Re: Automatic backups

[David Calvarese]

Hello Jack on TBUDL,

Saturday, July 24, 2010, 9:27:14 AM, you wrote:

> On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote:

m>> I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat 
tools/backup/standard method manually.  Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail 
to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is 
already taken.

m>> Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.

> No problem.  What you describe is exactly why I started this thread
> in the first place. Apparently TB! will refuse to overwrite the
> previous backup because the filename has already been used.  I don't
> need/want my external backup drive filling up with full backups with 
> different filenames.

> I suppose one might be able to use TASK SCHEDULER to execute a
> batch file which would delete the previous backup prior to TB! doing a 
> scheduled full backup.

> Actually, you could make the argument that it's risky *NOT* to have
> previous backups in case something in TB! went hinky and you've just
> erased the previous GOOD backup and replaced it with a corrupt backup.

> I dunno.  Maybe we're not looking at this with eyes wide open.


A  way  to  have TB!  manage several backups would be good.  Give it a
base  filename  and  then let it name them name-date and an option for
how  many  to  maintain  so  that it deletes the oldest one(s) once it
makes a new backup and reaches that point.

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Re: "Reply to" problem

[David Calvarese]

On Friday, October 13, 2006, 3:24:35 PM, Arjan de Groot on TBUDL wrote:

>>Its configurable, so what. Maybe it should be off by default though.

> That doesn't make it any less superfluous or stupid.

I never have understood why we had that option to begin with.  That's
always one of the first things I do on setting up an account, turn off
reply numbering.


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Re: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

On Thursday, October 12, 2006, 11:33:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez on TBUDL wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:01:56 -0400 GMT (12/10/2006, 19:01 +0700 GMT),
> David Calvarese wrote:

>>> Actually, I don't have a regex that cuts this off, and it doesn't
>>> show in the replies either (unless someone forgets their cutmark). Why
>>> do you need that regex? (Just out of curiosity.)

DC>> I'm on several Yahoo groups and having to either manually select what
DC>> I want to quote in my reply or cut it out afterwards...  on every
DC>> reply going to a Yahoo group.

> OIC. The groups I subscribe to all enforce the use of the cutmark, but
> I can imagine what you are talking about.

This can't possibly be that hard of a thing to do...  Unfortunately,
it's beyond what I can do with regex at this point.

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Re: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 9:22:32 PM, Thomas Fernandez on TBUDL wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:43:28 -0400 GMT (12/10/2006, 01:43 +0700 GMT),
> David Calvarese wrote:

DC>> Thanks, but that still isn't pulling out the Group Links portion, like
DC>> this:

DC>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> [...]

> Actually, I don't have a regex that cuts this off, and it doesn't
> show in the replies either (unless someone forgets their cutmark). Why
> do you need that regex? (Just out of curiosity.)


I'm on several Yahoo groups and having to either manually select what
I want to quote in my reply or cut it out afterwards...  on every
reply going to a Yahoo group.

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Re[2]: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

Hello Mica,

Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 3:10:07 PM, you wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256

>***^\ ."_)~~
>  ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 11 Oct 2006,
>@  @  at 14:11:54 -0400, when David Calvarese wrote:

>> That didn't seem to work either.

> Then it is something else, not the template.


Well, I'm open to suggestions what to look for then.

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Re: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 3:45:15 PM, Marck D Pearlstone on TBUDL wrote:

> Although my own personal version looks more like this:

> ,--/  \--
> %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)%-
> ((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
> (\s*)?%-
> ((Dear|Hi|Hello|Hey|Greetings|Howdy).{0,20}\n+)?%-
> (-+[\S ]+\n+)?%-
> %-
> %-
> (.*)\n+%-
> %-
> %-
> ^(%-
> - --\s*\n|%-
> --\s*\n|%-
> _{40,}\s*\n|%-
> Yahoo! Groups Links\n|%-
> [\s\*]*EDIT YOUR POSTINGS[!\*\s]+\n|%-
> -+ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -+~-->\n|%-
> \s*Kind regards,?\n|%-
> \s*Love,?\n|%-
> \s*Regards,?\n|%-
> \s*Cheers,?\n|%-
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
> Your use of|%-
> Get your FREE download|%-
> ---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
> \z)?"%-
> %REGEXPBLINDMATCH(%TEXT)%-
> %SUBPATT(8)'%-
> `--\ End /--


This is driving me nuts.  By looking at this version, it should work,
at least pulling out the Yahoo! Groups Links line, but it isn't.  And
I can't figure out why.  Right now, I have this set in a template
called REQ and my mail template itself is as follows

---
%Qinclude='NoLW'

%Qinclude='REQ'

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%Qinclude='subclean'
%Qinclude='TNoL'
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':Dave_Calvarese:')%
%SetHeader("User-agent","TB/%THEBATVERSION (by RITlabs)")%-


NoLW just does the On   on  wrote line.
and TNoL does the to line as >Name> on .  subclean cleans up the
subject line.


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Re: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 2:34:24 PM, Mary Bull on TBUDL wrote:

> Hello David!

> On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 8:13 AM, you wrote:

>> Can anyone help me with a better macro to clean out all the
>> ads, PGP signatures, ect. from messages I'm replying too?

> Here's mine. Works like a charm for me.

> Be sure to put "David" in the sig where I have "Mary."
> Begin copy-and-paste:
> 

> Hello %OFRomFName!

> On %ODate, %OTime, you wrote:

> %quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNED.*?\n%-
> (Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-(0,3)?\s*?--\s*\n|-(0,3)?\s*Yahoo!\s|%-
> -BEGIN\sPGP\sSIGNATURE.*s?\n)|\z)"%-
> "%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""

> --
> Best regards,
> Mary
> 
> end copy-and-paste


Thanks, but that still isn't pulling out the Group Links portion, like
this:

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fictionwise/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fictionwise/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


That's what I can't seem to get rid of.  Other than that, your
%quotes seems to work fine for me.


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Re: Template Question

[David Calvarese]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:44:13 PM, Mica Mijatovic on TBUDL wrote:

> ***^\ ."_)~~
>  ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 11 Oct 2006,
>@  @  at 09:13:47 -0400, when David Calvarese wrote:

>> I have a bit of a problem  I'm using the reply macro from the regex macro
>> collection that is supposed to remote all the Yahoo groups information
>> when I reply to a message, but it's leaving all that stuff in the
>> message.  Can anyone help me with a better macro to clean out all the
>> ads, PGP signatures, ect. from messages I'm replying too?

> Try this one (those are just two longish lines)...

> %SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"Was%SUBPATT="2",
> at %SUBPATT="3"%SUBPATT="4", when %TONAME wrote:

> %quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(\n*-BEGIN PGP
> %-SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(-*?\s*?--\s*\n|_{40,}\s*\n|%--
> -BEGIN PGP
> SIGNATURE.*s?\n|-+\s+.*roups.*~--\>)|%-_{64,}\n.*MSN|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""%-%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="3"

That didn't seem to work either.

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Template Question

[David Calvarese]

Hello TBUDL,


I have a bit of a problem  I'm using the reply macro from the regex macro
collection that is supposed to remote all the Yahoo groups information
when I reply to a message, but it's leaving all that stuff in the
message.  Can anyone help me with a better macro to clean out all the
ads, PGP signatures, ect. from messages I'm replying too?

Here's the Macro I'm using to clean it up at the moment.

,- [ Macro from Regex Macro Collection ]
| %quotes='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP %-
| SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(%-
| -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
| _{40,}\s*\n|%-
| \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
| -+\s+.*roups.*~--\>)|%-
| \n+Get your FREE download|%-
| \z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="4"
`-

I've also tried this one from the Macro and QT repository with no
luck.

,- [ Macro from Macro and QT repository ]
| %QUOTES='%SETPATTREGEXP="(?is)%-
| ((\s*)?\n?-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?%-
| (\s*(Dear|Hi|Hello|Hey|Greetings|Howdy) \S*?\s*\n+)?%-
| (-+[\S ]+\n)?%-
| (.*?)(^(%-
| - -*?\s*?--\s*\n|%-
| _{40,}\s*\n|%-
| -{40,}\s*\n|%-
| \n-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE.*s?\n|%-
| --+\s+.*roups.*~--\>)|%-
| \n\nYour use of|%-
| \n+Get your FREE download|%-
| \nNote that the email address of the sender has been changed|%-
| \n---\nOutgoing mail is certified Virus Free.|%-
| \z)"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%text"%SUBPATT="7"'
| 
`-


And here's the new Yahoo Groups information

,- [ Yahoo Groups ]
| Yahoo! Groups Links
| 
| <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_hollows/
| 
| <*> Your email settings:
| Individual Email | Traditional
| 
| <*> To change settings online go to:
| http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_hollows/join
| (Yahoo! ID required)
| 
| <*> To change settings via email:
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
| <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
| http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|  
`-


I'd really appreciate any help anyone can give me.


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Re: Problems with GnupG and PGP integration

[David Calvarese]

Kevin Coates wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:40:13 -0500 (2:40 PM here), David Calvarese
> [DC] wrote in <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>>>> gpg: conversion from `utf-8' to `CP0' not available
> 
> DC> Upgrade to the 1.4.1rc2, it fixes that problem.
> 
> This does resolve the problem.
> 
> DC> Note that there are other GnuPG issues, especially when wanting to
> DC> encrypt to multiple keys for one email address (As is the case
> DC> with the PGPNET Yahoo group.
> 
> This is more of a function of GPG. Basically you need to create a
> group entry in your gpg.conf file with the e-mail address of PGPNET
> followed by the long keyids of the group members.

Never did get that to worth with TB!, even using the group line with and
without the < > around the email address.

Even with that, I should be able to manually select multiple keys to
encrypt an email to from within TB! with GnuPG...

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Re: Problems with GnupG and PGP integration

[David Calvarese]

Mica Mijatovic wrote:
>>> I'm not sure, but do you have my keys in your keyring?  If that's not
>>> it, maybe someone on the list will know.
> 
> I got your keys and it shows this:
> 
> gpg: Signature made 03/02/05 20:40:16 Central Europe Standard Time using DSA 
> key ID 1C9D5360
> gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
> gpg: BAD signature from "David Calvarese
> 
> And for this message of yours is same.
> 
> I don't know if this relates to something specific to TB or not.

I'm not sure either...  They're showing good sigs on my end when I look
in my sent items folder.  Maybe because I'm using something other than
SHA-1 as a digest...  I'll do this one with SHA and see.
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Re: Problems with GnupG and PGP integration

[David Calvarese]

Mica Mijatovic wrote:
>***^\ ."_)~~
>  ~( __ _"o   Was another beautiful day, Wed, 02 Mar 2005,
>@  @  at 14:40:13 -0500, when David Calvarese wrote:
> 
> .
> 
> I get this when check your signature, David. This sort of GPG message is
> new to me. What that would mean?
> 
> gpg: Signature made 03/02/05 20:40:16 Central Europe Standard Time using DSA 
> key ID 1C9D5360
> gpg: WARNING: signature digest conflict in message
> gpg: BAD signature from "[?]"
> 

I'm not sure, but do you have my keys in your keyring?  If that's not
it, maybe someone on the list will know.


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Re: Problems with GnupG and PGP integration

[David Calvarese]

Melissa Reese wrote:
> Here's what happens when I try to verify a simple inline clear 
> signature using the TB! integration with GnuPG:
> 
> gpg: conversion from `utf-8' to `CP0' not available

Upgrade to the 1.4.1rc2, it fixes that problem.


Note that there are other GnuPG issues, especially when wanting to
encrypt to multiple keys for one email address (As is the case with the
PGPNET Yahoo group.


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Re: Outlook .ics meeting invitations

[David Calvarese]

Nick Dutton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've just moved my contacts and calendar over to outlook after years on
> Lotus Organizer.
> 
> Has anyone managed to get e-mail responses to OL meeting invitations
> (*.ics) to use TB? Mine keep spawning an OL window.


Might want to have a look at Sunbird.  That's Mozilla's new calendar app.

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Re: new AV plug-in for TB

[David Calvarese]

B R i a N S wrote:
> On Date : Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:11:07 -0500
> David Calvarese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote this lines:
> 
> David> B R i a N S wrote:
>>> :o At last!!! i've been waiting a long time for it!!
>>> 
>>> ClamAV is a very good antivirus solution.
> 
> David> Better than Avast?
> 
> Well, here is a list of antivirus solutions responding to the new
> MyDoom version released on 16.02.2005 Guess who's on the top. ;)
> It was the only one that could detect/remove MyDoom on 16.02.2005.
> 
> ClamAV 16.02.2005 23:02 :: Worm.Mydoom.M-2
> Sophos 17.02.2005 00:02 :: W32/MyDoom-O
> TrendMicro 17.02.2005 01:11 :: WORM_MYDOOM.M
> F-Prot 17.02.2005 01:48 :: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> McAfee 17.02.2005 01:53 :: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> eTrust-Iris 17.02.2005 02:35 :: Win32/Mydoom.AU!Worm
> Symantec 17.02.2005 03:30 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> eTrust-Vet 17.02.2005 06:35 :: Win32.Mydoom.AU!ZIP
> Antivir 17.02.2005 07:11 :: Worm/MyDoom.BB
> DrWeb 17.02.2005 08:10 :: Win32.HLLW.MyBot
> BitDefender 17.02.2005 08:54 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Panda 17.02.2005 08:54 :: W32/Mydoom.AO.worm
> Norman 17.02.2005 09:25 :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AVG 17.02.2005 11:10 :: I-Worm/Mydoom.AP

I find it a little odd that Eset/NOD32 isn't on that list.  They're
usually pretty fast.  Where did you find that info anyway?  I'm curious.


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Re: new AV plug-in for TB

[David Calvarese]

B R i a N S wrote:
> :o At last!!! i've been waiting a long time for it!!
> 
> ClamAV is a very good antivirus solution.
> 
> 

Better than Avast?

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Re: More observation on Bayesit!

[David Calvarese]

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 at 09:01:40 +, Barry wrote:

B> Hi

B> Well I'm still persevering!

B> I've now transcribed 83 different regex rules over to Bayesit. I extracted
B> them from my copy of MailWasher.

B> This seems to have made a dramatic improvement in spam catching. I've now
B> reduced the spam failures from 100% (really!) to below 54% in two days.
B> Looking at the logs it appears that the rules catch the majority of
B> offenders..

B> If anyone else would like to try my rule set let me know and I'll email the
B> file over.

I'd be happy of a copy of the ruleset.  Might see if I can apply it to
Bayes Filter as well.

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Re: the bat! "on the fly encryption" and tokens

[David Calvarese]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 at 21:58:18 +0100, Claude Renaud wrote:

CR> Hi Marek,

CR> Le dimanche 20 février 2005 à 21:18:47, vous écriviez :

MM>> iKey is supported for OTFE, I didn't tested it for authentication.

CR> How can we activate OTFE ?
CR> Does the authentication based on token is planned ?

I was just about to ask that myself.  I ca

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(no subject) Re: TB & GnuPG

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 21:54:32 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK> on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:31 you (David Calvarese) wrote:

>> Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that?  I wouldn't object to
>> buying it if I had to.

ASK> Buy? Do you need to use it commercially? If not:
ASK> http://www.pgp.com/downloads/freeware/index.html

Hey, that's handy!  My only real issue with buying it is that I need
to use it on 2 PCs.  my work PC (for personal email) and my home PC
(for the same).  But I'm only ever going to be signing on one at a
time.

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(no subject) Re: TB & GnuPG

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 21:02:16 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK> on 18-Feb-2005 at 20:47 you (Peter Meyns) wrote:

>> Let's see how it behaves regarding the sig delimiter.

ASK> Much better if you ask me, because its PGP/MIME instead of inline signing,
ASK> and the sig delimiter is also totally normal. :-)

I suppose I'll have to up and buy it then.  I was hoping to avoid
having to do that.Ummm... What exactly does it do different
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(no subject) Re:

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 20:50:31 +0100, Henk de Bruijn wrote:

HdB> live), Peter Meyns wrote:

PM>> on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote:

DC>>>   I've got a little problem...  Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes
DC>>>   up my sig delimter  so that it's only -- instead of --.  Any
DC>>>   way to fix that?

PM>> Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own
PM>> implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own
PM>> implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use
PM>> GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message.

HdB> I am using gnupg 1.4.1rc2 and I can use other UID's than the first on
HdB> my keyring to sign messages without using gpgshell.

I'm not seeing that problem in 1.4.0a either, just the sig delimiter
thing.  How'd you get around the UTF-8 to CP0 problem on stock
unpatched gnupg 1.4.x though?  I had to use the patched on to get that
to work.

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(no subject) Re: TB & GnuPG

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 20:14:40 +0100, Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> Hi David,

PM> on Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:54:20 -0500GMT, you wrote:

DC>>   I've got a little problem...  Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes
DC>>   up my sig delimter  so that it's only -- instead of --.  Any
DC>>   way to fix that?

PM> Not that I know of. TB! recognizes sig delimiters defected by its own
PM> implementation, but not when I use GPGshell. Alas, TB!'s own
PM> implementation only works with the first UserID, so I have to use
PM> GPGshell to sign, e.g., this message.

Hrm... Would PGP V8 be any better for that?  I wouldn't object to
buying it if I had to.

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(no subject)

[David Calvarese]

Hey All,

  I've got a little problem...  Using TB! along with GnuPG, it messes
  up my sig delimter  so that it's only -- instead of --.  Any
  way to fix that?

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Re: Spamalizer

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 at 06:46:02 -0800, Darrin Rich wrote:


T>> I wouldn't trust a server-side spam filter that just deletes mails it
T>> thinks is spam. I have never used spamalizer myself. Make sure you
T>> have control, or you'll lose mails.

DR> It seems like it should work well according to the link they sent me.
DR> http://www.midphase.com/pop_spamalizer.shtml

The only server side spam product I ever found that was any good was
SpamAssassin. It tags messages it thinks are spam and then you can
deal with them on the client end.

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Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

[David Calvarese]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 at 17:40:56 +, Tony Boom wrote:

TB>   A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBUDL typed on:
TB>   17 February 2005 at 15:32:23 GMT +0100

DC>> I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either.  Doesn't seem to
DC>> do a thing.  I'm trying out Bayes Filter ATM though.

TB>  It used to work here but for some reason it doesn't work at all now 
despite the
TB>  fact it has in excess of 10,000 mail to work with.

TB>   It never has worked properly without an exceptional amount of effort.

Bayes Filter seems to be working already for me, with just the stuff I
have on hand to train it with.

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Re: Why am I finding BayesIt so difficult?

[David Calvarese]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 at 14:24:45 +, Barry wrote:

B> I don't like being beaten so I decided to try again with a clean install
B> but now I don't appear to have any dictionaries.

B> Mail Washer Pro is beginning to look very attractive! :-)

I'm not so impressed with BayesIt right now either.  Doesn't seem to
do a thing.  I'm trying out Bayes Filter ATM though.

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 11:22:51 -0600, Mary Bull wrote:

M> How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from
M> Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed?

 There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace...

MB>>> I like to get my "ads" from Amazon. However, if they sent me an
MB>>> attachment, I would become quite wary.

>> Y

MB> I'm not too good at "geek speak." But I'm assuming that "Y" means
MB> "Why."

Actually, it's cause my latop is going to pot and randomly clicks the
left mouse button and the cursor was over the send icon. :)

MB> David--this is getting a little OT. Want to continue on tbot?

Sure, that might be a good idea. :)

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 21:29:57 -0600, Mary Bull wrote:

M>>> How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from
M>>> Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed?

>> There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace...

MB> I like to get my "ads" from Amazon. However, if they sent me an
MB> attachment, I would become quite wary.

Yes, attachments are an entirely different matter. :)  Must be careful
unless you know that someone is sending you an attachment and what it
is...  And even then, a modicum of safety precautions are needed. :)

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 21:29:57 -0600, Mary Bull wrote:

M>>> How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from
M>>> Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed?

>> There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace...

MB> I like to get my "ads" from Amazon. However, if they sent me an
MB> attachment, I would become quite wary.

Y

MB> I would save it to my Desktop and run F-Secure, TDS-3, SpyBot and
MB> Trojan Remover over it, before opening it.

MB> And then I would expect F-Secure to catch any "archived" mal-code that
MB> did try to pop up when I opened it.

MB> But, my first line of defense is the Mail Dispatcher.

MB> I download no e-mail the address of which I don't recognize or which I
MB> am not expecting.

MB> I hope that I am not too naive and trusting. I don't know what further
MB> I can do to protect myself.

MB> I do not click on any attachment that my sister who uses Outlook
MB> Express-HTML sends me, unless she has sent a previous mail saying what
MB> it is. I read her mails in plain text, also.

MB> And I long ago stopped her from sending me those commercial greeting
MB> cards. I told her I was deleting them unopened.

MB> She hasn't cut me out of her will, yet, so I reckon I'm managing okay
MB> even though she uses a client I don't trust. :)



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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 06:38:24 -0500, Allie Martin wrote:

AM> Fernandez wrote:

GL>>> That said, you can retrieve the entire message, external images and
GL>>> all, even in 1.62. All you have to do is double-click the icon for the
GL>>> HTML page to open it in your default browser. So, if you want to
GL>>> subscribe to newsletters that you trust and that contain external
GL>>> images, you can even with TB 1.x

>> Yes we all know that, it'll open the browser. But this is not the
>> topic of the discussion.

AM> The interesting thing too is that if you open the message in your
AM> browser, the risks are still there in terms of security and privacy.

Yes, that is definately true.  Personally, out of all the suggested
approaches, I favor the button (that is OFF each time you open an HTML
message) that allows you to click it and toggle display of remote
images for that message (and that message only).

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 at 02:22:58 +, MFPA wrote:

M> Hi

M> On Saturday 5 February 2005 at 2:29:09 PM, in
M> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Calvarese wrote:

>> Even being able to take certain addresses as 'safe' to
>> automaticly display the images for them. Like Amazon, I'm pretty
>> sure their emails are safe.

M> How thoroughly do you filter, so that emails apparently from
M> Amazon _cannot_ be spoofed?

There is that... but we have to put a level of trust in someplace...

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 14:33:26 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK> on 05-Feb-2005 at 12:24 you (Marck D Pearlstone) wrote:

>> Preferences..Viewer/Editor..Default message/text editor.

ASK> D'oh - its already there... :-)

ASK> What we need now is some solution for the remote images, as described in
ASK> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=920 (one possible solution).

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I was talking about.

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 12:48:31 +, Geoff Lane wrote:

GL> On 05 February 2005, 10:46, Tony Boom wrote:

>>  To be honest, I'm easy either way. I have no problem with displaying html
>>  images direct from the web in email, it can't hurt can it?
GL> ~~~

GL> I, for one, am very glad that TB won't display external images, and
GL> it's the main reason why I was prepared to pay for TB rather than use
GL> one of the numerous freebie MUAs.

GL> External images can be used for malevolent purposes. For example, as
GL> web beacons to track your usage, or for spammers to verify your e-mail
GL> address. So, yes, displaying html images direct from the web in e-mail
GL> can hurt.

Yes, I agree it *CAN* hurt, that's why it should be an option.
Display the message with the images disabled, and then click a button
to display the images if it's safe to do so.  Even being able to take
certain addresses as 'safe' to automaticly display the images for
them.  Like Amazon, I'm pretty sure their emails are safe.

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 12:52:44 +0100, Jurgen Haug wrote:

JH>>> yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some people
JH>>> to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail.

>> Preferences..Viewer/Editor..Default message/text editor.

>> Enjoy. (Or shudder, as I do).

JH> The problem is, that I am using TB! at work, too (which in
JH> itself is not a problem but a blessing), but in the last 4 or 5
JH> places I been working the rule was  'You have to have HTML mail
JH> switched on by default, and you have to use this and that template
JH> for your mails' - which usually included some colourful and larger
JH> text font for the name and the company logo above/below it.

JH> My present work place is the worst. The administrator has set
JH> the mail server so that it turnes ANY incoming mail into an HTML
JH> mail, and ALL outgoing mails are turned into HTML mails as well.
JH> ARGH! I am using now my own mailserver for my private mails I send
JH> out, but I can't do that for my business mail.

God, I had a boss that wanted to do that at work.  I discouraged him
by pulling a 'Scotty' on him and giving him a way overblown cost
estimate for it and justifying it with a lot of 'technobabble', all
for the good of the company.  Thank god that boss isn't with us any
more.

Though I can understand it kinda, guess they're trying to build 'name
recognition and give everything a 'uniform and professional look'.  I
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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 22:02:41 +1100, Ian A. White wrote:

IAW> Thorvald,

IAW> On Saturday, February 5, 2005, 9:34:50 PM, you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

TN>> Hæ!

TN>> Saturday, February 5, 2005, 11:13, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
>>> Decide whats best for you, and let other people decide whats best for
>>> them...

TN>> Yes, sure.

TN>> But I hate to see TB having the HTML mode on as a default.

IAW> I don't think that this is what was ever suggested as a general
IAW> setting for all installations of the The Bat!. What was suggested
IAW> was that an individual user could set HTML as default on their own
IAW> system so that it would not be necessary for them to have to toggle it
IAW> each time for particular recipients.

If I recall Netscape/Mozilla mail used to have the option in the
address book for tagging contacts as 'This person prefers plain text
email' or 'this person prefers HTML email' or 'Send Both'.  Something
along those lines would work nicely too for TB! I think.


TN>> Because I am "educating" my clients to use plain text emails,
TN>> preferably with TB as their standard mailer.

IAW> I agree, however there are times where it is simpler to use HTML for
IAW> e-mail. As an example, I needed to send my father a series of
IAW> photographs converted to JPG images. He was in his 90's and trying to
IAW> get him to work with attachments was impossible. The simplest way to
IAW> get the images to him was to create the message in HTML and insert the
IAW> images directly in the message itself so that he could see the image
IAW> without any further fiddling and see any notes about the image
IAW> following it. The same goes when sending a client photographs with
IAW> comments on them in a message rather than comments and attachments
IAW> that have to be matched separately.

I had to send an email to Stellram customer support about some broken
carbide inserts for a steel mill... Had to send HTML email with the
images embeded like that for them as well.   There ARE times HTML
email is quite handy.  I have to use Outlook at work because of it
(though all my personal email goes through TB! now.)


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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 11:08:06 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK> on 05-Feb-2005 at 09:16 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:

>>> This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail.

>> No, sorry, this would let many people go away.

ASK> Should be made configurable. Whats the problem with a switch that defines
ASK> the default editor?

Exactly, I'm pretty sure that's what he originally meant, not turning
TB! into incredimail (Yuck).

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 09:16:42 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote:

TN> Hæ!

TN> Saturday, February 5, 2005, 08:09, Jurgen Haug wrote:
>> This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new mail.

TN> No, sorry, this would let many people go away.

TN> HTML should not be used for emails.

I think he means 'The Option to have new mails default to HTML instead
of text' Not all mails being HTML.

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 10:33:53 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote:

TN> Hæ!

TN> Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote:
>> Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you
>> really need it.

TN> No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all.

I see more use in being able to receive HTML emails than send them...
If just for NewEgg, Amazon, Circuitcity sales emails. :)

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 10:33:53 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote:

TN> Hæ!

TN> Saturday, February 5, 2005, 10:25, Mic Cullen wrote:
>> Sometimes it's extremely useful. Rarely, but when you need it, you
>> really need it.

TN> No, sorry. I do not see any sense in using HTML for emails at all.

I see more use in being able to receive H

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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 08:09:50 +0100, Jurgen Haug wrote:

MR>>> I don't think you can download images directly into the message pane,
MR>>> but you should be able to open the attached HTML document into a
MR>>> browser if you really want to see all the images.

>> Yeah, I know that.  He wants to be able to open the images right in
>> the menu pane like Thunderbird or Pocomail does.

JH> yeah that would be nice, it would have made me convert some
JH> people to TB! This and HTML mail as standard when you start a new
JH> mail. Each time I show collegues TB! (am the only one using that
JH> at work) that's one of the first things that makes them go away.

I don't see why they couldn't add it.  Pocomail does it quite well,
having the images disabled by default and then having to click a
button to display all the 'advanced html' and images.  Just like Gmail
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Re: Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 20:27:26 -0800, Melissa Reese wrote:

>> Is there a way to make TB! display remote images in an HTML mail for
>> email that we know is safe? Say from like Amazon.com or Newegg.com?
>> I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to switch over to TB!

MR> I don't think you can download images directly into the message pane,
MR> but you should be able to open the attached HTML document into a
MR> browser if you really want to see all the images.

Yeah, I know that.  He wants to be able to open the images right in
the menu pane like Thunderbird or Pocomail does.

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Remote Images in HTML mail?

[David Calvarese]

Hey All,

  Is there a way to make TB! display remote images in an HTML mail for
  email that we know is safe?  Say from like Amazon.com or Newegg.com?
  I'm trying to convince a friend of mine to switch over to TB!

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Re: Registration Code

[David Calvarese]

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 at 12:02:25 +1100, John Phillips wrote:

>> Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10

JP> Is this the latest release?

Nope, latest Beta.  The latest release is V3.0.1.something.

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Registration Code

[David Calvarese]

Hey All,

  I finally got my reg code for V3!  YAY ME!   *coughCough* Sorry
  about that. :)

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Re: Catch-22, Kafka-esque - Take Your Pick: Can't Get Registration Help

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 12:43:17 +0100, Gerard wrote:

DC>> Upgrading is even better right now too, with the 30% offer... I just
DC>> hope I don't get screwed over on that with CIFNet.

G> Hi David,

G> I am nit sure but don't you need your password for the V3 upgrade version to?

G> This ia a long shot but I bought my copy via a local reseller and he used my
G> Postal Code as password as default for all the purchases.
G> Could something similar have happened to you or did you personally enter the 
PW?

G> If you entered it yourself, I believe there is no maximum number of tries 
and I
G> would suggest you just enter the most likely 50 options for a PW you can 
thing
G> of. I find myself using only  a couple of different PW anyway.

G> And a last suggestion. I have added a note to the serial number email with 
my PW.

G> Good luck.

I shouldn't need it, like I said, I purchased a new license since the
pricing came out the same with the 30% off.  If it gets him through
this problem, I'm happy to help.

V2 didn't use the password scheme I believe, and V3 uses a Key Block
to register it.

Myself, I keep a .txt file with all my registration information in it for
EVERY program that I register.  I even keep the old versions cause you
never know when you'll need it.

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Re: Catch-22, Kafka-esque - Take Your Pick: Can't Get Registration Help

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 03:11:10 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> Dear David,

MDP> @3-Feb-2005, 22:03 -0500 (04-Feb 03:03 UK time) David Calvarese [DC]
MDP> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP>>> "CIFnet" is one clue.

DC>> I feel his pain.  I'm stuck waiting for CIFNe to process a paypal
DC>> payment for V3.  At least I'm EARLY in my trial period...  If it's not
DC>> fixed soon, I'll just complain to paypal and get a refund then buy
DC>> through someone else.

MDP> Indeed. I have to commend Element5 at this point.

MDP> ... 

MDP>>> Failing this, upgrade, in stages, to v3 via 1.62 and buy an update for
MDP>>> v3. That will get you up, running and up to date all at once.

MDP>>> I hope this helps somewhat. Sorry if the tone seems a little harsh in
MDP>>> places but I do notice a number of self-inflicted wounds here!

DC>> Failing that... I still have my V1 reg information (all three pieces!)

DC>> Since I bought a new licence for V3 instead of an upgrade, I don't
DC>> think there'd be any problem if I gave him my V1 info, would
DC>> there? With the understanding that he should upgrade to V3 ASAP
DC>> afterwords of course.

MDP> As a means to an end to rescue Jarold, I can't see any real objection
MDP> .. provided that it truly is a transitory get-out on the way to v3
MDP> which, let's face it, isn't at all a bad place to be headed.

I have to admit that I like V3.  I was a bit worried that it would run
slow on my older laptop.  Microsoftophobia, the fear that software
upgrades will force a hardware upgrade. :)  But it actually runs very
well.  Faster than using webmail even.

Upgrading is even better right now too, with the 30% offer... I just
hope I don't get screwed over on that with CIFNet.

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Re: Catch-22, Kafka-esque - Take Your Pick: Can't Get Registration Help

[David Calvarese]

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 02:43:59 +, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> Dear Jerrold,

MDP> @3-Feb-2005, 21:22 -0500 (04-Feb 02:22 UK time) Jerrold Mundis [JM] in
MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

JM>> Will one of the moderators -- or anyone with any kind of connection at
JM>> all with Ritlabs -- please tell me how I can get my Password Key, or
JM>> in any other way resolve the problem?

MDP> "CIFnet" is one clue.

I feel his pain.  I'm stuck waiting for CIFNe to process a paypal
payment for V3.  At least I'm EARLY in my trial period...  If it's not
fixed soon, I'll just complain to paypal and get a refund then buy
through someone else.


MDP> Okay - so much for the "should haves". If you still have access to the
MDP> system registry on the old system, use RegEdit to navigate to
MDP> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\ as you did before. This time
MDP> *click on that folder*. The right hand panel of the RegEdit screen
MDP> fills with the Keys. One is the SoftwareRegistrationId. It isn't a
MDP> folder. It's a key within the folder. Not that it will help you to
MDP> make use of it from there per-se. What you should do is to export the
MDP> whole "The Bat!" folder using Regedit's File..Export function. Run up
MDP> the resulting .reg file on the new system and you should be instantly
MDP> registered.

MDP> Failing this, upgrade, in stages, to v3 via 1.62 and buy an update for
MDP> v3. That will get you up, running and up to date all at once.

MDP> I hope this helps somewhat. Sorry if the tone seems a little harsh in
MDP> places but I do notice a number of self-inflicted wounds here!

Failing that... I still have my V1 reg information (all three pieces!)

Since I bought a new licence for V3 instead of an upgrade, I don't
think there'd be any problem if I gave him my V1 info, would there?
With the understanding that he should upgrade to V3 ASAP afterwords of
course.

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Re[2]: Blind Copy Header

[David Calvarese]

Hello Eric,

Saturday, March 13, 2004, 9:49:07 AM, you wrote:

E> ("X-Archive","encrypt") On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:33:34 +
E> GMT(13/03/2004, 13:33 + GMT), David Elliott wrote:

N>>> Because I was BCCed (Blind Copy) into the email his
N>>> email client had inserted the following.

N>>> IMPORTANT! This message has been blind-carbon-copied to
N>>> you. Do not reply-to-all or forward it without the
N>>> author's permission.

N>>> Is it possible to get TB to do this as well on a Blind
N>>> Copy

DE>> That would be good.

E> I'd very much like that too.

Yeah, that'd be really great.


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Re[2]: URLs

[David Calvarese]

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 10:10:50 AM, you wrote:

JA> On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, David Calvarese wrote...

DC>>>> Is there any way to make TB! open URLS in a new IE window
DC>>>> instead of reusing an open one?

MDP>>> Yes. Shift click on the URL.

>> Helpful. :) But I meant open then that way by default.

JA> In Internet Explorer, go to Tools - Internet Options - Advanced.
JA> Search through the list of check boxes for one similar to "reuse
JA> windows for new shortcuts" or something to that affect. They keep
JA> changing the names on the damn things. See if that helps.

Thanks!  That seems to have worked!

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Re[2]: URLs

[David Calvarese]

Hello Jernej,

Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 10:14:02 AM, you wrote:

JS> On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 15:21:55, David Calvarese wrote:

>> Helpful. :)  But I meant open then that way by default.

JS> It's not possible without breaking other browsers.


I'm sure it is, as the Agent news program can do it as well as other email software 
doing it.

All it needs to do is make sure to call a new instance of the browser, though I'm not 
sure of the technical details of how they do that.

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Re[2]: URLs

[David Calvarese]

Hello Marck,

Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 9:16:26 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Dear David,

MDP> @10-Mar-2004, 09:13 -0500 (10-Mar 14:13 UK time) David Calvarese
MDP> [DC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DC>> Is there any way to make TB! open URLS in a new IE window
DC>> instead of reusing an open one?

MDP> Yes. Shift click on the URL.


Helpful. :)  But I meant open then that way by default.

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URLs

[David Calvarese]

Is there any way to make TB! open URLS in a new IE window instead of reusing an open 
one?  

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Re[2]: Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Hello Urban,

Friday, March 5, 2004, 10:31:11 PM, you wrote:

U> Saturday, March 6, 2004, David Calvarese wrote:

>>>> But I recall getting some really nice templates from the group before.
>>>> I just don't recall from who.

U>>> What did they do?

>> Unfortunately, I don't remember.  I do know they were mostly for us in reply 
>> templates.

U> 



U> Is that what you want?

Not really, though it did help me get my old tagline back. :)  I was more looking for 
templates (message templates and QTs) that people in the group used so I could 
reconstruct my own again.


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Re[2]: Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Hello dAniel,

Saturday, March 6, 2004, 12:10:10 AM, you wrote:

dh> on Fri, 5. Mar 2004 at 17:55:45 -0500 rich gregory wrote:



dh> In general, I have a 'message' and 'reply' Quick-template (I do not
dh> forward often) that is simply included for my account's newmail/reply
dh> templates and I don't have special templates for folders, AB groups or
dh> contacts.
dh> These QTs both include (%QInclude) a #init template (which gets my
dh> fromaddr, the "hello name", checks if the mail should be
dh> signed/encrypted, ..) and afterwards generate the headers ("xx
dh> wrote:") and in case of reply cleans the subject, gets the proper
dh> address, ...

dh> That seems a bit complicated, but is in fact very good to maintain.
dh> And instead fiddling around with different AB templates I simply have
dh> to adjust my main templates a bit.

dh> HTH :)


That sounds like how I'd like to get mine set up.


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Re[4]: Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Hello Peter,

Friday, March 5, 2004, 8:43:09 PM, you wrote:

PO> Hello David Calvarese,

PO> on Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:31:19 -0500 (2004-03-06 02:31:19 in .nl) in the
PO> message with reference <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you
PO> [DC] wrote (at least in part):

DC>> Unfortunately, I don't remember.  I do know they were mostly for us
DC>> in reply templates.

DC>> IIRC, one of them took care of the Hello line for mailing lists
DC>> and the other fixed the to field for mailing lists.

DC>> Those are probably the two I need MOST.

DC>> I'm on a LOT of mailing lists.

PO> So . . .

PO> I tend to remember a 'manager in ballon' story . . .



Manager in ballon?

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Re[2]: Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Hello Urban,

Friday, March 5, 2004, 4:51:13 PM, you wrote:

U> Friday, March 5, 2004, David Calvarese wrote:

>> But I recall getting some really nice templates from the group before.
>> I just don't recall from who.

U> What did they do?

Unfortunately, I don't remember.  I do know they were mostly for us in reply templates.

IIRC, one of them took care of the Hello line for mailing lists and the other fixed 
the to field for mailing lists.

Those are probably the two I need MOST.

I'm on a LOT of mailing lists.

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Re[2]: Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Friday, March 5, 2004, 3:22:01 PM, you wrote:

MDP> Dear David,

MDP> @5-Mar-2004, 15:14 -0500 (05-Mar 20:14 UK time) David Calvarese [DC]
MDP> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DC>> Does anyone have any that they would be willing to send to me?
DC>> I got all mine off of here before and off of a web page which
DC>> seems to be currently down.
DC>> (http://www.immer-international.de/tb_en/index.html)

DC>> I pretty much need ALL the cool stuff again.

MDP> What about the Macro Library in the official FAQ?!?!?

MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html


Well, I did plunder that for some of them.  But I recall getting some really nice 
templates from the group before.  I just don't recall from who.



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Templates/Macros

[David Calvarese]

Well,  I'm back to using TB once again since I switched away from using MSN (Thank 
God!)


Unfortunately, I seem to have lost all the macros/templates that I had before...

So

Does anyone have any that they would be willing to send to me?  I got all mine off of 
here before and off of a web page which seems to be currently down. 
(http://www.immer-international.de/tb_en/index.html)

I pretty much need ALL the cool stuff again.

Thanks in advance!

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Re[2]: Too many 0 byte batXXX.tmp files under %temp% dir

[David Calvarese]

Hello Chris,

Saturday, November 1, 2003, 7:03:46 PM, you wrote:

C> On Saturday, November 1, 2003 at 3:31:50 PM, Mark Wieder wrote in the
C> message "Too many 0 byte batXXX.tmp files under %temp% dir"
C> :

>> I hate to say this about a Microsoft product, but win2k has been
>> amazingly stable for me.

C> Is that a problem? If so, Windows XP is worse (it's more stable). My
C> computer only restarts when I tell it to.


You want to talk about a really stable Microsoft Product...  XBox and
XBox Live...  Good solid gaming platform and online gaming service for
it.

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Re: Woody's EMAIL Essentials?

[David Calvarese]

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:44:50 +0100, "Julian Beach (Lists)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hello TB! Users,
> 
> Has anyone see Woody's Email Essentials yet?  This is another free
> e-zine from the Woody's Office Watch stable, and all about Email.
> 
> At the moment the e-zine is very Outlook and OE focussed, but they do
> mention other clients. Perhaps they need some comments from TBUDL
> about the best email client there is, as it is a pity that so many of
> their readers don't know about TB!


Myself, I'm planning on switching back to TB! once IMAP support works to
my liking...  I did go ahead and shell out the $17.50 for the upgrade
from 1.XX to 2.xx though, since I know that it WILL get fixed.  Till
then, I'll just use fastmail's web interface... Which is probably the
second best email client I've seen yet... It's a close thing though.

Dave

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Re: Spampal and NOD POPscan

[David Calvarese]

Hi The Bat! User Discussion list,
  
 On Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:08:46GMT -0500 (which was 9:08 PM where I live)
  Joseph N. wrote and made these points on the subject of "Spampal and NOD POPscan":
JN>On Saturday, April 05, 2003, David Calvarese wrote in
JN> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DC>> http://www.spampal.org

JN> David and Luc,

JN> Thank you.  I'll try Spampal.  One question about setup, though.

JN> Normally, I would have TB! connecting on port x to my AV's POPscanner,
JN> which then connects out on port 110. Is it correct that I should keep
JN> Spampal tuned in to the default port 110, and let Windows or Spampal
JN> or my AV POPscanner figure out the rest? Or is there a better way to
JN> go?

I know with the 2.x betas (and presumably the release) the easiest way
is to have spampal listen on port 111 and Nod32 set to monitor port
111 so it doesn't scan both before and after spampal.

With the 1.x releases, umm, I forget how it needs to be set up in Nod.

I THINK that you need to either do:

   Mail Client -> SpamPal -> AV

Or

   Mail Client -> AV -> SpamPal

My guess is that the first is better so the AV can scan stuff before
SpamPal looks at it.

I think you need to have Spampal set on another port, lets say 111 and
Nod32 have port 110 set to go to your mail server then tell TB! that
the server is localhost and the username is @localhost where
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Re: UBE

[David Calvarese]

Hi The Bat! User Discussion list,
  
 On Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:06:24GMT -0500 (which was 8:06 PM where I live)
  Joseph N. wrote and made these points on the subject of "UBE":
JN> Okay, I surrender. I have been content with dealing with spam on a
JN> per-email basis, using the dispatch on server feature, or just dealing
JN> with the minor inconvenience. But now it's no longer a minor
JN> inconvenience. Interestingly, I get almost no spam from the address I
JN> use on mailing lists, newsgroups, and sign-ups; the spam I get comes
JN> mostly into my registered domain and my primary address. In any event,
JN> I now need to deal with it, but have spent no attention to the various
JN> postings here on what to use or how. Is there a handy-dandy program or
JN> Internet site to which someone can direct me to start my search for a
JN> tool? (And, does anyone know *why* most of the spam would be coming in
JN> to an address that I rarely use except for business and social
JN> connections?)

 
Your search starts and ends here: http://www.spampal.org

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Re: Question About The Bat Structure and Temp Files in XP

[David Calvarese]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

 On Thursday, March 27, 2003 at 15:05:29GMT -0500 (which was 3:05 PM
 where I live) 
  Kim wrote and made these points on the subject of "Question About The Bat
Structure and Temp Files in XP":


K> With the Bat, things seemed to work a bit differently. When I went
K> through the process of pulling the file off of the server, Kaspersky
K> flagged the infected mail immediately...so quickly in fact, that I
K> later found the message was still on the server. The only remnant on


With TB!  Your best bet is to use the Kaspersky plugin and let TB!
itself handle the infected mails instead of scanning durring the
download.


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Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/
Comment: KeyID: 0x99B71F2ECC7E7664
Comment: Fingerprint: 20C3 F51F AFFC 90F2 A36E  A348 99B7 1F2E CC7E 7664

iQA/AwUBPoNitJm3Hy7MfnZkEQI33ACg0OMBYy3sA/q6G2PpDwQFUE2rydIAn0Cw
nphkr+whXGw//m6Vd3vu5b+/
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Portability

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Well, after trying the program called "The Batch" that was
  mentioned, I found a big problem with it...  It doesn't like going
  form XP to 98 machines.

  Anyone else have any suggestions for making a portable version of
  TB! for use on a USB-Flash drive?

  In other news, I tried PocoMail PE and would like to report that
  next to TB! it sucks badly...  So bad that I feel it's unusable.

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Re: SOT: mail servers

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 26, 2003 at 12:39:02GMT -0600 (which was 1:39 PM where I live)
  Joseph N. wrote and made these points on the subject of "SOT:  mail servers":
JN> Anyone here care to venture an opinion on Merak and Postcast mail
JN> servers? Anyone have another to recommend? Mercury does not include XP
JN> among its supported O/Ss.

JN> (Seems to be getting tougher and tougher to send mail: first my ISP
JN> prevented me from using its SMTP server because my domain was not
JN> registered through them, and now some companies that use lookups are
JN> rejecting my mail because I'm using my web host's SMTP, which is
JN> listed as an open relay. Thus, my need for my own SMTP, and this
JN> request for opinions.)

  I'm pretty sure Mercury works on XP even though it doesn't say so.

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Re: Links?

[David Calvarese]

 On Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 19:50:53GMT +0100 (which was 1:50 PM where I live)
  Miguel A. Urech wrote and made these points on the subject of "Links?":
>> What, other than http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat and
>> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html ? I don't know of many
>> others.

MAU>   http://www.immer-international.de/tb_en/index.html
MAU>   http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/
MAU>   http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml
MAU>   http://www.regenechsen.de/regex_en/regex_1_en.html

 Cool!  That's 3 I didn't have.

Here's a couple more.

http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbmaq.htm
http://www.pro-privacy.de/pgp/tb/en/sitemap.htm (Also has German)

Maybe we need to compile a master list of stuff and put someplace with
links to downloadable sounds and glyphs and 3rd party utilities that
work well with TB!


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Re: The Bat! Portable?

[David Calvarese]

 On Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 19:36:38GMT +0100 (which was 1:36 PM where I live)
  Carsten Thönges wrote and made these points on the subject of "The Bat! Portable?":
CT> * David Calvarese writes:

>>   Does anyone have any experiance installing and using TB! from a
>> portable drive, such as a USB-flash drive?

CT>  , [ c&p from http://www.snurl.com/thebatch ]
CT>  | [...]
CT>  |
CT>  | Description:

CT>  |
CT>  | The Batch! is a loader for the program The Bat! (probably the best
CT>  `

CT> Just for info: I did never use/install/see this tool in real life
CT> nor do I have any idea who the author is... so be careful. But maybe
CT> this is what you are looking for and I HTH.
 
Hrm, that may just do what I want.  I was asking because I'd been
looking at Pocomail Portable Edition  It's make things much easier
in the long run.  It'd be really neat if I could install SpamPal onto
the flash drive as well and have a fully contained email system anyplace
I go.

Thanks!

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Re: Links?

[David Calvarese]

 On Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 17:24:41GMT + (which was 12:24 PM where I live)
  Marck D Pearlstone wrote and made these points on the subject of "Links?":
MDP> @25-Mar-2003, 11:48 -0500 (16:48 UK time) David Calvarese [DC] in
MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DC>>   Does anyone have any links to The Bat! pages in english?  I've ran
DC>> across some that appear to be in German or something
DC>> (http://www.bat.caschy.org/ and
DC>> http://home.arcor.de/thebat/)  , so I was just
DC>> wondering if there are any English language resource pages out there...

MDP> What, other than http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat and
MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBFAQ.html ? I don't know of many
MDP> others.

 I knew about those two, just wondered if there were other resources out
there for TB users in English.

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Links?

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Does anyone have any links to The Bat! pages in english?  I've ran
across some that appear to be in German or something
(http://www.bat.caschy.org/ and http://home.arcor.de/thebat/)  , so I was just
wondering if there are any English language resource pages out there...

Dave
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The Bat! Portable?

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Does anyone have any experiance installing and using TB! from a
portable drive, such as a USB-flash drive?

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Re: Very important issue has come to my attention!!

[David Calvarese]

 On Tuesday, March 25, 2003 at 07:57:50GMT -0500 (which was 7:57 AM where I live)
  Spike wrote and made these points on the subject of "Very important issue has come 
to my attention!!":
S> Hello tbudl'ers and the other TB! lists,

S> Sorry for the cross-post, but I feel it is VERY important to get the
S> word out on this.

S> I received a very ominous message today from another mailing list.  I
S> have enclosed it in its entirety below.  Read it and weep!  Please
S> note that the MapQuest return for the listing even includes an aerial
S> PHOTO of your home or business location!!

*SNICKER*  They got my address way wrong... Wrong City by about 400
miles.

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Re: Execute a manual filter

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 23, 2003 at 14:47:25GMT -0800 (which was 5:47 PM where I live)
  Michael L. Wilson wrote and made these points on the subject of "Execute a manual 
filter":
MLW> Historians believe that on Sunday, March 23, 2003 , at 17:39:44[GMT
MLW> -0500](which was 2:39 PM where I live) you wrote:

DC>>  Try setting it active...  I've noticed in mine that I have to have both
DC>> active and manual only selected.



MLW> How do I make a filter universal so that it works for all accounts and
MLW> all folders.  This may be my problem, if it is not universal.

 As far as I know, you need to copy them to each account.

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Re: Execute a manual filter

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 23, 2003 at 14:46:12GMT -0800 (which was 5:46 PM where I live)
  Michael L. Wilson wrote and made these points on the subject of "Execute a manual 
filter":
MLW> Historians believe that on Sunday, March 23, 2003 , at 17:39:44[GMT
MLW> -0500](which was 2:39 PM where I live) you wrote:

DC>>  On Sunday, March 23, 2003 at 14:07:51GMT -0800 (which was 5:07 PM where I 
live)
DC>>   Michael L. Wilson wrote and made these points on the
DC>> subject of "Execute a manual filter":
MLW>>> Historians believe that on Sunday, March 23, 2003 , at 16:00:05[GMT
MLW>>> -0600](which was 2:00 PM where I live) you wrote:

DC>> 
MLW>>> C:\temp does exist
MLW>>> Nothing in my sent folder

DC>>  Try setting it active...  I've noticed in mine that I have to have both
DC>> active and manual only selected.

MLW> It seems to work if it is still in my inbox, but if I move it to a
MLW> spam folder to read it later, and that folder is a common folder, it
MLW> will not work from there.

Weird... I'm not using any common folders in mine though, but the filter
still works from anyplace I've run it so far.

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Storage

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Here's something I thought some of you might be interested in,
especially those of you that use TB! on 2 different computers (work and
home) and like to keep them in sync.

TigerDirect has a USB 'keychain' type drive for $9.99 after a $20 rebate for a
64MB unit.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=S450-6064

The 128MB unit is $24.99 after a $25 rebate.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=S450-6128

And the 256MB is $49.99 after a $25 rebate

 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=S450-6256


I ordered the 128MB one myself. Should be great for carry TB data, PGP
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Re: Execute a manual filter

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 23, 2003 at 14:07:51GMT -0800 (which was 5:07 PM where I live)
  Michael L. Wilson wrote and made these points on the subject of "Execute a manual 
filter":
MLW> Historians believe that on Sunday, March 23, 2003 , at 16:00:05[GMT
MLW> -0600](which was 2:00 PM where I live) you wrote:




MLW> C:\temp does exist
MLW> Nothing in my sent folder

MLW> Thanks for the continued help

 Try setting it active...  I've noticed in mine that I have to have both
active and manual only selected.

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Re: Problem with large file attachments?

[David Calvarese]

 On Saturday, March 22, 2003 at 01:50:55GMT + (which was 8:50 PM where I live)
  Mike Alexander wrote and made these points on the subject of "Problem with large 
file attachments?":
MA> Saturday, March 22, 2003, 1:14:27 PM, you wrote:



MP>> ZDNet Downloads for:

MP>> Free Version   Pro Version
MP>> ZoneAlarm 16,808,637   109,009
MP>> OutPost   39,035 1,860

MP>> This doesn't mean Outpost is inferior to ZA; but, with these numbers in
MP>> mind, it is not abnormal that it will be easier to find someone with a
MP>> ZA-related problem than someone with an Outpost-related problem.

MA> Actually it means even less as most Outpost downloads are from their
MA> sites round the world :)


 There is exactly one feature that I can think of that ZA has that I
wish Outpost did The little network activity display when it's in
the system tray.

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Re: Disappearing Subject

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 21, 2003 at 20:52:08GMT -0800 (which was 11:52 PM where I live)
  Michael L. Wilson wrote and made these points on the subject of "Disappearing 
Subject":
MLW>   When I reply to messages and use the "fixsub" macro from
MLW>   http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html
MLW>   The subject disappears.

MLW>   Does anyone have an idea or a fix for this macro?  Here is the macro

MLW> Quick Template 5.Description : Fixup a messy Re: subject
MLW> Handle : FIXSUBJ
MLW> %SUBJECT="Re:%SETPATTREGEXP='(?i)\A(?::?\s*)%- 
(?:(?:\s*(?:fwd|re|aw|fw|antwort|wg|forw)%- (?:\[\d*\])?:\s*)|(?:\s*\[.*\]\s*))*%- 
(.*?)(?:(?:\s*\((?:was|war):.*\)\s*)|%- (?:\((?:PGP|S/MIME)
MLW> Decrypted\)))*\z'%- %REGEXPMATCH='%OSUBJ'"   

 Well, this is what I'm using:

%subject="Re: 
%setpattregexp='(?i)\A\:?(\s*\[.*\])%-?(\s*(re|ha|rcpt|fwd|fw)(\[\d*\])?:\s*)*(.*?)%-(\((PGP)|(S/MIME)
 Decrypted\))?$'%-%RegExpBlindMatch='%OSubj'%SubPatt='5'" %-

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Re: Nod32 + Filtering + Return Email

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 21, 2003 at 09:55:32GMT +0100 (which was 3:55 AM where I live)
  Roelof Otten wrote and made these points on the subject of "Nod32 + Filtering + 
Return Email":
RO> Hallo David,

RO> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:31:46 -0500GMT (21-3-03, 1:31 +0100, where I
RO> live), you wrote:



RO> Since, you're doing a manual reply the message already has the correct
RO> destination and subject line, so the only thing thing you've got to
RO> enter in the 'virus' quick template is this:

RO> ,- [  ]
RO> | Hi %OFromName,
RO> | 
RO> | You sent me a virus, this is my scanner's info:
RO> |
RO> | %SETPATTREGEXP="(__ NOD32.*\n?www.nod32.com)"%-
RO> | %REGEXPBlindMATCH="%Text"%subpatt="1"
RO> | 
RO> | %Clear
RO> `-

RO> I've tested it on the first message in this thread, where you posted a
RO> sample of nod32's message and it worked.

Thanks, though I've adjusted it to the following, anything I can do to
help them track it down after all.

,- [  ]
|  Hi %OFromName,
|
|%WRAPPED="You accidently sent me a virus by email with the following information:"
|
|  DATE:  %ODATE
|  TIME:  %OTIMELONG
|  SUBJECT:   %OSUBJ
|  ATTACHMENT(S): %OATTACHMENTS
|
|Below is the info from my virus scanner:
|
| %SETPATTREGEXP="(__ NOD32.*\n?www.nod32.com)"%-
| %REGEXPBlindMATCH="%Text"%subpatt="1"
|
| %Clear
|
`- [  ]


RO> Just remember to be careful to whom you send it. As Jonathan and
RO> Jernej stated, most modern viruses spoof the from address, so only
RO> reply to the message when you're sure (no when you only think it might
RO> be) about who's the sender of the virus.

I certainly will.  Now if I could just get someone to send me a real
virus so I can test out my setup on something other than the EICAR file.

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Re: Nod32 + Filtering + Return Email

[David Calvarese]

 On Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 00:18:30GMT +0100 (which was 6:18 PM where I live)
  Roelof Otten wrote and made these points on the subject of "Nod32 + Filtering + 
Return Email":
RO> Hallo David,

RO> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:49:41 -0500GMT (20-3-03, 20:49 +0100, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

DC>>  Okay, how about something slightly better then.  A template that
DC>> I can use to manually reply to people I know that sent me a virus
DC>> instead of having it auto send?

RO> That would be easy.
RO> Create a quick template (options - quick templates)
RO> Call it 'virus'
RO> Type the text you'd like to use, something like

RO> ,- [  ]
RO> | %Clear
RO> | Hey dombo,
RO> | 
RO> | Your computer sent me a virus.
RO> `-

RO> The %clear macro is used to wipe all existing text. Whenever you'd
RO> like to warn somebody about a virus that he's sending, you just call
RO> the quick template, as we decided to call it virus, you type virus
RO> immediately followed by Ctrl-space and the quick template will be
RO> executed.


 Yes, but I'd like to have it pull the old subject line from the old
email as well as pull the information that nod appended to the email so
that it can be sent to them, as well as the file name (not the file
itself).

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Re: Nod32 + Filtering + Return Email

[David Calvarese]

 On Thursday, March 20, 2003 at 20:42:21GMT +0100 (which was 2:42 PM where I live)
  Jernej Simončič wrote and made these points on the subject of "Nod32 + Filtering + 
Return Email":
JS> 20. marec 2003, 20:30:16, you wrote:

DC>> What I want to do is to copy that entire block (no matter what the
DC>> version & DB information in it is) to a form reply and mail back to them
DC>> with the name of the attachment included in the text body someplace.

JS> Don't do that! Most of modern viruses fake the From address, and you're not
JS> helping anybody by replying to these messages. Klez found it's way to
JS> yahoogroups mailing lists twice with my address in the From header, both
JS> times I was flooded with "You have a virus!" messages (197 messages the
JS> first time, too many to count the second time). Needless to say, the virus
JS> did not originate from my computer.

 Okay, how about something slightly better then.  A template that I can
use to manually reply to people I know that sent me a virus instead of
having it auto send?

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Nod32 + Filtering + Return Email

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  I've just bought Nod32 AV and I'm using Beta 2.  I've managed to get
TB! to filter infected emails into the quarantine folder without using a
plugin (since it doesn't work with the new version) so I can use IMON...

Now, here's what I want to do.  When I get an infected email in, I want
to send a reply back to the person that sent it (stripping off the
attachment or whatever the virus is in) and notify them of it.
IMON inserts the following line at the bottom of the emails (this is
from the eicar test file):

__ NOD32 1.381 (20030319) Notification  __

Warning, NOD32 Antivirus System has found the following infiltrations in the message:
  eicar.com - Eicar test file - unable to clean

http://www.nod32.com



What I want to do is to copy that entire block (no matter what the
version & DB information in it is) to a form reply and mail back to them
with the name of the attachment included in the text body someplace.


Can anyone help me out here?

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Re: Nod32

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 20:46:29GMT -0600 (which was 9:46 PM where I live)
  Joseph N. wrote and made these points on the subject of "Nod32":
JN> David,

JN>On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, David Calvarese wrote in
JN> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DC>> however, it doesn't scan outgoing emails...

JN> FWIW, I think that scanning outgoing e-mail is a complete waste of
JN> resources and time. If I take sufficient precautions, the chances are
JN> slim that I as a sender would be sending out malicious code
JN> inadvertently; when I am the recipient, someone else's statement that
JN> their e-mail has been scanned on its way to me is meaningless. How
JN> recent were the definition files that were used? How truthful is the
JN> statement? Through what intermediate servers did it pass? For what
JN> specific types of code did the sender scan? And, more to the point,
JN> what do you do differently when you get a supposedly pre-scanned
JN> message? It's not like you turn off your own scanner or exclude the
JN> message from future scans. For all those reasons and more, I think
JN> that outgoing code scanning is meaningful only, and only to a limited
JN> degree, if it is performed by a web mail service on a regular basis
JN> and, therefore, might justify an exception to an otherwise tight spam
JN> filter. I'd be interested in others' comments on this.

 I prefer to have it scan, as I have TB! filtering infected mails into a
folder, especially ones that can't be cleaned that I would then forward
on to the AV company.  I'd prefer to know before one was accidently sent out to
someone for some reason, just for my peace of mind, whether anyone else
knows that I'm scanning it before sending it or not.

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Re: Nod32

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 14:17:56GMT -0600 (which was 3:17 PM where I live)
  Joseph N. wrote and made these points on the subject of "Nod32":
JN> David,

JN>On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, David Calvarese wrote in
JN> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

DC>>   Is the plugin for Nod32 in the
DC>> ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/
DC>> directory the latest version?  It seems to completely lock TB! up when I
DC>> try to use it with the trial version of Nod.

JN> There are one or possible two places in the trial version where a
JN> dialog box comes up asking the user to confirm that it is only an
JN> evaluation copy, or notifying the user that it expires at some point.
JN> My guess is that the mailer plug-in is calling the on-demand scanner,
JN> which in turn is requiring that confirmation, which is not being
JN> provided.  Just a guess.

 Well, I broke down and ended up buying Nod32 (Yay me!) and that did fix
the problem.  Here's some bad news though:  Apparently the plugin won't
work with the latest beta version or the next release...

I've moved to using their imon (the new version of the pop3 scanner),
however, it doesn't scan outgoing emails...

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Re: E-mail address in message body

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 19, 2003 at 20:54:18GMT +0100 (which was 2:54 PM where I live)
  Marcus Ohlström wrote and made these points on the subject of "E-mail address in 
message body":

MO> On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, 14:10, Carsten Thönges wrote:

>> They can send me a mail and I will put them on the same list with
>> you, Thomas, Januk and Miguel.

MO> Yes please, add me to that list.

Please add me too!

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Nod32

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Is the plugin for Nod32 in the ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/
directory the latest version?  It seems to completely lock TB! up when I
try to use it with the trial version of Nod.

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Re: NOD32

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 14, 2003 at 21:25:42GMT + (which was 4:25 PM where I live)
  Mike Alexander wrote and made these points on the subject of "NOD32":
MA> Thursday, March 13, 2003, 8:52:56 AM, you wrote:

WM>> I still fail to understand why people bother with the AV plug-ins

MA> Because those people are responsible and would rather not:

MA> a) Catch a virus themselves and,
MA> b) pass it on to anyone else.

WM>> It just introduces more complexities and potential problems. Keep it
WM>> simple. I know the theoretical benefits. You can see from this list the
WM>> practical results.

MA> Not really. You only hear from people when they have problems. No one
MA> writes in to say "Oh, look my AV works".

MA> I use Norton and it works fine. I've used Norton since 1998 on Win
MA> 9x, NT and 2k and never had a problem with it.

 Do me a favor would you?  Go to pandasoftware.com and run the free
active scan.  If you don't turn up any viruses, then you can toot
Norton's horn...

On my system at work it turned up loads of viruses after having used
McAfee and Norton for years.

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OT: Spampal Group

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  I know this is off topic, but since I know some people on this list
use SpamPal, I just thought I'd mention that there's now a SpamPal
mailing list in English on Yahoo.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spampal-en/

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Re: Using PC-Cillin 2000 Pop 3 Scan with The Bat

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 21:32:51GMT + (which was 4:32 PM where I live)
  Duncan Strand wrote and made these points on the subject of "Using PC-Cillin 2000  
Pop 3 Scan with The Bat":
DS> Mark Partous on Sunday, March 9, 2003, 4:43:22 PM, you scribed:

>> Perhaps this is nothing new to those who allready used PC-Cillin 2000 Pop 3
>> Scan within The Bat

DS> Nope, nightmare trying to figure out how to have Pop3Scan and POPFile
DS> scan together :)

DS> Username ended up as:
DS> 127.0.0.1:meusername/pop.ntlworld.com

Add SpamPal to that...  127.0.0.1:meusername/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: NOD verses AVG or AntiVir ?

[David Calvarese]

 On Wednesday, March 12, 2003 at 23:24:27GMT -0600 (which was 12:24 AM where I 
live)
  John Morse wrote and made these points on the subject of "NOD verses AVG or AntiVir 
?":
JM> I was sent a Virus... my favorite Anti-Virus program Grisoft AVG did
JM> not detect it, and I have the latest update!
JM> NOD32 did not detect it, yes I downloaded the latest update.
JM> I download the Free Anti-virus software AntiVir and it caught it right
JM> away.
JM> Sorry AVG, I've just switched Anti-Virus software!
JM> Sorry NOD, your not getting my money today!

None of my AV software caught it... Norton, Panda, or AVG...  As soon as
I tried to open that zip file though, Panda had a fit and killed the
virus, so I think it has something to do with the way the file is
compressed.   I didn't see the typical "scanning email" notification on
Panda either... Odd.

 

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Cookies and Macros

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  I have a question...

First off, how much can we store in the cookies template in account
properties?

Second, will this macro work to wrap cookies that are really long?
  %WRAPPED="%COOKIE"

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Re:

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 18:33:55GMT -0500 (which was 6:33 PM where I live)
  Allie Martin wrote and made these points on the subject of "":
AM> David Calvarese [DC] wrote:

DC>> On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 18:05:46GMT -0500 (which was 6:05 PM
DC>> where I live) Allie Martin wrote and made these points on the
DC>> subject of "Templates": AM> David Calvarese [DC] wrote:
AM> 

AM> You put a '%-' after the introduction part of your template. As a
AM> result, the quotation was not started in a new line as it should have
AM> been.

Thanks!  Got that fixed.  Glad I'm doing all these templates as QTs so I
don't have to edit all the address book entries.

DC>> Thanks! That's gotten it! There's still alot I need to learn about
DC>> what TB! can do.

AM> The possibilities are really amazing.

No kidding.  Can't wait till they get those bugs out of the b7 so I can
move up to the beta versions.

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Re:

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 00:38:10GMT +0100 (which was 6:38 PM where I live)
  Roelof Otten wrote and made these points on the subject of "":
RO> Hallo David,

RO> On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 18:17:00 -0500GMT (10-3-03, 0:17 +0100, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

DC>> Templates
DC>> X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version:

RO> I received this message rather messed up. It arrived here with an
RO> empty line between the 'Re:' and the 'Templates' that ought to form
RO> the subject header.
RO> Did it go wrong at the list server (so everyone got it) or just at my
RO> ISP?

My fault probably, I had some messed up templates that I'm working on.
And it came back to me rather funky as well, so it's not you.

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Re:

[David Calvarese]

Templates
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   On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 18:05:46GMT -0500 (which was 6:05 PM where I live)
  Allie Martin wrote and made these points on the subject of "Templates": AM> David 
Calvarese [DC] wrote:

DC>> I've got a strange little problem. For some reason, when I reply to
DC>> a message, I've got about 3-4 blank lines between the Hello like and
DC>> the quote header. Any ideas?

AM> If you have macros in your template that only add or adjust header
AM> information, these will take up a line in, although they don't
AM> really add text to the message body.

AM> To prevent their using a line, put '%-' (without the quotation
AM> marks) at the end of the macros.

   Thanks!  That's gotten it!  There's still alot I need to learn about
what TB! can do.

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Templates

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  I've got a strange little problem.  For some reason, when I reply to a
  message, I've got about 3-4 blank lines between the Hello like and the
  quote header.  Any ideas?

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Re: simple feature request

[David Calvarese]

 On Sunday, March 09, 2003 at 18:29:28GMT -0400 (which was 5:29 PM where I live)
  Task Control wrote and made these points on the subject of "simple feature request":
TC> Hellow tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com

TC>   i wish:
TC>   - a shortcut key to: Send And Check for all.

TC>   I never use Check for all, i never use Send for all

As a quick fix, I think you could check the combined send and receive
box for each account, then a check all would send and receive for all of
them, I think.

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Re: Yahoo Ads

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 07, 2003 at 02:22:58GMT + (which was 9:22 PM where I live) 
  Marck D Pearlstone wrote and made these points on the subject of "Yahoo Ads":


MDP> (pssst - the standard "Quote extraction" macro set in the Library
MDP> already does this for you).

MDP> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#quote+extraction


Thanks!

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Re: Yahoo Ads

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 07, 2003 at 21:03:13GMT -0500 (which was 9:03 PM where I live) 
  Roberto Machorro wrote and made these points on the subject of "Yahoo Ads":
RM> I'll give this some thought over the weekend. If I add up all seconds
RM> or minutes I've spent deleting junk from e-mail before I start my reply
RM> I'd cry.

RM> Thanks for your tip! I'll come back with some results.


RM> Roberto

Hey, that's what this group is for! :) And thank you if you can get it
to work.

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Re: Yahoo Ads

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 07, 2003 at 20:37:57GMT -0500 (which was 8:37 PM where I live) 
  Roberto Machorro wrote and made these points on the subject of "Yahoo Ads":
RM> Hi

RM> I've been wanting to do this, too. I know how to create the RegEx to
RM> identify the Yahoo stuff (I've done it in Perl before), but I don't
RM> know where to put it in a filter...

RM> Roberto


RM> Friday, March 7, 2003, 8:17:28 PM, you wrote:
>> Hello All,

>>   Okay,  I'm getting annoyed at having to cut out all the yahoo adds on
>>   the Yahoo group emails when I reply to one...

>>   Does anyone have a macro to automatically cut them out?


Actually, it doesn't need to go into a filter, but into the reply
Template _I Think_.  I might just be getting my wire's crossed...  But I
think that if you put it into the quote= line of the reply template,
it'll work...

For example, this is what my current reply template has in it:

[Begin All One Line]
%quotes="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(^-+ eGroups.*~-~>.*-*_->$\s+){0,1}
(^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(- --\s*\n|
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""4"""
[End All One Line]

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Yahoo Ads

[David Calvarese]

Hello All,

  Okay,  I'm getting annoyed at having to cut out all the yahoo adds on
  the Yahoo group emails when I reply to one...

  Does anyone have a macro to automatically cut them out?

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Re: open URl with mozilla

[David Calvarese]

 On Friday, March 07, 2003 at 20:50:06GMT +0100 (which was 2:50 PM where I live) 
  Peter Meyns wrote and made these points on the subject of "open URl with mozilla":
PM> Hi David,

PM> on Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:19:01 -0500GMT (07.03.03, 20:19 +0100GMT here),
PM> you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PM>>> You can alter the batch file in the SpamCop submission filter to use
PM>>> the browser of your choice. You don't have to do anything about your
PM>>> default browser. I did it myself, because my default browser, Opera,
PM>>> doesn't recognize the username/password thing. So I use Mozilla for
PM>>> SpamCop reports. :-)

DC>> It's not that, I have no problems about it using IE...  What I really
DC>> want is to not have to use that batch file so i don't have to close
DC>> command windows that linger open after opening the web browser.

PM> I don't have those lingering windows. Add "exit" (without the quotes) as
PM> the last line of your batch file and save. That should do it. :-)


Okay, I'll give that a try, THANKS!


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