[ubuntu-art] Lubuntu Spec

2010-12-05 Thread j_baer

Thorsten,

I updated the Lubuntu spec with modified content from Xubuntu. ( look @ the
Inspiration :- ) 

Mario - we could use your help in adding words to the spec which will assist
artists as they craft submissions. In addition, I would like a high quality
( png / svg ) logo image so that I may create the Lubuntu flickr group. Just
attached it to the spec or send it to my email. :-)

Best regards,

John
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[ubuntu-art] Wallpaper Submissions

2010-12-05 Thread j_baer

I would like to draw your attention to the wallpaper submissions being posted
to the Xubuntu and Edubuntu flickr groups. Thanks!

My first Edubuntu submission is titled "Where am I?". Does anyone know the
answer?

;-)

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[ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo Submissions

2010-12-04 Thread j_baer

Hello everyone,

I collected all of the submissions ( 41 :- ) and created a wiki page based
on the Launchpad use case.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/TeamLogoSubmissions

The objective is to view the candidates as they may appear on a web page (
desired target ).

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] The Brickyard - Week of 2010-12-03

2010-12-04 Thread j_baer

* Dates *

A general discussion about the best format for dates and the "silent
consensus" is to accept the ISO 8601 standard which is -mm-dd.

* Open Office Splash *

The question was raised the current Open Office splash screen will need to
be changed. It was agreed the splash screen should be updated but deferred
as LibreOffice branding is under heavy development.

* Inkscape *

For users of Inkscape under Maverick an annoying bug which scrambles the
rulers pointers has been fixed and is available from a PPA.

* Bugsquad Icon * 

Leandro's designs were selected as the desired candidate and this task was
closed. Thanks to everyone who submitted proposals.

* Xubuntu Wallpaper Submissions *

The specification is complete and Xubntu wallpaper submission will be
accepted.

* OpenShot Remix *

A remix of the Ubuntu promotional video clip was posted as a proof of
concept for the OpenShot video editor. The view count is currently at 797 on
YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLIS_y4vuI

* Edubuntu Wallpaper Submissions *

The specification is complete and Edubntu wallpaper submission will be
accepted.

* Managing Criticism *

A tip on how to present and accept criticism.

* Artwork Team Logo *

Submissions for the Artwork Team Logo project concluded with forty one
designs submitted. :-)

Some discussion was offered if the project should be extended.

Thank you to all who participated.


* New to the List *

penguinplus

Rafael, Mario, and Julien from the Lubuntu community

Welcome!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] OpenShot - Ubuntu Promo Video Remix

2010-12-04 Thread j_baer


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> On 30/11/10 17:51, j_baer wrote:
>> Ivanka Majic wrote:
>>
>>> The original video was purposefully light and think that the music you
>>> have chosen, while a lovely track in it's own right, flattens the
>>> experience and makes it heavy. I also think you could do more with the
>>> intro and exit sequences. "Discover computing as it should be" is quite
>>> a nice line but what is the idea you are trying to portray? Black is all
>>> very hard, heavy and serious; is that Ubuntu?
>>>
>>> Ivanka
>>>
>> Ivanka
>>
>> What I liked most about the music is the title and the way the tempo
>> matched
>> the cadence of the promo video. The video clip convey's a great message
>> and
>> the Design Team did a nice job putting it together.
>>
>>
> I love that you took what was there and worked on it to make it more. I 
> think this is a really interesting idea and that if you take the time to 
> explore a little what values the video already has you could make it so 
> much more. Now that the tool has been mastered, the exploration can 
> commence! Do you think that the video is more about a tune like this: 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4FaGacwtd4 - that it is how I see it: 
> light, dynamic, fun, friendly, happy! It moves with bounce and energy - 
> Ubuntu is clever enough that it doesn't have to take itself too 
> seriously. The pictograms have some of that: they are constrained within 
> a circle, they are clever but they are approachable. The pictograms you 
> have explored for the Artwork logo reflect that work - is there 
> something you could borrow from that?
> 
> What do you think about writing a blog post about how to use OpenShot? 
> Perhaps we could work on a mood board for the video together and then 
> you could include that in the blog post by way of setting out a 
> challenge for people? There could be a visual and a sound mood board. 
> Maybe we could find some Creative Commons tunes here that we could use? 
> http://soundcloud.com/groups/ubuntu-free-culture-showcase
> 
> Ivanka
> 
> Canonical Design Team
> m: 07968704460
> e: ivanka.ma...@canonical.com
> 

Ivanka,

Thank you for your comments. I really like what PiTiVi has accomplished to
date but improvements lag behind other products such as OpenShot and
Kdenlive. IMO Ubuntu needs a robust video editor targeted to "not
professionally trained" individuals.

I like the idea of an OpenShot screen cast and I will see if I can squeeze
it in. :-)

A source of sounds I have used in the past is  http://www.freesound.org/
FreeSound Org .

Best regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!

2010-12-03 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 18:15 -0800, j_baer wrote:
>> 
>> j_baer wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hello everyone,
>> > 
>> > I could not be more pleased with the submissions and thank you to
>> everyone
>> > who contributed. Please upload any last minute creations today
>> > (2010-12-01).
>> > 
>> > Cheers,
>> > 
>> > John
>> > 
>> 
>> Just an update to this post. We received 27 high quality submissions and
>> I
>> anticipate selecting the successful candidate may take a week or perhaps
>> a
>> little longer. :-)
>> 
>> Thanks again everyone!
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Why isn't this in the submissions list? :
> <http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/TimeArtwork#head-cdff2bf16ee7854db58cf2519dc2b1c99af15a90>
> Any reason it was left out?
> Blau Araujo mentioned it here on the mailing list on 27 Oct.
> 
> Though it's more of a modification of the Ubuntu CoF(which few folks
> don't prefer), I find it the best of the existing lot. 
> It's easier to recognize both as 'Ubuntu' and 'artwork' related. Would
> scale better and is less "busy" than the other submissions.
> 
> 

These are great! I didn't see them in the flickr group but I will gladly add
them to the list. :-)



> 
> Regarding the closing date. Weren't we waiting on Ivanka's survey result
> to identify the scope of this team? And there was the indecision on
> whether the team should be an Ubuntu Artwork or an Ubuntu Design team?
> 
> I was hoping someone [some guy from Germany? ;p] would bring this up! 
> We need to first identify what we want to be before we finalize a logo.
> 
> 

My hope was the spec would provide enough background info for folks to
create submissions. Along the way I encouraged thinking out of the box and
IMO we have a great set of submissions to choose from.

As participation was open to all, it was easy to voice an opinion or express
a vision by submitting artwork and if the decision was not to submit that
was ok as well. :-) 

With everything on the project board my expectation is folks will pick and
choose based on their interest and availability.

The topic of changing the name of the team to "Design Team" was only spoke
of briefly at the last meeting and did not receive enough discussion IMO
opinion to move it forward. I certainly like the idea but we already have a
Canonical design team and having two may become problematic.

I agree choosing the best submission to represent the team is going to be a
challenge and will take some time but placing the entire effort on hold
pending the identification of our scope would be a mistake. IMO our scope is
defined by what we are able to complete, the acceptance of our work by the
community, and is likely to change from time to time. There are too many
unknowns.

As to the topic of selection, I certainly welcome suggestions. 

My first choice is to engage the Design Team. They know us best and are the
most qualified. IMO I believe folks will respect their decision as fair and
impartial.

My second choice is to assemble a panel of qualified judges from outside of
the community.

My third choice is to create a poll and let the team decide.

I would like to get this right, but if some time in the future we decide to
change it - wouldn't that be fun.

Thank you for your comments.

Best regards,

John


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[ubuntu-art] Re ady for Edubuntu Wallpaper Submissions

2010-12-02 Thread j_baer

I am pleased to announce we are ready to accept Edubuntu wallpaper
submissions.

Spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper

Cheers!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!

2010-12-02 Thread j_baer


j_baer wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I could not be more pleased with the submissions and thank you to everyone
> who contributed. Please upload any last minute creations today
> (2010-12-01).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 

Just an update to this post. We received 27 high quality submissions and I
anticipate selecting the successful candidate may take a week or perhaps a
little longer. :-)

Thanks again everyone!

John
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[ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo - Submissions due today!

2010-12-01 Thread j_baer

Hello everyone,

I could not be more pleased with the submissions and thank you to everyone
who contributed. Please upload any last minute creations today (2010-12-01).

Cheers,

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

2010-11-30 Thread j_baer


Jakub Jankiewicz-3 wrote:
> 
> I create wallpaper for Xubuntu (dimensions as in spec)
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5221489829/
> 
> 

Jakub,

Very nice and thank you posting this submission early. :-)

I am making an assumption some folks will install Xubuntu on smaller laptops
or perhaps netbooks.

My question is how well does this design scale to a "1024 x 576" 16:9 aspect
ratio.

Will you investigate and report back?

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] Welcome Lubuntu

2010-11-30 Thread j_baer

Perhaps you noticed the Lubuntu task on the project board! I would like to
welcome Rafael, Mario, and Julien from the Lubuntu community to the team.

The next item to be complete is the spec. We have two available for your
consideration. IMO a modification of the Xubuntu spec would be a good start.
For the most part these are Thorsten's handi-work and I am sure he and
others from the team would be willing to assist.

In many ways this is an excellent opportunity for us to learn more about the
Lubuntu distribution.

Feel free to post your ideas here or modify the 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0008_Lubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper wiki 

Again welcome!

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] Managing Criticism

2010-11-30 Thread j_baer

Without a doubt Artwork and criticism are like oil and vintager. Without
critique there is no opportunity for improvement; too much criticism kills
creativity. It may sound like a no win situation, but it's not.

The secret is to acknowledge the effort even if you disagree with the
result.

>From the mentor's perspective this works as it affirms regardless of the
result, it took time and energy to create it. Acknowledging this first
frames the rest. Phrasing comments favorably by stating what you liked will
make comments for improvement more palatable. Making reference of an example
is a great learning opportunity.

>From the contributor's perspective this works as it affirms the fact it took
time and energy to critique and comment on your work. Accept this as a
positive even if the words are not what you were hoping to hear. Accept the
fact the author is simply offering their point of view based on the
information available.

Why is this important? Posting submissions on this team should be viewed as
an opportunity and the success of the team is dependent on participation. Do
not be afraid to contribute because your efforts may not be received
favorably. There is no better place.

When asked, please critique another members effort as I consider mentoring
equally important.

Best regards,

John



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Re: [ubuntu-art] OpenShot - Ubuntu Promo Video Remix

2010-11-30 Thread j_baer


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> The original video was purposefully light and think that the music you 
> have chosen, while a lovely track in it's own right, flattens the 
> experience and makes it heavy. I also think you could do more with the 
> intro and exit sequences. "Discover computing as it should be" is quite 
> a nice line but what is the idea you are trying to portray? Black is all 
> very hard, heavy and serious; is that Ubuntu?
> 
> Ivanka
> 

Ivanka

What I liked most about the music is the title and the way the tempo matched
the cadence of the promo video. The video clip convey's a great message and
the Design Team did a nice job putting it together.

Thank you for your comments,

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[ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Spec - Take Two

2010-11-29 Thread j_baer

Thorsten, Jonathan, All:

The following is my attempt at the Edubuntu spec.  :-)



> Introduction
> 
> Edubuntu desires to enhance Ubuntu with the best open source educational
> software available and to provide a solution which is easy to install and
> maintain.
> 
> The current wallpaper is two (2) releases old and is in need of something
> fresh and new. The successful candidate may be used to inspire the
> remaining Edubuntu branding.
> 
> Roles
>   * Students
>   * Teachers
> 
> Desired message to Students
>   Edubuntu is:
> * Fun
> * Empowering
> * Important
> * Open
> * A valuable experience
> 
>   Metaphors and associations:
> * Games
> * Exploration
> * Pencil
> * Water colors
> * Space
> * Energy
> 
> Desired message to Teachers
>   Edubuntu is:
> * Stable, reliable
> * Secure
> * Free of charge
> * Open the mind to new ideas
> * Inspire and motivate
> * Improve academic performance
> * Improve personal growth
> * Satisfy the need for a sophisticated and rewarding learning
> experience
> 
>   Metaphors and associations:
> * Classroom
> * Books
> * Chalkboard
> * Science
> * Poem
> * Music
> * Math
> * Teaching
> * Learning
> * Community
> 
> Palette
> 
> The Edubuntu palette is bold and rich and the community wishes to continue
> the tradition by using colors which are vibrant yet pleasing to the eye.
> 
> The wallpaper must blend with and support desktop panels, windows and
> icons (as far as they appear on the desktop). The selection of colors must
> support the impression of confidence, lightness, and performance, without
> becoming a distraction in day-to-day use. Aside of this, there is no
> predefined, required palette for the wallpaper.
> 
> Constraints
> ... ( no change )
> 
> Workflow
> ... ( no change )
> 
> ToDo
> ... ( same as Xubuntu )
> 
> 

Feel free to change as desired.

John


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World!

2010-11-29 Thread j_baer



Paul-479 wrote:
> 
>  Hello,
> 
> my name is penguinplus. I'm new to all of this. I like photography and
> plan
> to try to make backrounds.
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Welcome!

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[ubuntu-art] Re ady for Xubuntu Wallpaper Submissions

2010-11-28 Thread j_baer

I am pleased to announce we are ready to accept Xubuntu wallpaper
submissions. Just to get things started I posted my first submission and it
is available  http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-7/ here  for your
consideration.

The guidance from the spec states a blue palette and I decided to use these 
http://www.degraeve.com/color-palette/index.php?q=http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2550/4208956193_6617cf39bd_z.jpg,1e364742768f638da55a9fc2a0bacc,0c497830a7e07fb8d878cefae2eff8
colors  for this submission. Although abstract, high performance is implied
with the dust trail from the ball of light.

Created with GIMP & Inkscape.

Cheers!

John


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[ubuntu-art] OpenShot - Ubuntu Promo Video Remix

2010-11-28 Thread j_baer

I decided to give the OpenShot video editor a test by remixing the Ubuntu
promotional video to some music and adding intro and exit sequences. After
changing the theme to be less "MAC" I was very comfortable with the
interface and pleased with the power.

The additional sequences were created in GIMP and Inkscape.

I titled the clip "Ubuntu - Something Beautiful".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLIS_y4vuI

For the best viewing experience select 720 HD and turn up your volume.

Enjoy!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2010-11-28 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 16:58 -0800, j_baer wrote:
>> Charlie & Vish,
>> 
>> This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of these meet
>> your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.
>> 
>>   *  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_Icon
>> Submissions 
> 
> Hey, 
> We discussed this a couple of days ago, and most of the team seemed to
> like the direction of leogg's 4, 5 and 1.
> One concern was how recognizable the 14px icon would be. 
> 
> So, maybe refining those icons further will help narrowing down the
> final choice.
> [we mainly need the 64px and 14px, the 192px is a bonus]
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Vish
> 
> 

Vish,

That's great news. Leandro will you work on your #4, 5, & 1 submissions as
suggested by Vish? My experience is icons in the 16px range can be a
challenge. :-)

Thank you to everyone who participated.

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-art] Without Submissions - We are Nothing

2010-11-27 Thread j_baer

Hello Everyone,

I am pleased to announce comments received off-line in reference to the
Artwork Team Logo submissions are very positive and thank you. However as
the clock ticks down on this task (2010-12-01) I would like to challenge the
Team to think out of the box. 

To quote Paul Rand (  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rand  ) ...



> If, in the business of communications, “image is king,” the essence of
> this image, the logo, is a jewel in its crown.
> 
> Here’s what a logo is and does:
> 
> A logo is a flag, a signature, an escutcheon.
> 
> A logo doesn’t sell (directly), it identifies.
> 
> A logo is rarely a description of a business.
> 
> A logo derives its meaning from the quality of the thing it symbolizes,
> not the other way around.
> 
> A logo is less important than the product it signifies; what it means is
> more important than what it looks like.
> 

In summary, it symbolizes who we are.

This team supports Ubuntu, but more importantly it supports the greater
community and the greater community does not have the resources available to
Ubuntu.

I encourage everyone who has not, to support this team/community with your
talent as without submissions we are nothing.

Best regards,

John

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[ubuntu-art] Need Advice - Bugsquad Icon

2010-11-27 Thread j_baer

Charlie & Vish,

This task has submissions posted for your review. Will one of these meet
your needs? If not, please advise on how they can be better.

  *  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs//0003_Bugsquad_Icon Submissions 

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] Inkscape Papercut

2010-11-27 Thread j_baer

Inkscape under Maverick has an annoying bug where the ruler markers do not
display correctly.

If you want to take a chance, :-) an updated version may be loaded which
fixed this issue for me.

Bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/+bug/627134

ppa: https://launchpad.net/~towolf/+archive/ppa

Cheers!

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[ubuntu-art] The Brickyard - Week of 2010-11-26

2010-11-27 Thread j_baer

* Ubuntu Forums *

Pending any new requests from Mike Basinger, this task is considered
complete. You may view the new design at this URL.

http://www.mikesplanet.net/forums/forum.php

Thank you to everyone who contributed!

* LibreOffice *

LibreOffice is currently at 3.3 Beta 3 and much of the ground work continues
to be laid. My understanding is the current branding will remain for this
release but the desire is to re-brand the next release with a community
emphasis. With that in mind, early submission may be more brain storming but
are very important.

The LibreOffice community has expressed their appreciation for the
contributions from this community.

Thank you.

* Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad *

The spec for this task is complete and early submissions placed. There is
still time for additional ideas!

* Community Toolkit * 

A vigorous discussion on a community toolkit occurred where the desire was
expressed to have a repository of "css" style sheets and other branding
assets to assist web designers in updating web pages.

* Xubuntu Wallpaper *

The specs for this task was discussed and agreed changes are now in place.
If the specs does not provide a clear understanding of the desired outcome,
please post your questions to the list. If you would your submission
reviewed, post this request to the list.

* Edubuntu Wallpaper *

The spec for this task is still under review. I anticipate this to be
complete shortly.

* Tweaks to the Wiki *

With the desire to improve the wiki to better serve our needs some minor
changes have been made. If something does not work as expected please post
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Spec Organization

2010-11-25 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> My organization compulsion trumped my dislike of the wiki for a moment,
> because I couldn't stand seeing:
> 
> 

Thank you Thorten!

I always support improvement and will review when time permits.

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[ubuntu-art] Papercuts Ninja

2010-11-25 Thread j_baer

I presumed they were coming and here they are - Papercuts Ninja.

http://design.canonical.com/2010/11/here-come-the-ninjas/

https://launchpad.net/~papercuts-ninja

Changing loose ends to achieve a professional polish look is nothing new to
this team and I applaud this moving to center stage within the community.

The question for us is "what is the best approach"? Will our current
processes satisfy this need?

AFAIK we should be in good shape but it never hurts to ask the question.

Cheers!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-24 Thread j_baer


coz wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 AM, j_baer  wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> >
>> > Can you help me with this? Do you need more information? (by the way, I
>> > am not an artist, but only the person that seems to know where to go
>> > for help).
>> >
> 
> Hey guys,
>   This is just my 2 cents worth;
> 
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/art-team/buggy.tar.gz
> 
> coz
> 
> 

Hey coz,

These are great and very original. I love your "Ubuntu bug" and with your
permission I would like to update my submissions using this concept.

Best Regards,

John


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Re: [ubuntu-art] LibreOffice Logo Concept

2010-11-24 Thread j_baer


Jakub Jankiewicz-3 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is new logo submission
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Jakub Jankiewicz
> 
> 

Jakub,

Thank you for showing your support with your submission for this important
community project.

Best regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-23 Thread j_baer


Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> 
> Can you help me with this? Do you need more information? (by the way, I
> am not an artist, but only the person that seems to know where to go
> for help).
> 
> - -- 
> Charlie Kravetz 
> Linux Registered User Number 425914  [http://counter.li.org/]
> Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
> 
> 

Hello Everyone,

AFAIK this is all setup and ready for submissions.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-3

In fact there are already submissions ( thank you Leandro ).

Have an idea, give it a go!

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-22 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 17:06 -0800, j_baer wrote:
>> Hey Everyone,
>> 
>> I put a some love into this spec and added a couple of submissions just
>> to
>> get things started. Don't be shy to add yours!
>> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-3 Specification 
> 
> In addition to being 'bugsquad', The logo should emphasize on a mentor
> <-> mentee relationship..
> 
> Focus on 'A' is secondary to the relationship. 
> Too much emphasis on the 'A' will make it necessary to redo the logo for
> a team 'B'. As the plan is to add more teams if the team 'A' works out.
> 
>> 
>> Charlie & Vish, please feel free to change as desired ( ie. I did not
>> know
>> when you would like this complete ).
>> 
>> I made the assumption the primary goal is to support the Launchpad site
>> and
>> if my memory serves me correctly the correct image size is 192 x 192 px.
> 
> Actually  64x64  is the icon used on the lp team's main page, but lp has
> an option to add 192x192 and 14x14 images. 
> 14px icon is used in a few places, But I have *never* seen the 192px
> image used anywhere.
> 
> So i would suggest we concentrate on the 64x64 icon plus the 14px icon
> and not worry too much about the 192x192 icon, which we could just do as
> a banner for the team and not as a logo. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Vish
> 
> 

Vish,

Thank you for the information. Will you update the spec. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-21 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 07:49 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> I have tasked to get a icon for a new team being set up by the
>> Ubuntu-bugsquad mentoring program. The team will be called the
>> bugsquad-mentor-teamA . This team will be set up to test a new concept
>> in mentoring bugsquad applicants. This will be a three-month test. If
>> the test proves beneficial to the bugsquad, more teams will be created.
>> 
>> I believe this should be a logo, that
>> can be used by this team specifically, to show a relationship between a
>> mentor and a mentee. It also will need the A on it to designate that
>> this is team A. This logo will be used on the launchpad team page and
>> bugsqad wiki pages.
>> 
>> Can you help me with this? Do you need more information? (by the way, I
>> am not an artist, but only the person that seems to know where to go
>> for help).
>> 
>> - -- 
>> Charlie Kravetz 
>> Linux Registered User Number 425914  [http://counter.li.org/]
>> Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
> 
> Hi,
> I'v added it to the tasks list:
> 
> 
> iirc, there was once a icon/logo proposal for the GNOME bugsquad, but it
> seems to have not been used. Not sure what happened to that..
> 
> -- 
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Hey Everyone,

I put a some love into this spec and added a couple of submissions just to
get things started. Don't be shy to add yours!

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-3 Specification 

Charlie & Vish, please feel free to change as desired ( ie. I did not know
when you would like this complete ).

I made the assumption the primary goal is to support the Launchpad site and
if my memory serves me correctly the correct image size is 192 x 192 px.

Cheers!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [request] packages.ubuntu.com needs rebranding

2010-11-21 Thread j_baer


Сергей-33 wrote:
> 
> Web interface to Ubuntu repositories, http://packages.ubuntu.com/, needs
> rebranding to conform the new Ubuntu branding.
> Frank Lichtenheld  maintains this website.
> Information
> about upstream developers can be found at at
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/about/.
> 
> I guess this should be added to our tasks list. I'd be glad to help with
> this as soon as I get some free time (which is not likely to happen soon,
> I'm afraid).
> 
> Respectfully,
> --
> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
> 

Sergey,

This is great. There is certainly no reason why we can't do our part to
reduce paper cuts. Ivanka blogged about it 
http://design.canonical.com/2010/11/paper-cuts-need-you/ here .

Thoughts on the best approach?

John


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2010-11-21 Thread j_baer


Hrafn Nordhri wrote:
> 
> On 11.20 2010 16:28, j_baer wrote:
>> * Pallet
>>
>> I made a guess at the pallet.  The GTK theme appears to be Radiance. Is
>> this
>> correct?
>>
>> The inspirational image IMO has the right mix of colors but if this is
>> not
>> good we can certainly find a better image. :-)
> I wouldn't mind knowing more specifically what they want for the pallet. 
> They suggest that we can use colours from images of narwhals, then there 
> is a small pallet of three colours, I made a pallet from the 
> inspirational image using http://www.degraeve.com/color-palette/ and 
> then another pallet that is called the Edubuntu pallet. That makes a 
> very wide range of options.
> 
> Also, could someone offer an example of what they are meaning with this 
> statement "The desired result will be an image which embraces the 
> "light" Ubuntu design concept"?
> 
> What exactly is this design concept?
> 
> Thanks.
> Hrafn
> 
> 

Hrafn,

First of all I love the "Color Palette Generator" site. Thanks for sharing
that as I was using "Color Hunter". The attempt of the first palette is to
simply box in the colors used by the GTK theme or colors of the community (
viz. Orange = Ubuntu ). 

The inspirational image is to provide a greater breathe to the palette.

I am transparent to the "light" Ubuntu design concept. :-) If it doesn't
make sense to the Edubuntu community then let's drop it. I would suggest the
same argument can be made with "Natty". 

I modified the wiki to reflect your comments.

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Wallpaper

2010-11-20 Thread j_baer

Jonathan,

Thank you for posting this request to the project board. I took the liberty
of creating an  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-6 updated spec 
but I have a few questions. :-)

* Target Audience

Is the target audience young school age children or the class room?

* The successful design will be accepted in the Scalable Vector Graphics (
"svg" ) format.

There may be folks who prefer to use GIMP is "svg" really desired?

* The desktop will be Gnome

What is this correct?

* Due 01/17/2011

Generally artwork arrives later in the release cycle, somewhere between user
interface freeze and beta.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule

* Pallet

I made a guess at the pallet.  The GTK theme appears to be Radiance. Is this
correct?

The inspirational image IMO has the right mix of colors but if this is not
good we can certainly find a better image. :-)

* Logo

Does someone have a "svg" of the new logo? 

* Repository

I went ahead and created a flickr group to show case submissions. Artist
will upload submissions to their photo stream and then post it to the group.
If you will create a flickr account I will set you up as an admin to this
group.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-6/

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] The Brickyard - Week of 11/19/2010

2010-11-19 Thread j_baer

The following is a summary of Artwork Team activity for the week of
11/19/2010 :-)

* Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com *

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-4 Request 4  on the project
board. This topic received the most discussion and brain storming. As a
result, Ivanka from the Design Team decided to place this task on hold
pending further review and advice from the author of
"screensh...@debian.net".

* Nucleus Meeting Called *

As a result of the renewed activity of the Team, Martin Owens ( "doctorno" )
scheduled an IRC meeting to discuss topics such as leadership, grievance,
and other processes of the team.

11/26 - 16:00 UTC on the IRC

* Xubuntu and Edubuntu Natty Wallpapers *

The Xubuntu and Edubuntu communities posted requests to the project board
for wallpaper submissions. If I remember correctly, there was a thread some
time back where many members indicated creating wallpapers was their
interest.

I believe this is an excellent opportunity for the team!

* Artwork Team Logo Update *

The submissions are still being posted and the quality and creativity is
excellent. Thank you!  The deadline is closing in (12/01) but there is still
time for more ideas and submissions. As I stated before this is a high
visibility icon which will add value to the team and the community. Don't be
shy. :-)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-1/ Submissions 

* Personal Note of Gratitude *

I could not have been more pleased to see a post on the LibreOffice list
which praised the guidance given by Thorsten to that community. Unsolicited
comments like this are a true indicator of the talented membership of this
team. 

Thank you Thorsten and members for contributing your time and talent to the
Ubuntu community.

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[ubuntu-art] Need Help with Wallpaper Spec

2010-11-18 Thread j_baer

Hello Everyone,

This is very exciting! We have requests to create submissions for the
default wallpaper for Edubuntu and Xubuntu. At this point in time it makes
sense IMO to create a spec which will assist artists prepare great
submissions.

Here are the bullet points that come to my mind.

* Single image for all resolutions ( viz. aspect ratio independent )

* "png" file format

* 1900 x 1200 dimensions { ? }

* CC license

* Suggested palette

* Theming suggestions

I feel like I am missing things.

Help!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] On hold: Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com

2010-11-18 Thread j_baer


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> I don't think this is a big piece of work but it is too important to be 
> building it on a bunch of unsubstantiated assumptions.
> 
> Let's wait until I hear back and then we can pick it up again.
> 
> Ivanka
> 

+1 Thank you!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com

2010-11-18 Thread j_baer


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> The wiki page is somewhat off the mark but I didn't want to edit without 
> discussing with you why.
> 


The following comments may be more a * brain dump * than anything else. :-) 

I do not know the intent or the desired outcome of the authors of
"screenshots.debian.net", but drawing a conclusion from the URL I assume the
desire was to offer Debian users a method to showcase their desktop.

The Ubuntu Software Centre desires to offer an enhanced user experience by
providing information about products which will assist the user in
determining the suitability of an offering to their needs. Although
“screenshots.debian.net” is a good match, it’s not a perfect match. 

* The most pressing issue is screenshots may not be current and reflect what
is being offered. In addition, there is no easy method (?) to expire an
image and/or contact the submitter.

* There is the unknown of appropriate content and this is managed. I realize
“someone” reviews content at "screenshots.debian.net" but the approval
process is unclear.

* The Software Centre is package centric and in reality a package may be an
aggregate of several functional deliverables. Theme packages are a good
example of this.

* In today’s world a graphic image is just one way to deliver information.
The current solution does not support alternatives such as videos in the
form of a screen cast.

* Last, what is the impact to Ubuntu if "screenshots.debian.net" is
unavailable?

All of this leads me to believe building something new may be better than
fixing something old. In addition there is a need from this team for an
image repository. The title “Ubuntu Media Center” comes to mind. :-)

Something tells me if we design it, someone will build it.

Just some thoughts.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-17 Thread j_baer


Saleel Velankar wrote:
> 
> Okay I thought I could put this together, but clearly I was wrong. I need
> some help. After reading John's post "Adding a Task to the Project Board."
> I
> am asking for feedback on the following:
> 
> Xubuntu is lightweight, and focuses on a more traditional desktop
> experience. It uses blues as the color scheme (also a traditional color).
> (#FFF,#203b66,#2c5aa0)
> 
> The traditional desktop experience is what will pick up more users for
> xubuntu as ubuntu moves into unity and gnome moves into shell. SO our
> wallpaper should reflect this by following some older traditions of
> ubuntu.
> Traditions like featuring the animal in the wallpaper. The plus is that we
> tend to get a bunch of animal wallpapers anyways, and this would just be
> about getting the correct composition/color sheme for consideration. The
> negative is that people tend to focus a lot on the animal, and abandon any
> sense of taste.
> 
> So what should I do?
> 
> 
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Saleel,

Thank you for adding this to the project board. I created a * very draft * 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-7 spec on the wiki  for your
consideration.

IMO the artist will want to know the theme, palette, and things such as
image size and file format. The other important item is aspect ratio. 

I am assuming you want one image for all use cases.

I would leave the other design choices open as you may be pleasantly
surprised by the creativity of the submissions.

Thoughts?

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com

2010-11-17 Thread j_baer

Ivanka,


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> I had a look at the wiki page yesterday and was hoping to catch you on 
> IRC to discuss it - when might you be around?
> 
Gladly.  I am east coast US which gives you a 5 hour jump on my day. :-)  I
do not have IRC availability during the day but I am happy to ping you
before I head out.  



> The wiki page is somewhat off the mark but I didn't want to edit without 
> discussing with you why. When might you be available for an IRC chat?
> 

I was unclear of the desired outcome so the wiki has "alot" guessing on my
part. Based on the comments of this thread is sounds like desire is to
re-brand the debian site to a Ubuntu look and feel. I assume the debian site
will remain unaltered. The task IMO is mostly updating the "CSS" and adding
Ubuntu assets ( sounds like folks are ready to help ). 

If the above is correct, do we have a place in launchpad where folks can
check out and check in code,

and ...

would you like mock ups attached to the wiki or submitted elsewhere?

Best regards,

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Nucleus Meeting Confirmed

2010-11-16 Thread j_baer



DoctorMO wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone,
> 
> The meeting will be on the 26th of November 2010 at 16:00 UTC, I've
> attached a cal file for everyone who can import them and have their
> calendar do the time zone magic.
> 
> Agenda:
> 
>  * Leadership 
>  * Grievance
> 
> Quick Agenda
>  * Promotion - What is considered good promotion and what is not.
>  * Organization - How we define what work needs to be done.
>  * Submissions - How we are currently accepting submissions.
> 
> 

Martin,

Thanks for setting this up.

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[ubuntu-art] Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com

2010-11-16 Thread j_baer

Ivanka,

I believe this task is to the point where your advice is required. The team
can certainly bounce around some design ideas if that is your desire.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-4 Specification 

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[ubuntu-art] Welcome Matthieu

2010-11-15 Thread j_baer

Please welcome Matthieu James as a new member to the Artwork Team. Matthieu
is the artist behind the popular "Faenza Icons" and the "Equinox Ubuntu
Themes".

Matthieu, it's a great team and a great community.

Welcome!

John


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[ubuntu-art] Having Fun with Pictograms

2010-11-15 Thread j_baer

Hey Everyone,

The Artwork Team logo submissions are looking very good! Thank you for your
submissions but there is time for more. 

Borrowing from the Design Team I added these.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1025/5180350536_8bbf5f0f2c_o.jpg Artwork Team
Pictogram Logo 1 

and

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1002/5180350562_0d7145d23d_o.jpg Artwork Team
Pictogram Logo 2 

Don't be afraid to try something new!

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-art] LibreOffice - An Open Apology

2010-11-15 Thread j_baer

David, 

The desire of the Ubuntu community is to assist the LibreOffice community as
best as we can. The negative comments expressed by some do not represent the
community at large. 

Although frustrating to some, in the world of open source you do the best
you can with the resources available. Surprisingly it works out very well.
:-)

If the desire of the LibreOffice community is to engage artistic submissions
as a contest I am willing to offer my submissions and encourage others to do
the same.

The spec on the wiki is draft waiting your review and comment and as I
stated earlier to your list, folks will need direction on how to post
submissions. The desired tool is your call.

For the members who participate on this team may I remind you that your
actions are to always reflect the Ubuntu code of conduct and to represent
the community in the best possible manner. Anything less is unacceptable.

Best regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Survey

2010-11-15 Thread j_baer


DoctorMO wrote:
> 
> Hey J_Baer,
> 
> Each time I've tried to paste you the link, we seem to miss each other
> on IRC.
> 
> Here you go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityReview/Sep2010/Art
> 
> Although responses were very muted so there isn't much data.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 18:33 -0800, j_baer wrote:
>> Vish - Martin - Thorsten,
>> 
>> There was talk at UDS about doing a community survey. Any thoughts on how
>> we
>> can make this happen?
>> 
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>> 
> 

Martin,

Thank you for putting this together. Sadly, my experience on the IRC has
been terrible. It seems just when I start a dialogue something happens which
pulls me away. :/

Hopefully this will improve over time.

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[ubuntu-art] New Unity Logo Proposal

2010-11-14 Thread j_baer

> In my opinion the current icon (
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unity_Logo.svg) is too plain.
> Actually, the more I look at it, the more I like it, but the first
> impression is dreadful. The logos proposed in this thread might me not
> enough symbolic. I'd prefer a simple and symbolic logo, like the one
> Ubuntu
> has now. A fierce competition between Unity and GNOME Shell will start
> very
> soon and a good logo will positively influence Unity adoption.
>
> Respectfully,
> --
> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff

I'm starting this a new thread ( compiz/unity) as we really have two topics
here. The stated desire is the Artwork Team creates a new logo for Unity as
a proposal for the Design Team.

Thoughts?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] compiz/unity

2010-11-14 Thread j_baer


coz wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:05 PM, j_baer  wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> coz wrote:
>> >
>> > Having seen these,, i thought at least I could better the original ones
>> I
>> > submitted;
>> >
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu3.svg
>> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu2.svg
>> >
>> > I believe that Сергей; should also get credit for these as well.
>> > I dont want to forget  a contributor named  graphfreak who origianlly
>> > designed the newer compiz logo/icon from which these were  taken
>> >
>> > coz
>> >
>> >
>>
>> coz,
>>
>> These are good but somewhere along the way I missed the reason for this.
>>
>> Are these submissions proposals? If so, for whom?
>>
>> BTW: Don't forget the Artwork Team logo task. :-)
>>
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> 
> Hey John,
>  These are ideas for compiz/unity.. no one proposed them... well...other
> than myself. however,
> considering that unity now has compiz as backend,  I felt it needed a new
> logo/icon.
>   So, essentially I am asking that these be considered as the compiz/unity
> logo/icon.
> 
> coz
> 
> 

Coz,

Thank you you for taking the initiative. Justing * thinking out loud *, IMO
we need to make contact with the owners of the current icon to discover if
they are agreeable to a change. The response may be yes, yes with additional
changes, or no.

If the response is * yes with additional changes * my desire would be to add
it to the project board, create a "spec", and open it up for submissions.

Thoughts?

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[ubuntu-art] LibreOffice Update

2010-11-14 Thread j_baer

Hello Everyone,

The LibreOffice marketing list is very active and I do not know of the
numerous ideas being proposed what will stick. 

It is my understanding they want to open the logo design for submissions and
this will be handled as a contest from their wiki. I do not expect specific
tasks to this team as their membership spans many different communities.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas

I would be remiss if I did not say this is a very good opportunity and I
will attempt to keep the list apprised of developments as they occur.

I am aware other Artwork Team members subscript to this list so if I miss
something please post.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Possible tasks

2010-11-14 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 17:26 -0800, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> As we haven't received  a request from the "Ubuntu-Brainstorm" community
>> to
>> provide updated artwork I view Thorwil's work ( very nice ) as a
>> proposal.
>> 
>> I would love to see this offered to others on the team who may also have
>> good ideas to submit.
>> 
>> This is an excellent example of the risk of a proposal as Thorwil's work
>> is
>> dated 07/17/2010 and the site is still unchanged.
> 
> 
> There was no request, but it was clear the logo/header would need an
> update to match the new visual identity. As the creator of the current
> solution, I felt responsible.
> 
> A slightly refined version of one of the drafts in my blog post has been
> selected and has the approval of Nicolas Deschildre (creator of the
> Brainstorm site) and of Marcus Haslam ("Brand lead", Design Team).
> 
> As far as I know, steps have been taking for replacement, but I have no
> clue what is holding this back, still.
> 
> While you would love to see this offered to others, it would piss me off
> to no end ;)
> There are enough other tasks, including a complete theme for the
> Brainstorm site. Before tackling that, responsibilities and process
> regarding site updates have to be cleared up. Note that I'm not keen on
> doing the theme, I would be glad if others handled that (except for the
> logo, of course).
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> thorwil's design for free software:
> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
> 
> 

Thorsten,

There is no criticism toward you as your submissions and contributions to
the community are always very good.  If Nicolas and Marcus are satisfied (
and I believe they are ) this task is complete and thank you for taking the
initiative. 

The team today compared to the team last July is as different as night and
day. I echo your comments about the other tasks at hand as my concern going
forward is there will be too much work.

I must confess working as a team is difficult. There is "pride of ownership"
which must be shared and there is constant change which is sometimes
difficult to accept.

I have no delusions of grandeur and I realize there will be challenges (
viz. wiki ). We must all realize and accept the team is greater than sum of
its members and if it is working correctly any team member may step out or
step in without causing harm to the whole.

In summary there are no bounties to be paid other than personal satisfaction
and recognition for your contributions. I can't help with the first but I'm
working on the later. :-) 

All I can say to everyone who contributes is thank you as this is how it
works.

Respectfully,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] compiz/unity

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer



coz wrote:
> 
> Having seen these,, i thought at least I could better the original ones I
> submitted;
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu3.svg
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu2.svg
> 
> I believe that Сергей; should also get credit for these as well.
> I dont want to forget  a contributor named  graphfreak who origianlly
> designed the newer compiz logo/icon from which these were  taken
> 
> coz
> 
> 

coz,

These are good but somewhere along the way I missed the reason for this.

Are these submissions proposals? If so, for whom?

BTW: Don't forget the Artwork Team logo task. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 07:49 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>> 
>> I have tasked to get a icon for a new team being set up by the
>> Ubuntu-bugsquad mentoring program. The team will be called the
>> bugsquad-mentor-teamA . This team will be set up to test a new concept
>> in mentoring bugsquad applicants. This will be a three-month test. If
>> the test proves beneficial to the bugsquad, more teams will be created.
>> 
>> I believe this should be a logo, that
>> can be used by this team specifically, to show a relationship between a
>> mentor and a mentee. It also will need the A on it to designate that
>> this is team A. This logo will be used on the launchpad team page and
>> bugsqad wiki pages.
>> 
>> Can you help me with this? Do you need more information? (by the way, I
>> am not an artist, but only the person that seems to know where to go
>> for help).
>> 
>> - -- 
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>> Linux Registered User Number 425914  [http://counter.li.org/]
>> Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
> 
> Hi,
> I'v added it to the tasks list:
> 
> 
> iirc, there was once a icon/logo proposal for the GNOME bugsquad, but it
> seems to have not been used. Not sure what happened to that..
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Vish
> 
> 

Thanks Vish! Do you want to lead this one?

I can help with the spec and create submissions.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Icon for Ubuntu-bugsquad

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer


aamiraarfi syed wrote:
> 
> off topic ---  notAspam
> I have made some wallpapers for ubuntu -- wanted to share with you guys
> Check out my flickr account
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/54509...@n03/5169598203/lightbox/
> did u guys like it?
> 
> 

My favorite is ubuntu-rising. :-)  Stay tuned as wallpaper submissions are
coming.

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[ubuntu-art] Community Survey

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer

Vish - Martin - Thorsten,

There was talk at UDS about doing a community survey. Any thoughts on how we
can make this happen?

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[ubuntu-art] Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer

Ivanka,

A *draft* spec is posted for your consideration.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-4 Screenshots @ Ubuntu.com 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] LoCo getting new logo.

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer


Maitraya Bhattacharyya wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The Ubuntu-in LoCo is getting a new logo. We have created a poll and would
> like all Ubuntu artists to select your favourite logo. Please feel free to
> voice your opinion and do vote here at:* *
> http://openfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/ubuntu-india-new-logo/ or
> http://polldaddy.com/poll/4079461/
> 
> Thanks and please vote.
> 
> Maitraya.
> launchpad.net/~maitraya-bhattacharyya
> Ubuntu-in site admin.
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Maitraya,

All the submissions look very good but it is difficult to vote with out
knowing what the desired outcome should express. 

Please help us define our identity by posting submissions for our new logo.
:-)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-1 Artwork Team Logo Specs 

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Possible tasks

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer


Vishnoo-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> thorwil did the original logo and not sure how many here remember he has
> already re-done the logo for the new branding.
> 
> 
> Site just needs updating.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Vish
> 
> 
Vish,

As we haven't received  a request from the "Ubuntu-Brainstorm" community to
provide updated artwork I view Thorwil's work ( very nice ) as a proposal.

I would love to see this offered to others on the team who may also have
good ideas to submit.

This is an excellent example of the risk of a proposal as Thorwil's work is
dated 07/17/2010 and the site is still unchanged.

John





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[ubuntu-art] Wiki Update

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer

Hello,

The suspected problem with the Wiki is identified as we are running a dated
version with limited support for Xapian indexing. Canonical is advised and
is reviewing alternatives.

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[ubuntu-art] Adding a Task to the Project Board

2010-11-13 Thread j_baer

The work we perform may be classified as either a request or a proposal. The
two are identical with the following exceptions. 

1. A request originates from the community
2. A proposal originates from the team
3. A proposal has more risk as it may be rejected by the community

Attached to every request or proposal should be a specification or "spec".
The spec informs team members who are interested in contributing what needs
to be done. It may also serve as the criteria for acceptance ( does the
submission satisfy the spec ). In agile development I often say "define
don't assign".

The question is when should a task be added to the 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks project board ? 

Requests

- Requests from the community may be added upon receipt as long as they have
a sponsor.

-- If the spec is missing, set the status to "Waiting spec"

-- If unassigned, leave assigned blank

Proposals

- I suggest proposals be discussed on the mailing list first and when there
is agreement to proceed, add it to the project board. In the case of a
proposal, the team member or the team is the sponsor.

-- Proposal specs should be complete before posting to the project board

-- In many cases with proposals, assigned is the same as sponsor

Solicitation for Advice

Generally requests for advice are best suited for the mailing list. If the
discussion evolves into the creation of mock ups or performing research, it
may be wise to post a task to the project board and create a spec as we did
with the "Ubuntu Forums" request.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Possible tasks

2010-11-12 Thread j_baer


Сергей-33 wrote:
> 
>> 2. update Ubuntu brainstorm look and feel
>>
>> ** This community site is run on ideatorrent software. This request
>> should
>> come from the community as it may involve some coding.
> 
> Actually, it does: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26349/
> 

I posted a comment 11/12 for guidance.



>> 3. update and improve hwdb.ubuntu.com look
>>
>> ** Agreed, who runs this site?
> 
> I couldn't find who runs it, but there's a page for submitting
> offline-generated results in Launchpad
> (https://edge.launchpad.net/+hwdb/+submit), so I guess we should ask
> some LP developers, they must know who runs it.
> 

Would you follow up on this?



>> 4. design a better unity logo
>>
>> ** Who is the author?
> I don't know who exactly created it, but I think Canonical design team
> is in charge for that.
> 

I am unclear of the logo, can you direct me to an example? :-) 

If the Design is Team is the owner of this asset, we will need to forward
this request to them with suggestions for improvement.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Possible tasks

2010-11-12 Thread j_baer


Сергей-33 wrote:
> 
>- update checkbox-gtk header with the new Ubuntu logo
>- update checkbox-gtk header with the new Ubuntu logo
>- update Ubuntu brainstorm look and feel
>- update and improve hwdb.ubuntu.com look
>- design a better unity logo (?)
> Where shall I put it? Shall I report bugs in Launchpad and tag them
> 'needs-artwork'? Or shall I edit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks?
> 

Sergey,

Thank you for the proposals. We should discuss these further before adding
them as tasks for the team.

1. update checkbox-gtk header with the new Ubuntu logo

** Is this the Ubuntu application testing tool?

2. update Ubuntu brainstorm look and feel

** This community site is run on ideatorrent software. This request should
come from the community as it may involve some coding.

3. update and improve hwdb.ubuntu.com look

** Agreed, who runs this site?

4. design a better unity logo

** Who is the author?

Thank you again for bringing these to our attention.

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[ubuntu-art] Nabble2

2010-11-10 Thread j_baer

Hey Everyone,

Does it make sense to request moving the Ubuntu mailing list archives to the
new Nabble2 site? Apparently all it takes is to submit a request.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] screenshots.ubuntu.com

2010-11-10 Thread j_baer


Ivanka Majic wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 1) At UDS we talked about me putting out 'briefs' in a place where 
> everyone could pick them up.
> 2) I have put a brief up here: 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/buttons/+bug/673488
> 
> Questions:
> - does this work for everyone?
> - should I assign them to a different project so that people can access 
> them more readily?
> 
> This approach fits into my normal workflow so, from a purely selfish 
> point of view I would like to pursue this approach. For now, I suggest 
> posting the briefs to this artlist and then people can elect to subscribe.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Ivanka
> 
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> 
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Ivanka,

This is certainly a project that would add value to Ubuntu and the
community. I find it awkward using Launchpad bug tracking in this manner but
with a blend of wiki maybe this will work. :-)

IMO it needs a blueprint which can be linked to the specification.

I am willing to draft a specification with milestones for your
consideration. I don't know what the requirements are but we can discuss
that in a future dialog.

I will also include assumptions as discussion points. 

I can have v1 of the spec ready by 11/15 or sooner for your consideration.

Is this agreeable?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Forums need design assistance

2010-11-02 Thread j_baer


Jef van Schendel wrote:
> 
> 2010/11/2 Ivanka Majic 
> 
>> Mike Bassinger has been working on improving the design of Ubuntu Forums
>> and bringing them in line with the new visual identity. Would someone
>> like
>> to get involved? I will be here for backup and help if required and I
>> would
>> love to work with someone to help Mike. Who is up for it?
>>
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm new here but I'd be glad to help with the Forums redesign. What kind
> of
> help do you need, Mike?
> 
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jef,

Thank you for offering to assist. Our process would have Mike prepare a
specification. Give me a couple of days to follow up.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork "Light" Wiki Mockup

2010-10-31 Thread j_baer


DoctorMO wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/people/jbaer
>> 
>> We have some work to do here. :)
> 
> I've done the smallest amount of work to support the projects we have in
> the required ways. Other than that it's not good time to fix it up more.
> IMO.
> 
> I'll be working some more on our django project, some code etc and I
> hope daker, thorwil and others want to continue looking into the design
> and production of the website with me.
> 
> 

Martin,

I am willing to jump in and help but I am confused. 

Is ccHost going away to be replaced by django?

I was also playing around with Flickr and although not a perfect fit, it is
heavy used by Artist.

One thought I had was using flickr groups.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/1507...@n25/

BTW: The wiki hit the wall while I was editing this page and it is now
locked from use. :/

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/Artwork/Specs/Request-1

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork "Light" Wiki Mockup

2010-10-31 Thread j_baer


DoctorMO wrote:
> 
> Hey John,
> 
> On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 21:21 -0400, John Baer wrote:
>> I completed a "proof of concept" Artwork Wiki site based on the new
>> light theme [ not fully functional :) ].
> 
> So these processes and tools are the tools we're going to use for this
> cycle to develop our design research on the art/design website task?
> 
> We may end up jettersoning the wiki altogether, we certainly won't end
> up using ccHost I don't think since it's php. But what ever we use I
> think for this cycle we need to be aware of how temporary and transitory
> our situation is.
> 
>> Submission and submission comments could be handle by ccHost {?}.
>> 
>> http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/people/jbaer
>> 
>> We have some work to do here. :)
> 
> I've done the smallest amount of work to support the projects we have in
> the required ways. Other than that it's not good time to fix it up more.
> IMO.
> 
> I'll be working some more on our django project, some code etc and I
> hope daker, thorwil and others want to continue looking into the design
> and production of the website with me.
> 
> Martin,
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Hey Martin,

Thanks for the quick response. The problem as I see it is we need something
now and we need something better as soon as possible. AFAIK the Wiki is the
only tool we can use now. 

Admittedly it suffers from performance issues and others but these need to
be fixed and I have submitted bug reports.

I am transparent to the final solution but from a support perspective I
suggest we adopt something similar to what is being used elsewhere ( such as
"ask.ubuntu" ). 

My dream is we can work on process improvements and technology improvements
at the same time and the goal of "light" is to improve process. :)

In your opinion what would be a good repository for submissions now ( wiki,
flickr, foopics ) ? 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo

2010-09-30 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 14:19 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> I would like to see an updated Artwork Team logo for the Wiki that could
>> also serve as a badge on other sites (launchpad?).
> 
>> I suggest we start with a Wiki page to capture submissions and provide
>> guidance to the effort. 
> 
> 
> Flat approach
> =
> 
> I'd like to try a flat approach, instead.
> 
> Everyone who wants to participate can put PNG files up on
> http://www.foopics.com/
> and post a link to the uploaded image here (replying to this mail).
> 
> 
> Tools
> =
> 
> Start with pen or pencil on paper, don't hesitate to present rough
> sketches.
> 
> Once you go to the computer, Inkscape is the preferred tool. In any
> case, we will need an SVG file as final result.
> 
> 
> Goals
> =
> 
> Focus on an idea/concept for a symbol, first. Ignore type, as we will
> just set "Artwork Team" using the new Ubuntu font.
> 
> Primary goal is to express that this is about artwork/creativity.
> Secondary that it is related to Ubuntu and derivatives (Kubuntu,
> Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Lubuntu, ...).
> 
> One way to express the relation to Ubuntu is to pick up the basic
> geometry of the Circle of Friends logo. But don't just modify it, rather
> play with the circle divided by three or equilateral triangle concept.
> 
> 
> Style
> =
> 
> Looking at the visual identity of Ubuntu as executed on
> http://www.ubuntu.com/ we should prefer filled shapes and a 2-tone
> approach (orange/white). However, we could consider another color than
> orange and/or an extended palette (3 or 4 colors) for our own
> sub-identity.
> 
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Thorsten,

Thank you for the guidance. I was not aware of "foopics.com" but I uploaded
an image to test the process and I support the tool as it is very easy to
use.

My Test Image (Wallpaper):
http://www.foopics.com/show/eb075ab70e77d410493634f856206380

If anyone has an opinion why re-branding this team is a bad idea I would
really like to hear it. At the very least we need to come into alignment
with the new Ubuntu branding standards.

Otherwise, let's post some ideas to "foopics" and talk about it here.

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[ubuntu-art] Artwork Team Logo

2010-09-29 Thread j_baer

Hello Everyone,

I would like to see an updated Artwork Team logo for the Wiki that could
also serve as a badge on other sites (launchpad?).

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork

I suggest the image embrace the possibility this team will support Ubuntu
and the broader "ecosystem".

I blogged on this topic here: http://www.projblog.com/?p=1803

I suggest we start with a Wiki page to capture submissions and provide
guidance to the effort. 

Thorsten, will you create a page for this purpose? We also need to put some
structure around this effort (size, file type,
colors, etc). This could become a part of the guidance displayed on the
page. Perhaps the Count Down Wiki page can serve as a template or the Ubuntu
branding guidelines can help.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MaverickCountdownBanner
http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/

I know we have the talent, so don't be shy. If you are new to the list
here's a chance to make a difference!

For the moment let's not get consumed on how we will decide on the final
candidate. We can work that process on a separate thread.

UDS is 10/25-29 - it would be great to have something to show by then.

Thoughts?

John





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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ruby on Rails skill on this list? (was: Owl's ccHost Website)

2010-09-21 Thread j_baer



Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 14:12 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> It sounds like most agree the Wiki is not a good solution for our
>> purpose.
> 
> Just acceptable for documentation, but not suitable for managing
> artwork.
> 
> 
>> The Design Hub which is available from Live Gnome (
>> http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/DesignHub ) looks
>> interesting but may require additional development work.
> 
> Are people familiar with Ruby on Rails around? It looks like the effort
> stopped in March. Could someone set up a (local) instance to see how far
> developed it is and report here?
> 
> 
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Thanks Thorsten,

+1 !  I pinged Isotope 11 but have not heard back.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Owl's ccHost Website

2010-09-20 Thread j_baer



Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 10:56 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> As I look to our friends at Fedora and openSuse as far as I can tell they
>> still use a Wiki for collaboration. Are we missing something or do they
>> know
>> something we should?
> 
> You could ask them ;)
> 
> Máirín Duffy from Fedora is or has been looking for something better:
> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/03/26/design-hub-update/
> 
> Both projects might be using a wiki without a nasty surge protection?
> Though I doubt they have automatic thumbnail generation or WYSIWYG
> editing (things I see as a must to have more of a tool and less of a
> barrier).
> 
> 
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It sounds like most agree the Wiki is not a good solution for our purpose.
The Design Hub which is available from Live Gnome (
http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/Whiteboard/DesignHub ) looks
interesting but may require additional development work.

What are the chances we could leverage this effort into our infrastructure
solution? Can we call out for developers? If the answer is no, what other
solution holds the most promise. We have the solution proposed by Martin.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Owl's ccHost Website

2010-09-20 Thread j_baer



DoctorMO wrote:
> 
> Full information:
> 
> ccHost is a PHP based system and for svg uploads it had a couple of
> holes, so we had to fix them. The site works from skins and that may
> need fixing too to make it all nice.
> 
> We've cleverly committed it all to a bzr branch so if you'd like to play
> with your own instance and commit fixes, you can:
> 
> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~owlers/ubuntu-learning-materials/art-website
> 
> You can also use GroundControl to download the project.
> 
> Martin,
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Thanks Martin,

As I look to our friends at Fedora and openSuse as far as I can tell they
still use a Wiki for collaboration. Are we missing something or do they know
something we should?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions

2010-09-20 Thread j_baer



Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> 
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> 
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:16:08 +0530
> Vishnoo  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 12:12 -0400, Saleel Velankar wrote:
>> > I am glad to see that others also seem to think that the death of this
>> > list is a problem. This thread is for discussing how to get back on
>> > track.
>> > 
>> 
>> Another problem is that if we discuss just here , then the
>> replies/solutions get lost in the archives.
>> 
>> Lets also summarize here : 
>> 
>> > Problem #1
>> > There are far too many people on this list that never seem to post.
>> > Solution:
>> > Trim the list to contributors only, only those that post and
>> > contribute regularly.
>> > 
>> 
>> I have also had the same idea but I dont think this is a feasible idea.
>> People will want to ask questions, like how the installer question was
>> asked a few days ago.
>> 
>> We can leave this mailing list as it is? maybe?
>> 
>> What we could do is to make the lp team moderated
>> 
>> 
>> And people can get added there once they state their intent.
>> 
>> Any work in Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu will only be included from
>> Launchpad. So its better if the lp team was restricted to contributors.
>> 
>> 
>> > Problem #6
>> > We no longer have any direction of what to do.
>> > Solution:
>> > This entirely depends on #4 and the skillsets we can tap on this list.
>> > At the very least, we start off small and create a community set of
>> > wallpapers, as well as alpha and beta wallpapers. Lets find out who to
>> > annoy to get this done. How would you feel if community artwork had an
>> > overarching loose theme, say “Humanity” or “Narwhals”?
>> 
>> We can get this done , i dint want to push this too much since i wanted
>> to test the waters here first.. ;)
>> 
>> As I mentioned, I had been planning this for a while now, and
>>  is a consolidate of my
>> interaction with other teams. I had nearly given up because there seemed
>> to be lack of interest from others. And I was being told it might be
>> just in vain.
>> 
>> Its not just Ubuntu. There are other derivatives we can help too! 
>> 
>> Xubuntu *for sure* wants help with their artwork!
>> I believe the Xubuntu team has now subscribed to this mailing list too..
>> Let's hear a reply from them directly as well.. :)
>> 
> 
> I have been silent because it seemed the list only wants to hear from
> the artists themselves. I requested help with Xubuntu artwork, and we
> still want and need help. Unfortunately, the call for artwork to both
> the Ubuntu community and DeviantArt resulted in few replies from
> artists. 
> 
> If the list became "active contributors" only, how would you expect
> anyone else to ever become active? To maintain an active list, you need
> new contributors that can actually become a part of the community. If
> Ubuntu is not accepting artwork, the derivatives certainly are. Ubuntu
> Studio, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu will all accept help with
> artwork, if you are willing to help us. Xubuntu, at least, does not
> have it's own artwork team at this time, and would accept a team leader
> as well as members to work with that leader. 
> 
> 
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Too easily we see Ubuntu as a single product and for that I apologize. What
ever the out-come here that needs to be fixed.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions

2010-09-20 Thread j_baer



Saleel Velankar wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> 
>>
>> Do most folks on the list know this? Should more be done? Maybe change
>> the list name to: "ubuntu-community-art"?
>>
>>
>> -Cory K.
>>
>>
> Hey Cory! I agree that name needs to change, especially now that canonical
> has an official team. Also do you guys agree with doing #4, a sort of
> unofficial census of who we have on this list?
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Saleel & Cory,

Coming up with a resource list is a good idea but the question becomes who
is going to maintain it and how will the information be used?

Changing names is also a slippery path. Should we seek ways to further
separate us from the Canonical design team or find ways to bring us
together?

My preference is to work more closely. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Solutions

2010-09-20 Thread j_baer



DoctorMO wrote:
> 
> Hey Art Team,
> 
> On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 23:16 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
>> Trim the list to contributors only, only those that post and
>> > contribute regularly. 
> 
> I would _highly_ advise against trimming a community, so long as the
> silent majority are doing no harm to the work, it's better that they be
> informed and able to jump into giving their 0.1% at the right time, then
> shunned and never able to.
> 
> Don't cut off the long tail.
> 
> The problem with most communities being inactive is that there are not
> the two kinds of projects which motivate people:
> 
>  1) Fun and very passive contribution which comes at random from
> contributors. You can see this sort of project on the dA group where we
> don't instruct or organise art to be made using ubuntu, we just
> passively let people contribute to the galleries which have a simple and
> light framework of rules.
> 
> 2) Structured and focused projects. You'll need time limits, methods of
> contribution which are split up effectively into chunks, you need some
> education and most importantly you'll need about 3 people who will
> contribute the majority of the work. You'll get about 100 people
> contribution 45% in drabs, but they won't do anything without that %55
> from the dedicated few.
> 
> These are just some thoughts based on my own experiences with
> communities.
> 
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
> 
> P.S. We have a testbed ccHost for artworks and media pieces which might
> be worth some attention as a location to upload content.
> http://art.ubuntu-owl.org/ which has been experimented with.
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Martin,

More explanation about the art.ubuntu-owl.org site may be in order. One of
the process breaks IMO we need to fix is just having things show up. That
has not worked well in the past.

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Crunch Time

2010-08-25 Thread j_baer


Andrew SB wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:09 PM, j_baer  wrote:
>>
>> We are fast approaching the time when community themes need to be in
>> their
>> final form. I plan to test next week against a fresh Maverick install and
>> report my findings.
>>
>> I'm not sure what version of Murrine will make the cut but I am assuming
>> the
>> "Murrine Daily Build" will be the source. I had some trouble installing
>> this
>> version in Maverick today.
> 
> The current version in Maverick is 0.90.3+git20100810-0ubuntu1
> 
>>
>> I also notice some folks posted themes in the "Ubuntu Artist" area of
>> deviantART. I will drop them a note to see if they have some interest in
>> Community Themes as there was a lot of process change this release and
>> there
>> may be some confusion. :)
>>
> 
> Most of the submissions on the wiki are actually tweaks to the default
> light-themes. I don't think they are really appropriate for the
> community-themes package. As we've already past feature freeze and
> beta/UI freeze is tomorrow, I'm not sure if we're going to see any
> real changes to the package this time around. We can still continue
> pushing fixes to the current themes though.
> 
> The lack of submissions is most likely due to the fact that we didn't
> really promote the process this cycle. But there is also the fact that
> people seem to generally be much more satisfied by the new default
> themes. This team/list has also just been very quiet this cycle.
> 
> Rather than rushing to just put something new into the
> community-themes package, I think that we might better use this time
> to start brainstorming for the upcoming Natty cycle. Perhaps Natty
> would be a good time to really shake things up, dropping themes that
> haven't continued to evolve and trying to generate more excitement
> with some completely new content.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
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Andrew,

Here is my recommendation.

Ambiance Refined - William Middleton

The wiki page is missing alot of detail although there is a reference to
Ubuntu-Art and it is rated at 72% good. If William can update the wiki as to
why a user may want to consider this theme I'm Ok with this submission -
otherwise no.

Ambiance Blue - Paolo Bianchini

Seems more like a concept than a submission - no.

Ambiancell - luxierayku

Again the wiki page is lacking informaton a user might use when considering
this theme - no.

Finery - Immanuel Peratoner

Ok

Depends on equinox engine. Don't know if that is in the Ubuntu repository?
:|

Impression/Night-Impression Themes - ;)

Ok

Perfection GTK - luxierayku

Ok

Radial - tw

Ok

Salmon - yman

Ok

Simply Basic - William Middleton

Looks like an interesting theme but there is no wiki content to support it -
no.

I pinged a couple of folks on devianART Ubuntu Artist about themes but did
not receive a reply. pr09studio had several.

As there was a lot process change this release some folks may have been
confused and the discussion on the Ayatana thread may have added to the
confusion.

I suggest we go with the six themes and take an action item to discuss what
make the most sense for Natty.

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase

2010-08-19 Thread j_baer

Info for the countdown banner is here.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/MaverickCountdownBanner

:)


"Duy Anh Nguyễn" wrote:
> 
> I have posted my demo idea but i don't know how to create it to image
> file :(
> 
> http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/2360/4d3d13e525f142e6a9728b3a5e41c233.jpg
> or
> http://share.ovi.com/media/MyFanIs.Ubunt/MyFanIs.10022
> 
> 
> 
>> - Tin nhắn gốc -
>> Từ: "j_baer‎" 
>> Đến: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Chủ đề: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase
>> Ngày: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>> Just a reminder of the process changes for the submission of artwork
> for
>> Maverick. :)
>>
>> http://www.canonical.com/news/ubuntu-free-culture-showcase
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase

2010-08-19 Thread j_baer

Just a reminder of the process changes for the submission of artwork for
Maverick. :)

http://www.canonical.com/news/ubuntu-free-culture-showcase

Cheers,

John
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[ubuntu-art] Crunch Time

2010-08-18 Thread j_baer

We are fast approaching the time when community themes need to be in their
final form. I plan to test next week against a fresh Maverick install and
report my findings.

I'm not sure what version of Murrine will make the cut but I am assuming the
"Murrine Daily Build" will be the source. I had some trouble installing this
version in Maverick today.

I also notice some folks posted themes in the "Ubuntu Artist" area of
deviantART. I will drop them a note to see if they have some interest in
Community Themes as there was a lot of process change this release and there
may be some confusion. :)

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] 10.10 Impression GTK Themes

2010-07-06 Thread j_baer



Zachary C. Pletan wrote:
> 
> 
> I saw this via OMG! UBUNTU! a couple of hours ago, and so far, I like 
> what I see after using it for those two hours.  One thing - I noticed 
> that when a window is unfocused, the continuity between the titlebar and 
> menubar disappears.  See attached screenshot.
> 
> Keep up the good work!
> 
> Cheers,
> Zachary
> 
> 

Zachary,

Thanks! An old metacity trick with unfocused windows is to decrease the
opacity. The desired outcome is to keep the focused window well defined and
other windows less defined.

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[ubuntu-art] 10.10 Impression GTK Themes

2010-07-04 Thread j_baer

Hello Everyone,

I'm pleased to announce the availability of the Alpha release of the
Impression and Night Impression 10.10 GTK themes for Maverick Meerkat.

These themes may be tested with either Maverick or Lucid with the latest
Murrine theme engine is installed. 

Packages are available from the 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/ImpressionGtkThemes Ubuntu
Wiki . Screen shots may be viewed at  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/j_baer/sets/72157624409067576/show/ Flickr .

Enhanced Metacity Theme

Metacity code improvements should speed execution and the improved window
control buttons offer simplicity in design with an intuitive approach to
operation.

Re-designed GTK

Many improvements are available from enhancements made to the Murrine GTK
engine providing a level of presentation second to none.

The Impression series uses a gradient scroll bar and progress bar trough
introduced by the Ambiance and Radiance themes. Muted, not bold; scroll bars
are available but not in the way.

Note book tabs are themed to provide a higher level of focus to the selected
tab. Clicking a tab presents an illusion of movement as the selected tab
becomes bright and the others fall to the shadows.

Tool bars maintain a hint of shading to provide a measured amount of depth
to the presentation.

Scale controls follow the same design philosophy as scroll bars as the
slider control button is muted until needed.

Finally, the palette of Impression is the traditional warm gray splashed
with Orange and the palette of Night Impression is a cool gray accentuated
with Aubergine.

Vibrant and exciting these themes deliver a powerful intuitive user
experience and a consistent Ubuntu look and feel.

Enjoy!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-17 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 08:31 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
>> Thorsten, I need your advice on where this page should be located.
> 
> Being the only audience-facing page, it does not fit into any of the
> existing top levels.
> 
> If this page remains the only one of it's kind, it could be 
> /Artwork/CommunityThemes
> But perhaps with a release version attached?
> 
> If there is a realistic chance of similar pages being added, it should
> be /Artwork/Packages/CommunityThemes or
> perhaps /Artwork/Packages/10-04/CommunityThemes
> 
> Thorsten Wilms
> 
> 

As the release is only 11 days away I would like to handle the final
disposition of this as a backlog item to be resolved during the 10.10
development cycle.

http://old.nabble.com/file/p28279426/community-themes.png 

As the current Website link on the Software Center installation form points
to the current wiki page my suggestion is create a new page in
"Artwork/Documentation" title CommunityThemesGuidelines.

Move the content of the current CommunityThemes page to
CommunityThemesGuidelines.

When this is complete update CommunityThemes with the public facing content.

This will resolve the current issue and provide adequate time to plan for
the best long term solution.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-17 Thread j_baer

Hello everyone,

I've completed my vision of the public facing Community Themes wiki page and
would like to replace the content of the current page with the new content. 

My desire in creating this page was to align with the new Ubuntu branding to
the greatest extent possible and to showcase the themes without preference. 

My goal is Ubuntu users who desire to install this package will view this
page to make an informed decision.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I anticipate a new Community Themes page will be created to capture the
essence of the current page.

Thorsten, I need your advice on where this page should be located.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-13 Thread j_baer


Yann Dìnendal wrote:
> 
> Would it be possible to have this package in the "featured" category of
> the
> software center?
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I'm not familiar with the mechanics of identifying a package with a group
and as the RC is close I assume this is a change that will have to wait.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-12 Thread j_baer

I updated the wiki page with another mockup. This approach displays two
screen shots for each theme. I removed the comments to keep the page more
manageable.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-11 Thread j_baer


Zachary C. Pletan wrote:
> 
>> As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
>> current content is just to see how the page flows.
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g.
>> "fish")
>> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
>> welcomed.
> 
> That's a neat-looking font in the logo.  What did you use?
> 
> Thanks,
> zpletan
> 
> 

http://www.fontspace.com/nymphont/caviar-dreams

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-11 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 08:45 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
> OK, so this is meant to be an audience-facing page, unlike the entire
> rest of the Artwork wiki section? What do you think should be the
> path/name in the end?
> 

As it is now, the Software Center link is to:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes

I assume this should not change.



> 
>> - Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not
>> seem
>> to fit.
> 
> I think it is not OK for anything living under
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork to get rid of the navigation header
> (except _maybe_ for pages below a central project page, with their own
> navigation header).
> 
> 

I turned the title bar on and removed the orange strip from the top. IMO the
title bar means little to the typical Ubuntu user but I can live with it.



>> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g.
>> "fish")
>> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
>> welcomed.
> 
> If you really want to match the new look, you should fill the shape and
> not use outlines. the fish tails are not convincing and the eyes are a
> bit large.
> 
> The wide tracking on "Themes" is brutal and entirely unnecessary.
> 

I would welcome other designs. :)



> 
>> If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply
>> screen
>> shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )
> 
> Comments seem out of place on such an overview.
> 
> Perhaps there should be separate links to wiki page and Launchpad (or
> other download) per theme.
> 
> 

My desire is to add value to the user experience. I am trying to think about
this page from a "typical" user perspective and I arrived here from either
the Software Center or some other reference. The question being considered
is "should I install this package"?

Thorsten, thank you for your comments.

John


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-10 Thread j_baer


j_baer wrote:
> 
> As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
> current content is just to see how the page flows.
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
> I must warn you it is different as IMO the audience has changed and the
> requirements.
> 
> New audience - I was pleasantly surprised to see this page linked to the
> installation of the "community-themes" package using the Software Center.
> IMO this is spot on! My vision of the page is informative to the user who
> is interested in installing the package (viz. new requirement).
> 
> At the end of the page I envision a short walk through of the installation
> process targeted toward the new user.
> 
> Issues:
> 
> - What is the desired image sized of the screen shot?  IMO one is enough.
> 
> - Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not
> seem to fit.
> 
> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
> welcomed.
> 
> If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply
> screen shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )
> 
> My desire is to have this complete and ready by the release candidate.
> 
> John
> 
> 

I added some content to the mockup page for your consideration.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I realized as I was putting this together I do not know who the authors are
for these submissions. I used the name posted to the last wiki edit but this
may be incorrect. :/

John


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[ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

2010-04-10 Thread j_baer

As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
current content is just to see how the page flows.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I must warn you it is different as IMO the audience has changed and the
requirements.

New audience - I was pleasantly surprised to see this page linked to the
installation of the "community-themes" package using the Software Center.
IMO this is spot on! My vision of the page is informative to the user who is
interested in installing the package (viz. new requirement).

At the end of the page I envision a short walk through of the installation
process targeted toward the new user.

Issues:

- What is the desired image sized of the screen shot?  IMO one is enough.

- Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not seem
to fit.

- The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
welcomed.

If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply screen
shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )

My desire is to have this complete and ready by the release candidate.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Cleaning up Community Themes

2010-04-08 Thread j_baer



Andrew SB wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Andrew SB  wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Kenneth Wimer  wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 02:13:53 pm j_baer wrote:
>>>> Andrew,
> 
>>>> I know I updated the Impression series to bring it into alignment with
>>>> default and others may have uploaded "last minute" tweaks as well.
> 
>>> This should definitely be updated as it contains a fix for the button
>>> order
>>> changes in Impression.
>>
>> Doing an upload containing these changes is on my to-do list for tonight.
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I just got a chance to review the changes. It sets the icon theme as
> Humanity for Impression. Are you sure that is what is intended?
> Previously, it had been using Humanity-Dark. Night-Impression still
> does as well. As Impression has a black panel, I would think that
> Humanity-Dark would be the better choice.
> 
> Let me know...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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I may have already replied to this late last night but as I don't see it
this morning I will send it again. :)

First - thank you for validating the package. I uploaded to the wiki new tar
files and did a test install this morning to make sure everything is
correct. 

If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.

I plan to work on the wiki this weekend and will have a draft for the team
to review then.

John


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[ubuntu-art] Cleaning up Community Themes

2010-04-07 Thread j_baer

Andrew,

I would like to update the Community Themes wiki page to reflect the
contents of this package. I am assuming there will be one last push (v.23)
between now and RC. :)

I know I updated the Impression series to bring it into alignment with
default and others may have uploaded "last minute" tweaks as well.

My thought is the wiki page should inform those who have an interest in
installing this package what each theme looks like with appropriate comments
describing its features.

Is v.22 the final list of themes for this package? 

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu font

2010-03-27 Thread j_baer


j_baer wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> 
> I noticed in today's update the Plymouth logo reverted back to the
> previous font. Is this the desire for release?
> 
> If not, would it be possible to get a clip of the new ubuntu with black
> text on a transparent background and another with white text? I tried
> gimp-ing images from the web but the quality is not there.
> 
> This would help with other effort such as the countdown banner.
> 
> John
> 

Please discard this post. I was able to find an image from the plymouth
folder and I noticed today the boot screen is back.

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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu font

2010-03-26 Thread j_baer

Ken,

I noticed in today's update the Plymouth logo reverted back to the previous
font. Is this the desire for release?

If not, would it be possible to get a clip of the new ubuntu with black text
on a transparent background and another with white text? I tried gimp-ing
images from the web but the quality is not there.

This would help with other effort such as the countdown banner.

John
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[ubuntu-art] Community Themes

2010-03-20 Thread j_baer

Andrew,

I made a minor tweak to the Impression GTK themes. Please update the
community themes package if it isn't already on its way.

Thanks,

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Too Hard To Find

2010-03-09 Thread j_baer


Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 04 March 2010 03:04:22 am Merk wrote:
>> What if the community themes showed up in appearance, but faded and when
>> clicked the user was prompted to install?
> 
> In the future we intend to improve upon the "get more themes online" link
> in 
> the appearance capplet. Currently it just points to a webpage but it could
> do 
> oh so much more ;)
> 
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> 
>> Andrew SB wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:20 PM, John Baer  wrote:
>> >> As I installed community themes and I found the only way to locate the
>> >> package was through Syntapic search.
>> >>
>> >> As Software Center becomes the desired software installation tool is
>> >> there a way to add this package?
>> >
>> > In Karmic software-center only presented GUI applications (with a few
>> > special exceptions). This is no longer the case in Lucid. Searching
>> > for "community themes" in software-center will now show the desired
>> > package. Though if you just search for themes, it is buried deeply and
>> > applications are still featured more prominently.
>> >
>> > See this blueprint for reference:
>> >
>> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-non-
>> >applications-in-software-center
>> >
>> > I'm not sure how we can make it more findable. One idea would be to
>> > ask the desktop-team to consider placing it in the featured section.
>> > Although, the current criteria states that featured packages should be
>> > applications. You might want to send an email asking about this to the
>> > desktop list.
>> >
>> > - Andrew SB
>> 
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Just a thought ...  If the "get more themes online" link pointed to a wiki
page the wiki page could refer folks to many appropriate
destinations/solutions.

John :)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper Aspect Ratio

2010-03-05 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 07:29 -0500, John Baer wrote:
>> All,
>>  
>> Some time back a discussion occurred about the correct demension for
>> wallpaper submission and the number 2650x1920 was offered as a good
>> middle ground.
> 
> That's what I proposed, under the assumption that it is not feasible to
> create wallpapers custom tailored to each aspect ratio.
> 
> The GIMP and Inkscape templates show how the ratios relate to each
> other:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds#Templates
> 
> 
> 
>> I am finding a single demension inadequate for wall papers with images
>> which depend upon the aspect ratio to display correctly (i.e. circles
>> & many more).
> 
> Are you aware of how Style: Zoom in the Appearance Preferences,
> Background tab works?
> 
> 
> Something that would help without requiring several versions of a
> background, would be the ability to have offsets for the area of the
> background that is shown on a screen that has another aspect ratio.
> 
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My experience has been the "zoom" function doesn't always fix the problem.
In some ways how can it? The image can be cropped, scaled down, or scaled up
but not changed.
Your GIMP & Inkscape templates highlight the issue clearly but I don't want
to be constrained to the least common denominator of image space.

I am not advocating creating a wallpaper for each image size, but a single
wallpaper for each aspect ratio or at least the most common ones.

I believe an image scaled to 1920x1200 will “zoom” to the other 8:5
dimensions correctly (i.e. 1680x1050, 1440x900, 1280x800).

Assuming this adds value, will Gnome support it?

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Cleanup

2009-12-27 Thread j_baer


Andrew SB wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> As Lucid is a Long Term Support release, I feel that this is a good
> time to clean up some of the artwork releated packages in the archive.
> A number of packages haven't been updated at all since Hardy,
> esentially un-maintained. Some look and feel quite out-dated, and if
> we are going to carry them for the life of the LTS, they're only going
> to feel more so going forward.
> 
> - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
> 
> 

Andrew,

I could not agree more. My desire is to move the Impression and Night
Impression GTK themes to a unified code base (  I've already started work on
this ) with no major changes.

For me the wild card is the work being done by the  Ayatana team. This is
something I would like to leverage if it will be ready in time.

I believe Ken would like artwork to be ready before the first beta on March
18th. 

John
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread j_baer


Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
> 
> 
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Andrew wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:54:58 -0800 (PST)
>> j_baer  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I  
>>> discovered
>>> large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if  
>>> we are
>>> going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).
>>>
>>> I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a "pro"  
>>> subscription.
>>> Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of  
>>> physiological
>>> questions about open source, free, community support, etc.
>>>
>>> Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.
>>>
>>> My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> I think this is a very important point, I don't now whether this  
>> was overlooked, but this does restrict
>> entries, because of this size limit.
>>
>> I think something like a DeviantArt group (if they exist? Inkscape  
>> used them for their splash screen
>> contests) should be set up alongside the Flickr group, so we don't  
>> lose the ability to quickly mark a photo
>> on flickr as suitable, but also don't lower the barrier of entry.
>>
> I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with  
> them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(
> 
> - --
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> 
> 

Perhaps Yahoo would be willing to support open source by relaxing the file
size restriction for communities like Ubuntu. A request like this would
probably be better received if made by Canonical but I am willing to give
them a shout if you prefer.

John
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[ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread j_baer

I use Flickr and for the most part I am happy with how it works. I discovered
large images are cropped to 1024x768 and this may be a problem if we are
going to use Flickr for wallpaper submissions (2650x1920).

I assume this restriction is removed if you purchase a "pro" subscription.
Although $24.95 is not a lot of money it raises all kinds of physiological
questions about open source, free, community support, etc.

Some may question why the wiki is not good enough.

My question is the desired role of Flickr for the Ubuntu ArtTeam?

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[ubuntu-art] Gimp mathmap

2009-10-24 Thread j_baer

Is there a deb for this Gimp plugin?

Examples of it's use are here: 
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mathmap&w=all#page=0

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Looking over the Fence: Fedora Wallpaper

2009-10-24 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Interesting blog post by Máirín Duffy:
> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/f12-wallpaper-sprinting/
> 
> 
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> 

Fedora certainly has an active art group and I'm sure the wallpaper for
Fedora 12 will look as good as Fedora 11. However there is a lot to be said
in what Ubuntu has to deliver.

IMO when Karmic ships folks will be generally pleased with the changes and
the quality of the presentation. As I alluded to in an earlier post with
community themes added to the mix the total artwork package is very good.

In addition to Fedora I also like and respect the efforts of the openSUSE
project. It looks like 11.2 will have new professional artwork.

John
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[ubuntu-art] Community Themes

2009-10-20 Thread j_baer

Ken,

I find the mix of GTK themes to be very good when community themes are
added. What is the possibility of having these themes added by default?

John
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[ubuntu-art] Community Themes Released

2009-10-10 Thread j_baer

For those who are testing Karmic, the new Community Themes package is
available.

Thanks Andrew!

To celebrate the pending release I created a new wallpaper titled "Karmic
Gazing Ball" which is available here.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/NightImpression/Desktop15

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