windows NT 5.0 2195 SP2 This is message no. 46 sent to this list by me. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Han, On 7 Jan 2002 at 14:15:24 +0100, Han Thomas [HT] wrote concerning 'Should I dump Outlook 2000?': JL>> What is the biggest downside you have found? HT> I kinda miss the animated paper clip "assistant", sometimes. I HT> think The Bat! should have a little animated bat cartoon character HT> to annoy you occaisionally. You're kidding here aren't you? - -- Best regards, David ** Ever stop to think, and forget to start again? ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/25] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPDoY8lK9yf5+yp9NEQIT+wCg2o20g2LLETFFHHyduSNKpxZyvVsAoL6o 0ZiwmJnstuvCw7b832M7X7VE =T189 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
S>> If I try to copy a string that goes from say 3 words before the S>> line break past the first three words of a new line, it just copies S>> the part from the first line, but omits the second line - why is S>> that? DvZ> I don't understand. I will try to explain: I have a tracking number, that I need to copy by highlighting it and hitting ctrl-c - then, when I try to PASTE it into my internet explorer, it just gives me that half of the number that was in the upper line, but nothing from the second line. S>> Also, in HTML view I am not able to copy and paste certain strings, S>> like numbers, etc - why is that? DvZ> Copying works just fine. How do you want to paste in an (html)message? See, it doesn't - I just want to copy a string from an HTML mail and paste it into another program - it appears to just not copy anything. Any input? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
On Monday, January 07, 2002, 23:34:34, Joe Finocchiaro wrote: > Aah...so that's what a "Euro" looks like. > According to Comptroller of the Currency, a Euro is worth > approximately 90 cents US. > So you can do much better than a measly $4.50, Roman. Sorry, poor college student. If I get a top position at some company, rest assured that I'll make it about 50 ;-) Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany You might be a redneck if your dad walks you to school because you're in the same grade. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
users vision POOR??? (was: Re: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 0:05 op dinsdag 8 januari 2002, Sebastian: > I will try to explain: I have a tracking number, that I need to copy > by highlighting it and hitting ctrl-c - then, when I try to PASTE it > into my internet explorer, it just gives me that half of the number > that was in the upper line, but nothing from the second line. it is there, on the second line of the box of your IE you pasted it to... you have to select the second line after copy/pasting the first and ctrl-c/ctrl-v it too. it's tedious, but it works. sometimes del works at the end of the first line in the IE-box, sometimes it doesn't. good luck. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPDofaEtQMadp+KslEQJXFACg6vLwMasbXlHR2QsjOqrJwAbN4kEAnilo +hC7Br8RKTKv/cCuVixUwBMx =Bxrn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
On Monday, January 07, 2002, David van Zuijlekom wrote something about 'Should I dump Outlook 2000?', to which I'd like to add the following... HT>> Drawbacks: I kinda miss the animated paper clip "assistant", HT>> sometimes. I think The Bat! should have a little animated HT>> bat cartoon character to annoy you occaisionally. DvZ> You're kidding here aren't you? Yes. :-) Cheers, Han. +--+ | Han Thomas 25/1 Moo 2 Pa Bong, Saraphee| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]Chiang Mai 50140 THAILAND | +--+ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
RE: StrongBat?
What is StrongBat? Thanks, Jon > -Original Message- > From: Michal Kosinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:55 > To: Andy Spiegl > Subject: Re: StrongBat? > > > B-stok/PL, 7 Jan 2002 > > Hello Andy, > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, at 17:40:02 (which was 23:40 where I live) > you wrote: > > AS> where can I find more info on StrongBat? > > Except some mentions on this list - nowhere. So far. > > Marck wrote few days ago small summarize: > > The Bat! = No protection > AuthenticBat! = Logon protection > StrongBat!= MailBase encryption > SecureBat!= Logon protection + MailBase encryption > > -- > Michal Kosinski 0x280ED01A > TheBat! 1.54 Beta/24 (1C2D55D1) | Windows NT 5.0 2195 SP2 > This is message no. 46 sent to this list by me. > > > -- > > Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com > Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Latest Vers: 1.53d > FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com > > -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: StrongBat?
> Except some mentions on this list - nowhere. So far. So, it only exists in theory??? :-) > The Bat! = No protection > AuthenticBat! = Logon protection > StrongBat!= MailBase encryption > SecureBat!= Logon protection + MailBase encryption That's exactly why I ask. Andy. -- Dr. Andy Spiegl, Radio Marañón, Jaén, Perú E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://spiegl.de, http://radiomaranon.org.pe PGP/GPG: see headers o _ _ _ --- __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) -o) - _`\<,__`\<,__>(_) (_)/<_\_| \ _|/' \/ /\\ (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o__\_v Your picture of the world often changes just before you get it into focus. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Reply using a selected part of the message
Hello Gerard, It was foretold that on Monday, January 7, 2002 at 10:48 GMT +0100, Gerard de Vries [GDV] would type: GDV> There are no right's and wrongs here. It depends on the way you work. GDV> The point I was trying to make is that if you have text marked an press GDV> reply, it looks like you want to reply using only the marked text and I GDV> feel the software should be smart enough to to recognise that. Be a little careful here. TB is using a template when you reply, so really the template should take precedence. Perhaps a new macro would be the better way of doing what you need. Something like %QUOTESELECTED could by default give any selected text, and if none is selected or you hit the quote modifier button (F4 or whatever), it should quote the full text. That way you really can *define* the behaviour you want instead of changing the default. There is no such thing as a %QUOTESELECTED macro at this time. I am merely using it as a suggestion for a useful macro. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Hello David, Monday, January 07, 2002, 4:53:50 PM, you wrote: DvZ> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- DvZ> Hash: SHA1 DvZ> Hello Han, DvZ> On 7 Jan 2002 at 14:15:24 +0100, Han Thomas [HT] wrote concerning DvZ> 'Should I dump Outlook 2000?': JL>>> What is the biggest downside you have found? HT>> I kinda miss the animated paper clip "assistant", sometimes. I HT>> think The Bat! should have a little animated bat cartoon character HT>> to annoy you occaisionally. DvZ> You're kidding here aren't you? Why would that be a joke? >;) You gotta have SOMETHING to shoot rubber bands at, don't you? -- Best regards, Geordonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sebastian, On 07 January 2002 at 00:05:58 +0100 (which was 23:05 where I live) Sebastian wrote to David van Zuijlekom and made these points: > I will try to explain: I have a tracking number, that I need to copy > by highlighting it and hitting ctrl-c - then, when I try to PASTE it > into my internet explorer, it just gives me that half of the number > that was in the upper line, but nothing from the second line. That's because it contains a line break. The edit control you're pasting into stops at the line break. It's not TB's fault. > See, it doesn't - I just want to copy a string from an HTML mail and > paste it into another program - it appears to just not copy > anything. > Any input? There used to be a problem with the implementation of Ctrl-C to copy. Try using the context menu or Ctrl-Ins instead. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / · TB! v1.54 Beta/25-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 · -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8OjEiOeQkq5KdzaARAhG5AKCA5jEXW2zpHu0Ox5nGLpUK/zJdwQCginX/ aUQhCaMrB3tvTjpVZeniypg= =5z5H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The faq and Opera
I am confused (sometimes not hard to do). If I create a "new account" in TB, it creates a totally separate mail folder in addition to the main account. I do *not* want that. I want to be able to occasionally use "List Administration" as my ID for outgoing mailing list posts, and ETM as my ID for non-administrative posts to the same mailing lists. I want the downloaded filtered mail to go into a single mail system. Why would I want to check two separate mail area and its folders? This might work for spouses using the same PC, might work for separating personal and business, but does not work for what I want, which is a posting-only-account-ID. I am absolutely indifferent to how the person addresses me (whether it be List Admin or ETM) since there is no change in the underlying mail address, simply the account ID, so long as the incoming mail filters to the proper folder (in one mail area, not two) and I can quickly switch my personality ID in the outgoing email. In my confusion, since I am able to do this in OE using my cable address and a yahoo address/pop3 download to OE, am I missing how it is done in TB or is TB modeled after the Netscape profile system which separates users and mailboxes and prevents combining mail download to one area? Elaine - Original Message - From: "Ottar Grimstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ETM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:11 AM Subject: Re: The faq and Opera > > Isn't it just as easy to change account names in The Bat? > And filter can filter mail to folders in other accounts, so I would > think that filtering all accounts to the same folders would be > rather easily done in The Bat as well. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Hi Alastair, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:38:32 +GMT (08/01/2002, 03:38 +0800GMT), Alastair Scott wrote: AS> (ii) The learning curve is phenomenal; after several months using the AS> package I'm still learning every day. Unfortunately, most people don't AS> have the time or motivation for this, If you don't want to use TB's myriad of possibilities but only use a MUA that allows seperate accounts, doesn't run viruses, and is easy to use, TB is for you. If you advance later on and discover features you never knew existed, TB is for you. For simple use, TB doesn't have a steep learning curve. My mother is by no means a computer freak, and she was up and running it after a short instruction. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Import Mails from Outlook2000
Hi Sebastian, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:34:51 +0100GMT (08/01/2002, 03:34 +0800GMT), Sebastian wrote: S> So, my glorious solution: ;) S> I put about 100 mails into one mail as attachments, right from S> Outlook, then sent that to an email address. S> From TB, I used the POP account from the used email address and just S> downloaded the big mail. A doubleclick on one of the attached mails S> opened a window with all the mails listed with the correct date - I S> just imported all those into my TB inbox. This is indeed a very good way! I will save your message. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Hi Jon, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:09:57 -GMT (08/01/2002, 03:09 +0800GMT), Jon Lawrance wrote: JL> I haven't yet moved over to TB from Outlook 2000 yet, so I am seeking JL> opinions from others about whether or not I should do so. JL> For those who have made the shift, what are the biggest benefits you have JL> noticed? What is the biggest downside you have found? You've found the right list for this question. Here are the benefits of Outlook: - HTML email by default. This means colours, animated gifs, even sounds! - Automatic opening of attachments. No need to click and that .pif file that some unkown friendly person sent to you. - Hiding of "known" file extensions. If they are known to your computer, you don't need to see them any more. After all, what do you have the computer for? - Automatic sending of mails by external programs. (The Bat! can do this also, but unfortunately, it will let you know about it.) - Integration into everything else in your computer. OL can do just everything except wash your socks! - Proprietary file format for message base, so that no other mail proggy or editor has access to your messages. - Handling of several POP accounts into the same Inbox. Seperate inboxes for seperate accounts, as offered by TB, is just too cumbersum. - Integrated newsreader. Even if you don't read news, it is always good to have a newsreader in your RAM. Who knows, one day you might need it. This list may not be complete, these are just the most outstanding benefits of Outlook. Maybe others want to add more. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: StrongBat?
Hi Andy, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:21:11 -0500GMT (08/01/2002, 07:21 +0800GMT), Andy Spiegl wrote: >> Except some mentions on this list - nowhere. So far. AS> So, it only exists in theory??? :-) That's what I think, because I looked and couldn't find StrangBat or AuthenticBat anywhere for download. Only TheBat and SecureBat seem to exist in reality. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Thomas, On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, at 10:53:57 [GMT +0800] (which was 8:23 AM where I live) you wrote: TF> If you don't want to use TB's myriad of possibilities but only use a TF> MUA that allows seperate accounts, doesn't run viruses, and is easy to TF> use, TB is for you. 100% agree with you TF> If you advance later on and discover features you TF> never knew existed, TB is for you. 100% agree with you I guess the point Alastair was making is that the learning curve is made phenomenal mainly due to lack of information or information not presented in proper manner. I personally used TB for over 8 months as described you in the first part. Its only when I stated digging did I realize I have to dig deep and at multiple place to strike. This is what make getting used to TB difficult. For most people e-mail is a tool to get their work done and one cannot expect them to search all over the net or subscribe to TBUDL to get majority of info. It should be available in the help file with examples. I guess its high time people at RITlabs realized that its just not important to have a good product but also package it well. -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Love may be blind but marriage is a real eye-opener. Replied on 8 Jan 2002 using TB Ver 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: BAT's copy & paste capabilities POOR???
On 7 Jan 2002, 5:37:04 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > That's because it contains a line break. The edit control you're > pasting into stops at the line break. It's not TB's fault. when I copy from html and paste into smart bat, it all pastes into one line -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT version 5,1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The faq and Opera
Group the separate accounts. Having separated accounts is a good thing. There are all sorts of settings that might differ depending on one's audience or context. But you can also achieve the convenience that I think you are looking for. One of your accounts should have administrative rights. It is whichever one can access, on the menu bar, Options/Network & Administration. Then, under the Privileges tab, set the access privileges for the two accounts you created. Then go under Groups," create a new name for the group, and check the boxes for both of your accounts. Set and confirm a password if you want. From then on, when you log in, use the group name instead of one of the account names. TB! will open with both accounts. You can filter using both, i.e., from one to the other, and even cut, copy, and paste filters from one to the other. Does that accomplish what you're looking for? JN ETM wrote on Monday, January 07, 2002: > I am confused (sometimes not hard to do). > If I create a "new account" in TB, it creates a totally separate mail folder > in addition to the main account. I do *not* want that. I want to be able > to occasionally use "List Administration" as my ID for outgoing mailing list > posts, and ETM as my ID for non-administrative posts to the same mailing > lists. I want the downloaded filtered mail to go into a single mail system. > Why would I want to check two separate mail area and its folders? > This might work for spouses using the same PC, might work for separating > personal and business, but does not work for what I want, which is a > posting-only-account-ID. I am absolutely indifferent to how the person > addresses me (whether it be List Admin or ETM) since there is no change in > the underlying mail address, simply the account ID, so long as the incoming > mail filters to the proper folder (in one mail area, not two) and I can > quickly switch my personality ID in the outgoing email. > In my confusion, since I am able to do this in OE using my cable address and > a yahoo address/pop3 download to OE, am I missing how it is done in TB or is > TB modeled after the Netscape profile system which separates users and > mailboxes and prevents combining mail download to one area? > Elaine > - Original Message - > From: "Ottar Grimstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ETM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:11 AM > Subject: Re: The faq and Opera >> >> Isn't it just as easy to change account names in The Bat? >> And filter can filter mail to folders in other accounts, so I would >> think that filtering all accounts to the same folders would be >> rather easily done in The Bat as well. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Seperate From ID's with same Email address (was: The faq and Opera)
Hi ETM, On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:50:06 -0500GMT (08/01/2002, 10:50 +0800GMT), ETM wrote: E> If I create a "new account" in TB, it creates a totally separate E> mail folder in addition to the main account. I do *not* want that. Understand. For me this was the first reason I ever looked into TB, but different folks etc. E> I want to be able to occasionally use "List Administration" as my E> ID for outgoing mailing list posts, and ETM as my ID for E> non-administrative posts to the same mailing lists. I want the E> downloaded filtered mail to go into a single mail system. If the two ID's (ETM and admin) are different email adresses, you need to create different accounts in TB. However, you can use filters to still filter all mails into the appropriate folders, even across accounts. If the two ID's use the same email address, you don't need to create a seperate account in TB. In order reply with different ID's (is this what you wish to do?), you can set up Reply templates that use the %From and %Reply-To macros. E> Why would I want to check two separate mail area and its folders? I have seven compeltely different accounts. Of course, office and work, but also German mailing lists, English mailing lists, etc. I wish to keep them seperately. None of the other mailers I used was able to do that. E> since there is no change in the underlying mail address, simply the E> account ID, so long as the incoming mail filters to the proper E> folder (in one mail area, not two) and I can quickly switch my E> personality ID in the outgoing email. So, instead of creating a new account in TB, all you want to do is create a new folder. And then you want to use folder templates with the macros I mentioned above. Whenever you reply out of the specific folder, your From address will be set. (You don't need to set the Reply-To in your case). E> In my confusion, since I am able to do this in OE using my cable E> address and a yahoo address/pop3 download to OE, am I missing how E> it is done in TB or is TB modeled after the Netscape profile system E> which separates users and mailboxes and prevents combining mail E> download to one area? Much easier than either of those (see above). ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
SOT:Re[2]: Should I dump Outlook 2000?
Hi,all and especially Han! When it was Mon, 7 Jan 2002, and your watches showed 14:15:24 [GMT +0100]and time in Kiev, Ukraine was 15:15:24[GMT +02.00] --- you wrote: HT> I kinda miss the animated paper clip "assistant", sometimes. I think The HT> Bat! should have a little animated bat cartoon character to annoy you HT> occaisionally. Me too! What I like about MS Office - their animated character(especially a cat)Actually, that is the main reason I am moving from one version of Office to another. I would like to see similar one in TB, but I understand that the developers are quite busy with cleaning up bugs and preparing new versions(they are preparing v2 for ages). I hope that some time they will add MS agent support to their new version or a plug-in (together with plugin support :) So, I begin waiting... BTW this character can carry the functions of Help and Menu navigator. I am *not* joking! -- Regards, Konstantin Volenbovsky (The Bat 1.54 Beta/24 on Windows 98 Me) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
