Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

[Mike Hingley]

Bruno & Alan- 
Your Google-Fu is indeed mighty  I've learned a lot today.
Here's something interesting i found using Bruno's search syntax : 
http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
I had a click through there and there are still links to ubuntu one (both the 
music store and file store).

I created the following tampermonkey script to fix the ubuntu tour : 
// ==UserScript==// @match  http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/*// @require
http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js// @require
http://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/sugar/1.3/sugar.min.js// @name 
UbuntuOneRemove// ==/UserScript==   var runEverySecond = function(){  
$('li.uone').remove();  $('li.uonemusic').remove();
}; $(document).ready(function() {setInterval(runEverySecond,1000);});

might be able to do something more appropriate by modifying the tour to not 
include those icons, or hiding them on the event (when the Ubuntu logo 
disapears from the screen).


Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:31:30 +0100
From: brunogi...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

The syntax to ask Google to find pages that link to a particular place is 
link: and to find pages on a particular site is site:. So I 
believe that to find all links to ubuntuone.com on ubuntu.com, you'd put this 
into Google:


link:ubuntuone.com site:ubuntu.com

More details here: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/136861


Bruno



On 29 April 2014 01:50, Alan Pope  wrote:

Hi Mike,



On 29 April 2014 01:21, Mike Hingley  wrote:

> I was thinking about the U1 close down, and I got to thinking about Iain

> Farrell's post on design.canonical.com :

> http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/

>

> in this post Iain provides some resources - unfortunately these are sitting

> on Ubuntu One storage, and will ultimately disappear.

>

> The link for the resource in question if you're interested is :

>

> http://ubuntuone.com/1UtWyqSmCXQy3bs3ijTwck

>



I've pinged Iain this thread so he can find somewhere else for it and

get the post updated.



> So I was wondering if we could use Google to identify pages where there a

> links in the form of http://ubuntuone.com/ and flag those pages as

> potentially broken when Ubuntu One goes kaput.

>



Some turn up with this. Probably easier for people who runs the

various domains to search for ubuntuone links though.



https://www.google.com/#q=http:%2F%2Fubuntuone.com%2Fp%2F



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

[Bruno Girin]

The syntax to ask Google to find pages that link to a particular place is
link: and to find pages on a particular site is site:.
So I believe that to find all links to ubuntuone.com on ubuntu.com, you'd
put this into Google:

link:ubuntuone.com site:ubuntu.com

More details here: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/136861

Bruno



On 29 April 2014 01:50, Alan Pope  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> On 29 April 2014 01:21, Mike Hingley  wrote:
> > I was thinking about the U1 close down, and I got to thinking about Iain
> > Farrell's post on design.canonical.com :
> >
> http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/
> >
> > in this post Iain provides some resources - unfortunately these are
> sitting
> > on Ubuntu One storage, and will ultimately disappear.
> >
> > The link for the resource in question if you're interested is :
> >
> > http://ubuntuone.com/1UtWyqSmCXQy3bs3ijTwck
> >
>
> I've pinged Iain this thread so he can find somewhere else for it and
> get the post updated.
>
> > So I was wondering if we could use Google to identify pages where there a
> > links in the form of http://ubuntuone.com/ and flag those pages
> as
> > potentially broken when Ubuntu One goes kaput.
> >
>
> Some turn up with this. Probably easier for people who runs the
> various domains to search for ubuntuone links though.
>
> https://www.google.com/#q=http:%2F%2Fubuntuone.com%2Fp%2F
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

[Alan Pope]

Hi Mike,

On 29 April 2014 01:21, Mike Hingley  wrote:
> I was thinking about the U1 close down, and I got to thinking about Iain
> Farrell's post on design.canonical.com :
> http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/
>
> in this post Iain provides some resources - unfortunately these are sitting
> on Ubuntu One storage, and will ultimately disappear.
>
> The link for the resource in question if you're interested is :
>
> http://ubuntuone.com/1UtWyqSmCXQy3bs3ijTwck
>

I've pinged Iain this thread so he can find somewhere else for it and
get the post updated.

> So I was wondering if we could use Google to identify pages where there a
> links in the form of http://ubuntuone.com/ and flag those pages as
> potentially broken when Ubuntu One goes kaput.
>

Some turn up with this. Probably easier for people who runs the
various domains to search for ubuntuone links though.

https://www.google.com/#q=http:%2F%2Fubuntuone.com%2Fp%2F

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[ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

[Mike Hingley]

Alas my google fu is not so great here, but I was wondering if anyone on the 
list had any ideas.
I was thinking about the U1 close down, and I got to thinking about Iain 
Farrell's post on design.canonical.com : 
http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/
in this post Iain provides some resources - unfortunately these are sitting on 
Ubuntu One storage, and will ultimately disappear.  
The link for the resource in question if you're interested is : 
http://ubuntuone.com/1UtWyqSmCXQy3bs3ijTwck
So I was wondering if we could use Google to identify pages where there a links 
in the form of http://ubuntuone.com/ and flag those pages as potentially 
broken when Ubuntu One goes kaput.
I had a quick go, but I know absolutely nothing about scanning Google.  At 
least if we could scan - say ubuntu.com, askubuntu.com, canonical.com etc.  
We'd find any places where canonical are linking to content that is potentially 
going to be broken.  For internal pages then this content can be moved, and the 
link repointed.  For external stuff (like comments) then perhaps some system of 
notifying the post authors, or even storing the content and re-writing the link 
( not sure here).
There is the potential that wiki pages could also be similarly affected.  
 I tried using wayback machine to cache Iain's assets, but I got a 504 Gateway 
Time-out error - I had thought we could plough the future broken links into the 
wayback machine but that looks like it's a no go.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Norman Silverstone]

I'm on 12.04, and having tons of trouble with Chrome, but not on
Ancestry. But I do see that the post you're directed to was published in
2010, so I should think the info was out of date anyway. I don't have
the problems in Firefox, so I think the problem is Chrome rather than
Ancestry or my OS.

Dianne

My thanks to all those who came to my assistance. I took the bull by the 
horns, cleared the cache, re-booted and all is well again.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Simon Greenwood]

Chrome does occasionally have trouble with ancestry.co.uk (as it does with
other forms to varying degrees in my experience) but you shouldn't have to
do anything to fix it, and if the instructions are from 2010 then they are
very out of date so just ignore them. These things eventually either come
to the attention of site owners or Google and are fixed in one way or
another.

s/


On 18 December 2013 09:11, Norman Silverstone  wrote:

> On 18/12/13 08:39, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
>
>> On 18/12/13 07:36, Paul Mellors wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Norman
>>>
>>> Are you having problems with the site, as using a default chrome should
>>> just work fine [after looking at that link], chrome browser is the same
>>> as it would be in windows there really isn't anything to disimilar.
>>>
>>
>> As would be firefox. Both browsers employ a lot of common code across
>> all Operating Systems.
>>
>> Skimming through the "optimising" suggestions I didn't see very much
>> that was Windows specific apart from adding a trusted certificate (which
>> is a *doddle* in Firefox BTW).
>>
>> What is/are the issue(s) you are having?
>>
>
> When making a search, after a few clicks of the mouse the Ancestry screen
> stops responding. Sometimes, after logging in to the site there is no
> further response. What's putting me off going ahead with the suggestions is
> that the screen shots presented in the 'how to' are very different to my
> screen for Google Chrome.
>
> Norman
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Dianne]

Hi Norman,

I'm on 12.04, and having tons of trouble with Chrome, but not on 
Ancestry. But I do see that the post you're directed to was published in 
2010, so I should think the info was out of date anyway. I don't have 
the problems in Firefox, so I think the problem is Chrome rather than 
Ancestry or my OS.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Norman Silverstone]

On 18/12/13 08:39, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 18/12/13 07:36, Paul Mellors wrote:

Hello Norman

Are you having problems with the site, as using a default chrome should
just work fine [after looking at that link], chrome browser is the same
as it would be in windows there really isn't anything to disimilar.


As would be firefox. Both browsers employ a lot of common code across
all Operating Systems.

Skimming through the "optimising" suggestions I didn't see very much
that was Windows specific apart from adding a trusted certificate (which
is a *doddle* in Firefox BTW).

What is/are the issue(s) you are having?


When making a search, after a few clicks of the mouse the Ancestry 
screen stops responding. Sometimes, after logging in to the site there 
is no further response. What's putting me off going ahead with the 
suggestions is that the screen shots presented in the 'how to' are very 
different to my screen for Google Chrome.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 18/12/13 07:36, Paul Mellors wrote:

Hello Norman

Are you having problems with the site, as using a default chrome should
just work fine [after looking at that link], chrome browser is the same
as it would be in windows there really isn't anything to disimilar.


As would be firefox. Both browsers employ a lot of common code across 
all Operating Systems.


Skimming through the "optimising" suggestions I didn't see very much 
that was Windows specific apart from adding a trusted certificate (which 
is a *doddle* in Firefox BTW).


What is/are the issue(s) you are having?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Paul Mellors]

Hello Norman

Are you having problems with the site, as using a default chrome should
just work fine [after looking at that link], chrome browser is the same as
it would be in windows there really isn't anything to disimilar.

MooDoo


On 18 December 2013 07:28, Norman Silverstone  wrote:

> On 17/12/13 21:34, Paul Sladen wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Norman Silverstone wrote:
>>
>>> I am using a web site which requires
>>>
>>
>> What is the website?
>>
>
> Ancestry.co.uk and here are the instructions
>
>  http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5253
>>
>
> Norman
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Norman Silverstone]

On 17/12/13 21:34, Paul Sladen wrote:

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Norman Silverstone wrote:

I am using a web site which requires


What is the website?


Ancestry.co.uk and here are the instructions


http://help.ancestry.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5253


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Paul Sladen]

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013, Norman Silverstone wrote:
> I am using a web site which requires

What is the website?

-Paul


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[ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

[Norman Silverstone]

I am using a web site which requires me to carry out some optimising 
procedures non of which cover Linux OS. Is this the place to ask for 
advice or would it be best if I contacted Google?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Code sharing

[Muñiz Piniella , Andrés]

El 04/07/2013 10:27, "Tyler J. Wagner"  escribió:
>
> On 2013-07-03 23:43, Tony Pursell wrote:
> > I think you are misunderstanding what it says.  It talks about
encryption
> > software, that is software that encrypts data, and an obligation to tell
> > the US government about it. I suppose that is because such software can
be
> > used for all sorts of illegal purposes ...
>
> No, it's because encryption is classified as a munition. In warfare,
> encrypting your communications is key to avoiding interception. Read this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_in_the_United_States
>
> Regards,
> Tyler
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Code sharing

[Tyler J. Wagner]

On 2013-07-03 23:43, Tony Pursell wrote:
> I think you are misunderstanding what it says.  It talks about encryption
> software, that is software that encrypts data, and an obligation to tell
> the US government about it. I suppose that is because such software can be
> used for all sorts of illegal purposes ...

No, it's because encryption is classified as a munition. In warfare,
encrypting your communications is key to avoiding interception. Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_in_the_United_States

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Code sharing

[Tony Pursell]

On 3 July 2013 22:55, Andrés Muñiz Piniella  wrote:

> Hi a policy question,
>
> I just read this (1). It seems that some countries can not use the code
> from google code if it is encrypted software? If someone puts some GPL
> code, will this not be against it? Do others like launchpad, github have
> similar restrictions?
>
> This prism business is really getting to me.
>
>
>
>
> (1)https://code.google.com/projecthosting/terms.html
> --
>

I think you are misunderstanding what it says.  It talks about encryption
software, that is software that encrypts data, and an obligation to tell
the US government about it. I suppose that is because such software can be
used for all sorts of illegal purposes, for instance drug dealers can
encrypt messages sent between themselves for criminal purposes that the US
government may want to intercept.  Of course, it may also want to intercept
messages for other purposes, such as intelligence gathering, hence your
reference to prism.  This condition is imposed because the code is hosted
in the USA.  Code hosted elsewhere would, I suppose, not come under these
rules.

The other part refers to those countries subject to US export regulations,
such as Cuba has been for many years and Syria has been since the troubles
started there more recently.  Export of computer code is subject to the
same regulations as the export of other goods to these countries.

Hope that explains things a bit for you.

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[ubuntu-uk] Google Code sharing

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Hi a policy question,

I just read this (1). It seems that some countries can not use the code from 
google code if it is encrypted software? If someone puts some GPL code, will 
this not be against it? Do others like launchpad, github have similar 
restrictions?

This prism business is really getting to me.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Nexus 7

[Andres Muniz]

- Mensaje original -
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:02:58 +0100
> Alan Pope  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > 
> > > Can it run Jack Audio and puredata?
> > > 
> > 
> > I'll find out next week.
> > 
> 
> Excellent
> 
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4677528
> 
> and 
> 
> http://www.chizang.net/alex/blog/2012/10/20/3440/
> 
> 'core' Ubuntu to me would include sound, and, as this is a 'known'
> hardware platform, it could all become most interesting.
> 
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> 

my wife has one... Dual boot would be great!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Nexus 7

[keith]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 20:02:58 +0100
Alan Pope  wrote:

[snip]
> 
> > Can it run Jack Audio and puredata?
> >
> 
> I'll find out next week.
> 

Excellent

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4677528

and 

http://www.chizang.net/alex/blog/2012/10/20/3440/

'core' Ubuntu to me would include sound, and, as this is a 'known'
hardware platform, it could all become most interesting.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Nexus 7

[Alan Pope]

On 20/10/12 18:45, keith wrote:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxMTA

Has anyone seen one of these?



I have two which I'm taking to UDS, one will get flashed with Ubuntu.


Can it run Jack Audio and puredata?



I'll find out next week.

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[ubuntu-uk] Google Nexus 7

[keith]

Hello All

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxMTA

Has anyone seen one of these?

Can it run Jack Audio and puredata?

And if anyone on this well connected e-mail list has any playtime, can
it cope with din

http://dinisnoise.org/

If so, for a ton and two thirds, there could be one in my future...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome wont load......

[scoundrel50a]

On 07/04/12 13:35, Colin Law wrote:

On 7 April 2012 13:28, John  wrote:

On 05/04/12 11:39, Colin Law wrote:

On 5 April 2012 11:10, scoundrel50awrote:

I am running in a partition Ubuntu 11.10, and today I got a rather large
update. and after rebooting, Google chrome stopped loading. The window
appeared for about 2 seconds after you click on the GC logo, and it then
closes.anybody have any ideas why that should be happening?

Could be this problem possibly
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser
segfault on startup.

Colin


Sorry its taken me so long to get back to you, still having problems, still
wont load...using 12.04 most of the time, but would still like to know
why I cant get Chrome to load in 11.10.

Have you got the new kernel as noted in the bug?  In a terminal type
uname -a
to find which one you have.  The bug is marked Fix Committed but not
Fix Released, which should mean it is not available yet.

Colin


Just got the update, and its worked sorry about that..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome wont load......

[Colin Law]

On 7 April 2012 13:28, John  wrote:
> On 05/04/12 11:39, Colin Law wrote:
>>
>> On 5 April 2012 11:10, scoundrel50a  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am running in a partition Ubuntu 11.10, and today I got a rather large
>>> update. and after rebooting, Google chrome stopped loading. The window
>>> appeared for about 2 seconds after you click on the GC logo, and it then
>>> closes.anybody have any ideas why that should be happening?
>>
>> Could be this problem possibly
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
>> linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser
>> segfault on startup.
>>
>> Colin
>>
> Sorry its taken me so long to get back to you, still having problems, still
> wont load...using 12.04 most of the time, but would still like to know
> why I cant get Chrome to load in 11.10.

Have you got the new kernel as noted in the bug?  In a terminal type
uname -a
to find which one you have.  The bug is marked Fix Committed but not
Fix Released, which should mean it is not available yet.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome wont load......

[John]

On 05/04/12 11:39, Colin Law wrote:

On 5 April 2012 11:10, scoundrel50a  wrote:

I am running in a partition Ubuntu 11.10, and today I got a rather large
update. and after rebooting, Google chrome stopped loading. The window
appeared for about 2 seconds after you click on the GC logo, and it then
closes.anybody have any ideas why that should be happening?

Could be this problem possibly
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser
segfault on startup.

Colin

Sorry its taken me so long to get back to you, still having problems, 
still wont load...using 12.04 most of the time, but would still like 
to know why I cant get Chrome to load in 11.10.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome wont load......

[Colin Law]

On 5 April 2012 11:10, scoundrel50a  wrote:
> I am running in a partition Ubuntu 11.10, and today I got a rather large
> update. and after rebooting, Google chrome stopped loading. The window
> appeared for about 2 seconds after you click on the GC logo, and it then
> closes.anybody have any ideas why that should be happening?

Could be this problem possibly
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/972821
linux-image-3.0.0-18-generic makes apport-gtk and chromium-browser
segfault on startup.

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[ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome wont load......

[scoundrel50a]

I am running in a partition Ubuntu 11.10, and today I got a rather large 
update. and after rebooting, Google chrome stopped loading. The window 
appeared for about 2 seconds after you click on the GC logo, and it then 
closes.anybody have any ideas why that should be happening?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Plus Page

[Josh Holland]

Hi Rob,

On 11 November 2011 00:14, Rob Beard  wrote:
> While I think about it, does anyone have any good guides to the new G+
> pages?  I've set one up for an organization I'm involved with but I can't
> for the life of me figure out how to add extra page admins.

I don't think you can yet, though I believe it is very high up the
Google todo list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Plus Page

[Rob Beard]

On 10/11/11 23:23, Alan Bell wrote:

You will be glad to know we are up there with the cool kids and have our
very own G+ page for you to encircle and reshare stuff from

https://plus.google.com/110834053865602900585

I will be posting announcements of interesting stuff there, along with
all the other places where interesting stuff gets posted.

Alan.



I've added the page to my circles :-)

While I think about it, does anyone have any good guides to the new G+ 
pages?  I've set one up for an organization I'm involved with but I 
can't for the life of me figure out how to add extra page admins.


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[ubuntu-uk] Google Plus Page

[Alan Bell]

You will be glad to know we are up there with the cool kids and have our 
very own G+ page for you to encircle and reshare stuff from


https://plus.google.com/110834053865602900585

I will be posting announcements of interesting stuff there, along with 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+ & Gwibber [Pidgin & Empathy even]

[Paul Tansom]

** Jon Farmer  [2011-07-11 23:44]:
> On Jul 11, 2011 7:15 PM, "SuperEngineer"  wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm... do we know if Gwibber [et al] plan to include Google+ - or is it
> > just just a bit too experimental as yet?
> 
> It would help if it did twitter properly before it tried anything else.  It
> is without question the most awful client I have had the misfortune to
> encounter and I have tried a few.
** end quote [Jon Farmer]

Agreed, which makes it extremely unfortunate that it is the only client I've
found on any platform that supports the range of services I want to connect to.
I'm still desperately looking for a half usable client that supports at least
Twitter and Identica, but also Facebook (spit) and I guess now Google+
(Diaspora*?!). If it could handle multiple accounts that would be even better
(Twitter and Identica wise that is). Even if I narrow down the requirements to
just Twitter I can't find a client that I'm completely happy with :(

Empathy is somewhat lacking too unfortunately. It frequently fails to connect
to some accounts (not ones I really care about thankfully, and that is likely
due to the services themselves I suspect). There's a few features I miss from
Pidgin (although I'd have to power it up to remember the, as I've been using
Empathy for a while now - last seen time is one, although it is just last time
you were both on at the same time). The main annoyance at the moment, though,
is that I can't find a way to add a certificate authority to it so my Jabber
server throws up an error each time I connect (and I'd rather do it properly
than just ignore the error - these things annoy me!).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+ & Gwibber [Pidgin & Empathy even]

[Jon Farmer]

On Jul 11, 2011 7:15 PM, "SuperEngineer"  wrote:
>
> Hmmm... do we know if Gwibber [et al] plan to include Google+ - or is it
> just just a bit too experimental as yet?

It would help if it did twitter properly before it tried anything else.  It
is without question the most awful client I have had the misfortune to
encounter and I have tried a few.

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[ubuntu-uk] Google+ & Gwibber [Pidgin & Empathy even]

[SuperEngineer]

Hmmm... do we know if Gwibber [et al] plan to include Google+ - or is it
just just a bit too experimental as yet?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Liam Gallear]

Cheers Popey

Thanks and Regards,

Liam Gallear

On 10 Jul 2011, at 23:11, Alan Pope  wrote:

> On 10 July 2011 23:11, Liam Gallear  wrote:
>> Any chance I can get one too so I can jump on the bandwagon?
> 
> Done.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[scoundrel50a]

Sent

On 11/07/11 06:39, James Thomas wrote:


Hey Alan,

Could you send me an invite.
Cheers

On Jul 10, 2011 2:27 PM, "Alan Pope" > wrote:
> On 10 July 2011 14:24, Ken Adams > wrote:

>> I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.
>>
>
> Done.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[James Thomas]

Hey Alan,

Could you send me an invite.
Cheers
On Jul 10, 2011 2:27 PM, "Alan Pope"  wrote:
> On 10 July 2011 14:24, Ken Adams  wrote:
>> I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.
>>
>
> Done.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Alan Pope]

On 10 July 2011 23:11, Liam Gallear  wrote:
> Any chance I can get one too so I can jump on the bandwagon?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Liam Gallear]

Any chance I can get one too so I can jump on the bandwagon?

Thanks and Regards,

Liam Gallear

On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:06, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> On 10 July 2011 15:03, Bea Groves  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> If I smile sweetly and flutter my eyelashes d'you think I could have one
>> too?
>> 
> 
> I suppose so. :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 15:03, Bea Groves  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> If I smile sweetly and flutter my eyelashes d'you think I could have one
> too?
>

I suppose so. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Bea Groves]

Hi!

If I smile sweetly and flutter my eyelashes d'you think I could have one
too?


On 10/07/11 14:34, scoundrel50a wrote:
> Sent
> 
> On 10/07/11 14:31, Steve wrote:
>> Please would someone be kind enough to send Mr a Google + invite.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Steve
>> -- 
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> J Fernyhough  wrote:
>>
>> On 10 July 2011 14:26, Bob Giles  wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > I have yet to convince anybody to send an invite to Google+! Please can
>> > somebody put me out of my misery!
>> >
>> > TIA.
>> >
>> > Bob
>>
>> Sent.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Bob Giles]

Thanks for the invites. Appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[scoundrel50a]

Sent

On 10/07/11 14:31, Steve wrote:

Please would someone be kind enough to send Mr a Google + invite.

Thanks in advance

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J Fernyhough  wrote:

On 10 July 2011 14:26, Bob Giles  wrote:
>  Hi guys,
>
>  I have yet to convince anybody to send an invite to Google+! Please can
>  somebody put me out of my misery!
>
>  TIA.
>
>  Bob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[scoundrel50a]

On 10/07/11 14:24, Ken Adams wrote:

I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.

Rgds Ken




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Steve]

Please would someone be kind enough to send Mr a Google + invite.

Thanks in advance

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J Fernyhough  wrote:

On 10 July 2011 14:26, Bob Giles  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have yet to convince anybody to send an invite to Google+! Please can
> somebody put me out of my misery!
>
> TIA.
>
> Bob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Ken Adams]

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 14:05 +0100, SuperEngineer wrote:

Thanks for all the invites guys

Rgds Ken


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 14:26, Bob Giles  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have yet to convince anybody to send an invite to Google+! Please can
> somebody put me out of my misery!
>
> TIA.
>
> Bob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Alan Pope]

On 10 July 2011 14:24, Ken Adams  wrote:
> I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 14:24, Ken Adams  wrote:
> I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.
>
> Rgds Ken

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[Bob Giles]

Hi guys,

I have yet to convince anybody to send an invite to Google+! Please can 
somebody put me out of my misery!


TIA.

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[ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Ken Adams]

I too am looking for a kind person to pass an invite over to me please.

Rgds Ken



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[SuperEngineer]

On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 14:01 +0100, J Fernyhough wrote:
> On 10 July 2011 13:59, SuperEngineer  wrote:
> > Anyone fancy chucking a G+ invite in this direction [pretty please].
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Bill B. [suprengr]
> >
> 
> Sent.
> 

Thanks a mil... now onboard  ;)
Regards,
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[ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[SuperEngineer]

Thanks JF

 Forwarded Message 
From: SuperEngineer 
Reply-to: boo...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Google+?
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:59:36 +0100

Anyone fancy chucking a G+ invite in this direction [pretty please].

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 13:59, SuperEngineer  wrote:
> Anyone fancy chucking a G+ invite in this direction [pretty please].
>
> Cheers,
> Bill B. [suprengr]
>

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[ubuntu-uk] Google+?

[SuperEngineer]

Anyone fancy chucking a G+ invite in this direction [pretty please].

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Avi  wrote:

> scoundrel50a wrote:
>
> > Have you seen what Google are doing, they are going to ban people
> > from Google+ that dont have a valid name and public profile, so all
> > private profiles from July 31st, will be banned.
>
> That sounds reasonable for a social networking site. What constitutes
> a 'public profile'?
>
>
Name and Gender.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Avi]

scoundrel50a wrote:

> Have you seen what Google are doing, they are going to ban people
> from Google+ that dont have a valid name and public profile, so all
> private profiles from July 31st, will be banned.

That sounds reasonable for a social networking site. What constitutes
a 'public profile'?

> Think they are shooting themselves in the foot there, and Google+
> hasnt even taken off yet.

Well, rather they set the rules *now* so that people know what they're
getting into than fall into Facebook's trap of getting told off every
time they do anything to the privacy settings. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:46 PM, scoundrel50a wrote:


> Have you seen what Google are doing, they are going to ban people from
> Google+ that dont have a valid name and public profile, so all private
> profiles from July 31st, will be banned.
>
>
Seems fair enough to me. All that is displayed is a name and a gender. It's
no more than I can see on anyones facebook page.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[scoundrel50a]

On 10/07/11 12:41, Steve Flynn wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, scoundrel50a > wrote:


On 10/07/11 11:20, Steve Flynn wrote:

Hi can you send me an invite as well, it would be nice to see what
it looks like. jake...@gmail.com 


Looks like I was beaten to it. That'll teach me to do the ironing 
 which my wife truly wishes someone would do.




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Thank you, I see you in my Notifications area

Have you seen what Google are doing, they are going to ban people from 
Google+ that dont have a valid name and public profile, so all private 
profiles from July 31st, will be banned.


Think they are shooting themselves in the foot there, and Google+ hasnt 
even taken off yet.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, scoundrel50a wrote:

> **
> On 10/07/11 11:20, Steve Flynn wrote:
>


> Hi can you send me an invite as well, it would be nice to see what it looks
> like. jake...@gmail.com
>
>
Looks like I was beaten to it. That'll teach me to do the ironing  which
my wife truly wishes someone would do.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Bill Cumming]

Nope,

Not when their decency filter is giving false positives on the profiles
names (like mine), so I'm effectively banned from g+ till the reactivate my
account.

People have been waiting over a week to get their profile back online!!

It's a total pain!!
On Jul 10, 2011 11:58 AM, "Steve Fisher"  wrote:
> So the important question is how can we use Google+ in a constructive way
to
> improve the Group/Our Lives/whatever. Diaspora contunues to be a bit of a
> damp squib :(
>
> Google+ is very underwhelming at the moment, all I have managed to do so
far
> is spam people in my address book (only one mail, but to a lot of
people!).
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[scoundrel50a]

On 10/07/11 11:20, Steve Flynn wrote:

Strange, I was invited on Friday evening - straight in.

Since then I've invited 4 others - they are all straight in too, as 
they are all now signed up.


Sent you an invite anyway Jason - ignore it if you already have one.

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looks like. jake...@gmail.com


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Fisher]

So the important question is how can we use Google+ in a constructive way to
improve the Group/Our Lives/whatever.  Diaspora contunues to be a bit of a
damp squib :(

Google+ is very underwhelming at the moment, all I have managed to do so far
is spam people in my address book (only one mail, but to a lot of people!).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Fisher]

So have I (deluge of invites) :)

On 10 July 2011 11:51, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> On 10 July 2011 11:32, Steve Flynn  wrote:
> >>
> >> You're going to get a flood of people asking for invites now. ;)
> >>
> >> (me included! :D )
> >>
> >
> > Done. Email inbound
> >
> >>
> >> Apparently the method of starting a circle and adding people via email
> >> works when inviting doesn't.
> >>
> >
> > I suspect you could be correct there. I needed to add you to a circle,
> then
> > view your profile, and then "Send and Invite".
> >
>
> Thank you muchly. I feel my geek needs sated. :)
>
> On 10 July 2011 11:41, Andrew Savin  wrote:
> > Any chance of an invite?
> >
> > Andrew
>
> Sending...
>
> Jonathon
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 11:32, Steve Flynn  wrote:
>>
>> You're going to get a flood of people asking for invites now. ;)
>>
>> (me included! :D )
>>
>
> Done. Email inbound
>
>>
>> Apparently the method of starting a circle and adding people via email
>> works when inviting doesn't.
>>
>
> I suspect you could be correct there. I needed to add you to a circle, then
> view your profile, and then "Send and Invite".
>

Thank you muchly. I feel my geek needs sated. :)

On 10 July 2011 11:41, Andrew Savin  wrote:
> Any chance of an invite?
>
> Andrew

Sending...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Andrew Savin]

On 10/07/11 11:32, Steve Flynn wrote:
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM, J Fernyhough > wrote:


On 10 July 2011 11:20, Steve Flynn mailto:anothermindb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Strange, I was invited on Friday evening - straight in.
> Since then I've invited 4 others - they are all straight in too,
as they are
> all now signed up.
> Sent you an invite anyway Jason - ignore it if you already have one.
>
>>

You're going to get a flood of people asking for invites now. ;)

(me included! :D )


Done. Email inbound

Apparently the method of starting a circle and adding people via email
works when inviting doesn't.


I suspect you could be correct there. I needed to add you to a circle, 
then view your profile, and then "Send and Invite".

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:27 AM, J Fernyhough wrote:

> On 10 July 2011 11:20, Steve Flynn  wrote:
> >
> > Strange, I was invited on Friday evening - straight in.
> > Since then I've invited 4 others - they are all straight in too, as they
> are
> > all now signed up.
> > Sent you an invite anyway Jason - ignore it if you already have one.
> >
> >>
>
> You're going to get a flood of people asking for invites now. ;)
>
> (me included! :D )
>
>
Done. Email inbound


> Apparently the method of starting a circle and adding people via email
> works when inviting doesn't.
>
>
I suspect you could be correct there. I needed to add you to a circle, then
view your profile, and then "Send and Invite".

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Jacob Mansfield wrote:

> would you be able to send me one?
>
>
 I already have - to this address: cyberjacob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[J Fernyhough]

On 10 July 2011 11:20, Steve Flynn  wrote:
>
> Strange, I was invited on Friday evening - straight in.
> Since then I've invited 4 others - they are all straight in too, as they are
> all now signed up.
> Sent you an invite anyway Jason - ignore it if you already have one.
>
>>

You're going to get a flood of people asking for invites now. ;)

(me included! :D )

Apparently the method of starting a circle and adding people via email
works when inviting doesn't.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Jacob Mansfield]

would you be able to send me one?
Jacob Mansfield
Programmer
CyberKing Solutions™

Air conditioned environment - do not open windows!

Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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L$+++()>$ E(?) W+++$ N(?)>+ o k(+/++) w---()>$ O? M(+)>$ V? PS(+) PE
Y(+)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Steve Flynn]

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jacob Mansfield wrote:

> On 9 July 2011 20:16, mac  wrote:
>
>  Google has opened Google plus to all account holders. See
>> http://plus.google.com
>
>
> no they haven't
>


Strange, I was invited on Friday evening - straight in.

Since then I've invited 4 others - they are all straight in too, as they are
all now signed up.

Sent you an invite anyway Jason - ignore it if you already have one.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Jacob Mansfield]

On 9 July 2011 20:16, mac  wrote:

> Google has opened Google plus to all account holders. See
> http://plus.google.com


no they haven't
Jacob Mansfield
Programmer
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Air conditioned environment - do not open windows!

Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[mac]

On 7 Jul 2011, at 10:32, Dave Hanson  wrote:
> I'm keen to get on this if anyone could invite me please?

Google has opened Google plus to all account holders. See http://plus.google.com

mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Dave Hanson]

I'm keen to get on this if anyone could invite me please?

Best Regards,

Dave Hanson





On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Dino T.  wrote:

> yeah closed already :( backlog of registrations.
>
>
> *Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 7 July 2011 10:01, J Fernyhough  wrote:
>
>> On 7 July 2011 09:33, Dino T.  wrote:
>> >
>> > Registration is open again.
>> >
>> > Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Closed again (unless there's a trick to it). :(
>>
>> If anyone already on would like to add me to a circle I would be
>> forever grateful. :)
>>
>> Jonathon
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[Dino T.]

yeah closed already :( backlog of registrations.


*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 7 July 2011 10:01, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> On 7 July 2011 09:33, Dino T.  wrote:
> >
> > Registration is open again.
> >
> > Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
> >
> >
>
> Closed again (unless there's a trick to it). :(
>
> If anyone already on would like to add me to a circle I would be
> forever grateful. :)
>
> Jonathon
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google+

[J Fernyhough]

On 7 July 2011 09:33, Dino T.  wrote:
>
> Registration is open again.
>
> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
>
>

Closed again (unless there's a trick to it). :(

If anyone already on would like to add me to a circle I would be
forever grateful. :)

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[ubuntu-uk] Google account cracked

[Paul Mellors]

Hi All

It appears that last night my google account got cracked and some
pillock from Mexico has sent an email from it.  If you've received an
email from me within the last 12 hours, please delete it..

Sorry
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[Mark Fraser]

On Monday 21 Feb 2011 07:21:39 Dan Attwood wrote:
> Google earth used to be part of the medibuntu report. Is that not still the
> case?

No, it is no longer in the Medibuntu repository. 
http://packages.medibuntu.org/maverick/index.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[Dan Attwood]

Google earth used to be part of the medibuntu report. Is that not still the
case?
On Feb 20, 2011 5:31 PM, "Barry Drake"  wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:08 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
>
> Thanks. I missed that one. It would have worked for my sister 'as is'
> if I'd given her the link and told her to download then click on the
> file. They only seem to offer it as 32bit and I'd have to use --force
> to try it on my 64bit Maverick (if that would work)  ah well,
> can't have everything.
>
> Thanks again, Barry.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[Barry Drake]

On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:08 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth

Thanks.  I missed that one.  It would have worked for my sister 'as is'
if I'd given her the link and told her to download then click on the
file.  They only seem to offer it as 32bit and I'd have to use --force
to try it on my 64bit Maverick (if that would work)    ah well,
can't have everything.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[Dianne Reuby]

On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 17:04 +, Barry Drake wrote:
> Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
> she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
> work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
> something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
> Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
> here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
> repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
> very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
> do?  Or am I missing something?

I'm sure I didn't install using a command line - I have Ubuntu 10.10. Or
have I forgotten a moment of genius?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[J Fernyhough]

On 20 February 2011 17:04, Barry Drake  wrote:
> Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
> she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
> work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
> something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
> Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
> here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
> repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
> very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
> do?  Or am I missing something?


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth

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[ubuntu-uk] Google Earth .....

[Barry Drake]

Hi there   My sister asked me to pop over there this morning because
she really wanted to use Google Earth.  It is not difficult to make it
work, but I had to get and install stuff by the commandline.  Not
something I could have talked her through over the phone.  I wonder if
Google Earth has been asked to offer Deb packages?  Is there a history
here? If so, can someone fill me in please?  I notice in the Ubuntu
repository there is a 'Google Earth Package maker'.  That struck me as
very odd.  Why not just a simple shell script that does what I had to
do?  Or am I missing something?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[alan c]

David Jones wrote:
> One thought I had about the Google Chrome OS is Microsoft, or the 
> european legislators will push for the web browser to removed from the 
> OS to match what they expect from Microsoft.

iirc the euro. requirement was not so much for there to be no browser
at all, but for the option of allowing other browsers and a removal of
IE if the user wanted.

The situation now proposed by MS that Windows 7 will be shipped with
no browser at all in europe was something the legislators expressed
surprise about, and suggested that was not necessary.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=MEMO/09/272&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en
'in terms of potential remedies if the Commission were to find that
Microsoft had committed an abuse, the Commission has suggested that
consumers should be offered a choice of browser, not that Windows
should be supplied without a browser at all.'

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Bruce Beardall]

I think it's still early days for those kinds of concerns. The Chrome OS
will have to face being the new contender for at least a little while, yet.
And like others have said, we want some high profile non-Apple competition
to raise awareness of the choices available. If that is achieved, it'll
change the marketplace anyway and largely make the web browser issue a moot
point.

2009/7/8 David Jones 

> One thought I had about the Google Chrome OS is Microsoft, or the
> european legislators will push for the web browser to removed from the
> OS to match what they expect from Microsoft.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[David Jones]

One thought I had about the Google Chrome OS is Microsoft, or the 
european legislators will push for the web browser to removed from the 
OS to match what they expect from Microsoft.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Darren.Mansell]

> 
> darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > With Microsoft, I think it's very difficult to quantify them into
> > necessarily good or bad due to their size. They undoubtedly have
some
> > very shady business practices but I'm sure some sections have no
agendas
> > besides making software.
> 
> Have you seen such things as this:
> http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958
> 
> extracts:
> ===
> "Independent" consultants should write columns and articles, give
> conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our
> behalf (and setting them up as experts in the new technology,
> available for just $200/hour). "Independent" academic sources should
> be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). "Independent"
> courseware providers should start profiting from their early
> involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage
> should be sought and turned to our advantage.
> [...]
> A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is
> packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but
> who are in fact strong supporters of our technology.
> ===
> 
> If some sections have other agendas then they will not be following
> the company manuals will they?
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> 

Yes, although I'd not read that actual article. I've followed their
shenanigans for a while now mainly because I'm shocked at what they are
allowed to get away with. That text is now quite old and while I don't
for one moment think they have turned over a new leaf they certainly
seem to be more disjointed and schizophrenic in what they do. Of course
it could all be some good cop, bad cop routine but it's difficult to see
how a corporation that large would be capable of organising such a
thing.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[alan c]

darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
[...]

> With Microsoft, I think it's very difficult to quantify them into
> necessarily good or bad due to their size. They undoubtedly have some
> very shady business practices but I'm sure some sections have no agendas
> besides making software.

Have you seen such things as this:
http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958

extracts:
===
"Independent" consultants should write columns and articles, give
conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our
behalf (and setting them up as experts in the new technology,
available for just $200/hour). "Independent" academic sources should
be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). "Independent"
courseware providers should start profiting from their early
involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage
should be sought and turned to our advantage.
[...]
A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is
packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but
who are in fact strong supporters of our technology.
===

If some sections have other agendas then they will not be following
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Darren.Mansell]

> >>>
> >> I'm not sure how correct this is, but I read somewhere (might've
been
> on
> >> here :P) that the HTML5 standard doesn't actually include the
> opensource
> >> media stuff, because Microsoft and I think another corporation
didn't
> >> like it. However, Mozilla and most other groups have included it
> anyway.
> >>
> >> Tell me if I'm wrong, I probably am, but just thought I'd mention
it :)
> >>
> >>
> > Nokia submitted a document that looked like it was written by a 5
year
> old which basically said 'We don't want OGG media in HTML5 just in
case
> someone finds a patent after we have implemented it that means
everyone
> has to pay for it.' And then recommended to use h.264 because it
already
> is covered by patents. It's a ridiculous stance so good on Mozilla if
> they've gone against it.
> >
> I wonder if Nokia have got an axe to grind?  Do they have any patents
on
> H264 or AAC?
> 
> Nice to see that Microsoft used OGG in Halo ;-)
> 
> http://www.postneo.com/2003/10/14/halo-for-pc-uses-ogg-vorbis
> 
> Rob
> 
> 

It seems a strange stance for Nokia to take given their reliance on
Maemo and Linux.

With Microsoft, I think it's very difficult to quantify them into
necessarily good or bad due to their size. They undoubtedly have some
very shady business practices but I'm sure some sections have no agendas
besides making software.

Darren

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Rob Beard]

darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
>>>   
>> I'm not sure how correct this is, but I read somewhere (might've been on
>> here :P) that the HTML5 standard doesn't actually include the opensource
>> media stuff, because Microsoft and I think another corporation didn't
>> like it. However, Mozilla and most other groups have included it anyway.
>>
>> Tell me if I'm wrong, I probably am, but just thought I'd mention it :)
>>
>> 
> Nokia submitted a document that looked like it was written by a 5 year old 
> which basically said 'We don't want OGG media in HTML5 just in case someone 
> finds a patent after we have implemented it that means everyone has to pay 
> for it.' And then recommended to use h.264 because it already is covered by 
> patents. It's a ridiculous stance so good on Mozilla if they've gone against 
> it.
>   
I wonder if Nokia have got an axe to grind?  Do they have any patents on 
H264 or AAC?

Nice to see that Microsoft used OGG in Halo ;-)

http://www.postneo.com/2003/10/14/halo-for-pc-uses-ogg-vorbis

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Farran Lee]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:27 +0100, darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Nokia submitted a document that looked like it was written by a 5 year old 
> which basically said 'We don't want OGG media in HTML5 just in case someone 
> finds a patent after we have implemented it that means everyone has to pay 
> for it.' And then recommended to use h.264 because it already is covered by 
> patents. It's a ridiculous stance so good on Mozilla if they've gone against 
> it.
> 
> http://www.xiph.org/press/2007/w3c/ Xiph statement 
> 
> http://digg.com/software/Nokia_wants_W3C_to_remove_Ogg_from_upcoming_HTML5_standard
>  Article about Nokia getting involved for no reason
> 
> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/video/positions/Nokia.pdf Nokia's paper. Obviously 
> presentation, spelling and grammar wasn't an important issue.
> 
> Darren

how funny :) Adults can be so childish :P

and yeah, ff3.5 includes it already - the first install initial page has
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Farran Lee]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:18 +0100, Bruce Durling wrote:
> Apple killed the open source (ogg) codec stuff with some help from
> Google from what I've read. There seem to be some worries about ogg
> infringing patents.
> 
> Good overview here: http://lwn.net/Articles/340132/
> 
> cheers,
> Bruce
> 

thanks, that looks pretty good :D haven't had time to read the whole
page, but the initial email makes sense.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Darren.Mansell]

> >
> >
> 
> I'm not sure how correct this is, but I read somewhere (might've been on
> here :P) that the HTML5 standard doesn't actually include the opensource
> media stuff, because Microsoft and I think another corporation didn't
> like it. However, Mozilla and most other groups have included it anyway.
> 
> Tell me if I'm wrong, I probably am, but just thought I'd mention it :)
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> 
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Nokia submitted a document that looked like it was written by a 5 year old 
which basically said 'We don't want OGG media in HTML5 just in case someone 
finds a patent after we have implemented it that means everyone has to pay for 
it.' And then recommended to use h.264 because it already is covered by 
patents. It's a ridiculous stance so good on Mozilla if they've gone against it.

http://www.xiph.org/press/2007/w3c/ Xiph statement 

http://digg.com/software/Nokia_wants_W3C_to_remove_Ogg_from_upcoming_HTML5_standard
 Article about Nokia getting involved for no reason

http://www.w3.org/2007/08/video/positions/Nokia.pdf Nokia's paper. Obviously 
presentation, spelling and grammar wasn't an important issue.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Bruce Durling]

2009/7/8 Farran Lee :
> I'm not sure how correct this is, but I read somewhere (might've been on
> here :P) that the HTML5 standard doesn't actually include the opensource
> media stuff, because Microsoft and I think another corporation didn't
> like it. However, Mozilla and most other groups have included it anyway.
>
> Tell me if I'm wrong, I probably am, but just thought I'd mention it :)

Apple killed the open source (ogg) codec stuff with some help from
Google from what I've read. There seem to be some worries about ogg
infringing patents.

Good overview here: http://lwn.net/Articles/340132/

cheers,
Bruce

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Farran Lee]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 09:51 +0100, Dale Clarke wrote:
> The telegraph have also made the same mistake as the Beeb, even worse
> though is some of the so called non-linux tech news sites have made
> the same presumptions.
> 
> For me is the HTML 5 standard, does that mean Google might go the
> opensourced route with their media playing etc.
> 
> Dale
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, James Milligan 
> wrote:
> Haha. A blow to Linux - it IS Linux!
> 
> James
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> 
> On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:24, Steve Cook
> 
> wrote:
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> >>
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> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
> >>
> >> Based on Linux kernel etc.
> >>
> >> ...or you could just get Ubuntu :-)
> >>
> > But the Beeb doesn’t quite understand
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8139711.stm
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I'm not sure how correct this is, but I read somewhere (might've been on
here :P) that the HTML5 standard doesn't actually include the opensource
media stuff, because Microsoft and I think another corporation didn't
like it. However, Mozilla and most other groups have included it anyway.

Tell me if I'm wrong, I probably am, but just thought I'd mention it :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Matt Lopez-Dias]

An OS from google can only be a good thing for ubuntu, getting peoples
heads around the idea of alternative OSs. More high profile choices
will equal more progress. Right now almost anyone i speak to has no
idea what the OS is, and that you can even run a non apple computer on
anything but windows.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Dale Clarke]

Alan

I think Google will have to look at partners in this and as Ubuntu has a
very large user base, surely, it would be foolish to ignore them. But then
again they did ignore Sun's java for Google Chrome.

With Google introducing new HTML 5 (Web application 1) goodies (Google Wave)
this year and what has been mooted for Google Docs with this new standard I
see a completely different computing experience.

Dale

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Alan Pope  wrote:

> 2009/7/8 James Milligan :
> > Haha. A blow to Linux - it IS Linux!
> >
>
> A blow to linux distros..
>
> How many OEMs ship Ubuntu as an easily available option on
> netbooks/laptops/desktops/ right now, and how many will in 2010 when
> Google OS releases?
>
> How many will Google have?
>
> Will this make Ubuntu irrelevent for large swathes of web users?
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Dale Clarke]

The telegraph have also made the same mistake as the Beeb, even worse though
is some of the so called non-linux tech news sites have made the same
presumptions.

For me is the HTML 5 standard, does that mean Google might go the
opensourced route with their media playing etc.

Dale

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:45 AM, James Milligan  wrote:

> Haha. A blow to Linux - it IS Linux!
>
> James
>
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> James Milligan
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>
> On 8 Jul 2009, at 09:24, Steve Cook 
> wrote:
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > James Milligan wrote:
> >>
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
> >>
> >> Based on Linux kernel etc.
> >>
> >> ...or you could just get Ubuntu :-)
> >>
> > But the Beeb doesn’t quite understand
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8139711.stm
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Alan Pope]

2009/7/8 James Milligan :
> Haha. A blow to Linux - it IS Linux!
>

A blow to linux distros..

How many OEMs ship Ubuntu as an easily available option on
netbooks/laptops/desktops/ right now, and how many will in 2010 when
Google OS releases?

How many will Google have?

Will this make Ubuntu irrelevent for large swathes of web users?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[James Milligan]

Haha. A blow to Linux - it IS Linux!

James

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> James Milligan wrote:
>> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
>>
>> Based on Linux kernel etc.
>>
>> ...or you could just get Ubuntu :-)
>>
> But the Beeb doesn’t quite understand
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8139711.stm
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Bruce Beardall]

I generally find the Beeb's tech and IT reporting to be limited. There are
some things the Beeb does very well, but Tech isn't one of them.

2009/7/8 Steve Cook 

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> >
> > ...or you could just get Ubuntu :-)
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome OS Announced

[Steve Cook]

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James Milligan wrote:
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
> 
> Based on Linux kernel etc.
> 
> ...or you could just get Ubuntu :-)
> 
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