Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
zoqi;604065 Wrote: Thanks for the replies. The noise is still there even if its 100% volume or 0%. My plan is to get an amp soon and some decent speakers, just wanted to confirm if the headphone jack was of rather poor quality. But a temporary solution of a Y plug for my Sennheisers won't work? 3.5mm split to RCA Male, then use the RCA outputs on the Touch. The RCAs don't have enough current to drive headphones direct. You either plug the headphones into the headphone jack or use an external headphone amp. (it won't damage anything to use an adapter on the RCA jacks, it just won't work very well) The headphone amp built in to the Touch is certainly not the best money can buy, but it is pretty good. The noise you are hearing is just a side effect of being on the same board with computers and such. It takes a huge amount of design effort to keep ALL the noise generated by a computer out of the headphone amp. The power supply feeding the DAC chip is significantly better than the one feeding the headphone amp so its definitely possible that the RCA outputs could have lower noise than the headphone out. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
After some evenings listening to a couple of my favorite albums, I am still unable to grasp the exact effect of the mods and therefor my prefered mode (on or off). The main observation in my setup is that the mods seems to smooths the overall sound balance by removing some bite and midband presence. This results in a more relaxed overall presentation where for example the vocals seem a little un-highlighted than before. On Let's Do It from Ella and Louis Again this becomes very apparent when Louis' voice looses some 'bite' and gets more even. However, at the same time I'm wondering if this all comes at the expense of low level detail resolution. Will do some more comparing soon with a friend. But most of all, I thank Klaus for the opportunity to experiment with the Touch in a way that's easy to apply and revert. -- MrRalph Meridian 506.24, Squeezebox Touch, Technics SL-1210 M5G KAB + Phonoclone, DIY amplifiers, Linkwitz Orions+ incl Thors, Sennheiser HD650 + PPAv2 headphone amp MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Clock display bug
Do you have an external server or are you using a USB drive connected to the Touch? One problem is that the Touch does not have a clock that stays alive through a power disconnection. Every time it boots up from plugging in the power it has a garbage time. The firmware notices this situation and won't display the clock. The Touch has to connect to an external server of some sort to set its time. This can either be an SBS running on a computer on your network or it can be mysqueezebox.com. TinySBS on the Touch is not sufficient since that would have to use the same (garbage time) clock on the Touch. If you have an external SBS its supposed to try and make a connection on boot up, which should get the time. If you have an external SBS are you using wake on LAN with it? If so the server may not be up and running yet when the Touch trys to go get the time. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84939 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
Just tried another SB touch and a SB3 to check if they had the same buzzing background noise coming from the headphone jack. I can confirm they all have it, instantly from powerup even in a room with minimal electrical interference. Haven't been able to test the SB radio and Boom, but I think they have a better quality headphone amp. -- zoqi zoqi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
zoqi;604077 Wrote: Haven't been able to test the SB radio and Boom, but I think they have a better quality headphone amp. I don't think so. I use Sennheinser HD-600. After switching from SB Radio headphone out, to SB Touch headphone out, I experience less listening fatigue. But I know these cans require a proper amp, and I have actually bought a second-hand battery driven Grado RA-1, which currently sits in a friend's apartment waiting for me to come visiting and pick it up. Without a proper 'headphone amp' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphone_amplifier), you shouldn't expect too much, especially when you're using relatively power-hungry headphones like HD-595. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Mnyb;604062 Wrote: Can be another thing entirerly. Is it not simply to keep the volume at 100% all the time ? rg uses the squeezebox volume to achieve it's thing, meaning that even if you have the squeezebox volume at 100% it is not really 100% if you have replaygain on and files with rg tags, it's more like 85-90% ish ? that could be wrong but typically rg drops the volume -10dB . Thanks for the reply, but does the same apply when you one is decoding from FLAC to PCM on an external server, and streaming PCM to the Touch? In that particular setting (ie, not the standard case of decoding FLAC on the Touch) I would think that any RG adjustment would be applied at the server, thus leaving the Touch's volume at whatever its nominal setting is. But of course I could be wrong. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Phil Leigh;604111 Wrote: RG is ALWAYS applied in the player, not at the server - that is why it is a player setting and how you can have synced devices playing the same stream, with one applying RG and one not... :-) oh...right. When you put it that way it's even obvious to someone like me. Thanks Mnyb and Phil. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
aubuti;604113 Wrote: oh...right. When you put it that way it's even obvious to someone like me. Thanks Mnyb and Phil. Sorry - didn't mean to appear sarcastic! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists
Clive. Different setup - I am just using a USB HD plugged directly into the Touch. No server running on my PC, just the inbuilt server in the Touch. -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84763 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
You say that now, but I know how you're always rampaging about these forums attacking people left and right, assailing people with all of your elitist facts :-) -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using the sharing function of the squeezebox touch
The settings you've applied are correct. (Replicates my setup) Try changing the default username and password. -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84935 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists
Clive also benefit from running server and winamp on the same machine, this gives both programs the exact same file path :) no need to edit the files and replace paths, also the same win os no need to replace back-slash with front-slash. I do it in a similar way but have mounted my external library to my desktop in such a way that I have the same file path. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84763 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Percival Sweetwater;603987 Wrote: Hi, I am thinking that if the album art (if present) would load first and complete before filling the music buffer, then this would not happen. I am not sure where the buffer for album art is, or how to acheive this. I'm running the same setup as you do, with the only difference that all my FLACS are at compression level 0. Therefore I can tell you that loading the album art first would not help. I don't save or display any album art (if it's includes I even delete it), but I have the same stuttering problem. The only thing that helped in my case was switching to MySQL instead of using SQlite. With MySQL there was no stuttering/rebuffering at all. But it has a downside. MySQL is not reliable when scanning the music-folder and it is much slower than SQlite. Therefore I returned to SQlite and live with the stuttering at the beginning of the first track. This shows that the stuttering is most probably not a buffer-problem, but rather a database handling problem. If MySQL were as reliable and fast as SQlite I'd use it because it's nice to play songs without rebuffering, but the MySQL seems to be bad in combination with the Touch. -- Soundman Soundman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Another way to put is that RG tags are there so you not have to alter the sound of the file. This then implies that the RG tag is an order to the playback system to play at this level , the whole thing hinges around some kind of nominal level(s) . So you can turn it on and of as needed if you have such tags, example if you have a party and want background music just turn on the gain adjustments for the acassion, and then turn them off when it's time for a hifi OCD session ;) That said it does exist some very destructive ways to do volume normalisation by actually alter the files, I think it is somewhat popular for mp3 and to use with players that does not have RG making all your files play at the same level by compressing them yourself :-/ this is bad. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Read this this is connected to all these bugs: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84931 the database optimisations is not properly done for all off us. Id a manual *analyse;* of my SQlite dB yesterday is shuffled around a 2900 track playlist without stutter or problems -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Mnyb;604131 Wrote: This then implies that the RG tag is an order to the playback system to play at this level , snip Yes, of course, but that was not the question. What I wanted to know is _where_ this is implemented -- on the server or on the player -- particularly for server side decoding. This is now clear to me. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem connecting LaCie HDD to Touch
In the manual, Logitech recommends to connect a bus powered HDD behind a powered USB hub if problems arise ... -- hpk hpk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36144 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84807 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] display of saved playlists
Is there a way to display the list of songs differently, i.e. show album name along with the track names? -- dbinder101 dbinder101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84952 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Mnyb;604133 Wrote: Id a manual *analyse;* of my SQlite dB yesterday is shuffled around a 2900 track playlist without stutter or problems When playing playlists there are no problems with SQlite except for the very first track it plays. The first track always rebuffers in my case with SQlite, which was not the case with MySQL. After that it's fine. -- Soundman Soundman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
I never get this rebuffering problem, even at 24/96 (sbs 7.6+sqlite / xp) Have you set the audio startup delay? - mine is set to 1 second... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Phil Leigh;604171 Wrote: I never get this rebuffering problem, even at 24/96 (sbs 7.6+sqlite / xp) Have you set the audio startup delay? - mine is set to 1 second... Thanks, Phil. No, my startup delay was set to 0. As I understood it this concerns mp3 decoding. But now I set it to 1 like you and there's no more rebuffering even at 24/96. Some minutes ago I installed 7.6.0 - r31795. Therefore I don't know if this update fixed the problem or if it was the audio startup delay. Anyhow the problem is solved and I'm very happy about it. Thanks again! -- Soundman Soundman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
Do you have a light dimmer in the room (or any nearby room)? They pretty much all will cause enough EMI to cause a slight buzzing noise in your audio setup. Terry -- TerryS TerryS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Phil Leigh;604171 Wrote: I never get this rebuffering problem, even at 24/96 (sbs 7.6+sqlite / xp) Have you set the audio startup delay? - mine is set to 1 second... Phil: How does one set the audio startup delay? Thanks. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
guidof;604191 Wrote: Phil: How does one set the audio startup delay? Thanks. Guido F. Guido - see below: Phil +---+ |Filename: CropperCapture[1].jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11198| +---+ -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Phil Leigh;604197 Wrote: Guido - see below: Phil Phil: Many thanks for your quick reply. I can't believe I had missed this particular pull-down menu! Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Issue Accessing USB Drive
I have an external drive attached to my Touch with a bunch of flacs on it. From the main menu I have selected USB Device and then Squeezebox Server. It says discovering file:complete. How do I navigate to the music? I assume I can use the Touch this way without being connected to my actual server? -- dminches Modwright Platinum Signature Truth modified Transporter Modwright SWL 9.0 SE Aragon 8008BB Vandersteen 3A Sigs w/ Vandersteen WQ (2 channel system) dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
guidof;604202 Wrote: Phil: Many thanks for your quick reply. I can't believe I had missed this particular pull-down menu! Guido F. Actually, the reason I missed it seems to be that it is different from yours: How is this possible? Guido F. +---+ |Filename: SBS Audio.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11199| +---+ -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Can it be different server version i don't remember what 7.5 looked like ? there is a whole lot off settings in this application :P -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
guidof;604206 Wrote: Actually, the reason I missed it seems to be that it is different from yours: How is this possible? Guido F. Ah - yes... I'm running 7.6... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
There are no light dimmers in our house. I checked a few squeezeboxes today with two different UE700s and Apple earplugs on 3 different touches and 1 SBv3 and they all have the same feint buzz sound on the headphone jack. Its been checked on three different locations. All of them having little to non electrical devices. -- zoqi zoqi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
Phil Leigh;604213 Wrote: Ah - yes... I'm running 7.6... OK, thanks. I guess I'll have to download 7.6 -- eventually. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Issue Accessing USB Drive
Thanks. That worked but first it had to tell me that it couldn't find a wireless or wired network as opposed to giving me the option of selecting the USB input. Is that how it should work? I would think the options would be wired network, wireless network and USB. -- dminches Modwright Platinum Signature Truth modified Transporter Modwright LS-100 Modwright KWA-150 Vandersteen 3A Sigs w/ Vandersteen WQ (2 channel system) dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts
I've been wondering about this soundcheck's Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 Less is better so they say, that's why we have direct in. But I'm a confirmed Audessey and ProLogic II Guy. Steps 1,2 and 3 are easy enough and I'm already configured that way. I don't plan or want to mess with installing scripts and files. But I'm curious about having the server decode vs. the SB touch. Whats the consensus. Once again thanks to everyone for all the help. I've got about 500 CDs ripped and having a grand old time with my new toys. -- tmauceri tmauceri's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41450 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts
tmauceri;604249 Wrote: I've been wondering about this soundcheck's Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 Less is better so they say, that's why we have direct in. But I'm a confirmed Audessey and ProLogic II Guy. Steps 1,2 and 3 are easy enough and I'm already configured that way. I don't plan or want to mess with installing scripts and files. But I'm curious about having the server decode vs. the SB touch. Whats the consensus. Once again thanks to everyone for all the help. I've got about 500 CDs ripped and having a grand old time with my new toys. I can't speak to the consensus, but plenty of smart people on this forum that know a lot more than me don't think that decoding on the server side vs Touch matters to the ultimate sound quality. Try it both ways and see what you think. It's just a couple of settings in SbS Settings File Types. But beware of the placebo effectif you can, get someone else to make the changes and listen a bit both ways so you are doing a blind test. For me, there is absolutely no difference in either my TOUCH or my TRANSPORTER. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Electric noise
zoqi;604219 Wrote: My conclusion is that the 3.5mm jack on the Touch and SB3 could use some improvement. They're not intended to be audiophile quality. If they had been, these units would have cost twice as much as they do, and weighed five times as much as they do. Driving a set of cans properly is not trivial. It requires specialized equipment. That's what headphone amps are for. And a Squeezebox is not a headphone amp. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84943 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What am I missing?
I have my music on NAS device, most of it managed by itunes in z:/music/itunes/music but I also have music in z:/music/hdtracks I have cleaned everything, done rebuild, etc. and most of my music is there but some of it isn't. I can go in the Squeezebox into the music directory to the itune directory, it shows me the artist folder, select that and I see the album folder, then nothing. I haven't figured out any specific pattern to the stuff that is in there vs. the stuff that isn'twell I haven't looked enough into this but I think it is the AAC files ie .m4p files that don't show the .m4a files do. So in some directories I have multiple albums from the artist some of them show, some don't and in those cases that seems to be the difference. tom -- metamurph metamurph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84919 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What am I missing?
aren't m4p files protected itunes files with DRM? These don't show up in SqueezeBoxServer and can't be played. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84919 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts
tmauceri;604249 Wrote: But I'm curious about having the server decode vs. the SB touch. Whats the consensus. Once again thanks to everyone for all the help. I've got about 500 CDs ripped and having a grand old time with my new toys. I'm not sure about consensus either. However, *my subjective impression* is that decoding on the server yields marginally clearer sound. As has been pointed out, it's easy to try. No SW mod necessary! But don't just listen repeatedly to the same brief sound clip. Try it either way for a couple of days at the time. (I know, it's not quite A/B, but if you listen repeatedly to the same brief clip, you will very likely find no difference). However, the full benefit of soundcheck's mods is only likely to be had when most of the SW mods are implemented. I followed pretty much his suggestions, except that I'm still on wireless and, *again subjectively*, am very satisfied with the result. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts
guidof;604277 Wrote: (I know, it's not quite A/B, but if you listen repeatedly to the same brief clip, you will very likely find no difference). I'm not saying you believe this, but just for others' info, a blind A/B comparison does NOT have to be listening to short snips of music over a short time. One can listen for A for days and then B for days (or weeks!). The key of course is that the listener doesn't know which is A and which is B. Just take some notes about your listening experiences. Then AFTER THE FACT, compare those notes/times/days with the information about the setup on those days/times. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Newbie with Questions for the Experts
garym;604278 Wrote: I'm not saying you believe this, but just for others' info, a blind A/B comparison does NOT have to be listening to short snips of music over a short time. Quite true! I just think that, to the extent that there are differences to be perceived, they are more likely to become apparent when listening to a variety of recordings over extended periods. Sometimes judgments are formed based solely on repeated listening to brief musical segments, whether blind or not. Yet, this is not how we ordinarily listen to music. While this is not necessarily invalid when the differences are gross, it seems to me questionable when the differences are of the kind of musical refinement that soundcheck's mods attempt to accomplish. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital out to Cambridge Azur 840C DAC) *Preamps*: Conrad Johnson Motif (Phono); Adcom GFP-750 (Line) *Amps*: Music Reference RM-200 Mk II (Main); Little Tube Mk III (Phones) *Subwoofer Equalizer*: DSpeaker Antimode 8033 *Speakers*: Martin Logan SL3s; REL T1 Subwoofer *Headphones*: AKG K701 guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83244 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
My startup delay is set to 2 and it was still rebuffering. Today I also updated to 7.6.0 - r31795 and lo and behold no rebuffering at all! I tried to break it but it stood firm. When it loads album art, the music is not interrupted at all. Brilliant, man! -- Percival Sweetwater Percival Sweetwater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)
Phil Leigh;602126 Wrote: Just to reiterate: regardless of what you put into to the Touch (or where the volume control is set), what comes out is a 24-bit bitstream. However, if the s/pdif (channel status information bit(s)) are not set correctly, then downstream devices might REPORT non-24-bit streams... I hope this is what is going on with my setup, and that you excuse a couple of 'noobie' questions. iMac - Airport Extreme (wireless) - Touch - optical out - Cambridge 840C The 840C indicates =20/96 which seems strange, when the song being played is 16/44.1 AIFF or 24/96 FLAC (which are all I have tried so far, just got the Touch yesterday). Sounds like it should indicate 24/96 all the time? The 840C indicates =24/96 when toslinked up to the iMac directly ... Wish I could get rid of the pesky = ... ! Is there something I need to set differently than 'default' in the advanced settings? I do have numerous posts, etc. saved by you guys, but it will take me hours to peruse thru them! THANKS for comments, tips, etc.! :^) - Rick. -- Rick58 Rick58's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84280 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Issue Accessing USB Drive
dminches;604237 Wrote: Thanks. That worked but first it had to tell me that it couldn't find a wireless or wired network as opposed to giving me the option of selecting the USB input. Is that how it should work? I would think the options would be wired network, wireless network and USB. On the SB Touch there are three logical devices, a controller, a player and a server. The server is the only one that sees files (wherever they are) the player just talks to a server, it never sees files directly, and the controller part just talks to servers as well. So the player part can never look at the USB port, all it can do is be pointed at a server. If you have a server running on a separate computer you can switch the Touch between the builtin server, the external server and mysqueezebox.com. Even if you connect the player to the builtin server it will still TRY and make a connection to a network (wired or wireless) so that you have the option of connecting to mysqueezebox.com for network streams. Its not required for use of the builtin server but it at least try's to make the connection so its up and running if you want to use it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84958 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using the sharing function of the squeezebox touch
thunder3dan;603959 Wrote: Hello, I recently hooked up a usb drive to the my touch and every is working fine, but I can't seem to get the sharing function to work. I've turned on sharing and left the username and password as the defaults. On my windows 7 desktop it can see the squeezeboxtouch under my networks, but when I try to connect it won't accept the username and password. It just says unknown username or bad password. Any ideas? Thanks! The touch only works with the workgroup name WORKGROUP. If you have changed the workgroup name on your computer it won't be able to connect via the normal windows networking. There IS a way to do it, even if the workgroup is different: first get the IP address of the Touch (settings-advanced-diagnostics, scroll down to the IP Adressess field). Then open My Computer and make sure you have an address bar. If not bring one up (view-toolbars-address). Type the following into the address bar: \\IPaddress For me that is: \\192.168.1.103 Note those are two back slashes NOT forward slashes. This should then bring up a box asking for the username and password. The default is root and 1234. This should then pop up the shared directories. I hope that works. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84935 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem with buffering
latest 7.6 beta and 7.5.3 beta has a fix where it detects a bad database and optimizes it . This was the outcome of the one of the bugs lately where it was discovered thats such optimizing was not always done after a scan (which is necessary for performance). Also it is fixed to make sure that database optimizing ( MySQL optimize or SQlite analyze) always takes place after a scan. This makes dB queries like 10 to 100 times faster if your dB was in a really bad shape :-/ like mine was after 5-6 months without this dB maintenance. Also 7.6 uses SQlite for database and 7.5.x uses MySQL SQlite is said to be faster on smaller ( slower) computers, great for low power servers . MySQL is regarded as better by some people that that knows such stuff (not me, I know 0 about databases) but in Squeezebox context if you followed the the forum the latest years. MySQl has the ability to provoke many AV softwares and and other security software to do things they should not. This is not Logitechs or MySQL fault that many AV softwares thinks that one of the worlds most used dB application is a virus ? But it always end up at Logitechs helpdesk as failed scans, so SQlite it is for 7.6 . But to pass this database bug upgrading to latest 7.5.3 can be enough. 7.6 can be better for some but as it is the most unstable beta you can enjoy all the latest functions but also new bugs. And it can seize to function completely. 7.6 seems to be most buggy on windows lately. 7.6 is surprisingly stable on my small linux server ? And upgrades is done often . It's no point staying on an old 7.6 somewhere so you have to upgrade quit often. And you will realize that there are often Touch Controller and radio upgrades pushed out if you are running 7.6 several times every week. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84612 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Odd issue with my Touch (might be my DAC)
Rick58;604292 Wrote: I hope this is what is going on with my setup, and that you excuse a couple of 'noobie' questions. iMac - Airport Extreme (wireless) - Touch - optical out - Cambridge 840C The 840C indicates =20 which seems strange, when the song being played is 16/44.1 AIFF or 24/96 FLAC (which are all I have tried so far, just got the Touch yesterday). I think it does say /44.1 and /96, respectively, when playing these files. Sounds like it should indicate 24/96 all the time? The 840C indicates =24/96 when toslinked up to the iMac directly ... Wish I could get rid of the pesky = ... ! Is there something I need to set differently than 'default' in the advanced settings? I do have numerous posts, etc. saved by you guys, but it will take me hours to peruse thru them! THANKS for comments, tips, etc.! :^) - Rick. [ EDIT: I guess this http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16641 answers the question ??? Thanks Mnyb et al! Altho I would much rather it show =24/96 ... that is still a mystery to me. ] See griffins response in post 17 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=602152postcount=17 It is not that simple, but it explains your 20bit status, and it should not report 24/96 all the time but also 24/44.1 and 24/48 and 24/88.2 . There seems to be no real way to actually indicate bit depth with 100% accuracy and it actually does not say anything about the signal content . I was unaware of that fact exposed in Griffin's post (thanks something new learned). Then it gets clear to me why many dac and processor simply indicate sample rate and not bits I'm convinced that it actually is 24bit's we get for the reason that many people have indicated that they measured that it is soo and some experiments I've trying to get squeezeplay to output 24bit to my soundcard in ubuntu :-/ I see that the server indeed sends 24LE or what it was . Also the touch has a 24bit alsa process running all the time. But it would be nice to have the bug fixed it would not fix all cases but increase the likelihood of correct indication. And to bake our noodles further nobody will hear the difference between 20 and 24 bits the signal may be 24 bit but most DAC's and ADC's is practically 20bit due to the S/N ratio even if they are equipped with so called 24bit chips :) so is it really 24bit I'm hearing now... ;) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84280 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
