Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't connect to server.
I have noticed something a bit strange on LMS. The password box on the Account page indicates that my password is 23 digits long. In fact, my password is 8 digits long. I have checked the password in Advanced Settings and it correctly indicates the right number of digits. However, to be sure I went through the process of changing my password, but used my old 8 digit password. I then changed it on the Account page and, checked Apply, then OK, which closed LMS. When I restarted LMS the Account page still indicated a 23 digit password. Does anyone have any idea what is causing this, or whether it may be related to my IP problem? jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109112 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't connect to server.
toby10 wrote: > Yes, each server (LMS and MySB) has it's own IP. Touch does need to > connect to one of them. It cannot be connected to both simultaneously. > > > Touch connected to LMS: LMS uses MySB > Touch connected to MySB: no LMS needed Apparently the Touch is frequently getting the wrong IP addresses. Today it is not connecting to LMS. And LMS does not recognize the player. So again it is not working. I have no idea how to fix this. -------- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109112 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't connect to server.
mherger wrote: > > The Touch does receive the wireless signal and indicates it is on the > > network. However, LMS does not recognize the Touch and the Touch is > > unable to connect with the LMS server. > > Does it see LMS, but can't connect? Or does it not even see it? > > Where is your LMS living? Computer? That storage system? What OS? What > LMS version? > > And please check server.log in LMS to see whether it was complaining > about anything. > > -- > > Michael Hello Michael, At this time the Touch does see LMS but cant ping and reports that DNS failed. The computer and storage system are in my study. The OS is Windows 10 64 bit. The LMS version is 7.9.1 / r1522157629. Here are the most recent entries in the server log. [18-05-31 19:28:37.3317] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [19:28:37.3316] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /Slim/Schema.pm line 1877 [18-05-31 19:33:18.9369] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [19:33:18.9368] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /Slim/Schema.pm line 1877 [18-05-31 22:09:22.9747] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.1, 1522157629, Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [18-05-31 22:09:23.3200] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [22:09:23.3199] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /Slim/Schema.pm line 1877 [18-06-01 05:22:48.5546] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.9.1, 1522157629, Fri Mar 30 12:17:59 WEDT 2018) perl 5.014001 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread [18-06-01 05:22:48.9262] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1252) Warning: [05:22:48.9261] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for ->find and ->single at /Slim/Schema.pm line 1877 At this time (not so when I posted the question) LMS does recognize the Touch and I am able to make music selections using the Web Remote Control. So the point about the Touch not being able to ping, etc. is not really relevant since I can play the music via the Touch. But this is intermittent and unsatisfactory so I do need to try to get this sorted. Thanks for your reply. ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109112 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch can't connect to server.
Hello Everyone, I need your help getting my Squeezebox Touch to connect with the LMS via my Netgear wireless router. Here is the setup: My computer, music storage device (an OWC Mercury Elite Pro), cable modem & routers are in one room. The Touch is in another room and communicates via a wireless network. The network is comprised of the following: The router is a Netgear R6100. The following wired devices are attached: 2 connections to two Motorola routers to connect Vonage telephone lines; and 1 connection to my computer. In addition to the Touch, the following devices are on the wireless network: My old computer and two Rokus The Touch does receive the wireless signal and indicates it is on the network. However, LMS does not recognize the Touch and the Touch is unable to connect with the LMS server. I have reset the modem and router multiple times. At times the Touch and LMS connect. At other times they dont. Due to my very limited knowledge of computers and related gear I have no idea how to proceed. I will appreciate any help you are able to offer. ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109112 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
Of course. I should have thought of that. I will put my question in another thread. I apologize for my error. And one last Thank You for those who were so helpful regarding my problem. DJanGo wrote: > Hi, > > > > > > - please dont use more than one thread for the same question - please dont ask questions unrelated to the topic - please take a look in the forum to the phrase albumartistsorttag > like e.g 'this' > (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104808-Strange-Sort-Order) > > > > > cheers -------- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
My reply is below. QUOTE=mherger;895563]> As mentioned, I once again did the clean cache and rescan entire library > routine. After about 3 1/2 hours I once again got the "unexpected > termination" message. I have attached the scan and server logs from this > latest effort. Are you using LMS to serve media files (in particular movies and photos) to DLNA renderers? Your scan seems to be crashing while scanning photos/movies. If you didn't do this intentionally, then make sure you disable this in Settings/Basic in the web UI. After unchecking the Pictures box in Basic Settings I initiated a complete rescan, including the clean cache option. The scan did complete and I assume that LMS will now function. I have attached copies of the scan log and server log after the completion of the most recent scan. This is pretty strange because I am almost certain that I did not check the Pictures box until after I had encountered this problem. But if LMS is going to work I will not spend any time, or ask anyone else to spend time trying to figure out exactly what happened. I can only assume that after I did check the Pictures box that did create a problem, as Michael speculated. So many thanks to everyone who made suggestions, especially to John and Michael, who were very helpful. I do have another question, to which there is probably not a simple answer. The question is why is LMS listing albums under the last name of an album artist when I have taken care to list all albums by that album artist under his/her first name? I will give a specific example. I have 5 albums by Bud Powell. I have listed him as album artist Bud Powell in all the albums. I have listed him and the other band members as artists. There is no albumartistsort or artistsort checked in the tagging software (Mp3tag). Bud Powell is not listed under the Bs. He is listed as Bud Powell under the Ps. This happens with some other albums too. However, I am unable to see any consistency or pattern to it. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? If so I will appreciate your help. However, for now I have a LOT of work to do trying to clean up the mess in my library (to correct all the errors and warnings that appear in the logs). I had no idea I had such a mess until you guys pointed it out to me. I am going to try to do a better job of file maintanence. Many thanks for all your help. Here are the new logs 23729[ATTACH]23730[/ Michael +---+ |Filename: server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23730| +---+ -------- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
jdt7385 wrote: > Thank you for the help. I have now tried to correct the artfile problems > revealed by the scanner log. I will, once again, do a "clean cache" and > complete rescan of library and report the result. As mentioned, I once again did the clean cache and rescan entire library routine. After about 3 1/2 hours I once again got the "unexpected termination" message. I have attached the scan and server logs from this latest effort. 2371623717 Any suggestions? +---+ |Filename: server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23717| +---+ ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
Thank you for the help. I have now tried to correct the artfile problems
revealed by the scanner log. I will, once again, do a "clean cache" and
complete rescan of library and report the result.
JohnB wrote:
> The scanner.log is in a plain text file (good) but the other file
> ("Server Log & Scanner Log (1).doc") is still in a Word file - can you
> send it as a text file (zipped).
>
> The scanner.log file still stops on the same image file: "James Brown -
> Love Power Peace (label_B).jpg" which it reports as "Invalid or corrupt
> image file". It will probably continue to stop there until the problem
> file is dealt with. So why don't you just delete the damned thing?
> [Edit] Or at least move it somewhere that isn't scanned by LMS.
>
> There are also problems with the artwork files in: Freddy King\Gives you
> a Bonanza of Instrumentals (1965) (Sundazed 180g mono) (2496-aksman) -
> the scanner seems to dislike their names, though that doesn't stop the
> scan. It is better to deal with the problems though.
>
> Forgive me for saying so, but the first thing I would do is to correct
> the problems that you already know about from the scanner log. Then do a
> full rescan and once again check the scanner log, etc, etc and report
> back when all the errors you find are dealt with.
>
> That's just my opinion, for what it's worth.
>
> Incidentally, you can find the location of the actual log files towards
> the bottom of LMS/Settings/Information. In your case it is probably
> C:\ProgramDataSqueezebox\logs\
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
mherger wrote: > > John, thank you very much for taking the time to review the logs and > > offer your comments. I have deleted a couple of the corrupt files. > > The logs are attached. Please let me know if I have done this correctly > and if there is anything else I can do to be helpful. Thanks. > > I think only the last one is corrupted, the others have odd file names > LMS fails to read. And it's that last one, where the scan stops. > > I'd suggest you run a full Wipe & Rescan. Then provide the server.log > again. > > > However, I am unable to determine why the scanner cannot access the > > folder in which the other art files listed in the scan log are > located. > > It does access it. It's only during the artwork reading pass that it > fails. > > So now the rescan has completed (after the full rescan hung on an art > file in drive 2). The result was "Media scan terminated unexpectedly". > The logs are attached.2371323714 > -- > Let me know if the logs are correctly attached and if there is anything > else I can do to be helpful. > Michael Logs attached. +---+ |Filename: Server Log & Scanner Log.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23714| +-------+ jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
mherger wrote: > > John, thank you very much for taking the time to review the logs and > > offer your comments. I have deleted a couple of the corrupt files. > > I think only the last one is corrupted, the others have odd file names > LMS fails to read. And it's that last one, where the scan stops. > > I'd suggest you run a full Wipe & Rescan. Then provide the server.log > again. > > > However, I am unable to determine why the scanner cannot access the > > folder in which the other art files listed in the scan log are > located. > > It does access it. It's only during the artwork reading pass that it > fails. > > > -- > > Michael I did initiate a "Clean Cache Folder" and rescan entire library rescan. It appeared to be running well over all 4 drives, then scanning the art in a separate scan. Then, after over 3 hours, it hung up on one art object in a folder in drive #2. It stayed there for over an hour, at which point I terminated the scan. It is now rescanning under a normal "look for new and changed media folders" procedure. Unfortunately, I did not copy the logs before starting this new scan...a beginner's mistake on my part. I will see what result the ongoing scan presents and report that. Man, this is really frustrating. I just cannot think how the addition of one drive would cause the system to malfunction. Thanks for your time and efforts. They are much appreciated. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
JohnB wrote: > No doubt Michael will reply when he has had time to look at the logs - > in the meantime a couple of things: > > There are quite a few errors in the scanner.log associated with artwork > which need to be sorted out. Either visually scan the scanner.log or > open it in Notepad or Wordpad and search for "ERROR". > > The scanner.log seems to only show scanning of two of the four HDDs in > your NAS: H:\ and I:\ - it then just stops. Was this the whole of the > scanner.log file? > > By the way, in Windows 7 64bit the log files are in > C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Logs\ John, thank you very much for taking the time to review the logs and offer your comments. I have deleted a couple of the corrupt files. However, I am unable to determine why the scanner cannot access the folder in which the other art files listed in the scan log are located. This is very odd because I am also certain that the corrupt files were corrupt prior to the addition of the 4th drive and did not prevent the successful completion of the scans. All very strange. All I did was add the fourth drive. Then, of course, I added it to the library and rescanned. In any event thank you for your input. Please advise if you have any other thoughts. ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
jdt7385 wrote: > 2369723698 I have finally managed to send the files in zip mode. Please let me know if those are the correct files and format. ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
mherger wrote: > > Michael, I hope this word doc is the right way to do this. If not let > me > > know. Thanks. > > doc always always is the wrong format :-). In 7.9 there's a link to get > > a zipped copy of the files. Use that one. Or take the path and grab the > > copy from that folder. I don't like to open doc files of unknown > source... > > If the files are too big, then use my inbox: > > https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a > > -- > > Michael 2369723698 +---+ |Filename: server.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23698| +---+ ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
mherger wrote: > > Michael, I hope this word doc is the right way to do this. If not let > me > > know. Thanks. > > doc always always is the wrong format :-). In 7.9 there's a link to get > > a zipped copy of the files. Use that one. Or take the path and grab the > > copy from that folder. I don't like to open doc files of unknown > source... > > If the files are too big, then use my inbox: > > [url]2369523696 > > -- 2369523696 > > Does this work? > > Michael New attachments of scan log and server log. +---+ |Filename: scanner.log | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23696| +---+ -------- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
mherger wrote: > > scan terminated unexpectedly. This has been going on for 3 days. Is > > there another version that is better suited to my setup? Does anyone > > have any suggestions as to how I can fix this problem? I will > appreciate > > any help you are able to provide. > > Please upload your server.log and scanner.log files. They can be found > in Settings/Information. > > -- > > Michael Server Log & Scanner Log.doc (15.8 KB) Michael, I hope this word doc is the right way to do this. If not let me know. Thanks. +---+ |Filename: Server Log & Scanner Log.doc | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23694| +---+ ---- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
sherington wrote: > Is this not likely to be an issue with your OWC Mercury Elite Pro Qx2?? > > How have you set it up?? Raid?? > > Andrew Hello Andrew, I have not encountered any problem in the past with the OWC. I am not running Raid, only standalone drive setup. Media server does recognize all 4 drives and appears to scan them. It just will not complete the scan process. -------- jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Server scan terminates unexpectedly after long loop.
I have encountered the following problem under the following circumstances: OS: Windows 7 64 bit Home edition Player: Squeezebox Touch run wirelessly via Netgear router Hard drives are housed in OWC Mercury Elite Pro Qx2 Logitech Media Server version 7.9.1 The server was running just fine until I added a fourth drive. After doing so I cannot get it to complete a scan. It begins the scan and all appears to be working but then, after it seemingly has completed the scan of all 4 drives it begins again to scan drive 1. This then continues for a very long time, followed by a message saying that the scan terminated unexpectedly. This has been going on for 3 days. Is there another version that is better suited to my setup? Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can fix this problem? I will appreciate any help you are able to provide. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108025 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade to 7.7.5?
OK, thanks for your help. Philippe, thanks to you also...and my apology for misspelling your name. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103954 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade to 7.7.5?
I have been having some problems with Media Server (V. 7.7.3) for some time. It won't recognize my favorites (radio stations, etc.) and sometimes will not connect with Squeezebox even though the wireless connection are good. I notice that the website has version 7.7.5 and I am inclined to download and install it. The link to the instructions for upgrading is bad so unavailable. Should I just uninstall 7.7.3 and start over? I realize that all my settings will be lost but, if I recall correctly, the setup options are pretty limited and it doesn't take long to select them. Since my playlists don't work anyway I guess they are no great loss. I am a novice so any advice will be appreciated. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103954 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade to 7.7.5?
Hello Phillipe, Do you mean that I should not uninstall 7.7.3 but just install 7.7.5 over it and Logitech will take care of everything? jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103954 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions on Setting Up Logitech Media Server preferences
SlimChances wrote: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Logitech_Media_Server might help. Did you have trouble installing the software, assigning the music and playlist library, signing up for MySqueezebox.com. What exactly was the problem. I run my LMS on Linux but there are many Windoze users that could help you if you are a little more specific. Preference generally can be set in the web UI but any applets you want to add are added directly to the player Thanks for the reply. I am running Windows 7. The Touch is connected via wireless network. It communicates with the network but is not able to see LMS and vice versa. Part of the problem is that I am unable to get Windows to accept my Lan setting to Automatic. It keeps changing the setting back to Proxy Server. LMS then tells me in this configuration connnectivity to mysqueezebox.com on port 3483 cannot be tested. Accordingly the box for squeezebox.com on the Diagnostics page of LMS reflects that both Port 3483 (slimproto) and Port 9000 (HTTP) failed. At one time Windows did allow the Lan setting to auto to remain and both ports reflected OK. But no more. The other known issue (which I am about to try to address with another change of password) is that the LMS advanced server setting for mysqueezebox.com will not save my password. I type it in but when I hit apply it is erased. Under Startup Options in the Status section of LMS the username and password boxes are blank. I assume that that is because I am unable to input my password in the advanced server setting. Do you think that is the case. I cannor find any other way to input my username and password. Obviously I am a novice at this. It is frustrating because at one time the system worked. I don't know what happened to cause it to cease working but I am now tryiing to start over and get everything right. I will appreciate any help you can give me. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102257 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Instructions on Setting Up Logitech Media Server preferences
I have had a lot of problems with getting Logitech Media Server and Squeezebox Touch to work properly. I am now in the process of reinstalling Logitech Media Server on my Windows 7 64 bit machine. Is there a source providing step by step instructions on how to set up all the preferences? It would certainly be helpful. I have not found anything on the Logitech site that is at all helpful. I will appreciate any help you can provide. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102257 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
krochat wrote: I can help debug further, but need the complete configuration of your network - a) what's plugged into what, including manufacturer and model number b) what's connected wirelessly, including manufacturer and model number c) If possible, the IP and Gateway (or DNS) addresses of each connected piece. You can send me a private message if you don't want to share with the world. Kim Kim, my connections are as follows: The connections are: 1. Cox Cable into Motorola SB5120 modem. 2. Ethernet cable from cable model into Linksys Wireless G router, Model WRT54G. 3. Ethernet cables from Linksys router into: a. Desktop computer; and b. Two Motorola Model VT2442 telephone adapters/routers to connect three telephone lines (VOIP). The reason there are two telephone adapters/routers is because each one will only service two telephone lines. I have three lines (one dedicated fax line) so my setup requires 2 adapters/routers. As suggested by Toby perhaps I should contact Vonage and take up their time rather than taking your time with this. If you have any quick suggestions I will be grateful for them but please do not take a lot of time with this. You have already been a tremendous help, for which I am grateful. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
jimbobvfr400 wrote: I'm guessing the Vonage router also has DHCP enabled, it may be that disabling DHCP on the Vonage will break something else but should certainly fix this issue. I'm not at all familiar with the Vonage so no idea what it does or how it works. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Jimbob, that sounds reasonable. Yes, I am afraid to tinker with the Vonage routers because my internet service and telephone service depends on them. They service my Vonage VOIP type internet-based telephone service. Thanks for your input. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
toby10 wrote: Call Vonage support. Ask them how/why this is happening and how to prevent it from happening again. ;) Their equipment, their service, their problem. Toby, I think you are right. I have indicated to my reply to Kim that it is appropriate for me to take Vonage's time rather than his trying to figure this out. I have asked that he not spend a lot more time on this. Thanks for your input. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
jimbobvfr400 wrote: The result is the same but yes LMS down samples as necessary (using SOX I believe) Additionally it might be worth mentioning if you have any players synced then the stream will be down sampled to the lowest common denominator of the sync group, so if your touch is synced to an SB3 which supports a Max sample rate of 48 then the touch will also get 48. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 I don't have any other players but that is interesting to know. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
Stratmangler wrote: The Touch is downsampling nothing at all - it does not have the processing capability to perform such a feat. If there is any downsampling taking place then you have the Touch connected to a separate devices running LMS. It's the only way such a thing can occur. LMS is running on my computer and Touch is connected wirelessly. No other devices are being utilized. Touch is connected to my McIntosh preamp. Perhaps the downsampling is done by the preamp? jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
Mnyb wrote: The downsampling is done by LMS on your computer , by a utility called SoX that's installed with LMS . This row sampling is very good and if your dac works properly its very unlikely that you will hear any difference , 96k is good enough for human consumption :) OK, that is what Jimbob was trying to tell me, but I was not listening well enough. Yes, I doubt that I would hear the difference between 96k and 192k, although there are those who say that 192k sounds better to them. I do know that the file sizes are a lot bigger for 192k. Thanks for your input. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
garym wrote: some say they can hear differences in lossless files that were saved on different hard drives even though the resulting files are exact copies (bit perfect). There is a lot of misinformation among audiophools! And some say the earth is flat. ;-)You'll do very well with 24/96. You might take a look at this discussion: http://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html I printed the article to read later. I am very interested to read the detail but the conclusion is obvious at a glance. Frankly, due to the size of 192 k files, I don't want to have to deal with them unless there is a darn good reason to do so. I am thinking about converting the ones I have to 96k to free up some hard drive space. Thanks for your input and the link. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
krochat wrote: To disable DHCP on the VT2442 Vonage routers: 1) Download the VT2442 User Guide from http://www2.vonage.com/support/files/pdf/VT2442_UserGuide.pdf 2) For each VT2442, log into the administration interface following the instructions on page 13. For this to work you'll need to a) Disconnect your desktop ethernet from the linksys. b) Disconnect both Vonage Routers and power them down. c) Connect your desktop ethernet cable to one of the ethernet jacks numbered 1-4 on the back of one of the Vonage routers. d) Power up that Vonage Router. e) Reboot your desktop. You should be able to log into the router and do step 3 below. f) Repeat steps (c)-(e) for the second Vonage router. 3) For each Vt2442, See pages 20-21 of the User Manual for Setup-Lan Configuration to set Server and Relay Off instead of one of the other 2 DHCP settings. 4) Do not plug any ethernet cables into the Vonage router jacks 1-4 except to log in to change the VT2442 configuration - they won't work any more for normal ethernet. 5) Make sure to use the blue Internet port of the Vonage routers when connecting them to the Linksys router. Good luck, Kim PS - I had a friend who had endless problems with Vonage, found their support terrible, and finally dropped them for Ooma, which he loves. Kim, many thanks for all your help. I will do as you suggest and see if I can avoid future problems. I had no idea that Vonage was my problem. I have been very satisfied with the Vonage service. However, I may change my opinion if Vonage continues to get between me and my music. Thanks again for your tremendous help. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Hello avta, I have reset Touch to factory defaults and gone through setup process numerous times. I have also unplugged the modem and wireless router and rebooted those numberous times. However, I have not unplugged all those devices and left them unplugged for 5 minutes. At this point I am desperate so I will try that. The Media Server Control Panel Information Panel shows: Total Players Recognized: 0, so Touch is definitely not seeing Touch. It appears that for some reason the devices are not getting their IPs via the wireless router. Having said that I must confess that I don't even know which devices are supposed to do that. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Yes and yes. Your player and server are on two different networks. Guest network? Connecting to wrong router? DHCP off on all routers except the main router? Hi Toby, The only network that shows up in the View Network Computers and Devices is my local network (called Home, I think). The Linksys wireless network only shows up under Network Infrastructure, whatever that is. DHCP is enabled on the Linksys wireless router. I don't know whether it is enabled on my local network. How do I find out? jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Gary, You are right. I did not correctly write it. It should read 192.168.1.100. Sorry about the error. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
toby10 wrote: Might be a guest network on your WiFi which is designed to be a separate network. Remote access your routers admin web UI functions and see if such a guest network is there (very common on newer routers). Either change the name of that guest network or disable guest network all together (my suggestion). Then your Touch will only be offered the main network via WiFi. Whether guest network or not, all of your network names should be unique to your network(s). Might even be connecting to a neighbors network also named HOME. Dunno. Toby, no guest network shows up in the Linksys wireless router settings. And in the Touch setup the correct name of the wireless network does appear (xxwire). So Touch connects with the wireless but does not connect with Media Server or squeezebox.com. As you observed, somehow the wireless network is apparently getting an incorrect IP. It says 192.169.15.2 (IP Address) rather than 192.168.1.xxx. And the DNS Server (whatever that is) is 192.168.15.1 instead of 192.168.1.xxx. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Hi Kim, Good News: Your suggested test was successful. The correct IP was obtained. The delay in my response was caused by the fact that I had to again recycle the modem and router in order to get back on the internet. However the correct IP was retained and Touch is now able to communicate with mysqueezebox.com. The concern, of course, is that the next time the wireless must be restarted it may revert to the old bad IP mode, apparently caused by a conflict with Vonage. So do you know of any way to prevent this from happening in the future? There is a history of the connection going off from time to time...not often, and usually not for very long. But obviously that is not acceptable so I need to fix this if possible. Any suggestions? jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Kim, I thought I just sent a reply to your post but do not see it. Your test was successful. The correct IP and DNS, as you specified was obtained. The test disconnected the internet so I had to recycle the model and wireless router to get back on the net...also required to hook up the Vonage routers to do that. The good news is that Touch retained the correct IP and DNS and did then connect to mysqueezebox.com. So I am happy about that and thank you for your help. Of course, I am concerned that this problem will recur in the future as it has in the past. Usually in the past it would fix itself. But such an unreliable system is obviously not acceptable. So do you have any suggestions as to how I might fix this problem in order to avoid future problems? Edited to add: Now I see my old post, so apologize for the duplication. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
I have some vinyl rips that are in 24/192 mode (most are 24/96). I have read that Touch will play in 24/96 mode but have not found any confirmation of this in my Touch materials. Will Touch play in 24/96 mode? Will Touch play in 24/192 mode or does it downsample (if so, downsample to 24/96?)? I have also read or heard that a wired connection may produce better sound quality than a wireless connection. Any truth to that? At this time I am connected via wireless, which seems to work fine (except when it won't connect at all, but that is the subject of anothe thread I started today...fortunately one of the members, Kim, solved the mystery for me). Any comments or suggestions you are able to offer will be appreciated. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot Connect To Media Server Or Squeezebox.com
Thanks to everyone who offered help with my problem. I appreciate all your efforts. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99456 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will Touch Play in 24/192 mode? Is wired connection better than wireless?
Thanks for the information. It would be interesting to be play in 24/192 mode just to see if I could hear any difference between that mode and 24/96. I will read the information in the thread with interest. Touch is playing the 24/192 files but apparently it downsamples to do this. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99460 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
aubuti wrote: If you can't find a pattern then it's hard to help, but maybe we can deepen the diagnosis. What type of files are these (FLAC, MP3, etc)? What type of tags do you have (eg, ID3v1, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4, Vorbis comments)? These are FLAC files. The tags are MP3TAG v2.52 tags in the Artist, Album Artist, Artistsort and Albumartistsort fields; however, I may not know enough to understand your question. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
garym wrote: are any of these artists not showing up tracks that are only in compilation albums? No, at this time I am only trying to deal with one artist albums. Examples are Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen. The artist and album artist fields for those albums have only the one name entered in them. As mentioned, the albums are recognized by LMS and a search for the artists does find the artist, e.g. Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen; yet those artists do not appear under Artists in LMS Web Remote Control or on the Squeezebox screen when I select Artists. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
Apesbrain wrote: Try using ALBUMARTIST instead of ALBUM ARTIST. BTW, for most popular music you don't even need this tag value; just use ARTIST and leave these other fields blank. The SORT tags are only used if you want to specify a list sort position different from the way the tag is normally displayed, e.g. you want Bob Dylan to appear in Artist sort under Dylan, Bob: ARTIST=Bob Dylan ARTISTSORT=Dylan, Bob Add the TAGS column to your Mp3tag display and be sure it only shows FLAC (FLAC). If any other type of tag is also in the files, it should be removed as this will cause strange behavior. Thanks for the information. I guess I have been doing some unnecessary work by adding the ALBUMARTISTSORT AND ARTISTSORT entries. With regard to the ALBUM ARTIST entry I just fill in the field in MP3TAG, which is ALBUM ARTIST. Should I instead add a field of ALBUM ARTIST in the extended field section? I did add the TAGS column to the MP3TAG display and so far all entries do only show FLAC (FLAC). jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
garym wrote: right click on mp3tag column headings, select custom column, then use this as the value: %_tag_read%[ (%_tag%)] I did add the custom column as you suggested. It reflects FLAC (FLAC). The Tag column also is FLAC (FLAC) in the testing I have done so far, which does include a Bob Dylan album. However, still no Bob Dylan in the Artists selection. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
Apesbrain wrote: If you do a Clear library scan, it automatically clears the cache. I did not know that. Thanks for the info. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Albums Correctly Tagged With MP3tag Don't Show Artists
garym wrote: to diagnose this problem, I'd take a problem album (one not showing) and remove all the artist sort or album artist tags (just leave ARTIST). Then do a clear and rescan (new and changed likely won't pick up these changes). If it shows up then, I'd start adding back the other tags (one at a time) until it quits showing. Then you'll know what's causing the problem. I did try what you suggested. Still no Bob Dylan under Artists. There are two albums with Bob Dylan and the Band as Artist. Those show up...but no Bob Dylan. Thanks for the suggestion. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97793 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Color Management of Scanned Album Art
jdt7385 wrote: I am unable to achieve good color in album art that I have scanned and added to the music using either dbPoweramp or MP3tag. I scan the art from the CD cover and do modest editing in Photoshop. I use either Adobe RGB or Prophoto profiles. I have tried changing the color profile to sRGB (usually good for web work) and deleting the profile (no color management). No matter what I do the color in the photos in both the dbPoweramp and MP3tag programs and on the screen in Squeezebox are dark and lifeless. What should I do to correct this problem? I use Photoshop CS5. I will appreciate any help you are able to provide. I have figured out what I was doing wrong. I was converting the color profile of the file to sRGB but was doing so after I had already baked' the large gamut ProPhoto profile into the file by flattening it after doing the edits (very limited edits, but that does not matter). I started with an unedited scan, used the sRGB profile, made the simple edits and it looks good. So it appears that I have to process the sRGB and ProPhoto files separately. I sometimes make copies of the album art for copies of CDs that I put into the plastic cases so I produce two files, one for that purpose (4.75 x 4.75) and one for the Squeezebox display, the size of which I reduce by 50%. Thanks to all of you for your comments. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95637 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Color Management of Scanned Album Art
I am unable to achieve good color in album art that I have scanned and added to the music using either dbPoweramp or MP3tag. I scan the art from the CD cover and do modest editing in Photoshop. I use either Adobe RGB or Prophoto profiles. I have tried changing the color profile to sRGB (usually good for web work) and deleting the profile (no color management). No matter what I do the color in the photos in both the dbPoweramp and MP3tag programs and on the screen in Squeezebox are dark and lifeless. What should I do to correct this problem? I use Photoshop CS5. I will appreciate any help you are able to provide. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95637 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
garym wrote: Agree. I use Dbpa. And use mp3tag for tag cleanup. Although not needed much after dbpa. Edit: And I'm in the process of reripping about 10,000 CDs to FLAC with dbpa. Couldn't be more pleased. Wow, 10,000 CDs...makes my 1600 files seem small. I tried using EAC but cannot seem to make it work. I just now downloaded the trial version of dBpoweramp and am going to give it a go. One issue I have with Media Server is that the listing of artist is inconsistent. Some artists are listed first name first (my preference) and others are listed last name first. I cannot find any setting in Media Server that allows me to set this up. Is there a way to do that? Perhaps I should start a new thread rather than asking an off topic question in this one. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
Squeezemenicely wrote: I also think that dbpoweramp is worth every penny. It is fast, reliable, the tags are great - especially for classical music and easy to use. Been ripping like crazy, also retouching tags with mp3tag. You really should re-rip your discs, might be less work than trying to tag your wave files in the end. Do a bunch every day, you will get there in the end... I could not make EAC work for me (due, I am sure, to my lack of understanding how to do it). I just downloaded dBpoweramp and worked with it a little. I think I will be able to use it with the help of the documentation. My priorities at this time are to get a system set up that works well (and that I am able to use), then start the process of reripping CDs (at least those that have any tagging problems). It looks like I will end up using the dBpoweramp/mp3tag combination. Thanks for your reply. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
bmor wrote: I have two systems, a home theatre with a Pioneer avr and a two channel with integrated amp and cd player. I use WAV files because my Pioneer avr will play that format directly from a USB portable hard drive, but won't play flac, so I didn't have much choice about the format. I use a Touch on the two channel system with a duplicate hard drive plugged in directly. I use EAC for ripping. I had the problem of unknown artist and a few other things so I used Foobar to check the tagging info and found it varied a lot from file to file. What worked for me was to edit the tags and simplify the info to Artist, CD Title, Genre and track number. I don't have access to Foobar at the moment but I think those were the categories. I also think that folder structure is important. I found i need to have an artist folder and then individual album sub-folders. On compilations I needed to create an artist folder name and place the album folder in it. For example, Atlantic records put out some jazz compilations of various artists, one called Keyboards, another Best of the 50's. I had to put the two under a folder I called Atlantic. I don't recall the tagging I did, would have to check. Anyways, all is good now, the Touch organizes everything as it should, so it is possible to use WAV files if you have a reason to like I did. I chose wav because i did not know which format to choose. I ripped my CDs using Windows Media Server and just chose one of the formats (happened to be wav) that offered the best quality of the choices offered. At this time I have no reason to prefer wav to flac. However, since my CDs are 16 bit, I don't know that the audio quality of flac would be any better than that of wav. I do, however, have some tagging issues due (I think) to the limitations of the Windows Media Player tagging system. I also have quite a few flac files that I have downloaded (mostly vinyl rips) that are 24 bit. Since Squeezebox will play both the wav and flac files I am not that concerned about leaving (for now at least) most of the CD files in wav. At this time I am just feeling my way through, trying to address the problems I encounter along the way. One recent issue is the artist listing: some are listed first name first and others are listed last name first. I can't find a way to fix that problem. Thanks for your reply. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
garym wrote: name listing is simply how you tagged the files when you ripped. Some were tagged Neil Young and some were tagged Young, Neil. Many people use ARTISTSORT tags to hold, for example, Young, Neil and then let the ARTIST tag be Neil Young. This is nice because the Now Playing screen shows Neil Young but the sorting in the library is under Young, Neil. mp3tag will be your friend in terms of cleaning up tags on existing rips. Fairly simple, but can be powerful. Can do lots of batch operations, etc. Thanks for your quick reply. I did not do a good job of describing the artist listing issue. Here is an example: The artist listing for Emmylou Harris appears as Emmylou Harris (not Harris, Emmylou as I said in my post...sorry about that). However, the artist listing appears under H and not E. Other (and I think most) artists are listed under the initial of the first name. For example, Herbie Hancock appears in correct alphabetical order under H. The Emmylou Harris albums are tagged as Emmylou Harris and not Harris, Emmylou. So far I am unable to figure out what is causing the inconsistent listing. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
RussellMrgn wrote: dBpoweramp is the way to go. Over the last 3 years, I with a friend have been converting our combined music collection to FLAC (14,000+ cd's). My ripper of choice is dBpoweramp, as its interface is much easier than EAC. With a collection this large, backing up your music is a must, and for this I use a backup program called GoodSync. It's worth the time and pain to do it right and although its not free the small cost of paying for dBpoweramp is worth it's weight in gold. Once you have paid for the program, you will have free updates and access to its metadata page, which uses 4 databases to lookup and tag your music and the benefit of accurip, a nice feature for telling you that your rip is accurate, based on other users submissions. With the use of codecs from the dbps site, you can re encode ripped music to almost any format that you wish i.e. WAV to FLAC. Another thing of note between the two programs (dbpa + EAC) is that accurip was written by Spoons, the guy who wrote dBpoweramp, and he is very active and helpful on his support forums on any questions that you may have. I found that I am apparently not smart enough to use EAC so I am trying dBpoweramp (and mp3tag for fixes). You guys who are ripping 5 digits worth of CDs are making me feel better about having Aonly 4 digits worth. The input I am getting in this forum is very helpful to help my avoid an further missteps (the first big one being to spend a lot of time ripping with Windows Media Player, which produced less than ideal results). Thanks for the post. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
ralphpnj wrote: Things needed for successful ripping and maintenance of a music library: dbPowerAmp: worth every penny of its low price. Back up: A full mirrored back up is a must. If you think ripping a CD collection once is a pain, just think how painful re-ripping that collection will be if your hard drive fails and you have no back up. I know because I learned the hard way. mp3Tag: either this free program or any other quality tagging program is another must have. Renamer: a good batch renaming program will also come in quite handy. Image editing program: a good image editing program will also come in handy for managing and maintaining good cover art. I use FastStone Image Viewer, a very nice free program which handles most graphic formats as well as scans. DVD Audio Extractor: for extracting audio from DVD-Video and DVD-Audio discs. You are far more advanced that I at this point in time. For now it appears that I will wind up with dBpoweramp and mp3tag. For now I will be quite happy if I can get those programs to give me well tagged rips to flac, then be able to convert them to wav or some other format in order to burn CDs when needed (or perhaps dBpoweramp can burn CDs with flac files...I have not gotten that far). As for backup, I have a rather basic system. I just use another hard drive mounted in a mobile rack tray for my backup. As files change I place the backup drive into the mobile rack, copy/delete or whatever necessary to change the files, remove the backup drive and store it in a closet. Primitive perhaps, but it works. Thanks for your reply. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
ralphpnj wrote: dbPowerAmp must certainly can burn a CD from flac files, or from just about any music file format out there. That is good news indeed. I was inclined to keep the wav files already on the drive as wav (not rescan as flac) to avoid the need to convert from flac in order to burn CDs. If I can burn directly from flac there is no reason to keep any wav files. Thanks for the information. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
garym wrote: the tagging issue with WAV is that there is no tag standard for wav and every player does it different. Thus the main advantage for FLAC (good tagging). And both Wav and FLAC are lossless. Lossless=lossless, so there is no sound quality difference one way or the other. for tagging, this tells me that your tags must have an ARTISTSORT or ALBUMARTISTSORT tag for Emmylou Harris (with the sort tag containing Harris, Emmylou. The albums used in my example (Emmylou Harris and Holly Cole) were ripped using Windows Media Player and the artist names input exactly the same way (first name first last name last). When the information is viewed in Windows Media Player the artist information is displayed that way, i.e. Emmylou Harris and Holly Cole. So I don't know why the information appears in a different way in Squeezebox. Apparently there is no way to fix this with the wav files. A similar problem with flac files could perhaps be fixed with mp3tag. Is there any way to correct tag information of wav files with dBpoweramp? The only reason I belabor this a bit is that I am not going to be able to rerip my CDs to flac right away and at this time there is no consistency with how the artist information will appear in the index. Thanks for your help. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
ralphpnj wrote: Based on what you've written I would guess that there are several different artist tags on the Emmylou Harris files. Download mp3tag and check all the tags within the files by using the extended tags feature. Most likely it will show something like this: artist: Emmylou Harris albumartist: Harris, Emmylou and/or album artist: Harris, Emmylou and/or artistsort: Harris, Emmylou Just delete or change the field and do a clear and rescan of your music library. You are absolutely right. The problem was with artistsort, which on one of the albums did show Harris, Emmylou. Until you advised me, I did not know about the extended tags section. I was puzzled because the basic information for all the albums did reflect Emmylou Harris as the album artist and the artist. I changed the artistsort setting and now the albums do indeed show up under the E index and not the H index. Many thanks for the help. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
ralphpnj wrote: If you will be using dbPowerAmp and mp3tag there is no pressing need to re-rip anything. Just do a batch conversion of your wav files to flac using dbPowerAmp and clean up the tags with mp3tag. You can always re-rip the CDs at your leisure whenever you have time. Remember that both dbPowerAmp and mp3tag are very powerful programs which can be configured to exactly what you want. Plus both programs are very well documented with tons of hints and how to's available with just a little old google search. That is a very appealing alternative to reripping the CDs. Do you think I lose any real world quality in the conversion? If not I am already headed toward conversion city (first I must learn how to do the conversion...then batch conversion, etc.; however, the dBpoweramp documentation seems to be good, as you mention). Many thanks for your help. You and the others on this forum have provided some really helpful information, for which I am very grateful. Thanks to all of you. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
I am a new owner of the Squeezebox Touch and am trying to manage a pretty large (over 1600) albums, some of which are flac and some of which are wav. I have ripped my CDs using Windows Media Player and chose wav for those (flac was not an option...and I did not know about flac at that time). I am using mp3tag to add tags to flac files that are not properly tagged. However, I have not found a way to make Logitech Media Server recognize Albumartist for the wav files; I only see the track artists for the wav files (and many of the wav files do not have the track artists filled in, so I end up with a lot of Unknown Artist files. Finally, my questions: 1. How should I handle the tagging of the wav files? Should I convert them to flac in order to use mp3tag? If so, how do I do that? Which software should I use? I do not see any way to do that with Windows Media Player or other software that I have. Should I leave the wav files as wav files and use other software to tag them? I have been reripping some of the CDs in Windows Media Player in order to fill in the Artists column (to avoid the Unknown Artist problem) but then I wind up with Various Artists as the album artist, which is not what I want. 2. It appears that in the future I should rip CDs to flac rather than to wav. Is that right? If so, which software is best for doing that? Windows Media Player does not offer flac as an alternative. As far as I can determine Windows Media Player is the only software I have for ripping CDs. I will appreciate any advice you are able to offer. I fear that I have wasted a lot of time trying to make wav files work with Media Server and I need to figure out how to do this right before proceeding further. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
dasmueller wrote: You will find that most people here are advocates of FLAC as a file format. It is lossless and takes up less space on your drive. Wav does not have good support for tagging. The two software applications people prefer for ripping are Eac and Dbpoweramp. Eac is free, Dbpoweramp is not free. I use Eac and it works fine. I have not used Dbpoweramp but there are many advocates. I believe it may have more features than Eac. I would suggest looking at both and deciding from there. Thanks for the prompt reply. I will look into Eac and Dbpoweramp. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeebox Touch: tagging wav flac files; conversion of wav to flac; rip CDs to flac
Jeff Flowerday wrote: Windows Media Player is absolutely horrible ripper. I did most of my collection the first time around with WMP and found files with digital noise when discs weren't in absolutely perfect shape. So if you value accuracy in your rips, I suggest you rerip your whole collection again with dbPoweramp. You'll kill 3 birds with one stone. 1) FLAC files 2) dbPoweramp will properly tag your flac files 3) dbPoweramp will confirm your rips as accurate against the accurate rip database and store these results in tags for future reference. I know it's a real pain to rerip but in the end you'll be real happy you did. Hi Jeff, thanks for the input. At this time I do not have the time to rerip my entire collection. However, I may start the process and do it gradually. I am going to look into both Eac and dbpoweramp. Do either of those programs convert wav files to flac? If I converted the wav files to flac I could use mp3tag to tag them. jdt7385's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56306 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95312 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
