Re: [Texascavers] an Austin karst related question
Watch this movie before you start asking questions. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unforeseen/Oct 17, 2011 12:15:22 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Not being from Austin and living in a city without the politics ofkarst, I am not familiar at allwith the issues that go on there. I am curious though, as tohow the various government entities and policies overlap and whosepolicy is above the other.I think what I am getting at below is, that if a landowner in the areaor a caver wanted to get involved in( or just knowledgeable about ) the karst politics there, where dothey get the Cliff Notes version,or "Karst Politics for Dummies," etc.For example, there is an entity called the Barton Springs EdwardAquifer Conservation District( BSEACD ) and a policy called the Balcones Canyonlands Preserve ( BCCP ).The BCCP is just an acronym for a conservation planof the USFWS. Right ?I presume that the lands managed by the BCCP fall within thejurisdictional boundaries of the BSEACD.Is that correct ?But the BCCP deals with all natural aspects of the lands being managed by itscooperating partners, not just groundwater issues, but is just westernpart of TravisCounty. Right ?And,do other agencies such as Texas Commission of Environmental Quality (TCEQ ) haveany authority the ones above ? or any others ?Can anyone put it all in layman's terms ?Also,I am curious as to which gov't official, who is a proven friend ofkarst, has the highest positionon the totem pole. Maybe that isn't the right wording. Theperson considered most respectablein the gov't that cavers have connections with ?David LocklearRef:http://www.tceq.texas.gov/field/eapp/apps.htmlhttp://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/wildland/downloads/appendixg-balconescanyonlandspreservekarstmonitoring.pdfhttp://www.bseacd.org/about-us/framework-policies/http://urbanwildlife2011.tpwd.state.tx.us/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Urban-Wildlife-2011/117128901633633-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 -0000 Issue 1413
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 - Issue 1413 Topics (messages 18823 through 18834): Re: a new LED flashlight 18823 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18824 by: John Greer 18826 by: George-Paul Richmann TCMA volunteers receive BS/EACD award : 18825 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18830 by: Rick Corbell 18831 by: Matt Turner Re: Photos to come I hope 18827 by: Butch Fralia 18828 by: Bill Bentley TCR 2011 Wrapup 18829 by: Allan B. Cobb an Austin karst related question 18832 by: David 18833 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net TCMA Awards at TCR 18834 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- While I certainly agree with the first comments that anyone who does not actively cave in my particular interest (vertical pits or dark zone rock art) 22.74 times a week in my area of interest (whatever that may be) should not be allowed to post to a caving list on the subject of cave backup lights or other similarly nonuseful subjects, I also agree with Atkin's reply that such extraneous posts -- e.g., life-saving lighting systems, people permanently lost in Indiana, details of annual caving meetings, training sessions of various kinds, or Russian caves -- should not be censored from this list. Even with no brains left at all -- or interest in most of what's posted on internet commentary -- most of us want the choice to decide for ourselves, however unpopular that may be nowadays. We also use batch select + Delete, or Mail Message Rules to auto delete certain people (I wish) or topics. You don't have to read what you don't want. This is certainly off-topic for cave info! John Greer - Original Message - From: jerryat...@aol.com To: gprichm...@gmail.com ; dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try
[Texascavers] TSA Awards at TCR
At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb
Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight
I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP
[Texascavers] TSA vote
Members of the Texas Speleological Association, If you were not be able to attend TCR last week-end but wish to vote in the general election of Texas Speleological Association officers for 2011, you need to write me immediately with your best USPS address to receive a ballot. Official ballots will be mailed out today Monday, October 18, one to each individual or student membership and two to each family membership. Please promptly return the card (postmarked by Wednesday, October 26) as I will do the final count on Saturday, October 30. You will need to provide an envelope, stamp and then mail back to me. And please only vote once for President. Remember that all candidates must be NSS members, so inquire if you have a write-in vote. And please write or give me a call if you have questions. If you know of a member who does not subscribe to “texascavers,” please pass on this information for me. Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair 13101 Wild Turkey Drive Manchaca, TX 78652 ronra...@austin.rr.com (512) 280-9648 Sample Ballot (for the Sunday, October 17, 2010 election) □Chairman Mark Alman NSS # 43400 □Chairman Don Arburn NSS # 56822 □Vice Chairman Ellie Watson NSS # 60439 □Treasurer Michael Cicherski NSS # 36668 □Secretary Denise Prendergast NSS # 48638 □Floor nomination There were no nominations from the floor □Write in vote
[Texascavers] Karst easement question
I am looking for information on a small parcel of land in Williamson County, Cedar Park area. It is about a half acre close to Avery Ranch Blvd and South Bell Blvd, part of the Fenway Park Subdivision I think. If anyone has any information please respond to me directly, off of “Texascaver”. Jon Jon Cradit RS., PG. Environmental Coordinator EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 NORTH ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78215 www.edwardsaquifer.org 210-222-2204 Desk, 210-477-8523 jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org
[Texascavers] old Bexar Cavers
The Bexar Cavers that the TSS does _not_ have, even as photocopies, are Any issues of volume 1 (1971, called the Alamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 3,4,5,8,9,10. That is, we're probably missing 1,2,6,7,11,12, assuming issues in fact came out every month. The issues were not actually numbered in print. The issues we have are numbered based on the month of the meeting announcement. The numbering may be incorrect if some of the missing issues never existed. Any issues of volume 2 (1972, also called the Amamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 2,8,9,11,12. That is, missing are 1,3-7, and 10. The same note about numbering applies. The only copy we have of Bexar Caver volume 6, number 6 (June 1976), which was spirit duplicated (purple Ditto), spent some time wet and is half illegible. A replacement would be nice. We are missing volume 7 number 3 (March 1977), if it exists. It may not, because number 2 ends with page 9 and number 4 starts with page 10. Copies or scans of missing material can be sent to the TSS or directly to me (Bill Mixon, 14045 North Green Hills Loop, Austin, Texas 78737). My scanning that one particular old Texas newsletter is sort of a demonstration project to encourage the TSS to do the same thing to other old Texas caving club newsletters, rare and not so rare. I don't expect to have time to do much more of that myself. I'm sure they'd love other volunteers. You need a flat-bed scanner and, hopefully, some image editing software to straighten and optimize the scans, as well as some program to assemble the pages back into issues or volumes. (Word can probably do that.) Considering the alternative, which is not getting them scanned at all, I imagine you wouldn't be under a lot of pressure to get it done in a hurry. Contact a TSS board member, not me (although I do have that long write-up on how I do it). -- Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 -0000 Issue 1414
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 - Issue 1414 Topics (messages 18835 through 18848): TSA Awards at TCR 18835 by: Allan B. Cobb Re: a new LED flashlight 18836 by: Andy Gluesenkamp news related / personal 18837 by: David 18838 by: Corky 18840 by: Nancy Weaver 18844 by: John Greer TSA vote 18839 by: Ron Ralph Karst easement question 18841 by: Jon Cradit Re: a cool caver-type project 18842 by: Stefan Creaser 18848 by: Gill Edigar old Bexar Cavers 18843 by: Mixon Bill TCR 2011 18845 by: Carl Kunath TCR Cooks thanks... 18846 by: Stefan Creaser 18847 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the
[Texascavers] clothes in the suspended jacuzzi
You can imagine how many bureaucrats they had to deal with to get permission for that, and it was no doubt on TV, etc. Give 'em a break, even though Europeans (even Brits) are a lot less prudish than (at least a noisy faction of) Americans.--Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] news related / personal
I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I see you are letting the wants/needs of the one outweigh the wants/needs of the many. I love democracy! On 10/17/2011 8:24 AM, David wrote: I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I don't have time to read most posts, and I certainly don't have time (days or weeks) to comb through the web trying to find everything that I want to know about, however peripherally. That's why God invented David and several other people who seem to spend their lives looking for things that the rest of us can access. For instance, there is a Spanish caver that posts about 200 things a week on cave archeology and deep cave discoveries. Without him (and David) I certainly wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the world. I can't tell David what to do with his life, especially in the face of constant and extreme criticism, or what the rest of this list wants to allow to be posted, but I certainly vote for vociferousness (that's a word!) over silence and ignorance. And that pertains to potential cave lights as well as just caving news in general. John - Original Message - From: Nancy Weaver To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I agree! David! Don't shut up :-) Barb Please note: message attached From: John Greer jgr...@greerservices.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:12:06 -0600 Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e9cc6a0d20f0b75942st05vuc---BeginMessage--- I don't have time to read most posts, and I certainly don't have time (days or weeks) to comb through the web trying to find everything that I want to know about, however peripherally. That's why God invented David and several other people who seem to spend their lives looking for things that the rest of us can access. For instance, there is a Spanish caver that posts about 200 things a week on cave archeology and deep cave discoveries. Without him (and David) I certainly wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the world. I can't tell David what to do with his life, especially in the face of constant and extreme criticism, or what the rest of this list wants to allow to be posted, but I certainly vote for vociferousness (that's a word!) over silence and ignorance. And that pertains to potential cave lights as well as just caving news in general. John - Original Message - From: Nancy Weaver To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 00:22:23 -0000 Issue 1415
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 00:22:23 - Issue 1415 Topics (messages 18849 through 18859): Re: a cool caver-type project 18849 by: Stefan Creaser 18850 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18851 by: Stefan Creaser 18852 by: Nico Escamilla 18853 by: Stefan Creaser 18855 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 18857 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Re: TCR Cooks thanks... 18854 by: Heather Tucek clothes in the suspended jacuzzi 18856 by: Mixon Bill Midland reporter Telegram story 18858 by: Bill Bentley Re: news related / personal 18859 by: Barb Coons (Capocy) Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Have you tried woad, Stefan?Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill EdigarSent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PMTo: Mixon BillCc: Cavers TexasSubject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Not for many years… Hmm, I see a TCR theme forming :-) From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:08 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: gi...@att.net; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Have you tried woad, Stefan? Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes
[Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR
Hi all, I would like to share will all of you the Texas Cave Management Association award recipients. At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, Heather Tucek won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for her work with Whirlpool Cave Preserve. Mike Harris won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for his work at Robber Baron Cave. TCMA also presented a Lifetime Achievement Award to William Russell. William has been an active caver for more years than most of us remember. William has dug open and explored more caves than many of us have seen. William has worked hard in the area of cave conservation for many, many years. Williams contribution to caving in Texas has been immense. TCMA gave William this award as a thanks for all his contributions. Allan Cobb President, TCMA
Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR
Worthy recipients all!! Leslie Bell --- On Mon, 10/17/11, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote: From: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Subject: [Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 6:38 AM Hi all, I would like to share will all of you the Texas Cave Management Association award recipients. At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, Heather Tucek won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for her work with Whirlpool Cave Preserve. Mike Harris won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for his work at Robber Baron Cave. TCMA also presented a Lifetime Achievement Award to William Russell. William has been an active caver for more years than most of us remember. William has dug open and explored more caves than many of us have seen. William has worked hard in the area of cave conservation for many, many years. Williams contribution to caving in Texas has been immense. TCMA gave William this award as a thanks for all his contributions. Allan Cobb President, TCMA
[Texascavers] Lost Chair
Ted Lee, Some one told me that you might have picked up a extra chair at Bills Steele's camp. Its dark blue and it has a foot rest that pops up when you lean back. If anyone knows about this , please let me know something. Happy Caving!!!\Mark Gee
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 04:14:03 -0000 Issue 1416
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 04:14:03 - Issue 1416 Topics (messages 18860 through 18870): Re: TCR Cooks thanks... 18860 by: Mark Minton 18861 by: Aimee Beveridge 18862 by: Katherine Arens 18864 by: Leslie Bell 18866 by: Terry Holsinger 18867 by: Stefan Creaser 18868 by: Stefan Creaser 18869 by: TM Raines 18870 by: Stefan Creaser Re: TCMA Awards at TCR 18863 by: Leslie Bell Lost Chair 18865 by: mark gee Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Since I wasn't at TCR (although I wish I could have been), I didn't see the big feed. What are Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) and Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)? Sounds like a great feast - sorry I missed it. Mark Minton At 01:37 PM 10/17/2011, Stefan Creaser wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who havent seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boys Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell Green Salad (Jewel o t Eart Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) Rice and Peas (Cat o nine tails) Terry Holsinger Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrots Booty) Umm Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that hed like to help, but didnt want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, its more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks yall, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially,Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in
[SWR] Lincoln Caverns register
A register that had been in Lincoln Caverns at Fort Stanton Cave was bought out in a glass jar in the mid-1990s. Does anyone know what may have happened to it, or does anyone have it? Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] TCR 2011
Congratulations and thanks to Allan Cobb and his host of unsung volunteers for yet another great Texas Caver Reunion. You folks do a great job! Special thanks this year to whomever followed though with providing name tags at registration. Wonderful! ===Carl Kunath
[Texascavers] Midland reporter Telegram story
http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_d4caee7b-32d1-549a-8ba1-3508e9ea19af.html This is a few weeks old already but never too late to post... Most of you know long time caver Walter Feaster from Midland.
[PBSS] Midland reporter Telegram story
http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_d4caee7b-32d1-549a-8ba1-3508e9ea19af.html This is a few weeks old already but never too late to post... ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
I for one am hoping we never have any high bridges near Texas Caving events! Stefan -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:53 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.comwrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/**affichjacc_264_e.htmlhttp://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon --**-- I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,**605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,**366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.—Sir Arthur Eddington --**-- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org --**--**- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscribe@**texascavers.comtexascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-help@texascavers.**comtexascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Have you tried woad, Stefan?Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill EdigarSent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PMTo: Mixon BillCc: Cavers TexasSubject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Not for many years… Hmm, I see a TCR theme forming :-) From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:08 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: gi...@att.net; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Have you tried woad, Stefan? Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
It's alright to get naked, its just not everybody's cup of tea, I for example hang out by the fire but dont even get in the tub cause I think its asking for an infection (did you see how the water looked last year? it was really grim) and I also heard stories about a girl who kept contributing to make the water warmer.. I like most of y'all and enjoy hanging out but getting in there is not for me, let alone naked. (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. ** ** I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! ** ** Stefan ** ** *From:* bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Gill Edigar *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM *To:* Mixon Bill *Cc:* Cavers Texas *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project ** ** They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger ** ** On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon ** ** -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
It's not really 'tea', more like caver soup ;-) --Stefan From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:10 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: Gill Edigar; Mixon Bill; Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project It's alright to get naked, its just not everybody's cup of tea, I for example hang out by the fire but dont even get in the tub cause I think its asking for an infection (did you see how the water looked last year? it was really grim) and I also heard stories about a girl who kept contributing to make the water warmer.. I like most of y'all and enjoy hanging out but getting in there is not for me, let alone naked. (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.commailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.commailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Hah! Nico was wandering about Saturday night with a tall bottle of the only thing known to kill cooties (or at least make you not care). Seriously, I tried tubbing nekkid and I was told I would have to buy another wristband for my friend. No really, I jumped in nekkid and came out wearing a black wool sweater. What's with that? Honestly, I think I see enough of most of you as it is. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
This is great!Oct 14, 2011 10:53:11 AM, bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- MixonI believe there are15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur EddingtonYou may "reply" to the address this messagecame from, but for long-term use, save:Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.eduAMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven't seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together... Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper - coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) - Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy's Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) - Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek - Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell - Green Salad (Jewel o' t' Eart' Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) - Rice and Peas (Cat o' nine tails) Terry Holsinger - Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** - Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger - Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones - Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge - Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot's Booty) Umm - Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) - Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he'd like to help, but didn't want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it's more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes - Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y'all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
I want to also thank all the cooks and servers. Y'all did a great job! Allan Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! On 17 October 2011 12:41, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote: I want to also thank all the cooks and servers. Y'all did a great job! Allan Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All, ** ** The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. ** ** Please give a **big** thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! ** ** And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). ** ** Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) ** ** ** ** And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together…** ** ** ** Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) ** ** Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) ** ** Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) ** ** Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) ** ** (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) ** ** And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. ** ** And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. ** ** Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. ** ** Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). ** ** -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Since I wasn't at TCR (although I wish I could have been), I didn't see the big feed. What are Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) and Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)? Sounds like a great feast - sorry I missed it. Mark Minton At 01:37 PM 10/17/2011, Stefan Creaser wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who havent seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boys Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell Green Salad (Jewel o t Eart Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) Rice and Peas (Cat o nine tails) Terry Holsinger Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrots Booty) Umm Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that hed like to help, but didnt want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, its more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks yall, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially,Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
And maybe a serving time to go with the lovely and thematic menus?
At 6:03 PM -0700 10/17/11, Aimee Beveridge wrote:
I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making
it all go so smoothly, especially, Mr. Holsinger
for the super squash recipe. Yum!
It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice
addition. ASS did a good job helping.
One suggestion for next year: get someone parked
in the front of the line to sit and watch to
make sure everyone has their bracelets on.
There were a few (eating with the cooks no less)
that had not paid.
Anyway, there will always be those that feel
entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they
really wanted to pay but the registration gurus
had stepped away.
Aimee
From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org
To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com
Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com;
Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!!
All,
The big feed on Saturday would not have happened
without the extreme generosity of one person and
the hard work of two others.
Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!!
And another to Vico Jones for butchering the
steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to
those who haven't seen the cow butchering video
on facebook (or not, it was graphic!).
Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority
of the legwork in getting all the food bits
together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or
read the description cards of the dishes :-)
And of course please thank your cooks for
slaving all day over hot burners and cutting
boards, and all the time before hand in putting
it together
Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper - coconut bars (Pieces of Eight)
Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) - Pineapple
Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy's Delight)
Aimee Beveridge (w/?) - Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks)
Heather Tucek - Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad)
Leslie Bell - Green Salad (Jewel o' t' Eart' Salad)
Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) - Rice and Peas (Cat o' nine tails)
Terry Holsinger - Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered)
Galen Falgout** - Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave)
Terry Holsinger - Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken)
Vico Jones - Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer)
Aimee Beveridge - Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot's Booty)
Umm - Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise)
Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) - Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)
(** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he'd
like to help, but didn't want to do/own a whole
dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate
that!)
And to their many helpers for
cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc.
And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that
together, it's more complicated than you
think!!), and for generally being awesome for
doing a lot of final prep and help for various
dishes - Smoked beef and sausage slices, for
instance.
Thanks y'all, and very much so from me.
Stefan
(Chief Cook and Bottle Washer).
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
It was a good crew and everyone kicked ass.
Thanks to all!
Leslie Bell
--- On Mon, 10/17/11, Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org wrote:
From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com
Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com, Cavers Texas
texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 1:16 PM
And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!!
On 17 October 2011 12:41, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
I want to also thank all the cooks and servers. Y'all did a great job!
Allan
Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone
On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
All,
The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity
of one person and the hard work of two others.
Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!!
And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking
it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or
not, it was graphic!).
Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all
the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the
description cards of the dishes :-)
And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and
cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together…
Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight)
Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s
Delight)
Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks)
Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad)
Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad)
Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails)
Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered)
Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave)
Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken)
Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer)
Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty)
Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise)
Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)
(** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to
do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!)
And to their many helpers for
cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc.
And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated
than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final
prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance.
Thanks y’all, and very much so from me.
Stefan
(Chief Cook and Bottle Washer).
-- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are
confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
On a related subject, I think we could use a big clock so those in the kitchen have some idea as to what time it is. ;) Terry H. On 10/17/2011 8:35 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: And maybe a serving time to go with the lovely and thematic menus? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Terry Holsinger tr...@sprynet.com wrote: On a related subject, I think we could use a big clock so those in the kitchen have some idea as to what time it is. ;) Terry H. On 10/17/2011 8:35 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: And maybe a serving time to go with the lovely and thematic menus? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Can anyone tell me how the veggie recipe was, by the time I ate it was long gone?! I hear the fish was excellent too, but that's not my bag. I was at the front of the line for a bit until Don Arburn took over, after that I went down the line a few times and everyone had a band. I did see the couple of people you saw Aimee (but I was too busy to do anything about it), I know who they are and hopefully they'll be making a suitable donation to a caving charity in the very near future (copy of the receipts would be appreciated ;-). Overall i'm glad the majority of people know what it takes to make sure everyone has a good time! Even thou I arrived later than I wanted, and worked more that planned, I still had a great time (perhaps more than the other years i've been involved - probably due to TerryH). Thanks to those who pull TCR together, and to Dave 'Cave' McClung for manning the bar (those who missed out on that missed out on some great drinks! - next year y'all). I have a theme in mind for next year already, planning begins! Stefan Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge aim...@yahoo.commailto:aim...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially, Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.orgmailto:trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 mailto:trog...@cavechat.orgtrog...@cavechat.orgmailto:trog...@cavechat.org -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Speaking of Food, You know we've been teasing those Aggies for years, but I think this breaking news is complete vindication and justification for their activity. Making Me Hungry, Terry PS any ideas Vico?? Rats, mice, foxes, owls, pigeons, moles, snakes and pheasants: the makings of a pleasant episode of Winnie the Pooh, an autumnal diorama of woodland life at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia -- or, for one 44-year-old UK man, 30 years worth of dinner. Jonathan McGowan, a professional taxidermist, started eating roadkill at age 14, when he found a dead adder on the side of the road and decided to cook it, reports the Daily Mail. That first snake wasn't very tasty, but he was intrigued. Over time, McGowan came to see the ecological and culinary benefits of eating only meat he found dead on the side of the road. (It seems his forager-instincts were limited to the flesh: he would buy fruits, vegetables, grains, spice and so forth like any other person.) McGowan detailed the logistics of his diet in a rollicking essay in The Guardian last spring. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.html
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Someone actually suggested, over dinner, roadkill as a theme one year. It's certainly possible. Vico reminded me that I wouldn't stop for the armadillo crossing the road on the way back from butchering the beef. I maintain he looked too cute and was out for a stroll in the cool air after the rain, it would have been harsh. And that the back of the car was *entirely* full of coolers full of beef... Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:05 PM, TM Raines tmrai...@amcs.orgmailto:tmrai...@amcs.org wrote: On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Speaking of Food, You know we've been teasing those Aggies for years, but I think this breaking news is complete vindication and justification for their activity. Making Me Hungry, Terry PS any ideas Vico?? Rats, mice, foxes, owls, pigeons, moles, snakes and pheasants: the makings of a pleasant episode of Winnie the Pooh, an autumnal diorama of woodland life at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia -- or, for one 44-year-old UK manhttp://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-1629-uk-man-jonathan-mcgowan-lives-on-roadkill-for-30-years-never-buy-meat.html, 30 years worth of dinner. Jonathan McGowanhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048527/Owl-curry-adder-butter-stir-fried-craneflies-Meet-man-survived-diet-roadkill-30-YEARS.html, a professional taxidermist, started eating roadkill at age 14, when he found a dead adderhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipera_berus on the side of the road and decided to cook it, reports the Daily Mail. That first snake wasn't very tasty, but he was intrigued. Over time, McGowan came to see the ecological and culinary benefitshttp://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-1629-uk-man-jonathan-mcgowan-lives-on-roadkill-for-30-years-never-buy-meat.html of eating only meat he found dead on the side of the road. (It seems his forager-instincts were limited to the flesh: he would buy fruits, vegetables, grains, spice and so forth like any other person.) McGowan detailed the logistics of his diethttp://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/26/i-eat-roadkill in a rollicking essay in The Guardian last spring. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Just so you know, there was a big falling out over the bands. We had 35 people (last I heard on the numbers) show up after they closed registration. There was little to no organization with getting arm bands while people were in line and Mike got angry about it and threw his clipboard at Joe and left the area, people were paying but no one had the armbands. Other than that, things went well :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Can anyone tell me how the veggie recipe was, by the time I ate it was long gone?! I hear the fish was excellent too, but that's not my bag. I was at the front of the line for a bit until Don Arburn took over, after that I went down the line a few times and everyone had a band. I did see the couple of people you saw Aimee (but I was too busy to do anything about it), I know who they are and hopefully they'll be making a suitable donation to a caving charity in the very near future (copy of the receipts would be appreciated ;-). Overall i'm glad the majority of people know what it takes to make sure everyone has a good time! Even thou I arrived later than I wanted, and worked more that planned, I still had a great time (perhaps more than the other years i've been involved - probably due to TerryH). Thanks to those who pull TCR together, and to Dave 'Cave' McClung for manning the bar (those who missed out on that missed out on some great drinks! - next year y'all). I have a theme in mind for next year already, planning begins! Stefan Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge aim...@yahoo.commailto: aim...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially, Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.orgmailto:trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.commailto: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender
Re: [Texascavers] an Austin karst related question
Watch this movie before you start asking questions. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unforeseen/Oct 17, 2011 12:15:22 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Not being from Austin and living in a city without the politics ofkarst, I am not familiar at allwith the issues that go on there. I am curious though, as tohow the various government entities and policies overlap and whosepolicy is above the other.I think what I am getting at below is, that if a landowner in the areaor a caver wanted to get involved in( or just knowledgeable about ) the karst politics there, where dothey get the Cliff Notes version,or "Karst Politics for Dummies," etc.For example, there is an entity called the Barton Springs EdwardAquifer Conservation District( BSEACD ) and a policy called the Balcones Canyonlands Preserve ( BCCP ).The BCCP is just an acronym for a conservation planof the USFWS. Right ?I presume that the lands managed by the BCCP fall within thejurisdictional boundaries of the BSEACD.Is that correct ?But the BCCP deals with all natural aspects of the lands being managed by itscooperating partners, not just groundwater issues, but is just westernpart of TravisCounty. Right ?And,do other agencies such as Texas Commission of Environmental Quality (TCEQ ) haveany authority the ones above ? or any others ?Can anyone put it all in layman's terms ?Also,I am curious as to which gov't official, who is a proven friend ofkarst, has the highest positionon the totem pole. Maybe that isn't the right wording. Theperson considered most respectablein the gov't that cavers have connections with ?David LocklearRef:http://www.tceq.texas.gov/field/eapp/apps.htmlhttp://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/wildland/downloads/appendixg-balconescanyonlandspreservekarstmonitoring.pdfhttp://www.bseacd.org/about-us/framework-policies/http://urbanwildlife2011.tpwd.state.tx.us/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Urban-Wildlife-2011/117128901633633-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 -0000 Issue 1413
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 - Issue 1413 Topics (messages 18823 through 18834): Re: a new LED flashlight 18823 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18824 by: John Greer 18826 by: George-Paul Richmann TCMA volunteers receive BS/EACD award : 18825 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18830 by: Rick Corbell 18831 by: Matt Turner Re: Photos to come I hope 18827 by: Butch Fralia 18828 by: Bill Bentley TCR 2011 Wrapup 18829 by: Allan B. Cobb an Austin karst related question 18832 by: David 18833 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net TCMA Awards at TCR 18834 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- While I certainly agree with the first comments that anyone who does not actively cave in my particular interest (vertical pits or dark zone rock art) 22.74 times a week in my area of interest (whatever that may be) should not be allowed to post to a caving list on the subject of cave backup lights or other similarly nonuseful subjects, I also agree with Atkin's reply that such extraneous posts -- e.g., life-saving lighting systems, people permanently lost in Indiana, details of annual caving meetings, training sessions of various kinds, or Russian caves -- should not be censored from this list. Even with no brains left at all -- or interest in most of what's posted on internet commentary -- most of us want the choice to decide for ourselves, however unpopular that may be nowadays. We also use batch select + Delete, or Mail Message Rules to auto delete certain people (I wish) or topics. You don't have to read what you don't want. This is certainly off-topic for cave info! John Greer - Original Message - From: jerryat...@aol.com To: gprichm...@gmail.com ; dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try
[Texascavers] TSA Awards at TCR
At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb
Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight
I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP
[Texascavers] TSA vote
Members of the Texas Speleological Association, If you were not be able to attend TCR last week-end but wish to vote in the general election of Texas Speleological Association officers for 2011, you need to write me immediately with your best USPS address to receive a ballot. Official ballots will be mailed out today Monday, October 18, one to each individual or student membership and two to each family membership. Please promptly return the card (postmarked by Wednesday, October 26) as I will do the final count on Saturday, October 30. You will need to provide an envelope, stamp and then mail back to me. And please only vote once for President. Remember that all candidates must be NSS members, so inquire if you have a write-in vote. And please write or give me a call if you have questions. If you know of a member who does not subscribe to “texascavers,” please pass on this information for me. Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair 13101 Wild Turkey Drive Manchaca, TX 78652 ronra...@austin.rr.com (512) 280-9648 Sample Ballot (for the Sunday, October 17, 2010 election) □Chairman Mark Alman NSS # 43400 □Chairman Don Arburn NSS # 56822 □Vice Chairman Ellie Watson NSS # 60439 □Treasurer Michael Cicherski NSS # 36668 □Secretary Denise Prendergast NSS # 48638 □Floor nomination There were no nominations from the floor □Write in vote
[Texascavers] Karst easement question
I am looking for information on a small parcel of land in Williamson County, Cedar Park area. It is about a half acre close to Avery Ranch Blvd and South Bell Blvd, part of the Fenway Park Subdivision I think. If anyone has any information please respond to me directly, off of “Texascaver”. Jon Jon Cradit RS., PG. Environmental Coordinator EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 NORTH ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78215 www.edwardsaquifer.org 210-222-2204 Desk, 210-477-8523 jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org
[Texascavers] old Bexar Cavers
The Bexar Cavers that the TSS does _not_ have, even as photocopies, are Any issues of volume 1 (1971, called the Alamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 3,4,5,8,9,10. That is, we're probably missing 1,2,6,7,11,12, assuming issues in fact came out every month. The issues were not actually numbered in print. The issues we have are numbered based on the month of the meeting announcement. The numbering may be incorrect if some of the missing issues never existed. Any issues of volume 2 (1972, also called the Amamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 2,8,9,11,12. That is, missing are 1,3-7, and 10. The same note about numbering applies. The only copy we have of Bexar Caver volume 6, number 6 (June 1976), which was spirit duplicated (purple Ditto), spent some time wet and is half illegible. A replacement would be nice. We are missing volume 7 number 3 (March 1977), if it exists. It may not, because number 2 ends with page 9 and number 4 starts with page 10. Copies or scans of missing material can be sent to the TSS or directly to me (Bill Mixon, 14045 North Green Hills Loop, Austin, Texas 78737). My scanning that one particular old Texas newsletter is sort of a demonstration project to encourage the TSS to do the same thing to other old Texas caving club newsletters, rare and not so rare. I don't expect to have time to do much more of that myself. I'm sure they'd love other volunteers. You need a flat-bed scanner and, hopefully, some image editing software to straighten and optimize the scans, as well as some program to assemble the pages back into issues or volumes. (Word can probably do that.) Considering the alternative, which is not getting them scanned at all, I imagine you wouldn't be under a lot of pressure to get it done in a hurry. Contact a TSS board member, not me (although I do have that long write-up on how I do it). -- Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 -0000 Issue 1414
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 - Issue 1414 Topics (messages 18835 through 18848): TSA Awards at TCR 18835 by: Allan B. Cobb Re: a new LED flashlight 18836 by: Andy Gluesenkamp news related / personal 18837 by: David 18838 by: Corky 18840 by: Nancy Weaver 18844 by: John Greer TSA vote 18839 by: Ron Ralph Karst easement question 18841 by: Jon Cradit Re: a cool caver-type project 18842 by: Stefan Creaser 18848 by: Gill Edigar old Bexar Cavers 18843 by: Mixon Bill TCR 2011 18845 by: Carl Kunath TCR Cooks thanks... 18846 by: Stefan Creaser 18847 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search
[Texascavers] clothes in the suspended jacuzzi
You can imagine how many bureaucrats they had to deal with to get permission for that, and it was no doubt on TV, etc. Give 'em a break, even though Europeans (even Brits) are a lot less prudish than (at least a noisy faction of) Americans.--Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] news related / personal
I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I see you are letting the wants/needs of the one outweigh the wants/needs of the many. I love democracy! On 10/17/2011 8:24 AM, David wrote: I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I don't have time to read most posts, and I certainly don't have time (days or weeks) to comb through the web trying to find everything that I want to know about, however peripherally. That's why God invented David and several other people who seem to spend their lives looking for things that the rest of us can access. For instance, there is a Spanish caver that posts about 200 things a week on cave archeology and deep cave discoveries. Without him (and David) I certainly wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the world. I can't tell David what to do with his life, especially in the face of constant and extreme criticism, or what the rest of this list wants to allow to be posted, but I certainly vote for vociferousness (that's a word!) over silence and ignorance. And that pertains to potential cave lights as well as just caving news in general. John - Original Message - From: Nancy Weaver To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I agree! David! Don't shut up :-) Barb Please note: message attached From: John Greer jgr...@greerservices.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:12:06 -0600 Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e9cc6a0d20f0b75942st05vuc---BeginMessage--- I don't have time to read most posts, and I certainly don't have time (days or weeks) to comb through the web trying to find everything that I want to know about, however peripherally. That's why God invented David and several other people who seem to spend their lives looking for things that the rest of us can access. For instance, there is a Spanish caver that posts about 200 things a week on cave archeology and deep cave discoveries. Without him (and David) I certainly wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the world. I can't tell David what to do with his life, especially in the face of constant and extreme criticism, or what the rest of this list wants to allow to be posted, but I certainly vote for vociferousness (that's a word!) over silence and ignorance. And that pertains to potential cave lights as well as just caving news in general. John - Original Message - From: Nancy Weaver To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com ---End Message--- - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 00:22:23 -0000 Issue 1415
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 00:22:23 - Issue 1415 Topics (messages 18849 through 18859): Re: a cool caver-type project 18849 by: Stefan Creaser 18850 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net 18851 by: Stefan Creaser 18852 by: Nico Escamilla 18853 by: Stefan Creaser 18855 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 18857 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net Re: TCR Cooks thanks... 18854 by: Heather Tucek clothes in the suspended jacuzzi 18856 by: Mixon Bill Midland reporter Telegram story 18858 by: Bill Bentley Re: news related / personal 18859 by: Barb Coons (Capocy) Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Have you tried woad, Stefan?Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill EdigarSent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PMTo: Mixon BillCc: Cavers TexasSubject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Not for many years… Hmm, I see a TCR theme forming :-) From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:08 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: gi...@att.net; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Have you tried woad, Stefan? Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes
[Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR
Hi all, I would like to share will all of you the Texas Cave Management Association award recipients. At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, Heather Tucek won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for her work with Whirlpool Cave Preserve. Mike Harris won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for his work at Robber Baron Cave. TCMA also presented a Lifetime Achievement Award to William Russell. William has been an active caver for more years than most of us remember. William has dug open and explored more caves than many of us have seen. William has worked hard in the area of cave conservation for many, many years. Williams contribution to caving in Texas has been immense. TCMA gave William this award as a thanks for all his contributions. Allan Cobb President, TCMA
Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR
Worthy recipients all!! Leslie Bell --- On Mon, 10/17/11, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote: From: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Subject: [Texascavers] TCMA Awards at TCR To: Texascavers@Texascavers.Com texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Monday, October 17, 2011, 6:38 AM Hi all, I would like to share will all of you the Texas Cave Management Association award recipients. At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, Heather Tucek won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for her work with Whirlpool Cave Preserve. Mike Harris won an Outstanding Volunteer Award for his work at Robber Baron Cave. TCMA also presented a Lifetime Achievement Award to William Russell. William has been an active caver for more years than most of us remember. William has dug open and explored more caves than many of us have seen. William has worked hard in the area of cave conservation for many, many years. Williams contribution to caving in Texas has been immense. TCMA gave William this award as a thanks for all his contributions. Allan Cobb President, TCMA
[Texascavers] Lost Chair
Ted Lee, Some one told me that you might have picked up a extra chair at Bills Steele's camp. Its dark blue and it has a foot rest that pops up when you lean back. If anyone knows about this , please let me know something. Happy Caving!!!\Mark Gee
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 04:14:03 -0000 Issue 1416
texascavers Digest 18 Oct 2011 04:14:03 - Issue 1416 Topics (messages 18860 through 18870): Re: TCR Cooks thanks... 18860 by: Mark Minton 18861 by: Aimee Beveridge 18862 by: Katherine Arens 18864 by: Leslie Bell 18866 by: Terry Holsinger 18867 by: Stefan Creaser 18868 by: Stefan Creaser 18869 by: TM Raines 18870 by: Stefan Creaser Re: TCMA Awards at TCR 18863 by: Leslie Bell Lost Chair 18865 by: mark gee Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Since I wasn't at TCR (although I wish I could have been), I didn't see the big feed. What are Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) and Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)? Sounds like a great feast - sorry I missed it. Mark Minton At 01:37 PM 10/17/2011, Stefan Creaser wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who havent seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boys Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell Green Salad (Jewel o t Eart Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) Rice and Peas (Cat o nine tails) Terry Holsinger Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrots Booty) Umm Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that hed like to help, but didnt want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, its more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks yall, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially,Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in
[SWR] Lincoln Caverns register
A register that had been in Lincoln Caverns at Fort Stanton Cave was bought out in a glass jar in the mid-1990s. Does anyone know what may have happened to it, or does anyone have it? Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
[Texascavers] TCR 2011
Congratulations and thanks to Allan Cobb and his host of unsung volunteers for yet another great Texas Caver Reunion. You folks do a great job! Special thanks this year to whomever followed though with providing name tags at registration. Wonderful! ===Carl Kunath
[Texascavers] Midland reporter Telegram story
http://www.mywesttexas.com/top_stories/article_d4caee7b-32d1-549a-8ba1-3508e9ea19af.html This is a few weeks old already but never too late to post... Most of you know long time caver Walter Feaster from Midland.
[PBSS] Midland reporter Telegram story
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RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
I for one am hoping we never have any high bridges near Texas Caving events! Stefan -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:53 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.comwrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/**affichjacc_264_e.htmlhttp://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon --**-- I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,**605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,**366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.—Sir Arthur Eddington --**-- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org --**--**- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscribe@**texascavers.comtexascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-help@texascavers.**comtexascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Have you tried woad, Stefan?Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill EdigarSent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PMTo: Mixon BillCc: Cavers TexasSubject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Not for many years… Hmm, I see a TCR theme forming :-) From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:08 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: gi...@att.net; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project Have you tried woad, Stefan? Oct 17, 2011 01:03:13 PM, stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
It's alright to get naked, its just not everybody's cup of tea, I for example hang out by the fire but dont even get in the tub cause I think its asking for an infection (did you see how the water looked last year? it was really grim) and I also heard stories about a girl who kept contributing to make the water warmer.. I like most of y'all and enjoy hanging out but getting in there is not for me, let alone naked. (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don’t get excluded in future for that reason. ** ** I think it’s the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it’s too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! ** ** Stefan ** ** *From:* bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Gill Edigar *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM *To:* Mixon Bill *Cc:* Cavers Texas *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project ** ** They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger ** ** On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon ** ** -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
RE: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
It's not really 'tea', more like caver soup ;-) --Stefan From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:pitboun...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:10 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: Gill Edigar; Mixon Bill; Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project It's alright to get naked, its just not everybody's cup of tea, I for example hang out by the fire but dont even get in the tub cause I think its asking for an infection (did you see how the water looked last year? it was really grim) and I also heard stories about a girl who kept contributing to make the water warmer.. I like most of y'all and enjoy hanging out but getting in there is not for me, let alone naked. (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: Going naked in the hot tub it just not for me. I hope I don't get excluded in future for that reason. I think it's the British in me, we leave nudity to the mainland Europeans; and it's too dam cold to go naked back home anyway! Stefan From: bgillegi...@gmail.commailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.commailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 12:54 PM To: Mixon Bill Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project They pretty much have the same problem with hot tubbers as they do in California: people wearing clothes in the hot tub. In fact, I notice that Pete's hot tub has been getting more and more Californicated lately. We need to do something to instill a little less modesty in people. What's with all this conservatism--throwing away your rights to go naked? --Ediger On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.commailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote: Mike Pugliese called my attention to this: http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.html Makes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- Mixon -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
Hah! Nico was wandering about Saturday night with a tall bottle of the only thing known to kill cooties (or at least make you not care). Seriously, I tried tubbing nekkid and I was told I would have to buy another wristband for my friend. No really, I jumped in nekkid and came out wearing a black wool sweater. What's with that? Honestly, I think I see enough of most of you as it is. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com (yes I know they put chlorine in it but still) Nico
Re: [Texascavers] a cool caver-type project
This is great!Oct 14, 2011 10:53:11 AM, bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:Mike Pugliese called my attention to this:http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/html/affichjacc_264_e.htmlMakes the hot and cold tubs at the TCR look simple in comparison. I suppose I shouldn't be giving Pete ideas... -- MixonI believe there are15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555,468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185,631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur EddingtonYou may "reply" to the address this messagecame from, but for long-term use, save:Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.eduAMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven't seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together... Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper - coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) - Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy's Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) - Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek - Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell - Green Salad (Jewel o' t' Eart' Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) - Rice and Peas (Cat o' nine tails) Terry Holsinger - Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** - Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger - Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones - Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge - Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot's Booty) Umm - Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) - Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he'd like to help, but didn't want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it's more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes - Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y'all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
I want to also thank all the cooks and servers. Y'all did a great job! Allan Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Since I wasn't at TCR (although I wish I could have been), I didn't see the big feed. What are Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) and Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)? Sounds like a great feast - sorry I missed it. Mark Minton At 01:37 PM 10/17/2011, Stefan Creaser wrote: All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who havent seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boys Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell Green Salad (Jewel o t Eart Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) Rice and Peas (Cat o nine tails) Terry Holsinger Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrots Booty) Umm Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that hed like to help, but didnt want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, its more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks yall, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially,Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 trog...@cavechat.org
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
It was a good crew and everyone kicked ass.
Thanks to all!
Leslie Bell
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And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!!
On 17 October 2011 12:41, Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.com wrote:
I want to also thank all the cooks and servers. Y'all did a great job!
Allan
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On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.com wrote:
All,
The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity
of one person and the hard work of two others.
Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!!
And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking
it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or
not, it was graphic!).
Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all
the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the
description cards of the dishes :-)
And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and
cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together…
Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight)
Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s
Delight)
Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks)
Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad)
Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad)
Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails)
Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered)
Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave)
Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken)
Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer)
Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty)
Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise)
Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons)
(** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to
do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!)
And to their many helpers for
cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc.
And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated
than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final
prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance.
Thanks y’all, and very much so from me.
Stefan
(Chief Cook and Bottle Washer).
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Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
On a related subject, I think we could use a big clock so those in the kitchen have some idea as to what time it is. ;) Terry H. On 10/17/2011 8:35 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: And maybe a serving time to go with the lovely and thematic menus? - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Terry Holsinger tr...@sprynet.com wrote: On a related subject, I think we could use a big clock so those in the kitchen have some idea as to what time it is. ;) Terry H. On 10/17/2011 8:35 PM, Katherine Arens wrote: And maybe a serving time to go with the lovely and thematic menus? -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Can anyone tell me how the veggie recipe was, by the time I ate it was long gone?! I hear the fish was excellent too, but that's not my bag. I was at the front of the line for a bit until Don Arburn took over, after that I went down the line a few times and everyone had a band. I did see the couple of people you saw Aimee (but I was too busy to do anything about it), I know who they are and hopefully they'll be making a suitable donation to a caving charity in the very near future (copy of the receipts would be appreciated ;-). Overall i'm glad the majority of people know what it takes to make sure everyone has a good time! Even thou I arrived later than I wanted, and worked more that planned, I still had a great time (perhaps more than the other years i've been involved - probably due to TerryH). Thanks to those who pull TCR together, and to Dave 'Cave' McClung for manning the bar (those who missed out on that missed out on some great drinks! - next year y'all). I have a theme in mind for next year already, planning begins! Stefan Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Aimee Beveridge aim...@yahoo.commailto:aim...@yahoo.com wrote: I want to thank all the Chief Cookies for making it all go so smoothly, especially, Mr. Holsinger for the super squash recipe. Yum! It was a great feed. The menu is a very nice addition. ASS did a good job helping. One suggestion for next year: get someone parked in the front of the line to sit and watch to make sure everyone has their bracelets on. There were a few (eating with the cooks no less) that had not paid. Anyway, there will always be those that feel entitled I guess. Or, maybe, just maybe they really wanted to pay but the registration gurus had stepped away. Aimee From: Heather Tucek trog...@cavechat.orgmailto:trog...@cavechat.org To: Allan B. Cobb a...@oztotl.commailto:a...@oztotl.com Cc: Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.commailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com; Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks... And thank you for everyone who stayed afterwards and cleaned up!!! All, The big feed on Saturday would not have happened without the extreme generosity of one person and the hard work of two others. Please give a *big* thanks to Don Arburn for donating the beef!!! And another to Vico Jones for butchering the steer, AND the pig (and cooking it). Sorry to those who haven’t seen the cow butchering video on facebook (or not, it was graphic!). Finally to Terry Holsinger who did the majority of the legwork in getting all the food bits together. I hope you all saw the Pirate menu or read the description cards of the dishes :-) And of course please thank your cooks for slaving all day over hot burners and cutting boards, and all the time before hand in putting it together… Denise Prendergast and Jocie Hooper – coconut bars (Pieces of Eight) Matt Zappitello (w/Crystal LeBoeuf) – Pineapple Upsidedown cake (Cabin Boy’s Delight) Aimee Beveridge (w/?) – Cup cakes (Kraken Snacks) Heather Tucek – Fruit Salad (Seadog Salad) Leslie Bell – Green Salad (Jewel o’ t’ Eart’ Salad) Terry Holsinger (w/Sandi Calhoun) – Rice and Peas (Cat o’ nine tails) Terry Holsinger – Beans Tomatos (Drawn and Quartered) Galen Falgout** – Escoveech Fish (Shore Leave) Terry Holsinger – Caribbean Style Chicken (Scurvy Island Chicken) Vico Jones – Whole Roasted Pig (The Last Mutineer) Aimee Beveridge – Spicy Punkin Curry (Parrot’s Booty) Umm – Caribbean Beef Stew (Scalawags Surprise) Galen Falgout** (w/Heather Tucek) – Spinners (Rotten Doubloons) (** Galen said to me a few weeks ago that he’d like to help, but didn’t want to do/own a whole dish. So he ended up doing two!! We appreciate that!) And to their many helpers for cutting/slicing/chopping/stirring/frying/turning/opening/etc. And to ASS for serving it all (and pulling that together, it’s more complicated than you think!!), and for generally being awesome for doing a lot of final prep and help for various dishes – Smoked beef and sausage slices, for instance. Thanks y’all, and very much so from me. Stefan (Chief Cook and Bottle Washer). -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Go find out! -Heather Tuček UT Grotto NSS 59660 (512) 773-1348 mailto:trog...@cavechat.orgtrog...@cavechat.orgmailto:trog...@cavechat.org -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Speaking of Food, You know we've been teasing those Aggies for years, but I think this breaking news is complete vindication and justification for their activity. Making Me Hungry, Terry PS any ideas Vico?? Rats, mice, foxes, owls, pigeons, moles, snakes and pheasants: the makings of a pleasant episode of Winnie the Pooh, an autumnal diorama of woodland life at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia -- or, for one 44-year-old UK man, 30 years worth of dinner. Jonathan McGowan, a professional taxidermist, started eating roadkill at age 14, when he found a dead adder on the side of the road and decided to cook it, reports the Daily Mail. That first snake wasn't very tasty, but he was intrigued. Over time, McGowan came to see the ecological and culinary benefits of eating only meat he found dead on the side of the road. (It seems his forager-instincts were limited to the flesh: he would buy fruits, vegetables, grains, spice and so forth like any other person.) McGowan detailed the logistics of his diet in a rollicking essay in The Guardian last spring. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.html
Re: [Texascavers] TCR Cooks thanks...
Someone actually suggested, over dinner, roadkill as a theme one year. It's certainly possible. Vico reminded me that I wouldn't stop for the armadillo crossing the road on the way back from butchering the beef. I maintain he looked too cute and was out for a stroll in the cool air after the rain, it would have been harsh. And that the back of the car was *entirely* full of coolers full of beef... Sent from my iPad On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:05 PM, TM Raines tmrai...@amcs.orgmailto:tmrai...@amcs.org wrote: On Oct 17, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote: As far as I remember serving time has *always* been 6pm, apart from when we miss it (which we only did significantly the first year I was in charge). Cheers, Stefan Speaking of Food, You know we've been teasing those Aggies for years, but I think this breaking news is complete vindication and justification for their activity. Making Me Hungry, Terry PS any ideas Vico?? Rats, mice, foxes, owls, pigeons, moles, snakes and pheasants: the makings of a pleasant episode of Winnie the Pooh, an autumnal diorama of woodland life at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia -- or, for one 44-year-old UK manhttp://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-1629-uk-man-jonathan-mcgowan-lives-on-roadkill-for-30-years-never-buy-meat.html, 30 years worth of dinner. Jonathan McGowanhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2048527/Owl-curry-adder-butter-stir-fried-craneflies-Meet-man-survived-diet-roadkill-30-YEARS.html, a professional taxidermist, started eating roadkill at age 14, when he found a dead adderhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipera_berus on the side of the road and decided to cook it, reports the Daily Mail. That first snake wasn't very tasty, but he was intrigued. Over time, McGowan came to see the ecological and culinary benefitshttp://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-1629-uk-man-jonathan-mcgowan-lives-on-roadkill-for-30-years-never-buy-meat.html of eating only meat he found dead on the side of the road. (It seems his forager-instincts were limited to the flesh: he would buy fruits, vegetables, grains, spice and so forth like any other person.) McGowan detailed the logistics of his diethttp://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/26/i-eat-roadkill in a rollicking essay in The Guardian last spring. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/17/jonathan-mcgowan-roadkill_n_1016108.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
Re: [Texascavers] an Austin karst related question
Watch this movie before you start asking questions. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unforeseen/Oct 17, 2011 12:15:22 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Not being from Austin and living in a city without the politics ofkarst, I am not familiar at allwith the issues that go on there. I am curious though, as tohow the various government entities and policies overlap and whosepolicy is above the other.I think what I am getting at below is, that if a landowner in the areaor a caver wanted to get involved in( or just knowledgeable about ) the karst politics there, where dothey get the Cliff Notes version,or "Karst Politics for Dummies," etc.For example, there is an entity called the Barton Springs EdwardAquifer Conservation District( BSEACD ) and a policy called the Balcones Canyonlands Preserve ( BCCP ).The BCCP is just an acronym for a conservation planof the USFWS. Right ?I presume that the lands managed by the BCCP fall within thejurisdictional boundaries of the BSEACD.Is that correct ?But the BCCP deals with all natural aspects of the lands being managed by itscooperating partners, not just groundwater issues, but is just westernpart of TravisCounty. Right ?And,do other agencies such as Texas Commission of Environmental Quality (TCEQ ) haveany authority the ones above ? or any others ?Can anyone put it all in layman's terms ?Also,I am curious as to which gov't official, who is a proven friend ofkarst, has the highest positionon the totem pole. Maybe that isn't the right wording. Theperson considered most respectablein the gov't that cavers have connections with ?David LocklearRef:http://www.tceq.texas.gov/field/eapp/apps.htmlhttp://www.ci.austin.tx.us/water/wildland/downloads/appendixg-balconescanyonlandspreservekarstmonitoring.pdfhttp://www.bseacd.org/about-us/framework-policies/http://urbanwildlife2011.tpwd.state.tx.us/https://www.facebook.com/pages/Urban-Wildlife-2011/117128901633633-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 -0000 Issue 1413
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 11:38:31 - Issue 1413 Topics (messages 18823 through 18834): Re: a new LED flashlight 18823 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18824 by: John Greer 18826 by: George-Paul Richmann TCMA volunteers receive BS/EACD award : 18825 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com 18830 by: Rick Corbell 18831 by: Matt Turner Re: Photos to come I hope 18827 by: Butch Fralia 18828 by: Bill Bentley TCR 2011 Wrapup 18829 by: Allan B. Cobb an Austin karst related question 18832 by: David 18833 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net TCMA Awards at TCR 18834 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- While I certainly agree with the first comments that anyone who does not actively cave in my particular interest (vertical pits or dark zone rock art) 22.74 times a week in my area of interest (whatever that may be) should not be allowed to post to a caving list on the subject of cave backup lights or other similarly nonuseful subjects, I also agree with Atkin's reply that such extraneous posts -- e.g., life-saving lighting systems, people permanently lost in Indiana, details of annual caving meetings, training sessions of various kinds, or Russian caves -- should not be censored from this list. Even with no brains left at all -- or interest in most of what's posted on internet commentary -- most of us want the choice to decide for ourselves, however unpopular that may be nowadays. We also use batch select + Delete, or Mail Message Rules to auto delete certain people (I wish) or topics. You don't have to read what you don't want. This is certainly off-topic for cave info! John Greer - Original Message - From: jerryat...@aol.com To: gprichm...@gmail.com ; dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try
[Texascavers] TSA Awards at TCR
At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb
Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight
I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP
[Texascavers] TSA vote
Members of the Texas Speleological Association, If you were not be able to attend TCR last week-end but wish to vote in the general election of Texas Speleological Association officers for 2011, you need to write me immediately with your best USPS address to receive a ballot. Official ballots will be mailed out today Monday, October 18, one to each individual or student membership and two to each family membership. Please promptly return the card (postmarked by Wednesday, October 26) as I will do the final count on Saturday, October 30. You will need to provide an envelope, stamp and then mail back to me. And please only vote once for President. Remember that all candidates must be NSS members, so inquire if you have a write-in vote. And please write or give me a call if you have questions. If you know of a member who does not subscribe to “texascavers,” please pass on this information for me. Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair 13101 Wild Turkey Drive Manchaca, TX 78652 ronra...@austin.rr.com (512) 280-9648 Sample Ballot (for the Sunday, October 17, 2010 election) □Chairman Mark Alman NSS # 43400 □Chairman Don Arburn NSS # 56822 □Vice Chairman Ellie Watson NSS # 60439 □Treasurer Michael Cicherski NSS # 36668 □Secretary Denise Prendergast NSS # 48638 □Floor nomination There were no nominations from the floor □Write in vote
[Texascavers] Karst easement question
I am looking for information on a small parcel of land in Williamson County, Cedar Park area. It is about a half acre close to Avery Ranch Blvd and South Bell Blvd, part of the Fenway Park Subdivision I think. If anyone has any information please respond to me directly, off of “Texascaver”. Jon Jon Cradit RS., PG. Environmental Coordinator EDWARDS AQUIFER A U T H O R I T Y 1615 NORTH ST. MARY'S STREET SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 78215 www.edwardsaquifer.org 210-222-2204 Desk, 210-477-8523 jcra...@edwardsaquifer.org
[Texascavers] old Bexar Cavers
The Bexar Cavers that the TSS does _not_ have, even as photocopies, are Any issues of volume 1 (1971, called the Alamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 3,4,5,8,9,10. That is, we're probably missing 1,2,6,7,11,12, assuming issues in fact came out every month. The issues were not actually numbered in print. The issues we have are numbered based on the month of the meeting announcement. The numbering may be incorrect if some of the missing issues never existed. Any issues of volume 2 (1972, also called the Amamo Area Chapter Newsletter) other than 2,8,9,11,12. That is, missing are 1,3-7, and 10. The same note about numbering applies. The only copy we have of Bexar Caver volume 6, number 6 (June 1976), which was spirit duplicated (purple Ditto), spent some time wet and is half illegible. A replacement would be nice. We are missing volume 7 number 3 (March 1977), if it exists. It may not, because number 2 ends with page 9 and number 4 starts with page 10. Copies or scans of missing material can be sent to the TSS or directly to me (Bill Mixon, 14045 North Green Hills Loop, Austin, Texas 78737). My scanning that one particular old Texas newsletter is sort of a demonstration project to encourage the TSS to do the same thing to other old Texas caving club newsletters, rare and not so rare. I don't expect to have time to do much more of that myself. I'm sure they'd love other volunteers. You need a flat-bed scanner and, hopefully, some image editing software to straighten and optimize the scans, as well as some program to assemble the pages back into issues or volumes. (Word can probably do that.) Considering the alternative, which is not getting them scanned at all, I imagine you wouldn't be under a lot of pressure to get it done in a hurry. Contact a TSS board member, not me (although I do have that long write-up on how I do it). -- Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 -0000 Issue 1414
texascavers Digest 17 Oct 2011 17:53:35 - Issue 1414 Topics (messages 18835 through 18848): TSA Awards at TCR 18835 by: Allan B. Cobb Re: a new LED flashlight 18836 by: Andy Gluesenkamp news related / personal 18837 by: David 18838 by: Corky 18840 by: Nancy Weaver 18844 by: John Greer TSA vote 18839 by: Ron Ralph Karst easement question 18841 by: Jon Cradit Re: a cool caver-type project 18842 by: Stefan Creaser 18848 by: Gill Edigar old Bexar Cavers 18843 by: Mixon Bill TCR 2011 18845 by: Carl Kunath TCR Cooks thanks... 18846 by: Stefan Creaser 18847 by: Allan B. Cobb Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- At the Texas Cavers Reunion this year, the TSA recognized three new cavers who have been caving for less than 2 years. These new cavers have shown great enthusiasm to their fellow grotto members. This year, three grottos submitted names of new cavers for the Chuck Stuehm Award. The recipient receives a free year of membership in the TSA. This year, the three recipients were: Bexar Grotto (San Antonio, TX) - Joe Shaertl DFW Grotto (Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX) - Steve Webb GHG Grotto (Greater Houston, TX) - Andy Edward Congratulations and hope see y’all underground for many years! Allan Cobb---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I agree with Jerry. How about every time someone complains about DL on CT, they have to provide an interesting post as a sort of reader's time fine? DL has been posting such things on CT as long as there has been limestone in TX. It is like the weather: get used to it. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Sat, 10/15/11, jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com wrote: From: jerryat...@aol.com jerryat...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] a new LED flashlight To: gprichm...@gmail.com, dlocklea...@gmail.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Saturday, October 15, 2011, 10:50 PM While I might not agree with all of the emails that appear on CaveTex, I certainly can't fault David for posting information on new models or cheap deals on LED-related lights. They might not be of particular interest to me that day, but it's not really that much trouble to delete them. What I do find troubling is singling David out for not caving as often as others (or at least the perception that a real caver actually goes underground XX times per month). Of the several hundred cavers that supposedly reside in Texas, most do not go caving on any regular basis. Some of them, like David, also post on CaveTex. And some of their postings can also be annoying to those that have narrow interests and/or small hearts. So let's give old David a break. It seems easier to me to hit the delete key than try to stab him in the eye. Jerry. In a message dated 10/15/2011 4:10:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, gprichm...@gmail.com writes: Cheap LED lights are not novel or new. I really want to stay tied into the Texas community via Cave Text. This is only possible if I don't need to delete five of your emails a day that are only tangentially related to caving. OT emails are fine as the exception, but when they become the rule (and happen many times per a day) the list serve suffers. Same goes for the GHG list serve. Actually, I think a new rule, for you personally, would be to have 10 emails per every actual caving trip(undergroundnot TCR type stuff). I would put up with more of your emails if I knew you were actually getting underground. For example, you would need to go caving every weekend for the next ten years to get you to even. If you were to do that, I am sure your emails would be much more interesting, and most importantly, pertinent to the caving community. Cheers, GP ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search
[Texascavers] clothes in the suspended jacuzzi
You can imagine how many bureaucrats they had to deal with to get permission for that, and it was no doubt on TV, etc. Give 'em a break, even though Europeans (even Brits) are a lot less prudish than (at least a noisy faction of) Americans.--Mixon I believe there are 15,747,724,136,275,002,577,605,653,961,181,555, 468,044,717,914,527,116,709,366,231,425,076,185, 631,031,296 protons in the universe and the same number of electrons.— Sir Arthur Eddington You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] news related / personal
I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I see you are letting the wants/needs of the one outweigh the wants/needs of the many. I love democracy! On 10/17/2011 8:24 AM, David wrote: I often scour the web looking for the latest newsworthy items related to caving and try to post them to CaveTex the second that they become available.I have been doing that for several years, off and on, but especially during times when work is slow. In an effort to compromise with those of you who find my post irrelevant or even detestable, I am going to make a minor change to this effort: I will not report anything that is on the major news networks, or Caving News ( Facebook ) or on the NSS forums, or Onlinecavers.com, or on various Texas grotto webpages or their Facebook pages.If you really want to keep abreast of the latest news, you will just have to go search for it yourself. If a story ( like the current one in the news which hasn't been posted yet ), falls on the border-line of that rule, I will wait 24 hours before posting it, to give another caver a chance to get the warm fuzzy feeling from hitting the Send button, and enjoy the feedback they get from the positive cavers and also the backlash from the negative cavers, and the ridicule/humiliation from the TSP. I will try my best to resist the urge to criticize other's post ( probably going to epic failure at that one ). There is so much to talk about related to caving that is new.The internet is saturated with new videos, and new LED lights, and new things that help the environment ( which may help caves directly or indirectly ), and I feel people are either too scared to post something new, or they are too busy, or some other reason that they don't post something interesting to read.I like to be enlightened. I am testing a new LED light I bought last week, but I am not going to tell you anything about it.You will either have to ask, or go to my sites I have mentioned before.I will not report anything from the major LED light forums, unless it is revolutionary. If you wish to watch the latest caving videos on YouTube, just go to YouTube, and type cave and the month, year in the search box, and you will find new videos. To find the foreign videos, which are often amazing, you will have to be more persistent. I will try my best to only mention new videos that are noteworthy. I have said this several times before, but I try to make an effort to write something that is new or interesting when I post something. I feel CaveTex needs more interesting post. The recent wave of post last week made my Blackberry beep dozens of times, and some of the post could have been handled differently, or I just need to figure out how to make it not beep when a CaveTex post arrives. You can set Google News to search for words like:caving, cave, speleo, stalagmite, bats, cave-diving, etc, and it will notify you of new news stories. So I will not post anything I find on Google News, unless it is something that is noteworthy. I hope that CaveTex improves and continues to provide new information to cavers. I feel that if you went back and took a look at the thousands of CaveTex postings over the years, that some creative person could probably single out 10 of being worth re-printing or organizing into some readable article to put on the web somewhere.A majority of the old post would be obsolete for that purpose or not relevant anymore.That person could probably be nominated for a speleo-historian award. David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal
I don't have time to read most posts, and I certainly don't have time (days or weeks) to comb through the web trying to find everything that I want to know about, however peripherally. That's why God invented David and several other people who seem to spend their lives looking for things that the rest of us can access. For instance, there is a Spanish caver that posts about 200 things a week on cave archeology and deep cave discoveries. Without him (and David) I certainly wouldn't have a clue what's going on in the world. I can't tell David what to do with his life, especially in the face of constant and extreme criticism, or what the rest of this list wants to allow to be posted, but I certainly vote for vociferousness (that's a word!) over silence and ignorance. And that pertains to potential cave lights as well as just caving news in general. John - Original Message - From: Nancy Weaver To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] news related / personal David - I for one appreciate your posts and encourage you to continue. I realize its difficult not to take criticism personally, however my observation is that those critical people generally have nothing of value to say and so often ignore their own rules about whats OK for cavetex that it provides my daily laugh. heres another vote for your interesting posts Nancy - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
