Re: 5.8.10 OK to use on Win 7 64 bit?
Mark Partous wrote: > Hello Chris, > > Friday, July 18, 2014, 4:42:56 PM, you wrote: > >> Without thinking I moved TB! to my new Windows 7 Pro 64 bit machine >> from an elderly XP Pro 32 bit PC. Whilst TB! appears to work fine I >> would like reassurance it will be happy long term on a 64 bit OS. >> Thanks. > > No problems so far (since the beginning of this year). > I should try the newer version one of these days though, but still afraid I > might > lose some things/settings. Hi I've just done the self same and all works OK. However, by chance I've found that TB! isn't picking up all my emails. They are all there on the server, I've even reset the missing ones as unread but it still won't see them. All my other clients like my iphone see them no bother. I'm using POP3 where my iphone is set up as IMAP. Any pointers would be gratefully received. Regards Barry Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and attachments
Barry wrote: > With the current version I have decided to revisit IMAP4 mail handling. It > all seems to be working quite well other than handling attachments. > A attachments are received as 'part.att' Just to follow up, I asked this question previously and Marck suggested I check the message source, which I did and all seems as it should, so I am of the opinion that for whatever reason TB isn't handling the attachment correctly. Or maybe I have an incorrect setting? Thanks Barry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and attachments
Hi With the current version I have decided to revisit IMAP4 mail handling. It all seems to be working quite well other than handling attachments. A attachments are received as 'part.att' which means I can't open them with their default programs. I can, however, save the attached file and rename it with the correct file extension which seems to work. Any suggestions how I can repair this odd behaviour? I am using V5.3.8 with Windows 7 Many thanks Barry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and attachments
Marck Pearlstone wrote: > Dear Barry, > > @10-Feb-2013, 12:32 Barry [B] in > mid:1772226291382191934.999080gmane-kentra.co...@news.gmane.org > said: > > ... > software vendor and they can throw no light on it, so I'm starting to > suspect TheBat! And IMAP. When I used POP3 it was never an issue. > > Any ideas? > > My first and most likely suspect in this instance would be the IMAP > server software. When in IMAP mode, The Bat! can only show you what the > server tells it is available. I know that attachments I receive come > through exactly as I would expect them. > > You should inspect the message source and check the headers in the > attachment section of the message, which should include some of e.g. > > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="part.att" > Content-Description: part.att Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="part.att"; size=; > > This would demonstrate that the server configuration is at fault by > forcing an inappropriate attachment name. > > -- > Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user > TB! v5.3.6.2 (BETA) on Windows 7 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Dear Mark Well, yes I would agree were it not for the fact that my iPhone (which is also using IMAP) works as intended, so I'm of the opinion that it is TheBat! that is not getting things quite right. But I'll take a look at the headers in any event. Thanks for the tip. Barry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and attachments
Hi My office fax system sends an email out when a fax is either sent or received. The fax is attached as a PDF file. Recently since I've moved over to IMAP I've noticed that the attachment is always named 'part.att' when it should be of the form .pdf. If I save and rename the attachment with a .pdf extension I can view the file but it seems an unnecessary action. I have checked with the fax software vendor and they can throw no light on it, so I'm starting to suspect TheBat! And IMAP. When I used POP3 it was never an issue. Any ideas? Thanks Barry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Transfer from old to new PC
Hi all I'm setting up a new PC and I intend to use IMAP. So far so good but I would like to transfer all my settings from my old setup without any emails. I've installed 5.3.6.0 on the new machine and IMAP seems so far to be working well. My old system was based around POP3 and will serve as a backup of old mail. Is there a straight forward way to do this? TIA Barry Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another filter question
On 31/05/2011 21:09:38, Barry wrote: > Thomas Fernandez wrote: >> Hello Barry, >> On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT), >> Barry wrote: >>> This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped >>> functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is >>> moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked >>> with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked. >>> Any ideas? Or is it another bug? >> There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the >> beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that >> some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work >> correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix. >> (I myself stick with v4 for this reason.) >> Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am >> trying to find your exact problem, so far without success. > I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP > account. Hi Thomas The problem seems to lie with the action of parking the message. If I remove that action from the filter then all works OK. If I include the action to park the message then the original message remains in the Inbox with the Park flag set. So I guess it's a buglet? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Another filter question
Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Barry, > > On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:35:05 +0100 GMT (31/May/11, 20:35 PM +0700 GMT), > Barry wrote: > >> This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped >> functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is >> moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked >> with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked. > >> Any ideas? Or is it another bug? > > There have been reports of bugs in the filtering system of v5 on the > beta list. However, they are no reliably reproducable, meaning that > some people report a problem, and other people say the filters work > correctly. Soi it's difficult for the developers to pinpoint and fix. > (I myself stick with v4 for this reason.) > > Are you using POP or IMAP? I just browsed the bug reports and am > trying to find your exact problem, so far without success. I use both POP and IMAP accounts, but in this case I am using a POP account. Barry Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another filter question
Hi I have a filter that has been in use for many years that filters all emails addressed to a specific address, it moves them to a folder marks the message as Read and then Parks it. This has worked well for a long time but since the upgrade to V5 has stopped functioning properly, it's almost as if the message is parked before it is moved so I end up with the original in the Inbox marked as Read and Parked with a copy being put in the other folder also marked as Read and Parked. Any ideas? Or is it another bug? The actions are: Move to the folder \\Barry\Fax Server\Received Mark the message as read Mark the message as parked. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.12 Filters
On 11/05/2011 11:37:40, Roelof Otten wrote: > You're not the only one, though I haven't got that problem myself. Thanks Roelof that makes me feel a whole lot better! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
5.0.12 Filters
Hi, Is it me or have filters stopped working in V5? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.12 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Near disaster averted with 5.0.8
On 14/04/2011 12:07:12, Marek Mikus wrote: > one user reported something similar and as we checked this, message base > stayed on drive, but in different folder name - translated one. For > example Inbox messages appeared in "Prichozi" folder, what is czech > translation of Inbox. This translation is used in program and not for real > folder name, but maybe some problem appeared and real folder name was > changed even folder name in program not. I've checked and can't find any folders with unusual names. Everything seems OK now so I'll just keep my backups up to date and keep my eye on it! BTW in a previous post I mentioned that 5.0.8 seems to grab a lot of CPU time. Could this be down to the 16,000+ messages in my inbox? It wasn't a problem with V4 -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.8 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Near disaster averted with 5.0.8
On 15/04/2011 07:39:56, The Janitor wrote: > 15 April 2011 - 07:38 > Thursday, April 14, 2011, 11:30:28 AM, you wrote: > You have 16,000 messages in your inbox? 16.000? I know, I know, going all the way back to 2005. I suppose I should have a tidy up! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.8 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Near disaster averted with 5.0.8
Hi Now I don't know how this came about, but thank goodness for backups! I installed 5.0.8 last weekend, unbeknown to me there is an option in the Additional Folder Properties to Remove Old Messages on Exit. This box was ticked, I am positive I didn't tick it, but the other two options to designate either the maximum number of stored messages or the number of days to keep messages in the base were NOT ticked. Nonetheless all my messages in the Inbox were removed the first time I exited V5.0.8, all 16,000 of them! Worryingly I couldn't recover them by browsing deleted messages they had vanished forever. Thankfully my weekly system backup had the message base file intact so it turned out to be a relatively simple process to import the message base for that folder. Needless to say I've been through ALL the folder properties to make sure the option is unticked, but as to how got ticked in the first place is a bit of a mystery. Be warned! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 5.0.8 and AntispamSniper 3.2.6.4 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade to V5.0.8
Hi After installing V5 I've noticed that TheBat uses up to 98% of the CPU during start up. It seems to be related to some extent to the number of virtual folders, and drags my PC down to a crawl. Has anyone else seen this? Does anyone know of a way to overcome this, or is it just a matter of waiting for a better release? I'm using XPSP3 with 1.5GB of RAM Best regards Barry Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't save message file...
Hi Can anyone offer any suggestion why I am getting this error message whilst I'm receiving mail? "!24/02/2010, 10:33:05: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Barry\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat4286.tmp)" I've checked the TEMP folder in question, it's by no means full, probably about 50 files amounting to a few hundred KB -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.2.23 and AntispamSniper 3.2.2.1 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Out of Memory?
On 30/01/2009 09:37:35, Susanne wrote: >> My first response was to upgrade to the >> latest version 4.1.11, but I >> don't know whether your license allows for that. > I'm not sure if it will. Have to check into it. > TB has been rolling along smoothly up till now, so > I haven't checked into the latest updates. >> When do you get the error, with a specific >> account, with a specific >> action? > I've noticed it related to trying to print a > message. TB stops responding, and then gives the > "out of memory' error whenever I click on > anything. >> When was the last time you did a full >> purge and compress for your >> complete message base? > I have TB set to purge and compress at shutdown, > so it's been very recently. If you've noticed it whilst trying to print a message, I wonder if your 'temp' folder is full of redundant files and needs clearing out. I had a similar problem earlier this week with another program that was falling over 'out of memory'. My temp folder was full of 'tmp' files. I'm guessing that when TB is printing it spools to the temp folder. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.9 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Counter Error
On 30/01/2009 09:02:00, Roelof Otten wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:17:07 GMTGMT (29-1-2009, 16:17 +0100, where I > live), you wrote: > B> My unread message counter seems to have got itself in a mess. This is > on a > B> POP3 account all messages are deleted off the server, all messages are > m arked > B> as read (not bold) but the unread message counter reads '-1', with one > B> message unread it reads '0', two unread '1', etc > Can you point to a specific folder that has the count off? Or is it > just the account? > My suggestion would be to find the bad folder, move all messages to a > different folder and then delete the messages.* files belonging to the > miscreant folder. Thank you Roelof, the act of creating a temporary folder was sufficient to reset the counter so thankfully I didn't have to do any more that just delete the temporary folder I had just created! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.9 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Message Counter Error
Hi all My unread message counter seems to have got itself in a mess. This is on a POP3 account all messages are deleted off the server, all messages are marked as read (not bold) but the unread message counter reads '-1', with one message unread it reads '0', two unread '1', etc I've done folder maintenance, eveything checks OK, but with all messages read it still reads '-1' Any suggestions how to reset the counter? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.9 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Message Template
Hi A number of my programs have a menu option to send a new mail message using the default email program (in my case TheBat! 4.1) with the current document as an attachment. This seems to work in most cases other than the default new message template isn't used and I am presented with a blank window. Is there any way to make TB start with the new message template every time or is it limited only to new messages started from within TB? Although I have a number of accounts I do have one selected as the default for mailto: URLs -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.1.7 and AntispamSniper 3.0.1.2 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Search System for TheBat!
On 06/07/2008 20:51:12, Jens Franik wrote: > And the Price is 30,- to 45,- Euro - did you forget to mention this? Hi Jens No, it's not for me to sell the product just to let other users know that it works. All the pricing information is available on the web site. Interested people can make their own decisions on the value for money. For me I was very happy to pay what I considered a fair price after trialling the program for free. After all it works as described, there's plenty of paid for software out there that doesn't deliver. IMAP??? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.24 and AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Search System for TheBat!
Hi all Some of you may be interested in a Search Program that I stumbled across the other day. I was looking for a program to search all my thousands of WordPerfect files and I came across Archivarius. The bonus for me was that it also indexes and searches all my TB! mailboxes. It's really good and fast! http://www.likasoft.com/document-search/ -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.24 and AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Mail with links to Graphics
On 03/07/2008 18:41:11, Rick wrote: >> Hi Barry, > > B>> However, I've noticed that retrieving the graphics quite often slows > to a B>> crawl, the connection manager regularly reports download speeds > for the URL B>> 'links' as low as 15-30 cps, with TB! 'not responding' > until the graphics or B>> whatever have been downloaded in full. > > B>> I suspected AntiSpamSniper for a while but switching that off didn't > seem to B>> make any difference. > >> AntispamSniper definitely slows the process down, at least for me. > > B>> Can any one suggest any way that I might improve the speed of this > process. > >> Not really, except don't use AntispamSniper, which I am considering. > > Hmmm I LIKE antispamsniper. I used antispam servant until it turned > into adware even when you paid for it > Well, I've disabled/removed ASS and it hasn't made any improvement at all, downloading links in HTML mail slows to a crawl, almost to the point of freezing TB!, clicking on any part of TB's window causes the mouse pointer to change to an hourglass and most times "not responding" pops up in the Title Bar. After a while the links complete loading and then everything gets back to normal. So, for now, I'm not convinced that ASS has anything to do with it. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.24 and AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML Mail with links to Graphics
Hi Since using V4 I've been allowing myself to receive some HTML mail in full using the URL manager to allow only known senders. However, I've noticed that retrieving the graphics quite often slows to a crawl, the connection manager regularly reports download speeds for the URL 'links' as low as 15-30 cps, with TB! 'not responding' until the graphics or whatever have been downloaded in full. I suspected AntiSpamSniper for a while but switching that off didn't seem to make any difference. Can any one suggest any way that I might improve the speed of this process. Apart from blocking HTML! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.24 and AntispamSniper 2.8.1.1 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On 26/03/2008 16:18:02, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: > Try double-clicking the titlebar of undocked toolbars. Well, I don't know how but I've managed to get everything stuck back in place. What a performance! I'll wait for the next public release now... Thanks. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On 26/03/2008 16:13:35, Volker Ahrendt wrote: > It's known and already resolved issue. Just take the latest version of > The Bat! Hi Volker I guess 4.0.18.6 is a beta, if I select "Check for update" I just get "No updates available" At least it's a known fault. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Tha Bat as default mailprogramm
On 25/03/2008 21:02:44, Patrick wrote: > still getting "Could not perform this operation because the default > mail client is not properly installed" when clicking on a 'mailto' > link Hi Patrick This is what I would try: 1. In The Bat! Account Properties for your default mail account, pick the 'General' Tab and make sure that "This account is the default for "mailto:"; URLS" is ticked. 2. Start IE7 go to "Tools", "Internet Options", "Programs". If The Bat! is shown as the E-mail service change it to something else, restart IE7 and change it back to The Bat!, or if it isn't TheBat! make sure it is! This has always worked for me, but I can't vouch for Vista... -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undocked Toolbars!
Yikes! I don't know how I've managed it but all my toolbars are undocked. i can drag and dock them to both sides and the bottom, but there's no way that I can get them to stick (or even attempt to stick) to the top of the window under the menu. Any suggestions gratefully received. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Time Zone Conversion Error?
On 12/02/2008 09:43:46, Robin Anson wrote: > It is a function of TB, but it looks from the above as though it is > not correctly formatted in the original message itself. To check, > highlight the message and then press CTRL-SHIFT-K to show the > headers. Then find the header that starts with "Date:", copy the > entire line and paste in an email for us to see. The format should be > Date: DDD, DD MMM HH:mm:ss ZZZ Date: 11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET So how does this compare with your template? > If the problem is an incorrect format, you can export the file to a > unix mailbox format, edit the format to correct it and then re-import > the message. If you are more daring you could edit the messages.tbb > file in the appropriate mail folder directly, but that is more risky. I don't really want to be messing about editing incoming emails, if the conversion is an error with the sender's data, then I'll inform them. On the other hand if the problem is with TheBat! then it needs reporting as a bug, I guess? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.14 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Time Zone Conversion Error?
Hi all I'm trying to figure whether the 'Created' date conversion from one time zone to the other is a Bat problem. This is the Created Date field data: 14 January 2000, 23:09:00 (11-Feb-2008 15:42:09 CET) I'm assuming that the email is created in the CET time zone, hence the date in brackets, and that the date shown as "14 January 2000, 23:09:00" is the date converted to my time zone, which should be GMT. Is this a function of Windows, TheBat! or a bit of both? How do I get it to show the correct date? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.14 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.5 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Struggling with IMAP
On 16/06/2007 00:03:27, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > Do you have high speed. If you do then you can set your IMAP accounts > to sync the full messages. My IMAP accounts work almost the same as > POP when selecting messages. Hi Stuart Yes I do have high speed. It seems to me that if I there are mails on the server that have been read previously by another PC they seem to be flagged as read on the server and then when I check them with TB! it only downloads the header (even though I have it set to download the full message) and the envelope icon is greyed out. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Struggling with IMAP
Hi I'm trying to get to grips with IMAP instead of POP3 I'm struggling at the moment, the headers download OK but when I click on a message to download the body nothing happens. Can anyone suggest why this happens? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.99.3 and AntispamSniper 2.5.0.2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP Folder management Broken?
Hi I'm using 3.98.04 I can't get IMAP folder management to work. Specifically I can't create folders, neither root or sub Can anyone else confirm this behaviour? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.98.04 and AntispamSniper 2.0.0.4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "If..then..else" in macros
On 20/02/2007 15:12:31, Roelof Otten wrote: > %If:"%AccountName"=3D"BJH":"%AttachPath=3D'File1'":"%AttachPath=3D'File2'"%- Thanks Roelof, just the job! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"If..then..else" in macros
Hi all Is there an If..then construct in the macros? I would like to set up a macro that checks for the account being used in a new message or a reply and then based on the account include a particular file. I've tried using the address book but the problem i seems to be that TB uses the first name found in the address book and in my setup I have the same name and email address for several entries. But they are used in different accounts so if I could tie to the account rather than the name it would work for me, I think? e.g. In Account 1 I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include file1 In Account 2 I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include file2 Look forward to seeing your responses. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Sigs are getting bigger than my messages!
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:44:03 +0100, MAU wrote: > This is ridiculous! > There is a nice workaround though, don't sign your messages! :) So are the majority of European Directives (including the currency) but that's as far OT as I'll go! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: My Sigs are getting bigger than my messages!
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:45:45 +0100, Mark Partous wrote: > - add the textfile as an attachment with every mail with the macro > %ATTACHFILE="c:\legalinfo.txt"%- > , but, if it's legally allowed, > - I would go for an additional line in your signature, > containing an url f.i. > for address & other legal information, see: www.kentra.co.uk/legalinfo.html > If change is needed it suffices to update that page only. That's a good suggestion Mark, I don't know whether that would be allowable or not. I have had a play around and I think the %attachfile route is the simplest for me. At least all the 'legalease' rests in one place! I've just pulled this off the web: *** The Companies (Registrar, Languages and Trading Disclosure) Regulations 2006 requires every company email signature should include: Company name and geographic address, including both the trading and registered names if these are different. Both the trading address and the registered office address must be given. Company registration number and place of registration (e.g. company registered in England and Wales) If a business is a member of a trade or professional association, membership details (including any registered number) should be shown. If the business has a VAT number it should be stated (prefixed with GB if it trades outside the UK) *** -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
My Sigs are getting bigger than my messages!
Hi all Some of you may be aware of the recent change in UK Company law that requires certain information to be included on web sites and in emails, viz: "Every company needs to list its company registration number, place of registration and registered office address on its website and in emails." Now that's OK, but I have a number of different signatures in my address book for specific contacts and groups. Keeping on top of these changes is in danger of becoming a major task! What I would like to do is have a central location (a small text file perhaps?) that contains this required information that is automatically added to the end of every email on an account basis. Can this be done? If it can, how? I look forward to your suggestions! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.95.06 and AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Weird addressbook problem
Roelof Otten wrote: That's duplicate enough to cause problems. With regard to duplicate email addresses. I have a customer who uses his Secretary's email address so that all emails to him are filtered by her. I sometimes need to email her individually so I have two address book entries for two separate people, but each have the same email address. I take it that this causes problems in TB!? I wouldn't have thought that this was that uncommon, even in today's world I guess people still share an email address in much the same way as people share a postal address? So perhaps this is a shortcoming of TB!? -- Best regards Barry. Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB erroneously checks mail at startup
Alexander S. Kunz wrote: That doesn't happen here. I am using a periodic check for my two accounts, but TB does not automatically check them on startup (the checkbox is not ticked). OK, well I have three accounts on my setup and it definitely exhibits this behaviour, and has done since 3.85. I might try a 'clean' install when I get a minute... -- Barry Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB erroneously checks mail at startup
Robin Anson wrote: Well, that's similar, except that mine doesn't ALWAYS check on startup. It only does it about 50% of the time. Perhaps this is a bug that's crept in with 3.85? I thought that it was me at first because one could argue that if an interval was set then the account should be checked automatically on startup and thereafter at the interval specified. For me I expected the first check to be carried out after the first interval. Then if I wanted a check on startup I could ask for that. What do you think? Barry. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB erroneously checks mail at startup
Robin Anson wrote: I have all of my accounts set to NOT check mail at startup, and yet on about 50% of the times I start TB, all accounts check. This started with version 3.85, when I set ONE account to check at startup, and yet about 50% of the time, all of them checked. So I turned check mail at startup off, however the problem still occurs. Upgrading to 3.95 has made no difference. Does anyone else experience this? Do you have TB! set to check accounts automatically at intervals? I used to have no check on start up, followed by check at 15min; and 15min after start up my accounts would then be checked automatically. After a recent upgrade this changed so that even with "check on startup" off TB! would still check accounts on startup if a check interval was set. So I turned them all off and check when I remember! ;) HTH Barry Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:36:25 -0600, Chris W. wrote: > Unless your local computer is the mail host for kentra.co.uk, you don't > want to identify yourself as kentra.co.uk. Something like your > computer's name or the-randomly-assigned-name-given-you-by.your-isp.com > would work better. > Have you been having problems? If not, I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks Chris, now I understand...I never was worried, just intrigued. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone explain HELO to me?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 01:45:32 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: >> Hmmm. I'd regard that as problematic just as well. My IP address is >> dynamic and has nothing to do with the mail relayer that is set for my >> domain. A reverse lookup in the HELO state would fail. > But still it's what it's supposed to do. The EHLO should give a domain > name that identifies the client system. > On your LAN to your local mail server that can be your computer name, as > it's likely that that will point to the right computer (it does on my > LAN), but when you're talking to something else you should give a domain > name or a literal address. My knowledge on this subject is 'nil', hence my original post. However, my newsreader (Dialog) has an 'Advanced SMTP Settings' dialog which allows the user to specifically set the SMTP HELO identification. If it is left blank then the local computer name is used. To me that seems a good solution? In my case shouldn't HELO be kentra.co.uk? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can someone explain HELO to me?
Hi all Looking at headers from TB I can see Helo=Office Office is the "Full Computer Name" of my XP desktop machine. Does TB! decide this? Why? Can I decide what this should be? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and IMAP
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:15:57 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> With my IMAP accounts the connection centre never hides, is this >> because TB is listening for new mails all the time? > Yes. Hi Alexander Not necessarily, I've discovered that setting the "When inactive disconnect after" value in Mail Management properties allows the connection centre to disappear after all. I've gone for 15 secs. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and IMAP
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:15:57 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > That depends on your preference. :-) Hi Alexander Fair enough ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre and IMAP
Hi I have the Connection Centre visibility set to 'Automatic' which with my POP3 acounts works as I envisaged, i.e. it disappears when not in use. With my IMAP accounts the connection centre never hides, is this because TB is listening for new mails all the time? What is the popular setting for the connection centre with IMAP accounts? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %OATTACHMENTS - can you list one filename per line instead of comma-separated?
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:50:38 +1100, Robin Anson wrote: > This one works for me: > > -- [ AttList Quick Template] -- > %If:"%_FirstTime"=""%- >:#%- > %_FirstTime="No"%- > %If:"%Attachments"=""%- >:""%- >:"Attachments: > %_Att_List='%Attachments,'%- > %Qinclude(AttList)"#%- >:#%- > %If:"%_Att_List"<>""%- >:"%- > %SetPattRegexp='(?i)^(.*?),\s*(.*)$'%- > %RegexpBlindMatch='%_Att_List'%- >* %SubPatt='1' > %_Att_List=%SubPatt='2'%- > %Qinclude(AttList)"%- >:#%- > [ End AttList Quick Template] Thanks Robin, just the job -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %OATTACHMENTS - can you list one filename per line instead of comma-separated?
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:52:24 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > M> I notice both have a TB!v2 version; presumably that's the one for > M> v3 also? > Yes, the difference is between v1 and v2 as there were some changes in > the macro stuff between those versions. I'm confused, I too would like a list of attachments 'line by line' so I tried the macros you suggested and I just get a comma separated list same as before. I'm sure I must be missing something but I can't see what! I invoke the macro with after inserting the attachments. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Concurrent Connections?
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:16:10 +0700, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > Hello Barry, > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:51:49 + GMT (14/11/2006, 16:51 +0700 GMT), > Barry wrote: > > B> I've managed to convince myself that TB! used to check my 3 mail accounts > B> simultaneously. > > I check 13 accounts simultaneously. > > B> Now they get checked one after the other. > > B> Did I dream this, or am I missing a setting somewhere, or is it down to XP? > > What happens when you look at the Connection Centre? Do you see one > account checked, and when finished the next account starts? I don't > see that over here, I'm just trying to understand what you mean by > "one after the other". Hi Thomas, The three accounts aren't checked simultaneously, i.e one after the other. ;) So account 1 first, when that's completed account 2, and finally after account 2 then account 3. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Concurrent Connections?
Hi I've managed to convince myself that TB! used to check my 3 mail accounts simultaneously. Now they get checked one after the other. Did I dream this, or am I missing a setting somewhere, or is it down to XP? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access Violation
Hi I seem to keep getting this Access Violation when starting TB! "Access Violation at address 00404C92 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address " It doesn't seem to impair the operation of TB, clicking 'OK' allows the program to continue to run. It's just annoying. Any ideas? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.80.06 and AntspamSniper 1.6.1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bat Scheduler and Backups
OK, I've managed to avert disaster and recovered by judicious file copying from my last tape backup. And I've now created a Bat Backup using the inbuilt backup routine, I ought to know better really! Now I've discovered that TheBat can process automated backups using the Scheduler. Brilliant! Thing is, does TheBat Scheduler require the full Bat application to be running or does it run as a separate 'service' in the background? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and BayesIt 0.8.4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Creation Error?
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:23:51 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > Folders (and their templates) are stored in account.flb (.efb for > OTFE) Each account has its own file, common folders are stored in the > file in the mail directory. > Quick templates are stored in account.qtn (.etn for OTFE) each account > has its own file. Thanks Roelof, that's exactly what I was after. However, I can't find the file that contains the default templates for new, reply, forward, etc. I've installed all my quick templates but can't find the default templates. account.flb doesn't seem to contain that information I'm doing this selectively because I suffered a massive screw up last week and I'm trying not to reintroduce the cause. ;) So far so good. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and BayesIt 0.8.4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Creation Error?
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:33:52 +, Barry wrote: > OK, I took a 'sledgehammer' to it and did a clean install. I'm slowly > building message bases back together but I could do with some help with > regard to file names and locations for things like quick templates, etc. so > I can retrieve them individually from my last tape backup. > > All help gratefully received! Can anyone help with TB! file names and locations? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and BayesIt 0.8.4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Creation Error?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:31:32 +, BJH wrote: > What more can I do? OK, I took a 'sledgehammer' to it and did a clean install. I'm slowly building message bases back together but I could do with some help with regard to file names and locations for things like quick templates, etc. so I can retrieve them individually from my last tape backup. All help gratefully received! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and Bayesit 0.8.4 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Thread Creation Error?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:31:32 +, BJH wrote: > Hi > > Suddendly my installation of TheBat! has gone pear shaped! > > I keep getting the following error: > > "Thread creation error: Not enough storage is available to process > this command" > > Eh? > > The error seems to occur whenever a folder is accessed. > > How many Gigabytes does it need? > > I've got a minimum 20Gb free on all partitions, 512Mb RAM running > XPSP2 with all updates, all drives are kept defragged by PerfectDisk 7 > and my 'temp' folder is clean. > > What more can I do? I could do with some help here.. I'm now getting : "Access violation at address 007A04D5 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0000." All suggestions gratefully received 'cos I can't send/receive at the moment! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Aletrnatives to AVG?
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:38:17 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > That shouldn't have anything to do with AVG, I've been using that for > ages and I don't notice any connection failures. > What happens when you disable AVG, do still have those failures then? Hi Roelof I wanted an good alternative to AVG so I could eliminate AVG as the cause without losing my AV protection. So, no, it hasn't made any difference. I still suspect my ISP's mail servers, but, of course, when asked everything is OK at their end so it MUST be either my firewall or my AV program, mustn't it? ;) Mind you, I think NOD seems pretty good. All I need now are some viruses (?) to check its effectiveness! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Aletrnatives to AVG?
Hi all I've started having numerous connection failures when retrieving mail using the AVG plugin for TB so I thought I'd look out for an alternative antivirus program. Can anyone recommend an alternative other than Norton that works along with TheBat!? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying HTML
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:21:24 -0600, Chris wrote: > HOWEVER, a whitelist would be nice. For example, I could configure The > Bat! to download images from Amazon's server, my bank's server, and my > own server, but no others. > See this feature request: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780 I noticed when trying out TBird that it has a "Show Images" button. Seems to fit the bill for me. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.65.03 and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam Filtering
Hi all I've noticed that I'm now starting to get spams that ask for reading confirmation and it occurred to me that some users may unknowingly have their computers set to automatically reply to such requests, therefore giving the spammers confirmation of a bone fide email address. I have my system set up to prompt me before sending reading confirmations, but I wondered what the default TB action was and also if it was possible to set up a filter to ignore reading confirmations unless, say the sender was in your address book? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Bayesit Stats
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:34:45 -0500, MikeD (2) wrote: > Yes, I just registered my copy a couple of days ago. In most ways it > works better than BayesIt, but I still get more false positives with it > than with BayesIt. But I am still tweeking the settings What settings are you currently using? I have set it up as follows: Out of 100 score: Average Delete a message: No Move a message to Junk: Yes, with score greater than 50 Move messages marked as junk to the Junk Folder: Yes Use the common junk folder: No -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and AGAVA 2.1.6 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Bayesit Stats
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:35:01 -0500, MikeD (2) wrote: > Ahh, I get it now. My explanation of the behavior of the '~' file is, I > think, still correct. As to why you are not seeing any spam filtering, > if you your black and white lists are doing was much as you say, I think > that means that not much mail is getting to the actual BayesIt filter to > be counted. Having said that, would have expected some info there. I > can send you a copy of my stat.bin if you think that might help. Or > uninstall / reinstall the plug in might help. My stat.bin is a binary > file, so there may be a required structure for it to be recognized as a > valid stat file. Well, I've taken your lead and installed a copy of AGAVA for a trial. And I have to say that first impressions are pretty favourable. I trained it up with my batch of spam emails and its working very well. It certainly *seems* a lot easier to get going than BayesIt! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Bayesit Stats
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:57:43 -0600, Chris wrote: > This is a shot in the dark. Are the permissions on the stats file > correct? As far as I can tell. FileMon shows that Bayesit is accessing the file to read it but just doesn't seem to write anything. But I don't know whether this file stat.bin is the log file or not? Perhaps someone could let me know? I did once come across an installation/upgrade problem in the past where if a file doesn't exist BayesIt doesn't seem to be clever enough to create it...so I'm wondering if this is the problem here. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Bayesit Stats
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:33:56 -0500, MikeD (2) wrote: > Well I have never dug into it quite that deeply, but it sounds like > those files are only used for calculating stats, not for the actual > filtering, so their not being around should not cause a filter issue. Mike, I think we may be at crossed purposes here. :) My filtering is working very well. I use whitelist and blacklist extensively and this seems to be the best approach. I just sometimes look at the stats for interest and was surprised to see that Bayesit was reporting 'nil' spam! This got me thinking and that's when digging deeper I noticed the apparent issue with the 'stat.bin' file? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No Bayesit Stats
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:02:25 -0500, MikeD (2) wrote: > But I wasn't particularly 'religious' about checking the stats. I was > more interested in the results Well, for sure, but I've been running 'FileMon' and it seems to me that BayesIt isn't working quite right. It seems as if it tries to open ~stat.bin as well as stat.bin. Unfortunately ~stat.bin doesn't exist. I tried making a copy of stat.bin and renaming it to ~stat.bin but BayesIt just deletes it at the end of the session. If I remove both files then BayesIt doesn't recreate either, which I would have expected it to do. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No Bayesit Stats
Hi I've noticed that BayesIt doesn't seem to be saving any stats. Has anyone else noticed this or can anyone suggest a fix? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.64.01 (Christmas Edition) and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Clean installation and ByesIt!
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:17:41 +0200, Edvinas Matiušaitis wrote: > Well, it is not the case here. I was doing everything absolutely the same as > you describing, however BayesIt creates just the following directories and > files (output of dir *.* /s): > > === > Directory of Q:\Mail\BayesIt > > 2005-12-06 11:10 . > 2005-12-06 11:10 .. > 2005-12-06 11:04 base > 2005-12-06 11:06 2 587 bayesit.LOG >1 File(s) 2 587 bytes > Directory of Q:\Mail\BayesIt\base > 2005-12-06 11:04 . > 2005-12-06 11:04 .. > 2005-12-06 11:06 transact >0 File(s) 0 bytes Well, I've been down this road also, so you're not alone Edvinas. I seem to recall that the problem occurs when the mail folder is not in the 'default' location, i.e. as part of the TB program folder group. IIRC I *think* I got over the problem by creating two 'dummy' files using notepad and manually copying them to the 'new' Bayesit location. Once BayesIt managed to write some extra entries to this location then everything worked OK afterwards. Make doubly sure that the folder locations are EXACTLY where they should be in the Bayeit options. And, make sure that you haven't got TWO copies of BayesIt installed in different locations. I had these problems a few versions ago and up to now subsequent program 'upgrades' have worked OK. Good Luck! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.14 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Attachments Macro
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:46:39 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > The %Attachments macro is called as soon as you create the message. When > you don't have attachments when you start to edit the message body then > the macro won't list the attachments. But when you create the message, > add the attachments and then edit the body then you'll get your list. > When you prefer to create your message and afterwards add attachments, > then you should use a QT with the %Attachments macro that you call after > you're done done. OK, got it, thanks thanks... -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.14 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Attachments Macro
Hi I would like to use the %Attachments macro to list any files attached to a message so I've placed it into my 'New Message' template but it doesn't seem to work. I just get at the bottom of my message where the list should be. I must be missing something obvious.... -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.14 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help with IMAP
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:43:15 +, The Janitor wrote: > Surely a failure of AVG not Tbird? Well, yes, but there is a plugin for TB and as I wasn't aware of an AV program that actually worked with Thunderbird and IMAP so I decided to go back to a program that does. (I hope!) It seems that there are plenty of AV programs that will work easily with POP email, but IMAP seems less well supported. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.14 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Help with IMAP
Hi all After a brief flirtation with Thunderbird I've come back to TB! I particularly didn't like the fact that AVG couldn't scan any of my incoming mail. I assume that because of TB's plugin it does? Can anyone tell me if Bayesit works with an IMAP connection? And, if so, where is the Junk Folder best placed, locally or on the server? And how does Bayesit know the location? That'll do for now! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.62.10 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What Triggers 'Read' Filter
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:23:13 +0200, Roelof Otten wrote: > You could create a filter that checks whether the message has been read > and is older than your specific age and then moves the message to > another folder. Where do I place the filter, "Incoming", "Outgoing", "Read", "Replied" or "Selective Download"? > And then you create a recurring re-filter action in the scheduler and > assign that filter to it. That's the bit I was missing! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.60.07 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What Triggers 'Read' Filter
Hi I know this may be a really dumb question! But what actually triggers the 'Read' filter? Is it the action of actually reading the mail OR is it the fact that a mail has been read? I ask because I would like a filter that moves mails that have been read and are of a certain age to a specified folder. I want to archive certain messages when they reach a specific age and I have read them. I tried the 'Alternative deletion method for purging folders' but it doesn't seem to work the way I want as my archive folder ends up with messages I don't want to keep. Or maybe I just can't see the obvious. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.60.07 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 3.60 won't start!
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 08:41:57 +0100, Barry wrote: > So I've downloaded and installed the new version. I try to run it, I get > the splash screen, then a screen telling me that Bayesit is loading, the a > screen telling me that Bayesit is shutting down, then the TheBat! crashes. OK, I've fixed the problem. It seems that the Installer isn't clever enough to recognise when Bayesit is installed in a different location to standard. My copy is installed in a folder off my mail folders, NOT in the program folders structure. My program files are located in "D:\Program Files\The Bat!\" My mail files are located in "D:\The Bat!\" Bayesit is located in "D:\The Bat!\Bayesit\" A quick copy and paste of the new Bauesit files sorted it out. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.60.07 and BayesIt! 0.8.4 Release Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB 3.60 won't start!
Hi all This morning I accepted the invitation to upgrade to v3.60 So I've downloaded and installed the new version. I try to run it, I get the splash screen, then a screen telling me that Bayesit is loading, the a screen telling me that Bayesit is shutting down, then the TheBat! crashes. What have I done wrong, other than trying to upgrade? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Would still be using TheBat! version 3.51.10 (if I could) and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayes filter stopped working
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:52:07 -0300, alien wrote: > The BayesIt filter that comes with TB! installation package doesn't > work for me because it doesn't have an email whitelist feature. I think it does, at least mine has. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.51.10 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayesit and build 30?
Hi I just downloaded build 30 from the Ritlabs web site and installed over my copy of build 25 and Bayesit 0.8.1 For some reason the installer removed my copy of Bayesit but didn't replace it. I tried installing a downloaded copy of Bayesit but its only 0.8.0 and when I tried running the combination TB would crash when I was trying to set up the Bayesit plug in. I reverted to build 25 and everything is back to normal. Just wondered if anyone else had experienced similar problems with build 30? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5.25 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Submission Forms?
Hi all I've been using V3.5 for a while now and I've found the option for "Submission Forms" What are these? Seem interesting, but I can't find anything in the help file about them. Does someone know how I can find out what this all means? ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5.25 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bayesit Add In
On Thu, 26 May 2005 13:17:24 +0200, Gerard wrote: > ON Thursday, May 26, 2005, 10:08:08 AM, you wrote: > B> Copy and Paste the following REGEX expressions into the Bayesit > B> "blacklist.txt" file in your BayesIt folder. You'll find the list below my > > Hi Barry, > > Don't you mean the filters.txt file ? Nope, definitely blacklist.txt and whitelist.txt, which are both used in my BayesIt folder (location as specified in the options for BayesIt) and are reported in the bayesit.log file as being used. Unless anyone else knows any different! ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5.0.17 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
On Thu, 19 May 2005 09:41:35 +0100, Barry wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:58:12 -0500, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > >> No help, but misery loves company. ;) I am getting the same message. > > Seems to be a Bayesit problem as the error is reported in the bayesit.log > at the end of the session. > > 19.05.2005 08:57:25 > > TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 > Non-fatal > Line (important!) = 14 > Parameter 0= > Parameter 1=8B6D0809 Got it! It's a Bayesit install issue. Somehow TB thought that my installation of Bayesit was still 0.8.0 even though the plugin selected was the correct file, 0.8.1 It was a bugger to get TB to recognise the newest plugin file but perseverance prevailed. Finally I had to find the location of the language file (*.lng) and once that was correctly selected everything now seems to be OK. I suspect that the problem was due to the fact that my plugin was not located in the default place. I have my Mail Folder on a different partition which is where the Bayesit Plugin was also located. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:58:12 -0500, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > No help, but misery loves company. ;) I am getting the same message. Seems to be a Bayesit problem as the error is reported in the bayesit.log at the end of the session. 19.05.2005 08:57:25 TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Non-fatal Line (important!) = 14 Parameter 0= Parameter 1=8B6D0809 -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem closing TB3.5
On Mon, 16 May 2005 07:58:12 -0500, Stuart Cuddy wrote: > Hello Barry, > Monday, May 16, 2005, 3:34:00 AM, you wrote: > > B> I'm getting the following error message when closing the Bat! > > B> Exception in TBP_Finalize > > B> TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 > B> Non-fatal > B> Line (important!) = 14 > B> Parameter 0= > B> Parameter 1=8B6D0809 > > B> Any suggestions? > > B> Seems to occur after the 'Bayesit' splash. > > No help, but misery loves company. ;) I am getting the same message. Glad that I'm not alone! ;-) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Change in Address Favourites with V3.5
Hi With versions prior to 3.5 when I used the small down arrow next to the Create New Message icon it displayed my address book groups with an arrow to expand the group I wanted to use. Kept everything neat and compact. Now I just get an enormous long list of all my favourites! This is a retrograde step in my view. Anyway to get it back to my favoured way? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem closing TB3.5
Hi I'm getting the following error message when closing the Bat! Exception in TBP_Finalize TBP_Finalize function: exception C005 at C005 Non-fatal Line (important!) = 14 Parameter 0= Parameter 1=8B6D0809 Any suggestions? Seems to occur after the 'Bayesit' splash. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.5 and BayesIt! 0.8.1 Release Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayes Filter Problem
Hello all, I did a fresh install of 3.5 then used a day old backup. I installed Bayes Filter again, now everytime i close TheBat i have to reinstall the Bayes Filter. It just wont stay installed. Anyone have an idea whats up -- Best regards, Barry Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Display Fonts?
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:44:56 +0200, Peter Fjelsten wrote: > Best regards > Peter Fjelsten Thanks Peter, BTW what's with all the stuff in angled <> brackets? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Display Fonts?
Hi I've been playing around with the display settings on my monitor, currently 1280 x 1024. I would like to increase the font size in the accounts and header windows of TB3 but can't find a setting to change. Can anyone help me with this? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit! - "blacklist.txt" (1/1) uuEncoded 8061 bytes
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:37:27 +, Barry wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:07:21 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > >> Attachments are allowed but only up to a list maximum of 25kb. TBBETA >> has a higher ceiling of 40kb. > > Thanks Marck, I stand corrected, and attached is my blacklist of RegEx > filters for Bayesit. > > Feel free to try at your own risk!! Hmmm? Well, it was attached when it left me! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release begin 644 blacklist.txt M#0HC6S%=(%9I86=R82!;4UT-"E-U8FIE8W0@;6%T8VAES`L M,GU;:3%=6UQ77UU[,"PR?5MA0%U;7%=?77LP+#)]9UM<5U]=>S`L,GUR6UQ7 M7UU[,"PR?5MA0%T-"@T*(ULQ72!!9"]3<&%M($UA061V7%<-"@T*(ULR72!!9"]3 M<&%M($UA?%QS*4-U;[EMAIL PROTECTED] M?%QS?"TI?$,P8VM\4&5N6VDQ;%US?$QE2`H3&5G86Q\061U;'0I M?"A7971\1')I<'!I;F=\2&]T*2`H5&5E;G-\3&5S8FEA;G,I#0H-"B-;-ET@ M061U;'[EMAIL PROTECTED],I#0I3=6)J96-T(&UA=&-H97,@.D%D=6QT($QI;FMS?%-E>"`H M4VAO=WQ3:71E*7Q0;W)N("A-;W9I97-\1FQI8VLI?$UA2`H3&5G86Q\061U;'0I#0H-"B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED];'[EMAIL PROTECTED](I#0I";V1Y(&UA M=&-H97,@[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2E\4VET92!396-R971S?$%D=6QT("A3 M:71E("D_3&EN:W,-"@T*(ULS72!!9'5L="`H0BD-"D)O9'D@;6%T8VAE2!M871C:&5S(#I0:&]N92!397A\ M36%R<[EMAIL PROTECTED]"XM74)[EMAIL PROTECTED]"XM74QO;F5L>0T*#0HC6S5=($%D=6QT("A" M*0T*0F]D>2!M871C:&5S(#I9;W4N>S$L,35]7&1<9"`N>S$L,C!]5&[EMAIL PROTECTED] M97(-"@T*(ULV72!!9'5L="`H0BD-"D)O9'D@;6%T8VAE'@N*R0-"@T*(ULQ72!"860@(D9R;VTB(%M&70T*1G)O;2!N;W0@;6%T M8VAES(L-'T-"@T*(ULQ72!" M860@)[EMAIL PROTECTED]($AE861E7=A2D@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]2!9;W5R?$-O;G-O;&ED871E M?$9R965D;[EMAIL PROTECTED])O;7Q486ME($-O;G1R;VQ\4V]L=71I;VYS/R!4;WQ7:71H M;W5T?$-L96%R?%!A>6EN9WQ497)M:6YA=&4I("XJ*$1E8G1\0FEL;',I#0H- M"B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5B="!#;VYS;VQI9&%T:6]N(%M370T*4W5B:F5C="!M871C:&5S M(#HH26Y\1V]T?$]V97)W:&5L;65D?%1O;R`H375C:'Q-86YY*7Q7:7!E($]U M='Q7;W)R>2XK06)O=71\1&ES7Q-;W)E*2XK*$1E8G1\ M0FEL;',I#0H-"B-;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5B="!#;VYS;VQI9&%T:6]N(%M370T*4W5B:F5C M="!M871C:&5S(#HH4&5R9F5C='Q296)U:6QD?$=E="!"86-K?$)A9'Q#;&5A M&5S?$-H:6QD(%-U<'!O6UE;G1S?$QO<[EMAIL PROTECTED]($1E8G0@ M0V]N7Q);6UE9&EA=&5L M>2E\0V]N2!&<[EMAIL PROTECTED])S96QF("D_1G)O;2!$96)T+BHD M#0H-"B-;,3)=([EMAIL PROTECTED]2!M871C:&5S(#I4:7)E9"!O M9BY[,2PR,'TH0FEL;'Q$96)T*0T*#0HC6S%=($5X=&5N9&5D($)L86-K;&ES M="`H1BD-"D9R;VT@;6%T8VAEETK7&1<9%QD7&1;82UZ75QD7&1` M#0H-"B-;,[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0FQA8VML:7-T("A&*0T*1G)O;2!M871C:&5S M(#I;82UZ75QD7&1<9%QD6V$M>EU<9%QD7&1<9$`-"@T*(ULS72!%>'1E;F1E M9"!";&%C:VQI<[EMAIL PROTECTED]&6%H;V]<+F-O;0T*#0HC6S1=($5X=&5N9&5D($)L86-K;&ES="`H1BD- M"D9R;VT@;6%T8VAE0T*#0HC6S5=($5X=&5N9&5D($)L86-K;&ES="`H1BD-"D9R;VT@;6%T8VAE M365SS-]+%QS M*RD_7&1[,2PR?5QS*UM!+5I=>S-]7',K7&1[-'U<S)] M*#I<9'LR?2D_7',K*"A;*RU=7&1[-'TI?"A;0T5-4%U;1%-=?$=-?%4I5'Q; M04U.65I=*0T*#0HC6S%=(").;[EMAIL PROTECTED];2(@*$(I#0I";V1Y(&UA=&-H97,@ M.E1H:7,@27,@3F]T("A3<&%M?%5NGQ< M+G)O?%PN;61\7"YF:7Q<+F1K?%PN=G5\7"YKhttp://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:25:18 -0500, Roman Katzer wrote: > Furthermore: I never got BayesIt to work. The fact that there doesn't seem > to be documentation doesn't help. Even when the German magazine c't (highly > respected) tested several mail programs and their spam filtering > capabilities they couln't get it to work. In other tests that I've read > BayesIt seemed to always be worse than other Bayes-based competitors. Hi Roman, See my reply to Dick. I used to use K9 with great success, but for me Mailwasher Pro is the top dog! It seems odd to me that some people seem to claim great things of Bayesit, yet for others, like me, it doesn't seem to work. Similarly great claims are made for Bayes Filter, and yet, for me, it just doesn't work. I agree with your comment re the lack of documentation. I'll continue my experiment. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:16:45 +0100, Dick H wrote: > Hello Barry, > > On Monday, February 21, 2005 at 09:01:40 GMT + (which was 10:01:40 > where I live), Barry wrote and made these valuable points on the > subject of "More observation on Bayesit!": > >> Hi > >> Well I'm still persevering! > >> I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted >> them from my copy of MailWasher. > > Why all these problems and hassle if Spambayes can do all the work for you > with just a little bit of training? Hi Dick, I can use Mailwasher Pro VERY successfully. I'm just trying to find an integrated solution that works. So far it hasn't, but I like the challenge. :-) And there's no doubt that for me the RegEx filters have improved performance greatly. I've no doubt that SpamBayes works very well, but it's yet another program that has to be run alongside the multitude of other 'utilities' that seem to clog up my taskbar on a regular basis. So I'll give Bayesit a month and if it doesn't work after that I'll go back to Mailwasher Pro, which does. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:07:21 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: > Attachments are allowed but only up to a list maximum of 25kb. TBBETA > has a higher ceiling of 40kb. Thanks Marck, I stand corrected, and attached is my blacklist of RegEx filters for Bayesit. Feel free to try at your own risk!! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:20:31 +, Tony Boom wrote: > Hello Barry, > > A reminder of what Barry on TBUDL typed on: > 21 February 2005 at 12:30:15 GMT +0100 > > B> You'll have to drop me a line Ron, Gmane hides your identity very well! > > Why not post it to this list, that way everyone who uses Bayesit can try it > and > you won't have to send it a dozen times. I thought attachments were not allowed. Marck's slapped my wrist before! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:04:35 -0600, Ron Cameron wrote: > Hello Barry! > Send it to my email address below please. You'll have to drop me a line Ron, Gmane hides your identity very well! -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More observation on Bayesit!
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:47:44 +0100, Gerard wrote: > ON Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:01:40 AM, you wrote: > B> If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the > B> file over. > > Hi Barry, > > I would love to try them. > > How much do the slow down bayesIt? Can you confirm your email addresses as the Gmane server confuses them... -- Best regards Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
More observation on Bayesit!
Hi Well I'm still persevering! I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted them from my copy of MailWasher. This seems to have made a dramatic improvement in spam catching. I've now reduced the spam failures from 100% (really!) to below 54% in two days. Looking at the logs it appears that the rules catch the majority of offenders.. If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the file over. -- Best regards Barry Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:59:50 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > You're experiencing other problems than I did. 0.7.3 didn't work for > me and a clean install of 0.8.0 works. Don't you just love computers! I've since re-applied 0.8.0 now that I've got the dictionaries created. I was having a look at the Bayesit log file and I noticed that after every use of TheBat! I was getting: "17.02.2005 15:03:46 Current recalculation session is interrupted." When I use TheBat! to check my email I'll start the program to download the mail and if there is nothing of interest I'll junk the Spam and close the program down. Normally this doesn't take longer a minute thanks to my ADSL connection. Could this be that this isn't sufficient time for Bayesit to retrain and rewrite the dictionaries as a background operation? And, if it isn't could this be an area of the program that needs revising? After all, I can't be the only person that uses TheBat! in this way? ;-) -- Best regards Barry Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release (again) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > >> Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? >> Options -> Preferences -> Anti-spam -> BayesIt -> Configure -> Options > > Hi Roelof > > Yes I did, and that's what I'm finding so frustrating. I think I am doing > everything as I should but it just doesn't want to work. > > The first time I was told by Marck that there wasn't enough spam in the > dictionary for it to work. OK, I accepted that that was why the mails were > only getting a score of 0. > > The second time I came across the BatWorld spam message files so I tried > them that gave me over a 1000 spam mails plus over a 1000 of my own good > mails to train it with. > > Then everything was being scored 99! > > I don't like being beaten so I decided to try again with a clean install > but now I don't appear to have any dictionaries. > > Mail Washer Pro is beginning to look very attractive! :-) OK There's definitely a problem with 0.8.0 I reinstalled 0.7.3, and after training both spam and nonspam dictionaries were created. 0.8.0 does *not* do this! So I've trained up with a 1000 spam and 1000 nonspam mails, so let's see how 0.7.3 gets on. Fingers crossed, but I'm sceptical. ;-) -- Best regards Barry Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.3 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100, Roelof Otten wrote: > >> Did you tell BayesIt where it should store its stuff? >> Options -> Preferences -> Anti-spam -> BayesIt -> Configure -> Options > > Hi Roelof > > Yes I did, and that's what I'm finding so frustrating. I think I am doing > everything as I should but it just doesn't want to work. > > The first time I was told by Marck that there wasn't enough spam in the > dictionary for it to work. OK, I accepted that that was why the mails were > only getting a score of 0. > > The second time I came across the BatWorld spam message files so I tried > them that gave me over a 1000 spam mails plus over a 1000 of my own good > mails to train it with. > > Then everything was being scored 99! > > I don't like being beaten so I decided to try again with a clean install > but now I don't appear to have any dictionaries. > > Mail Washer Pro is beginning to look very attractive! :-) OK There's definitely a problem with 0.8.0 I reinstalled 0.7.3, and after training both spam and nonspam dictionaries were created. 0.8.0 does *not* do this! So I've trained up with a 1000 spam and 1000 nonspam mails, so let's see how 0.7.3 gets on. Fingers crossed, but I'm sceptical. ;-) -- Best regards Barry Using TheBat! version 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.3 Release Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html