[SlimDevices: Touch] where is the music database stored?
I was wondering where the Touch stores the music database - in internal memory or on the connected USB device/SD card? If it should be the latter, is it possible to disconnect one device and connect another without having to rescan, assuming they both have been scanned before? -- skate skate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77100 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Bruce B;532602 Wrote: Yes... you're missing something... and I'm trying to defend myself again and wasting time... The digital output for both the Playback Designs MPS-5 and the EMM Labs CDSD-SE... of which we both use, is a direct DSD data stream from the ST-optical output. Unfortunately the reference you linked to doesn't mention it. http://stereophile.com/hirezplayers/playback_designs_mps-5_sacdcd_player/index4.html Regards, _ Puget Sound Studios Seattle, WA Hi Bruce, Thanks for your attempt at clarity, Mortslim just has a religious thing, I wish he would kill off his continuous inuendos. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Apple Lossless limitations?
demicco;532580 Wrote: When playing off a local USB drive, is seeking in ALAC files possible? No - see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server#Format_Restrictions When playing ALAC files off a local USB drive, do gapless tracks play as they should? Eric Yes -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77095 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Refreshing library after updates + streaming ALAC to SB Radio +
Touch can't transcode. The full list of Touch supported formats I do not know. If Radio can't play ALAC natively then getting ALAC songs from Touch will not work. :( -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Refreshing library after updates + streaming ALAC to SB Radio +
See post 5 6 in this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76990 It could be read that if the bugs are sorted then native 16bit ALAC might be possible. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77106 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
mortslim;532596 Wrote: Actually, this seems to suggest that rather than the analog output of the transport, the digital output is being used (which per the specs of the transport is 16bits / 44.1kHz) Am I missing something here? Apparently yes. Both Bruce and HDTracks have categorically denied your claims/interpretation. And said there is material in the tracks, above 22k (i.e., proof of source). In an earlier response to me, HDTracks said they do not upsample, and claimed they will remove from their site hi-res tracks they find to be upsampled. We now have an example where this seems to be true - they deleted suspicious files from their catalogue, pending review. To my way of thinking, any more back and forth about HDTracks is rather pointless, unless someone comes up with proof (not interpretation) that they are selling tracks as 24/88 or 24/96 that are upsampled. And if you do, you should alert them, as they've shown they are willing to do the right thing. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Thanks -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
Hello, Are analogue/digital VU screensavers available for the Touch? -- didbox didbox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Apple Lossless limitations?
Seeking in native AAC/ALAC files is supported in 7.6, but we don't have Touch builds for this yet. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77095 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?
awy;532691 Wrote: No Bummer. I imagine there is no chance of it being added down the road either? -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71303 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Perhaps the reason why wireless causes a problem and wired does not is that there might be some CPU usage overhead to the wireless networking. This overhead could take CPU away from the playback? Just a guess. It may also be something other than CPU and just be some level of data channel getting blocked when networking is coming over wireless. I'm sure Logitech would know exactly the issue if they care to share. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive
iPhone;532478 Wrote: Just exactly why is it Logitech's issue and why should they have thought or cared about it?! Because the Use Case for the the device is to leverage a UDB drive or a card. If the intent was to support USB drives and its possible and common to have drives that require a little more juice then you make a product that supports that. I appreciate your desire to support logitech and be a good forum member and jump in to defend. I'm sympathetic to your cause. Honest. At the same time very very few people have powered USB hubs. Device testing is hard work and takes time. I know because I do work at a company that makes A LOT of devices. Some you probably own or statistically at least one of your family member owns. It's sometimes not possible to test everything out there to be sure it works so I understand the easy stance of just supporting to spec and adding a disclaimer indicating the use of a powered hub. Still, I know logically that the hardware design could have helped solve the potential issue of a power hungry USB drive. Drives are getting better these days and even a 1TB usb drive can perform in spec. I have to believe though that in a lot of cases the new Touch owner is going to want to take their spare or older smaller usb drive that they upgraded from to attach permanently to the Touch. In this logical guess at how things might shake out in the field its a fair guess that the Touch will be trying to use some older hardware that might need some extra juice. I'm not beating anyone up here. It's very possible there was a meeting and it was decided that they would accept the Risk to goodwill and some returns of the product due to customer satisfaction over this issue. I've been there. Still the choice of the company... then onto the next product :) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive
pounce;532845 Wrote: If the intent was to support USB drives and its possible and common to have drives that require a little more juice then you make a product that supports that. AFAIK, the USB spec says it's 500 mA, and the Touch already allows up to 750 mA. You can't seriously ask Logitech to handle design flaws in other vendors' devices when they're already 50% over spec-ed, can you? BTW, I'm using a 500GB Little Disk from LaCie, and it worked out of the box. -- sebp Transporter, SB Classic, SB Receiver, SB Boom, SB Radio, SB Touch, 2 SB Controllers Will soon need a bigger home - 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Let get it back on the original topic: making the Touch 24/192 compatible. Nothing to do with Hdtracks etc. -- MrRalph MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive
sebp;532850 Wrote: AFAIK, the USB spec says it's 500 mA, and the Touch already allows up to 750 mA. You can't seriously ask Logitech to handle design flaws in other vendors' devices when they're already 50% over spec-ed, can you? We're just talking here :) *If* it was determined that the USB drive that had the largest market share in the wild was out of spec and would not work with the design of the device then...yes, it would be reasonable for the company to address the issue. That could mean changing the design if it made sense OR choosing to do nothing. If you were a maker of wallets and you were considering a certain size for those wallets you would want to ensure that those wallets fit in the pockets worn by most of your target consumers, no? You wouldn't suggest that people use pocket extenders :) I wont waste a lot of time on the concept here, but there is a give and take with design and compatibility testing. Tweaks to hardware design happen all the time to support compatibility with their external influences be that other hardware or even software and services. To be honest I don't know how many drives wont work with the Touch and I don't know what the specs are on the Touch usb port. I don't own a Touch at this moment and can't say if any of my drives would fail. I'm just making a point that the general issue isn't as black and white as some are seeing. It could also be a non issue for the majority of people. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive
pounce;532862 Wrote: It could also be a non issue for the majority of people. Mickey, by his advice, just warned Logitech customers that some HDDs couldn't be powered off the Touch. Frankly, it's a non problem to me, and shouldn't be one to Logitech either: I can't remember having seen anywhere on the Touch's packaging or Logitech web site that it would power up USB devices, anyway. Given you'll at least have 3 wires connected to the Touch (power, audio and USB), one more for the HDD wouldn't cause your world to collapse... -- sebp Transporter, SB Classic, SB Receiver, SB Boom, SB Radio, SB Touch, 2 SB Controllers Will soon need a bigger home - 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive
The older I get, the less I like to fiddle around with and examine technical specifications. i know it can't be avoided completely, but I aim more and more for a 'toaster' mentality, where you just plug it in and it works. My SB3 experience was very close to that at first, but after some months I went round and round with router problems until i finally just bought a new one and it worked - I still don't know why the other one didn't - it used to, and it was fine for a laptop sitting right next to the squeeze. But, my point is that when aiming at a mainstream audience, Logitech should make it as easy as possible to get a music sytem working. They've made their design decisions and it is a good step to say a drive with specifications X, Y, Z will work but it would be even better to have an easy-to-find place on their website with recommended specific popular models of necessary auxiliary equipment that are known to work in normal situations. One shouldn't have to dig through forums and wikis to find that information. There are many people who don't have to watch the last penny and will be happy to buy something that they know will just work. Apple has been successful enough that iPod/Iphone compatibility is the standard that other manufactureres emulate. Wouldn't it be great if Logitech could do that with Squeezebox? But until then, come on, make it easy for us to spend money on your product. Swimmer -- Swimmerbird123 Swimmerbird123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76983 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] So, how does 24/96 sound on the Touch?
Mine will arive on Tuesday, mainly for the high rez downloads I have. Any comments on SQ already? -- MrRalph MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77126 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
Thank you but what I want is a real screensaver, like in the SB3... -- didbox didbox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] So, how does 24/96 sound on the Touch?
I've done listening and comparing 44.1 to 88.2 and 96 files and the truth is there is no clear advantage that I can hear. Sometimes 96 sounds better and sometimes it sounds worse. There is no obvious 96 always sounds better. I think it has far more to do with the method used for down/upsampling than any inherent superiority one way or the other. I have a bunch of 88.2 files that I recorded myself and these always sound better than down sampled ones, but I also have some tracks that I have that I got commercially of the same recording where the 44.1 actually sound better. In any case the differences are quite subtle, its not a night and day difference. If you have hi-rez files go ahead and listen to them at whatever rate they come in, and enjoy the 44.1 files you have as well. I would not obsess over it. I'm enjoying listening to all my 44.1 files over the Touch so much that I have no desire to go off and spend money on hi-rez stuff. When I do my own recording I'll do them in hi-rez because I can, but for spending a lot extra on commercial hi-rez recordings its not worth it to me at this point. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77126 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
didbox;532913 Wrote: Thank you but what I want is a real screensaver, like in the SB3... Correct, right now they are just available as the now playing screen which includes some text and buttons. It should be fairly easy to take the code for the NP meter screen and rip out the buttons and just leave the meters and package it as a screensaver. It should be a nice first applet exercise. Want to try it? John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] So, how does 24/96 sound on the Touch?
I would also add that if the CD you ripped was mastered poorly, it will sound bad on the Touch as well. :) -- starfury starfury's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37465 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77126 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
Hi y'all, I have a SB Classic and I'm considering going for the SB Touch. Still, I'm wondering this: Is it possible not to choose album cover-art to show in the display ? I mean is it possible to disable cover art and therefor use the whole width of the display and choose a larger character size ? I always have the character size on my SB3 display set on large, otherwise I can't read the info on the display from a few meters distance. If it's not possible to change characte size on the Touch, I'd be more or less forced to buy a Controller as well. (or get an Ipod, to use as remote) regards, Alco -- Alco Alco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32134 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
There are five Now Playing screens on the Touch, and you can cycle among them, or leave it at the one you like. 1) cover art and basic info (artist, album, track) 2) cover art only 3) basic info only 4) spectrum analyzer VU meters 5) dual analog VU meters In the future it may be possible to limit the NP screens that are cycled to fewer than 5, but not at present. Search on these forums and I'm sure you'll find photos of the different screens that were posted during the Touch's beta test phase. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
Thanks for the quick response, Aubuti. I also hope I can see the elapsed and remaining time on the Touch's display, by pushing/holding the | button on the remote for about 3 seconds. (like on the SB3) -- Alco Alco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32134 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
In addition to the no artwork mode there are two sizes, referred to as small/large, or touch/remote or 3/10. The small size is used when you touch the screen, it has smaller text and buttons. The larger size is used when you use the IR remote, it has larger text and no buttons. The 3/10 means 3ft or 10ft, the distance that mode was designed for. Thus if your Touch is much greater than 10ft away even the larger size may be too small. Its a little bit smaller than the largest font on the SB3. In my case the rack is about 15ft away and the largest SB3 font is just big enough, but the 10 Touch font is just a little too small for comfort. If you are in this situation some form of controller with a local screen might be best. I'm going to use second Touch for that! John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
Its a little bit smaller than the largest font on the SB3. In my case the rack is about 15ft away and the largest SB3 font is just big enough, but the 10 Touch font is just a little too small for comfort. If you are in this situation some form of controller with a local screen might be best Thank you very much John. That was the info I was looking for. (although I was hoping for something else, as it seems I now have a get a controller or Ipod Touch as well, to be able to use a Touch) Currently I sit about 3,5 meters (30 feet ?) from my SB Classic, when I liston to music. Alco -- Alco Alco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32134 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
Alco;532983 Wrote: ...Currently I sit about 3,5 meters (30 feet ?) from my SB Classic, when I liston to music. 3,5 meters ~= 11,5 feet (3.5 m ~= 11.5 ft) The 10 foot size might work for you. I expect to use a Touch from about that distance. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
Whoopssorry, I meant 3,5 meters to be 10 feet. (instead of 30) Ok, I'll just try it as it is. Luckily there's a Logitech dealer in my area who will hopefully have the Touch in stock pretty soon, so I can try before I buy. :) -- Alco Alco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32134 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?
bigbwb;532823 Wrote: Bummer. I imagine there is no chance of it being added down the road either? As reported earlier in this thread, it is (or at least was) planned. -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71303 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?
alfista;533021 Wrote: As reported earlier in this thread, it is (or at least was) planned. Thanks guys for the updates. Well in the event it is not implemented, I already ran another network cable for my DVR:) -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71303 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Bruce B;532576 Wrote: Now we take a direct DSD data stream from a Playback Designs MPS-5 into either a Sonoma workstation or a Pyramix workstation. Then we SRC using SARACON. End of story. Bruce, Thanks for joining this forum and explaining the process that you use. As mentioned several pages back, I subscribe to the Chicago Symphony and am interested in the CSO Resound recordings available from HD Tracks. I bought a few tracks for testing / comparison to CD. I've not yet done the comparison due to lack of suitable hardware. I expect to do the comparison with the new Squeezebox Touch in the near future. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
R Johnson;533010 Wrote: While a bit off topic, I was wondering if the display info does (or could) include some of the 'extra' embedded information in files, such as the 'Comments' or 'Composer' fields that iTunes provides... If you are in Touch mode (the buttons are visible) you can touch the top bar which gives you a menu from which you can every bit of information the database has on that song. I haven't figured out how you do that in remote mode though. This menu can show you everything that is in the tags for the song. I don't use iTunes so I don't know if it stores info not in the tags, and if it does if SBS can get at that info. Others that use iTunes will have to answer that one. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display info character size
JohnSwenson;533048 Wrote: If you are in Touch mode (the buttons are visible) you can touch the top bar which gives you a menu from which you can every bit of information the database has on that song. I haven't figured out how you do that in remote mode though Press the +/More button. Scroll down through the context menu. Basic info is on the first context menu, and you can select the More info option to get more details. There's even a View tags option that shows the ugly ID3 tag names. :-) -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77137 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
mlsstl wrote: 1) I plugged my USB drive into the Touch and the scan seems painfully slow. It will play music in the meantime, but I'm still not done after 3 hours. The drive has just shy of 48,000 songs. A rescan on my server is about 45 to 50 minutes. I'm just trying to find out what to expect. The CPU and memory in the Touch are way slower than a typical server or PC. That is a lot of songs. I've never tried that many during beta testing, but I'm think that may be as expected. The internal Touch server was not intended to replace a full blown SqueezeBoxServer. It was designed for folks who didn't have a lot of music, didn't want to setup a server. 40,000 songs is a lot of songs. Even ten times as long as your real server would not be a surprize to me. All IMHO, Once you are done scanning, you don't have to replicate it often. I think the initial design was for folks with a USB thumb drive to show off a bit of music, or perhaps play music from an iPad or iPhone. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Sound Quality with USB Drive
Hey guys, I plan to purchase a Touch to avoid going down the PC streamer route. I will be connecting it to an external hard drive directly via USB. But I have a few questions about this: 1) I have previously read that a directly connected USB drive with FLAC files does not have the same sound quality as using SBS on a PC streaming the same file in WAV format? Apparently, this was audible with $5 headphones. This was a while ago, so could somebody confirm if this is still the case. Does this effect only over analog outputs, or digital outputs as well? 2) Does the Touch enable gapless playback? If so, do I just get EAC to rip CDs as normal and the gaps will be in the flac files, or do I need to create cue sheets? In addition, if I rip an album to a directory, will the Touch automatically play through the whole album? 3) Does the Touch take a long time to scan files on the USB drive? Often, I might buy a CD, rip it to the USB drive and then reconnect the drive to the Touch. Will this cause long browsing delays? Thanks in advance!!! -- bingcrosby bingcrosby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Sound Quality with USB Drive
bingcrosby;533100 Wrote: Hey guys, I plan to purchase a Touch to avoid going down the PC streamer route. I will be connecting it to an external hard drive directly via USB. But I have a few questions about this: 1) I have previously read that a directly connected USB drive with FLAC files does not have the same sound quality as using SBS on a PC streaming the same file in WAV format? Apparently, this was audible with $5 headphones. This was a while ago, so could somebody confirm if this is still the case. Does this effect only over analog outputs, or digital outputs as well? 2) Does the Touch enable gapless playback? If so, do I just get EAC to rip CDs as normal and the gaps will be in the flac files, or do I need to create cue sheets? In addition, if I rip an album to a directory, will the Touch automatically play through the whole album? 3) Does the Touch take a long time to scan files on the USB drive? Often, I might buy a CD, rip it to the USB drive and then reconnect the drive to the Touch. Will this cause long browsing delays? Thanks in advance!!! 1) It SHOULD sound the same. 2), Just rip the files as flacs and it'll play gapless, tag the files correctly, (any good ripper will do this) and you can play albums just fine. 3), Not sure. Don't have mine yet -- craiglester craiglester's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Sound Quality with USB Drive
Sorry, let me add a fourth. 4) Can a crossfeed plugin be installed to TinySC? Would the extra processing required comprimise sound quality? Does the plugin take effect when using the digital output? Obviously, this is no longer a bit perfect signal, but is turning the volume of the Touch to maximum enough to ensure no quality loss relative to the original, i.e., modified bit perfect? -- bingcrosby bingcrosby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Sound Quality with USB Drive
I was the one who reported those sound differences, are they still there? yes they are but they are very small differences now. Its very interesting, but the differences are easier to hear with cheap headphones. I've noticed the same thing with really cheap interconnects. The far than perfect accessories degrade everything enough that the differences are more obvious. That seems counter-intuitive but that is what seems to happen. With good headphones and interconnects ($40 headphones instead of $5 ones, $10 interconnects instead of $.50 ones) every thing gets better and its harder to tell the differences. I would not worry about it, do NOT make this the deciding factor on whether to use the builtin server or an external server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Sound Quality with USB Drive
@peterw Thankyou, but I won't be connecting the Touch to a home network. It will be just taking the USB drive between the PC and Touch I'm afraid. -- bingcrosby bingcrosby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77158 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
JohnSwenson;532938 Wrote: Correct, right now they are just available as the now playing screen which includes some text and buttons. It should be fairly easy to take the code for the NP meter screen and rip out the buttons and just leave the meters and package it as a screensaver. It should be a nice first applet exercise. Want to try it? :-) John S. Hi John, Yes, but as I don't really have a gift for programming, you risk to have a very strange screensaver... Other matter: Do you know if it's possible to customize the title format in the Now playing screen? Thank you! -- didbox didbox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
