Re: Re-filtering

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Razgo,

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:16:36 +1000GMT (11-9-03, 7:16 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

R> for some reason when using re-filter for my inbox it will not filter
R> all the messages that need filtering. it will filter all but only
R> process 13 or 19 and i have to keep re filtering it.

Do you mean to say that when you re-filter for a second time some
messages trigger the filter while they didn't do so the first you ran
the filter?
If so your sorting office might be corrupted, but apart from redoing
it from scratch I wouldn't know what to do.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Anne,

> I've set up the pop » nntp and the smtp » nntp tabs... & am using
> my ISP's news server (or trying to!) on port 119 but when I tell
> it to get the list of newsgroups I get an error box saying
> (exactly as shown):
>
> TGatedWinSocketStream.ReadUntil timeout

On the POP3>NNTP gate, have you tried increasing the Timeout (default to
10 secs) on the NNTP Tab?

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Re[2]: Re-filtering

[Razgo]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 5:04:36 PM, you wrote:

Roelof> Hallo Razgo,

Roelof> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:16:36 +1000GMT (11-9-03, 7:16 +0200, where I
Roelof> live), you wrote:

R>> for some reason when using re-filter for my inbox it will not filter
R>> all the messages that need filtering. it will filter all but only
R>> process 13 or 19 and i have to keep re filtering it.

Roelof> Do you mean to say that when you re-filter for a second time some
Roelof> messages trigger the filter while they didn't do so the first you ran
Roelof> the filter?

yes that's basically it. it never seems to filter all email in my
inbox. firts time or second time. i just keep repeating the re-filter
and it only does a small amount and says it's finished each time i do
it.

well if i have to redo all my filters again to get it sorted then
maybe i will try that.



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Re: v2 compatible with older version?

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> I should elaborate on that. 2.00 has some extra macros. Those have no
> function in 1.62 And some other macros have  slightly different
> meaning or syntax in 2.00, that's worse.

Thanks. That is what I thought and that is why I haven't even tried v2.0
yet. I do a lot of automatic and semi-automatic message processing and I
therefore use a lot (quite a lot) of templates and macros. I know that
sooner or later I will upgrade and will have to at least tweak some or
many of my templates, but I would really hate to have to come back to
1.62 and have to undo the tweaking.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Julien,

> Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing
> something wrong ?

Have you tried to un-subscribe from a group, delete all messages and
subscribe again?

> (I use News.CIS.DFN.DE as newserver)

Same here and haven't had any problem.

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Re: Format "Date Created" in Preview Pane

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

> It doesn't matter which one is internally maintained, as there really
> is only one time regardless of the timezone in which it is displayed.
> TB uses the Date: header, if that answers your question. ;-)

Well yes, it does :)

> The question was only about the display. Now, the time is only
> displayed in the sender's local time in the header field, but in your
> local time time in the message list.

That is what worried me because, as I have said, I sort on created time.

> The header field used to display the time in both time zones, and I
> miss that. It has always been displayed in my local time in the
> message list, and I like that.

Understand. But don't worry too much, many people repeat the time in
different parts of the world in their replies ;-)

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Re: Re-filtering

[MAU]

Hello Razgo,

> well if i have to redo all my filters again to get it sorted then
> maybe i will try that.

Have your purged and compressed your Inbox lately?


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Re: v2 compatible with older version?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MAU,

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:19:59 +0200GMT (11-9-03, 9:19 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

M> but I would really hate to have to come back to 1.62 and have to
M> undo the tweaking.

And then there are back-ups to make that easy.

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Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Julien RANC]

Bonjour MAU,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:23:20 AM, j'ai pu lire:

M> Hello Julien,

>> Did anyone experienced the same problem, or is it just me ? I am doing
>> something wrong ?

M> Have you tried to un-subscribe from a group, delete all messages and
M> subscribe again?

That's what I did, and it now seems to work fine. In fact, I even
found the reason of this "bug": I had not subscribed to the right
group. Shame on me...

Thanks for your help. That's how I discovered my problem.

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Re: v2 compatible with older version?

[MAU]

Hello Roelof,

> And then there are back-ups to make that easy.

Agree, but it has always been my policy (for any software I use for
work) to NOT upgrade as soon as a new version is released. I usually
wait until it is a bit more "polished" and stable :)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[MAU]

Hello Julien,

> I had not subscribed to the right group. Shame on me...

Don't worry, things like that happen every day. The important thing is
that you found the "bug" :-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Peter Fjelsten]

Clive,

On 11-09-2003 08:28, you [C] wrote in
:

C> I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to work only
C> by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and MyGate (NNTP on 119).
C> Any other combinations just wouldn't work.

My ports are 2000 and 2001.

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Re: Macros in V2

[Carsten Thönges]

* Robin Anson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a useful quick template created at some stage by Carsten Thönges
> that allows me to include blank lines in the quoted text in my reply
> template. Unfortunately this breaks in v2.

This is the new version:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
%REM=' quote_bl - Quoting includes blank lines
   written by Carsten Thoenges, December 2001
   Last modified: 2003-09-10 (needs TB! V2.0)
'%-
%If:`%_qblFirstTime`==``:`%-
%___%_qblFirstTime="No"%-
%___%-
%___%SetPattRegExp="(?ism)\A\n*(.*?\n)\n*\Z"%-
%___%_qblText="%RegExpMatch(%Quotes)"%-
%___%-
%___%SetPattRegExp="^(.{0,50}?>+ )"%-
%___%_qblPrefix="%RegExpMatch(%QHeaders)"%-
`%-
%SetPattRegExp="(?ism)\A(.*?\n)(.*)\z"%-
%RegExpBlindMatch(%_qblText)%-
%_qblLine="%SubPatt(1)"%-
%_qblText="%SubPatt(2)"%-
%-
%SetPattRegExp="(?ism)(\S*?)\s*\n"%-
%If:"%RegExpMatch(%_qblLine)"=="":"%-
%___%_qblPrefix
":"%-
%___%_qblLine"%-
%-
%If:`%_qblText`==``:`%-
%___%_qblFirstTime="No"%-
%___%_qblLine=""%-
%___%_qblPrefix=""`%-
:`%-
%___%QInclude(quote_bl)`%-
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Edgar]

Hello Julien,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 11:31:41 PM, Julien wrote:

E>> No,  my  problem  is the he downloads every thing, but is this was the
E>> first  time  that  you  downloaded messages he downloaded the last 100
E>> messages of the group?

> Yes, the first time, I checked what it downloaded with OE, and it was
> the 100 last messages, but now, I only get the replies to the threads
> I have: no new thread, nor _everything_ like you.

What is your port setting in TB! for pop3 and smtp?
And what did you fill in with message management (delete from servere)
/leave on server?

Which NNTP are you using (and is it free so I can check?).

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Account log font

[Clive Taylor]

Is it possible to change the font for the account logs? I can't find
the option anywhere and the default font is difficult to read here.
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Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Clive Taylor]

Hi Peter,

> My ports are 2000 and 2001.

Yes. I'm sure they are, but HERE MyMail won't work other than with
110. It might be a firewall issue (but I don't think so) but it works
as is!
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Re: Message headers

[Mark L]

Hello Mark,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:00:21 PM, you wrote:

M> The ability to add and edit message headers looks kind of neat.
M> I have been racking my brains to come up with some innovative
M> uses for this technology, but am struggling. Anyone have any
M> inspired uses for this?

I use that and a couple of macros to view/add the 'X-Request-PGP'
header.

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Re:Odd mini Bat2 Bug with window minimisation

[znark]

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Hash: SHA1


G'day Anne,
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, at 01:44:36 [GMT +0100] (10:44 here) you wrote:

A> Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 9:45:25 AM, znark wrote:

z>> Winkey+SHIFT+M should restore all windows that were minimized


A> Great thanks znark that did the trick.. knew I must have missed a
A> key combo somewhere!  ;-)


Sorry that this is a bit OT but, try these also:

WinKey + E   Explorer
WinKey + R   Run Dialog
WinKey + F   Search Dialog
WinKey + D   Show Desktop
WinKey + L   Switch User (Win XP)

See also
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;126449
for Win9x and
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301583
for XP

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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[Jamie Dainton]

Hello Dave,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:08:47 AM, you wrote:

JD>>> Now as I'm viewing TB! at 1600x1200 an unwrapped
JD>>> mail line is very long. Is it possible to set the viewer to force
JD>>> the mail to wrap at 80 columns?

>> Oh how I wish for that feature. :)

DG> Hear, hear!  :)

Stefan,  that's three people who'd like this feature. Should we make a
formal request?




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Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

[Dave Kennedy]

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 8:23:15 PM, Allie wrote:
A> We are in the know and they're not. :)

You put a smiley there, but you're right!  When Mosaic came out,
I was one of the first to stop using Gopher and Archie; the new
way was so much easier and quickly became more appealing.

A> We know the problems with HTML and they don't.

None of those typical end-users created the clients; a techy did
- because there was a market for it. People wanted to send
something other than boring-looking plain text e-mail.

A> It's an entirely different matter to have the problems
A> presented to someone and they still advocate HTML!!  and running>

Man, where's a smelly old fish when you need one?  :)

My position is not one of advocating HTML, but a more practical
rather than an ivory tower view of the world.  Pandora opened her
HTML e-mail and it's here to stay. We techies have to figure out a
way to deal with it. TB! is one - filter the "meat" and ignore
the fluff.  Works for me, but I don't have a shortage of b/w.

Side note - In the vast majority of cases, the issue of bandwidth
is a red herring in this argument. Not that bandwidth doesn't
matter, but SPAM has become so overwhelming that its percentage
use of bandwidth far exceeds the cost of HTML. If b/w is the main
concern, SPAM needs to get the attention.

The battle of HTML vs. plain text is comparable to the religious
wars of Windows vs. Mac, Motif vs. OpenLook, etc. People have an
opinion, and they have facts to support their side. The other
side has just has many facts, too. It comes down to what a person
believes and values.

If you have a lot of b/w, "paying" 3K for a 1K message is not a
big deal and the "waving palms" aren't that bothersome other than
aesthetically.  If you don't, then _paying_ 3K for 1K hurts!

PS - I've not posted this much of my opinions in 10 years - in
this post and others recently. It must be pent up and
overflowing! Maybe more fiber would help. :)

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Re[2]: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[David R. Austen]

Hello, all:

JD> Hello Dave,

JD> Thursday, September 11, 2003, it was written:

JD Now as I'm viewing TB! at 1600x1200 an unwrapped
JD mail line is very long. Is it possible to set the viewer to force
JD the mail to wrap at 80 columns?

>>> Oh how I wish for that feature. :)

I am now using Januk Aggarwal's excellent wrap templates

http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap
(%QINCLUDE="wq")

for (replies and forwards) and also hope to accomplish wrapping on
redirects, too. (Ideas?) FWIW, I use redirect frequently to modify a
subject line. With a two-letter nickname for addressees, I can
redirect pretty quickly.

1. Would this work-around make sense to others here, until "wrap
incoming" is available?

2. Do others already have a better way to customize subject lines?

(Special thanks to Marck for walking me over to that template.)

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No Dispatcher for IMAP in V2?

[Ron Mura]

Is there a way to run the Dispatcher or have a Dispatcher-like
function for IMAP accounts in Version 2?  I'd like to see the messages
as they exist, the way one could with the Dispatcher in Version 1.

(I don't want to set my IMAP InBox to "Synchronize Messages" because I
read them separately at home and at work, and when I delete or move a
message at work, I don't want it to be gone from the server InBox.)

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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[myob]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:04:54 +0100 GMT(11/09/2003, 12:04 PM + GMT), Jamie Dainton 
wrote:

JD> Hello Dave,

JD> Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:08:47 AM, you wrote:
...

JD> Stefan,  that's three people who'd like this feature.

Make that four!

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Re[2]: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[Allen]

myob,

m> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:04:54 +0100 GMT(11/09/2003, 12:04 PM
m> + GMT), Jamie Dainton wrote:

JD>> Hello Dave,

JD>> Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:08:47 AM, you wrote:
m> ...

JD>> Stefan,  that's three people who'd like this feature.

m> Make that four!

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Re: put "received" date in templates

[Mark L]

Hello Cyber,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 8:40:01 PM, you wrote:


CT>   Is there any way to get the date a message was received
CT> (not created) into the templates?

I've just started playing about with TB macros etc so I thought I'd give
it a go. Now I'm more confused than when I started. At first glance this
seemed to give me what I wanted but unfortunately I glanced again so now
I have some questions:


%SETPATTREGEXP="(;.*$)"
%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADER('Received')"
%VAR123=%SUBPATT='0'
%SETPATTREGEXP="\s.*(?=\+)"
%REM='Without timezone info?'
Received on %REGEXPMATCH="%VAR123"
%REM='With timezone info?'
%SETPATTREGEXP="\s.*"
Received on (with TZ) %REGEXPMATCH="%VAR123"

This successfully retrieves the latest 'Received' date from the message
headers but that is obviously not the one TB uses. Is there any way of
accessing that?

Why should I need to use the %VAR at all? Shouldn't it be possible to
put:
%REGEXPMATCH="%SUBPATT='0'"
That just gives me the whole header.

Is it possible to run a macro against incoming mail?
Any pointers gratefully received.

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Re[3]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Allen]

Edgar,
E> Hello Allen,

A Because  it  DID download all.  First time I checked my mail, I pulled
A 100  messages. Ten minutes later, it refreshed . . . now, I have about
A 2500 messages per group.
A>>

M>>> Sorry, I have no idea why this may have happened.

E> I've  installed  MyGate today. And it's receiving and sending mails to
E> news groups, but the thing that happend to you also happened to me.
E> I had the "leave mail on server" on.

[snip]

Still  running  in  to this problem -- but it worked fine for a while.
I'm  not  sure  what the deal is.  What's worse is that I'm on dialup,
these  days,  and I really can't sit around and wait for 30 megs worth
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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[Gerard]

ON Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:06:21 PM, you wrote:

A> myob,

m>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:04:54 +0100 GMT(11/09/2003, 12:04 PM
m>> + GMT), Jamie Dainton wrote:

JD>>> Hello Dave,

JD>>> Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:08:47 AM, you wrote:
m>> ...

JD>>> Stefan,  that's three people who'd like this feature.

m>> Make that four!

A> ...and an enthusiastic fifth!


I hope this isn´t the start of a "ME TO" thread.

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Re[2]: v2 compatible with older version?

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello Roelof,

RO> I switched several times between the 2.00 betas and 1.62r and that
RO> caused me no problems. The only difference is that 2.00 uses a

  Thanks all for the help. I can confirm the old *.exe runs just fine, and new
  maded folders are not seen just like that, but that was not importand for the
  test. As for the AV I will reply to the right thread.

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A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Fernando P. Nájera Cano]

Hi all

I'm developing a bandwidth limiter for POP3 (I haven't find any
similar for free by now), useful for The Bat! as well as any other
POP3 client. It is very simple as I do not plan to release it, but I
want to know if it could be useful for other people too so I would
develope it a little more. I can develope a SMTP bandwidth limiter
too, although I do not need it.

I have to share my bandwidth with more people and sometimes I collapse
the Internet connection for several minutes when downloading my email.
Now I can set a limit and The Bat! will never exceed that limit.

This limit apply for each account, so if two accounts are to be
checked, you cannot specify "10 kB/s for the sum of both" but you must
say "10 kB/s for each". It is quite a hard limitation, but I do not
plan to complicate further than this.

If you find this useful, let me know and we'll see...

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v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[Christopher LaFond]

Trying this again, since no one picked it up the first time:


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Service Pack 1

Since I changed to v.2, the one account that I have which is IMAP
freezes the program most (but not all) of the time when I click on the
Inbox. The program stops responding. If it doesn't stop responding
when I click on the Inbox, it freezes when I click on one of the
message headers that it has downloaded (though I have it set for full
synchronization, with the Inbox subscribed, so I should get more than
just headers), but then I click on a message and it freezes then too.

This happens about 50% of the time, and often, I will have to force
the program to quit. If I switch to do something else and come back to
it later, occasionally it has corrected itself.

Does anyone know what's going on? I don't have this problem with the
POP accounts that I have.

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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[myob]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:27:11 +0200 GMT(11/09/2003, 3:27 PM + GMT), Gerard wrote:


G> ON Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:06:21 PM, you wrote:


G> I hope this isn´t the start of a "ME TO" thread.

Not even a "ME TOO" one :-)  But I think it's useful to
indicate when suggestions for a formal request would have
wide support.


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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[MAU]

Hello Gerard,

> I hope this isn´t the start of a "ME TO" thread.

Me too! ;-)

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Re: WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re[2]: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........? <-- anyone else seeing this 'WARNING' prefix?

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, Pixie wrote...

JA>> I don't use my comcast account for emails, I run my own server,
JA>> so it's easier to monkey with what I want. There is a possibility
JA>> that it

> Do you happen to run that on a 'home' service? I've been thinking of
> throwing a server back up. Their AUP is very wishy washy with regard
> to servers.

I used to when I was using Coserv DSL. Unfortunately when I moved, I
checked with comcast they said that hosting was forbidden. So it's
hosted where I work.

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Re: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

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Hello Christopher,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:03:15 PM, you wrote:

CL> Trying this again, since no one picked it up the first time:

Maybe  that's because no one had a response. It's not as if you waited
very  long  before  reposting, someone might reply. Just be patient as
reposting is considered bad manners.


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Re: Start up: The Bat balks

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Hello David,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:05:02 AM, you wrote:
DRA> Best wishes,
DRA> David
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Re: v2 compatible with older version?

[Alexander]

11-Sep-2003 01:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> some other macros have slightly different meaning or syntax in 2.00

Is there a list which are affected, and how?


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Re: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[Alexander]

11-Sep-2003 03:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Since I changed to v.2, the one account that I have which is IMAP
> freezes the program most (but not all) of the time when I click on the

I'm not using v2 but I've read that one has to convert all existing v1 IMAP
accounts to POP3 prior to updating to v2, because its IMAP support is
entirely rewritten and completely different.

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Re[2]: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[Christopher LaFond]

Hello Jamie,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:47:58 AM, Jamie Dainton wrote:


CL>> Trying this again, since no one picked it up the first time:

JD> Maybe  that's because no one had a response. It's not as if you waited
JD> very  long  before  reposting, someone might reply. Just be patient as
JD> reposting is considered bad manners.

True. Someone else on the list that I know didn't see it come through
though, so I wanted to be sure that there wasn't a problem, since I
just signed on recently.


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Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Dave,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 7:49:12 AM, you wrote:
DK> The Internet is becoming to be treated in the same manner as
DK> automobiles. I.e. "I just want it to work and don't care how it
DK> works."

*Exactly*!! and Exactly why this is a Bad Thing (tm). When I drive
my car, and if I run over someone, I am personally held liable for my
actions in court. If I use my computer and it becomes infected with a
virus because I like to open every attachment (because somebody said
they love me), which in turn sends nasty little virus laden e-mails to
everyone in my address book, I'm not held accountable except by maybe
one of my recipients.

We as techies have the unfortunate burden of trying to educate the
masses on what is good and bad, and until the day comes where a user
can be held liable for their mis-actions on a machine, everyone
suffers. See:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/961943.asp?0dm=C14MT&cp1=1

and

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25845-2003Sep4?language=printer


I've cross-posted this to TBOT so we can continue, it's definitely
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Re[2]: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[mm Meister]

Hello Jamie,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:47:58 AM, you wrote:


CL>> Trying this again, since no one picked it up the first time:

JD> Maybe  that's because no one had a response. It's not as if you waited
JD> very  long  before  reposting, someone might reply. Just be patient as
JD> reposting is considered bad manners.

 Chris is a new subscriber to The Bat! list. When he sent his first
 mail, it did not seem to appear here on the list. This second attempt
 was made because it seemed the first had not worked.

 Maggie



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Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

[Leif Gregory]

Hello MAU,

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 5:13:30 AM, you wrote:
M> As you may have read a few days ago in a thread with subject "My
M> new 20 lines filter", you better start your text before line 20 or
M> I will not read any of your messages (provided you care at all if I
M> read them or not) ;-)

 Somebody is about > <   <--(this close) to being beaten to a bloody
 pulp by three trouts simultaneously. ;-)


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Re: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Fernando,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:02:00 AM, you wrote:
FPNC> I'm developing a bandwidth limiter for POP3 (I haven't find any
FPNC> similar for free by now), useful for The Bat! as well as any
FPNC> other POP3 client. It is very simple as I do not plan to release
FPNC> it, but I want to know if it could be useful for other people
FPNC> too so I would develope it a little more. I can develope a SMTP
FPNC> bandwidth limiter too, although I do not need it.

Is it a plugin? I'm interested only for the fact that it's a really
cool idea. I use bandwidth throttling here at work on many different
things (Notes replication, Altiris Notfication/Deployment servers
etc).

I'd like to play with it (I don't really need it, but I'd like to
check it out).

Thanks.


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Re: Account log font

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Clive,

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:44:41 +0100 GMT (11/09/2003, 15:44 +0700 GMT),
Clive Taylor wrote:

> Is it possible to change the font for the account logs? I can't find
> the option anywhere and the default font is difficult to read here.

It seems to follow the font setting in Options / Preferences / Viewer
/ MicroEd.

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Re[2]: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Fernando P. Nájera Cano]

Hi all

LG> Hello Fernando,

LG> Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:02:00 AM, you wrote:
FPNC>> I'm developing a bandwidth limiter for POP3 ...

LG> Is it a plugin? I'm interested only for the fact that it's a really
LG> cool idea. I use bandwidth throttling here at work on many different
LG> things (Notes replication, Altiris Notfication/Deployment servers
LG> etc).

No, it is an independent application. I'm not sure this can be
achieved from inside The Bat!.

LG> I'd like to play with it (I don't really need it, but I'd like to
LG> check it out).

Then I'll do some changes and will tell you how to get it.

LG> Thanks.

You're welcome.

Best regards,

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Re: Specials -> Mailing List

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Pixie,

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 07:16:02 -0400 GMT (11/09/2003, 18:16 +0700 GMT),
Pixie wrote:

> Even when I have select a message from my TBUDL folder, when I pull
> up unsubscribe, TB! will send it with my default email account and
> not the account I use with TBUDL..

I am confused by this. I have one account makred as "Use this account
for URLs", so I think this is what you mean by "default account", but
TB uses the currently active account. What you see is not what I
see...

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Re: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Fernando,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:45:16 AM, you wrote:
FPNC> You're welcome.

Great, looking forward to it. Take your time, I'm not in dire need of
it. 

FPNC> Best regards,
FPNC> Fernando Nájera



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This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without
the signature and list footers since everything below and including 
the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting.

You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter
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Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello Mark,

MW> remember NT 4.0 very well, but maybe it's worth trying to restore this
MW> file from the CAB files?

   I did but is same result.

MW> Also, regarding the beta version you installed... was that a version 2
MW> or 1.6x?

   It was a 1.6x beta. And then I recall the first AV started (the one I did not
   mind, because pressing escape I could go on). But this is interesting:

   I have kept my original 1.62 version (renamed it to keep it). When I run it,
   I have the first AV.

   This means that something is went wrong, where version 1.62 did a non fatal
   AV, and version 2. do a second fatal AV.

   Could it be the amount of mail I have ?  My The bat folder is 200 MB. Maybe
   not ever tested with great amount of mail ?

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Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Alexander]

11-Sep-2003 20:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Could it be the amount of mail I have ?  My The bat folder is 200 MB. Maybe
>not ever tested with great amount of mail ?

Since purge+compress has proven now and then to be a cure for many
problems, have you tried that? (purge+compress all folders, I mean).

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Re[2]: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Fernando P. Nájera Cano]

Hi all

LG> 
LG> Please include a signature delimiter in your messages.
LG> 

Well, the space was there, I have checked it in the folder template
and there is a blank space after "--". So I don't know why doesn't
work. Maybe because I have upgraded to v2?

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Re: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Fernando,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 12:35:57 PM, you wrote:
FPNC> Well, the space was there, I have checked it in the folder
FPNC> template and there is a blank space after "--". So I don't know
FPNC> why doesn't work. Maybe because I have upgraded to v2?

DOH!!! DOH!!! DOH!!!

I formally apologize to you. I'm sorry. I had replied to your message
and just saw the regardsFernando Nájera and since I'm used to
seeing that stuff (see my sig for example) below the cut mark, I
mod'ed the message for sig delimiter. Your sig delimiter is correct
and functioning as it should, it's just below your name.

Again, sorry for the mod'ed post. I was wrong.

Although, just for GPs, putting your regards and name under the
delimiter means we won't have to cut it out when we reply.


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Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello Alexander,

A> Since purge+compress has proven now and then to be a cure for many
A> problems, have you tried that? (purge+compress all folders, I mean).

  Just tryed it, but in most folders it say 'nothing to do' as I have setup all
  my folders to cleanup on exit.  Result is still same...

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Re[3]: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

It seems that Fernando P. Nájera Cano said ...

F> Well, the space was there, I have checked it in the folder template
F> and there is a blank space after "--". So I don't know why doesn't
F> work. Maybe because I have upgraded to v2?

I haven't yet seen the space disappear in v.2, but this is
something I found occasionally in v.1. I think it was operator
error (Who? Me?) in that going to the --(space) line and pressing
END seeks the end of the line (without the terminating space).
The message is then sent without the space.

I have seen no incoming trouts (or threats of trouts) so I guess
my templates are OK. I am now going to tempt fate (and the
moderators) by going to the --(space) line. When I'm there, I
will press END and then I'll send the message. Let's see if that
breaks the line.

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Re[4]: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

It seems that Bill Blinn Technology Editor said ...

B> will press END and then I'll send the message. Let's see if that
B> breaks the line.

Guess not. Oh, well. It was a theory.


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Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello,

  We not get result :(
  Is there files I can safely delete ? i could start with that !

  If that does not help, I could install a second the bat on this machine, see
  if it works normal, then start copying the mail folders one by one (without
  conficuration files).. then start copying configuration files.

  seems a good method to me.. not ?

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Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Alexander]

11-Sep-2003 20:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   seems a good method to me.. not ?

If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility,
completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup.

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Re[2]: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Dave Kennedy]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 2:41:30 PM, Leif wrote:
L> Thursday, September 11, 2003, 12:35:57 PM, you wrote:
L> DOH!!! DOH!!! DOH!!!

L> I formally apologize to you. I'm sorry.

As a recipient of the occasional dead fish, I'm retrieving them
from my super-secret storage location in preparation of a return
to sender. Phew! They really smell bad now! :)

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Re: A new utility - POP3 bandwidth limiter

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Dave,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:24:18 PM, you wrote:
DK> As a recipient of the occasional dead fish, I'm retrieving them
DK> from my super-secret storage location in preparation of a return
DK> to sender. Phew! They really smell bad now! :)

We (the moderators) have already got that angle covered, we spoofed
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Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello Alexander,

A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility,
A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup.

  Ok thanks. It is a pretty that I dont know exact meaning and content of some
  files.  I see there is data and index and configuration files, but dont know
  what to delete and when it is safe. should be more easy :)

  I will try tomorrow and let you know. thanks for all advice of course.

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Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Mark Wieder]

Wilfried-

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:44:57 AM, you wrote:

WM>   Just tryed it, but in most folders it say 'nothing to do' as I have setup all
WM>   my folders to cleanup on exit.  Result is still same...

While we're on the subject, how about Folder | Maintenance | Check
Integrity/Repair? That's cleared up some stuff for me before.

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Re[2]: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Wilfried Mestdagh]

Hello Alexander,

A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility,
A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup.

  while I agree completely with your advice there is something to concider:
  suppose (probably) it works then, nobody will ever know what the problem was.
  i'm a developer myself and I should hate this :(

  I like to get down to problems and know the reason... Tomorrow or some while
  later someone else has also an AV

  The sorry thing is that the TECH and BETA lists is not very helpfull. I had
  expect at least a developer is once a while looking at it But the talk
  in those lists is more in anti virus and other silly things... not mutch
  tech there :(

  I wants to know that the help in this list is great !

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Re: Access violation in Account - Properties

[Mark Wieder]

Alexander-

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 12:21:03 PM, you wrote:

A> If I were you, I'd rather make a backup with the internal backup utility,
A> completely remove TB, and then do a fresh re-install, restoring the backup.

Ditto. The internal backup will *probably* save all the registry
setting, too, but I'd back them up just to be safe, then delete them
when prompted by the uninstall process.

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how to recover mail from part0001.bin?

[Samson]

Hello tbudl,

for some reason my message.tbb (of a POP account) got corrupted this
morning and many mails in inbox got lost. i tried folder/maintainance
and repair the folder. it didn't get me back those missing mails.
however it created a "part0001.bin" file in the mail folder.

my question is, is it possible to recover mail back from part0001.bin?
i tried to rename it to message.tbb but nothing shows up.

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wrapping cookies problem

[David Boggon]

Trying to wrap cookies using the following macro:

%WRAPPED='%COOKIE="C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt"'

but all I get is the following where the cookie should be:

Cannot open file "C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt"

Take away the [%WRAPPED=''] and it works fine.

can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong...

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Re: wrapping cookies problem

[Mark Adams]

Hi David,

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 9:39:26 PM, you wrote:

DB> %WRAPPED='%COOKIE="C:\Program Files\The
DB> Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt"'

DB> but all I get is the following where the cookie should be:

DB> Cannot open file "C:\Program Files\The
DB> Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt"

Try with the quotes the other way round!


%WRAPPED="%COOKIE='t:\the bat\quotes.txt'"

works here!


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Re: wrapping cookies problem

[Bill Blinn Technology Editor]

At 4:39 PM on 9/11/2003, David Boggon typed ...

D> Trying to wrap cookies using the following macro:

D> %WRAPPED='%COOKIE="C:\Program Files\The
D> Bat!\MAIL\Templates\cookies.txt"'

Maybe TB likes " to contain ' and not the other way around. I use the
following:

Random thought: %Wrapped="%COOKIE='D:\BatMail\cookie.txt'"

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Re: wrapping cookies problem

[David Boggon]

Hi Mark,

you wrote:

MA> Try with the quotes the other way round!

MA> %WRAPPED="%COOKIE='t:\the bat\quotes.txt'"

yes have ...

Just found the problem ... the file-path had run on to 2 lines ...
putting it back solved the problem.

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Re: RSS Feeds via IMAP

[Allen]

Terry,
T> http://rss.blogstreet.com/asp-rssbin/quicktour_asp-rss/

T> Does anyone have any experience with using this?

I  imagine this is some thing we should take OT but, I will say that I
do  use  it,  and with reasonable success.  TB! 2's IMAP support to be
thanks, it's quite nice.  My only complaint would be [and here's where
it  starts  to fall notably OT] that its updates are a bit slower than
they  would  be if you were using a regular aggregator.  I like having
it in TB, though, so I stick with it.

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Some feature requests

[Ricardo van Eck]

Hello all,

  Novell made there GroupWise API's available for other software
  developers. A GroupWise plugin for The Bat! would be great! When I
  can connect The Bat! to a GroupWise Server I don't need two
  clients anymore (GroupWise client and The Bat!) And since GroupWise
  is the second most used Enterprise Collaboration solution it should
  be wanted by more batters (I think)

  Also a Linux version of The Bat! (ok, this isn't a small request) :)

  I want to drop Windows, but The Bat! is keeping me from doing that. I
  read that The Bat! under Wine isn't that great. Maybe some other
  Batters have tried this?

  Last request. I'd like to see a Calender, like there was in some
  previous beta's. That calender should have CAP support. (Calender
  Access Protocol). It a new protocol that most calender, e-mail
  client developers are going to use. (except MS because of marketing
  reasons). It lets you send appointment and other calender stuff
  between different e-mail clients. Very neat :)

  Until now, only GroupWise 6 and 6.5 supports it, but more are coming!

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Re: Re-filtering

[Allie Martin]

Razgo, [R] wrote:

R> for some reason when using re-filter for my inbox it will not filter
R> all the messages that need filtering. it will filter all but only
R> process 13 or 19 and i have to keep re filtering it. currently using
R> 2.00.6 but it has been occurring with all versions i use.

If this has been happening from the outset and isn't something that
started after things were working OK, then it could just be that some of
the filters are set to manual only.

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Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

[Allie Martin]

David R. Austen, [DRA] wrote:

DRA> I am now using Januk Aggarwal's excellent wrap templates

DRA> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap
DRA> (%QINCLUDE="wq")

DRA> for (replies and forwards) and also hope to accomplish wrapping on
DRA> redirects, too. (Ideas?) FWIW, I use redirect frequently to modify
DRA> a subject line. With a two-letter nickname for addressees, I can
DRA> redirect pretty quickly.

Unfortunately, redirects mess up the headers that could contain
important information for future reference.

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Re: v2 compatible with older version?

[Allie Martin]

Mau, [M] wrote:

M> Agree, but it has always been my policy (for any software I use for
M> work) to NOT upgrade as soon as a new version is released. I usually
M> wait until it is a bit more "polished" and stable :)

Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have
trouble recalling anytime when only bug fixing occurs between versions.
Usually new features are being added. So there's never really a time
when you can say that a particular version contains features that
have all been tested for a long time and fully debugged.

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Re[2]: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

[Vishal]

Hi Allie

Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 8:30:23 PM, you wrote:

AM> If you have your own domain, you can accurately tell, based on the
AM> In-Reply-To header which messages are direct replies to yours.

Useful. I remember a thread in which this was discussed earlier. I'll keep it in
mind for when I do get my own domain. Thanks for the tip.

Cheers,

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Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:43:13 AM, Vishal wrote:

V> Thanks a lot Anne! I'll try it out and let you know.


Vishal,

Another snippet which may help track down the problem... Melvyn
who has the problem like you in using Win 2000 + SP3... _but_
Daniel also on TBBETA is using Win 2000 +Service Pack 4 Build
2195 and his auto checking is working fine... s. the next
question is... what Service Pack/s have you installed with your Win
2000? If it's SP3 then perhaps installing SP4 will resolve the
problem?

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Re: expanding the height of the message header field?

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 2:52:38 AM, Pixie wrote:

P> They will not become active unless you're highlighting a header that
P> you have added.


Ahhh right... so I can't edit existing headers, just new ones?
Thanks!

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Re: Some feature requests

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Ricardo,

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:05:07 +0200 GMT (12/09/2003, 06:05 +0700 GMT),
Ricardo van Eck wrote:

>   Novell made there GroupWise API's available for other software
>   developers. A GroupWise plugin for The Bat! would be great!

Good idea. Add it to the wishlist, which you will find at
www.ritlabs.com/bt. After you have created your login, you can switch
the "project" to wishlist.

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Re: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[Sean H .]

On 9/11/03 at 10:03 AM, Christopher LaFond wrote:

CL> Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
CL> Service Pack 1

CL> Since I changed to v.2, the one account that I have which is IMAP
CL> freezes the program most (but not all) of the time when I click on
CL> the Inbox. The program stops responding. message and it freezes
CL> then too.

OK, since nobody seems to have ideas about what's going on, I'll chime
in. I use a different Windows version than Christopher (see my sig),
but I also experience IMAP operations freezing TB! I promptly stopped
using IMAP in TB! after 3 or 4 freezes, so I can't offer a specific
diagnosis of what causes it, but the problem certainly isn't unique to
Christopher. I hope the developers are aware of this.

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Dial-Up, TB and Firewalls

[malexander]

Hi

Just a point I wanted to make as I've seen one or two comments where
people have said with The Bat, and with dial-up, they don't need a
firewall.

Sorry, but you're leaving yourself open if you don't use at least a
software firewall, even with a dial-up.  I have dial-up ISDN, and
anyone who thinks they won't get attacked if they have a dial-up
connection is welcome to look at some of the logs from my Outpost
firewall.

It doesn't take very long for  someone to grab a port and do some
damage.

So, if you've got dial-up, still get the firewall and be safe.

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 7:28:38 AM, Clive wrote:

CT> I had the same problem and found that I could get MyGate to
CT> work only by setting the local port to 110 in both TB and
CT> MyGate (NNTP on 119). Any other combinations just wouldn't
CT> work.


Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-(

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Re: Odd mini Bat2 Bug with window minimisation

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 11:04:04 AM, znark wrote:

z> Sorry that this is a bit OT but, try these also:

z> WinKey + E   Explorer
z> WinKey + R   Run Dialog
z> WinKey + F   Search Dialog
z> WinKey + D   Show Desktop
z> WinKey + L   Switch User (Win XP)


Thanks again... I know most of these (not the last as I use 98
not XP) but the maximise windows had defeated me ;-)

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Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Anne]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 8:09:37 AM, MAU wrote:

M> On the POP3>NNTP gate, have you tried increasing the Timeout (default to
M> 10 secs) on the NNTP Tab?


Yes Miguel, I changed all timeouts in MyGate to 30 and it's made
no difference :-(

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Re: Macros in V2

[Robin Anson]

Thanks Carsten

On Thu 11 September 2003, 10:32:13 +1000, Carsten Thönges wrote:
> * Robin Anson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> I have a useful quick template created at some stage by Carsten Thönges
>> that allows me to include blank lines in the quoted text in my reply
>> template. Unfortunately this breaks in v2.
> 
> This is the new version:



> HTH.

Yes, it did. The other question I have is where can I find
documentation on the new macro functionality?

Robin

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Re[2]: v. 2 IMAP freezes program

[Christopher LaFond]

Hello Sean,

CL>> Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build  2600
CL>> Service Pack 1


SH> ...I promptly stopped using IMAP in TB! after 3 or 4 freezes, so I
SH> can't offer a specific diagnosis of what causes it, but the
SH> problem certainly isn't unique to Christopher. I hope the
SH> developers are aware of this.

The last day or so has been fine now. But then this has happened
before, it's fine for a bit, and then it goes back to freezing. If it
froze all the time, I wouldn't bother, since the one IMAP account I
have is for work. But it's stringing me along just enough to keep my
hopes up.



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Re:MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Clive Taylor]

Hi Anne,

> Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-(

It's not your authorisation details for the news server, is it? That's
the only other area that could be wrong, as far as I can see.
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Re[2]: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

[Terry]

Hi Anne,

You wrote:

>> Thanks Clive - I tried this and it still won't work for me :-(

Another suggestion - I initially put 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost in
TB. It wouldn't work until I changed it to localhost.  Is yours set to
localhost?

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