Re: [ubuntu-uk] Logo rip-off perhaps?

2008-01-10 Thread Chris Rowson
 Anyone else think that the logo has a striking resemblance to the one
 for a certain flavour of ubuntu??

 http://www.govnet.co.uk/mobilegov/background.php

 Wonder if it was subliminal or deliberate...

 Pete

Ah T-Government. Mmmm

I don't reckon it's likely to be deliberate to be honest. I think the
circle with radiating bits offa it is pretty universal to indicate
radio waves.

You're right though, it is a very similar blue

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[ubuntu-uk] A question for sysadmins

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Rowson
Hello,

I've got a question about server backups.

Scenario: You want to perform a daily backup of a web server content
at /var/www/ to a mounted device at /media/netbackup.

To do this you run a daily job as follows:

tar cpf /media/netbackup/fullbackup-`date '+%d-%B-%Y'`.tar /var/www

Your /var/www/ is 10GB in size.

The question is, do you require at least 10GB of free space on the web
server's hard disk drive in order to build the tar archive before
sending it off to the mounted device, or is the archive built on the
mounted device instead?

Thanks as usual :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A question for sysadmins

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Rowson
 Running the job as you specified it above, the tar will be created
 directly on the mounted device.

 Steve

Thanks Steve

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A question for sysadmins

2008-01-08 Thread Chris Rowson
 The question's already been answered, but I wanted to suggest using
 something like rsnapshot.  Daily backup's of 10GB will very quickly get
 big.  Why not use rsnapshot, or one of the various other incremental
 backup tools to only copy what has actually changed?

 Kind Regards,
 Dave Walker

Hi Dave,

In the future I think I'll look at it. Unfortunately however the web
application is being migrated off that particular server so the
question was more to satisfy my own curiosity ;-)

I work in a Windows based IT department (the only Linux stuff we have
is a couple of servers I've put in - and they usually end up getting
replaced with a Windows box sooner or later whether I like it or not
lol), and unfortunately that's the OS the backup storage device is
running. Rsync server component won't work on Windows will it?

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source video recorder

2008-01-07 Thread Chris Rowson
T

 Where can one buy one from in the UK?

 --
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 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk

Maplins are selling them

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx%3FModuleNo%3D221884%26C%3DFroogle%26U%3D221884%26T%3DProduct%26MA%3DNeuros%2520OSD%2520Digital%2520Video%2520Organiser%2520(Neuros%2520OSD)sa=Xoi=product_resultresnum=1ct=resultcd=2cad=AIFJJVyXvI0tEHIZWHMFzpqZqJgJC_6jMQAAusg=AFQjCNEZXPDcYWwbKosR-i4DJ6qs0NkXlQ

You might get a better price if you shop around though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source video recorder

2008-01-07 Thread Chris Rowson
 Not bad I guess, pity it doesn't do HD video.  I still think I'd go for
 the cheaper software modified XBOX option though.

 Rob


I've thought about it but the xbox is a wee bit big and ugly isn't it?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Rowson

 Chris

 I just got this response from another list:

 The df command will report all the available space on the disk , in other
 words it will report the number of blocks in the free list.

 The du command gives you and total number of blocks used by the directory
 that is passed to it as a parameter.

 The difference between the output is because du doesn't take into account
 the blocks taken by the directory itself, nor does it count the blocks used
 by the special files on the filesystem. Things like your device files etc.

 That is why du (in my experience) always reports less than df.

 Which is more or less what Alan said I think!
 HTH

 Stu

Hi again,

Thanks again for looking into it further for me.

I don't buy the 'the space is being used by filesystem itself or
device files etc' argument in this case though. It might account for
some space, but we're talking nearly half of the available filesystem
here (about 12 gig or so) just missing to du .

I've got another Dapper server sat here too. This one does web-content
filtering and caching (squid and dansguardian) for up to 500 clients
and is always under a pretty heavy load. Running du and df on that box
doesn't show much of a difference in results to be honest.

Repeating the test on a CentOS test server running a LAMP environment
like the problematic one, again doesn't show anywere near as much as a
difference in results either!

To be honest, I can't recall being as stuck as this with any problem
in the past. I'd have ignored it by now, but the disk is at 98%
capacity according to df. Not good (especially when the people I
work with have a real downer on anything Linux too...)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Rowson


  Chris,
 
  Have you tried df -hi to show the number of free inodes on the system?
  It should help to reveal whether it's a problem with the number of
  inodes used or just hidden files or something..
 
 
 
  Hi Lucy,
 
  I think the inode usage is OK. I tried yesterday and it read 8%.
 
  Thanks for the idea though.
 
  Chris
 
 
 I could just be slack space. The disk is allocated in  clusters of, say,
 4K (though it could be much bigger),
 If only 2K of a cluster is used, it still uses 4K of space. If there are
 a lot of small files on the drive, the % of slack space is a killer.

That's really interesting actually.

The web server holds over 18 thousand images, mostly of around a
hundred and odd kilobytes. Your explanation would make perfect
sense.

dumpe2fs reports a block size of 4096. It's not hard to imagine that
with that may small files, there will be some loss.

By jove you might have cracked it!

Thank you

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-04 Thread Chris Rowson
 Chris,

 Have you tried df -hi to show the number of free inodes on the system?
 It should help to reveal whether it's a problem with the number of
 inodes used or just hidden files or something..


Hi Lucy,

I think the inode usage is OK. I tried yesterday and it read 8%.

Thanks for the idea though.

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[ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
Help!

I'm running a Dapper webserver and I'm having terrible problems with
du and df giving different results:

df -h gives me.

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
   29G   27G  347M  99% /
varrun252M   52K  252M   1% /var/run
varlock   252M  4.0K  252M   1% /var/lock
udev  252M   52K  252M   1% /dev
devshm252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
//172.18.0.13/linuxbackups
  1.4T  710G  671G  52% /media/netbackup
/dev/sda5 228M   14M  203M   7% /boot


sudo du -hs /* gives me.

3.1M/bin
9.4M/boot
0   /cdrom
172K/dev
2.6M/etc
39M /home
4.0K/initrd
0   /initrd.img
76M /lib
48K /lost+found
263G/media
4.0K/mnt
4.0K/opt
514M/proc
20K /root
8.1M/sbin
4.0K/srv
0   /sys
12K /tmp
263M/usr
14G /var
0   /vmlinuz

Now that just doesn't add up.

I wondered if it might be a problem with open files, so I've tried

lsof | grep deleted and lsof | grep DEL

They showed Apache2 and MySQL had some files open so I restarted them.
This didn't help so I restarted the server. Still no joy!!

Please help me :-O

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
On 1/3/08, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its probably because the filesystem itself takes up some space.

Surely not 12 Gig or so though ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson

 Chris

 Have a poke around for hidden .trash folders, particularly on mounted
 media such as USB/Firewire hard drives. I have found that Ubuntu has a habit
 of creating these on such volumes and they do not appear to get emptied by
 the usual processes. I have often thought I had deleted files then realised
 that my disc space had not increased as a result, it was always a hidden
 trash file that was the culprit. Manually deleting the files from the trash
 files usually gets rid of them.

 It may be the large volume you have at /media? that is hiding such a file.
 I'm not sure why that hidden data wiuld not be seen by df and du though?

 HTH

 Stu

Hi Stu,

The volume at media is a Windows based NTFS NAS appliance. It's stored
in another building and we use it to back up to. I'm not too bothered
with the disk usage on that itself, it's more the local drive on the
web server which is making me want to stab my own eyes out at the
mo!!! :-p

Oh, I forgot to mention earlier on, the Ubuntu web server is a virtual
server running on VMware. I don't suppose that should make any real
difference though

I'd have thought du would show the file if it was just hidden though
wouldn't it ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
It's been hours now, and I'm totally and utterly stumped.

I've used lsof to check whether or not there are any deleted files
still sitting around taking up space, I've run an fsck, rebooted the
server and deleted some logs, but there is still a very large chunk of
hard disk space missing.

If I've rebooted the server, surely I should have terminated any
processes that had grabbed onto a file keeping it open, and surely
lsof would have seen any deleted ones hanging about wouldn't it? (I
grepped for DEL and deleted).

The server is a LAMP server running the Gallery2 software and it's
been up for months. I've Googled the answer to this until my eyes are
raw.

Things shouldn't be this difficult.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
On Jan 3, 2008 3:53 PM, Stuart Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Chris


 The volume at media is a Windows based NTFS

 So is mine (attached via USB). The hidden trash file is still created on it
 though. I have only recently discovered this feature so I am not sure why
 it happens but it can be annoying. Of course it may not be related to your
 issue but it's handy to know.


Hi again Stu,

Thanks for replying :-) I suppose if the .trash folder had been
created on the attached device, the space would have been lost from
the attached device, rather than from my server's hard disk though
wouldn't it? I seem to remember having a similar problem with a
digital camera, were when I deleted pictures from it in Ubuntu, I
never got the disk space back. Like you say, it was caused by a .trash
folder.


 I'd have thought du would show the file if it was just hidden though
 wouldn't it ?

 I would have thought so too. I am not at my home box right now so can't test
 it for you. If you haven't resolved the issue by the time I get home I will
 gladly run a few tests and see what results I get.

 Stu

That'd be cool if you wouldn't mind too much. I have tried looking for
the .trash folder on the server here though and couldn't find it.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson
On Jan 3, 2008 3:44 PM, LeeGroups [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Concentrate on the DF's results. I can't remember the syntax but you can
 grep for file sizes.
 Start with files over 50M and work downwards.
 I have this trouble with my MythTV box occasionally, it usually a log
 file that explodes in size before the log rotates have time to remove it...

 Lee

Hi Lee,

Are you sure? I thought df only showed free space left on disks,
rather than let you find problems with filesystems on the disks? I've
gone over the man page for df and although it might just be me being
stupid as usual ;-) I can't seem to figure out how I'd run that kind
of search using df.

You didn't mean du did you? The problem being that they both give
different results. :-(

Thanks for replying.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Rowson

 Chris

 I have just done some testing as promised with the hidden trash folder on my
 ntfs drive and found that both df -h and du -hs /* did not report the
 changes in file sizes on the /media volume until I manually deleted the
 files from it (therefore it would appear that both commands respond to
 changes in hidden files at least when files are deleted from them). However
 they were consistently 0.9 Gb adrift in the sizes they were reporting
 despite the fact that the folder I was using for testing was a little under
 300 Mb.

 I am going to do some more testing as this happens to have some bearing on
 my line of work. I will post back if I come up with anything
 significant/relevant/interesting.

 If anyone out there can provide a full explanation of why/how this occurs I
 would be very interested. I am sad enough that I find this kind of thing
 fascinating :-)

 I hope you resolve your issue soon.

 Stu

Thanks for that Stu,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Put your questions to Bill Gates

2008-01-02 Thread Chris Rowson
On Jan 2, 2008 10:04 PM, Kirrus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just seen this on the BBC news site...

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7161359.stm

 Anyone got any questions?

 Kirrus


Hi Bill,

What's your favourite type of penguin?

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu courses

2007-12-21 Thread Chris Rowson
 Hi Stephen  the group,


 The course I attended was at the Université Populaire in France. Ubuntu and
 Linux in general is very strong here. It is also used on business machines
 and commerce. They run course for that too and web site design.
 I am in the department 68 and we have an active LUG 68 where you can use the
 group as a drop in and take your PC for help  advice; there is also a
 monthly meeting and talk.

 I am not ageist but find the group a little young for me but I am never made
 to feel un-welcome.
 Also I have only learnt French in the last few years and all the courses I
 attend are in French. It is a bit like beating myself on the head but I like
 a challenge !

 Sorry I cannot point you in the direction of some where nearer,

 Regards to all

 John

Hi John,

Are you a British ex-pat? My missus's dad lives in Nantes, he sells
property out there - it seems like a nice enviable pace of life, I
wouldn't mind it to be honest but its a long time till I retire and I
don't speak French so the job opportunities would be a little thin on
the ground! ;-)

Welcome to the group. It's usually pretty busy in here, and there are
always people willing to answer any questions that you might have. If
you haven't seen it already, you can find the ubuntu uk website at
www.ubuntu-uk.org - that has info on how to get onto the wiki and the
IRC system etc.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD: [[Hampshire] Report on Tesco Ubuntu machine]

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Rowson
 Not to mention selling a machine with a default user name and password
 already set up. That blows any idea that Ubuntu is secure right out of
 the water!

 Regards,
 Tony.

Why on earth wouldn't the silly sods have run the install mode for OEMs option?

To be honest the whole affair sounds shocking. Is this a fluke/one off
or are all of these esys PCs this badly configured?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD: [[Hampshire] Report on Tesco Ubuntu machine]

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Rowson
   Not to mention selling a machine with a default user name and password
   already set up. That blows any idea that Ubuntu is secure right out of
   the water!
  
   Regards,
   Tony.
 
  Why on earth wouldn't the silly sods have run the install mode for OEMs 
  option?
 

 I know the OEM option works well in recent releases, but given they
 installed Dapper, is it as reliable under that version. I don't know, I've
 never used it.

 Perhaps they have a sensible reason for doing it this way. Perhaps... they
 don't actually give a monkeys what is installed, they just chose a Linux
 distro so they could omit windows and thus get an attractive price point.

  To be honest the whole affair sounds shocking. Is this a fluke/one off
  or are all of these esys PCs this badly configured?
 

 Is it really that bad?

 Sounds like a typical out of the box install really.

 Cheers,
 Al.


I dunno Al, I'd be pretty miffed if I was a newcomer to Linux and all
I got was an out-of-range message when I tried to boot up my new PC!

Perhaps later releases will be better OOTB.

I wonder if a lot of the purchases will be by folk who intend to put a
dodgy copy of Windows on them though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quad core CPU for Ubuntu, is it worth it?

2007-12-19 Thread Chris Rowson
 My other half is happy now, because I've decided to go for a cheaper
 dual core CPU she gets an upgrade too.


 Rob

Ssss Don't tell my missus. I haven't upgraded her from a
pentium III yet :-S

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel evil or not? WAS: Quad core CPU for Ubuntu, is it worth it?

2007-12-17 Thread Chris Rowson
 I go for AMDs because they're a lot cheaper.

I roll my own *joke*

http://www.homebrewcpu.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel evil or not? WAS: Quad core CPU for Ubuntu, is it worth it?

2007-12-17 Thread Chris Rowson
 Chris,


 Chris Rowson wrote:
  I go for AMDs because they're a lot cheaper.
 
  I roll my own *joke*
 
  http://www.homebrewcpu.com/

 Assuming it's genuine, that's a fantastic effort on the part of the guy
 who did it.

 Regards,
 Tony.
 --

I think it was genuine Tony,

I seem to remember it getting slashdotted a little while back, and
there are links on the site to interviews and other info on his work.
It's pretty cool really, there seems to be a whole subculture evolving
around this. I wish I had the time and knowledge to give something
like that a go (although I reckon my missus would string me up).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-14 Thread Chris Rowson
 Chris,

 openLDAP is the best bet for storage.. though having a disconnected
 centralised authentication system I was unable to implement last time I
 tried it.

 My setup is with Windows Clients - so that's all I can suggest for now -
 though it seems to be a fairly common goal, so other people will
 probably have more experience/info.

 Regards,

 Andy

Hi Andy,

Yeah, my experience is with Active Directory and Windows clients, and
to be honest, management wise it's pretty good. (It just costs a
fortune and forces you into MS product usage.)

I'd love to be able to do the same kinda thing with Linux.

I've come across some stuff but it all looks a bit disjointed.
Hopefully it'll get better though ;-) Looking at the Hardy specs it
looks like the powers that be see this too.

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[ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
Hello folks,

I've been wondering for a while, how I could put in place some kind of
central authentication for a series of Ubuntu desktops/laptops.

At work, I achieve this using Active Directory and Windows, but I
wondered if there was a Linuxified version of this setup. I've been
thinking of volunteering to get some community IT access up in the
local area, and of course being able to configure PCs centrally would
be great. There wouldn't be a great deal of money, so setting up a
Windows Domain would be out of the question.

So, whats out there that would allow me to create users/passwords
centrally (but perhaps still allow laptops to cache credentials),
would allow me to have automatically mapped file storage (like a
mapped network drive in Windows), and if possible, help me to apply
some level of desktop configuration?

Any advice?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
 Greetings,

 Ive just achieved similar us NIS. It took me a few days but I
 managed to get it working:

 This helped: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/36

 Also there is something called LDAP but thats for another day with me.

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer

 Have fun

 Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks for that -

LDAP is the standard Active Directory runs on (well, kinda - although
MS has bastardised it a bit). I'm reasonably comfortable with that and
wouldn't mind giving it a go. One thing that confuses me is how to
configure the client side (ie join a domain etc). I'm guessing it'll
all be on the command line.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
  It did with NIS

  I had to give the clients the IP address of the NIS server and edit the
 user and password files to point there (best way i could think of saying
 it).
  This was carried out by editing various text files in /etc

  In fact looking back on it, apart from some head bang wall moments, it was
 quite simple if you followed the guides.

  If you dont want to edit the files, Bimble over to http://www.webmin.com/
 and have a look.
  I found this the other day and you install it on the server machine to give
 you a web interface for pretty much everything.

  If i had known about it at the beginning it would been easier to set the
 system up but at least i have managed to get some command line experience.

Hi again,

Fiddling with the command line doesn't bother me too much. I run some
Linux stuff (proxy and web servers) here as well as Windows so its not
too bad. Its just the time it takes to do it versus point and click
;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (marketing) Ubuntu leaflets

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
 Dianne Reuby wrote:
  I've been looking at the Ubuntu leaflets
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKMarketing/Leaflets - none of them seem to
  include a link to ubuntuforums.com in the getting help sections. Is
  there any reason for this?


Hi Dianne,

The graphical leaflet which I helped write the text for does tell
users where to get support.

Although it doesn't link to ubuntuforums.com directly, it does give a
link to ubuntu.com/support which in turn lists ubuntuforums.com as a
support option ;-) I thought it probably better to link to the support
page, so that users realise that they can either get ad hoc support
for free, or pay a professional company for it.

That said, the source files for the leaflets are there, so if you'd
like to use them but would rather that they did point to
ubuntuforums.com, you can always edit them to your preference.

Hope that answers your question.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
Ooooh,

I do see that One step windows domain joining ability is labeled as
an essential blueprint for Hardy :-)

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/windows-authentication-integration

That should help promote Ubuntu takeup in the enterprise.

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu from a Windows user perspective

2007-12-08 Thread Chris Rowson
 John Bradbury (a windows user) has made 3 very nice screencast type videos
 showing his use of Ubuntu. He videoed with little preparation which leads us
 to hear his reaction as he discovers things like update manager, auto codec
 and plugin installation...


Thanks Al,

I just watched the first video and really enjoyed it!

An invaluable and unique insight into a new users experience.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] for the record

2007-12-07 Thread Chris Rowson
Don't forget crossover linux folks,

If, at the end of the day, people don't want to use OO then you don't
have to use Windows to run Microsoft Office :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] White papers/Case Studies?

2007-12-04 Thread Chris Rowson
 Dear Ubuntu:

 I am a member of the Chicago Loco (wiki.ubuntu.com/Posingaspopular), and we
 are currently working on migrating a server as a team for a small college in
 the area. As payment, we are accepting meeting areas, new users, thanks, and
 the spread of free software.

 We are documenting the migration for other LoCos to draw upon our
 experience, etc. However, we are also interested in doing a case study
 and/or a white paper. For those unfamiliar with white papers or case
 studies, I will paste the wikipedia links below.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_study

 In particular, I am wondering if anyone has ever done anything like this,
 and if so, if there are general guidelines I can structure around.

 Thanks for the time,

 -Eddie Martinez
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Hey Eddie,

I started this page a while ago
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LinuxAndOSSResearchAndAdvocacy

It contains a few what I'd consider white papers -ie  'governmental
analysis on open source', and a pretty in depth case study into an
enterprise deployment (saving $26 million over MS software over 5
years).

Hope that helps.

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Re: [Bug 154822] Re: Restricted NVDIA driver defaults output to external monitor rather than laptop screen

2007-12-01 Thread Chris Rowson
 Please follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
 and attach the appropriate debugging information.

Well I've shown you a working xorg.conf - and compared it against the
broken, default system generated xorg.conf, what more do you want?
Surely its possible to see the differences between the two, and see
where the default configuration has gone wrong isn't it?

If there was something particular you wanted to know, it might be
helpful to ask for it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Rowson

  So if squid is running on a server which is connected to the internet and
 all the computers connect to squid proxy on (for example)port 8000, is squid
 sharing the internet connection or not?


Lets assume for the moment, that you have an office with a 12 port
router which is in turn connected to a modem. The router has 6 PCs and
1 server patched into it.

Internet --- Modem --- Router --- 6x PCs 1x Server

In this case it's the router that's doing the internet connection
sharing. If we disable the proxy settings on a PC, it should still be
able to get to the Internet because the router is doing the connection
sharing.

You could have a setup like this instead.

Internet --- Modem --- Server --- Router --- 6x PCs

In this case the server has 2 network interface cards (NIC). One card
connects exclusively to the Ethernet (out) port on your modem device,
and one connects to the router.

In this case you need a script which sets up some iptables rules to
divert all of the traffic coming in on the network facing NIC and
divert all traffic *other than port 80* to the Internet facing NIC.
The script sends all port 80 traffic to port 3128 (or whatever) on the
squid server (which does what it has to do with the traffic then
returns cached data or sends the request on it's merry way to the
Net).

All you now have to do is set the ip address of your server as the
gateway address for your PCs.

You now have a transparent proxy server. You don't have to set proxy
settings in your PC anymore as all traffic goes through the server. In
a way, I guess you could say that your PC is now 'sharing your
internet connection'.

If you want to implement a transparent proxy server, luckily enough I
documented what I did the last time I needed to do it. It's here:

http://justuber.com/linux:ubuntu_and_debian:ubuntu_transparent_proxy

Does that clear things up any for you?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Squid

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Rowson
I mean.

, I guess you could say that your SERVER is now 'sharing your
 internet connection'.

Also, I'm assuming that the router is cheapy bog standard SOHO router
and not a nice uber Cisco switch with it's own settings/routes etc
etc...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] Website of the year award...

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 27, 2007 10:03 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.policegiftshop.co.uk/

 Check out the babygrows! :o)

 M.



Superb!

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Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Canonical Server Edition Advertising

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Rowson
 Hi all,

 I wanted to send you the YouTube links to the Canonical Server Edition
 adverts.
 It's running in the US for the next 3 weeks on some business and
 IT-related sites.

 I would be curious to see what you think and any ideas you might have
 for what else might be easier than it first appears or something else
 you might do in the office while the server hums away.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkMlCeDu-0cfeature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6L51uZjaZUfeature=related

 Landing Pages

 www.canonical.com/troublefree
 www.canonical.com/easier
 www.canonical.com/ready


 There is a third I am still waiting on it appearing on YouTube so keep
 an eye out for it.

 Thanks

 gerry

Whilst I'm glad that Canonical have cottoned on to idea of video
marketing (I'm a bit of a proponent myself!), I can't help be but a
wee bit disappointed at the quality of the videos.  The end titles
look a little bit like they were made on Impress or Powerpoint, and
the video segments seem a little amateurish.

The problem is, if the video looks like you made it yourself it's
going to look like you haven't got the cash to pay for a proper
advertising campaign. This isn't the impression you want to give to
people. You're asking them to trust your server operating system to
run their businesses Not good.

Chuck a few quid at the problem and employ a media company. You might
even be able to encourage a University to put some media students on
task with this. If you want help from the community side of things
trying to get something like this set up, give me a shout. I'm sure
there are others here who'd help out too. There may even be media able
people reading the list. I suggested a competition a while ago in the
'Ubuntu Viral Video' thread.

Check out these Linux video ads:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-329Czokjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIWjK5E62qA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4

Can't we create something with a little more impact?

Please don't treat this as me slating what you've done. I think its a
good beginning, I just think we can do better ;-)

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Re: [Bug 37821] Re: Regular network drops with madwifi

2007-11-25 Thread Chris Rowson

 Oh yes it was. If madwifi isn't capable of scanning when already
 connected, then it just shouldn't do the scan when given the order by
 NetworkManager (or by whoever). Either you support a feature or you
 don't support it; if you don't, you should refuse to do it when asked,
 either ignoring the request or returning an error.

Well Matteo, I think that various people have various opinions on the
matter. It's probably best not raking over those old coals again is
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[Bug 95886] Re: Wrong keyboard layout after installation (US instead of FI)

2007-11-25 Thread Chris Rowson
I can confirm a similar problem with Gutsy.

After performing a fresh install, and selecting a British keyboard
layout the system boots up with a US layout instead.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None = ubiquity
   Status: New = Confirmed

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic analysis

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Rowson
On 11/24/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 07:25:14PM +, David Restall - System 
 Administrator wrote:
  I want to see where and what the traffic profile is on a server.  What I
  have used in the past is ethereal but this seems like overkill, is there
  anything else out there.
 
  What I would like is something that will give me a simple report showing
  traffic in, out, IP addresses, ports etc.
 

 ntop?

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I also used ntop for this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1232294

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic analysis

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Rowson

 I also used ntop for this:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1232294

 Chris


Scratch that - ignore the forum post. I just read it properly and it's
not very good!!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asus PC with Ubuntu pre-installed and 2GB ram

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Rowson
On 11/24/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 05:20:51PM +, James Grabham wrote:
  If I get one, I was thinking f putting different OSs on SD cards,
  Ubuntu on one, win 2000 on another etc, is this feasable?  Would it be
  slow?
 

 Yes. Not sure SD cards are not ideal for running an OS off of. They aren't
 quick and will not last long with many write operations.

 Cheers,
 Al.

I did wonder about that. This PC uses a solid state drive. Is that not
similar to an SD card and hence will fail after x amount of write
operations?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asus PC with Ubuntu pre-installed and 2GB ram

2007-11-24 Thread Chris Rowson

 Chris Rowson wrote:
  On 11/24/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 05:20:51PM +, James Grabham wrote:
  If I get one, I was thinking f putting different OSs on SD cards,
  Ubuntu on one, win 2000 on another etc, is this feasable?  Would it be
  slow?
 
  Yes. Not sure SD cards are not ideal for running an OS off of. They aren't
  quick and will not last long with many write operations.
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 
  I did wonder about that. This PC uses a solid state drive. Is that not
  similar to an SD card and hence will fail after x amount of write
  operations?

 Basic technology of SD cards, USB thumb drives, and SSDs are similar and
 all failures after x writes, although SSD with ware-leveling have
 predicted life spans in excess of HDD or so the Internet tells me.

 It's a big subject.  Here are a few references to be getting on with.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_memory_cards
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_card
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_drive
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

 Just don't expect a £5.99 1G USB thumb drive to have similar life span
 and responsiveness to a $999.00 64G SSD recently announced.

Cool, interesting stuff there. I never knew that you could buy drop in
replacement 2.5 solid state drives. I guess that if the eee is using
the same type of thing, you could (if you needed more space or your
SSD broke) just put in a standard laptop hard drive then?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asus Eee PC video review

2007-11-23 Thread Chris Rowson
I thought about buying one of these for the missus for christmas, but
noone seems to have them in stock.

Chris

On Nov 23, 2007 2:07 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 02:06:26PM +, George MacLeod wrote:
  They even had a look at the Eee PC on the BBC2 weekend cookery programme
  'something for the weekend' where they played with the voice control and the
  built in camera.

 Yeah, I watched that and was a little surprised how mainstream it's
 managed to get in such a short time.

 Shame it didn't work perfectly first time, but these things happen on live
 TV I guess.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anything like publisher?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Rowson
Don't forget,

If you get really stuck - there's always Crossover Linux and perhaps
Wine? that would run those irritating but essential Windows programs
without Linux alternatives.

Chris

On Nov 20, 2007 9:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dianne,

 Many thanks for your offer, yes please do send me a copy of the Viva
 Designer manual. I will look up the programme, unless you know where to
 point me to?

 James

 Original Message:
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 From: Dianne Reuby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:59:42 +
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anything like publisher?





 On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 06:10 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I have got my partner so far hooked on Ubuntu, but she has brought
  some work
  home and one of the documents she has to work on is produced via
  Publisher.
  Is there anything simular?
 
  James

 I've also tried Viva Designer, which is less advanced than Scribus. I
 seem to remember that the tutorial was hard to find on the website, so
 I'd be happy to email you a copy if your partner wants to compare it
 with Scribus.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anything like publisher?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Rowson
 On 11/20/07, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  WRT Wine/Crossover, I wouldnt' be on it... the latest version of Publisher
 (when I installed a trial on XP)

 *bet* on it, even ;-)

 Sean


Scary!

To be honest, I'm using older versions of Office (when I have to use
Office) so didn't know about that problem.

I wonder. If Linux desktop continues to be taken up well, will
Microsoft produce I version of Microsoft Office for Linux (like they
do for Mac). That'd make compatibility a little less of an issue.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to check my kernel?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Rowson
uname -r

On 11/20/07, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there an easy way to check my kernel?

 regards
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Rowson
 This might sound stupid, but whenever I see a high-spec machine, I
 always feel it would be wasted on Linux.

 I've always installed and seen Linux installed on lower-spec machines
 (my desktop included) which is probably why.

 With Windows you could probably get a nice game or a resource
 intensive application to use, but with Linux, everything generally
 works well under almost any hardware (at least in my experience),
 which is not a bad thing.

I see where you're coming from, but I guess it depends on what you
want to do with your linux box...

I've watched programs like GIMP and Inkscape crawl to a near stop when
editing very complex images on my 2Ghz 512MB RAM laptop. I also feel
firefox become a little laggy when I've got a couple of tabs open that
have a lot of flash stuff going on on them.

I guess your computing experience is going to depend on exactly what
you use your computer for ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Rowson
  I guess your computing experience is going to depend on exactly what
  you use your computer for ;-)

 Yeah, which is why I said what I said as I mainly use my laptop which
 runs *gasp* OS X *gasp* for my design work and movie editing/watching.


Nowt wrong with that mate ;-)

Thats one thing that OSX is no doubt better at than Ubuntu (well until
Adobe starts releasing some Linux compatible vid and design stuff!) .

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Spam

2007-11-13 Thread Chris Rowson
 Hi Kris,

  PEOPLE don't do it.. Its just a computer that just sits there doing
  it... and people click the links, get a virus, viruses uses that oc to
  post comments etc etc...

 No that's what I mean - I find it hard to believe that people click on
 the links not that spambots send it out. Mind you it shouldn't - some of
 the things I've seen recently, like the guy in one of our departments
 that told me his monitor had interference.

 It was his mobile every time it searched for a network (we still have a
 few CRTs). I told him it was CB radio interference and the next time it
 happened to speak in a loud clear voice into the monitor to change their
 channel. Couldn't believe it when I saw him doing it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
 Interesting you are asking about webcams, because I'm playing with camE for
 a local pub that (for some reason I can't fathom) wants a webcam in their
 bar.

 Currently recording my every move... http://seanmiller.net/webcam

 Sean

Mmm multiple monitors !

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
 By the way, I received two Gutsy CDs in the post a couple of days ago...
 they seem to be shipping them out faster than previously, perhaps because of
 the more limited numbers (?)

 Proof on webcam ;-)

 Sean

Oooh I see - This is like a slightly more nerdy version of big brother :-) ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
 Ian Pascoe wrote:
  Well I cut my teeth on a Model B and the first major enhancement I did to it
  was  to add a 5.25 floppy drive.
 Mmm, not sure I should confess to this in a public forum but:
 I also started on a Beeb, had to install the floppy-disc interface one
 chip at a time and installed a word-processor on a ROM (there's flash!).
 No hard drive then!
 And all that 32K of RAM!!!  such luxury.
 Eddie


Meh lightweights

My first forage into computing in the 1800's was much more hardcore.
You don't know you're born!

I would often be called to the analytical machine late at night,
because a tiny misalignment of a brass cog had caused it to render an
ascii image of her majesty incorrectly (thus greatly angering
subscribers of the then pigeon powered t'internet.).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
 Weren't you the bloke who invented Microcogs in his carriage house?
 Just think if it weren't for silicon and a few million other discoveries
 you could have been the world's richest man - it's enough to make you
 slip your cogs thinking about it.
 :-)

 Eddie

Don't remind me about it. I may have invented the idea of Microcogs,
but I unfortunately sold my patent to a chap called William for a
couple of hundred dollars.

A few years later and Microcogs runs on pretty much every mechanical
adding machine in the world

If it wasn't for free and open ended cogs there wouldn't by a smidge
of competition for Bill and Microcogs

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another happy Ubuntu user :-)

2007-11-11 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 11, 2007 12:37 AM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 00:32 +, Chris Rowson wrote:
  She preferred it to Ubuntu because the 'start menu' was located in the
  bottom left where she expected it to be; and that by having only one
  panel, the interfaces took up less screen real estate (which is
  important on her old 1024x768 laptop display.
 

 I have never quite understood this argument, or the it's brown one.
 The panels are very configurable, so you could have exactly what Linux
 Mint gives you with standard Ubuntu and a dozen or so mouse clicks.

 Cheers,
 Al.


I totally agree, but the difference is a dozen clicks for me, plus
downloading and installing codecs/flash/java etc etc or not having to
bother doing it.

I put my hands up, I'm lazy!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another happy Ubuntu user :-)

2007-11-10 Thread Chris Rowson
  Anyway, that's a nice job you did there, when it comes to people doing
  as you said, word processing and email Ubuntu really sticks out as a
  green light, mainly because of how suitable it is for that, not all pc's
  are for the power user *cough Slackware *cough* and it's nice to see
  someone that is finding Ubuntu a comfortable distro to use.
 

I recently tested Linux Mint (basically Ubuntu with gnome-main-menu
and all the codecs preinstalled) on a non-techie user (my other half
in fact).

She preferred it to Ubuntu because the 'start menu' was located in the
bottom left where she expected it to be; and that by having only one
panel, the interfaces took up less screen real estate (which is
important on her old 1024x768 laptop display.

I preferred it as I didn't have to worry about installing realplayer,
java etc before handing it over.

All that put me off was that I don't know anything about the
maintainers. Although in Mint's defence, at least it uses Ubuntu
repositories for the good majority of stuff (other than a couple of
native Linux mint progs, and artwork) so if Linux Mint goes pear
shaped, it'll still receive updates!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im Back!

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 9, 2007 11:04 AM, Pete Stean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IMAP support for Gmail is imminent, although it seems entirely
 arbitrary when people's accounts are enabled - keep checking  ;)

 Pete


Mooowahahahaha - that'll teach you never to read my blog!!

http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/10/28/waiting-for-imap-on-your-gmail-account/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Community Gaming Server

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Rowson
Just out of interest,

Is there a server/bandwidth sorted for this yet, or will we be needing one?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Community Gaming Server

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Rowson
 On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 15:47 +, Chris Rowson wrote:
  Is there a server/bandwidth sorted for this yet, or will we be needing one?
 

 For the US based server yes, I believe bandwidth and physical hardware
 are already in place.

 Cheers,
 Al.

The only problem with US based servers and gaming = latency for UK folks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Community Gaming Server

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Rowson
 Hi Chris,

 On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 19:34 +, Chris Rowson wrote:
  
   For the US based server yes, I believe bandwidth and physical hardware
   are already in place.
  
   Cheers,
   Al.
 
  The only problem with US based servers and gaming = latency for UK folks.
 

 Indeed, which is why I said for the US server indicating that this was
 not the case for a UK server :)

 I have added the multi-region requirement to the wiki already.

 Cheers,
 Al.


Doh - speedreading again.

Is that the Ubuntu main wiki jobby?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)now: my messed up emails!

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 8, 2007 9:44 AM, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i already have a gmail account!

  ive always thought thunderbird and evolution would always save the email on
 my hard drive..thats why i never use it!

Not if you use IMAP rather than POP.

When you use IMAP, it downloads the headers of the email to your
machine, then downloads the message only when you want to read it. It
keeps the message on the server though, so whether you read it using a
webmail client or IMAP through your email client.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)now: my messed up emails!

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 8, 2007 8:26 AM, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i dont know how to...ive looked under all the options in hotmail...i cant
 see anything that i should change.!

  any ideas?

Hi mate,

Why don't you unsubscribe your hotmail email address from the list,
create say a gmail account, and subscribe using that.

That way, you'll get a webmail client that you know works here, plus
the ability to use gmail's IMAP functions to use thunderbird or
evolution to get your email too :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Im Back!

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 8, 2007 3:33 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok im back with a gmail add!!

 Can someone tell me if this is ok now?

 everyone happy? :)
 --

Hi Javad,

I don't know why - but when you send an email announcing 'I'm Back!' -
I get a mental image of a grinning bloke wearing a bandanna with a
machine gun strapped across his chest!

Welcome back by the way - you're emails now look good ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] wifi mini-survey

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
On Nov 8, 2007 9:44 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 21:11 +, Tom Bamford wrote:
  Chris Rowson wrote:
   no encryption (me likey give free internet!!)
  
 
  Is that wise? Surely you are liable for activities conducted through
  your Internet service...
 

 Liable in that you could be cut off for infringing your ISP AUP maybe.
 Liable in that in a court of law it could be proved beyond reasonable
 doubt that you did something illegal - unlikely I would think.

 Depends how much you value your net connection I guess :)

 Cheers,
 Al.

 ( I also run a free access point )


Nah, I'd use the Cheerleader defence ;-) I've not come across any case
law in the UK about this kinda thing yet. Has anyone else?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Community Gaming Server

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
I'm loving the idea :-) Count me in! I'm an ex-gaming junky and would
be more than happy to help out with this if you needed a hand.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] wifi mini-survey

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Rowson
 
  Do you use Ubuntu on a laptop + wifi?
 
Yes - Old Dell Latitude with Intel MiniPCI Jobby

  And, if you do, do you use
 
  no encryption / WEP / WPA / WPA2
 
no encryption (me likey give free internet!!)

  with ESSID broadcast / hidden?
broadcast

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Mint

2007-11-04 Thread Chris Rowson
snip
. manually - these
 hacked distros are all very well, but under the bonnet they're basically
 Ubuntu anyway so I learnt my lesson... if there's something in Mint that I
 want I'll simply install it.

 But for users that don't want to have to bother I guess it'd be fine...

 Sean

Oh, definately.

There's no denying that all Linux Mint is, is Ubuntu with some extra
codecs (well, and a few custom applications to make updating a bit
more newbie friendly etc) but that's part of the appeal for me :-)

I can give my friends a version of Ubuntu that just works and is
very new user friendly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Goodbye all

2007-11-03 Thread Chris Rowson
 Just a quick note to say Goodbye to all those doing good work with Ubuntu.

 However, I'm afraid that given that appears acceptable behaviour on this
 list to make accusations of exploitation and corruption, and present
 that in language of a sexual nature, I no longer wish to be a part of
 this community.

 M.

Mark,

Marvel as you witness first hand, evidence of email being a totally
useless way to communicate an idea. If you and I had discussed this
over a pint in the pub, you'd probably dig where I was coming from.

As it is, I think you're making a big issue out of a problem that
doesn't really exist.

It's not healthy to wind yourself up so much, over something so daft,
where it's obvious that there was no language of a sexual nature (I
think you know that) intended.

Getting into these kinds of arguments is of absoloutely no benefit
(especially not at this time in the morning with a raging hangover).

I agree. This needs to be put to bed.

Oh, and just to address the linux fanboism post.

I work supporting (primarily) Microsoft based systems. This isn't
going to change any time soon, because MS does the job of large scale
desktop deployment and configuration better than Linux does.

When someone can show me something as rounded and easily configurable
as Active Directory, then I'll collect my Linux fanboi wings at the
door

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Freeview

2007-11-03 Thread Chris Rowson
snip
 until 2011 (a LONG, unbearable way away). Freeview.co.uk reports my
 area is without any FreeView whatsoever while DigitalUK says that I
 can receive some channels now.
snip

Yeah, we had that problem too.

One way around it is to get the cheapest Sky package, and cancel your
contract after the first year is up. You get to keep the sattelite and
reciever, but you can get the free channels anyway.

It looks like Sky are going to start pulling channels off Freeview and
charging for them though... I'm not sure if that'd mean they'll still
allow the channels to be broadcast free over sattelite?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/02/09/cnfree09.xml

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Mint

2007-11-03 Thread Chris Rowson
 SNIP
  In this country we don't recognise software patents do we ?
 SNIP

 *IANAL*

 No, but we do recognise patients based upon a developed technology.

 I struggle to see the divide tbh.

 Kind Regards,
 Dave Walker

See, I told you this confused me :-p

I still don't get it!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-02 Thread Chris Rowson
 Chris,

 Sorry, but I am offended by the choice of language like Ballmer screws
 over Nigerian schoolkids.

 Are you actually accusing Ballmer of sexual exploitation of vulnerable
 people?

 Or are you saying that selling Western products to African nations is
 the moral equivalent thereof?

 Mark


You're not a stupid man Mark, you know exactly what I mean.

I'm not getting into conversations about the sexual exploitation of
children with you. I'm a mild manner person but I won't tolerate that
kind of discussion anywhere - full stop.

Please knock it off - Insinuating that a member of the community is
alledging the filth that you have just written goes against the Ubuntu
code of conduct. I do not wish to indulge in this conversation with
you anymore.

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson

 Chris Rowson wrote:
  I just read this. Sickening isn't it!
 

 Not to me it isn't.
 
 The Nigerian government aren't complaining. The Nigerian people aren't 
 complaining.
 
 [Or if they are, someone post a link and tell me about what]
 
 In fact, the person who's complaining in this article is the guy who 
 came in second in a procurement round, and he's throwing mud around and 
 hoping some of it sticks.

Mark,

Viewed against a backdrop of other MS activities - (see the other post
in this thread about previous MS jollies into Africa) you'll see that
this *may* run deeper than one guy sulking as he looses out in a
procurement round...

 
 I'm well aware that Microsoft have played dirty in the past, but I 
 believe in this pesky little thing called any evidence whatsoever 
 before assuming that somehow children are being screwed over.

I believe on the 'fool me once' principle. 

 I don't use Ubuntu because I somehow think that it's truth justice and 
 righteousness I use it because it's better

OK. Fair enough, that's your choice. I'm not really that bothered why
people use Ubuntu to be fair. I'm just happy that they do.

 
 What I _do_ find offensive is the fact that some people are jumping in 
 the kids are getting screwed bandwagon, and will try to exploit the 
 images of some of the worlds most vulnerable people to make their own 
 petty points about free software.

I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting
this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points
to make.

 
 One of the reasons I like Ubuntu is that Canonical seem to have a policy 
 of NOT descending to this kind of game, and concentrating on making 
 Linux BETTER.
 
 That I can respect.
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] C/C++ Development

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson
I don't know if this is of any help to you, but I happened to come
across this on t' interweb...

http://www.steveheller.com/cppad/cppad.htm


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ballmer screws over Nigerian schoolkids

2007-11-01 Thread Chris Rowson

On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 22:38 +, Chris Rowson wrote:
  I'm hope you see me as an exploiter of innocent children for posting
  this here. To be honest though, I don't have an agenda or petty points
  to make.
 
Despite writing in rant mode, without remembering to include the
customary rant/rant tags I didn't mean to write that. 

Strangely I actually hope that people DO NOT see me as an exploiter of
innocent children!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas

2007-10-30 Thread Chris Rowson
I think one of the problems here is that we seem to have a
disproportionate number of Southerners/Londoners to everywhere else in
the country. Thus people are always going to be biased and say -
London is the best place to do this ;-)

One of the major problems with London however, is the expense of doing
anything down there

I'd love to suggest, lets have this event in Hull, Leeds or York, but
that'd only suit me and not most of the rest of you :-P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Profile

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Rowson

 Dougie Richardson wrote:
  [...]
  This may happen sooner than expected, with respect to HP: here's an
  interview with HP's Randy Hergett, Director of Engineering
  (http://www.oetrends.com/index.php?view=articleid=955%3Ahp-randy-hergett-shares-hps-open-source-priorities-visionItemid=1option=com_content).
   He has some interesting comments on desktop.
 
 Hello, Dougie.
 
 Thanks for that - I'm not sure I like their idea of VDI, though...
 
 Interesting that they chose Debian for high availability, not RHEL ;-)

It is indeed :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UbuCon UK Ideas

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Rowson

 
 On the location, my feeling is that if you run it in London people in
 the far north of the country may miss out because of the travelling
 time, so somewhere in the middle, I think would be better.
 
 Regards,
 Tony.
 -- 

Agreed, Somewhere nice and central would be good. Birmingham seems
pretty central to both north and south dwellers. Manchester is maybe a
little more north (although not so far for me!) 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?

2007-10-26 Thread Chris Rowson
 Unfortunatly they own 99% of the phone lines so *nobody* has a choice.

 I am looking forward to WIMAX to get away from them.

 --
 Matthew G Larsen

Try living in the Kingston Communications area then mate. There, you
really don't have a choice! One ISP who can charge whatever they
like

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices

2007-10-26 Thread Chris Rowson
  Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS
  of choice now.*

** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover ***

BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?

2007-10-24 Thread Chris Rowson
Unfortunately I'm stuck with the worse ISP in the country (Karoo)
Because I live in the Kingston Communications Network Area (so can't
get a BT line) there aren't any other ISPs providing service (mostly
because KC aggressively keep them out).

Ah well, at least I get to gripe about it at www.karooforums.net

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Marketing: Alternative Article for Local Press

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Rowson
On 21/10/2007, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Following on from Chris's post last week, I decided to have a bash at
 writing one myself.  Nothing wrong with Chris's, but I wanted to put a
 slightly different spin on it.

No problem at all mate. It's my intention to encourage people to write
into their local magazines/papers, in any way they can :-D whether
that means writing your own piece or using someone elses, it's all
good.

The article sounds pretty good Ian, It'll read a bit more fluently if
you leave it a day or two, then read it back to yourself and jiggle
the punctuation and grammar about a bit. That always helps me.

If you'd like to, do you fancy putting your article on the wiki so
that others can use it too mate? If you do, just create another row on
the table here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKMarketing/ArticleForLocalMagazine
and create a new page for your article.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
  Thats possible?
 
  Ahh, didn't know you could do that in OOo. :-)
 

 Sure,

 Open writer for instance, go to Tool  Options

 On the left of that screen, select Load Save  General

 In that window you can now select the default file format to save as.
 Simply asscociate text document with word 97 2000 XP for example, then
  do the same with the other file formats.

I thought I'd just add, although I'm sure there'll be purists who
scoff at the idea of doing this, personally I find it easier than
trying to explain to someone how to save as ODF as standard, but then
export to .DOC when sharing files with others...

Interestingly enough, there's a discussion about the self same thing
on /. today. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OEM Setup was Ubuntu via Tescos

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
On 20/10/2007, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob - how?

 E

There's this 'ere guvnor!
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview

It's written for Dapper but well, you get the idea...

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[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu PCs on sale with Tesco

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
An observant member of the ubuntu-uk mailing list found this item on
the Tesco website.

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3224.aspx

Looks like Dell isn't the only mainstream OEM starting to sell PCs
with Ubuntu installed :-D

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[Bug 154822] Restricted NVDIA driver defaults output to external monitor rather than laptop screen

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: nvidia-glx

When I update using the restricted manager the NVIDIA driver that it
installs defaults to the external monitor rather than the laptop's main
screen. This means that the first boot up after installing shows a blank
screen until I CTRL ALT F2 and change the xorg.conf file manually.

--Doesn't Work (Driver
Default)--

Section Monitor
Identifier  Generic Monitor
Option  DPMS
Horizsync   30-70
Vertrefresh 50-160
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor Generic Monitor
Defaultdepth24
EndSection

---Does work (excerpt from an old nvidia config
file)-

Section Monitor
# HorizSync source: xconfig, VertRefresh source: xconfig
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName Unknown
ModelName  CRT-0
HorizSync   31.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
Option DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
Option TwinView 1
Option metamodes CRT: 1400x1050 +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select 
+0+0; CRT: 1024x768 +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1024+0; CRT: 800x600 +0+0, 
DFP: nvidia-auto-select +800+0; CRT: 640x480 +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select 
+640+0
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1400x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

-

I'll attach the full working xorg.conf file.

** Affects: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
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[Bug 154822] Re: Restricted NVDIA driver defaults output to external monitor rather than laptop screen

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
Working xorg.conf file for nvidia geforce4 440 go

** Attachment added: Working xorg.conf file for nvidia geforce4 440 go
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10080222/xorg.conf

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[Bug 154822] Re: Restricted NVDIA driver defaults output to external monitor rather than laptop screen

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
Working xorg.conf file for nvidia geforce4 440 go

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[Bug 146706] Re: [Gutsy Beta] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go

2007-10-20 Thread Chris Rowson
I don't know if it's of relevance, but the problem with the output
defaulting to the secondary monitor, rather than the laptop screen is
reported here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-
restricted-modules-2.6.22/+bug/154822

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[ubuntu-uk] NVIDIA driver problem

2007-10-19 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi folks,

In every version of Ubuntu that I've used, I've come across a slightly
irritating problem with the restricted nvidia drivers.

When I update using the restricted manager the nvidia driver that it
installs defaults to the external monitor rather than the laptop's
main screen. This means that the first boot up after installing shows
a blank screen until I CTRL ALT F2 and change the xorg.conf file
manually.

Whilst it's not too much bother for myself, I imagine it'd be a show
stopper for a new user.

So - Where should I report this do you reckon? I'd imagine launchpad,
but as the nvidia drivers are binary thus uneditable by the community,
should it be nvidia I'm reporting it to instead?

What do reckon folks?

Cheers

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[ubuntu-uk] Look who I just met...

2007-10-19 Thread Chris Rowson
It's funny how strange things can happen to cheer you up on miserable days.

Walking across the city centre just now, I met my computing related
cartoon hero (except for Tux of course!)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2149/1634609970_72eefd4787_b.jpg

If only we could get some oversized costumes for Hardy Heron when it comes out!

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Re: [Bug 146706] Re: [Gutsy Beta] Live cd graphics fail with nvidia geforce4 440 go

2007-10-19 Thread Chris Rowson
I've just done an install using the release version of Ubuntu Gutsy
and the issue still exists when using the live cd. Using safe mode
allows access.

When installing the restricted nvidia drivers onto a properly
installed instance of Gutsy they seem to work albeit the driver
defaults output to the secondary monitor rather than the laptop lcd.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-17 Thread Chris Rowson
On 17/10/2007, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 17/10/2007, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It'd be interesting for people to put their money where their mouth's
  are, and tell us what they do for a living and what their level of
  qualification is.

 Matt: Placement year doing contract work (primarily analysis / design
 and rollout management). I'm not sure what I want to do when I
 graduate hence placement year.

So you're still studying then? Whilst this is great, it's kinda a
no-brainer that you'll be pro-degree mate as you're not in the
employment arena yet :-P

  Anyone who is currently on a degree course is of course going to say
  that it's the best way forward, as alternately anyone who hasn't got
  one is going to say it doesn't matter...

 Likewise anyone who isnt on one is going to say how pointless they are
 ... cyclic argument.

If you read that back again, you'll notice that I already said that.

 But look at the facts:

 1) Graduates make more money 
 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6999510.stm)
 2) You move up the management chain more quickly (virtually every
 company has a grad scheme)
 3) You open your oppertunities massively

 If you have the opportunity, you really should go. You could go do
 llama farming in Peru when you graduate: you might as well get a
 degree before you do!

 I really do not understand why there is so much opposition to what I
 am saying. I am not criticising people without degrees, i'm advising
 Jai that if he wants the best opportunities you need to get a good
 degree from a good university. Yes, you can get into the industry
 without one, but for the reasons mentioned above it is well worth
 going for it.


Matt, noone is opposing what you say. The difference is that not
everyone is throwing up their arms and agreeing with you. Whilst it'd
be nice if everyone did, everyone has an opinion on the matter and
you're not likely to change it very easily ;-)

It's great that you're doing your IT degree and that you're enjoying
it mate, but noone is gettng at you because you are. You're obviously
100% assured that you made the right decision and that's great, but
remember -what was the right decision for you isn't always the right
decision for everyone else :-D

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-17 Thread Chris Rowson
 What do I do now? Take a third-rate University and end up with a
 qualification that's not worth the paper it's written on or take an A
 level whilst living on the streets?


Hi mate,

I don't know if it's just me, but I don't think many people give a
monkeys which university you get your degree from (unless you're
batting off Oxford and Cambridge for a place). Unless you get you
degree from University of Lampong Village Naha Province South
Indonesia I don't think  an employers going to bat an eyelid at you
going to a third rate uni.

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Re: [Bug 103945] Re: desktop cd fails to start gdm with hp nc6400 (widescreen, ati-based laptop)

2007-10-17 Thread Chris Rowson
I also agree that if the new method of installing doesn't work, we
should default back to the old method.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] help!i want to control my torrents over the web!

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Rowson
 if you do want access to a machine via ssh from work or some other insecure
 or restricted location.
 you could use WebShell
 http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/webshell/

 
 
  WebShell is a web-based ssh shell.
 
  It runs on any browser capable of JavaScript and AJAX. You can use it from
 any computer or iPhone/smartphone.
 
  The server is written in Python and is very easy to set up on Linux, Mac
 OS X, *BSD, Solaris, and any Unix that runs python 2.3.
 

Very nice :-D

I just installed that on my vps -

One thing, the text seemed a little slow to update as I typed into the
shell, is that usual?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] help!i want to control my torrents over the web!

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Rowson
  As an alternative put putty on a usb key and use ssh.

 +1


sudo apt-get install ssh on your home pc. Change the listening port
for ssh to port 443, sudo apt-get install rtorrent onto your home pc.

Connect to home from work using ssh and user rtorrent ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] help!i want to control my torrents over the web!

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Rowson
  Connect to home from work using ssh and user rtorrent ...how will i do
 that from a windows machine?


Download putty.exe

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

It doesn't have to be installed on the PC as such. It will run from a
usb stick or whatever

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Submitting articles to newspapers/local mags

2007-10-14 Thread Chris Rowson
Great stuff, excellent!

Articles are the first stage of a 'UK Marketing Push'

https://launchpad.net/uk-marketing-push

If received successfully, we should be able to create follow on
articles. In the perfect world, publishers would become interested
enough to publish a monthly article.

I do envisage that the rejection rate will be quite high though.
That's why we need to try and submit to as many publications as
possible (and why we need to track who we have submitted to to).

Thank you for taking the time to give it a go :-D

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy beta CD won't boot properly

2007-10-14 Thread Chris Rowson
 Hi all,

 I've burned the gutsy beta CD. It will boot and show the menu (Start
 Live CD/Check CD Contents/Memory Test/etc.) but the only option that
 doesn't hang the PC is the 'Boot From First Hard Disk' option.


Hey Neil,

How far is it getting?

I know that I've had problems with the Gutsy beta CD and the xserver.
The screen when blank and appeared to lock up, but giving it a CTRL
ALT F1 got me a terminal.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Full Circle Magazine looking for podcasters

2007-10-13 Thread Chris Rowson

 Matt over at Penguin Central seems to be the main contender so far, how
 about some of you guys contact Matt and form a 'super-group'? I'm sure
 he'd be glad of some extra help?  :)

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3460956postcount=6

 All the best!
 Ronnie


It looks - from reading the post that you're linking to - like Alan
and Matt have already been discussing this.

Alan - could you feed back to the group where you currently stand with
the Full Circle podcast idea? Do you want/need others from ubuntu-uk
to get on board with Matt and yourself?

Cheers

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