Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Changing Settings w/out web access
pendletone55 wrote: Then tell me something. What good is the touch? If it cannot serve as the SBServer Er, its a fine, limited SBServer. Its not a full blown PC/mac running SBServer, its too small in RAM and the CPU is too slow. Its called TinySC for a reason. I've never seen any claim that it will replace the real SqueezeBoxServer in all cases. I expect that over time, the TinySC will grow and be more capable, but its never going to be as capable as a old discarded desktop PC with real memory and real CPU. Its good as a replacement for your ancient Classic, and for folks with limited requirements the bundled TinySC is fine. For years, folks have bought SqueezeBoxen and then complained that they had to run a server. So the TinySC solves the problem for a lot of folks. But not for all. If I were King, I might have released the Touch last year without TinySC, because its a nice player. But I'm not King. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
pounce;540272 Wrote: What do you want specifically from the community? 1. First of all I am just reporting a finding. 2. People that might consider to use the Touch as a server and a transport at the same time should be aware of this finding. 3. If others don't experience my finding, I might have a problem with my box or my settings. (I do have a hum issue on my box on the headphone out, which I reported in another thread.) Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
Mnyb;540374 Wrote: What I wonder here is. Is there any guideline or consensus for when a setting. 1. Should be local ? 2. Integrated with the squeezeboxserver ? 3. Integrated with squeezeboxserver and mysqueezebox.com ? 1 2 is possible for 3rd party devs to accomplish 3 needs logitechs cooperation. As far as I know there isn't any guideline available, at least have haven't seen any. I suspect it's decided based on if the server needs to know about the setting or if it needs to be possible to remote control from a Controller, if it doesn't it's handled locally. Things that needs to be remotely controlled by a Squeezebox Controller have to be known by the server or accessed through the server. If a typical user likes to sit in the couch when changing something, it needs to be accessible through the Controller. That's one reason why for example volume is possible to control/view via the server. Some typical guidelines when things should be implemented/accessible through eh server: - When the typical user is going to control it from the couch - When it's something that's changed several times a week Third party add-ons are probably going to focus on local applet implementation/patches because patching the server isn't fun at all, especially on Windows where it's a compiled exe. Some things can be implemented as third party plugins on the server side but many of these things will require modifications to the core code of the server to make it a good solution. Also most settings accessible through the server are also expected to work on MySB unless it's something that's only relevant to local music. I suspect balance would have been accessed via the server if Logitech implemented it, because they probably want it to be accessible by a Squeezebox Controller. We are probably going to see a local implementation if it's done by third parties, at least initially. For the balance setting, I personally don't think a local implementation is a big problem, most users that like to setup balance is probably going to set it up once and then never touch it again. In most cases, the reason to adjust balance is because of non optimal room layout or speaker placement. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
... or hearing difficulties. The use-case where it isn't set forget has been exposed in this thread already - sub-optimal recordings. In this use-case my opinion is that the recording should be permanently fixed via editing, because then it will be usuable on other players which may not have balance control either. So, a player-side patch would work for most people who need this feature and there is a viable workaround (that IMO is actually a better solution anyway) for the rest. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540405 Wrote: Folks. FYI. I just stepped over a comment of John Svensson at the USB driver/plugin thread, where he pretty much confirms what I am saying about streaming vs. local operation. Cheers No he doesn't... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=535660postcount=25 Are you using headphones? If not, then there is no difference. With headphones plugged in, something subtle happens (I haven't had chance to test/measure that yet). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Blanking display.
I also think that a real headless workmode, which switches off all graphic related routines on the SW side and the hardware side would be nice. Because even if the screen is turned off it doesn't necessarily mean that the SW in the back stopped working. This mode should be manageable via a parameter config on the server or from the remote control. BTW: What I realized is if I stop playback by deleting the entire playlist (iPeng) the screensaver off handling gets scrambled. The screen is no longer off. It goes into black mode with backlight on or no screensaver at all anymore. I guess this must be a bug. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77836 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
There is nothing : Your HD will go in sleep mode after some time without any acces. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77284 -- roubil roubil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37518 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540426 Wrote: 1. How about that one: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=481447postcount=6 John is doing wild guessing too. As I said. Nobody has ever shown what's going on. 2. On headphones something happens. If you don't listen to headphones there is nothing. Hmmh, interesting statement and very strong argumentation. You need to read it twice though to figure that there is a slight contradiction in that statement. ;) However, if you say there is nothing, there is nothing. Fair enough, even though it sounds like your personal opinion to me. I could ask you now what system are we talking about in your case - I won't do that - since it doesn't mean anything anyhow! To me you're confirming my finding too. If you call the changes subtle, fair enough - in a way they are subtle. If you hear them on the headphone they will have a higher impact on a real good system in terms of e.g. depth of stage. You'll never hear that kind of stage through your headphones anyhow. So, the next stage in this discussion will be that your measurements won't show anything. If these don't show anything there is nothing, will be the next argument. Phil, believe me, I had arguments about this topic at AA with Gordon Rankin etc. It took them almost 3 years to figure out or rather to admit that there is something they can't properly explain. The great thing with the Touch is that it got rid of 90% of all the trouble making sources in comparison to a standard PC. And the other good thing is that a little tweaking will make it even better. And I am also sure that a revised DUET would have been better performing than a Touch - at least on 44.1/16. The DUET was as slim as a streaming client(a FPGA based device) can get. I am sure that the Touch would face a hard time today to beat an revised DUET( PS, SPDIF and other HW tweaks as discussed in the forum ). Cheers Play and listen - AB comparisons - it was pretty obvious to me.. ... and that isn't an opinion? The Touch is a completely different design to the Duet. In my opinion (!) no amount of Duet mods will improve it over a stock Touch. There seems to be something about the implementation of the Touch headphone circuit that could be improved, since it appears that if headphones are connected AND a USB drive is connected, there is some degradation. This should be measurable with ADM and I hope to do such a test soon. I have no preconception about what the results will be. However, if you record the analogue output of a Duet or SB3 and compare back to the original wav file via ADM and repeat with the Touch you will find that the Touch is closer to the truth (ie closer to the original file). -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
Thank you for your reply. But after some time must be a parameter in a configuration file. Has somebody an idea where I can find this configuration file? Thanxs, wimpf -- wimpf wimpf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Phil Leigh;540434 Wrote: ... and that isn't an opinion? NO. It is a result of a real life test in an adequate test environment. Phil Leigh;540434 Wrote: The Touch is a completely different design to the Duet. In my opinion (!) no amount of Duet mods will improve it over a stock Touch. You missed the logic behind my arguments. The Touch must be considered a PC like device. It has a running Linux incl. Alsa sound layer as base on it ( I know how much trouble this stuff can cause. The Logitech guys are using a pretty old Kernel/Alsa for the Touch btw. -- which might be OK for their purposes.. The new 2.6.33-rt and Alsa 1.0.22b are ways more advanced then the used 2.6.26-rt and Alsa 1.0.16). One thing is obvious to me, the designers are aware of certain challenges associated to realtime audio streaming from a PC - that's why they have chosen a rt-kernel. The monitor must be causing extra load and interferences, etc. too. For sure the designers were facing huge challenges to get the Touch where it is today. Though, if you follow the logic Less is more the DUET IMO delivers the much higher potential. Of course a stock DUET wouldn't ever beat a Touch. From a commercial perspective there is no question that the Touch is the more appealing and probably better selling device. A revised DUET would have not been sellable. If you don't have at least 24/96 on your spec you're out today. Cheers -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Well, I know you are going to disagree, but here is a TEST anyway: Source: 30-second WAV clip of Limehouse Blues from Jazz at the Pawnshop Replayed via SBS and via TinySC (using a self powered USB drive), analogue (RCA) out captured into M-Audio 24/96 @24/44.1 ADM comparison (at highest possible quality settings - takes a long time to run) of the two recordings shows that the difference is white noise @ -86dB which I would put down to self-noise in the input stage of the M-Audio ADC and mostly the analogue output stage of the Touch. So with a self-powered USB drive there is NO difference on the analogue outs between TinySC and SBS. Not an opinion... a fully repeatable test. Now to find some headphones... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Performance comparison between my old Server and Touch internal one?
I tred plugging my usb HDD directly into the Touch... to be honest I felt teh performance was a wee bit slow, especially when dealing with playlists.. I didnt have ay of Erlands plugins installed I was using 7.5 I know 7.6 expects some performance enhancements over 7.5...does this apply to using the inbuilt Server too?? Thanks. Meanwhile Ive set up 7.5 on my fast PC and running it at 5%Min 10%Max CPU power through Power Options in windows.. It goes into standby after 5 minutes and Wake On Lan is set up whe I switch the Squeezebox. Everything happens in an instant, which is great, but I would prefer not to use my main OC just for squeezecentre. So a solution is still ongoing.. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77733 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] put harddisc into standby
wimpf;540437 Wrote: Thank you for your reply. But after some time must be a parameter in a configuration file. Has somebody an idea where I can find this configuration file? Thanxs, wimpf This is determined by the Power Management of your HDD, nothing to do with the Touch. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77932 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
Tony T;540367 Wrote: No, I'm trying to install applets with just the Touch TinySC Yes, I understand. ;) But TinySC has full access to MySB and it's Apps and services. Applets (at least most of them) are stored and down loadable from MySB so as to accommodate those not running a full SBS. This way the Radio and Touch can utilize Applets without ever connecting to TinySC or SBS. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Well - very interesting. I plugged in some Sennheiser PMX60's into the Touch and repeated the test above, comparing TinySC with phones in vs. TinySC with no phones. The overall correlation null drops by 6dB to -80dB, meaning that with Phones connected the analogue signal via RCA out is changed. What is more, the change is mostly on the Right channel out of the Touch. The left channel is much less affected by the Phones being in-circuit (2dB). I repeated the test several times with consistent results. I would expect this small difference to be detectable by some people under the right circumstances. It will probably depend on which phones are used - I'm guessing the impedance will matter. I'll try and see what happens with Phones in and replay via sbs... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Phil Leigh;540401 Wrote: ... Don't knock it until you've tried it. There is no difference at all in the s/pdif stream (which is captured perfectly, using the soundcard locked to the Touch clock) using internal or external streaming. They are identical. Ok. I'll give it a go. When you see a difference how do you know it's actually audible and not something that's masked by the content? The test approach would be to baseline with whatever AD you have regardless of quality? I struggle with this a bit since you probably want to have as high of resolution as possible in theory to make this work well. wrt SPDIF I think the testing would want to look for Jitter which would/could impact the DAC on the receiving end and result in audible differences. I don't think this software is going to help at all with jitter testing. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Touch keeps a permanent connection to MySB. Given the fact that MySB tends to still have performance issues on weekends, could this be a scheduling issue or something related to that? SqueezePlay runs all server communication links in the same thread in a kind of cooperative-multitasking scheduler. If one of these connections blocks, could it theoretically lock up others or at least consume enough time to cause trouble with decoding even though I believe the actual streaming happens on a different thread? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
pounce;540472 Wrote: Ok. I'll give it a go. When you see a difference how do you know it's actually audible and not something that's masked by the content? The test approach would be to baseline with whatever AD you have regardless of quality? I struggle with this a bit since you probably want to have as high of resolution as possible in theory to make this work well. wrt SPDIF I think the testing would want to look for Jitter which would/could impact the DAC on the receiving end and result in audible differences. I don't think this software is going to help at all with jitter testing. 1) (on analogue) there are two sorts of differences you encounter - white noise at very low level - probably inaudible - and residual traces of the music... potentially audible unless very low level. Based on my experience, anything below -80dB (as reported on ADM for 16-bit material) is almost certainly inaudible in practice. 2) wrt jitter testing - it does help IF you record the analogue output from the DAC - because that is where the effects of any jitter actually manifest themselves. Recording the spdif is something you do once to prove to yourself it works... The only meaningful way to record spdif is to lock the soundcard sample rate clock to the incoming stream. Looking for jitter prior to a DAC is like looking for a needle in a haystack... 3) The resolution of the AD (in my case 24/96) does not really matter as you are looking for deltas between 2 (theoretically) steady state conditions. Provided that the AD res is equal to or higher than the source material... it works. Once you have a difference file, you need to listen to it and study it with a spectrum analyser/plotter. Usually the difference will need to be amplified a lot (e.g. +50dB of gain). You soon get the hang of it. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Duet Controller Connectivitity issues w/7.5 update
I did get the controller SW to update via mysqueezebox.com, that was no problem. I seem to have resolved the issue for a while (since last night) - It seems to be a router DHCP issue.I ended up assigning a static IP to the SB server - and this seems to have resolved the connectivitity issues with the controller. It has only been up a day, so hopefully this works long term. I would like to give static ip to the controllers as well, but after reading the boards I still am not sure how to get the controller to accept a static IP. Thanks for the help, JET -- redjet redjet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77909 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
johsti;540289 Wrote: Yeah, $50 is $50, but not that much if you compare it to the cost of going to see one concert. It cost $50 bucks for a concert ticket and one beer these days!!! Yeah, for a cheap concert! :-) johsti;540289 Wrote: My concern is that if I don't get one now, I may not ever get one. I don't think you have to worry about that. Logitech isn't like Sony mp3/walkman division. If you think you will want more than one, you could always jump on one from Logitech now (and take advantage of the coupon with free overnight shipping) and wait on Crutchfield for the second one. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
pippin;540474 Wrote: Touch keeps a permanent connection to MySB. Given the fact that MySB tends to still have performance issues on weekends, could this be a scheduling issue or something related to that? SqueezePlay runs all server communication links in the same thread in a kind of cooperative-multitasking scheduler. If one of these connections blocks, could it theoretically lock up others or at least consume enough time to cause trouble with decoding even though I believe the actual streaming happens on a different thread? Could be an explanation, but I doubt it, because I had the big stuttering-problems on weekdays as well. What also speaks against this theory is the fact that my HR-Flacs stutterd last saturday when played from USB, but I had no problem playing the same files from the SD-card. And today, as I said before, no more problems at all, no matter what device I use fo playback :-) -- Soundman Soundman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Perhaps some process crashed on you ;) Give it a factory reset to see if you get get it to stutter again ...heh. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Well... the presence/absence of connected headphones has a much smaller (measured) effect on SBS replay than it does on TinySC replay. Also the impact is still greater on the right channel with both SBS and TinySC. I'd need to study the circuit diagram and physical board layout to even hazard a guess at this l/r discrepancy...with phones connected and why the connection of phones seems to affect TinySC more than SBS. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Well... the presence/absence of connected headphones has a much smaller (measured) effect on SBS replay than it does on TinySC replay. Also the impact is still greater on the right channel with both SBS and TinySC. I'd need to study the circuit diagram and physical board layout to even hazard a guess at this l/r discrepancy...with phones connected and why the connection of phones seems to affect TinySC more than SBS. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
pounce;540485 Wrote: Perhaps some process crashed on you ;) Give it a factory reset to see if you get get it to stutter again ...heh. you bet... :-) -- Soundman Soundman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Phil Leigh;540489 Wrote: Well... the presence/absence of connected headphones has a much smaller (measured) effect on SBS replay than it does on TinySC replay. Also the impact is still greater on the right channel with both SBS and TinySC. I'd need to study the circuit diagram and physical board layout to even hazard a guess at this l/r discrepancy...with phones connected and why the connection of phones seems to affect TinySC more than SBS. Do you have an SD card to test TinySC with USB and SD to see if it's a power issue? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
pounce;540495 Wrote: Do you have an SD card to test TinySC with USB and SD to see if it's a power issue? I'll see if I can borrow one from my daughter... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
pounce;540495 Wrote: Do you have an SD card to test TinySC with USB and SD to see if it's a power issue? He better answers your question with YES. ;) Otherwise I'd be wondering what we're discussing over here all day long. :D -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Oh. I was too slow. As a matter of fact he said NO. He needs to borrow one. It's been a pleasure talking to you guys. ;) -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
soundcheck;540503 Wrote: He better answers your question with YES. ;) Otherwise I'd be wondering what we're discussing over here all day long. :D I'll have one in 3 hours. I have no idea what you are talking about... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
johsti;540289 Wrote: ... My concern is that if I don't get one now, I may not ever get one. I know they just came out, but for any other product, I'd think the Touch has already been discontinued. I hope the train wreck analogy is correct, and we start seeing more availability. I guess time will tell. I'll have to agree that availability for the Touch has been very spotty and the rollout worldwide has been slower than I would like. Availability is much better in Europe, and is slowly catching up in the US and Canada. The Touch is definitely not discontinued; the factory is gearing up to make more. Mickey -- MickeyG Transporter Classé Audio DR6 Mark Levinson 23 Wilson Watt 3/Puppy 1/Martin Logan Dynamo 700 MickeyG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Phil Leigh;539823 Wrote: Thanks Struts - you've been a great help. I've just been testing this on my system but of course I have a TACT (with ASRC) betwixt Touch and DAC so the DAC never loses lock from the TACT. I can flick around between any tracks without issue. Now what we need is someone from Logitech to comment on why the Touch is behaving differently to the other devices... Phil, Thanks for your help with this issue. Did you report this as a bug or do we wait for a comment from logitech in this thread ? As it is now I cannot use my Touch on hirez material. I might have to return it to the shop. Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540534 Wrote: Phil, As it is now I cannot use my Touch on hirez material. Why? Also, anything stopping you from calling support or opening a bug? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
pounce;540536 Wrote: Why? Also, anything stopping you from calling support or opening a bug? 1) because he has a type of DAC that has an issue switching rapidly from 96-44.1-96 - some DACs do that. It seems that the Touch - unlike other models - reverts to 44.1 between tracks, whereas I think the other devices hold the last used sample rate until a new one arrives...I can't check on that at the moment - hands full with other stuff. 2) No! - PaalJ you need to raise a bug, referencing this thread. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
I acknowledge the issue, but the Touch is still working for hirez material so I'm not sure it's correct to say I cannot use my Touch on hirez material. He can, but it's not ideal. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
pounce;540536 Wrote: Why? Also, anything stopping you from calling support or opening a bug? Because my power amps is directly connected to my DAC and the pop's and clicks is damaging my speakers. If needed I will call support, but if it already is confirmed as a bug. It should not be necesary. As you can see I am a junior member and need some time to learn how to open a bug. -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
pounce;540542 Wrote: I acknowledge the issue, but the Touch is still working for hirez material so I'm not sure it's correct to say I cannot use my Touch on hirez material. He can, but it's not ideal. I'm starting to see where your forum name comes from... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
R Johnson;538597 Wrote: I have now have a Touch, the CSO Resound recording of the Bruckner 7th Symphony (conducted by Haitink) as a 16/44.1 CD and as a 24/88.2 download from HDtracks. I guess it's time to learn what difference(s) I can discern. Still waiting for an update on this post. The issue presented in this quoted post really gets to the crux and heart of one of the sub-issues of this entire thread: can a real world person in a real world environment with a squeezebox easily discern the difference in quality of audio that is alleged to be encoded at better than CD quality of 15/44.1? -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Amazon shows it in stock and shipping. That's a good sign. Hopefully stock doesn't run out in a day or two. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
MickeyG;540526 Wrote: The Touch is definitely not discontinued; the factory is gearing up to make more. Oh boy, that shouldn't take more that a couple months before they're available in the US... Why doesn't Logitech just pull the plug on the whole Squeezebox line and be done with it? Sell the product line to a company capable of developing it or else just shitcan the whole thing. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
Yes it does work. I never got around to writting the applet to set that up. Now that the Touch is out and there is a little interest in it I'll go ahead and put it together. Full plug and play is not going to be easy though. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch showing error whith Flickr or Facebook pictures.
Hi, Exactly the same issue... any update on this problem? Internet connectivity doesn't look to be the issue, since web radios are working fine. -- lecis lecis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37833 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
Someone probably already figured this out, but what is the best way to use a SB3 and a Touch in the same room? My plan was to put the Touch by my sofa and use as a remote and cover art display, and keep my SB3 by the amp and use it together with the normal IR remote. Is this possible? If not I guess I have to downgrade my SB3 to a display, turning off all IR and sync it to the Touch. (tried to STF but its broken and I just got an empty screen) -- superpin superpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
superpin;540591 Wrote: Someone probably already figured this out, but what is the best way to use a SB3 and a Touch in the same room? My plan was to put the Touch by my sofa and use as a remote and cover art display, and keep my SB3 by the amp and use it together with the normal IR remote. Is this possible? If not I guess I have to downgrade my SB3 to a display, turning off all IR and sync it to the Touch. (tried to STF but its broken and I just got an empty screen) That should work. You can use the touch as a controller. I'm doing this with a SB receiver in my living room. The touch is controllable with the IR remote too, so you'll want to disable that via a setting in the web UI. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
MickeyG;540526 Wrote: The Touch is definitely not discontinued; the factory is gearing up to make more. Mickey That is good news. Thanks. -- johsti johsti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sending audio to USB DAC?
John, Cool. Is there something I can tweak on my side to give it a try without a full blown applet? I'm ok without plug n play. If all it needs is a soft reset or power cycle to reconnect or enable the USB out that seems reasonable. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77927 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
maggior;540595 Wrote: The touch is controllable with the IR remote too, so you'll want to disable that via a setting in the web UI. Where? I have looked but I cannot find that choice on the Touch, only on the SB3s and Boom. Tried on directly on the Touch without any luck either, but perhaps its possible via SSH? -- superpin superpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
Unfortunately Touch has no such setting to turn off IR commands like the SB3/Boom do. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch showing error whith Flickr or Facebook pictures.
Are you in Europe ? I think these applets might use MySB for rescaling images and then these problems might be caused by the MySB problems we have seen during the last weeks in Europe. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
toby10;540602 Wrote: Unfortunately Touch has no such setting to turn off IR commands like the SB3/Boom do. ...sigh... I see. Nothing like consistency. At least there is a 3rd party plugin that can address it. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
I have used a piece of tinted plastic on the end of the remote, it reduces the signal enough that you have to point the remote at the unit you want to control. (old batteries might accomplish the same thing) Dan -- danluckes danluckes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
Hi there See here: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility Felix -- fcm4711 Focus means saying no. - Steve Jobs fcm4711's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
erland;540601 Wrote: 1. If you have a universal or JVC remote you can switch the SB3 to JVC remote codes Can you change the Touch to use the JVC codes, thus essentially disabling it? That would accomplish the same thing. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 33,060 songs, 2,656 albums, 484 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility 1. FAT16 2. FAT32 3. NTFS 4. ext2/ext3 But who knows what could be built in to it ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
erland;540601 Wrote: 3. You can install the Disable IR remote third party patch through the third party Patch Installer applet on the Touch which will disable all IR remote control. Personally, I've degraded the SB3 to be a clock. The Touch produces better sound quality so it seems like a waste to not output the audio signal from it. The drawback is of course that the touch screen is rarely used since it's placed by the amplifier and not by the couch. Thanks Erland, then I at least have the option to turn off the IR on the Touch, that was of course my real question and I don't know why I didn't just ask how to accomplish that... ;) I think I need to play around with the possibilities until I find what works best (and yes, I know I will end up buying an ipod with ipeng, the Touch by the amplifier looking cool and the SB3 as an display unit that's actually readable from the whole room). -- superpin superpin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
All tests are recorded from the analogue outs using the same 30 second
clip (see earlier post):
Left/Right Channel correlation: higher number = closer match (fewer
differences)
(USB disk not connected)
1) SD Card + Headphones in vs. SD Card + Headphones out: L:100/R:103
2) USB Disk + Headphones in vs. USB Disk + Headphones out: L:86/R:86
{USB Disk connected, TinySC running but not playing}
3) SBS + Headphones in vs. SBS + Headphones out: L:90/R:93
{headphones out, USB connected}
4) SD vs. USB: L:90/R:93
5) SD vs. SBS: L:83/R:84
6) USB vs SBS: L:99/R:100
{headphones out,USB Disk disconnected when SBS is used}
7) SD vs. SBS: L:91/R:95
8) USB vs. SBS: L:79/R:80
(headphones out)
9) SBS (USB connected) vs SBS (USB Disconnected): L:80/R:80
Interim Conclusions:
1) connecting headphones may affect RCA playback slightly, but only
when usb disk is also attached.
2) SD playback is unnaffected by headphones
3) Having the usb disk connected and TinySC running may affect SBS
playback...
Remember, correlations higher than circa 70 are usually heard as
identical under normal listening conditions.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x
LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue
Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables
Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
Cool. Interesting. Looks like power may have an impact. Have a powered usb hub to try the diff? ;) -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
mortslim;540576 Wrote: Still waiting for an update on this post. The issue presented in this quoted post really gets to the crux and heart of one of the sub-issues of this entire thread: can a real world person in a real world environment with a squeezebox easily discern the difference in quality of audio that is alleged to be encoded at better than CD quality of 15/44.1? This is indeed the heart of the matter. But it's not easy to conduct a reliable test, especially single-handedly. In addition to the CD and the 24/88.2 download, I've also made three sets of digital files from the CD: WAV w/o compression, 320Kbps MP3 and 160Kbps MP3. My system is real world, NOT audiophile: a Sony AVR and PSB Image 2B loudspeakers. (In my audiophile days I owned Quad ESL-57s.) I've only done a limited amount of comparisons, but I think I can reliably say that I CANNOT easily discern the difference in quality of audio between the 24/88.2 download and the CD quality WAV file. More later, especially after I've brought the Touch out to a friend's house for listening with a high-end system. -- R Johnson R Johnson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
thanks for the link, I don't see XFS listed there :-(. Maybe some of the devs knows what modules are built into the kernel of the touch and may clarify on the issue here. ;-) -- t0mg t0mg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37834 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
pounce;540616 Wrote: Cool. Interesting. Looks like power may have an impact. Have a powered usb hub to try the diff? ;) The usb disk I was using has its own PSU - I don't have any that will run from Touch power alone... :-( -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SQ: streaming vs. local operation
You don't need a powered hub if your drive is powered externally. That's interesting. You are running ethernet, yes? I need to try this now. I'm curious to see just how much I can influence a difference by doing bad things. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77908 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
thank you for clarifying my request Felix! Keep up the excellent work, I'll probably end up migrating the data to an NFS share with ZFS and export it from there :-). cheers! t0mg -- t0mg t0mg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37834 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540545 Wrote: As you can see I am a junior member and need some time to learn how to open a bug. Please let us know when\if you enter this bug, we will vote for it. Also happens on my Benchmark DAC-1 connected via digital coax; actually the red error light briefly lights up when skipping to the next 24/96 track, indicating loss of lock - no popping though. -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
t0mg;540605 Wrote: Hi All, I've searched both the forums and the wiki regarding the supported file-systems for external media attached through the Touch's USB interface, but couldn't find a detailed list. Do any of the devs know specifically what file-systems does the touch support? Does it support XFS file-system? I keep all my music on an external hard disk formatted with XFS for performance reasons (I've been burnt with EXT3/4)and if the touch doesn't support XFS for external media it's a show stopper for me. I look forward to your answers! t0mg I'm curious. Are you really going to stop your show because of your drive format? External drives are pretty cheap these days. Would you consider a mirror of your music on another drive that is one of the supported file systems? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
What formats are your backups in? :) -- Grahame Grahame's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + SB3 in the same room?
maggior;540609 Wrote: Can you change the Touch to use the JVC codes, thus essentially disabling it? That would accomplish the same thing. No, it doesn't support JVC codes -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77953 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
I have a Cambridge DacMagic and always get a brief gap between FLAC and WAV files at 24/88.1 and 24/96 when one track ends and the next begins. This is separate from the stuttering issue which appears to be CPU related and is discussed in another thread (I get this brief dropout for all combinations of FLAC/WAV and wired/wireless connectivity for 44.1 kHz files). I do not see the light change on my DAC when it segues from the end of one track to the beginning of the next (and I get the brief gap); however, when I use the key to jump ahead to the next track, I do see the light jump to 44.1 on the DAC briefly. I will sign on to the bugreport if it's useful to folks. Hopefully this one can be fixed easily, it is quite a bummer to not have gapless with hirez. -- Leigh Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
ziggyb63;540627 Wrote: Please let us know when\if you enter this bug, we will vote for it. Also happens on my Benchmark DAC-1 connected via digital coax; actually the red error light briefly lights up when skipping to the next 24/96 track, indicating loss of lock - no popping though. I'll vote too - I've just activated a different menu on my TACT and I can see the rate dropping to either 44.1 or sometimes no lock when skipping between 24/96 files. Doesn't do this at other rates. Fortunately I don't have the DAC problem as the TACT keeps a permanent outbound lock at 24/96 regardless of what is coming in... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
pounce;540628 Wrote: I'm curious. Are you really going to stop your show because of your drive format? External drives are pretty cheap these days. Would you consider a mirror of your music on another drive that is one of the supported file systems? Hi Pounce, u have a good point with the external drives being cheap, and probably will end up doing as per your suggestion. My concern with the filesystem is that I'm a sysadmin and after 13 years of practice I've grown very dependable on the features of the XFS filesystem and recently also from Sun's ZFS (snapshots and the ability to roll-back is bliss. EXT2/3/4 and reiserfs have let me down and crying more than once, and I have a huge collection of flac's that I don't intend to loose to an fsck_of_death from a power failure. Currently I own a Boom connected to slackware server with my flac volume mounted as read-only (yes, I remount it manually in read-write mode every time I add a new rip to my collection). This has several advantages, for instance: - no power failure can corrupt my collection - using XFS command xfs_fsr it defragments and reorganize the inodes making access to massive ammounts of data very quickly, efficently and multi-threaded. This is most noticeable when I stream to my boom and also export the volume using samba for example to play on $random foobar player. - XFS was designed by SGI (Silicon Graphics) for multimedia and massive amounts of data. - there's _no_ fsck of death in XFS, it's journalling/recovery features are very good. anyway, I don't mean to bore u guys with technical details, I'm so eager to get a touch that I'll surely buy it all the same. @Grahame, my backup setup is complicated, but to answer your question: I have a cron job that tar's copies my flac volume to an NFS share on a Solaris server, there I snapshot it with another cron job weekly on a ZFS volume. (I hope I was not to nerdy, feel free to ask me for further clarifications). thanks for the swift replies guys, I value the feedback u gave me :D t0mg -- t0mg t0mg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37834 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] supported filesystems through USB interface
Perhaps overkill for files that can be replicated around without impacts... but I appreciate the geek factor. I've been able to trick the Touch to use an NFS share instead of local storage so there are interesting things you can do. Just buy one. I'm sure you will have fun with it. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77955 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
I ordered my Touch from Amazon on Thursday and it arrived on Friday and I didn't even pay for the delivery which was supposed to take 3-4 days! Naturally I was delighted -- spile spile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
ziggyb63;540627 Wrote: Please let us know when\if you enter this bug, we will vote for it. Also happens on my Benchmark DAC-1 connected via digital coax; actually the red error light briefly lights up when skipping to the next 24/96 track, indicating loss of lock - no popping though. OK, hope this is correct: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146 If not, I am quite sure I will get a message :-) -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540658 Wrote: OK, hope this is correct: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146 If not, I am quite sure I will get a message :-) Voted and added my 2C! -- ziggyb63 ziggyb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
paalj;540658 Wrote: OK, hope this is correct: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146 If not, I am quite sure I will get a message :-) Thanks Paalj - voted and expanded -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
Does SC even consider the rate of the next song to play? What if you were running random or shuffle with a mix of rates? How do we expect the unit to handle going from 96/24 to 44/15 and back? So is this a bug or an enhancement request? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
pounce;540670 Wrote: Does SC even consider the rate of the next song to play? What if you were running random or shuffle with a mix of rates? How do we expect the unit to handle going from 96/24 to 44/15 and back? So is this a bug or an enhancement request? It should keep the rate of the inter-track digital silence the same as the PREVIOUSLY playing track. Not the next one! That way there will be at most only one rate change, not two in quick succession as at present. The other players work this way AFAICT. It's a bug. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Installed some applet on the Touch, how to use them?
toby10;540463 Wrote: Yes, I understand. ;) But TinySC has full access to MySB and it's Apps and services. Applets (at least most of them) are stored and down loadable from MySB so as to accommodate those not running a full SBS. This way the Radio and Touch can utilize Applets without ever connecting to TinySC or SBS. By MySB, if you mean www.mysqueezebox.com, then yes, I already tried ejecting the USB and logging into mysqueezebox.com. I'm successfully logged-on as I can access my Apps (i.e. Slacker, Pandora, etc) Still No applets found if I go to Settings-Advanced-Applet Installer -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77505 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
peterw;540705 Wrote: Did you give the same advice to Nintendo when they introduced the Wii? It took their factories two years to catch up with demand. Yeah, Touches are just flying off the shelves over at Best Buy and Target. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Now that the wait is over, I would like to solicit opinions from Touch owners out there who also own a Transporter. As an ex-Transporter owner who is thinking of re-acquiring one, I am very interested to know if the Touch managed to sound as good or better than the Transporter. After all being a few years younger the processing power and chipsets may have been improved? Has anyone done a sonic comparison between the Transporter and Touch analogue out and/or digital out? I would be very interested to hear your experience. Outside of my Naim fetish, the Transporter is one of the most treasured pieces of audio equipment. I just wonder if it could be bettered by the new candidate. -- agentsmith System 1: Macbook Pro+Weiss DAC+Hi-Line+Naim 202/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC, Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express connected via TOSLINK to a Meridian Alfred Dunhill AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Search on this forum and you'll find many comparisons that have been made already over the past few months, mostly by Touch beta testers who also have TPs. Nothing wrong with soliciting more opinions (and actual test results) now that the Touch is in circulation and there's a larger pool of users. Just wanted to point out that there are plenty of comparisons you can read already. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
To repeat my other post on the subject. The Transporter has balanced analog outs. If you will be using these, the TP is the obvious choice. Now that that is out of the way on to the RCA analog outs. Both in measured and for my taste (IE my listening) the Transporter still has an edge here. Is it worth $1500 for the TP, that is very hard to say. For me it would depend on the rest of ones equipment. If one is going to be feeding a decent DAC, I say buy the Touch and use it as a digital transport. Again from what I measured and my listen tastes the TP is still better then the Touch even feeding a DAC, but one really has to have great equipment to get ones $1500 out of using the TP as a digital transport only. So for me it is not and will not just be a simple straight answer except when one needs Balanced Analog outs. In all other cases it depends on ones other components and how much one really has to spend on a digital transport. So as just a transport, in most cases just buy a Touch. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch showing error whith Flickr or Facebook pictures.
Same issue here but I am in Hong Kong so it is not just a European problem -- askpoon askpoon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37843 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Vs Transporter as a transport
Thanks for the insights. Whatever client I decide to acquire is going to be connected to my newfangled Naim DAC. If there are substantial differences between the transporter and the Touch I will opt for the X-porter since, along with the Naim Nait 2, I consider it to be one of the gems in audio that I have great affection about. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
It's on Amazon but Amazon doesn't ship to Singapore. Anywhere else? Or do I have to wait until one of the little IT shops here get convinced to bring it in? -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch availablity
Which is faster in terms of delivery to a US address at the moment? Logitech US website or Amazon? -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77780 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] balance?
May I add another use case for your consideration. I have a set of CDs that consist of contra dance music played more slowly and simply than normal so that musicians that play by ear and are not very proficient can learn the tunes. The tunes have been recorded with the instruments carrying the tune on one channel and the accompanying instruments on the other channel. Once you think that you are capable of playing with a group, you turn off the volume on which ever channel you are playing and you supply the missing music, providing an opportunity to experience ensemble playing without terminal embarrassment. (Example: if I live long enough, I may finally learn one of the tune on my button accordion. Then I can turn off the fiddle channel and play while the guitar accompanies me on the other channel.) It would be handy to be able to do that without having to save the two channels to separate files. I do understand that this will not be a priority for the Logitechs. It is just that with folks working on the balance issues, I thought they might like to know about this case. As far as I am concerned there is no rush. My accordion playing is not even up to the slow uncomplicated level, but it would be a public service to implement a function that would divert me from ever taking it out in public. -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
