Re: Using TB with dual boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 23:51:05 -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: ACM> Yes, you do need to make changes! Another thing. Do not start up TB! before making these registry changes or things could get messed up. Do I need to write the disclaimer as well that you make these changes at your own risk (for want of ini files)? FWIW, I've done them before personally and know that it works. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Going the speed of light is bad for your age. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc2JV/AXeSHuB5k3EQLNQQCeMyRfAXX7gNXHEAxp8krsP7WeNRkAoKGl 3LX2L4ovJdmqNNRcL7uB/Tar =z9KQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:19:48 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: CT>> when I hit the reply button the only included text is that which CT>> was highlighted. Simply hitting reply without highlighting CT>> includes all the original text. Can This be acheived in TB? MDP> Just did it here. F4 is the keystroke to reply quoting only MDP> selected text. or hold down while hitting the reply button. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "((HYPNOTIC(((TAG LINE " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc3OVvAXeSHuB5k3EQLVrACg8sIJ/dsfodgpexR6ZbDx2oWUpGgAoKr9 VvAdsKVK9HmenfN4ycIs1J/L =N/OB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Split pane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:32:09 +0100, Graham wrote: MDP>> I have never used it myself (well, okay ... once or twice when over MDP>> zealous on trimming quotes) and it is turn off with the menu option MDP>> View -- Original Text on the Message edit menu. G> Can't find this Mark. Could you check its there? In the message editor window, go to the 'View' menu. At the bottom of the list is 'Original text'. It's there alright. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc3Q+/AXeSHuB5k3EQI4hQCgksUD4CJHjlo7Dt4B/OuhTqq6v0oAnROI pYQS3GEj/i5jltr1dLaf+p16 =g/SZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:07:51 +0100, Deryk Lister wrote: DL> Works well ;) DL> Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out signatures DL> where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning of a signature is DL> mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. It'd be real nice to DL> get rid of all 3! Here's one that works: %REGEXPQUOTES="(?s)(.*?)(^(-\s)?--(\s)?\n|^(-\s)?---(\s)?\n|\Z)" It will work with dash-space-dash-dash, dash-dash or dash-dash-space. DL> Starting to like those regexp things... Yeah, they're really nice. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A man needs a good memory after he has lied. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4cOvAXeSHuB5k3EQILrgCfRiItAzdYs6SKAta5yqgllvjaEQoAoPqz nZPbR9gnwiZ3/Um64t6c8Y3e =gkTW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 10:31:54 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> Would someone be so kind as to explain the %ISSIGNATURE macro to me? JR> I don't understand it's use. Many thanks. It's used to replace signatures. It will detect a signature as text that is followed by the TB! signature delimiter dash-dash-space (see me signature below). Take an example. Here's what my TBUDL signature looks like. It's set up as a quick template: - ------start template- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" " Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1 %REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" %FROM="A. Curtis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" %ISSIGNATURE %SIGNCOMPLETE - --end template--- Note the presence of the %ISSIGNATURE macro. The handle for this signature is 'tbudl' If I wish create a new message or a reply to someone and I wish to use my TBUDL signature, I simply type 'tbudl' and the signature in the message disappears and is automagically replaced with the TBUDL signature. NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature delimiter will appear twice. Hope that helps. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "$$$ not found -- (A)bort (R)efinance (B)ankrupt " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4ed/AXeSHuB5k3EQLEvwCgiuQ5eYwTbkNVtZBz4qj1Qhye6HEAn1b4 lFUjccxQJgZ/AxHcNzAG2GKC =MsLX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Anybody have an ad-remover for messages from egroups.com lists?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:24:05 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: DL>> Works well ;) DL>> Perhaps someone would like to also make one that strips out signatures DL>> where the dash-dash-space that denotes the beginning of a signature is DL>> mangled by PGP to become dash-space-dash-dash. It'd be real nice to DL>> get rid of all 3! MDP> That one should be doing it already (I already changed it)! This is true. Marck's regex is an all purpose one. :-))) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Always remember you're unique - just like everyone else. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4e3/AXeSHuB5k3EQIFCwCcCU6GtUT2uIuDnjddATHXtV4rarcAnjr3 ZVrIkaz5BAyzIVHS39GTVMab =I16F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:55:57 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM>> NB// The %ISSIGNATURE tends to insert the signature delimiter ACM>> automatically so there's no need to define it in the template. If ACM>> you do, then when you do a signature replacement, the signature ACM>> delimiter will appear twice. MDP> And, to confuse even further, if you use the %ISSIGNATURE macro in MDP> a quick template and %QINCLUDE that QT into a normal template then MDP> in *that* circumstance it *doesn't* add its' own delimiter and MDP> unless you have the delimiter /in/ the main template then *no* MDP> delimiter will appear. :-/ MDP> No, I don't understand why nor do I understand the logic, but MDP> that's how it works and I'm used to it now. I have noted this as well but assumed that the %ISSIGNATURE template will kick in only if another signature is already present. IOW's it's only active when the template is being inserted in an already generated message body. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Computer Lie #1: You'll never use all that disk space. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc47bPAXeSHuB5k3EQJ+XQCcCqJgxlzg8cZaYy4zZXgFL7UeNJsAn2oJ YpKe7bMxctdhM1t74BZvGFj2 =/EkB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: "Created" in mailheader
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:46:26 -0700, Jan Deppisch wrote: JD> The date shown in the brackets is the "correct" date i think (I've JD> just tested it). But in the message list columns, where the date or JD> time of the email is shown, only the other date/time appears: JD> 09:29 JD> I would like to see the "correct" time (18:29 im my example) there! JD> Is this possible to set up somehow ? No unfortunately there's no way of setting that up. :-) JD> Or am I completely misunderstanding all ? :) No, you aren't. :-) JD> By the way, what's the difference between those date/time stamps ? Is JD> the first one the date/time of the sender's mailserver and the second one JD> the local date/time when the writer created the email ? The first date is the creation date adjusted to your own time zone. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Dumb luck beats sound planning every time. Trust me. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc48JvAXeSHuB5k3EQJ4JACgpWJjyBU4QinQTP7zMhK1AbHLeGkAn0Az vnfXKApXjDiEPhFyOafA2QSC =5/A5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB with dual boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:32:54 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML> If memory serves (I, after all, installed TB for the first time ML> several months ago), TB would ask you for the location where you ML> would like to store your mail. (This happens only to new ML> installation.) If you accept TB's default, it would store your mail ML> under the \MAIL sub-directory under your TB program folder. If you ML> put another location there, TB would store your mail there. If the ML> location exist, TB should find your old mail without trouble. This has not been my experience. The first time I moved my mail directory, I shut down TB!, moved the directories, restarted TB!. Of course the accounts were not there. I recreated the accounts and defined the mail directory in the account properties. Still nothing. I eventually got back the folders using but I lost all my folder templates (I was using folder templates at the time) and all my filters. The other two times I moved my mail folders, I closed TB!, moved the folders, edited the HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot entry values appropriately and only then did I restart TB! to see things working as if nothing had happened. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "SCUD : Sure Could Use Directions " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc4/JPAXeSHuB5k3EQIy/QCfY+WX5BymC6XsmcIqWFd20Te7/hoAn3O0 WJb/8bF73G4T6/2Ayjg8Y2Dm =g8LD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:03:58 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> Curtis thanks for your patient explanation but I must confess I'm JR> still un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Let me put it this way: JR> JR> Here is one of my account "new message" templates. JR> JR> ||--| Begin Template |--|| JR> JR> Hello %TOFNAME JR> JR> %Cursor JR> JR> -- JR> Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR JR> %ISSIGNATURE This doesn't have to be here. It should be in your quick template signature that you wish to replace the above signature with. JR> JR> ||--| End Template |--|| JR> JR> Here is one of my Quick Templates JR> JR> ||--| Begin Quick Template |--|| JR> JR> -- <- you should remove the signature delimiter in this quick JR> template JR> Jan Rifkinson JR> President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc. JR> [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR> Tel 203.431.1691 JR> ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE JR> JR> ||--| End Quick Template |--|| JR> JR> Could you use these templates to illustrate how one interacts with JR> the other? If you create a message with the first of the two templates, in the editor window, apply the quick template by typing . The %ISSIGNATURE macro deletes the first signature and replaces it with the quick template. If you do not remove the signature delimiter as I illustrated above, two signature delimiters will appear after you apply the quick template. JR> I assume my new msg template would come up when I write a new msg JR> from my account [rather than a folder] which might have it's own JR> templates. If the above is a correct understanding then where would JR> I place my cursor to insert the Quick Template example that I've JR> provided. *anywhere* in the message body composition window. :-) JR> Thanks for your continued patience in explaining this issue. It's my pleasure Jan. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Plasma is another matter. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc5tIPAXeSHuB5k3EQIwBQCg0rUXJ74OqU/7NPSSMX8u8ON6E2kAoOAy hoK731NUzRl2AILDzaMR0qcG =odS7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:47:21 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: >>> Allie (Curtis Martin) has written a wonderful section on the use of >>> templates and this has now been added to the FAQ. You can read this >>> new info on http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/templates.html. JA>> This is indeed a very well written discussion. I thought I should JA>> mention that a couple of templates were left out. Don't forget the JA>> Print templates (Account level and folder level, I'm not sure JA>> about address book level). And of course the Save Messages JA>> Templates. MDP> Of course - a very good point or two there! Thanks for pointing these MDP> out. I don't use either myself, which is probably why I didn't pick up MDP> the omission. (excuses, excuses). Same here. I clean forgot myself. I'm already thinking of where and how to make the additions. Thanks for the suggestion Januk. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6HhfAXeSHuB5k3EQJWEACfToFNH09DlVWmiU4hIBH/Y8f1CbEAoMNR SVjQUhiXENnO3E4I7UVAbgFT =5It0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:05:54 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: TB> If, and that's a big IF... Becky is so good and that is your chosen TB> e-mail client which you are quite obviously using, why are you TB> subscribed to a mailing list primarily for users of The Bat e-mail TB> client? In all fairness Tony, I don't think we should make those who are not using TB! unwelcome here. There is no rule to say that you should be using TB! to be subscribed and I don't think there ever will or should be such a rule. TB> You have absolutely no chance of converting a Bat user over to TB> Becky. We've all been there, we've all done that and the only "T" TB> shirt we wanted to buy had The Bat! written all over it. :-) I know what you're trying to say but we should look at these sort of posts in a more positive light. I wouldn't say that he's trying to convert anyone but is instead sharing with us what he thinks are good Becky features. Now I know the 'software salespeople' types do exist and tend to invade other lists to further their agendas but I don't think Andrej has earned such suspicion. TB> Yes, Becky is good... But it 'aint good enough. I tried it myself and don't think so either. TB> Can I, as a subscriber to a discussion list about The Bat e-mail TB> client, call upon the odd moderator or two, to ask that the TB> Bat/Becky comparison be moved onto TBOT or whatever the new Bat TB> versus other e-mail clients list is please. I've been reading the thread and am expecting that it will die a natural death. :-) I haven't felt the urge to intervene because it's not yet become circular and others seem to be interested, especially since there are a lot of subscribers at present who are in a state of flux with their decision making on which client to settle on. A comparison with other clients may therefore be beneficial. TB> If I want to know how good Becky or Eudora or calypso is, I would TB> subscribe to the relevant list. :-) I hear your cry Tony but let's leave it a bit shall we? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Smart Bomb. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6HKvAXeSHuB5k3EQJXfwCcCY8sy0rkhqFy0G7+FBnMdHVuJlYAoLr6 YV3Rpki6CZ4jVUAvM8J2sbdd =g/qh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:01:00 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote:
JR>>> --
JR>>> Jan Reply to: %REPLYADDR
JR>>> %ISSIGNATURE
>> Mistake! Your template is *not* a signature ... it
>> contains one. The last two lines be replaced with one which says
>> %QINCLUDE="JANSIG"
JR> I'm sitll un-clear about the %ISSIGNATURE macro. Where did you *find*
JR> the command "%QINCLUDE"? I couldn't find this anywhere
Yes, it's not listed with the other macros via the template editor
menus.
What %QINCLUDE does is to place the contents of a quick template in
another template.
My TBUDL signature is a quick template with the handle name 'tbudl'
The introductory line to this message to you was also created with a quick
template with handle name 'intro'.
The text that's quoted from your message was done using another quick
template who's handle name is 'quote'.
Now look at my reply template for this list:
- -start template--
%QINCLUDE="intro"
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%QINCLUDE="quote"
- --
%QINCLUDE="tbudl"
%SINGLERE
%TO=""%TO="%OFROMNAME on TB!UDL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
- reply template---
You see? I can insert quick templates with the use of the %QINCLUDE
macro. If I didn't have the QINCLUDE macro to use, this is how my reply
template would appear.
- ---start template---
On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS",
%OFROMNAME wrote:
%CURSOR%QUOTESTYLE="I"%REGEXPQUOTES="(?s)(.*?)(^(-\s)?--(\s)?\n|^(-\s)?---(\s)?\n|\Z)"
- --
A. Curtis Martin..
Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937
PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey
- ---
** "%COOKIE="F:\Program Files\The Bat!\Cookies\cookie.txt" "
Using TB! v%THEBATVERSION «» Win2k Pro SP1
%REPLYTO="A. Curtis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
%FROM="A. Curtis Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
%SIGNCOMPLETE
- ---end template---
See how much more complicated and tedious it would be. Also if I use a
quick template in several locations with the %QINCLUDE macro, editing
the quick template will reflect in all templates I use it.
Have I confused you even more?
>> I have had to assume above that you have given your QT a handle of
>> "JANSIG".
JR>>> ||--| Begin Quick Template |--||
JR>>> --
JR>>> Jan Rifkinson
JR>>> President, Bogart's Daddy, Inc.
JR>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JR>>> Tel 203.431.1691
JR>>> ICQ 41116329 %ISSIGNATURE
>>^^^ Here is where this belongs
JR>>>
JR>>> ||--| End Quick Template |--||
JR> OK, so I've now done this. Now what? Again I must ask where I would
JR> place my cursor to substitute one signature for the other.
Create a new message. Now, place the cursor in the message body area,
anywhere but not adjacent to any other characters and type the handle
name for your signature template above followed by What is supposed to happen?
The old signature disappears and the new one takes it's place.
JR> Everywhere I tried to insert a Quick Template
JR> signature, the original signature ahead of the %ISSIGNATURE was not
JR> replaced, meaning that I then had both signatures in view.
That's because you did not have the %ISSIGNATURE macro in the quick
template signature.
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Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification.
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Re: %ISSIGNATURE explanation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 19:39:15 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> I GOT IT - whopie. Works like a charm. With the two of you JR> double teaming me, it finally sunk in. Thanks so much for your JR> patience. Now aren't these templates just marvelous? Glad to be of help. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The worst day fishing is better than the best day working. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc6UKvAXeSHuB5k3EQJvswCePwX/tzkX5GXh1pFk8GWqs8Ma0LYAoIJB /FQmUZ3etAcCHhAKnv2nOmMN =oEX8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB with dual boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:01:31 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: ACM>> The other two times I moved my mail folders, I closed TB!, moved the ACM>> folders, edited the HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot entry values ACM>> appropriately and only then did I restart TB! to see things working as if ACM>> nothing had happened. TF> While this is a nice workaround, there is an easier way. I jsut moved TF> the mail directory from one of my accounts, and it worked as follows TF> from within TB: TF> 7. If you have a problem with the filters, or the account properties TF> seemed to have disappeared, check whether all the account.* files are TF> where they should be. This is exactly the problem I had when I did it this way in that I lost all my folder settings, templates and filters. Lucky for you, you copied the folder to the new location instead of moved it, a critical difference in method. :-) TF> This wasn't the case, so I had to copy them over from the old TF> directory again, of course copied from another account's directory TF> and didn't understand the world. Don't do that. Copy from the TF> account you have moved. What TB! seems to do when we changed it's working directory path was to create basic config files in the new directory, *overwriting* the ones we had before. This is the reason behind the apparent disappearance of the templates, filters etc. Since you had copied the folder, you could then easily copy back over the config files again solving the problem. I wasn't so lucky. Admittedly it's a good idea, provided the folder is copied and not moved. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Sit up. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc7tWfAXeSHuB5k3EQKZhQCdHn6E8/IzvzZsMeklgXwogIAVXt4AoMNc toROYtgqNgnjp86iAKNHYDm3 =/MJK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Slow changing folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:52:21 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: DL>> Using NTFS here, but it seems that Microsoft's old claims of it being DL>> non-fraggable are untrue :) TF> I never used NT, so I would have to read up on NTFS. "Non-fraggable"? TF> Never heard of it. How is that supposed to work (technically)? Where TF> did they say this? I'll read up and comment. ;-) I posted a reply to TBOT since this has now become off-topic. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Reality is an obstacle to hallucination. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc7uFPAXeSHuB5k3EQKUBQCfSqpRKHBKvCJTZrtkC1SyPX9c2WcAoKi8 cl0w5lpt05q7eYVfdBVtBXof =spq0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Announcement - FAQ addition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:42:58 -0400, Paula Ford wrote: PF> "Other Mentionable Macros" - Would that be as opposed to PF> "unmentionable" macros? No. Not at all. You're sounding like a lawyer. ;-b The English language can be a challenge at times eh?. PF> What happens if the unmentionable ones are mentioned? Sounds scary, PF> especially since I don't know which ones are unmentionable and no PF> one will be able to tell me, as they would have to mention them. ;-) I did. I said in the document, before my 'unmentionable' subtopic that a full list of all macros with a short description of each could be found in the on-line help. Is that enough mentioning? :-) PF> Kidding aside, great job, Allie. Keep it up and TB might soon have a PF> respectable Help. Thanks Paula. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc7vxvAXeSHuB5k3EQKJQACfanmSOl7+vXS0bcwBY4e2VevTMhoAniWE u+YNbeBrThoHyAlgamgKOMRp =jXTy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: attachments panel horizontal?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:37:24 -0400, Marc Weinmann wrote: MW> Didn't find this in the faq.. is there a way to have the attachments MW> "pane" be horizontal, rather than vertical? Another ardent wish by quite a few on this list, ie, an option to do this very thing. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Health is the slowest rate at which one can die. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc73lfAXeSHuB5k3EQLcSACg9SK5tbRqwzEIojnI07TTDrQ8JBoAnjPm LvFFyZPLO/tTLyIuXiJsGlY8 =3tDG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:25:37 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: ACM>> :-) I hear your cry Tony but let's leave it a bit shall we? TB> Well OK. but keep your eye on it won't you . You yourself know how TB> much I like to try other email software but I never raise major TB> debates about them on this list. I always use other outlets or very TB> often personal correspondence for comparison purposes or to get TB> others opinions. TB> Anyway, keep "The Bat Users Discussion List" for Bat users. Thats my TB> personal opinion, not worth much apparently but there you go. Ah, come on Tony. You know that I value your opinion but I cannot simply go along with what you think now can I? I have to consider the list rules, my personal judgement on the situation and also what the other members feel. I do, however feel that you may have indirectly achieved your goal in this instance because a thread-let has started here, which is becoming unprogressive and to the point of bickering. So as moderator, I declare this little side issue closed in the name or peace . an tranquility. :-) This little thread-let may have soured the Becky vs TB! discussion so though I have not put a stop to it, I'm sure that it will die a natural death soon. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Racial prejudice is a pigment of the imagination. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc82FfAXeSHuB5k3EQIamQCdHf/Vs1N8WTXg1QhPks1fvqN9g2IAn0bT adqWcaTDHYbW6qW/xo6/9+vc =W4tB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: wishlist (was Re: Main Window in Bat!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:29:41 +0100, Tony Boom wrote: A>> Dear Mr. Boom! TB> You can call me Tony, everyone else does. I have no intention of TB> this becoming a personal issue. Like yourself stating your reasons TB> for using Becky, I was just stating my reasons why I think they have TB> no place on a Bat Users List. A>> 1. I did not start this thread [TB versus Becky v.2] TB> No, I fully appreciate that, but may I remind you of how you started TB> you last posting. A>> 5. Thank you, guys, for solidarity in oppression... TB> I do think your going over the top a bit there. I had on intention TB> to oppress, depress or insult anyone in any way. Just stating my TB> opinion that a discussion about Becky should be taken to the Off TB> Topic list. Ok, enough already. This is indeed degenerating into bickering. Please, if you (whoever is involved or feel like getting involved) must continue these arguments, do it off-list or on TBOT, please. Thanks. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "There is no vaccine against stupidity. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc83hPAXeSHuB5k3EQJeNgCg5e+kSYdqENyALLzh66EtjeSsJIEAn23E K2he2zQNazlTzksRg/uANUT+ =Xh18 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Using TB with dual boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 03:42:34 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: >> The other two times I moved my mail folders, I closed TB!, moved >> the folders, edited the HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot >> entry values appropriately and only then did I restart TB! to see >> things working as if nothing had happened. ML> I'm not saying this won't work. It should. I'm just saying it ML> shouldn't be necessary. In fact, I've just tried it twice (moving to ML> a new location and back), and each time all I need to change is the ML> "Working Directory" entry. And even that is unnecessary when doing a ML> new installation, for TB would ask for it. At least that's my ML> experience with migrating from Win98 to Win2k. Do you have your account mail folders on an entirely different partition like I do? If you have your account mail folders in the TB! installation directory as it is by default, and then move your TB! installation to another location, then I agree that all you have to do is change the working directory. If, however, you wish to move only your account mail folders leaving the TB! installation as is then you'll have to make changes to the .../Users Depot entry values. Be that as it may, after all this, I do understand you now. ;-) If she has her account mail folders on drive E: from the start, and then install TB! in Win2k, then she'll be asked for a working directory where she can define the path to the mail folders on drive E:, making it unnecessary to make /Users Depot value changes. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "HARDWARE: n. The part you kick. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc86mfAXeSHuB5k3EQIaaQCfRtsxyzjGLcRxlxU9MefHNZcSZ4IAn2Ls ic/Zv4Y6U2Qz9b21BgEsfhG4 =KAiL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail Dispatcher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:34:27 -0500, Mark Worsham wrote: Gary>> Frankly, I was a bit disappointed. Sure, she can use the dispatcher Gary>> to remove messages ONE BY ONE. However, she wanted to select around Gary>> 200 of them in sequence and flag em all for deletion. The Bat Gary>> doesn't support that, its either singularly or all of em. MW> Hmmm... That's not my experience. I can delete as many messages in MW> one run of the Dispatcher as I want to. So how do I go about selecting 25 out of 50 messages for deletion in the mail dispatcher. AFAICT, theres no way of doing this but to select each message one by one for deletion. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Impropriety is the soul of wit. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc+7k/AXeSHuB5k3EQLtKACfe+XpblJO+SvyFQYoI9NXZ7c9gCAAn2Lh f5nPkH8hjaJxuBdwdUCmyugR =gGcX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail Dispatcher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:13:54 -0500, Mark Worsham wrote: MW> Ahhh, so Gary means the actual checking of the little checkbox MW> instead of the actual removal of the messages. MW> True, you can't check more than one checkbox at a time, but that is MW> not unusual for Windows. To me it is a strange setup. If I select multiple messages in a folder's message list, I can right click the selection and apply any of the menu options to all the messages selected. I'd think that for the message dispatcher, you'd be able to select multiple messages, as you would, messages in the folder list view and then apply flags as needed in the same way that flags may be applied globally. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Warning: Politicians can be hazardous to your wealth. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOc/U9PAXeSHuB5k3EQLbzACfcTdeg7fpo0uuGMwSK14zDCkENVYAoKr+ OnhcA1GcV3fhSPHiXaWXmF1b =Nauo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail Dispatcher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 04:05:23 +0200, Avenarius wrote: A> As a dial-up user, so far I've found no use whatsoever for the Mail A> Dispatcher... Although the gadget seems to have been *invented* for A> people who'd like to save unnecessary download times... I'm a dialup user and ... Personally I use it to examine all messages exceeding 150KB, prior to download. I first configure my account properties to leave messages on the server for one day. I then set the message download size limit to 150KB. Whenever a message exceeding the size limit reaches my mailbox on the server TB! gives me a notice with the headers attached. If I wish to retrieve the message, I then use the mail dispatcher to do this. If I wish not to, I either ignore it where it's eventually deleted after a day or if the message is larger than 1MB, I use the dispatcher to delete it manually from the server. I only have 5MB of server space for mail you see. To prevent having to weed through hundreds of already downloaded messages to do this sort of thing, I have set up all my discussion list mail filters as well as my spam filter to delete received messages from the server. What the filter actually does is to mark the filtered messages for deletion which is done at the next mail check. I therefore only have my last 24hrs worth of personal mail to look through (30-50 messages at a time as opposed to 400 at a time). Pretty painless at that point. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "People will die this year that never died before " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdBK1vAXeSHuB5k3EQL9BgCeJ3sWeiml7bUpy6vc2N7au6iJKvcAoJsK sVGwJz0OZC0DDHZ33kpf2aqn =ws/4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: dealing with digests - yet another question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:20:09 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA> All that said, I should reiterate, I agree that this is not a big JA> bug. It is simply a nuisance item. And not even a big one at that. I have to interject here that it can indeed be a nuisance at times. Just yesterday while helping Jan with figuring out the %ISSIGNATURE macro, he posted a message containing two sample template signatures. The first contained a signature delimiter. Of course when I hit reply, the quoted text ended at the point of the signature delimiter in the sample template. F4 didn't allow me to select anything beyond that point either. What I had to do was to manually copy and paste the text. This is the very same problem that will occur with digests. What you'd have to do JM, is to manually copy and paste the desired text block in your reply message. Paste using the 'paste as quote' option. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Best file compression around: DEL *.* - 100% compression. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdBQMfAXeSHuB5k3EQKwuwCglC9DH7f/9tRxvUGJJeFqyrGHY+cAoIwS X/T7PJgCgLeiM6lV21m3R5R5 =eYEI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange problem: view folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:56:51 -0400, Havivah D. Schwartz wrote: HDS> In View Folder, I sometimes find that all of a sudden a bunch of HDS> the buttons and menu commands gray out. That is, all the buttons & HDS> commands will be available at first, and then all of a sudden they HDS> aren't. I can't figure out how to activate them again short of HDS> closing the folder and reopening it. I must be triggering this by HDS> hitting some key combination accidentally, but for the life of me, HDS> I can't figure out what! I've never personally experienced this bizarre behaviour and I don't know why you are experiencing it. :-/ - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdF3HvAXeSHuB5k3EQI4EQCfWbRbP34uVPlVYcpAdoO/bCF6RaoAoKZm IA4ha9ygDwelfDbtuP+67Ey9 =UHpE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Colours for name of accounts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:40:04 -0400, Cameleon wrote: C> Is there a way to change colours of name of accounts, in the Accounts C> frame ? No, not that I know of. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Conformity obstructs progress. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdF3dPAXeSHuB5k3EQKnaQCgq11tkXJ2bZj89c/E8Q2y9QLonoUAoKid ycD7dU7K5Dp7+bGGOuK4gYTK =uQ3v -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Thread questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:24:14 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> First thing is, Curits (and others) reported before that two TF> messages get replied to when you hit "replY on a message. This TF> happens when a new message comes in whicle you're reading, and two TF> messages are highlighted. TF> I couldn't confirm it at that time, but now can: it happens only TF> when you are in thread mode! (Maybe this info helps Rit to find the TF> bug.) I didn't realize this was so since I use threaded mode pretty heavily. I wouldn't be surprised if it only happened in the view by references threaded mode as well. TF> Second, the way I use the threading is as follows: TF> I still go through the message list sequentially, osrted by received TF> time. I browse the new messages in the View Folder mode, not the TF> ticker, which I only use when I have a few messages acorss not too TF> many folders. TF> When I see a message that I would like to reply to, I hit Alt-1 TF> follow the thread, reply if it still makes sense, go back to the first TF> message in the thread, and hit Alt-0 to go back to sequential reading. I've been tempted to adopt this very method because of problems with threading by references. I already switch off threading when re-filtering my TB! folders messages by age to an archive folder to prevent this 'grid index out of range' error. TF> Suddenly the View Folder window has a column for Folder which I never TF> put there! I have to right-click and take this column out manually, TF> each time. Is this normal? Now this one I've never seen. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Shotgun wedding: a case of wife or death. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdF5cPAXeSHuB5k3EQLqoACgrGPp8qBbyIb99vSj7UuEIDwPSVMAnjRV gb28xieG9L3ZGDUiUekQxhRK =6IDj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: quoting "subject" & "timestamp"
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:27:52 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote:
JR> I've not noticed a way to set up a template that includes a place
JR> for "original subject". Is this so &, if so, is there a work around?
I'm not quite sure exactly what you're asking but the macro to generate
the original subject is %OSUBJ.
JR> Also I've tried to build a template that you may have seen that
JR> includes a time stamp of the original post but I find that this is
JR> not always accurate. Maybe this is because of the different time
JR> zones. In your opinion, what is the cleanest way to include a time
JR> stamp in a template, i.e. based on what?
TB! tends to convert the message time stamps to your local time zone and
uses these times in the templates. As a result of this, if you use the
provided macros for original message time, you'll get the original
message time adjusted to your local time zone. The time is technically
still correct but, I know, you prefer if the senders time zone was used.
Well, if you wish to do this, you need to use a regular expression to
extract the original time and here it is.
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"%SUBPATT="3"%SUBPATT="4"
Create a new quick template, then copy and paste the above macro *as is*
in it. I gave my quick template the handle name 'odate'. This new quick
template will generate the original message time by extracting it from
the RFC headers.
If I wish to do this, I just type 'odate' at the time
when I wish to insert the date. For example, the otime for this message
to which I'm replying is 11:27:52 -0400. :-)
If you wish to put the original time above in a template, at the point
you wish to insert the time use the macro: %QINCLUDE="odate".
JR> And, finally, is it sufficient to set a filter to recognize
JR> "kludges" & then enter a real word or do you also have to turn on
JR> the option for "regular expressions"?
No, you don't have to turn on the regular expressions option.
JR> If not, when is this option used? Many thanks.
You use the regular expressions option when you wish to use a regular
expression as the filter search string. With the option off, simple
search strings are used instead.
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Re: Replied filter moves messages unexpectedly
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:09:08 -0400, Havivah D. Schwartz wrote: HDS> One more question :) I'm having trouble with my replied filters. I HDS> want to mark all messages I have replied to within a given folder HDS> with a color group. Here's what I set up for TBUDL: HDS> Replied Messages HDS> Source Folder: Subscriptions/TBUDL HDS> Move to: Subscriptions/TBUDL HDS> String Location Present HDS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] kludges yes HDS> checked action: mark with color group ... This should be OK. HDS> That's it. Now here's what happens: I run the filter by refiltering HDS> the TBUDL folder manually (right-click folder, select Re-Filter). HDS> The targeted messages get colored appropriately, but strangely HDS> enough they get moved to the inbox!! I've deleted the filter and HDS> tried again, to no effect. What I don't understand is why the HDS> actions seem to work correctly (I can park, color, etc. with no HDS> problem) but the messages are getting redirected unexpectedly. There is another filter that is moving the messages. You need to check a number of things: - Do you have other replied filters defined in the replied filters group. If so, another filter may be acting on the messages if you have enabled 'continue processing with other filters' in your filter rules. - Whenever you wish to re-filter messages and select the re-filter messages option, ensure that only the filter group that you wish to apply is checked. For instance, whenever I wish to apply read message filters manually, I have to untick the inbox filter set. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Useless Invention: AC adapter for solar calculators. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGCAfAXeSHuB5k3EQIoeQCfasm4g2Msr4gOWXPfpeYdOOmL3VwAnRbx 2Kd4uegk3ZEqjhqwxmW7tby9 =dBbM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Memo's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:24:47 +0200, Avenarius wrote: A> For instance, if I intend to reply to a message tomorrow, but want to A> jot down, right now, the two or three points I want to make in that A> reply, then I don't need to hit the reply button -- all I need is to A> jot down the two or three catchwords in the memo that can be attached A> to the original message I received. A> I find the Memo function (CTRL+SHIFT+I) extremely useful. I do as well. :-) A> However, it's buggy. Every other day, it's disfunctional on my A> system; the buttons in the memo window are grayed out. The memo doesn't work properly via the view folder windows in that you are unable to create new memos or edit created memos. Memos will only work properly when the message preview pane is enabled and the memo editor invoked via the main windows message listing. This is an old and persistent problem. This and other past view folder window bugs (another is with address autoview) makes me realize that the developers seem to prefer using the preview window exclusively. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Procrastination: The art of keeping up with yesterday. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGDYfAXeSHuB5k3EQIE1ACeMgcZLrrKVRjNGPazsI5hZkzI6Z4AoIBm YjLtBQdg0Ijmr/EqwFP4U9HH =kwyg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %quotes macro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:09:53 -0700, Clearwater Landscapes wrote: CL> I have a questionnaire that potential clients submit (form to CL> email), and a template set up with pertinent information to reply to CL> them...I personalize with their name (i.e. Hi Joe,). A small CL> percentage of these responses require quoting part of their message. CL> If I use the %quotes macro in the template, it quotes the entire CL> message in the responses which I don't select for quoting. How can I CL> set this up to use the macro only when necessary.? If this is an auto-reply setup, then there's no way of automatically selecting a special portion of text for quoting. If you're manually replying using a template, then you may still use the %quotes macro. However, when replying with the desire to quote only a special text block, select the block of text you wish to quote and either hit F4 or hold down the key while hitting the reply button. If you wish to generate a reply template without anything quoted then reply by hitting . Hope that helps. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Individualists of the world, UNITE! " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGGrvAXeSHuB5k3EQICTACgnmr33r4HyGgzTl4CS5y1F/clwToAoLmK j1ZMSsDT9ledZSJBgvwhQr2k =zMzn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lost Folders (was: Re: "HELP!!...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:34:50 +0200, Avenarius wrote: A> Oh yeah. For instance: I've never used a regular Bat! version. I A> downloaded a beta directly and then kept wondering why I had no help A> file present on my system. I still don't have it, because how *could* A> I possibly obtain it, without first uninstalling my current beta A> version (which I like and don't want to uninstall)? Since installing TB! in March 99, I have not uninstalled it and I have installed most of the betas and all of the full releases. Just install the full release version over the beta. Only the relevant files will be updated. Problems tend to arise when some users install and older version over a newer version. If the older version doesn't support some of the newer file formats then problems will arise of course. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "My keyboard has an F1 key. Where is the NASCAR key? " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGKcPAXeSHuB5k3EQIqigCgtTfNfuQVuaN5mGhA6c//J1r5KZ0AniIS 0b3OkTYkGk6883Pgld7gBHt/ =D5yv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: About PGP certificates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:29 +0800, Ameng wrote: A> - The editor uses something called 'free caret', which basically A> means that when you move your cursor down from a text line to an A> empty line, it keeps it position on the horizontal axis. In other A> words, it doesn't move to the beginning of the empty line but stays A> somewhere in the middle. Took me quite some time to get used to it, A> but now I hardly notice anymore. (This 'feature' will probably become :- Was that put in just for the Eudora fans? ;-b You seemed so upset with it initially. Your little synopsis was very good. The main features for me that makes it stand out are: 1) It's method of handling multiple accounts. 2) Templates 3) Templates 4) Templates 5) It's advanced filtering. 6) It's editor in terms of the methodology and the thinking behind it. How it actually works can be a bit quirky and needs some acclimatization. :-) If one were to rip out the template support in TB!, I could easily be using PMMail or Pegasus at present. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I am functioning within established parameters. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGNuPAXeSHuB5k3EQLWMwCdGTeZoHL8QI9BTfOv89aJcV1CqEEAniwl Nmb8PyP9SsnUZb+0dBOYoeUs =/ohi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cnet.com downloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:06:16 +0200, Karin Spaink wrote: K> - The editor uses something called 'free caret', which basically K> means that when you move your cursor down from a text line to an K> empty line, it keeps it position on the horizontal axis. In other K> words, it doesn't move to the beginning of the empty line but stays K> somewhere in the middle. Took me quite some time to get used to it, K> but now I hardly notice anymore. (This 'feature' will probably become :- Was that put in just for the Eudora fans? ;-b You seemed so upset with it initially. Your little synopsis was very good. The main features for me that makes it stand out are: 1) It's method of handling multiple accounts. 2) Templates 3) Templates 4) Templates 5) It's advanced filtering. 6) It's editor in terms of the methodology and the thinking behind it. How it actually works can be a bit quirky and needs some acclimatization. :-) If one were to rip out the template support in TB!, I could easily be using PMMail or Pegasus at present. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGOJ/AXeSHuB5k3EQJxiQCfYt2krzwsyeJThTmd1J+lt+ef6qsAmwUF h3sNdMQ2SGR4yCy6WGZwMplS =fh1k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: About PGP certificates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:03:36 -0500, A . Curtis Martin wrote: A>> - The editor uses something called 'free caret', which basically A>> means that when you move your cursor down from a text line to an A>> empty line, it keeps it position on the horizontal axis. In other A>> words, it doesn't move to the beginning of the empty line but stays A>> somewhere in the middle. Took me quite some time to get used to it, A>> but now I hardly notice anymore. (This 'feature' will probably become ACM> ACM>:- Was that put in just for the Eudora fans? ;-b You seemed so ACM>upset with it initially. Please ignore. Sorry about the inappropriate message. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGPbPAXeSHuB5k3EQI4qACg38ujVQJVT/RfLApco1fZzKzbgrgAoOat oICIArQc3BXwxjy4y5dGlk0p =gKar -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Memo's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:32:28 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> Is there a way to set TB! to show the memo whenever the message that NA> has the memo, is viewed in the preview pane? I have View/Memo NA> Auto-View checked, but it doesn't seem to make any difference with NA> respect to the memo... once written, I have no access to it. :o( Hmmm. For me, once the message is *open*, and there is an associated memo, the memo-autoview window will display it. This is so whether the message is open via the preview window or via folder view. *However*, if I wish to edit a memo or add one to a message, I can only do so if the message is open via the preview window. It bugs me that I can do more to messages when they are open via the preview window than when open in folder view. After-all, it's supposed to be just a preview window. From the way it functions, it really aught to be called the main message view window because the message is clearly *opened* when being viewed via the preview window. I can edit memo's only when messages are open via the preview window. The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. This goes against what is intuitively expected in the context of what a preview window is supposed to represent metaphorically. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The best defense is to stay out of range. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGduvAXeSHuB5k3EQIJpQCggW0+TACsfVKCTQUHP4ZYPulso3EAn3BQ TXIM6r8H5NfFzl8P+69dO1h3 =UZi4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cnet.com downloads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:48:47 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: >> Karin, that was a fine The Bat! synopsis you wrote. As to the >> disadvantages you listed, though, one has to be added: the >> non-stickiness of main window frames. NA> I've never known that to be a problem with TB!, so it may be NA> something peculiar to your installation. Why don't you try 1.46d NA> instead of the Beta? However, I never ran into the problem you refer NA> to even when I was using the Betas. Ok Nick. :-) Adjust the preview window thickness in your main window. Now hit SHIFT-CTRL-E to close the preview window. Now reopen the preview window. Isn't it back to it's default thickness? Next test: I assume that you have adjusted the thickness of the folder tree to your own liking. If not, adjust it to be thicker or thinner than the default. Now change to another window frame split mode and switch back to the one you were using. Again, you have lost the settings you were using. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Graduate Of The Uncle Fester & Keith Moon School of hair styling " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdGgSvAXeSHuB5k3EQI2VACfbhWR8+u9pUUs8GFM/r/usK51YWsAnij2 gr4aGHVwIZvdJp4Nj+3NluEP =gTL7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cursor postion (&) Netorking settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:47:33 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TW>> I already have the 100 messages in my TBUDL-folder. While I am reading TW>> for example the 60th message a new message arrives and is sorted in as TW>> 10th message. TF> How do you sort them then? I sort them by received time. TF> Since you trash them after reading them, I think this would make TF> sense for you too. Would it? He threads his messages. I understand what he's saying. Take Gravity for instance, you can have it check the newservers at user-defined periodic intervals, *but*, it also has an online/offline button right there on the toolbar. Toggle it off, and it will stop doing the periodic checks, even though you're still connected to the internet. I agree that this would be a useful feature. There are times when I'm downloading a file and TB! attempts to access the mail server. It has the dickens of a time trying to connect and also slows down my download speed. When I used to use X-Ray, these attempts would at times end with X-Ray crashing. I have to prevent periodic checking to prevent this. I'd prefer to just be able to hit an easily accessible switch. Right now, what I do is to disable the periodic checking option in the account options when I wish to. This method would of course annoy those that need to do this 10 times per day. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Predicting the future of technology is fraud with peril! " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdIu5fAXeSHuB5k3EQJP3wCgqJ+QYwnzIkVlfnqhqMR1D0/UInMAoLvv gOxMVVFL7bnfijoznQJtK5k9 =bpcJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cursor postion (&) Netorking settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:30:07 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: OZ>> Why? Why to make user to push buttons if TB! could check for OZ>> connection to exist prior to check mail? CTc> I've a feeling I may be doing something wrong here, so please bear CTc> with me on this one. What happens to you (and other TB users) when CTc> you run TB while off-line? For me TB will repeatedly attempt to CTc> establish a dial-up connection. This happens no matter how I set up CTc> properties for any my accounts. I have heard that this may be a CTc> bug!? Actually, you *can* prevent it from checking while you're offline. Do the following: i) Go to Options -> Network Administration ii) Enable 'dial-up network connection'. iii) Enable 'no automatic dial for periodic checking'. iv) Enable 'Use existing Dial-up connection (if any)'. If you have LAN or Manual connection enabled, then TB! will not be able to discern whether or not a connection is available or not for mail checking. It will just keep checking. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdJJ+/AXeSHuB5k3EQJ3DQCeKm5TaFkoYOn+wJ5WXYFdf2NfxpwAoP0K XTcfULSm4UY7JyEYL8mkoCWt =vEXm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address Book Help !!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:36:44 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> I just realised that my Address Book got wiped out. I think it happened NA> when I installed 1.46d over top of 1.46 Beta 5 late last week. I did NA> however have a back-up copy with a *.abd extension. NA> My problem is, where do I put the file. What folder? Putting my *.abd file NA> in TB!'s main folder, or mail folder, has no effect... no addresses other NA> than the default addresses show. Place it in your install folders sub-folder called 'Mail', ie, x:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail NA> How do I install my back-up Address Book? Secondly, why didn't the NA> install of 1.46d recognize an existing Address Book and leave well NA> enough alone? I had no problems with it personally. :-/ My address book is pretty much intact here. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I will defend to your death my right to my opinion. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdJLQvAXeSHuB5k3EQILxACcC4cuweyzz7hMJDJeBko4qUadaCsAnRY7 J1UZNIQXILIBMseXmvqTYZLX =Z9CL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cursor postion (&) Netorking settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:57:31 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> i) Go to Options ->> Network Administration ACM>> ii) Enable 'dial-up network connection'. ACM>> iii) Enable 'no automatic dial for periodic checking'. ACM>> iv) Enable 'Use existing Dial-up connection (if any)'. TF> This is correct, but only half of the truth. ;-) TF> The other half is: You have to disable "Use specific Netowrk..." under TF> Account / Properties / Network for each of the accounts. Any TF> "specific" settings combined with periodical check will ignore the "no TF> auto dial" instruction. Yes, this is true. ACM>> If you have LAN or Manual connection enabled, then TB! will not be able ACM>> to discern whether or not a connection is available or not for mail ACM>> checking. It will just keep checking. TF> This is not correct. I have "manual" connection enabled at home, and TF> TB (with the settings above) will indeed know whther a connection is TF> available. It will only check mail when I am on-line. That's the whole TF> point of this setting. Funny that this was the very setting that was making TB! annoyingly check for mail whether or not I was connected. I had to switch to a modem connection to prevent this. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The wise open their minds, but a fool opens his mouth. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdKpCvAXeSHuB5k3EQJ4IgCgrAZYZsltuWin6+3W5hYOlW6Sr8MAoO/K hezXSJoMNdk4Ap0bBSKqCdvR =kMOL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Lost Folders (was: Re: "HELP!!...)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:09:03 -0400, Arnie wrote: A> What is "winRAR"? I've never heard of it before. I use it instead of WinZip. Take a look at: http://www.rarsoft.com/ - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "I will defend to your death my right to my opinion. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdOzIfAXeSHuB5k3EQL0tQCg4fGYZ5Ckc+ypDwan2nqk+1DbNysAoMLE 1TgfqpSu/W6013vxZzZ3RFGr =7mwQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:35:21 +0200, Kevin Halford wrote: KH> Naive question from a new Batter: where do we get the updates from? KH> I've just bought 1.46c and see there's already a 146d out. Do the KH> demo versions install on top? Yes. You can install v1.46d over 1.46c. There's no need to uninstall first. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Runtime Error 6D at 417A:32CF: Incompetent User. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdO63PAXeSHuB5k3EQKuiQCg4HMprR0aS2iXPPrmXgAGaY+35zAAn0zO 7vDAbcnAw2OjSF+WyQLLO56f =hdO9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Regex?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:44:51 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: A>> After Peter was kind enough to come up with a regex that's going to A>> simplify my life considerably, I decided to finally crack open a A>> book previously recommended on this list. After 20 pages I feel my A>> understanding of RE's has increased considerably. It's a very A>> powerful concept. The book is "Mastering Regular Expressions" by A>> Jeffrey Friedl (O'Reilly). It costs US $34.95 and is turning out to A>> be worth twice the price. CTc> My use of regexp has thus far been limited to that used in Gravity. CTc> I believe format does vary depending on the platform being used. CTc> Are the contents of the book relevant to TB's form of regexp, or is CTc> it more of a Perl programers book? It focus' a lot on Pearl but mentions other scripting languages and how regex's differ between them. What it offers is a solid foundation and understanding of regex's. TB!'s help will then fill in the concerns with what metacharacters etc. are supported. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Happiness is a warm puppy, said the anaconda. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdPMF/AXeSHuB5k3EQLtUQCgzFn0sfrSGjc+v2aDkXiKwia+nysAn10X LqlaIZKsjOpFX86PpDejZadr =3ZJ0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Selective Download
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:49:43 +0100, Paul White wrote: PW> I need some help with Kill filters, now called Selective Download. PW> This feature doesn't seem to work for me so I'm probably doing PW> something very silly. The Help pages and FAQ are somewhat vague and a PW> little out-of-date. PW> I'm trying to kill all mail with the Subject *Test* or *Subscribe* so PW> I'm adding signal strings such as: PW> String: [Test], Location: [Subject], Presence: [Yes] May I suggest doing the following: a) Enable 'subject' in the 'Detected By' section. b) In the 'Signal Strings' section enter Test and Subscribe in separate lines. c) Make sure the Active option is enabled. d) Go to the advanced tab and enable "Action" . Kill. Also 'Detection method' .. 'any string match'. This should do it. I tested it and it works. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Borrow money from pessimists--they don't expect it back. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdPOOfAXeSHuB5k3EQIMbgCggUmuhqs6/ue+wpLQN/LbrzrHjGUAn2wY Wjb43DsOMD3jSo9UOrsarvfa =kfJL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cursor postion (&) Netorking settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:06:19 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> Double-checked. I was wrong. Under Options / Network&Admin, I have DUN TF> Connection checked, not manual. TF> Auto-disconn: checked. TF> No auto dial: checked. TF> Use existing: checked. <- this is why TB does not dial when I am TF>connected manually. When I websurf, TB will TF>automtically check every 10 minutes, and if TF>I hit ALT-F2, will check additionally, but TF>will not *attempt* to dail. TF> Pause between: 60 seconds. TF> Max retries: 10 TF> This machine is: Workstation with TCP/IP. <- do you have the same TF>setting here? TF> Allow local is _not_ checked. This is exactly how I have mine setup. I don't use any account specific network settings either, so I don't have problems with unwanted mail checks when not connected. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Believe your beliefs and doubt your doubts. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdXaOfAXeSHuB5k3EQKBdQCdFzi4poaLW3hwMSO7onNdHYDF7yUAniIS 7A41e75CoT3ZCKz+DmgUAwaf =QlrM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2] Re[2] Inbound TCP Communication
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 05:49:05 -0700, ClueBusDriver wrote: C> There's another free one called Zonealarm. I used it for awhile and C> it was ok until I installed an SP on my win2k machine. The C> Zonealarm/Service Pack1 combo were incompatable and cost me several C> hours of work resolving an inbound packet issue. There's a patch available for download at Zonelabs which fixes the Win2k SP1 problem. Interestingly, not only does it fix the SP1 problem, but it also fixes the problem that existed with TB! when ZoneAlarm was run with high security settings where one had to be restarting TB! for each server connection attempt. ZoneAlarm Pro which was released after Win2k's SP1 does not have a problem with Win2k with SP1 installed and it also works perfectly with TB!. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Shooting blanks. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdczjfAXeSHuB5k3EQLT+gCfV7iHMzWJv4Hdv4JF2bbxwCqMsPcAn2qJ SSi38uYEVif5y4EeZigY2Dp5 =f/ha -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Problem in setting copy to: folder (in other account) in Sorting Office
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:18:49 +0200, JMReichow wrote: J> I am having problems to set the following | Action(s) | in the J> Sorting Office / Filters menu: J> [checkbox] Create a copy of message in another folder J> Can anyone confirm that selecting a destination folder by using the J> Browsing [tree-symbol] button does NOT work? J> I have noticed this is only a problem when creating copies from one J> _account_ into a folder on another one. J> Give it a try, please. OK, I tried it. When I select a folder in another account and hit OK, the destination folder selection field remains blank. However, the selection has been successfully made though there's no visual confirmation of this unless you refresh the field. Go to another filter rule and then come back. You'll now see the destination field appropriately filled in. The failure of the field to be visually filled immediately, without having to do a refresh seems to be a bug, yes. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Why doesn't DOS ever say Excellent command or filename! " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOddI5/AXeSHuB5k3EQJTDQCgtLD48BYiqkoRfChV8EiZNd22CtwAoOfN 41lgtiQJpkiS2eawUa3fEJGz =360W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: changing colour of folders in The Bat?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:41:30 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> Jason, can you send me a copy of that Glyph file? I have no NA> experience with editing graphics, but I would like to try and NA> experiment with them. What I am after, is changing only a few of the NA> existing icons. It's interesting how this glyph support came about. When I had just subscribed to the list, there was a discussion on the awful appearance of the interface icons. Of course, as with most opinions as this, it didn't have a 100% following. :-) The very good point was made that it would be great if TB! could support icon customization as Opera did, with one being able to create their own icon sets etc. Well TB! did just that and released the present icon set (it's earliest version) as a glyph.bmp file. Simply place the file in the installation directory and the icon images within the bmp file would be preferentially used. Since the release of these better icon images, there has been a relative silence on the issue except for Tony's modifications to one of the glyph files. I'm summarising this in case there are icon artists who're using TB! and would be interested in creating new icon images as with Opera. I'm pretty sure there weren't any previously but the TB! user-base has increased quite markedly to date. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Second star to the right & straight on till morning... " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdhl9fAXeSHuB5k3EQJYBgCcDMIiHLc7HmECkWf0G1wRuzgneqQAnAyR vcSo4BkOEKtzW1l1Yr31wXzR =Z1cu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: glyphs documentation request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:50:12 -0700, Jason Thompson wrote: JT> The recent posts on TB glyphs have gotten me interested in coming up JT> with some glyphs of my own. JT> I'm finding TB's behavior in using glyphs to be a bit odd. (ie. JT> logically each icon occupies a 28x28 pixel space, yet TB chops out JT> the outermost 2 pixels on each side, and how transparency is figured JT> I'm not really sure) I should have read on before writing one of my earlier messages. AFAIK, no-one on this list except Tony has created/modified any glyph files. I suggest forwarding your query to Ritlabs support. I'll make some enquires myself and get back to you when I've struck gold. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "A friend: someone who likes you even after they know you. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for message and sender verification. iQA/AwUBOdhqpfAXeSHuB5k3EQI30wCgx9lP3O5R2hjnmnFGECkH3+orBmAAn2lx 71njuAHrSCa41gvePtfLuZBz =bX2d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: privacy & encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:17:14 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: CTc>I've downloaded the PGP Plugin DLL 98k file (v5.5, v6.0 & v.6.5) CTc>After unzipping it appears to be batpgp55.dll, when I believe I should CTc>be installing batpgp60.dll. CTc>Also never having had the occasion to install .dlls before I could CTc>do with some pointers. Any help greatly appreciated Graham. Unzip the DLL's into your TB! installation directory. Close and restart TB!. You may then go to the Tools | Privacy | Choose PGP Version menu item. Select the appropriate version and you should then have things working fine. This will be evidenced by new Privacy menu items appearing, ie, PGP Preferences and PGY Key Manager. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Eat Healthy, Exercise, and Die Anyway ... " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBOdunF6gqYelcVHdRAQEaMwf+MoOkBN+nAdDxdu1DTvCqNZNIfKx7Sxqe 7ql5JS9A4QXch0Qabjqo2+EOLalLADuFXFxhApicx8SSPt8XpeDLkfZsubJLY0JX 8KrZVjXrUGdoENozAHilcP5wzlGkXSf+sbZkXqaWUfacwBOW4uRTE6Cnm1mtLM1W //RGig9pnUL4juKn+AOWI1EcTquJqGcEc7EqV/oQsav98TZCcHcomYrnwWmEOzmb vBrrxs7DDreqeXwrtkPP7rFyvFy2cW1Froft63dz7NZEorNYfmu+tFAPT/5dg5Oe Z7P6BYPU4pjnKSwqyEmoMFpwjT3qEew1wJprPpvTM17XDMPsdRJPow== =+OcT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Tricky urls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:53:29 +0200, Luca wrote: L> It seems TB doesn't pass this url to the browser properly, breaking L> it into three parts because of the square brackets. Speaking of L> Agent, that reminds me of a nice feature, by which you can specify L> patterns to have these urls correctly handled. Is there something L> similar in TB? No there isn't. TB! will only open URL's with your system default browser. will open the URL in a new window while a simple will use an existing browser window. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished! " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBOduzQqgqYelcVHdRAQHbHAf+J4/awHl4ShtEtyHXmoycNo2uwN8DM5tt +7gT6ZWJ49hdFpJN7FZCM7D9hnDkeYuixSsi1VOblWFPaF5w3MooDtFC5PoJDXhb 2qwP2S0MDsqmTgf8wnxgvHumxFKYSnNthhqW5l+t3XaDdKHAXpuM6UkEegdlOCEs tLmX0p0YmtTsDFnLcaGykKf2zmPSp/KbzRv9Po2wuePex0nR2xxrzBgcTOx29Vqo koCRxZRZHSbFEZOXkKkgUtCdYqGLK/4u6MRwLIaMvqTLcWrV8mXlj3d4vbL1vTeI SRSm328tibvPG1MKe16cmzAE/kOkpi4HfWZGtPSiTQSaikljsAJVMg== =5ZUw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:51:47 +0200, Luca wrote: L> When this will hopefully be possible, what is supposed to happen when L> I write a message? I mean, will I see my favourite editor working L> within a TB window, with TB's menus, toolbar and all, or will it open L> as a stand alone window? It depends. They may chose to support another editor as plugin, where it will indeed be integrated as a part of TB. An example of this is Becky's own editor which was written by an external party. However, if TB! will support you using any editor of your choice ity will only provide convenient hooks to fire up your editor and paste the template output in it etc. After editing, you close your editor, at which point TB! will copy the text from the temp txt file created and send it. In such a situation, you'll be using your own editor with it's own interface, *separate* from TB!. PMMail offers external editor support. Perhaps you can try it to see what I'm referring to. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean? " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBOduxcqgqYelcVHdRAQGcDQf/dnt2bDjhFwgwEDP9tgF3la13WwMB9hld q7NG2lRzHRxK3/ifFLu657A+dyvQTaNA5LznZZQ4+9DcRd6FcqjiVHU9aus33dzq jzix+8VRZmZLZ3v8aKLpQ5/AOoTDE45YDAaU35T4P1iJIwLGglOQD/1kywuEvhjg xZ8/RR6VgHraKj+/fo4L898pm0a+tn3/lyvRFEhmut73lECJPvJ6AUjAlKiaOu+z BrrMEo130F75yNTb9kWYlpw+DuwVb8XvWkwpW20/T6WALeo9BbyWUSoBhpTjGv9e RTcS8dfLLaXcM15qgvm6ME/j8YgSTCZRThwquu/Ax/PtlOkCaotMwQ== =aZq7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: privacy & encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:18:51 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: CTc> Ok done that, and still nothing! I've checked to confirm that the CTc> batpgp60.dll is in the same directory as TB! You should be using batpgp65.dll and not batpgp60.dll. Make sure that batpgp65.dll is in the TB! installation directory. You can forget the others as I've done. ACM>> You may then go to the Tools | Privacy | Choose PGP Version menu item. CTc> Yep, no problem there. ACM>> Select the appropriate version and you should then have things working ACM>> fine. This will be evidenced by new Privacy menu items appearing, ie, ACM>> PGP Preferences and PGY Key Manager. CTc> The menu items are listed all right. Privacy-> PGP-> shows up six CTc> options; Sign Block, Sign Entire Text etc. but selecting them CTc> does nothing! I'm not speaking of that menu. In the main window, go to Tools -> Privacy and look at the Privacy submenu. If the plug-in is working then new items should be present and these are 'PGP key Manager', 'PGP Preferences' and 'Import PGP Key'. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "One man's constant is another man's variable. - Perlis " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBOdu0oqgqYelcVHdRAQFk+QgAiX+vCKRFijoaCJnl8/tHsosvjGks+0Tz CUO5F9S4vuXGLiOzeTQmPrC2MY+h3l0YAoCOhRvJlN/tzK/O5/co3CVDDErCrDcp FcnIVdYIr0iFzoJkIcdBF7I7PGStca5/eEzkq09s+6GErVAJMhojZYtG+IE4/JFI bu3pH5kz89PRJ7/4fh1UgLDFpePXIxVAiBcGZDnbHzdGjx+VX5situKV4dA01yvM M+0UtV7hDEWD9vrFmImTyF6q93oIpnNtwIWpzdFdrofZQ2gin/+zMTF7gL7ycB+v 2QZmSYuO/KmQxwAHcp8Ntw35bRyH3fCbmjEuUj12aKrZhAW+vFHK3Q== =68mu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bat nearly done in after disk defragmentation
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:45:23 -0500, David R. Austen wrote: DRA> The Bat worked just fine for months, until I defragmented my hard drive DRA> yesterday. Can anybody shed some light on this? DRA> This message was displayed this morning: DRA> "Exception Eaddress violation in module THEBAT.EXE at 0018F5B7. DRA> Access violation at address 005907FB. Read of address . " WOW!! My condolences. :-) DRA> I attempted a reinstall and then a (new) install in a different directory DRA> and finally I think I have it working, but I am not yet able to get access DRA> to my existing mail folders and messages. (Fortunately, I have been DRA> carefully backing them up.) Two things. In your new installation, recreate the accounts and then in the account properties, edit the mail directory path to reflect where your mail folder is. If it says default, you could just move your mail folders over to the default location which is x:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\ . After doing that do a if needed. You should also check the registry entries for TB!, looking at the values for the various working directories. Make sure that the new installations directory paths are present. Look under HKEY CURRENT USER/Software/RIT/The Bat! -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "There is no vaccine against stupidity. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: External editor (was OT: Regular Expressions)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:36:47 +0200, Luca wrote: >> PMMail offers external editor support. L> Since when? I'm surprised, I gave up with Pegasus about two years ago L> when, among the other things, lots of people were asking loud for L> external editor support but the author, according to two of his beta L> testers, would have never abandoned the (disas)TER editor (their L> joke, not mine :-) I meant PMMail <http://www.blueprintsoftware.com/> and not PMail (Pegasus Mail). - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Plan to be more spontaneous. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOdxtAfAXeSHuB5k3EQITfgCferO2t4BLa3gIJot8F2TPPkx2OUMAni9B FCojYJarfKtQZlj0ai+rZ3iB =DVWa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Repairs successful after Bat nearly done in by disk defragmentation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:20:56 -0500, David Robert Austen wrote: DRA> Did the disk defrag (as possible cause) ring a bell with you? No. :-) I've personally never had a problem with a defragging routine. DRA> I have never had a bad result with it that I can remember, but I DRA> know others who resist doing it. I defrag partitions if it's recommended by the defrag utility. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Talk Show. " Using TB! v1.46d «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOdzdIfAXeSHuB5k3EQIXbgCgmIfwJNVdHWUuT/2M614GrtMVJ1sAnjsu HqdkfqDz8OuXMPJHt9WcDZPq =/GEC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3 quickies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000 19:45:28 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> 1. Is it possible to attach an address to a folder when JR> "create new msg" is selected? For example, I have a folder JR> that gets all the msgs filtered from this list, If I click on JR> the "create a new msg" with my cursor on TBUDL folder, the JR> correct template appears but I still have to enter the JR> address manually. Not that I'm that lazy, just curious. Yes. In the new message template for the folder insert the following: %To="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Watch out however when hitting mailto: links in messages residing in this folder. They will be addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. A more foolproof method would be to create an address book entry for TBUDL, define templates for it and include it in your favourites menu by ticking the favourites column box in the address book. Whenever you wish to write a new message to the list, select TBUDL from your favourites menu elicited by either hitting the little arrow on the new message toolbar button or right clicking on the To: field in the editor window. JR> 2. What do TB! mavens suggest is the best format to use when JR> importing an address book from Outlook Express. I see JR> specific formats set out for Pegasus & Eurdora but not JR> Outlook Express which is probably the most widely used JR> emailer [ at least in the U.S. ] I'll leave that for the likes of Ming and other prior OE users. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "DILATE: To live longer. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOd+8ZPAXeSHuB5k3EQIX2ACg30MD0wt8BkdPcdGgOeDQmwYKrvMAn1kW 2JB3woxjO53OCRHc6IM6BesV =Wf3L -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Macro options
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 14:30:24 +0100, Charlie Turner (ceejay) wrote: CTc> I've spent some time looking through the TBUDL archive, and CTc> discovered a couple of macro options that I'd not seen before. I'm CTc> beginning to wonder if there might be more macro options available CTc> than are actually listed when hitting the macro button when CTc> composing a template. There are quite a few macros not listed in the menus within the template editor. To see a more exhaustive list of macros, look under the help topics -> Message Template -> The complete list of template macros. CTc> For example I couldn't find the following: %QUOTESTYLE & %QINCLUDE CTc> which are just two macro options I discovered while going back CTc> through the archive. Or have I missed a complete section on TB! CTc> macro's somewhere?! These are both listed in the help's macro list. There are other recent ones which haven't been added to the list as yet. The introduction of new macros tends to lag the help. New macros recently introduced include the %Comment, %Comment="" and %Org="" macros. These are not yet in the help AFAICS. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "RamDisk is *not* an installation procedure. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeB/ffAXeSHuB5k3EQKxSgCgwhKZS1BIj08Ud4I8g0Pzd0AchY8AnRvM KXRuIrjxeln4d5bcn+ECrKAX =aNHq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: FONT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:27:20 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> Marck, I wonder if it would be possible to include a Files section NA> on our FAQ site where Members/Moderators could upload/download a NA> number of fixed-width fonts. Windows seems to have such a limited NA> number of those fonts available, yet those of us who have Programs NA> along the lines of MS Office, have access to a greater number of NA> them, and it would be nice to share those with the other Members. NA> I'm not sure of the legality of doing something like that, but I NA> know the Members would sure be appreciative. :o) If you have extra fonts that come packaged with MS Office there could easily be copyright restrictions against their free distribution. I have a couple that I obtained as well which I know aren't free and hence cannot be freely distributed. I'm however willing to share them privately. In the meantime take a look at this site: http://home.bsu.edu/prn/monofont/index.html There are some free fixed width fonts available here and links are provided to places where you may purchase others. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeCz3PAXeSHuB5k3EQL56ACdHgL17wfS+GfXs70uQOOQsWHrqLcAnjLY e+8nJVVef8eRiB5wtmZiAkDS =b5cM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Filter stopped working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 02:40:28 +0200, Juergen Frisch wrote: JF>on Monday, October 09, 2000, 02:31, you wrote: >> How do I get to the beta version JF>http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html >> and is it as easy to install as this version? JF>Yes. Please note that the beta download doesn't contain an install executable. It's simply a replacement file. Unzip/UnRAR the beta archive to the TB! installation directory where the thebat.exe executable will be replaced with the beta version. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Hard work must have killed someone! " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeEV2vAXeSHuB5k3EQLgZwCdHYzJ11Io7i3xRrQsqgx1HpEbLfEAoMzl K0SGzQuNtg+ooISuQ5v+hw/X =0sum -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: backup problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 18:56:55 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: >> I'm trying to copy my TB folder to another location as backup >> before installing a different version and had the following >> error message twice about half way through: >> Cannot create or replace MESSAGES: Cannot read from the source >> file or disk >> I did a backup just 2 days ago without problems. >> Any ideas? JA> Make sure TB is closed down. TB probably locks the currently open JA> message base so other programs can't use it. This is very common JA> behaviour for applications. Hmmm. I have TB! running all the time and yet I have the system scheduler do daily backups of my accounts' mail. How exactly are you doing your backups Susanne? You say you're backing up a TB! folder. What do you mean? Are you exporting the messages or are you copying the folders contents via explorer to another location. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "It is incumbent on us to avoid archaisms. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeEpJfAXeSHuB5k3EQI1vQCgr15jscOmL++aoxEhHHQw+14OIoUAnRd8 m/y/59tKMr0mddJBEJRgipw/ =AHU6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: backup problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 19:29:09 -0700, Susanne wrote: >> How exactly are you doing your backups Susanne? You say you're backing >> up a TB! folder. What do you mean? Are you exporting the messages or are >> you copying the folders contents via explorer to another location. S> I just copy the whole TB folder to another location. That's something I do weekly without problems. I don't know what's happening with you. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you got " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeE/x/AXeSHuB5k3EQLg2QCguDs1NcBSDin4+ne8MozihYcfOT0AmgLp ZvpzOX8KY9sqt0xcOolNikTA =H/2g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: multiple Kill Filters?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:13:11 -0400, Don Mulvihill wrote: DM> do I need to make a 'new' kill filter for each word I want to DM> filter? Or is there a way to put multiple words in the Signal DM> Strings area of a single kill filter. I've tried this, but it didn't DM> work, so I'm wondering if it's possible at all, and that perhaps I DM> was just missing some necessary syntax. DM> I'd like to create a single kill filter, say, "Junk", and put words DM> like; viagra, $, mortgage, hot, loans, debt, etc. In the kill filter configuration panel, in the 'Signat Strings' box simply type them in like this: Junk viagra $ hot loans debt If this is a spam filter that you're creating, you may kill-filter a significant amount of legitimate mail. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Simple Technology. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeJcVvAXeSHuB5k3EQIvpQCeKwkeqrdDnYZRCfRi4tump8dVRTgAnR8F a8nJQzr0nugj9/K29vmCZcyQ =3txu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: multiple Kill Filters?
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:25:06 -0400, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. wrote:
PJFS> Be very careful of the dollar sign ($) a lot of folks here use it
PJFS> when talking about Bill GatesWare :>)
Please be sure to stick to adequately trimming away the
excess quotation in posts.
I suggest that you replace the %quotes macro with the following in your
reply templates. It will strip out most of the signature and PGP related
stuff:
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SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3"""
Try it. I think you'll like it. Make sure that it's all in one line.
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Re: Address Book Templates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:29:40 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> What would that "something" be Marck that wouldn't screw up the Address NA> Book Templates? I've tried just putting a space in, but to no avail, and NA> if I include any other character, that single character becomes my entire NA> template... the Address Book Template doesn't seem to be called. In the account templates, enter generic templates. Afterall, you need to use *something* for those messages/recipients for which address book templates have not been defined. If an address book template has been defined for a particular recipient, it will be used preferentially over the account level template. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMQc/AXeSHuB5k3EQJXZACg0ED1eZm4K/ee29V1EswYeIrp22AAmwTZ u2NbnnOX2P3m8evwGVnJ+O+Q =3X2P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Templates Inheriting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:43:31 +0200, Michal Kozusznik wrote: MK> What about this feature? Is there some similar? I mean, when I MK> create new subfolder, I want to have a choice to automaticly coping MK> the templates from parent folder into new one. That would be nice, yes. MK> The same, when I create default account templates and need to have MK> the same defined into specific folders of this account. If you delete the templates from a folder, close the folders properties and reopen them, you'll see templates magically reappear. These are the default templates that you're seeing, the templates defined in the account properties. MK> The best will be, when changing templates in parents, casing changes in MK> child ones. You're assuming that the user will always want to use the same templates in the child folder as are in the parent folder, when this will certainly not always be the case. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Reality is nothing but a collective hunch. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMRnvAXeSHuB5k3EQKZfACgphW6TrpIa6jJPWgI8fu5O3swNeIAnj95 9ogvW+4y5eX8oYgqCLSrP42Y =HFcC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address Book Templates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 05:59:01 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> Unfortunately Allie, my set up doesn't work that way. What ever is in the NA> Account level template, is what get's used, regardless of what I have in NA> my Address Book template... given that the folder templates are blank. I've never used TB! with my folder templates blank. Someone else tried this and ended up with the same trouble that you did. At present I'm unable to delete any of my folders templates. If I delete one of my folders templates, close the folder and reopen it, I'll see the default account templates sitting merrily there. What you did was to delete *both* the folder and default account templates. Now that you have redefined the account default templates, the folder templates remain empty which will make the address book templates not work. In my present setup, I have default templates defined in the account properties. *All* of my folders have these same default templates defined in them. I then have my address book templates defined. The result of this setup is that: a) If I am sending mail to a recipient not in my address book, the default templates will be used. b) If I am sending mail to a recipient that's in my address book, then address book templates will be used. NA> I have to re-enter the template at the folder level... which puts me right NA> back to where I started 2 hours ago. :o( Pity that you hadn't done what I had done, which was to leave the default templates in the account properties alone, and then delete the folder templates. If you had done that, you would have noted that all the folders would get the default templates reassigned to them automagically. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "All the easy problems have been solved. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMXH/AXeSHuB5k3EQIDWQCg56LV4juSLxGzFxsC5XP2YvZ2JcIAoLFm +S2teNSEkXdm1ickcQ+Q0JzX =+Mrh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Exception EAccessViolation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:15:00 -0700, Jerry S. wrote: JS> I recently upgraded from 1.44 to 1.46d. No the first time I launch JS> TheBat, I get the following error: JS> Application Error JS> Exception Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at 0006653C. JS> Access violation at address 00467780. Write of address 006BE984. JS> [OK] I can't say that I recall reading about such a problem on these lists. May I suggest that you write directly to Ritlabs support on that. and also, no, I have no insights into the problem itself to share. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Efficiency takes time! Frugality: who can afford it? " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMYSvAXeSHuB5k3EQJZiQCfR5gczgyY4GO8pmFcr3y5u0G46HYAoPOJ Db+gdnLUFrYagqyXsPrroAlD =mrp+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange happernings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:22:54 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> This morning I tried to reply to a msg in a folder filtered for a JR> specific subject. However, when I selected text [ or just reply ] JR> nothing came up except my signature. This is most puzzling as it JR> only seems to apply to this one folder. The reply template governing JR> this folder looks like this: Is this problem occurring with a particular message filtered to the folder or is it occurring with all messages filtered to the folder? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The pendulum has gone full circle. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMXlPAXeSHuB5k3EQKgmQCg7M8gaU+g/C5W+jX6C+Qwe70mI4UAnR6W bFD+kaXPu0kRxvVTqqBtYvqf =2zHu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address Book Templates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 06:52:01 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: >> a) If I am sending mail to a recipient not in my address book, the >> default templates will be used. NA> But that behaviour is not dependant on having AB templates defined. No, it's not. >> b) If I am sending mail to a recipient that's in my address book, then >> address book templates will be used. NA> That is where my install differs from yours. My AB templates were NA> never used. Have you yet redefined your folder templates? If so, then this is very strange. NA> The only basic difference between my account and AB templates, were NA> the different signatures I wanted to use for different addresses, Same here for me. NA> but they were never included despite having them defined in the AB NA> templates... the generic signature defined in the account templates NA> was always used for some reason. :o( I strongly suspect that you're missing something. >> Pity that you hadn't done what I had done, which was to leave the >> default templates in the account properties alone, and then delete the >> folder templates. If you had done that, you would have noted that all >> the folders would get the default templates reassigned to them >> automagically. NA> But I *did* do that initially, I thought you said that you deleted your account templates from the account properties. NA> In any event, there is just too many template entries when NA> attempting to use Address Book templates... far too much redundancy. I just ignore my folder templates. I haven't looked at one in ages. They're all identical anyway. NA> I have spent the time to get my templates back to the folder level, NA> where everything is working fine now... just like they used to. I NA> think I have the best of both worlds with my current set up. :o) Pity you didn't get things to work, I'm almost certain that you'd have preferred it that way. :-) NA> I was attempting to change everything over to Address Book NA> templates, because you and Marck thought highly of them, and I NA> wanted to see the benefit of having them. For me unfortunately, they NA> really only complicated matters more. :o( Let me give you the advantages I enjoy. a) I filter all TBBETA and TBUDL messages to a single folder and read from there. It's a lot easier to read from one instead of two folders. When I hit reply to a TBBETA message, the TBBETA reply template is used. When I hit reply to a TBUDL message, the TBUDL reply template is used. If I didn't have address book templates defined, I couldn't do this. Even better b) I filter all private e-mail to the Inbox. I get about 20-30 of these per day, so instead of managing these messages from multiple folders, I filter them to a single folder. I then use automatic reply filters to move the messages to their respective folders when I reply to them. Each message reply gets it's own address book defined template. If I were using folder templates, I'd have to filter the messages to folders where these special templates are defined. I'd be flitting from folder to folder just to read 10 private mail messages. Marck uses the ticker virtual folder to read his messages from *everywhere*. Address book templates are indispensable here since he's managing his messages from a single folder. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Instant gratification takes too long. - Carrie Fisher " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMkd/AXeSHuB5k3EQI80QCfSNtTZADjshyUxusUQz74a+Bd/s4An3rJ 67bi9mjKq2a89xoqu82VGzj5 =JYBP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange happernings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:27:12 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: ACM>> Is this problem occurring with a particular message filtered to the ACM>> folder or is it occurring with all messages filtered to the folder? JR> JR: All msgs in the folder. Wow! On looking at your template I can't see why this is happening. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "The Definition of an Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeMobvAXeSHuB5k3EQK29wCgiQltaU3q6tZfFiO7AUCVVD6wxeMAn1le JH0bY6nOxA9B84+GB+WlO0Tg =3drf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange happernings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:39:06 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> no. I double checked anyway. yes I checked the AB. No they are text JR> only msgs. This happens to any msg in this folder. JR> yes, I was able to reply with a similar template. JR> no, didn't work JR> no, this does not work in the folder. Strange. My only suggestion is that you delete and recreate the template and as a last resort recreate the folder. Strange problems usually have strange solutions, unless of course, something simple is being missed. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If your attack is going well, then it's an ambush.. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeNzBPAXeSHuB5k3EQLRMQCfSDfu4aKUISUPiP8SY1ejN/DnehEAoK4A 1Oywcq9B7lIS6XR9vRQKJB1k =wn71 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange happernings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:57:41 -0400, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR> I didn't have special templates in the AB or JR> for the JR> specific addresses associated with the folder JR> but the JR> address entries seemed to be the common JR> denominator. So JR> I deleted the two addresses which were filtered JR> for the JR> folder in question. To avoid the above text reflowing nightmare when PGP signing your messages, go into the PGP Preferences and disable the "Word wrap clear signed messages.." option. TB! wraps its message text before sending. There's no need for PGP to be re-wrapping the text again. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Always remember you're unique - just like everyone else. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOePLg/AXeSHuB5k3EQIMGQCgg7iw8AeOGX7IrcP2sOQDJy24haAAoJk8 nXEnMOP2O/LMvcBYcIWqlvAN =rXdS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:21:04 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: NA>> If I remember correctly when I was using PGP 6.5.8 via TB!'s NA>> plug-in, no such dialogue box appeared, and the message was simply NA>> encrypted to whomever it was addressed to (along with your default NA>> key if you set the options as such), with no opportunity to add NA>> recipients. MDP> That's not what I see. I get a selection dialog showing the two keys MDP> which TB/PGP is intending to use (the recipient's and my default key) MDP> in a small lower panel and allowing me to select any others from my MDP> keyring in a larger listbox above. I only get the box with a choice of which keys to use in the following situations: a) When I have more than one of the same key type, using the same name or e-mail address, for the message recipient. b) When I'm trying to encrypt mail for a recipient whose public key is not associated with the current To: address. c) When the key for signing is found to be invalid. Otherwise the message is automatically encrypted without the key choice dialog popping up. When I encrypt a message to you Marck, the dialog doesn't appear. Same for Nick. IOW's the box seems to pop up only when there is some uncertainty as to which key to use. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Shift happpens. - Doppler " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOePQiPAXeSHuB5k3EQKziQCfbwRhwxGv9q8H/mT7w8R5wxT4zcUAoO5D cnCUjuoAGsllKb83ET/77tB9 =iTvh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:23:26 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> Being able to choose multiple recipients is a feature of PGP's encryption NA> process, so not having that choice when using TB! is a clear indication NA> that the problem rests with the plug-in. NA> Thanks again for your input. No problem, but hang on there a minute Nick. If I wish to encrypt the message to multiple recipients, when I address the message to the other recipients, the encryption to the other recipients is also done automatically (unless uncertainties with the other recipients key as I outlined before arise). I can't think of any practical reason why I'd want to encrypt a message to someone to whom the message will not be sent to. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOePiXfAXeSHuB5k3EQLfPACgim+jvwwSycL8aGHffc34NZFDLRcAnj5T Vbp7P1Q98zzuqvA/kmVXDAQH =cQjx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:24:48 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: KE> I have similar problems as Nick describes with pgp v6.5.8. I've just KE> switched to the ckt build of pgp 6.5.8 and have yet to post a KE> message which is encrypted to see if i have the same problems. But KE> one thing i wonder is is this the same when you post a new msg as KE> when you reply? Yes it is the same. The same reasons for the key selection pop-up dialog appearing apply for both new and reply messages. KE> I've only replied to encrypted messages, and then the bat chooses KE> the recipients key. This is because you have a single key associated with the recipient address. There's no other key to choose from, hence the dialog doesn't appear. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Did you expect mere proof to sway my opinion? " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeRHr/AXeSHuB5k3EQIZ7ACfc/V8Y9OXQicSGHlbcupeT2lM1FUAoOhx tZzvVYCsXP4qtzrb4TDkoXRh =zC7p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:04:51 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> You make a good point there Allie, but what if you have more than NA> one Public Key associated with a given recipient... will TB!/6.5.8 NA> produce the dialogue box giving you a choice of which Public Key to NA> use? Yes it will, if the addresses associated with the keys are the same or doesn't correspond with the current intended address. NA> What if you were sending the message to a colleague in the next NA> office, and only wanted to use conventional encryption, If you have a PGP key for the recipient, why would you wish to use conventional encryption? If you don't have a key for the person in the next office, the dialog will appear. NA> or use the secure viewer? Is this for message decryption? If so, I use PGP tray when I wish to use the secure viewer. I assign a hot-key to it. I use the TB! decryption shortcut if I wish to decrypt the message the TB! way and I use the PGP Tray hot-key if I wish to use the secure viewer. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "One man's constant is another man's variable. - Perlis " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeR22vAXeSHuB5k3EQIasACgzcvpftdYvLvsSKNhqMJi+QgNHlUAn2eD fZPzlu91PqexxUWeo4F4e0aL =WXbz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:28:53 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: NA>> Well that seems strange, because that was not my experience when NA>> using TB! and 6.5.8 I can't see anything in your setup that was NA>> any different in how I had PGP's options set. I don't understand NA>> why you get the dialogue box, and I... and others... don't/did NA>> not. :o( MDP> I think that the answer is that I have multiple keys on my keyring MDP> that bear my email address. I'm sure that, if I had only one, I MDP> would not see the dialog box. Hmmm. I have an RSA as well as a DH/DSS key and don't always get the dialog. I guess that the disabled DH/DSS key that you have is the reason behind the dialog appearing for you all the time. It's interesting that this is so even though you've defined a default key to use. It seems that TB! cannot decide which of the DH/DSS keys to use and hence the dialog appears. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Procrastination: The art of keeping up with yesterday. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeR8H/AXeSHuB5k3EQI9RACfZebVScgvCTqDq+Q+kxzJS0FHG6UAoKLK d5KX6lSRVIkGcHaiYjoeFJUm =4jLD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Encrypting Messages with PGP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:27:45 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote: NA> After further reading Marck, I have to agree with you and Allie on NA> this. Apparently, if you want to force the PGP Recipient Dialogue NA> box to appear, hold down the SHIFT key while hitting the send NA> button. This will avail you of the option to use Conventional NA> Encryption and/or the Secure Viewer. NA> You mention that the dialogue box appears for you every time, but NA> perhaps Allie wouldn't mind trying this method to see if it works. No, using the key while hitting send to invoke the dialog doesn't work here. NA> If I recall correctly, the encryption was done before the message NA> was sent if you used the "Privacy/PGP/Encrypt Entire Text" option NA> from the Message Toolbar, so perhaps one would have to enable PGP NA> via the Account Properties, and check the box for encryption. This NA> would cause the message to be encrypted *after* you hit the send NA> button, Actually in the editor window, I enable PGP and select 'encrypt when complete' in the Privacy menu to get the message encrypted upon sending. NA> and thus by holding down the SHIFT button in this case *should* NA> bring up the PGP Recipient Selection dialogue box. It doesn't for me. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Even in this corner of the galaxy, Captain, 2+2=4 ... Spock " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeR7SvAXeSHuB5k3EQI1AwCgoSUX/DoVheGvZlHL9rZ34vijiwEAnRvf jgZVVTA8ahuiqwJJ4CCg4nTs =t532 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: strange happernings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:40:19 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH> Just a thought: Since I just about 3 or 4 weeks ago unchecked the PGP DH> option but never before got some comment about bad reflow ... could DH> another "solution" be to have TB! and PGP (by voluntary accident in my DH> case) warp at exactly the same number of characters? If you do this, then you'll have to be sure that no quoted text exceeds the wrap limit defined by PGP or else the quoted material will be re-wrapped/munged by PGP. The best thing to do is to just disable the option in PGP because you really don't need it when using TB!. The option is really included for those pesky clients (most out there) that reflow text upon sending. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOeSaffAXeSHuB5k3EQKIUQCfVdE/VC3SGiAjiollUHQSkLwu04wAoLX8 o9etqySxs2IH6zkD+IiWtX5f =Mu3l -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:24:48 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: KE> I have a filter that is set up to send out pgp keys to those KE> requesting it. I changed the template for the auto reply and suddenly KE> my filters have stopped working. filter is set up like this. KE> Name: pgp-sendkeys KE> Move to: trash. KE> Signalstrings Location Presence KE> send_pgp_keys Subject Yes Looking at your PGP request mailto: link, this seems OK. KE> I have actions set to create an auto-reply with my keys attached. KE> Here's the auto-reply template: Seems fine to me. What you placed in the auto-reply template shouldn't affect the filter working anyway. It will only affect what the recipient gets. I changed my own auto-reply template quite a few times without problems. KE> %SUBJECT="" ^^^ You don't need this line to completely change the subject. KE> %SUBJECT="Here are my pgp keys!" KE> Could it be the change of subject that messes everything up? I know KE> it shouldn't matter, so what am i doing wrong? Thanks for all help KE> even if it's just to tell me to go RTFM. No, I change my subject as well in my auto-reply. This is a good thing to do because if, the recipient sends you a thank you note or wishes to indicate a problem with the auto-reply then the filter will latch on to "send_pgp_keys" in the reply and resend the keys. Not to mention problems with running your own tests. :-) I'd put the filter aside and think of other things. If there's nothing else to pin the problem on then the only alternative would be to recreate the filter. There have been a number of reports about filters suddenly not working anymore when they were just working previously, despite the filter not being adjusted in any way. I've never personally experienced this. Usually when one of my filter breaks in such a way it's because I added another filter, which created problems with the filter rule ordering. You should check if this is your problem first. Did you change the position of the key request filter in the filter rule listing either manually or indirectly by adding other filters? Also check if you inadvertently changed other settings. Is the 'manual only' switch enabled? Is the 'active' switch disabled? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "If marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will have inlaws. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeW4KfAXeSHuB5k3EQLSfQCfTpc4h6F2tNKF0gD5MqW8oPL26BsAnRjd Zg6GyGBejb2xXIFd8eqtNh2E =dJBG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:13:58 +0200, Gerd Ewald wrote: GE> [...] >> This is an automatic response generated by the bat! %thebatversion To >> contact me via icq, use the number 902032, to reach me via email use >> %fromaddr. %signcomplete GE> [...] GE> Sorry Krister, no help but a question. I have the same template-filter GE> configuration for auto-reply. I realized you use %SIGNCOMPLETE for signing the GE> auto-reply. GE> Does this work ?? Good question. I had to sign mine manually sign my auto-reply. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Software Independent: Won't work with ANY software. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeXkvvAXeSHuB5k3EQIJqwCfcvdik7u5MGhbxwMcICiDRxgI330AoPfU EXfA+JJUvig1s7iFPcQBX5tU =sN5D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:00:06 +0200, Gerd Ewald wrote: >> Good question. I had to sign mine manually sign my auto-reply. GE> What do you mean when you say "..manually sign..." ? Did you sign GE> the reply text and stored it in a .TXT-File which is %PUT into the GE> reply ? That was a typo. I meant that I created the template externally, signed it, and then imported the signed message into the auto-reply template. GE> My auto-reply message is in the Outbox in the second the filter GE> found a msg with "send_key" in the subject line, without any GE> 'hesitation'. Same here, except that for my filter neither [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor [EMAIL PROTECTED] should appear in the headers of the message. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Unusual Routine. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYNNfAXeSHuB5k3EQJVlgCg9P3JQrJR+HYUDMIoe0GUAI1ajVAAmwaF u9C+WQjcMliLhfU+/xzt79SW =wPJA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: F4 does not automatically include quoted message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:06:47 -0400, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK> In TheBat! 1.46d when I press F4 to reply to a message, the message MK> is not quoted in the Edit Mail Message window. Is it possible for F4 MK> to automatically include the quoted message in the reply? That's the shortcut use to quote only selected text. If you don't select any text, none will be quoted. A standard reply with quotes is done using the shortcuts CTRL+ or . - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Oxymoron: Sisterly Love. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYN8vAXeSHuB5k3EQI0zgCg8nNZm9U4YModDPZc44+XXMRe/UwAn1kh hqnG4Pu4zg9CC8y/bOt4RbOC =e70+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:54:29 -0400, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK> In TheBat! 1.46d is there a way to allow the quote character ">" to MK> appear on a line space when quoting a message with paragraphs? Unfortunately, not an easy one. If you manually quote your text it will will be quoted the way that you want it to be. IOW's, select and copy the text that you'd like to quote, hit +F4 to reply without quoting, and then paste the copied text as a quotation using the right click context menu or toolbar button in the message editor. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Only those who do nothing make no mistakes. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYOrPAXeSHuB5k3EQI3YQCg6tMrIevS+zm3oG5WsxbZ/W74rWgAn2G2 QH3mULD2uItVyyjzvWEtQnsO =eBM0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: F4 does not automatically include quoted message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 03:15:56 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: MK>> In TheBat! 1.46d when I press F4 to reply to a message, the message is MK>> not quoted in the Edit Mail Message window. Is it possible for F4 to MK>> automatically include the quoted message in the reply? TF> I second the wish. Right now, F4 means "reply without quote", while TF> ctrl-F4 means "reply with full quote". ^ Uhm ... Mistake there. means reply to original sender. F4 means reply quoting only selected text. means reply without quotation. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "An error? Impossible! My modem is error correcting. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYau/AXeSHuB5k3EQJGhgCdEMWbEMZz/R0ZqxI3hHAJf5D0vwkAoLtt 5ndLQ/cOenl1U33NHR/G2pn3 =RYvw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: ! 1.46d: quoting question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:35:59 -0400, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK> The above definitely detailed a tedious and slow process to MK> accomplish something that all other e-mail clients already do. Granted. :-) I did say it wasn't easy.:-) I don't consider it a workable solution but thought it best to indicate that it can be done and how. TB! has its own style of quoting ... that's all. Let's see if they change this with future versions. MK> BTW... I am seeking an e-mail client to suite my needs and my MK> clients (around 50 to 500 users). I am a Technical Solutionist for a MK> software company and we have many clients outside of the software MK> business. They basically will use an e-mail client that I highly MK> recommend and has ease of use. Currently I am support them on MK> Netscape Communicator 4.7x and this program constantly crashes. Many MK> of us use IMAP, but mostly POP3. Again, the present version of TB! isn't a shining example of IMAP implementation in that it's lacking in functionality. I personally have never used the IMAP support and can only tell you other user impressions on it. There are official plans to greatly improve on IMAP support in the upcoming version 2. I'm sorry that I can't tell you version 2 will appear on the scenes. No-one really knows. Ritlabs have not officially given word on this in a very long time. However, TB!'s present POP3 support is excellent. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "How do you write zero in Roman numerals? " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYaEPAXeSHuB5k3EQKQrgCdFjcs2fRF0M2T3q4lGR3xhPaLHJkAn1Hj ZrHJqRx6gFWmlTSkD73JwbLR =rr0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 13:06:45 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA> What about using a simple regexp in your filter string? I'm not JA> exactly sure if this is right, but perhaps someone will correct me JA> if I'm wrong. I'm just using Kirster's filter as an example. JA> String Location Presence JA> ^Subject.\s*send.pgp.keys Kludges Yes JA> The advantage of this string is that if someone manually typed in the JA> string, slight mistakes would automatically be accepted. For example, JA> changing the underscores to spaces or dashes would still get matched. JA> Also any number of leading spaces would also be accepted. It would also prevent problems if someone replies to your auto-reply. The Re: in the subject will prevent the regex match. :-) The only thing I'd add is changing the regex to "^Subject.\s*send.*pgp.*keys", in case the dash or space is accidentally left out. >> I've never personally experienced this. Usually when one of my filter >> breaks in such a way it's because I added another filter, which >> created problems with the filter rule ordering. JA> As seen above, changing folder locations can also cause problems. JA> Usually the problem only occurs when you move folders across accounts. JA> Moving to any level within the same account is usually no problem. Changing folder names within the account or across accounts is not a problem either. I frequently do this sort of thing and TB!'s filters auto-adjust nicely. JA> And now for my question of the day: How much does TB know about JA> other accounts when you log into a single account? For example, say JA> A and B above were just user accounts. If I log into A, all I see is JA> A. So there are two parts to this question. First, will any filters JA> in A that *move* or copy messages to B still work? Second, will I be JA> able to *create* a filter which can move or copy a message to B JA> while logged into A? I don't know. I've never done that. :-/ Anyone with experience in this regard? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Frostbite Falls Minnesota, home of Watsa Matta U. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYfG/AXeSHuB5k3EQI5xQCgz+F5lyUgxtPdxEG79eEHu8p4FQ8Amweo g6BZp5mSNDejbd3HUyquTOfG =mJDM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Reply counter increments [1] ... [2] ... [3] ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:22:45 -0400, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK> How do I prevent TheBat! 1.46d from showing the reply message count MK> level in brackets? Include the macro %Singlere in your reply templates. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Warning: Politicians can be hazardous to your wealth. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeYh9vAXeSHuB5k3EQIXaACeL9/qCo+LdNWKcy5tGd9qi9bdwAoAoJhx zT14fhRZCJ2EKtPzXEu7NtXl =w6DW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:32:57 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: ACM>> It would also prevent problems if someone replies to your auto-reply. The ACM>> Re: in the subject will prevent the regex match. :-) The only thing I'd ACM>> add is changing the regex to "^Subject.\s*send.*pgp.*keys", in case the ACM>> dash or space is accidentally left out. MDP> I'd make that "^Subject.\s*send\W*pgp\W*keys" for best results. The MDP> one you gave above would match "Subject: How do I send someone my MDP> PGP keys?" Indeed, indeed!! :-) You've touched on an area of using regex's that takes some time to master and ie the art of preventing unwanted matches. :-) - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Hell, if you understood everything I said, you'd be me! " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeY1RvAXeSHuB5k3EQIVyACdHOaAbsWog8LGIXlMWcDnXJKE8ZYAoLvV RKzRkyGjjDkxotDE8iX8gICo =fRQQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Read next unread message in mail folder?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:02:00 -0400, Mark Knipfer wrote: MK> In TheBat! 1.46d, how do I read the next unread message in the current MK> mail folder? Hit <]> - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeZAm/AXeSHuB5k3EQIQvACggUPwMRZC6DIzfM7+Ed7O72Sd7JIAn2nF W0oFj4Uy5wkCiJXdbtIChENN =8TB3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Multi-user environment (was: Re: Another question on filters and templates)
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:30:26 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA> 1. I made my main account and my dummy account both user level accounts. JA> 2. When I fire up TB, I get a login box asking for my username. I've been, for a long time, wanting to suppress the visibility of one of the accounts that I hardly use, and decided to try this stuff myself. Since I easily remembered the story of a new user changing an account to user and not being able to logon, I did some reading of the documentation. Unfortunately, *again*, the documentation is poor and I had to do the usual experimenting (not safe in this particular instance). Anyway, I made the accounts I wanted to see user accounts, created a user-group that could use these two accounts and logged back on as such. The hardly used account is now the administrator account. JA> So a user has no way of knowing from within TB how many other accounts JA> exist. However, the user can know that other accounts exist since the JA> little animation will flap when *any* account has new mail, even if JA> you can't see that account. This really shouldn't be the case now should it? This needs to be tidied up. The bat icon should animate only when new mail arrives in the user account/s and not just any account. JA> 7. I checked my quick templates. I can not access QT's from other JA>accounts despite the "Share with other accounts" option. This JA>seems like a bug. Indeed it seems so, unless the developers think that QT sharing means the other account holders can share the quick templates but not edit them. JA> 8. I opened a new message. My template comes up ok. This is strange, JA>that template is a QT defined in another account. This behaviour I confirm. Maybe it's a look but don't touch thing. IOW's you may use them but not edit them. But how are you to use them, if you can't see them? JA>But, typing in a QT Handle from another account + JA>results in "QT handle not found" errors. Confirmed. The quick templates aren't listed in the Utilities menu either. JA> This certainly seems like a bug. I gave permission to all accounts to JA> use those QT's when I defined them. Why shouldn't I be able to JA> manually access them in any way? At this point, I do agree that this seems like buggy behaviour. JA> This doesn't make sense. TB tries hard to hide the other accounts JA> from me other places (eg. Filters, QT), but not in the check mail JA> list? Is this consistent behaviour? Nope. The user should not have any control over other accounts unless explicitly granted. This should include mail checking. JA> Also I can change accounts in the message editor window, meaning I JA> can see all accounts here too. Isn't that a risk considering the JA> reasons for creating User level accounts and groups? For my purpose, JA> this might be a good thing, but it seems counter intuitive to me. JA> Why hide the QT's for the other accounts? Why not allow *viewing* or JA> *using* the QT's for other accounts? I can understand not allowing JA> *editing* of QT's from other accounts. Agreed. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Old age is better than the alternative. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:22:58 -0500, David Robert Austen wrote: DRA> I am occasionally astounded to see the number of duplicate messages DRA> that are reported deleted when I order "Kill Dupes." Do you purge and compress your folders regularly? DRA> Is there more going on here than I think? In terms of deleting unduplicated mail ... I doubt it. DRA> Are there situations e.g. where a like-named message is killed when DRA> it is in fact a different message within the same thread? For DRA> example, the same author may respond twice to the same thread. This would be ***extremely*** unlikely. DRA> I think file size would be perhaps the most reliably meaningful and DRA> absolute measure of a difference. TB! uses message ID's to detect duplicated messages. If two messages share the same ID's, then one is deleted. This is a more foolproof method than message size. This is the ID for your message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ^^ This is random <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ^^ This is the date and time the message was created down to the nearest second!! DRA> Everybody out there feeling really confident in this default DRA> technique? I'm quite confident about it as is. How likely is it that two TB! messages will have the same Id?:-) If you look at the format of other message ID's for none TB! users, you'll see that it's very unlikely that e-mail message ID's could be duplicated. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "OK, I'm weird! But I'm saving up to become eccentric. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeaFhvAXeSHuB5k3EQKSkQCg2uB9Ij9N+82ySxFcUjlUW0EiE9EAoJW3 9ZyL92tWt7CVCDonweW0//uV =DoiP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill Dupes - and what else possibly?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 04:35:51 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: DRA>> Still feeling astounded, MDP> Calm yourself - all is well ;-). You certainly burn both candles!! It's 4:30am for you. Are you getting up or going to bed? - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "...and on the seventh day, He exited from append mode. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOeaGHfAXeSHuB5k3EQKfIwCg4ggafXfcZgL7HYzSsVSrBDulpt8An0gC qMoZytAJ6p22W7SGG6scpy4X =TVuo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:52:00 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
JA>> I guess it depends on how sticky you want to be. Of course you could
JA>> also specify a maximum number of errors. Supposing you want a maximum
JA>> of 4 mistakes between each of the keywords, the regexp becomes:
JA>> ^Subject.\s*send.{0,4}pgp.{0,4}keys
KE> Erm, stupid question of the week: Why the {0,4}?
It means that there should be a minumum of 0 but no more than 4 of the
characters immediately preceding the quantifier, in this case, '.' which
means any character except a new line.
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Re: F4 does not automatically include quoted message
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 13:12:44 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: ACM>> means reply to original sender. ACM>> F4 means reply quoting only selected text. ACM>> means reply without quotation. KE> And here comes an interesting bug/feature?... When you hit shift+f4 KE> (reply without quoting), the reply template complete with "on x,y KE> you said" Yes, the reply template is generated. The reply template is not a quotation. :-) KE> or whatever and the list from which you can select quoted material KE> are visible Are you referring to Original Text view pane, that can be closed using the menu's View -> Original Text toggle switch. That again has nothing to do with whether or not you're quoting the message. KE> and what's more, you can quote from it and put it in the edit KE> message window. Bottomline, either the function is practically KE> useless or i've done something stupid again.:-) I, personally, find it useless since hitting F4 without selecting any text achieves the same thing. If you're in the habit of selecting text from your message bodies for purposes other than quoting then it may prove to be useful to you. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "I distinctly remember forgetting that. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:18:27 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote: ACM>> Did you change the position of the key request filter in the filter rule ACM>> listing either manually or indirectly by adding other filters? KE> Hmm, so i did. I added an antispam filter which became the last one KE> in the list. That's the place for an antispam filter to be, right? Not really. If the antispam filter is placed there to delete spam as they come in, then one of the earlier filters could match the spam message and prevent its deletion. It could stay there provided that the preceding filters are precise in what they're supposed to filter. Spam filters are usually placed at the top. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Always remember no matter where you go, there you are. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOecanvAXeSHuB5k3EQJoJQCfZn0JBv1rcyVa413v5xq5WtwDf3UAnjT9 ocJODrzlzGY6ImLOk8BOh2kq =dCf3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Another question on filters and templates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:29:04 +0200, Dierk Haasis wrote: >> First of all let me comment one thing. When you sent the pgp key >> request, it triggered the filter fine, however, when Dierk did, and >> when another user on another list did the same thing, it didn't >> trigger. Wonder if it has to do with the fact that there was text in >> the replies that didn't trigger the filter... Nah, i dunno and now to >> your other questions. DH> OK, I help you out by sending another request *without* text in the DH> body. See if it does what it should. The request that I sent and which triggered Krister's filter had text in it. Krister, does your filter have other string match requirements in it aside from the subject string match? DH> And I found something funny doing it: I deleted everything in the DH> message body and tried to put the message into the Outbox. Well, as DH> you can infer, I usually sign my messages automatically with PGP. DH> Now, the empty message did not go into the Outbox. PGP did sign it, DH> when I entered a random letter. So I disabled "Sign message ...", DH> and I could send it. That behaviour is confirmed here as well. DH> Did I find a bug in TB! or PGP? Or am I just stupidly missing DH> something vital to signing with PGP? Looks like PGP will not signed a message with nothing in the message body. - -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey - --- ** "Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. " Using TB! v1.47 Beta/7 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOedLUPAXeSHuB5k3EQLMEgCgwGQKrxT94sc1n7DyuU1tX6Zxd8IAoMDR BgYia+FA1X6h74OOEatft9P5 =PYiD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
