[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Navigating and transcluding Slices...Missing Features for the atomic concept:

[Roger Ferrari]

Using Thomas solution together with the Smart TOC extension for chrome 
works just fine for me.

this is the 
extension: 
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/smart-toc/lifgeihcfpkmmlfjbailfpfhbahhibba/related

it has a github page, unfortunately I am no coder/programmer I was trying 
to understand a way to get the piece of code to reproduce what the 
extension does but I just can't.

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 9:04:36 PM UTC-3, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas, thanks a lot for this.
> I would prefer an Infobox in the Edit-Mode right below the TiddlerTitle.
> It would be best to include a warning wether the Tiddler is transcluded 
> from somewhere in order to avoid accidental confusions.
>
> ...but I also have thought of using your Plugin the other way round to 
> produce a slice-replacement. 
> A function extracting some marked piece of a specific Tiddler. Something 
> like Text to extract.
> This would also have the advantage that it would be immediately visible 
> that the slice is used elsewhere.
>
> Yours Jan
>
> Am 08.01.2017 um 01:07 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:
>
> Hi Jan
>
> The extract macro  offers a 
> new solution to this: 
>
>> -When you discover that the content you wish to change was transcluded, 
>> it takes some time to get to the real tiddler; in most cases I have to find 
>> and open with the searchbar.
>> It would be practical if transclusions were clickable Links in the 
>> edit-Mode. Could this be done with a template or plugin? 
>>
>  
> As you would expect, it can find all {{transclusions}} in curly style – 
> and with the new version (0.9.2) you can output them as a list of links. I 
> made a demo here: http://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#Icon%20Test where it lists 
> all the images used. 
>
> I think such a list could be appended as a tab to the tiddler info panel … 
> or maybe you could make a conditional view template and append it to the 
> edit view. Of course you miss .
>
> Good luck and good night!
> Thomas
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[tw5] Re: How to create Table of Contents inside a tiddler?

[Roger Ferrari]

TonyM, Hi there!

I was looking for a way to replicate wikipedias TOC and I think actually 
the way you showed with tabs (<]" "!Heading 1" 
"$:/state/tab1" class:"tc-vertical">>) is much better.
Though I would like to know if I could change the label it shows in the 
tabs, instead of the tiddler name, a short alias.

I will try to explain why. I am using tidllywiki to put info about a RPG 
world for my players, and I am writing about each city.
Each city will have History, Geography, Politics and so on. I can name the 
tiddlers with `city-name-history`for instance, but it is a very large name 
to show in the tab, whereas I would like to show just History.

Sorry my terrible english, if I wasn't clear enough let me know and I will 
try again. Anyway thanks for your time.

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 9:38:39 AM UTC-3, TonyM wrote:
>
> Talha,
>
> To support what Mohammad said 
>
> *The philosophy of tiddler is the smallest meaningful chunk of contents. 
> They are not for lengthy and huge amount of content.*
> *If you get this philosophy you wont need to have table of contents from 
> headings instead you will need table of content from tiddlers*
> *and it was explained by Jed.*
>
> I made a gift for you, download and drag and drop the attached file onto 
> TiddlyWiki
> I have also dumped a PDF (incorrect pagination)  to illustrate what they 
> will look like.
>
> Start with the Tiddler 
> Tiddler pre-transclude
> (edit them to see how they look inside, then see
> Tiddler post-transclude
> I used the Editor ToolBar Excise tool with the tagging checked, to divide 
> the first into the second by heading, but since they are now separate 
> tiddlers the other examples show other formats, that are possible once they 
> are individually tagged tiddlers including drag and drop re-ordering.
>
> Then work though the remaining ones to see how even a few minutes work can 
> make very good use of individual tiddlers.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 12:05:16 AM UTC+10, talha131 wrote:
>>
>> How do I create table of contents from headings inside a Tiddler written 
>> in TiddlyWiki markup?
>>
>> For example, markdown has couple of plugins that create TOC from 
>> headings, like [Visual Studio code Plugin](
>> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=joffreykern.markdown-toc
>> ).
>>
>> Is there a macro or plugin available for TiddlyWiki?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Table of Contents inside a tiddler

[Roger Ferrari]

Hello Milind, sorry to bring it up, just curious if you got that?

I am trying to have this small table of contents linking to the sections 
inside the tiddler.

BR,
Roger

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 6:36:08 PM UTC-2, Milind wrote:
>
> Hi,
>I am also looking for such a plugin to port my Tiddlywiki Classic 
> to the new Tiddlywiki. The tidtoc mentioned here 
> http://tidtoc.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted looks very good. Is there a 
> version where the headings grouped in the TOC can act as links to the 
> headings in the tiddler? That was how the Tiddlywiki Classic TOC used to 
> work. 
>
> Thanks,
> Milind
>
>
> On Thursday, 20 November 2014 05:55:05 UTC-8, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I use Tiddlywiki at work. I work with a lot of documents of different 
>> types. Some are legal documents and affidavits. Others are contracts and 
>> specifications. Some are well structured while others seem to ramble 
>> pointlessly. Some are lengthy while others are very short. I need to be 
>> able to figure out quickly which document contains a particular 
>> requirement. I've found that Tiddlywiki with its search function, and 
>> especially with Danielo's context search plugin, is almost perfect for my 
>> task.Everyone I've shown my wikis to has been envious.
>>
>> One key criteria in my line of work: for existing documents, I must have 
>> every word and character correct and in the right order. Most of these 
>> documents must not be edited. For example, I can't change any part of an 
>> existing contract. I can highlight portions of it but I must not change any 
>> word or word order or punctuation mark. Using a clause from one document in 
>> another is rare enough that simply copying is the obvious answer. 
>>
>> Consider the two alternate ways of doing things; the preferred Tiddlywiki 
>> method of breaking my documents into small pieces and my current method, 
>> the document dump.
>>
>> I don't so much create tiddlers as dump documents into them. Dumping a 
>> document into a single tiddler is fast and easy. Open the word document. 
>> Copy the entire thing. Open the wiki. Create a new Tiddler. Paste the 
>> document into the tiddler. Name the tiddler to match the source document 
>> name. And I'm done. If I care to preserve the formatting, I add three quote 
>> marks at the beginning. Total time expended, perhaps a minute. If I really 
>> want to make it pretty, I can spend 10-15 minutes adding exclamation marks 
>> to mark headers or use Danielo's Keysnippet routine to convert some jumbles 
>> into neat tables.
>>
>> This creates what can be a very large tiddler. The search function works 
>> as expected and rapidly identifies which document contains which phrase. It 
>> has every character and every word in exactly the right order. It 
>> accomplishes what I need to accomplish with a minimal amount of effort.
>>
>> And the disadvantage? So far I haven't found one. If Tiddlywiki processes 
>> the tiddler more slowly, I haven't noticed.
>>
>> By comparison, the Tiddlywiki preferred choice, lots of little tiddlers, 
>> is a good deal of work. 
>>
>> I've tried copying and pasting individual segments from the word document 
>> into individual tiddlers. Each smaller tiddler takes about the same amount 
>> of time to set up as my much larger single tiddler but after that I'm still 
>> not done. I still have to rebuild the original document from those 
>> individual tiddlers and I have to verify that I got all the material 
>> correctly. When that is done, I have to create a field and tagging system 
>> so that each smaller tiddler will reflect its source document and sort 
>> correctly so the table of contents will be right. 
>>
>> If I saw any real advantage to using a lot of little tiddlers to 
>> accomplish the same thing that can be done with one large tiddler, I might 
>> go ahead and spend the extra time. The last couple times I went through 
>> this exercise, it took me hours rather than minutes. And what did I get for 
>> my effort? As close as I can tell, nothing but older.
>>
>> One thing that would make my life easier would be a table of contents 
>> that worked inside a single tiddler that was based on headers or some 
>> invisible marker. I know this has been requested more than once and now, 
>> perhaps, you can understand why I want one. A simple list of headers would 
>> be helpful. I could then use the browser's Find command to jump to the 
>> appropriate section.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

[Roger Ferrari]

Good morning!

This is the code I am using:

\define imageit(image:"image.jpg")
>  />
> \end

https://i.imgur.com/ouGocUq.jpg (Macro screenshot)

And in another tiddler I am using this code:

<>


And this is what happens:

well, I was about to take the screenshot as I recreated the steps and it
worked as intended lol. Thanks!
I might have missed something, it was pretty late at night yesterday. Thank
you so much.


*Roger Ferrari*



On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 1:18 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> One of the great things about macros written with TiddlyWiki is that, if
> you used all core components, they will continue to be backward compatible
> no matter how much time has passed.
>
> I just ran a test, and the 4 year old code still works.
>
> With this particular macro, what is going to matter most is the directory
> structure of your images. It's expecting that you will put a directory
> below your TW directory, and then a subdirectory "thumbs" below that. The
> default image directory was TW-Images, but you can supply a different image
> path.
>
> So you might explain a bit about your set-up, and the image names you're
> using.
>
> Good luck
> -- Mark
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 6:04:25 PM UTC-8, Roger Ferrari wrote:
>>
>> Hi, sorry to bring such old discussion, but I am trying to reproduce this
>> macro and it doesn't work for me.
>>
>> I created it with the tiddlywiki technique to implement global macros
>> (macros defined in tiddlers with the $:/tags/Macro tag)
>>
>> and the syntax is exactly the same as you show above, do you have any
>> idea what could I possibly be doing wrong? Thank you so much for any help
>> and your time.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 7:22:20 PM UTC-2, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> You could roll your own macro that would do some of that:
>>>
>>> \define imageit(image:"image.jpg")
>>> >> />
>>> \end
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> This produces a 1/4 size clickable "thumb" (no actual thumb is
>>> generated).
>>>
>>> To actually generate a thumb would probably take a FF plugin.
>>>
>>> The tiddlyclip plugin (http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) can capture
>>> screenshots of  web pages, BTW.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:57:50 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would
>>>> like to embed screenshots in the text
>>>> So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)
>>>>
>>>> [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]
>>>>
>>>> What I would really like to do is:
>>>> * have the image displayed in the tiddler without having to click on a
>>>> link (good);
>>>> * have a thumbnail of the image displayed; click on thumbnail to see
>>>> the full resolution image (better)
>>>> * generate the thumbnail "on the fly" without having to a separate
>>>> thumbnail image; click on the thumbnail to see the full resolution image
>>>> (best)
>>>>
>>>> Steve Wharton
>>>>
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[tw5] Re: tw5 question about thumbnails and links to external image files

[Roger Ferrari]

Hi, sorry to bring such old discussion, but I am trying to reproduce this 
macro and it doesn't work for me.

I created it with the tiddlywiki technique to implement global macros 
(macros defined in tiddlers with the $:/tags/Macro tag)

and the syntax is exactly the same as you show above, do you have any idea 
what could I possibly be doing wrong? Thank you so much for any help and 
your time.


On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 7:22:20 PM UTC-2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> You could roll your own macro that would do some of that:
>
> \define imageit(image:"image.jpg")
>  />
> \end
>
> e.g. 
>
> <>
>
> This produces a 1/4 size clickable "thumb" (no actual thumb is generated).
>
> To actually generate a thumb would probably take a FF plugin.
>
> The tiddlyclip plugin (http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) can capture 
> screenshots of  web pages, BTW.
>
>
> On Monday, November 10, 2014 10:57:50 AM UTC-8, steve wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am using TW5 to write documentation for a application and I would like 
>> to embed screenshots in the text
>> So far I am able to have a clickable link to the image (see below)
>>
>> [ext[App Screenshot|./externalFiles/image.tiff]]
>>
>> What I would really like to do is:
>> * have the image displayed in the tiddler without having to click on a 
>> link (good);
>> * have a thumbnail of the image displayed; click on thumbnail to see the 
>> full resolution image (better)
>> * generate the thumbnail "on the fly" without having to a separate 
>> thumbnail image; click on the thumbnail to see the full resolution image 
>> (best)
>>
>> Steve Wharton
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TWc] Forked version of Firefox to use as local application?

[roger]

A Acorn,
Thanks for the info.  Not sure I'll go that route but appreciate knowing about 
it none the less.
~ Roger

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[tw] [TWc] Forked version of Firefox to use as local application?

[roger]

For those of us using TW as a local application, is there a forked version of 
Firefox suitable for use?  A browser that isn't intended for browsing the web, 
only browsing local html files.

I've tried using TiddlyDesktop but we may have 30 or 40 TW's open at a given 
time.  So accessing a specific TW from the browser Sidebar tab is very 
efficient.  I couldn't duplicate that efficiency with my limited efforts to use 
TiddlyDesktop.

A "local system only" version of FF v14 with the xpconnect privileges intact 
would be ideal.

~Roger

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[tw] Re: Table layout containing tiddlers with specific tag

[roger]

Jed & ParisWiki
Thank you both.  The table layout is looking very similar to what I'm 
accustomed to now.  

I need to review the widget info on tiddlywiki.com to get a better 
understanding of TW5.  Is there any other source of documentation recommended 
for a person to figure out simple tweaks like the ones I needed for my table 
layout?

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[tw] Re: Table layout containing tiddlers with specific tag

[roger]

Thanks Jed.
I'm really a novice when it comes to the new stuff in TW5. Is is possible 
to sort the list of tiddlers in reverse chronological order based on the 
date created?  I see in the List Widget section of tiddlywiki.com that 
there is a sort parameter that can be used when invoking the list widget, 
but can't find the syntax to get the list to sort in reverse.

A couple other things I'm not understanding.  How do I render {{!!title}} 
as a link to the tiddler, rather than just text or alternatively, add a 
link such as [[...edit|{{!!title}}]]?

Also, how do you control how the date is formatted?  The default output of 
{{!!created}} is way more detailed than I want to display.  I just need a 
simple MM/DD/ format.

~Roger

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[tw] Table layout containing tiddlers with specific tag

[roger]

I've been utilizing TWc for several years, but am looking at possibly 
updating to TW5.  A feature I use in TWc is to generate a list of prior 
tiddlers in a table format, with the tiddler creation date, tiddler title, 
tiddler body and tiddler author.  The desired outcome is produced in TWc 
using a tiddler with the following content:


var tag="faq";
var hdr="| ''DATE'' | ''NOTE'' | ''AUTHOR'' |\n";
var fmt="| %0 |''[[%1]]:'' <<tiddler [[%1]]>> | %2 |\n"; 
var tids=store.getTaggedTiddlers("caseNote",'created').reverse();  
var out=[hdr]; 
for (var i=0; i<tids.length; i++) { 
var when=tids[i].created.formatString("MM/DD/"); 
var title=tids[i].title;
var who=tids[i].modifier; 
out.push(fmt.format([when,title,who])); 
} 
return out.join('');

 
I tried using the script in a TW5 tiddler, but it doesn't work the same.  I 
assume the code works in TWc because of the inline javascript plugin.  Is 
that plugin available for TW5 or is there another way of accomplishing the 
same thing?  

~Roger

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[tw] Re: [TW5] I'm really missing TWC AutoSave + SaveBackups

[Roger Dodger]

Great, thanks.

On Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:19:52 PM UTC+7, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
> saving backups should be added to tw5 (via firefox) soon
>
> cheers
>
> BJ
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] I'm really missing TWC AutoSave + SaveBackups

[Roger Dodger]

Great! Thanks.

On Saturday, November 1, 2014 7:19:52 PM UTC+7, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
> saving backups should be added to tw5 (via firefox) soon
>
> cheers
>
> BJ
>
> On Saturday, November 1, 2014 9:27:31 AM UTC, Roger Dodger wrote:
>>
>> After years of using TWC, I've been playing with TW5 for a couple weeks. 
>> Are the following statements about TW5 correct?
>>
>> 1. Save or Autosave overwrites the previously version TW version.
>>
>> 2. No way in TW to undo a tiddler delete, same as in TWC.
>>
>> 3 So if I accidentally delete a tiddler, then save or autosave the TW, 
>> that tiddler is unrecoverable, UNLESS:
>>
>> 3.A The TW resides in a folder synced to cloud storage, where any file 
>> save triggers an upload AND the cloud services keeps each distinct version, 
>> AND the cloud service local client will still save triggering version, not 
>> just the one existing at the time it starts the upload. (Can you tell I 
>> don't use auto-uploading cloud storage ;-)
>>
>> OR 3.B Run a folder synchronizer (Linux: built in, Win: 3rd party, Mac: 
>> ?) where any file save triggers a copy resulting in each distinct version 
>> saved to another location.
>>
>> Or 3.C Manually use the browser's 'Save As' as often as needed, giving 
>> each version a new name.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>

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[tw] [TW5] I'm really missing TWC AutoSave + SaveBackups

[Roger Dodger]

After years of using TWC, I've been playing with TW5 for a couple weeks. 
Are the following statements about TW5 correct?

1. Save or Autosave overwrites the previously version TW version.

2. No way in TW to undo a tiddler delete, same as in TWC.

3 So if I accidentally delete a tiddler, then save or autosave the TW, that 
tiddler is unrecoverable, UNLESS:

3.A The TW resides in a folder synced to cloud storage, where any file save 
triggers an upload AND the cloud services keeps each distinct version, AND 
the cloud service local client will still save triggering version, not just 
the one existing at the time it starts the upload. (Can you tell I don't 
use auto-uploading cloud storage ;-)

OR 3.B Run a folder synchronizer (Linux: built in, Win: 3rd party, Mac: ?) 
where any file save triggers a copy resulting in each distinct version 
saved to another location.

Or 3.C Manually use the browser's 'Save As' as often as needed, giving each 
version a new name.








 

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Tiddlyclip plugin release - create clips of webpages

[Roger Whitehead]

Very nice!

Is it possible to have the Web link at the bottom of the clip or to give 
people the choice of position?

(Bloody users -- always asking for more.)

Roger

= = = = 

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>
> Belay that -- it accepted it at the third try. Will now have a play.
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[tw] Re: [tw5] Tiddlyclip plugin release - create clips of webpages

[Roger Whitehead]

Belay that -- it accepted it at the third try. Will now have a play.

Thanks,

Roger

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Roger Whitehead wrote:
>
> It's now saying the plug-in is corrupt.  8=(
>
> Roger
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:39:53 AM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Roger,
>> I have now set the minimum version of ff to 20 - so now you should be 
>> able to give it a go.
>>
>> I think the addon should work ok but I have not tested it with older 
>> version of ff. 
>> cheers
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:31:41 AM UTC+2, Roger Whitehead wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds interesting. I can't get it to work on my system, though. I get a 
>>> message when I try to install it that it's incompatible with Firefox 
>>> 24.8.0, which I'm running under Windows 8.1.
>>>
>>> I appreciate that it's an early release, so this is mainly a FYI message.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> = = = = =
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:32:57 PM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> I have released a new version of the firefox addon 0.0.4-alpha...
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Tiddlyclip plugin release - create clips of webpages

[Roger Whitehead]

Belay that. It accepted it at the thrid try. Will now try it.

Roger

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:36:36 PM UTC+1, Roger Whitehead wrote:
>
> It's now saying the plug-in is corrupt.  8=(
>
> Roger
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:39:53 AM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Roger,
>> I have now set the minimum version of ff to 20 - so now you should be 
>> able to give it a go.
>>
>> I think the addon should work ok but I have not tested it with older 
>> version of ff. 
>> cheers
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:31:41 AM UTC+2, Roger Whitehead wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds interesting. I can't get it to work on my system, though. I get a 
>>> message when I try to install it that it's incompatible with Firefox 
>>> 24.8.0, which I'm running under Windows 8.1.
>>>
>>> I appreciate that it's an early release, so this is mainly a FYI message.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> = = = = =
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:32:57 PM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> I have released a new version of the firefox addon 0.0.4-alpha...
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Tiddlyclip plugin release - create clips of webpages

[Roger Whitehead]

It's now saying the plug-in is corrupt.  8=(

Roger

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:39:53 AM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>
>
> Hi Roger,
> I have now set the minimum version of ff to 20 - so now you should be able 
> to give it a go.
>
> I think the addon should work ok but I have not tested it with older 
> version of ff. 
> cheers
>
> BJ
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:31:41 AM UTC+2, Roger Whitehead wrote:
>>
>> Sounds interesting. I can't get it to work on my system, though. I get a 
>> message when I try to install it that it's incompatible with Firefox 
>> 24.8.0, which I'm running under Windows 8.1.
>>
>> I appreciate that it's an early release, so this is mainly a FYI message.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> = = = = =
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:32:57 PM UTC+1, BJ wrote:
>>
>> I have released a new version of the firefox addon 0.0.4-alpha...
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Tiddlyclip plugin release - create clips of webpages

[Roger Whitehead]

Sounds interesting. I can't get it to work on my system, though. I get a 
message when I try to install it that it's incompatible with Firefox 
24.8.0, which I'm running under Windows 8.1.

I appreciate that it's an early release, so this is mainly a FYI message.

Roger

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I have released a new version of the firefox addon 0.0.4-alpha...

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[tw] Saving TiddlyWiki on Mac

[Roger Pimlott]

Running OS X v10.8.3
Have Firefox, Safari and Chrome installed

Can anyone give me a method to save TiddlyWiki's, my last known method 
involved Firefox and changing the privileges using another tiddlywiki, but 
running this on my main Mac it just says it doesn't have enough privileges 
to update the privileges on the latest Firefox (20.0)

So I can't use tiddlywiki at all at the moment.

Roger

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[tw] Re: ShowLocalDirectory - FF15?

[roger]

Eric,
Just wondering if you determined whether ShowLocalFolder could be salvaged 
in FF 15+ using an extension.  Some of the other functionality in the TW's 
we use at my office don't work with IE, while FF works great, or at least 
it did work great.

~Roger

On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 6:08:42 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2:15 pm, Stephan Hradek  
> wrote: 
> > > Yes, that's the cause.  Unfortunately, as of FF15, FireFox has removed 
> > > support for "PriviledgeManager", which is used to get 
> > > "UniversalXPConnect" priviledges for access to the diretory 
> > > information. 
> > 
> > I don't like IE :( There is no fix for this I guess? Signing won't help, 
> > because tiddlywikis are one file and so there is noc single js file to 
> > sign, right? 
> >  http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/signed-scripts.html 
>
> The only way to use the filesystem functions is to invoke them from a 
> true browser-level extension so that they are automatically run as 
> 'privileged code' , much like the new TiddlyFox extension that Jeremy 
> has recently created to enable FF15 to read/write local files without 
> security errors.  It might be possible to provide similar extension- 
> driven functions for reading local directory information.  I'll have 
> to look into that. 
>
> -e 
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[tw] Re: Can't connect to tiddlyspot.com

[roger]

My inability to connect seems to be pretty persistent, at least when
attempting to do so from the network connect of my office.

~Roger

On Mar 26, 11:25 am, Mike  wrote:
> my symbian phone is connecting without any problems to main page and
> hosted.
>
> Unless it is a intermittent problem
>
> Mike
>
> On Mar 26, 10:43 am, roger  wrote:
>
> > Sorry to post this here, but I know that many people in this group
> > probably use tiddlyspot to some degree.  I'm just wondering if anyone
> > knows whether TiddlySpot.com is having some connectivity problems.
> > For the past week I've been having problems accessing my tiddlyspot
> > subdomain, as well as the main tiddlyspot.com page.  The IT department
> > at my employer insists that they aren't blocking access, and I'm not
> > getting their webfilter's typical access denied message.  Just a
> > message in Firefox saying that the connection timed out because the
> > server at tiddlyspot.com is taking too long to respond.
>
> > ~Roger

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[tw] Can't connect to tiddlyspot.com

[roger]

Sorry to post this here, but I know that many people in this group
probably use tiddlyspot to some degree.  I'm just wondering if anyone
knows whether TiddlySpot.com is having some connectivity problems.
For the past week I've been having problems accessing my tiddlyspot
subdomain, as well as the main tiddlyspot.com page.  The IT department
at my employer insists that they aren't blocking access, and I'm not
getting their webfilter's typical access denied message.  Just a
message in Firefox saying that the connection timed out because the
server at tiddlyspot.com is taking too long to respond.

~Roger

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[tw] Re: FileDropPlugin not creating a new tiddler when dropping pdf file

[roger]

bump

On Dec 11, 12:48 pm, roger  wrote:
> I just realized that it doesn't seem to matter what type of file I
> drop onto the TW, it doesn't create a tiddler with a link to the file,
> but rather opens the file either in the browser or the default
> application.  So dropping an rft file for example, causes the file to
> open in Word.  So it seems obvious that this isn't an Adobe related
> issue.  Also upgrade Firefox from 3.5.1 to 3.5.5, but that didn't make
> a difference either.
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Dec 11, 11:17 am, roger  wrote:
>
> > Others in my office use FileDropPlugin daily to create tiddlers that
> > link to pdf files created by our scanning software.  However, I just
> > tried to use it myself and it's not working.  When I drop a pdf file
> > onto the TW file in my browser window, rather than creating a tiddler,
> > the browser opens the pdf file for viewing within the browser. I
> > checked the about:config setting as suggested by Eric in the
> > FileDropPlugin usage notes, and have the same problem whether the
> > setting is set to true or false.
>
> > My assumption is that the problem is with a setting in either Adobe
> > Reader or in Firefox.  I did recently upgrade Adobe Reader from ver
> > 8.x to ver 9.2.0.  I think everyone else in our office is using ver
> > 8.x, but I had to upgrade to maintain compatibility with another
> > application that uses reader.
>
> > I have discovered that by updating FileDropPlugin from ver. 0.1.1 to
> > the most current version the problem is fixed.  So I know how to
> > correct the problem for the future, but we have a ton of TW's that are
> > using the old version of FileDropPlugin without any complaint.  So I
> > guess I'd like to know exactly what the source of the problem is that
> > I experience on my machine so the other users don't run into the same
> > problem I just encountered.
>
> > All TW & linked pdf files are locally stored.  Firefox is ver. 3.5.x
> > TW core is ver. 2.2.5 or 2.4.1
>
> > ~Roger

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[tw] Re: FileDropPlugin not creating a new tiddler when dropping pdf file

[roger]

Any ideas what could be causing this behavior?
~Roger

On Dec 11, 12:48 pm, roger  wrote:
> I just realized that it doesn't seem to matter what type of file I
> drop onto the TW, it doesn't create a tiddler with a link to the file,
> but rather opens the file either in the browser or the default
> application.  So dropping an rft file for example, causes the file to
> open in Word.  So it seems obvious that this isn't an Adobe related
> issue.  Also upgrade Firefox from 3.5.1 to 3.5.5, but that didn't make
> a difference either.
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Dec 11, 11:17 am, roger  wrote:
>
> > Others in my office use FileDropPlugin daily to create tiddlers that
> > link to pdf files created by our scanning software.  However, I just
> > tried to use it myself and it's not working.  When I drop a pdf file
> > onto the TW file in my browser window, rather than creating a tiddler,
> > the browser opens the pdf file for viewing within the browser. I
> > checked the about:config setting as suggested by Eric in the
> > FileDropPlugin usage notes, and have the same problem whether the
> > setting is set to true or false.
>
> > My assumption is that the problem is with a setting in either Adobe
> > Reader or in Firefox.  I did recently upgrade Adobe Reader from ver
> > 8.x to ver 9.2.0.  I think everyone else in our office is using ver
> > 8.x, but I had to upgrade to maintain compatibility with another
> > application that uses reader.
>
> > I have discovered that by updating FileDropPlugin from ver. 0.1.1 to
> > the most current version the problem is fixed.  So I know how to
> > correct the problem for the future, but we have a ton of TW's that are
> > using the old version of FileDropPlugin without any complaint.  So I
> > guess I'd like to know exactly what the source of the problem is that
> > I experience on my machine so the other users don't run into the same
> > problem I just encountered.
>
> > All TW & linked pdf files are locally stored.  Firefox is ver. 3.5.x
> > TW core is ver. 2.2.5 or 2.4.1
>
> > ~Roger

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[tw] Re: FileDropPlugin not creating a new tiddler when dropping pdf file

[roger]

I just realized that it doesn't seem to matter what type of file I
drop onto the TW, it doesn't create a tiddler with a link to the file,
but rather opens the file either in the browser or the default
application.  So dropping an rft file for example, causes the file to
open in Word.  So it seems obvious that this isn't an Adobe related
issue.  Also upgrade Firefox from 3.5.1 to 3.5.5, but that didn't make
a difference either.

~Roger

On Dec 11, 11:17 am, roger  wrote:
> Others in my office use FileDropPlugin daily to create tiddlers that
> link to pdf files created by our scanning software.  However, I just
> tried to use it myself and it's not working.  When I drop a pdf file
> onto the TW file in my browser window, rather than creating a tiddler,
> the browser opens the pdf file for viewing within the browser. I
> checked the about:config setting as suggested by Eric in the
> FileDropPlugin usage notes, and have the same problem whether the
> setting is set to true or false.
>
> My assumption is that the problem is with a setting in either Adobe
> Reader or in Firefox.  I did recently upgrade Adobe Reader from ver
> 8.x to ver 9.2.0.  I think everyone else in our office is using ver
> 8.x, but I had to upgrade to maintain compatibility with another
> application that uses reader.
>
> I have discovered that by updating FileDropPlugin from ver. 0.1.1 to
> the most current version the problem is fixed.  So I know how to
> correct the problem for the future, but we have a ton of TW's that are
> using the old version of FileDropPlugin without any complaint.  So I
> guess I'd like to know exactly what the source of the problem is that
> I experience on my machine so the other users don't run into the same
> problem I just encountered.
>
> All TW & linked pdf files are locally stored.  Firefox is ver. 3.5.x
> TW core is ver. 2.2.5 or 2.4.1
>
> ~Roger

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[tw] FileDropPlugin not creating a new tiddler when dropping pdf file

[roger]

Others in my office use FileDropPlugin daily to create tiddlers that
link to pdf files created by our scanning software.  However, I just
tried to use it myself and it's not working.  When I drop a pdf file
onto the TW file in my browser window, rather than creating a tiddler,
the browser opens the pdf file for viewing within the browser. I
checked the about:config setting as suggested by Eric in the
FileDropPlugin usage notes, and have the same problem whether the
setting is set to true or false.

My assumption is that the problem is with a setting in either Adobe
Reader or in Firefox.  I did recently upgrade Adobe Reader from ver
8.x to ver 9.2.0.  I think everyone else in our office is using ver
8.x, but I had to upgrade to maintain compatibility with another
application that uses reader.

I have discovered that by updating FileDropPlugin from ver. 0.1.1 to
the most current version the problem is fixed.  So I know how to
correct the problem for the future, but we have a ton of TW's that are
using the old version of FileDropPlugin without any complaint.  So I
guess I'd like to know exactly what the source of the problem is that
I experience on my machine so the other users don't run into the same
problem I just encountered.

All TW & linked pdf files are locally stored.  Firefox is ver. 3.5.x
TW core is ver. 2.2.5 or 2.4.1

~Roger

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[tw] Re: ShowLocalDirectoryPlugin and IE 8.0

[roger]

I guess my instance of IE was just blocking the javascript.  IE didn't
display a warning message, so I didn't consider the possibility that
the problem I was having was that basic.

On Nov 6, 2:30 pm, roger  wrote:
> I primary use FireFox to work with TW files, but I'd like to do some
> limited work with some TW's using IE.  One of the things I would like
> to do is to be able to view the contents of a local directory (using a
> locally hosted TW file) via the ShowLocalDirectory plugin.  The plugin
> works just fine in FF, but when I access the same TW file in IE ver.
> 8.0 I receive the following messge:
> Object doesn't support this property or method
>
> Is there a setting in IE that can be modified so the
> ShowLocalDirectory plugin will work with IE 8.0, or does the plugin
> just not work in IE?
>
> ~Roger
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[tw] Re: Does jquery provide TW ability to query ODBC database?

[roger]

The database is the back end of a CMS and it is on a local network
without any web exposure.  The files are associated with specific
cases, but of course, you need to query the index table to know which
files are associated with which cases.  One reason for considering TW
as an alternative application to the CMS application to supply the
interface to the files is that it would make it possible to open
multiple TW's as tabs within a single browser window so that the user
would have nearly instant access to the files for any one of a number
of individual cases.

The TW files would also be stored on the local file system. I suppose
TW isn't really a requirement, but it opens up the potential for many
other options, such as storing notes or metadata.  I would compare it
to putting sticky notes on the paper files. The electronic files being
accessed can't be modified, so having an easy way to create notes that
relate to specific files would be nice.

~Roger

On Oct 30, 11:04 am, FND  wrote:
> > Looking around the net, it appears that it might be possible to access
> > a local database via ODBC using an ActiveX object in the IE browser.
>
> Presumably one could write an application to provide the necessary
> interface (similar to the way the TiddlySaver Java applet enables
> loading and saving local files on certain browsers).
>
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[tw] Does jquery provide TW ability to query ODBC database?

[roger]

Based on a brief review of previous posts I got the impression that
using TW as a tool to query an ODBC database wasn't really very
feasible.  I'm wondering if JQuery has changed that situation or not.

I'm looking for a way to access files (primarily pdf's and mutlipage
tiff's).  The files are indexed in a database.  I'd like to query the
indexing table and access relevant files via a web browser, rather
than through the UI that sits on top of the database.  If TW just
isn't suited for such a task, then I guess I'll have to look for some
other alternative.

My goal can best be summed up by a statement I read that was posted by
Eric Shulman a few years ago:
"database driven dynamic tiddler content... yum."

~Roger
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[tw] Re: UserName setting suddenly reverted to default YourName (solved)

[roger]

Now I'm back to normal.  I went to the admin tiddler of one our 2.2.5
based TW's, opened the options slider and entered my user name.  Now
my user name is loading up properly in all the TW files I access.
Apparently entering my user name in the popup box generated by the
SetUserNamePlugin doesn't make the setting stick the same as when it's
entered directly using the default method.

~Roger

On Oct 27, 4:55 pm, roger  wrote:
> In our office we use numerous tiddlywiki files and have for about 18
> months.  The TW's are either based on version 2.2.5 or 2.4.1.  I'm
> using Firefox 3.5.1 to access the files.  Until a few minutes ago,
> when I would open a TW file, my UserName would be correct.  Suddenly
> all of my TW files appear to have lost the ability to pick up my
> UserName setting and the default YourName is being loaded with the
> file.  On the 2.4.1 version of the files, they are set up to prompt
> the user when the file is opened if the txtUserName is set to
> YourName, but on the 2.2.5 files, I have to go to the Admin tiddler to
> fix it.
>
> My question is why in the world would my UserName setting have been
> working fine for all this time and now suddenly today it has stopped?
> We have multiple users accessing the TW files, so I can't "bake" my
> UserName in the TW files, but until just a few minutes ago, it wasn't
> a problem.  I did access the "CookieJar" tiddler on one TW file, but I
> didn't edit that file, nor change the cookie settings for it.
> However, it seems that ever since I accidentally accessed that
> tiddler, my UserName setting has been jacked up.
>
> Is there anyway I can restore the functionality I enjoyed until
> moments ago?  Entering my user name every time I open a TW file is a
> huge pain.
>
> ~Roger
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[tw] UserName setting suddenly reverted to default YourName

[roger]

In our office we use numerous tiddlywiki files and have for about 18
months.  The TW's are either based on version 2.2.5 or 2.4.1.  I'm
using Firefox 3.5.1 to access the files.  Until a few minutes ago,
when I would open a TW file, my UserName would be correct.  Suddenly
all of my TW files appear to have lost the ability to pick up my
UserName setting and the default YourName is being loaded with the
file.  On the 2.4.1 version of the files, they are set up to prompt
the user when the file is opened if the txtUserName is set to
YourName, but on the 2.2.5 files, I have to go to the Admin tiddler to
fix it.

My question is why in the world would my UserName setting have been
working fine for all this time and now suddenly today it has stopped?
We have multiple users accessing the TW files, so I can't "bake" my
UserName in the TW files, but until just a few minutes ago, it wasn't
a problem.  I did access the "CookieJar" tiddler on one TW file, but I
didn't edit that file, nor change the cookie settings for it.
However, it seems that ever since I accidentally accessed that
tiddler, my UserName setting has been jacked up.

Is there anyway I can restore the functionality I enjoyed until
moments ago?  Entering my user name every time I open a TW file is a
huge pain.

~Roger
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[tw] Re: Is it possible to control column width in a table

[roger]

Please disregard this inquiry.  I decided to just move the entries
around on the table instead.
~ Roger

On Jun 25, 1:15 pm, roger  wrote:
> I have a tiddler set up that contains the following:
>
> |!Create Case Notes |>|>|
> |<> |>|''Your ~UserName is:'' < txtUserName>> |
> |!|>|>|
> |<> |>|>|
> |!Previous Case Notes |>| !Scanned Notes & Email |
> | |!| |
> |<> |!|<>|
>
> This works fine except for one thing.  The content displayed in the
> <> cell can be difficult to read when it
> gets squished up by contents of the <> cell.
>
> Is there any way to control the width of a particular table cell?
>
> ~Roger
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[tw] Is it possible to control column width in a table

[roger]

I have a tiddler set up that contains the following:

|!Create Case Notes |>|>|
|<> |>|''Your ~UserName is:'' <> |
|!|>|>|
|<> |>|>|
|!Previous Case Notes |>| !Scanned Notes & Email |
| |!| |
|<> |!|<>|

This works fine except for one thing.  The content displayed in the
<> cell can be difficult to read when it
gets squished up by contents of the <> cell.

Is there any way to control the width of a particular table cell?

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[tw] Re: Possible source of intermittent JavaScript problems?

[roger]

Thanks for the suggestion Daniel.  I gave that a try, but it didn't
help.  I think I'll have the IT department do a fresh install on that
laptop and see if it helps.
~Roger

On May 24, 4:39 am, Daniel Baird  wrote:
> Roger, I'd try disabling all the firefox plugins on the troublesome system.
>
> ;Daniel
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:56 AM,roger wrote:
>
> > At our office we have a computer that seems to have intermittent
> > problems running JavaScript with our TW files.  The user complained
> > about frequent problems where he would put a TW file into edit mode,
> > enter info into a tiddler, then click done.  At that point the browser
> > (FF3.0.8) would lock up rather than save the changes that had been
> > made to the TW.  (autosave changes is turned on).  Our TW files also
> > use the TiddlyLockPlugin and I've noticed that this particular
> > computer can't create the .lck file used by TiddlyLockPlugin.  If
> > the .lck file exists, then the TW can interact with the .lck file, but
> > if the .lck file is missing, then it doesn't get created.  If the .lck
> > file is missing then any attempt to put the TW into edit mode will
> > cause the browser to lock up.  In both cases (editing a TW as well as
> > failing to create a .lck file) the browser doesn't generate any error
> > messages or script warnings.
>
> > We have a couple other computers that have the same problem with the
> > creation of the .lck file, but those machines don't have any problem
> > editing the TW files.  At least, not to my knowledge.
>
> > In the past I've searched for reasons for this type of behavior, but
> > haven't had any luck.  I installed Firebug on one of the problem PC's
> > in the past, but I couldn't see any JavaScript errors with the help of
> > that plugin either.  I've tested the problem out with other versions
> > of FF and that didn't make a difference.  File permissions for these
> > machines are identical with the file permissions on the computers that
> > don't have any problems working with our TW files.  I'm wondering if
> > anyone here might be able to shed some light onto the problem.
>
> > ~Roger
>
> --
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> I've tried going to the XHTML  a few times, but it's always closed.
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[tw] Possible source of intermittent JavaScript problems?

[roger]

At our office we have a computer that seems to have intermittent
problems running JavaScript with our TW files.  The user complained
about frequent problems where he would put a TW file into edit mode,
enter info into a tiddler, then click done.  At that point the browser
(FF3.0.8) would lock up rather than save the changes that had been
made to the TW.  (autosave changes is turned on).  Our TW files also
use the TiddlyLockPlugin and I've noticed that this particular
computer can't create the .lck file used by TiddlyLockPlugin.  If
the .lck file exists, then the TW can interact with the .lck file, but
if the .lck file is missing, then it doesn't get created.  If the .lck
file is missing then any attempt to put the TW into edit mode will
cause the browser to lock up.  In both cases (editing a TW as well as
failing to create a .lck file) the browser doesn't generate any error
messages or script warnings.

We have a couple other computers that have the same problem with the
creation of the .lck file, but those machines don't have any problem
editing the TW files.  At least, not to my knowledge.

In the past I've searched for reasons for this type of behavior, but
haven't had any luck.  I installed Firebug on one of the problem PC's
in the past, but I couldn't see any JavaScript errors with the help of
that plugin either.  I've tested the problem out with other versions
of FF and that didn't make a difference.  File permissions for these
machines are identical with the file permissions on the computers that
don't have any problems working with our TW files.  I'm wondering if
anyone here might be able to shed some light onto the problem.

~Roger

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[tw] Re: cookie issue with SetUserNamePlugin?

[roger]

Interesting.  I also have the CookieJar plugin installed, though I
don't know if that makes a difference or not.  I don't have a cookie
set for txtUserName as one of the baked cookies since we use the TW
files in a multiuser environment.  Despite the fact you are unable to
reproduce the problem, at least now that I know what's causing the
problem, I can come up with a suitable workaround.  Thanks for the
quick feedback!

On May 18, 12:57 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > using the <> option provided by SetUserNamePlugin, then
> > the UserName does not persist.  I assume that means, it doesn't get
> > saved to a cookie.
>
> The relevant code from SetUserNamePlugin is:
> ---
> var opt="txtUserName";
> var who=prompt(this.msg,config.options[opt]);
> if (!who||!who.trim().length) return; // cancelled by user
> config.options[opt]=who;
> saveOptionCookie(opt);
> config.macros.option.propagateOption(opt,"value",config.options
> [opt],"input");
> ---
>
> This code:
> * directly saves the username value in config.options["txtUserName"]
> * invokes saveOptionCookie() to update the browser's stored cookie
> value
> * invokes propagateOption() to ensure that the display of any < txtUserName>> fields is properly refreshed.
>
> I just did the following test:
> * set username (via sidebar <> field) to "YourName"
> * reload document
> * verified: sidebar option field now displays "YourName"
> * invoke tiddler editor (clicked on 'new tiddler')
> * automatically prompted for new username
> * entered "TestThis"
> * verified: sidebar option field now displays "TestThis"
> * verified: new tiddler 'modifier' is assigned "TestThis"
> * verified: config.options.txtUserName value is "TestThis"
> * verified: document.cookie contains: txtUserName=TestThis;
> * reload document
> * verified: username is still "TestThis"
>
> So... while I have no doubt that you are experiencing a problem, I
> can't reproduce it here, and don't see any obvious flaws in the
> existing code either
>
> hmmm...
>
> -e
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[tw] cookie issue with SetUserNamePlugin?

[roger]

I suppose this post is directed to Eric's attention, but I've been
struggling with a cookie issue where sometimes the UserName would
persist and other times it would not.  What I've finally determined is
that it seems to be the SetUserNamePlugin that is the source of the
trouble.  I'm using core 2.4.1 with FF 3.0.8.  If I set the UserName
using <> then the UserName I specify will persist
from session to session and TW to TW.  However, if I set the UserName
using the <> option provided by SetUserNamePlugin, then
the UserName does not persist.  I assume that means, it doesn't get
saved to a cookie.

I installed SetUserNamePlugin because I am also using
TiddlyLockPlugin.  I was running into problems when a TW was put into
edit mode if the UserName was set to YourName.  The user would change
their name at the prompt, but TiddlyLock would already have the file
locked by YourName.  Using SetUserNamePlugin helped resolve the
TiddlyLock issue, but certainly seems to be the source of this
UserName cookie problem.

For now I can just include <> in plain site on the
TW so the user can see what their UserName cookie is set to and change
it if necessary.  If SetUserNamePlugin didn't cause problems though,
I'd prefer to use it rather than having to always display the
txtUserName prompt.

~Roger
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[tw] Re: Import and Export CSV to Tiddlers and vice versa?

[roger]

Eric, just wanted to add my thanks to you for updating the
CreateTiddlersFromCSV plugin to handle commas and double quotes.  I
have a spreadsheet that contains data which I've been wanting to
leverage by putting the data into a TW.  Some of that data contains
commas which really need to be preserved, so the improved
functionality you've added is just what I needed.

~Roger

On Apr 24, 2:17 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > find a documentation for the plugin and tried several options how a
> > CSV file could look like. I assumed somthing like
>
> > TiddlerTitleToImport,""Text to be imported, with a comma in the
> > text"",tags separated by space
>
> I've updated the tiddler (but not the version #) to include better
> documentation about the necessary CSV formatting.  Just click on the
> 'slider button' that reads "CSV-formatted data..." that appears in the
> instruction text on the form itself.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

Morris:  Just upgraded to FF 3.0.8 and the cookie problem appears to
be a thing of the past.  My txtUserName cookie setting is working fine
now.  Thanks for the suggestion!

~ Roger

On Apr 14, 10:05 pm, Anthony Muscio  wrote:
> It may not be relevant but I have resolved a number of unpredictable cookie
> saving problems recently by looking inside the cookiejar and finding some
> text option set with values including {{tiddler.title}}, unpredictable
> results occurred including the loss of my uesr cookie.
>
> TonyM
>
> If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed
> something.www.tiddlywiki.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:32, Morris Gray  wrote:
>
> > The bug seemed to be attended to in 3.07, who knows how long in may
> > have been lurking or what combination of computer configuration caused
> > it.
>
> > Perhaps it's time to install 3.08 and take advantage of all of the
> > updates. (and the new bugs :-)
>
> > Morris
>
> > On Apr 15, 9:16 am, roger  wrote:
> > > Right now I'm still on FF 3.0.3.
>
> > > On Apr 14, 12:39 pm, Morris Gray  wrote:
>
> > > > What version of Firefox is being used, there was some cookie issues in
> > > > 3.06
>
> > > >http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0.7/releasenotes/
>
> > > > "For some users, cookies would appear to go “missing” after a few days
> > > > (bug 444600)."
>
> > > > Morris
>
> > > > On Apr 15, 3:23 am, roger  wrote:
>
> > > > > I haven't taken time to try out Eric's suggestion yet, but am
> > > > > wondering about another workaround.
>
> > > > > Would it be possible to create a txt file on the c: drive of each
> > > > > users PC that contains their user name.  Then whenever the user loads
> > > > > one of our TW files, have the file attempt to get the value for the
> > > > > txtUserName cookie from the predetermined user name contained in the
> > > > > text file on the users c: drive?
>
> > > > > If that is possible, how would one go about coding that kind of
> > > > > functionality?  I assume it would be a matter of a pretty simple
> > > > > systemConfig tiddler, but I've never written any javascript, just
> > > > > hacked on what others have created.
>
> > > > > ~Roger
>
> > > > > On Apr 6, 10:39 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > enjoyed a couple of the Firefox add-ons, specifically Session
> > Manager
> > > > > > > and Tree Style Tabs.
>
> > > > > > I wonder if perhaps one of the Firefox add-ons is somehow
> > interfering
> > > > > > with TiddlyWiki's use of cookies.  Try running a 'plain vanilla'
> > > > > > Firefox:
>
> > > > > > * close all FireFox windows (i.e.,  completely exit the
> > application)
> > > > > > * re-launch FireFox using "firefox --profile-manager"
> > > > > > * create a fresh new test profile
> > > > > > * attempt to use cookies and see what happens
>
> > > > > > enjoy,
> > > > > > -e
> > > > > > Eric Shulman
> > > > > > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

Right now I'm still on FF 3.0.3.

On Apr 14, 12:39 pm, Morris Gray  wrote:
> What version of Firefox is being used, there was some cookie issues in
> 3.06
>
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0.7/releasenotes/
>
> "For some users, cookies would appear to go “missing” after a few days
> (bug 444600)."
>
> Morris
>
> On Apr 15, 3:23 am, roger  wrote:
>
> > I haven't taken time to try out Eric's suggestion yet, but am
> > wondering about another workaround.
>
> > Would it be possible to create a txt file on the c: drive of each
> > users PC that contains their user name.  Then whenever the user loads
> > one of our TW files, have the file attempt to get the value for the
> > txtUserName cookie from the predetermined user name contained in the
> > text file on the users c: drive?
>
> > If that is possible, how would one go about coding that kind of
> > functionality?  I assume it would be a matter of a pretty simple
> > systemConfig tiddler, but I've never written any javascript, just
> > hacked on what others have created.
>
> > ~Roger
>
> > On Apr 6, 10:39 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>
> > > > enjoyed a couple of the Firefox add-ons, specifically Session Manager
> > > > and Tree Style Tabs.
>
> > > I wonder if perhaps one of the Firefox add-ons is somehow interfering
> > > with TiddlyWiki's use of cookies.  Try running a 'plain vanilla'
> > > Firefox:
>
> > > * close all FireFox windows (i.e.,  completely exit the application)
> > > * re-launch FireFox using "firefox --profile-manager"
> > > * create a fresh new test profile
> > > * attempt to use cookies and see what happens
>
> > > enjoy,
> > > -e
> > > Eric Shulman
> > > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

I haven't taken time to try out Eric's suggestion yet, but am
wondering about another workaround.

Would it be possible to create a txt file on the c: drive of each
users PC that contains their user name.  Then whenever the user loads
one of our TW files, have the file attempt to get the value for the
txtUserName cookie from the predetermined user name contained in the
text file on the users c: drive?

If that is possible, how would one go about coding that kind of
functionality?  I assume it would be a matter of a pretty simple
systemConfig tiddler, but I've never written any javascript, just
hacked on what others have created.

~Roger

On Apr 6, 10:39 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > enjoyed a couple of the Firefox add-ons, specifically Session Manager
> > and Tree Style Tabs.
>
> I wonder if perhaps one of the Firefox add-ons is somehow interfering
> with TiddlyWiki's use of cookies.  Try running a 'plain vanilla'
> Firefox:
>
> * close all FireFox windows (i.e.,  completely exit the application)
> * re-launch FireFox using "firefox --profile-manager"
> * create a fresh new test profile
> * attempt to use cookies and see what happens
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

We moved to Firefox when we first deployed our TW based files.  I
guess I'll have to revisit using IE instead, though we've really
enjoyed a couple of the Firefox add-ons, specifically Session Manager
and Tree Style Tabs.  It doesn't look like saving cookies is a problem
on IE, so that would solve the immediate problem and hopefully it
won't be the source of other issues.

~Roger

On Apr 6, 4:07 pm, FND  wrote:
> > Is it possible to use javascript to set the default username based
> > upon the Windows login?
>
> Only on IE:
>      http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/t/d41ca93e1a756a84
>
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

Mike and FND, thanks for the help.

I set localhost as an exception for cookies, but txtUserName still
isn't being saved.

Is it possible to use javascript to set the default username based
upon the Windows login?  In our environment it would be unusual for
someone to be using another person's computer to create/edit a
tiddler, so the Windows login username would work fine as the default
username.  If I could set up the TW so that:
If txtUserName = YourName, then txtUserName = Windows login username
that would, I think, solve my problem.

~Roger

On Apr 6, 2:54 am, FND  wrote:
> > But, how do I add a cookie exception for localhost?
>
> Here:
>      Firefox Preferences > Privacy > Cookies > Exceptions
> Enter "localhost" and click on Enable.
>
> HTH.
>
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

Mike,
You're correct, sadly that's not the answer I'm looking.

I am using SetUserNamePlugin and have it set up to automatically
prompt the user for their name when the TW opens if the name is set to
YourName.  I had to set it up that way because I am also using the
TiddlyLock plugin.  With TiddlyLock, if you start to edit a TW with
the user name set to YourName, then the TW becomes locked by
YourName.

So if I force SetUserNamePlugin to check the value of the user name
when the TW is loaded, that avoids problems if the user needs to edit
the TW as SetUserName and TiddlyLock don't bump into each other when
the TW is put into edit mode.

Unfortunately, if I can't resolve the cookie saving issue, then every
user will be getting prompted for their user name on every TW every
time it's pulled up.  We use hundreds of TW files in our office, so
it's not an insignificant annoyance if the UserName prompt has to be
dealt with every time.

I still don't understand how to set the cookies exception for
localhost, which I'm hopeful might be a solution, but I'm not overly
optimistic that it will.

~Roger

On Apr 2, 11:50 am, Mike  wrote:
> May not be the answer you are looking for,  but I had a similar
> problem on a multi user TW and I 
> installedhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#SetUserNamePlugin
> Prompting for User name a the start of the document
>
> Mike
>
> On Apr 2, 8:05 am, Ken Girard  wrote:
>
> > In my home environment I am having no problem with cookies in a 2.5.0
> > TW on Firefox 3.1b3.
> > It saves my userName and various configs, right down to having the
> > options panel open.
> > But, I just realized that this cookie might be also what is causing my
> > cookies to persist for 2.4.1 TW files.
> > Interesting as I'd never tried to think of it that way before.
>
> > Ken Girard
>
> > On Apr 1, 6:37 pm, roger  wrote:
>
> > > FND,
> > > Yes, I've been to that link a few times just trying to make sure I
> > > correctly understood what was being communicated.
>
> > > Hmmm, well I guess it doesn't matter so much why FF3 is playing nice
> > > with our 2.2.5 files, it's the fact that I can't save the txtUserName
> > > cookie for the ver. 2.4.1 files that I need to fix.
>
> > > Will the localhost URL work for the situation I described?  According
> > > to the wiki:
> > > "using a localhost URL (e.g. file://localhost/home/user/TiddlyWiki.html
> > > instead of file:///home/user/TiddlyWiki.html) - that way a cookie
> > > exception can be added for localhost"
>
> > > But, how do I add a cookie exception for localhost?
>
> > > ~ Roger
>
> > > On Apr 1, 12:27 pm, FND  wrote:
>
> > > > > Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
> > > > > TW, but not 2.4.1?
>
> > > > TiddlyWiki's cookie handling should not have changed between those
> > > > versions*, so this is most likely a browser issue.
>
> > > > Firefox 3 is not supposed to store cookies for local files:
> > > >      http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox#Cookies
> > > > However, I /believe/ I'd also noticed some inconsistencies in the past.
> > > > However, I haven't been able to make out a reliable/reproducible
> > > > pattern, so it's hard to analyze this...
>
> > > > -- F.
>
> > > > * that's just a guess, so I might be wrong
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

FND,
Yes, I've been to that link a few times just trying to make sure I
correctly understood what was being communicated.

Hmmm, well I guess it doesn't matter so much why FF3 is playing nice
with our 2.2.5 files, it's the fact that I can't save the txtUserName
cookie for the ver. 2.4.1 files that I need to fix.

Will the localhost URL work for the situation I described?  According
to the wiki:
"using a localhost URL (e.g. file://localhost/home/user/TiddlyWiki.html
instead of file:///home/user/TiddlyWiki.html) - that way a cookie
exception can be added for localhost"

But, how do I add a cookie exception for localhost?

~ Roger

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> > Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
> > TW, but not 2.4.1?
>
> TiddlyWiki's cookie handling should not have changed between those
> versions*, so this is most likely a browser issue.
>
> Firefox 3 is not supposed to store cookies for local files:
>      http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox#Cookies
> However, I /believe/ I'd also noticed some inconsistencies in the past.
> However, I haven't been able to make out a reliable/reproducible
> pattern, so it's hard to analyze this...
>
> -- F.
>
> * that's just a guess, so I might be wrong
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

Just bumping this message.

On Mar 28, 12:46 pm, roger  wrote:
> I upgraded to FF3 some time ago and was of the understanding that it
> doesn't save cookies for local files from session to session.  The
> cookie I'm specifically interested in is txtUserName.  I have TW's
> that several of the people in my office access which are based on TW
> 2.2.5.  Some of us are on FF3 and others on FF2, but none of us have
> had any issues with txtUserName not preserving our individual user
> names from session to session.
>
> I've also been working on a TW based on 2.4.1  Every time I open the
> 2.4.1 TW the user name is set to YourName.  I did install the
> CookieSaverPlugin and set the value of several cookies in the
> CookieJar.  However, I can't really set the value of txtUserName in
> the CookieJar since the TW will be accessed by multiple users, each of
> whom will need to user their own user name.
>
> Unfortunately as it stands right now, if I implement this new version
> of TW in my office environment, each user will have to enter their
> user name every time they start a new session with this TW.  Everyone
> in the office is accustomed to working with the 2.2.5 TW's and not
> having to enter their user name each time they access the file.  I'd
> really like to keep it working that way as we move everyone in the
> office to FF3 and ver 2.4.1 TW files.
>
> So I guess my question are:
> 1) Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
> TW, but not 2.4.1?
> 2) And what's the best way to accomplish the same UserName experience
> for multiple users of a local TW 2.4.1 file in FF3 as they've been
> accustomed to so far with ver 2.2.5?
>
> ~Roger
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[tw] Does FF3 save cookies or not?

[roger]

I upgraded to FF3 some time ago and was of the understanding that it
doesn't save cookies for local files from session to session.  The
cookie I'm specifically interested in is txtUserName.  I have TW's
that several of the people in my office access which are based on TW
2.2.5.  Some of us are on FF3 and others on FF2, but none of us have
had any issues with txtUserName not preserving our individual user
names from session to session.

I've also been working on a TW based on 2.4.1  Every time I open the
2.4.1 TW the user name is set to YourName.  I did install the
CookieSaverPlugin and set the value of several cookies in the
CookieJar.  However, I can't really set the value of txtUserName in
the CookieJar since the TW will be accessed by multiple users, each of
whom will need to user their own user name.

Unfortunately as it stands right now, if I implement this new version
of TW in my office environment, each user will have to enter their
user name every time they start a new session with this TW.  Everyone
in the office is accustomed to working with the 2.2.5 TW's and not
having to enter their user name each time they access the file.  I'd
really like to keep it working that way as we move everyone in the
office to FF3 and ver 2.4.1 TW files.

So I guess my question are:
1) Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
TW, but not 2.4.1?
2) And what's the best way to accomplish the same UserName experience
for multiple users of a local TW 2.4.1 file in FF3 as they've been
accustomed to so far with ver 2.2.5?

~Roger
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[tw] Re: Recommendations for incorporating email messages into a TW?

[roger]

Henk: I'm using FF, so the part about this not working in IE isn't a
problem.  As I understand it, you have the VB macro in Outlook that
drops the message ID into the clipboard.  But then do you just paste
that ID into a tiddler from the clipboard?  In other words, the TW
plugin you mention just acts on the ID in the tiddler?  Despite my
reference to FileDropPlugin, I think I'd prefer not to be forced to
have the TW file open just to associate an email message to the TW.

Anthony: I was thinking about creating an Outlook macro that saves a
selected message(s) to an "email" folder for the chosen TW.  That way,
as email messages come in that I want to associate with a specific TW
file, I could execute a macro to save the message to a specific
location in msg format.  When I'm in the TW file, I could access the
email messages. Obviously, creating a macro in Outlook to facilitate
the process wouldn't be required, but for my purposes, I think it
would speed things along considerably.

Roger

On Feb 24, 2:16 am, Henk  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have made a setup wich creates a link in a tiddler to an Outlook
> email message.  It works fine, but I involves a rather complicated
> setup (mainly because I don't want to use IExplorer).
> This is how it works:
> - a VB macro in Outlook fetches the unique message ID from a selected
> email message and pasts it to the clipboard
> - a tiddlywiki plugin provides a macro which takes the ID and uses
> javascript to open the message in Outlook
> - the browser uses a java applet to communicate with Outlook (not
> needed if you use IExplorer though)
>
> The tricky part is that you need to edit your java.policy file in
> order to get out of the browser java sandbox.
> If people are interested, I can put alle the files and code on my website.
>
> cheers
>
> Henk
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:20 AM,roger wrote:
>
> > I'd really like to have my TW's set up so that emails that I want to
> > associate with a specific TW can somehow be connected.  I don't want
> > to just copy and paste the body of the email as I'd loose all the data
> > associated with the message.  It would be awesome if the drag & drop
> > functionality that FileDropPlugin provides could work with email
> > messages.  Just drag and drop an email from the inbox onto the TW file
> > and have the email embedded into the TW.
>
> > As an alternative, I'm thinking about creating a macro in Outlook (our
> > email client at the office) that would facilitate saving an email
> > message into a directory that is a subfolder to the location of the TW
> > file.  Then I could just use LaunchApplicationPlugin to open the
> > "emails" folder as needed.
>
> > I'm curious if others have come up with satisfactory ways to get email
> > messages associated with a TW file.
>
> > ~Roger
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[tw] Recommendations for incorporating email messages into a TW?

[roger]

I'd really like to have my TW's set up so that emails that I want to
associate with a specific TW can somehow be connected.  I don't want
to just copy and paste the body of the email as I'd loose all the data
associated with the message.  It would be awesome if the drag & drop
functionality that FileDropPlugin provides could work with email
messages.  Just drag and drop an email from the inbox onto the TW file
and have the email embedded into the TW.

As an alternative, I'm thinking about creating a macro in Outlook (our
email client at the office) that would facilitate saving an email
message into a directory that is a subfolder to the location of the TW
file.  Then I could just use LaunchApplicationPlugin to open the
"emails" folder as needed.

I'm curious if others have come up with satisfactory ways to get email
messages associated with a TW file.

~ Roger
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[tw] Re: SetUserNamePlugin & TiddlyLockPlugin

[roger]

Eric, that's way too simple of an approach... :)
I guess with the modifications I made to the UI that's displayed, I
never considered such an obvious solution to the problem.  Thanks.

~Roger
On Feb 20, 12:54 am, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > If the user is set to YourName when a user puts the TW
> > into edit mode, then TiddlyLockPlugin locks the file for editing with
> > the name, YourName.  So if the user follows the prompt created by
> > SetUserNamePlugin, and enters their user name, then they are locked
> > out of editing the tiddler... etc.
>
> One workaround would be to add the <> macro directly in
> your [[MainMenu]] content (or any other tiddler that is always
> rendered on startup), so that all new visitors will automatically be
> asked to enter a non-default username as soon as they open the
> document for the first time.  This ensures that the correct username
> will be set *before* any editing can possibly begin (and thus, before
> any .lck file would be created), thereby avoiding the problem that you
> have described.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] SetUserNamePlugin & TiddlyLockPlugin

[roger]

We started making extensive use of TiddlyWiki's at my office about 8
months ago and it has worked out really well.  However, there are a
couple issues that arise frequently enough to be annoying, but not
often enough to be a deal breaker.

One of those issues is with the way SetUserNamePlugin and
TiddlyLockPlugin bump heads when they are both installed on a
TiddlyWiki.  If the user is set to YourName when a user puts the TW
into edit mode, then TiddlyLockPlugin locks the file for editing with
the name, YourName.  So if the user follows the prompt created by
SetUserNamePlugin, and enters their user name, then they are locked
out of editing the tiddler.  What's worse, the TiddlyLockPlugin's .lck
file doesn't get cleared out and leaves the file set as locked for
editing by YourName.

The user then has to open the .Lck file and remove "YourName" from the
file.  So, it's not hard to fix, but I keep having to show new users
how to fix this problem.

I previously tried to contact Richard Hobbis to see if he might
consider modifying TiddlyLockPlugin so that it would play nice with
SetUserNamePlugin, but I didn't get a response.  I don't know if he's
still involved in the TW community or not.  I'm wondering if anyone
knows how TiddlyLockPlugin might be modified, or whether
SetUserNamePlugin could be modified, or if it's just one of those
things that can't be fixed.

~Roger
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[tw] Re: an open source version of the tiddlyspot server

[roger]

The project sounds very exciting and could really prove beneficial to
a lot of TW users.  I know I'd like to try it out on our intranet.

TWINE is a terrific name.  I'd suggest TWINS: TiddlyWiki Intranet
Server, but it just doesn't sound as good as TWINE, and feels like
plagerism of Eric's suggested name.
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[tw] Re: How to "permalink" to a LOCAL TW-Tiddler from Windows applications like Mindmanager, Word, Thunderbird, ...

[roger]

Oops, I relied to heavily on my memory.  After checking my posts to
the Outlook newsgroup is see that I did report that I was able to open
a permalink using the command line, but that was the only way I could
get to a specific tiddler on a locally stored TW, other than using a
browser of course.

The response I received in the newsgroup was that the file:// protocol
is different than the html:// protocol.  If that's the case then I'm
very surprised that the permalink would work when I called up the
browser from the command line and passed the permalink url to it that
way.

~Roger

On Jan 6, 12:59 pm, roger  wrote:
> I was trying to get the permalinks to work in Outlook 2007 and finally
> posed the question in the MS Outlook newsgroup.  The only answer I
> received was that processing html anchors (a/k/a permalinks) doesn't
> work with local files.  I don't know why that's the case, but it
> doesn't seem to have anything to do with firefox as I couldn't open a
> local file to the permalinked tiddler using IE, Chrome or Firefox.  I
> didn't try any other browsers.  And it didn't matter which Windows
> application I was attempting to use as the permalink failed regardless
> of whether I was in Excel, Outlook, Word, OpenOffice Writer, Outlook
> Express... heck I even tried to do with Launchy and also batch file,
> all to no avail.
>
> I moved the TW file I was working with online and tested the same
> permalink from Outlook and it worked fine.  For some reason, if the
> html file is stored locally, then the browser either won't process the
> anchor (#) or the anchor doesn't even get passed to the browser in
> the first place.
>
> I'm sure there's someone who knows why Windows behaves this way, but I
> couldn't track down the technical reason why that's the way it works
> (or doesn't work).
>
> ~ Roger
>
> On Jan 6, 8:54 am, FND  wrote:
>
> > >>> that way a cookie exception can be added for localhost
>
> > > does the way, how the URL is processed by Firefox 3 depend on some
> > > cookies?
>
> > No; that page describes a workaround for Firefox 3's cookie issue - I
> > just thought it might help in your case as well (which doesn't seem to
> > be the case, unfortunately).
>
> > > it would be really very helpful for the use of TW it it was
> > > possible to set hyperlinks from other windows application to a
> > > specific tiddler (on a locally stored TW)
>
> > As I've said, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work - anyone on
> > Windows who can confirm this issue?
>
> > -- F.
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[tw] Re: How to "permalink" to a LOCAL TW-Tiddler from Windows applications like Mindmanager, Word, Thunderbird, ...

[roger]

I was trying to get the permalinks to work in Outlook 2007 and finally
posed the question in the MS Outlook newsgroup.  The only answer I
received was that processing html anchors (a/k/a permalinks) doesn't
work with local files.  I don't know why that's the case, but it
doesn't seem to have anything to do with firefox as I couldn't open a
local file to the permalinked tiddler using IE, Chrome or Firefox.  I
didn't try any other browsers.  And it didn't matter which Windows
application I was attempting to use as the permalink failed regardless
of whether I was in Excel, Outlook, Word, OpenOffice Writer, Outlook
Express... heck I even tried to do with Launchy and also batch file,
all to no avail.

I moved the TW file I was working with online and tested the same
permalink from Outlook and it worked fine.  For some reason, if the
html file is stored locally, then the browser either won't process the
anchor (#) or the anchor doesn't even get passed to the browser in
the first place.

I'm sure there's someone who knows why Windows behaves this way, but I
couldn't track down the technical reason why that's the way it works
(or doesn't work).

~ Roger

On Jan 6, 8:54 am, FND  wrote:
> >>> that way a cookie exception can be added for localhost
>
> > does the way, how the URL is processed by Firefox 3 depend on some
> > cookies?
>
> No; that page describes a workaround for Firefox 3's cookie issue - I
> just thought it might help in your case as well (which doesn't seem to
> be the case, unfortunately).
>
> > it would be really very helpful for the use of TW it it was
> > possible to set hyperlinks from other windows application to a
> > specific tiddler (on a locally stored TW)
>
> As I've said, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't work - anyone on
> Windows who can confirm this issue?
>
> -- F.
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[tw] Sidebar not renderinging properly

[Roger Alexander]

I'm new to TiddlyWiki, so I may be missing something. The sidebar on
TW is not rendering properly. In particular, the sidebar is displaying
the following:

<><><><><><><>
index »


This is occurring with both local TWs, and with the main TW site
itself (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/http://www.tiddlywiki.com/). I get
the same behavior with IE, Safari, and Firefox.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Roger Alexander.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki on SharePoint?

[roger]

Thanks Ken.
I haven't had time to explore the potential of using SharePoint with
TW very much, other than to see that some plugins we use worked, and
others didn't.  One of the issues was with ShowLocalDirectory, which
we use constantly.  Using SharePoint, an  that displays the
subfolder would probably provide similar functionality.  TW is working
out really well for us as a sort of case management tool with the TW's
stored on and accessed from the local network, but when I get some
time, I'd like to explore how our current process would work if the TW
files and their respective subfolders were on Sharepoint.

~Roger

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> G'day Roger,
>
> I have a TiddlyWiki on aSharepoint.  The TW embeds a FreeMind mind
> map from a subfolder quite happily.
>
> I haven't tried but if you really need to reference otherSharepoint
> files you'd probably have to use quite complicated relative paths,
> e.g. ../../../down/to/file
> --
> Regards
> Ken
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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

I inquired about this issue in the Outlook newsgroup and the
individual who has been responding doesn't think it's really an
Outlook issue but a Windows issue.  So I'm wondering can anyone access
a permalink tiddler in a TW from a hyperlink in any Windows
application.  As far as I can tell, a permalink will only work from
within a browser, either pasted into the address bar, hyperlinked from
within a TW or other webpage, or bookmarked.  If I try to make use of
a permalink in any other application, the TW will open, but not to the
permalinked tiddler.

~Roger

On Nov 26, 5:36 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought about that and really hoped it would solve my problem.
> Unfortunately, using localhost just gets me to the default tiddler(s),
> same as before.
>
> On Nov 26, 11:23 am, FND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > My problems accessing a permalink from an Outlook email hyperlink is
> > > limited to a TiddlyWiki saved on the local file system.
>
> > You could try using a localhost URL - e.g.
> >      file://localhost/c:/myTW.html#Item1
> > instead of
> >      file:///c:/myTW.html#Item1
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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

I thought about that and really hoped it would solve my problem.
Unfortunately, using localhost just gets me to the default tiddler(s),
same as before.

On Nov 26, 11:23 am, FND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My problems accessing a permalink from an Outlook email hyperlink is
> > limited to a TiddlyWiki saved on the local file system.
>
> You could try using a localhost URL - e.g.
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> instead of
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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

My problems accessing a permalink from an Outlook email hyperlink is
limited to a TiddlyWiki saved on the local file system.  So a
hyperlink to http://myTW.html#Item1 will open the TW with the Item1
tiddler being displayed.  A hyperlink to file:///c:/myTW.html#Item1
will open the TW with the default tiddler(s) being displayed.

~Roger
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On Nov 25, 7:14 am, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, I also think it's a MS issue... But I think the issue lies with the
> > #...
>
> I was thinking it must be a MS issue as well, until I discovered that
> the permalinks were being handled (mishandled) by OpenOffice too.
>
> > that somehow separates the destination from parameters.  Is there not a
> > "code" for a #?
>
> When I tried to substitute %23 for #  in a permalink URL, the
> hyperlink wouldn't open at all in Outlook 2007, Word 2007 or
> OpenOffice, but the base URL would still open from Outlook Express.
>
>  ~Roger
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[tw] Re: Is TiddlySnip broken for Firefox 3.03

[roger]

There's an update for TiddlySnip.  I installed it and all is good
again.

Here's the thread where it's discussed:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/b8fe1f7c7c2236c0/7795cef33442823b?lnk=gst&q=TiddlySnip+Firefox+3#7795cef33442823b


Here's the link to the message that contains the upgrade:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlySnip/browse_thread/thread/8846404dc903c859

~Roger

On Nov 25, 4:36 pm, Jason Cunliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> {oh no}I stopped working on my TW for a few months. And now
> TiddlySnip plugin won't load in Firefox versoin 3.03
> Please can anyone tell me what to do so I can use TiddlySnip again ?
> Thanks very much
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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

> Yes, I also think it's a MS issue... But I think the issue lies with the
> #...

I was thinking it must be a MS issue as well, until I discovered that
the permalinks were being handled (mishandled) by OpenOffice too.


> that somehow separates the destination from parameters.  Is there not a
> "code" for a #?

When I tried to substitute %23 for #  in a permalink URL, the
hyperlink wouldn't open at all in Outlook 2007, Word 2007 or
OpenOffice, but the base URL would still open from Outlook Express.

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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

Following up on my previous post.  I thought it might be an Outlook
2007 issue.  Apparently Microsoft has Outlook 2007 designed to use
Word to render the HTML for email messages.  The same problems I
described in connection with opening a permalink from an Outlook email
message also occurs when accessing a permalink from a Word 2007
document.

Then I tried pasting a permalink in an OpenOffice document.  The ]] at
the end of the URL had to be converted to %5D%5D in order for the
entire URL to be recognized.  However, the end result was the same.
Clicking the permalink resulted in the base URL opening, but not the
actual permalinked tiddler.

Then I tried Outlook Express.  Same results.

The only way I can get a permalink to work correctly is when I paste
the permalink directly into the address bar of a browser, or as a
hyperlink in an html document, such as a TiddlyWiki document or other
web page.

~Roger

On Nov 24, 8:44 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was trying to overcome this same permalink issue as well.  We use
> Firefox 3 in our office and Outlook as our email client.  Whenever a
> permalink is pasted into an email message, the final two ]] aren't
> recognized by Outlook as part of the URL.  I thought this limitation
> could be overcome by fixing the email message.  So I wrote a macro
> that would perform a find and replace on the [[ and ]] with %5B%5B and
> %5D%5D respectively.  I then set up a Rule in Outlook that runs the
> macro on incoming email messages.  That whole process works fine.  A
> permalink generated by Firefox 3 can be pasted pasted into an email
> and sent to a co-worker.  When the message is received, the macro
> automatically fixes the hyperlink, so the user doesn't have to be
> bothered with editing the URL.
>
> Unfortunately, it seems that Outlook will only pass the base URL to
> the browser (whatever the browser, IE, Firefox, Chrome).  For example,
> if the email contains:
> file:///C:/TW/TiddlyWiki.html#%5B%5BTask%20List%5D%5D
> Clicking that link in Outlook results in file:///C:/TW/TiddlyWiki.html
> opening with the default tiddlers, rather than opening at tiddler
> "Task List".
>
> As far as I can tell, this is just the way Outlook handles such a
> URL.  I'm trying to find out if there is a way to override this
> behavior.  Bottom line: permalinks don't seem to work with Outlook,
> regardless of the URL contains ]]'s or the encoded equivalent.
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Nov 24, 9:50 am, "Reenen Laurie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Will FF3 change this behaviour?
>
> > But thanks, most people is on IE, and it'll work there (I tested).
>
> > I actually tried PermalinkPlugin, which works, just not with IE.  I thought
> > it didn't actually, but now I know it does.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Apparently, when I send and email, the link doesn't get followed.  It
> > > only
> > > > opens the wiki, and doesn't (for some reason), follow the link.
>
> > > 
>
> > > The problem is the [[ and ]]...
>
> > > In FF2, these were correctly encoded as "%5B" and "%5D",
> > > respectively.  However, starting with FF3, the browser began forcing
> > > these back to [ and ], even though the TiddlyWiki core *is* still
> > > encoding them properly, just as before.
>
> > > Unfortunately, the source of this problem seems to lie entirely within
> > > the Firefox runtime, and there doesn't appear to be anything we can do
> > > to work around it... :-(  In fact, the ticket for this problem (http://
> > > trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/629) was just closed 5 days ago...
>
> > > > Any advice?
>
> > > You can *hand edit* the permalink when you paste it into your email,
> > > and replace the [ and ] with their properly encoded equivalents, like
> > > this:
>
> > > file:///M:/Logistics%20shared/General/Wiki/TraineeWiki.html#%5B%5BHow%20to%20format%20my%20DP%20bold%5D%5D
>
> > > enjoy,
> > > -e
> > > Eric Shulman
> > > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>
> > --
> > o__
> > ,_.>/ _
> > (_)_\(_)___
> > ...speed is good
> > ___
> > I believe five out of four people have a problem with fractions.
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[tw] Re: How do I "permalink" in an email

[roger]

I was trying to overcome this same permalink issue as well.  We use
Firefox 3 in our office and Outlook as our email client.  Whenever a
permalink is pasted into an email message, the final two ]] aren't
recognized by Outlook as part of the URL.  I thought this limitation
could be overcome by fixing the email message.  So I wrote a macro
that would perform a find and replace on the [[ and ]] with %5B%5B and
%5D%5D respectively.  I then set up a Rule in Outlook that runs the
macro on incoming email messages.  That whole process works fine.  A
permalink generated by Firefox 3 can be pasted pasted into an email
and sent to a co-worker.  When the message is received, the macro
automatically fixes the hyperlink, so the user doesn't have to be
bothered with editing the URL.

Unfortunately, it seems that Outlook will only pass the base URL to
the browser (whatever the browser, IE, Firefox, Chrome).  For example,
if the email contains:
file:///C:/TW/TiddlyWiki.html#%5B%5BTask%20List%5D%5D
Clicking that link in Outlook results in file:///C:/TW/TiddlyWiki.html
opening with the default tiddlers, rather than opening at tiddler
"Task List".

As far as I can tell, this is just the way Outlook handles such a
URL.  I'm trying to find out if there is a way to override this
behavior.  Bottom line: permalinks don't seem to work with Outlook,
regardless of the URL contains ]]'s or the encoded equivalent.

~Roger

On Nov 24, 9:50 am, "Reenen Laurie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will FF3 change this behaviour?
>
> But thanks, most people is on IE, and it'll work there (I tested).
>
> I actually tried PermalinkPlugin, which works, just not with IE.  I thought
> it didn't actually, but now I know it does.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Apparently, when I send and email, the link doesn't get followed.  It
> > only
> > > opens the wiki, and doesn't (for some reason), follow the link.
>
> > 
>
> > The problem is the [[ and ]]...
>
> > In FF2, these were correctly encoded as "%5B" and "%5D",
> > respectively.  However, starting with FF3, the browser began forcing
> > these back to [ and ], even though the TiddlyWiki core *is* still
> > encoding them properly, just as before.
>
> > Unfortunately, the source of this problem seems to lie entirely within
> > the Firefox runtime, and there doesn't appear to be anything we can do
> > to work around it... :-(  In fact, the ticket for this problem (http://
> > trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/629) was just closed 5 days ago...
>
> > > Any advice?
>
> > You can *hand edit* the permalink when you paste it into your email,
> > and replace the [ and ] with their properly encoded equivalents, like
> > this:
>
> > file:///M:/Logistics%20shared/General/Wiki/TraineeWiki.html#%5B%5BHow%20to%20format%20my%20DP%20bold%5D%5D
>
> > enjoy,
> > -e
> > Eric Shulman
> > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>
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> (_)_\(_)___
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> ___
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[tw] Re: Could use help understanding cookies in the cookiejar

[roger]

Maybe I can answer my own question here.  By installing
CookieManagerPlugin and CookieJar, I can discover all the cookies used
by my TW.
Next I can bake the cookies to place all those cookie settings in the
CookieJar.  Then copy and paste all the cookie settings that I want to
have in effect regardless of who opens the TW (or a copy thereof) into
a ConfigTweaks tiddler tagged with systemConfig.

If I'm correct, then I don't really need to be running any of the
various Cookie plugins in order to have the cookie settings I'm
concerned about take effect.  I just need to make use of at least
CookieManagerPlugin and CookieJarPlugin to track down all the cookies
and establish their respective settings.  Once I have the cookies I'm
interested in hard coded into ConfigTweaks, then I could uninstall
CookieManager and CookieJar from my template TW.

At least, I don't see a reason that won't accomplish what I want.

~Roger

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> I have a TW put together that I want to use as a template, if you
> will, for other TW's.  This template TW includes plugins that offer
> options that are turned on or off with checkboxes.  For example, the
> SinglePageModePlugin.  As I understand it, the state of checkboxes in
> such plugins is maintained by cookies.
>
> I want to be able to copy the template TW with the assurance that the
> values established for the various plugin options all remain the same
> in the new TW, as they are in the template TW.  I want this to be
> true, for myself, as well as for others who would access the new TW
> from their own PC.  Assume everyone would be using FF3 as the browser.
>
> Does the above scenario require the used of the CookieSaverPlugin and
> the CookieJarPlugin?
> Are CookieManagerPlugin and CookieManagerPluginConfig also required?
>
> Can some of the cookies be "hard coded" (as described 
> here:http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Configuration_Options) but others
> cannot; and therefore, have to be stored in a CookieJar?
>
> (I guess I don't have a clear understanding of how all these Cookie
> plugins interact.  Eric's documentation for them is excellent, as
> always, but sometimes I'm a bit slow on the uptake.)
>
> ~Roger
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki on SharePoint?

[roger]

Thanks FND.  That does help.

On Nov 22, 9:39 am, FND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anyone worked with a TiddlyWiki when it's stored on SharePoint?
>
> Take a look at this recent thread:
>      http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/t/d5fbd5b84adc0141
>
> > I assume the "read only" problem can be fixed
>
> I'm not at all familiar with SharePoint, but I assume it would have to
> be treated like a server-side component - so ideally, someone would
> write an adaptor* to interact with SharePoint.
>
> -- F.
>
> *http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Server_Adaptor_Mechanism
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[tw] TiddlyWiki on SharePoint?

[roger]

Has anyone worked with a TiddlyWiki when it's stored on SharePoint?
I've been exploring the possibilities, but ran into the following
issues:

1. The TiddlyWiki is read only.
2. LaunchApplicationPlugin doesn't work.
3. The ability to store and access content in subfolders is gone.

At least the above are issues I've encountered.  I didn't know if any
of them could be overcome.  I assume the "read only" problem can be
fixed, but the other two perhaps cannot.

~Roger
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[tw] Could use help understanding cookies in the cookiejar

[roger]

I have a TW put together that I want to use as a template, if you
will, for other TW's.  This template TW includes plugins that offer
options that are turned on or off with checkboxes.  For example, the
SinglePageModePlugin.  As I understand it, the state of checkboxes in
such plugins is maintained by cookies.

I want to be able to copy the template TW with the assurance that the
values established for the various plugin options all remain the same
in the new TW, as they are in the template TW.  I want this to be
true, for myself, as well as for others who would access the new TW
from their own PC.  Assume everyone would be using FF3 as the browser.

Does the above scenario require the used of the CookieSaverPlugin and
the CookieJarPlugin?
Are CookieManagerPlugin and CookieManagerPluginConfig also required?

Can some of the cookies be "hard coded" (as described here:
http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Configuration_Options) but others
cannot; and therefore, have to be stored in a CookieJar?

(I guess I don't have a clear understanding of how all these Cookie
plugins interact.  Eric's documentation for them is excellent, as
always, but sometimes I'm a bit slow on the uptake.)

~Roger
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[tw] Re: What's the "best" way to use permalinks with ]] at the end

[roger]

Oh, I wasn't aware.  Yes, I've been using FF3, but the rest of the
staff is still on FF2.  Thanks.
~Roger


On Nov 19, 8:05 am, FND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > thinking it would encode the [['s and ]]'s, but it didn't
>
> I assume you're using Firefox 3? That's a known issue:
>      http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox_3#Permalinks
>
> I'm afraid there's no way for us to work around that, as we can't
> influence how the browser handles this.
>
> -- F.
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[tw] Re: What's the "best" way to use permalinks with ]] at the end

[roger]

I located FND's PermalinkPlugin
http://fnd.lewcid.org/MTS/#PermalinkPlugin
I gave it a try thinking it would encode the [['s and ]]'s, but it
didn't.


On Nov 18, 5:13 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ken, thanks.
> That information helps, but is there a script, plugin, or
> modification, that automatically replaces the brackets and blank
> space?
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Nov 18, 4:11 pm, Ken Girard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >http://tiddlyvault.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BWelcome%20to%20the%20TiddlyV...
>
> > %5B = [
> > %20 = 
> > %5D = ]
>
> > Ken Girard
>
> > On Nov 18, 2:13 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I'd like to take better advantage of the permalink feature.  However
> > > emailing the permalink or pasting it into a tiddler doesn't work so
> > > well when the tiddler title contains spaces when the last two
> > > characters in the link are the two ]]'s that enclose the tiddler
> > > title.
>
> > > The only way I've been able to get such a permalink to work from
> > > within a tiddler is to put the permalink inside an html hyperlink.
> > > ( link ).
>
> > > Is there another way to create a cut and paste permalink that doesn't
> > > break down when pasted into an email, or a tiddler?  Of course, I
> > > could try to explain to my fellow TW user's at the office that they
> > > need to add the two ]]'s back into the URL, but would like to know if
> > > there is another option.
>
> > > ~Roger
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[tw] Re: What's the "best" way to use permalinks with ]] at the end

[roger]

Ken, thanks.
That information helps, but is there a script, plugin, or
modification, that automatically replaces the brackets and blank
space?

~Roger

On Nov 18, 4:11 pm, Ken Girard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://tiddlyvault.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BWelcome%20to%20the%20TiddlyV...
>
> %5B = [
> %20 = 
> %5D = ]
>
> Ken Girard
>
> On Nov 18, 2:13 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to take better advantage of the permalink feature.  However
> > emailing the permalink or pasting it into a tiddler doesn't work so
> > well when the tiddler title contains spaces when the last two
> > characters in the link are the two ]]'s that enclose the tiddler
> > title.
>
> > The only way I've been able to get such a permalink to work from
> > within a tiddler is to put the permalink inside an html hyperlink.
> > ( link ).
>
> > Is there another way to create a cut and paste permalink that doesn't
> > break down when pasted into an email, or a tiddler?  Of course, I
> > could try to explain to my fellow TW user's at the office that they
> > need to add the two ]]'s back into the URL, but would like to know if
> > there is another option.
>
> > ~Roger
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[tw] What's the "best" way to use permalinks with ]] at the end

[roger]

I'd like to take better advantage of the permalink feature.  However
emailing the permalink or pasting it into a tiddler doesn't work so
well when the tiddler title contains spaces when the last two
characters in the link are the two ]]'s that enclose the tiddler
title.

The only way I've been able to get such a permalink to work from
within a tiddler is to put the permalink inside an html hyperlink.
( link ).

Is there another way to create a cut and paste permalink that doesn't
break down when pasted into an email, or a tiddler?  Of course, I
could try to explain to my fellow TW user's at the office that they
need to add the two ]]'s back into the URL, but would like to know if
there is another option.

~Roger
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[tw] Re: over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

[roger]

Oh, OK.  Eric, am I correct that ConfirmExitPlugin replaced
SaveOnExitPlugin?  I've been updating the TW we use at our office as
the template for all the TW's we create.  I had been using
SaveOnExitPlugin but in the process of getting all the plugins up to
date I couldn't find that plugin on TiddlyTools.com anymore.

FND, you're correct I was bouncing between Chrome and Firefox and
ended up confusing myself.

~Roger


> These messages are displayed using a standard browser-native function:
>    confirm("message")
> which displays an appliation-modal dialog box with the indicated
> message text along with two buttons labeled "OK" and "Cancel".
> Unfortunately, while you can specify the message text to be displayed,
> you cannot specify the text for the OK/Cancel buttons, nor the title
> of the dialog itself.  Sorry.
>
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] over-ride (or modify title of) javascript alert?

[roger]

How do I make it so that the alert window which opens when leaving/
closing a TW with unsaved saved changes?  I'd prefer if the title in
the window read "Confirm" instead of "[javascript application]".
Similar to the way TiddlyVault and TiddlyTools are set up.

Also, I have Eric's ConfirmExitPlugin installed.  How can I make the
option buttons read "Leave this page" and "Stay on this page" instead
of "OK" and "Cancel"?

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[tw] Re: Can't open subfolders from table generated by ShowLocalDirectory script

[roger]

Yes, that works great!!  Thank you Eric.
~Roger

On Nov 1, 12:10 pm, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Eric, giving this a bump per your suggestion.  Thanks.
> > > In order to make it work properly, I may have to re-write
> > > a non-trivial portion of the rendering logic to bypass this $1
> > > substitution problem.
>
> OK.  I've just completed a re-write of the rendering logic.  Rather
> than using the refreshTiddler() function to update the entire tiddler,
> ShowLocalDirectory now uses wikify() to directly render the listing
> into a specially-defined DIV.
>
> In addition to solving the 'subfolder navigation problem' by bypassing
> the core's tiddler refresh handling, this change also makes it
> possible to embed the output into non-tiddler display areas (such as
> header, main menu, etc.), since it no longer depends upon refreshing
> the tiddler to update the listing.
>
> Get the update here:
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ShowLocalDirectory(v1.2.0)
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
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[tw] Re: Can't open subfolders from table generated by ShowLocalDirectory script

[roger]

Eric, giving this a bump per your suggestion.  Thanks.
~Roger

On Oct 23, 12:36 am, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > bump
>
> ... a quick investigation suggests the problem is with how the
> <> parameter passing is handling the use of $1
> (the initial directory to display) when the tiddler content is being
> refreshed.  In order to make it work properly, I may have to re-write
> a non-trivial portion of the rendering logic to bypass this $1
> substitution problem.
>
> I've got some scheduled events this week that take priority, so I
> probably won't be able to get to this until sometime next week.  Give
> it another bump if you don't hear anything after then.
>
> thanks,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
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[tw] Re: Sharing a TW over a local network

[roger]

Kevin,
We make extensive use of TW's at my office and TiddlyLock is a
necessity for us.
Occasionally a user will be locked out of a TW when they shouldn't be,
but their are only two types of events that seem to be connected to
that problem.
We have the SetUserName plugin installed that checks the username and
if it's still set as YourName, then the user is prompted to enter
their username when they try to create or edit a tiddler.  However, if
you're running tiddlylock, then the username in TW.lck gets set to
YourName, so entering a username as requested by the SetUserName
prompt, the user ends up being locked out of the TW by YourName.
Fortunately, that's not a recurring type of problem.

The more common situation we've run into is that some type of problem
occurs when saving the file.  Once the TW is put into edit mode,
the .lck file is updated with the necessary information (timestamp and
username).  If for some reason the file isn't saved after the edit,
then .lck never gets updated.  We have autosave turned on and
ConfirmExitPlugin to assist in making sure that if a TW has been
modified, that the updated TW is saved.  But if a user ignores the
prompts or a browser session crashes or something else happens that
results in the TW not being saved, then the .lck file has to be
deleted or at least the username has to be deleted from the .lck
file's content.

As for explaining to other users how to correct the problem if a TW is
locked when it shouldn't be, you could include a tiddler that explains
the solution and add it to the menu of the TW.  I suppose you could
also create a batch file that deletes the .lck when it's messed up and
access the batch file with a tiddler using LaunchApplicationPlugin.
Deleting the .lck file could just be a click away.  Of course, that
could be put to use when the TW really is being edited by another
user, which would frustrate the purpose of using TiddlyLock in the
first place.

~Roger

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[tw] Re: Firefox 2.0.16 blocking IncludePlugin functionality?

[roger]

I gave disabling extentions a try and it didn't change anything.  I
checked with another TW that's running TW core 2.4.1 and the included
tiddlers are not showing up in that TW either, although they do if I
view the TW file with Google Chrome.

On Oct 30, 9:30 pm, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Firefox extensions can interfere. Disable them and then try again.
>
> W.
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[tw] Re: Firefox 2.0.16 blocking IncludePlugin functionality?

[roger]

Wolfgang,
I upgraded Firefox to 2.0.0.17 and checked one of my TW's again.  In
Google Chrome the Included TW's tiddlers show up.  But in Firefox they
don't.  Since IncludePlugin works for you, I agree that there must be
another reason why IncludePlugin isn't working properly for me in
Firefox.  Any idea what else could cause a situation where
IncludePlugin works with some browsers, but not others?

~Roger

On Oct 30, 6:19 am, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> > TW core 2.2.5
> > IncludePlugin 1.0.1
>
> I use:
>
> TW 2.4.1
> IncludePlugin 1.0.1
> Firefox 2.0.0.17
> XP SP2
>
> and including works. So there might be different causes at work in
> your case.
>
> Regards,
>
> W.
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[tw] Firefox 2.0.16 blocking IncludePlugin functionality?

[roger]

I have a TW that I include into several other TW's using the
IncludePlugin.  I have an IncludeList tiddler in the TW's that
references the TW that's to be included when the the TW's load.

TW core 2.2.5
IncludePlugin 1.0.1

This has been working fine for several months.  Recently I noticed
that the TW referenced by the IncludeList tiddler is no longer being
included.  Upon further investigation I discovered that:

If I use Chrome the included TW is present.
If I use Firefox 2.0.14 or earlier, the included TW is present.
If I use Firefox 2.0.16 or IE 7.0 the included TW isn't there.

I primarily use Firefox so the fact that the IncludePlugin isn't
working in IE 7.0 doesn't really bother me.

Is there a fix for this?

~Roger
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[tw] Re: TW disappears after error saving file

[roger]

Thanks Wolfgang,
I may just wait to see if some kind of pattern emerges that helps
narrow down the potential cause of this.  We have multiple users
accessing multiple TW's, but any given TW may only be modified 4 or 5
times a month.  Or, I guess I can work with a test copy of a TW using
all the same plugins and see if I can replicate the problem then start
disabling plugins on the test TW.

Roger

On Oct 26, 8:33 am, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> > The OS is WinXP.  Also, I'm using the LessBackupsPlugin and the
> > TiddlyLockPlugin. I don't know if those plugins might play a role in
> > the problem or not.
>
> > I read the suggestions at the link you provided.  However, the problem
> > is so random that I don't think it's something I can track down that
> > way.
>
> I still would suggest disabling your plugins one by one. The only
> problem with this: you wouldn't know for a long time, since this error
> happens only erratically.
>
> W.
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[tw] Re: TW disappears after error saving file

[roger]

The OS is WinXP.  Also, I'm using the LessBackupsPlugin and the
TiddlyLockPlugin. I don't know if those plugins might play a role in
the problem or not.

I read the suggestions at the link you provided.  However, the problem
is so random that I don't think it's something I can track down that
way.  The TW's all run the same plugins, they operate perfectly fine
nearly all the time, the only exception is when one of them
"evaporates" during a save.  It seems strange to me when I have
an .html file that contains ~ 800 kb of information, then in the
course of saving changes to that file, I end up with an .html file
that contains 0 bytes.  I don't know what could cause the loss of all
the data in a file.

On Oct 25, 5:32 am, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> > However, when this particular error happens, the entire contents of
> > the TW file are gone.  I'm left with an empty html file.  If I open
> > the file in Notepad, there's literally nothing in the file.  Is this
> > just an inherent risk associated with TW or am I experiencing a unique
> > problem?
>
> I use TW extensively since more than one year - but such an error
> never occurred to me and I therefore assume that this has something to
> do with your configuration. What OS you're on? See 
> alsohttp://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Troublefor pinning this error down.
>
> Regards,
>
> W.
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[tw] TW disappears after error saving file

[roger]

I have several TW's (ver. 2.2.5) installed and stored on a network
drive.  I work with the files using Firefox 2.0.x.  Autosave is turned
on.  Sometimes after adding a new tiddler (which activates the
autosave) the save procedure fails for some reason.  If that failure
only resulted in the loss of the new tiddler that was just added, it
wouldn't be that bad.

However, when this particular error happens, the entire contents of
the TW file are gone.  I'm left with an empty html file.  If I open
the file in Notepad, there's literally nothing in the file.  Is this
just an inherent risk associated with TW or am I experiencing a unique
problem?

I do have auto backups turned on as well and can recover a version of
the TW as it existed prior to the file saving failure, although
generally the most recent auto backup file is also an empty file.

~ Roger
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[tw] Re: Can't open subfolders from table generated by ShowLocalDirectory script

[roger]

bump

On Oct 19, 9:09 pm, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have Eric's ShowLocalDirectory script installed.  If I use the
> script without any filepath parameters i.e. < ShowLocalDirectory>> then I can navigate within the table to any
> parent or child folders in the local directory.
>
> If I use the script with a localpath parameter to display the contents
> of a specified directory, i.e. < localpath format>> then the parent and child folders still show up in
> the table listing, but when I click on them no action occurs.
>
> Is it possible to navigate to parent and child folders when displaying
> the contents of a specified directory?
>
> ~ Roger
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[tw] Can't open subfolders from table generated by ShowLocalDirectory script

[roger]

I have Eric's ShowLocalDirectory script installed.  If I use the
script without any filepath parameters i.e. <> then I can navigate within the table to any
parent or child folders in the local directory.

If I use the script with a localpath parameter to display the contents
of a specified directory, i.e. <> then the parent and child folders still show up in
the table listing, but when I click on them no action occurs.

Is it possible to navigate to parent and child folders when displaying
the contents of a specified directory?

~ Roger
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[tw] Re: Plugin for displaying tagged tiddlers in a table?

[roger]

Perfect.  Thank you Eric.

On Oct 19, 11:57 am, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > var fmt="| %0 |%1: <>| %2 |\n";
>
> Adding the [[...]] was exactly the right thing to do.
>
> > Is it possible to code the script so that the tiddlers are displayed
> > in descending order (newest to oldest) in the table?
>
> Replace this:
>    var tids=store.getTaggedTiddlers(tag);
> with:
>    var tids=store.getTaggedTiddlers(tag,'modified').reverse();
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: Plugin for displaying tagged tiddlers in a table?

[roger]

That's awesome Eric.  However, the script would only include the body
of the tiddlers if the tiddler title was in wiki format.  So a tiddler
titled "MyNotes" would have the body of the tiddler inserted into the
table, but a tiddler titled "My Notes" would only contain the title.

Despite my utter lack of javascript knowledge I know they say that
even a blind squirrel will find a nut sometimes, so I tried

var fmt="| %0 |%1: <>| %2 |\n";

and that fixed the problem.

Is it possible to code the script so that the tiddlers are displayed
in descending order (newest to oldest) in the table?

~Roger

On Oct 17, 10:45 am, Eric Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 17, 7:36 am, roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to display certain tagged tiddlers in a table in the
> > following format, rather than sequentially as individual tiddlers (as
> > would happen if I select "Open All" with the OpenTaggedTiddlers
> > plugin).
>
> If you install
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin
> then you can embed the following inline script [*] in a tiddler to
> produce the output format that you want
> ---
> 
>         var tag="faq";
>         var hdr="| Date | Body | Author |\n";
>         var fmt="| %0 |%1: <<tiddler %1>>| %2 |\n";
>         var tids=store.getTaggedTiddlers(tag);
>         var out=[hdr];
>         for (var i=0; i<tids.length; i++) {
>                 var when=tids[i].created.formatString("DDD, MMM DDth,
> <br>0hh12:0mm:0ss am");
>                 var what=tids[i].title;
>                 var who=tids[i].modifier;
>                 out.push(fmt.format([when,what,who]));
>         }
>         return out.join('');
> 
> ---
>
> [*] For more info on inline scripting, see
>    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#FAQ_ScriptsAndPlugins
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
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[tw] Plugin for displaying tagged tiddlers in a table?

[roger]

I'd like to display certain tagged tiddlers in a table in the
following format, rather than sequentially as individual tiddlers (as
would happen if I select "Open All" with the OpenTaggedTiddlers
plugin).

--
|  Date   |   Body   |
Author|
--
| Date Tiddler Created | Tiddler Title: Tiddler body | Tiddler Author
|
--

(The text in the "Body" column would need to be able to wrap.)

Is there a plugin that already provides this kind of capability, or is
it more a matter of modifying the stylesheet?

~ Roger

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