[TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment
This is perhaps not worth to mention it, but is it possible to have a default minimum length of the 1st segment of a broken postscript slur (as it is at the start of the second segment)? (i can work around this problem by changing all the first of two 'st' by 'sts+0+1') This is an example (see last tie): = 1 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 1 420 .0 t ./ Apl w25m f85 f f f s f s f f f sts+0+1 f st f f f st f st f f f / = Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
RE: [TeX-music] dviconcat
In the canons, I used it as follow (you must have only 2 command lines here) For the easiest way I copied dviconcat.exe between the .DVI files (perhaps you can adapt the PATH in Dos also) and also the .bat file that has the commands. The full bat file is at the Icking site dviconca -o temp.dvi canonsfp.dvi canon1.dvi canon2.dvi canon3.dvi canon4.dvi canon5.dvi dviconca -o canons.dvi temp.dvi canon6.dvi canon7.dvi canon8.dvi canonick.dvi canonicl.dvi canonjl.dvi canontoc.dvi Andre -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 21 oktober 2003 17:16 Aan: TeX-Music Onderwerp: [TeX-music] dviconcat Dear friends, some time ago, someone on this list sent me the DOS binary of dviconca.exe along with instructions for use to the following effect: dviconca -o outputfile infile1 infile2 infile3 I've been trying this without useful results; all I get is DVI files of size 0 bytes, or an output file containing nothing but infile1, or ten-megabyte monstrosities (from two 20k input files) which YAP refuses to open. Can anyone tell me what's going wrong here? TIA Eva ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt
Dear all, When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola) collide with text above the staff. By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola' depends on the number of staffs. Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without editing the output of scor2prt? I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file: == --- \input musixtex --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 1 1 2 4 4 8 0.00 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 15 20 0.00 3 ./ Ti Viola Arbd Ae Apl AT % 1 \zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\ b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D-1 | f4n s fs s D-1 | f2n | f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D+1 D+1+5 / % 7 rp | r8 f- Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / rp | r8 f+ Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / % 10 L2 g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D | d8si D D st e d4s st D D | d8si D st e d4s st D | d8si D st e d4s st D | dsi st g ob D g o .gf Df st / g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D | d8si D D st e d4s st D D | / === Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt
Thanks to Cornelius C. Noack i could get this method to change the hight of the instrument names: % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 3 3 2 4 4 80 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 17 68 20 % no indent in the parts %% .07 %!0 %% Cello %1\raise+3ex \hbox{Cello} %% Viola %2\raise+3ex \hbox{Viola} Violino b3t Thank you very much Andre - Original Message - From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt Dear all, When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola) collide with text above the staff. By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola' depends on the number of staffs. Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without editing the output of scor2prt? I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file: == --- \input musixtex --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 1 1 2 4 4 8 0.00 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 15 20 0.00 3 ./ Ti Viola Arbd Ae Apl AT % 1 \zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\ b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D-1 | f4n s fs s D-1 | f2n | f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D+1 D+1+5 / % 7 rp | r8 f- Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / rp | r8 f+ Dp-0-1 s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 / % 10 L2 g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D | d8si D D st e d4s st D D | d8si D st e d4s st D | d8si D st e d4s st D | dsi st g ob D g o .gf Df st / g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st | fsi st .ds st D | d8si D D st e d4s st D D | / === Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX
The \def\text{... is between the --- in pmx to be removed in musixtex, and \\ to replace by \ adapt the lenghts (17 cm and 8 cm 17/2 ) --- \def\text{% \hbox to 17cm {\hsize=8cm\parindent=0em \vtop{% Since Coulonnus was an expert in ancient music he would have played \par bars 120 and ff like this and blablabla:} %\hfil \vtop{% Comme Coulonnus \'etait un expert en musique ancienne il aurait jou\'e les mesures 120 et suivantes comme ceci et blablabla et en Francais le texte est plus long et blablabla:}}}% --- somewhere on the page: \\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ Andre - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX I wish to append some comments in two languages, two columns, at the end of a MusiXTeX document. I know how to do this in LaTeX (see the attached example), but AFAIK, you have to speak TeX instead of LaTeX to add significant text to a MusiXTeX file. Does anybody know how to translate the attached LaTeX file into TeX ? Regards, Jean-Pierre Coulon E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur Département FRESNEL, groupe ILGA BP 4229 06304 NICE Cedex 4 Tel (33) {0}4 92 00 31 58 Fax (33) {0}4 92 00 31 38 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX
sorry i forgot this definition: \\let\endpiecesav\endpiece\ \\\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ if not on the last page use eject in stead of endpiece if musixtex: \let\endpiecesav\endpiece\ \def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\ Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Daniel Taupin
I want to participate in the grief in the passing away of Daniël Taupin. I almost met Daniël at the TUG days in Holland, a few years ago. At last moment i was prevented, but a colleague has met him there and reported me all details. My first mail to Daniël was propably 10 years ago. I tought i found an error in musixtex.tex. I was afraid to mentioned it and asked him how to solve a problem i had. I am sure everyone knows his answer: read the manual, what i did and it was all there. Anyway it helped me to understand musixtex. It happens i posed a problem and a few hours later i saw appear a new version of musixtex with the adaptions. It was so fast, i doubted if it was a reaction on may mail or if it was a coincidence he just did an update. Daniël Taupin is one of the unbelievable smart minds in making a music typing programm dat handles all exceptions. Even Donald E. Knuth honored him with a link to musixtex. Andre Van Ryckeghem ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX
It is very easy to work with it because of the tweak possibilities. I tried a sharp on the upper note of the last chord, with stem down. It collapsed a little bit with the b. then i tweaked 3 accidentals. This is the way it should go? Andre 1 1 3 4 3 4 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ Abr K-4+0 w3i b43 zdf ze zgf zaf zb zdf df zef zgf zaf zbf zdf d-lfA1 zef zgf zaf zbfA.7 zdsA.7 / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX beta 2.412; PMX 2.411 for OSX; M-Tx beta 0.54c; Other changes
I redid Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen (Heinrich van Herzogenberg) with the new Apl option. It is amazing how easy it is to make the broken slurs with the right shape. For most of the flatten slurs it is simpy sf...sf and if they collaps, using something as suf+7s+3s+2...s+7. If i understand well the vertical offsets of the broken slurs are relative to the start of the slur (suf+7s+3s+2 and not suf+7s+10s+9). Thank you very much Don for this amazing feature that fasten up a lot the typing of music. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname
replace '*' by '$\sharp$' Andre - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname Dear friends, How can I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the * in the following extract? \input musixtex \parindent 1.5 cm \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}% \startmuflex\startpiece \NOTes\wh p\en \endpiece\endmuflex \bye (The project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires that the third string be tuned to G#.) Regards Eva ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname
If you like other fonts, here is an example( [ = flat, ] = sharp): \font\accid = cmmib10 scaled 1400 \input musixtex \parindent 1.5 cm \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G\accid]}% \startmuflex\startpiece \NOTes\wh p\en \endpiece\endmuflex \bye - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname Dear friends, How can I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the * in the following extract? \input musixtex \parindent 1.5 cm \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}% \startmuflex\startpiece \NOTes\wh p\en \endpiece\endmuflex \bye (The project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires that the third string be tuned to G#.) Regards Eva ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip
title: Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen music: Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900) Claude de Sermisy 1529 text: geistlich Antwerpen 1540 I hope there are few errors. Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the hairpins were no more broken. Andre (I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Re: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip
Sorry, i was absent, i wanted to reach christian Mondrup Andre - Original Message - From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip title: Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen music: Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900) Claude de Sermisy 1529 text: geistlich Antwerpen 1540 I hope there are few errors. Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the hairpins were no more broken. Andre (I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur (again)
Hello, When using lyrics and 'sf', and placing many systems on 1 page it would be nice to flatten the 1st part of a broken slur. I searched pmx.tex, musixps.tex and musixtex.tex for a parameter that does the job, but i did not found how the end point of the first slur is defined. This example is better than my previous one, because here i have to find only the last bar on the first line of the broken slur. This is not hard if the layout of the piece is made already. But still it is a clumsy one, it would be so nice if it could happen automatically (magically). --- %first part flattend breakslur - %must be in the last bar of the line% % \def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\gdef\atnextbar{% \znotes\loff{\psforts1\tslur#1{#2}}\en}\bsk% \gdef\atnextline{\znotes\ifnum#23% slur up \isu#1{#2}{4}\else\isd#1{#2}{4}\fi\en}}% --- 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 10 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w50m h200m % pmx break: 1st part to high if using lyrics in staff above a44 suf+5 b d c f g f g sf / % musixtex break: better but not sufficient a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{9}\ c f g f g sf / % using \psforts1 in first part also a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c f g f g sf / % defining the break end by \atnextbar a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c8 c f4 g f g sf / % slur down a44 s-2 b d c8 \mybreakslur0{-1}\ c f4 g f g sf-6 / = Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur
Thanks for your reaction. If you think about it a bit, there is no way for the line breaking algorithm to know which shape should be used for the first part of the slur. The shape is defined when closing the slur. Therefore, the only (a bit dirty) solution is to break the slur manually - close it just before the fixed line break and open another one at the beginning of the next line. I guess \breakslur creates an endslur, so this one could be flattend? I tried in line TeX, i found that the pmx-slur is highest, the in line breakslur a little lower and the breakslur with the 'sf' feature is the lowest (in the 3th case the slur must be restarted): --- \def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\loff{\psforts1\tslur0g}\bsk}% --- 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 6 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w150 a44 suf+5 b d c f g f g sf / a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{10}\ c f g f g sf / a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{10}\ c \isu0{9}{-2}\ f g f g sf / Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur
When making slurs on linebreaks (system breaks?) with ssf, then only the second part (on the next line is flattened. What could i do to flatten also the first part. This is an example to show it: = 11 4 4 0 6 0 2 1 2 16 0 t ./ Ap %\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ w150 a44 su+5 b d c f g f g sf / = The result is on: http://users.pandora.be/avr/contslur.pdf I made also an example with musixpss (The 'sf' is replaced here by 's'): http://users.pandora.be/avr/contpssslur.pdf Thanks in advance for helping me Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] musixlyr and lyrstrutbox
The min distance can be calculated by \vphantom{!y}, filled with the highest en the lowest chars. Below that, the lines will zigzag. Andre --- \input musixtex \input musixlyr \setlyrics{v1}{% Ho-ly God,_ we praise_ thy name!} \setlyrics{v2}{% Hark! the loud_ ce-les_-tial hymn} \setlyrics{v3}{% Ho-ly Fa_-ther, Ho_-ly Son,} --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig, 11 3 4 3 4 0 -1 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 1 16 0 t ./ w5i \\staffbotmarg=53pt\ \\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vrule height 8pt width 0pt}\ \\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vphantom{yM!}}\ \\\atnextbar{\lyrraise{1}{b27pt}}\ \\\assignlyrics{1}{v1,v2,v3}\ f2 f4 / ( f4 e ) f / ( g4 a ) g / f2d / ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - rising duo's
Is it possible with a rising duo to have the bracket and the number closer by each other? === 1 1 6 8 6 80 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ w260 g45dx2 a dd / g4-dx2n-1 af dd / g4-dx2n-1 ff dd / == Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] How to setup the with of only one line?
I don't know if this works all the time but this one may help: (attention the lines may be broken by the email) -- 1 1 5 4 0 0 0 0 1 320 .0 t ./ w100m g44 .a [ g8 f ] [ e d ] e4 / b4+ [ b8 g ] [ a a ] [ g a ] b4 / \\let\myalaligne\alaligne\ \\\def\alaligne{\let\alaligne\myalaligne\Stoppiece \advance\hsize-20mm\relax\contpiece}\ L3M b4 [ a8 s b s ] [ g f ] [ e d ] e4 / -- Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b
I have a problem with the new version: the melismas don't take account of the left margin as you can see in this example: http://users.pandora.be/avr/testmelisma.ps I tried this example with a previous version without problems Andre A heavy user of this wonderful addition of musixtex - Original Message - From: Rainer Dunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b Hello all, the new version 2.1b of musixlyr is now available from the Icking Archive software page, http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html. The one-and-only new feature is the correction of a bug recently reported by Simon Dreher: At line beginnings, lyrics have been horizontally misaligned sometimes; they've appeared a bit right-shifted out of their default position, centered around the notehead. Now they are centered, no matter how far they extend into the leftward header space of the staff. Those of you who have never suffered from this problem don't need to use this version. Best regards, Rainer ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx
Thank you very much for helping. But in my example, with \\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\ or \\\setclefsymbol2\treblelowoct\ the tenor clef is nice at the beginning of a system, but not in the middle of it (by using Ct in pmx) I tried musixtex (\setclef2\treble), but then the the notes are 2 octaves higher than in pmx Of course, i can put an '8' everywhere with a D8 command, but i like to know if the clefsymbol can be redefined for 'Ct' Thanks again Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx
Again, i am astonished how fast and efficient this problem is solved by Don. I used it in an SATB (with Solo's) piece of 250 bars. I had no trouble to switch back the clef, probably because i use a lot of \\\resetclefsymbols\ and \\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\ commands by changing the number of staffs. Thanks again Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - midi, repeats and sharps
In this example, in the last line of code the e sounds as an e sharp (mesure 3 and 5) when i replace the lines e4 r r / by e4ni r r / then the midi sound as it should Even on the repeat, when the midi jumps from m. 1 to 3 it sounds as e-sharp. Of course it is easy to correct, but perhaps it is related with the slur-and-midi problem. Thanks for looking at it Andre === 2 13 4 3 4 0 4 1 1 20 .05 bt ./ It126i1:1 %1 IMR2 b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f / Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes d8 zf r1+2 en zg d4 zf / IM %2 V1 e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl / e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es ] / % IMP2 %3 Vb2 Rr e4+ zg e8- r r4 / %this e4 sounds as an e-sharp: e4 r r / %4 e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl / e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es ] / %5 e4+ zg e8- r r4 / %this e4 also sounds as an e-sharp: e4 r r / == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - midi repeat and slur
This is an extract from a sheet to demonstrate a strange (psychotic?) behaviour of the midi output. If removing the last slur, then all goes well. I do not know how to get this right Andre === 2 13 4 3 4 0 4 1 1 20 .05 bt ./ It126i1:1 IMR2 b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f / Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes d8 zf s r1+2 en zg s d4 zf / IM % e44 zg e8- r r4 Rr / e4dd d1 e8 r1+4 es s / IMP2 % e4+ zg e8- r r r / e4 s r r / % ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces
I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i believe it is possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two upper voices are shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin). When changing from 2 to 4 instruments, if i do in pmx a \\\spread{-30}\ on the last system with 2 instruments, then the spacing is nice and equal over all systems. The larger the number (i toke 30) the better. It is not necessary to edit the TeX source. I do not know why this happens Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Reducing number of instruments within a movement
However, musixlyr wants to attach the second system's words to the lower voice of the Soprano staff, which is all blank whole-measure rests. I can switch the notes of the Soprano's top voice with the rests of its lower voice, but I am wondering if there is another way to communicate to musixlyr that it should use the top voice of the Soprano staff to attach lyrics. file3.pmx contains all these changes. I have tried cancelling the lyric with \\\assignlyrics{3}{}\ before assigning it again with \\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\ but this has not worked. \\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\lyrmodealter2\ should do it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces
I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i believe it is possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two upper voices are shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin). Is it possible to fix that? Thanks Andre This is the proposed solution in the by pmx produced tex file (the changed lines are marked with --): % Bar count 5 \alaligne \pnotes{2.83}\ql{''C}\ql D\ql E\ql F\qu c\qu d\qu e\qu f\en% \newmovement00% - \stoppiece%-- \instrumentnumber4%- %\newnoi{4}%--- \setstaffs11% \setclef16% \setstaffs21% \setclef20% \setstaffs31% \setclef30% \setstaffs41% \setclef40% \setname1{Continuo}% \setname2{Sporano}% \setname3{Violino 2}% \setname4{Violino 1}% \akkoladen{{1}{1}{3}{4}}% % Bar 1-2 % Bar count 6 %\newmovement00%--- %\stoppiece% ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx
I am trying to change the clefs in a staff with two voices. The best i can do is the following example. I want to use \setclefs from Musixtex, but propably it is redefined in pmx. the result is: overfull boxes and a to high sharp clef Thanks for your help Andre === 21 4 4 0 6 0 -3 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za // f0- / a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc / % Cb c2-- zc- rb // rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze / e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc / === ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx
Thank you very much Don, You made it clear and very simple, It is perfect for my needs Andre - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx Is this what you want? 21 4 4 0 6 0 -3 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za // f0- / a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc / % %Cb c2-- zc- rb // %rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze / Cb rb4 Ct c44u ze eu za eu za // c23l zc- rb2 / e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc / = ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] centered quarter rest
After using m/1/4/0/0 a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is centered in stead of. Is this a feature or an error? Thanks for helping Andre == 21 4 4 0 6 1 -2 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % rp / rp / m1/4/0/0 r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % m4400 rp | r2 r4 g // e4 c g af | af g b b / r4-8 e e.e | d e d es // g4.af b c | c.b f g / === ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest
Thanks and sorry, i was to fast to ask, i have seen it now in the reference card.I was misleaded by the difference in the 1st and 3th bar Andre - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:38 AM Subject: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest Neither. RTFM! ro suppresses centering a full-bar rest. By the way, the PMX manual and reference card in PDF format are searchable. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:04 PM To: Don Simons; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: centered quarter rest After using m/1/4/0/0 a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is centered in stead of. Is this a feature or an error? Thanks for helping Andre == 21 4 4 0 6 1 -2 1 1 16 .09 Keyboard bt ./ r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % rp / rp / m1/4/0/0 r4 // e43 / r4-8 // g44 / % m4400 rp | r2 r4 g // e4 c g af | af g b b / r4-8 e e.e | d e d es // g4.af b c | c.b f g / === ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas
i tried this, it seems all to be normal 1 13 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 20 .04 t ./ a44 c e s s1 | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s1 b c Rl | Vx a b c / a44 c e s | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s+0-6 s b c Rl | Vx a b c / = Andre - Original Message - From: Michael Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas Hi, I tried to typeset a score with PMX, which has a slur beginning before two voltas and ending in _both_ of them, but I had no success. The second closing of the slur opens up a new one instead. The PMX-code looks like this: a c (1 e | V1 a )1 b c Rr | Vb2 a )1 b c Rl | Vx a b c / I tried the 's'-symbol for slurs, too (same effect) This feature seems not to be implemented yet, am I right? Is there any chance for me to get the desired behaviour? kind regards Michael PS: the MIDI-file generation algo doesn't cope with the voltas, too (IMO) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement
In this example, i think you must choose a white space and let Ae spread the system on the rest of the page ( i toke 40\Interligne) \\let\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\ \\def\Endpiece{\let\Endpiece\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\vskip40\Interligne}\ Andre - Original Message - From: Hermann Hinsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement Hello, I want to fill the space on a page below the systems of the last movement within a score with blank space. I use Ae for the whole score. Any Solution for this? -- Hermann ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx
I was curious how pmx could help, even for raw musixtex code. So i compared the pmx code with the others. I made a pmx file and used the intermediaire tex-code. This is the result with, if i am right, the right spacing: pmx: == 1 13 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 .04 t ./ [u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] | [u-16+5 b ds--- s e s ][ b+ d g ] / === and the (working) musixtex file with the original problem, the file of Jean-Pierre Coulon en the tex code produced by pmx(perhaps the lines could be broken because of the mail format): === \input musixtex \instrumentnumber1 \bigaccid\startmuflex\startpiece\systemnumbers% % % Evita's problem % \notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0% \qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en% \notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en\bar% % % solution by pmx % \notes\ibbu1{'a}1\bigna b\qb1b\bigsh{`f}\qb1f\tbbu1\qb1g% \nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1e\tbu1\qb1g\en% % \notes\loff{\ibbu1{`e}5}\qb1{'''b}\islurd0{```d}\bigsh d\qb1d% \tslur0e\tbbu1\qb1e\nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1d\tbu1\qb1g\en% % % solution by Jean-Pierre Coulon % \notes\ibbu0L6\roff{\qb0p}% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en % \Stoppiece\eject\bye == ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx
This is how i do it in pmx = 1 13 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 .04 t ./ [u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] | [u-10h b ds-- e ][ b d g ] / === Andre - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam Dear friends, I'm trying to typeset a semiquaver sextuplet figure in two groups of three notes, with the lower of the two beams interrupted between note stems three and four. This is no problem in the case of a straightforward upper or lower beam, as in the following: \startextract \notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0% \qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en \endextract However, when the beam starts out as a lower beam and terminates as an upper beam, the results are unfortunate: \startextract \notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p% \hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0% \qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en \endextract Can anyone suggest a workaround that forces the *lower* of the two beams to be interrupted in this example? Thanks in advance Eva Downloadable guitar edition of J.S. Bach, Lute Suite BWV 995: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/bach/bwv995/bwv995cg.pdf -- People think that I can teach them style. What stuff it all is! Have something to say, and say it as clearly as you can. That is the only secret of style. --- Matthew Arnold (1898), quoted in David and Hilary Crystal's Words on Words (2000) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] dotted barline
Christian Mondrup told me to use pstricks for special lines (if using postscript): \input pstricks \def\PSL#1#2#3{\pslinewidth.3pt\psset{xunit=1\noteskip,yunit=1\Interligne}%\ \zchar{#3}{~~~\psline[linestyle=dashed](#1,#2)}}\ and then at a staff: \PSL{0}{4}{0} % horizontal distance, vertical distance, higth on the staff (or \PSL040) Of course one has yo play a litlle wth ie the tildes ~~~ and so on there is an example of such lines (pmx) in kinderstucke 1 (Mendelsohn) at the Icking site Andre - Original Message - From: Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: [TeX-music] dotted barline Hello all, This is a relay of a question from a MusiXTeX user in Japan. I want to write dotted barline for supplementary sectioning in the bar. Is such command implemented in MusiXTeX? Does anyone know? Certainly I had seen dotted barline in a score too; But I can't remember what was it. Best regards, Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] did not know Finale was for free
I bought it because it could make notes from midi (it did so, but i could do nothing with the midi but listening to it). I could not manage to have a page layout, it went all on 1 line. I could not make an upbeat on the 1st mesure. It was tedious to place text on the notes. The only thing i could do was running the examples (in Musixtex, if i can run the examples, i know enough to start edit the music). I got help by a friend, but he found a nice pagelayout not important and so on. I did not much effort to learn it, because the output is inferior to Musixtex. I see music sheets made by Finale with only 1 musicline on the last page, with no slurs on the notes and so on and if there are errors on it (this one is no exclusivity for Finale users) they usually are corrected with a pencil. Andre But i realise there are mouse minded (and younger?) people who prefer wisywig editors. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:03:27 +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre (who did not know Finale was for free. I believe there is a scaled-down variant (with seriously limited functionality) that one can download for nothing. The full version still costs a mint, though. I bought it once and could not work with it) I'm with you, Andre. I tried Finale once and hated it. Half of the gradient of the learning curve involved in mastering it seemed to result from the programmers' insistence on flouting every single Windows convention they could find (like which functions to put in which menu, like allowing one to delete things by selecting with the mouse and hitting the Delete key) and on burying basic, frequently needed functions five levels deep in the menu hierarchy and making the user wade through reams of PDF documentation to find out where exactly they'd put them. I took one look and decided that if I was going to be facing a steep learning curve anyway, I'd just as soon have a learning curve that wasn't 50% due to poor design, and I'd just as soon not pay for the privilege! The rest, more or less, is history... Eva Downloadable guitar edition of J.S. Bach, Lute Suite BWV 995: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/bach/bwv995/bwv995cg.pdf -- People think that I can teach them style. What stuff it all is! Have something to say, and say it as clearly as you can. That is the only secret of style. --- Matthew Arnold (1898), quoted in David and Hilary Crystal's Words on Words (2000) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests
I compiled a number of large (pmx)files. I saw nothing wrong This is my system: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (MiKTeX 2.1) (preloaded format=plain 2002.12.28) 5 JAN 2003 07:52 MusiXTeX(c) T.111 3 Jan. 2003 on WindowsXP and Winedt And thanks for the beautiful program Andre (who did not know Finale was for free. I bought it once and could not work with it) - Original Message - From: Daniel Taupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mutex list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: [TeX-music] I want your tests Hello: Appended if my proposal for a further version of musixtex.tex. Before posting it officially, I would like to as to all of you to test it, in place of the T109 ot T110 versions you may have. Some command structures have been changes and it does not fail in some of my examples, but other tests would be welcome. Note that this includes musixbm features, so that inclusion of musixbm of NOT useful, and even not recommended. It should be especially tested with HUGE tests, in order to check that it does not cause errors du to number of registers exhausted. But also with weird musics, under LaTeX. --- Hope to get positive or failing answers. Thanks. -- Daniel Taupin, 91400 ORSAY - France E-mail= mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home/fax: (33)1.60.10.26.44. Rep.: (33)1.60.10.04.13, fax (work) (33)1.69.15.60.86 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem
For some obscure reason, i was using one old version of musixlyr (MusiXLYRics 2.0a September 04, 2001). I loaded the latest from the icking site and now everything is ok. Sorry for the trouble i caused. and thanks for helping me Andre - Original Message - From: Rainer Dunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem Hello Andre, hmm - I can't reproduce your problem. The only difference between with and without \lyrmodealter is that the lyrics are synchronized either with the soprano or with the alto voice. I'll attach here my DVI output and the .tex and .log files so that you can compare software versions and possible other differences, in order to analyze what goes wrong. Best regards, Rainer On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:58:00AM +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the line (by removing '\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal). Am i doing something wrong? == --- \input musixtex \input pmx \input musixlyr \input musixcho % \setlyrics{refrein}% {Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed 't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed. } \lyrmodealter2 \assignlyrics2{refrein} --- 2 2 4 4 0 6 1 0 1 2 20 .0 bt ./ w100m e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r // e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r / e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 // e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c / Thanks fot helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem
In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the line (by removing '\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal). Am i doing something wrong? == --- \input musixtex \input pmx \input musixlyr \input musixcho % \setlyrics{refrein}% {Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed 't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed. } \lyrmodealter2 \assignlyrics2{refrein} --- 2 2 4 4 0 6 1 0 1 2 20 .0 bt ./ w100m e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r // e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r / e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 // e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c / Thanks fot helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap - more questions
http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/ Thanks for the information, i should have found this myself. As for the slur problem So I guess I really ought to deal with this. 1. On the first part of the breaking if the slur is in the lower part of the staff he (she?) goes down a little bit. On the upper part he goes up. Has this a reason? 2. I experimented with s...s slurs (not st..st). In my example, setting the width to w23m, i noticed that the shortest (ful) slur is one notehead long. Is it possible to redifine a short continuation slur to such one (a full slur at the start of a line)? But it seems they cannot be lowerd, see adapted example (s1l(ow) and s1-3 does not work). I ran it as is, and also edited with s1l or s1-3 . 3. In older pieces i used a lot of tt...tt ties . Now the tt's are no more possible, is this wanted? 4. I tried also \\input musixpss.tex\ there the continuation slurs are normal slurs with thin ends on both sides and a bold middle. == 4 44 4 6 0 0 2 1 2 20 .04 bttt ./ Apl %\\input musixpss.tex\ w23m %135 g43 s g s g a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / % L2 f4 s r2d / c4 s1-0-1 s1 s r2d / a4s s r2d / f4+ s1-3-1 s1-3 s-3 r2d / and thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap
Thank you very much for helping, Olivier and Christian, but I downloaded Don's pmx2407.zip. In the pmxbeta.html it is mentioned that a new pmx.tex is needed in pmx2406, i did not found that one. I tried pmx240.tex (with pmx2407.exe) but i see no improvement in using Apl. Yes, adding a space helps, but the drawback here is, when the code is changed elsewhere (and the new line is taken on an other place) the X1.5 is no more needed (and will propably not be removed). thanks again Andre (who in the future will download the new version more often for not missing the new parts) - Original Message - From: Christian Mondrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap Olivier Vogel wrote: Don Simons has solved this problem since the version 2.401 of PMX. Active the postscript slurs with the option Apl instead of Ap. For more information, look at http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/pmxbeta.html and then if you think the continuation slur is still too narrow - which I do - you may improve by simply right offsetting the first note of the next staff: bttt ./ Apl w30m %135 g2.a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / g24 .a s / % L2 X1.5 f4 s r2d / c4 s r2d / a4s s r2d / f4+ s-3 r2d / -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest
Thank you very much, Olivier and Don i used this line: r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-2 \tbu2\ c s1 \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ] r4 / for the code ( the slope adapted a mentioned Don with +4, for not disturbing to muxh the midi) and for making the midi better: r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-1 \tbu2\ cD s1 ] r4 / The last 'cD' sounds to long, but this is hardly to hear on a piano. In any case the synchronising of the 2 hands is right. And thanks for simulation of the trios with an adapted beat, this i should not have found it myself. Andre (i uploaded this piece (componist Heller) ) - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:11 AM Subject: RE: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest You could get the beam angle a little better on the altered group with r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ e ] Also, note that in this special case there was no need to save and restore the original definitions of \tbu and \qb but this will not always be the case. --Don Simons -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music-admin;sunsite.dk]On Behalf Of Olivier Vogel Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest Producing a score that looks fine and producing a sound file that sounds fine are very different tasks. The main task of PMX is the first one: producing handily a beautiful score. The midi files produced by PMX are essentially useful to detect the eventual errors in the score by hearing. So, I think you have to decide which aspect you want to privilege : 1) the quality of the score (what realises the measure 1) 2) or the quality of the sound file (what realises the measure 2) In fact, PMX serves the first task and not the second one. The better solution is to use it for producing good score and to use another program to modificate manually the midi file got with PMX. Here is my proposition for your example: 2 12 4 2 4 0 -4 1 2 20 .02 bt ./ w100m % tempo = 60 It60ipipi %1 looks right, sounds badly a82 ze+ .ea a e / r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ] r4 / %2 sounds right, looks badly (very differently) % tempo = 60 * 1.5 = 90 It90 L2M m12/1/12/16 a82d s a1d s e1d+ a8d e8d // e83d s e1d s r1db r4db / r1 [ c- e ] [u a c ] r r4d / Olivier _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K
I have examples with 200 slurs, it goes all well, but i do not hold my breath during processing. The many files are a drawback. It is not possible to delete them in 1 command. If they were gathered in a directory, it should be easier, but of course i am only the one who tells how to do it (better), not the maker. Andre - Original Message - From: Christof Biebricher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ? As I said, there is a solution; it just is not automatic and thus labor-intensive. I have used musixpss but did not dare to use it for the Kunst der Fuge. Die Kunst der Fuge has several thousand ties and maybe 50 slurs and I do not know how well musixpss would handle such a large number. I considered to reduce the number of ties by using dotted notes. However, Bach wrote his music this way and when playing I see the reason why he did so. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Pmx-MusixTeX: instruments with no coherent bar division
I want bar and meterchanges in random staffs. The \Showbarrule (with \changecontext) repeats the meterchange on every staff, which i don't want. In this example there is a meterchange on a single bar at synchronised barlines and also one within a bar. I made this by trial and error, using TeX commands, but i am sure there is a better way to do this. I will be grateful for any hint on this. Andre --- \def\meq{\smalltype\tinynotesize\metronequiv{\lqu}{\qu}} \def\mbar{\vrule height 4\Interligne depth 0pt width 0.3pt} --- 4 4 9 4 9 9 0 5 1 1 16 0 B T A S bttt ./ \\sepbarrules\ rp / e8 f g a b c b2 a4 g8 s f g a g4 s / r2 r4 r2 r4 r2 e4+ Df+16 / rp / % \hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 r4 / \hsk\llap{\loffset{0.5}{\meterfrac{3}{2}}}\ r4 D\meq+14-4 f e d e f \hsk\llap{\mbar\meterfrac{3}{4}}\ r D\meq+14-3 r8 b b a / \hsk\ b8 c d e f g f2 e4 \hsk\ d8 s c d e d4 s / \hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 b4+ Df+16 / = ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K
Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ? Andre - Original Message - From: Christof Biebricher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K Dear all: I work on improving older typesets. Because the Kneifl-type (pmx: Ap) ties look much better and cause less interference with notes or beams, I chose them. However, they have a setback; If the notes to be tied are close, the tie gets reduced to an almost invisible little hook. If a line break separates the tie, the end of the tie is also nearly invisible. Of course, there is a remedy: simply convert those ties to slurs which come out too short. This turned out in some cases to be a lot of repair and I wonder whether it is possible to introduce a lower bound into the tie length-calculating algorithm. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx bug report
Replacing 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 by 1 1 4 2 4 2 0 -1 solves the problem By the way, what is the most common symbol for a double not, have we to change the shape with: \\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\ Andre - Original Message - From: Bernhard Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: [TeX-music] pmx bug report Hi Don A message Program error in fnote, send source to Dr. Don missleaded me for a minute until i realised that i'd just forgotten to put a meter change. But maybe this tells you something else hidden behind the sceene. Here's the extract giving the same error message. --- 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 0 7 16 0.1 b ./ g92 of Rd / --- And a question concerning the limitation of 12 voices: I'd like to type a piece with 14 voices where 2 x 4 vocal voices could be packed together in 2 x 2 lines (four choirs, voices: BC + 4 + 4 + 3 + 2 == lines: BC + 2 + 2 + 3 + 2). With musixtex or pmx plus inline tex it workes, but it is awfully tiresome. Is there another limitation on the number of voices inside pmx, else than musixtex' limitation? regards Bernhard ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - cords in whole notes and longer notes
Is it possible yo have cords in whole notes and ornaments? They seem to flip below the staff. And to shift a close note in a double whole note cord? This is what happens at my place: 11 6 2 6 2 0 -1 1 1 20 .09 b ./ % e2- f e9 of ze / %with zer \\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\ e2 f za of e9 of zer / %with whole notes e2 f o e0 o of ze e0 of zer / %whole notes without cords e2 f e0 of e0 of / e2 f e0 of e0 of zf / e2 f e9 of zf / m10/2/0/0 e2 f e9 of \bsk\hsk\ fe / === Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: Fingering in PMX (was RE: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?)
1 In piano pieces there are rarely fingernumbers left of the notes. Even with cords, they are stacked above or beneath the chord. If they are between the notes, then the music becomes less readable. 2 I (always) use an 8 pt (postscript)font 3 ... and stacked digits (hight ref on lower digit if above the chord, ...)? 4 I understand the advantage of using the accidental method is that the fingers are placed automatically. If they collide with the accidentals, are they placed then after the notes? Also the o command algorithm puts the symbols nicely above the staff or above the notes (but not the notes with a (shorted) stem above a staff. But i am an amateur, i follow the ideas of the professionals Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?- using the D command
There are examples of piano pieces in the icking site(Chopin,Schuman, Schubert,Benoit, Grieg,...), the commands are in the file mypmxdef.tex. I use them in pmx and Musixtex. Something else: it would be nice if the D-command in pmx that start with a figure should have a tiny (finger)font and that in that case the ... are not used. This is already done in simular thing as Dp Dmp .. they have the \ppff font. Fingercommands then could be something as: D4+3-.2 ... D\tinyfont \t{45} is to be done at the old way I know, i mentioned this before, who am i to ask such things, not knowing if it is possible to do it. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX : local transposition
I used something as \relax{\advance\transpose2\zcharnote{#3}{1}} but if you make a working file , then i could search for a method Andre - Original Message - From: TORRI Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX : local transposition Hello, I would like to write a macro which can put above each note linked by a beam, a number (without giving the pitch of this number...). Example : 1 3 o o | | | | |_| i've tried \def\vtj#1#2#3#4{\ibl{0}{#2}{#1}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{1}}\qb{0}{#3} \tbl{0}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{3}}\qb{0}{#4}} The first number is correctly put, but not the second. I certainly don't understand how to use \transpose several times. Idon't know how it really works. Does someone know how to do that ? Vincent TORRI -- TORRI Vincent Mathematiques Appliquees Bordeaux Institut de Mathematiques Universite Bordeaux 1 351 cours de la liberation 33 405 Talence cedex - France Tel : 33 (0)5 57 96 21 42 Fax : 33 (0)5 56 84 26 26 -- ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?
I copied this file to C:\psfonts and to C:\localtexmf\fonts\type1\musixtex Now it works, thank you very much Takanori Uchiyama Andre (i tried the pc version and the unix version on the icking site, neither of them is working) - Original Message - From: Takanori Uchiyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ? From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ? Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:32:38 +0200 Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file (if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb, then the the ps file is ok) I think that xslhd24.pfb was broken. Please try following. http://macptex.appi.keio.ac.jp/~uchiyama/musixps/xslhd24.pfb.gz -- Takanori Uchiyama, PhD Dept. Applied Physics Physico-Informatics, Fac. Science Technology, KEIO University ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?
I (re)downloaded musixps.zip (4.5MB) from http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html I ran the batchfile to install (Miktex) and refreshed the database. Everything goes well, except when i choose \largemusicsize and using dvips, i got the error: Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file (if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb, then the the ps file is ok) Did i something wrong? Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] experiment on slurs
I am afraid i do not understand yet the slur mechanism (but never dared to confess) i.e. Ap+t : is the adjustment autmatically (for dotted notes) or is it to allow t+0+1 ? Thanks for these comparisons, Andre. I am happy that i can use pmx (musixtex). I have a great admiration for the programms and the makers. I'll only comment about exodusaplt. The l option in Apl+t only alters the line-breaking ties, while +t affects all ties; neither one affects slurs at all. the l and +t option can not be used together? The tie at bar 44 looks fine to me. the tie at the soprano is half a note lower than in the two other ps files (is the difference between tie and slur that the tie start right and ends left of the note?) With some more work I could make l apply to slurs as well. It looks like line-break slurs would also benefit by having the 2nd part start further to the left than the default. Unfortunately, I would also need to work out an algorithm for the height of the beginning of the 2nd part as well; this was a no-brainer for ties since they always end at the same height they start. Would you or anyone else care to suggest an algorithm for the height of the second part of a line-break slur? perhaps let them be horizontal (as is the first part), then the height is given by the end of the slur (and easy to change by the user) The bow of the slurs can be lessened with the f option. If you use that in the tenor in bars 33-34, you may cause a crash with the tie. Then you should tweak the height of the tie. But now you may not be able to get it exactly where you want it (down by 1\internote) because using Ap+t may not allow it. That's exactly why I made \Notieadjust (Ap-t) the default in PMX. I believe the bow of the tie is 2 internotes and this can not be less ? But yes, i forgot to use the f option (f stands for flatter, h for higher and H for more higher an HH ...?) I feel i have no right to nitpick (searched this word in a dictonary). I waited long for slanted hairpins, and now we have them together with slurs that have a large, nice vertical range. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] experiment on slurs
I did an experiment on the slurs on my latest sheet exodus. The results are in users.pandora.be in 3 postscriptfiles See the second page (numbered as 3) mesure 32, 33 and 44 Sorry if i did not understood the new options and used them wrong. exodusorg.ps - with no options The slurs are nice and break well. The bow is rather high. exodusaplt.ps - option Apl+t The slurs are nice but do not break that well (mesure 44). The bow is even more high. exoduspss.ps - option \\input musixpss\relax\ The slurs are a little thin (for me), but acceptable, they break nicely. They are very flat (33), which is for me an advantage. Perhaps a drawback is that they produces many files, with no easy method to delete them in a command. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint - annoying a-repeat
you can play with the meter number as yo can see in this example (sorry it is pmx): (if you dont want to see the meterchanges m8806 --- m8800) = 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 0 4 20 0 t ./ e8 e e e e e e e / m8806 e8 e e e e e e e / m16/16/0/0 e8 e e e e e e e / === Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics
other changing of space in lyrics (in \setlyrics): moving down a word : \lower2pt\hbox{word.} moving up: \raise3pt\hbox{word} moving left: \kernm3ptword moving right: \kern3ptword (or ~word) Andre - Original Message - From: Kurt Kehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rainer Dunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Rainer Dunker wrote: \verses{,\lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em},,,% \lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em}}% Thank you. This is wonderful. By the way: You can skip over notes within \setlyrics even with a simple '~' instead of \empty{}, which makes writing and reading your score somewhat easier. I will put this to use also. Thanks again for taking the time to work through the examples I had posted. Kurt Kehler ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4
m4400 Andre - Original Message - From: Stefan Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4 On Thu, 16 May 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: I am not sure if i understand it all, but your lines could be made by this code: m4434 How can I avoid the meter to be printed? I want to do a silent meter change. Stefan ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - trying to understand
How should i code this, for the midi to play the two 'c' as 1 note (see original without Ap, a correct but not so beautiful example )? = 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 b ./ w60m I Ap e84 stl Ct e4 st zc+ / === Thanks Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -
Here i have a music line that behave on an other way with postscript slurs. Which way is the right one? (remove Ap to see the difference) - Is the hairpin slope a new feature? - the tie has an offset 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 b ./ w60m Ap c84 st D g4- st D+15 / == Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser
Propably i misinstalled the psslur system, i cannot get them right. I tested this code and the result in postscript (25k) is on http://users.pandora.be/avr/ My question is: am i the only one with this result and in that case what i have done wrong? Andre 11 3 8 0 0 0 0 1 1 20 0.07 t ./ Ap \\input musixps\ c15 s g c- s e e e / = ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX.
Perhaps musixtex redefines the line lenght? I tried accollades: {\input musixtex ... \endextract % terminate excerpt }% The output is in that case very normal Andre - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX. Can anyone see why the extract is screwing up the page layout (width, font, and indentation)? If I comment it out, the page is centered differently (properly) and the width is constant like it should be. === \hsize6.5in \vsize9in \font\twelverom=cmr12 \twelverom Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. % % Extract copied from musixdoc {\input musixtex \parindent10mm \instrumentnumber{1} % a single instrument \setname1{Piano} % whose name is Piano \setstaffs1{2} % with two staffs \generalmeter{\meterfrac44}% 4/4 meter chosen \startextract % starting real score \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\ql l\sk\ql n\en \bar \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{dgf}|\qlp i\en \notes\tbu0\qb0g|\ibbl1j3\qb1j\tbl1\qb1k\en \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en \endextract % terminate excerpt }% Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla. \bye === --Don Simons ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] a4 paper
\def\pagforaiv{\special{papersize=210mm,297mm}%only for pdf (default is letter) \hoffset=-12.4mm\hsize=210mm\advance\hsize-23mm% \voffset=-15.4mm\vsize=297mm\advance\vsize-20mm\advance\vsize-12pt}% \pageforaiv - I do something like that. If you use acrobat for printing, then the \special solves everything (overwrites the acrobat reader install for letter format). (Acrobat reader adapt the the layout for the page format, even without formatting for A4) If you want other margins, adapt the offsets Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Program error, tied notes, send source to Dr. Don
I am sorry, to bargain the list again with this This (see subject) is what i got on mesure 4, but i am afraid i am doing something wrong In the test programm, when removing the midi line 'It120iororor', then there is no error. - --- \input musixtex --- % % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 3-2 1 2 6 8 6 8 0 -2 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 1 1 20 .04 Ped. Man. bbt ./ It120iororor rp g42,g g,g / g23d st zb s1t zd s2t | g2d- st zb s1t zd s2t / rp rp / %7 d4,d+ c,c | b,a g8 f e / e43d zg zb fd s2t zd | f s2t ,d gd // rb4d a43d s1t | ad s1t bd / e4d dd | d stu ,c zd st s1t dd s1t // g44,g f,f | d,f gd / -- Thanks beforehand for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] Chord Grace notes
Is there a better way to implement chord Grace notes? This is the best i can: - 2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2 1 1 20 .03 bt ./ w150 c43 b+ zes esi zb / Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 // Gxse4s g24dn / --- Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MS-DOS woes
This are my settings (i think the same for 2000 and XP) set PATH=c:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx;%path% is replaced by: in 2000, control panel - system - advanced - environment. : MUSc:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx Path%MUS%;c:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WIND. Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - the wonderful D option
This are a few thing i use, propably there are better ways, but this use the pmx commands (i think). Don had asked for suggestions, here they are: - it would be nice if the D could be flipped above the staffs, something as at the trios - i do not know how to globally change the fonts on text in the D command, ie for making fingerprints. Perhaps things as D1, D45 (D starting with a figure) without the and in a footnotesize (as Df is in ppff font). * Printing revisions, copyright information, dates, etc at the bottom or top of each page. this can be done in a footnote, see the many examples on the icking site * Using more than one line for titles (Tt, Tc). an other option beside \\ is using * Globally redefine PMX fonts (i use \smalltype in Tc). i do not know how to do this, but i prefer a font ie in a command the can be adapted * Positioning segno and coda symbols (i use \loffset and \roffset). I us the pmx D, ie 'D\segno+15-10' see example * Positioning text like Solo ad lib and D. C. al Coda (i use \loffset, \roffset and \zchar). D again (Don has created here a small command with big power). If the text is to long use a text command (see example) * Using note symbols (segno, coda, quarter note) in dacapo and metronome directions. D command see metron in example 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 0 4 20 0.08 t ./ Tt t h t \\def\Title{\vbox{\hbox{one}\hbox{Alto}\hbox{Two}\hbox{\bf Three}}}\ \\centerline{\Title}\ \\def\longtext{this is a long texttexttexttext}\ c44 D\metron{\hu}{60}+18 c44 D\bf\longtext+17+2 g44 g44 / a44 a44 g24 D\Segno+15-10 / -- Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] pmx - upbeat
Thank you very much Don, yes it solve my problem the last but 1 line is IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 (I forgot to move the m3400 at the split and got the error) . -- 11 1 8 3 4 0 -4 1 1 16 .07 t ./ I % 0 and 1 e84 Rl / \\\advance\barno-1\ IMR1 m3400 c45d e8 b c / IM IMR2 % 2 V1.2.~and~3 r4 r r8 e Rr / % 3 and 4 only accompaniment IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 IMP2 Vb V~Fine dd24 ed / --- I'll look into this, but please don't hold your breath. Thanks i feel better now Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - 2 D that follow each other -- musixlyr - assignlyricsmulti
Sorry for indicating 2 problems in 1 mail 1. When i have two D in consequence, sometimes the second one is eaten up by the first 2. The musixlyr makes the helplines (ie on the lower c) to long this is an example, my apologies if the error is mine, this are the effects: 1. The Df becomes an DF 2.removing \\\assignlyricsmulti12{wien}\lyrraisemulti12{a 6\internote}\ makes the helplines allright ---cut here --- \input musixtex \input pmx \input musixlyr % \setlyrics{wien}% {Wien, Wien, nur du al-lein} --- 213 8 3 8 0 -1 1 1 20 .00 bt ./ \\\assignlyricsmulti12{wien}\lyrraisemulti12{a 6\internote}\ f42l DF zf+ za zc Df+22-1 f8- za zc | [l f8-- f+ za zc f- za zc ] / a8 c a c8 e4- / -- Thanks for looking at it Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] New upload ftp address
I am using WS_FTP Pro Explorer (in Windows XP) Host Name: upload.sunsite.dk UserID: mutex-anon Password: mutex Account: (blanco) Anonymous: (blanco) All other fields : not changed I am not aware of any problem Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] from ps - pdf - eps with adobe illustrator
Thanks to everyone for responding Indeed the mass on the site is with a bitmap fonts, but i had used the new ps fonts for the printing office, as my more recent pdf files on the site use postscript fonts. In the printing office they extract the eps from pdf . The problem is that the fonts are substituted by other characterfonts while loading an eps file (1 page) in illustrator. I tried to put the musixps pfb fonts in the mac, but they are not recognised. The 'contours' define the surroundings of the character (note). One can move a single char (note) in illustrator. I don't know the English word (people here have the bad habit of translating in Flemish) but the command on illustrator is Ctrl+Shift+O for making them. The layouter in the printoffice demonstrated an other example, from a person from the USA from a windows pc, that he was able to handle. I cannot work with the adobe programs, i thought once a mac is installed with the musixps fonts, it should work. On the other hand it is possible to print a pdf file from a pc on a mac with or without ps fonts, it only can not be changed Perhaps people are working on musixtex on a mac with ps fonts? Andre Van Ryckeghem ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] from ps - pdf - eps with adobe illustrator
Hi all, I was been asked by a printing office that was willing to layout the Mechelaere mass (see icking site) for a pdf file, but: The person works with Mac and wants my pdf file to edit with illustrator for making small corrections. He wants the fonts with 'character contours'. The best thing i can do is making the pdf with destiller, but then the musicnote fonts are substituted by character fonts in illustrator. Is there anybody who is willing to help me for the choice of the fonts, installing them and the procedure to make the 1 page eps files (for making caterns)? Or point me to a place where i can learn this? Thank you very much Andre Van Ryckeghem ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PDF display redux
The printer is HP laserjet 5MP, postscript, directly connected I do not remember if i had wrong printouts with acrobat 5.0 (but the screenoutput was) I checked again http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html and the version now is 5.0.5 which i have not tested yet Andre - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] PDF display redux - Original Message - From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] PDF display redux I am using acrobat reader 5.02 (downloaded from acrobat) In my case, some of the slurs are vanished when i use the viewer (on screen}, but on the printed output everything seems ok. [...] Is it a PostScript printer ? Directly plugged to your PC, or through a network ? Someone with a non-PostScript printer plugged to his PC complained to me about some missing slurs on the printed output, with Acrobat 5. Jean-Pierre Coulon ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PDF display redux
I am using acrobat reader 5.02 (downloaded from acrobat) In my case, some of the slurs are vanished when i use the viewer (on screen}, but on the printed output everything seems ok. So, this one is (for me) the best reader I produce the pdfs with the icons in WinEdt (not with gsview) Andre - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: [TeX-music] PDF display redux Hello everyone, among the feedback I've been getting for the BWV995 edition now available in the Archive have been the now-familiar reports that Acrobat 4 doesn't display the ties. What was news to me is that apparently there can be problems with GSView as well. Somebody running GSView 4.0 and GS 7.0 on Win98SE reported that the dotted slur in bar 20 of Gavotte II was missing when viewed in GSView. The analogous one near the beginning of the movement was there, though. I would have expected any problem to affect either both slurs or neither -- the second one, in the MusiXTeX source is a cutpaste job of the first. But that's what this person said he was getting. I have GSView 3.3 and GS 6.01, and both the slurs are OK when I load the file. But then, so are the ties when viewed in Acrobat 4 on my machine... Eva Guitar edition of J.S. Bach, Lute Suite BWV 995 now available at: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/Instr.html#bach995 -- Bach ist der Vater, wir sind die Buben. Wer von uns was Rechtes kann, hat's von ihm gelernt. -- W. A. Mozart ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] problem with xtuplets in pmx
I had to remove the %'s for pmx to work this is an example, for the tie you have to experiment a little bit (i used +5) 11 2 42 40 0 1 1 160.12 Violin t ./ (t f24/ f2Dx3n3 )+0+5 af / e2 / -- Andre - Original Message - From: Cornelius C. Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: [TeX-music] problem with xtuplets in pmx I have 2 problems in writing xtuplets in pmx, which may or may not be related. Look at the following example: % % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, % 11 2 42 40 0 % % % % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent % 0 6 160.12 % Violin % t % ./ % % % (t f2/% bar 1% f2x3n+2f f ) af /% bar 2% e2 /% bar 3% % % (i) Obviously, I would rather have a halfnote f in bar 2 instead of the two quarternote f's; but I don't know how to do that. The pmx manual says that it is possible to have notes of different duration in xtuplets, but doesn't tell you how to code that, (ii) once that is done, I would like the tie to extend from the halfnote f in bar 1 to the halfnote f in bar 2 (i.e. 2/3 of the triplet); but since the beginning of the xtuplet notation in pmx doesn't allow spaces, I don't know where (and how) to place the closing ). What seems to look logical, viz. (t f2 / f22x3n+2 ) af / e2 / is severely disliked by pmx. Any help anybody? Don?? Thanks, ccn. -- . _|_ / | \ \_|_/Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. NoackPhones: _|_ __ Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 | | | \ Universitat Bremen secretary: -2422 |__| |__/ Kufsteiner Strasse Fax : -4869 | | | \ D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 | | |__/ Fax: 346 7872 PhyHB E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW-page: www-theorie.physik.uni-bremen.de/~noack ... ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll
Thank you Stanislav, hi all I have tried to show the effects in all methods with the small testfile in previous email: 1. pmx without musixps --- tslrnops.ps 2. pmx with musixps --- tslr.ps = with Ae (tslr.tex) 3. musixtex file with the pmx commands removed and 'input musixps' added tslrt.tex - tslrt.ps only the 3th one can run without pmx Because the total file length = 100K i do not put them in the mail, but you can get them from http://users.pandora.be/avr/musixpsslur/ These are 3 different outputs, but in all case i found the endline slur a little bit high I can live with 2 of the 3 start slurs Andre - Original Message - From: Stanislav Kneifl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll Hi Andre and all, as I ported the PS slurs from OpusTeX to MusiXTeX just for the community, I do not use MusiXTeX, M-Tx or PMX myself. Therefore, if you ask for some enhancement or point out some oddity in the slurs, enclose please the TeX source file for me. Concerning the slur breaking issue - we have discussed this recently with Christian Mondrup. One problem is that previous versions of PMX used slurs instead of ties for equally pitched notes. If you correct this, you will solve also most of the incorrectly breaked slurs (ties are breaked across a line much more often than slurs). Secondly, I have chosen the somewhat sloped first part of the breaked slur for some reasons: - at the time of the break you can not know (in TeX, not in PMX) anything about the ending pitch of the slur, - to minimize the number of cases where the collision between slur and the notes at the end of the line would have to be solved manually, - even for a horizontal group it is better to visually emphasize the fact that the slur continues to the next system. I can add some switch for this, but I personally don't think it is really necessary (at least if people will use real ties instead of slurs). Best regards, Stanislav Kneifl. Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: This is what i mean (remove the comment (%) for seeing the difference): If this could be solved then the ps slurs are wonderfull. -- 1 1 2 4 2 4 0 0 0 1 20 0 t ./ %Ap w20m a45 s g / e45 s g / -- - Original Message - From: Christian Mondrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: I do not use them for the moment because: The small slurs in ps are much smaller (shorter) than the old slurs; The continuation slur over a line ends much higher than the old ones at the end of the first line and is to small at the continuation line. This i must confess: the slurs with a large vertical distance are much better Perhaps if the breaking of the slurs at the end of a line could be changed, then i will use them, but of course i do not know how to do it (finding oddities is much easier than patching them) The height of postscript *slurs* is configurable as indicated by the quote from a private email from Stanislav Kneifl: And one tip - do not redefine \tslur, use smaller value for the defult \def\psslurhgt{1} instead (fractions allowed). Slurs are for phrasing while *ties* are for tiing equally pitched notes for example across bar- and line breaks. If you use the recently added PMX (v. 2.355) token 't' together with Ap then you'll get postscript ties that do not have continuation problems. Bye -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll
This is what i mean (remove the comment (%) for seeing the difference): If this could be solved then the ps slurs are wonderfull. -- 1 1 2 4 2 4 0 0 0 1 20 0 t ./ %Ap w20m a45 s g / e45 s g / -- - Original Message - From: Christian Mondrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andre Van Ryckeghem [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slur poll Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote: I do not use them for the moment because: The small slurs in ps are much smaller (shorter) than the old slurs; The continuation slur over a line ends much higher than the old ones at the end of the first line and is to small at the continuation line. This i must confess: the slurs with a large vertical distance are much better Perhaps if the breaking of the slurs at the end of a line could be changed, then i will use them, but of course i do not know how to do it (finding oddities is much easier than patching them) The height of postscript *slurs* is configurable as indicated by the quote from a private email from Stanislav Kneifl: And one tip - do not redefine \tslur, use smaller value for the defult \def\psslurhgt{1} instead (fractions allowed). Slurs are for phrasing while *ties* are for tiing equally pitched notes for example across bar- and line breaks. If you use the recently added PMX (v. 2.355) token 't' together with Ap then you'll get postscript ties that do not have continuation problems. Bye -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] slurs, chords and pointed notes
I have a (very little) problem with the position of the slurs in examples like this: 1 1 1 4 1 4 0 0 0 1 20 0 t ./ w100m e84 s zc .g+ s / rb4 // e84 s zc .g+ s / - am i doing something wrong? Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] missing slurs in Acrobat 5.0
The solution to this is using acrobat 4 Andre - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:41 AM Subject: [TeX-music] missing slurs in Acrobat 5.0 I am using Acrobat Reader 5.0.1 on NT, and some ties and other horizontal slurs disappear in the pdf's of our Archive. An example is page 42, section 2.12.1.4 of: http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/musixtex/musixdoc.pdf (short ties paragraph) clues: 1: these ties seem to be OK with the Linux version of Acrobat. 2: the ties re-appear when you print the .pdf on a PostScript printer through a network. 3: the ties re-appear when you view and print the .pdf with GSview 4: the ties also disappear when you use Acrobat 5 on Windows 98, and when you print with an non-PostScript printer directly plugged on the PC. 5: the ties are OK in the bigger musixdoc.pdf included in musixtex.zip. Help welcome. Jean-Pierre Coulon E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur Département FRESNEL, groupe ILGA BP 4229 06304 NICE Cedex 4 Tel: (33) {0}4 92 00 31 58 Fax: (33) {0}4 92 00 31 38 ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Bug in musixps? (was RE: I do noy know how to use musixps.tex in pmx)
Thank you very much, Don As a result of your tests, i think my ps slurs are installed well (i only tried nohalfties, after i got the error) Andre (shall i edit my sources for the new centerline or wait a little while?) - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Bug in musixps? (was RE: I do noy know how to use musixps.tex in pmx) Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote Using musixps, the broken slurs are bad. In the example, removing the line with musixps in it the slurs are ok. ... -- 11 3 4 34 0 2 1 2 20 0 b ./ w50m \\input musixps \nohalfties\ b43 s b b b b b s / - First, I don't believe \nohalfties is being observed, due to PMX syntax issues. Probably would have the desired effect if you remove the space before \, but safest to put it on a separate line. As to your main point, this looks to me like a bug, with or without \nohalfties, and with or without the narrower width. Stanislav? (It's a slur over a line break that ends on a note toward the end of the second line). --Don Simons ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] i do noy know how to use musixps.tex in pmx
Using musixps, the broken slurs are bad. In the example, removing the line with musixps in it the slurs are ok. I propably have done something wrong while installing the ps slurs. I do not understand the use of the mxsk font either. I will be grateful for any help Andre -- 11 3 4 34 0 2 1 2 20 0 b ./ w50m \\input musixps \nohalfties\ b43 s b b b b b s / - ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx - new centerline
How should i change this in tex line in pmx, version 2.352 ? \\setname2{\vbox{\hsize\parindent\centerline{Soprano}\centerline{Alto}}}\ Thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] pmx: accidentals and long lines
I have to type an organ sheet with long lines (landscape). The distance between notes with accidentals is to large in this long lines (it seems to be ok when the lines are shorter) Is it possible to reduce the distances in this example (second line)? --- --- \special{papersize=320mm,240mm} --- 1 184 0 0 0 0 1 2 20 .0 t ./ \\voffset=-18.4mm\vsize=240mm\advance\vsize-20mm\ \\hoffset=-12.4mm\hsize=320mm\advance\hsize-23mm\advance\hsize-12pt\ a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | L2 a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | a84 a af a a4 af a8 af af a a4 a | / -- Thank you for helping me Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: Re[2]: [TeX-music] M-Tx
replace [j by [lj : g4 [lj g8 g ] g4 [lj g8 g ] / [u g8 g ]j g4 [u g8 g ]j g4 / Andre - Original Message - From: Anton A. Eltchaninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tex-music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re[2]: [TeX-music] M-Tx Hello Christian, Thursday, December 06, 2001, 3:54:49 PM, you wrote: Is there method in M-Tx to make interstave beams, for right hand played notes from bass voice on the piano for example? CM Style: piano CM Meter: C CM Bars/Line: 6 CM [l g8 g ]j g4 [l g8 g ]j g4 | CM g4 [j g8 g ] g4 [j g8 g ] | CM Staff jumping beams is a PMX feature and described in section 2.2 of the CM PMX documentation. M-Tx users, don't forget to study the PMX docs CM carefully! CM Bye What is wrong in this: Style: piano Meter: C Bars/Line: 6 g4 [j g8 g ] g4 [j g8 g ] | [u g8 g ]j g4 [u g8 g ]j g4 | In PMX doc there are words about this problem: Sometimes the ending section's up-downness must be overridden; you will know this is so if the ending is shifted horizontally from its proper position. but is not clear for me how to do it. -- Best regards, Antonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MiKTeX MusiXTeX et. al.
I installed the latest MikTeX on windowsxp and used the readme file (Takanori Uchiyama) from the musix_ps directory on the http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/ (mentioned as ZIP) Takanori Uchiyama gives an example of batch file to install There are (for me) a few things to remember: 1. Miktex has the type 1 fonts in the distribution C:\texmf\fonts\type1\bluesky and C:\texmf\fonts\type1\public\musixps I think they propably are to be replaced by new ones. 2. the ligatures are replaced by a pound sign (in Latex) 3. the old: set PATH=c:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx;%path% in windows98 must be repaced in windowsxp or 2000 by a setting in: control panel - system - advanced - environment. (thanks to helpful people on the list) 4. With the old(er) miktex i was able to install a musixtex.fmt with musixtex.tex in it (much faster) the install file musixtex.ins (edited from the distribution) was: \input musixtex %\input musixcpt %\input musixsty \tracingstats=2\relax \dump The initex batch file: C:\texmf\miktex\BIN\INITEX.EXE plain musixtex.ins pause copy musixtex.fmt C:\Local TeXMF\miktex\fmt del musixtex.fmt and an example of use (in a batch file): C:\texmf\miktex\BIN\VIRTEX.EXE musixtex %1.tex Now it should be possible to use the Miktex wizard start - programs - MiKTeX - MiKTeX Option to add a format file i used these parameters: compiler=tex description=musixtex input=musixtex.ins but it did not worked out. I added a file '\input plain' in musixtex.ins but it does not help. Now i use TeX and edit all my (musix,pmx)files with the line \input musixtex Andre - Original Message - From: Christian Mondrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TeX-Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: [TeX-music] MiKTeX MusiXTeX et. al. Dear all. Today I've had the opportunity to install MiKTeX (v. 2.1) from scratch on a win98 pc. Hereby I also got the chance to test whether my guidelines for first time installation of MusiXTeX software on unix machines (see http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/musixtex/musixtex-for-unix.h tml) apply for MiKTeX as well. This turns out to be generally the case. I got the type 1 fonts working for dvipdfm as well by just following the installation instructions in the distribution file. And this is actually what is important to me. However the installation of the type 1 fonts for postscript use can't be done as described in the distribution because the file texmf\dvips\config\updmap is a shell script which is identic with the one found in the unix TeTeX installations. Such a shell script can only be executed on a win9x pc if a bash shell interpreter is also installed. If any of you can supply a working method for installation of type 1 fonts for postscript on win9x then it shouldn't be that hard to provide a MusiXTeX intallation HOWTO for MiKTeX. Bye -- Christian Mondrup, Computer Programmer Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus Brendstrupgaardsvej, DK 8200 Aarhus N, Denmark Phone: +45 89 49 53 01 - http://www.scandiatransplant.org ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Inverted slurs in PMX235
I think the number 0 of the slur interfere with the pmx automatic slurs. replacing the 0 by 6 helps: -- 2 1 9 4 9 4 0 -5 0 1 20 .07 bt ./ Ab B w100m % Bar 75 gdl22 ? zd+ zb+ \isluru6{-4}\ bdl- ? zf+ zb gd- zd+ zg / dd2 (t+0+.5 dd \invertslur6\loff{\tslur6{-15}}\ d2 )t zb c4 ze // (0+5 dd45 ? c8 b4 )0+6 (2+6 (1t+0+.5 ad2 ? ad4 )1t bd )2+5 / - Andre - Original Message - From: Luigi Cataldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Inverted slurs in PMX235 Dear all, when I try to use PMX 235 with an inverted slur inserted with a tex command, the resulting TEX file has a mistake in the slur. Note that if I recompile the PMX source file with PMX 2342 all is ok. Is there some explanation? Here is the example: % 2 1 9 4 9 4 0 -5 0 1 20 .07 bt ./ Ab B w100m % Bar 75 gdl22 ? zd+ zb+ \isluru0{-4}\ bdl- ? zf+ zb gd- zd+ zg / dd2 (t+0+.5 dd \invertslur0\loff{\tslur0{-15}}\ d2 )t zb c4 ze // (0+5 dd45 ? c8 b4 )0+6 (2+6 (1t+0+.5 ad2 ? ad4 )1t bd )2+5 / ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
[TeX-music] musixlyr 2, other behavior
if recompile old pmx files, on version 2 of musxlyr, when using melismas the lyrics areno mere shifted to the right but start on the corresponding note (see example). Is there a way for preventing this (without going back to version 1)? - --- % \input musixtex \input pmx \input musixlyr %\input musixcho % \setlyrics{long}% {lng lng looong looong a_ b_ c } \assignlyrics1{long} --- 1144 0 6 0 0 1 1 16 .0 t ./ a84 a a a a st a st a st a st | rp rp rp rp / thanks for helping Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Printing problems with type-1 fonts
I also have the problem that a slur that continue over 2 lines not show on the first line. an example of this is in the icking site (vocal) in the Kerst-Gloria: There a slur should start in the soprano voice on the 1st note of mesure 17 and end on the 1st note of mesure 20. In the postscriptfile its ok, but in the pdf the slur only starts on the next line. This pdf file is made by Christian out of a dvi file. I did it also at home (with: dvipdfm -s 2-5 kerstgloria -- learned from Christian Mondrup) with the same results. I am viewing the pdfs with acrobat 5 on the screen. Andre - Original Message - From: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'mutex' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: [TeX-music] Printing problems with type-1 fonts I work in Windows98. I produce a dvi and a ps file running emtex and dvips32 in a DOS window. I use the new type-1 musix fonts. I think I have the most up-to-date versions. Normally I make a PDF file from the ps using (Windows) Acrobat Distiller 4.0, and print from there to a Laserjet 4MV (non-postscript). However in one case I noticed some longer slurs, both horizontal and slanted, are not printing properly; both ends are cut off. Suspecting my non-postscript printer, I tried printing from (Windows) Ghostview (GSview32 Version 2.7). Voila, the problem goes away. But another problem has arisen in its place. Using DOS versions of dvidvi, dviselec, and dviconca, I make side-by-side images on 11-by-17-inch (ledger) paper so I can make 8.5-by-11-inch booklets. Then I run dvips32 with the -tledger option. The ps looks fine in ghostview, showing the side-by-side pages when I menu-select Media|Ledger. The problem is that only the left half of the page is printed. I cannot figure out how to get Ghostview to tell the printer that it is sending a full ledger sheet. Ghostview uses a non-standard interface to the printer that does not give access to the printer properties in the normal Windows way; if it did, I'd know exactly what to do. All these problems go away if I use bitmapped fonts. The font problems go away when I use a postscript printer, but I don't have access to one that will handle ledger paper. So if I abandon the type-1 fonts I have a complete workaround, but I'd really like to make this all work with the type-1 fonts, and I'm almost there. Any ideas how to get Windows-Ghostview to print the whole ledger sheet? --Don Simons ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] 3rd line of music
perhaps you maen something like this --- % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 11 4 44 40 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 11 20 0.07 % t ./ w100m h100m % Measure 1 - 4 g43 za+ g- g za+ f- // %a44 r a r / a45 a b c / Andre - Original Message - From: Joerg Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:59 AM Subject: [TeX-music] 3rd line of music On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Don Simons wrote: PMX is perfectly capable of polyphony. You can enter two lines of music per staff, separated by //. Ok! But it seems it ignores the 3rd line of music. Or what's wrong here: % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig, 11 4 44 40 0 % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent 11 20 0.07 % t ./ w100m h100m % Measure 1 - 4 g43 g g f // a44 r a r // a45 a b c / -- J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Ack.polyphony / triplets
i suppose you mean a qu g in stead of a hu g (for a total of 4/4) this are examples (middle mesure): 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 1 20 0 t ./ c24x4F d e a / c24x4n3 d eD a / c24x4Fn3 X-1 d X-.5 e a / - - Original Message - From: Joerg Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andreas Kurth [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Ack.polyphony / triplets On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Andreas Kurth wrote: Joerg Anders wrote: Somewhere I saw a hint about better triplet handling in PMX. (The letter 'D' played a great role if I remember this right). Is it in UNIX PMX version, too? Sure it is. The D option has been introduced in PMX 2.3 IIRC; there is a UNIX package available for that version. But the restriction that the last element of an x-tuplet cannot be a rest ist still valid? And is there a possibility to express: - \input musixtex \hsize=100mm \vsize=100mm \def\nbinstruments{1} \instrumentnumber{1} \setclef10 \generalmeter{\meterfrac{4}{4}}% \startmuflex\startpiece% \notes\downtrio{O}{2}{4}\cu e\en \notes\cu f\en \NOtes\hu g\en \NOTes\hu h\en \Endpiece \bye -- J.Anders, Chemnitz, GERMANY ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Beam across staves and other problems
Are you saying pmx 2.331 acts different from some other version when you try to shift the treble clef? Please clarify. Sorry, my fault, i thought this version solved the schifting of the treble, i did not read the readme I believe you could do all of this more neatly with \\let\pmxclefsav\pmxclef\ \\def\PCLN{\gdef\pmxclef##1##2{\loffset{.8}{\pmxclef##1##2}}\ \\global\let\pmxclef\pmxclefsav}}\ ... \PCLN\ gn21 o zg+n Ct [u+4+11 f84 zaf zc o^ ]j rb8 Rd // Yes, with only one command but i had it to change a little bit (accolades, and for one obscure reason i have to define the global\let first: \\let\pmxclefsav\pmxclef\ \\def\PCLN{\ \\gdef\pmxclef##1##2{\global\let\pmxclef\pmxclefsav\loffset{.8}{\pmxclef##1##2}}}\ Comments: 1. You can't put \PCLN\ right before Ct because--by the rules for type-1 TeX strings--it wouldn't be activated until just before [u+4+11 f84 ... 2. You don't need to globalize the definition of \PCLN\ since it's done with type-2 strings, which are already global enough. You do need to globalize the redefinition of \pmxclef because it doesn't work otherwise :-) . This is a mystery to me. You may or may not need to globalize the \let that restores the original definition...I didn't have the patience to do the tests. You also replaced the first solid notehead of the triplet with a half note by using \\let\qbsav\qb\ \\def\HA{\ \\def\qb##1##2{\let\qb\qbsav\ha{##2}}}\ ... \HA\ [-1 gnfi42x3 d+ g ] rb2 / Again, I just don't think this is good notation. I think you should leave it the way you had it before, with two noteheads side-by-side. Aside from that, the only reason it works here is that the upstem on the half note happens to be *exactly* the right length to end at the beam. I agree, but its nice that it is possible to do it. In fact, i had to lower the beam ( [-1..). I think the half g at the triplet is token in pmx (can sing midi but one must use the fi in gnfi42x3 for no dissonants) I don't understand this. First, I don't understand why you need all those accidentals in the first place. Is there a key signature that's been omitted in the example? If so, then it must have a g-flat (since you have a g-natural on the first beat of the example). But then it would also need a d-flat, and you haven't put naturals on the d's, which would make for some rather wierd harmony. But more to the point, I don't understand the need for fi. I never intended it to be possible to enter more than one accidental on the same note, so if gnfi does anything at all it's just an accident. But with just gn42x3 it sounds OK to me (the g's are naturals), and it sounds exactly the same as with the fi. an error: it must be a gni in stead of a gnfi Perhaps in the original long version, there are sharps at the key. about the fi: I know there was once a mail that explained where the fi's are needed and when not, i.e. only once in a mesure? I do not find it back in the list emails. I suppose it dont hurt to put plenty of fi's Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Broken (de)crescendo
for an example of this, and slanted hairpins look at http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/scores/Instr.html Robert Schumann Traumerei (source is downloadable) Andre - Original Message - From: Luigi Cataldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: [TeX-music] Broken (de)crescendo Dear all, I'm typesetting a piece with a lot of crescendo lines. Sometime a crescendo extends across line breaks. In this case I need break the crescendo in the end of the first music line and restart it in the next music line not in the normal way ( ) but with the two lines not joint on their beginning. Nearly the same happen with decrescendo. I see that Jean-Pierre Coulon use this kind of broken crescendo lines in his Favorite salon pieces, vol. 2 at p. 42 (a very good typesetting!). In what way I can do that? Thanks Luigi Cataldi ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] interstaff invisible barlines - interinstrument
1. \\setinterinstrument1{4\Interligne}\setinterinstrument2{2\Interligne}\ etc... 2. I am curious to know it also Andre ; - Original Message - From: Alexandros Droseltis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MTX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: [TeX-music] interstaff invisible barlines Hello everyone! I am typesetting a piano piece with PMX. 1) I want to have a different vertical space between the 2 staves at each system (sometimes on the same page). I tried Ai.9, Ai.5 before the corresponding systems, but it didn't work. Then I tried \\\atnextline\interstaff{15} but it did not always work. Is there an other option to do this? 2) How can I make some (or all) barlines invisible? Thanks Alexandros ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] headlines, footlines pagenumbers with TeX
forgot } after three - \instrumentnumber{1} \footline={\ifodd\pageno% {{one} \hfill {two}\hfill {three~\folio}}% \else {{\folio}% \hfill {four}\hfill {five}}% \fi } \startpiece % % PAGE 1 % \headline={\centerline{FIRST PAGE}}% \Notes\nq{hijkl}\en\alapage % % PAGE 2 % \Notes\nq{hijkl}\en \headline={SECOND PAGE}% \endpiece \end - Original Message - From: Alexandros Droseltis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MTX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: [TeX-music] headlines, footlines pagenumbers with TeX Hallo everyone! I include an example, .tex and .ps. Neither the headlines nor the footline (pagenumbers) are displayed. What's wrong? Alexandros \instrumentnumber{1} \footline={\ifodd\pageno% {{one}% \hfill {two}\hfill {three\folio}\hfill}% \else {{\folio}% \hfill {four}\hfill {five}}% \fi} \startpiece % % PAGE 1 % \headline={\centerline{FIRST PAGE}}% \Notes\nq{hijkl}\en\alapage % % PAGE 2 % \Notes\nq{hijkl}\en \headline={SECOND PAGE}% \endpiece \end ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Archive of macros, tricks, and tips. How to handle pmx errors
I like the idea. Is this some kind of a contribution? (What follows is an ode to Don.) --pmx-errors (examples)-- bad error in fnote - you forgot something as m5800, or put it not immediate in the first voice (upper voice) severe (27): too many records in I/O statement, unit -5 File Internal Formatted Write - forgot octadenumber begin block i.e. a4 and not a44 - or notes are to high or to low on the staff - wrong number i.e. AI.3.5 cannot having blank in floating figure x1 in stead of X1 problem finding grace index in makeabar [-32 in stead of [-2 Merged Type-1 TeX-string longer than 128 characters. h+4- in stead of h+4 runaway arg (in TeX pass) line too long (more than 80 chars) below h-command missing number, treated as zero (in TeX pass) \generalsignature{**} - K+0-10 in stead of K+0-1 too many records in I/O statement ... - forgotten to mention the octave i.e. f2 instead of f24 at the beginning of the piece. (tex hangs but pmx is normal) - notes comes to low or to high i.e. a- must be a+ - Andre ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] shorthand for repeated sixteenths in pmx ?
This is an attempt to do this. And this are the drawbacks: - not tested thoroughly - the midi will not twinkle - does not work for all the pitches (see last mesure) - 2 2 2 4 2 4 0 -3 1 1 20 0 tt ./ \\let\husav\hu\ \\let\hlsav\hl\ \\def\FE{\ \\def\hl##1{\let\hu\husav\let\hl\hlsav\ \\relax{\advance\transpose2\loffset{0.5}{\ibl0{##1}9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbl0}}\ha{##1}}\ \\def\hu##1{\let\hu\husav\let\hl\hlsav\ \\relax{\advance\transpose-3\loffset{0.5}{\ibu0{##1}9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbu0}}\ha{##1}}}\ \\def\FEE{\ \\def\hl##1{\let\hu\husav\let\hl\hlsav\ \\relax{\advance\transpose2\loffset{0.5}{\ibbl0{##1}9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbl0}}\ha{##1}}\ \\def\hu##1{\let\hu\husav\let\hl\hlsav\ \\relax{\advance\transpose-3\loffset{0.5}{\ibbu0{##1}9}\roffset{0.5}{\tbu0}}\ha{##1}}}\ %1 g24 \FE\ g \FE\ a a \FEE\ b \FE\ c c \FE\ a+ \FEE\ a \FE\ a+ / g24 \FE\ f \FE\ e a \FEE\ d \FE\ c c \FE\ a+ \FEE\ a \FE\ a+ / -- - Original Message - From: Cornelius C. Noack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:25 PM Subject: [TeX-music] shorthand for repeated sixteenths in pmx ? Hello, does anyone know whether there is a construct in pmx for writing the usual shorthand for repeated eighths/sixteenths ? In musixtex you can write \loffset\{0.5}{\ibu0c9}\roffset{0.5}\tbu0\hu{f}% 4 eights on c \loffset\{0.5}{\ibbu0b9}\roffset{0.5}\tbbu0\hu{f} % 8 sixteenths on c [this trick was invented by Werner Icking (!); e.g. MusixTeX manual p.29]. But pmx, of course, will not accept anything like that as it is. ccn. . _|_ / | \ \_|_/ Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. NoackPhones: _|_ ___ Inst. f. Theoret. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 | | | \ Universitat Bremen secretary: -2422 |___| |___/ Kufsteiner Strasse Fax : -4869 | | | \ D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 | | |___/ Fax: 346 7872 PhyHBE-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] . ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music tsixteens.pmx
Re: [TeX-music] 3 voices in 1 staff
sometimes i use this: --- 4 4 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 5 20 0.03 bbtt ./ AI0 %\\let\nextinstrument\nextvoice\ %\\def\nbinstruments{1}\ %\\setstaffs12\ %\\setclef16\ \\setname1{ }\ \\setinterinstrument2{14\Interligne}\ X:0.5 c43 c c c X: / c42 c c c // c44 c c c / c44 c c c // c46 c c c / X:0.5 c45u cu cu cu X: / r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r // r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r // r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r / --- greetings Andre - Original Message - From: "nitadori" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:51 PM Subject: [TeX-music] 3 voices in 1 staff Hello. I need to typeset 3 voices in 1 staff and tried --- 4 -3 1 2 1 4 4 4 4 0 0 1 5 20 0.03 bbtt ./ \\let\nextinstrument\nextvoice\ \\def\nbinstruments{1}\ \\setstaffs12\ \\setclef16\ \\setname1{ }\ X:0.5 c43 c c c X: / c42 c c c // c44 c c c / c44 c c c // c46 c c c / X:0.5 c45u cu cu cu X: / r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r // r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r // r0 | r | r | r / r0 | r | r | r / --- But I get too small \interstaff . Does anyone know good solution or other way to typeset 3 voices without inline TeX? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keigo NITADORI ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sunsite.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music