Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:38:00 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 19:38 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: YES! I didn't understand your template macro at first, I DO NOW! it doesn't help my situation, but I did learn something, thank you! Glad to be of assistance. :-) What I need is to be able to select from 2 email addresses per AB entry. This sounds like a wishlist item that must have gathered dust already. Maybe you want to send it again? I am not sure whether this workaround helps, but maybe crtl-+ works in some such cases. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat Running Slow
Hello Spike, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:51:20 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 20:51 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: What are the rules TB! uses in the case where you have 240 messages, each with 01.jpg, 02.jpg, 03.jpg all in the same mail storage folder? I know that in the case of newsgroups, AGENT uses an auto-increment feature (optional). I've been unable to find a reference to this. Let's say you have several messages with an attachment 01.jpg coming in. The first one will be stored as 01.jpg, the second as 011.jpg, the third one as 012.jpg, then 013.jpg and so on. So it is an auto-increment feature, but it is not optional. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 13. Los Angeles's full name is El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula and can be abbreviated to 3.63% of its size,L.A. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:42:37 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 19:42 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: what's the difference between a KLUDGE and full headers? Kludge is a historical term going back to Fidonet times. Full headers (or RFC822 headers) is the technical term. IMHO. I always use CTRL-SHIFT-K to display the full headers when forwarding SPAM to ISPs.. That is how I used to do it until I discovered SpamCop. SpamCop will check which headers are faked and only send messages to the ISPs that are really concerened (real originating email address, open relays used etc). With the filters created by Marck and published in the TB library, this is a matter of hitting shift-crtl-S for me now, it is easy and doesn't steal my time. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kludges?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:57:24 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 23:57 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: I have Spamcop setup, but I think it stopped working, No problems here. I use it about ten times a day (that's how much spam I get). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wer anderen die Stube fegt, will selber 'rein. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2 things- TAB and AB entries
Hello Paul, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:55:23 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 23:55 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: no, that is the whole problem, CTRL-+ ALWAYS selects and ONLY selects the first entry. Arghh. Wishlist, here you come. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Moving to original message
Hello Richard, On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:34:38 + GMT (22/01/03, 07:34 +0700 GMT), Richard Wakeford wrote: I've searched high and low through the key strokes list and can't find out how to move to the original message that I am reading the answer to. Please, is there a way of doing that which I have completely missed? You could always put it again into the wishlist. I also have to scroll up the line in thread view often in order to find the message the poster had replied to. I would prefer a single keystroke go to message up thread and another one for go to root (message that started thread). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. In an office: WOULD THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE STEP LADDER YESTERDAY PLEASE BRING IT BACK OR FURTHER STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smarter quote wrapping
Hello Alex, On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:11:44 -0500 GMT (22/01/03, 09:11 +0700 GMT), Alex wrote: After some searching, i stumbled across a quick template which would wrap replied text. The thread can be found here, http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg44735.html This wishlist item has already been realised in the current beta series. Smart quote is what it is called. Please be patient, wait for the next release, and see whether it does what you need. Alternatively, you can of course join the beta list by hitting here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , download the latest beta, and try it out even now. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Si le travail c'est l'opium du peuple, alors je ne veux pas finir drogué...[ Boris Vian ] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smarter quote wrapping
Hello Alex, On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 01:30:45 -0500 GMT (22/01/03, 13:30 +0700 GMT), Alex wrote: So just to make sure, does the smart quote actually wrap only text which it deems as paragraphs or does it wrap everything as it does now using the QT's from the referenced thread? A good question for the beta list! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The next time you feel like complaining, remember: Your garbage disposal probably eats better than thirty percent of the people in this world. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost folders and message
Hello Mary, On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:26:47 -0600 GMT (23/01/03, 02:26 +0700 GMT), Mary Bull wrote: This tower is custom built. Just got it in December. I love having those USB connectors on the front! It has 120 GB hard drive and 512 RAM. Pentium 4 chip. The two printers are on internally wired connections, with on-screen switching. The modem is internal, but I can get to the phone jack quite easily. BTW I remember you checking for prices and stuff. How much did you end up paying, if I may ask so intrusively? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wenn ich Sie jetzt um Sex bitten wuerde - waere Ihre Antwort die gleiche, die Sie auf diese Frage geben? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I want to clarify I few things here
Hello Dave, On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:55:39 -0600 GMT (24/01/03, 04:55 +0700 GMT), Dave Gorman wrote: Knowing the programming language, Delphi, that RitLabs is using major snippage I thought I had read that V2 development was being done in C++. Did I misread/misunderstand? V2 is being developed in C++. However, Stefan works on v1.xx, and that was written in Delphi 6. I don't know whether you can mix these and write new modules for a Delphi 6 program in C++ and link the object codes at compile time, so I don't know which language he is using. I would think for updates/bugfixes on existing modules, he would have to stick to Delphi, as otherwise efforts in rewriting the code in C++ for V2 are being duplicated, and we would be getting aplha versions of v2 rather than bugfixes of v1.xx. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: how do i upgrade
Hello Razgo, On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:29:02 +1000 GMT (24/01/03, 06:29 +0700 GMT), Razgo wrote: Hi, i see there is a later version available. 1.6.2i . i have 2 questions on how to upgrade. 1. do i just download the latest 30 day trial and install over the top of mine? Yes. Make sure that your current version is not running at the moment. 2. where do i find my liscence key or info to back up so i don't lose it? In the registry. Back up the whole key HKCU / Software /RIT. It also contains your settings and stuff. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 2-5 second delay on XP
Hello James, On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:13:42 -0500 GMT (25/01/03, 02:13 +0700 GMT), James Van Horn wrote: I know this has been discussed before, but I was hoping to see some results by now. When toggling between windows, 95% of the time, my Bat hangs for about 2-5 seconds before the window shows. The other 5% of the time, it will hang completely. Hit Folder / Compress all Folders and see whether the problem persists. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A student was asked to list the 10 Commandments in any order. His answer? 3, 6, 1, 8, 4, 5, 9, 2, 10, 7. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating backup file deletes file
Hello Anne, On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:12:11 + GMT (25/01/03, 09:12 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: PP Have you chosen the existing archive and the new archive being the PP same file? Perhaps a note in the help file to warn of this would be useful for new users? Or a kind of blockage, so that you get a dialog box when you try to back up to the same file. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Corduroy pillows: They're making headlines! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Updating backup file deletes file
Hello Peter, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:27:02 +0100 GMT (26/01/03, 22:27 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: TF Or a kind of blockage, so that you get a dialog box when you try to TF back up to the same file. You mean something like: C:\bla\quirk\backup.tbk already exists. Do you want to replace it? No. I mean like: C:\bla\quirk\backup.tbk already exists. Please chose another name. Simply because TB's backup system won't work if you use the sme file name for source and destination. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If life deals you lemons, make lemonade; if it deals you tomatoes, make Bloody Marys. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter charset...
Hello ~John, On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:06:21 -0600 GMT (27/01/03, 09:06 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: How would I go about filtering every charset except my own ? Or in other words, has anyone had any problems filtering everything except charset=US ? I would go about by using charset=US as the string to filter on, presence: No, Location: Kludges. Does this not work? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It was so hot during football practice that a lot of kids keeled over from nervous prostitution. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Trouble posting to list?
Hello Bruno, On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:56:30 -0500 GMT (25/01/03, 22:56 +0700 GMT), Bruno Fernandes wrote: Anyone else having trouble posting to the list today? After getting around he fact that digests of these lists lack a reply-to address I'm finding that mail sent to the list is not going through due to some server authentication error with the list's address. Hrmpph. Testing if this message comes through, I have no trouble. It appears that you created your message at 10:56:30 -0500 GMT but only sent it out at 22:42:35 -0500 (EST). While I first thought there indeed appears to be a delay of roughly 12 hours, you message in fact arrived in my mailbox within just over a minute from your sending it, i.e. at 03:43:58 -. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter charset...
Hello ~John, On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:28:04 -0600 GMT (28/01/03, 02:28 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: Okay, that makes sense... but couldn't I setup a regular expression filter to remove messages of known charset's like for Korea, etc.. ? Does anyone already have a filter like this that they are using? At present, I have a filter that deletes e-mail with £|¥|¤|§|«|»|À|Á| in the subject line... I figure that if they have any of those characters in the subject line they are foreign anyway..? No, even Americans know what § means (well, some of them do, and they are highly paid). Most spam that arrives in my inbox comes from the US anyway. I am vehemently against saying that all messages with certain Far Eastern character sets or TLD's must be spam. When I still lived in Taiwan, we had a member on this list who frequently missed my messages, because he deleted all incoming mail with TLD .tw and it took a while until the mystery of the missing postings was solved. Anyway, I am veering off-topic, so let's continue there. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321 Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error Message
Hello Granville, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:11:30 + GMT (29/01/03, 16:11 +0700 GMT), Granville Cousins wrote: I am trying to send a mailout to my group using eircom as the ISP. When I try to send the email I receive an error message which reads: Access violation at address 0002. Read of address . Could you tell me how to clear this? This happens only when you send to a particular address? Which module does the error message say caused the access violation? Sorry for these questions, but the TB version you are using is quite stable and I haven't heard this problem before. So we must find out what caused it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you smell an odorless gas, it is probably carbon monoxide. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marking filtered messages auto read
Hello chinchi, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:53:49 +0530 GMT (29/01/03, 14:23 +0700 GMT), chinchi wrote: What to do if my mail server is filtering the messages in to some folders and I get them sorted already when receiving in The Bat! How to mark these automatically read as soon as they download? Hm. Are you talking about an IMAP account? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Roelof, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:57:32 +0100 GMT (29/01/03, 16:57 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: OOTC: A few months ago somebody posted a piece of regexp to to extract the GMT offset of your own computer. I forgot to copy it then, can't find it now, is there anybody who has it available? I am not quite sure why you need a regex for a constant. ;-) Extract this one for your computer: +0100 Replace it with this one when summer time is announced: +0200 SCNR. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error Message
Hello Granville, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:47:09 + GMT (29/01/03, 17:47 +0700 GMT), Granville Cousins wrote: I am trying to send a mailout to my group using eircom as the ISP. When I try to send the email I receive an error message which reads: Access violation at address 0002. Read of address . Could you tell me how to clear this? TF This happens only when you send to a particular address? TF Which module does the error message say caused the access violation? TF Sorry for these questions, but the TB version you are using is quite TF stable and I haven't heard this problem before. So we must find out TF what caused it. It's when I try to send a message using my account eircom. I have a mailing list and I use eircom as the ISP to send the mail. It usually works very well, only this time I cannot figure out why I am not able to send this mailout. If it is only this one message, is deleting it and creating it anew an option? Computers are only human, too, so they get moody sometimes. I also get a message that reads. Message has not been sent. Server reply - Sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed repthosts(#5.7.1) Your own ISP does not seem to allow the recipient host name? I think these errors are related, as in one problem causes both. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Error Message
Hello Granville, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:04:07 + GMT (29/01/03, 18:04 +0700 GMT), Granville Cousins wrote: TF Your own ISP does not seem to allow the recipient host name? I think TF these errors are related, as in one problem causes both. Yes i have tried deleting the message and crating a new one. This did not work either. I have tried to get in touch with with eircom but not with any luck so far. Yes, my next idea would be to look at the message headers and then at the server configuration. Your ISP is the correct first address - let us know what they say. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humor. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Marking filtered messages auto read
Hello chinchi, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:54:54 +0530 GMT (29/01/03, 18:24 +0700 GMT), chinchi wrote: TF Hm. Are you talking about an IMAP account? Yes, of course! Then I'm sorry, I'll have to stay out of it. I don't use IMAP and don't really know much about it, but there are experts on this list who might have the right answer for you. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Prepositions are not words to end sentences with. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Iain, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:37:29 + GMT (29/01/03, 21:37 +0700 GMT), Iain Harrison wrote: Double clicking is clever stuff? It is the default for URLs and mailto's in almost every program I know. A double-click starts a new email, not a reply. Yes, that appears to be the standard. As someone who can type with reasonable speed and tolerable accuracy, and has used computers since long before the advent of mice, I was told some time ago that mice are animals, whereas mouses are computer equipment. CMIIW. I really don't want to have to stop, pick up a mouse, point it at some text and double-click when there is (or ought to be) a quicker method. So what you want to do is highlight some text, then click on an email address at another location within the text, and have the highlighted text appear as quotes. The idea (if I understand you correctly) is not bad, but it is not what is the common standard among email clients. I think there is no reason not to include it in the wish list, though. Why not let TB the first email client to do it this way? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wann wird denn endlich der Niagara-Fall geloest oder die Formel 1 ausgerechnet ?? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Winamp
Hello Spike, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:46:43 -0500 GMT (29/01/03, 23:46 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: Problem is that as long as TB! is running, I get skips and pauses in the music :-) If I disable the auto mail checking, it stops this :-O Thing is, I cannot confirm this. When I listen to music while TB is running, I don't have any interruptions during mail check. May it have to do with RAM size? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ein Computerfreak wird die Zeit, die der Computer automatisch arbeitet, dazu benutzen, ihm dabei unbewegt zuzusehen, um zu beobachten, ob er richtig laeuft. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Anne, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:50:17 + GMT (29/01/03, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: MB You can come here after you visit Roelof. As a matter of fact, bring MB him along. :) Sounds like a neat party in the making! bg Keep me updated! In fact, I still have some miles (on my frequent flyer program) to waste. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't use no double negatives. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOT: Winamp
Hello Spike, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:41:25 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 01:41 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: S 320K RAM - PIII/700MHz Toshiba Laptop (Satellite Pro 4360) Should be 320M - keys are too close! :-) g So that's not the problem then. I have a kind of freezing experience when I type messages TB checks mail. I continue typing but nothing is displayed on the screen. When the mail check is over, all everything I had typed is sent from the buffer to the screen, so nothing is lost. Somebody reported before that TB loses letters when mailchecking. (I cannot confirm that either.) So, it is appears that TB's mailcheck uses a lot of resources, and it depends on the individual computer setup where these resources are stolen from. Does that make sense? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I intend to live forever - so far, so good. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:39:43 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 02:39 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: so, tell me how to move a thread from tbudl to tbot... this should be almost a beginners primer in the FAQ, or maybe a macro?? Hit reply on the message and manually change the TO address to TBOT's list address. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reden ist Schweigen, Silber ist Gold. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quoting selected text in a reply
Hello Paul, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:19:24 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 08:19 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: but I've been kinda busy tonight, a nice 3 hour drive in rush hour traffic from one end of Atlanta to the other and back.. Seems my son borrowed my truck for the day while his was getting fixed ( from an accident ) and he totalled my truck in the rain, hydroplaning.. Ouch. I hope your son is OK, though. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftey deserve neither liberty not saftey. (Benjamin Franklin, 1759) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rotating taglines
Hello ETM, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:38:11 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 08:38 +0700 GMT), ETM wrote: %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\cookies.txt' -- what comes up as an error is below: Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Is TB! not reading the second line of the command? No. It has to be in one line. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rotating taglines
Hello ETM, On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:21:45 -0500 GMT (30/01/03, 09:21 +0700 GMT), ETM wrote: Cannot open file C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Is TB! not reading the second line of the command? TF No. It has to be in one line. How do you force the reply template to accept the file path that XP willy-nilly decides *is* the file path and keep it to one line in the template? It appears that the template is splitting the path into two lines. What is your editor setting as far as line length is concerned? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! - Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to enable threaded views?
Hello chinchi, On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:49:54 +0530 GMT (30/01/03, 14:19 +0700 GMT), chinchi wrote: What do we have to do to show messages by thread in TB? View / view threads by / References. As an alternative, you can also hit alt-1. (Use alt-0 to go back to unthreaded view). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Hellenolophobie: Angst vor griechischen Fachausdruecken. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: downloading from multiple mailboxes at once
Hello achdut, On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:57:17 -0600 GMT (30/01/03, 15:57 +0700 GMT), achdut wrote: Is it possible to download from more than one mailbox at a time by using only one download command? alt-F2 does that for me. Alternatively, you can also click on the little down-arrow attached to the check mail icon and then choose check mail for all accounts. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: newb address book and font issues.
Hello Marck, On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:36:32 + GMT (31/01/03, 02:36 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: BH the lack of ability to add all recipients seems to be a big BH hole. Simple - create a manual filter with the action Add address to address book and select All To + CC + BCC. Then execute the filter on the message containing the addresses you want to add. No, simple is something else. I agree with Bill that it should be possible to add the whole TO or CC list to the addressbook. I have just created a new AB and most of the new contacts I wanted to add where in one mail's TO header. Oh, I thought, how neat, one click and I'm done. No siree. So I looked for individual mails from each of these people and added sender's address to AB manually. Creating a filter for one-time use for something which I expected to be available in the context menu is not what I call simple. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Glaube verletzt Zwerge. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto complete question
Hello Anne, On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 16:51:22 + GMT (31/01/03, 23:51 +0700 GMT), Anne wrote: I have my auto-complete set to on and to use addresses from the default address book only, which is fine. However, the auto-complete in the subject line still operates and this can be a nuisance sometimes. [...] If the last is the case, I'd like to see the option to set them separately - is this already a Wish List item does anyone know? It's in both the wishlist and the repeated-annoyed-complaints list. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My goal is to be a meterologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up multiple accounts....
Hello Miles, On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:38:17 -0500 GMT (01/02/03, 09:38 +0700 GMT), Miles Alexander wrote: I have set up an additional account and I am finding that the secondary account will lose all of its configurations when I exit and return. The initial account stays intact, only the NEW account will not save its settings (such as SMTP/POP3; anything I enter) You are using v1.63/b1. I suggest you read the beta list before you report any problems here. What you discribe was a beta problem which has long been solved. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. All generalizations are false. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting up multiple accounts....
Hello Miles, On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:54:38 -0500 GMT (01/02/03, 09:54 +0700 GMT), Miles Alexander wrote: Effing fun eh? I don't understand your sentiment. You use a beta version and are surprised that something doesn't work yet? A beta version is an unfinished version that is being tested. When you use it, you become a beta *tester*, and it really makes no sense to *not* read the beta list in such cases. Sorry for my outbreak. I have met just too many people on mailing lists recently who download beta versions and have no idea what beta means. This is not against you, but a new kind of mentality out there in cyberspace. To make it clear: beta does not mean the latest. It means it is the second unfinished version - please test for bugs and any software developer will confirm to you that a beta version of any software *will* contain bugs. That's what beta testing is for: to find these bugs. It makes absolutely *no sense* to use a beta version and not at least monitor the beta list (beta lists for beta communities about the size of TBBETA, other options for smaller/larger groups). Then to fix these bugs, and when everybody is happy, send out a release version that is fit for the general public. Your comment above was therefore inappropriate. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. -- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problem with reading confirmation setting
Hello Jurgen, On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:24:57 +0100 GMT (01/02/03, 20:24 +0700 GMT), Jurgen Haug wrote: You're my man! And I am blind O:-) Glad to have been of assistance. :-) that was it, dunno how it got ticked, but it _was_ ticked. Problem solved, looking for the next one LOL Anytime! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It is wrong to ever split an infinitive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Auto complete question
Hello Paul, On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:12:24 -0500 GMT (01/02/03, 20:12 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: TF It's in both the wishlist and the repeated-annoyed-complaints TF list. ;-) If I have my auto-complete set to addressbook only, how does the subject auto-populate??? I noticed that happening, but I never thought anything about it... or is that the repeated-annoyed complaint. No, the complaint is that you can either autocomplete both adresses *and* subject, or none of the two. If you have autocomplete enabled, and you start typing a subject that you typed before, does it not autocomplete? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you breath, you inspire. When you do not breath, you expire. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: good anti-spam prog for use with TB!
Hello Michael, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 16:17:04 +0100 GMT (02/02/03, 22:17 +0700 GMT), Michael Geyer wrote: Besides that plugin i for myself use Spampal with the bayesian plugin to filter out spam not detected by spamcop and have surprisingly good results. A question here: how do you make SpamCop detect spam with TB? Over here, I detect it myself (visually) and then just send it to SpamCop for handling (manually, by way of manual filter). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Shopping tip: You can get shoes for 85 cents at bowling alleys. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: another question to learn how these regexes and makros work...
Hello Wolffe, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:23:11 -0500 GMT (02/02/03, 22:23 +0700 GMT), Wolffe wrote: G I thought you could only use the cookie macro once per template. Do I G understand that this has been corrected? I didn't know there was a limitation. There was a limitation (well, a bug) earlier, but it was fixed a long time ago. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Glaube verletzt Zwerge. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filing filtered messages
Hello mm, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:31:24 -0500 GMT (02/02/03, 23:31 +0700 GMT), mm Meister wrote: But I didn't *do* anything! Maybe not this time. Maybe the previous times you clicked on the line with the sig delimiter, and then TB's editor treated it like a trailing blank and deleted it. As long as you don't touch the line any more after the sig delimiter has been entered (by way of template or manually), the trailing blank in this particular line will persist. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Klaus Toppmoeller: Ich musste meine Jungs ins kalte Feuer werfen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Old newbie back, wondering about copying filters
Hello Krister, welcome back. On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:37:04 +0100 GMT (03/02/03, 00:37 +0700 GMT), Krister Ekstrom wrote: I've just changed email addresses and had to start a new account in TB. What i wonder now is, can i copy one or more filters from one account to another? Open the sorting office in the account you want to copy the filter from, go to the filter you want to copy. Hit crtl-C. Close the sorting office, go to the account into which you want to copy the filter. Open the sorting office, go to the first filter in the Incoming (or whatever) filter list, hit crtl-V. The filter is copied and appears as the last filter in the filter list. How do you do so that it gets everything right? I just tried it with only keyboard shortcuts (knowing that you are not a mouse type), and the filter was copied perfectly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. No one is listening until you make a mistake. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Kara, On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:28:28 -0500 GMT (03/02/03, 08:28 +0700 GMT), Kara Denizi wrote: Using the URL you noted above I couldn't determine the cost of the program. What is the cost and do you use the program yourself? AFAIK, Xray is free. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Spike, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:50 -0500 GMT (04/02/03, 20:21 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: I noticed this when try to test a mail server, but the messages never went through it. I have to go to a webmail interface to test that due to this 'feature' of TB!!! The feature of local delivery is optional. I have it turned off. If I want to send a message to myself, I usually want it to go via the servers, either for testing purposes or because I want it to be available by webmail access later on. An example is for latter case is that, since I don't have a printer, if I need to print out a message or an attachment, I send it to myself and print it out at an internet cafe. If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood the usefulness of the local delivery option. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Klaus Toppmoeller: Ich musste meine Jungs ins kalte Feuer werfen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cost of X-Ray?
Hello Gerard, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:37:08 +0100 GMT (05/02/03, 01:37 +0700 GMT), Gerard wrote: TF If I just want to move a message from one of my accounts to another TF one, I use the move or copy functions of TB. I never really understood TF the usefulness of the local delivery option. People will use it for different purposes but I use it to re-direct mail to an other account were I then work with it furter. If you just copy the msg all the headers stay the same. That is for me the exact reason to copy it rather than to redirect. ;-) And thanks to all who explained that this feature is useful in a networked environment. I have used TB only on a stand-alone, so I didn't think into that direction. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. COMMITTEE: A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best Alternative E-Mail Programs
Hello Spike, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:09:26 -0500 GMT (05/02/03, 05:09 +0700 GMT), Spike wrote: CM See the Full Story: CM http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/20659.html CM No mention of TB. Maybe we should pile on in the post-article comments CM section? Done! Looks like I got the first slot! Good one. But then, somebody else posted how great IncrediMail is... -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sign in a London department store: BARGAIN BASEMENT UPSTAIRS Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! not deleting downloaded e-mail from server
Hello Richard, On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:34:08 -0500 GMT (05/02/03, 13:34 +0700 GMT), Richard H. Stoddard wrote: When I am downloading mail from the server, if the process gets timed out or my connection drops before the session is complete the next time I attempt to download it always starts over with the first message again, even though it has allegedly deleted already downloaded messages from the server. (It is set to delete messages from the server, not retain them.) Today I had 85 messages in my main account, and it timed out several times, each time starting over at the beginning. [...] Is this a known bug? (Im using v1.62i.) Yes, it is. For some reason, TB does not correctly store the UIDL of the mails already downloaded, if you delete messages on server.\ (Jonathan is right the the DELE command did not get through and the mails are not deleted from the server if the QUIT command is not issued - but that doesn't explain why the message is re-downloaded into TB the second time you connect.) Is there anything I can do to rectify it? No, but there is a workaround I use: Set your TB to leave messages on server for 2 days. Suddenly TB remembers which mails have already been downloaded, and will not download them again, even if the connection has been cut prematurely. The disadvantage is that the mails actually stay on the server for two days (if that is a space conceern for you) and that after two days, the old mails will be deleted before the new mails will be downloaded (which can take some time if you have a lot of mails, like around 200 per day as in my case). I still prefer this solution over re-downloading 50 ML postings already downloaded, or re-downloading this 500KB picture my mother sent me... Not only is it a bit frustrating, even though its relatively easy to delete dupes, its also expensive, since my dial-up here in Uzbekistan charges both by the hour and the kb of e-mail downloaded from the account here. I see your point and recommend leaving messages on server for X days if you have the space. I use this all the time for the exact reasons you mention (line often cut prematurely, high per-minute access cost). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How reliable is 'kill dupes'?
Hello chinchi, On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:05:03 +0530 GMT (05/02/03, 14:35 +0700 GMT), chinchi wrote: How reliable is the 'kill dupes' command in TB? I have seen it delete messages that weren't really dupes at all, even tho TB says that it deletes messages with the same ID and it's not usual for two messages to have same message ID. But at times I do need to use this command. How much can we trust it? It is unusual for messages to have the same mid, but even if two messages with the same mid are encountered, they will only be declared dupes if they also carry the same time stamp. I have found the kill dupes function very reliable over the the years. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'm not just a gardener, I'm a Plant Manager. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known filter renaming
Hello Artemich, On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:58:53 +0100 GMT (05/02/03, 18:58 +0700 GMT), Artemich wrote: When I created a new filer I somehow managed to rename Known filter. Since then I can't rename it back to the original (or whatever you like) name. Just clicking and typing a new name doesn't help. Does anybody know how to rename this filter back? I am not sure, but I think you need to name it $Known$ (without quotes). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. - THE HOTEL HAS BOWLING ALLEYS, TENNIS COURTS, COMFORTABLE BEDS, AND OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITIES. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! not deleting downloaded e-mail from server
Hello Jonathan, On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:42:03 -0600 GMT (05/02/03, 23:42 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: Yes, it is. For some reason, TB does not correctly store the UIDL of the mails already downloaded, if you delete messages on server.\ Actually, UIDL is an optional part to POP3, which means servers don't *HAVE* to support it. So if his POP3 server doesn't support it, how would you store a UIDL for that server? Although I guess it could be considered a bug if the server supported UIDL, that it didn't store the ones it had already retrieved, on success of that download. It is a bug in TB. Even if the server supports UIDL, TB will re-download messages if you set it to delete messages from server, but not if you set it to leave messages on server. It is a known bug, too. If you switch from leave to delete, all messages on the server will be downloaded again, too. Even though the list of already downloaded messages is already known to TB. This has been confirmed several times. Whether or not his server supports UIDL remains to be seen once Richard sets his TB to leave and tries my suggestion. If my work-around doesn't work for him, it is a server problem and he cannot work around his problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation in xxxxx ?
Hello telepro, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 04:37:44 +0100 GMT (07/02/03, 10:37 +0700 GMT), telepro wrote: This usually happens when a mail folder (messages.tbb) gets larger than 2GB. This exceeds the FAT32 file size limit. You'll find that some mail folder can no longer accept new messages too! Just happened (again) to me on Monday ;-( It isn't the case, I just begin with TB Are you sure teh AV was caused by TB? What is the exact wording, which you have left out? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems importing emails from outlook
Hello Peter, On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:04:55 +0100 GMT (06/02/03, 20:04 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: AFAIR from reading in this list, it is not possible to import Outlook messages directly to TB!. They have to be converted to the format used by Outlook Express which then can be imported by TB!. I understand this is not true anymore. You can import directly from OL; this was fixed a few versions ago. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding and Redirected messages are stalled
Hello Jim, On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:11:44 -0500 GMT (07/02/03, 10:11 +0700 GMT), Jim Kilgannon wrote: When I tested this, everything seemed to work except that the forwarded and redirected emails are now just sitting in my Outbox, and have been for more than a day now. For periodic sending, you need to set two tickmarks: 1.) Account / Properties / Options: [X] Periodilcal check every ... minutes. 2.) Account / Properties / Transport: [X] Combined delivery (send and receive). -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Comparisons are as bad as cliches. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Violation in xxxxx ?
Hello telepro, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 05:57:32 +0100 GMT (07/02/03, 11:57 +0700 GMT), telepro wrote: I don't remember, but a dialog box of the bat indicating : access violation to the adress , the next time I have it,i note ! Yes please. The dialogue gives you the address as well as the module that caused the AV. Without this information, we can only wildly guess what may have caused it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf Tiramisu von Tesco`s (auf die Unterseite aufgedruckt): Nicht umdrehen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Looks like html makes to the BAT
Hello Julian, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:09:29 + GMT (08/02/03, 00:09 +0700 GMT), Julian Beach (Lists) wrote: Whilst there are arguments both ways on whether or not TB should allow the writing of HTML messages, I value the HTML-free nature of this list! ACK. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. OK, so what's the speed of dark? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello Christophe, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 03:55:46 +0100 GMT (08/02/03, 09:55 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: Yes but the problem is I don't use the dispatcher on server ; I have a first antispam filter based on a hundred keywords on alternatives strings that send suspicious mail in a spam folder that I can verify sometimes. PMFJI but if you are so keen on spam filtering, why don't you use a software that is specialised in it? I hear SpammAssassin with Bayesian Filter is a way to go. OTOH, if 17 spam messages are much compared to your daily intake of spam, then I wonder why you use spam filters at all. I get an average of 10 spam messages per day, and I have not a single spam filter. What I do is, I filter all legit mail to where it belongs, and what stays in the Inbox is spam (or a friend with a new email address which happens not very often). Also, regarding your list of hundreds of email addresses from which you have received spam: I hope you are aware that the list is useless. Whenever I receive spam, I will report it to SpamCop, and they will contact the appropriate ISP who will shut down the email account. Before I knew SpamCop, I did the tracking and ISP informing by hand, and often enough, within a few minutes or hours after the spam had been created, the email address was already out of commission by the time I got there. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Eat a live toad in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML or Not -to- HTML is not the question
Hello ~John, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 11:40:40 -0600 GMT (09/02/03, 00:40 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: I would like to see TheBat! become the all-things-to-everyone E-Mail client, the Ultimate or Complete E-Mail Solution! Why should a person have to look elsewhere for features, or use *more* software to do what *one* should be able to do? I believe the software you are looking for already exists: check out www.incredimail.com -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply all with selected text?
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:47:23 +0100 GMT (08/02/03, 23:47 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: KSR Now I have a quick way to do reply all. Now you only need a reason to do so. Can't remember the last time I did a reply-to-all for non testing purposes. I do that often. Small groups, such as a four- or five-person teams for university projects, will not create a mailing list (on Y!G or elsewhere), but all members of the group/team will be cc'ed in on all correspondence. Another example is our family. Well, technically a small group in the above sense as well. There is a lot that we share and reply-to-all in lengthy threads, even though there are still some non-cc'ed mails between family members. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel! - Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello Christophe, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 19:00:34 +0100 GMT (09/02/03, 01:00 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: Ok but I receive more than two hundred spams per day, it is not posssible not to filter ;-) That's a lot. Also, regarding your list of hundreds of email addresses from which you have received spam: I hope you are aware that the list is useless. I'm realist, at least sppammers are listed don't pass My impression is that every spam comes from a previously unknown address, but YMMD. Whenever I receive spam, I will report it to SpamCop, and they will contact the appropriate ISP who will shut down the email account. Before I knew SpamCop, I did the tracking and ISP informing by hand, and often enough, within a few minutes or hours after the spam had been created, the email address was already out of commission by the time I got there. I dit not know this process with SpamCop Check it out: www.spamcop.net There are also fitlers in the TBUDL library (follow the link in the footer of each posting) that send the spam message in the format required by spamcop. Whenenver I encounter a spam, I hit crtl-alt-S and don't need to examine the headers by myself. Saves me a lot of time. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Was langsam faehrt, hat einen Hut. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply all with selected text?
Hello Roelof, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 19:45:47 +0100 GMT (09/02/03, 01:45 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF I do that often. Small groups, such as a four- or five-person TF teams for university projects, will not create a mailing list (on TF Y!G or elsewhere), but all members of the group/team will be cc'ed TF in on all correspondence. I must admit that I'd create a mailing list for any group that I'd use regularly. It's project-based. There is a project in every subject we learn, and the membership of each team differs. Each semester has new subjects - and projects. CC'ing and replying to all members of the particular team is the easiest and does not need any set-up. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML sectarianism :-)
Hello marek, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 20:25:47 +0100 GMT (09/02/03, 02:25 +0700 GMT), marek jedlinski wrote: I guess we all have to move on sometimes. Allow me to respectfully disagree. I believe that before we move on, we all should make independent, informed decisions about whether the proposed direction is beneficial. You're a dreamer. I don't like HTML mail, but I doubt that the general public is aware of what is beneficial. I go so far as to say the general public is not capable of making an informed decision. This is because the general public thinks that Outlook is synonymous with email. Point in case: I fixed a friend's computer a few days ago, he couldn't log in. Being jovial, he said I could use his (pay-per-minute) internet access to check my email with the same provider - but I would have to change the settings in Outlook back afterwards! I checked my email using telnet and pine, not even touching Outlook, and he was majorly confused. ;-) What I have been advocating for a while is computer education in junior high. You need a licence to drive a car, and the internet is more difficult than that. Why is there no compulsory education in computing in any country? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Reiner Calmund: Im Fusball ist es wie im Eiskunstlauf - wer die meisten Tore schiesst, der gewinnt. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML or Not -to- HTML is not the question
Hello ~John, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:38:55 -0600 GMT (09/02/03, 02:38 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: I believe the software you are looking for already exists: check out www.incredimail.com Not Hardly! Thanks for the insult. Anytime! ;-) Seriously, you know this was a joke I couldn't resist making. And I appreciate your rejecting even the idea of trying IncrediMail. Friends again? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the 'terminal'? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML or Not -to- HTML is not the question
Hello ~John, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:14:55 -0600 GMT (09/02/03, 03:14 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: Friends again? H let me think about it Okay. LOL Pheewww... relieved ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wrinkled Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I Grew Up. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply all with selected text?
Hello Marck, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 19:45:29 + GMT (09/02/03, 02:45 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: RO I think I would be tempted very strongly (Marck, please look the RO other way) to use a folder reply template for such a list. No need - I use folder templates in these circumstances. There's no other way to do it. Mind you, that's the *only* time I use folder templates. I can only assume you didn't read the whole thread. What I was referrring to was that the first member of the temporary team to send a message sends it to all four team members. There is no easier thing than for everybody to reply-to-all. Setting up a folder template is not only extra work, it wouldn't even make sense in my case: all university email traffic is filtered into one folder of that particular account (there is not too much traffic). So, instead of creating a new folder for each project and setting up folder templates, I just reply to all. There is nothing easier. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf einem Bread-Pudding von Marks Spencer: Das Produkt ist nach dem Kochen heiss. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: reply all with selected text?
Hello Marck, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 22:08:27 + GMT (09/02/03, 05:08 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF What I was referrring to was that the first member of the TF temporary team to send a message sends it to all four team TF members. This has no relevance to the message I actually replied to. I was referring to it, earlier in the thread. I thought you were confirming that folder templates are so easy to set up that it wouldn't make sense to use reply-to-all, as someone had said the never uses that feature anyway. I just read your message again, and this is not what you said. TF Setting up a folder template is not only extra work, it wouldn't TF even make sense in my case: None at all and I wasn't referring to it :-). So this is clarified then. :-) My excuse the late (early?) hour at which I posted my message. Apparently it was me who hadn't read the whole thread - with the eyes yes, but not with the brain. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. THE RED LION pub at Lacock in Wiltshire offers whisky-flavoured condoms for sale. The small print at the bottom of the machine advises: Warning-Do not drive while using this product. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello ~John, On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:09:49 -0600 GMT (09/02/03, 06:09 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: This filter is not as easy to setup as you guys make it sound. You don't need to set it up, you just copy and paste from the website. For instance, Where in the filter settings is MainSet: 40. And in the Actions tab, there are several settings there, were does this go Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver, faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix These Actions should all be in one line. The beauty of TB's filtering system is, you don't need to understand the codes above. Paste the filter into your sorting office, and then look at it from with the sorting office and be surprised how clear everything becomes. ;-) I also went to the SpamCop site and could not find the address that I'm supposed to submit too. You get an individual submission email address assigned once you have registered with them. Check out the FAQ on www.spamcop.net . -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Server Timeout setting ??
Hello Rob, On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:00:33 +0100 GMT (09/02/03, 19:00 +0700 GMT), Rob wrote: 09/02/2003, 12:35:42: SEND - connected to SMTP server 09/02/2003, 12:35:42: SEND - sending message to ... !09/02/2003, 12:36:32: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - error 09/02/2003, 12:36:33: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent 09/02/2003, 12:36:33: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details anyway, i checked IzyMail's web site and they suggest that for big transfers the e-mail client might get 'impatient' and stops the transfer. so is there a 'server timeout' setting in TB ?? To me, the above looks like the server has reported an error. You couldn't have that in the log if TB timed out. (btw ; is there really another log with more details or is this all ??) This is all. But if you have ticked View / Log panel, you will see only the last line of the log. So there is a hint that there was an error, and you can check the log for any further info (as you did). as a work-around i reduced the size of the picture and then it got thru, so size and time to transfer indeed seem to be the problem ... My first guess is that the server limits the message size. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf Nytol Schlafmittel: Achtung: Kann Muedigkeit verursachen Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello Marck, On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:08:36 + GMT (10/02/03, 00:08 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JH and the second mistake was that the filter was not active (seems JH to be wrong in the template on the FAQ, the ACTIVE is 0 there). That's not a mistake. The filter is deliberately manual and inactive to ensure that it doesn't kick in for non-spam accidentally. Oh. I haven't tested this, but I thought an inactive filter is just that - inactive. Not accessbile. A thing I created earlier but don't want to use now. Are you saying that a manual filter kicks in whether or not it is declared Active? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Stossseufzer eines Malers: Schon wieder eine Woche verstrichen! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello Marck, On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:06:16 + GMT (10/02/03, 03:06 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: TF Are you saying that a manual filter kicks in whether or not it is TF declared Active? Yes. Well, it does for me. Isn't this a bug? What I mean is, if this is correct behaviour, I don't understand the logic behind the Active tickmark. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sie haben ein Alkoholproblem, wenn Sie die Raten fur Ihr Auto mit Pfandflaschen zahlen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filters
Hello Peter, On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:27:28 +0100 GMT (10/02/03, 13:27 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: Thanks a lot Marck! I'm just afraid it won't work completely for me as my username is an e-mail address to be submitted with %40 instead of @ (myname%40domain.com:password). If I enter it like this, the % is removed in the output. I understand the % has a certain function here, so how do I make the filter actually display the % sign in the batch file? Usually escaping it with another % works. So if you need %40, you type %%40. (I didn't try it.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. When you come to a fork in the road, take it! (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Selective Download .txt file of spammers
Hello Marck, On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:11:45 + GMT (10/02/03, 17:11 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Active means to me that a filter will be used by the Sorting office and Re-filter functions automatically. Manual means that it will only work when invoked by hotkey or Re-filter with Manual checked, but the latter will only work if the filter is both Manual and active. That's how I see it. Makes sense, but my view, namely that a filter will never be executed unless it is also Active, makes sense too. Now somebody not using a beta version said that Manual filters will not work when Active is not checked - I wonder whether there is a difference between the release versions and the beta versions (in which case we should move the thread to TBBETA). Anyway, I don't think there is a documentation about this. Where would we ask what Ritlabs really meant with the Active tickmark? If your explanation is what is desired, it is not a bug but by design. But is it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is no gravity. The Earth sucks. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filters
Hello Paul, On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:42:28 -0500 GMT (11/02/03, 02:42 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0Ahttp://[...] [...] You may need to change the launcher (which refers to IE) if IE is not your default browser. my default browser is now Mozilla... it saysyou MAY need... would it not call up IE even if IE wasn't the default browser? Yes it would. What he meant is You may want to change the launcher, depending on your preferences. Assuming that the default browser is your preferred browser. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If God dropped acid, would he see people? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: sending e-mail to address book list
Hello Avi, On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:30:29 -0600 GMT (11/02/03, 01:30 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem (detailed version): Prior to becoming part of the cable revolution I had a local dial-up ISP. When we went cable I continued to maintain the subscription to the local dial-up account as a back-up. This also allowed me to avoid the bother of changing our e-mail address since I merely accessed the dial-up account's pop server using the broadband connection and downloaded the e-mail directly off of the server. Outgoing mail was sent from the ATTBI mail server but reflected the old address of the dial-up account. Roelof already gave you a solution to your problem, but if I were you, I wouldn't bother to send out the mails but do the following: You say you want to use the RCN.com account. So, whenever you receive a mail you want to reply to, never mind to which address, just reply From that account. Add a tagline New email adress: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - please update your addressbook. I have changed my email address a couple of times over the years, and it always worked perfectly this way. Important is of course that you can still check the old address for a while, but you said that RCN will forward the mails to the old address indefinitely, and attbi for a few months. There will be only a few exceptions of people that are important to you that don't get in touch with you for a period of a few months. To these few, you can still send the special message, thus also having an opportunity to finally wish them a happy new year. ;-) Of course, all of the above only applies for private addresses. Business addresses may have other needs. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filters
Hello Paul, On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:45:41 -0500 GMT (11/02/03, 05:45 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: TF Yes it would. What he meant is You may want to change the launcher, TF depending on your preferences. Assuming that the default browser is TF your preferred browser. ;-) my default browser is Mozilla, but I have IE and opera installed. Opera is fastest, but flakiest. I'd rather use Mozilla than IE, but I think you need to have IE installed to do the wonderful windows updates. I seem to recall it wouldn't work if you tried it with Mozilla.. I would assume the SpamCop filter for TB works with any of these browsers, but it makes sense that the Windows update works only with the browser the same company distributes. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I live in my own little world, but it's ok, they know me here. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Ex-Eudora user - Things I Miss
Hello Nigel, On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:34:57 + GMT (11/02/03, 20:34 +0700 GMT), Nigel Floyd wrote: 1. A setting which allowed me to limit the size of individual attachments. Plus the associated ability to chose whether or not to download them once I had been notified that they were available on the server. And had checked that they were from a bona fide source. Is this function available anywhere in The Bat, please? I used Eudora before coming to TB four years or so ago, and I know what you mean. The download limit, when exceeded by the mail, caused an icon to appear: Download full message at next mailcheck. This is not available in TB. If I didn't click this icon for two days or so, the mail would be deleted from server and the icon would disappear. You have received replies of how you can work around this shortcoming in TB, but the Eudora approach is still better, IMHO. I have mentioned this wish a couple of times, but Ithink it wouldn't hurt if you send another official wish. 2. The ability to write messages in a font other than the basic, ugly ones provided: i.e to use the full gamut of fonts available under XP itself - Tahoma, Arial, or whatever. This last is a cosmetic rather than a practical issue, but it seems incredible that it is impossible to do this. I am using the beta version, where some of the menu items have changed. IIRC in the release version you go to Tools / Editor Preferences and then look for the editor font, which you can change to any fixed-width font on your computer. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Don't forget your wife's name . . . that will mess up the love. (Roger, 8) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filter, how do I set it up (please) ?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:32:29 -0500 GMT (12/02/03, 04:32 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PM Ok, let's go. First thing is, you need to set up an account with PM SpamCop. Then you'll have to edit the filters from the FAQ according to PM your settings. You can do this in a text editor by copying and pasting PM the filters and then adjust the paths and your SpamCop user name. I've used mine recently, but I never get a reply, and I never see IE startup to go to the spamcop web site.. the messages do get put in the sent mail folder when I hit CTRL-ALT-S Name: SpamCop AutoResponder SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A Make sure there is no line break here. It may have been inserted after you pasted your filter into the mail, but I'm just trying to make sure. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Be more or less specific. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filter, how do I set it up (please) ?
Hello Paul, On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:09:52 -0500 GMT (12/02/03, 11:09 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A TF Make sure there is no line break here. It may have been inserted after TF you pasted your filter into the mail, but I'm just trying to make TF sure. actually, I think there WAS a line break. when I clicked on the filter, it was in 2 lines just like this: I meant the line break after the word SaveTemplate:. When I first copied the filter into the clipboard (IIRC), there was a line break there. When I then pasted from the clipboard into the filter tree, this line break caused the filter not to work. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. On a Korean kitchen knife... Warning: Keep out of children. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop filter, how do I set it up (please) ?
Hello ~John, On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:43:09 -0600 GMT (12/02/03, 11:43 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: Okay, I finally got it working! :-) I was trying to Copy and Paste the filter directly as it was on the Webpage. I should have first copied the filter text and pasted it into Edit+ and then noticed the line breaks. Once I corrected the line breaks This is what I experienced, and what I also meant in my posting to Paul right now. I am not sure I was making myself clear. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Autoresponder ?
Hello ~John, On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:12:32 -0600 GMT (13/02/03, 00:12 +0700 GMT), ~John wrote: No abuse net record for semo.net Using best contacts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chain error exprod5mx25.postini.com not equal to last sender received line discarded Tracking message source: 216.41.128.69: Cached masters for 216.41.128.69: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 216.41.128.69 not listed in proxies.relays.monkeys.com 216.41.128.69 not listed in relays.ordb.org. 216.41.128.69 not listed in query.bondedsender.org This looks like semo.net is not an open relay. You should watch who the spam reports are sent to; I would think your upstream ISP is not among them. SpamCop requires you to click on the button before anything is done. You can always cancel if you think this is not a spam. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My operat~1 system unders~1 long filena~1, does yours? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vacation
Hello Joseph, On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:21:40 -0600 GMT (13/02/03, 21:21 +0700 GMT), Joseph N. wrote: I cannot find how to suspend my subscription for a few days. Would someone please point the way? Roelof gave you the official version. What I do in such cases is, I unsubscribe and then resubscribe when I come back. This way, I have no password trouble. ;-) BTW, in the silverstones.com site, clicking on the FAQ link (on the second page or so) gives me a blank screen in Beonex, which is a Mozilla browser. I don't know Beonix, but with Mozilla 1.0 RC3, I have no problems. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ein Computerfreak wird die Zeit, die der Computer automatisch arbeitet, dazu benutzen, ihm dabei unbewegt zuzusehen, um zu beobachten, ob er richtig laeuft. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Paul, On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:14:56 -0500 GMT (14/02/03, 03:14 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: ok group, here's a new one. I got a winmail.dat message from a friend. He is attachment cluelass, and uses OL. When I detached it and used fentun I got this as the TEXT of the attachment: This attachment is a MAPI 1.0 embedded message and is not supported by this mail system. I must be thick, so I'd better ask before I jump to conclusions: Your friend sent you an email, which arrived with a MIME-attachment that was automatically generated by his email system. The contents of the MIME attachment was that his email doesn't support MIME-attachments. If I understand this right, then the people over in Seattle do have a sense of humour, you have to admit it! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humor. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special message header to show
Hello Benjamin, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:18:01 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 07:18 +0700 GMT), Benjamin Schulz wrote: i use a tool for detecting spam which adds a header with the spam-factor detected, so i came to the idea that it would be great if i could define header myself at Menu/View/Message Header/ and see it at the preview pane I think the idea is good. So if the header X-Spamscore exists, it will be shown. I was just thinking how to program this, though. It is a non-standard X- header, so a function must be included to allow users to key in any headers. Yes, it could work. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Lothar Matthaeus (ehemaliger Nationalspieler) zum Koks-Skandal um Christoph Daum: Wichtig ist, dass er nun eine klare Linie in sein Leben bringt! Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello Christophe, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:03:56 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 08:03 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: I hve multi accounts, I've created a shared folder, therefore some e-mails go to this folder thanks to a filter well determinated ; the problem is that when I reply to an e-mail of this folder, the field from is not the good one, in fact, it does not display the good account from, like originaly in the headers... If you have got an idea ? The From address will be taken from the account settings, which you can override with the %From macro or in the folder settings. Of course common folders are outside of accounts, and apparently you are not using any other the other two possibilities, so TB must guess. Right-click on the common folder you mention, go to Properties / Identity, and set the From address to the address you wish TB to use. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There is a CD out entitled The Worst of Jefferson Airplane. If you buy this, take it home, play it, and enjoy it, should you take it back and demand a refund? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: BCC
Hello Mark, On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:41:01 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 03:41 +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: That doesn't work anymore but it seems this has nothing to do with The Bat, but rather with the changed settings on my provider's server: it doesn't work with OE and Poco either, nowadays. That clarifies it then. Thanks for the feedback. It's not a major problem, it's only BCC's to our own addresses that do not work. I do think that is a problem, I BCC to myself often. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the alter. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello Christophe, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 04:33:13 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 10:33 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: Of course common folders are outside of accounts, and apparently you are not using any other the other two possibilities, so TB must guess. ok but without guessing, it could remember whom were the original sender, with headers, no ? The original sender is the one who sent it to you. He is in the From address of the incoming mail. I understand we are talking about a rpely to make to his mail, and you want one of your several address to automatically appear in your reply in the From field. Yes, TB knows the original sender. If you reply to each sender only from one of your addresses, you could use the %From macro in your reply templates in your addressbook. If you always want to reply from the address the message was originally sent to, you can use %From=%OTOADDR in your folder template. Does this help? Right-click on the common folder you mention, go to Properties / Identity, and set the From address to the address you wish TB to use. ok but it depends on. I can not indicate one address in this tab, it varies... Is there a posibility to set and to oblige TB with displaying the original sender ? Again, I don't know why you mention the original sender. My reply applies if you mean the original recipient; otherwise I misunderstood you from the beginning. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Vacation Special: have your home exterminated. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: winmail.dat
Hello Paul, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:30:33 -0500 GMT (14/02/03, 19:30 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: attachment: This attachment is a MAPI 1.0 embedded message and is not supported by this mail system. TF I must be thick, so I'd better ask before I jump to conclusions: I never jump, it hurts too muchG I love diving, water is much easier to jump into. But I can't breath under water! I have an irrational fear of drowning, that's why I don't dive. ;-) TF If I understand this right, then the people over in Seattle do have a TF sense of humour, you have to admit it! ;-) uh, I think I get it now, it was HIS program that generated the error. But he did see whatever it was, or he wouldn't have forwarded it, right? Well. People do sometimnes forward things they don't see. But the funny thing is that it makes no sense: how can a MIME attachment be attached if MIME is not supported? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The tides are a fight between the Earth and moon. All water tends towards the moon, because there is no water in the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shared folder Address Reply
Hello Christophe, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 17:09:51 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 23:09 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: If you always want to reply from the address the message was originally sent to, you can use %From=%OTOADDR in your folder template. Yes, I dit it and it's exactly what i want Does this help? Yes, thanks a lot You're welcome. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. QUESTION: If a fire hydrant has H2O on the inside, what is on the outside? ANSWER: K9P Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: special message header to show
Hello Benjamin, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:25:41 +0100 GMT (14/02/03, 16:25 +0700 GMT), Benjamin Schulz wrote: imho there would be two possibilites: 1. free definition using a text field (somewhere ;)) 2. all special headers of the currently displayed mail would be added to the menu i think the first one would be the better one Send in a feature request. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Known filter question
Hello Allie, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:15:22 -0500 GMT (15/02/03, 07:15 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: I wonder about the usefulness of the filter myself. I guess it's a means of making such a filtering method more apparent to the passing user. However, an experienced user will likely not need it and will more likely be impeded by it's short-comings. I use it. The problem is that it works only for incoming mail, and I have to set up another filter for outgoing mail to filter into the same folder (I always like to keep corresponsdence togther as threads). And yes, it helps indentifying spam, it is the last filter. Anything incoming that was not filtered into other folders by now, will be sent to Known, and what remains in the Inbox is almost exclusively spam. I am not hampered by any short-comings here. It is a simple and straight-forward thing. What should I be missing? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. As of 1992, they'll be called European Economic Community fries. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Converting..........
Hello Mark, On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:16:57 -0800 GMT (15/02/03, 06:16 +0700 GMT), Mark Wieder wrote: JAS Therefore, since we use an Exchange server internally, I can only use JAS The Bat! for my personal email accounts. Someone should inform the IT folks that there's a switch they can throw on the Exchange Server to let it be accessible by pop3 clients. IIRC it's not a system-wide switch, but can be toggled for each user. Confirm, because we had an Exchange Server at my last company, and I used The Bat. BTW I was the only one using TB for another shortcoming of TB: Lack of Chinese support in interface, editor, and display. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?
Hello Christophe, On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:13:54 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 07:13 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: I need an explanation ; sometimes when I retrieve my e-mails, the connection center seems to to messages, I see furtively reception of headers : reception message #1 for one message and nothing more, I look at, and neither the inbox accounts, nor the filtered folders have received an e-mail You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties / Mail Management). TB needs to download the header first to see whether this particular mail was downloaded before. If so, the mail will not be downloaded again. I go to see the view log and I have that : 19/02/2003, 00:53:00: FETCH - 1 Message(s) in the box, 0 New(s) 19/02/2003, 00:53:00: FETCH - Connexion terminated - 0 message(s) received Right. 1 message is on the server, but you downloaded it earlier. There is no new message (a message that you have not downloaded yet). So, no message is being downloaded. ;-) Do you think it comes from the fact I have a selected download filter based on a .txt file containing hundreds of e-mail spammers and an option to kill mail ? Not in this case, because the log clearly says that there was no new message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Shopping tip: You can get shoes for 85 cents at bowling alleys. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?
Hello Christophe, On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:39:41 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 21:39 +0700 GMT), Christophe wrote: You have set TB to leave messages on server (Account / Properties / Mail Management). No I did not ! I directly delete messages received from server Strange indeed. How can there be a message which is not new, then? Hm. Anyway, let's say there is a message and you delete from server. TB still needs to download the headers first, in order to compare them with your kill file. That's why you first see downloading header. Then, let's say the message fits your kill conditions as per .txt file. The message will be deleted on the server - and not be downloaded. So 0 messages received will still be right. Now there should be no message on your server any more. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. There are 10 different kinds of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Retrieving mail problrem ?
Hello Peter, On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:24:00 +0100 GMT (19/02/03, 23:24 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: Beside the fact Christophe already denied your assumption let me correct you: The Bat! _does not_ download the headers of an e-mail if you've set Leave messages on server. It decides wether to fetch or to ignore a mail in that setup by inspecting the output of UIDL command, Ah, I stand corrected. I should watch TB's dialog better. Unfortunately, this is still not possible from within TB and I didn't check this particular dialog with Ethereal. But in no case The Bat! uses the headers to decide if a message was already downloaded, headers are only fetched when selective download is aktive of message dispatcher is invoked. ^ I know you mean or, not if. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. RealWorld? Is that where the pizza delivery guy comes from? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PC-cillin vs the Bat
Hello Michael, On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:03:21 -0600 GMT (21/02/03, 04:03 +0700 GMT), Michael Disabato wrote: M I experiencing some difficulties with the Bat v1.62 and PC-cillin '03. M Every time PC-cillin is active and I attempt to use the Bat...I M experience the Bat slowing down and locking up. Yes. The same thing happened to me. Turn off scan of The Bat! folders under Real Time Scan. The easiest way is to just scan recommended types. If you Scan Everything, your files get scanned when the message comes in, when it goes to your Inbox, and when it's moved to a folder. I am using PC-Cillin6, have now RealTime scan enabled and scan for all file types. No slow-down. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SpamCop Filter Questions
Hello Chris, On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:33:04 -0600 GMT (21/02/03, 12:33 +0700 GMT), Chris Montgomery wrote: 1. In the first filter, where can I find out what the values in the Actions line mean (e.g., faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix)? There is no published list of these internal codes. In fact, the filter and its innards are not meant to be read by humans. These things only become visible when you cp filters, but if you want to see/change anything, you should do that in the Sorting Office. 2. [...] Do I need to be a paying member to make this second filter work? I received an authorization code when I created my account, but I don't ever recall having a password. No. I have a free account and I don't have a password. The second filter works fine here, too. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re: PC-cillin vs the Bat
Hello Frank, On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:02:53 +0100 GMT (22/02/03, 02:02 +0700 GMT), Frank Nijkamp wrote: Since I'm using Spampal, all Spam is refused. Your mail is recognised as spam. If this is not the case, please reply this message without altering the subject. ROTFLMAO! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! - Peter Palmreuther on TBUDL. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: **SPAM** Re[2]: Macros and MAPI
Hello Peter, On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:10:18 +0100 GMT (22/02/03, 17:10 +0700 GMT), Peter Fjelsten wrote: In my view, SpamCop is too hard. Actually, banning Korean and Chinese IPs get me a long way (I don't know anyone there). What if a TBUDL member from these countries sends a posting? I used to live in Taiwan, and one TBUDL member never received my postings, because he deleted all incoming mails with the .tw TLD. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Deine Stereoanlage hat aber viele Knoepfe! - Na, ja, mit Reissverschluss saehe sie ja auch ziemlich bloed aus. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wrapping Taglines ?
Hello John, On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 12:21:54 -0600 GMT (23/02/03, 01:21 +0700 GMT), John Morse wrote: Thanks, I was able to add the \n to the text file where I wanted it to wrap. But I never could get the %Wrapped=%Cookie to work. How do I use it when the cookie is calling up a certain file...? This is what my cookie looks like in the macro: %COOKIE=D:\My Documents\quotes.txt This is what works fine over here: %Wrapped='%Cookie=C:\Program Files\The Bat!\cookies.txt' -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. My operat~1 system unders~1 long filena~1, does yours? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Global filters (was:: Plug-in/Feature Request...)
Hello Allie, On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:58:11 -0500 GMT (23/02/03, 19:58 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: If you used a global filter, how would TB! know where to apply the filter. In fact, it may very well apply global filters first. Hm. I would think in each account you give each global filter a position (or not, if you don't want the filter to be applied to that account). In a central location, maybe under QuickTemplates, you update/maintain the global filters centrally, and each update of course applies to each account in which this global filter is in the filter list, and exactly at the position in the order of filters where the global filter is mentioned. Am I making sense? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. -- Redd Foxx Message reply created with The Bat! 1.63 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
