Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on motherboard upgradw ...

[Jim Price]

On 17/10/10 20:54, Rob Beard wrote:

> You can get boards with AMD/ATI chipsets but they're a bit more
> expensive and I'm not entirely sure how well they work with Ubuntu (okay
> they should be fine with the proprietary ATI drivers but I'm not sure
> how well they work with the FLOSS drivers).

I'm fairly sure how well they work with Ubuntu. All the machines I've 
bought in the last 4 years have ATI chipsets, and all of the chipset 
features work just fine with Ubuntu. I have 690G, 780G and 785G 
machines. The proprietary drivers only work on ~3000 series and above 
ATI graphics, but the 690G (now called 740G) boards work well with the 
FLOSS drivers. My next machine is most likely to be 880G, but there is 
no pressure to upgrade as everything is working just fine at the moment 
(including the MythTV setup, which used to be a real pain with ATI 
graphics a few years ago). Installation is so straightforward that my 
brother did his 690G based machine on his own, and he had never 
installed an operating system before that in his life. I'd recommend 
785G or above as worth the extra cost over Nvidia chipsets if you are 
going to use the onboard graphics, although native 1080p video does need 
one of the faster processors.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Bruno Girin]

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 15:18 +0100, Isabell Long wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 15:16, Alan Pope  wrote:
> > On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long
> >  wrote:
> >> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell  wrote:
> >>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org
> >>
> >> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-)
> >>
> >
> > Doesn't here. Screenshot pls.
> 
> Oh. Working again now. Must just have been momentary. :-)

At the moment, I get this at the top of the page:

Warning: split() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given
in /srv/beta.ubuntu-uk.org/www/wp-content/plugins/osm/osm.php on line
212

The rest of it looks good.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

[Bruno Girin]

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 19:54 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Last year we had a rather smashing time at the Christmas event with an 
> evening of sherry and mince pies at the Hub in Islington, London. I 
> propose we do something along the same lines, perhaps at a different 
> venue. There is another Hub in Kings Cross which is rather nice, and I 
> am sure there are other venues about which we could invade, either ones 
> we can hire (it worked out at £5 per head last year), or get for 
> nothing. I would rather not do a pub evening for this (but we should do 
> one some other time).

I'd be happy to help organise a London xmas party. And I wouldn't mind
King's Cross as I could virtually walk home :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 22:20, Will Bickerstaff wrote:
>
> There is an open streetmap plugin for wordpess that can place multiple 
> markers using a flat file.
>
> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wp-osm-plugin#adding_a_list_of_markers
>
> How manageable would something like that be?
>
> Not looked at it too closely but I'd imagine pulling the marker data 
> from something other than a flat file would be a fairly trivial change.
>
>
as luck would have it that was just pointed out in IRC
http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/
there is a bit of a bug with it throwing up the error you see at the top 
of the screen. It can pull data from custom fields on posts as well. If 
pulling from a text file it has to be served up from the same server 
apparently, which should be fine (just means we can't pull from a page 
on wiki.ubuntu.com for example)

Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Inverness - Support - Where are we in the real world

[alan c]

On 18/10/10 14:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>On 17/10/2010 11:48, alan c wrote:
>>  On 16/10/10 22:52, Daniel Case wrote:
>>>  Would help if I could, I'm based near Doncaster though...I went to Ayr 
>>> once,
>>>  lovely place :)
>>>  Could you try to help them via remote assistance as well as phone Al?
>>  Unfortunately the current problem is display related and their limited
>>  technical experience means that it is almost impossible for them to
>>  describe usefully. I do not have a remote access. I have used gitso
>>  with others in the past which is good for non display stuff. I am not
>>  experienced much in remote access anyway, except basic gitso.
>>
>>  They have just purchased a new laptop to supplement the desktop
>>  machine, and are still interested in having the laptop also dual boot.
>>
>
> Have a look at TeamViewer - it's very very easy to use and needs nothing
> installed on their machine. There's a Linux version of it been released
> recently.
> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx
>
> BTW I'm in the Staffordshire Moorlands.

Thanks I will certainly have a go
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[Will Bickerstaff]

There is an open streetmap plugin for wordpess that can place multiple
markers using a flat file.

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wp-osm-plugin#adding_a_list_of_markers

How manageable would something like that be?

Not looked at it too closely but I'd imagine pulling the marker data from
something other than a flat file would be a fairly trivial change.

On 18 Oct 2010 20:00, "Alan Bell"  wrote:

On 18/10/10 19:34, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> what wiki software does the ubuntu site use, I know me...
it use moin, specifically version 1.6.3
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemInfo/  It is quite easy to write plugins
for it, just a bit of python, but almost impossible to get them
installed for non-technical reasons. With the Wordpress site we can
actually control it and do more interesting things with plugins.

Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 19:34, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> what wiki software does the ubuntu site use, I know mediawiki has an 
> extension for google maps that can be implimented like the one on the 
> suse site. here's the link:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Maps
> Jacob Mansfield
> Programmer

it use moin, specifically version 1.6.3 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemInfo/  It is quite easy to write plugins 
for it, just a bit of python, but almost impossible to get them 
installed for non-technical reasons. With the Wordpress site we can 
actually control it and do more interesting things with plugins.

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[ubuntu-uk] Christmas pis^H^H^H Party

[Alan Bell]

  Hi all,

Last year we had a rather smashing time at the Christmas event with an 
evening of sherry and mince pies at the Hub in Islington, London. I 
propose we do something along the same lines, perhaps at a different 
venue. There is another Hub in Kings Cross which is rather nice, and I 
am sure there are other venues about which we could invade, either ones 
we can hire (it worked out at £5 per head last year), or get for 
nothing. I would rather not do a pub evening for this (but we should do 
one some other time).

If London happens not to be the city nearest you and you think LoCo 
things are too London centric, then fear not, there is a solution to 
this! Email the list with something along the lines of "I want to 
organise a christmas party in $city, who would like to come along/help 
me organise it?" and in no time at all there will be an event convenient 
for you to attend :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[Jacob Mansfield]

what wiki software does the ubuntu site use, I know mediawiki has an
extension for google maps that can be implimented like the one on the suse
site. here's the link:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Maps
Jacob Mansfield
Programmer



On 18 October 2010 13:07, Dave Morley  wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 12:48 +0100, pmgazz wrote:
> > we could
> > > do worse than the odd meet-up and mini installathon, perhaps...?
> > >
> > >
> > I'm up for that - and can provide a central space with broadband and a
> > kitchen (unless people prefer pubs).
> >
> > Paula
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Sean Miller]

I don't like the fact that because of the "explosion" graphic on the
top left, I have to read "at Is Untu-UK ?" rather than "What Is
Ubuntu-UK?" obscuring text with graphics is not something I'd ever
do, and the black and white bits emitted from the explosion do this.

The graphic top left is far too large and obstrusive anyway... make it
smaller and more subtle.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[pmgazz]

kind of, yes the API changed, but Canonical had a premium subscription 
allowing them to do Google maps over https this expired about a year 
ago and mysteriously kept on working. Apparently it is rather 
expensive to renew the https deal and as launchpad is always https and 
not http (for reasons that escape me) they can't use the free API.


We totally can incorporate our own Google maps thingamagig. Would be 
nice to do Open Street Map, I think we will go for whichever one that 
someone wants to actually knuckle down and do.


Alan.


Agree, should be Open Streetmap. There seem to be a bunch of plugins - I 
don't mind fiddling with it - I'll have a look towards the end of the week.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 16:51, Tony Scott wrote:
> Alan
>
> Yes you're right -  there are in fact Ubuntu/Canonical web design guidelines 
> in
> the pdf linked from here
>
> http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/
>
> I would use the page header top level nav detailed in the pdf - so it's 
> similar
> to
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/
>
> http://design.canonical.com/
>
> You can then put links to section such as blog, about, etc on the left hand 
> side
> in the top level nav as in the above sites.
>
> If you're going to have a standard right hand column throughout the site I 
> would
> put the podcast logo/link in there, as I think the podcast logo is too 
> dominant
> on the beta.
>
> I could do some work on this, but I'm currently busy on other stuff.
>
> Cheers
>
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there are lots of design guidelines in the design team toolkit, some of 
them contradicting each other. I have read them all, plus some draft 
ones they asked me to review. Personally I like the Captain Jack Sparrow 
approach to the design toolkit. More of a guideline than an actual law 
as such. Arrr


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Tony Scott]

Alan

Yes you're right -  there are in fact Ubuntu/Canonical web design guidelines in 
the pdf linked from here

http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/

I would use the page header top level nav detailed in the pdf - so it's similar 
to

http://www.ubuntu.com/

http://design.canonical.com/

You can then put links to section such as blog, about, etc on the left hand 
side 
in the top level nav as in the above sites.

If you're going to have a standard right hand column throughout the site I 
would 
put the podcast logo/link in there, as I think the podcast logo is too dominant 
on the beta.

I could do some work on this, but I'm currently busy on other stuff.

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> From: Alan Bell 
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
> Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 16:06:35
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
> 
>   On 18/10/10 15:51, Tony Scott wrote:
> > I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo  to the left, and the podcast logo to the right.
> >
> > When I first  went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of 
>being
> > a  site about the podcast.
> >
> > Most users, I suspect, expect the site  logo to be left aligned, as a 
>convention
> > built up over a number of  years.
> >
> > What does everyone else think?
> >
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> >
> interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends  to go on the right these days 
> (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left 
> before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone 
> has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do 
> something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, 
> but I couldn't figure out how to do that.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[John Stevenson]

n 18 October 2010 16:17, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>  On 18/10/2010 16:00, John Stevenson wrote:
>
> On 18 October 2010 15:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>
>>   I have a netgear wireless router which at the moment I am not able to
>> use for wireless so I’m using a patch cable to the ethernet port.
>> My Windows 7 laptop just err connects to the router and I can plug in and
>> unplug at will, BUT, when I plug the cable into my Netbook running 10.04 it
>> fails to connect! It shows the wired connection, but comes up with the
>> “Wired Network disconnected” message. I’ve disabled wireless, but it won’t
>> connect at all!
>> Anyone know why? (I always though that with wired connections you just
>> “plug it in”)
>>
>
> Hello Gordon,
> Yes, you should just be able to plug the wire in and it just works.
>
> The network manager panel icon now is animated when it is trying to get
> connected using an automatically assigned network address (DHCP).  The panel
> icon now uses the same animation for wired and wireless.
>
> It sound like it is failing to get a network address from your router.
> Here are some things you could try:
>
> 1) Check your router can give out more IP addresses using the web based
> interface on your router - I guess you will have to go into Windows for -
> your DHCP range of addresses should be big enough for all your computers and
> Internet enabled devices.
> 2) Check network manager for your wired setup - right click on the network
> incon in the panel and select "Edit configurations" - check the wired tab
> has an entry and edit that entry to ensure it is configured to use DHCP.
> 3) If you know your network settings, use the network manager to create a
> new wired entry and set up a manual network.
>
> If you are unsure of how to use network manager, have a look at page 41
> onward of the ubuntu-manual  for a very nice
> guide to the network manager.
>
> Hope this helps.
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>  Thanks for the fast reply!
> It would appear that the router is not set for DHCP and I can't change that
> as the router belongs to the company my wife works for.
> I did a "ipconfig /all" command on the Windows laptop, and noticed that
> even re-starting the netwirk connection, the IP address didn't change. So I
> set the network on the Netbook to static IP and bingo! It connected.
> However it then failed to connect to the Update websie, so I expect that
> might be a blocked IP address in the network.
> Have to wait for the second (private) broadband to be activated on our
> other phone line. Seems odd that the Windows machine was able to
> automatically detect a static IP address
>

Hello Gordon,
DHCP uses the idea of a lease, so even after a network restart or reboot the
windows machine would keep the same IP address.  If you are unable to
connect to any website it could be:

1) If you used network manager to set the manual (static) network address,
try logout and login to make sure all your apps picked up the network
change.
2) You have not entered the right IP address for the gateway and / or
Primary DNS - Check the settings on your windows machine - you will probably
find the gateway and dns is the same IP address, possibly ending in 254 or 0
or 1.
3) A proxy setting on the firewall - check the LAN settings on your windows
box

If you can surf the web but cant do apt-get updates, etc, something could be
blocked on the router :-(

Good luck.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 16:36, John Stevenson wrote:
>
>
> I hope Chris is just being polite when he says a wee bit smaller.  To 
> me the podcast logo completely dominates the whole page and I find it 
> hard to look anywhere else.  The logo is even more intense on a netbook.
OK, so it sucks. It was an idea, clearly it doesn't work that well. How 
can we make it suck less?
>
> The Ubuntu-UK logo would be fine on the right hand side if there was 
> nothing on the left, as with the Ubuntu.com site.
Probably.
>
> I am afraid the podcast logo hypertext link even encroaches on the 
> text around the logo - so clicking on the text "What is Ubuntu-UK" or 
> "Who is this group four ?"  takes you to the podcast  page.
yeah, it is a transparent PNG with a div below it to push the text 
somewhat out of the way, but without looking too boxy and square. It 
doesn't work that well does it.
>
> I am interested to see want content is exposed on the site, I assuming 
> that the content on there is currently a strawman for ideas as its 
> basically the same as the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam site.
oh yes, the current content is just pasted in to allow design work on 
the theme, things like discussing in #ubuntu-accessibility to make sure 
that the text contrast is acceptable for low vision users etc. (it 
wasn't, I fixed it)

>
> Do we all share the same idea of what our main audience is for the 
> site?  Is this for people who are already part of Ubuntu UK or is it 
> also for the general public?  It suggests on etherpad that this site 
> is mainly a resource for the team by my reading.
the etherpad is for writing as well as reading! If you have ideas on who 
the audience is then slap them down. I kind of see it as useful to the 
general public as well as for the team.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[Tyler J. Wagner]

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 16:17 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> Have to wait for the second (private) broadband to be activated on our
> other phone line. Seems odd that the Windows machine was able to
> automatically detect a static IP address

No, it can't automatically detect a static IP. It must have been
configured at some point. Look in the Windows network settings and clone
them on your Ubuntu PC, except set your IP to another one in the same
range. Pay attention to DNS server and gateway IP.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[John Stevenson]

On 18 October 2010 16:11, Chris Rowson  wrote:

> >> I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the
> right.
> >>
> >> When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression
> of being
> >> a site about the podcast.
> >>
> >> Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a
> convention
> >> built up over a number of years.
> >>
> >> What does everyone else think?
> >>
> >>   --
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> >> http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys |
> http://uk.wordcamp.org
> >>
> > interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days
> > (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left
> > before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone
> > has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do
> > something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect,
> > but I couldn't figure out how to do that.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
>
> It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit
> smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk
> podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else?
>
> Chris
>

I hope Chris is just being polite when he says a wee bit smaller.  To me the
podcast logo completely dominates the whole page and I find it hard to look
anywhere else.  The logo is even more intense on a netbook.

The Ubuntu-UK logo would be fine on the right hand side if there was nothing
on the left, as with the Ubuntu.com site.

I am afraid the podcast logo hypertext link even encroaches on the text
around the logo - so clicking on the text "What is Ubuntu-UK" or "Who is
this group four ?"  takes you to the podcast  page.

I am interested to see want content is exposed on the site, I assuming that
the content on there is currently a strawman for ideas as its basically the
same as the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam site.

Do we all share the same idea of what our main audience is for the site?  Is
this for people who are already part of Ubuntu UK or is it also for the
general public?  It suggests on etherpad that this site is mainly a resource
for the team by my reading.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 16:11, Chris Rowson wrote:
> It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit
> smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk
> podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else?
dunno really, hop on to http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website and join in the 
chat bit on the right and we can throw it about a few different places 
and see what happens

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

[Chris Rowson]

> Just for anyone interested. There are Windows clients out there
> supporting Video over the Jingle protocol (well, none I found
> anyway!). There are a few for *nix systems though.
>
> The only one I found that came close was Gajim which supports video in
> version 0.14. Unfortunately it looks like the resultant .exe that the
> developers have tried to produce using py2exe has a problem.
>


Doh! that's supposed to read "There are *no* Windows clients out there
supporting Video over the Jingle protocol..."

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

[Chris Rowson]

Just for anyone interested. There are Windows clients out there
supporting Video over the Jingle protocol (well, none I found
anyway!). There are a few for *nix systems though.

The only one I found that came close was Gajim which supports video in
version 0.14. Unfortunately it looks like the resultant .exe that the
developers have tried to produce using py2exe has a problem.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[Steve Fisher]

On a bus on my phone.  Check the contents of a file I think it is:

/var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state

Should have 3 or 4 lines ending in the word true.  If not edit, change and
reboot.  Usual cause of this is a failed suspend.  Will confirm file name
when I get home

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:00, John Stevenson  wrote:

On 18 October 2010 15:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>   I have a netgear wireless router which at the moment I am not able to
> use for wireless so I’m using a patch cable to the ethernet port.
> My Windows 7 laptop just err connects to the router and I can plug in and
> unplug at will, BUT, when I plug the cable into my Netbook running 10.04 it
> fails to connect! It shows the wired connection, but comes up with the
> “Wired Network disconnected” message. I’ve disabled wireless, but it won’t
> connect at all!
> Anyone know why? (I always though that with wired connections you just
> “plug it in”)
>

Hello Gordon,
Yes, you should just be able to plug the wire in and it just works.

The network manager panel icon now is animated when it is trying to get
connected using an automatically assigned network address (DHCP).  The panel
icon now uses the same animation for wired and wireless.

It sound like it is failing to get a network address from your router.  Here
are some things you could try:

1) Check your router can give out more IP addresses using the web based
interface on your router - I guess you will have to go into Windows for -
your DHCP range of addresses should be big enough for all your computers and
Internet enabled devices.
2) Check network manager for your wired setup - right click on the network
incon in the panel and select "Edit configurations" - check the wired tab
has an entry and edit that entry to ensure it is configured to use DHCP.
3) If you know your network settings, use the network manager to create a
new wired entry and set up a manual network.

If you are unsure of how to use network manager, have a look at page 41
onward of the ubuntu-manual  for a very nice
guide to the network manager.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

 On 18/10/2010 16:00, John Stevenson wrote:
On 18 October 2010 15:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote:


I have a netgear wireless router which at the moment I am not able
to use for wireless so I’m using a patch cable to the ethernet port.
My Windows 7 laptop just err connects to the router and I can plug
in and unplug at will, BUT, when I plug the cable into my Netbook
running 10.04 it fails to connect! It shows the wired connection,
but comes up with the “Wired Network disconnected” message. I’ve
disabled wireless, but it won’t connect at all!
Anyone know why? (I always though that with wired connections you
just “plug it in”)


Hello Gordon,
Yes, you should just be able to plug the wire in and it just works.

The network manager panel icon now is animated when it is trying to 
get connected using an automatically assigned network address (DHCP).  
The panel icon now uses the same animation for wired and wireless.


It sound like it is failing to get a network address from your 
router.  Here are some things you could try:


1) Check your router can give out more IP addresses using the web 
based interface on your router - I guess you will have to go into 
Windows for - your DHCP range of addresses should be big enough for 
all your computers and Internet enabled devices.
2) Check network manager for your wired setup - right click on the 
network incon in the panel and select "Edit configurations" - check 
the wired tab has an entry and edit that entry to ensure it is 
configured to use DHCP.
3) If you know your network settings, use the network manager to 
create a new wired entry and set up a manual network.


If you are unsure of how to use network manager, have a look at page 
41 onward of the ubuntu-manual  for a very 
nice guide to the network manager.


Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the fast reply!
It would appear that the router is not set for DHCP and I can't change 
that as the router belongs to the company my wife works for.
I did a "ipconfig /all" command on the Windows laptop, and noticed that 
even re-starting the netwirk connection, the IP address didn't change. 
So I set the network on the Netbook to static IP and bingo! It connected.
However it then failed to connect to the Update websie, so I expect that 
might be a blocked IP address in the network.
Have to wait for the second (private) broadband to be activated on our 
other phone line. Seems odd that the Windows machine was able to 
automatically detect a static IP address
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Chris Rowson]

>> I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right.
>>
>> When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of 
>> being
>> a site about the podcast.
>>
>> Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a 
>> convention
>> built up over a number of years.
>>
>> What does everyone else think?
>>
>>   --
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>>
> interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days
> (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left
> before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone
> has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do
> something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect,
> but I couldn't figure out how to do that.
>
> Alan.
>

It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit
smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk
podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 15:51, Tony Scott wrote:
> I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right.
>
> When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of 
> being
> a site about the podcast.
>
> Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a 
> convention
> built up over a number of years.
>
> What does everyone else think?
>
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>
interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days 
(see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left 
before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone 
has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do 
something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, 
but I couldn't figure out how to do that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

 On 18/10/10 15:56, Mark Fraser wrote:


On Monday 18 Oct 2010 15:09:37 Alan Bell wrote:

>

> This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with

> a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed

> recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and

> frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off

Was that due to the Google maps API changing? If so, we could always 
incorporate our own as shown on 
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html.



kind of, yes the API changed, but Canonical had a premium subscription 
allowing them to do Google maps over https this expired about a year ago 
and mysteriously kept on working. Apparently it is rather expensive to 
renew the https deal and as launchpad is always https and not http (for 
reasons that escape me) they can't use the free API.


We totally can incorporate our own Google maps thingamagig. Would be 
nice to do Open Street Map, I think we will go for whichever one that 
someone wants to actually knuckle down and do.


Alan.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  On 18/10/10 15:44, Liam Gallear wrote:
> I agree, looks nice and clean.
>
> Is it just going to be the single page or will there be more added?
>
> Regards,
>
> Liam Gallear
>
Loads more to add, just trying to get the sidebar to display on pages at 
the moment, it does on posts. It can do a blog like news function, as 
well as having lots of pages like a content management system. Throw in 
your ideas and lets make them happen.
This page:
http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/09/29/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org/

has the sidebar on it and I will turn that on for all pages just as soon 
as I figure out what is turning it off.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[John Stevenson]

On 18 October 2010 15:25, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>   I have a netgear wireless router which at the moment I am not able to
> use for wireless so I’m using a patch cable to the ethernet port.
> My Windows 7 laptop just err connects to the router and I can plug in and
> unplug at will, BUT, when I plug the cable into my Netbook running 10.04 it
> fails to connect! It shows the wired connection, but comes up with the
> “Wired Network disconnected” message. I’ve disabled wireless, but it won’t
> connect at all!
> Anyone know why? (I always though that with wired connections you just
> “plug it in”)
>

Hello Gordon,
Yes, you should just be able to plug the wire in and it just works.

The network manager panel icon now is animated when it is trying to get
connected using an automatically assigned network address (DHCP).  The panel
icon now uses the same animation for wired and wireless.

It sound like it is failing to get a network address from your router.  Here
are some things you could try:

1) Check your router can give out more IP addresses using the web based
interface on your router - I guess you will have to go into Windows for -
your DHCP range of addresses should be big enough for all your computers and
Internet enabled devices.
2) Check network manager for your wired setup - right click on the network
incon in the panel and select "Edit configurations" - check the wired tab
has an entry and edit that entry to ensure it is configured to use DHCP.
3) If you know your network settings, use the network manager to create a
new wired entry and set up a manual network.

If you are unsure of how to use network manager, have a look at page 41
onward of the ubuntu-manual  for a very nice
guide to the network manager.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Mark Fraser]

On Monday 18 Oct 2010 15:09:37 Alan Bell wrote:
> 
> This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with
> a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed
> recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and
> frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off

Was that due to the Google maps API changing? If so, we could always 
incorporate our own as shown on http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html.

> , so our
> various previous maps of where people are seem to have gone. Some kind
> of Wordpress/Openstreetmap integration thingie would be fantastic and
> something we can give to other LoCos around the world so they have an
> answer to the question "what did the British ever do for us?"


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Tony Scott]

I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right.

When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of being 
a site about the podcast.

Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a convention 
built up over a number of years.

What does everyone else think?

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- Original Message 
> From: Liam Gallear 
> To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
> Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 15:44:15
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
> 
> I agree, looks nice and clean.
> 
> Is it just going to be the single page or  will there be more added?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Liam Gallear
> 
> On 18 Oct  2010, at 15:35, Paul Sutton  wrote:
> 
> > On  18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote:
> >>  I have been working with Dave  Walker and Alan Pope on a new website 
> >> for the team, based on the  new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org 
> >> as the platform. The  idea is that this will be a hub linking to our 
> >> other resources  including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at 
> >> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that 
> >> don't naturally fit so well in the wiki.
> >> The preview of  the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org 
> >> (not much actual content there yet)  and the brainstorming document is 
here:
> >> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> >  Looks nice :)
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 23rd October - Exwick Community  Centre 14:00
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> > 17th  September 2011 - Software freedom day
> > 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Liam Gallear]

I agree, looks nice and clean.

Is it just going to be the single page or will there be more added?

Regards,

Liam Gallear

On 18 Oct 2010, at 15:35, Paul Sutton  wrote:

> On 18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote:
>>  I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website 
>> for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org 
>> as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our 
>> other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at 
>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that 
>> don't naturally fit so well in the wiki.
>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org 
>> (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here:
>> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website
>> 
> 
> 
> Looks nice :)
> 
> 
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> 23rd October - Exwick Community Centre 14:00
> 6th November - Paignton Library 13:30 start
> 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Paul Sutton]

On 18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote:
>   I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website 
> for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org 
> as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our 
> other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at 
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that 
> don't naturally fit so well in the wiki.
> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org 
> (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here:
> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website
> 


Looks nice :)


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[ubuntu-uk] Strange connection problem to Router

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

I have a netgear wireless router which at the moment I am not able to use for 
wireless so I’m using a patch cable to the ethernet port.
My Windows 7 laptop just err connects to the router and I can plug in and 
unplug at will, BUT, when I plug the cable into my Netbook running 10.04 it 
fails to connect! It shows the wired connection, but comes up with the “Wired 
Network disconnected” message. I’ve disabled wireless, but it won’t connect at 
all!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[David Jones]

On 18/10/2010 15:16, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long
>   wrote:
>> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell  wrote:
>>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org
>>
>> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-)
>>
>
> Doesn't here. Screenshot pls.
>
> Al.
>
It works fine for me, it looks good, nice and clean and fresh looking.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Isabell Long]

On 18 October 2010 15:16, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long
>  wrote:
>> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell  wrote:
>>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org
>>
>> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-)
>>
>
> Doesn't here. Screenshot pls.

Oh. Working again now. Must just have been momentary. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Pope]

On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long
 wrote:
> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell  wrote:
>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org
>
> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-)
>

Doesn't here. Screenshot pls.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade woes

[Glen Mehn]

Hi Barry,

You're not by any fortunate chance in London, are you?

Can you give us an idea of your filesystem layout? i.e.:

/dev/sda1 is /boot
/dev/sda2 is /home
/dev/sda3 is /

or whatever? I am willing to bet you're not getting all the filesystems 
mounted properly/in their proper place. For instance, in the example 
above, you'd have:

boot to your live CD
Open a terminal window
Type 'sudo -s' #this should give you a root prompt
mkdir /mounts/oldroot
mount /dev/sda3 /mounts/oldroot
mount /dev/sda2 /mounts/oldroot/home
mount /dev/sda1 /mounts/oldroot/boot

chroot /mounts/oldroot

# you should now have a root prompt that may look a little different
# maybe here just try running
update-grub2
# then
grub-install /dev/sda   #assuming your ubuntu install is on /dev/sda

# and tell us what the output is.

I am assuming here that you have only one OS on this disk and aren't 
doing anything funky.

Cheers,

Glen

On 18/10/10 07:27, Barry Titterton wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 20:48 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
>> On 17/10/10 17:34, Barry Titterton wrote:
>>> I finally found the time to try and fix this machine but I could not get
>>> this to work when running from a LTS live CD: when running dpkg
>>> virtually every line in the terminal had "permission denied", then the
>>> process gave up with the message "too many errors".
>>>
>>> Can you please give me exact, "Linux for Idiots" instructions for every
>>> step of the operation as I am obviously not doing something right.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm guessing you need to run the command as root, so put sudo in front
>> of each of the commands.
>>
>> Rob
>>
> I tried this and it had no effect, same errors.
>
> Should I be mounting the hard disk in a particular way or with specific
> modifiers?
>
> Barry
>
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Isabell Long]

On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell  wrote:
> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org

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[ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website

[Alan Bell]

  I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website 
for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org 
as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our 
other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at 
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that 
don't naturally fit so well in the wiki.
The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org 
(not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here:
http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website

This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with 
a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed 
recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and 
frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off, so our 
various previous maps of where people are seem to have gone. Some kind 
of Wordpress/Openstreetmap integration thingie would be fantastic and 
something we can give to other LoCos around the world so they have an 
answer to the question "what did the British ever do for us?"

Do dive in with your ideas, and we have a team meeting tomorrow night at 
9PM where some, all, or none of them might be discussed. The agenda for 
the meeting is in the traditional place at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda
and you can join the meeting with an IRC client, or with a browser: 
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-uk-meeting%2Cubuntu-uk&uio=OT10cnVlJjEwPXRydWUmMTE9Mjg3JjEyPXRydWU5c


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Inverness - Support - Where are we in the real world

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

  On 17/10/2010 11:48, alan c wrote:
> On 16/10/10 22:52, Daniel Case wrote:
>> Would help if I could, I'm based near Doncaster though...I went to Ayr once,
>> lovely place :)
>> Could you try to help them via remote assistance as well as phone Al?
> Unfortunately the current problem is display related and their limited
> technical experience means that it is almost impossible for them to
> describe usefully. I do not have a remote access. I have used gitso
> with others in the past which is good for non display stuff. I am not
> experienced much in remote access anyway, except basic gitso.
>
> They have just purchased a new laptop to supplement the desktop
> machine, and are still interested in having the laptop also dual boot.
>

Have a look at TeamViewer - it's very very easy to use and needs nothing 
installed on their machine. There's a Linux version of it been released 
recently.
http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx

BTW I'm in the Staffordshire Moorlands.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[Dave Morley]

On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 12:48 +0100, pmgazz wrote:
> we could
> > do worse than the odd meet-up and mini installathon, perhaps...?
> > 
> >   
> I'm up for that - and can provide a central space with broadband and a
> kitchen (unless people prefer pubs). 
> 
> Paula

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[pmgazz]

we could

do worse than the odd meet-up and mini installathon, perhaps...?

   
I'm up for that - and can provide a central space with broadband and a 
kitchen (unless people prefer pubs).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[James Tait]

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On 17/10/10 17:26, Mary Mooney wrote:
> Rather than have a long list of people and places, would it not be
> better to have a wiki that everyone add their location.

I was wondering if it might be possible to do something with
wiki.ubuntu.com and the CategoryUKTeamProfile "tag"; pick up the
location from people's profile page where they've applied the categroy
label, and present it on an OpenLayers/OpenStreetMap slippy map.

JT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Support - Where are we in the real world

[James Tait]

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On 17/10/10 10:20, Barry Titterton wrote:
> I live in Belper, Derbyshire, but am inexperienced so need help rather
> than give it.

Ah, you're just up the A6 from me then.  I'm just off the outer ring
road of Derby, in Normanton.

> There is a LUG in Mansfield, Notts, that meets occasionally at a
> member's home, there is also a South Derbyshire LUG that meets once in a
> blue moon.

Yes, our LUG is rather quiet these days.  To be honest, I can't complain
- - even when meets have been arranged, I've been pretty poor at actually
turning up.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Openfire

[Chris Rowson]

> As for choice of server - if you get tired of Openfire I couldn't not
> recommend the one I work on, Prosody. It's in the repos :)
>
>
> Matthew can hardly be considered an impartial judge, as he works on
> Prosody.
>
> I however do not work on Prosody, and can be considered impartial: Prosody
> is the dogs. Trivial to set up and configure, and in my experience bullet
> proof.
>
> I also believe it has pretty high performance and low resource
> requirements, but since my instance only had 5 users, I am not able to give
> a particularly exhaustive analysis... (but it did easily fit into a VM with
> only 112MB of physical memory that was also running Apache, MySQL, Postfix
> and Dovecot)
>
>
As always chaps, thank you for all of your advice :-)

I'll check out Prosody too!

Chris
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/Linux is still not an OS for the masses - discuss

[Alan Bell]

  You might be interested in following the progress of this blueprint

https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-desktop-n-xorg-configuration-the-final-ten-percent

which will be discussed at UDS, currently scheduled for 09:00 EST on 
Wednesday 27th.
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-n/2010-10-27/


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