Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.
Hello, I've an odd problem with running The Bat and NAV2005 and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas or come across the problem before. I upgraded NAV2000 to NAV2005 the other day for some strange reason which I cannot yet fathom out!* On starting up TB the splash screen opens followed by the main TB 3 pane window. At this stage the Connection Centre would normally open but it doesn't. I get a musical 'ping' followed by a typically useful windows(bat) error message of " 'System Error Code 87' 'The parameter is in correct' " with an invition to click it's sole 'OK' button. On clicking the OK button all I'm left with is the main 3 pane window. Email continues to be collected and sent and on clicking 'Get New Mail' the CC appears. But in the accounts column on my left the slider button is at the bottom but the list isn't and I have to use the mouse wheel to scroll down. If I select an account read I can read the messages but I cannot get back into the accounts list. I have to click the window button at the bottom of the screen to be able to get back into the accounts list. Very tiresome! Turning off NAV email protection makes no difference but turning off the auto-protect does. So in effect I turn off NAV to get TB to function normally. Just wondered if anyone had come across this before? *I know that NAV is sometimes considered the spawn of satan so I'm not looking for 'You shouldn't have installed NAV2005' plse. :) Also I know I've got an old Bat, but I like using an old Bat as you can get a good score with an old bat sometimes! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.12.00. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Regarding base: 360385 word(s) BayesIt! 0.5.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Printing a message causes a BSOD
Hello, Thursday, April 29, 2004, 4:40:54 PM, you wrote: DS>> I don't print off messages very often but a week or so ago I noticed DS>> that a few minutes after printing a message I got a BSOD. TF> I am using Win98 as well, and I have not experienced this. I just TF> printed a mail half an hour ago just to check, but my comp is still up TF> and running. I can certainly do it to order now :( The fatal exception OE is always the same address 0028:C0059C8D and occurs four minutes after the printing. It even does the same under this new 2.10.03 version. I'll test it without BayesIt and the one IMAP account I have tomorrow. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.10.03. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Regarding base: 30264 word(s) BayesIt! 0.5.4 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Printing a message causes a BSOD
Hello, Has this been noticed/mentioned before? I don't print off messages very often but a week or so ago I noticed that a few minutes after printing a message I got a BSOD. It cleared, unusually, after pressing the 'return' key although TB had shut down. If I restarted (without a Windows reboot) TB then after a short while the BSOD came up again and TB shutdown. This morning I found the BSOD and TB had shutdown and it wasn't until a bit later that I noticed a print out on the printer which had been printed by one of my filters (a monthly invoice!). Previous TB versions haven't caused this problem. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.10.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Regarding base: 27294 word(s) BayesIt! 0.5 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol
Hello, Friday, March 5, 2004, 12:12:33 PM, you wrote: JBL> On Friday, March 5, 2004, 12:02:21 PM, David Stone wrote: >> Perhaps the original news item is written in HTML and then converted >> into text-only along the way. I think that the & #8364; is an HTML >> special code like & nbsp; is for non-breaking space. JBL> That is the probable answer. £ and $ are not special characters, so JBL> would not need to be shown this way. The ¤ sign appeared fine in your I did notice that the email from you showed the as a square with spokes on each corner which I think is alt0164 ¤. Did you generate it with alt0164, or with alt-Gr 4 which is what I used? -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.04.7. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Displaying the Euro Symbol
Hello, Friday, March 5, 2004, 8:43:08 AM, you wrote: JBL> Hello TB! Users, JBL> I get mail from a daily news email that includes currency symbols. JBL> Whilst the GBP and USD signs appear as they should, the Euro symbol JBL> always appears as a code, as below: >> Eircom valued at up to €1.3bn after pricing >> >> Eircom, Ireland's largest telecommunications operator, set a price JBL> Julian Perhaps the original news item is written in HTML and then converted into text-only along the way. I think that the & #8364; is an HTML special code like & nbsp; is for non-breaking space. Perhaps you need emails from oher users who include the symbol in text only email. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.04.7. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre is empty but the bat cannot shut down
Hello, Thursday, February 26, 2004, 10:51:57 PM, you wrote: B> Hello David, B> Thursday, February 26, 2004, 10:15:18 PM, you wrote: DS>> I've got no connections showing in the CC and my firewall confirms no DS>> pending connections but I cannot shut the bat down normally. DS>> The dialog ' Some tasks are still active...etc' shows up. DS>> Would it be possible to force the bat to close with the seemingly none DS>> functional 'abort' button! B> I normally hit Ctrl Alt Delete and put the Bat to bed in the task B> manager when that happens to me. Abort tasks doesn't seem to close it B> either B> Barry That's what I end up doing but of course on the next restart of the bat the message list focus is lost. We need a button to shut the bat down as if it were exiting. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.04.7. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre is empty but the bat cannot shut down
Hello, I've got no connections showing in the CC and my firewall confirms no pending connections but I cannot shut the bat down normally. The dialog ' Some tasks are still active...etc' shows up. Would it be possible to force the bat to close with the seemingly none functional 'abort' button! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.04.7. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Current version is 2.04.07 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Perhaps a bit off-topic, but a curiosity question here ...
Hello, Monday, February 16, 2004, 5:19:48 PM, you wrote: DP> Hello Dirigo, DP> Monday, February 16, 2004, 8:40:58 AM, you wrote: DP> ... ... D>> "D:\Program Files\thebat.exe has changed since the last time you used D>> it. This could happen if you have updated it recently. Click Detail D>> to see more information (which I do look at every time ... D>> unfortunately it is alot of data that can't be easily "cut and paste") Yes happens to me virtually on a daily basis now using Kerio PFW 215. I'd put it down to a windows thing :( and was on my long list of things that always happen to me. When each account starts polling the POP3 they seem to arrive. Three of them each time requiring a click on yes. Then it just carries on as normal. Although when it's really bad I have to shut The BAt! and restart it. I'd thought it might be to do with the ports changing as each account checks it's email. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Creating templates with encryptcomplete macro
Hello, Saturday, February 14, 2004, 7:57:22 PM, you wrote: dh> Hello bats, dh> on Sat, 14. Feb 2004 at 17:49:45 + David Stone wrote: D>> I've tried this where the message is saved and then run through D>> command-line pgp to create an encrypted asc file. Then with another D>> filter this gets sent to the recipient. dh> Why not simply one filter? Isn't this possible with the current set of dh> possible filter actions? I did it with two to try and keep it straight in my mind. It appeared to me that with one filter I was putting the file into the 'create' template (a) before the incoming message was saved and processed to create the required file to go in template (a). Hmmm? -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Creating templates with encryptcomplete macro
Hello, Saturday, February 14, 2004, 9:14:29 PM, you wrote: C> David Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ 14-Feb-2004 12:49:45 PM C> "Creating templates with encryptcomplete macro" C> <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I suppose I need to hunt around for a dos del.exe utility!! C> Try 'command /c "del filename"' on windows 9x/Me or 'cmd /c "del filename"' C> on Windows 2000/XP. Thanks for that. I haven't used DOS for years! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Creating templates with encryptcomplete macro
Hello, Saturday, February 14, 2004, 4:37:07 PM, you wrote: dh> Hello bats, dh> on Sat, 14. Feb 2004 at 14:39:27 + David Stone wrote: D>> But in this case I cannot get the template to encrypt the message. dh> This is probably related to the bug, that encryption macros do not dh> work in mass mailing templates or get lost for drafts. I thought that was going to be the case :( dh> A workaround I can think of would be to export the original message's dh> text, start an external program (which encrypts the exported file) and dh> include this file into the new mail. dh> This isn't very elegant, but probably the only solution before the dh> (supposed) bug gets fixed. I've tried this where the message is saved and then run through command-line pgp to create an encrypted asc file. Then with another filter this gets sent to the recipient. It still requires some manual intervention though and although I can overwrite the original saved file okay I cannot delete the pgp created asc file (automatically). I suppose I need to hunt around for a dos del.exe utility!! Just a pity that that macro doesn't work . That would be ideal. :) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Creating templates with encryptcomplete macro
Hello, I don't know if this can be done but I've been trying so hard with emails to myself I'm on the verge of putting myself on my own spamlist :( An email arrives at an account example.com addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a sorting filter places it in the correct folder. However in the filter I've ticked the box to create a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and included in the template, hash encryptcomplete. As you know normally this auto encrypts to the key of the TO user without intervention, and I have many templates using this macro so I know it works normally. But in this case I cannot get the template to encrypt the message. I've even added exactly the same 'username' from the pgp keyring. The filter is rewriting the incoming message and placing it in the outbox as I want, but 'in clear'. The plan is to be able to email from a client where I have no PGP facilities into TheBat (on a machine with PGP) which would encrypt the message and send it onwards to a particular addressee. This is the latest version of the template. (Hashes replaced with !) Version 24745.6 RC/689745683 :( !TO=""!TO="recipient"!REPLYTO=""!REPLYTO="sender"!FROM=""!FROM="sender"!- == !OFROMADDR == !TEXT !ENCRYPTCOMPLETE -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01.3. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! on a blacklist?
Hello, Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:28:15 PM, you wrote: MDP> Hi Thomas, MDP> @20-Oct-2003, 15:27 +0700 (09:27 UK time) Thomas Fernandez said to MDP> Marck: >>> Precisely!!! This practice should be campaigned against, not >>> encouraged by hiding from it and thus permitting it by default. >> For some reason I cannot find an X-Mailer header in your own >> message... MDP> Interesting... I do have a copy of X-Ray running but leave it on the MDP> Indeed it does not :-/. MDP> Well. That's novel! I've had problems using xray to change the x-mailer line with mailman (for TheBat! archives) bouncing my offerings to the 'hold for moderator' box (Marck has kindly poked them onwards!) and had to switch it off for this account. So sometimes using xray can add to the problems. For this email I've switched it back on to see what happens. :) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Base 64 decode in message text.
Hello Allie, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 11:32:03 PM, you wrote: AM> David Stone, [DS] wrote: DS>> I find it's all down to which option for PGP I've selected. I was DS>> using the PGP *plugin* option (I have 6.5.8 ckt) and if I AM> I'm using only TB!'s PGP/MIME options here. The PGP preferences option to Yes I only have TheBats! PGP/MIME option selected. The External PGP (Systray) is deselected. DS>> But...switching to the *builtin* option then the result is as you say DS>> it is for you, and as I would want it :)) AM> Is the plug-in option that you're referring to, the PGP preferences AM> option I mentioned above? No it's TheBats! plug-in option from Tools|OpenPGP|Choose OpenPGP Version. DS>> However, and this is probably the reason why I switched to using the DS>> plugin, the builtin option doesn't cache my passphrase. AM> For caching passphrases you have to use the PGP preferences. Yes I have the external PGP (Systray) preferences set for caching but I was just decrying that it's not carried over when using the built-in option as it is with the plug-in option. DS>> Technically I suppose that is the correct thing to do if using PGP AM> I'm not sure what you mean by plugin vs builtin options but since you AM> have things working, I guess it's not terribly important. :) As above it's the options selectable from Tools|OpenPGP|Choose OpenPGP Version I was referring to. Yes I have it worked out now but I've no doubt that my goldfish like memory will have forgotten it all in 6 months. ;) At least the sun's out! (Note to Marck ; Turned off xray and the email gets through now! Hm!!!) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Base 64 decode in message text.
Hello, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 1:00:16 AM, you wrote: AM> David Stone, [DS] wrote: DS>> If I use PGP/MIME and encrypt/sign a message* with an attachment, AM> Is this an internal delivery that you're doing, or are you going via AM> your ISP? Yes it was internal and external. I've tested via various ISP's and different servers and that route appears okay but I know what it was now...see later. DS>> then I can PGP decrypt the message but the JPEG is shown as base64 DS>> text within the message. To view the JPEG (or base64) I have to AM> I can't duplicate this problem when I try it. I did it in two ways. I DS>> If I do not use PGP/MIME (set to 'off') and repeat the above then the DS>> JPEG appears as a separate attachment and can be viewed within TheBAt! DS>> message. AM> Well, yes. Nothing should be wrong since inline signing will make your DS>> I know some other clients decode PGP/MIME base64 and present it DS>> within the message (TurnPike, Eudora), so, is there a plugin for DS>> TheBat! that could decode base64 on the fly? AM> TB! does decode base64 encoded text on the fly. It certainly does that AM> here. The messages I sent to myself that were signed and encrypted were I find it's all down to which option for PGP I've selected. I was using the PGP *plugin* option (I have 6.5.8 ckt) and if I encrypted,signed and have pgp/mime at auto then when I decrypt the message shows in base64 in the message viewer (depending on the state of the 8bit option under properties|mail management) But...switching to the *builtin* option then the result is as you say it is for you, and as I would want it :)) However, and this is probably the reason why I switched to using the plugin, the builtin option doesn't cache my passphrase. Technically I suppose that is the correct thing to do if using PGP properly, but it is a pain :)) Plus the plugin provided more PGP detail on decrypting. Thanks for your time in replying. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Angle brackets in TO header
Hello, If I use a TO header in a NEW email with no angle brackets such as:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] then write the message and post it to the outbox I notice that the Subject line follows on from the TO address like this:- TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:Angle brackets in TO header This has already caused the TBUDL mailman to baulk on a previous message from me. If I add angle brackets in the TO address like:- tbudl<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The the headers are not concatenated and the 'Subject:' line is on it's own line. Likewise if I don't have angle brackets in the FROM header then the next line in the headers, X-mailer is attached to the end of the FROM line, like this:- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Bat! (v2.01) Personal Is this something new in 2.01 or has it always been this way? It'll mean I'll have to put angle brackets into every header :( -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Base 64 decode in message text.
Hello, If I use PGP/MIME and encrypt/sign a message* with an attachment, say a JPEG file, and send it to myself at another TheBat! account then I can PGP decrypt the message but the JPEG is shown as base64 text within the message. To view the JPEG (or base64) I have to cut/paste and save to another file where I can use a 'shell' utility to right click the file and decode the base64 material. If I do not use PGP/MIME (set to 'off') and repeat the above then the JPEG appears as a separate attachment and can be viewed within TheBAt! message. I know some other clients decode PGP/MIME base64 and present it within the message (TurnPike, Eudora), so, is there a plugin for TheBat! that could decode base64 on the fly? I suppose there are virus implications which is why TheBat! does not decode base64 inline! Although I would imagine the AV software that most people run would cope with it. * I have to ensure that under properties|mailmanagement 8bit characters have to be set as 'quoted-printable' otherwise even my message text appears as base64. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.01. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A Size 10 shoes. Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Make a reply use a specific account.
Hello, Suppose I have accounts called A,B,C for example, and I use account C to send/receive email. When I send *new* email from C I use an Address Book template (new message) which uses %ACCOUNT="A" so that email is sent as expected from C but using account A domain/server/details. Now when I *reply* to email in C again with the reply template set up in the AB with %ACCOUNT="A" it sends it using the current account C. I've tried using %ACCOUNT=""%ACCOUNT="A" even. Can I force a reply to use a specific account via templates. Other than taking the Options|Active Account manual approach from the editor. (Everything is picked up as it should from the templates except that the account isn't changed with a 'reply') -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.62q. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Approved biscuit crumbs in keyboard. Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New TB! Release Notification.
Hello, Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 6:12:56 AM, you wrote: CW> I don't know how many others of you added your e-mail address to the CW> 'new release notification' on the support page on the TB! website, but CW> I've still not heard anything about the Crimbo Edition. Reading the beta list my understanding is that version 1.62 CE is still a beta version circa beta 18 which those kind people on the beta list are picking the nits out of. (For non uk readers 'nits' are small pets mostly owned by us British and are like small bugs! :) ) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.61. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2Inside leg 30" Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 'dink' wav sound on some actions
Hello, Thursday, May 2, 2002, 12:54:31 PM, you wrote: TM> Hey David, DS>> Whenever I get a failed connection in the CC for whatever there's DS>> that 'dink' wav sound played (as it does when you want to mark all DS>> mail read!). TM> Account | Properties | Sound TM> Does that do it? I looked at that one but I believe that's just for 'Yo! you have new mail' type sounds during a set time period. But if that feature could be extended to other functions within TheBat!.>> wishlist. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60h. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
'dink' wav sound on some actions
Hello, Whenever I get a failed connection in the CC for whatever there's that 'dink' wav sound played (as it does when you want to mark all mail read!). With about 30 accounts 'dinking' every few minutes this morning due to a failed network somewhere in Europe I'm going 'dink' crazy. Is there a way to turn it off as it tends to intrude on any music I'm playing as I work! I was going to delete the wav file like I did with that annoying IE 'refresh a page' sound but I may need a 'dink' one day!!! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60h. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Currently listening to 'dink' Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
Hello, Sunday, April 28, 2002, 11:13:48 PM, you wrote: R> Hi David DS>> Is it me should I have done something ;) R> a work-around: R> go to options, smime & choose microsoft CryptoAPI R> then the messages will show just fine (after a slight delay) Thank you very much Roel, that has worked and they open up just like the other emails. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60h. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current Ver: 1.60h FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cannot open email with yellow icon in 1.60h
Hello, Thought I'd try version 1.60h :) However I find that email which have the small round yellow icon with a tick over the envelope cannot be opened with 1.60h. I thought it might be an old 'cannot view HTML email' problem I've had in the past. When I reverted to 1.60c I found the email could be opened but was just plain text email but with an invalid signature marker. Is it me should I have done something ;) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60c. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Currently watching BBC1 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using the cookie macro in an address book template.
Hello, Thursday, April 11, 2002, 1:19:20 PM, you wrote: DS>> Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks DS>> as if only one cookie file can be opened per message? L> I'm out on limb here but have you tried to create another coockie L> file e.g. "cookies" and place in in the \The Bat!\folder and point to L> that path? L> That way you have two cookie files, one "subject", one "cookies" to L> point to. Maybe that works? Thanks Luc, I tried that but it still used the first 'cookie' file opened for the subject after switching focus to the message pane. I even tried placing the various cookie files elsewhere. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60c. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using the cookie macro in an address book template.
Hello, In a 'new message' template in the AB I have included the following macros... %SUBJECT="%COOKIE='C:\Program Files\The Bat!\subject.txt' Reference Number %TRACKINGNUMBER" [%SUBJ] ...%COOKIE Which correctly creates a new message with a subject header taken at random from the file subject.txt, creates the repeated subject in [] brackets in the message pane and then at the end adds a random cookie from the accounts' cookie file. However when I click in the message pane (change focus) to write the text the ...%COOKIE line changes and becomes the one selected from the file 'subject.txt' as shown in the subject header. I've even tried pointing the ...%COOKIE line to a different file and that works only until I change focus to the message pane. Am I asking too much from The Bat! or doing something wrong? It looks as if only one cookie file can be opened per message? -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60c. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current Ver: 1.60c FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Creating an Inbox-Known folder
Hello, I'd searched the list subjects but couldn't see any subject that referred to my subject. So apologies if it's been covered and everyone except me and my dogs knows this... When I upgraded to 1.60 only the accounts that were currently expanded had the new folder Inbox-Known added to them. The contracted (collapsed) accounts did not, so I was looking at how to add the new folder. Adding an ordinary new folder just created a new folder without the arrow icon. So I created a new folder with the name $Known$. They looked like ordinary folders at the end of the account-folders list until I used the move-up option. Once moved above the Trash icon it developed the arrow-icon and looked like the other 'Inbox-Known' folders. Is this the correct way to create these new 'Inbox-Known' folders? Someone said here a few days ago, that even after using The Bat! for several years there was always something new to learn. That's very true! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.60. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. version 5.50.4807.2300IC SP2 Current Ver: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot read some messages in a folder
Hello, Friday, January 18, 2002, 10:50:19 AM, you wrote: IG> David IG> I've just seen your mails in the discussion list archive. I've recently seen this problem. What's unusual is that I'm running a dual boot system (98SE and Win2000) and the problem only occurs IG> under 98. I'll reinstall IE under 98, but do you have any idea which dll might be responsible? IG> Cheers IG> Ian G. Unfortunately no. It was only when I noticed .png files not being shown on an HTML page in IE that it brought back to mind I had had the same problem many months ago. On that occasion I searched the usual databases to find any references to the problem but without success. So I just re-installed IE then and it solved both the IE and THEBAT problems. Since Karin mentioned HTML pages in THEBAT I realised that yesterday it *was* HTML I was trying to view. So it must be a shared DLL, which somehow becomes corrupt, but as I say I don't know which one. It would be nice to know which one(s) so it could just be replaced should it happen again. I don't think it's THEBAT which causes the corruption it's just that the symptom shows in THEBAT as I run it more or less continuously. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53t. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Cannot read some messages in a folder.
Hello, Thursday, January 17, 2002, 12:51:31 PM, you wrote: DH> Hello David! DH> On Thursday, January 17, 2002 at 1:28:15 PM you wrote: >> I'm assuming it's the indexing file. Is there a way to fix this? DH> Can't tell you anything for this, only that I faintly remember that DH> there is. Wasn't it just deleting the index file and let TB! create a DH> new one? I may have found the solution after reinstalling IE 5.5 :) >> I've also had a couple of error messages popup saying access pointer >> violations (or words to that effect!). DH> Another one I am not quite sure of: There were some problems with DH> 1.53bis that have been fixed with 1.53d and 1.53t - they are the last DH> official versions published. "D" you will find on RITLabs homepage, DH> "T" through the beta page (or on FTP); it is nevertheless *not* a DH> beta! DH> Regardless of what the actual fixes were, you should update your DH> installation with 1.53d or t. I was running 1.53bis (ver2) and updated to 1.53d a couple of days ago (I wonder if that caused the problem or perhaps it's just conincidental). So having todays problems with THEBAT I went back to 1.53bis(ver2). I may venture back to 1.53.d! I didn't know about 1.53t so thank-you for that bit of information :) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Cannot read some messages in a folder.
Hello, Thursday, January 17, 2002, 1:10:43 PM, you wrote: KS> On 17-01-2002 at 13:28, David Stone kindly wrote: >> For example if there are 10 messages listed then clicking the first in >> the list will display the message but clicking on message 2 or 3 only >> displays the text of message one. Going further down the list displays >> some messages correctly. [..] >> If after a restart I go to the folder and select messages which >> previously would not display then they do display. But after clicking >> on a few messages (which display okay) the fault suddently starts >> again. KS> Are the messages that TB gets sort of stuck on in html? I KS> have the same problem while running TB on my laptop. I need KS> to open and close TB for eacht html message :-( KS> - K - Thank you Karin and Dierk, I've just posted a reply here to Roelof where I mentioned finding a problem with IE5.5 not displaying correctly. So I've reinstalled IE 5.5 which has fixed my IE problem and also my THEBAT problem. I never thought to check Karin if the stuck messages were HTML. Looking at the backup msgs there were certainly some HTML messages in the folder so I'm hoping ,fingers crossed, that it is indeed just a corrupt shared DLL. Later:Quick check of the folder and the stuck/problem messages were HTML types. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Cannot read some messages in a folder.
Hello, Thursday, January 17, 2002, 12:51:20 PM, you wrote: RO> Hello David, DS>> I'm assuming it's the indexing file. Is there a way to fix this? RO> Since exporting works fine. Ever considered to export all messages. To RO> delete the messages.tbi and messsages.tbb and afterwards import all RO> messages again? RO> This way you should have new index files. RO> In case you doubt that every message gets exported, you could rename RO> the messages.tbb. Thank you Roelof I was just about to try your suggestion but decided to 'surf' the net first. I ran IE and noticed that my Intranet home page applet took ages to load. I also noticed that my .png graphics were not displaying. That rang a bell. I remembered about a year ago I had the same folder/message problem with THEBAT and *also* the problem with IE not displaying .png graphics. On that occasion I re-installed 5.5 and it cured the IE and THEBAT faults. (I'd assumed that THEBAT, being so good, had 'cured' itself). So I've just reinstalled IE 5.5 again and it's fixed the IE problems and...the problem in THEBAT has gone. So could it have been some corrupted shared DLL file? -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Cannot read some messages in a folder.
Hello, I've just noticed in the INBOX of one particular account that if I click in the message list window the individual messages are not displayed. For example if there are 10 messages listed then clicking the first in the list will display the message but clicking on message 2 or 3 only displays the text of message one. Going further down the list displays some messages correctly. I've compressed and purged and restarted TB a few times. If after a restart I go to the folder and select messages which previously would not display then they do display. But after clicking on a few messages (which display okay) the fault suddently starts again. I've exported all the messages as .msg files and they all appear complete. I've also noticed that any new messages in the folders list cannot be read and display no text. I'm assuming it's the indexing file. Is there a way to fix this? I've also had a couple of error messages popup saying access pointer violations (or words to that effect!). -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.
Hello, Friday, June 15, 2001, 10:29:22 PM, you wrote: MDP> Hi David, MDP> On 15 June 2001 at 22:09:17 +0100 (which was 22:09 where I live) MDP> David Stone wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: MDP> Although I have seen some "sticking" with the CC, I've found that MDP> forcing a secondary mail check "kicks" it. Then again, I run to a MDP> server on the LAN. I tried that but couldn't get the secondary check to run. But it probably explains what happens if I switch from using the LAN to a dial up mode which has the same effect. But when I tried that, although it worked I ended up with an application error which closed TheBat! DS>> I just wonder now that if the pop3 server fails in some way that DS>> the check is not timed out correctly. MDP> It does seem that way. In a way I hope that's so because I can then stop poking about here making an even bigger mess! MDP> MDP> Have to butt in here and wave a trout on grounds of over-quoting. MDP> Please try to trim original material to the relevant points. MDP> Thank you. MDP> Trout accepted. Apologies :) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.
Hello, Friday, June 15, 2001, 9:00:57 PM, you wrote: DS> Hello, DS> Friday, June 15, 2001, 10:27:45 AM, you wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thursday, June 14, 2001, 7:29:57 AM, you wrote: >>> >>> I'm still having some problems with the connection centre. >>> Neither do the end task or abort buttons work. >>> >>> But what I have found is >>> >>> Messages that are stuck when viewed show a blank page (HTML is set to >>> display but problem occurs if it's set to off!) but I can use the view >>> source option to see the content.. >>> >>> Normally I connect via cable modem but if I switch from LAN to dial up >>> in Network Administration then the next time some accounts are due for >>> checking the one's that are 'stuck' in the cc are re accessed and are >>> downloaded okay. However I then get an application error:- >>> >>> Exception EAccessViolation 36F426F0 in module THEBAT.EXE >>> Read of Address 37343934 >>> >>> Does anyone know if any IE files/modules are accessed by TheBat! as >>> I'm wondering if this problem is being caused by a damaged IE file. fvnc>> I have almost the same problems as you descrive and things started to go wrong since the connection centre was introduced in the Bat. fvnc>> The problems still exist in the latest beta versions and also in the official relase 1.53BIS. For this reason I decided to go back to version 1.51. fvnc>> My operating system is Windows ME! fvnc>> Regards, fvnc>> Fred van Veen fvnc>> The Netherlands DS> Having a couple of problems with IE5.5 involving the favorites links DS> and the non display of .png graphics I decided to revert back to IE DS> ver 5. I noticed that this solved the favorites problem and I was also DS> able to view the wayward HTML messages that were earlier showing as a DS> blank page. DS> I then went and reloaded the Java VM and also re-installed IE 5.5 and DS> ran the Internet Repair option. This has fixed my IE problem and DS> without wanting to celebrate too soon TheBat! connection centre also DS> appears to be functioning properly. At least it's been running for 12 DS> hours now and has downloaded various HTML content messages from the DS> previous 'problem accounts' (the accounts from problem accounts and DS> functioning accounts were all on the same server so I guessed it was DS> not a server thing). I'm hoping that there is a component/module of DS> IE that is used by TheBat! So perhaps it will be okay now. DS> The other alternative I'd considered was that it was a particular HTML DS> tag in a message that was causing a problem and that perhaps so far I DS> haven't received an HTML with that tag in it!!! I hope I'm wrong DS> though. Oh well spoke too soon. :( The connection centre connected to a totally different account to any of the one's I've had recent problems with. The log window shows:- receiving mail messages connected to POP3 server and was just sitting there. The account wasn't being checked at later times although other accounts were checked okay.I left it for a considerable time The good news is that when I clicked on cancel task it did just that and a manual 'get new mail' ran okay,and there was not in fact any mail on the account waiting for collection. I hope nobody misunderstands me. I'm not complaining about the cc just reporting what I'm seeing. I like this new version but the cc is causing me some problems. I just wonder now that if the pop3 server fails in some way that the check is not timed out correctly. With versions prior to 1.52 TheBat would do just that with a 'Ping' :) -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.
Hello, Friday, June 15, 2001, 10:27:45 AM, you wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Thursday, June 14, 2001, 7:29:57 AM, you wrote: >> >> I'm still having some problems with the connection centre. >> Neither do the end task or abort buttons work. >> >> But what I have found is >> >> Messages that are stuck when viewed show a blank page (HTML is set to >> display but problem occurs if it's set to off!) but I can use the view >> source option to see the content.. >> >> Normally I connect via cable modem but if I switch from LAN to dial up >> in Network Administration then the next time some accounts are due for >> checking the one's that are 'stuck' in the cc are re accessed and are >> downloaded okay. However I then get an application error:- >> >> Exception EAccessViolation 36F426F0 in module THEBAT.EXE >> Read of Address 37343934 >> >> Does anyone know if any IE files/modules are accessed by TheBat! as >> I'm wondering if this problem is being caused by a damaged IE file. fvnc> I have almost the same problems as you descrive and things started to go wrong since the connection centre was introduced in the Bat. fvnc> The problems still exist in the latest beta versions and also in the official relase 1.53BIS. For this reason I decided to go back to version 1.51. fvnc> My operating system is Windows ME! fvnc> Regards, fvnc> Fred van Veen fvnc> The Netherlands Having a couple of problems with IE5.5 involving the favorites links and the non display of .png graphics I decided to revert back to IE ver 5. I noticed that this solved the favorites problem and I was also able to view the wayward HTML messages that were earlier showing as a blank page. I then went and reloaded the Java VM and also re-installed IE 5.5 and ran the Internet Repair option. This has fixed my IE problem and without wanting to celebrate too soon TheBat! connection centre also appears to be functioning properly. At least it's been running for 12 hours now and has downloaded various HTML content messages from the previous 'problem accounts' (the accounts from problem accounts and functioning accounts were all on the same server so I guessed it was not a server thing). I'm hoping that there is a component/module of IE that is used by TheBat! So perhaps it will be okay now. The other alternative I'd considered was that it was a particular HTML tag in a message that was causing a problem and that perhaps so far I haven't received an HTML with that tag in it!!! I hope I'm wrong though. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Connection Center problem with HTML messages.
Hello, Thursday, June 14, 2001, 7:29:57 AM, you wrote: DS> Hello, DS> I had a problem when I installed 1.52x with the connection center. I DS> noticed that with some accounts the cc would come up,download the DS> message and the cc would stay connected with the status bar fully DS> 'lit'. DS> I could not close the cc or hence TheBat! other than by using DS> ctl-alt-del and ending the task. I noticed that any message that had DS> downloaded this way would not show as read (after 1 sec with my option DS> set) and double clicking would open an empty window even though the DS> size of the message indicated some text in it. They were only a small DS> size and the download size had not been reached. I'm still having some problems with the connection centre. The problem occurs when I try to download a message with an HTML content. The particular account shows in the cc as 100% progress but there is no disconnection from the POP3 account (in TheBat!). The connection centre shows connect times in the hours. Neither do the end task or abort buttons work. But what I have found is Messages that are stuck when viewed show a blank page (HTML is set to display but problem occurs if it's set to off!) but I can use the view source option to see the content,which is how I know they are HTML content messages. And of course whilst the cc shows as connected TheBat! cannot be closed. Normally I connect via cable modem but if I switch from LAN to dial up in Network Administration then the next time some accounts are due for checking the one's that are 'stuck' in the cc are re accessed and are downloaded okay. However I then get an application error:- Exception EAccessViolation 36F426F0 in module THEBAT.EXE Read of Address 37343934 Does anyone know if any IE files/modules are accessed by TheBat! as I'm wondering if this problem is being caused by a damaged IE file. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.53bis. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Connection Center problem with HTML messages.
Hello, I had a problem when I installed 1.52x with the connection center. I noticed that with some accounts the cc would come up,download the message and the cc would stay connected with the status bar fully 'lit'. I could not close the cc or hence TheBat! other than by using ctl-alt-del and ending the task. I noticed that any message that had downloaded this way would not show as read (after 1 sec with my option set) and double clicking would open an empty window even though the size of the message indicated some text in it. They were only a small size and the download size had not been reached. So I returned to ver 1.51 whereupon the messages would download fully. When ver 1.53 was installed it ran for 5 or 10 minutes and but then exhibited the same problems together with a couple of 'access violation 00690650 Read of address 212635E' messages. I even recreated a new account with a new name but the same problem occurred. So I returned to ver 1.51 and downloaded those errant messages. This time I looked at the messages and noticed they were HTML messages. Under ver 1.51 I have display HTML turned off but can obviously view an HTML message by clicking on the tab in the message pane. I think something changed with HTML messages from ver 1.51 and I need to do something different. (It *has* to be me!!! :) ) Any suggestions anyone please. -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 1.51. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A -- __ Archives : <http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TBTech List: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
