Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
Travis I suggest you read the whole thread if you think for a minute I was
making light of Christianity.
Quite the contrary, I am a believer and a minister. I just don't think that
David meant anyone any distress. I think he made a parody of the subject in
part to see what kind of reaction the community at large would have.
As for the appropriateness of discussing it on this forum, I say given the
time of year it was never more appropriate. If some feel it is burdensome
for them to be exposed then I would urge them to simply delete the message.
It's not like anyone is trying to turn the forum into something it is not.
That's what I meant by lighten up. For those who were offended by David's
little story I would ask them when wasthe last time they displayed less
couth then someone else thought appropriate. Ironic the subject is
persecution and the reaction is persecution.
That's my last word on the matter. God bless our community and watch over
each of us in the caves.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 11:03 PM  wrote:

> It is a free country yes, true.  This caving forum never ceases to amaze
> me though.  I don’t understand why it seems so fun to make fun of other
> people’s beliefs on this -caving- forum.  To those who don’t believe, these
> sort of gests can be brushed off as mentioned below ‘lighten up’.  But to
> those who do, it is a deep seeded offense that can’t be brushed off.  The
> people on this email thread are you fellow cavers and friends.  I guess it
> is ok to offend and make fun of your friends?
>
>
>
> I know, I know. Lighten up its just a joke right?  I know that there are
> several cavers who agree that this is not a joking matter who just choose
> not to get in a flame war over email.  I have no intentions on getting in
> one either.  I just had to ask, one more time, again, for the basics
> elements of respect for your peers..
>
>
>
> Anyways, this has been a trend for years and frankly, its something I
> don’t need filling my inbox and causing strife on Good Friday.  I’m out
> y’all, peace…
>
>
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Texascavers  *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael
> Gibbons
> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 9:40 PM
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history
>
>
>
> It ain't religion boss. Haven't been to church in 40 plus years. Its a way
> of life.
>
> Sorry it makes you uncomfortable but it is no reason to chastise David.
>
> For the record it's a free country.
>
> I like David's weird ass outlooks. Face it we're all a half a bubble left
> of plumb. Lighten up a little did the rabbit crap in your Easter egg.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:24 PM JAMES JASEK  wrote:
>
> CaveTex is a cave related site not a place to discuss religion of politics
>
> JJ
>
> > On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar.
> Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was
> an orgy of decadence and debauchery.
> > Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
> > It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the
> King of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can
> not harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The
> death of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life.
> This is the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many
> think . The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in
> our heart and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual
> being as did Christ.
> > To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
> > He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
> > The Passion.
> > That is the meaning of this season.
> > David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a
> stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
> > What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the
> Word.
> > It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
> > It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable
> sin. It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna
> keep out of the here after either.
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"  wrote:
> > pretty amusing.  Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread travis 
It is a free country yes, true.  This caving forum never ceases to amaze me 
though.  I don’t understand why it seems so fun to make fun of other people’s 
beliefs on this -caving- forum.  To those who don’t believe, these sort of 
gests can be brushed off as mentioned below ‘lighten up’.  But to those who do, 
it is a deep seeded offense that can’t be brushed off.  The people on this 
email thread are you fellow cavers and friends.  I guess it is ok to offend and 
make fun of your friends?  

 

I know, I know. Lighten up its just a joke right?  I know that there are 
several cavers who agree that this is not a joking matter who just choose not 
to get in a flame war over email.  I have no intentions on getting in one 
either.  I just had to ask, one more time, again, for the basics elements of 
respect for your peers..

 

Anyways, this has been a trend for years and frankly, its something I don’t 
need filling my inbox and causing strife on Good Friday.  I’m out y’all, peace…

 

Travis

 

 

 

 

From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Michael 
Gibbons
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 9:40 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

 

It ain't religion boss. Haven't been to church in 40 plus years. Its a way of 
life.

Sorry it makes you uncomfortable but it is no reason to chastise David.

For the record it's a free country.

I like David's weird ass outlooks. Face it we're all a half a bubble left of 
plumb. Lighten up a little did the rabbit crap in your Easter egg. 

 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:24 PM JAMES JASEK  > wrote:

CaveTex is a cave related site not a place to discuss religion of politics

JJ

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com 
>  > wrote:
>
> Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar. 
> Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was an 
> orgy of decadence and debauchery.
> Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
> It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the King 
> of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can not 
> harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The death 
> of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life. This is 
> the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many think . 
> The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in our heart 
> and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual being as did 
> Christ.
> To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
> He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
> The Passion.
> That is the meaning of this season.
> David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a 
> stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
> What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the Word.
> It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
> It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable sin. 
> It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna keep 
> out of the here after either.
>
> On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"   > wrote:
> pretty amusing.  Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread R D Milhollin 
Politics of religion?
 

On Friday, March 30, 2018, 9:24:46 PM CDT, JAMES JASEK 
 wrote:  
 
 CaveTex is a cave related site not a place to discuss religion of politics

JJ

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar. 
> Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was an 
> orgy of decadence and debauchery.
> Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
> It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the King 
> of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can not 
> harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The death 
> of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life. This is 
> the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many think . 
> The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in our heart 
> and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual being as did 
> Christ.
> To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
> He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
> The Passion.
> That is the meaning of this season.
> David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a 
> stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
> What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the Word.
> It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
> It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable sin. 
> It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna keep 
> out of the here after either.
> 
> On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"  wrote:
> pretty amusing.  Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread mark gee 
 You left out alot David. It was Jesus Christ . And he arose from the dead so 
that sinners like you and I could have eternal life. If we repent of our sins 
and except him as our savior. Through Gods grace we are saved. 
On Friday, March 30, 2018, 2:50:51 PM CDT, David  
wrote:  
 
 Just for fun - please enjoy and don't get your knickers in a wad

On this day, ( plus or minus a few weeks ) about 1,983 years ago ( plus or 
minus 200 years )
An alleged man allegedly named Joseph of Arimathea, went to an alleged 
shopkeeper and allegedly purchased
"The Shroud of Turin."
He allegedly wrapped a dead guy up that he found in the The Shroud of Turin and 
allegedly placed him in a tiny cave.   ( Allegedly, this tiny cave was just a 
carved out hole in the rock that Joseph of Arimathea had allegedly made for his 
own corpse, as he allegedly sensed the banshees were coming for him soon. 

Then Joseph allegedly disappeared for allegedly 60 hours ( presumably to 
partake in a ritual, possibly related to Passover or spring harvest related to 
barley ( a.k.a. beer  ),
and then Joseph of Arimathea allegedly returned to the alleged cave for some 
unknown reason and then allegedly found the Shroud of Turin empty with an 
alleged large blood stain on it exactly matching a photo-copy the alleged dude 
that he thought he had wrapped in it.
Then after allegedly stashing away all his fresh barley juice in another secret 
hole, he then allegedly ran 10 kilometers back to town to wake up the dead 
man's mom and maybe even the dead man's wife, but they too were also suffering 
the divine headache related to drinking too much barley juice.
They all allegedly claimed that never found the dead guy's body, and swore a 
pact to never tell anyone that they all had had way way too much barley juice 
that night.
This all has no relation to the Turing Computer.   That is another holiday.
Did I leave out anything ?
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
It ain't religion boss. Haven't been to church in 40 plus years. Its a way
of life.
Sorry it makes you uncomfortable but it is no reason to chastise David.
For the record it's a free country.
I like David's weird ass outlooks. Face it we're all a half a bubble left
of plumb. Lighten up a little did the rabbit crap in your Easter egg.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:24 PM JAMES JASEK  wrote:

> CaveTex is a cave related site not a place to discuss religion of politics
>
> JJ
>
> > On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar.
> Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was
> an orgy of decadence and debauchery.
> > Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
> > It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the
> King of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can
> not harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The
> death of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life.
> This is the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many
> think . The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in
> our heart and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual
> being as did Christ.
> > To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
> > He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
> > The Passion.
> > That is the meaning of this season.
> > David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a
> stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
> > What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the
> Word.
> > It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
> > It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable
> sin. It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna
> keep out of the here after either.
> >
> > On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"  wrote:
> > pretty amusing.  Nancy
> >
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Re: [Texascavers] my last post

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
Not pretty beautiful. Fucking beautiful.


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:24 PM David  wrote:

> Charles,
>
> there was no reason to drag religion into my story about The Shroud of
> Turin having been in a cave.  And there was no reason to call me one of
> those atheist.
>
> I doubt that I am an atheist.  I am just really weird.  I have seen things
> - unexplainable things.  I have had 8 close calls with death - 4 in a
> cave.  I have already purchased my plot and superstitiously sense the
> banshees are closely following me - sometime very closely like buzzards,
> especially when I smell my caver friends smoking strange smelling tiny
> cigarettes or that big glass tube thing.
>
> Sometimes, maybe right now, I feel I might even be like actor Bruce Willis
> in "The Sixth Sense" - not knowing that I am really just an apparition,  or
> worse, that all of us are just apparitions tied into The Matrix.
>
> I lean towards Ganesha, as his story is the most logical of all the
> hybrid-human-god stories, except that I seriously doubt he was a real
> pachyderm.
>
> I have prayed to God, Allah and Buddha that they all send my soul to
> whereever they sent my hell-raising Grandpa, but to let me go caving to the
> caves on my Bucket List first.
>
> David Locklear
>
> P.S.  I come from a Puritan-like family - all fanactical Protestants -
> mostly Baptist and Methodist, and wife being of the Virgin of Guadalupe
> Cult, and an ex-girlfriend that was Mormon ( she said that she would not do
> me unless I went to the tabernacle first, and so, after nearly 4 years of
> divine f*rnification, that one hour of suffering at the tabernacle
> enlightened me )
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Re: [Texascavers] my last post

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
That was beautiful.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:24 PM David  wrote:

> Charles,
>
> there was no reason to drag religion into my story about The Shroud of
> Turin having been in a cave.  And there was no reason to call me one of
> those atheist.
>
> I doubt that I am an atheist.  I am just really weird.  I have seen things
> - unexplainable things.  I have had 8 close calls with death - 4 in a
> cave.  I have already purchased my plot and superstitiously sense the
> banshees are closely following me - sometime very closely like buzzards,
> especially when I smell my caver friends smoking strange smelling tiny
> cigarettes or that big glass tube thing.
>
> Sometimes, maybe right now, I feel I might even be like actor Bruce Willis
> in "The Sixth Sense" - not knowing that I am really just an apparition,  or
> worse, that all of us are just apparitions tied into The Matrix.
>
> I lean towards Ganesha, as his story is the most logical of all the
> hybrid-human-god stories, except that I seriously doubt he was a real
> pachyderm.
>
> I have prayed to God, Allah and Buddha that they all send my soul to
> whereever they sent my hell-raising Grandpa, but to let me go caving to the
> caves on my Bucket List first.
>
> David Locklear
>
> P.S.  I come from a Puritan-like family - all fanactical Protestants -
> mostly Baptist and Methodist, and wife being of the Virgin of Guadalupe
> Cult, and an ex-girlfriend that was Mormon ( she said that she would not do
> me unless I went to the tabernacle first, and so, after nearly 4 years of
> divine f*rnification, that one hour of suffering at the tabernacle
> enlightened me )
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread JAMES JASEK 
CaveTex is a cave related site not a place to discuss religion of politics

JJ

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:14 PM, Michael Gibbons <6453...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar. 
> Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was an 
> orgy of decadence and debauchery.
> Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
> It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the King 
> of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can not 
> harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The death 
> of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life. This is 
> the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many think . 
> The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in our heart 
> and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual being as did 
> Christ.
> To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
> He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
> The Passion.
> That is the meaning of this season.
> David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a 
> stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
> What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the Word.
> It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
> It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable sin. 
> It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna keep 
> out of the here after either.
> 
> On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"  wrote:
> pretty amusing.  Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] my last post

2018-03-30 Thread David 
Charles,

there was no reason to drag religion into my story about The Shroud of
Turin having been in a cave.  And there was no reason to call me one of
those atheist.

I doubt that I am an atheist.  I am just really weird.  I have seen things
- unexplainable things.  I have had 8 close calls with death - 4 in a
cave.  I have already purchased my plot and superstitiously sense the
banshees are closely following me - sometime very closely like buzzards,
especially when I smell my caver friends smoking strange smelling tiny
cigarettes or that big glass tube thing.

Sometimes, maybe right now, I feel I might even be like actor Bruce Willis
in "The Sixth Sense" - not knowing that I am really just an apparition,  or
worse, that all of us are just apparitions tied into The Matrix.

I lean towards Ganesha, as his story is the most logical of all the
hybrid-human-god stories, except that I seriously doubt he was a real
pachyderm.

I have prayed to God, Allah and Buddha that they all send my soul to
whereever they sent my hell-raising Grandpa, but to let me go caving to the
caves on my Bucket List first.

David Locklear

P.S.  I come from a Puritan-like family - all fanactical Protestants -
mostly Baptist and Methodist, and wife being of the Virgin of Guadalupe
Cult, and an ex-girlfriend that was Mormon ( she said that she would not do
me unless I went to the tabernacle first, and so, after nearly 4 years of
divine f*rnification, that one hour of suffering at the tabernacle
enlightened me )
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
Too set the record straight,  Easter is a pagan event known as Eshtar.
Celebration of fertility and all things new that the Spring brings. It was
an orgy of decadence and debauchery.
Many Christian events took the dates of pagan celebrations.
It is Palm Sunday to the Christian which begins the celebration of the King
of man. Passover for His children who have His mark. The deceiver can not
harm those who believe upon Him. This speaks of the second death. The death
of the soul. Those who believe upon Me shall have everlasting life. This is
the promise and the power of Yeshua. He did not cheat death as many think .
The death of this body is of no concern, we who hold the Savior in our
heart and mind merely vacate this clay pot and return to our spiritual
being as did Christ.
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
He so loved His children that He gave His only begotten Son.
The Passion.
That is the meaning of this season.
David, I'm kind of a different preacher. If that rendition of yours is a
stepping off point (as I interpreted) I will work with that.
What I gleaned from your tale was a veiled query into the meaning of the
Word.
It's ok to believe dude, it's ok to tell the story how you understand it.
It is in bad taste to make a parody of it but it ain't the unpardonable
sin. It ain't gonna get you gold trim on your linen gown but it ain't gonna
keep out of the here after either.

On Mar 30, 2018 7:18 PM, "Nancy Weaver"  wrote:

pretty amusing.  Nancy

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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread JAMES JASEK 
Thank you Charlie. David is a Sh*t head for posting this crap on a cave site. I 
had just rejoined Cave Tex and now I am considering dropping off again

JJ

> On Mar 30, 2018, at 7:10 PM, Charles Loving  wrote:
> 
> Well David  Locklear that was about as negative a post as I have read. You 
> need to stay clear of religion. That was most insulting to anyone who 
> believes in Christ. If you want to be an atheist then say so but don't try to 
> make fun of other people's faith. It wasn't funny at all, and it made fun of 
> a Christian tradition. Easter is the holiest tradition and most important 
> celebration of Christianity religion. Mr theologist Locklear without the 
> three days there might not be Christianity. 
> 
> It just ,goes to prove a few things about the likes of David Locklear. You 
> are not a theologist in any way means or form. So please just dig a hole and 
> crawl in it or go and hide under a rock. That was out and out shameful.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:50 PM, David  wrote:
> Just for fun - please enjoy and don't get your knickers in a wad
> 
> 
> On this day, ( plus or minus a few weeks ) about 1,983 years ago ( plus or 
> minus 200 years )
> 
> An alleged man allegedly named Joseph of Arimathea, went to an alleged 
> shopkeeper and allegedly purchased
> 
> "The Shroud of Turin."
> 
> He allegedly wrapped a dead guy up that he found in the The Shroud of Turin 
> and allegedly placed him in a tiny cave.   ( Allegedly, this tiny cave was 
> just a carved out hole in the rock that Joseph of Arimathea had allegedly 
> made for his own corpse, as he allegedly sensed the banshees were coming for 
> him soon. 
> 
> Then Joseph allegedly disappeared for allegedly 60 hours ( presumably to 
> partake in a ritual, possibly related to Passover or spring harvest related 
> to barley ( a.k.a. beer  ),
> 
> and then Joseph of Arimathea allegedly returned to the alleged cave for some 
> unknown reason and then allegedly found the Shroud of Turin empty with an 
> alleged large blood stain on it exactly matching a photo-copy the alleged 
> dude that he thought he had wrapped in it.
> 
> Then after allegedly stashing away all his fresh barley juice in another 
> secret hole, he then allegedly ran 10 kilometers back to town to wake up the 
> dead man's mom and maybe even the dead man's wife, but they too were also 
> suffering the divine headache related to drinking too much barley juice.
> 
> They all allegedly claimed that never found the dead guy's body, and swore a 
> pact to never tell anyone that they all had had way way too much barley juice 
> that night.
> 
> This all has no relation to the Turing Computer.   That is another holiday.
> 
> Did I leave out anything ?
> 
> David Locklear
> Speleo-theologist
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Nancy Weaver 
pretty amusing.  Nancy
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Charles Loving 
*Well David  Locklear that was about as negative a post as I have read. You
need to stay clear of religion. That was most insulting to anyone who
believes in Christ. If you want to be an atheist then say so but don't try
to make fun of other people's faith. It wasn't funny at all, and it made
fun of a Christian tradition. Easter is the holiest tradition and most
important celebration of Christianity religion. Mr theologist Locklear
without the three days there might not be Christianity. *

*It just ,goes to prove a few things about the likes of David Locklear. You
are not a theologist in any way means or form. So please just dig a hole
and crawl in it or go and hide under a rock. That was out and out shameful.*

On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 2:50 PM, David  wrote:

> Just for fun - please enjoy and don't get your knickers in a wad
>
>
> On this day, ( plus or minus a few weeks ) about 1,983 years ago ( plus or
> minus 200 years )
>
> An alleged man allegedly named Joseph of Arimathea, went to an alleged
> shopkeeper and allegedly purchased
>
> "The Shroud of Turin."
>
> He allegedly wrapped a dead guy up that he found in the The Shroud of
> Turin and allegedly placed him in a tiny cave.   ( Allegedly, this tiny
> cave was just a carved out hole in the rock that Joseph of Arimathea had
> allegedly made for his own corpse, as he allegedly sensed the banshees were
> coming for him soon.
>
> Then Joseph allegedly disappeared for allegedly 60 hours ( presumably to
> partake in a ritual, possibly related to Passover or spring harvest related
> to barley ( a.k.a. beer  ),
>
> and then Joseph of Arimathea allegedly returned to the alleged cave for
> some unknown reason and then allegedly found the Shroud of Turin empty with
> an alleged large blood stain on it exactly matching a photo-copy the
> alleged dude that he thought he had wrapped in it.
>
> Then after allegedly stashing away all his fresh barley juice in another
> secret hole, he then allegedly ran 10 kilometers back to town to wake up
> the dead man's mom and maybe even the dead man's wife, but they too were
> also suffering the divine headache related to drinking too much barley
> juice.
>
> They all allegedly claimed that never found the dead guy's body, and swore
> a pact to never tell anyone that they all had had way way too much barley
> juice that night.
>
> This all has no relation to the Turing Computer.   That is another holiday.
>
> Did I leave out anything ?
>
> David Locklear
> Speleo-theologist
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[Texascavers] Terry Saythers' HAWAII 70 Party

2018-03-30 Thread Cathy Winfrey 
Only 19 years and 53 weeks ago, there was Terry's Hawaii 50 party.

Now.its time for *MORE*  Hawaiian shirts and grass skirts!

WHEN April 21st, 2018
WHERE  3106 Clawson Rd, in South Austin
TIME: 4-10pm

There will be BBQ !
Bring a chair and your favorite side dish or liquid refreshment

RSVP to debbiestuart...@yahoo.com

Have questions? -like how many candles to bring?
*call*  Debbie at 512-627-2556
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Re: [Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
Yes you did.
You left out that the alleged dead guy predicted His undeadness and Joseph
(as instructed) with help, moved the stone door (too heavy for one undead
guy to move) and found the shroud. There were plenty of witnesses to the
closing and opening of the tomb.
Mary and her entourage had already drank plenty of coffee as they too knew
that it was time to sober up from the wake and check out His undeadnesses
empty chamber and get ready to be interrogated and then tear add home.
What makes people think that a people with only 13 letters in their
alphabet can perpetuate such a fraud as the life of Christ.
These people walked everywhere they went so need didn't travel very fast.
No way they could have faked Jesus. And why would they? What did they get
out of it. Lets see, whipped, imprisoned,  ostrisized, ridiculed, spat
upon. Lots to want to raise this dude up for.


On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 2:50 PM David  wrote:

> Just for fun - please enjoy and don't get your knickers in a wad
>
>
> On this day, ( plus or minus a few weeks ) about 1,983 years ago ( plus or
> minus 200 years )
>
> An alleged man allegedly named Joseph of Arimathea, went to an alleged
> shopkeeper and allegedly purchased
>
> "The Shroud of Turin."
>
> He allegedly wrapped a dead guy up that he found in the The Shroud of
> Turin and allegedly placed him in a tiny cave.   ( Allegedly, this tiny
> cave was just a carved out hole in the rock that Joseph of Arimathea had
> allegedly made for his own corpse, as he allegedly sensed the banshees were
> coming for him soon.
>
> Then Joseph allegedly disappeared for allegedly 60 hours ( presumably to
> partake in a ritual, possibly related to Passover or spring harvest related
> to barley ( a.k.a. beer  ),
>
> and then Joseph of Arimathea allegedly returned to the alleged cave for
> some unknown reason and then allegedly found the Shroud of Turin empty with
> an alleged large blood stain on it exactly matching a photo-copy the
> alleged dude that he thought he had wrapped in it.
>
> Then after allegedly stashing away all his fresh barley juice in another
> secret hole, he then allegedly ran 10 kilometers back to town to wake up
> the dead man's mom and maybe even the dead man's wife, but they too were
> also suffering the divine headache related to drinking too much barley
> juice.
>
> They all allegedly claimed that never found the dead guy's body, and swore
> a pact to never tell anyone that they all had had way way too much barley
> juice that night.
>
> This all has no relation to the Turing Computer.   That is another holiday.
>
> Did I leave out anything ?
>
> David Locklear
> Speleo-theologist
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[Texascavers] This day in speleo-history

2018-03-30 Thread David 
Just for fun - please enjoy and don't get your knickers in a wad


On this day, ( plus or minus a few weeks ) about 1,983 years ago ( plus or
minus 200 years )

An alleged man allegedly named Joseph of Arimathea, went to an alleged
shopkeeper and allegedly purchased

"The Shroud of Turin."

He allegedly wrapped a dead guy up that he found in the The Shroud of Turin
and allegedly placed him in a tiny cave.   ( Allegedly, this tiny cave was
just a carved out hole in the rock that Joseph of Arimathea had allegedly
made for his own corpse, as he allegedly sensed the banshees were coming
for him soon.

Then Joseph allegedly disappeared for allegedly 60 hours ( presumably to
partake in a ritual, possibly related to Passover or spring harvest related
to barley ( a.k.a. beer  ),

and then Joseph of Arimathea allegedly returned to the alleged cave for
some unknown reason and then allegedly found the Shroud of Turin empty with
an alleged large blood stain on it exactly matching a photo-copy the
alleged dude that he thought he had wrapped in it.

Then after allegedly stashing away all his fresh barley juice in another
secret hole, he then allegedly ran 10 kilometers back to town to wake up
the dead man's mom and maybe even the dead man's wife, but they too were
also suffering the divine headache related to drinking too much barley
juice.

They all allegedly claimed that never found the dead guy's body, and swore
a pact to never tell anyone that they all had had way way too much barley
juice that night.

This all has no relation to the Turing Computer.   That is another holiday.

Did I leave out anything ?

David Locklear
Speleo-theologist
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Re: [Texascavers] Group Photo for TSA Spring Convention 2018 is here!

2018-03-30 Thread Michael Gibbons 
Growing up is over rated

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018, 4:22 AM Galen Falgout  wrote:

> Bennett you have done such a great job with the tas photos over the past
> years. I just want to publicly announce that. And also when I grow up I
> hope to be half the photograph you are!
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:40 PM Bennett Lee 
> wrote:
>
>> Group photo for the TSA Spring Convention 2018 is now available!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1840224496028879.1073741880.11240401264=1=769f0ff2bd
>>
>> http://www.bennettlee.com/Photos/Caving/TSASpringConvention2018.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that I had to use one of the normal shots that we took first because
>> the silly one we took at the end just didn’t work out.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Bennett
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