Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hello Jack, On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:37:00 -0500 GMT (20-Jun-13, 05:37 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Hello Thomas, JSL On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:00:01 -0500 GMT (19-Jun-13, 20:00 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really JSL don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an JSL idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to JSL remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer JSL otherwise the computer can't get through. JSL Just a really out there thought. TF That's funny, because these iDevices use IMAP, very much like my TF Android phone. There should actually be no interference. I had no TF problem when using my iPhone, which I still sometimes do. JSL Well, here's what happens if I try to fetch with TB! *after* I fetch using my iPhone: JSL 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - receiving mail messages JSL 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server 127.0.0.1 on port JSL 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - connected to POP3 server JSL !6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR JSL [IN-USE] account is locked by another session or for maintenance, try again. JSL Eventually something times out and I can then use my computer (TB!) to fetch mail. If JSL I don't want to wait for that something to time out I can completely shut down JSL the iPhone app and immediately fetch using TB! from the computer. JSL This drove me crazy when I first got my iPhone. It took me a while to figure JSL out that the phone was keeping the connection open preventing me from fetching JSL using TB!. I see. Yes, I used to have a email account that could be accessed by only one device at a time. I think it is a server setting. On my company account, I can definitely check new emails with two or three devices at the time. When I come back from a trip, I let my office computer download mails (can take half an hour, depending on how long the trip was) while checking new emails on the laptop or the phone, or both. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hello Gene, On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 you wrote: GB On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 11:56:08 AM, you wrote: Good idea, but it didn't change anything. (Except that Windows complains about having it turned off.) GB Well! The problem has mysteriously corrected itself once again. GB We'll see if it holds. Otherwise you may be hearing from me again. GB -- GB Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 GB GB Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: GB http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html GB - GB No virus found in this message. GB Checked by AVG - www.avg.com GB Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6421 - Release Date: 06/18/13 I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer otherwise the computer can't get through. Just a really out there thought. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
On Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 9:00:01 AM, you wrote: I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer otherwise the computer can't get through. Nope. I'm not a big Apple fan. I do have an android phone, but never use it for email (too small and awkward). Can you actually use TB on an iPhone? -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
GB On Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 9:00:01 AM, you wrote: I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer otherwise the computer can't get through. GB Nope. I'm not a big Apple fan. I do have an android phone, but GB never use it for email (too small and awkward). Can you actually GB use TB on an iPhone? I have a prog called Pocket cloud that lets you run all your connected devices from an IPAD. I can run the bat, but it is a bear to use for that -- Rick World events do not occur by accident. They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings. Denis Winston Healey, Baron Healey CH, MBE, PC, British Labour politician v5.4 on Windows 6.2 Build 9200 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hello Gene, On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 you wrote: GB On Wednesday, June 19, 2013, 9:00:01 AM, you wrote: I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer otherwise the computer can't get through. GB Nope. I'm not a big Apple fan. I do have an android phone, but GB never use it for email (too small and awkward). Can you actually Rick mentions a prog called Pocket Cloud with which I am not familiar. I was referring to the built-in iDevice app which allows me to send/receive email directly from my ISP (my primary email address) or Gmail or Yahoo mail or probably any other email provider. Without benefit of Rick's program I don't know how to run TB! from my iPhone but then, why would I need to? -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hello Jack, On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:00:01 -0500 GMT (19-Jun-13, 20:00 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really JSL don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an JSL idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to JSL remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer JSL otherwise the computer can't get through. JSL Just a really out there thought. That's funny, because these iDevices use IMAP, very much like my Android phone. There should actually be no interference. I had no problem when using my iPhone, which I still sometimes do. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 5.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:00:01 -0500 GMT (19-Jun-13, 20:00 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I've held off on replying to this thread because in my heart of hearts I really JSL don't think this is the problem, but I just have to ask: Are you using an JSL idevice (iPhone, Ipod, Ipad) to access your mail? Whenever I do that I have to JSL remember to shut down the app before I can access my mail from my computer JSL otherwise the computer can't get through. JSL Just a really out there thought. TF That's funny, because these iDevices use IMAP, very much like my TF Android phone. There should actually be no interference. I had no TF problem when using my iPhone, which I still sometimes do. Well, here's what happens if I try to fetch with TB! *after* I fetch using my iPhone: 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - receiving mail messages 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - Connecting to POP3 server 127.0.0.1 on port 6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - connected to POP3 server !6/19/2013, 17:26:36: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR [IN-USE] account is locked by another session or for maintenance, try again. Eventually something times out and I can then use my computer (TB!) to fetch mail. If I don't want to wait for that something to time out I can completely shut down the iPhone app and immediately fetch using TB! from the computer. This drove me crazy when I first got my iPhone. It took me a while to figure out that the phone was keeping the connection open preventing me from fetching using TB!. -- Best Regards, Jack LaRosa :usflag: Central Alabama Using The Bat! ver: 5.2. Running Windows 7 Pro ver 6 build 7601 Service Pack 1 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
On Saturday, June 15, 2013, 8:28:46 PM, you wrote: Never mind! After reinstalling it one more time, things seem to be working OK. I must have had a typo somewhere that followed me. -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 The problem has re-appeared. After initially working after the last reinstall, I now have the same problem. As far as I know, nothing else has changed--no new programs added or configuration changes. No viruses detected using several anti-malware programs. Any suggestions are appreciated. -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Hallo Gene, On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:39:00 -0400GMT (18-6-2013, 15:39 , where I live), you wrote: GB The problem has re-appeared. After initially working after the last GB reinstall, I now have the same problem. As far as I know, nothing Sounds like a firewall problem. Disable the the firewall and see whether that fixes the problem. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found, entering forbidden topi@$#% NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.4 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 5 pop3 accounts, 2 imap accounts OTFE disabled i7-2600 3.4GHz 4 GB RAM Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 10:33:45 AM, you wrote: Sounds like a firewall problem. Disable the the firewall and see whether that fixes the problem. Good idea, but it didn't change anything. (Except that Windows complains about having it turned off.) -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, 11:56:08 AM, you wrote: Good idea, but it didn't change anything. (Except that Windows complains about having it turned off.) Well! The problem has mysteriously corrected itself once again. We'll see if it holds. Otherwise you may be hearing from me again. -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre Problem
After installing TB on a new PC, I've having problems sending and receiving mail. I did a backup and restore from my old PC so all the accounts and settings were transferred over, but I get the following error message when I click F2 for a combined delivery: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: PASS, STAT) If I simply click on the tool bar to receive mail, the Connection Centre says status is connecting to host, but then times out with a FETCH - Connect failed message. As far as I can tell, everything is set up properly with an identical setup on both machines. Both PCs are running Win 7, are connected through the same router, and have no problem accessing the internet. TB still runs just fine on the old machine. Besides doing the complete backup and restore, I've also tried doing a fresh installation of TB and then restoring everything except the old Account Properties, but still get the same results. I'm probably missing something obvious, but I sure can't see it. Any ideas? Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Problem
Never mind! After reinstalling it one more time, things seem to be working OK. I must have had a typo somewhere that followed me. -- Running The Bat! version 4.2.44.2 under Windows 7 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hello, Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 3:38:04 AM, you wrote (possibly edited): I don't know if there is a way within The Bat! but when I had a similar problem some time ago, my solution was to edit the registry. Thank you for the reply. I'll have a look in the registry. I'm using Windows 7, but I hope that I'll find the relevant entry. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hallo Costas, On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:19:21 +0200GMT (1-3-2011, 15:19 , where I live), you wrote: CP Since three days ago the Connection Centre when I start The Bat! is CP off to one side of the monitor screen. After I move it with the mouse CP to the centre of the screen it stays there until I restart the CP program. Closing TB after moving the CC should store its location. If that doesn't help, you should try to check with the taskmanager whether TB vanishes from the active processes. -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderators ave more fun than ##%@ NO CARRIER http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 5.0.0.145 BETA Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 5 pop3 accounts, 3 imap account OTFE disabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpQmVokZgWbX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, March 2, 2011, 4:36:54 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): Closing TB after moving the CC should store its location. If that doesn't help, you should try to check with the taskmanager whether TB vanishes from the active processes. Thanks for the information. I have already edited the registry and the Connection Centre has moved to a better position. However, I'll fine tune the position by following your advice. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hi On Wednesday 2 March 2011 at 5:56:31 PM, in mid:1233388755.20110302195...@cytanet.com.cy, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: I have already edited the registry and the Connection Centre has moved to a better position. However, I'll fine tune the position by following your advice. When I had a similar problem, once I had edited the registry it went back to working in the way Roelof describes. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The One with The Answer is seldom asked The Question Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hi, Since three days ago the Connection Centre when I start The Bat! is off to one side of the monitor screen. After I move it with the mouse to the centre of the screen it stays there until I restart the program. How can I fix this problem? -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre has moved from the centre of the screen
Hi On Tuesday 1 March 2011 at 2:19:21 PM, in mid:1278953096.20110301161...@cytanet.com.cy, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: Since three days ago the Connection Centre when I start The Bat! is off to one side of the monitor screen. After I move it with the mouse to the centre of the screen it stays there until I restart the program. How can I fix this problem? I don't know if there is a way within The Bat! but when I had a similar problem some time ago, my solution was to edit the registry. (Usual warnings and caveats about registry editing apply - don't blame me if you accidentally hose your system.) You do this with TB! closed. You don't say what Windows version you use, for me in Windows XP the keys to edit were at HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Connection Centre and my current decimal values are:- height 463 left 226 state 0 top 26 width 549 -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Vegetarian: Indian word for lousy hunter!!! Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre strangeness
Hello Bats!, I've just switched my web presence provider/mail server from CorpSite to GoDaddy, and during the changeover period have both servers set up as separate accounts. I copied all settings from the old account (except, of course, for the server addresses, user id, and passwords) to the new and now that the name server changes have propagated somewhat, am receiving mail through the new server. However, each time TB! checks the new server, the Connection Centre dialog pops up and waits for me to dispatch it, rather than completing the action automagically as it did before. This, of course, plays havoc with unattended operation overnight. What configuration setting should I use to make it work as it did before? -- Best regards, Jim mailto:j...@jimkyle.com Using The Bat! v%THEBATVERSION on %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %- %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION on VirtualBox 3.2.12 under Xubuntu 10.04.1 with AntiSpamSniper Version %ANTISPAMSNIPER_VERSION Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre strangeness SOLVED
On Saturday, February 26, 2011, at 8:23:44 AM, Jim Kyle wrote: However, each time TB! checks the new server, the Connection Centre dialog pops up and waits for me to dispatch it, rather than completing the action automagically as it did before. This, of course, plays havoc with unattended operation overnight. What configuration setting should I use to make it work as it did before? Solved -- I had checked off a box in the new account preferences to invoke the dispatcher on each check! Clearing that checkmark made things work as expected... -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 on VirtualBox under Xubuntu 10.04.1 with AntiSpamSniper Version 3.2.4.5 (Folder template, no ACCOUNT macro in it) Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net
Hello MFPA, On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:10:16 + GMT (15/Feb/10, 11:10 AM +0700 GMT), MFPA wrote: IAW For the past couple of days I have had the IAW Connection Centre stay open with it trying to IAW contact sns3.rsys3.net. IAW [...] IAW AnY ideas as to what this is and what could be IAW causing it? Yes, I do: It's an image it tries to download in an HTML message. M More specifically with that server address, it is trying to embed M personalised advertising into an HTML email. In my case, the server is adimg.uimserv.net. It's an ad server, and that's why I have blocked it in the URL Manager. And this seems to be the problem: The connection center keeps trying to download the image, the URL manager doesn't allow it to, and the connection center does not abort but keeps trying. Seems to be a beta bug, though. I didn't have the problem with the release version. XPost + F'Up2 TBBETA. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net
Hello Ian, On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:08:24 +1100 GMT (14/Feb/10, 18:08 PM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW For the past couple of days I have had the Connection Centre stay open IAW with it trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net. IAW I have force shut down The Bat!, but when restarted, the first thing IAW that The Bat! does is try and connect there again. IAW AnY ideas as to what this is and what could be causing it? Yes, I do: It's an image it tries to download in an HTML message. This has been reported on the Beta list but not been acknowledged by Ritlabs yet. I am trying to figure out why it happens with some messages and not with others, and I think it has to do with the setting of the particular server in the URL manager. Allow/Block/not_dealt_with_yet. IAW Using The Bat! 4.2.35 Professional Why is your version more advanced than mine and I think I am using the latest beta? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net
Hello Ian, On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:56:27 +1100 GMT (15/Feb/10, 3:56 AM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW Using The Bat! 4.2.35 Professional TF Why is your version more advanced than mine and I think I am using the TF latest beta? ;-) IAW This is how I ended up with the latest beta. IAW *** IAW The Bat! 4.2.35.0 is available at IAW http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42350.rar IAW What's new in 4.2.35.0 since 4.2.33.7: IAW [*] Added a workaround for a potential erroneous birthday entry in the address book. IAW Current beta is 4.2.35.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: IAW http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IAW *** IAW This said, you will also see that the signature in the announcement IAW shows the current beta is 4.2.35.1 OK, I missed that. In any case, I think the connection center problem is a beta issue and should be discussed on TBBETA, not here on TBUDL. -- Cheers, Thomas. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre stays open trying to contact sns3.rsys3.net
Hi On Sunday 14 February 2010 at 3:45:35 PM, in mid:1569410915.20100214224...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Ian, On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 22:08:24 +1100 GMT (14/Feb/10, 18:08 PM +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW For the past couple of days I have had the IAW Connection Centre stay open with it trying to IAW contact sns3.rsys3.net. IAW [...] IAW AnY ideas as to what this is and what could be IAW causing it? Yes, I do: It's an image it tries to download in an HTML message. More specifically with that server address, it is trying to embed personalised advertising into an HTML email. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre disappeared
Hi, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:53:13 PM,henkdebru...@gswot.org wrote: My messages do arrive though but I like to see the connection centre. Could you have accidently set it to be hidden? If you go to Options, then Preferences, and check what the Display connection centre is set for. It's at the bottom right of the General Tab. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:sisk...@gmail.com Using The Bat! 4.2.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection centre disappeared
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, at 23:05:44 [GMT -0700] (which was 8:05 where I live) Susanne wrote: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 10:53:13 PM,henkdebru...@gswot.org wrote: My messages do arrive though but I like to see the connection centre. Could you have accidently set it to be hidden? If you go to Options, then Preferences, and check what the Display connection centre is set for. It's at the bottom right of the General Tab. Hi, blush Thanks, completely missed that. /blush -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk _ The Bat! Natural Email System 4.2.10.1 on Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium Versie 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2333 MHz AntispamSniper for The Bat! Pro 3.2.1.1 pgpkCO6VElJj2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection centre disappeared
Hallo TBLUDL, Forgive my ignorance but I used to see the connection centre (for all my accounts) every time I started the Bat! But for some reason this disappeared. My messages do arrive though but I like to see the connection centre. Who can help me out? TIA -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn _ The Bat! Natural Email System 4.2.10.1 on Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium Versie 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz, 2333 MHz AntispamSniper for The Bat! Pro 3.2.1.1 pgp4rhRPG9yoG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre randomly hanging
Hi Nice to be back :-) I have just recently installed the Home Edition v.4.2.6. Every so often when checking for new mail the connection centre hangs - with no information showing - and will not close unless I close TB! itself. My mail checks in the background so I am not always watching what it is doing but I will often close a window and find the hung connection centre hiding behind it. I am on dial up but I don't think this is related to connection speed/time-outs. I haven't been using TB! for some years but I seem to recall a previous version that had this problem. Is anyone else experiencing it with this latest version? Anyone any suggestions for how to fix it? -- Carren Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre randomly hanging
Hallo Carren, On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:48:44 +1200GMT (29-6-2009, 9:48 +0200, where I live), you wrote: CS I have just recently installed the Home Edition v.4.2.6. CS Every so often when checking for new mail the connection centre CS hangs - with no information showing - and will not close unless I CS close TB! itself. My mail checks in the background so I am not CS always watching what it is doing but I will often close a window CS and find the hung connection centre hiding behind it. What does your log say? (Account - View log) Your log is account based, so you should check all accounts. Enable protocol logging to see whether something appears faulty. Account - Properties - Transport -Protocol logging -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.2.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 6 pop3 accounts, 1 imap account OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgp9wLCk894qq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre - missing detail window
Hello, Clicking the detail window in the Connection Centre just brings up an empty box below the otherwise functioning status section. Interestingly (to me) this has persisted across at least two PC re-builds, so there must be something corrupt or broken in my data or registry. Can anyone suggest where I might look to fix this niggle? TIA, -- Nick TheBat!: v4.1.11 on Windows Vista Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:51:13 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the feeling the numbers are indeed in the order the server actually received them! I have a test account at myrealbox.com, where it sometimes takes days to receive a message. This messes up the creation date order of the messages. Can this be the same in your case? Hello Thomas, Yes, it is possible I suppose. I'll clean out all the messages in my account on the mail server (download them all to my PC and delete them from the server), and then I'll start fresh - I'll keep an eye on the emails as they arrive on the mail server and see if it starts to put the messages out of order again. -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:19:43 +0700, Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I confirm this is the case over here, in the Despatcher. But this is exactly what Grumpy wants, so I am confused why they are sorted at random in his case. Hi, So am I - if the messages are meant to be assigned a number based on the time they were received, I can't work out why message #1 is from 17 December, message #2 is from 13 December, MEssage #3 is from 20 December etc. Ok, I can see there is an order to the message number in that it goes from 1 to 100 or whatever, but I can't see any relationship between the message date and the number it gets assigned! -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
Hello Grumpy, On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:30:51 +1100 GMT (15/01/2008, 17:30 +0700 GMT), Grumpy Gamer wrote: GG So am I - if the messages are meant to be assigned a number based on GG the time they were received, I can't work out why message #1 is from GG 17 December, message #2 is from 13 December, MEssage #3 is from 20 GG December etc. Ok, I can see there is an order to the message number in GG that it goes from 1 to 100 or whatever, but I can't see any GG relationship between the message date and the number it gets assigned! I'm getting the feeling the numbers are indeed in the order the server actually received them! I have a test account at myrealbox.com, where it sometimes takes days to receive a message. This messes up the creation date order of the messages. Can this be the same in your case? -- Cheers, Thomas. Der Tabellenerste kann jederzeit den Spitzenreiter schlagen. (Berti Vogts) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
Hi Grumpy, on Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:10 +1100GMT (12.01.2008, 07:57 +0100GMT here), you wrote: GG When I open Connection Centre (Despatch all messages on the server), GG the messages are sorted in a seemingly random fashion. ... GG So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection GG Centre by Time, permanently? I don't think so. As far as I understand the message dispatcher lists the messages in the order it receives them, i.e., the order they are listed on the server. -- Cheers Peter I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
Hello Peter, On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:30:11 +0100 GMT (12/01/2008, 16:30 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: GG So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection GG Centre by Time, permanently? PM I don't think so. As far as I understand the message dispatcher lists PM the messages in the order it receives them, i.e., the order they are PM listed on the server. I confirm this is the case over here, in the Despatcher. But this is exactly what Grumpy wants, so I am confused why they are sorted at random in his case. -- Cheers, Thomas. It takes money to make money because you have to copy the design exactly. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
Hi On Saturday 12 January 2008 at 12:19:43 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote: I confirm this is the case over here, in the Despatcher. And here - messages listed by time, oldest first. Confusingly, as I look at the moment the older messages have time+date but the last 27 hours or so just has time. -- Best regards, MFPA Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre Sorting
Hello TBUDL, When I open Connection Centre (Despatch all messages on the server), the messages are sorted in a seemingly random fashion. As far as I can tell, they aren't sorted by any of thecolumns listed in Connection Centre (so, Size, From, To, Subject or Time). I want the messages sorted by Time, latest message at the top - so I click on the Time column twice (first to sort by earliest message, then second time to sort by latest message). The problem is - as soon as Connection Centre is closed, the sort order is lost. So that when I next open Connection Centre, the sort order of the messages is back to the random way it was sorted the first time. So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection Centre by Time, permanently? -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre Sorting
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:57:10 +1100, Grumpy Gamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, can anyone tell me if it is possible to sort the Connection Centre by Time, permanently? And of course, by 'connection centre' I actually mean the 'Message Despatcher' (the window that pops up after the connection centre has completed checking the mail server). Sorry about that. -- Regards, GG Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hi Thomas Fernandez, On Saturday, 25 August 2007, you wrote: Hello Secret, On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:29:34 +1000 GMT (24/08/2007, 21:29 +0700 GMT), Secret Squirrel wrote: SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand corner SS of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the screen, Can't confirm. Stays where it's put here. Here too. SS Nuts - it would have to be something that only affects my PC. SS Definitely as soon as I close The Bat, the connection centre SS resets to the bottom right hand corner of the screen :( My guess would be that you don't have write permissions to the registry. I that possible? It's a stand-alone PC and I'm running an admin account, so I don't think it was that. I'm not sure how, but it looks like it definitely was the Minimise to the System Tray setting. After I disabled that, moved the connection centre, and then re-enabled that setting, the connection centre window has stayed where I dragged it (the middle of the screen). I can't even begin to understand how that setting could affect the connection centre! I guess I should experiment some more (disabling and re-enabling that setting and dragging the connection centre around the screen), but now that it is in the place that I want it, I'm a bit reluctant to fool with things. I think I will leave it at that, and at least this message is on the list now, so if anyone else has the same problem, it might give them a potential solution. -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hello Secret, On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:53:44 +1000 GMT (26/08/2007, 20:53 +0700 GMT), Secret Squirrel wrote: My guess would be that you don't have write permissions to the registry. I that possible? SS It's a stand-alone PC and I'm running an admin account, so I don't think it was that. I'm SS not sure how, but it looks like it definitely was the Minimise to the System Tray setting. SS After I disabled that, moved the connection centre, and then re-enabled that setting, the SS connection centre window has stayed where I dragged it (the middle of the screen). I can't SS even begin to understand how that setting could affect the connection centre! That could be a bug, other people (including myself when I have the time) should do the testing. SS I guess I should experiment some more (disabling and re-enabling SS that setting and dragging the connection centre around the SS screen), but now that it is in the place that I want it, I'm a bit SS reluctant to fool with things. That's understandable. SS I think I will leave it at that, and at least this message is on SS the list now, so if anyone else has the same problem, it might SS give them a potential solution. If it's a big (and we need to investigate that), it should be entered into the bugtracker. -- Cheers, Thomas. Top 10 Reasons To Go To Work Naked: 7. To stop those creepy guys in Marketing from looking down your blouse. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre
Hello Secret, Friday, August 24, 2007, 4:58:48 PM, you wrote: SS Hm, it may be due to the Minimise to the System Tray setting. I had SS it enabled (I never used to, I only enabled SS it a few weeks ago). What I did a few minutes ago was disable that SS setting, checked my emails and dragged the SS connection centre window to the middle of the screen. I then exited SS from The Bat. I re-opened The Bat and checked my SS emails again, and this time the connection centre window had stayed SS in the middle of the screen where I had dragged SS it. Interesting. No confirmation g. My setting is _ always_ minimize to systray. Untill now the CC was in the middle of my screen. I think I choose for this place in the past.. I dragged the CC to the upper left corner, restarted The Bat!, tried again and there was the CC again in the upper left corner... (I then moved it again to the middle g) -- Best regards, Jos Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Connection Centre
JK No confirmation g. My setting is _ always_ minimize to systray. Untill JK now the CC was in the middle of my screen. I think I choose for this place JK in the past.. JK I dragged the CC to the upper left corner, restarted The Bat!, tried again JK and there was the CC again in the upper left corner... JK (I then moved it again to the middle g) And when I disable min. to systray: after a restart same stable result.. (now set to upper right corner g). -- Best regards, Jos Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hi Richard Wakeford, On Thursday, 23 August 2007, you wrote: Hello Secret, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand corner SS of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the screen, Can't confirm. Stays where it's put here. Hi, Nuts - it would have to be something that only affects my PC. Definitely as soon as I close The Bat, the connection centre resets to the bottom right hand corner of the screen :( -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hi Roelof Otten, On Friday, 24 August 2007, you wrote: Hallo Secret, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:51:42 +1000GMT (23-8-2007, 14:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand SS corner of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the SS screen, the change only lasts as long as you have The Bat open. If SS you close The Bat, open it and bring up connection centre again, SS it has reverted to being positioned in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. Can't confirm. Haven't seen that behaviour in TB version yet. Are you using a multiple monitor system? Hm, it may be due to the Minimise to the System Tray setting. I had it enabled (I never used to, I only enabled it a few weeks ago). What I did a few minutes ago was disable that setting, checked my emails and dragged the connection centre window to the middle of the screen. I then exited from The Bat. I re-opened The Bat and checked my emails again, and this time the connection centre window had stayed in the middle of the screen where I had dragged it. Interesting. -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hi Roelof Otten, On Friday, 24 August 2007, you wrote: Hallo Secret, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:51:42 +1000GMT (23-8-2007, 14:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand SS corner of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the SS screen, the change only lasts as long as you have The Bat open. If SS you close The Bat, open it and bring up connection centre again, SS it has reverted to being positioned in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. Can't confirm. Haven't seen that behaviour in TB version yet. Are you using a multiple monitor system? Nope, only using a single monitor. I don't think my vga card even has a connector for a second monitor. I have no clue what the problem could be - it sounds like it is something on my PC rather than being a general problem in one of The Bat versions. -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hello Secret, On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:29:34 +1000 GMT (24/08/2007, 21:29 +0700 GMT), Secret Squirrel wrote: SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand corner SS of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the screen, Can't confirm. Stays where it's put here. Here too. SS Nuts - it would have to be something that only affects my PC. SS Definitely as soon as I close The Bat, the connection centre SS resets to the bottom right hand corner of the screen :( My guess would be that you don't have write permissions to the registry. I that possible? -- Cheers, Thomas. Ohnosecond: That minuscule fraction of time in which you realize you've just made a big mistake. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre
Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand corner of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the screen, the change only lasts as long as you have The Bat open. If you close The Bat, open it and bring up connection centre again, it has reverted to being positioned in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. -- Regards, Secret Using The Bat! v3.99.3 on Windows XP Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hello Secret, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand corner SS of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the screen, Can't confirm. Stays where it's put here. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.21 (BETA) with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.0.7 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre
Hallo Secret, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:51:42 +1000GMT (23-8-2007, 14:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: SS Bug? The connection centre defaults to the bottom right hand SS corner of the screen. If you drag it to say the middle of the SS screen, the change only lasts as long as you have The Bat open. If SS you close The Bat, open it and bring up connection centre again, SS it has reverted to being positioned in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. Can't confirm. Haven't seen that behaviour in TB version yet. Are you using a multiple monitor system? -- Groetjes, Roelof PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.21 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqTn5hukozM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and IMAP
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:15:57 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: With my IMAP accounts the connection centre never hides, is this because TB is listening for new mails all the time? Yes. Hi Alexander Not necessarily, I've discovered that setting the When inactive disconnect after value in Mail Management properties allows the connection centre to disappear after all. I've gone for 15 secs. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and IMAP
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:15:57 +0100, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: That depends on your preference. :-) Hi Alexander Fair enough ;) -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre and IMAP
Hi I have the Connection Centre visibility set to 'Automatic' which with my POP3 acounts works as I envisaged, i.e. it disappears when not in use. With my IMAP accounts the connection centre never hides, is this because TB is listening for new mails all the time? What is the popular setting for the connection centre with IMAP accounts? -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 3.85.03 and AntispamSniper 1.6.7.3 Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre and IMAP
Hello Barry everyone else, on 28-Nov-2006 at 17:00 you (Barry) wrote: With my IMAP accounts the connection centre never hides, is this because TB is listening for new mails all the time? Yes. What is the popular setting for the connection centre with IMAP accounts? That depends on your preference. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If you want to kill any idea in the world today, get a committee working on it. -- Charles Kettering Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Trouble with Connection Centre
From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is GMX and is **usually** this one too. I can not _Delete Task_ . I can not _Abort All_. I must bring up the task manager and Kill TB! Poor Fledermaus !! Is this something that happens to others more specifically on certain Mail Servers? Does this happen regularly to many Fledermaüsers wondering if that is a real word or I made it up? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hallo Robert, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:52:59 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 12:52 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RD From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to RD check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is RD GMX and is **usually** this one too. That's a long time issue. When an already established connection with a server fails, the CC (and TB) gets stuck. It's not very strange that it's the same server most of the time, because it has something to do with the quality of your connection to the server and gmx is supposed to be on the other side of the world for you. Of course it can be related to the time you're connected to the server, suppose you get ten times as much mail from gmx as from the rest, then it's got ten times as likely that that connection fails when you've got a bad connection from your ISP. So, in other words: It's a known issue and it's not strange that it's often the same connection. I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, but you could consider to check the mail less frequently. That lessens the chance of failure. (Unless every connection with gmx is already downloading mail) -- Groetjes, Roelof The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob. The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp0zyPxLwQv6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, Roelof Otten squawked : I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. Now, I always press _check mail for all_ and that may be the REAL issue. But I have never just tried, for a month solid, to check as individual ... but will suspect that it would fix the issue indeed. Tell you what. I will check the box that says ignore this account on and just do GMX manually for a week or so. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hello Robert, On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 06:52:59 -0500, (which is 02.02.2006 at 13:52:59 +2000 where I live), you wrote: I can not _Delete Task_ . I can not _Abort All_. I must bring up the task manager and Kill TB! Poor Fledermaus !! I don't know the resoultion but the same issue was happening here when checking my GMX acount a few months ago. I found CC hung when I came back and see the status bar many times. That problem only occured in my GMX account. However now everything seems to be ok. -- Best regards, Zeynel Abidin Öztürk :flag-turkey: Running The Bat! v3.70.06 Qigong (Beta) Translation of Turkish The Bat! Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 08:29:17 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. If CC works properly then it abides to the Server Timeout, which is usually about 60 seconds (Account | Properties | Transport). If connection is not established within this time, CC simply closes/dismiss this account, for the session. I don't think it is a GMX issue, since they will rather leave a message (too frequent login, try later or similar), in Log Panel, and in no way will block Bian Fu. At least it never happen to me, having few GMX accounts for years, and some of them working quite a lot. Else, as I know, capacity of GMX Mailbox is 1 GB (for free accounts, and for pro ones much more), so a pause in checking for mail even of few days should not be a problem. CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's plugins, specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+IdW7SpHvHEUtv8AQO/1wgAl7mMsGfbDdUYkz4T9jv+83Re/1zv33J2 eiPSFpmWHLoqz+T0W7+4QeG+1zL2KLIKfCiK0zzzb9Uiqbgp2plxdEv8aeFEqpRI CAND1kwPu8JL/kDfSuOC25twYX80heKet90eK5M4sMbbuRU+tRw2Wn6RfkkrSqsa AhhuHmPNbO7GpUfd7lUaeV2uia8Ua3WZimidbMNFtrG49TImF6Hu1ErkotR9epyL xN2A4UTjlFZmzpm+6FfXWRdQjQ5Zt7aO6ocZqluJAXOLfzPwKDQTo8a711QMVObX VoNALMIzC1F1lRZlLcP87DuNTxULGPEdRVzF7TBszxmKZZ5GyZQ3Hg== =p8zR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Hello Roelof, On Thursday, February 2, 2006, 1:28:18 PM, which was 5:23:45 PM where I am, you wrote: RO On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:52:59 -0500GMT (2-2-2006, 12:52 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: RD From time to time, as right now, CC hangs up when ostensibly trying to RD check mail on one email account. The one it is hung on currently is RD GMX and is **usually** this one too. RO That's a long time issue. When an already established connection with RO a server fails, the CC (and TB) gets stuck. RO It's not very strange that it's the same server most of the time, RO because it has something to do with the quality of your connection to RO the server and gmx is supposed to be on the other side of the world RO for you. I've had the same problem for many months now, despite ADSL and a local ISP. RO Of course it can be related to the time you're connected to the RO server, suppose you get ten times as much mail from gmx as from the RO rest, then it's got ten times as likely that that connection fails RO when you've got a bad connection from your ISP. RO So, in other words: It's a known issue and it's not strange that it's RO often the same connection. RO I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, but you could RO consider to check the mail less frequently. That lessens the chance of RO failure. I find that a rather strange suggestion. I have arranged my settings so that TB! downloads mail on startup; I've also tried to download, only when I do Ctrl-F2, with many shades in-between (I even purchased the Professional Edition), but all with very relative degrees of success. Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... -- Regards, Maurice Using The Bat! 3.65.03 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
On 2/2/06, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 08:29:17 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: I don't know how much bandwidth you've got with gmx, not sure it's, as such, bandwidth. That is to say, _when_ I see it fail, as it is now for 1.6 hours according to the CC, it tried to get mail and never seemed to get out of that mode. And that is typically how it fails a first-in-an-hour email-check then fails without making it through. If CC works properly then it abides to the Server Timeout, which is usually about 60 seconds (Account | Properties | Transport). If connection is not established within this time, CC simply closes/dismiss this account, for the session. I suppose this is part of the same problem. I've had the connection center hang for days before. CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's plugins, specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. Actually, I'm pretty sure the probelm stems from The Bat, and its handling of network connections. Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. I've written about this before: once all of The Bat's traffic is routed through a proxy of some sort (k9 and something homebrew), my connection center issues went away. Things will usually time out properly. If it doesn't, I can at least always delete the task, etc. -- WL Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 17:42:20 +0100, when Maurice McAdam wrote: Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... Hahaha... Exactly. That's why some people retreat (in)to monasteries. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JO97SpHvHEUtv8AQPfYAgAi1HuKzYKtZTtsf84NSnjYsPTpNWea/ri QF/rGakFG2sp0ESs+WAPECbEQxgzdSv3Lb2FfVjXF1gcXA+uGR67mHUd+svtne3d mmV20IkLt9JEpHMy3//qDtbPFzi4F+jrwAznbi9qVvo6zR9fbVcnxNYbH4PU2qs9 aBw52M51kW60yX+oiRXMEuSWcfQQT3cqfgoePMsvK2FHHX37mGMw1Wdh+fRrBYsE cIkXw+0EmX1jfs6CdDQB/9mvRfSK7T17R7BRosKx+jg1AnUjuGZI4/DSrj05FBXI 2dyLjanvJsnywgj9g1UUTbu5VmHFD/k0Xq9AvgCfTrsyrw7R1BtKIg== =oW/g -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
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~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006,
@ @ at 15:55:24 +0100, when Mica Mijatovic wrote:
I don't think it is a GMX issue, since they will rather leave a
message (too frequent login, try later or similar), in Log Panel,
and in no way will block Bian Fu.
Those are server's messages like this...
!4306-05-29, 12:03:07: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
- -ERR logged in too frequently, try again in 3 minute(s).
...where the number of minutes may wary, from one to 7, 8, 9 etc. Or
messages like this...
!4305-06-18, 22:48:05: SEND - Server reports error. The response is:
4.3.2 {mp013} Too many mails (mass delivery by gmx user), try again in 7
minute(s)
...and this...
!4305-12-11, 23:56:31: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is:
- -ERR System temporarily unavailable, please try again later...
...etc.
- --
Mica
PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/
[Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing]
OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium
Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes,
Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine...
~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given
in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~
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Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Recently, WL opined : Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. Yes, OK, I will give it a try. Por la Mica : I don't see the messages about too frequent email checks when this has happened/is happening ... I have SEEN those type messages but you certainly realise that IF I am able to see the Don't bother gmx message then CC DID function correctly. And I have varied timeout to no avail And what is Bian Fu: and who much do I owe him? -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 11:39:40 -0600, when WL wrote: CC usually freezes for other reasons rather, mostly related to Bian Fu's plugins, specific settings/maintenance and OS's issues. Actually, I'm pretty sure the probelm stems from The Bat, and its handling of network connections. Try going through something like a proxy, k9 for examle. I've written about this before: once all of The Bat's traffic is routed through a proxy of some sort (k9 and something homebrew), my connection center issues went away. Things will usually time out properly. If it doesn't, I can at least always delete the task, etc. Both might be the case, I agree. I can just tell/report what I practise, if that can be of some help to others, namely... I choose a version which is (enough) stable (otherwise fixing/reporting bugs might become an endless process and a merriment for/of millions, while the action/work limps). I must confess and unbosom that I have no much patience/time with/for buggy software, and am rather prone to change it and/or apply some workaround or a specific routine, than to work and spend my time (additionally) on what is actually programer's duty. If someone makes a program with just few -+ irrelevant bugs, or even without them, that's okay for me. But if a program is constantly flooded with those insects which are actually quite relevant, influencing thus its functionality, then I get rid of it, I kick it out and take something I can do my work with. In the case of Komori! it's a clean application (no plugins, no jokes) and as fewer interactions as possible with outer programs. With The Flying Mammal! having that powerful, in general, filtering system, with a little bit of an once-but-for-ever work, no additional anti-spam program is needed at all. Those and such are the charms of La Chauve-Souris! - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JelbSpHvHEUtv8AQOOSgf/XDP7+yA4g37e4aHmDTGe2bD+rO/VrgdE KqB9/k//oOJ046gzeqqO5knCYOwXdO8lzBrDmAqZkLkG7odofnqaHSqEjJPP+ZxO 76gMhaWEyz4Ys0PPCgoAWsOFxytMYVL/FKZuqRV19KGhAMEO5IIGBfh864eMJRem J24bw4tSucfDD4fS7RorOFj5J8/BPGFLoVRV82sPKu25U1n2sPTky20fd1sDdJ0N EKffzNfInqEnfcpJKAheRVwJH61xoIi70Yg1tdHYltGXVEo5uc0e19uocBXd2GHk 3XEtnsPrHjfe4KLYEfgYsFQaBYMxo5x7imtywx0zNkv/7JCoYkBQTA== =X+MX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 2 Feb 2006, @ @ at 14:37:05 -0500, when Robert D. wrote: Por la Mica : I don't see the messages about too frequent email checks when this has happened/is happening ... I have SEEN those type messages but you certainly realise that IF I am able to see the Don't bother gmx message then CC DID function correctly. If I had known that you have seen them, I would realize that, yes. And what is Bian Fu: and who much do I owe him? Bian Fu is La Chauve-Souris in Chinese. It might be both she and he. You do owe them both good and bad moments in your e-mailing life. Including the CC's lethargy/numbness. Btw, do you have male or female copy of Komori? (: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://blueness.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 519 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium Windows XP(ee) Micro Lite Professional 1.6, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector Linuxes via Wine... ~~~ For personal mail please use my address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEVAwUBQ+JnB7SpHvHEUtv8AQPO3QgAsdsqcpfG79qIq1Vz3TY1t79KfBfDI0nb cWuIFcTDcqOrVJpGCq8oX7XW5mP4AEoss5cqajd8lT5XyzemEeKiRcXZeV+ZLLIc Wfa2aNf7UNPTJcO3HMDzHJSigiDntRbOaCedhB9abtukjTVwJVLXJNjKNAGosk3z EIgGV7X9eEXq/buK977s0kNObgSVIvtzse9OoJzEJ3xkizi6lyFPPTg7es3QNFag MKguHQf6sPt8pIuNwlD3u1vmhD3CMJSBvsMZUFceZTXuhFH3QFiMlpAjquLQMvr9 Cg33IlVMqobWvClfYMWWpytGrnqNB9CDK6KHKMlxXnBC9UZP4Ag2UA== =aVQ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 at 17:42:20 +0100, Maurice wrote: Logically, I guess, if I stopped trying to access my email for a week, I would be free of the problem for a good seven days... Good thinking 99! -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.3 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble with Connection Centre
Robin Anson waved a wand then said : Good thinking 99! MAXWELL !!! Answer your bloody shoe !! -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello Paul, On Sunday, December 4, 2005, 5:18:36 AM, which was 12:52:59 PM where I am, you wrote: PB Is there a better way to recover from this? PB When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit PB from Task Manager. I have had to do this regularly. Most annoying. I have unchecked Check Mailbox at Startup and when I want to download mail, I now do it via Account Dispatch Mail on Server. So far, anyway, that avoids me having to use Task Manager. PB Then The Bat would open but not respond. Fortunately, for me, it's never gotten that bad. PB So I uninstalled The Bat, ran Registry Mechanic to clean registry, PB Reboot PB Install from scratch PB Tools - Restore from the last backup. PB Luckily the backup was only 3 days old. PB The filters and sub-folders (of the Inbox) did not restore, and have PB to be rebuilt. PB Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again? PB (I sent this earlier, but it seemed to bounce. So trying again.) PB -- -- Regards, Maurice Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunday, December 4, 2005, 4:48:19 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Paul, TF On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:12:43 +1100 GMT (04/12/2005, 12:12 +0700 GMT), TF Paul Berger wrote: PB Forget about this now. PB Have found the solution in Mail Archive in PB August. TF OK, so what was the solution? (message-id would be sufficient if you TF don't want to repeat the whole procedure). The solution was to use RegEdit32 Find HKey_CurrentUser - Software - RIT - TheBat Export this, TheBat entry, as a backup. If the problem comes back, use RegEdit32 to delete the troublesome registry entry and then import the registry entry that you had backed up. Have done the backup, and hope I don't have to use the backup. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...The only person getting his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunday, December 4, 2005, 4:46:14 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Paul, TF On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:18:36 +1100 GMT (04/12/2005, 11:18 +0700 GMT), TF Paul Berger wrote: PB When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit PB from Task Manager. Then The Bat would open but not respond. PB So I uninstalled The Bat, TF Isn't that a bit drastic? PB Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again? TF If TB doesn't respond after opening, try alt-F4 (I'm serious). Yes, drastic having to uninstall. alt-F4 would not work on it, only task manager. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Second childhood? I haven't finished the first one. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sunday, December 4, 2005, 10:59:04 PM, you wrote: MM Hello Paul, MM On Sunday, December 4, 2005, 5:18:36 AM, which was 12:52:59 PM MM where I am, you wrote: PB Is there a better way to recover from this? PB When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit PB from Task Manager. MM I have had to do this regularly. Most annoying. MM I have unchecked Check Mailbox at Startup and when I want to MM download mail, I now do it via Account Dispatch Mail on Server. MM So far, anyway, that avoids me having to use Task Manager. ...snip Thanks for this suggestion. So far have not had to resort to this, and am keeping my fingers crossed. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Is there a better way to recover from this? When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit from Task Manager. Then The Bat would open but not respond. So I uninstalled The Bat, ran Registry Mechanic to clean registry, Reboot Install from scratch Tools - Restore from the last backup. Luckily the backup was only 3 days old. The filters and sub-folders (of the Inbox) did not restore, and have to be rebuilt. Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again? -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Is there a better way to recover from this? When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit from Task Manager. Then The Bat would open but not respond. So I uninstalled The Bat, ran Registry Mechanic to clean registry, Reboot Install from scratch Tools - Restore from the last backup. Luckily the backup was only 3 days old. The filters and sub-folders (of the Inbox) did not restore, and have to be rebuilt. Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again? (I sent this earlier, but it seemed to bounce. So trying again.) -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Experience is the name I give to my mistakes Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Forget about this now. Have found the solution in Mail Archive in August. -- Paul - Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 ...Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected become the expected? Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello Paul, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:18:36 +1100 GMT (04/12/2005, 11:18 +0700 GMT), Paul Berger wrote: PB When downloading mail, it stopped on the last email, so I forced exit PB from Task Manager. Then The Bat would open but not respond. PB So I uninstalled The Bat, Isn't that a bit drastic? PB Does anyone know of a quicker or better fix if this happens again? If TB doesn't respond after opening, try alt-F4 (I'm serious). -- Cheers, Thomas. When nobody is looking, Power Users pretend their mouse is a toy car, and race it around the desk. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connection Centre hung The Bat is not responding
Hello Paul, On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:12:43 +1100 GMT (04/12/2005, 12:12 +0700 GMT), Paul Berger wrote: PB Forget about this now. PB Have found the solution in Mail Archive in PB August. OK, so what was the solution? (message-id would be sufficient if you don't want to repeat the whole procedure). -- Cheers, Thomas. You should never kiss a girl unless you have enough bucks or buy her a big ring and her own VCR, 'cause she'll want to have videos of the wedding. (Jim, 10) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:07:07 + GMT, Admin wrote:
I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the template
funstionality that
is broken from then on.
However, I now have the problem that comes with that version:
The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process cannot be
aborted. The only
waiy out being to kill TB service in the Task Manager.
Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or did it just
'go away' with
the next version?
I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to
Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me.
I have had hangs since but only if I do like this (not every time ;{:
1. Check mail
2. Mail is being downloaded and filtered.
3. The first mails appear in the Mail Ticker.
4. Double click on the Mail Ticker before the Connection Centre is
done, and then the downloading of mail just stops and I have to
close The Bat! from the Task Manager.
Sometimes I also have problems with the Connection Centre just
staying active, without any visible tasks. Just exiting The Bat! and
starting it again will fix that problem nicely.
Hope it helps ;)
--
/Fredrik
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Re[2]: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me. Yes I find it's OK in 3.62.x but I can't use that at the moment because the templates for new messages from common folders is broken! I was hoping someone would have a fix that was temporary. I will just have to keep killing TB with Task Manager. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:03:52 + GMT, Marten wrote: I had problems with this in the past, 3.62.x and/or switching to Bayes Filter Plugin made the problem go away for me. Yes I find it's OK in 3.62.x but I can't use that at the moment because the templates for new messages from common folders is broken! I was hoping someone would have a fix that was temporary. I will just have to keep killing TB with Task Manager. And I guess that you wait until the Connection Centre is done before clicking in the Mail Ticker? ;). Also, if you have any spamcontrolplugin you could disable that, but I guess that if so you have already tried that... Best of luck. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
Hello Marten, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 2:07:07 PM, which was 2:47:32 PM where I am, you wrote: AaA I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the AaA template funstionality that is broken from then on. AaA However, I now have the problem that comes with that version: AaA The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process AaA cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in AaA the Task Manager. AaA Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or AaA did it just 'go away' with the next version? I have had to use Task Manager on a regular basis, since TB! would hang every time I downloaded. I have upgraded, downgraded and upgraded again. I am delighted to say that my current version (3.62.14) - so far, anyway - is doing extremely well. Don't know anything about 'template functionality' though. Good luck. -- Regards, Maurice Using The Bat! 3.62.14 on Windows XP Pro 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB won't close after connection centre hangs
On 11/25/05, Maurice McAdam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marten, On Thursday, November 24, 2005, 2:07:07 PM, which was 2:47:32 PM where I am, you wrote: AaA The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process AaA cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in AaA the Task Manager. AaA Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or AaA did it just 'go away' with the next version? I have had to use Task Manager on a regular basis, since TB! would hang every time I downloaded. I have upgraded, downgraded and upgraded again. I am delighted to say that my current version (3.62.14) - so far, anyway - is doing extremely well. Don't know anything about 'template functionality' though. I've been using TB since 2.x, and currently on 3.62.10. This hanging connection center thing has been around for a while... I've narrowed this down to an issue with how TB handles netwok connections (duh, right?). Using a VPN, I've been able to reproduce these symptoms on demand. Because of how the VPN works, I haven't been able to turn a packet sniffer on it to see what is really happening. All I can tell is that, for me, the hanging connection center will happen if the network connection is in a transitory state: the vpn is being setup or being torn down when TB hits the network. This is a case where the network seems ok, but it really isn't. Knowing/Assuming this, my workaround is to ensure the network connection is always solid through the use of proxies. I have 1 pop account that goes through k9 and then a ssh tunnel, and 1 pop and 1 imap through a proxy which then hits the vpn. If the connection center ever hangs, I can either stop the ssh tunnel or k9 to unwedge that account, or I can restart my local proxy to unwedge those accounts. I've been using this setup for about 3 or 4 months now, and I haven't had to force quit TB. Whee -- WL Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB won't close after connection centre hangs
I have, as sig says, gone back to 3.51.10 because I need the template funstionality that is broken from then on. However, I now have the problem that comes with that version: The connection centre hangs on random accounts and the process cannot be aborted. The only waiy out being to kill TB service in the Task Manager. Was there ever a 'fix' whatever identified for this problem or did it just 'go away' with the next version? -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.51.10 with POPFile 0.22.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.
Hello, I've an odd problem with running The Bat and NAV2005 and I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas or come across the problem before. I upgraded NAV2000 to NAV2005 the other day for some strange reason which I cannot yet fathom out!* On starting up TB the splash screen opens followed by the main TB 3 pane window. At this stage the Connection Centre would normally open but it doesn't. I get a musical 'ping' followed by a typically useful windows(bat) error message of 'System Error Code 87' 'The parameter is in correct' with an invition to click it's sole 'OK' button. On clicking the OK button all I'm left with is the main 3 pane window. Email continues to be collected and sent and on clicking 'Get New Mail' the CC appears. But in the accounts column on my left the slider button is at the bottom but the list isn't and I have to use the mouse wheel to scroll down. If I select an account read I can read the messages but I cannot get back into the accounts list. I have to click the window button at the bottom of the screen to be able to get back into the accounts list. Very tiresome! Turning off NAV email protection makes no difference but turning off the auto-protect does. So in effect I turn off NAV to get TB to function normally. Just wondered if anyone had come across this before? *I know that NAV is sometimes considered the spawn of satan so I'm not looking for 'You shouldn't have installed NAV2005' plse. :) Also I know I've got an old Bat, but I like using an old Bat as you can get a good score with an old bat sometimes! -- David Stone (UK) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! Version 2.12.00. Platform Windows 98SE 4.10. Ver. A I.E. Version: 6.0.2800.11061C SP1 Customised. Regarding base: 360385 word(s) BayesIt! 0.5.5 Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.
Hello David. --On 19 May 2005 12:56 +0100 you wrote about Norton Antivirus 2005 and connection centre startup problem.: I've an odd problem with running Don't tell me, your knees knock together, your toes turn in and it chafes the tops of your legs? -- Tony. M. pgp7zetDQaat1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection centre hang
Hello Ian, On Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 1:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ The Connection Centre (the window that monitors incoming/outgoing PJ mail) has started to hang after a new mail download. After mail is PJ downloaded, the Connection Centre sits on the last account and does PJ not close. ... IAW I get it happening occasionally but only when it is not the foreground IAW window. If you make it the foreground window and download new IAW messages, it should clear itself when finished. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to make a difference if the window is in the background or foreground... just tested it now and the Connection Centre window is still open, blank now, even though the connection is finished. And, if I then manually close the Connection Centre window, then close TB!, I get the warning window: Some tasks are now active. Do you want to exit when they are finished? So I guess it is still technically open. It is an annoyance, and I'm not used to this in TB! :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection centre hang
Hello, The Connection Centre (the window that monitors incoming/outgoing mail) has started to hang after a new mail download. After mail is downloaded, the Connection Centre sits on the last account and does not close. Is this a bug; is there a solution or workaround? I should mention, though I hope it is not related, that I have just restored TB from a backup to a new computer. Thanks! -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection centre always on
how to remove it, can any one help ! TN Options/Preferences TN Change Display Connection Centre: Automatically|Always|Hide It's kind of useful, but a pain to toggle, so I map ctrl-alt-C to show and shift-ctrl-alt-C to hide. I Use it mostly on a Monday morning when TB!'s catching up on a weekend's worth of SPAM/groups and can seem to chug on forever. -- Nick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
connection centre always on
hi, new to this forum the connection centre always on how to remove it, can any one help ! --- pkr using v3.0 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: connection centre always on
Hæ! Tuesday, October 12, 2004, 07:35, pkr bat wrote: how to remove it, can any one help ! Options/Preferences Change Display Connection Centre: Automatically|Always|Hide -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.1 RC7 | PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Hello Deborah, Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:11:58 PM, you wrote: DS After experimenting with the mail settings, I am now able to download DS as well as send. This seemed to happen spontaneously; I've no idea DS how. Here are the settings that work well, I'm glad you got it working, I flagged that message to refer back to , thanks for the info!! -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Paul Cartwright I had an earthlink account a while back, and TB worked for me, no problem. + Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings on 1 September. The problem is that since they don't support TB and since the logical substitutions of new settings for old didn't work, they wouldn't help me. Paul Cartwright ... did you try using the web interface, did it work? have you tried using another email program ... to see if you get the same results? Tim If you suspect Earthlink is the problem, why not install something they do support. + I tried my backup, Eudora. I don't use Microsoft e-mail clients on principle. Eudora didn't work because I have 3.0. What Earthlink didn't, wouldn't, couldn't tell me--because the help desk folks follow a script and don't, won't, can't think outside the box--is that the new settings have extra authorization requirements. I knew TB could handle this and I reviewed the settings with Rhoda (not her real name), and Max (ditto), who kept repeating the script: Sorry, we don't support ... The Bat? Can you spell that please? No, I don't know what RFC 2554 means. Sorry, we don't support ... The Bat? Can you spell that please? They suggested that I start using Outlook. But I don't use Microsoft e-mail clients on principle. We had a double circular discussion going. After experimenting with the mail settings, I am now able to download as well as send. This seemed to happen spontaneously; I've no idea how. Here are the settings that work: Account Properties Send mail SMTP Server smtpauth.earthlink.net Connection Regular Port25 Authentication _x_ Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554) ___ Use settings of Mail Retrieval _x_ Use specific settings (greyed out: Store password on the token) User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Password ** ___ Require secure (MD5) authentication ___ Use POP before SMTP authentication Receive mail Mail Server pop.mindspring.com Userusername Password** Connection Regular ProtocolPOP3 Port110 Authentication _x_ Regular ___ MSN (NTLM) ___ MD5 APOP Challenge/Response (RFC-1734) ___ MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response (RFC-2095) (token MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response greyed out) ___ Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval Hope this is helpful to someone else. Earthlink domain mail settings (mine is Mindspring) can be looked up on their site. I still think Ritlabs needs to contact Earthlink et al. and educate them. Cheers, and thanks for all the advice. Deborah -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] running The Bat v 2.00.6 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Thursday, September 23, 2004, 2:11:58 PM, Deborah wrote: + Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings on 1 September. The problem is they don't support anything anymore. They've outsourced tech support to idiots. snip After experimenting with the mail settings, I am now able to download as well as send. So is your problem solved, or no? (I missed your earlier messages.) Here are the settings that work: Account Properties Send mail SMTP Server smtpauth.earthlink.net It may be they will migrate everyone to this crappy authentication system, but so far you can simply bypass this by using smtp.mindspring.com or just mindspring.com. One of my office mates just went through this same runaround (got some ominous, imposing e-mail from Earthlink claiming no one could send e-mail except through the new servers) and finally got one of the brainless tech support people to admit that she didn't actually have to use the auth server at all! She just uses smtp.mindspring.com and her e-mail now works fine. Especially since I see your account is mindspring and not earthlink I have to think the mindspring servers will work for you. It's at least worth a shot. I've used Earthlink as my DSL and dial-up provider for years. I still use just mindpsring.com without problems. -- Cordially, - twf === Terry FrazierAtlanta, GA Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Hello Deborah, Tuesday, September 21, 2004, 9:01:17 PM, you wrote: DS HELP, please. I can't send or receive mail. DS Boy, do I miss the speed and simple elegance of Pine, Lynx, and a DS shell account ... no bells and whistles, just the info you needed, DS fast and sleek.) Have you tried telnet? It's always my first step when having problems like this. POP: telnet pop.mindspring.com 110 user [EMAIL PROTECTED] pass password stat //gives your message count etc. list //lists all message # and size retr # //download message # dele # //delet message # rset //reset all the things that you've done SMTP: telnet smtpauth.earthlink.net 25 ...and then you'll have to google I'm afraid! -- Nick Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Hallo Deborah, On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:38:00 -0400 (EDT)GMT (22-9-2004, 3:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: me HELP, please. I can't send or receive mail ... The first me message downloads, but it stays on the server. Roelof Otten ... you could try to change your Roelof Otten settings to leave mail on server for 60 days ... DS That's not practical. I can fill up the 10 MB allowed by my DS ISP in less than a week. It wasn't meant as a permanent solution, but as temporary one, because leaving mail on server keeps TB from downloading the same message again when the download is aborted. I didn't mention it in my previous message, but did you check whether you've got a lot of bat*.tmp files in your temp directory? If so delete them. They're generally caused by this kind of problems, but they tend to worsen them too. You've said that it's the second message that won't download. Is that always the same message? (Since you've deleted quite a bit manually.) What you could try too, is to disable both your virus scanner and firewall (I presume that you're running a variety of both), just to check whether one of them is causing problems with your download. Finally you could try whether somebody else can download your mail for you and put it in a .zip or .rar archive available for download. So your mailbox will be empty since all possible obstructive mails will be deleted. And you could try with a fresh box. Keep in mind that this means that that other person will have access to your mail until you change your password (if you can), so a certain amount of trust has to be present. DS However, on another account, I unticked use POP before DS SMTP, and ticked use SMTP authentication, use specific DS settings (and put in mail address and password)--and that worked DS for a test mail to myself. Or at least it SEEMED to. Still can't DS download. One down, one to go. DS -- BTW, your signature delimiter is lacking its trailing space. I do realize that you're using webmail (in spite of what you're stating below), so you might not have sufficient control over what's being sent, but nevertheless it's broken. DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] DS using TB 2.00.6 -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 3.0.0.16 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. pgpraheoYpfS7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 9:38:39 AM, Nick Dutton wrote: Have you tried telnet? It's always my first step when having problems like this. Or you could try something like Popcorn, which is a small email client which works with mail on the server - a bit like an advanced Message Despatcher. There used to be a freeware version which unlimited accounts (which I might be able to find and send you). It now costs USD20 and the freeware version is limited to one account. Still useful for emergencies, however. http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn/ -- Julian Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:15:07 +0200 GMT (22/09/2004, 16:15 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: RO Roelof Otten ... you could try to change your RO Roelof Otten settings to leave mail on server for 60 days ... DS That's not practical. I can fill up the 10 MB allowed by my DS ISP in less than a week. RO It wasn't meant as a permanent solution, but as temporary one, because RO leaving mail on server keeps TB from downloading the same message RO again when the download is aborted. You are referring to a bug that was fixed a long time ago. TB will not download the same message again, even if you do not leave messages on server. However, the message will not be deleted on the server unless the download is finished with the QUIT command, but that's technical. Referring to Deborah's other question: No, it is not possible to pause the despatcher. -- Cheers, Thomas. Junk is something you've kept for years and throw away three weeks before you need it. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.12.02 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Nick Dutton Have you tried telnet? Julian Beach Or you could try something like Popcorn ... http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn/ + Those are both excellent suggestions. Thank you for them. Roelof Otten ... you could try to change your settings to leave mail on server for 60 days ... me That's not practical. I can fill up the 10 MB allowed by my ISP in less than a week. Roelof Otten It wasn't meant as a permanent solution ... leaving mail on server keeps TB from downloading the same message again when the download is aborted. + Ah, I see. For the duration of the attempt. Ta. Roelof Otten ... did you check whether you've got a lot of bat*.tmp files in your temp directory? If so delete them. + Nary a one. Roelof Otten You've said that it's the second message that won't download. Is that always the same message? + No, it changes after I delete the first message manually. Roelof Otten ... you could try ... to disable both your virus scanner and firewall ... + Last resort. I'm not willing to do that yet. I suspect Earthlink is the culprit, but they deny it. Since they don't support TB--in fact, have never heard of it, it's easy for them to deny. I think they *should* support it. Ritlabs should contact them (and all other big ISPs), give them a complimentary copy, and educate them. They support Eudora, after all. Roelof Otten ...somebody else can download your mail for you ... + Penultimate resort. Or maybe not. I have a laptop, a wireless modem, and a friend who has DSL and a wireless router. Hmmm. At least I can send now. -- Deborah [EMAIL PROTECTED] version 2.00.6 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
Hello Deborah, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, 4:19:31 PM, you wrote: DS Last resort. I'm not willing to do that yet. I suspect Earthlink is DS the culprit, but they deny it. Since they don't support TB--in fact, DS have never heard of it, it's easy for them to deny. I think they DS *should* support it. Ritlabs should contact them (and all other big DS ISPs), give them a complimentary copy, and educate them. They support DS Eudora, after all. I had an earthlink account a while back, and TB worked for me, no problem. sorry, I haven't been following the thread, did you try using the web interface, did it work? have you tried using another email program, mozilla for instance, to see if you get the same results? -- Best regards, Paul Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Help! Connection Centre--can't send or receive mail
DS I suspect Earthlink is the culprit, but they deny it. Since they DS don't support TB--in fact, have never heard of it, it's easy for DS them to deny. If you suspect Earthlink is the problem, why not install something they do support. If it doesn't work, then they'll have to help to get it working. I always start up Outlook Express before I call my ISP about a problem, and find this saves a lot of time arguing about whether I'm using a modern email program. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
