RE: [TeX-music] dviconcat
If you want to be sure if your version is working, you can do the following: 1. copy dviconcat.exe at the directory where the .dvi files reside 2. make a batch file with an editor (ie concat.bat) all in the same directory, with the text: dviconca -o outfile.dvi infile1.dvi infile2.dvi make sure the extensions are present and that the filenames<=8chars 3. then doubleclick on concat.bat Andre -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 22 oktober 2003 17:11 Aan: TeX-Music Onderwerp: Re: [TeX-music] dviconcat On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 4:11:18 PM, you wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote >> ... does anyone know where I could find a clean >> copy? Unfortunately the utility isn't part of MikTeX, and it seems to >> be very difficult to get hold of these things in DOS/Windows versions >> on the Web... >> > Yes it is, and that's why I added my copies to our archive several years > ago: > http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/add-ons/dvitools.zip Hmmm. Thanks -- it looks as though my executables in fact come from this archive, as they bear the same date and time stamp as those in your zip file. Unfortunately, having downloaded a fresh copy and placed it in my local binaries directory, I'm still getting the same problems. Interestingly enough, I can't seem to get any usable results from dvidvi either, whether I use the copies in the local binaries dir (and yes, this *is* in my system path) or copy them to the directory with the dvi files. Eva ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
RE: [TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment
Hi Cornelius, Thank you very much for helping. I tried Ap but now the 1st part of the first slur looks odd, and the other ties/slurs are very small and thin, including now the start of the second part. Perhaps it all depends on the amount of notes on one line. I was very happy with the Apl (for flattening the slurs) option which probably can not switched off when used once. But yes, sometimes Ap is better. Andre -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Cornelius C. Noack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 21 oktober 2003 17:50 Aan: Andre Van Ryckeghem CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment Hi Andre: your workaround is, of course, fine, but: in a case like this, you should NOT use Apl, but just Ap ! The README to PMX beta 2.411 explains this in detail. The effect is, to my taste, not sufficient, but it's noticeable. ccn. -- On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > This is perhaps not worth to mention it, but is it possible to have a > default minimum length of the 1st segment of a broken postscript slur (as it > is at the start of the second segment)? > (i can work around this problem by changing all the first of two 'st' by > 'sts+0+1') > > This is an example (see last tie): > = > 1 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 > 1 420 .0 > > t > ./ > Apl > w25m > f85 f f f s f s f f f sts+0+1 f st f f f st f st f f f / > = > > Thanks for helping > Andre > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > -- Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. NoackPhones: Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 Universit"at Bremen secretary: -2422 Otto-Hahn-Allee Fax : -4869 D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 Fax: 346 7872 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW-page: www-theorie.physik.uni-bremen.de/~noack ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
RE: [TeX-music] dviconcat
In the canons, I used it as follow (you must have only 2 command lines here) For the easiest way I copied dviconcat.exe between the .DVI files (perhaps you can adapt the PATH in Dos also) and also the .bat file that has the commands. The full bat file is at the Icking site dviconca -o temp.dvi canonsfp.dvi canon1.dvi canon2.dvi canon3.dvi canon4.dvi canon5.dvi dviconca -o canons.dvi temp.dvi canon6.dvi canon7.dvi canon8.dvi canonick.dvi canonicl.dvi canonjl.dvi canontoc.dvi Andre -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 21 oktober 2003 17:16 Aan: TeX-Music Onderwerp: [TeX-music] dviconcat Dear friends, some time ago, someone on this list sent me the DOS binary of dviconca.exe along with instructions for use to the following effect: dviconca -o outputfile infile1 infile2 infile3 I've been trying this without useful results; all I get is DVI files of size 0 bytes, or an output file containing nothing but infile1, or ten-megabyte monstrosities (from two 20k input files) which YAP refuses to open. Can anyone tell me what's going wrong here? TIA Eva ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment
This is perhaps not worth to mention it, but is it possible to have a default minimum length of the 1st segment of a broken postscript slur (as it is at the start of the second segment)? (i can work around this problem by changing all the first of two 'st' by 'sts+0+1') This is an example (see last tie): = 1 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 1 420 .0 t ./ Apl w25m f85 f f f s f s f f f sts+0+1 f st f f f st f st f f f / = Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt
Thanks to Cornelius C. Noack i could get this method to change the hight of the instrument names: % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 3 3 2 4 4 80 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 17 68 20 % no indent in the parts %% .07 %!0 %% Cello %1\raise+3ex \hbox{Cello} %% Viola %2\raise+3ex \hbox{Viola} Violino b3t Thank you very much Andre - Original Message - From: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt > Dear all, > > When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the > upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola) > collide with text above the staff. > By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola' > depends on the number of staffs. > > Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without editing > the output of scor2prt? > I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file: > == > --- > \input musixtex > --- > % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, > 1 > 1 > 2 > 4 > 4 > 8 > 0.00 > 0 > % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent > 1 >15 >20 > 0.00 > > 3 > ./ > Ti > Viola > Arbd > Ae > Apl > AT > % 1 > \zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\ > b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D<-1 | f4n s fs s D<-1 | f2n | > f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D>+1 D>+1+5 / > % 7 > rp > | r8 f- Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / > rp > | r8 f+ Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / > % 10 > L2 > g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | > fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< | > d8si D< st e d4s st D> | d8si D> st e d4s st D< | > dsi st g ob D< g o> .gf Df st / > g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | > fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< | > / > === > > Thanks for helping > Andre > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt
Dear all, When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola) collide with text above the staff. By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola' depends on the number of staffs. Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without editing the output of scor2prt? I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file: == --- \input musixtex --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 1 1 2 4 4 8 0.00 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 15 20 0.00 3 ./ Ti Viola Arbd Ae Apl AT % 1 \zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\ b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D<-1 | f4n s fs s D<-1 | f2n | f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D>+1 D>+1+5 / % 7 rp | r8 f- Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / rp | r8 f+ Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / % 10 L2 g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< | d8si D< st e d4s st D> | d8si D> st e d4s st D< | dsi st g ob D< g o> .gf Df st / g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< | / === Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX
sorry i forgot this definition: \\let\endpiecesav\endpiece\ \\\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ if not on the last page use eject in stead of endpiece if musixtex: \let\endpiecesav\endpiece\ \def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX
The \def\text{... is between the --- in pmx to be removed in musixtex, and \\ to replace by \ adapt the lenghts (17 cm and 8 cm <17/2 ) --- \def\text{% \hbox to 17cm {\hsize=8cm\parindent=0em \vtop{% Since Coulonnus was an expert in ancient music he would have played \par bars 120 and ff like this and blablabla:} %\hfil \vtop{% Comme Coulonnus \'etait un expert en musique ancienne il aurait jou\'e les mesures 120 et suivantes comme ceci et blablabla et en Francais le texte est plus long et blablabla:}}}% --- somewhere on the page: \\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ Andre - Original Message - From: "Jean-Pierre Coulon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX I wish to append some comments in two languages, two columns, at the end of a MusiXTeX document. I know how to do this in LaTeX (see the attached example), but AFAIK, you have to "speak" TeX instead of LaTeX to add significant text to a MusiXTeX file. Does anybody know how to "translate" the attached LaTeX file into TeX ? Regards, Jean-Pierre Coulon E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur Département FRESNEL, groupe ILGA BP 4229 06304 NICE Cedex 4 Tel (33) {0}4 92 00 31 58 Fax (33) {0}4 92 00 31 38 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Daniel Taupin
I want to participate in the grief in the passing away of Daniël Taupin. I almost met Daniël at the TUG days in Holland, a few years ago. At last moment i was prevented, but a colleague has met him there and reported me all details. My first mail to Daniël was propably 10 years ago. I tought i found an error in musixtex.tex. I was afraid to mentioned it and asked him how to solve a problem i had. I am sure everyone knows his answer: "read the manual", what i did and it was all there. Anyway it helped me to understand musixtex. It happens i posed a problem and a few hours later i saw appear a new version of musixtex with the adaptions. It was so fast, i doubted if it was a reaction on may mail or if it was a coincidence he just did an update. Daniël Taupin is one of the unbelievable smart minds in making a music typing programm dat handles all exceptions. Even Donald E. Knuth honored him with a link to musixtex. Andre Van Ryckeghem ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX
but if you replace the flats by sharps and put the most left one to the right, it will collaps with the upper one Andre - Original Message - From: "Christian Mondrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX > Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > It is very easy to work with it because of the tweak possibilities. > > I tried a sharp on the upper note of the last chord, with stem down. It collapsed > > a little bit with > > the b. > > then i tweaked 3 accidentals. > > This is the way it should go? > > well - not quite according to Gardner Read in his 'Music Notation' 2nd ed., > Boston 1969. On page 134 there is a series of examples on placement of > accidentals in chords alonq with some comments on rules and guidelines for > placement of accidentals. None of these examples, some of them being > comparable to the below example, have the accidentals cascading leftwards > from the top like in chord 2 and 3 below. Among the main principles is to > have as few accidental 'columns' as possible. > > Generally I recommend Gardner Read's book (evaluated as _the_ standard in > the Lilypond engraving bibliography). Unfortunately it is out of print and > must be purchased second hand. I managed to do so a few months ago. ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX
It is very easy to work with it because of the tweak possibilities. I tried a sharp on the upper note of the last chord, with stem down. It collapsed a little bit with the b. then i tweaked 3 accidentals. This is the way it should go? Andre 1 1 3 4 3 4 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ Abr K-4+0 w3i b43 zdf ze zgf zaf zb zdf df zef zgf zaf zbf zdf d-lfA<1 zef zgf zaf zbfA<.7 zdsA<.7 / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX beta 2.412; PMX 2.411 for OSX; M-Tx beta 0.54c; Other changes
I redid "Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen (Heinrich van Herzogenberg)" with the new Apl option. It is amazing how easy it is to make the broken slurs with the right shape. For most of the flatten slurs it is simpy "sf...sf" and if they collaps, using something as "suf+7s+3s+2...s+7". If i understand well the vertical offsets of the broken slurs are relative to the start of the slur ("suf+7s+3s+2" and not "suf+7s+10s+9"). Thank you very much Don for this amazing feature that fasten up a lot the typing of music. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding
Must be tuned a bit I suppose the short notes are no tuplets 2 2 4 4 4 4 0 -4 1 1 20 0 bt ./ Ab Apl \\setinterinstrument1{3\Interligne}\ c03l o> of+3 su+12+5 zc- | d+ s+28 // rb8 [um3+1 c13 ds es f g as bs c ]j rb4 rb8 | r4+6 b43 zen e za- an ze+ / rp+0 of | rbp // rb4 rb4 rb8 [ju d1s es f g as bs ] | c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: / === Andre - Original Message - From: "Olivier Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding > Here is an another excerpt from the piano concerto in F of Gershwin. I coded > it using MusiXTeX and don't know if it is possible to get it with PMX. > > Olivier > > _ > MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! > http://messenger.fr.msn.ch > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname
replace '*' by '$\sharp$' Andre - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname > Dear friends, > > How can I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the "*" > in the following extract? > > > \input musixtex > > \parindent 1.5 cm > \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}% > \startmuflex\startpiece > \NOTes\wh p\en > \endpiece\endmuflex > \bye > > (The project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires > that the third string be tuned to G#.) > > Regards > Eva > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding
It is coded in a nice way. I have 2 questions and a remark: - by rising the ful rest the formata becomes synchrone on the rest - by allowing a slur to start on a rest, in many cases it would be easer to construct a slur that is meant for the other voice (here it is done for the other staff and we are lucky that the horizontal shft is only 6) - i wonder why there are 3 beams on the lefthand staff. Should the code become this one? == 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -4 1 1 20 0 bt ./ w120m Abrpl \\font\sevenit=cmti7\ c03l o> of+3 shu+10+6 zc- | d+ s+22 Rb // rb2 rb1 \settiny\ [u+1 c33 D"\sevenit R.H."+19+2 ds es f D"\sevenit glissando"+22 g as bs c ]j rb8 rb1 | r4+6 b43 zes e za- as ze+ / rp+2 of | rbp // rb2 rb4 rb1 \settiny\ [ju d3s es f g as bs ] | c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: / == Andre - Original Message - From: "Olivier Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding > Thank you Andre for your proposition which constitute a good basis. Slighty > reworking it, I can get an excellent result: > > 8<- > 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 -4 > 1 1 20 0 > > bt > ./ > w120m > Abrpl > \\font\sevenit=cmti7\ > c03l o> of+3 shu+10+2.5 zc- | d+ s+22 Rb // > rb8 \settiny\ [um3+1 c13 D"\sevenit R.H."+19+2 ds es f D"\sevenit > glissando"+22 g as bs c ]j rb4 rb8 | > r4+6 b43 zes e za- as ze+ / > rp+2 of | rbp // > rb4 rb4 rb8 \settiny\ [ju d1s es f g as bs ] | > c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: / > 8<- > > The main difficulty is due to the grace notes. The idea is to insert the > \settiny command to get small notes and it works pretty well. That's an > interesting trick. > > Olivier > > _ > MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! > http://search.fr.msn.ch > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname
If you like other fonts, here is an example( [ = flat, ] = sharp): \font\accid = cmmib10 scaled 1400 \input musixtex \parindent 1.5 cm \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G\accid]}% \startmuflex\startpiece \NOTes\wh p\en \endpiece\endmuflex \bye - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname > Dear friends, > > How can I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the "*" > in the following extract? > > > \input musixtex > > \parindent 1.5 cm > \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}% > \startmuflex\startpiece > \NOTes\wh p\en > \endpiece\endmuflex > \bye > > (The project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires > that the third string be tuned to G#.) > > Regards > Eva > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur
> I'm thinking seriously about handling this matter and others related to it > within PMX, without requiring any new TeX coding. This would be wonderful. I needed this very much in in the last piece of Herzogenberg (small musicsize and many systems on 1 page}. Thanks to the help of members of the list, i could flatten the 1st part, but only after the layout was made. With the method Don proposed, it would go indeed magically. I have read all the items, i understand them (i think) and i see no need to change anything. 'without requiring any new TeX coding': you mean musixps.tex (Stanislav Kneifl) included? Thanks very much Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Re: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip
Sorry, i was absent, i wanted to reach christian Mondrup Andre - Original Message - From: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip > title: Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen > music: Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900) > Claude de Sermisy 1529 > text: geistlich Antwerpen 1540 > > I hope there are few errors. > Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the > hairpins were no more > broken. > > Andre > (I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once) > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip
title: Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen music: Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900) Claude de Sermisy 1529 text: geistlich Antwerpen 1540 I hope there are few errors. Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the hairpins were no more broken. Andre (I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur (again)
Hello, When using lyrics and 'sf', and placing many systems on 1 page it would be nice to flatten the 1st part of a broken slur. I searched pmx.tex, musixps.tex and musixtex.tex for a parameter that does the job, but i did not found how the end point of the first slur is defined. This example is better than my previous one, because here i have to find only the last bar on the first line of the broken slur. This is not hard if the layout of the piece is made already. But still it is a clumsy one, it would be so nice if it could happen automatically (magically). --- %first part flattend breakslur - %must be in the last bar of the line% % \def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\gdef\atnextbar{% \znotes\loff{\psforts1\tslur#1{#2}}\en}\bsk% \gdef\atnextline{\znotes\ifnum#2>3% slur up \isu#1{#2}{4}\else\isd#1{#2}{4}\fi\en}}% --- 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 10 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w50m h200m % pmx break: 1st part to high if using lyrics in staff above a44 suf+5 b d c f g f g sf / % musixtex break: better but not sufficient a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{9}\ c f g f g sf / % using \psforts1 in first part also a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c f g f g sf / % defining the break end by \atnextbar a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c8 c f4 g f g sf / % slur down a44 s-2 b d c8 \mybreakslur0{-1}\ c f4 g f g sf-6 / = Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur
Thanks for your reaction. > If you think about it a bit, there is no way for the line breaking > algorithm to know which shape should be used for the first part of the > slur. The shape is defined when closing the slur. > > Therefore, the only (a bit dirty) solution is to break the slur manually > - close it just before the fixed line break and open another one at the > beginning of the next line. I guess \breakslur creates an endslur, so this one could be flattend? I tried in line TeX, i found that the pmx-slur is highest, the in line breakslur a little lower and the breakslur with the 'sf' feature is the lowest (in the 3th case the slur must be restarted): --- \def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\loff{\psforts1\tslur0g}\bsk}% --- 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 6 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w150 a44 suf+5 b d c f g f g sf / a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{10}\ c f g f g sf / a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{10}\ c \isu0{9}{-2}\ f g f g sf / Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur
When making slurs on linebreaks (system breaks?) with ssf, then only the second part (on the next line is flattened. What could i do to flatten also the first part. This is an example to show it: = 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 2 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w150 a44 su+5 b d c f g f g sf / = The result is on: http://users.pandora.be/avr/contslur.pdf I made also an example with musixpss (The 'sf' is replaced here by 's'): http://users.pandora.be/avr/contpssslur.pdf Thanks in advance for helping me Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] musixlyr and lyrstrutbox
The min distance can be calculated by \vphantom{!y}, filled with the highest en the lowest chars. Below that, the lines will zigzag. Andre --- \input musixtex \input musixlyr \setlyrics{v1}{% Ho-ly God,_ we praise_ thy name!} \setlyrics{v2}{% Hark! the loud_ ce-les_-tial hymn} \setlyrics{v3}{% Ho-ly Fa_-ther, Ho_-ly Son,} --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig, 11 3 4 3 4 0 -1 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 1 16 0 t ./ w5i \\staffbotmarg=53pt\ \\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vrule height 8pt width 0pt}\ \\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vphantom{yM!}}\ \\\atnextbar{\lyrraise{1}{b27pt}}\ \\\assignlyrics{1}{v1,v2,v3}\ f2 f4 / ( f4 e ) f / ( g4 a ) g / f2d / ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - rising duo's
Is it possible with a rising duo to have the bracket and the number closer by each other? === 1 1 6 8 6 80 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w260 g45dx2 a dd / g4-dx2n-1 af dd / g4-dx2n-1 ff dd / == Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] How to setup the with of only one line?
I don't know if this works all the time but this one may help: (attention the lines may be broken by the email) -- 1 1 5 4 0 0 0 0 1 320 .0 t ./ w100m g44 .a [ g8 f ] [ e d ] e4 / b4+ [ b8 g ] [ a a ] [ g a ] b4 / \\let\myalaligne\alaligne\ \\\def\alaligne{\let\alaligne\myalaligne\Stoppiece \advance\hsize-20mm\relax\contpiece}\ L3M b4 [ a8 s b s ] [ g f ] [ e d ] e4 / -- Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b
I have a problem with the new version: the melismas don't take account of the left margin as you can see in this example: http://users.pandora.be/avr/testmelisma.ps I tried this example with a previous version without problems Andre A heavy user of this wonderful addition of musixtex - Original Message - From: "Rainer Dunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b > Hello all, > > the new version 2.1b of musixlyr is now available from the Icking > Archive software page, > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html. > > The one-and-only new feature is the correction of a bug recently > reported by Simon Dreher: At line beginnings, lyrics have been > horizontally misaligned sometimes; they've appeared a bit right-shifted > out of their default position, centered around the notehead. Now they > are centered, no matter how far they extend into the leftward "header" > space of the staff. > > Those of you who have never suffered from this problem don't need to > use this version. > > Best regards, > > Rainer > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx
Again, i am astonished how fast and efficient this problem is solved by Don. I used it in an SATB (with Solo's) piece of 250 bars. I had no trouble to switch back the clef, probably because i use a lot of \\\resetclefsymbols\ and \\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\ commands by changing the number of staffs. Thanks again Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx
Thank you very much for helping. But in my example, with \\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\ or \\\setclefsymbol2\treblelowoct\ the tenor clef is nice at the beginning of a system, but not in the middle of it (by using Ct in pmx) I tried musixtex (\setclef2\treble), but then the the notes are 2 octaves higher than in pmx Of course, i can put an '8' everywhere with a D"8" command, but i like to know if the clefsymbol can be redefined for 'Ct' Thanks again Andre > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx
I want to have an '8' under the treble clef in mesure 7. Thanks in advance for helping Andre === 22 3 4 3 4 0 -5 13 16 .02 B.C. B. bb ./ a4 a g | a a2 | g,g | e4 gs.gsi | a.gs f | g a2 / a2 D"B. Solo"+17 ,a | r4 f.f | g2,g | r4 gs gsi | a.gn f | g a2 / %7 \\\setclefsymbol2\treblelowoct\ d4- d b / d4- Ct b++ D"T. Solo"+18 .d / %8 f4+ r f- | b r r | f+ r f b- c c- | f f+ gs | a2sd / c4.d f1 s e s d s c s | d8 s .c s b4 b8.d | c4.b a | d8 s .b s a1 s1 gs a gsi st g4 st s1 | f4 r r | r f+.c / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - midi, repeats and sharps
In this example, in the last line of code the e sounds as an e sharp (mesure 3 and 5) when i replace the lines e4 r r / by e4ni r r / then the midi sound as it should Even on the repeat, when the midi jumps from m. 1 to 3 it sounds as e-sharp. Of course it is easy to correct, but perhaps it is related with the slur-and-midi problem. Thanks for looking at it Andre === 2 13 4 3 4 0 4 1 1 20 .05 bt ./ It126i1:1 %1 IMR2 b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f / Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes d8 zf r1+2 en zg d4 zf / IM %2 V1 e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl / e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es ] / % IMP2 %3 Vb2 Rr e4+ zg e8- r r4 / %this e4 sounds as an e-sharp: e4 r r / %4 e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl / e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es ] / %5 e4+ zg e8- r r4 / %this e4 also sounds as an e-sharp: e4 r r / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces
> I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i > believe it is > possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but > > all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two > upper voices are > shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin). > > When changing from 2 to 4 instruments, if i do in pmx a \\\spread{-30}\ on the last system with 2 instruments, then the spacing is nice and equal over all systems. The larger the number (i toke 30) the better. It is not necessary to edit the TeX source. I do not know why this happens Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - midi repeat and slur
This is an extract from a sheet to demonstrate a strange (psychotic?) behaviour of the midi output. If removing the last slur, then all goes well. I do not know how to get this right Andre === 2 13 4 3 4 0 4 1 1 20 .05 bt ./ It126i1:1 IMR2 b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f / Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes d8 zf s r1+2 en zg s d4 zf / IM % e44 zg e8- r r4 Rr / e4dd d1 e8 r1+4 es s / IMP2 % e4+ zg e8- r r r / e4 s r r / % ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Reducing number of instruments within a movement
> However, musixlyr wants to attach the second system's words to the > lower voice of the Soprano staff, which is all blank whole-measure > rests. I can switch the notes of the Soprano's top voice with the > rests of its lower voice, but I am wondering if there is another way to > communicate to musixlyr that it should use the top voice of the Soprano > staff to attach lyrics. file3.pmx contains all these changes. I have > tried cancelling the lyric with \\\assignlyrics{3}{}\ before assigning > it again with \\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\ but this has not worked. \\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\lyrmodealter2\ should do it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces
I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i believe it is possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two upper voices are shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin). Is it possible to fix that? Thanks Andre This is the proposed solution in the by pmx produced tex file (the changed lines are marked with --): % Bar count 5 \alaligne \pnotes{2.83}\ql{''C}\ql D\ql E\ql F&\qu c\qu d\qu e\qu f\en% \newmovement00% - \stoppiece%-- \instrumentnumber4%- %\newnoi{4}%--- \setstaffs11% \setclef16% \setstaffs21% \setclef20% \setstaffs31% \setclef30% \setstaffs41% \setclef40% \setname1{Continuo}% \setname2{Sporano}% \setname3{Violino 2}% \setname4{Violino 1}% \akkoladen{{1}{1}{3}{4}}% % Bar 1-2 % Bar count 6 %\newmovement00%--- %\stoppiece% ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Names on every system?
Werner Icking has made such a thing for 'Ave Verum' (Mozart) this is the command: --- \def\namsp{12mm}% \let\ni\nextinstrument% \let\ns\nextstaff% \makeatletter% \newif\ifstaffseparator\staffseparatortrue% [EMAIL PROTECTED] \zcharnote0{\vbox{\hbox{Cb.}\hbox{Org.}}}\ni% \zcharnote2{Viola}\ni% \zcharnote2{Vl.II}\ns\zcharnote4{Vl.I}\ni% \zcharnote0{Bass}\ni% \zcharnote2{Tenor}\ni% \zcharnote2{Alto}\ni% \zcharnote2{Sop.}% %\ifstaffseparator\zcharnote{20}{\vbox{\hbox to 8mm{\leaders\hrule height 3pt\hfill}% % \vskip-7pt\hbox to 8mm{\leaders\hrule height 3pt\hfill}}}% %\else\staffseparatortrue\fi [EMAIL PROTECTED] \makeatother% --- this is a pmx-instrument name (above the clefs definition) \kern -\namsp Bass this is making place for the instruments on every staff \\advance\hsize-\namsp\ The example is on http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/ByComposer/Mozart.html a.. Ave verumfor SATB choir, strings and organ (KV618) - edited by André Van Ryckeghem; with PMX-source Andre pdf.gif Description: Binary data img.gif Description: Binary data info.gif Description: Binary data snd.gif Description: Binary data
Re: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest
Thanks and sorry, i was to fast to ask, i have seen it now in the reference card.I was misleaded by the difference in the 1st and 3th bar Andre - Original Message - From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:38 AM Subject: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest > Neither. RTFM! "ro" suppresses centering a full-bar rest. By the way, the > PMX manual and reference card in PDF format are searchable. > > --Don Simons > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:04 PM > > To: Don Simons; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: centered quarter rest > > > > > > After using > > > > m/1/4/0/0 > > > > a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is > > centered in stead of. > > > > Is this a feature or an error? > > > > Thanks for helping > > > > Andre > > > > == > > 21 4 4 0 6 1 -2 > > 1 1 16 .09 > > Keyboard > > bt > > ./ > > r4 // > > e43 / > > r4-8 // > > g44 / > > % > > rp / > > rp / > > m1/4/0/0 > > r4 // > > e43 / > > r4-8 // > > g44 / > > % > > m4400 > > rp | r2 r4 g // > > e4 c g af | af g b b / > > r4-8 e e.e | d e d es // > > g4.af b c | c.b f g / > > === > > > > > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] centered quarter rest
After using m/1/4/0/0 a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is centered in stead of. Is this a feature or an error? Thanks for helping Andre == 21 4 4 0 6 1 -2 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % rp / rp / m1/4/0/0 r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % m4400 rp | r2 r4 g // e4 c g af | af g b b / r4-8 e e.e | d e d es // g4.af b c | c.b f g / === ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx
Thank you very much Don, You made it clear and very simple, It is perfect for my needs Andre - Original Message - From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx > Is this what you want? > > > 21 4 4 0 6 0 -3 > 1 1 16 .09 > Keyboard > bt > ./ > c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za // > f0- / > a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc / > % > %Cb c2-- zc- rb // > %rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze / > Cb rb4 Ct c44u ze eu za eu za // > c23l zc- rb2 / > e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc / > = > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx
I am trying to change the clefs in a staff with two voices. The best i can do is the following example. I want to use \setclefs from Musixtex, but propably it is redefined in pmx. the result is: overfull boxes and a to high sharp clef Thanks for your help Andre === 21 4 4 0 6 0 -3 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za // f0- / a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc / % Cb c2-- zc- rb // rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze / e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc / === ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas
i tried this, it seems all to be normal 1 13 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 20 .04 t ./ a44 c e s s1 | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s1 b c Rl | Vx a b c / a44 c e s | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s+0-6 s b c Rl | Vx a b c / = Andre - Original Message - From: "Michael Brinkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas > Hi, > > I tried to typeset a score with PMX, which has a slur > beginning before two voltas and ending in _both_ of them, > but I had no success. The second closing of the slur > opens up a new one instead. > > The PMX-code looks like this: > > a c (1 e | V1 a )1 b c Rr | Vb2 a )1 b c Rl | Vx a b c / > > I tried the 's'-symbol for slurs, too (same effect) > > This feature seems not to be implemented yet, am I right? > Is there any chance for me to get the desired behaviour? > > kind regards > Michael > > PS: > the MIDI-file generation algo doesn't cope with the > voltas, too (IMO) > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement
In this example, i think you must choose a white space and let Ae spread the system on the rest of the page ( i toke 40\Interligne) \\let\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\ \\def\Endpiece{\let\Endpiece\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\vskip40\Interligne}\ Andre - Original Message - From: "Hermann Hinsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement Hello, I want to fill the space on a page below the systems of the last movement within a score with blank space. I use Ae for the whole score. Any Solution for this? -- Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX horizontal spacing problem
you must execute 2 tex passes, this is an exmple of a batch fil for doing so: pmx: echo %1 | pmxab C:\"Program Files"\WinEdt\Bin\TeX\mupsview.BAT %1 and mupsview.bat is: if exist %1.mx1 del %1.mx1 if exist %1.mx2 del %1.mx2 C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\TEX.EXE %1.tex %2 if errorlevel 1 goto end C:\musixtex\musixflx %1 if errorlevel 1 goto end C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\TEX.EXE %1.tex %2 C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\DVIPS.EXE -e0 -P pdf -G0 %1.dvi C:\ghostgum\gsview\gsview32.exe %1.ps :end attention, the mail can break the lines Andre - Original Message - From: "Zhanyong Wan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Wan, Zhanyong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: [TeX-music] PMX horizontal spacing problem > Hello, > > I'm new to MusiXTeX and PMX, so forgive me if this question has been > answered before. > > I'm using MiKTeX 2.2 on a Windows XP Professional machine. I installed the > musixtex and musixps packages via MiKTeX Package Manager today, and it seems > to work fine. Then I got PMX 2.40 (Windows binary) from > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html. I tried the > barsant.pmx example coming with it. All steps finished without an error, > but in the result .dvi, the notes all overlap together -- the horizontal > space between the notes is way too small. I don't see this problem if I > create a .tex file using musixtex directly, so I assume the problem is > within PMX. Anyone has any clue? Thanks! > > FYI, I was able to get more reasonable horizontal spacing between notes by > adding this line to the .tex file generated by pmxab, immediately after the > '\input pmx' line: > > \def\pnotes#1{\vnotes30\elemskip} > > However, the space between a bar and the following note is still too small. > Any help is appreciated! > > - Zhanyong Wan > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx
I was curious how pmx could help, even for raw musixtex code. So i compared the pmx code with the others. I made a pmx file and used the intermediaire tex-code. This is the result with, if i am right, the right spacing: pmx: == 1 13 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 .04 t ./ [u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] | [u-16+5 b ds--- s e s ][ b+ d g ] / === and the (working) musixtex file with the original problem, the file of Jean-Pierre Coulon en the tex code produced by pmx(perhaps the lines could be broken because of the mail format): === \input musixtex \instrumentnumber1 \bigaccid\startmuflex\startpiece\systemnumbers% % % Evita's problem % \notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0% \qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en% \notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en\bar% % % solution by pmx % \notes\ibbu1{'a}1\bigna b\qb1b\bigsh{`f}\qb1f\tbbu1\qb1g% \nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1e\tbu1\qb1g\en% % \notes\loff{\ibbu1{`e}5}\qb1{'''b}\islurd0{```d}\bigsh d\qb1d% \tslur0e\tbbu1\qb1e\nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1d\tbu1\qb1g\en% % % solution by Jean-Pierre Coulon % \notes\ibbu0L6\roff{\qb0p}% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en % \Stoppiece\eject\bye == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] problem with magnified circle
In the music sheet Melodie in F-dur (Anton Rubensten) on the Icking site, for installing the accordion registers, i used the \circ command (char 13 in cmsy font): \font\cmsy = cmsy10 scaled 2400\chardef\ci=13 --> \csmy\ci in pdf it looks nearly allright on the screen, but when i print it, it becomes an vertical ellips, should this be me, using the wrong fonts? in dvi i think it is alright Andre (perhaps the accordion symbols exists and i am doing to much work) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX/MusixTeX with pdftex
My acrobat reader is 5.0.0. If i see the slurs in the ps file (gsview) and then make a ps2pdf (the script), then on the screen, it happens that some slurs dissapear, but when i print the sheet (HP MP5), the they are present. As an example the sheet 'Kerstgloria' (Ludo Claesen) on the Icking site: on the preview i can see the slur above the last system of the 1st page De .pdf file does not show that slur on the screen in acrobat, but when i print it, it is there. Andre - Original Message - From: "Arjen Bax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] PMX/MusixTeX with pdftex > Michael Brinkmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote Saturday, > January 18, 2003 11:44 AM: > > > However, if I use "pdftex" together with pmx instead of plain tex, the > > slur in the first line of code is not displayed in the PDF-viewer. > > Not only in pdftex, but also with dvipdfm the slur does not show up in > Acrobat 5.x. > > > May this be a bug in the ps-fonts of musixtex? > > No, it is a bug in Acrobat Reader 5.x: it does not display slurs that > are horizontal, i.e., that start and end on the same note height. I > suspect that this is caused by an "optimization" in Acrobat Reader: > "characters with height 0 don't display". The slurs show up correctly > when viewed with Ghostscript and in Acrobat Reader 4.x, which can be > obtained from the Icking Archive, as indicated on the "Introduction" > page. > > HTH, > Arjen > > > -- > Arjen Bax | LogicaCMG B.V. NNL | Postbus 70237 | 9704 AE Groningen | > Eemsgolaan 1 | 9727 DW Groningen | The Netherlands | ICQ # 171090809 | > TEL +31-50-5219500 | FAX +31-50-5219501 | WEB http://www.logicacmg.com > Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. -- Isaac Asimov > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx
This is how i do it in pmx = 1 13 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 .04 t ./ [u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] | [u-10h b ds-- e ][ b d g ] / === Andre - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam Dear friends, I'm trying to typeset a semiquaver sextuplet figure in two groups of three notes, with the lower of the two beams interrupted between note stems three and four. This is no problem in the case of a straightforward upper or lower beam, as in the following: \startextract \notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0% \qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en \endextract However, when the beam starts out as a lower beam and terminates as an upper beam, the results are unfortunate: \startextract \notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en \endextract Can anyone suggest a workaround that forces the *lower* of the two beams to be interrupted in this example? Thanks in advance Eva Downloadable guitar edition of J.S. Bach, Lute Suite BWV 995: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/bach/bwv995/bwv995cg.pdf -- "People think that I can teach them style. What stuff it all is! Have something to say, and say it as clearly as you can. That is the only secret of style." --- Matthew Arnold (1898), quoted in David and Hilary Crystal's "Words on Words" (2000) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] dotted barline
Christian Mondrup told me to use pstricks for special lines (if using postscript): \input pstricks \def\PSL#1#2#3{\pslinewidth.3pt\psset{xunit=1\noteskip,yunit=1\Interligne}%\ \zchar{#3}{~~~\psline[linestyle=dashed](#1,#2)}}\ and then at a staff: \PSL{0}{4}{0} % horizontal distance, vertical distance, higth on the staff (or \PSL040) Of course one has yo play a litlle wth ie the tildes ~~~ and so on there is an example of such lines (pmx) in kinderstucke 1 (Mendelsohn) at the Icking site Andre - Original Message - From: "Hiroaki MORIMOTO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: [TeX-music] dotted barline > Hello all, > > This is a relay of a question from a MusiXTeX user in Japan. > > > I want to write "dotted barline" for supplementary sectioning > > in the bar. > > Is such command implemented in MusiXTeX? > > Does anyone know? > > Certainly I had seen dotted barline in a score too; > But I can't remember what was it. > > Best regards, > > > Hiroaki MORIMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX
In my system the arpeggio's have more than 1 name. I have to check the tex source to be sure. This is an example of i (the first is 'raisearp' the second is 'arpeggio'). = 2 1 4 4 0 6 0 0 0 4 20 0.07 bt ./ \\let\rap\arpeggio\let\arp\raisearp\ a23 ? zc r2 | d2f<.4 zg-f ? c4 b / \def\raisearp#1#2{\loffset{.8}{\arp{#1}{#2}}\let\raisearp\arp}\ e24 zfs za ? r2 | \def\arpeggio#1#2{\loffset{1}{\rap{#1}{#2}}\let\arpeggio\rap}\ b4+ ? a8 b g4f a8 b / === Andre - Original Message - From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:03 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX > Michael-- > > I tried Olivier's solution (Thanks, Olivier!) and it worked fine for me. I > don't think your software versions are a problem, although MikTeX is up to > 2.2 now I think. Did you cut and paste Olivier's example exactly as he > posted it? If so, then I suggest you post the resulting TeX to the list. If > not, I suggest you do, then report back. > > One thing you might check is whether you have an obsolete pmx.tex somewhere > in your search path (tho I don't know exactly how that could cause your > problem). > > --Don Simons > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Michael Brinkmann > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:09 AM > > To: 'Olivier Vogel'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX > > > > > > Hello Olivier, > > > > > In such cases, it suffices to redefine locally the macro you > > > want to modify > > > (here \raisearp). If you combine this macro with \loffset, > > > you can move the > > > arpeggio to the left. Here is your example corrected: > > > [...] > > > > many thanks for your info. I tried it out, but it didn't > > change anything in the look of the dvi-output. > > > > I am using MikTeX 1.20e, MusixTeX 108 and PMX 240. > > Do I have to update any of these? > > > > kind regards > > Michael > > > > > > ___ > > TeX-music mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] musixpss ver.0.50 is now available
> Comments, suggestions, bug reports, etc. are welcome. > Best regards, It feels as i am getting new jear's gifts, the new updatings of musixtex and musixpss. They all work very well. I am curriuos about the following: I did some tests about musixpss. I compiled 'Die beste Zeit' on the standard way as explained in the html file: The file diebeste.ps (made with dvips) is 102Kb. diebeste.pdf (made by dvipdf) is 70 Kb (this one is on the Icking site) diebeste.pdf (made by pspdf) is 39 Kb I used also the second method (omitting the last TeX pass): The file diebeste.ps (made with dvips) is 102Kb. diebeste.pdf (made by dvipdf) has nos slurs, off course diebeste.pdf (made by pspdf) is 39 Kb My question is: why is the dvipdf made file larger than the pspdf made file ? Thanks for reading all this Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] did not know Finale was for free
I bought it because it could make notes from midi (it did so, but i could do nothing with the midi but listening to it). I could not manage to have a page layout, it went all on 1 line. I could not make an upbeat on the 1st mesure. It was tedious to place text on the notes. The only thing i could do was running the examples (in Musixtex, if i can run the examples, i know enough to start edit the music). I got help by a friend, but he found a nice pagelayout not important and so on. I did not much effort to learn it, because the output is inferior to Musixtex. I see music sheets made by Finale with only 1 musicline on the last page, with no slurs on the notes and so on and if there are errors on it (this one is no exclusivity for Finale users) they usually are corrected with a pencil. Andre But i realise there are mouse minded (and younger?) people who prefer wisywig editors. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:03:27 +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Andre >(who did not know Finale was for free. > I believe there is a scaled-down variant (with seriously limited functionality) that one can download for nothing. The full version still costs a mint, though. >I bought it once and could not work with it) I'm with you, Andre. I tried Finale once and hated it. Half of the gradient of the learning curve involved in mastering it seemed to result from the programmers' insistence on flouting every single Windows convention they could find (like which functions to put in which menu, like allowing one to delete things by selecting with the mouse and hitting the "Delete" key) and on burying basic, frequently needed functions five levels deep in the menu hierarchy and making the user wade through reams of PDF documentation to find out where exactly they'd put them. I took one look and decided that if I was going to be facing a steep learning curve anyway, I'd just as soon have a learning curve that wasn't 50% due to poor design, and I'd just as soon not pay for the privilege! The rest, more or less, is history... Eva Downloadable guitar edition of J.S. Bach, Lute Suite BWV 995: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/bach/bwv995/bwv995cg.pdf -- "People think that I can teach them style. What stuff it all is! Have something to say, and say it as clearly as you can. That is the only secret of style." --- Matthew Arnold (1898), quoted in David and Hilary Crystal's "Words on Words" (2000) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests
I compiled a number of large (pmx)files. I saw nothing wrong This is my system: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (MiKTeX 2.1) (preloaded format=plain 2002.12.28) 5 JAN 2003 07:52 MusiXTeX(c) T.111 <3 Jan. 2003> on WindowsXP and Winedt And thanks for the beautiful program Andre (who did not know Finale was for free. I bought it once and could not work with it) - Original Message - From: "Daniel Taupin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mutex list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: [TeX-music] I want your tests > Hello: > Appended if my proposal for a further version of musixtex.tex. > Before posting it officially, I would like to as to all of you to test > it, in place of the T109 ot T110 versions you may have. Some command > structures have been changes and it does not fail in some of my > examples, but other tests would be welcome. > > Note that this includes musixbm features, so that inclusion of musixbm > of NOT useful, and even not recommended. > > It should be especially tested with HUGE tests, in order to check that > it does not cause errors du to number of registers exhausted. But also > with weird musics, under LaTeX. > > ---> Hope to get positive or failing answers. Thanks. > > -- > > > Daniel Taupin, 91400 ORSAY - France > E-mail= mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home/fax: (33)1.60.10.26.44. Rep.: (33)1.60.10.04.13, fax (work) > (33)1.69.15.60.86 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] typesetting accordion music
I am interested also. Do you mean the notes or the names of the chords? I did some accordion in pmx (Dance at the Moskawa, Sternpolka, Wien du Stadt.., Susser die Glocken... in the Icking site), i used musixlyr or/and the D-command and a few macros. ie: \def\CH#1#2{~~\lower3pt\vbox{\hbox{#1}\vskip2pt\hbox{\hskip1pt #2}}} to stack the name of the bassnote and the name of the rest of the chord. Andre A merry Christmas and a happy New Year! - Original Message - From: "Norbert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: [TeX-music] typesetting accordion music Hello, I want to typeset accordion music. Does anyone know an easy way or some macro for the bass-notation? A merry Christmas and a happy New Year! Norbert ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem
For some obscure reason, i was using one old version of musixlyr (MusiXLYRics 2.0a To: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem > Hello Andre, > > hmm - I can't reproduce your problem. The only difference between with > and without \lyrmodealter is that the lyrics are synchronized either > with the soprano or with the alto voice. > > I'll attach here my DVI output and the .tex and .log files so that you > can compare software versions and possible other differences, in order > to analyze what goes wrong. > > Best regards, > > Rainer > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:58:00AM +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the >line (by removing > > '\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal). > > Am i doing something wrong? > > > > == > > --- > > \input musixtex > > \input pmx > > \input musixlyr > > \input musixcho > > % > > \setlyrics{refrein}% > > {Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd > > staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid > > en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed > > 't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed. > > } > > \lyrmodealter2 > > \assignlyrics2{refrein} > > --- > > 2 2 4 4 0 6 1 0 > > 1 2 20 .0 > > > > > > bt > > ./ > > w100m > > e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r // > > e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r / > > e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 // > > e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c / > > > > > > Thanks fot helping > > > > Andre > > > > ___ > > TeX-music mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem
In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the line (by removing '\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal). Am i doing something wrong? == --- \input musixtex \input pmx \input musixlyr \input musixcho % \setlyrics{refrein}% {Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed 't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed. } \lyrmodealter2 \assignlyrics2{refrein} --- 2 2 4 4 0 6 1 0 1 2 20 .0 bt ./ w100m e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r // e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r / e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 // e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c / Thanks fot helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx: big and small accidentals
Thank you very much everyone for reacting and helping on this. > It has occurred to me from time to time that a default-override file might > be useful. There are a few drawbacks, though. Now, the output from a given > pmx file depends *only* on the binary, and that's a very good thing. Among > other advantages, that makes problem-solving via the list a whole lot > easier. Anyone with the same binary will get the same tex file. Yes, it's > true that the dvi file will depend on pmx.tex, and by the way have you > noticed how many times over the years a stray, outdated pmx.tex has caused > problems? pmx.tex is a necessary evil, but it seems to me that maintaining > the status quo is the best course in this area, rather than introducing > another kind of local installation dependence, and one that's not really > necessary. > I am happy with the current method. I feel more for an option that can read a (named) pmx input file. This file could be used also as an extension for (large) macros. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx: big and small accidentals
In the Stehle mass, in the credo, Christian mondrup mentioned me (among many other errors) an odd sound by prolongation notes. I think the reason of this is that there are to few ties to connect and some notes sounds twice. So, nothing is to change. (the ties/slurs are not connected on all the notes, because on an other place i need 17 of them and only(!) 13 are allowed) But i see something other: The accidentals sometimes are big, sometimes are small. Are there rules to get them all at the same size? This is an example with accidentals with different sizes: === 2 14 4 6 0 0 2 1 1 20 .04 bt ./ Ar w80m It90i20:20 % c0f-- s3t zc+f<1 s1t // e0f st zcf<1 za zfn<2 zef / X.5 a2de+ sl-2-1 za+e s1u [+2 g8- zg+ f- zf+ ] // c0+f<1.6 zef<1 stl / % c2f<1 s1t s2 zcf- s3t b4+ s2 b+ s // X.5 e2f zfn<2 za zcf<1 zef st s1 d4 s1 zb zg cne / f2n- s1+6 s-1 s g4 s g // f2n s3 zef st zcf d4 zg s3 en s / === thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap - more questions
> > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/ Thanks for the information, i should have found this myself. > As for the slur problem So I guess I really > ought to deal with this. 1. On the first part of the breaking if the slur is in the lower part of the staff he (she?) goes down a little bit. On the upper part he goes up. Has this a reason? 2. I experimented with s...s slurs (not st..st). In my example, setting the width to w23m, i noticed that the shortest (ful) slur is one notehead long. Is it possible to redifine a short continuation slur to such one (a full slur at the start of a line)? But it seems they cannot be lowerd, see adapted example (s1l(ow) and s1-3 does not work). I ran it as is, and also edited with s1l or s1-3 . 3. In older pieces i used a lot of tt...tt ties . Now the tt's are no more possible, is this wanted? 4. I tried also \\input musixpss.tex\ there the continuation slurs are normal slurs with thin ends on both sides and a bold middle. == 4 44 4 6 0 0 2 1 2 20 .04 bttt ./ Apl %\\input musixpss.tex\ w23m %135 g43 s g s g a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / % L2 f4 s r2d / c4 s1-0-1 s1 s r2d / a4s s r2d / f4+ s1-3-1 s1-3 s-3 r2d / and thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap
Thank you very much for helping, Olivier and Christian, but I downloaded Don's pmx2407.zip. In the pmxbeta.html it is mentioned that a new pmx.tex is needed in pmx2406, i did not found that one. I tried pmx240.tex (with pmx2407.exe) but i see no improvement in using Apl. Yes, adding a space helps, but the drawback here is, when the code is changed elsewhere (and the new line is taken on an other place) the X1.5 is no more needed (and will propably not be removed). thanks again Andre (who in the future will download the new version more often for not missing the new parts) - Original Message - From: "Christian Mondrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap > Olivier Vogel wrote: > > Don Simons has solved this problem since the version 2.401 of PMX. > > Active the postscript slurs with the option Apl instead of Ap. > > > > For more information, look at > > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/pmxbeta.html > > and then if you think the continuation slur is still too narrow - which > I do - you may improve by simply right offsetting the first note of the > next staff: > > bttt > ./ > Apl > w30m > %135 > g2.a s / > g24 .a s / > g24 .a s / > g24 .a s / > % > L2 > X1.5 f4 s r2d / > c4 s r2d / > a4s s r2d / > f4+ s-3 r2d / > > > -- > Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer > Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus > Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark > Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org > > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap
I must confess, i do not know how to work with Ap in pmx. I there somebody who can get the breaking slurs right in the following example? Without Ap they look ok. == 4 44 4 6 0 0 2 1 2 20 .04 bttt ./ Ap w30m %135 g2.a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / % L2 f4 s r2d / c4 s r2d / a4s s r2d / f4+ s-3 r2d / == thanks in advance Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] x-tuplet problem in PMX
1 1 2 2 0 6 0 0 1 1 16 0.0 t ./ \\let\clsav\cl\ a24x3 b cs d2x6Dn3 g f e d | ex6n3 f e d c b aux6Dn3 \def\XB{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\ibl2{!##1}{-1}\let\cl\clsav\qb2{!##1}}}\ \XB\ a+ \def\XM{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\qb2{##1}}}\ \XM\ g \XM\ f %\def\XE{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\tbl2\qb1{##1}}}\ \tbl2\XM\ e | / little bit messy, sorry Andre - Original Message - From: "Bernhard Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [TeX-music] x-tuplet problem in PMX > In the following code I have two problems with x-tuplets: > > 1) The last four notes in the first bar are not beamed as I would like > them to be. I didn't find a way to convince PMX or musicTeX to do this. > > 2) The quarter note in the second bar should be up up-stem. An u-option in > the xtuplet before the 'D' results in an error message, behind the 'D' it > is ignored, at least there's no visible change. > > Am I missing something? > > Bernhard > > > 1 1 2 2 0 6 0 0 > 1 1 16 0.0 > > t > ./ > > a24x3 b cs d2x6Dn3 g f e d | ex6n3 f e d c b ax6Dn3 a+ g f e | / > > > > Bernhard Lang | Physical Chemistry Departement, Sciences II > 21, Avenue du Denantou | University of Geneva; 30, Quai Ernest Ansermet > CH-1006 Lausanne, Suisse | CH-1211 Geneva 4, Switzerland > TEL/FAX: +41(0)21 601 3657 | TEL +41(0)22 702-6535, FAX -6518 >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest
Thank you very much, Olivier and Don i used this line: r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-2 \tbu2\ c s1 \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ] r4 / for the code ( the slope adapted a mentioned Don with +4, for not disturbing to muxh the midi) and for making the midi better: r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-1 \tbu2\ cD s1 ] r4 / The last 'cD' sounds to long, but this is hardly to hear on a piano. In any case the synchronising of the 2 hands is right. And thanks for simulation of the trios with an adapted beat, this i should not have found it myself. Andre (i uploaded this piece (componist Heller) ) - Original Message - From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:11 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest > You could get the beam angle a little better on the altered group with > > r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ e ] > > Also, note that in this special case there was no need to save and restore > the original definitions of \tbu and \qb but this will not always be the > case. > > --Don Simons > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music-admin@;sunsite.dk]On > > Behalf Of Olivier Vogel > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:08 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest > > > > > > Producing a score that looks fine and producing a sound file that sounds > > fine are very different tasks. The main task of PMX is the first one: > > producing handily a beautiful score. The midi files produced by PMX are > > essentially useful to detect the eventual errors in the score by hearing. > > > > So, I think you have to decide which aspect you want to privilege : > > 1) the quality of the score (what realises the measure 1) > > 2) or the quality of the sound file (what realises the measure 2) > > > > In fact, PMX serves the first task and not the second one. The better > > solution is to use it for producing good score and to use another > > program to > > modificate manually the midi file got with PMX. > > > > Here is my proposition for your example: > > > > > > 2 12 4 2 4 0 -4 > > 1 2 20 .02 > > > > bt > > ./ > > w100m > > % tempo = 60 > > It60ipipi > > %1 looks right, sounds badly > > a82 ze+ .ea a e / > > r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ] r4 / > > > > %2 sounds right, looks badly (very differently) > > % tempo = 60 * 1.5 = 90 > > It90 > > L2M > > m12/1/12/16 a82d s a1d s e1d+ a8d e8d // > > e83d s e1d s r1db r4db / > > r1 [ c- e ] [u a c ] r r4d / > > > > > > Olivier > > > > > > _ > > MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! > > http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp > > > > ___ > > TeX-music mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest
In pmx the last item of a xtuplet cannot be a rest. This example will only run if the fisrt bar is removed. Is it possible to solve the problem of the 1st bar *and* preserving the midi? (this is a difficult sequens for a (novice) piano player; in the second mesure i tried to produce it as close as i could, but the last 'c' must be replaced by a rest) Thanks for helping Andre 2 12 4 2 4 0 -4 1 1 20 .02 bt ./ w100m %1 a82 ze+ .ea a e / r8x3 c e [u ax3nf c ] r r4 / %2 replace the rest by a note: a82 ze+ .ea a e / r8x3 c e [u ax3nf c st c st ] r4 / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K
I have examples with 200 slurs, it goes all well, but i do not hold my breath during processing. The many files are a drawback. It is not possible to delete them in 1 command. If they were gathered in a directory, it should be easier, but of course i am only the one who tells how to do it (better), not the maker. Andre - Original Message - From: "Christof Biebricher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K > On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > > Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ? > > > As I said, there is a solution; it just is not automatic > and thus labor-intensive. I have used musixpss but did not dare > to use it for the Kunst der Fuge. Die Kunst der Fuge has several > thousand ties and maybe 50 slurs and I do not know how well > musixpss would handle such a large number. I considered to reduce > the number of ties by using dotted notes. However, Bach wrote his > music this way and when playing I see the reason why he did so. > > Christof > > > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K
Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ? Andre - Original Message - From: "Christof Biebricher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K > Dear all: > > I work on improving older typesets. Because the > Kneifl-type (pmx: Ap) ties look much better and cause less interference > with notes or beams, I chose them. However, they have a setback; > If the notes to be tied are close, the tie gets reduced > to an almost invisible little hook. If a line break separates > the tie, the end of the tie is also nearly invisible. Of course, > there is a remedy: simply convert those ties to slurs which come > out too short. This turned out in some cases to be > a lot of repair and I wonder whether it is possible to > introduce a lower bound into the tie length-calculating algorithm. > > Christof > > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Pmx-MusixTeX: instruments with no coherent bar division
I want bar and meterchanges in random staffs. The \Showbarrule (with \changecontext) repeats the meterchange on every staff, which i don't want. In this example there is a meterchange on a single bar at synchronised barlines and also one within a bar. I made this by trial and error, using TeX commands, but i am sure there is a better way to do this. I will be grateful for any hint on this. Andre --- \def\meq{\smalltype\tinynotesize\metronequiv{\lqu}{\qu}} \def\mbar{\vrule height 4\Interligne depth 0pt width 0.3pt} --- 4 4 9 4 9 9 0 5 1 1 16 0 B T A S bttt ./ \\sepbarrules\ rp / e8 f g a b c b2 a4 g8 s f g a g4 s / r2 r4 r2 r4 r2 e4+ Df+16 / rp / % \hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 r4 / \hsk\llap{\loffset{0.5}{\meterfrac{3}{2}}}\ r4 D"\meq"+14-4 f e d e f \hsk\llap{\mbar\meterfrac{3}{4}}\ r D"\meq"+14-3 r8 b b a / \hsk\ b8 c d e f g f2 e4 \hsk\ d8 s c d e d4 s / \hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 b4+ Df+16 / = ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] fermata over a barline
An example of use is when one want to indicate that the singer way wait (a little) between 2 strophes of a song: then the fermata is on the last bar. This is what i use. (\ferma : after the last note; \fermb : before the first note) 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ \\def\ferma{\sk\off{\beforeruleskip}\loffset{0.5}{\fermataup{8}}\off{-\beforeruleskip}\bsk}\ \\def\fermb{\off{-\afterruleskip}\loffset{0.5}{\fermataup{8}}\off{\afterruleskip}}\ g04 \off{\noteskip}\fermataup7\off{-\noteskip}\ g g g / g04 \ferma\ g g \fermb\ g / Andre - Original Message - From: "David Raleigh Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Staffan Lundberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] fermata over a barline > On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:14:56 Staffan Lundberg wrote: > > Problem: To place a fermata sign over a barline. > > How to solve this in M-Tx? > > > > Staffan Lundberg. > > Why? A fermata extends the time value of a note. > A barline has no time value, but indicates the > first beat. Are you extending the note on the > first beat of the following measure? I didn't > think so. > > I am really curious. Why do you want to > do this, and what it is supposed to mean? DaveA > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Case of the missing characters in lcgpmx.pdf...solved!
In my acrobat 5, the greek text was default off, so i was not aware of the problem Andre - Original Message - From: "Arjen Bax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] Case of the missing characters in lcgpmx.pdf...solved! > Jean-Pierre Coulon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > > But they show up correctly in Acrobat 5 ! > > Ah! But is your option "use greek text" selected or unselected? I'm > using Acrobat Reader 5.0.5, and when I switched the greek text back on > again (the first thing I did when installing the Reader was switching > off both greek text and the splash screen) the slurs in figures 2.19 and > 2.20 vanished, as Don described. > > Greetz, > Arjen > > -- > Arjen Bax | CMG Noord-Nederland B.V. | Postbus 70237 | 9704 AE Groningen > | Eemsgolaan 1 | 9727 DW Groningen | The Netherlands | TEL > +31-50-5219500 | FAX +31-50-5219501 | WEB http://www.cmg.nl > Emacs is a great operating system---it lacks a good editor, though. > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx "bug" report
Replacing 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 by 1 1 4 2 4 2 0 -1 solves the problem By the way, what is the most common symbol for a double not, have we to change the shape with: \\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\ Andre - Original Message - From: "Bernhard Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: [TeX-music] pmx "bug" report > Hi Don > > A message "Program error in fnote, send source to Dr. Don" missleaded me > for a minute until i realised that i'd just forgotten to put a meter > change. But maybe this tells you something else hidden behind the sceene. > Here's the extract giving the same error message. > > --- > 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 > 0 7 16 0.1 > > b > ./ > g92 of Rd / > --- > > And a question concerning the limitation of 12 voices: I'd like to type a > piece with 14 voices where 2 x 4 vocal voices could be packed together in > 2 x 2 lines (four choirs, voices: BC + 4 + 4 + 3 + 2 ==> lines: BC + 2 + 2 > + 3 + 2). With musixtex or pmx plus inline tex it workes, but it is > awfully tiresome. Is there another limitation on the number of voices > inside pmx, else than musixtex' limitation? > > regards > Bernhard > > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - cords in whole notes and longer notes
Is it possible yo have cords in whole notes and ornaments? They seem to flip below the staff. And to shift a close note in a double whole note cord? This is what happens at my place: 11 6 2 6 2 0 -1 1 1 20 .09 b ./ % e2- f e9 of ze / %with zer \\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\ e2 f za of e9 of zer / %with whole notes e2 f o> e0 o> of ze e0 of zer / %whole notes without cords e2 f e0 of e0 of / e2 f e0 of e0 of zf / e2 f e9 of zf / m10/2/0/0 e2 f e9 of \bsk\hsk\ fe / === Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: Fingering in PMX (was RE: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?)
1 In piano pieces there are rarely fingernumbers left of the notes. Even with cords, they are stacked above or beneath the chord. If they are between the notes, then the music becomes less readable. 2 I (always) use an 8 pt (postscript)font 3 ... and stacked digits (hight ref on lower digit if above the chord, ...)? 4 I understand the advantage of using the accidental method is that the fingers are placed automatically. If they collide with the accidentals, are they placed then after the notes? Also the o command algorithm puts the symbols nicely above the staff or above the notes (but not the notes with a (shorted) stem above a staff. But i am an amateur, i follow the ideas of the professionals Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?- using the D command
There are examples of piano pieces in the icking site(Chopin,Schuman, Schubert,Benoit, Grieg,...), the commands are in the file mypmxdef.tex. I use them in pmx and Musixtex. Something else: it would be nice if the D-command in pmx that start with a figure should have a tiny (finger)font and that in that case the "..." are not used. This is already done in simular thing as Dp Dmp .. they have the \ppff font. Fingercommands then could be something as: D4+3-.2 ... D"\tinyfont \t{45}" is to be done at the old way I know, i mentioned this before, who am i to ask such things, not knowing if it is possible to do it. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX : local "transposition"
I used something as \relax{\advance\transpose2\zcharnote{#3}{1}} but if you make a working file , then i could search for a method Andre - Original Message - From: "TORRI Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX : local "transposition" > Hello, > > I would like to write a macro which can put above each note linked by a > beam, a number (without giving the pitch of this number...). Example : > >1 3 >o o >| | >| | >|_| > > i've tried > \def\vtj#1#2#3#4{\ibl{0}{#2}{#1}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{1}}\qb{0}{#3} > \tbl{0}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{3}}\qb{0}{#4}} > > The first number is correctly put, but not the second. I certainly don't > understand how to use \transpose several times. Idon't know how it > really works. > Does someone know how to do that ? > > Vincent TORRI > > -- > TORRI Vincent > Mathematiques Appliquees Bordeaux > Institut de Mathematiques > Universite Bordeaux 1 > 351 cours de la liberation > 33 405 Talence cedex - France > > Tel : 33 (0)5 57 96 21 42 > Fax : 33 (0)5 56 84 26 26 > -- > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help
I did not know it was so easy to do it, it is just what i need. Thank you very much Christof. Andre - Original Message - From: "Christof Biebricher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > > -In the following example, how can i remove one beam from the first trio (i like >it to have the same > > view as the last one)? > > Would it help if i could force the beam multiplicity to 0 (now it is 1-4)? > > > > -The last trio: the second note is not dotted > > > > > > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 > > 0 2 20 0 > > > > t > > ./ > > a24x4n3 eF d a4+x3n3 e d a4+x4n3 eF d / > > a0+x4n3 eF d / > > === > > > Dear Andre: > I do not understand your intention. Do you want a triolet? > Is so why don't you use the normal notation? > > a24x3 ed d a4+x3 e d a4+x3 ed d / > a0+x3 ed d / > > F is intended for a inaccurate notation used often in older > music (2+1 instead of 3+1): dotted appearance with the spacing > of a triolet. > Christof > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help
-In the following example, how can i remove one beam from the first trio (i like it to have the same view as the last one)? Would it help if i could force the beam multiplicity to 0 (now it is 1-4)? -The last trio: the second note is not dotted 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 0 2 20 0 t ./ a24x4n3 eF d a4+x3n3 e d a4+x4n3 eF d / a0+x4n3 eF d / === Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?
I copied this file to C:\psfonts and to C:\localtexmf\fonts\type1\musixtex Now it works, thank you very much Takanori Uchiyama Andre (i tried the pc version and the unix version on the icking site, neither of them is working) - Original Message - From: "Takanori Uchiyama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ? > From: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ? > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:32:38 +0200 > > > Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file > > (if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb, then the the ps file is ok) > > I think that xslhd24.pfb was broken. Please try following. > http://macptex.appi.keio.ac.jp/~uchiyama/musixps/xslhd24.pfb.gz > -- > Takanori Uchiyama, PhD > Dept. Applied Physics & Physico-Informatics, > Fac. Science & Technology, KEIO University > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?
I (re)downloaded musixps.zip (4.5MB) from http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html I ran the batchfile to install (Miktex) and refreshed the database. Everything goes well, except when i choose \largemusicsize and using dvips, i got the error: Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file (if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb, then the the ps file is ok) Did i something wrong? Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] tying a dotted note
> Has anybody a couple of hours to waste for a test, to convince me > how PMX is more efficient than MusiXTeX ? > > Just typeset the first two pages of Dussek's sonata op.35#3, present > on our Archive, so that it still fits on only *two* pages. > (The MusiXTeX source is also available) > I can do it but this week i am in a (Bach)song course, and i only have time at night. On Saturday i can have it. I do not see why you should not fit a piece on two pages in pmx, if you can do it in musixtex. You also may have a look at Beethoven's allegro molto ( the 4 hands part and also ie. piano 1, with 8 systems on a page) I know what large job you did and i admire it veru much. The last sheet i did on musixtex was Laudate Domininum (Mozart), then Werner Icking convinced me to pmx, my production of sheets is now 1000 times faster (or is it 100 times?), and a little bit more accurate, because i can listen to the midifiles. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] experiment on slurs
I am afraid i do not understand yet the slur mechanism (but never dared to confess) i.e. Ap+t : is the adjustment autmatically (for dotted notes) or is it to allow t+0+1 ? > Thanks for these comparisons, Andre. I am happy that i can use pmx (musixtex). I have a great admiration for the programms and the makers. I'll only comment about exodusaplt. > The "l" option in "Apl+t" only alters the line-breaking ties, while +t > affects all ties; neither one affects slurs at all. the l and +t option can not be used together? The tie at bar 44 looks > fine to me. the tie at the soprano is half a note lower than in the two other ps files (is the difference between tie and slur that the tie start right and ends left of the note?) With some more work I could make "l" apply to slurs as well. > It looks like line-break slurs would also benefit by having the 2nd part > start further to the left than the default. Unfortunately, I would also > need to work out an algorithm for the height of the beginning of the 2nd > part as well; this was a "no-brainer" for ties since they always end at the > same height they start. Would you or anyone else care to suggest an > algorithm for the height of the second part of a line-break slur? perhaps let them be horizontal (as is the first part), then the height is given by the end of the slur (and easy to change by the user) > The bow of the slurs can be lessened with the "f" option. If you use that in > the tenor in bars 33-34, you may cause a crash with the tie. Then you > should tweak the height of the tie. But now you may not be able to get it > exactly where you want it (down by 1\internote) because using Ap+t may not > allow it. That's exactly why I made \Notieadjust (Ap-t) the default in PMX. I believe the bow of the tie is 2 internotes and this can not be less ? But yes, i forgot to use the f option (f stands for flatter, h for higher and H for more higher an HH ...?) I feel i have no right to nitpick (searched this word in a dictonary). I waited long for slanted hairpins, and now we have them together with slurs that have a large, nice vertical range. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] experiment on slurs
I did an experiment on the slurs on my latest sheet exodus. The results are in users.pandora.be in 3 postscriptfiles See the second page (numbered as 3) mesure 32, 33 and 44 Sorry if i did not understood the new options and used them wrong. exodusorg.ps - with no options The slurs are nice and break well. The bow is rather high. exodusaplt.ps - option Apl+t The slurs are nice but do not break that well (mesure 44). The bow is even more high. exoduspss.ps - option \\input musixpss\relax\ The slurs are a little thin (for me), but acceptable, they break nicely. They are very flat (33), which is for me an advantage. Perhaps a drawback is that they produces many files, with no easy method to delete them in a command. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmw - 2 'how to' questions
I apologize if these are dumb questions, but I can't find the answer. 1. How can i spread a chord over 2 staffs (i know it is possible in musixtex)? 2. How can i produce an arpeggio when trios are involved (getting to work something as 'a4x3 ? a a' )? Thanks for responding to tis Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics
other changing of space in lyrics (in \setlyrics): moving down a word : \lower2pt\hbox{word.} moving up: \raise3pt\hbox{word} moving left: \kernm3ptword moving right: \kern3ptword (or ~word) Andre - Original Message - From: "Kurt Kehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rainer Dunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Rainer Dunker wrote: > > >\verses{,\lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em},,,% > > \lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em}}% > > Thank you. This is wonderful. > > > By the way: You can skip over notes within \setlyrics even with a simple > > '~' instead of \empty{}, which makes writing and reading your score > > somewhat easier. > > I will put this to use also. Thanks again for taking the time to work > through the examples I had posted. > > Kurt Kehler > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint - annoying a-repeat
you can play with the meter number as yo can see in this example (sorry it is pmx): (if you dont want to see the meterchanges m8806 ---> m8800) = 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 0 4 20 0 t ./ e8 e e e e e e e / m8806 e8 e e e e e e e / m16/16/0/0 e8 e e e e e e e / === Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx: rest shifted vertically from the default and fermata
This gives (at my place) an error. You can see it if you remove the first line. (in this example, removing the 'of' in the first line helps also) 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 0 4 20 0 t ./ e44r r+0 of e2r // f44f rb of f2fi / e4r rb of e2r // f4f r+0 f2fi / Andre (being in my opinion long away from the list, this means that pmx is very stable) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4
m4400 Andre - Original Message - From: "Stefan Svensson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4 > On Thu, 16 May 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: > > > I am not sure if i understand it all, but your lines could be made by this > > code: > > > m4434 > > How can I avoid the meter to be printed? I want to do a "silent" meter > change. > > Stefan > > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - trying to understand
How should i code this, for the midi to play the two 'c' as 1 note (see original without Ap, a correct but not so beautiful example )? = 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 b ./ w60m I Ap e84 stl Ct e4 st zc+ / === Thanks Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -
> the token st denotes a tie which is meant for tying equally pitched > notes as opposite to slurs which is meant for some kind of phrasing. > Apparently the postscript slur/ties implents the distinction between > slurs and ties much stricter than the original musixtex slurs/ties. Thus > if you replace the st tokens with s you get a slur running from notehead > to notehead while st gives you an arc starting from the first notehead > and ending at the following notehead at the height where it was started. I agree, by recompiling older music i see i was using the st on a wrong way. > I don't understand *why* you want to raise the ending of the hairpins by > 15 - but that is what you actually get when you ask for it. If you remove The 'Ap', then the hairpin is horizontal. I suppose i was to lazy by only raise the second D< ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -
Here i have a music line that behave on an other way with postscript slurs. Which way is the right one? (remove Ap to see the difference) - Is the hairpin slope a new feature? - the tie has an offset 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 b ./ w60m Ap c84 st D< g4- st D<+15 / == Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser
Thank you for helping. Once i had a working versions of this fonts. I do not think it is necessary to send a musixTeX source. I have the error with a programm with 2 notes and a slur. So i think i installed something wrong. I redownloaded the most recent links from Don's email. I checked again (all the fonts and the files, this is what i did): Searching the c:\ drive for: 'music11.pfb' results in directories: C:\PSFONTS C:\localtexmf\fonts\type1\musixtex both with date 4/08/2001. Al the other fonts are copied in those directories. I copied the linux fonts over the windows fonts (the linux dates are more recent), but the result remains the same (=wrong) I had to copy the musixps fonts to C:\PSFONTS for gsview to work (did it before and now again) Searching the c:\ drive for: 'musix.map' results in directories: C:\texmf\dvips\config -> 3kB, 4/08/2001 C:\texmf\dvipdfm\config -> 2kB, 4/08/2001 --> The pdf musix.map is the smallest. Searching the c:\ drive for: 'config.ps' results in directories: C:\texmf\dvips\config -> date: 28/05/2002 Searching the c:\ drive for: 'config.pdf' results in directories: C:\texmf\dvips\config -> date: 28/05/2002 --> both have the line 'p+ musix.map' --> tried also with this line before any other .map line --> i removed all the musixtex ps fonts from config.map C:\texmf\dvipdfm\config\config has the line 'f musix.map' i have put 'psslurs.pro' in 'C:\texmf\dvips\config' scanned drive c:\ for 'musixps.tex' : c:\musixtex\slur-ps\musixps.tex this is a place (and the only place where musixtex can find it) i refreshed the Miktex database plenty o times. The error still remains the same. What can i do more (beside giving it up)? Thanks in advance Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser
Propably i misinstalled the psslur system, i cannot get them right. I tested this code and the result in postscript (25k) is on http://users.pandora.be/avr/ My question is: am i the only one with this result and in that case what i have done wrong? Andre 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 t ./ Ap \\input musixps\ c15 s g c- s e e e / = ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX.
Perhaps musixtex redefines the line lenght? I tried accollades: {\input musixtex ... \endextract % terminate excerpt }% The output is in that case very normal Andre - Original Message - From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TeX-Music" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX. > Can anyone see why the extract is screwing up the page layout (width, font, > and indentation)? If I comment it out, the page is centered differently > (properly) and the width is constant like it should be. > > === > \hsize6.5in > \vsize9in > \font\twelverom=cmr12 > \twelverom > Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla > blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. > % > % Extract copied from musixdoc > {\input musixtex > \parindent10mm > \instrumentnumber{1} % a single instrument > \setname1{Piano} % whose name is Piano > \setstaffs1{2} % with two staffs > \generalmeter{\meterfrac44}% 4/4 meter chosen > \startextract % starting real score > \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en > \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\ql l\sk\ql n\en > \bar > \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{dgf}|\qlp i\en > \notes\tbu0\qb0g|\ibbl1j3\qb1j\tbl1\qb1k\en > \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en > \endextract % terminate excerpt > }% > Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla > blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. > \bye > === > > --Don Simons > > ___ > TeX-music mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4
sorry, i forgot the trio macros 1 1 3 4 3 4 0 1 1 2 20 0 t ./ % gd25x4 e c bf / fd2x4D gf f / efd2x8Dn4 cD afD df c / L2 m4434 \\\def\txt{\eightit 4}\ \downtrio c3{-3}\ g4++ e c bf / \uptrio p20\ f2 d4f f / \downtrio K40\ e4f c af d8f c / --- Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX crash on xtuplets beginning with a rest
I tested it with pmx 355 en 357a, i see nothing wrong (Windowsxp) Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4
I am not sure if i understand it all, but your lines could be made by this code: --- 1 1 3 4 3 4 0 1 1 2 20 0 t ./ % gd25x4 e c bf / fd2x4D gf f / efd2x8Dn4 cD afD df c / L2 m4434 g4++ e c bf / f2 d4f f / e4f c af d8f c / -- Andre > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] 2 beams that crosses staffs - pmx - a problem
Thanks to the kindness of Don, here i am again The example looks long but it is not, it repeats 3 times the code. In this example the first line has music on 4 staffs, the next line on two staffs. The code for the 1st line and de 2nd is the same, only the primo and de secondo are apartin the 2nd line. There one can see what i meant. On the 4 staffs the numbering of the beams goes wrong, the result can be seen in the output. Is there a way around it, without editing the TeX source? Or am i doing stupid things? Andre - % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 4-2 2 244 0 6 0 2 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 2 20 .09 Secondo Primo bttt ./ %1 d23 a rbp // rb2 r8 [ e83 a ]j rb8 b2- f / d84 a f+ d rb4 rb8 [ju c ] f8 b- d b r-8 a c a // d44 s+4 f a g s+3 f4 s d s f s e s / rb2 c25r | rbp // rb8 rb rb [jl d85 ] [+4 c ]j rb rb rb | d4l su fl s a2- / [-9 d86 c d ]j rb rb [ju a e f ] | r d+ c b c f- a b / %2 g2 d4 d+ // r8 d+ g d rb2 / Cb rb2 d8 f- a f // d4l s bl s d s a s / rbp // b4 s g s a s f s / g8 f e g f e d c / % L2 %1 d23 a rbp // rb2 r8 [ e83 a ]j rb8 b2- f / Ct d84 a f+ d rb4 rb8 [ju c ] f8 b- d b r-8 a c a // d44 s+4 f a g s+3 f4 s d s f s e s / rp rp / rp rp / %2 g2 d4 d+ // r8 d+ g d rb2 / Cb rb2 d8 f- a f // d4l s bl s d s a s / rp / rp / %1 rp rp / rp rp / rb2 c25r | rbp // rb8 rb rb [jl d85 ] [+4 c ]j rb rb rb | d4l su fl s a2- / [-9 d86 c d ]j rb rb [ju a e f ] | r d+ c b c f- a b / %22 rp / rp / rbp // b4 s g s a s f s / g8 f e g f e d c / % ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] a4 paper
\def\pagforaiv{\special{papersize=210mm,297mm}%only for pdf (default is letter) \hoffset=-12.4mm\hsize=210mm\advance\hsize-23mm% \voffset=-15.4mm\vsize=297mm\advance\vsize-20mm\advance\vsize-12pt}% \pageforaiv - I do something like that. If you use acrobat for printing, then the \special solves everything (overwrites the acrobat reader install for letter format). (Acrobat reader adapt the the layout for the page format, even without formatting for A4) If you want other margins, adapt the offsets Andre > ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Program error, tied notes, send source to Dr. Don
I am sorry, to bargain the list again with this This (see subject) is what i got on mesure 4, but i am afraid i am doing something wrong In the test programm, when removing the midi line 'It120iororor', then there is no error. - --- \input musixtex --- % % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 3-2 1 2 6 8 6 8 0 -2 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 1 20 .04 Ped. Man. bbt ./ It120iororor rp g42,g g,g / g23d st zb s1t zd s2t | g2d- st zb s1t zd s2t / rp rp / %7 d4,d+ c,c | b,a g8 f e / e43d zg zb fd s2t zd | f s2t ,d gd // rb4d a43d s1t | ad s1t bd / e4d dd | d stu ,c zd st s1t dd s1t // g44,g f,f | d,f gd / -- Thanks beforehand for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Chord Grace notes
Is there a better way to implement chord Grace notes? This is the best i can: - 2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2 1 1 20 .03 bt ./ w150 c43 b+ zes esi zb / Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 // Gxse4s g24dn / --- Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MS-DOS woes
This are my settings (i think the same for 2000 and XP) set PATH=c:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx;%path% is replaced by: in 2000, control panel -> system -> advanced -> environment. : MUSc:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx Path%MUS%;c:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WIND. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - the wonderful D option
This are a few thing i use, propably there are better ways, but this use the pmx commands (i think). Don had asked for suggestions, here they are: - it would be nice if the D could be flipped above the staffs, something as at the trios - i do not know how to globally change the fonts on text in the D command, ie for making fingerprints. Perhaps things as D1, D45 (D starting with a figure) without the "" and in a footnotesize (as Df is in ppff font). > * Printing revisions, copyright information, dates, etc at the bottom or >top of each page. this can be done in a footnote, see the many examples on the icking site > > * Using more than one line for titles (Tt, Tc). an other option beside \\ is using > > * Globally redefine PMX fonts (i use \smalltype in Tc). i do not know how to do this, but i prefer a font ie in a command the can be adapted > > * Positioning segno and coda symbols (i use \loffset and \roffset). I us the pmx D, ie 'D"\segno"+15-10' see example > > * Positioning text like "Solo ad lib" and "D. C. al Coda" (i use >\loffset, \roffset and \zchar). > D again (Don has created here a small command with big power). If the text is to long use a text command (see example) > * Using note symbols (segno, coda, quarter note) in dacapo and metronome >directions. D command see metron in example 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 0 4 20 0.08 t ./ Tt t h t \\def\Title{\vbox{\hbox{one}\hbox{Alto}\hbox{Two}\hbox{\bf Three}}}\ \\centerline{\Title}\ \\def\longtext{this is a long texttexttexttext}\ c44 D"\metron{\hu}{60}"+18 c44 D"\bf\longtext"+17+2 g44 g44 / a44 a44 g24 D"\Segno"+15-10 / -- Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - upbeat
Thank you very much Don, yes it solve my problem the last but 1 line is IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 (I forgot to move the m3400 at the split and got the error) . > -- > 11 1 8 3 4 0 -4 > 1 1 16 .07 > > t > ./ > I > % 0 and 1 > e84 Rl / > \\\advance\barno-1\ > IMR1 > m3400 c45d e8 b c / > IM IMR2 > % 2 > V1.2.~and~3 r4 r r8 e Rr / > % 3 and 4 only accompaniment > IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 IMP2 > Vb V~Fine dd24 ed / > --- > > I'll look into this, but please don't hold your breath. Thanks i feel better now Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music