Re: SOT: RFC Headers
Thomas, On Saturday, September 18, 1999, at 17:40 you wrote: TF> The RFC headers have been mentioned quite often on this list. TF> Where can I read them up? To read up on RFC-822 (STANDARD FOR THE FORMAT OF ARPA INTERNET TEXT MESSAGES) which concerns e-mail, go here: <http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc822.html> To see the index for all of the RFCs, go here: <http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/INDEX.rfc.html> To read my newsletter article about RFCs, go here and select Edition #21 entitled "Request for Comments (RFC)": <http://0rdernet.com/VBOK/newsletter/vbok_newsletter_main.htm> A Windows utility is a virus with seniority... Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Filtering with OR - was Re: (No Subject)
Jack, On Saturday, September 18, 1999, at 22:15 you wrote: JL> Do I configure the filter string as JL> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] or JL> [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] or some other configuration? I JL> want the filter to detect either address. JL> Jack LaRosa mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When defining your filters, place the first e-mail address in the Rules/Strings Section, then click on the Alternatives tab, Click Add Set, Enter the second e-mail address in that strings box. The alternatives tab is the "OR" function. BTW, please use a SUBJECT header next time. Thanks. A "language" is a dialect with an army. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Mail to all address book entries
Julio, On Sunday, September 19, 1999, at 3:18 you wrote: JJ> I need to notify my correspondents of a change of address. How can JJ> I do it with TB? Simply, of course. JJ> Julio Hmmm, You might try this. Save your addressbook to a temp file. Open the temp file as your addressbook. Move all of the names into one group, create your message and address it to the group. No real elegant, but it will probably serve your needs. For the future however, you might want to go to http://www.netforward.com and get an e-mail address with them. It's a forwarding address (meaning any mail sent to it will be forwarded to whatever e-mail address you specify.) For example, my e-mail address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a permanent one. When I move or change ISPs, I don't have to notify anyone! All I need to do is go to Netforward's homepage and change the forwarded to e-mail address there. So how much does this service cost? Nothing, it's free. They used to append a two line string of text thanking you for using netforward.com, but I haven't seen it in any of my messages for a couple of months. Hope this helps! A belly button is for the seeds when you eat watermelon in bed. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Reading confirmation when I receive a message
Monbebe, On Tuesday, October 12, 1999, at 14:44 you wrote: MA> Sorry, I was not clear maybe. MA> I don't want a real autoresponder. I want a message to be send when the MA> mail as been read, I think when the small letter is opened. MA> If I do what you say, no problems, but in this case what means the check MA> box "Creating reading confirmation (if required)" in the "option" panel of MA> the filter box, or how to use it ? MA> Best regards, Ahhh, I see what you want now. Ok, first we'll take care of the easy part! Go to Account/Properties/Templates/Reading Confirmation and put whatever you want in your template to say that you have read their message. Now for the trick. The person sending you the e-mail *must* enable the reading confirmation flag on their end when creating the message. When they do that, and TB receives it, if that flag is enables, then TB will respond with the text you put in the reading confirmation template. (As long as you have the "Create reading confirmation if required" box checked.) If you want to be able to send a "I've read your message" response regardless of if they enabled the reading confirmation flag or not, then you should create a quick template under account/properties/templates/quick templates and put the same message as you had put in the reading confirmation template. Now, if someone sends you a message, but did not enable reading confirmation, then you can just reply to their message and use the quick template to put in your "I've read your message". HTH A Bajoran Tricorder is fast, accurate & good for hitting peoples heads. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Site with links
\\'alter, On Thursday, October 14, 1999, at 1:36 you wrote: a> Is there a site or are there any sites on which you can find lots a> of tricks and interesting stuff about The Bat! Except its homepage a> at ritlabs? Mmmm, kind of. There is an English TB FAQ (although very weak!) I am currently converting it to the new HTML format for my new web site. I plan on actually making it a nice FAQ soon, but trying to get the time to do it is killing me. However, you can see what I do have at the old site by going to: http://www.0rdernet.com/thebat/index.htm A Nobel Peace Prize? I'd kill for one of those. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: How to use the name prefix
Oliver, On Thursday, October 14, 1999, at 4:47 you wrote: OS> That seems to be it. Hm, nobody about USING that prefix for OS> something nice? OS> Oliver Sturm Hmmm, don't know if this is exactly what you want, but I set up new message templates for certain people in my addressbook. For example, my parents e-mail address entry in the addressbook has this as the new message template: *** Start *** Hey mom and dad, %CURSOR %COOKIE %PUT="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Includes\Dominant Sig.txt" *** End *** You could just as easily change the "Hey mom and dad," to say Mr. Dad or whatever. In addition, I made the nickname for the addressbook "dad", so all I do is type "dad" in the TO field, hit enter and then click in the message body. Other than that, I don't think TB actually uses the name prefix in the addressbook entry when creating a message. It is most likely just for informational purposes. A belly button is for the seeds when you eat watermelon in bed. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Site with links
Christopher, On Saturday, October 16, 1999, at 3:33 you wrote: >> However, you can see what I do have at the old site by going to: >> http://www.0rdernet.com/thebat/index.htm CJT> It seems to be no longer working. Oops, my bad. The address is: <http://www.0rdernet.com/VBOK/thebat/index.htm> A better way to DoubleSpace your disk: DEL C:\WINDOWS\*.* Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
OT: Language and Windows was - Re: ! and CJK
Thomas, On Saturday, October 16, 1999, at 0:20 you wrote: TF> I've never seen it, because everybody told me not to buy it. But I TF> know that there is also a Japanese/English Win98, because I know TF> someone who has the biggest troubles with it. Yeah, I'm using the Japanese/English version on my laptop. It's a bit more unstable than English Win98. A E I รพ U(I had a vowel movement) Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: OT: Language and Windows
Keith, On Sunday, October 17, 1999, at 15:14 you wrote: >> Yeah, I'm using the Japanese/English version on my laptop. It's a >> bit more unstable than English Win98. KR> So, Leif, do you read and write Japanese? Are you able to use it KR> with The Bat? KR> Keith Russell I can read and write Hiragana and Katakana (though that doesn't mean I know what the word I'm reading is), and I know some Kanji (very few actually.) I don't use it with TB (not even sure it would work), so I use Japanese Outlook to read/write Japanese. A cat will assume the shape of its container. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.biogate.com/vbok> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.biogate.com/TheBat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?
DOLIST, On Saturday, October 23, 1999, at 5:54 you wrote: DSI> Hello, DSI> THE BAT! already does most of the e-mail job, any chance to have DSI> newsgroup read/send. DSI> Think of it, all in one is better to switch between many software DSI> and Outlook/Communicator integrates both mail and news. This is where I think you will find the most disagreement. The majority of the list members (let me clarify that, the majority back when the list was on PCSInet, the demographics may have changed some since then.) Felt very strongly against incorporating other functions like news reading, and even HTML into TB. Yes Outlook and Communicator package all that stuff together, but they are both bloated pigs of software that don't do their jobs very well. A certain phrase comes to mind when thinking about these two software packages. "Jack of all trades, master of none." I would much rather use separate pieces of software that are "masters" than one kludged together bloated pig that can do a little bit of everything. For instance, here is my software use: Mail TB Usenet News Agent Browser Opera FTP Cute FTP D/L Manager Getright Pic ViewerACDSee TelnetCRT 3.0 IM/chat ICQ Chat mIRC Clipboard Clipmate Text Textpad 4 Online timer Logtime AVNorton Stocks/MF PSM C2C link Laplink Pro I'm sure my list will differ in areas from others (everybody has their favorites), but my point is that I don't want a piece of software that can only do a half job. I realize that for a great number of Internet/computer users, this may not be the case, because they don't push the envelope. A "Cashless God". Is THAT what they mean by "non Denominational" Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Missing Attachments
Keith, On Saturday, October 23, 1999, at 4:04 you wrote: KR> Hello, everyone. KR> Twice now, I have received messages with attachments, but the KR> attachment did not show up in TB. There was no attachment pane and KR> no attachment icon in the message list. Take another look at the massage in question. Do you see any tabs on the bottom of the message in preview mode? If so, click on the other tab(s) to see if it is there. If someone sends me an HTML message with an attachment, TB displays the HTML message, but I must click on the "1" tab to actually see the plain message with the attachments. Hopefully, this is the case, if not then I'm not sure what the problem is. Maybe you could post the headers to the list so we can try and see if something is wrong there. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat
Steve, On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, at 0:24 you wrote: >> Wouldn't do anything for me - I would never use automatic >> decryption or store decrypted mails. You never know who seizes your >> computer... SL> Flat out silly. I'm sorry, but there is no risk of anything from SL> automatically decrypting or verifying signatures. I think it is SL> absurd that TB! doesn't do that nor does it hide the PGP envelope. I would have to seriously disagree with you here Steve. My computer was seized in May for something I didn't do. That's why I wasn't around for some major list problems which necessitated the move to a new server. Thanks again to Marck and Syafril for picking up the ball and running with it in my absence. Even though none of my PGP encrypted messages had anything damaging or even important in them, I am glad that TB didn't automatically decrypt and/or store the decrypted versions. Just because you use PGP doesn't mean you're doing anything illegal, but private messages are just that... Private! If you just really have to have a decrypted softcopy, cut and paste works wonders. A belly button is for the seeds when you eat watermelon in bed. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: You're banned !
Steve, On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, at 3:04 you wrote: SL>> Monday, October 25, 1999, 9:56:51 AM, Mail wrote: >>> We are sorry to inform you that your e-mail ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >>> has been banned. This means that everytime you try to send >>> us e-mail - you will get this reply AUTOMATICLY! SL>>Ooo, ooo, ban me too, ban me too! M!! BAN ME!!! ROTFLMAO!!! You're killing me Steve!! A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 56651 errors, 1 CPS)" Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Haha, interesting "feature"
Hello users, I just accidentally hit the reply button to a message in my outbox and got to quote myself.. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?
Paula, On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, at 3:22 you wrote: PF> On Saturday, October 23, 1999, Leif Gregory wrote: PF> I think that the list members as a whole are probably not very PF> representative of the general user community and those who post PF> even less so. People who participate on mailing lists about PF> software tend to be more computer-oriented than most people. I agree completely, but I'm of the strong conviction that to have a voice, you must vote. If you just sit back and watch the world go by, then you have no right to object when things don't go your way. Kind of like being irritated with the outcome of an election when you didn't even vote. I realize that not everybody has the inclination or time to sit in on UDLs, but I'm sure the majority of the users on TBUDL have just as little time as anyone else. PF> People who express a desire for integrated functionality are PF> routinely hooted down on mailing lists and newsgroups, so that I PF> suspect that even among those who might be participating, they PF> might not be inclined to express their views. This is true also, however I have to admit that there is some logic to this. Most "wishes" are items that only benefit a very few people (such as my wish to have mailing list manager functions (as a plugin of course)). This isn't to say that if you have an idea that you shouldn't post it. In fact I wholeheartedly support just the opposite. There have been quite a few "wishes" that I hadn't thought of that make perfect sense. I do have to say that I wish more people were tolerant of "unpopular wishes". I want everyone to feel comfortable enough on this list that they can post without fear of getting slammed, although I also hope that these same people realize that not every rejection is a personal attack. You've been on this UDL since I started it way back when, and I think that you would have to agree that TB wouldn't be the great piece of software it is without us speaking up and presenting our ideas. My father once told me that "The answer is always *no* unless you ask. Things are always being improved by those who sought a better way of doing it." If you think it might be a better way, then ask! You might catch some flack, but hey, life goes on. PF> The other side of this argument is that the vast majority of users PF> use, will use, and probably need only a fraction of the capability PF> of a program. They don't need nor care about their software being PF> master of anything. They also don't think or care about "bloat". Exactly! That's why I say leave the bloatware pigs like IE and NN for those who don't know any better, or don't want to know better, and leave at least some applications as "masters" for those of us who do know better. The world is a big enough place that software can be written to support both factions. My point being (and I do have one) is that the savvy users shouldn't be forced to use crippled software just because *everybody* wants to cater to the non-savvy market. Computers are not going away, they will continue to become a more and more integral part of our daily lives. Computers aren't intuitive, and like the great majority of other skills in the world, they must be learned and practiced. PF> That's 15 programs with 15 different interfaces to learn and PF> remember, often for tasks that are not performed that frequently. PF> The commonality of interfaces and basic functions has benefits PF> that can't be totally dismissed out of hand. In an office PF> environment, this means less training costs, less support costs. I PF> believe it was the desire for this intergration in a corporate PF> setting that primarily motivated MS and Netscape to add and expand PF> the news reader capabilities of their mailers. For home users, PF> it's been my experience that many, maybe most, prefer integrated PF> applications, because they don't want to have to deal with PF> learning and maintaining many different applications. Plus there PF> is the cost. When I got tired of NS crashing on me all the time PF> and patched together my own suite of internet applications, it PF> ended up costing me a couple hundred dollars total. Oh, I agree with you, but what I stated before that not all software should be crippled just to serve the masses, still holds true. Personally, I have no problem with using 15 different applications, because it is a personal choice I have made to support only the best software. I'm not saying that the masses have to follow our lead and learn all these apps, they can stay with software that suits them (IE and NN etc...) and leave my applications alone. PF> Exactly. It is a niche market that appreciates and wants these PF> small, fast, highly
Wonder how they did that!
Hello users, Here's the entire kludges from an e-mail I received. Notice the absence of a TO, CC, etc. I Wonder how they suppressed them... Return-Path: <> Received: from nf4.netforward.com (nf4.netforward.com [204.57.67.249]) by www.subdimension.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13816 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:55:26 -0400 X-Forwarder: NetForward.com Received: from tc3T9V859 (P05-cj15.cjnetworks.com [199.240.71.6]) by boss.tnn.bg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02524; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:46:35 +0300 (EEST) DATE: 26 Oct 99 8:40:21 AM Message-ID: <25DeWtqI14> SUBJECT: Witches and Brews Status: Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: multiple EMail addresses / address book / favourite
Claudius, On Wednesday, October 27, 1999, at 22:59 you wrote: CR> I'd like to store multiple email addresses but I don't want them CR> to show up in "CC:" (using the favourites menu) - I just need to CR> store them _somewhere_ for special occasions. CR> Claudius Regn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I store extra e-mail addresses etc. on the "Other" tab of the contact entry in the "Memo" block. A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 56651 errors, 1 CPS)" Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Interesting solution to our problem
Hello users, I ran across this web site called www.takeitoffline.com, and their sole purpose for existence is to provide a very quickly set up "off-topic" discussion forum. For example, I created a takeitoffline forum for our very long running and very interesting OT thread about Computer Philosophy. It took me all of about 45 seconds. Here is the forum if you'd like to take a gander at it. I think this could be a very viable alternative to us moderators having to declare dead horses. BTW, this message is generated and sent to the creator of the forum once they finish creating it: ***** Leif Gregory has created a new instant discussion space at Take It Offline(SM) for the topic "Computer Philosophy". To join the conversation (or just to read it), use your browser to go to: http://www.takeitoffline.com/1/H/4viRW7m1UvfL6OA9eaY.html There's no need to register or enter a password, and you can choose to receive email for new replies. Take It Offline is the free instant personal discussion space for your topic of the moment. It's like many familiar web-based discussion forums, except that it's yours and dedicated to your specific topic. Use it for any single-topic group discussion! To find out more about it, or to easily start your own topic, visit: http://www.takeitoffline.com * Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Mysterious wish-list
Paula, I've e-mailed him twice directly so far to try and get a copy of the wishlist so that I could post it to the TBUDL FAQ page. I haven't gotten a response from him yet. On Sunday, November 21, 1999, at 1:28 you wrote: PF> Does "currently" mean that Alex is not working on it for now or PF> that he's abandoned the project? Does anyone have the last version PF> that was posted to the list? If so, I'd appreciate your e-mailing PF> me a copy. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Threading
Ali, On Tuesday, November 23, 1999, at 20:27 you wrote: AM>Paula Ford wrote: >> The FAQ is unofficial, too, and on Leif's site. If you send the >> shortcut list to him, perhaps he'll add it to his page. AM> Has Leif mysteriously disappeared again? Nope, I'm here, but for some reason, the list is seriously delaying my messages sometimes. I would definitely add the wish list to the FAQ. It will actually be pretty useful once I get my web site moved again. I seem to have been taken for a ride and then screwed by my last host. A Jury: 12 people who decide who has the best lawyer Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Can you help me!!!
LIU, Sure thing, go to the TBUDL FAQ at: http://216.149.14.37/thebat/howdoi.shtml Click 'Messages' and see the entry for corrupt message bases. On Monday, November 29, 1999, at 23:22 you wrote: LT> LT> Message base garbage detected. LT> Broken data is saved to LT> My all messages in inbox are missing!!! there have many LT> important date!! please help me to repair it! A "Cashless God". Is THAT what they mean by "non Denominational" Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
TBUDL/TBBETA FAQ
Hello users, Ok, I finally got off of my butt and got a long way with the FAQ. It is by no means finished, but I wanted you all to take a look at it and give me your feedback OFF-LIST! Does the navigation of it make sense? Are any of the entries incorrect or outdated? Many of the items in the FAQ were not actually experienced by me, so there may be something in there that has been fixed. Let me know if you find one. I tried very hard to give credit where credit was due. You'll find people's names above each "fix" in the FAQ. Sometimes it wasn't possible to find who the original contributor was, so I took the best educated guess. I also tried to keep as much as possible, the actual message intact, but some of them required formatting, punctuation, grammar, spelling, and contextual additions. If you disagree with how I listed your contribution, please let me know. I tried to use contributions based on who posted it first, but there were a few that I used later postings because they were more complete or easier to understand. If you don't have a problem with it, I would like to make your name in the FAQ a link to your e-mail address. However, I will need your permission to do this. There was one exception in which I already put in the e-mail address, because his contribution included directions for him sending a Perl script. If this is not acceptable, please let me know and I'll remove it. I am sure there are a good number of other things that need to go into this FAQ. If you have a contribution, please send it to me. However, try to remember that FAQ stands for *frequently* asked questions. This FAQ would become quite unmanageable if we put *everything* in it. There will eventually be a CGI form for people to send entries to me. Also, don't link to this FAQ quite yet as I am waiting for the DNS entries to pick up my domain name. Right now you can see it at: http://216.149.14.37/thebat/faq.shtml Once I get the DNS entries resolved, it will become: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Well, that should do it. I'm looking forward to your feedback. BTW, I have tried repeatedly to contact Alexander Leschinsky to get a copy of the latest Wish list to post to the FAQ also. However, I haven't heard anything from him. If someone knows where he is, or has a pretty recent edition of the wish list, please send it to me. If Alexander is not going to continue with the wish list, would anyone out there be willing to become the sacred keeper of said wish list? I also need a copy of the latest keyboard shortcuts list out there. Whoever is the keeper of that one, please send it to me so I can put it in the FAQ. Ok, ok, I'm done. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
TB as a mailing list server
Hello users, For those of you interested in setting up TB as a mailing list server/discussion list server, I've rewritten quite a bit of my original whitepaper on how to do it, as well as included some of the new features TB has added since the last writing. You can get it at the FAQ page under howdoi. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Another FAQ note!
Hello users, It's official! For those of you wanting to link to the FAQ, the address is: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/4 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Happy99/SKA virus/worm fix from moderator was - Re: Network Problems
Mike, Oh man... Ok, if anybody ran the attachment to Mike's last post called Happy99.exe, please read the below article I wrote for my e-zine when Happy99/SKA first appeared. It explains what you need to do to get rid of it. If any of you did run the Happy99.exe attachment, shame on you. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER run any attachment that you don't know what it is. Hopefully your virus scanner definitions were up to date and you were not infected. As for Mike, you really need to update your virus definition files, or install a virus scanning package if you don't have one already. Start article Name: Happy99/SKA Category: Worm What it does: A non-destructive self replicating program that modifies the infected computer's WSOCK32.DLL. This modification allows SKA to attach itself to outgoing e-mail messages and newsgroup posts in an attempt to further replicate itself. What to look for: 1. If you ran a program (most likely called Happy99.exe, but it could have been named anything) and you were presented with a cheesy fireworks display with the window title of "Happy New Year 1999!!", then you were most likely infected. 2. If recipients of e-mail from you say that they are receiving two copies of your messages and one of them has an attachment called "Happy99.exe", then you are definitely infected. 3. McAfee VirusScan and Norton AntiVirus both now detect the SKA worm. 4. Navigate to your Windows/System directory and look for any file named SKA. In particular SKA.EXE and WSOCK32.SKA. How to fix it: 1. Print these steps first. 2. Reboot into DOS mode. 3. Type CD\Windows\System 4. Type DIR SKA.* You should a file called SKA.EXE 5. Type DEL SKA.* 6. Type DIR WSOCK32.* You should see two files; WSOCK32.DLL and WSOCK32.SKA. If you do *not* see WSOCK32.SKA, then skip to step 12. 7. Type REN WSOCK32.DLL SKAWSOCK32.DLL 8. Type REN WSOCK32.SKA WSOCK32.DLL 9. Try to connect to the Internet, send yourself an e-mail. If everything seems to work fine then: 10. Type DEL SKAWSOCK32.DLL 11. You are all done. 12. Something isn't quite right. You should probably reload the file WSOCK32.DLL from a reliable source. One such reliable source would be <http://solo.abac.com/dllarchive/W/wsock32.zip>. Note - You will need an unZIP program such as WINZIP or PKUNZIP to uncompress the file first. 13. Do step 7 and come back to here. 14. Unzip the WSOCK32.ZIP file which will contain the file called WSOCK32.DLL into your Windows\System directory. 15. Try to connect to the Internet, send yourself an e-mail. If everything seems to work fine, then do step 10 and 11. If everything is not fine, then continue to step 16. 16. Type DEL WSOCK32.DLL 17. Type REN SKAWSOCK32.DLL WSOCK32.DLL 18. Your system is now still using the modified WSOCK32.DLL. Send me an e-mail and I'll try to help you further. Hopefully you didn't have to do step 12 as it was more work, and I really hope you didn't have to do 16 - 18 as that is going to be a headache. Other than that, you are now SKA free!!! A bottle in front of me's better than a frontal lobotomy. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Happy99/SKA virus/worm fix from moderator was - Re: Network Problems
John, I think you are forgetting something though. The message sent to the list had Happy99.exe UUencoded, therefore a separate file was not saved to the attach directory. If you want to see NAV go red with warnings, right click the Happy99.exe file in the e-mail and try to save it (provided you have auto-protect enabled. I not, then save the file and then scan the directory.) I've using NAV version 5.0 with definition dates of: 99/11/29 On Friday, December 03, 1999, at 17:56 you wrote: J> Leif, J> Thursday, Thursday, December 02, 1999, Leif wrote: J> Just to keep us on our toes, Norton has failed to identify the J> Happy99/SKA attachment, even with up to date definitions. I checked J> to be sure that the definitions contained the information and then J> ran NAV, which scanned right past the worm. I also updated the J> definitions on the assumption that there might be something flaky J> about the definition. NAV still missed it. So, we might want to be J> very cautious about depending on NAV. J> JWDoughertymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A Wok is what you thwo at a wabbit. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
OT: Re: Happy99/SKA virus/worm fix from moderator was
Syafril, On Friday, December 03, 1999, at 20:47 you wrote: SH> Sorry Leif, I have other opinion. AFAIK Happy99.exe is a Trojan SH> Virus (Hoax ?) Happy99.exe is not a hoax, and due to its propagation properties, it is actually considered a worm. See McAfee's web page concerning SKA/Happy99.exe at: http://vil.mcafee.com/vil/vpe10144.asp SH> which infected to mailer with MAPI capable such SH> Outlook97/98/2000, Outlook Express 4/5, Exchange Client. This is also false. SKA directly patches the WSOCK32.DLL and makes hooks to any SMTP or News activities. This allows SKA to "infect" any outgoing message that is sent via SMTP or usenet news. SH> Luckyly The Bat! not MAPI capable, yet; in the next version if The SH> Bat! have MAPI capability, we also must aware with this kind of SH> viruses (Mike not use The Bat! at the first time sending msg with SH> Happy99.exe) MAPI has nothing to do with it, because SKA is not MAPI dependent. SH> Trojan or hoax viruses can't be detected by "common anti virus" SH> such McAfee or NAV, just like "macro viruses" it's need special SH> treatment. This is also false, NAV and McAfee now include signatures for SKA. SKA will be detected by either moving, copying, renaming, saving, opening etc. as well as a the normal directory/disk scan. My point to John was that neither NAV nor McAfee will scan a UUencoded file in messages in TB, or at least I am not aware that it can. For NAV to detect SKA, the file must be UUdecoded and saved (or attempted to save) to disk. SH> There are a lot of Happy99.exe anti virus removement at SH> www.winfiles.com This I agree completely with, however, they all basically automate the steps that I discussed on removing it. A Nobel Peace Prize? I'd kill for one of those. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
SOT: E-mailaholics - was Re: Check out the Christmas Bat!
Paula, Funny you should mention E-mailaholics. On the TBBETA list, Ali just started E-mailaholics Anonymous (EMA) (pronounced like you're going to say E-mail but without the "il"). Members have their membership proudly announced in the Organization header. However, unlike other *aholics Anonymous groups, we don't want to be cured... Stay tuned.. We are working out the EM questionnaire and rating scale (to determine the severity of your case) as well as the EM creed. On Thursday, December 09, 1999, at 10:05 you wrote: PF> And .. TB is on sale for $24.50. Great gift for the email-aholic PF> on your list. PF> -- PF> Paula Ford A $ saved is a $ congress has overlooked! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Wishes about filters
Paula, I agree with you on this one. This is done in the address book in reference to groups, don't see why it couldn't be done in the filters section too. On Thursday, December 09, 1999, at 6:46 you wrote: PF> Agreed. Actually, I would prefer a structure that allowed you to PF> create filter first, then indicate to which accounts it applies. PF> But, that's a different approach altogether. I would think it PF> wouldn't be too difficult, though, to show all accounts in the PF> Sorting Office, as TB calls it. We'll see what RIT Labs comes up PF> with in v. 2. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: SOT: E-mailaholics - was Re: Check out the Christmas Bat!
Paula, On Saturday, December 11, 1999, at 11:48 you wrote: >> However, unlike other *aholics Anonymous groups, we don't want to >> be cured... PF> We don't??? Maybe some of us do. Well, at least those in *our* E-mailaholics group don't want to be cured. PF> If you don't want to be cured, what is the objective of your 12 PF> steps? 12 steps to yet more and more e-mail? No, not twelve steps, It's the five levels of EMness. A "pacifist male" is a contradiction in terms. - Lazarus Long Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: SOT: E-mailaholics
Angel, Pretty simple actually. Edit the properties for your folder for TBUDL messages. Click the "Identity" tab, put: "E-mailaholics International" in the Organisation field. If you want everyone in the the world to know, then edit the account properties and put it in the Organisation field there. This means that any message you send from that account will announce your EMness (unless you later override it with a folder defined Organisation.) On Monday, December 13, 1999, at 0:50 you wrote: LG>>> Well, at least those in *our* E-mailaholics group don't want to be LG>>> cured. A> How does one go about joining ? A> Regards, A> ~~~Angel A 3.5 disk should fit in a 5.25 drive, right? Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
STOP testing Paula's bug! - was Re: The Bat! - bug report
Martin, Ok, ok, we all agree that Paula has found a bug. Now everybody stop testing it. We could have avoided many of these messages if the defer mailing option was enabled prior to testing. Thank you. On Monday, December 13, 1999, at 17:59 you wrote: PF>> Try this. From the messages list in the main window, highlight a PF>> message, press and hold the CTRL key, then press and _hold_ the PF>> ENTER key. I just managed to generate 7 replies to your messages PF>> that showed up in the Outbox before a reply window appeared. The PF>> interface flashes some and the icons disappear from the tool bars PF>> while this is going on. I think I've got the latest version of PF>> 1.38 now, too. I don't believe it happened before this version. PF>> I'm interested in whether or not anyone can get TB to behave this PF>> way, as I use an old keyboard and am wondering if the problem PF>> could be related to that. I'm also on the old Win95a. A Most Dangerous Thing - an Ensign with a warp field experiment. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Putting a face to the name
Hello users, I will finally have the time to do something I've always wanted to do. I want to create a page in the FAQ that includes the pictures of the list members. These images will be cropped to the right size so that they can be saved to your hard drive and used in TBs address book. For those of you wishing to participate, do the following: e-mail me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and attach your jpeg that is cropped to 120x144. Please already have it in jpeg format and sized to 120x144, as this will put less of a workload on me. However, for those of you who do not know how or do not have an image editing program to do this (I'd image anyone who can scan in their image will already), send the image to me and I'll do it. I'd prefer not to have to though. Also, for those who do not have any access whatsoever to a scanner, you can send me a picture via snailmail. E-mail me and I'll send you my address. Please note though, if you want your picture back, you *must* include a self-addressed envelope *with* a stamp on it inside the letter you send me. Either way, make sure you include your name and the e-mail address you want to use, as you want it to appear on the page. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: OT: Curses
MaXxX, On Wednesday, December 15, 1999, at 4:50 you wrote: M> C'mon, English has only a few words that form compound expressions M> - f**k, s**t, and a few anatomy-related ones. Polish, in turn, has M> MANY words. A simple "f**k off" can be translated in... let me M> count... five different ways. Shall we exchange experience, then? M> :DD Ok, we've had this discussion on TBBETA, and here is the results from that. Because the subscriber base of TBUDL and TBBETA is so diverse demographically, I made it a rule when I started these two UDLs that profanity is not allowed. Personally, I could care less, but my personal preferences aren't representative of the entire list. I've now included in the rule that acronyms and wildcarded profanity is also prohibited. Why? s**t! Is there any doubt in anyones mind of what the preceding word means? It doesn't matter that two letters are wildcarded as the meaning is still the same. I realize that you can't please everyone, but we have to do the best we can with what we've got. A similar discussion ensued quite a while back, over the use of derogatory or demeaning taglines. More specifically they concerned the use of taglines offensive to the female list members. Again, this is also "against the rules". The best way to make the determination is to think "Would I say this to my mother?" Granted, some of your mothers may be a little more liberal than mine, but if the text is questionable, then don't include it. Thanks. A blood alcohol level of > .26 confers temporary immortality. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: hard overquoting
Hey all, On Monday, December 13, 1999, at 9:06 you wrote: VP> I dunno if it is a very difficult job for a moderator, but if we VP> have so many offtop threads on TBUDL (I don't really mind) - VP> could you please ask privately some users not to overquote. I've been receiving quite a few off-list e-mail concerning the overquoting issue. I've pretty much shouted this till I'm blue in the face! So, to go a little bluer still: When replying to a message, please try to cut out any quoted text that you can while still retaining enough that people will know what it is that you are replying to. TBUDL and TBBETA have become high traffic lists now, and every little bit helps, not to mention that it makes it much easier to read. Help me to help you. If someone is overquoting, send them a kindly reminder off-list. There are way too many messages for me to do this alone. Thanks. A bellybutton is for parking your gum on the way down. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.
Hello Marck,
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 00:49:50 [GMT +], you wrote:
MDP> If you look at the opening of this message, you see the result of
MDP> using two %QTINCLUDEs for (1) the initial REGEXP extract macro
MDP> and (2) the pattern expansion macros to create the time stamp.
MDP> Marck
Here is a copy of my QT for this whole deal:
* Start *
Hello %OFROMFNAME,
%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS"
On%SUBPATT="2" at %SUBPATT="3" [GMT%SUBPATT="4"], you wrote:
%CURSOR%QUOTES
%SINGLERE
* END *
Here is a copy of my reply template:
* Start *
%QINCLUDE="replydate"
%PUT="C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Includes\TB Sig.txt"
Using The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME
%WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION
on a Pentium 266 with 64MB.
%COOKIE
%SINGLERE
* END *
Leif Gregory
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Preliminary Interview questions for RIT Labs
Hello users, Below is the rough draft for the interview I will be holding with the RIT Labs people. If you can think of any questions you'd like answered, then please send them to me at: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=Interview> Please ensure that you do *not* send your inputs to the list. Check the TO field before sending. Also, please try not to submit wish list questions. I've asked what wish list items are going to be addressed in the interview, and including them in the interview would make it way too unwieldy. Well, here are the questions: - Why did you decide to write an e-mail client package? - Did you base it from another e-mail client package? - Why did you choose the name "The Bat!"? - How is RIT Labs structured? Who works there? Is it an office type setting or do you do most of the work from home? - Did you imagine that TB would be this successful? Now the questions everyone has been waiting for... Everything below this paragraph concerns version 2.0. - Are there many changes to the GUI? If so, do you have a couple of screenshots for us to see? - v2.0 is rumored to have been built from the ground up (not from version 1.x), is this true? - Will v2.0 be backwards compatible? Meaning if someone has problems with it, can they reinstall v1.x and still have all of their messages, filters, and acccounts accessible? - When will the beta be released? - Is there a planned port to Linux? Will you charge for it? - v2.0 is rumored to support 3rd party plugins. Is this true? How will they be implemented (.dll or scripted etc.) - How extensive will the plugin support be? Meaning, can new menu items, macros, functions etc. be added? - Are there any changes to the filtering subsystem? For example, grouping of like filters, copying filters between accounts etc. - Are there any changes to the address book? i.e. Different address book support for different accounts. - Will v2.0 support non-fixed width fonts? - Will v2.0 support customizable kludges? i.e. X- like X-Website: http://www.pcwize.com - v2.0 is rumored to allow us to redefine shortcut keys. Is this true? Can we create new shortcut key combinations? - Will we be able to customize our toolbar? Will it allow us to add new buttons, or can we only use the buttons/functions already in place? - There is a rumor floating around that TB will include a usenet news reader. Is this true? If so, why have you decided to do this? How much overhead (bloat) will this add. - Version 2.0 is rumored to support scripting. Can you give us an example of a short script? - Will we be able to use scripting in templates to create things like our own macros? Meaning, can we call scripts (like the %include macro), or must they be inlined in every template we want to use them in? - How extensive is the scripting? Can we call other programs to perform functions. For example (I'm just making this up), suppose we want to launch our browser whenever a message includes a URL. I know the filters currently support this (sort of) in that you can call an external program on the actions tab, but can we pass different types of variables (or is that what the %regexp macro stuff is for?) - Will the scripting support error control? For example, will it address the long standing bug of not checking an address book group to see if an address actually exists before performing the "remove address book entry" function on the actions tab in filters? - Will version 2.0 fully support HTML both in sending, and viewing href'd images? How will you handle the issue of unscrupulous web site developers stealing our e-mail addresses when TB gets the href'd image? i.e. http://www.eff.org/pub/Privacy/Profiling/19991202_joint_profiling_pressrel.html - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? - Will v2.0 fully support MAPI? - How big (filesize) do you expect v2.0 to be? - How much do you expect v2.0 to cost? How much will the upgrade from v1.x cost? - How many of the items on the wish list are going to be addressed in v2.0 that I didn't cover above? One of the main reasons that I have spent so much time and effort in supporting you guys is that you really listen to what your users have to say. I think that I speak for the rest of the TB community when I say that as long as you continue to support us, we will support you in every way we can! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to th
Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 18:27:14 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> You froze my Bat! - Here is what I did: LG>> %QINCLUDE="replydate" TF> I only copied this line into my existing reply template. TF> [...] Let's see a cut and paste of your reply template. Is this reply template your global, address book, or folder level? I use mine for both global and folder. I don't have any address book reply templates. TF> I hit "reply": the Bat froze. No response whatsoever, while the TF> "reply" botton was still "pressed". Hmm, I mean I just used the replydate setup to respond to this message. I'm not having any trouble. After you were forced to reboot, does TB behave in the same manner when you try to reply? Maybe it was a glitch and your box needed a reboot. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETAT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. A "program" is used to create error messages! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: possible bug
Hello Roel, On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 14:04:55 [GMT +0100], you wrote: R> can anybody confirm this? R> when i collapse an account, select it (without expanding it) and R> hit the F2-key (or using the mouse), I always get: 'server reports R> error: the respons is: Nope, I don't have any problems checking collapsed accounts using the F2 key for either POP or IMAP accounts. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETAT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. A "user friendly" program doesn't have a 600 page manual! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.
Hallo Thomas, On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 21:01:27 [GMT +0800], you wrote: GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 10:01:27 PM (GMT+0800) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Well, this is it... This is your template! I cut and pasted it into a folder level template for reply. I added the %QINCLUDE="replydate" to right under Hallo %OFROMNAME, Now, I did have to do some serious editing, because the replydate QT already has the below macros in it, therefore you don't need them in your reply template: Hello %OFROMFNAME, %QUOTES %CURSOR %SINGLERE Try only putting the below in your folder level template: Start %QINCLUDE="replydate" Cheers, %FromFName mailto:%FromAddr Message reply created with The Bat! %THEBATVERSION under Chinese %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION Build %WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER %WINDOWSCSDVERSION using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM END TF> Hallo Leif, TF> On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:03:55 +0900 GMT your local time, TF> which was Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 8:03:55 PM (GMT+0800) my local time, TF> Leif Gregory wrote: -- Cheers, Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.38e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366 Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Solution to %DATE and %TIME macro problem.
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 15 Dec 1999 at 22:17:41 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> What have we learned: you can call a QT from within a QT. :-) TF> Problem solved. Thanks for your help. Well, at least you found out something valuable for all of your troubles. Nested QTs might come in handy. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETAT List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium 266 with 64MB. A 486 makes more errors than an XT in the same time... -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Problem with filtering
Hello Marcel, On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 at 09:07:41 [GMT +0100], you wrote: MS> I read the FAQ on the web, but there is no topic on filtering. MS> Any help is very much appreciated. You must have missed the section on using TB as a mailing list server that I wrote a while back (however, I just updated it as of a month ago). It will answer every question about using TB for mailing list servers you have. <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml> Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: We are NOT surrounded. We're just in a target-rich environment. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Check This Out
Hello Lone-Wolf, On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 at 06:24:12 [GMT +1100], you wrote: b>> take my word click on the link... you won't be disappointed!!! LW> How did this spammer get on? My guess is that they subscribed just like everyone else. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: PROOF TECHNIQUE #2 - 'Proof By Contradiction' State your theorum wait for someone to disagree. Contradict them. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Check This Out
Hello Steve, On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 at 11:23:57 [GMT -0800], you wrote: >> He spammed us and, for that sin, is condemned to read our ramblings >> until he rescinds his address. SL> Oooo, bad, bd idea. Personally, if I were ever on the end of SL> that I'd just setup a filter, strip out all headers, recreate SL> random ones and bounce it back to random members of the list. ;) Hey now! Don't give the guy any ideas! :^) Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: He's not stupid; he's possessed by a retarded ghost. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Addition to wish list
Hello users, I like the kill filters, but thought of something that would be useful (to at least me anyway.) Currently we can only search for strings in the following headers: Originator Subject Routing I'd like to be able to search the kludges in their entirety. What I'm looking for is this: People are constantly sending me funny movies and images, some of which are somewhat large ( > 1MB ). The problem is that I usually end up getting copies of the same one from multiple people. I want to be able to search the kludges for the filename and kill off that. That way, once I receive the first copy, I can set up the kill filter to kill any messages with the same filename. Therefore, I only get one copy and don't have to waste my connection time getting it again. I know I can use the message dispatcher, but I get over 150 e-mail a day, and it would be too much work to have to do this each time I check e-mail (about 50,000,000,000 times a day.) :^) What do you all think? Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Guillotining him would make only an aesthetic difference. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
SPAM about alladvantage
Hello users, Well, it was bound to happen eventually. Hopefully, it will be an isolated incident and we can resume our spam-free list. It's done this well over the last year and a half, so I expect it to continue to do so. Below is a copy of the SPAM report I sent to alladvantage.com. They have been pretty good in the past about removing accounts for spammers. If he did get anyone to sign up under his referrer id, he's about to lose them all. Begin I am the list owner and moderator of the The Bat! User's Discussion List (TBUDL) and The Bat! Beta Testers (TBBETA). A person using the alladvantage refid=GGO737 spammed both of my lists on 4 Jan 2000. This particularly irritated me, because for a message to be posted to either list, you must first subscribe to the lists, acknowledge your intent to subscribe in a replied message, and then read the subscription rules to get the actual list posting address. What I'm getting at here, is that this was very, very deliberate. I thank you very much for your time. End Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Inspected by #13. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Rogue Gallery
Hello users, I've got most of the rogue gallery done, but I need more user pics. I've only got six so far. e-mail me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and attach your jpeg that is cropped to 120x144. I think we really need Steve Lambs pic so that anyone getting into an argument with him can print it out and use it for dart practice! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Sort of like an inverse Einstein. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Rogue Gallery
Hello Carsten, It could be done, but I'm not sure how well that would go over with the privacy issue (although they've given me permission to use their photo and e-mail address on the rogues gallery page.) On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 at 14:39:14 [GMT +0100], you wrote: CD> In that case, is an address book all ready-made going to be made CD> available for d/l somewhere? (Yes, I'm a lazy bastard! ;] ) Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A room temperature IQ. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
IMAP - was Re: Digest (01/05/2000 12:18) Special Issue (#2000-171)
Hello Flower12uk, I haven't tried it with services like AOL etc., but I do have an IMAP4 account through www.subdimension.com (a free e-mail service, although it isn't the most reliable.) IMAP works well enough on there. On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 at 05:08:19 [GMT EST], you wrote: Fac> Let me tackle this another way has anyone used TB! with any other Fac> service that uses the IMAP4 protocol and got it to work? The fact Fac> that TB! has IMAP4 support must mean it was built to work with it Fac> surely? Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: $HOME = /dev/null. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Rogues Gallery
Hello users, Ok, the rogues gallery is up! http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.shtml I still need more pics! The offer is still open to those who don't have a scanner. Just e-mail me and I'll give you my mailing address, and I'll scan the photo for you (for free even! ). Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Inspected by #13. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
SOT AltGr - was Re: TB as a full featured text editor
Hello Jast, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 at 20:00:01 [GMT +0100], you wrote: J> (except that you can use AltGr for Ctrl-Alt optionally) Ok, ok, I've had it!!! I've never heard of an AltGr key before in my life until about two weeks ago when I got my new (English) laptop and low and behold, there is an AltGr key on it. What is it for? It seems to function just like the ALT key on the left of my spacebar. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: If what you don't know can't hurt you, she's practically invulnerable. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Steve, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 at 21:26:33 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> Uhm, they're going to release a browser that is smaller, faster, SL> more compliant than Opera and do so free across Windows, OS/2, SL> Linux, BeOS and a few others? If not, I'd suggest removing Opera SL> from that list since it is one of the rare pieces of software I've SL> found that is worth the price and is *VERY* hard to beat. If their browser is as functional (power-wise), and is priced roughly the same as TB is, then I think Opera can be beat! My browser of choice is Opera too, but I'm always on the lookout for something better. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: You can listen to thunder and tell how close you came to getting hit. If you don't hear it, you got hit, so never mind. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: question about the serial numbers
Hello Allgaeu, On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 at 22:33:44 [GMT +0100], you wrote: ABUG> Sometimes the X-Mailer shows "The Bat! (v1.38e) S/N ", ABUG> sometimes the edition is also displayed. Example: "The Bat! ABUG> (v1.38e) S/N / Personal". ABUG> I'm just interested in: does this depend on the creator of the ABUG> key or of the date? I believe it depends on when your key was created. Those whose x-mailer shows no edition, registered quite a while back. I'm not sure when they started including the edition, but it was well after I had gotten my registration key. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A room temperature IQ. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
RITLABS interview almost...
Hello users, Ok, I've gotten the interview results back from RITLABS. We're working out some clarifications to the questions and answers, but I expect to post the completed interview to the list in a couple of days. Now to tease you all some... Version 2.x is gonna wipe the walls with the other e-mail software currently out there (including TB v1.x!) Now for a very cryptic teaser... Can you say good-bye to IE, NN, and Opera?!? We'll be seeing some very interesting software developments coming from RITLABS in the near future! nah-nah nah-nah nah-nahh I've got the answers and you don't!! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Steve, If you are referring to the MDI as in the multiple window in a single instance of Opera, then heck no! That alone is the single most important reason I use Opera. I hated having to open 7 or 8 instances of IE or NN. When I browse, I do so with many, many windows. On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 at 08:34:39 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> The only way that I see anything RITLABS doing to "improve" upon SL> Opera would be to remove the MDI interface, remove the email SL> client and news reader and be more compatible with java script SL> while making it even smaller. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Percussive maintenance - The fine art of slapping the crap out of an electronic device to get it in working order again. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Steve, Apparently, I used bad wording! RITLABS is writing a completely separate browser application. However, some of the code will be included in TB as either core or plugin (most likely) to read and write HTML. Sorry for any confusion. On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 at 08:39:25 [GMT -0800], you wrote: >> Guys, I have this dim feeling they're not even talking about a browser >> here, rather some radically different piece of software... Maybe? SL> If it is some sort of internet "suite", it has been done and has SL> failed each time because it ends up being a bloated, SL> unintelligible pig. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Ought to have a warning label on his forehead. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: All About TheBat
Hello Erik, On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 at 16:59:07 [GMT +0100], you wrote: EO> In an attempt to give an addition to the current mailinglist, EO> we've proceeded to set up a powerful Forum exclusive to TheBat! Appreciate your effort. I don't know whether it will be viable, but give it a shot. I debated very heavily in the beginning (when wanting to create TBUDL) as to whether it would be easier to do the UDL or a newsgroup. While it would have been simpler in the long run to do the newsgroup, I chose the UDL because I had more control (TBUDL was heavily moderated in the very beginning). The only thing that I really needed was a message archive (you sort of get a time based capability of this with a newsgroup), but I knew that somewhere down the road I'd find a listserver that would allow me to keep a message archive. Thanks to Syafril, that happened. The problem with a newsgroup is no access control. Spam is too hard to control. In the couple of years that TBUDL has been active, I can only think of one instance of SPAM (a week ago I think). Geez, where the heck am I going with this Oh yeah, my point... I think most people would rather get their mail via list than be forced to view it on-line. I know that I D/L all my mail in the morning and read it at lunch while at work (no Internet access). A newsgroup (although messages can be D/L'd) or a forum would be difficult for most. As I said earlier though, I do appreciate the effort. There is a lot of user support and volunteer effort for TB. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: while( !asleep() ) sheep++; -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Defenders! - was Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat! with extra paradigms!
Hello Moosebreath, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 at 17:23:48 [GMT -0800], you wrote: M> I will say the TB users are some of the most tenacious users and M> defenders of their software I have come across. Here, here, I'll drink to that! Would this qualify as a "me too" message? Bad Leif, bad, bad Leif! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A am Bill D. Catt of Borg. You will be Ack!Thbbpt!imilated!!! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Newbie Stuff
Hello Moosebreath, On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 at 11:12:57 [GMT -0800], you wrote: M> I used to be able to edit a message and save it where it sits, M> doesn't look like a way to do that. Not supported in v1.x, however a workaround is to drag to the Outbox, edit, and move it back. Unfortunately this changes the date however. v.2 might support this. Not sure though. M> I'd like to be able to set up multiple accounts (I have 4), and use M> 1 set of mailbox folders with the option of using specific ones M> inside the other accounts. Mmmm, your talking the personalities thing. While this isn't supported directly, you can have filters under each account to file messages into one single account, specific folders. Further each of those folders can have it's own identity settings (folder properties). You can also set up Quick Templates to catch those odd messages that don't really fit anywhere. M> I see there is HTML support but when an HTML page comes into email, M> it doesn't look like what was sent, E-C-O (Eudora, Calypso, and M> Outlook) display as a web page. I know I'll get flak here, but I M> would like to see an HTML toolbar and the ability to display the M> page the way it was sent. When you subscribe to things nowadays, M> sometimes you're given a choice of HTML of plain text but most of M> the time not at all, you get HTML. Email and HTML have to mix M> nowadays. Currently, TB does not display images unless they were sent with the actual HTML page (not href'd to a site.) v2 will fully support HTML reading and writing at some point once work on RITLABS browser begins. Not sure what you mean by HTML toolbar, but I'm assuming that you mean to edit messages. This will come later in v2, hopefully as a plugin) M> I'd like to select which account to send the email from (down M> arrow) in the send mail when I'm about to send it, not have to send M> it from the account I'm editing in. This is already possible to a certain extent. When editing a message, click the TO field and hit the down arrow at the far right. You can then select which ACCOUNT to send it from. REPLY-TO is the same way. M> I'd like to see a "preview" on the toolbar next to the print M> button. And a "right click" on the toolbar to customize it. Not sure about the preview button (however, generally what I see on screen is what I print (not sure abt HTML messages as I haven't printed any). The toolbar will be extremely customizable in v2. M> Some small stuff like "change case", "wrap, unwrap", "remove quotes M> in message" etc. v2 will do this and much, much more via scripting and/or plugins. M> The ability to work with sentences or paragraphs or both. When M> I'm composing a message, tell me which mailbox I'm in, in case M> the gray cells get lost. Hmmm, not sure what you're asking here. M> If some of the things are here, sorry for the babble. My own opinion M> is that if you don't ask for it, it's doesn't get put in. You are absolutely correct. You'll find though that the majority of us are very happy with the core TB program (minus bugs of course) and want to keep it the small/svelte program it currently is. We did get one major wish, and that was for plugin support, so if you can find someone to write it, you can make TB do everything but the dishes. Now there's a plugin! Send e-mail from work: To: My house Subject: Do dishes :^) M> Now, if one of you rant and rave types wants to tear into me, just M> go back to the list and consider me a newbie that hasn't got a M> grip. on it yet! We all gotta start somewhere. Hopefully nobody ripped you too bad. M> I love the power of TB! and I'm here to stay, just like a few more M> amenities. This ain't army chow, it's gourmet stuff. Glad to see that you like it. We love it! M> By the way, Capitol "C" gets the misspell line under it in Eudora too. Add it to the user dictionary Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Always sharpening his sleeping skills. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Newbie Stuff
Hello Steve, Steve, play nice will you! The idea is to help, not tell them to take a hike! On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 at 03:57:49 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> This is the personalities paradigm. It isn't here and hopefully SL> never will. Go elsewhere. >> you get HTML. Email and HTML have to mix nowadays. SL> No, they do not. Don't like it, look elsewhere. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 1200 baud brain attached to a 28800 baud mouth. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Why does unsub go to list? - was Re: (No Subject)
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 01:26:57 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> When you double-click on the unsubscribe link, the message is for TF> some reason sent to both UNSUB and the list. I don't know why. Easy enough. Most people have the Create New message template for their TBUDL folder to address the list. By double-clicking on the unsub address within the TBUDL folder, you are effectively creating a new message. Therefore, both the list address and the unsub address show up in the TO field. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: ...Good judgment comes from experience; and experience, well... that comes from bad judgment. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Mailing List filters
Hello Nick, On Sun, 9 Jan 2000 at 11:34:57 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA> If version 2 is anything like Leif claims it is, then I'll also be NA> able to relegate Netscape to back-up as Ack,ack... foul.. misquote (or bad wording on my part!) I did not mean to imply that TB2 will be a browser! RITLABS is going to write a browser! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Sort of like an inverse Einstein. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 15:05:22 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:52:51 +0900GMT (10/01/2000, 07:52 TF> +0800GMT), Leif Gregory wrote a lot of stuff that resulted in a TF> lot of assumptions... Cute.. :^) TF> Enough teasing - when can we read the interview? ;-) Not yet, I haven't gotten the final back from Stefan where I asked a few more questions, and for clarification on some comments he made. I expect very soon though. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A belly button keeps you butt from falling off. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
SOT: Mr. Congeniality - was Re: Newbie Stuff
Hello Steve, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 08:30:42 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> When suggestions are made that radically change how the product SL> works which will cause current customers to leave the install SL> base, what reaction do you advocate then? I also disagree with a number of proposed changes to the TB core. However, if we aggressively shoot down everything that comes down the pipe, then someone who might actually have a very good suggestion might not post it. I'm not asking you to keep your opinion to yourself... I'm asking for a little more congeniality. In a perfect world, newbies would read the FAQ as well as search the message archive, but you've had as much customer support experience as I've had, and you know that this will never happen. Somebody has got to give. We've got a lot of very smart and good people on this list (including you), newbies will always be, well, newbies. We all had to start somewhere, and when I was the newbie, I always appreciated those patient few who worked to explain or help instead of chewing my head off. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 10K brain attached to a 9600 baud mouth. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
SOT: MDI - Re: RITLABS interview almost...
Hello Steve, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 08:41:51 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> Yes, that is what I am referring to. MDI is an old throwback to an SL> era gone by. As for opening 7-8 instances of IE or NS there is no SL> difference other than interface. Since the memory is shared there SL> is no added memory usage of multiple windows over MDI when it SL> comes to the main application. For example, each new window of SL> Netscape Communicator 4.51 adds another ~250k. In Opera each new SL> window adds about another ~55k. Given the comparative sizes of the SL> programs, that is chump change. SL> Given those reasons I fail to see why anyone would want MDI. My reasons for liking MDI interfaces has absolutely nothing to do with memory consumption. Even if Opera required more memory using MDI, I would still prefer it. I hated having to randomly choose between the multiple IE buttons on the taskbar hoping that I would nail the right one and see what I wanted. I'm also extremely happy with the MDI for Frontpage98. I usually have between 10 to 12 pages open at any given time in there. Same thing with Office2000 and TextPad4 (generally only 4 or 5 pages in these instances though.) This gets us back to our discussion concerning changes to programs that would cause current users to change software. If you dislike MDI, that is your opinion, removing MDI would "radically change how the product works" (your words). You could always take your own advice and "go elsewhere" as you so succinctly put it. :^) One reason (IMHO) that the PC platform is so great, is the immensely diverse selection of software. You can't please everyone all the time, that's why we have options. *** It is not my intention to start a platform bashing thread here, so we'll leave that lie. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A bunch of bunnies hopping backwards: a receding hare line. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: All About TheBat
Hello Jast, You're right, my bad. I just rounded off. The first message to go out on TBUDL was 29 Aug 1998 (almost a year and a half ) On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 16:31:52 [GMT +0100], you wrote: J> Couple years..? TBUDL in it's several instances hasn't been active J> for even two years, not even one and a half, IIRC :-D Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A one-bit brain with a parity error. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
Hello Leif, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 06:13:39 [GMT +0900], you wrote: ST> Yes, that is true. It will be possible to extend The Bat! using ST> DLLs AND scripts. This I am very, very happy about. Please leave the core alone (except for bug fixes) and use plugins for HTML and news. [on newsreader] ST> I think so. We still have not decided on what it will look like - ST> as a plug-in or as a built-in function... Please, please, please make it a plugin. I read newgroups maybe once a month, and only if I'm looking for something specific. Give us the option to use it or not. [on threading by reference] ST> Yes. We did not do it in the current version because of the ST> message base format... Thank you very much! [on scripting] ST> Of course :-) This is one of the primary objectives... This I'm excited about, I can handle scripting. [on HTML sending] ST> Yes. ehhh, so-so on this. As a plugin, it would be nice. LG>> and viewing href'd images? ehhh, so-so on this too. I guess it'll be nice to see an HTML page as it was intended, but long as it doesn't go trying to connect to the Internet when I want to read it off-line. LG>> - Will v2.0 fully support MAPI? ST> Yes. Finally! [on v2 filesize] ST> Well, I hope that it will be smaller than v1.xx executable, but I ST> cannot really predict anything on this subject. I'm dubious, but you've all surprised me in the past. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 1200 baud brain attached to a 28800 baud mouth. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: SOT: MDI
Hello Steve, On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 at 22:26:18 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> As opposed to randomly choosing between the multiple minimized SL> windows at the bottom of the MDI application (which can be SL> hidden)? It is identical except that the multiple minimized SL> windows show less text that the task bar when the person using the SL> task bar keeps it clean. Who said anything about minimizing? Either way, I don't have twelve or so buttons on my taskbar that have no business being there in the first place. The taskbar IMO is for easily moving between applications (especially when they are maximized), I don't need twelve IE buttons hogging up the space. Try this test. Open Opera, cascade twelve pages. Open five other applications and maximize them Now open twelve instances of IE and tile those. Which browser is easier to use? If my Opera cascaded windows get out of whack, SHIFT-F5 fixes them. Try that with twelve IEs and five other apps. At any rate this has gotten OT. I'd be glad to continue this privately or on www.takeitoffline.com if you'd still like it public. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: To keep milk from turning sour, keep it in the cow. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
We've moved! - was Re: SOT: MDI
Hello Steve, Steve, can you read? Which part of taking this off-line did you not understand? This thread is dead-horse. Anyone interested in following Steve and my mud-wrestling can see and/or participate at: http://www.takeitoffline.com/1/H/ToODb9tSlfLnelM6Lc6.html Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A bad Trek episode beats the best Melrose Place anyday! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Interview with RITLabs! Finally!
in filters? Yes. LG> - Will version 2.0 fully support HTML both in sending, Yes. LG> and viewing href'd images? This will be possible when we will write our own Web browser - I guess, this is a topic for another interview, but you should wait for it for several months :-) LG> - Will v2.0 support hooks for virus scanning attachments to messages? Yes. LG> - Will v2.0 fully support MAPI? Yes. LG> - Will IMAP(4) support be improved ?? Absolutely. This is another big improvement planned for version 2. LG> - How big (filesize) do you expect v2.0 to be? Well, I hope that it will be smaller than v1.xx executable, but I cannot really predict anything on this subject. LG> - How much do you expect v2.0 to cost? I think the price will not be much higher than that of v1.xx LG> How much will the upgrade from v1.x cost? It depends on many factors. We will make the decision about this when we start Gamma-testing. :-) LG> I just got two friends of mine to register TB a couple of days LG> ago. Is there any special provisions for upgrading these people LG> who buy it so close to the v.2 release date? Yes, I think so. But this is my personal opinion which can be different to my colleagues' opinion. Let we talk about it when the release date will be really VERY close. :-) LG> - How many of the items on the wish list are going to be addressed in LG> v2.0 that I didn't cover above? I really cannot answer this question now, because v2 is going to be very different. What I can say now is that I personally promise to read the wish list carefully and do my best in fulfilling all wishes (I think other our guys would agree with me). Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: I'd have a really cool .sig, but right now I can't even remember my own damn name. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Scoring
Hello Steve, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 01:03:46 [GMT -0800], you wrote: SL> Scoring is a filtering system (hush and listen, I know TB! has SL> filtering) whereby the filters assign a score to a newsgroup SL> article based on the rules provided in the score. Good explanation Steve. You've convinced me that scoring is useful. I think someone said X-news uses scoring (could be wrong). I'll go take a look. Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: $HOME = /dev/null. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Off-topic posts.
Hello users, Steve and I are discussing OT posts (off-list). I've noticed lately that there has been a huge jump in list traffic that is OT. So please see the below. I've said it before many times, and I'll say it again. If a discussion has strayed into the OT realm, please move it off-list. www.takeitofflist is a very, very simple and quick way to set up an off-list discussion. You don't have to use it, but it's the easiest way I've found. They even provide the option to have takeitofflist.com e-mail you any posts. You can reply using TB, and then cut and paste the reply into the takeitoffline reply window. It's simple and you don't have to remind yourself to go check the thread to see if any new posts have been made. You all don't have to wait for one of the list moderators to declare a dead horse either. Everybody here should be able to recognize one when they see it. Please take those off-list as well. Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: The cause of perfume disappearing is evaporation. Evaporation gets blamed for a lot of things people forget to put the top on. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Message base garbage detected.
Hello Douglas, Go to the TBUDL FAQ at: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml and see the "Messages" section. On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 at 19:30:08 [GMT -0600], you wrote: DMH>Message base garbage detected. Broken data is saved to DMH>(location)\bad92f3.tmp. DMH>Please contact your tech support about repairing the message base. DMH> That's what's happening. I also can't save messages or download mail. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Wasn't abused as a child, but should have been. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Steve Lamb 101
Hello Angel, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 at 18:51:08 [GMT -0800], you wrote: A> Hi all, and Nick, A> I am *not* a member of the *I hate Steve* fan club (Hate is such a strong word anyways). A> I just think there is a lot of frustration in the air. [snipped lots of mushy stuff] Ok everybody, group hug! Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Rogue Galary (was:Re: Steve Lamb 101)
Hello Oleg, On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 at 15:13:45 [GMT +0400], you wrote: R>>> anybody got more info on that? R>>> (who to contact, site-url,...) TF>> Mail it to Leif Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. OZ> And where can I see them? The rogues gallery is accessible via the TBUDL FAQ page, but here is the direct URL as well. http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.shtml Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 'language' is a dialect with an army. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: SOT: Download tools (was Re: The Bat! Registration - Strange....)
Hello Syafril, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 at 03:14:36 [GMT +0700], you wrote: SH> Yes, my favourite is Jetcar (www.amazesoft.com), because it's SH> small (around 700K), and having "split download utility" (up to 10 SH> split file), set maximum download speed (so I still have enough SH> bandwith for mail, browse etc), run behind proxy ...and it's SH> freeware. JetCar is my favorite too. I've run multiple D/L tests with it against GoZilla and Getright, with Jetcar always being faster. I love the split download capability. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 Beta/1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A belly button keeps you butt from falling off. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Shortcut key list?
Hello Juergen, On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 at 17:23:28 [GMT +0100], you wrote: JF> did you look here: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ ? JF> Pay attention to that point: "Is their a compiled list of keyboard JF> shortcuts?" Thanks to Denis Petelin, version 1.11b of the keyboard shortcuts is available at the above URL for both English and Russian. BTW, I haven't played with page coding too much, so someone with a Russian capable browser please take a look at the Russian version and tell me if it displays correctly. Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A belly button keeps you butt from falling off. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Shortcut key list?
Hello Douglas, On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 at 13:08:00 [GMT -0600], you wrote: DH> I know someone posted a url for undocumented TB! commands but I DH> don't see the bookmark it. I show this: DH> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml but that's not it. Got DH> it: DH> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcuts.txt Version 1.11b is at the following URLs now: English: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.eng Russian: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/shortcut.rus Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A modest little person, with much to be modest about. -- Churchill -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Shortcut key list?
Hello Douglas, On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 at 02:14:22 [GMT -0600], you wrote: DH> Which I thank him for. However, many of these commands don't DH> function for my Latin American Spanish language keyboard. DH> Question: Is anybody working on deciphering those differences? The DH> multilingual support in TB is a strong point in it's favor to me, DH> but this *should* be extended to it's logical conclusive, I DH> believe. Once again: Can we expect anything to that effect any DH> time soon? I don't know of anything definite, but many TBUDLers and TBBETAers put in a good deal of volunteer effort. If you can't find anyone already working on it, maybe you could give it a shot. I realize that everyone has a finite amount of time to devote to volunteer work, but it's one of the greatest assets that RITLabs has going for it. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Books you'll never see; Children's book of pop-up anatomy. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Off-line button with bug?
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 at 01:57:37 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> Can someone confirm this? Off and on I have played with these settings, and have never been able to get it to only do the periodical checking when already on-line. I just tried it again, and the same thing. TF> Furthermore, if you do want periodical connections and after a TF> while change your mind and disable it (at least in the main TF> account), the disabling is only recognized after to close and TF> restart TB. Without restart, periodical connection will continue. You can do this without restarting TB. You have to go to: Options / Show Dial-up Monitor / Show Always Then select the Queue tab / highlight all the entries / click the Delete button / click Hide. Of course, it might be faster to restart anyway! Unless there is a keyboard shortcut to bring it up, but I haven't seen one. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: We are NOT surrounded. We're just in a target-rich environment. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Shortcut key list?
Hello Nick, On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 at 08:42:28 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA> Leif, I was looking through the List of keyboard shortcuts, and NA> didn't see a listing for parking and un-parking addresses in the NA> Editor's drop down History List via the space bar? Could that be NA> included? I don't see why not. Please send your requests for additions to the shortcuts list to Dimitry Potapenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, as he is the keeper of this. Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A "running mate" is a husband who dared to talk back. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Jast, On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 at 17:41:23 [GMT +0100], you wrote: J> So now my question: Does anybody here use the submission forms, or J> can give me some examples for the effective use of these? I'm a J> little lost on where to start with this... When they first showed up a while back, there were all sorts of people trying to get these working. The first problem that was encountered was that you had to have the internal (batpgpxx.dll) as well as PGP installed. This has to do with the fact that the submission forms require signing. I'm pretty sure that this is still the case, and in the help file there is an example submission form which you can cut and paste to a file. We (the moderators) had even considered doing submission forms as a form of feedback to TBUDL/TBBETA for submissions to the wish list, FAQ, and shortcuts list. However, we didn't want to require everyone to have to install PGP just for that purpose. If we could get around that to where submission forms could be created that didn't require signing, then I'd implement them in a heartbeat. They appear to be fairly straightforward in their implementation. I can come up with a few good uses for submission forms for things like: - Retrieving current banking statements - Trouble tickets for tech support - Member price list requests (for e-commerce that maintains a public price list and a member one.) - Intranet information requests. - etc... However, for these to work, the server (the place you are requesting the above from) must have the support for these facilities. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Guillotining him would make only an aesthetic difference. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Off-line button with bug?
Hello Jast, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 at 05:31:38 [GMT +0100], you wrote: >> Off and on I have played with these settings, and have never been >> able to get it to only do the periodical checking when already >> on-line. I just tried it again, and the same thing. J> . went online, started TB J> . checked periodical checking and set it for every minute J> . it worked I never had a problem with that. What I don't want, is for it to periodically check when I'm *offline*. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A 1200 baud brain attached to a 28800 baud mouth. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Off-line button with bug?
Hello Jast, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 at 15:18:23 [GMT +0100], you wrote: >>>> Off and on I have played with these settings, and have never been >>>> able to get it to only do the periodical checking when already J> J> I guess I kinda overread this word :-) np! after taking a look at what I had written, it wasn't exactly one of my finer English writing moments. J> I understand now. However, with this I don't have any problems as J> well. It doesn't dial in to check anyway... I'm going to have to play with it some more. Probably something stupid I'm overlooking. I'm really good at doing that. :^) Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Guillotining him would make only an aesthetic difference. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Thomas, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 at 11:51:22 [GMT +0800], you wrote: TF> If this purpose for submission forms is incorrect, I haven't TF> understood what they are for. In some cases (banking), a signature TF> would be required, in other cases (bug report), not. You pretty much got it. I agree that in certain situations, a signed "form" is not needed, which would be a great boon to me as I could create forms for the FAQ, shortcuts, wishlist etc. TF> What do you mean by "the server must have support for these TF> facilities"? By support, I mean that if the server (the recipient of your form) doesn't have filters/database/autoresponder etc. Then they won't do anything for you (unless some human intervenes.) You are correct in that the form we see is just a formatting tool for a cleartext message. The recipient must have a means for extracting the information from the message to perform some function and return a result. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Needs his sleeves lengthened by a couple of feet so they can be tied in the back. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Jast, On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 at 16:49:22 [GMT +0100], you wrote: J> I'm not sure if I understood you: You need both the internal as J> well as an additional external PGP installed? I did understand they J> need singing from the help, but not quite sure why you would need J> another PGP. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that the batpgpxxx.dll only provides a means for getting PGP functionality under TB. It isn't the full blown PGP, so you must have a version of PGP actually installed in addition to having the .dll in the TB folder. J> I saw, it just would have no practical function, I fear. To some people maybe, for me it could be useful in that I am an American living overseas in Japan, so having a current exchange rate could be useful. Although, truth be told, I would really just switch on the TV to get it. J> That poses the question: How would I find out if they support the J> forms, that is, ensuring they know what I mean when I ask them J> about it? I sort of answered this in another message, but let's use the exchange rate request form in the TB help file for example. Let's say bank A has the necessary filters/scripts/database/parser necessary to extract the information needed from your form message to actually give you a meaningful reply, but bank B does not have this automation. In this case, bank A would be pretty much fully automated, and if they have a persistent connection to the Internet, you would get a response back in very short order. With bank B however, you would have to wait for a human to intervene to get the information back to you. I just reread your question, and realized that I didn't really answer your question. I would suggest that you contact whoever it is that you wish to use form messages with and ask if they have any autoresponders set up to provide the information you need based on keywords in your e-mail. If so, then it is a simple matter of having a form that formats the message in a way that their autoresponders can understand. I don't know how widespread the "form" usage is, nor how supported it is. I've never really run across any place that said they do it this way. Then again, I never looked either. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Flashlight: A case for holding dead batteries. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Max, On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 at 13:44:28 [GMT +0200], you wrote: MM> Submission forms require internal PGP implementation, but you need MM> not any additional dlls - everything is inside thebat.exe MM> Examples are attached. Hope you find them useful. But, before MM> installing them, import office.txt PGPkey. Hmmm, I must be doing something wrong. I imported your PGP keys and signed them, but whenever I try to add the forms, I get an invalid signature. Any ideas? I have the international PGP v5.5 installed and the Thebat pgp dll as well. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Percussive maintenance - The fine art of slapping the crap out of an electronic device to get it in working order again. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Max, On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 at 23:07:09 [GMT +0200], you wrote: MM> Oh, sorry for my previous message... Sure, I do have the idea! As MM> said, submission forms work with internal PGP implementation only! MM> Select "Tools/Pgp/Choose Version".. Ahhh, this does indeed look like the problem. I can't seem to figure out how to use my existing keyring with the TB internal version, so until I can do that, I'll have to wait to test the submission forms. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Percussive maintenance - The fine art of slapping the crap out of an electronic device to get it in working order again. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Submission forms
Hello Jast, On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 at 06:12:09 [GMT +0100], you wrote: J> Thanks, but... J> I imported the PGP-key and added the forms. Now this may sound J> stupid, but I still have no idea how to use them. I see them in the J> submission forms menu window, but all I can do with them is delete J> them from there again... Am I doing something wrong? Click on Message from the TB toolbar, and select a form under "Submit a Form" slide box. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A BIG ROCK>>>>>>me<<<<<http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Displaying Digest results in line
Hello Alexander, On Sun, 30 Jan 2000 at 21:48:28 [GMT +0300], you wrote: >> In version 2 ;-) AVK> This answer is not an answer at all... I didn't ask "where", I AVK> did ask "when";-) According to Stefan during the interview, we may have a beta sometime in February. Whether this is still true or not, I don't know. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Books you'll never see; Children's book of pop-up anatomy. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Anybody else notice?
Hello everybody, That Phil guy is a strange character. Looking at his e-mail address (which he changed during the "discussion"), you see this: 1l2i3h4P56d7a8B Remove numbers: 1ihP daB Reverse line: Bad Phil Don't ask me why I noticed that!?!? Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost and blamed it on the cost of living. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Anybody else notice?
Hello Angel, On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 at 14:31:28 [GMT -0800], you wrote: A> And if the fact I don't use my real name on this list goes against A> list rules? I am sorry.. & I'll resign from it. :( Aack! I wish people would stop saying that. If you didn't see the rule in the subscription receipt, then rest assured that we're not going to pounce a new one on you just because. I'm sure they will evolve over time, but so far the basic rules have served us very well. There are no rules against using nicknames (provided that they aren't offensive.) I've been on mailing lists and discussion boards since the mid '80s (BBSs before the Internet of course), and nicks (or handles) have almost always been acceptable. There were a few BBSs and UDLs I've been on that banned them, but TBUDL and TBBETA are not one of them. Just because a person does not choose to divulge their real name on the Internet, doesn't mean they have something to hide (other than their privacy.) To some people, privacy is very important. It's their right to keep their names private. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 / Beta1 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: "Body by Fisher -- brains by Mattel." -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Re: Message autoview window
Hello Tony, For those of you who didn't like my tiara, I edited it out in the new pic on the rogues gallery. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A BIG ROCK>>>>>>me<<<<<http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
Wish List
Hello users, This may have already come out on this list, but just in case it didn't. Konstantin has done a really nice job on the new wish-list site. He's made it very easy to add your wish. Please go to: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/ to add your wish. Thanks. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: I'd have a really cool .sig, but right now I can't even remember my own damn name. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Wish List
Hello Allie, On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 at 05:34:50 [GMT -0500], you wrote: AM> Nice. BTW, when I created the shortcut the generated page name was AM> "The Bat! Wish Bone" and not "The Bat! Wish Zone". :))) Was that AM> intentional?? Also, what happened to the previous wishes or are we AM> starting afresh? Yeah, I wondered about the "bone" too! We will be pretty much starting fresh. No one has a recent copy of the wish-list, so we decided to start over. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account/Email recovery help needed :D
Hello Angel, On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 at 21:55:26 [GMT -0800], you wrote: A> Got a question: After reinstalling TB! after a major crash, my A> boyfriend went thru to re-setup all the accounts to what they were A> before crash. The first one he tried got an error, that the mailbox A> had been corrupted. It is saved as a file "???bad.tmp". Every other A> account has been re-setup fine, just that one got "corrupted". :/ Bad Angel! Bad, bad Angel. You didn't check the TBUDL FAQ page did you? Try <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml> under the "Messages" category. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: A one-bit brain with a parity error. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat! - suggestions : Priority Level
Hello Syafril, Speaking of which, I had a cpl of run ins with one of the guys from this place. I'm forwarding those to you Syafril. On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 at 18:50:05 [GMT +0700], you wrote: SH> LOL... SH> I and Marck still have copy of the Advertising, do you want me to send SH> it to you privately ? :-). Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Always sharpening his sleeping skills. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB MAPI Compliant ?
Hello Nick, On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 at 11:03:57 [GMT -0800], you wrote: NA> Thanks Marek... I'll pass that along. BTW, what exactly is meant NA> by MAPI support? What will/can it do that TB doesn't already do? You can read the interview with RITLabs which talks quite a bit about the capabilities to be included in v.2 at: <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/interview.shtml> Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Beta URL
Hello Gary, On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 at 14:19:54 [GMT -0600], you wrote: G> Could someone gave me the URL for the beta site for download? For G> some reason, I have been unable to locate it recently. Thanks in G> advance. <http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html> Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB MAPI Compliant ?
Hello Simon, On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 at 21:31:51 [GMT +], you wrote: S> When exactly was this interview? How long ago? Just interested to S> see how long we should expect to wait for v2. January 11th, 2000 was it's final post date. The interview actually started somewhere around the 1st I think. Leif Gregory -- TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator ICQ 216395 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web Site <http://www.pcwize.com> TBUDL FAQ <http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/faq.shtml> PGP Key ID: 0x8604279A (DH/DSS) Fingerprint: 9E16 4316 FA42 5DC6 EB1D D0ED D37A 858A 8604 279A Using The Bat! 1.41 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium III 500 MHz notebook with 128MB. Tagline of the day: Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
