RE: [TeX-music] dviconcat

2003-10-22 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
If you want to be sure if your version is working, you can do the following:

1. copy dviconcat.exe at the directory where the .dvi files reside
2. make a batch file with an editor (ie concat.bat) all in the same
directory, with the text:

dviconca -o outfile.dvi infile1.dvi infile2.dvi

make sure the extensions are present and that the filenames<=8chars

3. then doubleclick on concat.bat

Andre



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Onderwerp: Re: [TeX-music] dviconcat

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 4:11:18 PM, you wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

>> ... does anyone know where I could find a clean
>> copy?  Unfortunately the utility isn't part of MikTeX, and it seems to
>> be  very difficult to get hold of these things in DOS/Windows versions
>> on the Web...
>>

> Yes it is, and that's why I added my copies to our archive several years
> ago:

> http://icking-music-archive.org/software/musixtex/add-ons/dvitools.zip

Hmmm.  Thanks  --  it looks as though my executables in fact come from
this  archive,  as  they bear the same date and time stamp as those in
your  zip  file.  Unfortunately,  having  downloaded  a fresh copy and
placed  it  in my local binaries directory, I'm still getting the same
problems.

Interestingly  enough,  I  can't  seem  to get any usable results from
dvidvi either, whether I use the copies in the local binaries dir (and
yes,  this  *is* in my system path) or copy them to the directory with
the dvi files. 

Eva


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RE: [TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment

2003-10-21 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Hi Cornelius,

Thank you very much for helping. I tried Ap but now the 1st part of the
first slur looks odd, and the other ties/slurs are very small and thin,
including now the start of the second part. Perhaps it all depends on the
amount of notes on one line.

I was very happy with the Apl (for flattening the slurs) option which
probably can not switched off when used once.

But yes, sometimes Ap is better.

Andre

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Onderwerp: Re: [TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment

Hi Andre:
your workaround is, of course, fine, but: in a case like this, you
should NOT use Apl, but just Ap ! The README to PMX beta 2.411
explains this in detail. The effect is, to my taste, not sufficient,
but it's noticeable.

ccn.
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:

> This is perhaps not worth to mention it, but is it possible to have a
> default minimum length of the 1st segment of a broken postscript slur (as
it
> is at the start of the second segment)?
> (i can work around this problem by changing all the first of two 'st' by
> 'sts+0+1')
>
> This is an example (see last tie):
> =
> 1 1  2  4  0  0  0  0
> 1 420   .0
>
> t
> ./
> Apl
> w25m
> f85 f f f s f s f f f sts+0+1 f st f f f st f st f f f /
> =
>
> Thanks for helping
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RE: [TeX-music] dviconcat

2003-10-21 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In the canons, I used it as follow (you must have only 2 command lines here)
For the easiest way I copied dviconcat.exe between the .DVI files (perhaps
you can adapt the PATH in Dos also) and also the .bat file that has the
commands. The full bat file is at the Icking site


dviconca -o temp.dvi canonsfp.dvi canon1.dvi canon2.dvi canon3.dvi
canon4.dvi canon5.dvi 
dviconca -o canons.dvi temp.dvi canon6.dvi canon7.dvi canon8.dvi
canonick.dvi canonicl.dvi canonjl.dvi canontoc.dvi


Andre

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Onderwerp: [TeX-music] dviconcat

Dear friends,

some  time  ago,  someone  on  this  list  sent  me  the DOS binary of
dviconca.exe along with instructions for use to the following effect:

dviconca -o outputfile infile1 infile2 infile3

I've  been  trying this without useful results; all I get is DVI files
of  size 0 bytes, or an output file containing nothing but infile1, or
ten-megabyte  monstrosities  (from  two  20k  input  files)  which YAP
refuses to open. Can anyone tell me what's going wrong here?

TIA
Eva


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[TeX-music] pmx broken tie, end of 1st segment

2003-10-21 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
This is perhaps not worth to mention it, but is it possible to have a
default minimum length of the 1st segment of a broken postscript slur (as it
is at the start of the second segment)?
(i can work around this problem by changing all the first of two 'st' by
'sts+0+1')

This is an example (see last tie):
=
1 1  2  4  0  0  0  0
1 420   .0

t
./
Apl
w25m
f85 f f f s f s f f f sts+0+1 f st f f f st f st f f f /
=

Thanks for helping
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt

2003-10-09 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thanks to Cornelius C. Noack i could get this method to change the hight of
the instrument names:

% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
3   3   2  4  4   80  0
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
17 68 20
% no indent in the parts
%%
.07
%!0
%%
Cello
%1\raise+3ex \hbox{Cello}
%%
Viola
%2\raise+3ex \hbox{Viola}
Violino
b3t

Thank you very much

Andre
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Subject: [TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt


> Dear all,
>
> When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the
> upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola)
> collide with text above the staff.
> By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola'
> depends on the number of staffs.
>
> Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without
editing
> the output of scor2prt?
> I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file:
> ==
> ---
> \input musixtex
> ---
> % nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
> 1
> 1
> 2
> 4
> 4
> 8
>  0.00
> 0
> % npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
> 1
>15
>20
>  0.00
>
> 3
> ./
> Ti
> Viola
> Arbd
> Ae
> Apl
> AT
> % 1
> \zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\
> b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D<-1 | f4n s fs s D<-1 | f2n |
> f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D>+1 D>+1+5 /
> % 7
> rp
> | r8 f- Dp-0-1  s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 /
> rp
> | r8 f+ Dp-0-1  s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 /
> % 10
> L2
> g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st |
> fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< |
> d8si D< st e d4s st D> | d8si D> st e d4s st D< |
> dsi  st g ob D< g o> .gf Df st  /
> g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st |
> fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< |
> /
> ===
>
> Thanks for helping
> Andre
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[TeX-music] pmx - Altering the hight of 'Ti' data in scor2prt

2003-10-09 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Dear all,

When making a scor2prt out of a 3 staff piece, the the Violine part (the
upper) is perfect, but on the other two the intrumentnames (ie. Viola)
collide with text above the staff.
By experimenting on it i found that the hight above the staff of 'Viola'
depends on the number of staffs.

Here is my question: how can i put the word 'Viola' higher, without editing
the output of scor2prt?
I made a stripped version of a scor2prt file:
==
---
\input musixtex
---
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
1
1
2
4
4
8
 0.00
0
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
1
   15
   20
 0.00

3
./
Ti
Viola
Arbd
Ae
Apl
AT
% 1
\zchar{18}{\ppff I. Molto adagio espressivo}\
b23f Dp-0-1 of-1 | r4 a8+ s fs s D<-1 | f4n s fs s D<-1 | f2n |
f8s s f4n d8 s d2+ of D>+1 D>+1+5 /
% 7
rp
| r8 f- Dp-0-1  s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 /
rp
| r8 f+ Dp-0-1  s e4 s | d8s su a4s ,b s+4 /
% 10
L2
g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st |
fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< |
d8si D< st e d4s st D> | d8si D> st e d4s st D< |
dsi  st g ob D< g o> .gf Df st  /
g4n+ s .fs s+1 c s .b s | fs g st g st fs st |
fsi st .ds st D< | d8si D< D> st e d4s st D> D< |
/
===

Thanks for helping
Andre

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Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX

2003-09-08 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
sorry i forgot this definition:

\\let\endpiecesav\endpiece\
\\\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\

if not on the last page use eject in stead of endpiece

if musixtex:

\let\endpiecesav\endpiece\
\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\

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Re: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX

2003-09-08 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
The \def\text{... is between the --- in pmx

to be removed in musixtex, and \\ to replace by \

adapt the lenghts (17 cm and 8 cm <17/2 )

---
\def\text{%
\hbox to 17cm {\hsize=8cm\parindent=0em
\vtop{%
Since Coulonnus was an expert in ancient music he would have played
\par bars 120 and ff like this and blablabla:}
%\hfil
\vtop{%
Comme Coulonnus \'etait un expert en musique ancienne il aurait jou\'e
les mesures 120 et suivantes comme ceci et blablabla et en Francais
le texte est plus long et blablabla:}}}%
---

somewhere on the page:

\\def\endpiece{\let\endpiece\endpiecesav\endpiece\vskip5\Interligne\text}\vskip-5\Interligne\


Andre

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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: [TeX-music] Text in two columns in TeX


I wish to append some comments in two languages, two columns, at the end
of a MusiXTeX document.

I know how to do this in LaTeX (see the attached example), but AFAIK, you
have to "speak" TeX instead of LaTeX to add significant text to a MusiXTeX
file.

Does anybody know how to "translate" the attached LaTeX file into TeX ?

Regards,

Jean-Pierre Coulon E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Observatoire de la Côte d'Azur
Département FRESNEL, groupe ILGA
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Re: [TeX-music] Daniel Taupin

2003-09-07 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I want to participate in the grief in the passing away of Daniël Taupin.

I almost met Daniël at the TUG days in Holland, a few years ago. At last moment i was 
prevented, but
a colleague has met him there and reported me all details.

My first mail to Daniël was propably 10 years ago. I tought i found an error in 
musixtex.tex. I was
afraid to mentioned it and asked him how to solve a problem i had. I am sure everyone 
knows his
answer: "read the manual", what i did and it was all there. Anyway it helped me to 
understand
musixtex.
It happens i posed a problem and a few hours later i saw appear a new version of 
musixtex with the
adaptions. It was so fast, i doubted if it was a reaction on may mail or if it was a 
coincidence he
just did an update.

Daniël Taupin is one of the unbelievable smart minds in making a music typing programm 
dat handles
all exceptions. Even Donald E. Knuth honored him with a link to musixtex.

Andre Van Ryckeghem

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Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX

2003-08-26 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
but if you replace the flats by sharps and put the most left one to the right, it will 
collaps with
the upper one

Andre

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Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX


> Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
> > It is very easy to work with it because of the tweak possibilities.
> > I tried a sharp on the upper note of the last chord, with stem down. It collapsed 
> > a little bit
with
> > the b.
> > then i tweaked 3 accidentals.
> > This is the way it should go?
>
> well - not quite according to Gardner Read in his 'Music Notation' 2nd ed.,
> Boston 1969. On page 134 there is a series of examples on placement of
> accidentals in chords alonq with some comments on rules and guidelines for
> placement of accidentals. None of these examples, some of them being
> comparable to the below example, have the accidentals cascading leftwards
> from the top like in chord 2 and 3 below. Among the main principles is to
> have as few accidental 'columns' as possible.
>
> Generally I recommend Gardner Read's book (evaluated as _the_ standard in
> the Lilypond engraving bibliography). Unfortunately it is out of print and
> must be purchased second hand. I managed to do so a few months ago.

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Re: [TeX-music] Accidental bugfix in PMX

2003-08-26 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
It is very easy to work with it because of the tweak possibilities.
I tried a sharp on the upper note of the last chord, with stem down. It collapsed a 
little bit with
the b.
then i tweaked 3 accidentals.
This is the way it should go?

Andre


1 1 3 4 3 4 0 0
1 1 20 0

t
./
Abr
K-4+0
w3i
b43 zdf ze zgf zaf zb zdf
  df zef zgf zaf zbf zdf
  d-lfA<1 zef zgf zaf zbfA<.7 zdsA<.7 /
==


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Re: [TeX-music] PMX beta 2.412; PMX 2.411 for OSX; M-Tx beta 0.54c; Other changes

2003-08-16 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I redid "Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen (Heinrich van 
Herzogenberg)"
with the new Apl option.
It is amazing how easy it is to make the broken slurs with the right shape.

For most of the flatten slurs it is simpy "sf...sf" and if they collaps, using 
something as
"suf+7s+3s+2...s+7".

If i understand well the vertical offsets of the broken slurs are relative to the 
start of the slur
("suf+7s+3s+2" and not "suf+7s+10s+9").

Thank you very much Don for this amazing feature that fasten up a lot the typing of 
music.

Andre

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Re: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Must be tuned a bit
I suppose the short notes are no tuplets


2 2 4  4  4  4 0 -4
1 1 20 0


bt
./
Ab
Apl
\\setinterinstrument1{3\Interligne}\
c03l o> of+3 su+12+5 zc- | d+ s+28 //
rb8 [um3+1 c13 ds es f g as bs c ]j rb4 rb8 | 
r4+6  b43 zen e za- an ze+ /
rp+0 of | rbp //
rb4 rb4 rb8 [ju d1s es f g as bs ] | 
c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: /
===

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding


> Here is an another excerpt from the piano concerto in F of Gershwin. I coded 
> it using MusiXTeX and don't know if it is possible to get it with PMX.
> 
> Olivier
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Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
replace '*' by '$\sharp$'

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname


> Dear friends,
> 
> How  can  I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the "*"
> in the following extract?
> 
> 
> \input musixtex
> 
> \parindent 1.5 cm
> \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}%
> \startmuflex\startpiece
> \NOTes\wh p\en
> \endpiece\endmuflex
> \bye
> 
> (The  project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires
> that the third string be tuned to G#.)
> 
> Regards
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Re: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding

2003-08-14 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
It is coded in a nice way.
I have 2 questions and a remark:
- by rising the ful rest the formata becomes synchrone on the rest
- by allowing a slur to start on a rest, in many cases it would be easer to construct 
a slur that is
meant for the other voice (here it is done for the other staff and we are lucky that 
the horizontal
shft is only 6)
- i wonder why there are 3 beams on the lefthand staff. Should the code become this 
one?

==
2 1 4  4  4  4 0 -4
1 1 20 0

bt
./
w120m
Abrpl
\\font\sevenit=cmti7\
c03l o> of+3 shu+10+6 zc- | d+ s+22 Rb //
rb2 rb1 \settiny\ [u+1 c33 D"\sevenit R.H."+19+2 ds es f
D"\sevenit glissando"+22 g as bs c ]j rb8 rb1 |
r4+6  b43 zes e za- as ze+ /
rp+2 of | rbp //
rb2 rb4 rb1 \settiny\ [ju d3s es f g as bs ] |
c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: /
==
Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Difficult exercise of coding


> Thank you Andre for your proposition which constitute a good basis. Slighty
> reworking it, I can get an excellent result:
>
> 8<-
> 2 1 4  4  4  4 0 -4
> 1 1 20 0
>
> bt
> ./
> w120m
> Abrpl
> \\font\sevenit=cmti7\
> c03l o> of+3 shu+10+2.5 zc- | d+ s+22 Rb //
> rb8 \settiny\ [um3+1 c13 D"\sevenit R.H."+19+2 ds es f D"\sevenit
> glissando"+22 g as bs c ]j rb4 rb8 |
> r4+6  b43 zes e za- as ze+ /
> rp+2 of | rbp //
> rb4 rb4 rb8 \settiny\ [ju d1s es f g as bs ] |
> c85l c4l o_: cl cl c8l o: /
> 8<-
>
> The main difficulty is due to the grace notes. The idea is to insert the
> \settiny command to get small notes and it works pretty well. That's an
> interesting trick.
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname

2003-08-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
If you like other fonts, here is an example( [ = flat, ] = sharp):

\font\accid = cmmib10 scaled 1400
\input musixtex

\parindent 1.5 cm
\setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G\accid]}%
\startmuflex\startpiece
\NOTes\wh p\en
\endpiece\endmuflex
\bye

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Subject: [TeX-music] Sharp sign within \setname


> Dear friends,
> 
> How  can  I persuade MusixTeX to print a sharp sign instead of the "*"
> in the following extract?
> 
> 
> \input musixtex
> 
> \parindent 1.5 cm
> \setname1{\circleit{3}\kern 12pt = G *}%
> \startmuflex\startpiece
> \NOTes\wh p\en
> \endpiece\endmuflex
> \bye
> 
> (The  project is vihuela music transcribed for the guitar and requires
> that the third string be tuned to G#.)
> 
> Regards
> Eva
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur

2003-08-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
> I'm thinking seriously about handling this matter and others related to it
> within PMX, without requiring any new TeX coding.

This would be wonderful. I needed this very much in in the last piece of Herzogenberg 
(small
musicsize and many systems on 1 page}. Thanks to the help of members of the list, i 
could flatten
the 1st part, but only after the layout was made.
With the method Don proposed, it would go indeed magically.
I have read all the items, i understand them (i think) and i see no need to change 
anything.

'without requiring any new TeX coding': you mean musixps.tex (Stanislav Kneifl) 
included?

Thanks very much
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[TeX-music] Re: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip

2003-07-26 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Sorry, i was absent, i wanted to reach christian Mondrup

Andre

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From: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip


> title:  Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen
> music:  Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900)
> Claude de Sermisy 1529
> text:   geistlich Antwerpen 1540
>
> I hope there are few errors.
> Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the 
> hairpins were no
more
> broken.
>
> Andre
> (I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once)
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[TeX-music] upload new - Herzogenberg soll.zip

2003-07-26 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
title:  Soll ich denn auch des Todes Weg und finstre Strassen reisen
music:  Heinrich van Herzogenberg, (1843-1900)
Claude de Sermisy 1529
text:   geistlich Antwerpen 1540

I hope there are few errors.
Here i had problems with flat broken slurs. I tried musixpss.tex, but then the 
hairpins were no more
broken.

Andre
(I often think on our meeting in july, i hope we can do this again once)

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[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur (again)

2003-07-24 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Hello,

When using lyrics and 'sf', and placing many systems on 1 page it would be nice to 
flatten the 1st
part of a broken slur.
I searched pmx.tex, musixps.tex and musixtex.tex for a parameter that does the job, 
but i did not
found how the end point of the first slur is defined.

This example is better than my previous one, because here i have to find only the last 
bar on the
first line of the broken slur. This is not hard if the layout of the piece is made 
already.

But still it is a clumsy one, it would be so nice if it could happen automatically 
(magically).


---
%first part flattend breakslur -
%must be in the last bar of the line%
%
\def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\gdef\atnextbar{%
\znotes\loff{\psforts1\tslur#1{#2}}\en}\bsk%
\gdef\atnextline{\znotes\ifnum#2>3% slur up
\isu#1{#2}{4}\else\isd#1{#2}{4}\fi\en}}%

---
11   4  4   0  6   0  2
1  10 16   0

t
./
Ap
%\\input musixpss.tex\relax\
w50m h200m
% pmx break: 1st part to high if using lyrics in staff above
a44 suf+5 b d c  f g f g sf /
% musixtex break: better but not sufficient
a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{9}\ c  f g f g sf /
% using \psforts1 in first part also
a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c  f g f g sf /
% defining the break end by \atnextbar
a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{8}\ c8 c  f4 g f g sf /
% slur down
a44 s-2 b d c8 \mybreakslur0{-1}\ c  f4 g f g sf-6 /
=

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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur

2003-07-19 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thanks for your reaction.

> If you think about it a bit, there is no way for the line breaking 
> algorithm to know which shape should be used for the first part of the 
> slur. The shape is defined when closing the slur.
> 
> Therefore, the only (a bit dirty) solution is to break the slur manually 
> - close it just before the fixed line break and open another one at the 
> beginning of the next line.

I guess \breakslur creates an endslur, so this one could be flattend?

I tried in line TeX, i found that the pmx-slur is highest,
the in line breakslur a little lower and the breakslur with the 'sf' feature is the 
lowest
(in the 3th case the slur must be restarted):


---
\def\mybreakslur#1#2{\sk\loff{\psforts1\tslur0g}\bsk}%
---
11   4  4   0  6   0  2
1  6 16   0
 
t
./
Ap
%\\input musixpss.tex\relax\ 
w150
a44 suf+5 b d c  f g f g sf /
a44 suf+5 b d \breakslur0{10}\ c  f g f g sf /
a44 su+5 b d \mybreakslur0{10}\ c 
\isu0{9}{-2}\  f g f g sf /



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[TeX-music] pmx - Flatten the first part of a continuation slur

2003-07-17 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
When making slurs on linebreaks (system breaks?) with ssf, then only the second 
part (on the
next line is flattened.
What could i do to flatten also the first part.

This is an example to show it:
=
11   4  4   0  6   0  2
1  2 16   0

t
./
Ap
%\\input musixpss.tex\relax\
w150
a44 su+5 b d c  f g f g sf /
=
The result is on:
http://users.pandora.be/avr/contslur.pdf

I made also an example with musixpss (The 'sf' is replaced here by 's'):
http://users.pandora.be/avr/contpssslur.pdf

Thanks in advance for helping me

Andre

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Re: [TeX-music] musixlyr and lyrstrutbox

2003-06-21 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
The min distance can be calculated by \vphantom{!y}, filled with the highest en the 
lowest chars.
Below that, the lines will zigzag.

Andre
---
\input musixtex
\input musixlyr
\setlyrics{v1}{%
Ho-ly God,_ we praise_ thy name!}
\setlyrics{v2}{%
Hark! the loud_ ce-les_-tial hymn}
\setlyrics{v3}{%
Ho-ly Fa_-ther, Ho_-ly Son,}
---
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnmp,mtrdnp,xmtrnum0,isig,
   11  3   4   3   4 0  -1
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
   1   1   16   0

t
./

w5i
\\staffbotmarg=53pt\
\\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vrule height 8pt width 0pt}\
\\\setbox\lyrstrutbox=\hbox{\vphantom{yM!}}\
\\\atnextbar{\lyrraise{1}{b27pt}}\
\\\assignlyrics{1}{v1,v2,v3}\
f2 f4 /

( f4 e ) f /

( g4 a ) g /

f2d /


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[TeX-music] pmx - rising duo's

2003-06-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Is it possible with a rising duo to have the bracket and the number closer by each 
other?

===
 1   1   6  8  6   80  0
1 1 20 0

t
./
w260
g45dx2 a dd / 
g4-dx2n-1 af dd / 
g4-dx2n-1 ff dd / 
==

Thanks for looking at it
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Re: [TeX-music] How to setup the with of only one line?

2003-06-04 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I don't know if this works all the time but this one may help:
(attention the lines may be broken by the email)

--
1 1  5  4  0  0  0  0
1 320   .0
 
t
./
w100m
g44 .a [ g8 f ] [ e d ] e4 /

b4+ [ b8 g ] [ a a ] [ g a ] b4 /
\\let\myalaligne\alaligne\
\\\def\alaligne{\let\alaligne\myalaligne\Stoppiece 
\advance\hsize-20mm\relax\contpiece}\
L3M
b4 [ a8 s b s ] [ g f ] [ e d ] e4 /
--

Andre

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Re: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b

2003-05-30 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I have a problem with the new version: the melismas don't take account of the left 
margin as
you can see in this example:
http://users.pandora.be/avr/testmelisma.ps
I tried this example with a previous version without problems

Andre
A heavy user of this wonderful addition of musixtex

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From: "Rainer Dunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 5:04 PM
Subject: [TeX-music] New musixlyr version 2.1b


> Hello all,
> 
> the new version 2.1b of musixlyr is now available from the Icking
> Archive software page,
> http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html.
> 
> The one-and-only new feature is the correction of a bug recently
> reported by Simon Dreher: At line beginnings, lyrics have been
> horizontally misaligned sometimes; they've appeared a bit right-shifted
> out of their default position, centered around the notehead. Now they
> are centered, no matter how far they extend into the leftward "header"
> space of the staff.
> 
> Those of you who have never suffered from this problem don't need to
> use this version.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
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Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx

2003-04-02 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Again, i am astonished how fast and efficient this problem is solved by Don.

I used it in an SATB (with Solo's) piece of 250 bars. I had no trouble to switch back 
the clef,
probably because i use a lot of  
\\\resetclefsymbols\  and   \\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
commands by changing the number of staffs.

Thanks again
Andre
 

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Re: [TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx

2003-04-02 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thank you very much for helping.

But in my example, with
\\\settrebleclefsymbol{2}\treblelowoct\
or
\\\setclefsymbol2\treblelowoct\

the tenor clef is nice at the beginning of a system, but not in the middle of it (by 
using Ct in
pmx)

I tried musixtex (\setclef2\treble), but then the the notes are 2 octaves higher than 
in pmx

Of course, i can put an '8' everywhere with a D"8" command, but i like to know if the 
clefsymbol can
be redefined for 'Ct'

Thanks again
Andre
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[TeX-music] changing clef from bass to tenor in pmx

2003-04-02 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I want to have an '8' under the treble clef in mesure 7.

Thanks in advance for helping

Andre

===
22   3  4  3  4   0  -5
13 16   .02
B.C.
B.
bb
./
a4 a g | a a2 | g,g | e4 gs.gsi 
| a.gs f | g a2  /
a2 D"B. Solo"+17 ,a | r4 f.f 
| g2,g | r4 gs gsi | a.gn f | g a2 /
%7
\\\setclefsymbol2\treblelowoct\
d4- d b /
d4- Ct b++ D"T. Solo"+18 .d /
%8
f4+ r f- | b r r | f+ r f  b- c c- 
| f f+ gs | a2sd /
c4.d f1 s e s d s c s | 
d8 s .c s b4 b8.d | c4.b a | 
d8 s .b s a1 s1 gs a gsi st g4 st s1 
| f4 r r | r f+.c /
==

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[TeX-music] pmx - midi, repeats and sharps

2003-03-07 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In this example, in the last line of code the e sounds as an e sharp (mesure 3 and 5)

when i replace the lines
e4 r r /
by
e4ni r r /
then the midi sound as it should

Even on the repeat, when the midi jumps from m. 1 to 3 it sounds as e-sharp.

Of course it is easy to correct, but perhaps it is related with the slur-and-midi 
problem.

Thanks for looking at it
Andre

===
2   13 4  3  4  0  4
1  1   20  .05

bt
./
It126i1:1
%1
IMR2
b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f /
Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes 
d8 zf r1+2 en zg d4 zf /
IM
%2
V1
e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl /
e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es  ] /
%
IMP2
%3
Vb2 Rr  
e4+ zg e8- r r4 /
%this e4 sounds as an e-sharp:
e4 r r /
%4
e44 zg e8- o. r r4 Rl /
e4dd sH [ d1 s e8 o. r1+4 es  ] /
%5
e4+ zg e8- r r4 /
%this e4 also sounds as an e-sharp:
e4 r r /
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces

2003-03-06 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
> I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i 
> believe it is
> possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but
>
> all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two 
> upper voices
are
> shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin).
>
>
When changing from 2 to 4 instruments, if i do in pmx a

\\\spread{-30}\

on the last system with 2 instruments, then the spacing is nice and equal over all 
systems. The
larger the number (i toke 30) the better.

It is not necessary to edit the TeX source.

I do not know why this happens


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[TeX-music] pmx - midi repeat and slur

2003-03-06 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
This is an extract from a sheet to demonstrate a strange (psychotic?) behaviour of the 
midi output.

If removing the last slur, then all goes well.

I do not know how to get this right

Andre

===
2   13 4  3  4  0  4
1  1   20  .05

bt
./
It126i1:1
IMR2
b83 zd f f- f+ b- zd f /
Gxug d84 zf r1+2 cs zes 
d8 zf s r1+2 en zg s d4 zf /
IM
%
e44 zg e8- r r4 Rr /
e4dd d1 e8 r1+4 es s /
IMP2
%
e4+ zg e8- r r r /
e4 s r r /
%


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Re: [TeX-music] Reducing number of instruments within a movement

2003-03-05 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
> However, musixlyr wants to attach the second system's words to the
> lower voice of the Soprano staff, which is all blank whole-measure
> rests.  I can switch the notes of the Soprano's top voice with the
> rests of its lower voice, but I am wondering if there is another way to
> communicate to musixlyr that it should use the top voice of the Soprano
> staff to attach lyrics.  file3.pmx contains all these changes.  I have
> tried cancelling the lyric with \\\assignlyrics{3}{}\ before assigning
> it again with \\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\ but this has not worked.

\\\assignlyrics{2}{verse1a}\lyrmodealter2\

should do it

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[TeX-music] pmx - augmenting the number of instruments - equal spaces

2003-03-03 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I tried the solution of Rainer Dunker for getting equal space between the systems, i 
believe it is
possible to put it in a command with tex substitutions, but

all goes well except, when changing from 2 to 4 instruments, the lyrics of the two 
upper voices are
shifted to the right of the staff (they comes in the right margin).

Is it possible to fix that?

Thanks
Andre

This is the proposed solution in the by pmx produced tex file (the changed lines are 
marked
with --):

% Bar count 5
\alaligne
\pnotes{2.83}\ql{''C}\ql D\ql E\ql F&\qu c\qu d\qu e\qu f\en%
\newmovement00% -
\stoppiece%--
\instrumentnumber4%-
%\newnoi{4}%---
\setstaffs11%
\setclef16%
\setstaffs21%
\setclef20%
\setstaffs31%
\setclef30%
\setstaffs41%
\setclef40%
\setname1{Continuo}%
\setname2{Sporano}%
\setname3{Violino 2}%
\setname4{Violino 1}%
\akkoladen{{1}{1}{3}{4}}%
% Bar 1-2
% Bar count 6
%\newmovement00%---
%\stoppiece%


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Re: [TeX-music] Names on every system?

2003-03-01 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Werner Icking has made such a thing for 'Ave Verum' (Mozart)

this is the command:

---
\def\namsp{12mm}%
\let\ni\nextinstrument%
\let\ns\nextstaff%
\makeatletter%
\newif\ifstaffseparator\staffseparatortrue%
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\zcharnote0{\vbox{\hbox{Cb.}\hbox{Org.}}}\ni%
\zcharnote2{Viola}\ni%
\zcharnote2{Vl.II}\ns\zcharnote4{Vl.I}\ni%
\zcharnote0{Bass}\ni%
\zcharnote2{Tenor}\ni%
\zcharnote2{Alto}\ni%
\zcharnote2{Sop.}%
%\ifstaffseparator\zcharnote{20}{\vbox{\hbox to 8mm{\leaders\hrule height 
3pt\hfill}%
%   \vskip-7pt\hbox to 8mm{\leaders\hrule height 3pt\hfill}}}%
%\else\staffseparatortrue\fi
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---

this is a pmx-instrument name (above the clefs definition)

\kern -\namsp Bass

this is making place for the instruments on every staff

\\advance\hsize-\namsp\


The example is on

http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/ByComposer/Mozart.html

a.. Ave verumfor SATB choir, strings and organ (KV618) - edited by André Van 
Ryckeghem; with
PMX-source


Andre


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Re: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest

2003-02-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thanks and sorry, i was to fast to ask,  i have seen it now in the reference card.I 
was misleaded by
the difference  in the 1st and 3th bar

Andre

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From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: [TeX-music] RE: centered quarter rest


> Neither. RTFM! "ro" suppresses centering a full-bar rest. By the way, the
> PMX manual and reference card in PDF format are searchable.
>
> --Don Simons
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Andre Van Ryckeghem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:04 PM
> > To: Don Simons; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: centered quarter rest
> >
> >
> > After using
> >
> > m/1/4/0/0
> >
> > a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is
> > centered in stead of.
> >
> > Is this a feature or an error?
> >
> > Thanks for helping
> >
> > Andre
> >
> > ==
> > 21   4  4  0  6  1   -2
> > 1  1   16  .09
> > Keyboard
> > bt
> > ./
> > r4 //
> > e43 /
> > r4-8 //
> > g44 /
> > %
> > rp /
> > rp /
> > m1/4/0/0
> > r4 //
> > e43 /
> > r4-8 //
> > g44 /
> > %
> > m4400
> > rp | r2 r4 g //
> > e4 c g af | af g b b /
> > r4-8 e e.e | d e d es //
> > g4.af b c | c.b f g /
> > ===
> >
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[TeX-music] centered quarter rest

2003-02-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
After using

m/1/4/0/0

a rest is no more positioned under a quarter note, he (she?) is centered in stead of.

Is this a feature or an error?

Thanks for helping

Andre

==
21   4  4  0  6  1   -2
1  1   16  .09
Keyboard
bt
./
r4 //
e43 /
r4-8 //
g44 /
%
rp /
rp /
m1/4/0/0
r4 //
e43 /
r4-8 //
g44 /
%
m4400
rp | r2 r4 g //
e4 c g af | af g b b /
r4-8 e e.e | d e d es //
g4.af b c | c.b f g /
===

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Re: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx

2003-02-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thank you very much Don, You made it clear and very simple, It is perfect for my needs

Andre
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From: "Don Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: [TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx


> Is this what you want?
> 
> 
> 21   4  4  0  6  0   -3
> 1  1   16  .09
> Keyboard
> bt
> ./
> c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za //
> f0- /
> a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc /
> %
> %Cb c2-- zc- rb //
> %rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze /
> Cb rb4 Ct c44u ze eu za eu za //
> c23l zc- rb2 / 
> e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc /
> =
> 
> 

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[TeX-music] changeclefs problem in pmx

2003-02-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I am trying to change the clefs in a staff with two voices. The best i can do is the 
following
example. I want to use \setclefs from Musixtex, but propably it is redefined in pmx.

the result is: overfull boxes and a to high sharp clef

Thanks for your help

Andre

===
21   4  4  0  6  0   -3
1  1   16  .09
Keyboard
bt
./
c44u ze Ct eu za au zc eu- za //
f0- /
a4 zc ze za c- ze za zc e- za zc ze c- ze za zc /
%
Cb c2-- zc- rb //
rb4 \bsk\bsk\bsk\setclef1\treble\zchangeclefs\ e4- zg g zc g ze /
e4- zg zc ze e- zg zc g zc ze e- zg zc /
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Re: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas

2003-01-31 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
i tried this, it seems all to be normal


1  13 4  0   0   0  0
1   2  20  .04

t
./
a44 c e s s1 | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s1 b c Rl | Vx a b c /
a44 c e s | V1 a s b c Rr | Vb2 a s+0-6 s b c Rl | Vx a b c /
=

Andre

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From: "Michael Brinkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:40 AM
Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: slurs ending in voltas


> Hi,
> 
> I tried to typeset a score with PMX, which has a slur
> beginning before two voltas and ending in _both_ of them,
> but I had no success. The second closing of the slur
> opens up a new one instead.
> 
> The PMX-code looks like this:
> 
> a c (1 e | V1 a )1 b c Rr | Vb2 a )1 b c Rl | Vx a b c /
> 
> I tried the 's'-symbol for slurs, too (same effect)
> 
> This feature seems not to be implemented yet, am I right?
> Is there any chance for me to get the desired behaviour?
> 
> kind regards
> Michael 
> 
> PS: 
> the MIDI-file generation algo doesn't cope with the
> voltas, too (IMO)
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Re: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement

2003-01-29 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In this example, i think you must choose a white space and let Ae spread the system on 
the rest of
the page ( i toke 40\Interligne)


\\let\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\
\\def\Endpiece{\let\Endpiece\Endpiecesav\Endpiece\vskip40\Interligne}\

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] PMX: Blank space below a movement


Hello,

I want to fill the space on a page below the systems of the last movement
within a score with blank space. I use Ae for the whole score. Any Solution
for this?

-- Hermann



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Re: [TeX-music] PMX horizontal spacing problem

2003-01-26 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
you must execute 2 tex passes, this is an exmple of a batch fil for doing so:

pmx:

echo %1 | pmxab
C:\"Program Files"\WinEdt\Bin\TeX\mupsview.BAT %1

and mupsview.bat is: 

if exist %1.mx1 del %1.mx1
if exist %1.mx2 del %1.mx2
C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\TEX.EXE %1.tex %2
if errorlevel 1 goto end
C:\musixtex\musixflx %1
if errorlevel 1 goto end
C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\TEX.EXE %1.tex %2
C:\TEXMF\MIKTEX\BIN\DVIPS.EXE -e0 -P pdf -G0 %1.dvi
C:\ghostgum\gsview\gsview32.exe %1.ps
:end

attention, the mail can break the lines


Andre


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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: [TeX-music] PMX horizontal spacing problem


> Hello,
> 
> I'm new to MusiXTeX and PMX, so forgive me if this question has been
> answered before.
> 
> I'm using MiKTeX 2.2 on a Windows XP Professional machine.  I installed the
> musixtex and musixps packages via MiKTeX Package Manager today, and it seems
> to work fine.  Then I got PMX 2.40 (Windows binary) from
> http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html.  I tried the
> barsant.pmx example coming with it.  All steps finished without an error,
> but in the result .dvi, the notes all overlap together -- the horizontal
> space between the notes is way too small.  I don't see this problem if I
> create a .tex file using musixtex directly, so I assume the problem is
> within PMX.  Anyone has any clue?  Thanks!
> 
> FYI, I was able to get more reasonable horizontal spacing between notes by
> adding this line to the .tex file generated by pmxab, immediately after the
> '\input pmx' line:
> 
>   \def\pnotes#1{\vnotes30\elemskip}
> 
> However, the space between a bar and the following note is still too small.
> Any help is appreciated!
> 
> - Zhanyong Wan
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Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx

2003-01-23 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I was curious how pmx could help, even for raw musixtex code.
So i compared the pmx code with the others. I made a pmx file and used the 
intermediaire tex-code.
This is the result with, if i am right, the right spacing:

pmx:

==
1  13 8  0   0   0  0
1   1  20  .04

t
./
[u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] |
[u-16+5 b ds--- s e s ][ b+ d g ] /
===

and the (working) musixtex file with the original problem, the file of Jean-Pierre 
Coulon en the tex
code produced by pmx(perhaps the lines could be broken because of the mail format):

===
\input musixtex
\instrumentnumber1
\bigaccid\startmuflex\startpiece\systemnumbers%
%
% Evita's problem
%
\notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0%
\qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en%
\notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p%
\hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0%
\qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en\bar%
%
% solution by pmx
%
\notes\ibbu1{'a}1\bigna b\qb1b\bigsh{`f}\qb1f\tbbu1\qb1g%
\nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1e\tbu1\qb1g\en%
%
\notes\loff{\ibbu1{`e}5}\qb1{'''b}\islurd0{```d}\bigsh d\qb1d%
\tslur0e\tbbu1\qb1e\nbbu1\qb1{'b}\qb1d\tbu1\qb1g\en%
%
% solution by Jean-Pierre Coulon
%
\notes\ibbu0L6\roff{\qb0p}%
\hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0%
\qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en
%
\Stoppiece\eject\bye
==

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[TeX-music] problem with magnified circle

2003-01-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In the music sheet Melodie in F-dur (Anton Rubensten) on the Icking site, for 
installing the
accordion registers, i used the \circ command (char 13 in cmsy font):

\font\cmsy = cmsy10 scaled 2400\chardef\ci=13  --> \csmy\ci

in pdf it looks nearly allright on the screen, but when i print it, it becomes an 
vertical ellips,
should this be me, using the wrong fonts?

in dvi i think it is alright

Andre
(perhaps the accordion symbols exists and i am doing to much work)

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Re: [TeX-music] PMX/MusixTeX with pdftex

2003-01-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
My acrobat reader is 5.0.0. If i see the slurs in the ps file (gsview) and then make a 
ps2pdf (the
script), then on the screen, it happens that some slurs dissapear, but when i print 
the sheet (HP
MP5), the they are present.

As an example the sheet 'Kerstgloria' (Ludo Claesen) on the Icking site:
on the preview i can see the slur above the last system of the 1st page
De .pdf file does not show that slur on the screen in acrobat, but when i print it, it 
is there.

Andre



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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [TeX-music] PMX/MusixTeX with pdftex


> Michael Brinkmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote Saturday,
> January 18, 2003 11:44 AM:
>
> > However, if I use "pdftex" together with pmx instead of plain tex, the
> > slur in the first line of code is not displayed in the PDF-viewer.
>
> Not only in pdftex, but also with dvipdfm the slur does not show up in
> Acrobat 5.x.
>
> > May this be a bug in the ps-fonts of musixtex?
>
> No, it is a bug in Acrobat Reader 5.x: it does not display slurs that
> are horizontal, i.e., that start and end on the same note height. I
> suspect that this is caused by an "optimization" in Acrobat Reader:
> "characters with height 0 don't display". The slurs show up correctly
> when viewed with Ghostscript and in Acrobat Reader 4.x, which can be
> obtained from the Icking Archive, as indicated on the "Introduction"
> page.
>
> HTH,
> Arjen
>
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam -pmx

2003-01-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
This is how i do it in pmx 

=
1  13 8  0   0   0  0
1   1  20  .04

t
./
[u b14n fs g ][ b e g ] | 
[u-10h b ds-- e ][ b d g ] /
===


Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Grouping notes within the same beam


Dear friends,

I'm trying to typeset a semiquaver sextuplet figure in two groups of
three notes, with the lower of the two beams interrupted between note
stems three and four.

This is no problem in the case of a straightforward upper or lower
beam, as in the following:

\startextract
\notes\Ibbu0hn6\qb0{=i}\hqsk\qb0{^f}\tbbu0%
\qb0g\nbbu0\qb0i\qb0l\tqh0n\en
\endextract

However, when the beam starts out as a lower beam and terminates as an
upper beam, the results are unfortunate:

\startextract
\notes\ibbl0l6\qb0p%
\hqsk\islurd1K\qb0{^K}\tslur1L\tbbu0\qb0L\nbbu0%
\qb0b\qb0d\tqh0g\en
\endextract

Can anyone suggest a workaround that forces the *lower* of the two
beams to be interrupted in this example?

Thanks in advance
Eva

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Re: [TeX-music] dotted barline

2003-01-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Christian Mondrup told me to use pstricks for special lines (if using postscript):

\input pstricks
\def\PSL#1#2#3{\pslinewidth.3pt\psset{xunit=1\noteskip,yunit=1\Interligne}%\
\zchar{#3}{~~~\psline[linestyle=dashed](#1,#2)}}\

and then at a staff:
\PSL{0}{4}{0}   % horizontal distance, vertical distance, higth on the staff
(or \PSL040)

Of course one has yo play a litlle wth ie the tildes ~~~ and so on

there is an example of such lines (pmx) in kinderstucke 1 (Mendelsohn) at the Icking 
site

Andre

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Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: [TeX-music] dotted barline


> Hello all,
> 
> This is a relay of a question from a MusiXTeX user in Japan.
> 
> > I want to write "dotted barline" for supplementary sectioning 
> > in the bar.
> > Is such command implemented in MusiXTeX?
> 
> Does anyone know?
> 
> Certainly I had seen dotted barline in a score too; 
> But I can't remember what was it.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Hiroaki MORIMOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX

2003-01-07 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In my system the arpeggio's have more than 1 name. I have to check the tex source to 
be sure. This
is an example of i (the first is 'raisearp' the second is 'arpeggio').
=
2 1 4 4 0 6 0 0
0 4 20 0.07

bt
./
\\let\rap\arpeggio\let\arp\raisearp\
a23 ? zc r2 | d2f<.4 zg-f ? c4 b /
\def\raisearp#1#2{\loffset{.8}{\arp{#1}{#2}}\let\raisearp\arp}\
e24 zfs za ? r2 |
\def\arpeggio#1#2{\loffset{1}{\rap{#1}{#2}}\let\arpeggio\rap}\
b4+ ? a8 b g4f a8 b /
===

Andre

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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:03 AM
Subject: RE: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX


> Michael--
>
> I tried Olivier's solution (Thanks, Olivier!) and it worked fine for me. I
> don't think your software versions are a problem, although MikTeX is up to
> 2.2 now I think. Did you cut and paste Olivier's example exactly as he
> posted it?  If so, then I suggest you post the resulting TeX to the list. If
> not, I suggest you do, then report back.
>
> One thing you might check is whether you have an obsolete pmx.tex somewhere
> in your search path (tho I don't know exactly how that could cause your
> problem).
>
> --Don Simons
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Michael Brinkmann
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:09 AM
> > To: 'Olivier Vogel'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [TeX-music] AW: Arpeggios in PMX/MusiXTeX
> >
> >
> > Hello Olivier,
> >
> > > In such cases, it suffices to redefine locally the macro you
> > > want to modify
> > > (here \raisearp). If you combine this macro with \loffset,
> > > you can move the
> > > arpeggio to the left. Here is your example corrected:
> > > [...]
> >
> > many thanks for your info. I tried it out, but it didn't
> > change anything in the look of the dvi-output.
> >
> > I am using MikTeX 1.20e, MusixTeX 108 and PMX 240.
> > Do I have to update any of these?
> >
> > kind regards
> > Michael
> >
> >
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Re: [TeX-music] musixpss ver.0.50 is now available

2003-01-06 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

> Comments, suggestions, bug reports, etc. are welcome.
> Best regards,

 It feels as i am getting new jear's gifts, the new updatings of musixtex and musixpss.

They all work very well.

I am curriuos about the following:

I did some tests about musixpss. I compiled 'Die beste Zeit' on the standard way as 
explained in the
html file:
The file diebeste.ps (made with dvips) is 102Kb.
diebeste.pdf (made by dvipdf) is 70 Kb (this one is on the Icking site)
diebeste.pdf (made by pspdf) is 39 Kb

I used also the second method (omitting the last TeX pass):
The file diebeste.ps (made with dvips) is 102Kb.
diebeste.pdf (made by dvipdf) has nos slurs, off course
diebeste.pdf (made by pspdf) is 39 Kb

My question is: why is the dvipdf made file larger than the pspdf made file ?

Thanks for reading all this

Andre


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[TeX-music] did not know Finale was for free

2003-01-06 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I bought it because it could make notes from midi (it did so, but i could do nothing 
with the midi
but listening to it).
I could not manage to have a page layout, it went all on 1 line.
I could not make an upbeat on the 1st mesure.
It was tedious to place text on the notes.
The only thing i could do was running the examples (in Musixtex, if i can run the 
examples, i know
enough to start edit the music).

I got help by a friend, but he found a nice pagelayout not important and so on.

I did not much effort to learn it, because the output is inferior to Musixtex.

I see music sheets made by Finale  with only 1 musicline on the last page, with no 
slurs on the
notes and so on and if there are errors on it (this one is no exclusivity for Finale 
users) they
usually are corrected with a pencil.

Andre
But i realise there are mouse minded (and younger?) people who prefer wisywig editors.


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests


On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:03:27 +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Andre
>(who did not know Finale was for free.
>
I believe there is a scaled-down variant (with seriously limited
functionality) that one can download for nothing. The full version
still costs a mint, though.

>I bought it once and could not work with it)

I'm with you, Andre. I tried Finale once and hated it. Half of the
gradient of the learning curve involved in mastering it seemed to
result from the programmers' insistence on flouting every single
Windows convention they could find (like which functions to put in
which menu, like allowing one to delete things by selecting with the
mouse and hitting the "Delete" key) and on burying basic, frequently
needed functions five levels deep in the menu hierarchy and making the
user wade through reams of PDF documentation to find out where exactly
they'd put them.

I took one look and decided that if I was going to be facing a steep
learning curve anyway, I'd just as soon have a learning curve that
wasn't 50% due to poor design, and I'd just as soon not pay for the
privilege! The rest, more or less, is history...

Eva

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Re: [TeX-music] I want your tests

2003-01-04 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I compiled a number of large (pmx)files. I saw nothing wrong

This is my system:
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (MiKTeX 2.1) (preloaded format=plain 2002.12.28)  5 JAN 
2003 07:52
MusiXTeX(c) T.111 <3 Jan. 2003>
on WindowsXP and Winedt

And thanks for the beautiful program

Andre
(who did not know Finale was for free. I bought it once and could not work with it)

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Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: [TeX-music] I want your tests


> Hello:
>   Appended if my proposal for a further version of musixtex.tex.
> Before posting it officially, I would like to as to all of you to test
> it, in place of the T109 ot T110 versions you may have. Some command
> structures have been changes and it does not fail in some of my
> examples, but other tests would be welcome.
> 
>   Note that this includes musixbm features, so that inclusion of musixbm
> of NOT useful, and even not recommended.
> 
>   It should be especially tested with HUGE tests, in order to check that
> it does not cause errors du to number of registers exhausted. But also
> with weird musics, under LaTeX.
> 
>  ---> Hope to get positive or failing answers. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
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Re: [TeX-music] typesetting accordion music

2002-12-25 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I am interested also. Do you mean the notes or the names of the chords?
I did some accordion in pmx (Dance at the Moskawa, Sternpolka, Wien du Stadt.., Susser 
die
Glocken... in the Icking site), i used musixlyr or/and the D-command and a few macros. 
ie:
\def\CH#1#2{~~\lower3pt\vbox{\hbox{#1}\vskip2pt\hbox{\hskip1pt #2}}}
to stack the name of the bassnote and the name of the rest of the chord.

Andre
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Subject: [TeX-music] typesetting accordion music


Hello,

I want to typeset accordion music.

Does anyone know an easy way or some macro for the bass-notation?
A merry Christmas and a happy New Year!

Norbert

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Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem

2002-12-19 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
For some obscure reason, i was using one old version of musixlyr (MusiXLYRics 2.0a 

To: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem


> Hello Andre,
>
> hmm - I can't reproduce your problem. The only difference between with
> and without \lyrmodealter is that the lyrics are synchronized either
> with the soprano or with the alto voice.
>
> I'll attach here my DVI output and the .tex and .log files so that you
> can compare software versions and possible other differences, in order
> to analyze what goes wrong.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rainer
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:58:00AM +0100, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
> > In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the 
>line (by removing
> > '\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal).
> > Am i doing something wrong?
> >
> > ==
> > ---
> > \input musixtex
> > \input pmx
> > \input musixlyr
> > \input musixcho
> > %
> > \setlyrics{refrein}%
> > {Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd
> > staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid
> > en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed
> > 't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed.
> > }
> > \lyrmodealter2
> > \assignlyrics2{refrein}
> > ---
> > 2  2   4   4   0   6   1  0
> > 1  2 20  .0
> >
> >
> > bt
> > ./
> > w100m
> > e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r //
> > e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r /
> > e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 //
> > e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c /
> > 
> >
> > Thanks fot helping
> >
> > Andre
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[TeX-music] pmx and \lyrmodealter - problem

2002-12-18 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In this example the second lyrics line does not return to the beginning of the line 
(by removing
'\lyrmodealter2' the output looks normal).
Am i doing something wrong?

==
---
\input musixtex
\input pmx
\input musixlyr
\input musixcho
%
\setlyrics{refrein}%
{Sterk in wil-le ge-drild tot strijd
staan wij tucht-vol in dienst-baar-heid
en wij zin-gen met blij ge-moed
't~lied der red-ders in te-gen-spoed.
}
\lyrmodealter2
\assignlyrics2{refrein}
---
2  2   4   4   0   6   1  0
1  2 20  .0


bt
./
w100m
e83.g | c2- e4 f | c0 | e2 g4 gs | a2 r //
e83.g | e2+ e4 c | c4 c8.c b4 a | g4 a b2 | c r /
e84.g | g2 g4 f | e2 r | e d |c4 c8.d e2 //
e84.g | c4 c8.c b4 a | g r r g8.a | b4 b8.a g4 f | e r r g8.c /


Thanks fot helping

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Re: [TeX-music] pmx: big and small accidentals

2002-11-25 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thank you very much everyone for reacting and helping on this.

> It has occurred to me from time to time that a default-override file might
> be useful. There are a few drawbacks, though. Now, the output from a given
> pmx file depends *only* on the binary, and that's a very good thing. Among
> other advantages, that makes problem-solving via the list a whole lot
> easier. Anyone with the same binary will get the same tex file. Yes, it's
> true that the dvi file will depend on pmx.tex, and by the way have you
> noticed how many times over the years a stray, outdated pmx.tex has caused
> problems?  pmx.tex is a necessary evil, but it seems to me that maintaining
> the status quo is the best course in this area, rather than introducing
> another kind of local installation dependence, and one that's not really
> necessary.
>
I am happy with the current method. I feel more for an option that can read a (named) 
pmx input
file. This file could be used also as an extension for (large) macros.

Andre



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[TeX-music] pmx: big and small accidentals

2002-11-25 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In the Stehle mass, in the credo, Christian mondrup mentioned me (among many other 
errors) an odd
sound by prolongation notes. I think the reason of this is that there are to few ties 
to connect and
some notes sounds twice. So, nothing is to change.
(the ties/slurs are not connected on all the notes, because on an other place i need 
17 of them and
only(!) 13 are allowed)

But i see something other:  The accidentals sometimes are big, sometimes are small. 
Are there rules
to get them all at the same size?

This is an example with accidentals with different sizes:

===
2   14  4  6   0   0  2
1  1   20  .04

bt
./
Ar
w80m
It90i20:20
%
c0f-- s3t zc+f<1 s1t //
e0f st zcf<1 za zfn<2 zef /
X.5 a2de+ sl-2-1 za+e s1u [+2 g8- zg+ f- zf+ ] //
c0+f<1.6 zef<1 stl /
%
c2f<1 s1t s2 zcf- s3t b4+ s2 b+ s //
X.5 e2f zfn<2 za zcf<1 zef st s1 d4 s1 zb zg cne /
f2n- s1+6 s-1 s g4 s g //
f2n s3 zef st zcf d4 zg s3 en s /
===

thanks for looking at it

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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap - more questions

2002-11-21 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
>
> http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/

Thanks for the information, i should have found this myself.

> As for the slur problem
So I guess I really
> ought to deal with this.

1.
On the first part of the breaking if the slur is in the lower part of the staff he 
(she?) goes down
a little bit.
On the upper part he goes up.
Has this a reason?

2.
I experimented with  s...s slurs (not st..st). In my example, setting the width to 
w23m, i noticed
that the shortest (ful) slur is one notehead long.
Is it possible to redifine a short continuation slur to such one (a full slur at the 
start of a
line)?
But it seems they cannot be lowerd, see adapted example (s1l(ow) and s1-3 does not 
work). I ran it
as is, and also edited with s1l or s1-3 .

3.
In older pieces i used a lot of tt...tt ties . Now the tt's are no more possible, is 
this wanted?

4.
I tried also
\\input musixpss.tex\
there the continuation slurs are normal slurs with thin ends on both sides and a bold 
middle.

==
4   44  4  6   0   0  2
1  2   20  .04




bttt
./
Apl
%\\input musixpss.tex\
w23m
%135
g43 s g s g  a s /
g24 .a s /
g24 .a s /
g24 .a s /
%
L2
f4 s r2d /
c4 s1-0-1 s1 s r2d /
a4s s r2d /
f4+ s1-3-1 s1-3 s-3 r2d /


and thanks for helping
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap

2002-11-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thank you  very much for helping, Olivier and Christian, but

I downloaded Don's pmx2407.zip.
In the pmxbeta.html it is mentioned that a new pmx.tex is needed in pmx2406, i did not 
found that
one. I tried pmx240.tex (with pmx2407.exe) but i see no improvement in using Apl.

Yes, adding a space helps, but the drawback here is, when the code is changed 
elsewhere (and the new
line is taken on an other place) the X1.5 is no more needed (and will propably not be 
removed).

thanks again
Andre
(who in the future will download the new version more often for not missing the new 
parts)

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From: "Christian Mondrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap


> Olivier Vogel wrote:
> > Don Simons has solved this problem since the version 2.401 of PMX.
> > Active the postscript slurs with the option Apl instead of Ap.
> >
> > For more information, look at
> > http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/pmx/pmxbeta.html
>
> and then if you think the continuation slur is still too narrow - which
> I do - you may improve by simply right offsetting the first note of the
> next staff:
>
> bttt
> ./
> Apl
> w30m
> %135
> g2.a s /
> g24 .a s /
> g24 .a s /
> g24 .a s /
> %
> L2
> X1.5 f4 s r2d /
> c4 s r2d /
> a4s s r2d /
> f4+ s-3 r2d /
>
>
> --
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[TeX-music] pmx - how to work with Ap

2002-11-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
I must confess, i do not know how to work with Ap in pmx.
I there somebody who can get the breaking slurs right in the following example?
Without Ap they look ok.
==
4   44  4  6   0   0  2
1  2   20  .04




bttt
./
Ap
w30m
%135
g2.a s /
g24 .a s /
g24 .a s /
g24 .a s /
%
L2
f4 s r2d /
c4 s r2d /
a4s s r2d /
f4+ s-3 r2d /
==

thanks in advance

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Re: [TeX-music] x-tuplet problem in PMX

2002-11-15 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
1 1 2 2 0 6 0 0
1 1 16 0.0

t
./
\\let\clsav\cl\
a24x3 b cs d2x6Dn3 g f e d | ex6n3 f e d c b  aux6Dn3 
\def\XB{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\ibl2{!##1}{-1}\let\cl\clsav\qb2{!##1}}}\
\XB\ a+ 
\def\XM{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\qb2{##1}}}\
\XM\ g \XM\ f 
%\def\XE{\def\cl##1{\let\cl\clsav\tbl2\qb1{##1}}}\
\tbl2\XM\ e  | /


little bit messy, sorry

Andre


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Subject: [TeX-music] x-tuplet problem in PMX


> In the following code I have two problems with x-tuplets:
> 
> 1) The last four notes in the first bar are not beamed as I would like
> them to be. I didn't find a way to convince PMX or musicTeX to do this.
> 
> 2) The quarter note in the second bar should be up up-stem. An u-option in
> the xtuplet before the 'D' results in an error message, behind the 'D' it
> is ignored, at least there's no visible change.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> Bernhard
> 
> 
> 1 1 2 2 0 6 0 0
> 1 1 16 0.0
> 
> t
> ./
> 
> a24x3 b cs d2x6Dn3 g f e d | ex6n3 f e d c b ax6Dn3 a+ g f e | /
> 
> 
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Re: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest

2002-11-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
Thank  you very much, Olivier and Don

i used this line:
r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-2 \tbu2\ c s1 \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ] r4 /
for the code ( the slope adapted a mentioned Don with +4, for not disturbing to muxh 
the midi)
and for making the midi better:
r8x3 c s1 e [u-2+4 ax3nf3-1 \tbu2\ cD s1 ] r4 /
The last 'cD' sounds to long, but this is hardly to hear on a piano. In any case the 
synchronising
of the 2 hands is right.

And thanks for simulation of the trios with an adapted beat, this i should not have 
found it myself.

Andre
(i uploaded this piece (componist Heller) )


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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:11 AM
Subject: RE: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest


> You could get the beam angle a little better on the altered group with
>
> r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ e ]
>
> Also, note that in this special case there was no need to save and restore
> the original definitions of \tbu and \qb but this will not always be the
> case.
>
> --Don Simons
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tex-music-admin@;sunsite.dk]On
> > Behalf Of Olivier Vogel
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest
> >
> >
> > Producing a score that looks fine and producing a sound file that sounds
> > fine are very different tasks. The main task of PMX is the first one:
> > producing handily a beautiful score. The midi files produced by PMX are
> > essentially useful to detect the eventual errors in the score by hearing.
> >
> > So, I think you have to decide which aspect you want to privilege :
> > 1) the quality of the score (what realises the measure 1)
> > 2) or the quality of the sound file (what realises the measure 2)
> >
> > In fact, PMX serves the first task and not the second one. The better
> > solution is to use it for producing good score and to use another
> > program to
> > modificate manually the midi file got with PMX.
> >
> > Here is my proposition for your example:
> >
> > 
> > 2   12  4  2  4   0  -4
> > 1  2   20  .02
> >
> > bt
> > ./
> > w100m
> > % tempo = 60
> > It60ipipi
> > %1  looks right, sounds badly
> > a82 ze+ .ea  a e /
> > r8x3 c e [u ax3nf \tbu2\ c \def\tbu#1{\relax}\def\qb#1#2{\qs}\ c ]  r4 /
> >
> > %2  sounds right, looks badly (very differently)
> > % tempo = 60 * 1.5 = 90
> > It90
> > L2M
> > m12/1/12/16 a82d s a1d s e1d+ a8d e8d //
> > e83d s e1d s r1db r4db /
> > r1 [ c- e ] [u a c ] r r4d /
> > 
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> >
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[TeX-music] xtuplet in pmx ending with a rest

2002-11-12 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem
In pmx the last item of a xtuplet cannot be a rest. This example will only run if the 
fisrt bar is
removed. Is it possible to solve the problem of the 1st bar *and* preserving the midi?
(this is a difficult sequens for a (novice) piano player; in the second mesure i tried 
to produce it
as close as i could, but the last 'c' must be replaced by a rest)

Thanks for helping
Andre

2   12  4  2  4   0  -4
1  1   20  .02

bt
./
w100m
%1
a82 ze+ .ea  a e /
r8x3 c e [u ax3nf c ] r r4 /
%2 replace the rest by a note:
a82 ze+ .ea  a e /
r8x3 c e [u ax3nf c st c st ]  r4 /
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Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K

2002-10-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I have examples with 200 slurs, it goes all well, but i do not hold my breath during 
processing.
The many files are a drawback. It is not possible to delete them in 1 command. If they 
were gathered
in a directory, it should be easier, but of course i am only the one who tells how to 
do it
(better), not the maker.


Andre

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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K


> On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
>
> > Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ?
> >
> As I said, there is a solution; it just is not automatic
> and thus labor-intensive. I have used musixpss but did not dare
> to use it for the Kunst der Fuge. Die Kunst der Fuge has several
> thousand ties and maybe 50 slurs and I do not know how well
> musixpss would handle such a large number. I considered to reduce
> the number of ties by using dotted notes. However, Bach wrote his
> music this way and when playing I see the reason why he did so.
>
> Christof
>
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K

2002-10-10 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Perhaps using musixspss can solve this problem ?

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Slurs Type K


> Dear all:
> 
> I work on improving older typesets. Because the
> Kneifl-type (pmx: Ap) ties look much better and cause less interference
> with notes or beams, I chose them. However, they have a setback;
> If the notes to be tied are close, the tie gets reduced
> to an almost invisible little hook. If a line break separates
> the tie, the end of the tie is also nearly invisible. Of course,
> there is a remedy: simply convert those ties to slurs which come
> out too short. This turned out in some cases to be
> a lot of repair and I wonder whether it is possible to
> introduce a lower bound into the tie length-calculating algorithm.
> 
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[TeX-music] Pmx-MusixTeX: instruments with no coherent bar division

2002-10-10 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I want bar and meterchanges in random staffs.

The \Showbarrule (with \changecontext)  repeats the meterchange on every staff, which 
i don't want.

In this example there is a meterchange on a single bar at synchronised barlines and 
also one within
a bar. I made this by trial and error, using TeX commands, but i am sure there is a 
better way to do
this.

I will be grateful for any hint on this.

Andre
 
---
\def\meq{\smalltype\tinynotesize\metronequiv{\lqu}{\qu}}
\def\mbar{\vrule height 4\Interligne depth 0pt width 0.3pt}
---
4 4  9  4   9   9  0 5
1  1   16  0
B
T
A
S
bttt
./
\\sepbarrules\
rp /
e8 f g a b c b2 a4 g8 s f g a g4 s /
r2 r4 r2 r4 r2 e4+ Df+16 /
rp /
%
\hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 r4 /
\hsk\llap{\loffset{0.5}{\meterfrac{3}{2}}}\
r4 D"\meq"+14-4 f e d e f
\hsk\llap{\mbar\meterfrac{3}{4}}\
r D"\meq"+14-3 r8 b b a /
\hsk\ b8 c d e f g f2 e4 \hsk\ d8 s c d e d4 s /
\hsk\ r2 r4 r2 r4 \hsk\ r2 b4+ Df+16 /
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Re: [TeX-music] fermata over a barline

2002-10-07 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

An example of use is when one want to indicate that the singer way wait (a little) 
between 2
strophes of a song: then the fermata is on the last bar.

This is what i use. (\ferma : after the last note; \fermb : before the first note)

1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
1 1 20 0

t
./
\\def\ferma{\sk\off{\beforeruleskip}\loffset{0.5}{\fermataup{8}}\off{-\beforeruleskip}\bsk}\
\\def\fermb{\off{-\afterruleskip}\loffset{0.5}{\fermataup{8}}\off{\afterruleskip}}\
g04 \off{\noteskip}\fermataup7\off{-\noteskip}\ g g g /
g04 \ferma\ g g \fermb\ g /


Andre

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Subject: Re: [TeX-music] fermata over a barline


> On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 19:14:56 Staffan Lundberg wrote:
> > Problem: To place a fermata sign over a barline.
> > How to solve this in M-Tx?
> >
> > Staffan Lundberg.
>
> Why?  A fermata extends the time value of a note.
> A barline has no time value, but indicates the
> first beat.  Are you extending the note on the
> first beat of the following measure?  I didn't
> think so.
>
> I am really curious.  Why do you want to
> do this, and what it is supposed to mean?  DaveA
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Re: [TeX-music] Case of the missing characters in lcgpmx.pdf...solved!

2002-10-04 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

In my acrobat 5, the greek text was default off, so i was not aware of the problem

Andre
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Subject: RE: [TeX-music] Case of the missing characters in lcgpmx.pdf...solved!


> Jean-Pierre Coulon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> 
> > But they show up correctly in Acrobat 5 !
> 
> Ah! But is your option "use greek text" selected or unselected? I'm
> using Acrobat Reader 5.0.5, and when I switched the greek text back on
> again (the first thing I did when installing the Reader was switching
> off both greek text and the splash screen) the slurs in figures 2.19 and
> 2.20 vanished, as Don described.
> 
> Greetz,
> Arjen
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx "bug" report

2002-09-23 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Replacing  1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1 by 1 1 4 2 4 2 0 -1  solves the problem

By the way, what is the most common symbol for a double not, have we to change the 
shape with:
\\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] pmx "bug" report


> Hi Don
> 
> A message "Program error in fnote, send source to Dr. Don" missleaded me
> for a minute until i realised that i'd just forgotten to put a meter
> change. But maybe this tells you something else hidden behind the sceene.
> Here's the extract giving the same error message.
> 
> ---
> 1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1
> 0 7 16 0.1
> 
> b
> ./
> g92 of Rd /
> ---
> 
> And a question concerning the limitation of 12 voices: I'd like to type a
> piece with 14 voices where 2 x 4 vocal voices could be packed together in
> 2 x 2 lines (four choirs, voices: BC + 4 + 4 + 3 + 2 ==> lines: BC + 2 + 2
> + 3 + 2). With musixtex or pmx plus inline tex it workes, but it is
> awfully tiresome. Is there another limitation on the number of voices
> inside pmx, else than musixtex' limitation?
> 
> regards
>   Bernhard
> 
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[TeX-music] pmx - cords in whole notes and longer notes

2002-09-22 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Is it possible yo have cords in whole notes and ornaments? They seem to flip below the 
staff.

And to shift a close note in a double whole note cord?

This is what happens at my place:


11   6  2  6  2   0 -1
1  1  20   .09

b
./
%
e2- f e9 of ze / 
%with zer
\\\def\breve{\wq}\def\zbreve{\zwq}\
e2 f za of e9 of zer /
%with whole notes
e2 f o> e0 o> of ze e0 of zer /
%whole notes without cords
e2 f e0 of e0 of /
e2 f e0 of e0 of zf /
e2 f e9 of zf /
m10/2/0/0
e2 f e9 of \bsk\hsk\ fe /
===


Thanks for looking at it

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Re: Fingering in PMX (was RE: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?)

2002-09-08 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

1
In piano pieces there are rarely fingernumbers left of the notes. Even with cords, 
they are stacked
above or beneath the chord. If they are between the notes, then the music becomes less 
readable.

2
I (always) use an 8 pt (postscript)font

3
... and stacked digits (hight ref on lower digit if above the chord, ...)?

4
I understand the advantage of using the accidental method is that the fingers are 
placed
automatically. If they collide with the accidentals, are they placed then after the 
notes?

Also the o command algorithm puts the symbols nicely above the staff or above the 
notes (but not the
notes with a (shorted) stem above a staff.


But i am an amateur, i follow the ideas of the professionals

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Re: [TeX-music] fingering in MusiXTeX ?- using the D command

2002-09-05 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

There are examples of piano pieces in the icking site(Chopin,Schuman, Schubert,Benoit, 
Grieg,...),
the commands are in the file mypmxdef.tex. I use them in pmx and Musixtex.

Something else: it would be nice if the D-command in pmx that start with a figure 
should have a tiny
(finger)font and that in that case the "..." are not used. This is already done in 
simular thing as
Dp Dmp .. they have the \ppff font.
Fingercommands then could be something as: D4+3-.2 ...
D"\tinyfont \t{45}" is to be done at the old way

I know, i mentioned this before, who am i to ask such things, not knowing if it is 
possible to do
it.

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Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX : local "transposition"

2002-08-04 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I used something as

\relax{\advance\transpose2\zcharnote{#3}{1}}

but if you make a working file , then i could search for a method

Andre

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>   Hello,
> 
>   I would like to write a macro which can put above each note linked by a 
> beam, a number (without giving the pitch of this number...). Example : 
> 
>1 3
>o o
>| |
>| | 
>|_|
> 
> i've  tried 
> \def\vtj#1#2#3#4{\ibl{0}{#2}{#1}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{1}}\qb{0}{#3}
> \tbl{0}{transpose=2\zcharnote{#3}{3}}\qb{0}{#4}}
> 
> The first number is correctly put, but not the second. I certainly don't 
> understand how to use \transpose several times. Idon't know how it  
> really works. 
> Does someone know how to do that ?
> 
> Vincent TORRI
> 
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help

2002-07-22 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I did not know it was so easy to do it, it is just what i need.

Thank you very much Christof.

Andre
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help


> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
>
> > -In the following example, how can i remove one beam from the first trio (i like 
>it to have the
same
> > view as the last one)?
> > Would it help if i could force the beam multiplicity to 0 (now it is 1-4)?
> >
> > -The last trio: the second note is not dotted
> >
> > 
> > 1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
> > 0 2 20 0
> >
> > t
> > ./
> > a24x4n3 eF d a4+x3n3 e d a4+x4n3 eF d /
> > a0+x4n3 eF d /
> > ===
> >
> Dear Andre:
> I do not understand your intention. Do you want a triolet?
> Is so why don't you use the normal notation?
> 
> a24x3 ed d a4+x3 e d a4+x3 ed d /
> a0+x3 ed d /
> 
> F is intended for a inaccurate notation used often in older
> music (2+1 instead of 3+1): dotted appearance with the spacing
> of a triolet.
> Christof
>
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[TeX-music] pmx: trios and quarter notes - i need help

2002-07-22 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

-In the following example, how can i remove one beam from the first trio (i like it to 
have the same
view as the last one)?
Would it help if i could force the beam multiplicity to 0 (now it is 1-4)?

-The last trio: the second note is not dotted


1 1 4 4 4 4 0 0
0 2 20 0

t
./
a24x4n3 eF d a4+x3n3 e d a4+x4n3 eF d /
a0+x4n3 eF d /
===

Thanks for looking at it

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Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?

2002-07-14 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I copied this file to 
C:\psfonts 
and to 
C:\localtexmf\fonts\type1\musixtex

Now it works, thank you very much Takanori Uchiyama

Andre
(i tried the pc version and the unix version on the icking site, neither of them is 
working)


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Subject: Re: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?


> From: "Andre Van Ryckeghem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?
> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 06:32:38 +0200
> 
> > Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file
> > (if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb,  then the the ps file is ok)
> 
> I think that xslhd24.pfb was broken.  Please try following.
> http://macptex.appi.keio.ac.jp/~uchiyama/musixps/xslhd24.pfb.gz
> -- 
> Takanori Uchiyama, PhD
> Dept. Applied Physics & Physico-Informatics,
> Fac. Science & Technology, KEIO University 
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[TeX-music] xslhd24.pfb error ?

2002-07-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I (re)downloaded musixps.zip (4.5MB) from 
http://icking-music-archive.sunsite.dk/software/indexmt6.html

I ran the batchfile to install (Miktex) and refreshed the database.

Everything goes well, except when i choose \largemusicsize and using dvips, i got the 
error:
Error: xslhd24.pfb is not a valid PFB file
(if i remove the \largemusicsize, with xslhd20.pfb,  then the the ps file is ok)

Did i something wrong?

Andre




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Re: [TeX-music] tying a dotted note

2002-07-10 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

> Has anybody a couple of hours to waste for a test, to convince me
> how PMX is more efficient than MusiXTeX ?
>
> Just typeset the first two pages of Dussek's sonata op.35#3, present
> on our Archive, so that it still fits on only *two* pages.
> (The MusiXTeX source is also available)
>
I  can do it but this week i am in a (Bach)song course, and i only have time at night. 
On Saturday i
can have it.

I do not see why you should not fit a piece on two pages in pmx, if you can do it in 
musixtex.

You also may have a look at Beethoven's allegro molto ( the 4 hands part and also ie. 
piano 1, with
8 systems on a page)

I know what large job you did and i admire it veru much. The last sheet i did on 
musixtex was
Laudate Domininum (Mozart), then Werner Icking convinced me to pmx, my production of 
sheets is now
1000 times faster (or is it 100 times?), and a little bit more accurate, because i can 
listen to the
midifiles.

Andre

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Re: [TeX-music] experiment on slurs

2002-07-08 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I am afraid i do not understand yet the slur mechanism (but never dared to confess)
i.e. Ap+t : is the adjustment autmatically (for dotted notes) or is it to allow t+0+1 ?

> Thanks for these comparisons, Andre.
I am happy that i can use pmx (musixtex). I have a great admiration for the programms 
and the
makers.

 I'll only comment about exodusaplt.
> The "l" option in "Apl+t" only alters the line-breaking ties, while +t
> affects all ties; neither one affects slurs at all.

the l and +t option can not be used together?


The tie at bar 44 looks
> fine to me.

the tie at the soprano is half a note lower than in the two other ps files (is the 
difference
between tie and slur that
the tie start right and ends left of the note?)

With some more work I could make "l" apply to slurs as well.
> It looks like line-break slurs would also benefit by having the 2nd part
> start further to the left than the default.  Unfortunately, I would also
> need to work out an algorithm for the height of the beginning of the 2nd
> part as well; this was a "no-brainer" for ties since they always end at the
> same height they start. Would you or anyone else care to suggest an
> algorithm for the height of the second part of a line-break slur?

perhaps let them be horizontal (as is the first part), then the height is given by the 
end of the
slur (and easy to change by the user)


> The bow of the slurs can be lessened with the "f" option. If you use that in
> the tenor in bars 33-34, you may cause a crash with the tie.  Then you
> should tweak the height of the tie.  But now you may not be able to get it
> exactly where you want it (down by 1\internote) because using Ap+t may not
> allow it.  That's exactly why I made \Notieadjust (Ap-t) the default in PMX.

I believe the bow of the tie is 2 internotes and this can not be less ? But yes, i 
forgot to use the
f option (f stands for flatter, h for higher and H for more higher an HH ...?)

I feel i have no right to nitpick (searched this word in a dictonary).
I waited long for slanted hairpins, and now we have them together with slurs that have 
a large, nice
vertical range.

Andre



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[TeX-music] experiment on slurs

2002-07-07 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I did an experiment on the slurs on my latest sheet exodus. The results are in

users.pandora.be

in  3 postscriptfiles
See the second page (numbered as 3) mesure 32, 33 and 44

Sorry if i did not understood the new options and used them wrong.


exodusorg.ps - with no options
The slurs are nice and break well. The bow is rather high.

exodusaplt.ps - option Apl+t
The slurs are nice but do not break that well (mesure 44). The bow is even more high.

exoduspss.ps - option \\input musixpss\relax\
The slurs are a little thin (for me), but acceptable, they break nicely. They are very 
flat (33),
which is for me an advantage.
Perhaps a drawback is that they produces many files, with no easy method to delete 
them in a
command.


Andre

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[TeX-music] pmw - 2 'how to' questions

2002-07-03 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I apologize if these are dumb questions, but I can't find the answer.

1. How can i spread a chord over 2 staffs (i know it is possible in musixtex)?

2. How can i produce an arpeggio when trios are involved (getting to work something as 
'a4x3 ? a
a' )?

Thanks for responding to tis

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Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics

2002-06-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

other changing of space in lyrics (in \setlyrics):

moving down a word : \lower2pt\hbox{word.}
moving up: \raise3pt\hbox{word}
moving left: \kernm3ptword
moving right: \kern3ptword (or ~word)

Andre


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Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Vertical space between lyrics


> 
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Rainer Dunker wrote:
> 
> >\verses{,\lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em},,,%
> > \lyrlayout{\vrule width 0pt height 1.2em}}%
> 
> Thank you.  This is wonderful.
> 
> > By the way: You can skip over notes within \setlyrics even with a simple
> > '~' instead of \empty{}, which makes writing and reading your score
> > somewhat easier.
> 
> I will put this to use also.  Thanks again for taking the time to work
> through the examples I had posted.
> 
> Kurt Kehler
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Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx restraint - annoying a-repeat

2002-06-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

you can play with the meter number as yo can see in this example (sorry it is pmx):
(if you dont want to see the meterchanges m8806 ---> m8800)

=
1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1
0 4 20 0

t
./
e8 e e e e e e e /
m8806
e8 e e e e e e e /
m16/16/0/0
e8 e e e e e e e /
===

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[TeX-music] pmx: rest shifted vertically from the default and fermata

2002-06-16 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

 This gives (at my place) an error. You can see it if you remove the first
line.
(in this example, removing the 'of' in the first line helps also)


1 1 4 4 0 6 0 -1
0 4 20 0

t
./
e44r r+0 of e2r //
f44f  rb of f2fi /
e4r rb of e2r //
f4f  r+0 f2fi /


Andre
(being in my opinion long away from the list, this means that pmx is very
stable)

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Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4

2002-06-10 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

m4400

Andre

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Subject: Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4


> On Thu, 16 May 2002, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
>
> > I am not sure if i understand it all, but your lines could be made by
this
> > code:
>
> > m4434
>
> How can I avoid the meter to be printed? I want to do a "silent" meter
> change.
>
> Stefan
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - trying to understand

2002-05-29 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

How should i code this, for the midi to play the two 'c' as 1 note (see
original without Ap, a correct but not so beautiful example )?

=
  11  3   8   0  0   0  0
1  1  20  0.07

b
./
w60m
I
Ap
e84 stl Ct e4 st zc+ /
===

Thanks
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -

2002-05-29 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

> the token st denotes a tie which is meant for tying equally pitched
> notes as opposite to slurs which is meant for some kind of phrasing.
> Apparently the postscript slur/ties implents the distinction between
> slurs and ties much stricter than the original musixtex slurs/ties. Thus
> if you replace the st tokens with s you get a slur running from notehead
> to notehead while st gives you an arc starting from the first notehead
> and ending at the following notehead at the height where it was started.

I agree, by recompiling older music i see i was using the st on a wrong way.

> I don't understand *why* you want to raise the ending of the hairpins by
> 15 - but that is what you actually get when you ask for it.

If you remove The 'Ap', then the hairpin is horizontal. I suppose i was to
lazy by only
raise the second D<

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[TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) -

2002-05-29 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Here i have a music line that behave on an other way with postscript slurs.
Which way is the right one?
(remove Ap to see the difference)

- Is the hairpin slope a new feature?
- the tie has an offset


  11  3   8   0  0   0  0
1  1  20  0.07

b
./
w60m
Ap
c84 st D< g4-  st D<+15 /
==


Andre


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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser

2002-05-29 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Thank you for helping.

Once i had a working versions of this fonts.

I do not think it is necessary to send a musixTeX source. I have the error
with a programm with 2 notes and a slur. So i think i installed something
wrong.

I redownloaded the most recent links from Don's email.

I checked again (all the fonts and the files, this is what i did):

Searching the c:\ drive for: 'music11.pfb' results in directories:
C:\PSFONTS
C:\localtexmf\fonts\type1\musixtex
both with date 4/08/2001. Al the other fonts are copied in those
directories.
I copied the linux fonts over the windows fonts (the linux dates are more
recent),
but the result remains the same (=wrong)

I had to copy the musixps fonts to C:\PSFONTS for gsview to work (did it
before and now again)

Searching the c:\ drive for: 'musix.map' results in directories:
C:\texmf\dvips\config  -> 3kB, 4/08/2001
C:\texmf\dvipdfm\config   -> 2kB, 4/08/2001
--> The pdf musix.map is the smallest.

Searching the c:\ drive for: 'config.ps' results in directories:
C:\texmf\dvips\config  -> date: 28/05/2002
Searching the c:\ drive for: 'config.pdf' results in directories:
C:\texmf\dvips\config  -> date: 28/05/2002
--> both have the line 'p+ musix.map'
--> tried also with this line before any other .map line
--> i removed all the musixtex ps fonts from config.map

C:\texmf\dvipdfm\config\config
has the line 'f musix.map'

i have put 'psslurs.pro' in 'C:\texmf\dvips\config'

scanned drive c:\ for 'musixps.tex' : c:\musixtex\slur-ps\musixps.tex
this is a place (and the only place where musixtex can find it)

i refreshed the Miktex database plenty o times.

The error still remains the same.

What can i do more (beside giving it up)?

Thanks in advance
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Re: [TeX-music] Postscript slurs, New PMX Beta (Version 2.358) - newbie pssluruser

2002-05-28 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Propably i misinstalled the psslur system, i cannot get them right.
I tested this code and the result in postscript (25k) is on
http://users.pandora.be/avr/

My question is: am i the only one with this result and in that case what i
have done wrong?

Andre


  11  3   8   0  0   0  0
1  1  20  0.07

t
./
Ap
\\input musixps\
c15 s g c- s e e e /
=

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Re: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX.

2002-05-20 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Perhaps musixtex redefines the line lenght?

I tried accollades:

{\input musixtex
...
\endextract % terminate excerpt
}%


The output is in that case very normal

Andre

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Subject: [TeX-music] Can't get extract to work with plain TeX.


> Can anyone see why the extract is screwing up the page layout (width,
font,
> and indentation)? If I comment it out, the page is centered differently
> (properly) and the width is constant like it should be.
>
> ===
> \hsize6.5in
> \vsize9in
> \font\twelverom=cmr12
> \twelverom
> Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla
> blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla.
> %
> % Extract copied from musixdoc
> {\input musixtex
> \parindent10mm
> \instrumentnumber{1} % a single instrument
> \setname1{Piano} % whose name is Piano
> \setstaffs1{2} % with two staffs
> \generalmeter{\meterfrac44}% 4/4 meter chosen
> \startextract % starting real score
> \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en
> \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\ql l\sk\ql n\en
> \bar
> \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{dgf}|\qlp i\en
> \notes\tbu0\qb0g|\ibbl1j3\qb1j\tbl1\qb1k\en
> \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en
> \endextract % terminate excerpt
> }%
> Blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla
> blabla blabla blabla. Blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla blabla.
> \bye
> ===
>
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Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4

2002-05-16 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

sorry, i forgot the trio macros


1 1 3 4  3 4  0 1 
1 2 20 0

t
./
%
gd25x4 e c bf /
fd2x4D gf f /
efd2x8Dn4 cD afD df c /
L2
m4434
\\\def\txt{\eightit 4}\
\downtrio c3{-3}\ g4++ e c bf /
\uptrio p20\ f2 d4f f /
\downtrio K40\ e4f c af d8f c /
---

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Re: [TeX-music] PMX crash on xtuplets beginning with a rest

2002-05-16 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I tested it with pmx 355 en 357a,  i see nothing wrong (Windowsxp)

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Re: [TeX-music] Writing 4/4 in 3/4

2002-05-16 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I am not sure if i understand it all, but your lines could be made by this
code:
---
1 1 3 4  3 4  0 1
1 2 20 0

t
./
%
gd25x4 e c bf /
fd2x4D gf f /
efd2x8Dn4 cD afD df c /
L2
m4434
g4++ e c bf /
f2 d4f f /
e4f c af d8f c /
--

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[TeX-music] 2 beams that crosses staffs - pmx - a problem

2002-05-13 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Thanks to the kindness of Don, here i am again

The example looks long but it is not, it repeats 3 times the code.

In this example the first line has music on 4 staffs, the next line on two
staffs. The code for the 1st line and de 2nd is the same, only the primo and
de secondo are apartin the 2nd line. There one can see what i meant.

On the 4 staffs the numbering of the beams goes wrong, the result can be
seen in the output. Is there a way around it, without editing the TeX
source?

Or am i doing stupid things?

Andre

-
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
4-2 2 244   0   6   0  2
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
1   2  20  .09
Secondo
Primo
bttt
./
%1
d23 a rbp //
rb2 r8 [ e83 a ]j rb8 b2- f /
d84 a f+ d rb4 rb8 [ju c ] f8 b- d b r-8 a c a //
d44 s+4 f a g s+3 f4 s d s f s e s /
rb2 c25r | rbp //
rb8 rb rb [jl d85 ] [+4 c ]j rb rb rb | d4l su fl s a2- /
[-9 d86 c d ]j rb rb [ju a e f ] | r d+ c b c f- a b /
%2
g2 d4 d+ //
r8 d+ g d rb2 /
Cb rb2 d8 f- a f //
d4l s bl s d s a s /
rbp //
b4 s g s a s f s /
g8 f e g f e d c /
%
L2
%1
d23 a rbp //
rb2 r8 [ e83 a ]j rb8 b2- f /
Ct d84 a f+ d rb4 rb8 [ju c ] f8 b- d b r-8 a c a //
d44 s+4 f a g s+3 f4 s d s f s e s /
rp rp /
rp rp /
%2
g2 d4 d+ //
r8 d+ g d rb2 /
Cb rb2 d8 f- a f //
d4l s bl s d s a s /
rp /
rp /
%1
rp rp /
rp rp /
rb2 c25r | rbp //
rb8 rb rb [jl d85 ] [+4 c ]j rb rb rb | d4l su fl s a2- /
[-9 d86 c d ]j rb rb [ju a e f ] | r d+ c b c f- a b /
%22
rp /
rp /
rbp //
b4 s g s a s f s /
g8 f e g f e d c /
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Re: [TeX-music] a4 paper

2002-05-11 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

\def\pagforaiv{\special{papersize=210mm,297mm}%only for pdf (default is
letter)
 \hoffset=-12.4mm\hsize=210mm\advance\hsize-23mm%
 \voffset=-15.4mm\vsize=297mm\advance\vsize-20mm\advance\vsize-12pt}%
 
 \pageforaiv

 -
 I do something like that. If you use acrobat for printing, then the
\special
 solves everything (overwrites the acrobat reader install for letter
format).
 (Acrobat reader adapt the  the layout for the page format, even without
 formatting for A4)

 If you want other margins, adapt the offsets

 Andre

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[TeX-music] Program error, tied notes, send source to Dr. Don

2002-05-03 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

I am sorry, to bargain the list again with this

This (see subject) is what i got on mesure 4, but i am afraid i am doing
something wrong

In the test programm, when removing  the midi line 'It120iororor', then
there is no error.

-
---
\input musixtex
---
%
% nv,noinst,mtrnuml,mtrdenl,mtrnump,mtrdenp,xmtrnum0,isig,
3-2 1 2   6  8  6  8   0  -2
% npages,nsyst,musicsize,fracindent
   1  1  20  .04
Ped.
Man.
bbt
./
It120iororor
rp g42,g g,g /
g23d st zb s1t zd s2t | g2d- st zb s1t zd s2t /
rp rp /
%7
d4,d+ c,c | b,a g8 f e /
e43d zg zb fd s2t zd | f s2t ,d gd //
rb4d a43d s1t | ad s1t bd /
e4d dd | d stu ,c zd st s1t dd s1t //
g44,g f,f | d,f gd /
--

Thanks beforehand for helping

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[TeX-music] Chord Grace notes

2002-04-23 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Is there a better way to implement chord Grace notes?

This is the best i can:
-
2   1   3   4   3   4   0  -2

1   1   20  .03

bt
./
w150
c43 b+ zes esi zb /
Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
Gxse4s g24dn /
---

Thanks for helping
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Re: [TeX-music] MS-DOS woes

2002-04-22 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

This are my settings (i think the same for 2000 and XP)


set PATH=c:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx;%path%

is replaced by:

in 2000, control panel -> system -> advanced -> environment. :

MUSc:\musixtex\pmx;c:\musixtex\mtx\prepmx

Path%MUS%;c:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\WIND.

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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - the wonderful D option

2002-04-17 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

This are a few thing i use, propably there are better ways, but this use the
pmx commands (i think).

Don had asked for suggestions, here they are:

- it would be nice if the D could be flipped above the staffs, something as
at the trios
- i do not know how to globally change the fonts on text in the D command,
ie for making fingerprints.
Perhaps things as D1, D45 (D starting with a figure) without the "" and in a
footnotesize (as Df is in ppff font).


>  * Printing revisions, copyright information, dates, etc at the bottom or
>top of each page.

this can be done in a footnote, see the many examples on the icking site
>
>  * Using more than one line for titles (Tt, Tc).

an other option beside \\  is using
>
>  * Globally redefine PMX fonts (i use \smalltype in Tc).

i do not know how to do this, but i prefer a font ie in a command the can be
adapted

>
>  * Positioning segno and coda symbols (i use \loffset and \roffset).

I us the pmx D, ie 'D"\segno"+15-10' see example
>
>  * Positioning text like "Solo ad lib" and "D. C. al Coda" (i use
>\loffset, \roffset and \zchar).
>
D again (Don has created here a small command with big power). If the text
is to long use a text command (see example)

>  * Using note symbols (segno, coda, quarter note) in dacapo and metronome
>directions.

D command see metron in example


1 1 4 4 4 4  0 0 0 4 20 0.08

t
./
Tt
t
h
t
\\def\Title{\vbox{\hbox{one}\hbox{Alto}\hbox{Two}\hbox{\bf Three}}}\
\\centerline{\Title}\
\\def\longtext{this is a long texttexttexttext}\
c44 D"\metron{\hu}{60}"+18 c44 D"\bf\longtext"+17+2 g44 g44 /
a44 a44 g24 D"\Segno"+15-10 /
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Re: [TeX-music] pmx - upbeat

2002-04-10 Thread Andre Van Ryckeghem

Thank you very much Don, yes it solve my problem
the last but 1 line is
IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 

(I forgot to move the m3400 at the split and got the error)
.
> --
> 11   1  8  3 4 0   -4
> 1   1  16  .07
> 
> t
> ./
> I
> % 0 and 1
> e84 Rl /
> \\\advance\barno-1\
> IMR1
> m3400 c45d e8 b c /
> IM IMR2
> % 2
> V1.2.~and~3 r4 r r8 e Rr /
> % 3 and 4 only accompaniment
> IM IMP1 IMP2 IMP1 IMP2
> Vb V~Fine dd24 ed /
> ---
> 
> I'll look into this, but please don't hold your breath.

Thanks i feel better now

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