[tw] Re: (TW5) html href to tiddler not working?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Remi,
 
Thanks for detailing that...

1. I used the element because the documentation said i could.
>
2. Yes: tiddlywiki.com, tiddler: HTML in WikiText 
> . 


It feels like the HTML in WikiText 
 documentation 
could be enhanced by...

   - a) encouraging users to always use TiddlyWiki's wikitext markup first
  - => advising the use of html elements for situations where wikitext 
  is either unsuitable or unmaintainable, e.g. a complex table
   - b) hinting at what html elements are mostly used for
  - => constructing output in widget templates and macros
  - => for things that TiddlyWiki has no dedicated markup
   
 3. I looked at the widget, but it came across a bit complicated for the 
> functionality I wanted.


I guess that goes hand in hand with a) above.

Best wishes,

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[tw] [TW5] How to get rid of "Drop here (or use the 'Escape' key to cancel)" green ribbon?

[Linus Johnsson]

Dear all,

This may seem a trivial matter, but I find it annoying nonetheless. I've 
never been able to actually get rid of that green ribbon after accidentally 
dragging text around. Pressing "Escape" does not help. I'm using Firefox. 
Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

Best regards,
Linus

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Evolena]

Le jeudi 17 septembre 2015 05:00:45 UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv a écrit :
>
> I'm currently using unordered lists on my tiddlers for linking to 
> "sub-types", which of course are also listed in my TOC in the SideBar. 
> While I'm building my knowledgebase wiki, having the static links on the 
> tiddler is handy because I create the new tiddlers for the sub-types by 
> clicking on redlinks (oh how I wish TW would identify missing pages with a 
> red link, rather than italics, but I must remember that TW != MW). But once 
> I have my wiki in a more complete state, I'll probably go back and make 
> those static lists dynamic using the macrocall you linked to above.
>

Have you checked the Missing tab (sub-tab in the More tab) in the Sidebar? 

You can also modify the CSS for missing link (there doesn"t seem to have a 
specific color palette for that).

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[tw] Re: [TW5] (Tobias Beer) calc macro does not handle zero properly

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Evan,
 

> I invite you to re-write your code more elegantly than I have with my 
> limited understanding.
>

Tbh, as you can see from my question above,
my understanding, more often than not, likewise is rather limited. ^_^

For now, I am happy to see you have helped fix this
and I will remember something about returning strings in js macros
...for reasons yet to be demystified.

With what purpose would you wish (some part) of this little macro to be 
rewritten?

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Re: [tw] Re: Are the downloadable TWs from tw.com assembled at download or pre-made?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Erwan,

I think a local version of your aggregator has quite more potential than 
just being the basis for a great community resource.

With a basic ui, even in TW, mayybe some extension to TiddlyDesktop, users 
could define feed collections in the context of which they add channels, 
essentially other TiddlyWikis, e.g. from a predefined list like the ones 
indexed by community search, or add new channels, or delete / deactivate 
others to ones interests.

Then all you need to know is the right commandline, perhaps even OS 
integration via some addon, that lets you pull updated contents onto your 
local machine, at the desired location corresponding to the collection, 
e.g. "dev resources", "my school project", custom to your preferences. No 
need for a server at all. All you want and get is your custom TiddlyWiki 
"news feed" with each "news collection" being the result of your 
aggregators output.

One step would be to levererage TiddlyWiki's save or export mechanisms to 
export the collection / subscription lists and preferences so that a given 
commandline or other executable environment can pick it up and construct 
the output.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:00:45 AM UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> I made the change (that Andrew linked to) in my dev wiki first, to see 
> what would happen. I got a message saying...
>
> *You are about to edit a ShadowTiddler. Any changes will override the 
>> default system making future upgrades non-trivial. Are you sure you want to 
>> edit "$:/core/save/all"?*
>>
>
> So let me make sure I understand what this means. Whenever I edit a system 
> tiddler (shadow tiddler?) I'm going to need to document what I've done, so 
> that when a new version of TW is rolled out, I can go back through my list 
> of personalisations and re-apply them to the latest version. Does that 
> about sum it up? 
>

No in the contrary. What the message says is: Your content always wins. So 
if you update the core. Your changes stay. ... It's only to make sure, that 
you know, if a future core adds new functionality to a shadow tiddler, your 
tiddler / TW may not have this feature, since "Your content wins". ... 

This message was very important since the TW beta phase, since the core 
functionality, UI features, and so on changed with every release. ... We 
had a lot of problems users reporting, that the new functions don't work 
with their TW, because they did overwrite the core tiddlers. 

As Mat wrote. If you delete an overwritten shadow tiddler, the core will 
take over again. ... and that's one of the killer features of TW. If you 
mess up something, returning back to a working state is easy. 

 

> Sorry, but, WTF?! I shouldn't have to alter the whole underlying system 
> just to make a simple interface change. I'm going to end up with a huge 
> list of personalisations to my wiki, and have to manage it, curate it, and 
> reapply each one with copy/paste whenever a new version of TW becomes 
> available. It would be far simpler to just go ahead and personalise my own 
> copy of TW 5.1.9 and never upgrade it again! I assume thats why I see so 
> many older copies of TW floating around online still, because its easier to 
> keep personalisations than to upgrade, is that about right? I may be 
> over-reacting to this, I often do. I have no experience with upgrading TW 
> yet, so please let me know that what I imagine from that edit warning is 
> not as bad as it seems.
>

Calm down! As I wrote above. Your content wins. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] (Tobias Beer) calc macro does not handle zero properly

[Evan Balster]

There's some path of execution where the value of "result" is still a 
number on the last line -- if I had to guess, due to the fixed-point 
conversion.  Older versions of TiddlyWiki, including 5.1.7, must forcefully 
convert non-string types returned from macros, while newer versions do not. 
 And fortunately my .toString() has no effect on a value which is already a 
string.

I invite you to re-write your code more elegantly than I have with my 
limited understanding.

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 01:29:48 UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
>
> Thanks for both reporting and fixing. I have updated calc...
>
> The issue seems to arise from zero making it to the return statement as a 
>> number. 
>>
> I can surmise earlier versions of TiddlyWiki had a check for this case and 
>> a string conversion. 
>>
> But this does not occur here.
>>
>
> I fail to understand due to what string conversion is of need.
> Can anyone explain? ...perhaps also what has changed in the core and why?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Mat]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:00:45 AM UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Thanks Andrew, Mat and Greg for all the replies. I'm obviously not the 
> first person to ask this question, and I did try to search the forums first 
> before asking, but I couldn't find anything that addressed just the state 
> of the TOC, as Mat alludes to above.
>
> I made the change (that Andrew linked to) in my dev wiki first, to see 
> what would happen. I got a message saying...
>
> *You are about to edit a ShadowTiddler. Any changes will override the 
>> default system making future upgrades non-trivial. Are you sure you want to 
>> edit "$:/core/save/all"?*
>>
>
> So let me make sure I understand what this means. Whenever I edit a system 
> tiddler (shadow tiddler?) I'm going to need to document what I've done, so 
> that when a new version of TW is rolled out, I can go back through my list 
> of personalisations and re-apply them to the latest version. 
>

It's not quite that problematic and there is a very clever feature to this 
that I think you'll appreciate: 

When you overwrite a shadow tid, the original is kept! So if you delete 
your modified version, the original pops into place immediately. Try to 
delete a shadow tiddler and you'll see you can't. 

Upgrades do not overwrite your modified tiddler. Instead it is the 
underlying original that is updated. So, if you in the future delete your 
modified version, you get the latest update of the original.

That said, if you modify a shadow tiddler of course anything relying on 
that one gets implicitly affected. Just like anything else, if you 
"improve" your car by exchanging one of it tires, then of course it 
implicitly affects a lot of other things. 

Still, TW is extremely configurable. One can argue that the specific OP you 
bring up should be "brought closer" to the end user by having the toc state 
fetch it's value from some intentionally user manipulated field, like is 
done with e.g "Settings" in the Controlpanel. 


*@Greg*: The link to Tobi's tiddler about States and Temporary Tiddlers 
>  comes with this dire 
> warning:
>
> *Caution: Defining the wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose 
>> data!*
>>
>
> As I'm still very new to all this, and don't really know the structure of 
> the underlying TW system well, I'm probably better off avoiding that one 
> for now. But thanks anyway Greg.
>

Well, don't do you experimenting using your original TW and take a lot of 
copies. The warning states the obvious; be careful if you tamper with the 
filter that states what to save when the user clicks save.

 

> And thanks *@Mat* for your wonderful feedback, which I have posted 
>  to the 
> Google+ 
> TiddlyWiki community 
> . I'm glad 
> that my questions and observations are useful. Sorry if I seem like a 
> grumpy old man sometimes, but that's me in real life, haha. 
>


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Shortkeys for Talkytalky

[Tobias Beer]

I noticed something odd in Chrome which seems to be a browser bug.

When you put it into fullscreen mode and then also go fullscreen on any 
video, the toggle-fullscreen button on the video won't work and ending 
fullscreen mode will only end it for the page but not for the video.

On a related note, I don't think the down-pointing-arrow in the top-left 
corner is particularly good ui. First, it tends to bring up the fullscreen 
notifier. Secondly, the content we go to is below, so that's where the 
button should be... at the bottom. I would much rather prefer an initially 
transparent button / bar at the bottom, at full width, which only displays 
on-hover.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Andrew,

As a sidenote, not wanting to discourage you from exploring plugins,
I would advise you to consider not publishing this as a plugin:

New field inline list @ t5a 


Your desired end result which I find a good choice for the field popup
can be achieved simply by adding the necessary css to a custom stylesheet 
tiddler .

Imho, using a plugin for this type of modification
blows the concept of plugins out of proportion.

If you desire to further discuss this, perhaps open another thread.
I just answered here as we were in the context of your short and sweet 
reference to
Autocollapse TOC @ t5a 

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Spangenhelm]

Hi, i'm trying to understand the purpose of this but my mind refuse lol: is 
there a place where we can see this in action or could you provide a 
screenshot please ?
I have tried to copy what you have published above but without success..

Thank you

Ps: congratulations too for the poster, looks nice and clean !

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to get rid of "Drop here (or use the 'Escape' key to cancel)" green ribbon?

[Evan Balster]

It's horribly annoying.  With the latest versions, you can click and drag 
on a link to any tiddler and the green ribbon will disappear because the 
dragged item is non-importable.


On Thursday, 17 September 2015 01:20:37 UTC-5, Linus Johnsson wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> This may seem a trivial matter, but I find it annoying nonetheless. I've 
> never been able to actually get rid of that green ribbon after accidentally 
> dragging text around. Pressing "Escape" does not help. I'm using Firefox. 
> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Best regards,
> Linus
>

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[tw] TiddlyWiki as a password store

[Tobias Beer]

I was wondering if using a combination of encryption and maybe TiddlySpot
was safe enough for recreating something like keepass 
 or mitto  with TiddlyWiki (minus any 1-click-login).

Thoughts?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:00:45 AM UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> *@Greg*: The link to Tobi's tiddler about States and Temporary Tiddlers 
>  comes with this dire 
> warning:
>
> *Caution: Defining the wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose 
>> data!*
>>
>
> As I'm still very new to all this, and don't really know the structure of 
> the underlying TW system well, I'm probably better off avoiding that one 
> for now. But thanks anyway Greg.
>

That's the downside of warnings :) They may prevent experimentation.  

With TW a user can change the UI and functionality in a way, that is not 
possible and allowed in other software. ... Our users can do what ever they 
want. And very often they do :) ... Sometimes they mess up some stuff. But 
fixing it, is as easy as delete the changed shadow tiddler, so the default 
(core) tiddler can take over again. ... 

*Everything is fine -> as long as you make some backups, prior to your 
experiments :)*

--- some more background info.

With TW we basically have 3 types of tiddlers. 

 - standard tiddlers .. user content
 - system tiddlers .. start with $: .. hidden in standard lists
 - shadow tiddlers. .. defined by the core and plugins. ... you can 
overwrite them, but if you delete your changed tiddler, the will be 
magically restored. 

If you 
 - open eg: http://tiddlywiki.com/#HelloThere and 
 - view the tiddler (i) info panel. It can be reached from the tiddler 
toolbar see the more dropdown.
 - select the Advanced tab
 - it shows: 


*Shadow Status*
>
> The tiddler HelloThere  is not a 
> shadow tiddler
>


 - open http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FAcknowledgements

 - (i) info: Advanced   shows


*Shadow Status*
>
> The tiddler $:/Acknowledgements 
>  is a shadow tiddler
>
> It is defined in the plugin $:/core 
>

 - if you edit the tiddler it shows the "overwrite" warning

 - save

 - (i) info: Advanced   shows


*Shadow Status*
>
> The tiddler $:/Acknowledgements 
>  is a shadow tiddler
>
> It is defined in the plugin $:/core  
>
> It is overridden by an ordinary tiddler <- this info is new. 
>

So you know, if you delete or rename this tiddler, the default core/shadow 
tiddler will take over again. 

have fun! 
mario




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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki as a password store

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 10:12:52 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I was wondering if using a combination of encryption and maybe TiddlySpot
> was safe enough for recreating something like keepass 
>  or mitto  with TiddlyWiki 
> (minus any 1-click-login).
>
> Thoughts?
>

The encryption may be safe enough, but the workflow isn't. 

eg: 
 - keepass removes plain text passwords from the system memory after 10 
seconds. 
 - If you decrypt TW all the stuff is plain text in the browser. If you 
copy a password it will stay in memory. 
- switching the browser window into the background, will not activate 
the encryption agina ... 

eg: 
 - autofill passwords with keepass has a special mechanism to avoid "key 
locking" 
 - if you copy / paste a PW with TW "key locking" will be trivial 

So in no way I personally would use TW as a cloud based password store. Not 
because of the javascript based encryption software but because of the 
unsafe workflow. 

just my thoughts
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:12:07 PM UTC+12, PMario wrote:
>
> That's the downside of warnings :) They may prevent experimentation.  
>

Oh, I'm all in favor of hacking up my stuff, don't worry about that. I 
maintain a completely separate instance of TW specifically for 
experimentation before I make a change to my main "production" wiki, and 
both "dev" and "live" are backed up regularly. I was just expressing my 
doubts about my own competence with TW so far, because I haven't 
experimented enough with it as yet to be confident that I understand the 
implications of what I'm doing yet. Gimme time to get to know TW a little 
more before I attempt something that is labeled as "could break something 
serious", haha.

Also, as much as I'm spending time learning the finer points of TW, I'm 
also working slavishly to enter raw content into my "live" version of TW, 
the plain content that doesn't involve any coding, just text, formatting, 
categories and links. I'm balancing my time between that and 
experimentation, beginning to explore the possibilities and limitations of 
TW.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to get rid of "Drop here (or use the 'Escape' key to cancel)" green ribbon?

[Linus Johnsson]

That does the trick! Thank you!

Linus

2015-09-17 8:33 GMT+02:00 Evan Balster :

> It's horribly annoying.  With the latest versions, you can click and drag
> on a link to any tiddler and the green ribbon will disappear because the
> dragged item is non-importable.
>
>
> On Thursday, 17 September 2015 01:20:37 UTC-5, Linus Johnsson wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This may seem a trivial matter, but I find it annoying nonetheless. I've
>> never been able to actually get rid of that green ribbon after accidentally
>> dragging text around. Pressing "Escape" does not help. I'm using Firefox.
>> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Linus
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[tw] edit/display fields

[UBi]

Hello,

is there a way to use tiddler fields as additional textarea fields? I would 
like to use it for instruction tiddlers like this:

field "text":
  Instruction specific bla bla.
  Here's the SQL:
  {{!!sql}}
  And here's the result:
  {{!!result}}
  blabla

field "sql":
  select
col1,col2
  from
table1
  where
col1='99';

field "result":
  |col1|col2|
  |99|1.0|
  |99|2.5|

It already works, but
- editing "sql" and "result" in a small input field is tedious
- the transcluded field contents lack formatting. I would like to input and 
display the "sql" field content as mono spaced code.

Any ideas?

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[tw] Re: Make Recent show only newly created tiddlers (remove recently edited)

[Tobias Beer]

I have added instructions here...

Tab For Recently Created Tiddlers @ tb5 


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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hello Spangenhelm, the method explained here is a way to virtually have 
multiple tag fields on the same tiddler.
It simulates the option of having two or more distinct fields in the same 
tiddler that behave in the same way that the default tag editor does, with 
the benefits it brings, like the auto complete, the list of available tags, 
the tag-pill display etc.
It also creates a separation between a few "set of tags" with different 
purposes, for example in my software database I find it desirable to tag my 
software with stuff like "image Editor" "3D Modeling" or "Note Taking", I 
also like to tag it by platform "Windows" "Mac" Linux" etc.
These tags could all live in the same field, or I could optionally separate 
them as if they are completely independent sets of tags each with its own 
field both while reading or editing the tiddler. Same goes for file 
formats, instead of having dozens of file formats "polluting" my regular 
tag field I can have them neatly separated into it's own field.

Check a screenshot f the example below:

In edit mode:




And in view mode





Hope this makes it clearer



BTW, glad you like the poster thanks! :)


















On Thursday, 17 September 2015 09:13:50 UTC+1, Spangenhelm wrote:
>
> Hi, i'm trying to understand the purpose of this but my mind refuse lol: 
> is there a place where we can see this in action or could you provide a 
> screenshot please ?
> I have tried to copy what you have published above but without success..
>
> Thank you
>
> Ps: congratulations too for the poster, looks nice and clean !
>

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[tw] Re: edit/display fields

[Tobias Beer]

Here's an issue recently created by Spangenheim for this imho very 
meaningful change:

*#1932 Feature Request: Replacing the "editTemplate" fields from input to 
textarea*
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1932

Perhaps hop over there and +1.

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Tobias Beer]

Using prefixes looks a bit redundant.

I would rather give every platform-type a tag *platform* and then construct 
the filter based off of that, e.g

[tag[platform]tagging[]]

[tag[output-format]tagging[]]

...and then only use mac, linux windows ...or the corresponding mime types 
as titles.

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

You are right Tobias, nice one! That would indeed be easier in this case.
I guess I just did it blindly for consistency/continuity, since the formats 
used the prefix method because of the distinction between Input and Output

I'll probably rework those since it's still WIP, there is still no separate 
editing for platforms yet.

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 12:51:43 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Duarte,
>
> Using prefixes looks a bit redundant.
>
> I would rather give every platform-type a tag *platform* and then 
> construct the filter based off of that, e.g
>
> [tag[platform]tagging[]]
>
> [tag[output-format]tagging[]]
>
> ...and then only use mac, linux windows ...or the corresponding mime types 
> as titles.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: Twin tiddlers

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks, I fixed it.

About time I integrated a little contact form.

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Tobias Beer]

>
> I guess I just did it blindly for consistency/continuity, since the 
> formats used the prefix method because of the distinction between Input and 
> Output
>

...which really begs for using dedicated fields, though, imho. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 10:26:20 AM UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Thanks for the replies everyone.
>
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:12:07 PM UTC+12, PMario wrote:
>>
>> That's the downside of warnings :) They may prevent experimentation.  
>>
>
> Oh, I'm all in favor of hacking up my stuff, don't worry about that. I 
> maintain a completely separate instance of TW specifically for 
> experimentation before I make a change to my main "production" wiki, and 
> both "dev" and "live" are backed up regularly. I was just expressing my 
> doubts about my own competence with TW so far, because I haven't 
> experimented enough with it as yet to be confident that I understand the 
> implications of what I'm doing yet. Gimme time to get to know TW a little 
> more before I attempt something that is labeled as "could break something 
> serious", haha.
>

IMO that's the right way :)
 

> Also, as much as I'm spending time learning the finer points of TW, I'm 
> also working slavishly to enter raw content into my "live" version of TW, 
> the plain content that doesn't involve any coding, just text, formatting, 
> categories and links. I'm balancing my time between that and 
> experimentation, beginning to explore the possibilities and limitations of 
> TW.
>

Yea, 

The "hackability" of TiddlyWiki seduces many users to go deeper and deeper 
into customisation, instead of "just using" it :) ... You have to have 
content first, to see how categorisation makes sense. So refactoring the 
structure is very common with TW since the "big big" picture may be hidden 
at the beginning. 

So keep on asking questions and try to document, what you've learned. As I 
wrote in an other thread. Newbie feedback is valuable but the "newbie" 
status goes away very fast ;)

-mario

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki as a password store

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:08:53 AM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Some good points. So the scores are roughly...
>
> Keepass 10 : TiddlyWiki 1
>
> May I ask what you use?
>

KeePass2 .. It works well with windows and ubuntu. So I can use the same 
password store file for both environments. ... The only problem atm is my 
mobile device :) It uses ubuntu touch. 


There is also one more thing. You wrote: "and maybe TiddlySpot"

TiddlySpot uses basic http with username, password authentication at the 
moment. This mechanism is all plain text. 

So logging on to tiddlyspot on a public wifi is an invitation for a "man in 
the middle " 
attack. 

As I wrote. Most of the time the encryption mechanisms are not the 
vulnerable elements. 

Users and their "bad habbits" are one element. eg: using the same and easy 
to guess passwords for way to many sites. 

... and ... the annual cost and complexity to enable https:// is the second 
element, why the web is still an insecure place. 

--- OT

https://letsencrypt.org/ may be an interesting approach to create free 
certs. ... But the last time I visited the project page, they where not 
finished yet. .. So time to have a new look ;)

-m

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[tw] Re: Make Recent show only newly created tiddlers (remove recently edited)

[Tobias Beer]

Now I am thoroughly confused, Mat.
Why would you be giving tiddlers a "recent" field?

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[tw] Re: Are the downloadable TWs from tw.com assembled at download or pre-made?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:53:58 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> - thank you for your answers! (And I will from now on write twcom! Good 
> point Mario)
>

imo use tiddlywiki.com .. not relly much more to type, but that's the name
-m


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki as a password store

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks Mario,

Some good points. So the scores are roughly...

Keepass 10 : TiddlyWiki 1

May I ask what you use?


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki as a password store

[Spangenhelm]

Hi guys! Good question: I guess you are right about the security risks for 
a cloud-based use (i effectively use tw for storing my credentials but 
offline only so far, and it is clearly missing a autofill feature though!)

Btw Mario you said you were using ubuntu touch on your mobile? So do i ! 
What brand is your phone? Bq? mine is (Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition) and i'm 
pretty happy with it altough there is no easy to sync it with the cloud 
except via google.. Or have you find a way to do so? Webdav/Cardav and 
things like that do not seems to be available yet afaik...

Tchuss

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

For the formats input and output tags it won't work, because for example a 
tiddler named JPEG could belong to input or output or both on the same 
tiddler.

On second though using tags for platforms has undesirable effects, like 
adding a new platform will not show immediately, since you have to manually 
create the tiddler and tag it with "Platform"

Separate fields would definitely be the way to go, but it is beyond my 
skill level

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 13:01:14 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I guess I just did it blindly for consistency/continuity, since the 
>> formats used the prefix method because of the distinction between Input and 
>> Output
>>
>
> ...which really begs for using dedicated fields, though, imho. 
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Tobias Beer]

Tbh, I never fancied the method of AutoTaggerPlugin 
 and I can't see why I would.

It is good to be specific, declarative... not to use automation where it 
might just yield false positives and, as you pointed out youself, no way to 
undo the tagging when the content changes.

#Hashtags are far more adequate, and @Mario, sure they can be almost at the 
start of a line, given there is at least one blank preceding it... even if 
Markdown could think of it as an indentated list.

Another, much more powerful option would be what linkify 
 did for TWc.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Auto Tag remake

[Tobias Beer]

Allow me to raise a bit of a critical voice on this functionality. I have 
never been convinced of it in TWc as it comes with too much ambiguity and 
false positives.

In short, just because I write about some "meeting" doesn't mean that I 
want a tiddler to be tagged as a "meeting".

If you want to perform text search, use search ...but this seems to just 
greatly clutter tagfields and have them used where they might just not be 
relevant, and actually disruptive.

I'd much rather favor auto-linkification 
 or hashtags 
 rather than being auto-smart about 
something as important as tags, which are essential to how I do 
categorization, only to then wonder what happened.

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[tw] Re: Make Recent show only newly created tiddlers (remove recently edited)

[Mat]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 1:29:16 PM UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Now I am thoroughly confused, Mat.
> Why would you be giving tiddlers a "recent" field?
>

Because I use two "Recent tabs", one public and one only for me (that is 
filtered out before I upload). The latter is the normal list but the former 
only shows specific tiddlers and - most importantly - in the order I 
specify using the "recent" field. I am presuming that visitors are peeking 
at the Recent tab to get an idea what is new - but the thing is, I 
modify/tweak my articles but often the tweaks are not worth calling 
attention to in the way that a "last modified" list does.  If an old 
article is worthy to get to top from my modification, I update the recent 
field (via a quick update button that is also not uploaded to the public 
TWaddle).

Overall I'm hoping to eventually find a better workflow, but so far this is 
the best I've got which means I write a lot of stuff, tag them Unfinished, 
until they are ready for publication when I also add the "recent" date. 
When there is enough finished stuff for me to feel ok, my millions of 
readers cannot wait another day without new wisdom, I publish.

<:-)


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[tw] Re: edit/display fields

[Mat]

<$edit field="yourfield" class="tc-edit-texteditor" tiddler=... />

<:-)



On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 12:01:44 PM UTC+2, UBi wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> is there a way to use tiddler fields as additional textarea fields? I 
> would like to use it for instruction tiddlers like this:
>
> field "text":
>   Instruction specific bla bla.
>   Here's the SQL:
>   {{!!sql}}
>   And here's the result:
>   {{!!result}}
>   blabla
>
> field "sql":
>   select
> col1,col2
>   from
> table1
>   where
> col1='99';
>
> field "result":
>   |col1|col2|
>   |99|1.0|
>   |99|2.5|
>
> It already works, but
> - editing "sql" and "result" in a small input field is tedious
> - the transcluded field contents lack formatting. I would like to input 
> and display the "sql" field content as mono spaced code.
>
> Any ideas?
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] (Tobias Beer) calc macro does not handle zero properly

[Evan Balster]

The toString() in the return statement could probably be eliminated if the 
path resulting in a number at that point could be corrected.  I suspect the 
problem occurs when the "toFixed" conversion is made, because no further 
conversion turns that into a string.

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 02:06:57 UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Evan,
>  
>
>> I invite you to re-write your code more elegantly than I have with my 
>> limited understanding.
>>
>
> Tbh, as you can see from my question above,
> my understanding, more often than not, likewise is rather limited. ^_^
>
> For now, I am happy to see you have helped fix this
> and I will remember something about returning strings in js macros
> ...for reasons yet to be demystified.
>
> With what purpose would you wish (some part) of this little macro to be 
> rewritten?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Bug? <$set> widget with filter does not trigger refresh

[Spangenhelm]

>
> Unfortunately, it's really hard to make example code for your case, 
> because drafts have a title of "Draft of myMagicTitle", and editing the 
> title of a non-draft tiddler creates duplicates!

 
Well apparently this works in my case (for a tiddler nammed "Test")

<$set name="myVariable" filter="[field:title[Test]]" value="exists" 
emptyValue="do not exist">
<$text text=<>/>


But still have the refresh issue like you do.. maybe i will just try to use 
the "reveal" widget which can work a little like this i think.
While waiting for a solution..

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Evolena]

This information is already available on every tiddlywiki: go to the 
controlPanel, Info/Basics tab, there is a "Number of overridden shadow 
tiddlers" with an icon that leads to an advanced search filter.
Or there is a premade "Overridden shadow tiddlers" filter available in the 
Advance search by filter.

However, these filters also include all temp, state and config tiddlers, 
which may be noisy.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Show field from story tiddler within list widget

[Tobias Beer]

Hi François,

With all the nested cross examination going on,
xlist might possibly be doing what you're after already...

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw/xlist

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: OT: ubuntu touch

[Spangenhelm]

Question: have you tried to transfert files via bluetooth on your aquaris ? 
I did try on my linux and it does recognize and connect to my phone but 
every transfert fail no matter what without error messages to help. I have 
also just tried on a mac : same thing. Maybe from windows?

I may call the support to see if the problem comes from the phone or, but i 
don't think, the os itself.

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[tw] Re: OT: ubuntu touch

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:40:36 PM UTC+2, Spangenhelm wrote:
>
> Question: have you tried to transfert files via bluetooth on your aquaris 
> ? I did try on my linux and it does recognize and connect to my phone but 
> every transfert fail no matter what without error messages to help. I have 
> also just tried on a mac : same thing. Maybe from windows?
>

No success but I have seen some discussions. I'm not using bluetooth. ... I 
use "telegram" (similar to whatsapp) to transfer files. It's free, works 
very well for me, and there are Android, IOS and Web clients available. 

They have a well defined API, which imo could also be used as a 
personalized chat option from within TW. 
 

> I may call the support to see if the problem comes from the phone or, but 
> i don't think, the os itself.
>

I've seen some discussion about bluetooth file transfer but I can't find 
the links anymore. try telegram. 

-mario 

 

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[tw] Re: edit/display fields

[UBi]

Mario, thanks fur the github link! I changed $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/fields 
the same way Spangenheim did, and have a working setup now.

I really should sign up at github again (forgot my credentials).

UBi

Am Donnerstag, 17. September 2015 13:42:21 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias Beer:
>
> Here's an issue recently created by Spangenheim for this imho very 
> meaningful change:
>
> *#1932 Feature Request: Replacing the "editTemplate" fields from input to 
> textarea*
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1932
>
> Perhaps hop over there and +1.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki as a password store

[PMario]

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 2:27:24 PM UTC+2, Spangenhelm wrote:
>
> Hi guys! Good question: I guess you are right about the security risks for 
> a cloud-based use (i effectively use tw for storing my credentials but 
> offline only so far, and it is clearly missing a autofill feature though!)
>

I'm "kind of ok" for offline use but I still have some doubts and "open 
URL" and "autofill" are a big win with the native programs. 

 OT
I did create a new thread :) 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/XxHuCL3AyeM
 EOT

-mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Greg Davis]

Glad you are getting answers from those with more knowledge, I just passed 
on what I had found in my own searches. I'm still hesitant to go hacking at 
the underlying core but most of what I wanted didn't require that so far. 
As for your concerns about being stuck on one version it is simpler to move 
changes to a new TiddlyWiki than you may have imagined. TiddlyWiki can 
store tiddlers in JSON files and import them.

It just requires tagging all the tiddlers that you change or add for your 
customization with a unique tag. Then use Advanced Search on Filter to 
select the tiddlers with that tag. You can then save that group of tiddlers 
as a JSON. That JSON can be imported to a new TiddlyWiki applying your 
customization. One of those tiddlers could be one where you documented your 
changes.

This also be applied to content that you might want to transfer. As long as 
it has unique tags for a group of content.

See: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/R5sSkEOCilQ/n6zZdSmmM98J

For more on JSON search here for that, 
see also my brief example: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AAB88H2CEZP_IAdzc1AJBYN8a/5-1-7_left-menu_custom.htm#Build%20json%20for%20multiple%20tiddlers

Good Luck,
Greg

On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 10:00:45 PM UTC-5, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
>
> So let me make sure I understand what this means. Whenever I edit a system 
> tiddler (shadow tiddler?) I'm going to need to document what I've done, so 
> that when a new version of TW is rolled out, I can go back through my list 
> of personalisations and re-apply them to the latest version. Does that 
> about sum it up? Sorry, but, WTF?! I shouldn't have to alter the whole 
> underlying system just to make a simple interface change. I'm going to end 
> up with a huge list of personalisations to my wiki, and have to manage it, 
> curate it, and reapply each one with copy/paste whenever a new version of 
> TW becomes available. It would be far simpler to just go ahead and 
> personalise my own copy of TW 5.1.9 and never upgrade it again! I assume 
> thats why I see so many older copies of TW floating around online still, 
> because its easier to keep personalisations than to upgrade, is that about 
> right? I may be over-reacting to this, I often do. I have no experience 
> with upgrading TW yet, so please let me know that what I imagine from that 
> edit warning is not as bad as it seems.
>
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[tw] OT: ubuntu touch

[PMario]

From: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/LRtSnJ6-UbY

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 2:27:24 PM UTC+2, Spangenhelm wrote:

> Btw Mario you said you were using ubuntu touch on your mobile? So do i ! 
> What brand is your phone? Bq? mine is (Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition) and i'm 
> pretty happy with it altough there is no easy to sync it with the cloud 
> except via google..
>

I bought a BQ Aquaris 4.5 UE, because I thought the Meizu wont be finished 
soon enough. Then 2 or 3 weeks later they announced the "invitation only" 
period. I needed to play the origami game about 20 times in a row. So now I 
have 2. Which is cool. I can use one for testing and the other one "in 
production" :) but I didn't save any money. 
 

> Or have you find a way to do so? Webdav/Cardav and things like that do not 
> seems to be available yet afaik...
>

I needed to migrate all my contacts from a Nokia N9. The N9 contacts app 
has an export to text files feature.
Ubuntu touch can convert and import it.  with the help of the command 
line.

Yea. syncing can definitely be improved quite a bit :) But the phone itself 
is really good. especially the meizu camera works very well for me. 

Atm I'm waiting for the BQ "full conversion" device. We'll see, what they 
can do. ...

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Tag the shadow tiddlers that I modify, as I go, huh? Brilliant. And simple. 
Thanks *@Greg*, I'll start doing that from now on. I have coloured all my 
system-related tags red, so they stand out from everything else. I now have 
one called *modified-shadow* and have tagged the $:/core/save/all tiddler 
with it. That's the only one I've changed so far.

Getting great advice like this, early on in my use of TiddlyWiki, is 
awesome. It means I don't have to go back and apply such changes to a whole 
heap of things I'd've already done.

>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Show field from story tiddler within list widget

[francois godard]

> (See Filter Parameter  or 
> Introduction 
> to filter notation 
>  )
>

How could I miss that ! Thanks !!

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Error in executing tiddlydesktop on ubuntu 15

[Matthew Lauber]

I had this same issue.  I fixed it by deleting the folder 
~/.config/TiddlyWiki/user-config-tiddlywiki.  It seems that the 
user-config-tiddlywiki can specify a "includeWikis" path that doesn't 
exist, and this causes the loading of the initial application to fail.  

I'll look into if there's an easy fix for this.  (Probably just update "var 
resolvedIncludedWikiPath = path.resolve(wikiPath,info.path);" to confirm 
that the path exists.

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 12:32:18 PM UTC-4, Sivaram L wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> My issue is coming after I fixed the problem described in the ticket, I 
> have another machine with linux mint, where I don't see a issue. issue May 
> be due to some dependency. 
>
> Regards,
> Sivaram
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 10:54:01 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sivaram
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply.
>>
>> It sounds like the same problem as this ticket:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/issues/53#issuecomment-73359574
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't have any experience of Linux, but you may pick up some 
>> hints from the discussion there,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Sivaram L  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, 
>>> I downloaded and when try to run the tiddly desktop after updating "nw" 
>>> for the libudev issue, I am getting the following output on terminal, the 
>>> application window flashes for one second and crashes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> [8108:0627/191632:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(162)] Running without the 
>>> SUID sandbox! See 
>>> https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxSUIDSandboxDevelopment for 
>>> more information on developing with the sandbox on.
>>> ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by 
>>> environment.
>>> [8108:0627/191639:INFO:CONSOLE(1591)] "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read 
>>> property 'build' of null", source: 
>>> /home/sivaram/SparkleShare/tiddlydesktop-linux64-0.0.4/tiddlywiki/boot/boot.js
>>>  
>>> (1591)
>>>
>>> Any Idea, how to get it running.
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>> Sivaram
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[tw] [TW5] Parameter substitution in macro that uses an external link

[Bob Flandard]

Hello,

In tiddler tagged with "$:/tags/Macro" lives:

The global definition of the path to video clips
\define videoClipPath(path:"C:\Users\Bob\Videos\") $path$


...and a macro to define a table from a filtered list of tiddlers (thanks 
to Evolena, except where I've broken it)
\define property_table4(section_field, filter, list_header,file)

$list_header$
$section_field$

<$list filter="$filter$">

<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>
[ext[{{!!$section_field$}}|file:///<>{{!!$file$}}]]


\end



The tiddler that calls macro "property_table4" has this in it:
<>


All tiddlers tagged with "video" and "wiki" will also have fields "summary" 
and "file" e.g. "summary=A difficult Pancake" and "file=myClip1.mp4"

The intent was for the second column rows to have an external link like for 
example:
[ext[A difficult Pancake|file:///C:\Users\Bob\Videos\myClip1.mp4]]



But the displayed link text is "{{!!summary}}" not "A difficult Pancake"

and the link address is "file:///<>{{!!$file$}}" not 
"file:///C:\Users\Bob\Videos\myClip1.mp4"



Then I tried using a macro to assemble the The [ext[link display text|link 
address]] line

\define makeExtLink(text,arg1,arg2)
[ext[$text$|file:///$arg1$$arg2$]]
\end

and modified this line of "property_table4" macro:

[ext[{{!!$section_field$}}|file:///<>{{!!$file$}}]]


to be: 

<> {{!!$file$}}>>


and created some more junk.


The [ext[link display text|link address]] link is breaking the parameter 
substitutions, but how to fix it?

Thanks, Bob

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[tw] Custom Sort Index

[Francis Meetze]

There's been some talk about dragging tiddlers or list items in a tiddler 
thereby utilizing a custom sort index that gets manipulated when the object 
is moved up or down the list.

Are there any variables that refer to such a sort index that can be 
manipulated in that fashion?  While the drag and drop methods haven't been 
developed yet, I was thinking of just supplying an up or down arrow that 
can be clicked on to advance list item in a list.

For example, do a nestled sort by created date and a custom sort index. 
 When a list item gets advanced by clicking on the arrow, its position 
moves on that list.  Unfortunately, that will probably need some code track 
and manipulate that custom sort index -- because all items in the list will 
change their index accordingly once a single item is re-arranged.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Matabele]

Hi

Q solution: this button will delete the TOC state tiddlers:

<$button>
<$action-deletetiddler $filter="[search:title[$:/state/toc/]]"/>
Delete TOC State


Action this immediately prior to saving -- or else you could construct a 
custom 'Save-Wiki' button, which includes this code:

<$button message="tm-save-wiki" param={{$:/config/SaveWikiButton/Template}} 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}} 
class=<>>
<$action-deletetiddler $filter="[search:title[$:/state/toc/]]"/>

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/save-button}}

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
<$text 
text={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}}/>




regards

On Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:54:09 UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Is there a way to prevent the current state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar 
> from being saved? I'd like the Contents menu to begin in the "collapse all" 
> state whenever my TW wiki is first loaded, or when the page is refreshed 
> using the browser refresh button, (such as after I've just saved the wiki 
> to disk).
>
> I've had a look through the control panel, but can't find anything that 
> relates to this.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Hegart Dmishiv]

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:46:44 AM UTC+12, Evolena wrote:

> This information is already available on every tiddlywiki: go to the 
> controlPanel, Info/Basics tab, there is a "Number of overridden shadow 
> tiddlers" with an icon that leads to an advanced search filter.
> Or there is a premade "Overridden shadow tiddlers" filter available in the 
> Advance search by filter.
>
> However, these filters also include all temp, state and config tiddlers, 
> which may be noisy.
>

Yes, I figured that would be the case when I posted my first mini status 
report on Google+ 
 and I saw 
that I had already overridden 7 shadow tiddlers even before I'd done the 
first one, as was suggested to me above by *@Andrew*. I guessed that those 
first 7 must have been related somehow to the generation of  the TOC. 
However, that can't be right though. Looking at that stat on my current 
live build right now, it shows 6 shadow tiddlers overridden, and that 
includes the one I know I did manually. So looks more like you're right 
*@Evolena*, it's just random state and config stuff happening in the 
background.

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 5:45:03 AM UTC+12, Matabele wrote:
>
> Action this immediately prior to saving -- or else you might prefer to 
> construct a custom 'Save-Wiki' button, which includes this code:
>
> <$button message="tm-save-wiki" 
> param={{$:/config/SaveWikiButton/Template}} 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}} 
> class=<>>
> <$action-deletetiddler $filter="[prefix[$:/state/toc/]]"/>
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> {{$:/core/images/save-button}}
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> <$text 
> text={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}}/>
> 
> 
> 
>

Wow, that looks awesome *@Matabele*, but I wouldn't even know where to 
stick it yet to make it work. It does seem to be a better, more specific 
solution than the one I'm using at the moment, suggested by *@Andrew*, 
which, as *@Mat* pointed out, prevents anything from $:/temp/ and $:/state/ 
from being saved, which could have unintended consequences. I'd like to try 
using your suggestion, but where do I put it to make it work?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Parameter substitution in macro that uses an external link

[Evolena]

Le jeudi 17 septembre 2015 20:52:48 UTC+2, Bob Flandard a écrit :

> to be: 
>
> <> {{!!$file$}}>>
> 
>
> and created some more junk.
>

There may be other issues, but a first remark: you can't call a macro with 
the ordinary wikitext syntax if a parameter is a variable or a macro (like 
your videoClipPath). In this situation you have to use the MacroCallWidget 
.

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Matabele]

Hi

Place this code into a tiddler:

\define getSideTabs()
<$button tooltip="List SideBar Tabs">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/More" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Tools" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="TableOfContents" $field="side-bar" $value="tabs"
/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/AdvancedSearch" $field="side-bar" $value=
"tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/AdvancedSearch" $field="caption" $value=
"Search"/>
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}



\end



Toggle Sidebar Tabs<>
<$list filter="[field:side-bar[tabs]!has[draft.of]]">
<$view tiddler={{!!title}} field="title"/><$checkbox tiddler={{!!title}} tag="$:/tags/SideBar"/>



Click the + button -- the sidebar tabs can then be toggled.

regards

On Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:48:31 UTC+2, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> I often use TiddlyWiki to create documentation which is used by other 
> people.  It's useful to create a helper tab or two for browsing those wikis 
> or calling up commonly-used information -- but adding those to the four 
> default tabs makes for a rather complicated-looking sidebar.
>
> For the sake of those readers, I like to simplify my wiki slightly by 
> relocating those sidebar tabs which are mainly useful for editing (that is, 
> "Recent", "Tools" and "More") to a "wiki" tab.  Attached is a screenshot of 
> this scheme.
>
> I don't mind making this customization, but it does complicate upgrading 
> my wiki and it feels like something that could be a core feature.  Given 
> that *adding* sidebar tabs is a beginner-level customization 
>  
> which does not interfere with upgrading, it seems appropriate that hiding 
> or "collapsing" some of the built-in ones as I have might be similarly 
> facilitated.
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Re: [tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Evan Balster]

Chiming in to say that this does not avert the "trivial upgrading" problem.

Regards,
Evan

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> Hi Metabele,
>
> For what purpose would you be setting a *side-bar* field?
>
> Best wishes,
>
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[tw] Re: Custom Sort Index

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Francis,

In general, that is what the list field 
 is for. You can either 
retrieve tagging tiddlers, sorted by the *list* field or you can have them 
sorted by *created* but not both.

I believe the documentation for the *tagging* filter operator 
 needs to point to Order of 
Tagged Tiddlers  to 
explain how the list gets sorted according to the order in the list-field 
of the tag and also any list-before and list-after fields of tagging 
tiddlers.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,

For what purpose would you be setting a *side-bar* field?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Hegart,
 

> It does seem to be a better, more specific solution than the one I'm using 
> at the moment, suggested by *@Andrew*, which, as *@Mat* pointed out, 
> prevents anything from $:/temp/ and $:/state/ from being saved, which 
> could have unintended consequences. I'd like to try using your suggestion, 
> but where do I put it to make it work?
>

Just to be clear, my warning...

*Caution: Defining the wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose 
> data!*


...was put there because at first I was using the filter prefix[$:/temp], 
and at the time I had a bunch of *$:/templates/my-special-template* 
tiddlers, so along any temp tiddlers they were also not saved and 
consequently gone, hence the warning of being well aware and precise of how 
to construct the save filter.

What I was *not* suggesting was that it should be unsafe in any way to 
remove any tiddlers prefixed $:/temp/ or $:/state/, which it should not, 
unless someone is using these namespaces for the wrong purposes ...so, I 
*am* doing that by default on tb5 .

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

The purpose of the 'side-bar' field is to list the tabs -- using the 
'$:/tag/SideBar' only works for active tabs -- once hidden (by deleting 
this tag), the tab can't be listed using this tag.

regards

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> Hi Metabele,
>
> For what purpose would you be setting a *side-bar* field?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] Re: Are the downloadable TWs from tw.com assembled at download or pre-made?

[Erwan]

Hi Tobias,

Yes, I agree that it would make sense for the kind of application that 
you describe.


I only meant that for this application alone (generating a customized 
edition) it seems like an overkill, since I don't see any big technical 
difficulty in doing this server-side.


One step would be to levererage TiddlyWiki's save or export mechanisms 
to export the collection / subscription lists and preferences so that 
a given commandline or other executable environment can pick it up and 
construct the output.




I think this is more or less what my aggregator does already:

1) the wiki addresses are defined in the "skeleton" wiki (as node.js, 
but anyway conversion can be done both ways)
2) a command asks the node.js TW to render a list of the wiki tiddlers 
which match a filter (e.g. those for which the author agreed to have 
their content indexed); this step could be done from .tid files as well.

3) download these wikis as standalone html
4) convert the individual wikis to node.js
5) process tiddlers as .tid files, build the output wiki
6) convert the output wiki back to standalone html

I don't see what is missing in TW functionality for this kind of 
scenario, it's already perfect :-)
The only minor issue is that any command-line call to tiddlywiki is 
quite long to execute, I assume that this is because some node.js 
initialization must take place every time (?).


Regards
Erwan


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Re: [tw] CommunitySearch new address and new features

[Erwan]

Hi Jeremy,

I did a first version for the static "news" here: 
http://erwanm.github.io/tw-community-search/news-static/


It's updated daily like the TWCS wiki, but that will be visible only 
when people publish some news in their wikis ;)
The way it looks could probably be improved, and I don't know what would 
be the best option w.r.t how it is displayed (single tiddler html, all 
the individual tiddlers...)


Regards
Erwan

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Matabele]

Hi Hegart

For this example, I shall assume you wish to create a custom 'Save Wiki' 
button (which deletes the TOC state tiddlers and saves the Wiki):

1. Open a New Tiddler

2. rename this tiddler to something like: $:/_Buttons/SaveWiki

2. Paste this code into the tiddler:

<$button message="tm-save-wiki" param={{$:/config/SaveWikiButton/Template}} 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}} class=<
>>
<$action-deletetiddler $filter="[prefix[$:/state/toc/]]"/>

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/save-button}}

<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
<$text 
text={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}}/>




4. Save the tiddler

5. This tiddler may be transcluded wherever you wish to place the button -- 
like so:

{{$:/_Buttons/SaveWiki}}

You may wish to replace the existing 'Save Wiki' button with your custom 
version. In this case we need to tag your new '$:/_Buttons/SaveWiki' 
tiddler with the $:/tags/PageControls system tag -- then delete this tag 
from the old '$:/core/ui/Buttons/save-wiki' tiddler (to avoid having two 
buttons.)

1. To create a toggle for your new button -- place this code into a New 
Tiddler, name it what you wish, and save:

<$checkbox tiddler="$:/_Buttons/SaveWiki" tag="$:/tags/PageControls">Toggle 
Save Wiki Button

2. To toggle the old button -- open the 'Tools' sidebar tab and use the 
'Save Changes' checkbox.

regards

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:29:02 UTC+2, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:46:44 AM UTC+12, Evolena wrote:
>
>> This information is already available on every tiddlywiki: go to the 
>> controlPanel, Info/Basics tab, there is a "Number of overridden shadow 
>> tiddlers" with an icon that leads to an advanced search filter.
>> Or there is a premade "Overridden shadow tiddlers" filter available in 
>> the Advance search by filter.
>>
>> However, these filters also include all temp, state and config tiddlers, 
>> which may be noisy.
>>
>
> Yes, I figured that would be the case when I posted my first mini status 
> report on Google+ 
>  and I 
> saw that I had already overridden 7 shadow tiddlers even before I'd done 
> the first one, as was suggested to me above by *@Andrew*. I guessed that 
> those first 7 must have been related somehow to the generation of  the TOC. 
> However, that can't be right though. Looking at that stat on my current 
> live build right now, it shows 6 shadow tiddlers overridden, and that 
> includes the one I know I did manually. So looks more like you're right 
> *@Evolena*, it's just random state and config stuff happening in the 
> background.
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 5:45:03 AM UTC+12, Matabele wrote:
>>
>> Action this immediately prior to saving -- or else you might prefer to 
>> construct a custom 'Save-Wiki' button, which includes this code:
>>
>> <$button message="tm-save-wiki" 
>> param={{$:/config/SaveWikiButton/Template}} 
>> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Hint}} 
>> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}} 
>> class=<>>
>> <$action-deletetiddler $filter="[prefix[$:/state/toc/]]"/>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>> {{$:/core/images/save-button}}
>> 
>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>> <$text 
>> text={{$:/language/Buttons/SaveWiki/Caption}}/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>
> Wow, that looks awesome *@Matabele*, but I wouldn't even know where to 
> stick it yet to make it work. It does seem to be a better, more specific 
> solution than the one I'm using at the moment, suggested by *@Andrew*, 
> which, as *@Mat* pointed out, prevents anything from $:/temp/ and 
> $:/state/ from being saved, which could have unintended consequences. I'd 
> like to try using your suggestion, but where do I put it to make it work?
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Hegart Dmishiv]

Hi *@Tobi*,

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 9:06:53 AM UTC+12, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> What I was *not* suggesting was that it should be unsafe in any way to 
> remove any tiddlers prefixed $:/temp/ or $:/state/, which it should not, 
> unless someone is using these namespaces for the wrong purposes ...so, I 
> *am* doing that by default on tb5 .
>

Ah, okay, thanks for explaining that. I really am new to all this. I 
haven't even got the foggiest idea of what normally would go into $:/temp/ 
or $:/state/ yet. I assume it's like the /tmp folder of my Linux OS, the 
contents of which are pretty safe to delete unless they are very recent, 
and they get purged automatically anyway on logging out of the session. 
Does $:/temp/ get purged automatically at any stage in TW?

Ooh, *$:/templates* sounds like a nasty trap. Something I saw somewhere (I 
can't even recall who suggested it now) mentioned naming personal templates 
as $:/_Templates/template-name and that will put them all at the top of the 
list of system tiddlers. I see you're now using 
$:/.tb/templates/template-name which also appears to achieve the same 
thing, but in a more hierarchical format. Knowing tricks like that, again, 
is really helpful to me as a new user. I assume I will be also creating 
$:/_Macros/ and $:/_Styles etc similar to your system folders, once I get 
more proficient with TW. (*EDIT:* As I was typing this, *@Matabele* posted 
in the thread, mentioning  $:/_Buttons/, so that will be another one to 
consider.) 

I might just have a go with both yours and *Matabele*'s suggestions in my 
*dev* implementation of TW, one at a time, just to learn more about how 
they work. It looks like your States And Temporary Tiddlers 
 
tiddler answers my question above about where to put Matabele's solution. 
It'll be going into a new personal template like yours does, right? So I'll 
try each, one at a time. No doubt they both achieve the same result, just 
going about it different ways. A great learning experience for me, thanks 
both of you.

BTW, if anyone's wondering, I've decided to standardise some of my own 
language as it refers to TW, for instance, I use *"personal"* and 
*"personalise"* normally, rather than *"custom"* or *"customise"*, which I 
reserve for hacks that actually make changes to the underlying system. If 
it just involves a shadow tiddler, or a user setting, then I am 
*personalising* my version of TW. If it is something that I might suggest 
as a commit back to the community code or documentation, then it's a 
*customisation*. I'm not suggesting that this language gets widely adopted, 
I'm just explaining that this is what I'm doing.

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Matabele]

Hi Evan

The solution in the previous post makes upgrading fairly trivial, provided 
that the names of the sidebar tabs or system tags involved are not changed 
in the new version (the code can change.)

Simply add this tiddler to your new wiki, and prepare the tabs by clicking 
the large '+' button. If you have are upgrading an old wiki -- deselect the 
modified system tiddlers during the upgrade, then click the large '+' 
button to prepare the upgraded system tiddlers.

regards

On Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:48:31 UTC+2, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> I often use TiddlyWiki to create documentation which is used by other 
> people.  It's useful to create a helper tab or two for browsing those wikis 
> or calling up commonly-used information -- but adding those to the four 
> default tabs makes for a rather complicated-looking sidebar.
>
> For the sake of those readers, I like to simplify my wiki slightly by 
> relocating those sidebar tabs which are mainly useful for editing (that is, 
> "Recent", "Tools" and "More") to a "wiki" tab.  Attached is a screenshot of 
> this scheme.
>
> I don't mind making this customization, but it does complicate upgrading 
> my wiki and it feels like something that could be a core feature.  Given 
> that *adding* sidebar tabs is a beginner-level customization 
>  
> which does not interfere with upgrading, it seems appropriate that hiding 
> or "collapsing" some of the built-in ones as I have might be similarly 
> facilitated.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Auto Tag remake

[Matabele]

Hi

Great idea -- auto-linking is the one feature of Tomboy Notes that I miss 
in TW5. However, cluttering the tags field with auto-links does not appear 
to fit my desired behaviour. 

Looks like another case for multiple tags fields -- the auto-links could 
then be placed in another 'autotags' field, reserving the 'tags' field for 
explicit user tags.

regards

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 14:41:26 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Allow me to raise a bit of a critical voice on this functionality. I have 
> never been convinced of it in TWc as it comes with too much ambiguity and 
> false positives.
>
> In short, just because I write about some "meeting" doesn't mean that I 
> want a tiddler to be tagged as a "meeting".
>
> If you want to perform text search, use search ...but this seems to just 
> greatly clutter tagfields and have them used where they might just not be 
> relevant, and actually disruptive.
>
> I'd much rather favor auto-linkification 
>  or hashtags 
>  rather than being auto-smart about 
> something as important as tags, which are essential to how I do 
> categorization, only to then wonder what happened.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
>

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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Matabele]

Hi

I'm not sure of the details of how the 'linkify' plugin for TWC worked (is 
it necessary for the user to specify the list of terms used as auto-links?)

In Tomboy Notes -- auto-linking occurs only for terms that match the titles 
of other notes. That is, any term in the text of any tiddler that matches 
the title of another tiddler gets automatically linkified.

regards

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 14:29:50 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Tbh, I never fancied the method of AutoTaggerPlugin 
>  and I can't see why I 
> would.
>
> It is good to be specific, declarative... not to use automation where it 
> might just yield false positives and, as you pointed out youself, no way to 
> undo the tagging when the content changes.
>
> #Hashtags are far more adequate, and @Mario, sure they can be almost at 
> the start of a line, given there is at least one blank preceding it... even 
> if Markdown could think of it as an indentated list.
>
> Another, much more powerful option would be what linkify 
>  did for TWc.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Prevent the state of the Contents (TOC) SideBar from being saved?

[Evolena]

It still may lead to a lose of data. I've experimented it once. A syntax 
error that causes the filter to match nothing, and you end with a nearly 
empty file... So backup every time you change the save-filter!

Le jeudi 17 septembre 2015 23:06:53 UTC+2, Tobias Beer a écrit :
>
> Just to be clear, my warning...
>
> *Caution: Defining the wrong save-filter may have you unknowingly lose 
>> data!*
>
>
> ...was put there because at first I was using the filter prefix[$:/temp], 
> and at the time I had a bunch of *$:/templates/my-special-template* 
> tiddlers, so along any temp tiddlers they were also not saved and 
> consequently gone, hence the warning of being well aware and precise of how 
> to construct the save filter.
>
> What I was *not* suggesting was that it should be unsafe in any way to 
> remove any tiddlers prefixed $:/temp/ or $:/state/, which it should not, 
> unless someone is using these namespaces for the wrong purposes ...so, I 
> *am* doing that by default on tb5 .
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
>

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Matabele]

Hi

Here is a complete solution:

1. Paste this code into a New Tiddler, rename it to whatever you wish, and 
save.

\define getSideTabs()
<$button tooltip="List SideBar Tabs">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/More" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Tools" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open" $field="side-bar" 
$value="tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="TableOfContents" $field="side-bar" $value="tabs"
/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/AdvancedSearch" $field="side-bar" $value=
"tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/AdvancedSearch" $field="caption" $value=
"Search"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/_SideBar/Wiki" $field="side-bar" $value=
"tabs"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/_SideBar/Wiki" $field="caption" $value="Wiki"
/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/_SideBar/Wiki" $field="text" $value="""

<>

"""/>
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}

\end





Toggle Sidebar Tabs<>
<$list filter="[field:side-bar[tabs]!has[draft.of]]">
<$view tiddler={{!!title}} field="title"/><$checkbox tiddler={{!!title}} tag="$:/tags/SideBar"/>

Toggle ~WikiSidebar Tabs
<$list filter="[field:side-bar[tabs]!has[draft.of]![$:/_SideBar/Wiki]]">
<$view tiddler={{!!title}} field="title"/><$checkbox tiddler={{!!title}} tag="$:/tags/WikiSideBar"/>



2. Click the large '+' button to prepare your tabs

3. Check/Uncheck the various tabs to have them appear according to your 
preferences

regards

On Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:48:31 UTC+2, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> I often use TiddlyWiki to create documentation which is used by other 
> people.  It's useful to create a helper tab or two for browsing those wikis 
> or calling up commonly-used information -- but adding those to the four 
> default tabs makes for a rather complicated-looking sidebar.
>
> For the sake of those readers, I like to simplify my wiki slightly by 
> relocating those sidebar tabs which are mainly useful for editing (that is, 
> "Recent", "Tools" and "More") to a "wiki" tab.  Attached is a screenshot of 
> this scheme.
>
> I don't mind making this customization, but it does complicate upgrading 
> my wiki and it feels like something that could be a core feature.  Given 
> that *adding* sidebar tabs is a beginner-level customization 
>  
> which does not interfere with upgrading, it seems appropriate that hiding 
> or "collapsing" some of the built-in ones as I have might be similarly 
> facilitated.
>

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,
 

> The purpose of the 'side-bar' field is to list the tabs -- using the 
> '$:/tag/SideBar' only works for active tabs -- once hidden (by deleting 
> this tag), the tab can't be listed using this tag.
>

I see. Starting from your table, I went about it slightly differently and 
also included the *More* sidebar...

Toggling And Moving Sidebar-Tabs @ tb5 


I think that's a useful thing, because the first thing I often do is put 
the Tools into *More*.

Best wishes,

— tb 

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[tw] Re: AutoTag for TW5?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Metabele,
 

> Is it necessary for the user to specify the list of terms used as 
> auto-links?
>

Yes, it is, which I think is important. Well, for one exemption, the 
ability to auto-link existing tiddler titles, like this...
 

> In Tomboy Notes -- auto-linking occurs only for terms that match the 
> titles of other notes.
>

This is good so long as you don't have tiddler titles with common words, 
like "and", which will be be quite confusing eventually.

Best wishes,

— tb

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Re: [tw] CommunitySearch new address and new features

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Erwan,
 

> I did a first version for the static "news" here: 
> http://erwanm.github.io/tw-community-search/news-static/ 
>

This is nice. It appears that there might be some external links missing? 
...especially the documentation links.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: Feature Request: Sidebar tab hiding as a built-in option

[Matabele]

Hi Tobias

That looks to be useful. The reason I opted for a custom field for the 
filter (as I recall) -- was to include custom tabs in the toggle listings. 
For standard tabs, your filter method appears neater (avoiding the 
necessity of overwriting system tiddlers unnecessarily.) With the addition 
of the 'prefix{!!custom}' filter, looks to cover all bases.

regards

On Friday, 18 September 2015 07:14:14 UTC+2, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Metabele,
>  
>
>> The purpose of the 'side-bar' field is to list the tabs -- using the 
>> '$:/tag/SideBar' only works for active tabs -- once hidden (by deleting 
>> this tag), the tab can't be listed using this tag.
>>
>
> I see. Starting from your table, I went about it slightly differently and 
> also included the *More* sidebar...
>
> Toggling And Moving Sidebar-Tabs @ tb5 
> 
>
> I think that's a useful thing, because the first thing I often do is put 
> the Tools into *More*.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Are the downloadable TWs from tw.com assembled at download or pre-made?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Erwan,
 

> I don't see what is missing in TW functionality for this kind of 
> scenario, it's already perfect :-)
>

You sure have done a great job here, no question. :-)

What I was suggesting was, that if this ever became some sort of desktop 
application,
it would be good to not only have a single "channel subscription list" 
extracted from tiddlers from which to construct,
but to rather be able to define "collections" or "interests", i.e. 
different sets of subscriptions for different purposes,
e.g. one for the latest "Plugin News" and another for "My Project Team 
Wikis",
which could, theoretically, even overlap.

Not sure if you're familiar with it, but think of "interests" in Facebook.
There you can add users or pages to special subscription lists for which 
you can then see a dedicated news feed.

Best wishes,

— tb

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