Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
plympton;538331 Wrote: > 1. Is there a reason that volume control should be slower than on a > Classic? It just seems like it takes forever to go from full -> half > volume, say. Like when the keyboard repeat rate is too slow. Any fix? > I'm running the 7.5.1 nightly, so that could be part of it, though it's > not happening on the Classics I have, and the Touch is literally a > matter of a few feet from the server. I never use the volume control on the Touch, instead preferring to use my preamp's volume control. It's very fast using the Touch interface, but I see what you mean if you're using the IR interface. It's unusually slow. > 2. Is there a way to disable Repeat on the UI? I seem to fat-finger the > next song button and keep hitting the Repeat button. Any guidance on > where/how to change that on the skin? I don't think there's any way. I'd often wondered whether anyone would have problems with the small buttons in the button bar and with hitting the wrong one. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Two USB Entries on Main Menu????
You might get that if you have two partitions on the same drive. Go to settings>advanced>USB and SD STorage and click devices. See if there are two shown. You might have sda1 and sda2 OR sda1 and sdb1. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77678 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] My Touch doesn't seem to want to go into standby
Got my Touch on the 12th and overall love it. I'm sure it sounds better than the SB3 as a digital transport, and it's performed virtually flawlessly whilst addressing my external USB HDD. For all that, I've had a strange issue pop up a couple of days ago. In short, the Touch doesn't seem to want to go into standby when using the remote. Works fine, and plays everything as you'd expect, but simply refuses to standby. I have tried unplugging it, then powering it up, but it still has the same issue. Any thoughts? Is it a setting that I've missed or a screen press that I should be doing? -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Two USB Entries on Main Menu????
metalbob;538311 Wrote: > The first one somehow ends up switching SBS to another drive somehow. What drive? Is it an actual drive, or a phantom? If it's a phantom, then the SBT has probably just gotten confused and you should be able to solve it by rebooting the Touch, and if that fails, doing a factor reset of the Touch. If it's a real drive, you may have discovered a new bug...or a new feature. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77678 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch UI Questions (fixes?)
Got my touch last week, and been playing with it - overall, very nice, though some things are a bit odd. 1. Is there a reason that volume control should be slower than on a Classic? It just seems like it takes forever to go from full -> half volume, say. Like when the keyboard repeat rate is too slow. Any fix? I'm running the 7.5.1 nightly, so that could be part of it, though it's not happening on the Classics I have, and the Touch is literally a matter of a few feet from the server. 2. Is there a way to disable Repeat on the UI? I seem to fat-finger the next song button and keep hitting the Repeat button. Any guidance on where/how to change that on the skin? I'm tossing the idea around of getting an skin like I have on my iPhone (www.bestskinsever.com), but I'll probably get one that covers the whole front of the device. I've got a 3-year-old who loves to tap-tap-tap on my gizmos... ! -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77679 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
perose;538258 Wrote: > OK WIFI pretty much sucks for security Not really. Use WPA2 with a strong passphrase, change your router's default name and password, and you're in pretty good shape. What "sucks for security" are the half-assed band-aids like hiding SSID, MAC filtering, WEP, etc. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
Mnyb;538308 Wrote: > If would also like to get some senior members interest in this topic, > maybe it could get patched somehow if you have programming skills and > can read the code (it is open source after all). > I don't have programming skills at all so I can only report my > findings. > I can not give any constructive help to the developers, I think that > would be greatly appreciated. > > I think my little cowon mp3 player handles shuffle without a problem ? > So something is not thoroughly designed as it should. Where is the code available for download? I heard that it's written in Perl. I'm not a Perl developer, but I'd still love to look and see what they're doing that is causing performance problems. -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable WLAN on Squeezebox Touch
Hi I think it is also possible to disable wifi this way: edit wlan startup script: vi /etc/init.d/wlan insert after the first line: (go down with cursor) :i exit; and save: :wq! do a reboot of the machine: reboot and after reboot check with: ifconfig && lsmod You can see there is no more wlan0 interface up and also no loaded modules. Greetings, wimpf -- wimpf wimpf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76291 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a way to turn off the automatic software update screen?
erland;538316 Wrote: > I just realized that there might be a way to avoid this. > > Try setting the "Software Updates" setting in SBS > Settings/Advanced/Software to "Don't check for software updates". I'm > not completely sure this will work but when I look at the code it looks > like it might. Come to think of it, you're right. It does disable the updates. Now that I recall, there was one very vocal beta tester who was disappointed that this option disabled not only the check for server updates, but also Touch and Radio firmware updates. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a way to turn off the automatic software update screen?
tonyptony;536750 Wrote: > Not that I mind having new and improved updates showing up, but is there > a way to configure the Touch so that the software updates can be ignored > until the user decides to install? I want to keep from having the update > panel popping up automatically. > I just realized that there might be a way to avoid this. Try setting the "Software Updates" setting in SBS Settings/Advanced/Software to "Don't check for software updates". I'm not completely sure this will work but when I look at the code it looks like it might. To get information about new updates and be able to install them, you will need to change this setting and restart SBS and it should then show up on the Touch after it has been downloaded from mysqueezebox.com. After the firmware upgrade, you will need to change back the above mentioned setting so it doesn't check for new firmwares. If this doesn't work, I'll publish a patch which you can install through "Patch Installer" applet that just gets rid of the notification on the Touch, but I'd prefer that we use the official solution unless it doesn't work. As I've understood it, any users only using the built-in server (TinySC) in the Touch will only get official firmware upgrades when there is a new official release, so for these the notification is probably not a problem. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77516 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
Swimmerbird123;538309 Wrote: > This is a helpful discussion - so much to learn about networking! > > I'm curious how mysqueezebox.com handles a static IP address. I've been > experimenting a bit and using the Touch diagnostic screen to check the > assigned IP address of the Touch with various connection arrangements. > Running off the router or a second subnet also with DHCP, it gets > assigned an expected IP address on the corresponding subnet. But when > the Touch is running off of mysqueezebox.com, it gets assigned an IP of > the form 68.xxx.yyy.zzz which is an 'external' WAN address, not a LAN > address. > > Am I right to assume that mysqueezebox.com is assigning this address, > and doing it with some kind of DHCP, or would it be my ISP? What would > mysqueezebox.com (or my ISP) do if I had already assigned a static IP to > my Touch? > > Thanks > Swimmer Nope LAN is handled by your router WAN handlad by your ISP mysqueezebox.com lika any other internet based service use the given infrastructure to communicate . mysqueezebox.com or almost anything i know about does not know care about your LAN it's what your router is doing translates all your internal LAN stuf to an external WAN ip that is seen "from the outside" To see your external WAN adress http://www.whatsmyip.org/ -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Two USB Entries on Main Menu????
I have been having difficulty scanning my collection. At some point, a second USB entry appeared on my main menu. The second one thankfully appears to be scanning my collection. The first one somehow ends up switching SBS to another drive somehow. I know few will believe this, so I have attached pictures +---+ |Filename: SDC10260.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9719| +---+ -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77678 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
Swimmerbird123 wrote: > Am I right to assume that mysqueezebox.com is assigning this address, > and doing it with some kind of DHCP, or would it be my ISP? What would > mysqueezebox.com (or my ISP) do if I had already assigned a static IP to > my Touch? No, mysqueezebox.com does not change your computer's IP address. And the Touch is a computer. Its your ISP, or the equipment that your ISP provided, does the assignment. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
This is a helpful discussion - so much to learn about networking! I'm curious how mysqueezebox.com handles a static IP address. I've been experimenting a bit and using the Touch diagnostic screen to check the assigned IP address of the Touch with various connection arrangements. Running off the router or a second subnet also with DHCP, it gets assigned an expected IP address on the corresponding subnet. But when the Touch is running off of mysqueezebox.com, it gets assigned an IP of the form 68.xxx.yyy.zzz which is an 'external' WAN address, not a LAN address. Am I right to assume that mysqueezebox.com is assigning this address, and doing it with some kind of DHCP, or would it be my ISP? What would mysqueezebox.com (or my ISP) do if I had already assigned a static IP to my Touch? Thanks Swimmer -- Swimmerbird123 Swimmerbird123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17285 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
Sadly this is not a "Tiny" Server only problem. It really is a problem for every one of us. Try to shuffle a large playlist when you have an Squeezeplay device Touch or Radio as player. It's very very inefficient, my little via 1.2gHz based fanless server. can juggle 2000 - 4000 track playlist for my ip3k based players like boom or SB3. Just toggle the different shuffle modes. And tag along on my bug here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16089 I'm on 7.6 which is beta, I would appreciate if someone with the official build could confirm. But still go into 100% cpu meltdown with 1/10 of it when playing on a Touch. Note that I have the web-UI open so it still relocates bunches of Thumb images for the browser interface. This goes back to. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10889 which was filed in January 2009 So the Devs don't really see the problem for what it is. This has been known for 15 months now. If would also like to get some senior members interest in this topic, maybe it could get patched somehow if you have programming skills and can read the code (it is open source after all). I don't have programming skills at all so I can only report my findings. I can not give any constructive help to the developers, I think that would be greatly appreciated. I think my little cowon mp3 player handles shuffle without a problem ? So something is not thoroughly designed as it should. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
If I navigate to a folder with over 100 tracks and press play at the first (or click, say, "play all tracks in folder"), a playlist of 100 songs will be created. Say I skip to the 100th song, and it plays through, what will happen after that? Will it create a new playist 101 and onwards and keep playing or just stop? (This is not a killer for me, I can always just divide folders up.) -- bingcrosby bingcrosby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
JJZolx;538302 Wrote: > I have a public IP address for my cable internet connection. I > guarantee that it's assigned via DHCP, as are 10's of millions of DSL > public addresses. > ... > I've never managed a large web hosting network, but it would be > conceivable to also use DHCP for IP address assignment (that, or NAT) > in order to manage a very large number of servers. > > Those two applications right there probably account for the bulk of all > public IP addresses in use today. Yeah, good points. You're right, it's tough to imagine Google actually not using DHCP for its farms, and my ISP is rather geek-oriented, so not surprising that they don't/didn't provide dhcpd-enabled gear. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
Swimmerbird123;537937 Wrote: > But isn't the easiest way to set a static IP on the home network simply > to reserve one on the router? I thought most routers offer this > possibility as a standard feature these days - you just configure it to > assign the device's MAC address to the IP address you want it to have, > and then when the device connects to the router, the DHCP assigns the > reserved address - no mess, no fuss. My Linksys does this anyway. But > maybe I'm missing something. > > Swimmer This is not static IP it's DHCP with same IP for each client all the time. Touch will still run it's DHCP client requesting an IP. The routers DHCP server will stil reply with a settings for it (even if they are the same) leases will still expire etc. It would still take that extra time for DHCP negotiation and some thing DHCP could still go wrong, in router or Touch/radio/controller. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
peterw;538298 Wrote: > ...drifting off-topic... > > For *public* addresses? I'm not, nor have I ever been, a full-time > network guy, but I have never seen, nor heard of, anyone using DHCP on > the public Internet. I have a public IP address for my cable internet connection. I guarantee that it's assigned via DHCP, as are 10's of millions of DSL public addresses. >From my cable modem log: Code: 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP - parameters acquired 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: ACK: Setting (*) CM TFTP Boot file: d11_m_sb5120_speedtiertb25_c01.cm 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Setting CM IP address to: 96.168.xxx.xxx 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Setting (*) CM Syslog Server address to: 0.0.0.0 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Setting (*) CM Time Server address to: 68.87.xxx.xxx 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Setting (*) CM Subnet mask to: 255.255.248.0 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Setting (*) CM Gateway address to: 96.168.xxx.xxx 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: OFFER: Setting (*) CM TFTP Boot file: d11_m_sb5120_speedtiertb25_c01.cm 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP select: Setting (*) CM TFTP Server address to: 68.87.xxx.xxx 1970-01-01 00:00:17 7-Information DHCP: Offered (*) CM IP address to: 96.168.xxx.xxx I've never managed a large web hosting network, but it would be conceivable to also use DHCP for IP address assignment (that, or NAT) in order to manage a very large number of servers. Those two applications right there probably account for the bulk of all public IP addresses in use today. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
peterw wrote: > pfarrell;538296 Wrote: >> In general, static IP addresses entered manually is a really bad idea. >> That is how the Internet worked for the first years, and if you pick a >> duplicate number, things break badly. That is why DHCP was invented. > > ...drifting off-topic... > > For *public* addresses? I'm not, nor have I ever been, a full-time > network guy, but I have never seen, nor heard of, anyone using DHCP on > the public Internet. You are correct, I meant for internal within your home network. I believe, perhaps incorrectly, that 99% of all SqueezeBoxen are connected to a private network in you house. Of course, if its a public IP address, then your ISP will tell you want to use, and you have no real options. For most users, the DSL/router/modem/access point will deal with the public side. That too is often DHCP, but that is up to the ISP and their networking folks. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
pfarrell;538296 Wrote: > > In general, static IP addresses entered manually is a really bad idea. > That is how the Internet worked for the first years, and if you pick a > duplicate number, things break badly. That is why DHCP was invented. ...drifting off-topic... For *public* addresses? I'm not, nor have I ever been, a full-time network guy, but I have never seen, nor heard of, anyone using DHCP on the public Internet. DHCP is what you use on your company's internal network. I guess I *have* seen DHCP used with addresses properly assigned by the IANA, but not for publicly-reachable addresses. This was just a company with a forward-looking IT guy who requested some address blocks back when they were easy to get, well before we started reading about that fancy Mosaic software from the kids downstate. If you've got enough /24 (and larger) blocks to cover your internal network, why not use "real" addresses for private space? It does make VPN with businesses partners easier when you know they aren't, or darn well shouldn't be, using the same address ranges. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
mpower9 wrote: > I have seen many reference to static IP addresses, but this is the first > time I saw a clear description of how to set it up. I still have one > question. What number do you use for the static IP address. It depends. Your network, subnetwork, etc will have a range of legal values. Most Cable/DSL modems provide DHCP service, and you don't have to care. But if you do, you should look at the values the modem/router/access point is using, and use one in that range. Of course, the only safe way to pick on is to use the modem/router's admin panel, and specify one that it won't use. How you do that depends on the router/modem. In general, static IP addresses entered manually is a really bad idea. That is how the Internet worked for the first years, and if you pick a duplicate number, things break badly. That is why DHCP was invented. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
mpower9;538293 Wrote: > I have seen many references to static IP addresses, but this is the > first time I saw a clear description of how to set it up. Thanks you > for explaining the difference between static and reserve. > > I still have one question. What number do you use for the static IP > address. There are a lot of numbers in the world--an infinite number of > numbers. Another reason static ips might be used over a "static DHCP" address is speed. If the device sleeps then when it wakes up getting an IP is an extra handshake that is not instant. I have been meaning to try setting up my SB Controller with a static ip to see if that improves its wake up time. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
mpower9;538293 Wrote: > I have seen many references to static IP addresses, but this is the > first time I saw a clear description of how to set it up. Thanks you > for explaining the difference between static and reserve. > > I still have one question. What number do you use for the static IP > address. There are a lot of numbers in the world--an infinite number of > numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Static IP
I have seen many reference to static IP addresses, but this is the first time I saw a clear description of how to set it up. I still have one question. What number do you use for the static IP address. There are a lot of numbers in the world--an infinite number of numbers. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77625 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
Just to chime in my SB Radio has no trouble picking up the WiFi with the SSID hidden even after a reboot and even after the infamous FW 7.5 download. When I first go it it fussed and I had not only to unhide the SSID, but actually first set it up with the ethernet connection. I thought that I would have to keep the SSID unhidded, but the Radio got over its hissy and has been fine for 6 months through many reboots and power-offs. It has never been a problem since. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
JJZolx;538282 Wrote: > All these security arguments are valid, but they miss the intent of the > original question: "Is there a bug?". It shouldn't matter to the Touch > once it has been set up to use the SSID. Whether it 'saw' that SSID or > it was entered manually during setup shouldn't matter. If after it's > been set up the Touch cannot connect to the access point when the SSID > is hidden, then it's a bug. > > Here's an applicable bug for the Squeezebox Radio. Perhaps it affects > all SqueezeOS based devices: > > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13259 > > ~ > > Ok, so now that you've verified a known bug, what do you do? You > carefully consider the security arguments above and get it through your > thick skull that hiding the SSID offers you absolutely no added security > against anyone with even half a mind to break into your network. So you > enable broadcasting of the SSID, the Touch connects, and you live > happily ever after. The bug is in the router for allowing a non-spec setting. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538217 Wrote: > Agreed. It is rather interesting that you had the problem in the first > place... you shouldn't be getting a ground loop with s/pdif unless you > are using wired ethernet with Cat 6 shielded cable (which you should not > be using!) The Touch s/pdif ground is isolated from mains ground... poor reception w/wireless dictated a cat 6 ethernet house wiring which allowed the squeezebox classic to work well. the touch is ordered and will replace the squeezebox...my bad huh? peechus... -- peechus peechus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
All these security arguments are valid, but they miss the point. It shouldn't matter to the Touch once it has been set up to use the SSID. Whether it 'saw' that SSID or it was entered manually during setup shouldn't matter. If, after it has been set up, the Touch cannot connect to the access point when the SSID is hidden, then it's a bug. Here's an applicable bug for the Squeezebox Radio. Perhaps it affects all SqueezePlay based devices: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13259 ~ Ok, so now that you've verified a known bug, what do you do? You carefully consider the security arguments above and get it through your thick skull that hiding the SSID offers you absolutely no added security against anyone with even half a mind to break into your network. So you enable broadcasting of the SSID, the Touch connects, and you live happily ever after. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
m1abrams;538273 Wrote: > > Enable SSID broadcast and forget about it. Exactly. I see over and over on this forum situations where someone has a problem, and when they are shown a simple solution to the problem, they insist on continuing to do whatever is causing the problem and trying (futilely) to make it work. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
m1abrams;538273 Wrote: > Not broadcasting the SSID does absolutely nothing to protect your > network. NOTHING. > > It does break many devices and software and just makes your wifi > network that much more of a PITA. However it does NOTHING to hide or > protect your wifi network. If you do not believe us download > http://airsnort.shmoo.com/ and try it out on your "hidden" wifi > network. > > Enable SSID broadcast and forget about it. http://blogs.technet.com/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx says that disabling broadcast is a violaton of 802.11i (WPA). -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch does not seem to update Album Art between Songs for songs in the same Album
Touch does not seem to update Album Art between Songs for songs in the same Album Good example is NIN - The Slip. Each track has its own different Album Art embedded in the FLAC file. It seems though that the Touch does not update the displayed artwork between each song. However if you look at the track listing in the SBS webserver playlist each track shows its own distinct artwork. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77674 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists when using USB drive
iPhone;538007 Wrote: > If when using Touch in the TinySC self server mode having a 100 song > playlist limit is your only reason for not buying a Touch, it is my > opinion that you should not be allowed to ever buy a Touch. That's just > plain silly for a reason for not buying a Touch. > > First this only applies when using the Touch as a standalone server. Since I only want to use the Touch as a standalone server, that's like saying "this only applies every time you want to use it." iPhone;538007 Wrote: > Second there is nothing that says you can't save multiple 100 song > playlists and just load a second saved Playlist when the first finishes > (which by the way on average will be 6 hours later!). How many times do > you listen to music for more then 6 hours straight? And how hard would > it be to queue up a second saved playlist when you happen to listen for > more then 6 hours straight? I will tell, not hard just a few touches on > the display. The Current Playlist can never be more than 100 songs, so I'm guessing that if you want to select a folder to play, you'll get the same 100 songs in that folder every time. That's just lame. Also, I would want large m3u playlists, and then just randomize play within a playlist. iPhone;538007 Wrote: > Please remember that TinySC is just that, TINY. There is only so much > memory available on the device. Playlists and their associated baggage > (cover art) take up large amounts of assets ... Again, the Squeezebox Server could have easily minimized resources by handling playlists intelligently. I'm looking at a screenshot now, and a playlist displays only three items for each track: the song title, the band name, and an album cover thumbnail image. In addition, the playlist needs to know the location of each song. With the exception of the cover art thumbnail images, that type of data does NOT use up heavy system resources. As I pointed out above, 1000 songs would take up only 133K. It's almost certainly the cover art thumbnail images that are taking up the heavy system resources. If system resources are that strained, thumbnail images could have been left out of Touch playlists without anyone noticing or caring. WinAmp doesn't display thumbnail images for playlists and nobody ever complains. Neither does RealPlayer. The only music software I'm aware of that displays cover art in playlist mode is iTunes. Even if cover art thumbnail images are to be displayed, the TinySC easily could have cached only nearby cover art in memory. (For example, 10 tracks in each direction plus the 5 tracks currently displayed.) If a user scrolls wildly, then just load images like a web browser does. There would be no delay in scrolling the playlist, just in loading cover art, but users could then have huge playlists. In addition to loading track name, band name, track location, and unnecessary cover art into memory, the TinySC may be loading all track info into memory (i.e. stuff that doesn't get displayed in playlists). If the TinySC is doing that, then it would be a much bigger strain on memory while also being unnecessary. Finally, I ask again, does the iPod have a 100 track (or similar) limitation for its current playlist? It almost certainly is far more resource-constrained than the Squeezebox Touch. If it doesn't have such a limitation, then the "lack of resources" argument is pure bunk. -- hawaiijim hawaiijim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77386 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
perose;538258 Wrote: > OK WIFI pretty much sucks for security but your analogy is a bit flawed. > If I have a friend or need an emergence vehicle to find me I'm happy to > share the info. And if the SSID is sent in the clear in every packet > why won't the Touch find it? Just wondering Not broadcasting the SSID does absolutely nothing to protect your network. NOTHING. It does break many devices and software and just makes your wifi network that much more of a PITA. However it does NOTHING to hide or protect your wifi network. If you do not believe us download http://airsnort.shmoo.com/ and try it out on your "hidden" wifi network. Enable SSID broadcast and forget about it. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
snarlydwarf wrote: > install a wireless sniffer on a laptop, and ye shall see. Seriously, do as @snarlydwarf. From my living room laptop, I can see about 35 lans, and a huge number of them are called "Linksys" and have the default userid and passwords. WiFi usage is amazing. And more than a bit scary. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
perose;538258 Wrote: > OK WIFI pretty much sucks for security but your analogy is a bit flawed. > If I have a friend or need an emergence vehicle to find me I'm happy to > share the info. And if the SSID is sent in the clear in every packet > why won't the Touch find it? Just wondering The analogy isn't flawed: would you go out and rehang the house numbers for those friends? That's what you're doing with SSIDs. As for why the Touch doesn't always see the SSID is because it's only sent when something is broadcast. No network activity, no SSID unless you broadcast it. Any network activity and the SSID is all over the place. install a wireless sniffer on a laptop, and ye shall see. Hiding your SSID doesn't do a thing for security. Removing your house number doesn't make your house invisible. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
RichardLittlewood;538096 Wrote: > The internal memory of the ST is only 27% full after scanning 35000 > files. In any case, Logitech should publicize any limitations. On one > of their forums I see they mention it had been tested with a 2 TB > drive. Where did you get the 27% memory utilization number? I and everyone else who has checked are seeing 97% to 99% memory utilization when running the builtin server. The lowest I've ever seen it is 43% when running over a wired connection to an external server streaming PCM. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
There are no hard and fast rules. Its not a number in the software that after its reached stuff doesn't work. There seems to be a gradual degradation in performance (initial scan time, remount scan time, GUI responsiveness etc) as the database gets larger. Exactly where things start to get really bad seems to be very individual setup dependant. Several beta testers are running large libraries on big disks and its working fine for them. Others (such as those posting here in this thread) are having major problems. Unfortunately right now nobody knows what the differences are. I don't think anybody can say right now "If you do this its guaranteed to work" and "if you do this its guaranteed not to work". Its going to take some more experience to find out what parameters affect it and how to optimize a large library running on the builtin server. For now if you are having major difficulties there are a couple options: spend more time trying to find out what you can do that will improve things with the current setup, give up in disgust and return it, or go to an external server. It doesn't have to be very expensive, the Sheevaplug costs $99 and can be used with the USB drive you already have. I think most people are going to prefer the experience with the external server, you have the full capabilities of the server at your disposal, which are probably even more important for people with large collections. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
I think it can be setup in either scenario but you can not change it, after the fact So decide what you want to do (keep SSID on as it offers no extra security ) And then do the network setup on the Touch There is an option to type in the SSID if it's "invisible" during setup -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
I followed this fellow user's instructions and it is now doing a very long scan on my collection. I have 600GB of lossless files (20,000 songs) on there and I'll be adding a lot more, so this will probably take some time. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=537030&postcount=14 -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
OK WIFI pretty much sucks for security but your analogy is a bit flawed. If I have a friend or need an emergence vehicle to find me I'm happy to share the info. And if the SSID is sent in the clear in every packet why won't the Touch find it? Just wondering -- perose perose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
You do know that turning off SSID broadcasting gives you exactly as much security as removing the house numbers from your house protects you from burglars, right? (Ie, your SSID is sent, in the clear, in every packet anyway) Turning it off just makes it more annoying to find networks, just as removing your house numbers only makes it hard for friends or emergency vehicles to find your house. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] A WIFI Question - SSID
Normally I run my network without broadcasting the SSID after I've gotten all the devices configured and attached (WPA and MAC address filtering is also enabled). After attaching the Touch and all is working properly if I disable SSID broadcast and cycle power on the Touch I can't attach to the network and need to re-enable SSID broadcast. There isn't any problem if the Touch is powered and playing and I disable SSID broadcast. Also, when powered off the Touch clock function works. Am I missing something or is there a bug? My Transporter works just fine with SSID broadcast off. -- perose perose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77672 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Anyone compared Touch vs Bolder Mods
now that it is released, has anyone compared the Digital Out on the Touch to the Bolder Digital Mods on and SB3 or Duet? -- darthkringle darthkringle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23060 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73100 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Album Flow Applet For The Touch
It's currently only available as a screen saver on the Touch. It will appear as a "Album Flow" menu under "My Music" on Radio or Controller where browsing is supported. The developer may add browsing support also on the Touch in a future version. -- astrospec astrospec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77643 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538202 Wrote: > Not really. Light transitions travel just as well through plastic as > "glass" over a few meters. And - to make toslink work - it really > doesn't have to travel all that well. One of my best friends owns a > company that actually makes fibre... It has to handle WAY more > bandwidth than Toslink.. > The real "problem" with toslink/optical are the transition points from > cable to opto-isolator/driver. > There really (almost) isn't such a thing as a "crappy" plastic cable - > but there are badly finished ends that scatter...and poorly fitting > connectors. > Anyway, this is way OT now! I'll disagree with you and move on. Plenty of testing to show there is a difference. Big difference between a consumer toslink cable and a fibre cable. Don't forget these cables are fragile. Bad cables and even high quality glass cables can be damaged and still technically work, but not work well. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Phil Leigh;538213 Wrote: > The DSD data can be legitimately extracted from an SACD BY THE COPYRIGHT > HOLDER(or authorised agent thereof) OF THE DATA FOR ANY PURPOSE. Actually that is not correct. Sony has rights in the game too. And those rights are separate and independent of those of the holder of the copyright of the material on the SACD. Once an SACD is pressed, its content can ONLY be accessed in an SACD player with a Sony licensed SACD chipset. This chipset acts as an “access control” contemplated by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) “criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, WHETHER OR NOT there is actual infringement of copyright itself.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act The copyright holder of the material on the SACD continues to have access to its master recordings. So it is not that Sony is preventing the copyright holder from retaining access to and use of these masters for any other purpose. If the copyright holder of the material wants to send its masters to a retailer such as HDTracks, it is free to do so. But most labels aren’t going to do that because they probably don’t feel comfortable risking a loss of control of their masters. Once the pressing is done to the physical medium of an SACD, that physical medium, the SACD itself, has limitations on use dictated by Sony. One of the main marketing points made by Sony to the labels for pressing to SACD is to give the labels digital rights management which they don’t have with a red book CD. If labels knew it was easy to “rip” an SACD, that copyright protection marketing “feature” of an SACD would fly out the window. And Sony would be damaged if that occurs. Sony would lose credibility, it would lose sales of SACD players and it would lose revenue from pressing SACDs. So even though the copyright holder may in a particular case give permission to rip from an SACD, Sony has not given permission. Sony has no way to know in advance if SACD players are being modified or out of spec to be used to copy material with or without permission of the copyright owner. Rather than have to worry whether any particular SACD player is being used for such purposes on a case by case basis, the DMCA, Section 1201, makes a simple, easily understood rule: no circumvention, period. It’s a clear bright red line that is much easier to enforce. And the same is true for Playback Designs, the manufacturer of the SACD transport used by Puget Sound Studios. Playback Designs doesn’t know at the time of manufacture of their SACD transport who is going to purchase its transport, who is going to use its transport and what is it going to be used for, whether to rip copyrighted material with or without permission of the copyright holder. And because Playback Designs has no way to know this with absolute certainty in advance and has no control over this once its SACD transports leave its factory, Playback Designs is not supposed to make an SACD transport that can circumvent the access controls dictated by Sony’s license of the SACD chipset in the SACD transport. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Phil Leigh;538213 Wrote: > The DSD data can be legitimately extracted from an SACD BY THE COPYRIGHT > HOLDER(or authorised agent thereof) OF THE DATA FOR ANY PURPOSE. Actually that is not correct. Sony has rights in the game too. And those rights are separate and independent of those of the holder of the copyright of the material on the SACD. Once an SACD is pressed, its content can ONLY be accessed in an SACD player with a Sony licensed SACD chipset. This chipset acts as an “access control” contemplated by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) “criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, WHETHER OR NOT there is actual infringement of copyright itself.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act The copyright holder of the material on the SACD continues to have access to its master recordings. So it is not that Sony is preventing the copyright holder from retaining access to and use of these masters for any other purpose. If the copyright holder of the material wants to send its masters to a retailer such as HDTracks, it is free to do so. But most labels aren’t going to do that because they probably don’t feel comfortable risking a loss of control of their masters. Once the pressing is done to the physical medium of an SACD, that physical medium, the SACD itself, has limitations on use dictated by Sony. One of the main marketing points made by Sony to the labels for pressing to SACD is to give the labels digital rights management which they don’t have with a red book CD. If labels knew it was easy to “rip” an SACD, that copyright protection marketing “feature” of an SACD would fly out the window. And Sony would be damaged if that occurs. Sony would lose credibility, it would lose sales of SACD players and it would lose revenue from pressing SACDs. So even though the copyright holder may in a particular case give permission to rip from an SACD, Sony has not given permission. Sony has no way to know in advance if SACD players are being modified or out of spec to be used to copy material with or without permission of the copyright owner. Rather than have to worry whether any particular SACD player is being used for such purposes on a case by case basis, the DMCA, Section 1201, makes a simple, easily understood rule: no circumvention, period. It’s a clear bright red line that is much easier to enforce. And the same is true for Playback Designs, the manufacturer of the SACD transport used by Puget Sound Studios. Playback Designs doesn’t know at the time of manufacture of their SACD transport who is going to purchase its transport, who is going to use its transport and what is it going to be used for, whether to rip copyrighted material with or without permission of the copyright holder. And because Playback Designs has no way to know this with absolute certainty in advance and has no control over this once its SACD transports leave its factory, Playback Designs is not supposed to make an SACD transport that can circumvent the access controls dictated by Sony’s license of the SACD chipset in the SACD transport. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB Drive coming up empty
pounce;537661 Wrote: > Can you detail the brand and model when you get a chance? It's a Guardian Maximus RAID box with two Western Digital 2TB Green drives in it. It is picking up the hard drive as under USB and Devices, it's listed as EFI. I can't tell if it's scanning or not as I believe it just says, "Switching to USB Drive" or something along those lines on the screen. I did place a few MP3s in my iTunes library and nothing seems to have happened. One issue that I just discovered is that after transferring my library back to the reformatted drive, all new files I added were dumped into the main Media folder, whereas all the previous tracks are filed under Media>Music. This might be a setting issue in iTunes. Also, I have named the drive MEDIA, but it shows up as Squeezebox USB (or some variation of that) in the menu. I just ejected the drive and tried to rescan. It is currently "Removing Existing Database" and the circle on the screen keeps spinning. -- metalbob metalbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77599 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Covenant;538082 Wrote: > Thats useful. At the start of the list is says: > The following devices have been tested with Fab4 > What does that mean? Fab4 was the code name for the Touch. Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
I agree with your conclusions AudioFrog. The first thing I noticed after hooking up the Touch was the bass. There just seemed to be more of it and it seemed to be deeper than the SB3 I had been using previously. I really noticed it on "Lullaby" by A Perfect Circle. There's a deep bass line in that song that I couldn't even hear with the SB3. I was stunned to hear it and was surprised that my speakers could even reproduce it. Personally, I think the Touch sounds exceptional and is a sizable improvement over the SB3. I've been using its analog outs and also its coax digital out into a new AMB Gamma 2 DAC which I recently purchased. Both outputs sound great. -Matt -- eedork eedork's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37535 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538202 Wrote: > Not really. Light transitions travel just as well through plastic as > "glass" over a few meters. And - to make toslink work - it really > doesn't have to travel all that well. One of my best friends owns a > company that actually makes fibre... It has to handle WAY more > bandwidth than Toslink.. > The real "problem" with toslink/optical are the transition points from > cable to opto-isolator/driver. > There really (almost) isn't such a thing as a "crappy" plastic cable - > but there are badly finished ends that scatter...and poorly fitting > connectors. > Anyway, this is way OT now! There IS a difference between plastic and glass as commonly implemented, plastic usually comes as a single large fiber whereas glass usually comes as a bundle of many thin glass fibers. This can make a difference, with the single fiber light entering at different angles can traverse significantly different path lengths as it bounces from one side to another of the large fiber. This can lead to time domain edge smearing. In the thin fiber this effect is much much reduced. As long as the fibers in the glass bundle are all the same length the edge smearing from glass can be less than plastic. There ARE multi fiber plastic cables out there but they are pretty rare. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
AudioFrog;538208 Wrote: > Then it sounds like maybe my plastic toslink cable had some poor > termination to make it sound horrible. I'm just glad the hum is gone! Agreed. It is rather interesting that you had the problem in the first place... you shouldn't be getting a ground loop with s/pdif unless you are using wired ethernet with Cat 6 shielded cable (which you should not be using!) The Touch s/pdif ground is isolated from mains ground... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch analog vs. digital outputs
souwalker;537816 Wrote: > I'll get a SB Touch when I can find one in Australia. > > I have a QNAP TS210 NAS in the study. My house is hard-wired (CAT 5). > My Cd playing is playing up due to age. I plan to get the Touch and > stream FLAC files from my NAS (in the study) to my HiFi via analogue > L/R RCA to my Pre-Amp. > > Before HT, I listend to 2 Channel music via my pre/power amp. when I > got a digital avr, I used the avr as a pre-amp with my power amp. 2 > channel music was unbearabale. I've since put my pre-amp back into the > loop and when I listent to 2ch music, it's just pre/power amp and my cd > player. > > I am hoping the sound would be 'Good' > > Your thoughts? > > Rgds > Patrick First off, I wish you well in pursuit of the Touch. Secondly, I would think that it's fair to say that you asking all of us here on the Squeezebox forum if we think the Touch will sound "good" is just a bit odd since of course we say something along the lines of: "You will be very pleasantly surprised at just how good your music when streamed via a Touch to your 2 channel stereo." I would also note that DTS encoded wav or flac will stream via the Touch and can be decoded by a home theater receiver or processor via the Touch's digital outputs. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77576 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
Phil Leigh;538085 Wrote: > Well I've been running TinySC 24/96 flac -8 all day with VU meters on > and not a single stutter after the first 5 minutes... > So, clearly the platform IS capable of performing adequately under > certain circumstances. However it does seem "on the edge" with this > combo. If I skip tracks AND the VU is on I can provoke a brief > stutter.. > USR/BIN/JIVE has crept up to 75% with the VU's on... they seem to > consume 25-30% of the CPU on their own. those vu meters seem a little challenged on their own... is there any room to optimize the graphics layer as we go? -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Once again you are missing the point by a country mile. DSD is DSD is DSD regardless of the physical storage medium. I never said that Sony marketed SACD as an archive format - they wisely didn't, since physical media has a nasty habit of failing (brown/bronzed CD's anyone?). "Sony has ONLY marketed SACD as a one way ticket, meaning the DSD data on the SACD cannot be extracted for ANY purpose." Nonsense. The DSD data can be legitimately extracted from an SACD BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER(or authorised agent thereof) OF THE DATA FOR ANY PURPOSE. C'mon. This is basic stuff. The rights of the intellectual and/or mechanical copyright holder ALWAYS take precedence over anything else. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538202 Wrote: > Not really. Light transitions travel just as well through plastic as > "glass" over a few meters. And - to make toslink work - it really > doesn't have to travel all that well. One of my best friends owns a > company that actually makes fibre... It has to handle WAY more > bandwidth than Toslink.. > The real "problem" with toslink/optical are the transition points from > cable to opto-isolator/driver. > There really (almost) isn't such a thing as a "crappy" plastic cable - > but there are badly finished ends that scatter...and poorly fitting > connectors. > Anyway, this is way OT now! Then it sounds like maybe my plastic toslink cable had some poor termination to make it sound horrible. I'm just glad the hum is gone! -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Thanks for the explanation, Phil. I might not have imagined hearing a difference between coax and optical after all. :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Thanks for the explanation, Phil. I might not have imagined hearing a difference between coax and optical after all. :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
pounce;538189 Wrote: > > Well, good terminators and a crappy plastic cable between isn't going > to help. It's everything. The terminators, cable and receivers. Higher > quality is required for less jitter where coax can get by cheaper. Not really. Light transitions travel just as well through plastic as "glass" over a few meters. And - to make toslink work - it really doesn't have to travel all that well. One of my best friends owns a company that actually makes fibre... It has to handle WAY more bandwidth than Toslink.. The real "problem" with toslink/optical are the transition points from cable to opto-isolator/driver. There really (almost) isn't such a thing as a "crappy" plastic cable - but there are badly finished ends that scatter...and poorly fitting connectors. Anyway, this is way OT now! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Yes, terminations are critical and from what I'm reading are usually better on glass toslink cables. I was concerned about the quality of the conversion from electrical - optical - optical - electrical but I can honesty say that the glass Toslink sounds identical to the coaxial digital connection in my system (despite the hum) but the plastic Toslink was borderline disasterous sonically. It could be that a better quality plastic Toslink cable could be just as good as glass but why bother when the costs are not huge between the two. Certainly less than a tank of gas for my van! -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
Phil Leigh;538023 Wrote: > Sony will happily tell you that DSD is "the ultimate archival format" > and is thus the perfect source for this endeavour. The fact that the > data is being taken from a physical SACD rather than a file server > doesn't change that... Recording to the DSD format is touted by Sony as a good archiving method. However Sony has never marketed SACD as an archiving method. The process of archiving in the DSD format of material originally recorded to DSD digital audio is by using a computer or a standalone DSD recorder to record the audio and then this material is archived either on a computer hard drive or on a digital tape. It is never “archived” on an SACD. The workflow of creating an SACD from DSD is as follows: “The following specifications describe the input media formats Sony DADC currently accepts for high density Super Audio CD Mastering. Sony DADC accepts AIT 1 tapes with image content formatted in Sony Format 1.0. Super Audio CD orders require a DSD Cutting Master generated from a Sony Sonoma system.” http://www.sonydadc.com/opencms/opencms/sites/am/Products/Super_Audio_CD/Replication.html “Cutting Master: These steps combine all input data into a single disc image, an SACD Cutting Master, fully in compliance with the Scarlet Book specifications. The disc image is archived onto an AIT-1 tape. The resulting tape can then be transferred to a SA-CD disc production plant for replication.” http://superaudioproduction.com/guide.html Sony has ONLY marketed SACD as a one way ticket, meaning the DSD data on the SACD cannot be extracted for ANY purpose. Last thing I remember, I was Running for the door I had to find the passage back To the place I was before 'Relax,' said the night man, 'We are programmed to receive. You can check-out any time you like, But you can never leave!' -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
andyg;538084 Wrote: > The problem is not memory but CPU usage. There is no swap space, so if > you run out of memory things would be killed and you'd more than likely > have a forced reboot. So the speed of FLAC decoding is the problem, not > the amount of memory in use. We more than likely need to look at some > ARM assembler optimizations for the FLAC decoder. See > http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15361 I'm not so sure about that. When memory gets very tight the memory manager can assign physical memory that is currently occupied by code (instructions) to a new memory request. This does not take swap space because there is already backing store for the code. When that code comes around to being run again a page fault happens and it has to be loaded back into memory from backing store. If things are full some other code area gets used for this. When IT gets run ... This behavior does not cause a crash it just slows things down. Of course the memory manager will try and only give out physical memory used by code that has not been run in a long time. Thus the behavior being seen by some people sort of makes sense: when you first start playing high rez flac files you get some stuttering, but then it tends to go away and you don't have problems from then on even when playing new flac files. Over time things stabilize and the code in memory is what is being used all the time. The above scenario seems to me to be a reasonable possibility for what is happening, thus trying to determine if problems only happen while SBS is resident is important. It may not be what is happening but I think its important to find out if it is or not. Since we are now getting reports from people having problems with no USB or SD attached its definitely pointing towards it not being a memory issue. But there was also a report of hi rez WAV file having problems, that can't be the result of the flac decoder. The variability in reports is interesting. I can play 24/96 -8 flacs from an external server, wired or wireless, VU meters on without any problems. Stopping, starting, changing files etc. It works perfectly. Yet others are having problems with -5 files wired without visualizers. That should be a BIG difference in CPU usage. That seems point to something else going on other than just flac decoder. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Phil Leigh;538187 Wrote: > ? - both toslink and s/pdif are "digital". > sure. I think you know what I meant... coax.. but you are right to back hand me. :P > > The quality of a toslink cable is actually much less important than the > quality of the terminations at both ends. Well, good terminators and a crappy plastic cable between isn't going to help. It's everything. The terminators, cable and receivers. Higher quality is required for less jitter where coax can get by cheaper. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
pounce;538182 Wrote: > Lots of debate on toslink, but in the end it typically has less > bandwidth than digital. A PCF toslink cable is what you want for any > distance with less chance of damage. If you have groundloop issues and > don't need to run over a few feet then toslink is ideal. > > toslink is also more dependent on good components to eliminate jitter. > > Digital is much more likely to do 24/96 or 24/192. > > I use both. Using digital on the Touch at the moment. ? - both toslink and s/pdif are "digital". Actually toslink is arguably more "digital" than s/pdif but that's a bit OT. The quality of a toslink cable is actually much less important than the quality of the terminations at both ends. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Lots of debate on toslink, but in the end it typically has less bandwidth than digital. A PCF toslink cable is what you want for any distance with less chance of damage. If you have groundloop issues and don't need to run over a few feet then toslink is ideal. toslink is also more dependent on good components to eliminate jitter. Digital is much more likely to do 24/96 or 24/192. I use both. Using digital on the Touch at the moment. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Remote Control Codes
Seven;537970 Wrote: > I looked at the .ccf-file on remotecentral (the one from February 2004), > deduced the hex format from that and tried it with the discrete codes > listed in this thread. They seem to work fine on the Touch with my URC > MX-900 (using the hex editor). Seven - these both seem to be the same - can I ask you what you deduced as the format, I would liek to add some more discrete ones... -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77401 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Covenant;538075 Wrote: > Wow, what a great review-can't wait to get mine. I was interested in > your comment about glass optical interconnect cables. I use a high > quality coaxial one handmade by someone on one of the hifi forums. I > guess if it was produced by one of the well known makes it would cost > three figures. Have you compared yours to a decent coaxial? Glass > opticals are not often mentioned. > Sorry if this is an audiophile question but its your fault Logitech-you > have obviously made an audiophile product! What lead me to optical was that I had a slight ground loop (or something similar) going on when I had the SB2 connected via coaxial digital to the Pioneer. I had a cheap plastic Toslink cable that came with my PC's soundcard so I tried it and the low level hum went away but I wasn't happy with the mildly grainy (for lack of a better word) sound quality with the Toslink. I googled for "Toslink sound quality" and found lots of posts and jitter measurements comparing plastic to glass Toslink. The consensus was that glass is much better if your system can reveal the differences. I bought a 3' glass Toslink cable for about $30 (BetterCables.com) and the sound quality was grainless AND hum free. Problem solved. I like the idea of the connection being electrically decoupled in a sense. -- AudioFrog AudioFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Well.. id a $300 digital transport can get very close through the same Dac to a $2000 Transporter. I'd say that was pretty exceptional? -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
toby10;538155 Wrote: > I thought re-scans went pretty quick when swapping drives? Supposed to > just look for new music on a re-scan, no? My experience was 2 minutes to rescan a drive with 3400 files, 90 minutes to rescan a drive with 38000 files. It's obviously not linear with the number of files. While you can play music during the rescan, the UI is pretty sluggish. Kim -- krochat -- iZotope SRC (96kHz offline upsampler) -> Touch -> TacT RCS 2.2X -> Convolver PC (w/Acourate filter)-> Apogee Big Ben -> (TacT S2150 -> Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT S2150 -> TacT W210) krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
krochat;538136 Wrote: > Sure, there are just lots of caveats: > > 1) Don't use Hi-Rez material - no higher than CD quality. > (because tinySC will stutter on hi-rez at default compression) > 2) Don't have more than 10,000 files or so on the disk > (because initial scan and rescan times can be long) > 3) Don't plan on swapping disks > (because rescan times can be long) > 4) Don't use high FLAC compression levels > (the default of -5 works OK with CD quality material). > 5) Playlists can't have more than 100 entries > 6) If using a 2.5" USB hard drive, make sure it has adequate power. > 7) There may still be a problem/bug with artwork disappearing - it > works for some folks. Thanks for your swift reply:) 1,3,4,5,6,7 aint big issues (for me) - but the 10 000 files thing bothers me a bit. A long initial scan i can live with, but what "times" are we talking about for rescans after adding new files? -- mikkeldaase mikkeldaase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Mnyb;538119 Wrote: > But can you stop the initial scan ? or rescan ? > > with BMF the album will be scanned once browsed to, so you be building > your dB one folder at the time.. Don't think you can stop just the scan, you can only stop TinySC that I'm aware of. I don't have the huge libraries that others here have, but my My Music > Music Folders were all available very quickly, even during the scan. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
krochat;538136 Wrote: > . > 3) Don't plan on swapping disks > (because rescan times can be long) > I thought re-scans went pretty quick when swapping drives? Supposed to just look for new music on a re-scan, no? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: > Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb > harddisk as the sole music source? Sure, there are just lots of caveats: 1) Don't use Hi-Rez material - no higher than CD quality. (because tinySC will stutter on hi-rez at default compression) 2) Don't have more than 10,000 files or so on the disk (because initial scan and rescan times can be long) 3) Don't plan on swapping disks (because rescan times can be long) 4) Don't use high FLAC compression levels (the default of -5 works OK with CD quality material). 5) Playlists can't have more than 100 entries 6) If using a 2.5" USB hard drive, make sure it has adequate power. 7) There may still be a problem/bug with artwork disappearing - it works for some folks. -- krochat -- iZotope SRC (96kHz offline upsampler) -> Touch -> TacT RCS 2.2X -> Convolver PC (w/Acourate filter)-> Apogee Big Ben -> (TacT S2150 -> Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT S2150 -> TacT W210) krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: > So, > I have been waiting for the touch but have been seriously discouraged > by the responses at the forum regarding USB Harddisks. > > Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb > harddisk as the sole music source? Hello and Welcome to the Forum. To answer your question there are plenty of both, that is USB drives that work and people using it as the sole source. I for example am listening to a 2TB Seagate USB drive on my Touch which is feeding music to a Boom, SB3, SB Radio, Duet and of course the Touch. As for drives, I have successfully used a Toshiba 320GB, 500GB, and 640GB USB pocket drives (these are USB powered drives, no external power). The 2TB Seagate and a 1TB WD MyBook both external powered USB drives. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
mikkeldaase;538131 Wrote: > Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb > harddisk as the sole music source? Define 'properly'... What are you asking? If anybody has a disk that works, or if the server works as expected? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
So, I have been waiting for the touch but have been seriously discouraged by the responses at the forum regarding USB Harddisks. Are there any reports of squeezebox touch working properly with a usb harddisk as the sole music source? -- mikkeldaase mikkeldaase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37691 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
The people that make $15K to $100K turntables don't like it when Stereophile and TAS say that digital is good much less that a $300 Touch could become ones main audio source device! They couldn't do it with the Transporter (with it looking and sounding audiophile), how are they going to do it with the Touch? But I hear what your saying and generally agree. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
toby10;538118 Wrote: > Finger prints on the screen. ;) But I got a nice polishing cloth with it ;) I better go polish my Touch now.. Hmm might not supply peanuts or nachos on my next party, then I have to put it in the dishes ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
toby10;538116 Wrote: > It's there, no scanning needed... > Touch > My Music > Music Folder But can you stop the initial scan ? or rescan ? with BMF the album will be scanned once browsed to, so you be building your dB one folder at the time.. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
usch;538099 Wrote: > I guess that means you could operate the Touch with a mouse and a > keyboard instead of the touchscreen. Not sure why anybody would want to > do that, but if it is easily implemented, why not have the option? Finger prints on the screen. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
AudioFrog;538012 Wrote: > If the Touch doesn't make Product Of The Year by Stereophile or Absolute > Sound then I will lose complete faith in the audio press. rant I've never heard the Touch, but I have read/seen Stereophile as well as the Absolute sound, and my guess is that you may just as well let it go right now... /rant -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
sckramer;538112 Wrote: > I wonder if a simple "Music Folder" mode could be added, instead of > scanning and building a database-- for now until they figure out how to > optimize it. It's there, no scanning needed... Touch > My Music > Music Folder -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
I wonder if a simple "Music Folder" mode could be added, instead of scanning and building a database-- for now until they figure out how to optimize it. -- sckramer Sb touch -- PS Audio DL3 (Cullen level 3) -- PS Audio Trio C-100 (Cullen level 3) -- energy veritas 2.3i -- Martin Logan descent psaudio ac3 power cables -- psaudio duet -- cardas quadlink 5 interconnect -- Transparent digital cable -- audio quest slate spkr cables biwire sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
And then just go to Touch > My Music to switch back to the Touch from MySB. You can make "switch to MySB" a home menu item for faster switch selection. Touch > Settings > Home Menu > "switch to MySB" If by "remote player" you mean a player using Touch's inbuilt server to access MySB, yes it does. I have four players (Touch + 3 players) using Touch as the server. They all can switch back and forth between MySB and Touch, or just use Touch to access My Apps. If you switch Touch to MySB (while using the inbuilt server) all attached players are brought over to MySB. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
I believe it takes about 4 or 5 hours to scan 3 files (240 Gbyte) on a 320 Gbyte freecom USB HDD. I could live with that once but it rescans the lot if you eject the USB. Why can't I manually control the scan (and the scan folders for that matter)? Why should it need to rescan if I haven't added any files? Furthermore my albumart has only worked intermitently and I've had plenty of problems with it hanging showing "scanning stopped with a problem" or it says its still scanning but the HDD isn't rotating. I believe the GUI may be generally unresponsive because it always seems to be scanning. So, although the device shows promise it's unusable for me at present. -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
I guess that means you could operate the Touch with a mouse and a keyboard instead of the touchscreen. Not sure why anybody would want to do that, but if it is easily implemented, why not have the option? -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
pounce;538087 Wrote: > I'm confused about seeing mice and keyboards on this list. It was originally drawn up as a _USB_ device compatibility list. Perhaps it needs to be broke into two parts. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
JohnSwenson;538070 Wrote: > In order to fit in the limited resources in the Touch the server > software has to have some of its functionality disabled. For large > collections its just trying to cram too much stuff into a small box. I > think you will be much happier with an external server. > > A VortexBox or Sheevaplug will almost certainly be a much better fit > with a large collection. > > John S. The internal memory of the ST is only 27% full after scanning 35000 files. In any case, Logitech should publicize any limitations. On one of their forums I see they mention it had been tested with a 2 TB drive. -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
Mr_Sukebe;537719 Wrote: > Did you try the Factory settings reset? As mentioned, I did that after > playing around and not getting that far with the initial scan. It's > performed flawlessly since. Yes I tried that -- RichardLittlewood RichardLittlewood's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] HDD for touch
Thanks. I'm confused about seeing mice and keyboards on this list. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77639 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
Well I've been running TinySC 24/96 flac -8 all day with VU meters on and not a single stutter after the first 5 minutes... So, clearly the platform IS capable of performing adequately under certain circumstances. However it does seem "on the edge" with this combo. If I skip tracks AND the VU is on I can provoke a brief stutter.. USR/BIN/JIVE has crept up to 75% with the VU's on... they seem to consume 25-30% of the CPU on their own. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
The problem is not memory but CPU usage. There is no swap space, so if you run out of memory things would be killed and you'd more than likely have a forced reboot. So the speed of FLAC decoding is the problem, not the amount of memory in use. We more than likely need to look at some ARM assembler optimizations for the FLAC decoder. See http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15361 -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
JohnSwenson;538070 Wrote: > For large collections its just trying to cram too much stuff into a > small box. > > John S. how big is large? when is it too large? what happens when it is too large and which features/services should therefore be avoided? there is no documentation suggesting a restriction. I've got a big/full/huge SBS on WHS but bought the Touch specifically to act as a server at my GF's streaming to a receiver and Radio. The USB Drive has 26,212 mostly FLAC tracks, I'm sure there is duplication and genres I can do without but how many should I remove? -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
JohnSwenson;538070 Wrote: > For large collections its just trying to cram too much stuff into a > small box. > > John S. how big is large? when is it too large? what happens when it is too large and which features/services should therefore be avoided? there is no documentation suggesting a restriction. I've got a big/full/huge SBS on WHS but bought the Touch specifically to act as a server at my GF's streaming to a receiver and Radio. The USB Drive has 26,212 mostly FLAC tracks, I'm sure there is duplication and genres I can do without but how many should I remove? -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Delivery of Touch to UK
Tripmaster;537944 Wrote: > 35%!!! :) Yep-an order cock-up.I didn't complain How very very decent of them... -- Covenant Covenant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77546 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Yeah - nice post, Audiofrog... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My thoughts on the sound quality of the Touch
Wow, what a great review-can't wait to get mine. I was interested in your comment about glass optical interconnect cables. I use a high quality coaxial one handmade by someone on one of the hifi forums. I guess if it was produced by one of the well known makes it would cost three figures. Have you compared yours to a decent coaxial? Glass opticals are not often mentioned. Sorry if this is an audiophile question but its your fault Logitech-you have obviously made an audiophile product! -- Covenant Covenant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77649 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24bits/96hz is stuttering like crazy
Valconi;537877 Wrote: > I have a fully wired network. Wav 24/96 and Flac 24/96 at -0 works > great and fast. Via usb only Flac 0 works, like I said in the previous > post. Wav is very distorted. > The Touch is processing this data that's exactly the same. So my guess > is that the Touch must have the possibility to play the wavfiles > through the usbconnection too. It uses the same memory as when it's > played through the network, I assume. > And is there any chance off improvement on the transferspeed from pc to > TouchUSB? It's very slow at the time. 700 kb/s is all it can do. When running off a USB drive plugged into the Touch you are running the server software on the Touch as well as the player software. This takes up a lot more memory, the result is that it can get into a very low memory situation which can affect the performance of everything. Anything which uses more memory can make the situation worse. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77550 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] No Access to My Apps with internal server
ste1;538050 Wrote: > Hi Mitch > > How do you implement workaround 2 that leaves tinySBS running on Touch > but enables connection to mysb.com for Apps?? > > Thanks > S All I did was the follow the link .. DigitalMitch;537886 Wrote: > > > 2) you can "force" the switch via Settings/Advanced/Networking/... > > .. and choose the 'Switch to mysqueezebox.com'. This switches the Touch as player to mySB but leaves the tinySBS in background, presumably it would still serve to a remote player but didn't test this. When you are finished with mySB you can switch back without the tinySBS without it having to restart and rescan. Obviously since the Touch player is connected to mySB it won't be playing whatever tinySBS is, therefore this is a partial solution only. hopefully this isn't unique to me, so please let us know how you get on. -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77465 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
