Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 5 February 2013 08:58, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 23:03, Mark Einon wrote: Ok. So the device doesn't have a driver loaded, so it is a kernel issue... It knows it's a ralink device (PCI vendor ID 0x1814) but doesn't know what the device ID is. Can you please run, to find out what this ID is: $ lspci --nn ~/pcilist.txt and copy the pcilist.txt to the email? rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by rt3562sta 995054 0 Hmm, this looks to be part of the Ralink vendor driver, which shouldn't be here if we're trying to use the native kernel one. Is it possible to remove this? ('sudo rmmod rt3562sta'). Cheers, Mark Hi, Mark. Thanks for the thoughts. ~/pcilist.text: No such file or directory Ah, ok. Not sure what when on there - perhaps you could just try 'lspci --nn' and copy the printout the way you know works? The PCI device ID we need from this is important - as each driver has a table of such device IDs that it can support. If the device ID isn't listed in any of the drivers you are trying to blindly install, they will not work - It might just be that Compaq has changed the device ID themselves and it would just be a case of adding the device ID to the relevant driver, or I can grep the kernel code for your particular device ID to see which driver should be handling it. The device ID should also help to tell us the exact chip model that we are dealing with. Cheers, Mark rt3562sta is the driver I tried to install myself, following the instructions of jackoneill87 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850267 This still seems to be the best online set of instructions for the problem, and I still think it has identified the correct driver for the part. But I can uninstall easily enough if you want. I still have the package sitting in my Home folder. It glories in the full name of: DPO_RT3562_3592_3062_LinuxSTA_V2.4.1.1_20101217 I did not get it from Ralink themselves, since as I said their downloads site seems to have completely vanished. I got it from here: http://download.driverguide.com/driver/RT3060+RT3062+RT3562+RT3592/Ralink/d1803834.html As far as I can recall, I managed to extract it with the Archive Extractor, on the second or third attempt. Then I tried to install it, but without success, in that the Network Controller remained Unclaimed, and no wireless options appeared in the system tray when clicking the fan icon. cheers, Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 05/02/13 09:48, Mark Einon wrote: On 5 February 2013 08:58, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Mark. Thanks for the thoughts. ~/pcilist.text: No such file or directory Ah, ok. Not sure what when on there - perhaps you could just try 'lspci --nn' and copy the printout the way you know works? The PCI device ID we need from this is important - as each driver has a table of such device IDs that it can support. If the device ID isn't listed in any of the drivers you are trying to blindly install, they will not work - It might just be that Compaq has changed the device ID themselves and it would just be a case of adding the device ID to the relevant driver, or I can grep the kernel code for your particular device ID to see which driver should be handling it. The device ID should also help to tell us the exact chip model that we are dealing with. I think the double dash in --nn is wrong, should be a single dash. lspci --nn lspci: invalid option -- '-' Usage: lspci [switches] There follows a long list of possible instructions, all using a single dash. I'm reluctant to try all of these at random, but the ones I have tried which have given any new information are these (giving relevant lines of response only). I'll try other possibilities from the list of lspci commands if you like. Display options: -k show kernel drivers handling each device lspci -k 04.00.0 Network controller:Ralink Corp. RT3290 Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 18ec Resolving of device ID's to names: -n Show numeric ID's lspci -n 04.00.0 0280: 1814:3290 -nn Show both textual and numeric ID's (names and numbers) lspci -nn 04.00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290] -q Query the PCI database for unknown ID's via DNS lspci -q 04.00.0 Network controller:Ralink Corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe -qq As above, but re-query locally cached entries -Q Query the PCI ID database for all ID's via DNS By the way, do you think I should uninstall rt3562sta? You gave the instruction for doing so in a previous message. - Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 5 February 2013 10:51, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: I think the double dash in --nn is wrong, should be a single dash. Yep, sorry about that - my bad. -nn Show both textual and numeric ID's (names and numbers) lspci -nn 04.00.0 Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290] By the way, do you think I should uninstall rt3562sta? You gave the instruction for doing so in a previous message. This is good, thanks. It appears that the chip you have is quite new, and is only supported for newer kernels - for some reason I had it in my head that the laptop was quite old. As you have a 2.5.0 kernel, I assume you're on 12.04 - so I think this may help, short of compiling a newer kernel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690 or, looks like the same post: http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1272-how-to-install-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204/ Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 05/02/13 11:32, Mark Einon wrote: It appears that the chip you have is quite new, and is only supported for newer kernels - for some reason I had it in my head that the laptop was quite old. As you have a 2.5.0 kernel, I assume you're on 12.04 - so I think this may help, short of compiling a newer kernel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690 or, looks like the same post: http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1272-how-to-install-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204/ Cheers, Mark No, the machine is running 12.10, but I downgraded the kernel to 3.5.0-22 because I broke 3.5.0-23's Ethernet interface somehow with my tinkering. So, before proceeding with your suggestion, I decided to reinstall 3.5.0-23 and see if it worked. And when I restarted with 3.5.0-23, I found I'd lost the Ethernet connection again. Really, I need to fix that first. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 05/02/13 11:55, Rowan Berkeley wrote: No, the machine is running 12.10, but I downgraded the kernel to 3.5.0-22 because I broke 3.5.0-23's Ethernet interface somehow with my tinkering. So, before proceeding with your suggestion, I decided to reinstall 3.5.0-23 and see if it worked. And when I restarted with 3.5.0-23, I found I'd lost the Ethernet connection again. Really, I need to fix that first. I've given the machine a complete 12.10 reinstall from the USB stick, so as to start again without the ill effects of whatever I did previously, fixing which could have gone on forever. In a minute I shall be able to see what I've got and what I've not. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 5 February 2013 13:36, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/13 12:49, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I've given the machine a complete 12.10 reinstall from the USB stick, so as to start again without the ill effects of whatever I did previously, fixing which could have gone on forever. In a minute I shall be able to see what I've got and what I've not. OK, I'm back where I started, after a few hiccups and restarts. Wireless network controller unclaimed. But at least I've got a nice clean machine. Now what was that command again that gave the mammoth, comprehensive read-out you find so informative? Hi Rowan, Your new kernel version would be good also, so: $ uname -a And then to get the state of the network devices: $ sudo lshw -C network Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
Hi Mark, Here we are. I can see what I did wrong: I screwed up r8169, which is the Ethernet driver, thinking it was maybe a rival wireless driver. Definitely my bad. uname -a linuc rowan-Compaq 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP [date time] sudo lshw -C network *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 05 serial: b4:b5:2f:38:ea:21 size: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master Cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex-full firmware-rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw ip=192.168.1.66 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:41 ioport:2000(size=256) memory:7f004000-7f004fff memory 7f00-7f003fff *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: Ralink Corp. vendor: Ralink Corp. Physical id: 0 bus info: pci@.04.00.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:911-9011 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 5 February 2013 17:47, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Here we are. I can see what I did wrong: I screwed up r8169, which is the Ethernet driver, thinking it was maybe a rival wireless driver. Definitely my bad. uname -a linuc rowan-Compaq 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP [date time] sudo lshw -C network *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 05 serial: b4:b5:2f:38:ea:21 size: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master Cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex-full firmware-rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw ip=192.168.1.66 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:41 ioport:2000(size=256) memory:7f004000-7f004fff memory 7f00-7f003fff *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: Ralink Corp. vendor: Ralink Corp. Physical id: 0 bus info: pci@.04.00.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:911-9011 Ok, looks like the same issue, in that the kernel isn't quite recent enough to support this device. I'd suggest giving the instructions in the link I posted earlier a go. It may need to be patched to work, if so, It's not a biggie - let me know if it doesn't compile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690 or, looks like the same post: http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/1272-how-to-install-ralink-rt3290-wireless-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204/ Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 05/02/13 19:29, Mark Einon wrote: Ok, looks like the same issue, in that the kernel isn't quite recent enough to support this device. I'd suggest giving the instructions in the link I posted earlier a go. It may need to be patched to work, if so, It's not a biggie - let me know if it doesn't compile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104690 Cheers, Mark It worked! Now, we need some way of directing people away from all the erroneous Ubuntu Forums pages that also say [SOLVED] but don't work, like the one I followed, which was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850267 Better still, we need those nice peoples at Canonical to build this stuff into the system, at least as a written package of instructions which will appear at the necessary point in the set-up process, if not as a fully automated wizard. Thank you very much for your patient help, Mark, and apologies to everyone else who has had to put up with all this. Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 5 February 2013 20:15, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: It worked! Yay! \o/ Now, we need some way of directing people away from all the erroneous Ubuntu Forums pages that also say [SOLVED] but don't work, like the one I followed, which was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850267 Actually, this is for a different device to yours - you have a RT3290 (as we found out), that is for a RT3062. Better still, we need those nice peoples at Canonical to build this stuff into the system, at least as a written package of instructions which will appear at the necessary point in the set-up process, if not as a fully automated wizard. It looks like something is already in the pipeline - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466 Thank you very much for your patient help, Mark, and apologies to everyone else who has had to put up with all this. You're welcome. Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 04:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use because the latter needs to access certain component files in the package. It's probably just a self extracting zip file. You can find out what it is with the file command:- file thing.exe You'll probably be able to unpack it with unzip:- unzip thing.exe Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 08:38, Alan Pope wrote: On 04/02/13 04:03, Rowan Berkeley wrote: In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use because the latter needs to access certain component files in the package. It's probably just a self extracting zip file. You can find out what it is with the file command:- file thing.exe You'll probably be able to unpack it with unzip:- unzip thing.exe Cheers, I'm glad I have several machines, so the one I'm writing on (a Lenovo) is not the one I'm talking about (the Compaq). I had to revert the latter to 3.5.0.22, because on startup this morning in 3.5.0.23, its Ethernet interface was disabled and unclaimed. Evidently all my tinkering with drivers has knocked it about a bit. I uninstalled 3.5.0.23 via Synaptic. Hopefully when the machine updates to 3.5.0.23 again, the problem will not recur. Now, regarding your suggestions, unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you no such file or package. This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command you are typing and the error (and tell us which folder you are in in the terminal). Preferably copy/paste it out of the terminal (Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal). Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you no such file or package. This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command you are typing and the error (and tell us which folder you are in in the terminal). Preferably copy/paste it out of the terminal (Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal). Colin Aha - the answer was contained in the question. it couldn't find it on the desktop, but it found it after I moved it to the home folder. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you no such file or package. This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command you are typing and the error (and tell us which folder you are in in the terminal). Preferably copy/paste it out of the terminal (Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal). Colin Aha - the answer was contained in the question. it couldn't find it on the desktop, but it found it after I moved it to the home folder. Either you should have done cd Desktop or in the command specified Desktop/filename Do you know about name completion in the terminal? If you start typing a filename and then hit tab it will try and complete the filename for you. If it does not complete then either there are none matching or severeal, hit tab again and it will show you all matching files (if there are any). So to put the name of a file on the desktop in a command type the_command Destabfirst chars of filenametab Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 12:07, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you no such file or package. This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command you are typing and the error (and tell us which folder you are in in the terminal). Preferably copy/paste it out of the terminal (Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal). Colin Aha - the answer was contained in the question. it couldn't find it on the desktop, but it found it after I moved it to the home folder. Either you should have done cd Desktop or in the command specified Desktop/filename Do you know about name completion in the terminal? If you start typing a filename and then hit tab it will try and complete the filename for you. If it does not complete then either there are none matching or severeal, hit tab again and it will show you all matching files (if there are any). So to put the name of a file on the desktop in a command type the_command Destabfirst chars of filenametab Colin Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's response to it, there's nothing to unzip. It's just a single, integrated MS-DOS executable, very nice for Windows people but useless for Ubuntu people unless they decide to install WINE, which is not recommended just for one pesky Windows program. So, the situation is, Hewlett Packard's own solution for this driver problem not only is useless to me, but it doesn't even tell me what the standard name of the driver in the package is, so that I can find it elsewhere. I think I know what it is, from people at Ubuntu Forums, but when I follow the standard procedure for installing the one they recommend, I get stuck somehow. And indeed it's a waste of other mail list readers' time me going on about this here, when I could go to Ubuntu Forums and ask for help there, so I shall do that. Thanks anyway to all who tried... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. On 4 Feb 2013 12:36, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 12:07, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 12:01, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 11:46, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 11:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it seems that you can have a package sitting in plain view on the desktop but the terminal will keep telling you no such file or package. This rather stops me in my tracks. Show us the command you are typing and the error (and tell us which folder you are in in the terminal). Preferably copy/paste it out of the terminal (Ctrl+Shift+C to copy from terminal). Colin Aha - the answer was contained in the question. it couldn't find it on the desktop, but it found it after I moved it to the home folder. Either you should have done cd Desktop or in the command specified Desktop/filename Do you know about name completion in the terminal? If you start typing a filename and then hit tab it will try and complete the filename for you. If it does not complete then either there are none matching or severeal, hit tab again and it will show you all matching files (if there are any). So to put the name of a file on the desktop in a command type the_command Destabfirst chars of filenametab Colin Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's response to it, there's nothing to unzip. It's just a single, integrated MS-DOS executable, very nice for Windows people but useless for Ubuntu people unless they decide to install WINE, which is not recommended just for one pesky Windows program. So, the situation is, Hewlett Packard's own solution for this driver problem not only is useless to me, but it doesn't even tell me what the standard name of the driver in the package is, so that I can find it elsewhere. I think I know what it is, from people at Ubuntu Forums, but when I follow the standard procedure for installing the one they recommend, I get stuck somehow. And indeed it's a waste of other mail list readers' time me going on about this here, when I could go to Ubuntu Forums and ask for help there, so I shall do that. Thanks anyway to all who tried... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UKTeam/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's response to it, there's nothing to unzip. I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it sp58586.exe.ZIP and looked at it and said gar nicht, or words to that effect. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer You should be able to right click the thing and open with option should be archive manager -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote: What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer. Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's response to it, there's nothing to unzip. I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it sp58586.exe.ZIP and looked at it and said gar nicht, or words to that effect. That looks like it tried to zip it rather than unzip it. Zip and unzip sometimes try to be slightly too clever. Have you tried to humour the computer and actually rename the file sp58586.zip before running unzip on it? Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it sp58586.exe.ZIP and looked at it and said gar nicht, or words to that effect. I grabbed the same file and indeed it's a windows executable and not a zip or self-extracting zip as first hoped. If you run it under WINE it craps out part way through, however not before unpacking it in ~/.wine/drive_c/SWSetup/SP38586 I had a look in there and there's setup.exe and some cab files for the installation (which halted as mentioned above). I then unpacked it with unshield and lo-and-behold there's a bunch of driver directories... unshield x data1.cab The RT2860_Driver_XP2k directory is probably what you need for ndiswrapper? alan@deep-thought:~/.wine/drive_c/SWSetup/SP58586/RT2860_Driver_XP2k$ ls -l total 3504 -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 14119 Feb 4 13:38 RaCoInst.dat -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 238944 Feb 4 13:38 RaCoInst.dll -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 31420 Feb 4 13:38 rt2860.cat -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 564788 Feb 4 13:38 RT2860.inf -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 2687552 Feb 4 13:38 RT2860.sys Cheers, -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 13:41, Alan Pope wrote: On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it sp58586.exe.ZIP and looked at it and said gar nicht, or words to that effect. I grabbed the same file and indeed it's a windows executable and not a zip or self-extracting zip as first hoped. If you run it under WINE it craps out part way through, however not before unpacking it in ~/.wine/drive_c/SWSetup/SP38586 I had a look in there and there's setup.exe and some cab files for the installation (which halted as mentioned above). I then unpacked it with unshield and lo-and-behold there's a bunch of driver directories... unshield x data1.cab The RT2860_Driver_XP2k directory is probably what you need for ndiswrapper? alan@deep-thought:~/.wine/drive_c/SWSetup/SP58586/RT2860_Driver_XP2k$ ls -l total 3504 -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 14119 Feb 4 13:38 RaCoInst.dat -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 238944 Feb 4 13:38 RaCoInst.dll -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 31420 Feb 4 13:38 rt2860.cat -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 564788 Feb 4 13:38 RT2860.inf -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 2687552 Feb 4 13:38 RT2860.sys Cheers, Alan You hunted through Hewett-Packard's site for that? Amazing. Well, indeed, the Ubuntu Forums people found exactly the same driver in its raw state, elsewhere, and I have it but evidently can't install it. Perhaps I need some of the other files, but what I have is just the basic thing, which is generally referred to as rt3562sta. I installed it just as Paula described, but no dice. There's a very interesting set of instruction here which I just found: http://www.hyperborea.org/journal/2010/08/wifi-ralink-3062/ It says: 1. Go to Ralink’s Linux page and download the appropriate driver and firmware based on the model number. 2. Unzip the firmware 3. As root, copy rt280.bin to /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin Now, this firmware I had no idea of. You must understand that Ralink's own site no longer exists, it has been merged with some other company, and as far as I can tell, there are no relevant drivers, with firmware or without, available there any more. That shouldn't be the case, and maybe a more expert hand could navigate into the site that has replaced Ralink and find them. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 13:41, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it, the machine renamed it sp58586.exe.ZIP and looked at it and said gar nicht, or words to that effect. I grabbed the same file and indeed it's a windows executable and not a zip or self-extracting zip as first hoped. If you run it under WINE it craps out part way through, however not before unpacking it in ~/.wine/drive_c/SWSetup/SP38586 I had a look in there and there's setup.exe and some cab files for the installation (which halted as mentioned above). I then unpacked it with unshield and lo-and-behold there's a bunch of driver directories... unshield x data1.cab The RT2860_Driver_XP2k directory is probably what you need for ndiswrapper? I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel - what version do you have? (run '$ uname -a' on the command line to find out). I think it's been in since 3.0, and available with compat-wireless from 2.6.30. The rt2860.bin file is also available in the linux-firmware ubuntu package. Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel - what version do you have? (run '$ uname -a' on the command line to find out). I think it's been in since 3.0, and available with compat-wireless from 2.6.30. The rt2860.bin file is also available in the linux-firmware ubuntu package. Cheers, Mark The machine concerned is now on 3.5.0-22 because all my messing about has broken the Ethernet Controller settings in 3.5.0-23, so I have reverted to the previous kernel. I have linux-firmware installed by default. Maybe I should install linux-firmware-nonfree as well? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 14:42, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel - what version do you have? (run '$ uname -a' on the command line to find out). I think it's been in since 3.0, and available with compat-wireless from 2.6.30. The rt2860.bin file is also available in the linux-firmware ubuntu package. Cheers, Mark The machine concerned is now on 3.5.0-22 because all my messing about has broken the Ethernet Controller settings in 3.5.0-23, so I have reverted to the previous kernel. I have linux-firmware installed by default. Maybe I should install linux-firmware-nonfree as well? I suggested (I think) some time back in a different thread that you try booting from the live CD/USB and confirm that the wireless is not found in that case, but I don't think you replied. See what sudo lshw -C network says about the wireless network when live-booted. That will confirm that the card is really not supported. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 15:22, Colin Law wrote: I suggested (I think) some time back in a different thread that you try booting from the live CD/USB and confirm that the wireless is not found in that case, but I don't think you replied. See what sudo lshw -C network says about the wireless network when live-booted. That will confirm that the card is really not supported. Colin Yes, I remember, but now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 14:42, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 14:31, Mark Einon wrote: I'm really surprised that this driver is not supported in your kernel - what version do you have? (run '$ uname -a' on the command line to find out). I think it's been in since 3.0, and available with compat-wireless from 2.6.30. The rt2860.bin file is also available in the linux-firmware ubuntu package. Cheers, Mark The machine concerned is now on 3.5.0-22 because all my messing about has broken the Ethernet Controller settings in 3.5.0-23, so I have reverted to the previous kernel. I have linux-firmware installed by default. Maybe I should install linux-firmware-nonfree as well? I'm suspecting this isn't a kernel or firmware issue, but one of the Ubuntu userland/unity things going a bit awry (which I can't be much help on, unfortunately). linux-firmware has the firmware you need, to check run: $ dpkg -S /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin linux-firmware: /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin $ dpkg -L linux-firmware | grep rt2860 | xargs file /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin: data then also run (and post the result) of: $ lshw -C network (as Colin suggests) and $ lsmod Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 15:22, Colin Law wrote: I suggested (I think) some time back in a different thread that you try booting from the live CD/USB and confirm that the wireless is not found in that case, but I don't think you replied. See what sudo lshw -C network says about the wireless network when live-booted. That will confirm that the card is really not supported. Colin Yes, I remember, but now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. What you have installed on the disk will not affect whether it will boot from USB, it should boot before it even looks at what is on the disk. Possibly the stick is messed up. Try putting the iso on a DVD and boot off that, or put the image on a different stick. It took me a little time to work out why wireless did not work on my new laptop until I realised that I had to switch it on with a function key. Are you sure it was not something like that for you, but now you have messed up the drivers so that it now shows unclaimed rather than disabled, which is what it would show if it just needed switching on? You need to boot the live image to find out. You may just be wasting your time otherwise. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. What you have installed on the disk will not affect whether it will boot from USB, it should boot before it even looks at what is on the disk. Possibly the stick is messed up. Try putting the iso on a DVD and boot off that, or put the image on a different stick. It took me a little time to work out why wireless did not work on my new laptop until I realised that I had to switch it on with a function key. Are you sure it was not something like that for you, but now you have messed up the drivers so that it now shows unclaimed rather than disabled, which is what it would show if it just needed switching on? You need to boot the live image to find out. You may just be wasting your time otherwise. Colin That was quite interesting. I looked at the boot order settings on the Compaq again, and the resident OS on the hard disk appeared to be ahead of the USB stick, so I changed that. I only have one USB stick, but I reinstalled Ubuntu 12.10 on it, using the Lenovo, and plugged it into the Compaq. I was able to bring up a try Ubuntu without installing condition on the Compaq. I know it was the genuine article because all the GUI settings, eg launchers, background, etc, were default, as is usual during new installation. My own personal GUI settings are quite different. So, inside this try Ubuntu without installing condition, I checked the Network Controller using the sudo lshw -C network instruction, which I now know by heart. And it was still unclaimed. There are no hardware switches for the wireless network known to me, though there is a hardware switch for Bluetooth (the f12 button). -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 16:38, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. What you have installed on the disk will not affect whether it will boot from USB, it should boot before it even looks at what is on the disk. Possibly the stick is messed up. Try putting the iso on a DVD and boot off that, or put the image on a different stick. It took me a little time to work out why wireless did not work on my new laptop until I realised that I had to switch it on with a function key. Are you sure it was not something like that for you, but now you have messed up the drivers so that it now shows unclaimed rather than disabled, which is what it would show if it just needed switching on? You need to boot the live image to find out. You may just be wasting your time otherwise. Colin That was quite interesting. I looked at the boot order settings on the Compaq again, and the resident OS on the hard disk appeared to be ahead of the USB stick, so I changed that. I only have one USB stick, but I reinstalled Ubuntu 12.10 on it, using the Lenovo, and plugged it into the Compaq. I was able to bring up a try Ubuntu without installing condition on the Compaq. I know it was the genuine article because all the GUI settings, eg launchers, background, etc, were default, as is usual during new installation. My own personal GUI settings are quite different. So, inside this try Ubuntu without installing condition, I checked the Network Controller using the sudo lshw -C network instruction, which I now know by heart. And it was still unclaimed. There are no hardware switches for the wireless network known to me, though there is a hardware switch for Bluetooth (the f12 button) The command 'rfkill list' should tell you which rf kill switches are available, and what their state is. Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 16:38, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/13 15:59, Colin Law wrote: On 4 February 2013 15:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Now it has Ubuntu installed, it simply won't boot from the USB stick, no matter how much I juggle the boot order around. Don't ask me why, it just won't. What you have installed on the disk will not affect whether it will boot from USB, it should boot before it even looks at what is on the disk. Possibly the stick is messed up. Try putting the iso on a DVD and boot off that, or put the image on a different stick. It took me a little time to work out why wireless did not work on my new laptop until I realised that I had to switch it on with a function key. Are you sure it was not something like that for you, but now you have messed up the drivers so that it now shows unclaimed rather than disabled, which is what it would show if it just needed switching on? You need to boot the live image to find out. You may just be wasting your time otherwise. Colin That was quite interesting. I looked at the boot order settings on the Compaq again, and the resident OS on the hard disk appeared to be ahead of the USB stick, so I changed that. I only have one USB stick, but I reinstalled Ubuntu 12.10 on it, using the Lenovo, and plugged it into the Compaq. I was able to bring up a try Ubuntu without installing condition on the Compaq. I know it was the genuine article because all the GUI settings, eg launchers, background, etc, were default, as is usual during new installation. My own personal GUI settings are quite different. So, inside this try Ubuntu without installing condition, I checked the Network Controller using the sudo lshw -C network instruction, which I now know by heart. And it was still unclaimed. There are no hardware switches for the wireless network known to me, though there is a hardware switch for Bluetooth (the f12 button). OK, that sounds like a dead end. Sorry for sending you off down a dead end. Still, at least you can boot off usb again, and have confirmed that the wireless does not work out of the box. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 04/02/13 16:43, Mark Einon wrote: The command 'rfkill list' should tell you which rf kill switches are available, and what their state is. 0: hp wifi: Wireless LAN hard blocked: no soft blocked: no 1: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth hard blocked: no soft blocked: no Now I have the huge print-out from the terminal which was requested, having somehow managed to copy it from the terminal, paste it into a notepad file, copy that to the external hard drive, then from there to the Lenovo, which is what I'm using to talk to you. Here it is. I have suspicions about the r8169 right at the end. I think it's a rival wireless driver that won't run under Ubuntu but will conflict, and hence needs blacklisting. rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ dpkg -S /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin linux-firmware: /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ dpkg -L linux-firmware | grep rt2860 |xargs file /lib/firmware/rt2860.bin: data rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo lshw -C network [sudo] password for rowan: *-network description: Ethernet interface product: RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:03:00.0 logical name: eth0 version: 05 serial: b4:b5:2f:38:ea:21 size: 100Mbit/s capacity: 100Mbit/s width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full firmware=rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw ip=192.168.1.66 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s resources: irq:41 ioport:2000(size=256) memory:7f004000-7f004fff memory:7f00-7f003fff *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: Ralink corp. vendor: Ralink corp. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:04:00.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:9011-9011 rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by bnep 18141 2 rfcomm 46620 0 bluetooth 209249 10 bnep,rfcomm parport_pc 32689 0 ppdev 17074 0 nls_iso8859_1 12714 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek78048 1 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 32049 1 joydev 17458 0 snd_hda_intel 33492 5 snd_hda_codec 134213 3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 17699 1 snd_hda_codec radeon895730 3 snd_pcm96668 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi 13325 0 snd_rawmidi30513 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 14900 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq61555 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 29426 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 14498 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq ttm83596 1 radeon uvcvideo 76750 0 hp_wmi 18049 0 videobuf2_core 32852 1 uvcvideo sparse_keymap 13891 1 hp_wmi videodev 120310 2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core kvm 414071 0 drm_kms_helper 49113 1 radeon videobuf2_vmalloc 12861 1 uvcvideo psmouse95595 0 drm 288721 5 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper snd78921 20 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device videobuf2_memops 13405 1 videobuf2_vmalloc soundcore 15048 1 snd k10temp13127 0 serio_raw 13216 0 microcode 22804 0 rt3562sta 995054 0 snd_page_alloc 18485 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm i2c_algo_bit 13414 1 radeon i2c_piix4 13168 0 mac_hid13206 0 video 19336 0 wmi19071 1 hp_wmi lp 17760 0 parport46346 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp r8169 61651 0 rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
On 4 February 2013 17:03, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote: Now I have the huge print-out from the terminal which was requested, having somehow managed to copy it from the terminal, paste it into a notepad file, copy that to the external hard drive, then from there to the Lenovo, which is what I'm using to talk to you. Ah, ok :) for future reference, you can add ' ~/log.txt' to the end of a command to send the output to a file called log.txt. To be really snazzy, you can use samba to share a folder on the remote PC, mount it and add ' ~/.gvfs/remote mount/log.txt' to do it all in one go. Here it is. I have suspicions about the r8169 right at the end. I think it's a rival wireless driver that won't run under Ubuntu but will conflict, and hence needs blacklisting. Only if it is a driver for the same hardware, which it is not. The r8169 is the driver for your Realtek RTL8101E card (NOT Ralink), so doesn't need blacklisting. snip *-network UNCLAIMED description: Network controller product: Ralink corp. vendor: Ralink corp. physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:04:00.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:9011-9011 Ok. So the device doesn't have a driver loaded, so it is a kernel issue... It knows it's a ralink device (PCI vendor ID 0x1814) but doesn't know what the device ID is. Can you please run, to find out what this ID is: $ lspci --nn ~/pcilist.txt and copy the pcilist.txt to the email? rowan@rowan-Compaq-CQ58-Notebook-PC:~$ lsmod Module Size Used by rt3562sta 995054 0 Hmm, this looks to be part of the Ralink vendor driver, which shouldn't be here if we're trying to use the native kernel one. Is it possible to remove this? ('sudo rmmod rt3562sta'). Cheers, Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed
In my unending search for ways to implement the wireless driver on my converted Compaq machine, I have found the recommended driver on HP's website, and it comes in an MS-DOS .exe package which ndiswrapper cannot use because the latter needs to access certain component files in the package. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/