[Ugnet] Introduction-Project African Women

2004-11-17 Thread Anyomokolo

Patriarchy
Definition-Dictionary.com
A social system in which the father is the head of the family and men have authority over women and children

Hello, my name is Anyomokolo (Anyo). I was born and raised in in Northern Uganda. I speak and write Luo fluent. I started an independent research about African culture and tradition four years ago. The research focused on the status of women in Africa, hence, the subject of this project: the AFRICAN GIRL CHILD. There is no institution or single individual who has, to the best of my knowledge, conducted this type of research, which makes this project unique and the first of its kind in the history of women’s struggle against patriarchy. The conclusion of this research was that African wives experience domestic violence NOT because they are financially dependent but rather becau
 se they
 are mentally underdeveloped, but most important is that African men are aware of an African woman’s mental capacity. They are also aware that this is caused by cultural and traditional teachings. This project is intended to empower African women of all ages with knowledge, not resources. This is knowledge that is basic but very alien to almost ‘all'?women. This knowledge is men’s social secret, at least for now. The goal of this project is to give African culture a major facelift but only African women can do this and only when they have full knowledge of this social secret. 

A Closer Look @ African Culture and Tradition (Patriarchy)
The African Girl Child
Patriarchy is a culture whose mission is to disable a girl child’s mental development from childhood by replacing our moral conviction (innate beliefs) with culture and tradition and religion so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men. Patriarchy is a social system designed to suppress a girl child’s mental development so that we are incapable of intellectually performing mental tasks. Patriarchy is a social system that is designed to brainwash girls from childhood so that we neglect ourselves as women and live to care for men’s best interests. Patriarchy is a social system that creates a disproportionately wide gap between boys?and girls?intellectual and mental development (IMD). The African Girl Child’s IMD is severely impaired from childhood because she is coded and programmed with patriarchies acquired and systematically arranged collection of laws that is clearly, as history has proven, disadvantag
 eous to
 the African Woman (AW). The AW does not have the mental capability to synthesize information beyond this code. 
The African Boy Child’s IMD is not disabled in any way because there is no culture and tradition to replace his innate and very archaic beliefs. This is the reason for the disproportionately wide gap between men and women intellectual ability. Am I saying that African men are much more intellectually advanced than African women? Yes, in terms of basic gender interaction and or relationship. The African woman’s mental growth, independence and freedom is retarded from childhood because she is programmed not to comprehend information beyond patriarchy (culture and tradition), which is social system designed to take care of men’s interests. This is the reason African men do not want to abolish this ruthless social system. This is the reason African women are so easily controlled, so easily used and so easily abused at such an alarming rate. 
With so many women in Africa who are very mentally and intellectually underdeveloped, in comparison to their male age mates, I can safely define Africa’s current social system as "A culture that gives individual men maximum authority to socially, mentally, physically and sexually control, torture, use, abuse, demoralize and immobilize and mistreat African women with no limitations. It happens every day in Africa because there is no culture to replace and/or suppress men's innate behavior from childhood so that they are more loving/caring and less violent towards women. In other words, there is no cultu
 re to
 interfere with a boy’s mental development. 

90 Minutes
90 minutes will educate African women about a girl’s mental (brain) development and how culture and tradition interferes with this basic human right. 
90 minute is intended to maximize the African Girl Child’s and woman's mental and intellectual development by empowering her with knowledge that is, at the moment, a social secret for the ‘privileged' few.  90 minutes will offer her a culture that is rich with knowledge of womanhood. This is knowledge that women have been denied for many generations so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men. 90 minutes is intended to empower African women of all ages. 90 will educate the African man and redefine the status of the African woman as a wife, mother, companion and a lover. I hope that 90 minutes will produce

Re: ugnet_: Re: ANYOMOKOLO'S WMD-KNOWLEDGE

2004-08-09 Thread Anyomokolo
Hahahahaa lol lol lol lol .@ "unintentionally"
 
What do you mean? Are you saying that my acquisition of knowledge was a BIG MISTAKE? lol
Damn flipping right!  But too damn flipping late.
 
lol lol lol lol lol..I like that. "Unintentional"
 
Anyo
 
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Members:
 
Ha ha ha ha ha lol lol lol @ "...a man gave me this knowledge."
 
I don't always agree with you 100% but you are right in your quoted words above.  Men unintentionally give women knowledge and growth in certain areas of their lives.  These men don't even realize it.
 
 
Zakoomu M.
=====Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
<sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!>>
 
Patriarchy brainwashed me for more than 25yrs, therefore rest assured that my anger will carry on for another 25 years. I am armed with the  KNOWLEDGE and knowledge is power.
 
By the way, a man gave me this knowledge. I am sure he wanted me to use for something. I never had the chance to ask him but I think that he would be proud to know that I making the best of it. 
 
 Weapon of Male Destruction: Knowledge.
 
You got that flipping right!
 
Anyo
 
 
===kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
I agree with you though not completely but what are some of the responses from the men. It would be good to read n compare what they think as i would imagine the reponse of a man in your village assuimng its the 'elite' or educated are the ones responding. you can keep their identity for purposes of confidentiality.I see you dancing ding ding because the men are angry ha ha ha Massaging man's psyche turns Anyo on, my observation dont shoot lol. You are an arrogantly proud daughter of the land. Tame your anger sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!All da best in yo research.In how languages has patraichy been translated**--- In
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I have never posted a single message to equal number of egroups and received so many angry responses from men. It seems that the men who read me everyday, simply ignored me because they thought that I was wasting my time. "Culture-AConspiracyAgainstWomen" hit patriarchy right below the belt. That is good. > > I wait to see what men will say when I tap deep into their psyche as to why men beat their wives. I am very confident that I am the only in the whole who knows the real answer. By the way, it takes me a few minutes to write what I researched and investigated for four damn long years. I am a woman who has lost the ability to do a lot things including thinking and asking and anwering questions about why men do what they do to women. > > I am very proud of me. I am a woman with knowledge and KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I want
  all
 women to have knowledge like myself. > > KNOWLEDGE IS POWER> > Anyomokolo Has Power> > Anyo> > ==> > > mmuganzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Anyo> Patriarchy is definately responsible for the surbodination of > women..lol> > In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo wrote:> > > > > > Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.> > > > By An African Woman > > > > My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any > status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. > > > > __> > > > Introduction:> > > > Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system > whose mission is to 
 retard a
 girl's mental development by replacing > our moral conviction with culture and tradition and religion so that > we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate > fear of our vagina and each other's penis. Patriarchy's mission is to > disables a girl's mental development so that we are intellectually > incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against > evil. ©> > > > Child Mental Development.> > > > I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall > translate. You don't have to read any text in order to know this but > I like to connect the dots in simple terms. > > > > We all know that there is something unique about a child's (under > 13yrs old) ability to learn and 

ugnet_: ANYOMOKOLO'S WMD-KNOWLEDGE

2004-08-08 Thread Anyomokolo
kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
<sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!>>
 
Patriarchy brainwashed me for more than 25yrs, therefore rest assured that my anger will carry on for another 25 years. I am armed with the  KNOWLEDGE and knowledge is power.
 
By the way, a man gave me this knowledge. I am sure he wanted me to use for something. I never had the chance to ask him but I think that he would be proud to know that I making the best of it. 
 
 Weapon of Male Destruction: Knowledge.
 
You got that flipping right!
 
Anyo
 
 
kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with you though not completely but what are some of the responses from the men. It would be good to read n compare what they think as i would imagine the reponse of a man in your village assuimng its the 'elite' or educated are the ones responding. you can keep their identity for purposes of confidentiality.I see you dancing ding ding because the men are angry ha ha ha Massaging man's psyche turns Anyo on, my observation dont shoot lol. You are an arrogantly proud daughter of the land. Tame your anger sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!All da best in yo research.In how languages has patraichy been translated**--- In
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I have never posted a single message to equal number of egroups and received so many angry responses from men. It seems that the men who read me everyday, simply ignored me because they thought that I was wasting my time. "Culture-AConspiracyAgainstWomen" hit patriarchy right below the belt. That is good. > > I wait to see what men will say when I tap deep into their psyche as to why men beat their wives. I am very confident that I am the only in the whole who knows the real answer. By the way, it takes me a few minutes to write what I researched and investigated for four damn long years. I am a woman who has lost the ability to do a lot things including thinking and asking and anwering questions about why men do what they do to women. > > I am very proud of me. I am a woman with knowledge and KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I want
  all
 women to have knowledge like myself. > > KNOWLEDGE IS POWER> > Anyomokolo Has Power> > Anyo> > > > > mmuganzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Anyo> Patriarchy is definately responsible for the surbodination of > women..lol> > In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo wrote:> > > > > > Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.> > > > By An African Woman > > > > My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any > status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. > > > > __> > > > Introduction:> > > > Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system > whose mission is to retard a girl's mental development by replacing > our moral conviction with culture
  and
 tradition and religion so that > we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate > fear of our vagina and each other's penis. Patriarchy's mission is to > disables a girl's mental development so that we are intellectually > incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against > evil. ©> > > > Child Mental Development.> > > > I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall > translate. You don't have to read any text in order to know this but > I like to connect the dots in simple terms. > > > > We all know that there is something unique about a child's (under > 13yrs old) ability to learn and retain information. The brain of a > child younger than 13, stores whatever information it is given > because it does not have a choice. It is the reason we say that "if > you teach your kid
 s this,
 then that, or that they were (not) raised > properly, or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…"> > > > > > > > In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will > determine your character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can > also be unlearnt especially if the environment does not accommodate > it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability to select what sort > of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature of > a teenager. They rebel because their brain can select. This also > explains why Indians like Indian food/music/cultural dances, Africans > like African food/music/cultural dances. These are foods, music, > dances, they ate, heard an

ugnet_: ANYOMOKOLO'S WMD-KNOWLEDGE

2004-08-08 Thread Anyomokolo
kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
<sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!>>
 
Patriarchy brainwashed me for more than 25yrs, therefore rest assured that my anger will carry on for another 25 years. I am armed with the  KNOWLEDGE and knowledge is power.
 
By the way, a man gave me this knowledge. I am sure he wanted me to use for something. I never had the chance to ask him but I think that he would be proud to know that I making the best of it. 
 
 Weapon of Male Destruction: Knowledge.
 
You got that flipping right!
 
Anyo
 
 
kikati_2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree with you though not completely but what are some of the responses from the men. It would be good to read n compare what they think as i would imagine the reponse of a man in your village assuimng its the 'elite' or educated are the ones responding. you can keep their identity for purposes of confidentiality.I see you dancing ding ding because the men are angry ha ha ha Massaging man's psyche turns Anyo on, my observation dont shoot lol. You are an arrogantly proud daughter of the land. Tame your anger sis, after 4 yours there should not be a any strain of anger. as you are now armed with a WEAPON OF MALE DESTRUCTION...knowledge!All da best in yo research.In how languages has patraichy been translated**--- In
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I have never posted a single message to equal number of egroups and received so many angry responses from men. It seems that the men who read me everyday, simply ignored me because they thought that I was wasting my time. "Culture-AConspiracyAgainstWomen" hit patriarchy right below the belt. That is good. > > I wait to see what men will say when I tap deep into their psyche as to why men beat their wives. I am very confident that I am the only in the whole who knows the real answer. By the way, it takes me a few minutes to write what I researched and investigated for four damn long years. I am a woman who has lost the ability to do a lot things including thinking and asking and anwering questions about why men do what they do to women. > > I am very proud of me. I am a woman with knowledge and KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I want
  all
 women to have knowledge like myself. > > KNOWLEDGE IS POWER> > Anyomokolo Has Power> > Anyo> > > > > mmuganzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi Anyo> Patriarchy is definately responsible for the surbodination of > women..lol> > In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo wrote:> > > > > > Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.> > > > By An African Woman > > > > My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any > status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. > > > > __> > > > Introduction:> > > > Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system > whose mission is to retard a girl's mental development by replacing > our moral conviction with culture
  and
 tradition and religion so that > we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate > fear of our vagina and each other's penis. Patriarchy's mission is to > disables a girl's mental development so that we are intellectually > incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against > evil. ©> > > > Child Mental Development.> > > > I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall > translate. You don't have to read any text in order to know this but > I like to connect the dots in simple terms. > > > > We all know that there is something unique about a child's (under > 13yrs old) ability to learn and retain information. The brain of a > child younger than 13, stores whatever information it is given > because it does not have a choice. It is the reason we say that "if > you teach your kid
 s this,
 then that, or that they were (not) raised > properly, or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…"> > > > > > > > In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will > determine your character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can > also be unlearnt especially if the environment does not accommodate > it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability to select what sort > of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature of > a teenager. They rebel because their brain can select. This also > explains why Indians like Indian food/music/cultural dances, Africans > like African food/music/cultural dances. These are foods, music, > dances, they ate, heard an

Re: ugnet_: Project-African Women's Issues

2004-08-08 Thread Anyomokolo
Private wrote:
<

Thank you in anticipation a prompt response!
Have a great weekend!
##>>___I have posted this message to more than 200 African Internet groups from all 52 African countries.  1. Can be outside but willing to translate2. I am refering to Africa as a continent. All parts of Africa3. As many African languages as possible-My limitations are translators4. Women's and Girl child's health. For further details, candidate interested can send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]Anyo_-Bandele Djassi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greetings,
 
Can you give a little bit more information on the project?
 
Thanks.
Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello members, I am African woman who was born and raised in Africa but now I live in America. I am working on a project that is related to issues that affects African women who live in Africa. I would like to contact women who might be interested in this project. Potential candidates must have email address and access to the Internet. This project involves translation from Enlgish, therefore, those interested must be fluent in both English and at least one other native African language. Candidates will be compensated for their commitment to this project. For more details, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please allow two weeks for your email to be processed.
 
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Anyo


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ugnet_: Project-African Women's Issues

2004-08-07 Thread Anyomokolo
Hello members, I am African woman who was born and raised in Africa but now I live in America. I am working on a project that is related to issues that affects African women who live in Africa. I would like to contact women who might be interested in this project. Potential candidates must have email address and access to the Internet. This project involves translation from Enlgish, therefore, those interested must be fluent in both English and at least one other native African language. Candidates will be compensated for their commitment to this project. For more details, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please allow two weeks for your email to be processed.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyo
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ugnet_: Re: Culture-ConspiracyAgainstWomen

2004-08-05 Thread Anyomokolo

I have never posted a single message to equal number of egroups and received so many angry responses from men. It seems that the men who read me everyday, simply ignored me because they thought that I was wasting my time. "Culture-AConspiracyAgainstWomen" hit patriarchy right below the belt. That is good. 
I wait to see what men will say when I tap deep into their psyche as to why men beat their wives. I am very confident that I am the only in the whole who knows the real answer. By the way, it takes me a few minutes to write what I researched and investigated for four damn long years. I am a woman who has lost the ability to do a lot things including thinking and asking and anwering questions about why men do what they do to women. 
I am very proud of me. I am a woman with knowledge and KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. I want all women to have knowledge like myself. 
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
Anyomokolo Has Power
Anyo
 mmuganzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi AnyoPatriarchy is definately responsible for the surbodination of women..lolIn [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.> > By An African Woman > > My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. > > __> > Introduction:> > Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system whose mission is to retard a girl's mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and tradition and religion so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate fear of our vagina and each other's penis. Patriarchy's mission is to disables a gi
 rl's
 mental development so that we are intellectually incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against evil. ©> > Child Mental Development.> > I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall translate. You don't have to read any text in order to know this but I like to connect the dots in simple terms. > > We all know that there is something unique about a child's (under 13yrs old) ability to learn and retain information. The brain of a child younger than 13, stores whatever information it is given because it does not have a choice. It is the reason we say that "if you teach your kids this, then that, or that they were (not) raised properly, or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…"> > > > In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will determine your character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can also be unl
 earnt
 especially if the environment does not accommodate it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability to select what sort of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature of a teenager. They rebel because their brain can select. This also explains why Indians like Indian food/music/cultural dances, Africans like African food/music/cultural dances. These are foods, music, dances, they ate, heard and danced to before they turned 13 years old. When a person becomes an adult (18yrs +), the information stored in a child's subconscious, will be retrieved and will dominate their adulthood. > > This explains why girls are taught how to be wives from infancy. Think about it, does it make sense to teach a 10yr old girl how to, one day, take care of a 25 year old man who in most cases is 10 years older? Why does culture not wait until the girl child is mature (14 yrs old) and able to synthesize informatio
 n. The
 answer is because they would be too old to brainwash. Their brain will filter all the garbage in culture, tradition and religion that is clearly disadvantageous to them as girls. Which leads to my next question, how would women's daily interaction with men be if we were not coded and programmed with patriarchy's systematically arranged collection of laws that is clearly disadvantageous to us girls/women? One thing for sure is that we would not be so easily controlled and used and abused by men at such alarming rates. Nature has provided as women with an innate defense mechanism. > > Patriarchy, is a school where new born girls are sent to learn sexual and social morals. The foundation of this curriculum is to teach a girl that the only license for pregnancy is marriage, which sounds like a good thing. At this school, a girl must be able to define and understand words that are used to belittle, degrade and 
 severely
 taunt a woman who deviates from these sexual and social norms. Girls are taught how to avoid being stigmatized and associated with these words. The core of this universal school for girls, is to teach us that our destiny is to be a wife and as I mentioned before, culture does not offer us a any choices. > > How does culture retard a girls mental development? > > How do

ugnet_: [abujaNig] Culture-ConspiracyAgainstWomen

2004-08-04 Thread Anyomokolo

Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.

By An African Woman 

My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any status from any part 
of the world o challenge my introduction. 

__

Introduction:

Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system whose mission is to 
retard a girl’s mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and 
tradition and religion so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because 
men have innate fear of our vagina and each other’s penis. Patriarchy’s mission is to 
disables a girl’s mental development so that we are intellectually incapable of 
performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against evil. ©

Child Mental Development.

I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall translate. You don’t have 
to read any text in order to know this but I like to connect the dots in simple terms. 

We all know that there is something unique about a child’s (under 13yrs old) ability 
to learn and retain information. The brain of a child younger than 13, stores whatever 
information it is given because it does not have a choice. It is the reason we say 
that “if you teach your kids this, then that, or that they were (not) raised properly, 
or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…”



In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will determine your 
character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can also be unlearnt especially if 
the environment does not accommodate it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability 
to select what sort of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature 
of a teenager. They rebel because their brain can select. This also explains why 
Indians like Indian food/music/cultural dances, Africans like African 
food/music/cultural dances. These are foods, music, dances, they ate, heard and danced 
to before they turned 13 years old. When a person becomes an adult (18yrs +), the 
information stored in a child’s subconscious, will be retrieved and will dominate 
their adulthood. 

This explains why girls are taught how to be wives from infancy. Think about it, does 
it make sense to teach a 10yr old girl how to, one day, take care of a 25 year old man 
who in most cases is 10 years older? Why does culture not wait until the girl child is 
mature (14 yrs old) and able to synthesize information. The answer is because they 
would be too old to brainwash. Their brain will filter all the garbage in culture, 
tradition and religion that is clearly disadvantageous to them as girls. Which leads 
to my next question, how would women’s daily interaction with men be if we were not 
coded and programmed with patriarchy’s systematically arranged collection of laws that 
is clearly disadvantageous to us girls/women? One thing for sure is that we would not 
be so easily controlled and used and abused by men at such  alarming rates. Nature has 
provided as women with an innate defense mechanism. 

Patriarchy, is a school where new born girls are sent to learn sexual and social 
morals. The foundation of this curriculum is to teach a girl that the only license for 
pregnancy is marriage, which sounds like a good thing. At this school, a girl must be 
able to define and understand words that are used to belittle, degrade and severely 
taunt a woman who deviates from these sexual and social norms. Girls are taught how to 
avoid being stigmatized and associated with these words. The core of this universal 
school for girls, is to teach us that our destiny is to be a wife and as I mentioned 
before, culture does not offer us a any choices. 

How does culture retard a girls mental development? 

How does culture retard a girls mental development so that she is intellectually 
incapable of performing mental task which makes her vulnerable, easy to control and be 
used and abused by a men? 

It is inconceivable to find any two 10 year old African girls in the playground 
talking about “I don’t want to get married because husbands beat their wives“. Or 
talking about what do when a husband beats his wife. Whereas the same 10 year old 
brain is being mercilessly overloaded with teaching about future responsibilities as a 
wives. The same 10 yr old is mercilessly being brainwashed to think about nothing but 
following culture and tradition. The same 10 yr old is working around the clock, day 
in and out, to avoiding being taunted with words that are, unknown to her, coined to 
suppress her mental development. In other words, this 10 year old brain, like a stem 
cell, has been programmed to think about nothing but culture and tradition. But why 
isn’t culture also telling/teaching these same 10 year olds, the disadvantages of 
being a wife? I mean, the intensive labor like a horse 24 hrs, sexual slavery 
oppression and use and abuse, physical assault etc. The answer ! is because a 10
 yr will retain this information and as an adult it will be retrieved. I

ugnet_: Culture-ConspiracyAgainstWomen

2004-08-04 Thread Anyomokolo

Patriarchy-A Conspiracy Against Women.
By An African Woman 
My introduction is the Gospel Truth. I would like any man of any status from any part of the world to challenge my introduction. 
__
Introduction:
Patriarchy (culture and tradition and religion) is a social system whose mission is to retard a girl’s mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and tradition and religion so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men because men have innate fear of our vagina and each other’s penis. Patriarchy’s mission is to disables a girl’s mental development so that we are intellectually incapable of performing mental tasks to defend ourselves against evil. ©
Child Mental Development.
I have read a lot about child mental development and I shall translate. You don’t have to read any text in order to know this but I like to connect the dots in simple terms. 
We all know that there is something unique about a child’s (under 13yrs old) ability to learn and retain information. The brain of a child younger than 13, stores whatever information it is given because it does not have a choice. It is the reason we say that “if you teach your kids this, then that, or that they were (not) raised properly, or this was how my parents taught me, and bla bla…”

In other words, what you learn before you turn 14yrs old, will determine your character as an adult, but every learnt behavior can also be unlearnt especially if the environment does not accommodate it. A brain older than 14yrs old has the ability to select what sort of information it stores. This also explains the rebellious nature of a teenager. They rebel because their brain can select. This also explains why Indians like Indian food/music/cultural dances, Africans like African food/music/cultural dances. These are foods, music, dances, they ate, heard and danced to before they turned 13 years old. When a person becomes an adult (18yrs +), the information stored in a child’s subconscious, will be retrieved and will dominate their adulthood. 
This explains why girls are taught how to be wives from infancy. Think about it, does it make sense to teach a 10yr old girl how to, one day, take care of a 25 year old man who in most cases is 10 years older? Why does culture not wait until the girl child is mature (14 yrs old) and able to synthesize information. The answer is because they would be too old to brainwash. Their brain will filter all the garbage in culture, tradition and religion that is clearly disadvantageous to them as girls. Which leads to my next question, how would women’s daily interaction with men be if we were not coded and programmed with patriarchy’s systematically arranged collection of laws that is clearly disadvantageous to us girls/women? One thing for sure is that we would not be so easily controlled and used and abused by men at such  alarming rates. Nature has provided as women with an innate defense mechanism. 
Patriarchy, is a school where new born girls are sent to learn sexual and social morals. The foundation of this curriculum is to teach a girl that the only license for pregnancy is marriage, which sounds like a good thing. At this school, a girl must be able to define and understand words that are used to belittle, degrade and severely taunt a woman who deviates from these sexual and social norms. Girls are taught how to avoid being stigmatized and associated with these words. The core of this universal school for girls, is to teach us that our destiny is to be a wife and as I mentioned before, culture does not offer us a any choices. 
How does culture retard a girls mental development? 
How does culture retard a girls mental development so that she is intellectually incapable of performing mental task which makes her vulnerable, easy to control and be used and abused by a men? 
It is inconceivable to find any two 10 year old African girls in the playground talking about “I don’t want to get married because husbands beat their wives“. Or talking about what do when a husband beats his wife. Whereas the same 10 year old brain is being mercilessly overloaded with teaching about future responsibilities as a wives. The same 10 yr old is mercilessly being brainwashed to think about nothing but following culture and tradition. The same 10 yr old is working around the clock, day in and out, to avoiding being taunted with words that are, unknown to her, coined to suppress her mental development. In other words, this 10 year old brain, like a stem cell, has been programmed to think about nothing but culture and tradition. But why isn’t culture also telling/teaching these same 10 year olds, the disadvantages of being a wife? I mean, the intensive labor like a horse 24 hrs, sexual slavery oppression and use and abuse, physical assault etc. The answer !
  is
 because a 10 yr will retain this information and as an adult it will be retrieved. In other words, this would be a fully mentally development woma

ugnet_: Homosexuality Is A Choice

2004-07-25 Thread Anyomokolo
To Author-Homosexuality Is A Choice
 
I am an African woman who has a degree in "sexicology". So, let us discuss some sexicology 101 without any vocabularies.  
 
The desire to have sex is beyond our control. Our eyes sees 'it' or hands touches it, our brain automatically interprets 'it' and we respond physiologically with an erection or vaginal discharge, which is indicative of our desire to penetrate or be penetrated. ssS!! Ouch!!
 I have been with many men, at least many enough to know that it takes very little, seconds, to trigger an erection. A criteria for an erection is the mental or physical presents of a vagina. 
 
I believe that homosexuality is both a natural and an acquired response. 
 
Acquired
 
The degree of cruelty that the opposite sex exerts on each other, can set the brain to 'refuse' to interpret to achieve the physiological responses that I described above. Although acquired from the environment, these individuals are not making choices.  
Let me acknowledge that there are homosexuals who make choices to satisfy their curiosity and/or experiment. 
 
Natural
 
High testosterone and estrogen levels can determine which gender we are sexually attracted to and the brain interprets either way. Personally, I have very high level, which means my brain always interprets.  
 
Normal  
 
We refer to heterosexuals as 'normal' because product of the union between them is normal, a child. Heterosexuality serves the purpose of reproduction which is the reason for intercourse. Hence, accepted as 'normal'. However, we forget that their response to the opposite sex is also processed by the primary center for the regulation and control of bodily activities: THE BRAIN. 
 
Mr. Author, next time you see a homosexual, think of the possibility that their brain can't interpret to produce an erection or a vaginal discharge. 
 
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ugnet_: Validating Manhood

2004-07-18 Thread Anyomokolo

I had lunch with this guy today; we talked a lot about gender related issues. I mean, need I tell  you that!?  I told him that agot a long list of reasons for not getting married. The first on my list, agot a lot of first eh, is that I am not giving up my freedom and schedule to the daily compromise of marriage because as a woman, marriage is making a commitment to dedicate my whole life, 24 hours a day, to validate FLIPPING manhood and ain't validating SH*T.
The guy did not say a word for nearly 2-3 minutes. And then he looked at me and said, "I am 36yrs old and I have heard "flip" and "sh*t" many times, but I have never heard it come out of anybody's lips so strong. Never! In my 36yrs in this world, I have never." 
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RE: ugnet_: [abujaNig] (unknown)

2004-06-24 Thread Anyomokolo
I don't get it. How do I post a message on abujaNig and it ends up on Ugandanet? What is the connection?
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2004-06-24 Thread Anyomokolo
I don't get it. How do I post a message on abujaNig and it ends up on Ugandanet? What is the connection?
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ugnet_: [abujaNig] ToMen-FromAWoman

2004-06-19 Thread Anyomokolo

To Men:

I like to introduce myself this way because I noticed that there are over 1000 members 
of this group and you probably wouldn't have time to read all messages posted and 
processed everyday by all members. I assume most members here are Nigerians, not that 
it makes a difference to me. However, I would like to inform all men, Nigerian or 
otherwise, that I am 'cool' woman as long as you don't disrespect me around here. 

As of today, whenever you scroll down the list and see my name, I am the first person 
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ugnet_: TillDeathDoUsPart-MyAss

2004-06-18 Thread Anyomokolo
If you have access to Fox News then you must of heard, three weeks ago, that in America 2/3 divorce between couple over age 40, initiated by the woman. This purports my piece below. I guess for most men the penis begins to retire after age 40. "Most" because some of my much older men on AcholiNet have defied nature. The truth is that men can't accept a woman rejecting their large clitoris, so they wrote the flipped Bible to protect their ego and bind us in a contract: "till death do us part" and "No man shall sleep with another man's wife" whatever! To me having sex with one man for the rest of my life is insane. Seriously insane. 
Anyway read my experience in church four months ago.
God bless America.
 
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I went to church in Brooklyn, NY, on Saturday, February 07, 2004 with friends who know that God is my worst enemy. It was a small crowd where they all know each other. I told my friends to tell the priests to not bother me. It was a spiritual healing prayer to mark the end of one month fasting. It did not take long before these two women, evangelist Mary and another sister Catherine, who were standing on 'stage', started screaming like real…I will be kind and not insult them. Just as I was about to give sister Catherine credit for calming down and talking in a low quiet, nice voice, she started down the steps towards me and said, “Lets welcome sister Sophia”. She was about five feet away when she switched the microphone to her right hand and looked directly at me. I stared right back and almost said don’t 'flipping' touch me but the fierce _expression_ on my stone cold face stopped her on her tracks. 
 
It was time for individual spiritual cleansing prayer when the pastor, Anthony, owner of the church and whose wife is my coworker, started signaling me. I shook my head and he acknowledged but the grin on his face was one of, you have to receive God in your life today. You have to get saved today. Whatever the 'flip' that means! Not that I really give a sh*t. I had observed enough and was not interested in having any stranger(s) scream at me with their hands on my head. I was also afraid of being perhaps hypnotized and brainwashed so that I begin to live the artificial life of a Christian where I would wake up in the middle of the night and start talking to myself like an idiot.  
 
After the service, sister Catherine asked why I did not accept the lord. I told her that I am a feminist and I find religion very gender biased, besides, I would not subscribe to a culture that restricts my sexual freedom. She asked me to be specific and I told her that if God wanted my body to be penetrable by only one man, he should have created it as such. I also expressed my disappointment with the biblical preconceived notion that women lack intellect, therefore, should not speak in church but ask questions and listen to the teachings of the Bible from their husbands.  
 
She interrupted by explaining that it was not lack of intellect but rather because some women were being unruly and disruptive in church. I asked her to guess what these women could have been unruly and disruptive about in church. I suggested that it was possible that these women were challenging ‘till death do us part’ and ‘no man shall have sex with another man’s wife’ because their sexual freedom was being stripped away. I added that these women knew that it would be a terrible emotional and sexual torture to be with one man for a long time and that at a certain age, a man’s ‘penis’ gets weak, he wouldn't be able to have erection anymore due to old age, and that would be time for a woman to seek a younger and stronger man. She responded with some nonsense of her own and I called it quit. 
 
By this time, I wanted to split her skull open and replace her brain with half of mine. Instead, I told her not to waste her time with me because I am too old to be brainwashed so that I live my life for a man’s best interest. I concluded with: “I would not subscribe to any oppressive cultural norm that is clearly disadvantageous to a woman but advantageous to a man. I am a woman who cherishes her sexual freedom. Religion is not for me and I am not interested in listening to any bullshit about God (men) and his stupid words. 
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ugnet_: Fwd: Patriarchy or Men?

2004-06-16 Thread Anyomokolo

I receive many email like this whenever I join any women's group. This is not the best offer I have received but it the one that made me cry alot. This woman does not know that I have been extremely angry for four years and defying patriarchy (culture and tradition) is the only way to deal with it. Like I said, happiness is the state of mind. Her email magnifies my happiness a zillion folds. 
This is an offer I can't refuse.
 
Sophia
 
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Dear Sophia--
 
I read with great interest your email about your struggle against patriarchy.  I am part of an organization that is working in soldarity with Iraqi women's indenous struggle against patriarchal practices which are on the rise as a result of the US occupation:  practices such as religious ritual killings ("honor" killings)  and forced veiling, polygamy etc.  We work with a number of Iraqi and Iranian women who would be interested in connecting to an African woman with similiar beliefs. Your email, "Patriarchy or men?" was very concentrated. I must say that you write extremely well with alot of emotions. Your conclusion was very powerful. Very powerful!  Your conclusion is the heart of patriarchy. I have never met an African feminist and/or woman of your caliber. You are a very intelligent and very knowledgeable African woman
 . You
 are very well informed. You are indeed the nerve center of every African young girl and every woman's subconscious. I work with many feminist publishers who could make your knowledge within the reach of every young girl who would like to meet you. 
 
If you are within the US, we shall offer you a trip to NYC next month to give a 30 minute presentation specifically talking about your experience as an African girl child "brainwashed by patriarchy" and your life as an adult woman. You will also have the opportunity to meet with alot women form different parts of the world with similar beliefs.
 
On behalf of our organization, we would like to extend our offer to join   in the struggle against patriarchy. Please accept this offer and contact us as soon as possible. We would appreciate it very much.
 
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Please ‘Anonymous’, don’t use “men” and “patriarchy” interchangeably.  Patriarchy is a culture whose mission is to retard girls’ mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and tradition.  Patriarchy is a social system that raises girls to be so stupid. Let me use the acceptable term, raises girls to follow “culture and tradition and to submit to their husbands and accept the inhumane and degrading conditions of marriage. Patriarchy is a social system that is designed to brainwash women to believe that what is important to men, is also what is important to them. Patriarchy is a social system that brainwashes girls to believe that they are born for one reason and only one reason: Make men happy at all costs and by all means
 necessary. Patriarchy is cult where women are used and abused sexually, physically and psychologically. Patriarchy is anything and everything that does not retard erection and sexual pleasure for men. Patriarchy is a woman giving up her freedom in the name of marriage. Patriarchy is religion. Patriarchy is culture and tradition. Patriarchy is a social system that dominates the world. Patriarchy is the Taliban man in Afghanistan and they are in every society, race, and culture. 
With so many women around the world who are so mentally underdevelop as a result of these mechanisms of oppression, I can safely define Patriarchy as “A culture that gives men maximum rights to socially, mentally, physically and sexually control, torture, use, abuse, demoralize and immobilize and mistreat women with no limitations.  
At a very pe

Re: ugnet_: NYT: Genital Cutting Shows Signs of Losing Favor in Africa

Rehema, why do you think this tradition of cutting girls is practiced? 
 
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Guillaume Bonn/Think, for The New York TimesIsnino Shuriye, front, and Mariam Bagayoko are among the African women laying down their knives and stopping the traditional rite of genital cutting. 
 




 


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Genital Cutting Shows Signs of Losing Favor in AfricaBy MARK LACEY




AIROBI, Kenya, June 7 - Isnino Shuriye still remembers the pride she felt years ago when she leaned over each of her three daughters, knife in hand, and sliced into their genitals.
Each time, as the blood started to flow, she quickly dropped the knife and picked up a needle and thread. Quickly, expertly, she sewed her daughters' vaginas almost shut.
"I was full of pride," she recalled recently. "I felt like I was doing the right thing in the eyes of God. I was preparing them for marriage by sealing their vaginas."
Now she feels like a butcher, a sinner, a mother who harmed her own flesh and blood, not to mention the thousands of other girls she says she circumcised in the last quarter-century as part of a traditional rite still common in Africa.
Slowly, genital cutting is losing favor. Parliaments are passing laws forbidding the practice, which causes widespread death and disfigurement. Girls are fleeing their homes to keep their vaginas intact. And the women who have been carrying out the cutting, and who have been revered by their communities for doing so, are beginning to lay down their knives.
Ms. Shuriye, an elderly mother of eight who is known far and wide in northeastern Kenya for her expertise as a genital cutter, is one of them.
When local members of Womankind Kenya, a grass-roots group opposing the practice, visited Ms. Shuriye's hut outside Garissa two years ago, she chased them off her property.
This was something her mother had done before her. She started as an apprentice while still an adolescent by holding down girls' legs for her mother to perform the rite, which opponents call genital mutilation. "I thought my mother would curse me from the grave if I didn't carry on the tradition," she said.
There were tangible benefits as well. She had prestige in her community and earned a good income, more than her husband did as a camel herder before he died of tuberculosis.
She said she had no use for those people who came around denouncing her way of life.
But the opponents were a determined lot. They knew that Ms. Shuriye was one of the longest-serving genital cutters around and that she held sway over the community. If only she could be converted, they figured, others would certainly follow.
Ms. Shuriye, a frail but feisty grandmother who wraps her head in colorful scarves, was rather set in her ways. Again and again she refused to hear their arguments.
"It was so difficult to change her mind," said Sophia Abdi Noor, the founder of Womankind Kenya, which works with the ethnic Somalis who live in Kenya's rugged North Eastern Province and has attracted local supporters throughout the region. "We knew she was respected, and we wanted her on our side."
Finally, the anti-cutting advocates tried a different tack. They showed up with religious leaders. Ms. Shuriye, a religious Muslim, could not chase them away. She sat down with some influential clerics in her community who had come to the realization that the tradition was harmful, and not dictated by or consistent with the teachings of the Koran.
The imams denounced the practice. They told her that the vagina was a part of the body, just as important in the eyes of God as an eye, a finger or a limb. Cutting it, they argued in their long session outside her home, is a sin.
They went even further. They told Ms. Shuriye that her sins required her to compensate the girls she had maimed. Each of them was due 80 camels, they said. Ms. Shuriye, prosperous by local standards but not that prosperous, was shaken.
She sobbed. Then she prayed. Finally she pleaded with the imams for a way out of her impossible situation. They said the only way to avoid paying the compensation was to seek the forgiveness of each of the girls she had cut.
That is when Ms. Shuriye turned from a cutter to an active opponent. She began making house calls on the girls who had gone under her knife. Many of them were women now. She explained her conversion and pleaded for their forgiveness. She cried each time, she said.
Most offered their blessings. A few saw opportunity in Ms. Shuriye's suffering and demanded the camels, which she did not have. And Ms. Shuriye was able to persuade a small number of the women in her tiny village of Ijara to join the cause.
Laws are not enough to stop the practice, which is carried out in at least 28 countries in Africa and elsewhere in the world.
Kenya banned the cutting of girls several years ago, but the local newspapers continue to carry reports of the ceremonies and of young girls fleeing the knife. Twenty-three of them are now under the protection of K

Re: ugnet_: Re: Patrairchy or Men?

Rehema, I will not dignify your feeble attempt to "challenge" me by responding to your weak argument. Read me again and see how you have embarrassed yourself. English is not my first language either, but GOD-DAMN-IT! I apologize for using too many vocabularies that made it impossible for you to grasp the content of my master piece. Why don't you wait for an  opportunity that meets your level of intelligence if you truly want to "challenge" me?  
 
I got much more intellectually challenging debates from educated women with PhDs in my sperm bank and women's groups that I must attend to. 
 

By the way, have you heard from Joracha lately? After reading you today, I believe that he was very right.  
 
Later.
 
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Anyomokolo:
 
Let me take this opportunity to challenge you.  I do not totally agree with your ideas or this woman's ideas.  Some of us (women) would like to have our future kids know who their fathers are.  These test-tube babies are not our ideas of naturalism.  
 
If I am not to have my eggs taken out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without "me" then, why waste time taking sperms out in order to prove to myself that I can have a child without a "man"??  What is the point in these mind games??
You were taking about psychological pain, but I think that what women like you and this other lady are experiencing is psychological pain itself.  Why are y'all fighting nature??  But hey, do whatever y'all galla do.  Some of us don't give a shit!
 
Some of us are totally absorbed into the psychological feelings of LOVE.  The feeling of loving a man is nothing to be ashamed of or feeling inferior about (patriarchy ideas).  The love we have for our men can not be compared to anything.  We do not love these men out of the idea of pleasing them.  We just love them for who they are.  We love them just because they were born into this world and Allah gave them to us and brought them into our lives.  
 
While this woman can pick up a sperm to fertilize her eggs, some of us will go for the natural stick Allah gave the men we love for natural fertilization.  We love our men so much that we love their penises along with them.  We can never give up the good, satisfying, feeling of their manhoods inside of us.  These men's bodies close in unison with ours.  The feeling of these men with us, emotionally, physically, deeper than spiritual. We Love Our Men, period.  We will not give them up for a vibrator or these sperm-tube babies.  A man is a Man.  
 
What I am asking for, is for women in abusive relationships to open up their eyes and leave these abusive men.  A sensible woman should always take her time to truelly study a man before she gets into a marriage with a man.  These women need to use their natural instincts to look out for themselves in a relationship or before a relationship.  
 
A culture or tradition CAN NOT take away Common Sense from those who posess it.
Maybe some women DO NOT have any!?  Who knows!?
 
 
Zakoomu M.
 
====Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



I am responding to a woman who sent me a private message from another group. Ed (administration), I hope that while I was gone there was a lot youth discussion  around here. Right!?!
This is a master piece. Feel free to forward it to every internet group. Help spread my gospel. Hahaha..
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Private message: 
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Please ‘Anonymous’, don’t use “men” and “patriarchy” interchangeably.  Patriarchy is a culture whose mission is to retard girls’ mental development by replacing our moral conviction with culture and tradition.  Patriarchy is a social system that raises girls to be so stupid. Let me use the acceptable term, raises girls to follow “culture and tradition and to submit to their husbands and accept the inhumane and degrading conditions of marriage. Patriarchy is a social system that is designed to brainwash women to believe that what is important to men, is also what is important to them. Patriarchy is a social system that brainwashes girls to believe that they are born for one reason and only one reason: Make men happy at all cost ! and by all means nece
  ssary.
 Patriarchy is cult where women are used and abused sexually, physically and psychologically. Patriarchy is anything and everything that does not retard erection and sexual pleasure for men. Patriarchy is a woman giving up her freedom in the name of marriage. Patriarchy is religion. Patriarchy is culture and tradition. Patriarchy is a social system that dominates the world. Patriarchy is the Taliban man in Afghanistan and they are in every society, race, and culture. 
With so many women around the world who are so mentally underdeveloped as a result of these mechanisms of oppression, I can safely define Patriarchy as “A culture 

Re: ugnet_: RE:

Ed, you really missed me, didn't you? Haha...Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:











 
 

There are known knowns - there are things that we know that we know. There are known unknowns - that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns ... things we do not know we don't know. And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns."  Us Secretary of Defense 2001 -?
 
Donald Rumsfeld
 
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ugnet_: Re: [UgandanFreeSpeech] Fwd: Patrairchy or Men?

<Nice meeting you! Shami.>>
 
Hello Shamilah, welcome to "Ugandanfreespeech". This is where all women should belong; we don't belong to men as we are brainwashed to believe. Yes woman, I am a Ugandan; a hard core acholi woman who migrated to  America after I had been brainwashed by stupid acholi/African culture and tradition. I am glad that you are impressed by my piece. Tell all Uganda women to join this fora. 
Believe me woman, I have suffered so much at a very young and innocent age while completely devoted to culture and tradition. I had no choice but to look for and find a reason as to why; not just a reason but a reason that makes sense. What I write about is nothing but a result of me talking to myself; often asking and answering my own questions. somewehere along the line, I noticed that what makes sense is what "culture and tradition (patriarchy) does not want women to know. My every day life, for four years, has evolved around why men this and why men that.  I have learnt a lot about men, culture and tradtion (patriarchy) and I enjoy sharing my knowledge with women who are still brainwashed to believe bullshit like I used to believe. 
 
Teach your daughter everything about the importance of not following culture. In other words, let her know that culture is there to make her suffer and yet make a man happy. Finally, be a good mother, not a wife because that is what is important to us as women.
 
Once again, welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
Don't forget to tell all girls in Uganda and around the world to join this group for the purpose of reading me.
 
Once again, welcome.
 
A "debrainwashed" acholi woman. 
 
 
shamilah bbosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you a Ugandan? Wow am impressed. I am 33 year oldwoman with a six year old daughter and single, I leavein Uganda. I joined this forum recently and am still studying theatmosphere in this group. Nice meeting you!Shami.--- Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Private message: > > <> every day just to read you. I really admire your> courage to challenge men because you speak for a> lot of women. What you said about culture> brainwashing girls so that “…we are easy to control,> use and abuse by men because they fear our vagina> and each other’s penis size…” is very true. I am an> African woman who was married for two years to a man> who was mentally unstable. I divorced five years ago> and went b
 ack to
 school with a vengeance and> completed my RN in 2002. I am 34 years old and six> months pregnant with my second and last child> through DI. My mother, who is 62 years old, said> that for a young woman of your age who has never> been married what you know about men is what ! will> bring you happiness. She said that there is no> happiness withtout freedom. She said only American> women are happy wives because they have freedom. …As> you know in Africa there is culture and tradition,> psychological war on wives by husbands that locks> wives in this marriage “cult” where they are "sex> slaves" who "labor 24hrs like horses to take care of> men".>> > > Please ‘Anonymous’, don’t use “men” and “patriarchy”> interchangeably. Patriarchy is a culture whose> mission is to retards girls’ mental development by> replacing our moral conviction with culture and<
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 tradition. Patriarchy is a social system that> raises girls to be so stupid. Let me use the> acceptable term, raises girls to follow “culture and> tradition and to submit to their husbands and accept> the inhumane and degrading conditions of marriage.> Patriarchy is a social system that is designed to> brainwash women to believe that what is important to> men, is also what is important to them. Patriarchy> is a social system that brainwashes girls to believe> that they are born for one reason and only one> reason: Make men happy at all cost ! and by all> means necessary. Patriarchy is cult where women are> used and abused sexually, physically and> psychologically. Patriarchy is anything and> everything that does not retard erection and sexual> pleasure for men. Patriarchy is a woman giving up> her> freedom in the name of marriage. Patriarchy is> relig
 ion.
 Patriarchy is culture and tradition.> Patriarchy is a social system that dominates the> world. Patriarchy is the Taliban man in Afghanistan> and they are in every society, race, and culture. > > With so many women around the world who are so> mentally underdevelop as a result of these> mechanisms of oppression, I can safely define> Patriarchy as “A culture that gives men maximum> rights to socially, mentally, physically and> sexually control, torture, use, abuse, demoralize> and immobilize and mistreat women with no> limitations. > > At a very personal level, 

Re: ugnet_: GENERAL "KONY"

TestingOwor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

They say,every closed system left to itself,collapses under its' own
weight.
The conspiracy that appears to have existed between UPDF and this 
Kony animal appears to have plateaued out and now they are busy 
reporting to us how much they are in constant touch with each other 
and yet whenence the UPDF feels some areas need to be depolulated
they get in and do their jobs and start crying out as Kony has attacked
and ransacked the area.
18 years of fundamental changes in Uganda looks laughable if what 
Maj Shaban Bantariza says is to be believed and yet Kony is relaxing 
somewhere and being bankrolled by may be  State house.
The symbiotic relationship that exists between these two supposed foes is the reason why the insurgency can only end when Mu7 is not in the picture.Not because Kony represents opposition to Mu7 but rather because no one will continue to bankroll him when Mu7 is out of the picture.
Kipenji.
--Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mr Kipenji
 
Maybe an example to trivalise the recent army promotions by showing that 'Kony' has also promoted his 'terrorists' ( therefore we are safer with the UPDF promotions).
 
It is ALWAYS the UPDF spokeman who announces 'Kony' intentions, actions etc.
 
BTW on 5 May 04 the New Vision reported that 'Otti' had called its offices. At the same time Kayanja agreed that he is "in constant contact with Otti". 
So if they have the technology to intercept radio calls, why can't they pinpoint where 'Otti' is, from his mobile (by simply asking  the mobile provider) and arrest him ?
 
NumeOwor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Could there be some relations to the promotions in the UPDF
which from the looks of it is like a list of who is from which part of
Ankole,that is being downplayed by stating Kony's promotions?
Why would the UPDF spokesperson be the one to announce this?
Is UPDF by inference in cohorts with Kony to promote their hidden
agenda?
I find this piece very disturbing to say the least.
KipenjiSimon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Netters
 
1. It was reported late last month that "Vincent Otti" had been injured in Uganda and he had crossed back to Sudan to be treated . At that time "Kony" was already in Sudan.
 
2. These 2 radio communications 'interecepted' by UPDF were therefore between 2 people in the Sudan. HOW does UPDF manage that ? Can't "Kony" afford a mobile phone which cannot be 'intercepted' ?
 
3. If Kamuduli was not killed  earlier, WHO had announced him dead ? and WHO was the dead man ?
 
4.  Watch out for an attack in Lira in Sept/October this year.
 
 
This whole thing is painfully obvious.  ...
 
 
Nume[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kony promotes himself to General By Andrew M. Mwenda & Alex B. Atuhaire June 4, 2004KAMPALA - The leader of the rebel Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA), Joseph Kony (right), has promoted himself to the rank of General. In a communication issued on June 1, 2004, Kony also promoted his deputy Vincent Otti to the rank of Lieutenant General.According to highly placed sources in the Uganda Peoples Defence Forces (UPDF), Kony announced the promotions in a radio message. Military intelligence intercepted the message.UPDF spokesman, Maj. Shaban Bantariza said the army is not bothered by the LRA promotions. “We don’t care whether he promotes himself to general. It makes him a general terrorist,” Bantariza told The Monitor by telephone. “We are not bothered; he can even go ahead and make himself Field Marshal,” Bantariza said.According 
 to
 security sources, LRA commanders Kamuduli (whose alleged dead body was pictured in the press) and Ceaser Acellam (LRA’s chief of military intelligence) who had earlier been announced dead are actually alive. The latter is reportedly ill in a sickbay. Security sources further told The Monitor that Kony also promoted one of his commanders, Lakati to Brigadier. The LRA leader has also called all his commanders back to the Sudan.Security sources say that in a radio communication, Kony instructed Otti to organise a celebration party for the promoted officers. Kony further told Otti that in spite of many difficulties, LRA would march to Lira town to loot goods for the party and that the celebrations should coincide with Independence Day anniversary celebrations.Ugandan security sources, who have listened to the intercepted LRA radio communication, say that Kony’s self-promotion and of his rebel officers is a response to recent promotions within the UPDF
  . In
 one of the intercepted messages, Kony claims that Uganda’s Army Commander, newly promoted Lt. Gen. Aronda Nyakairima, failed to dislodge the LRA during Operation Iron Fist. Security sources further say that Kony reasoned that how could Aronda, whom he (Kony) defeated in southern Sudan during Operation Iron Fist in 2002 become a Lieutenant General while the LRA commander himself remains at the rank of Major General.In an

ugnet_: Fwd: Patriarchy/Men


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ugnet_: Fwd: A Woman's Power


Lisa wrote:
>
Trust me, I was very stupid and so easy for any man to control, use and abuse but this was four years ago. After a nightmarish experience, my brain cells went on a hot pursuit of answers to too many "Whys."  The answers to these "Whys", which did not make sense from a woman's perspective, gave birth to me in 2001. That was when I discovered that I had truly been severely brainwashed by African culture so that I neglect myself and my life to take care for a man. I have been angry ever since and believe me, I intend to break the cycle of this brainwashing of little girls so that we are easy to control, use and abuse by men. Culture and tradition is nothing more than a cult where young girls are drafted to be used and abused by husbands. This is clearly accomplished under the disguise of repeated praise of culture a
 nd
 tradition and/or religion, which by the way, leave boys to grow as if they still live in the caves. Only women can put an end to this.
I am very committed to breaking this cycle and it would be my the best contribution to the woman race. For my generation, this is it! 
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ugnet_: Fwd: A Woman's Power

I have been a dedicated reader of my favourite group for a very long time. After researching, I decided to start participating. Thought I share this with you. This is an organization of more than 1000 women who want to have children but don't want to get married. They all have different reasons for deviating from universal norm. I know I got my own reason as you are about to read. 
 
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I have been reading the archive a lot. I have understood the level of support, respect and debate among members of this wonderful organization. As I mentioned before, I am an African woman who is very disgusted by Africa's dominant and evil patriarchal social system that brainwashes little girls to adulthood, so that we are vulnerable to be used and abused and demoralized and immobilized by men (husbands). In Africa we say this inhumane girl child abuse is "raising a girl well to follow culture and tradition". By the way, I have never been married but I am speaking from experience, though not as a wife.I am angry at the way I was raised, but it is not too late because I will have a daughter by all means necessary. I watched 60 minutes 11 on Wednesday, and learnt that the cost of choosing the sex of a child is USD $18,000. I am not getting married because I don't want any man to interfere with the way intend to "raise her well to follow the femini
 st
 culture and tradition". She'd be a girl. It makes sense to teach her about women's Bible.I discovered how much power and control of the universe, I, a woman, have. As a result, I have become a feminist out of control. Perhaps it is because I have suffered too much while clued to and unreservedly respected Africa's culture and tradition, that I was brainwashed (lied to) from childhood to believe that it is instituted to protect me. Well, that is true. Protect me so that men can live a happy and very fulfilling life style, just as nature intended. 
 
From the time I was a little girl, my womanhood was being carved to nurture a man's ego (husband) with absolute no regard for my own. I found out the truth the hard way but despite that, there is one thing that puts a smile on my face every day; I am reminded of the power and  control that I have over men. That is the power of my vagina. I have natural ability and power and control that patriarchy tried and almost succeeded in taking away from me.It never dawned on me, and I guess it never dawned on you too until now that I, a woman, have absolute power to decide whether a man will have a child or not. It is the reason I pay a hefty annual fee to belong to this wonderful organization. It is so much power that makes me feel immortal. If it is difficult to comprehend what you read from me, then it is because we wear different shoes. But relax, I will give you a sneak preview of me very soon.I hope that what I write on this gr
 oup,
 will not offend anyone. But if it does, I apologize and ask that you delete without reading. I also hope that my very opinionated subjects will not discourage anyone from helping me when I need it.
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ugnet_: Canadian Women-Bad news

I got this from my favorite internet group where I spend most of time. Now you know where I am whenever I dissappear from ugandanet. Some Canadian women here might be interested in this one.
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I'm sending this FAQ to the Canadian thinkers out there who are still onthe fence. The federal government has passed legislation that I think willseriously hinder the chances of any Canadian women out there who wants toget pregnant via donor sperm. Since the legislation prevents donors inCanada from being paid (and possibly preventing similar sperm from beingimported) the number of donors will drop drastically and the price ofsperm will probably increase tremendously. If you are a Canadian woman, please read the URL below and think seriously about your timelinefor conceiving.http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/media/releases/2004/2004_12bk1.htmDaudi Kiribedda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Anyomokolo,
Your verbiage in response to my question on whether sometimes you forget to take your medication vindicates my suspicion that you actually do.  If it looks like a pig, snorts like a pig, stinks like a pig, it must be a pig. I therefore rest my case
 
>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo 
>Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 05:27:41 -0400 (EDT) 
> 
>Daudi, I remember you. Where have you been? You sound like a man who went outside to look for a garbage can to deposit his garbage. You saw a beautiful woman but could not approach her becuase you thought that she might be me, Anyomokolo. So, instead of risking knowing the truth about your elongated body parts, you decided to go back home alone like a loser and decided to swallow your pride. After you finished, I don't know whether you were standing or sitting, but you got up and logged on the Ugandanet to 'release' some more but this time you released anger and frustration with the most respected, awe-inspring malaya/slut/whore. It all makes sense now why culture restrict women's sex freedom by calling us sluts/malaya and all that. Ladies, it is all becuase men fear each other's penis size. I mean, between you and me, do you blame them? 
> 
>--- 
>Once again, 
>I don't give a shit about what any man think of me becuase I don't need your ass in order to be happy. Agot my own money and I don't need any one to carry my child for nine months for me. I CAN DO IT MYSELF. Too bad for those who need someone esle to do it for them. 
>I hope culture and tradition can help your ass. Good luck-you gonna need it! 
>__ 
> 
>A WOMAN'S POWER!!! 
> 
> 
> 
>Daudi Kiribedda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>Oh no, Anyomokolo! 
> 
> 
>You stopped taking your medicine again?  Remember what the Doctor told you, take your prescriptions twice a day.  That is in the morning when you wake up and in the evening before going to bed.  Stop embarrassing yourself and Good luck - you gonna need it. 
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> 
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> 
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> >From: Anyomokolo 
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >Subject: RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo 
> >Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 10:09:21 -0500 (EST) 
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> > 
> >I started replying to this last night but, as usual, I knew that I was not in the mood because I would pause to think of words to contract the next sentence. And whenever I do that, I end up not making sense to readers but to myself. I like my fingers to do the talking on the keyboard, In other words, what you are about to read, is what you would have heard if I were to talk to you. And of course once I finish talking, I read it once to correct, not grammar and syntax, but typing errors. Worrying about grammar and syntax is an unnecessary exercise that is too strenuous for my brain cells. I would rather worry about sizes. 
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Re: ugnet_: Re: Mulindwa is not Mulindwa! - Can the North survive without the...

Damn! Joracha, this is the best. Unfortuntely, I could not find Rehema's response to this, I think I deleted it already. Why do you men like bothering Rehema?
 
Sorry Rehema but this was classic. 
Joracha easy on Rehema guy. She is just a woman. 
 
Anyomokolo
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Rehema you are so stupid it hurts to even attempt to describe your imbecility. What is your point on the net?
 
I cant believe the kind of stupidity you are spreading on.
 
Stay away from politics if all you talk is north and south. This is not a place for stupid parade of yourself.  
 
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RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo

Easy! Hassenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AnyomokoloSize of what? How big or heavy? Is that a plus or minus?j. Ssenyange>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: My pride>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:50:06 -0500 (EST)>>>My size is my pride. Tough.>>POWER>Anyomokolo>>>>->Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals_Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE*
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RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo


Daudi, I remember you. Where have you been? You sound like a man who went outside to look for a garbage can to deposit his garbage. You saw a beautiful woman but could not approach her becuase you thought that she might be me, Anyomokolo. So, instead of risking knowing the truth about your elongated body parts, you decided to go back home alone like a loser and decided to swallow your pride. After you finished, I don't know whether you were standing or sitting, but you got up and logged on the Ugandanet to 'release' some more but this time you released anger and frustration with the most respected, awe-inspring malaya/slut/whore. It all makes sense now why culture restrict women's sex freedom by calling us sluts/malaya and all that. Ladies, it is all becuase men fear each other's penis size. I mean, between you and me, do you blame them? 
 
---
Once again,
I don't give a shit about what any man think of me becuase I don't need your ass in order to be happy. Agot my own money and I don't need any one to carry my child for nine months for me. I CAN DO IT MYSELF. Too bad for those who need someone esle to do it for them.
I hope culture and tradition can help your ass. Good luck-you gonna need it!
__
 
A WOMAN'S POWER!!!
 Daudi Kiribedda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh no, Anyomokolo! 


You stopped taking your medicine again?  Remember what the Doctor told you, take your prescriptions twice a day.  That is in the morning when you wake up and in the evening before going to bed.  Stop embarrassing yourself and Good luck - you gonna need it.
 


>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Subject: RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo 
>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 10:09:21 -0500 (EST) 
> 
> 
>I started replying to this last night but, as usual, I knew that I was not in the mood because I would pause to think of words to contract the next sentence. And whenever I do that, I end up not making sense to readers but to myself. I like my fingers to do the talking on the keyboard, In other words, what you are about to read, is what you would have heard if I were to talk to you. And of course once I finish talking, I read it once to correct, not grammar and syntax, but typing errors. Worrying about grammar and syntax is an unnecessary exercise that is too strenuous for my brain cells. I would rather worry about sizes. 
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>According to experience and the feminist Bible, definitely a plus 
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>According to men's Bible, definitely a minus for men but patriarchy play backw

RE: ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo


I started replying to this last night but, as usual, I knew that I was not in the mood because I would pause to think of words to contract the next sentence. And whenever I do that, I end up not making sense to readers but to myself. I like my fingers to do the talking on the keyboard, In other words, what you are about to read, is what you would have heard if I were to talk to you. And of course once I finish talking, I read it once to correct, not grammar and syntax, but typing errors. Worrying about grammar and syntax is an unnecessary exercise that is too strenuous for my brain cells. I would rather worry about sizes.
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Take a guess.
 
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Ssenya, I would be glad to let you know if you allow me the honor to visually inspect. 
 
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Ssenya, please stop tries to indirectly brainwash me. I am too old and too experience, so please go and try your backward psychology on little girls whose brain cells are still vulnerable to patriarchy. Let me expand on that just like I expand according to size.
 
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According to experience and the feminist Bible, definitely a plus
 
It is a plus for me because men fear me, they have no choice but to respect me and I demand it. I am awe-inspiring.  Do you see any son of a bitch here belittle or responding to me anyhow?  You all write to me with maximum respect. You, men, have the option to fake names to sign on Ugandanet and insult a malaya like me but I think those who tried it have advised the rest accordingly. 
 
No man can dare get close to my vagina because they are terrified of being zapped with high voltage electricity. I zap unsuspecting victims anytime I choose. I am a whore/malaya, you, men, all know that but contrary to the way I was raised, no man wants to use and abuse me sexually. Why not? Because men are afraid of each other’s penis size. especially when I have explicitly made it known that I will talk if I see what I don't like. We all know that there is one only accurate measuring tape and if you, a man, does not size up, you are bound to be rejected and a man will never accept rejection; leave alone one of this magnitude, which is intended to clip manhood from its core. I don't give a shit about your manhood because, not you, a man, but patriarchy does not a give a shit about my womanhood either. If you have a problem with it, blame yo
 ur
 stupid parents for giving you a little penis. Don't try to control my sexual behaviour by imposing stupid patriarchal cultural laws on me a woman, in order to protect you, a man. Bullshit!  Never! We all know that all men want virgins only because their measuring tape can easily be deceived. 
 
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According to men's Bible, definitely a minus for men but patriarchy play backward psychology on us little girls (brainwash us little girls to believe that it is a minus for us in order to protect men's interest). Let me expand on that, just I like I would expand according to size. 
 
Once again, contrary to the way I was brainwashed by patriarchy from childhood, it is a minus for a man because you can never get close to my vagina. You fear me because you fear each others penis size. You know that I got the perfect measuring tape. You would never take off your cheap khaki pants before me because you would be too afraid that you would be too small for me. Like I said, I will tell a little man to tuck his large clitoris back between his legs. I got the real thing; I don't need an elongated one from a foreigner.
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I am a mentally and financially independent woman. I don't give a flip about what men think about me. I don't give a flip about culture and tradition because it is intended to protect men’s interest  with absolute no regard for The Woman Feeling. Culture and tradition raised me to wait for a man to protect my feelings but flip that! I have decided to do it for myself. Need I elaborate on the magnitude of my success? I don't flipping think so!!
 
Calling satanic hedonism if you wish. No social system, culture and tradition to be specific, is going to brainwash me or control me so that I live my life to protect men. Not any more! I am protecting myself. Culture and tradition can kiss my large size.
 
By the way, I am still waiting for men who want to sow their seeds with no responsibilities attached.
 
 ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AnyomokoloSize of what? How big or heavy? Is that a plus or minus?j. Ssenyange>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: My pride>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:50:06 -0500 (EST)>>>My size is my pride. Tough.>>POWER>Anyomokolo>>>>->Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals___

ugnet_: My pride\Anyomokolo


I am responding to Ssenya
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I started replying to this last night but, as usual, I knew that I was not in the mood because I would pause to think of words to contract the next sentence. And whenever I do that, I end up not making sense to readers but to myself. I like my fingers to do the talking on the keyboard, In other words, what you are about to read, is what you would have heard if I were to talk to you. And of course once I finish talking, I read it once to correct, not grammar and syntax, but typing errors. Worrying about grammar and syntax is an unnecessary exercise that is too strenuous for my brain cells. I would rather worry about sizes.
___
 
 Ssenya wrote:
 
<>
 
Take a guess.
 
<>
 
Ssenya, I would be glad to let you know if you allow me the honor to visually inspect. 
 
<>
 
Ssenya, please stop tries to indirectly brainwash me. I am too old and too experience, so please go and try your backward psychology on little girls whose brain cells are still vulnerable to patriarchy. Let me expand on that just like I expand according to size.
 
<> 
 
According to experience and the feminist Bible, definitely a plus
 
It is a plus for me because men fear me, they have no choice but to respect me and I demand it. I am awe-inspiring.  Do you see any son of a bitch here belittle or responding to me anyhow?  You all write to me with maximum respect. You, men, have the option to fake names to sign on Ugandanet and insult a malaya like me but I think those who tried it have advised the rest accordingly. 
 
No man can dare get close to my vagina because they are terrified of being zapped with high voltage electricity. I zap unsuspecting victims anytime I choose. I am a whore/malaya, you, men, all know that but contrary to the way I was raised, no man wants to use and abuse me sexually. Why not? Because men are afraid of each other’s penis size. especially when I have explicitly made it known that I will talk if I see what I don't like. We all know that there is one only accurate measuring tape and if you, a man, does not size up, you are bound to be rejected and a man will never accept rejection; leave alone one of this magnitude, which is intended to clip manhood from its core. I don't give a shit about your manhood because, not you, a man, but patriarchy does not a give a shit about my womanhood either. If you have a problem with it, blame yo
 ur
 stupid parents for giving you a little penis. Don't try to control my sexual behaviour by imposing stupid patriarchal cultural laws on me a woman, in order to protect you, a man. Bullshit!  Never! We all know that all men want virgins only because their measuring tape can easily be deceived. 
 
<>
 
According to men's Bible, definitely a minus for men but patriarchy play backward psychology on us little girls (brainwash us little girls to believe that it is a minus for us in order to protect men's interest). Let me expand on that, just I like I would expand according to size. 
 
Once again, contrary to the way I was brainwashed by patriarchy from childhood, it is a minus for a man because you can never get close to my vagina. You fear me because you fear each others penis size. You know that I got the perfect measuring tape. You would never take off your cheap khaki pants before me because you would be too afraid that you would be too small for me. Like I said, I will tell a little man to tuck his large clitoris back between his legs. I got the real thing; I don't need an elongated one from a foreigner.
__
 
I am a mentally and financially independent woman. I don't give a flip about what men think about me. I don't give a flip about culture and tradition because it is intended to protect men’s interest  with absolute no regard for The Woman Feeling. Culture and tradition raised me to wait for a man to protect my feelings but flip that! I have decided to do it for myself. Need I elaborate on the magnitude of my success? I don't flipping think so!!
 
Calling satanic hedonism if you wish. No social system, culture and tradition to be specific, is going to brainwash me or control me so that I live my life to protect men. Not any more! I am protecting myself. Culture and tradition can kiss my large size.
 
By the way, I am still waiting for men who want to sow their seeds with no responsibilities attached.
 
 ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AnyomokoloSize of what? How big or heavy? Is that a plus or minus?j. Ssenyange>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: My pride>Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 15:50:06 -0500 (EST)>>>My size is my pride. Tough.>>POWER>Anyomokolo>>>>->Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Persona

ugnet_: My pride

 
My size is my pride. Tough.
 
POWER
AnyomokoloPost your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Re: ugnet_: Re: Advice for Treating Prostate Cancer Revival

Okello, what's up sugar? Something wrong around here 'coz I got this message kinda late.
 
Anyway, about this woman, am cool yo. You are a large man; she wouldn't be able to handle you. I don't understand why these little women always try to compete with me. 
 
Getting personal: Traffic
 
Yours,
Speed
 
okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Wow woo, chil chil.
 
I may stray once in a while, but thats not a problem; I remain the same of course.
 
But this "Allah gave me what he did give me; a vagina and breasts!" Sound sweet, yummy and tempting. I wonder how nourishing they may be!
 
But, keep the peace

 
Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey, hey, hey, hey I caught up kinda late with this one by Rehema to Okelo:
 

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What is going on between you two? This is sweet! Rehema be careful becuase I am very possessive when it comes to my man. Besides, you are too small for him. lololol.
 
Let me trace where it all started. Ugandanet has been booming and I was not aware. 
I like this!
 
okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"I dont understand the name Zakoomu? What I know is that its a translation into "Ludikya" i.e Mu- koo- za  becomes Za- koo- mu. Re- he- ma becomes Ma- he- re.  You must be good in that ludikya." (Ssenyange)
 
"You are a very misinformed man (Pretending to be a woman)" (Ed M)
 
Those are partly the reasons I am not interested in even attempting to show you you ain't a critical thinker, but merely a political ideas solicitor.
 
Keep looking.
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Okello:
 
Yeah, you thought right.  I am a great, critical thinker.  That's why you can not hold a sensible conversation with me because there is nothing of sense you can possibly say out of your mouth.  You always tend to get silly and stupid as you can get!  I don't know why.  I can only engage with critical minds.  That's all.
 
What's your point Mr. Okello??  Have you got something to say about my gender again??  That was answered.  It's time for me to move on to other things, until sense comes back to you!
 
Zakoomu M.okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought you are a great thinker, or rather, critical thinker. Is that not so?Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Okello:
 
Try very hard to feed off what I say.  Afterall, that's all you can contribute.  I don't blame you, for a silly guy like you who has nothing of great importance to say, I bet you find my postings very interesting.  Keep on feeding off my contributions here.  I have no problem with that.
 
Besides, I'm a very well informed WOMAN.  I'm REHEMA (1st name) MUKOOZA (last/family name).  Allah gave me what he did give me; a vagina and breasts!
 
Now, Okello what do you have?!  Hahahahaha, lololol.  This is how silly a discussion with this silly Okello can get!  Indeed, I need to cut you off my reply list.
 
Zakoomu R.okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"If you are a normal guy, you would be able to locate it. 
10). Once you spot it and you like the sensation, please go ahead and have fun.  And at the same time are saving your prostates from prostate cancer.
11). Prostate orgasms are strong and pleasurable.  You will cum, that's expected!  Hahahah, lololol!!"
 
"You are a very misinformed man (Pretending to be a woman)" (Ed M)Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Male Members:
 
If you want to avoid getting prostate cancer, you have got to work on it.  Here is my advise from experience with great pleasure in ecstacy!  
 
Give yourselves "Prostate Stimulations", or get a good woman now knows how to stimulate your prostates real good, now and again!  I bet it feels good, its the second best to heaven on earth!  That shit feels good!  That's what I heard!  Here are the directions to do it safe and well.
 
1).  Clean your anus out.
2).  Wash your hands.
3).  Use a condom on your fingures!  (recommended)
4).  Put lubrication on your two fingures.
5).  Insert your fingures slowly (not to hurt yourself) into your anus.
6).  Insert them inside your anus to a length of 2 inches.
7).  Slowly curve your figures upward, towards your male organ.
8).  Stroke slowly in the motion of upward-down, forward-bewards.
9).  At this point you should be able to feel (locate) the Prostate Gland.  It is a small notch, around that area.  If you are a normal guy, you would be able to locate it.
10). Once you spot it and you like the sensation, please go ahead and have fun.  And at the same time are saving your prostates from prostate cancer.
11). Prostate orgasms are strong and pleasurable.  You will cum, that's expected!  Hahahah, lololol!!
 
Prostate Stimulation has been found to be very effective towards the prevention of prostate cancer.  It has been found that men who never stimulated their prostates are the ones who get prostate cancer.  Avoid th

Re: ugnet_: NaijaPolitics not wanted on UgandaNet

Hello list admin, you addressed me but responded to Yaobang.
Here is my original message below. Please reply. 
 
<what I write) except that of acholinet. Do you ever read what I post on Ugandanet? If yes, what do you think about my postings?>>
 
 
 Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo,The list is self-moderated. I do not moderate. Yes people have been kicked off before for going to the extremes. Yaobang was one, although his view of the incident and what brought him back is different from mine (and I would say Mr. Onyango-Oboo's) :=) But that is Yaobang! :=)Just as Yaobang has time to post to the net and still has time to work to feed himself, so can the rest of humanity do more than one thing (either in parallel or in series) and succeed.KiggunduList Admin.On Mar 24, 2004, at 5:39 AM, Y Yaobang wrote:> Anyomokolo,>> One day, you'll find yourself disconnected, dont be suprised. There > was a great debate here, yes on this Ugandanet, about me being > disconnected. But sound minds, including The Monitor's Onyango-Obbo's > (I dont like many of
  his
 writings),  prevailed and I'm still on.>> Remember that Kiggundu  is a businessman, where does he get the > time/money to maintain Ugandanet?>> Hang in there, dear.>> y>> From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: NaijaPolitics not wanted on UgandaNet> >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:13:20 -0500 (EST)> >> >Kiggundu Mukasa, so you are the moderator of Ugandanet. Wow! Most > administrators don't like me, except that of acholinet. Do you ever > read what I post on Ugandanet? If yes, what do you think about my > postings?> >I would appreciate it very much if you respond. I don't want to wake > up one morning and find that my membership Ugandanet has been > terminated.> >> >Anyomokolo.> >> >> >
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Re: ugnet_: NaijaPolitics not wanted on UgandaNet

Kiggundu Mukasa, so you are the moderator of Ugandanet. Wow! Most administrators don't like me, except that of acholinet. Do you ever read what I post on Ugandanet? If yes, what do you think about my postings? 
I would appreciate it very much if you respond. I don't want to wake up one morning and find that my membership Ugandanet has been terminated. 
 
Anyomokolo.
 
 
Kiggundu Mukasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: ugnet_: Re: Advice for Treating Prostate Cancer Revival

Hey, hey, hey, hey I caught up kinda late with this one by Rehema to Okelo:
 

<>
 
What is going on between you two? This is sweet! Rehema be careful becuase I am very possessive when it comes to my man. Besides, you are too small for him. lololol.
 
Let me trace where it all started. Ugandanet has been booming and I was not aware. 
I like this!
 
okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"I dont understand the name Zakoomu? What I know is that its a translation into "Ludikya" i.e Mu- koo- za  becomes Za- koo- mu. Re- he- ma becomes Ma- he- re.  You must be good in that ludikya." (Ssenyange)
 
"You are a very misinformed man (Pretending to be a woman)" (Ed M)
 
Those are partly the reasons I am not interested in even attempting to show you you ain't a critical thinker, but merely a political ideas solicitor.
 
Keep looking.
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Okello:
 
Yeah, you thought right.  I am a great, critical thinker.  That's why you can not hold a sensible conversation with me because there is nothing of sense you can possibly say out of your mouth.  You always tend to get silly and stupid as you can get!  I don't know why.  I can only engage with critical minds.  That's all.
 
What's your point Mr. Okello??  Have you got something to say about my gender again??  That was answered.  It's time for me to move on to other things, until sense comes back to you!
 
Zakoomu M.okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought you are a great thinker, or rather, critical thinker. Is that not so?Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Okello:
 
Try very hard to feed off what I say.  Afterall, that's all you can contribute.  I don't blame you, for a silly guy like you who has nothing of great importance to say, I bet you find my postings very interesting.  Keep on feeding off my contributions here.  I have no problem with that.
 
Besides, I'm a very well informed WOMAN.  I'm REHEMA (1st name) MUKOOZA (last/family name).  Allah gave me what he did give me; a vagina and breasts!
 
Now, Okello what do you have?!  Hahahahaha, lololol.  This is how silly a discussion with this silly Okello can get!  Indeed, I need to cut you off my reply list.
 
Zakoomu R.okello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"If you are a normal guy, you would be able to locate it. 
10). Once you spot it and you like the sensation, please go ahead and have fun.  And at the same time are saving your prostates from prostate cancer.
11). Prostate orgasms are strong and pleasurable.  You will cum, that's expected!  Hahahah, lololol!!"
 
"You are a very misinformed man (Pretending to be a woman)" (Ed M)Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Male Members:
 
If you want to avoid getting prostate cancer, you have got to work on it.  Here is my advise from experience with great pleasure in ecstacy!  
 
Give yourselves "Prostate Stimulations", or get a good woman now knows how to stimulate your prostates real good, now and again!  I bet it feels good, its the second best to heaven on earth!  That shit feels good!  That's what I heard!  Here are the directions to do it safe and well.
 
1).  Clean your anus out.
2).  Wash your hands.
3).  Use a condom on your fingures!  (recommended)
4).  Put lubrication on your two fingures.
5).  Insert your fingures slowly (not to hurt yourself) into your anus.
6).  Insert them inside your anus to a length of 2 inches.
7).  Slowly curve your figures upward, towards your male organ.
8).  Stroke slowly in the motion of upward-down, forward-bewards.
9).  At this point you should be able to feel (locate) the Prostate Gland.  It is a small notch, around that area.  If you are a normal guy, you would be able to locate it.
10). Once you spot it and you like the sensation, please go ahead and have fun.  And at the same time are saving your prostates from prostate cancer.
11). Prostate orgasms are strong and pleasurable.  You will cum, that's expected!  Hahahah, lololol!!
 
Prostate Stimulation has been found to be very effective towards the prevention of prostate cancer.  It has been found that men who never stimulated their prostates are the ones who get prostate cancer.  Avoid this from happening to you by following the directions I've given you.  They are very simple and easy yet pleasurable and healthy.  
 
Zakoomu R.J Ssemakula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








Advice for Treating Prostate Cancer Revival 

March 17, 2004 
  By ANAHAD O'CONNOR 





An estimated 30,000 men who have had surgery for prostate 
cancer will relapse this year, and half of them will die. 
But many of those patients can be saved, a new study says, 
if doctors treat them with radiation therapy at the 
earliest signs of recurrence. 

In cases where prostate cancer appears to be returning 
after surgery, doctors usually forgo local radiation 
because they assume the disease has spread. Hormones, which 
are helpful but cannot cure the disease, are typically 
given instead. 

But the latest study, published today in the Journal of the 
American Medical

Re: ugnet_: Luwero Killings: Acholis to Say Sorry to Buganda


I am surprised that by now some of you have not figured out what Museveni is trying to do here. 
I don't know where this meeting is going to take place but I bet you, this acholi chief and religious leaders names are: 
James Ojok  Okelo
Patrick Ocen Okelo 
Micheal Okumu Okelo
William Okelo
As usual they are always OKELO's
There is no  acholi leader who is stupid enough to aplogise for a crime acholi did not commit;  leave alone its magnitute. Right now the Museveni media has focussed on spreading false rumors that the Lango are killing acholis for revenge. The langi leaders denies this but Museveni insistt. What a perfect time to get the Bagandans in the act. And then in about 2 weeks we shall hear of acholi massacre as it happened in Rwanda in 1994.
I wish my acholi people can really find their way out the camps before it is too late. Museveni has kept them in the camps for too long. He is not going to stand by and watch his dreams wash away. After 18 years of hard work and completely paralyzing the acholis? 
I wonder what the flip God is doing. A very useless God whose only concern seems to be what women do with their vagina. Omar Kezimbira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Regional  - EastAfrican - Nairobi - KenyaMonday, March 1, 2004  



Luwero Killings: Acholis toSay Sorry to BugandaBy A.MUTUMBA-LULE THE EASTAFRICAN 
A DELEGATION of cultural and religious leaders from the Acholi sub-region is expected to make a public apology to Buganda this week for the atrocities committed against non-combatants by the predominantly Acholi Uganda National Liberation Army, UNLA, during the five-year bush war that brought President Yoweri Museveni to power. 
In a development that could be significant for north-south relations in Uganda, the elders and religious leaders from Teso, Gulu and Lira will accept responsibility for the indiscriminate killings that sometimes saw whole families perish, as government forces sought out supporters of the National Resistance Army insurgency led by Yoweri Museveni (who at the time was a rebel leader) between 1981 and 1985. Janaan Kasango, one of the people behind the reconciliatory meetings, said last week that cultural leaders like the Emorimor of Teso, Osburn Kadugala, the tribal chief of Acholi, the Rwot and representatives from Buganda have agreed to attend the meetings.  
"This will be the first of its kind, but we expect more reconciliatory meetings to take place," Kasango told The EastAfrican last week.  
In the Luwero Triangle, bitter memories of the war still linger and President Yoweri Museveni's campaign team capitalised on such memories to campaign against the opposition in 1986. 
Sources in the Mission for National Reconciliation, the people behind the reconciliatory meeting, said they had so far met different people in the central government, the army, Buganda Kingdom, local chiefs in Teso, Kitgum and Gulu. 
Ms Ruth Nankabirwa, Minister of State in charge of Defence, told The EastAfrican that she was not aware of the arrangements. However, she added that if they were to take place, they could only be good for the country. 
Mike Mukula, Minister of State for Health, also welcomed the idea, saying it should be encouraged. 
The deputy Prime Minister of Buganda, Kaya Kavuma, said he had not been informed about the developments. However, other officials at Bulange, the seat of Buganda Kingdom, said they are aware of the reconciliatory meeting and would participate. 
"Reconciliation is good, we cannot keep on hiding these facts," said one official. 
Dates have been set tentatively for March 4 to 7, 2004. Activities to be carried out include visiting sites were there are mass graves of people killed during the 1980-85 war, visiting collapsing buildings destroyed by the war and a rally in Luwero town, some 80kms north of Kampala. 
The peace tour, which is likely to be reciprocated by elders in Buganda by visiting some areas in the north and east, has been greeted with excitement as it will bring the two groups together and hopefully erase the bitter memories of the past. 
Museveni used the Luwero Triangle as his base to fight President Milton Obote's government. The area paid dearly for this as government troops killed civilians indiscriminately, taking them to be either rebels or rebel sympathisers. 
A document seen by The EastAfrican last week says that towards the end of last year, as insecurity spread to Teso, it became evident to a number of people in Luwero that there were still deep roots of bitterness towards the north and north east because of the people killed in the civil war of Luwero during the early 1980s. 
"This emerged when an initiative started in the fellowship at New Hope Uganda in Luwero led by Mr. Jay Dangers, to send teams of people to Soroti to help the internally displaced people, generated a lot opposition from members," says a statement headed as Reconciliation Initiative involving Luwero, Teso, Lango and Acholi. 
It will be good for the country especiall

ugnet_: Rwanda-Acholi Genocide

The other day I asked whether you ever thought about the Rwanda genocide happening in Uganda to the acholi people. These "acholi rebels" (?) are slowly but surely fueling other tribes.  
 
Here is another prediction below.
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Lukaka,
 
The news out of Lira in the last few days are very troubling. In addition to the horrific  massacre of people in a camp north of Lira on the weekend,  some Acoli civilians were lynched today. I just spoke to a relative in Lira, who told me that things are so tense that the Acoli community in Lira has been rounded up by the security forces and taken into "protective custody" to save them from the wrath of angry Langi. 
 
With militias being trained and armed in Lira, Gulu, Kitgum and Pader , the potential for a Rwandan-style genocide in northern Uganda is ever- growing. We already have the armed groups...UPDF, LRA,  Amuka militia, Arrow boys, LDU's, militias in Gulu, Kitgum and Pader. We have the bitterness in place...  LRA are angry with civilians, people in the camps are angry with UPDF, LRA, etc; the Acholi militias hate the LRA; and the Amuka militia in Lango and the Arrow Brigade in Teso all hate the Acholi!
The victims are in place...the innocent people in the camps. By putting them all in large camps, they could be killed in large numbers by a relatively small force!  The only thing still missing is a trigger. In Rwanda, it was the shooting down of President Habyarimana's plane that trigerred the onset of the genocide!
 
In northern Uganda, God knows what the trigger is going to be, but it is coming. Incidents like the massacre in a camp north of Lira last weekend could ignite a round of revenge attacks and killings that can spiral out of control! I would not be suprised if a group of Amuka militia attack one of the camps in Pader district near the border with Lira and massacre people there! If the Acoli militia chooses to pursue them, the UPDF will likely fold their hands and watch!
 
I appeal to our political leaders in Parliament and the district councils to preach restraint to our people in Acholi, Lango and Teso. The Government of Uganda does not appear to care at this point.  We should do everything possible to alert the world to the disaster now unfolding in northern Uganda. We need to invoke the ghosts of Rwanda to push the international community to save our people! Personally, I am preparing an article which I will send to the Canadian Foreign Minister and the Canadian press.  
 
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Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] UPC on Federalism

MatekOpoko wrote:
 
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Wow! 
 
This is what I like to read. This is so cool. I like it when men go at each other.
 
lol  = laugh out loud.
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MUKOPI:Go take an asprine..I have already calculate the circumference of  your ass Hole..so just F off!!!Matek In a message dated 2/22/2004 4:00:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Aahhh, i see you are obssesed with Museveni and apparently you have succumbed to your passions, so it is a grudge match between Museveni and UPC. I am very sure Obote is behind pulling your strings. Politics 101, never get personal with an oponent and there is your other mistake, you erroneous think that once Museveni is out of the way, it will be all clear for UPC to walk into state house. Wrong again, infact it is time for me to ask you where you got your political science degree (if any), how can you plan a political strategy around an individual. This is political science 101, it may appear to you that Museveni is NRM and NRM is Museveni, but sorry to disapoint you that ain't so. I will live it at that as we watch events unfold. You seem to have a very achaic political mind and you seem to hear, see and  re
 ad
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ugnet_: Jesus On CNN


There will be a documentary about Jesus, the man whose death changed the world, on CNN tomorrow, Sunday, @ 8:00pm EST. 
You better believe that ama watch it. 
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Re: ugnet_: Wife tricks hubby in sex-for-tax scam

What a desperate move.  
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Wife tricks hubby in sex-for-tax scamBy Jonathan AkweteirehoFeb 17, 2004




HOIMA – A woman who wanted to spend a night with her lover told her husband that graduated tax collectors were going to raid their neighbourhood that night.
Reluctant to face the wrath of the tax collectors, the resident of Kasonga village in Kyangwali sub-county only identified as Mr Kankeire ordered for an early supper then went into hiding in the garden outside his house on the night of February 11.
With the husband out of the way, Ms Rose Kankeire invited her unidentified lover into her home for a night of passion.
According to the area parish chief, Mr Ismail Nyangabyaki, Kankeire decided to return home at 5 a.m. – confident that it was too late for the tax collectors to raid – only “to be greeted by funny noises in his house”.
Love may be blind, but it can see in the dark. According to the parish chief, Kankeire “picked his spear and held it at the ready but when he banged the door, the poacher flew through the window and escaped”.
Clan members reportedly settled the matter and residents say Kankeire has now vowed to pay his graduated tax.
Meanwhile, the LC-III chairman of Bugambe, Mr John Bahemuka, recently stopped graduated tax collection in the area. 
Bahemuka accused tax collectors of raping women they found in their homes after their husbands escaped into hiding, and appealed to the district chief administrator’s office to intervene.
© 2004 The Monitor Publications


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ugnet_: SSenya- When the wife earns more


<Also men have tastes.>>
 
Listen Ssenya, according to your original proposal, these men  were going to throw me away after one "bite" anyway becuase all they want is a vagina to deposit their garbage for a quick cheap thrill. In other words, I am exactly what they are looking for. Your own words, "..want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached."
 
I 100% agree with you that I am a source of cheap thrill but I am also a woman with taste.
 
Tell all these men that I am open 24hrs and they can "scatter their seeds" all night and day. Do me a favor though, am asking becuase I have seen men who have never met a woman with taste, suffer coronary. Please let them know that I am a woman who does not follow her culture and tradition, so if they don't size up, I'd be honest and ask them to tuck their enlarged weak clitoris back in their cheap pants because I am a large woman. 
 
It seems every size wants to "bite" but it is my natural rights to choose what size "bites" me. It would be a one time thing, so it might as well be worth it for me. Culture and tradition can kiss my ass!
Who said women who don't follow their culture and tradition can't get pregnant? What do I lose? Bullshit!
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ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo,When I was growing up, in my village, we used to eat wild guavas along the streets. They were free! Some trees had very sweet guavas and it was a chance to get a ripe one. Sometrees had bitter \ saulty guavas which looked very delicious to eat and you could find hundreds of them very ripe. But since we knew their tastes, we did not eat them. Only strangers who attempted a bite and threw them after one bite.Also men have tastes.J. Ssenya>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - Robert >Awor>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:02:10 -0500 (EST)>>Ssenya
 wrote:>><>over there, advise your fellow men. There are so many who want to scatter >their seeds with no responsibilities attached.>Ssenya>>>>Ssenya you are very thoughtful. I am always available. I am a rich woman >and don't need any man to be responsible. Robert just let them know that I >am a woman with lotsa rights and freedom; including the right to visually >inspect and use my natural measuring tape to my advantage. And if they >don't fit my size, I will tell them striaght up, to tuck their little >penises back in their cheap khaki pants becuase I am large woman and their >are too small for me. I will let them know that I don't deal with little >and immature boys. I got a small body, but no man should be deceived. I am >very selective becuase I know what I want. I am not going to restrict my
 >choices becuase of culture and tradition. Culture and tradition can kiss my >sweet, beautiful, black $#%.>>After making myself very clear, the best part would be to watch it shrink >as if I just zapped it with high voltage electricity.>>Of course, if they fit my size, I will add them to my list.>>Robert and Ssenya, with that in mind, I wait to see which "fellow men" >still "want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached.">Hey, I am always available.>>I am a grown woman and I know what is good for me. Call it "satanic >hedonism", I don't care. Who said, women with satanic hedonism can't get >pregnant?>>Zzzp!>>A WOMAN'S POWER>>>ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>Robert,>>Anyomokolo said:>> >I will get married w
 hen I
 find a man who lives with me as if he lives> >alone. This would be my soul mate. If you are out there, contact. You and >I> >will get along well.> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]>--->>There you go. INVITATION to lucky Robert. When you get the>experience over there, advise your fellow men. There are so many who want >to>scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached.>>Ssenya>>>>>>> >From: Anyomokolo> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Robert Owor , [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more -> >Anyomokolo> >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:26:58 -0500 (EST)> >>> >Humanity or 
 no
 humanity, I don't care. Experience or no experience, I >don't> >care. Good or bad men and women, asurely don't give a damn. Th

ugnet_: SeekRevenge

Let me translate in my own word. 
I am privy to American FBI's "inside" information long before the general public. 
I read some where on the internet that every tribe in the country must suffer the current president's ruthlessness towards specific ethnic groups. How? The plan is to poison/contaminate large main water streams that flows to the local rivers in Western part of the country. 
The Capital's main water source? Let me wait for next month's rumors from the pentagon. Extra! Extra! 
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ugnet_: GuluChildrenWashingtonPost

In Uganda, Terror Forces Children's Nightly Flight By Emily WaxWashington Post Foreign ServiceFriday, February 13, 2004; Page A01 GULU, Uganda -- Night was falling quickly. In the faded red and orange light of Africa at dusk, two 15-year-old girls, Jennifer Adoch and Susan Oyella, arms linked, backs straight, hair tightly shaved, hiked dusty trails without shoes, their feet swollen and callused. [See the attached file] [See the attached file] [See the attached file] They walked with thousands of other children, all rushing away from the danger of nighttime rebel raids on their villages and toward the safety of the town center to sleep. Tiny boys in tattered clothing, girls with chubby cheeks clutching ragged dolls, others with foam mattresses balanced on their heads, others with nothing at all were walking. Jennifer and Susan sang a marching song. "People in Gulu are suffering. Education is poor. Communication is poor. There are no more virgins in Gulu," the girls sang sweetly in English. "They were all raped. Hear us now: There are no more virgins in Gulu." T
 he
 children are called simply "the night commuters." About 15,000 young Ugandans trek every evening from more than 300 villages, some more than five miles away, into the safety of Gulu, about 175 miles north of the capital, Kampala. Other towns in northern Uganda, such as nearby Lira and Kitgum, also have their nightly flood of children. Rebels from the Lord's Resistance Army, or LRA, a guerrilla movement active in northern Uganda since 1987, raid villages at night, abducting boys and girls to fill the ranks of their army and to become sex slaves and porters. After the government launched an offensive two years ago, the kidnappings increased. Last year, an average of 30 children every day were snatched from boarding schools and homes, according to UNICEF. Terrified of abductions, which almost always took place at night, the children began to sleep in the towns, where it was harder for rebels to attack. Parents stayed behind in the villages to watch over their possessions. They,
  too,
 have been the victims of rebel kidnappings, but children are the main targets. An estimated 34,000 children have been abducted since 1994. "My family was killed by rebels so I started footing it to the bus park. So many [children] were there, too," said Jennifer, her large eyes shifting down. In the dark, three months ago, she was offered about 30 cents to sleep with a man. She said she closed her eyes and accepted the offer. "I'm not lazy. I can run. I have been beaten. I have been taken to discos and raped. I am not scared anymore," Susan said. The Children On the road to Gulu, Innocent Opinonya, 14, walked gracefully and with perfect posture. Also walking, but with her back hunched over and her sho
 ulders
 folded into her body, was his sister Prossy Atimango, who was just 16 but seemed 60. Prossy quietly recalled being taken as a "rebel wife" on a Tuesday in the last week of July 1998. She was mute for three months after escaping last year. Her first words to her brother were ones he still remembers: "I am still fearing in the village that they may abduct me. Let's hide in Gulu town." Prossy looked so solemn that she appeared to be lost in nightmares. She said she was raped many times. She described being forced to participate in killing a fellow prisoner -- a girl with light brown eyes -- who disobeyed a guerrilla commander. "I am really ashamed. I was disrespecting my heart. I wanted to be dead, afterwards. I wasn't experiencing life. It was living a curse," mumbled Prossy, her eyes welling with tears. She pulled her jacket over her head and said again: "I wanted to be dead. I wanted to take my own life." "Then you found me," Innocent piped in, touching her hand. "I was fear
 ing,
 too, and I told you we could be together." CONTINUED 1 2 3 4     Next > Print This Article 
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RE: ugnet_: Moderating my messages

I don't care. I did not ask him to spend his money on me.
Too bad.ssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo,Be thankful to him. He's doing you a favor. You dont pay even a dollar for this service. He spends his money and time on it. Handle him "gently" you will be served better. Remember he is in Uganda where every minute of telephone airtime & internet is paid.Ssenya--->From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: Moderating my messages>Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:32:56 -0500 (EST)>>You Ugandanet, admin. are you moderating my messages? Why can't I post >messages on Ugnet. I know this will post because it does not have the three >letter word: es ee ex. I think you are a hypocrit. You do it everyday, and >yet you don't
  want to
 me to write about it. You are full of fill in the >blank.>Stop moderating my messages. I am going to post a message right after >this if I don't see it on the list then I will know that you are a real >devil. Has anyone receives my message today apart from this one. This >moderator is crazy. Whoever he/she is.>>>>->Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals_STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-caThis service is hosted on the Infocom networkhttp://www.infocom.co.ugPost your free ad now! Yahoo! 
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Re: ugnet_: Hullo there

What a relief! I was beginning to distrust the admin of this group. I have sent him so many private insulting messages because I thought he was moderating my messages. No wonder, he never replied. I usually don't survive long in e-groups dominated and moderated by men. Some even started guidelines (acoliforum) in order to control what I write.
I actually think the kindest admin to me has been ugandanet admin. This is the only group that truly practices what Uganda need: DEMOCRACY.
 
Hahahahhah...
 
 
 
 
 
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ugnet_: Moderating my messages

You Ugandanet, admin. are you moderating my messages? Why can't I post messages on Ugnet. I know this will post because it does not have the three letter word: es ee ex. I think you are a hypocrit. You do it everyday, and yet you don't want to me to write about it. You are full of fill in the blank.
Stop moderating my messages. I am going to post  a message right after  this if I don't see it on the list then I will know that you are a real devil. Has anyone receives my message today apart from this one. This moderator is crazy. Whoever he/she is.Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

ugnet_: I Went To Church


I went to church in Brooklyn, NY, on Saturday, February 07, 2004 with friends who know that God is my worst enemy. It was a small crowd where everybody knows everybody. I told my friends to tell the priests to not bother me. It was a spiritual healing prayer to mark the end of one month long fasting. It did not take long before these two women, evangelist Mary and another sister Catherine, who were standing on stage, started screaming like …I will be kind. Just as I was about to give sister Catherine credit for calming down and talking in a low quiet, nice voice, she started coming down the steps towards me and said, “Lets welcome sister Sophia”. She was about five feet away when she switched the microphone to her right hand and looked directly at me. I stared right back and almost said don’t freaking touch me but the fierce _expression on my ston
 e cold
 face stopped her on her track. 
 
It was time for individual spiritual prayer when the pastor, Anthony, owner of the church and whose wife is my coworker, started signaling me. I shook my head and he acknowledged but the grin on face was one of, you have to receive God in your life today. You have to get saved today. I had observed enough and was not interested in having any stranger(s) scream at me with their hands on my head. I was also afraid of being perhaps hypnotized and brainwashed so that I begin to live the artificial life of a Christian where I would wake up in the middle of the night and start talking to myself like an idiot. 
 
After the service, sister Catherine asked why I did not accept the lord. I told her that I am a feminist and I find religion very gender biased, besides, I would not subscribe to a culture that restricts my sexual freedom. She asked me to be specific and I told her that if God wanted my body to be penetrable by only one man, he should have created it as such. I also expressed my disappointment with the biblical preconceived notion that women lack intellect, therefore, should not speak in church but listen to the teachings of the bible from their husbands. 
 
She interrupted by explaining that it was not “lack of intellect” but rather because some women were being unruly and disruptive in church. I asked her to guess what these women could have been unruly about in church. I suggested that it was possible that these women were challenging ‘till death do us part’ and ‘no man shall have sexx with another man’s wife’ because their sexuual freedom was being stripped away. I added that these women knew that it is a terrible emotional and sexual torture to be with one man for a long time and that at a certain age, a man’s peniss gets weak, he can’t have an erection, and so it is time to seek a younger man. She responded with some nonsense of her own and I called it quit. 
 
By this time, I wanted to split her skull open and replace her brain with half of mine. Instead, I told her not to waste her time with me because I am too old to be brainwashed to live my life for a man’s best interest. I concluded with: “I would not subscribe to any oppressive cultural norm that is clearly disadvantageous to a woman but advantageous to a man. I am a woman who cherishes her sexuual freedom. Religion is not for me. 
 
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ugnet_: Stop Moderating my messages

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ugnet_: I Went To Church


 
I went to church in Brooklyn, NY, on Saturday, February 07, 2004 with friends who know that God is my worst enemy. It was a small crowd where everybody knows everybody. I told my friends to tell the priests to not bother me. It was a spiritual healing prayer to mark the end of one month long fasting. It did not take long before these two women, evangelist Mary and another sister Catherine, who were standing on stage, started screaming like …I will be kind. Just as I was about to give sister Catherine credit for calming down and talking in a low quiet, nice voice, she started coming down the steps towards me and said, “Lets welcome sister Sophia”. She was about five feet away when she switched the microphone to her right hand and looked directly at me. I stared right back and almost said don’t flipping touch me but the fierce _expression_ on my stone
  cold
 face stopped her on her track. 
 
It was time for individual spiritual prayer when the pastor, Anthony, owner of the church and whose wife is my coworker, started signaling me. I shook my head and he acknowledged but the grin on face was one of, you have to receive God in your life today. You have to get saved today. I had observed enough and was not interested in having any stranger(s) scream at me with their hands on my head. I was also afraid of being perhaps hypnotized and brainwashed so that I begin to live the artificial life of a Christian where I would wake up in the middle of the night and start talking to myself like an idiot. 
 
After the service, sister Catherine asked why I did not accept the lord. I told her that I am a feminist and I find religion very gender biased, besides, I would not subscribe to a culture that restricts my sexual freedom. She asked me to be specific and I told her that if God wanted my body to be penetrable by only one man, he should have created it as such. I also expressed my disappointment with the biblical preconceived notion that women lack intellect, therefore, should not speak in church but listen to the teachings of the bible from their husbands. 
 
She interrupted by explaining that it was not “lack of intellect” but rather because some women were being unruly and disruptive in church. I asked her to guess what these women could have been unruly about in church. I suggested that it was possible that these women were challenging ‘till death do us part’ and ‘no man shall have sex with another man’s wife’ because their sexual freedom was being stripped away. I added that these women knew that it is a terrible emotional and sexual torture to be with one man for a long time and that at a certain age, a man’s ‘thing’ gets weak, he can’t have an erection, and so it is time to seek a younger man. She responded with some nonsense of her own and I called it quit. 
 
By this time, I wanted to split her skull open and replace her brain with half of mine. Instead, I told her not to waste her time with me because I am too old to be brainwashed to live my life for a man’s best interest. I concluded with: “I would not subscribe to any oppressive cultural norm that is clearly disadvantageous to a woman but advantageous to a man. I am a woman who cherishes her sexual freedom. Religion is not for me. 
 
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ugnet_: I Went To Church


 
I went to church in Brooklyn, NY, on Saturday, February 07, 2004 with friends who know that God is my worst enemy. It was a small crowd where everybody knows everybody. I told my friends to tell the priests to not bother me. It was a spiritual healing prayer to mark the end of one month long fasting. It did not take long before these two women, evangelist Mary and another sister Catherine, who were standing on stage, started screaming like …I will be kind. Just as I was about to give sister Catherine credit for calming down and talking in a low quiet, nice voice, she started coming down the steps towards me and said, “Lets welcome sister Sophia”. She was about five feet away when she switched the microphone to her right hand and looked directly at me. I stared right back and almost said don’t flipping touch me but the fierce _expression_ on my stone
  cold
 face stopped her on her track. 
 
It was time for individual spiritual prayer when the pastor, Anthony, owner of the church and whose wife is my coworker, started signaling me. I shook my head and he acknowledged but the grin on face was one of, you have to receive God in your life today. You have to get saved today. I had observed enough and was not interested in having any stranger(s) scream at me with their hands on my head. I was also afraid of being perhaps hypnotized and brainwashed so that I begin to live the artificial life of a Christian where I would wake up in the middle of the night and start talking to myself like an idiot. 
 
After the service, sister Catherine asked why I did not accept the lord. I told her that I am a feminist and I find religion very gender biased, besides, I would not subscribe to a culture that restricts my sexual freedom. She asked me to be specific and I told her that if God wanted my body to be penetrable by only one man, he should have created it as such. I also expressed my disappointment with the biblical preconceived notion that women lack intellect, therefore, should not speak in church but listen to the teachings of the bible from their husbands. 
 
She interrupted by explaining that it was not “lack of intellect” but rather because some women were being unruly and disruptive in church. I asked her to guess what these women could have been unruly about in church. I suggested that it was possible that these women were challenging ‘till death do us part’ and ‘no man shall have sex with another man’s wife’ because their sexual freedom was being stripped away. I added that these women knew that it is a terrible emotional and sexual torture to be with one man for a long time and that at a certain age, a man’s penis gets weak, he can’t have an erection, and so it is time to seek a younger man. She responded with some bullsh*t of her own and I called it quit. 
 
By this time, I wanted to split her skull open and replace her brain with half of mine. Instead, I told her not to waste her time with me because I am too old to be brainwashed to live my life for a man’s best interest. I concluded with: “I would not subscribe to any oppressive cultural norm that is clearly disadvantageous to a woman but advantageous to a man. I am a woman who cherishes her sexual freedom. Religion is not for me. I am a hardcore feminist.” 
 
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Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - Robert Awor


Ssenya wrote:
 
<Ssenya>>
 
Ssenya you are very thoughtful. I am always available. I am a rich woman and don't need any man to be responsible. Robert just let them know that I am a woman with lotsa rights and freedom; including the right to visually inspect and use my natural measuring tape to my advantage. And if they don't fit my size, I will tell them striaght up, to tuck their little penises back in their cheap khaki pants becuase I am large woman  and their are too small for me. I will let them know that I don't deal with little and immature boys. I got a small body, but no man should be deceived. I am very selective becuase I know what I want. I am not going to restrict my choices becuase of culture and tradition. Culture and tradition can kiss my sweet, beautiful, black $#%.
 
After making myself very clear, the best part would be to watch it shrink as if I just zapped it with high voltage electricity. 
 
Of course, if they fit my size, I will add them to my list.
 
Robert and Ssenya, with that in mind, I wait to see which "fellow men" still "want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached." 
Hey, I am always available.    
 
I am a grown woman and I know what is good for me. Call it "satanic hedonism", I don't care. Who said, women with satanic hedonism can't get pregnant?  
 
Zzzp!
 
A WOMAN'S POWERssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Robert,Anyomokolo said:>I will get married when I find a man who lives with me as if he lives >alone. This would be my soul mate. If you are out there, contact. You and I >will get along well.>[EMAIL PROTECTED]---There you go. INVITATION to lucky Robert. When you get the experience over there, advise your fellow men. There are so many who want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached.Ssenya>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re:
  When
 the wife earns more - >Anyomokolo>Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:26:58 -0500 (EST)>>>Humanity or no humanity, I don't care. Experience or no experience, I don't >care. Good or bad men and women, asurely don't give a damn. The bottom >line is I am grown woman and nobody is going to tell me, at least not at my >age, that marriage is good for me becuase I know what is good for me.>>Unlike many women who are raised in a culture that does not offer them this >opportunity, I am glad that I have absolute power and authority invested in >me to make my own decision whether I want to get married and spend the rest >of my life with a complete stranger or not.>>Women who feel marriage is where they would find happniness, should go >ahead and get married. Personally, the thought of it, marriage, alone makes >me feel like a real idiot. Personally, I will never give up my freedom in
 >exchange for a husband. For what? What good is it to me? What do I gain? I >don't joke with my freedom.>>Think about it, I can wake up anytime I want, go out when I want, come back >home when I want, make my own decision without worring about a complete >stranger, who all of sudden I have to live with for the rest of my life. I >can cook when I want, employee a house girl when I want, sleep all day if >chose to, blablablathe list is endless. Give up my freedom! I am not >that stupid.>>I am a woman who does not need money, love or anything for that matter from >any man except a child and it takes only ten seconds to ejaculate. Why >should I give my freedom for almost fifty years? Please! If the mailman >does not come around often enough, I will simply take my money from the >bank to the bank.>>Robert, what has this got to do with humanity and all the goo
 d and
 bad >women and men out there?>>>>>Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>Anyomokolo is really Molokony!>>Your experience in life Anyomokolo does not sum up the total experience>of humanity.>What you believe in is not necessarily right especially since your>reasoning has fundamental flaws.>>There are good women and bad women. There are good men and bad men.>There are good marriages and bad marriages. There happy single people>and sad single people. There happily married people and miserably>married people.>>Choosing to be single is not necessarily wrong, choosing to be married>is not necessarily right. The converse is also true. What your argument>seems to imply is that a brown dog is better than black dog.>>___

ugnet_: { SPAM 1 }:Re: When the wife earns more-Anyomokolo


Ssenya wrote:
 
<Ssenya>>
 
Ssenya you are very thoughtful. I am always available. I am a rich woman and don't need any man to be responsible. Robert just let them know that I am a woman with lotsa rights and freedom; including the right to visually inspect and then use my natural measuring tape. And if they don't fit my size, I will tell them straight up, to tack their little penis back in their cheap khaki pants becuase I am large woman  and they are too small for me. I will let them know that I don't deal with little and immature boys. I got a small body, but no man should be deceived. I am very selective becuase I know what I want. I am not going to restrict my choices becuase of culture and tradition. Culture and tradition can kyss my sweet, beautiful, black behind.
 
After making myself very clear, the best part would be to watch it shrink as if I just zapped it with high voltage electricity. Zaaap
 
Of course, if they fit my size, I will add them to my list.
 
Robert and Ssenya, with that in mind, I wait to see which "fellow men" still "want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached." 
Hey, I am always available.    
 
I am a grown woman and I know what is good for me. Call it "satanic hedonism", I don't care. Who said, women with "satanic hedonism" become infertile pregnant?  
 
Zzzaaaap!
 
A WOMAN'S POWERssenya nyange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Robert,Anyomokolo said:>I will get married when I find a man who lives with me as if he lives >alone. This would be my soul mate. If you are out there, contact. You and I >will get along well.>[EMAIL PROTECTED]---There you go. INVITATION to lucky Robert. When you get the experience over there, advise your fellow men. There are so many who want to scatter their seeds with no responsibilities attached.Ssenya>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re:
  When
 the wife earns more - >Anyomokolo>Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:26:58 -0500 (EST)>>>Humanity or no humanity, I don't care. Experience or no experience, I don't >care. Good or bad men and women, asurely don't give a damn. The bottom >line is I am grown woman and nobody is going to tell me, at least not at my >age, that marriage is good for me becuase I know what is good for me.>>Unlike many women who are raised in a culture that does not offer them this >opportunity, I am glad that I have absolute power and authority invested in >me to make my own decision whether I want to get married and spend the rest >of my life with a complete stranger or not.>>Women who feel marriage is where they would find happniness, should go >ahead and get married. Personally, the thought of it, marriage, alone makes >me feel like a real idiot. Personally, I will never give up my freedom in
 >exchange for a husband. For what? What good is it to me? What do I gain? I >don't joke with my freedom.>>Think about it, I can wake up anytime I want, go out when I want, come back >home when I want, make my own decision without worring about a complete >stranger, who all of sudden I have to live with for the rest of my life. I >can cook when I want, employee a house girl when I want, sleep all day if >chose to, blablablathe list is endless. Give up my freedom! I am not >that stupid.>>I am a woman who does not need money, love or anything for that matter from >any man except a child and it takes only ten seconds to ejaculate. Why >should I give my freedom for almost fifty years? Please! If the mailman >does not come around often enough, I will simply take my money from the >bank to the bank.>>Robert, what has this got to do with humanity and all the goo
 d and
 bad >women and men out there?>>>>>Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>Anyomokolo is really Molokony!>>Your experience in life Anyomokolo does not sum up the total experience>of humanity.>What you believe in is not necessarily right especially since your>reasoning has fundamental flaws.>>There are good women and bad women. There are good men and bad men.>There are good marriages and bad marriages. There happy single people>and sad single people. There happily married people and miserably>married people.>>Choosing to be single is not necessarily wrong, choosing to be married>is not necessarily right. The converse is also true. What your argument>seems to imply is that a brown dog is better than black dog.>>__

Re: ugnet_: Do love and marriage really go together anymore?


Author writes:
< divorces, "Divorce is all some people have to look forward to.">>
All they are saying:
1. If I knew what marriage is, I would have never gotten married. 
2. I want to sleep with another man. My husband has become very weak over the years. I don't want him. You go girl. This is the power and authority invested in you. 
3. There is no happiness in my heart without freedom. 
_
I really sympathise with African women who don't have a choice. I can imagine how many women in Africa/Afghanistan wake up every day to satisfy, not themselves but a man, whose penis is the size of their finger. Even worst, they can't divorce becuase divorce is not part of their culture. And, of course, according to their culture, a woman who divorces her husband is a loose (slut) woman. 
I love America with all my heart.
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 Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

GEORGIE BINKS:Do love and marriage really go together anymore? January 30, 2004 In the book Still Life with Woodpecker Tom Robbins asks the question that plagues so many people these days - how do you make love stay? Can you make it stay by marrying, by enshrining it legally, by putting a ring on a finger and swearing to love till death parts you from your loved one? According to Statistics Canada, in 2002, there were 1.5 million divorced Canadians - that's 1.5 million people who walked down an aisle, 
 took an
 oath, looked into someone's eyes and said "I do" forever, presumably with a few dreams of what that meant. Apparently, forever felt a little too long after a few years so they decided to call it quits. Was the problem them, or was it just that we expect too much of marriage? Many people speak of spending the rest of their lives with a soul mate. But is it even reasonable to look for a soul mate to be your spouse? Maybe your soul mate is one of your children, who you met in a past life. Or maybe it's one of your best friends. Samantha, Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte all discovered on one episode of Sex and the City that they could be each other's soul mates, instead of hoping to find that in a man. When men and women have such a difficult time trying to figure out what the other is trying to say, is it reasonable to think that they can spend eternity together? And should marriage be based on something as fleeting as what starts out as a ch
  emical
 reaction for many (although not all. For some it's a financial calculation). Marriage is the union job of the love industry. If you've ever been a member of a union, you'll know that once you're in it, you enjoy protection from a number of injustices your employer might choose to wreak upon you. When one marries, there is that false sense of security – the makeup can come off, the undershirt can go on, the bathroom door can stay open. For many it's a safety zone from cheating, from unfaithfulness. But for others, it's a jail, one that must be escaped by sex with random partners. Some say that men don't cheat in a marriage because they want more sex, but that they hate to be possessed 100 per cent by a woman. Cheating is their way of keeping that little bit of themselves. In a Reader's Digest poll last March, 19 per cent of married Canadians between
  35 and
 54 admitted wishing during their marriage that they could wake up one morning and not be married. Remember, that's from those who are still married. I have three female friends who to the world appear to be happily married women, but each of them has confided to me she hates her husband. One waits for the final misstep that will justify divorce, another can't oust her mate and the third waits for her affair to be detected. As a wise lawyer once said to me, when I bemoaned the growing number of divorces, "Divorce is all some people have to look forward to." True love for the rest of your life has not always been an expectation of marriage. In the past, marriage was more of a practical economic union, which seems to have morphed into a meeting of the emotions somewhere in the 18th century. But the expectations these days are different
  and
 when a marriage starts to falter, the couple is urged into counselling, so they can "work" at their marriage. Laura Kipnis in her book, Against Love, mocks the idea of working at a marriage, and the whole counselling industry that goes with it. After all, if you have to work at love, what's it all about? She says obviously maintaining a relationship nowadays is something no one should attempt to do on their own - it's far too complicated for ordinary non-trained professionals. The self help books abound with titles like Love in the Present Tense: How to Have A High Intimacy, Low Maintenance Marriage and The Sex Starved Marriage: Boosting your Marriage Libido. Just add water and it's all fixed. I've spoken to young men about their greatest fears in getting married and sadly they don't focus on falling out of love, but rather that their wife will gain weight, cut her hair and sto
  p
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Re: { SPAM 1 }::Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - Anyomokolo

Humanity or no humanity, I don't care. Experience or no experience, I don't care. Good or bad men and women, asurely don't  give a damn. The bottom line is I am grown woman and nobody is going to tell me, at least not at my age, that marriage is good for me becuase I know what is good for me. 
 
Unlike many women who are raised in a culture that does not offer them this opportunity, I am glad that I have absolute power and authority invested in me to make my own decision whether I want to get married and spend the rest of my life with a complete stranger or not.
 
Women who feel marriage is where they would find happniness, should go ahead and get married. Personally, the thought of it, marriage, alone makes me feel like a real idiot. Personally, I will never give up my freedom in exchange for a husband. For what? What good is it to me? What do I gain? I don't joke with my freedom. 
 
Think about it, I can wake up anytime I want, go out when I want, come back home when I want, make my own decision without worring about a complete stranger, who all of sudden I have to live with for the rest of my life. I can cook when I want, employee a house girl when I want, sleep all day if chose to, blablablathe list is endless. Give up my freedom! I am not that stupid.
 
I am a woman who does not need money, love or anything for that matter from any man except a child and it takes only ten seconds to ejaculate. Why should I give my freedom for almost fifty years? Please! If the mailman does not come around often enough, I will simply take my money from the bank to the bank.
 
Robert, what has this got to do with humanity and all the good and bad women and men out there?
 
I will get married when I find a man who lives with me as if he lives alone. This would be my soul mate. If you are out there, contact. You and I will get along well.
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Robert Owor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo is really Molokony!!!!!Your experience in life Anyomokolo does not sum up the total experienceof humanity.What you believe in is not necessarily right especially since yourreasoning has fundamental flaws.There are good women and bad women. There are good men and bad men.There are good marriages and bad marriages. There happy single peopleand sad single people. There happily married people and miserablymarried people.Choosing to be single is not necessarily wrong, choosing to be marriedis not necessarily right. The converse is also true. What your argumentseems to imply is that a brown dog is better than black dog.Prove me wrong!!!And where is Eve Abe if I amy get off this point?regardsSteven>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/01/04 8:13 AM >>>Owor Kipenji
 wrote:<<...marriage is not about advantages and disadvantages,but aboutsharing ...>>Why don't you start brainwashing a little girl? I am too old and I haveheard it all before. We weigh the disadv and adv of everything we do in this world. Why notmarriage? Yeah, "sharing" but at what cost to a woman? I know what is good for me and I refuse to go with the flow.Anyomokolo Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:40:46 + (GMT)From: Owor Kipenji Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - AnyomokoloTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]I married trouble(Anyomokolo) based on the reasoning you have outlinedregarding marriage,you really have a very very very loong time to wait!.The main reason being,marriage is not about advantages anddisadvantages,but about sharing unless ofcourse you think of the BritanySpears type of debacle 
 which
 clearly showed what the Western pop culturetakes marriage to be i.e a contract!.If marriage is indeed a contract,with legalese embedded therein in,weshall continue to see many divorce courts erected and so are prisons to quarantine those who behave waywardly.It will be an institution based on conspiracies and a tendency to out wit the other in order to gain the advantages you refer to in yourcomments.That is the way I see it.Thank you.Kipenji.=Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Damn! This was too good. I make sense when in the mood to express mydisgust with this dominant culture of marriage. This piece flowed sowell until I realized that I mispelled out ways. That just messed up thewhole piece. But oh well, you get the point.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:<they can race he
 ad to
 head with men are the once who find themselvessingled out and "single Independent women". the truth is they are notindependent, they just think they can ride men much as well as men canride them, you know what i mean. As a matter of fact these women arevery lonely and insecure, they would be crying all night and pretend tobe smiling in the day. Studies show that such women do not live normallyall their lives or rather sadly die young. To summarise my points, beinga house wife is not slavery but part o

ugnet_: Helicopters target acholi civilians.


Reports coming from Acholi lands is very disturbing, M7 has deployed a high Tech helicopter and it is targeting any location of human beings. The type of Bombs used are dangerous and destroy all living objects in the surrounding! Could it be  chemical associated? Today the gunship actually have killed more than 80 civilians in Acholi. Will newspaper report about it ? No!
 
Those who have their relatives serving in the direct systems or have better understanding with NRM and M7 should appeal to M7 directly to spare civilian in Acholi. They masacres civilians and count them as Rebel! Sad and sad indeed, son of Acholi like the Otema Awany should know the blood of our people will not disappear from their door step even if M7 will go away one day. The oOtema awany and company should top the genocide and immediately hence many will prefere to go and die.
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Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - Anyomokolo

Owor Kipenji wrote:
 
<<...marriage is not about advantages and disadvantages,but about sharing ...>>
 
Why don't you start brainwashing a little girl? I am too old and I have heard it all before. 
 
We weigh the disadv and adv of everything we do in this world. Why not marriage? Yeah, "sharing" but at what cost to a woman? 
 
I know what is good for me and I refuse to go with the flow.
 
Anyomokolo 
 
 
 
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:40:46 + (GMT)From: Owor Kipenji Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - AnyomokoloTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I married trouble(Anyomokolo) based on the reasoning you have outlined
regarding marriage,you really have a very very very loong time to 
wait!.
The main reason being,marriage is not about advantages and disadvantages,but about sharing unless ofcourse you think of the Britany
Spears type of debacle which clearly showed what the Western pop culture takes marriage to be i.e a contract!.
If marriage is indeed a contract,with legalese embedded therein in,we shall continue to see many divorce courts erected and so are prisons to 
quarantine those who behave waywardly.
It will be an institution based on conspiracies and a tendency to out  wit the other in order to gain the advantages you refer to in your comments.
That is the way I see it.
Thank you.
Kipenji.
=====Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Damn! This was too good. I make sense when in the mood to express my disgust with this dominant culture of marriage. This piece flowed so well until I realized that I mispelled out ways. That just messed up the whole piece. But oh well, you get the point.












[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
<>
 
Let me respond to you by 'speaking' for myself. I am a single and educated woman. I don't have any kids. I am sexually, biologically, mentally and emotionally very fit. I am young, I work every day, I can cook for myself, I wash my own clothes and clean my own house. I make enough money to take care of three children by myself and still live large. 
 
Why in the world, in my right head, for God's sake, would I want to get married and lose my freedom to the kitchen where I would be confined to between four walls laboring myself like a horse to make a man, my husband, happy? A total stranger for that matter! Are you crazy? 
 
Let me mentioned that I was raised to believe that this culture of marriage, is the best way of life for me as a woman. I never asked "HOW" or "WHY" until three years ago. I refused to follow a culture that suppresses my freedom in exchange for a man's best interest. Why should I dedicate my life to caring for another woman's child? Becuase he is my husband? 'Flip' that! I would rather die without having a husband.
 
A man who is old enough to be the 'head of the house' should get his lazy behind out of bed and cook his own damn food, and wash his own 'flipping' clothes. If he is strong enough to have an erection and have sex every day, he should be storng enough to do all the house work every day. How can a grown man be 'head of the house' when he can't do anything around the house? Please! 
 
Like I said, I was not raised this way. I was raised in an African home with very strong Luo/African culture. But three years ago, I examined this culture of marriage and realized that it serves me, a woman, no purpose in this world. 
 
Someone need to explain to me why I should lose my freedom by getting married. That is not all! On top of losing my freedom, I become a sex slaves to a man who could probably become so boring after just one or two years. That is not all! I would labor everyday like a horse; cooking, cleaning and all that. That is not all! On top of all that, this man would be controlling me, telling what to do and yet he wants me to care for him sexually, emotionally, physically and what not, as if he were my own child!  Bullsh*t! A man who can't take care of his own @#$ better go back to his mother's house because I did not bring anyone into this world. My responsibilities are my own children and not another woman's grown up, old piece of ..
 
To conlude, [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am a very happy woman. I am not lonely and I am not miserable. I live my  life the way I want to. I go whenever I want, come back to my own damn mansion whenever I please, I spend my money however I want to, but most important, I have absolute mental freedom. This include freedom to hangout with the mail man any time I want. I express myself very eloquently without beating around the bush becuase I don't give a damn about my culture nor what men think of me becuase I don't need them, men, for anything. I got my sexual freedom and my own money and that is all that matters to me. I AM A LOT HAPPIER THAN MA

Re: ugnet_: Re: When the wife earns more - Anyomokolo

Damn! This was too good. I make sense when in the mood to express my disgust with this dominant culture of marriage. This piece flowed so well until I realized that I mispelled out ways. That just messed up the whole piece. But oh well, you get the point.












[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
<>
 
Let me respond to you by 'speaking' for myself. I am a single and educated woman. I don't have any kids. I am sexually, biologically, mentally and emotionally very fit. I am young, I work every day, I can cook for myself, I wash my own clothes and clean my own house. I make enough money to take care of three children by myself and still live large. 
 
Why in the world, in my right head, for God's sake, would I want to get married and lose my freedom to the kitchen where I would be confined to between four walls laboring myself like a horse to make a man, my husband, happy? A total stranger for that matter! Are you crazy? 
 
Let me mentioned that I was raised to believe that this culture of marriage, is the best way of life for me as a woman. I never asked "HOW" or "WHY" until three years ago. I refused to follow a culture that suppresses my freedom in exchange for a man's best interest. Why should I dedicate my life to caring for another woman's child? Becuase he is my husband? 'Flip' that! I would rather die without having a husband.
 
A man who is old enough to be the 'head of the house' should get his lazy behind out of bed and cook his own damn food, and wash his own 'flipping' clothes. If he is strong enough to have an erection and have sex every day, he should be storng enough to do all the house work every day. How can a grown man be 'head of the house' when he can't do anything around the house? Please! 
 
Like I said, I was not raised this way. I was raised in an African home with very strong Luo/African culture. But three years ago, I examined this culture of marriage and realized that it serves me, a woman, no purpose in this world. 
 
Someone need to explain to me why I should lose my freedom by getting married. That is not all! On top of losing my freedom, I become a sex slaves to a man who could probably become so boring after just one or two years. That is not all! I would labor everyday like a horse; cooking, cleaning and all that. That is not all! On top of all that, this man would be controlling me, telling what to do and yet he wants me to care for him sexually, emotionally, physically and what not, as if he were my own child!  Bullsh*t! A man who can't take care of his own @#$ better go back to his mother's house because I did not bring anyone into this world. My responsibilities are my own children and not another woman's grown up, old piece of ..
 
To conlude, [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am a very happy woman. I am not lonely and I am not miserable. I live my  life the way I want to. I go whenever I want, come back to my own damn mansion whenever I please, I spend my money however I want to, but most important, I have absolute mental freedom. This include freedom to hangout with the mail man any time I want. I express myself very eloquently without beating around the bush becuase I don't give a damn about my culture nor what men think of me becuase I don't need them, men, for anything. I got my sexual freedom and my own money and that is all that matters to me. I AM A LOT HAPPIER THAN MANY HOUSEWIVES; especially those who are financially dependent on their husbands.
 

I need only one thing from men and I don't need to get married and go through all that bullsh*t in order to get it. The mail man delivers mail at least twice a week. If want to have a baby, all agotta do is take my money from the bank to the bank. 
 
I will get married when the advantages outweighs the disadvantages. For now, to hell with marriage.
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
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Let me respond to you by 'speaking' for myself. I am a single and educated woman. I don't have any kids. I am sexually, biologically, mentally and emotionally very fit. I am young, I work every day, I can cook for myself, I wash my own clothes and clean my own house. I make enough money to take care of three children by myself and still live large. 
 
Why in the world, in my right head, for God's sake, would I want to get married and lose my freedom to the kitchen where I would be confined to between four walls laboring myself like a horse to make a man, my husband, happy? A total stranger for that matter! Are you crazy? 
 
Let me mentioned that I was raised to believe that this culture of marriage, is the best way of life for me as a woman. I never asked "HOW" or "WHY" until three years ago. I refused to follow a culture that suppresses my freedom in exchange for a man's best interest. Why should I dedicate my life to caring for another woman's child? Becuase he is my husband? 'Flip' that! I would rather die without having a husband.
 
A man who is old enough to be the 'head of the house' should get his lazy behind out of bed and cook his own damn food, and wash his own 'flipping' clothes. If he is strong enough to have an erection and have sex every day, he should be storng enough to do all the house work every day. How can a grown man be 'head of the house' when he can't do anything around the house? Please! 
 
Like I said, I was not raised this way. I was raised in an African home with very strong Luo/African culture. But three years ago, I examined this culture of marriage and realized that it serves me, a woman, no purpose in this world. 
 
Someone need to explain to me why I should lose my freedom by getting married. That is not all! On top of losing my freedom, I become a sex slaves to a man who could probably become so boring after just one or two years. That is not all! I would labor everyday like a horse; cooking, cleaning and all that. That is not all! On top of all that, this man would be controlling me, telling what to do and yet he wants me to care for him sexually, emotionally, physically and what not, as if he were my own child!  Bullsh*t! A man who can't take care of his own @#$ better go back to his mother's house because I did not bring anyone into this world. My responsibilities are my own children and not another woman's grown up, old piece of ..
 
To conlude, [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am a very happy woman. I am not lonely and I am not miserable. I live my  life the way I want to. I go whenever I want, come back to my own damn mansion whenever I please, I spend my money however I want to, but most important, I have absolute mental freedom. This include freedom to hangout with the mail man any time I want. I express myself very eloquently without beating around the bush becuase I don't give a damn about my culture nor what men think of me becuase I don't need them, men, for anything. I got my sexual freedom and my own money and that is all that matters to me. I AM A LOT HAPPIER THAN MANY HOUSEWIVES; especially those who are financially dependent on their husbands.
 

I need only one thing from men and I don't need to get married and go through all that bullsh*t in order to get it. The mail man delivers mail at least twice a week. If want to have a baby, all agotta do is take my money from the bank to the bank. 
 
I will get married when the advantages outways the disadvantages. For now, to hell with marriage.
 
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Re: ugnet_: Sperm bank in fresh appeal for donors!.Men Where art Thou????

Egg Donation: Booming Baby Business?Is Donation Practice Turning Babies Into Commodity?http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/health/2667719/detail.htmlOver the past decade, egg donation programs have become mainstream [in theUSA]. They offer an option for interfile couples, most of whom waited toolong to have children. But with criteria like 1400 SAT scores, athleticbuild and beauty, some people worry the practice is turning babies into acommodity. Advertisements are popping up in college newspapers across thecountry that offer $20,000 or more to young, attractive, healthy, smartwomen willing to donate their eggs. While infertile couples consider ittheir best chance for a child, others worry it is turning babies into abusiness. Your
 complete pre-conception, pregnancy and parenting resource! http://www.thebabycorner.com/di.DI Chat -- Every Tuesday night at 9:00 pm Eastern at http://thebabycorner.com/boards/bcchat.php.Visit the DI Bulleten BoardS!DI Parents Board - http://www.thebabycorner.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?forumid=78Trying to Conceive with DI Board - http://www.thebabycorner.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?forumid=13.For more DI information and resources, go to http://www.angelfire.com/bc/donorinseminationOwor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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Sperm bank in fresh appeal for donors 
By Obote Akoko 
The country’s first sperm bank, based at Kenyatta National Hospital, has sent a fresh appeal for donors to service a growing clientele. 
Project head, Prof Christine Kigondu, said the project is recruiting at least 100 regular sperm donors. "We have many clients on the waiting list and so our objective is to recruit and maintain a regular brigade of top quality donors." 
The project, she told Horizon, has been receiving many inquiries about their services, hence the fresh appeal for volunteer sperm donors. 
However, she was categorical that the University of Nairobi- KNH joint initiative does not purchase or trade in sperms but banks them for use in treatment of women unable to conceive. 
A close collaboration between the sperm bank is being forged with the recently acquired test-tube baby making technology at the Kenya Medical Research Institute. 
According Prof. Kigondu, the demand for infertility treatment using donated stored sperms has significantly increased in the country since her project was launched early last year. 
"Observations from our fertility clinics indicate that many couples need help because of male partners whom for one reason or another cannot sire children," she said. 
One segment that could benefit from the facility, she said, are Kenyan soldiers proceeding on foreign peace keeping missions. "They could take advantage to deposit their reproductive health seeds in the bank," she said. 
Before the US marines left for the Gulf Wars of 1991 and 2003, many banked their sperms together with their wills - just in case!  
Studies done at KNH a few years ago under the auspices of the World Health Organisation showed that the male factor was responsible for infertility in 30 per cent of the couples.  
Apart from genetic causes, sexually transmitted infections (STIs), environmental and other factors affect the ability of men to produce healthy sperms and in enough numbers to fertilise eggs produced by their wives. 
Affected men either produce very few or no sperms at all. Semen carrying sperms may also fail to deliver the male fertility seeds to cause pregnancy in a woman due to obstruction of the sperm duct. 
Men producing the so-called lazy sperms, deformed or abnormally shaped sperms also have reduced chances of impregnating women, hence the need to assist their partners sire babies using high quality donated sperms. 
"Even men who produce fewer numbers of sperms can benefit by donating their own sperms to be concentrated (or pooled), washed and then given to their wives without relying on other males," says Prof Kigondu. 
According to the University of Nairobi gynaecology professor, people with certain diseases like cancer can donate their sperms for storage before undergoing radiotherapy and chemotherapy to reduce the chances of destroying their reproductive health seeds. 
Such sperms are frozen in liquid nitrogen tanks for years until required by the donors’ partners. For this and other noble causes, many public and private sperm banks today exist in developed countries. Only wills are written to specify how the donated/stored sperms can be used or destroyed much later. 
During an interview recently, the KNH sperm bank boss said the younger men today suffer from infertility yet they neither go for medical check-ups nor seek help to enable their wives bear children. 
"In the majority of cases, men, more in rural areas, still blame women for childlessness when in fact they (the men) sometimes acquire infertility right from childhood," she said. 
She cautioned that early childhood diseases like mumps, coupled with STIs later in life, destroy the male reproductive germ cells, leading to infer

Re: ugnet_: Scared of Wife having 2much money?

Ed, what is the point of having so much money without sexual freedom? Historically, marriage is intended to take that away from a woman. Besides, this is America and the public figure thing also counts. First lady? So what? I would strive for my sexual freedom.  
 
Kironde, if I had that kinda money, you would see power written all over my face. I got power now but...
Anyomokolo.
 
Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







 

Kerry's gold She's rich, clever, outspoken (in several languages) and she's got money ... lots of it. And if she has anything to do with things, she'll be America's next First Lady, wife of a Democrat President Edward HelmoreSunday January 25,
 2004The Observer Last week, as she has done every week since the presidential election season began last March, Teresa Heinz Kerry was campaigning for her husband. But she was not campaigning with her husband. 
Unlike the typical templates for political wives - those such as Laura Bush, who know their place at their husband's side, or those such as Hillary Clinton, who have their own agenda to advance, or even those such as Dr Judith Steinberg, the wife of Howard Dean, who has avoided the spotlight altogether - Heinz Kerry runs her own discrete show in support of her husband. She has her own schedule, her own staff in Washington and her own private plane when needed, called The Flying Squirrel. 
She doesn't wear campaign buttons and sometimes even forgets to introduce herself as a presidential candidate's wife. On a recent tour of Latino businesses in Manchester, New Hampshire, the French-African owner of a barbershop, who'd been swapping stories with her in French about growing up in Africa, said she hadn't mentioned her husband was running for president. But, said Victor Mbuyi, 'her French was very good'. 
If her spouse of nine years, John Kerry, goes on to win the White House, she will make a First Lady quite unlike any America has seen before. Portuguese by birth, she was raised in Africa and educated in Switzerland. Spont
 aneous
 and independent of mind; candid and direct to the point of being impolitic, she is like her husband, a pro-choice Roman Catholic. And she is independently wealthy, to the tune of $550 million, from her first marriage to the late senator John Heinz, heir to the ketchup fortune. She remains a power in her own right as head of the Howard Heinz Endowment and Heinz Family Philanthropies, a charity with a billion-dollar endowment that gives away millions each year to environmental, educational and health causes. 
It is a shared passion for the environment that brought John Kerry and Teresa Heinz together. They met at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, where she had been sent as delegate by the first President Bush. That was 12 months after John Heinz, a potential presidential candidate himself, died in a plane crash. She and Kerry subsequently bonded after he recited a prayer - in Latin - at a Mass they both attended. 
To friends, the couple are ideally suited and it is a marriage of equals. For his part, Senator Kerry seems unfazed by, even celebrates, his wife's individuality and honesty. His prospective First Lady, he says is 'nurturing and incredibly loving, and fun, zany, witty ... definitely sexy. Very earthy, sexy, European.' 
Within and beyond the borders of the US, the still glamorous THK, at 65 years old, offers a refreshing and worldly perspective for a US politician's wife. The daughter of a prominent Portuguese doctor, Heinz Kerry, née Maria Teresa Thierstein Simoes-Ferreira, grew up in Mozambique. She attended a school run by British nuns, and later studied Romance languages at senior school in South Africa, where she became involved in the nascent anti-apartheid movement of the late 1950s. At university in Geneva, she was a classmate of Kofi Annan at the city's School of Interpreters. Now fluent in five languages, she graduated and went to New York to become an interpreter at the United Nations, before marrying Heinz in 1966. 'I had no ambition,' she once said. 'I thought of myself as being married and having children, which is what all the ladies did.' 
That's no longer the case, if it ever was. When the results in New Hampshire come in on Tuesday night, Mrs Heinz Kerry may become a singularly important figure. 'It's not an easy choice to do this, and she feels it is important,' says spokeswoman Christine Anderson. 'But she doesn't want to be involved in policy per se or hold an official job. She would rather keep working on the issues she cares about. She wants to keep her job to run the Heinz Endowments, and she would keep doing that if she were First Lady.' 
Those who know her well say she is generous to a fault and, for someone who could easily have everything done for her, is well able to look after herself. 'She's a powerhouse

Re: ugnet_: note to Anyomokolo

I gotcha!jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo,when I said 'freak' I was referring to your attitude as regards to sex. Surely this does not mean that I know you !By the way, since you seem to have read this comment, then you must have also seen my other comments about your wayward sex life because they were in the same posting. Just forget that I called it 'lecture'.Kasangwawo>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: note to Anyomokolo>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:25:34 -0500 (EST)>>Jonah writes:>><>know you ! So why should I be disliking you?>>>You read what I write. Don't you? Recently you said that I was indeed a >freak. You don't even know me. How could
  you
 conclude that?>>Can you repost your nomadic lecture. I read Rehema's nomadism but not >yours. Are you the same person? I don't think so! I know how you write >when writing to a woman.>Anyomokolo>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>Anyomokolo,>>why are you saying that I disappeared ? Just recently I gave you a lecture>about your, er.. 'nomadic' sex life - didn't you see it ?>But where do you get the idea that I don't like you ? Girl, I don't even>know you ! So why should I be disliking you ?>>Kasangwawo>> >From: Anyomokolo> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:28:53 -0500 (EST)> >> >Jonah, I was wondering where you were becuase sinc
 e I came
 back you> >dissappeared as if you don't like me. How are you?> >Anyomokolo> >> >jonah kasangwawo wrote:> >Mw. Ssemakula,> >> >you are spot on ! When the Kabaka keeps quiet, they say he doesn't care.> >When he says or does something, the same people attack him for having >done> >so.> >> >But what is most abominable are the lies they concoct along the way. The> >mouthpiece of the communications gang is telling us that this is the >first> >time the Kabaka has said anything about the war in the north. Now, that >is> >the mother of all lies.> >> >Kasangwawo> >> >> > >From: "J Ssemakula"> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> > >Dat
 e: Thu,
 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +> > >> >> >_> >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!> >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger> >> >> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822> >From: "J Ssemakula"> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +> >> >> >> >> >And here I was, thinking that bringing peace to Northern Uganda is more> >important than "the political status" whoever facilitates the process. I> >suppose, the end does not justify the means.> >> >I wonder, is there another agenda here or is it just the usual plain,> >garden variety, ntondo?> >> >Damned if you do, damned if you d
 on't
 ...> >> >> >> >> >> >Original Message Follows> >From: Owor Kipenji> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:16:08 + (GMT)> >> >Why ask this question?.Has there even been a time in the History> >of the Kingdom,when the Kabaka was not political?.> >We really need a reality check here because even if Mu7 tells Ugandans> >that the restored Kingdoms are traditional institutions,he should know> >that culture per se can be used as a political tools and hence the >rantings> >that the Kabaka is not political is a contradiction.> >Most of us may think the Kabaka is not political because he does not> >have authorities to levy taxes on his subjects and on those
 occupying> >his properties but that in itself does not mean he is apolitical because> >he can use his immense influence within the cultural context to cause> >mayhem for the pretenders to the throne like the NRM ideologues!.> >Remember how the Quebecors in Canada have adroitly used culture to> >make big political gains?.> >So lets' not be lulled into thinking that the Kabaka is not political.He >is> >indeed 

Re: ugnet_: note to Anyomokolo

jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyomokolo,when I said 'freak' I was referring to your attitude as regards to sex. Surely this does not mean that I know you !By the way, since you seem to have read this comment, then you must have also seen my other comments about your wayward sex life because they were in the same posting. Just forget that I called it 'lecture'.Kasangwawo>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: note to Anyomokolo>Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 14:25:34 -0500 (EST)>>Jonah writes:>><>know you ! So why should I be disliking you?>>>You read what I write. Don't you? Recently you said that I was indeed a >freak. You don't even know me. How could
  you
 conclude that?>>Can you repost your nomadic lecture. I read Rehema's nomadism but not >yours. Are you the same person? I don't think so! I know how you write >when writing to a woman.>Anyomokolo>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>>jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>Anyomokolo,>>why are you saying that I disappeared ? Just recently I gave you a lecture>about your, er.. 'nomadic' sex life - didn't you see it ?>But where do you get the idea that I don't like you ? Girl, I don't even>know you ! So why should I be disliking you ?>>Kasangwawo>> >From: Anyomokolo> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:28:53 -0500 (EST)> >> >Jonah, I was wondering where you were becuase sinc
 e I came
 back you> >dissappeared as if you don't like me. How are you?> >Anyomokolo> >> >jonah kasangwawo wrote:> >Mw. Ssemakula,> >> >you are spot on ! When the Kabaka keeps quiet, they say he doesn't care.> >When he says or does something, the same people attack him for having >done> >so.> >> >But what is most abominable are the lies they concoct along the way. The> >mouthpiece of the communications gang is telling us that this is the >first> >time the Kabaka has said anything about the war in the north. Now, that >is> >the mother of all lies.> >> >Kasangwawo> >> >> > >From: "J Ssemakula"> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> > >Dat
 e: Thu,
 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +> > >> >> >_> >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!> >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger> >> >> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822> >From: "J Ssemakula"> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +> >> >> >> >> >And here I was, thinking that bringing peace to Northern Uganda is more> >important than "the political status" whoever facilitates the process. I> >suppose, the end does not justify the means.> >> >I wonder, is there another agenda here or is it just the usual plain,> >garden variety, ntondo?> >> >Damned if you do, damned if you d
 on't
 ...> >> >> >> >> >> >Original Message Follows> >From: Owor Kipenji> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:16:08 + (GMT)> >> >Why ask this question?.Has there even been a time in the History> >of the Kingdom,when the Kabaka was not political?.> >We really need a reality check here because even if Mu7 tells Ugandans> >that the restored Kingdoms are traditional institutions,he should know> >that culture per se can be used as a political tools and hence the >rantings> >that the Kabaka is not political is a contradiction.> >Most of us may think the Kabaka is not political because he does not> >have authorities to levy taxes on his subjects and on those
 occupying> >his properties but that in itself does not mean he is apolitical because> >he can use his immense influence within the cultural context to cause> >mayhem for the pretenders to the throne like the NRM ideologues!.> >Remember how the Quebecors in Canada have adroitly used culture to> >make big political gains?.> >So lets' not be lulled into thinking that the Kabaka is not political.He >is> >indeed the epit

Re: ugnet_: note to Anyomokolo

Jonah writes:
 
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You read what I write. Don't you? Recently you said that I was indeed a freak. You don't even know me. How could you conclude that? 
 
Can you repost your nomadic lecture. I read Rehema's nomadism but not yours. Are you the same person?  I don't think so! I know how you write when writing to a woman.
Anyomokolo
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jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo,why are you saying that I disappeared ? Just recently I gave you a lecture about your, er.. 'nomadic' sex life - didn't you see it ?But where do you get the idea that I don't like you ? Girl, I don't even know you ! So why should I be disliking you ?Kasangwawo>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:28:53 -0500 (EST)>>Jonah, I was wondering where you were becuase since I came back you >dissappeared as if you don't like me. How are you?>Anyomokolo>>jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>Mw. Ssemakula,>>you are spot on ! When the Kabaka keeps quiet, they say he doesn't care.>When he says or doe
 s
 something, the same people attack him for having done>so.>>But what is most abominable are the lies they concoct along the way. The>mouthpiece of the communications gang is telling us that this is the first>time the Kabaka has said anything about the war in the north. Now, that is>the mother of all lies.>>Kasangwawo>>> >From: "J Ssemakula"> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +> >>>_>It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!>http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger>>> > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822>From: "J Ssemakula">To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan
  Elders
 Over LRA Rebels>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +>>>>>And here I was, thinking that bringing peace to Northern Uganda is more >important than "the political status" whoever facilitates the process. I >suppose, the end does not justify the means.>>I wonder, is there another agenda here or is it just the usual plain, >garden variety, ntondo?>>Damned if you do, damned if you don't ...>>>>>>Original Message Follows>From: Owor Kipenji>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:16:08 + (GMT)>>Why ask this question?.Has there even been a time in the History>of the Kingdom,when the Kabaka was not political?.>We really need a reality check here because even if Mu7 tells
 Ugandans>that the restored Kingdoms are traditional institutions,he should know>that culture per se can be used as a political tools and hence the rantings >that the Kabaka is not political is a contradiction.>Most of us may think the Kabaka is not political because he does not>have authorities to levy taxes on his subjects and on those occupying>his properties but that in itself does not mean he is apolitical because>he can use his immense influence within the cultural context to cause>mayhem for the pretenders to the throne like the NRM ideologues!.>Remember how the Quebecors in Canada have adroitly used culture to>make big political gains?.>So lets' not be lulled into thinking that the Kabaka is not political.He is>indeed the epitome of the political aspirations of most of his people so>do not malign him.>Thank
 you.>Kipenji.>===>>Mulindwa Edward wrote:>Is the Kabaka political now?>>>Em>> The Mulindwas Communication Group>"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"> Groupe de communication Mulindwas>"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie">- Original Message ->From: J Ssemakula>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:57 PM>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels>>>>Likewise, I salute the Kabaka for trying to search for peace to end the >misery of our suffering brethren.>>Ssemakula>>>>>Original Message Follows>From: Rehema Mukooza>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders O
 ver LRA
 Rebels>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:41:40 -0800 (PST)>>I am pleased to see our King Ronald Mutebi extending his hand to try with 

Re: ugnet_: Myths women have about men

Are you a man or a woman? I can't tell by your name. I think you are a man 'coz you are too curious.Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
Do whatever you wanna do with your sexual nomadism where you move from one greener pastures to the next.  Like I've said before, Sky is the limit.  Just wrap it up!
 
One question:  You recently told us that you wrap it up (safety).  
How are you going to have (conceive) your unborn daughter without unwrapping it (especially to several men)??  What kind of wrapping and safety is that??  Is this hypocracy or what??  Maybe I'm mistaken, but then I don't know until you let me what to think.
 
Are you going for artifical insemination (test tube baby) to stay truth to your allegiance of wrapping it up??  I'm curious.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Next do a much better job and don't use patriarchy and men interchangeably. 
A man I date does not have to be a male chauvinist in order for me to exercise my natural rights and freedom. I have the right to share my property with whomever I want, when I want to, where I want to and how I want it. What has this got to do with the mentality of the man? For all I care he could be a feminist, adon’t giva shit! I am doing what I want to do. Likewise, he can also do his heart’s desire. 
Of course I will get tired when I turn 50yrs old and my daughter, which I don’t have yet, leaves home and begin following her mothers footsteps. That is right! Unlike the way her mother was raised, she is going to live her life to care for her  interest. Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriachial mentality (raised to respect men)??  
 
Are you telling me absolutely that there is no "inbetween patriachial mentality and playing" where no one has to use or serve the other??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither serving nor playing??  A sensible man who is not interested in being served or playing you.  I mean a relationship based on love and not playing or using each other.  But rather enjoying each other's company with no hidden agendas.  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't know if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality in a man who does not posses it.  Do you understand my point here??   
 
Why would you in otherwise fight (by playing) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??  That tells me that the men/man you are seeing is/are playa(s).  
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play on as you wish until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, games are possible!  
 
I've finished proof reading, editing, correcting grammar mistakes and all that.  What is your definition of patriachy??  I think that I have an idea of where you're coming from (understanding), but I'm so sure.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You are absolutely new to my style of writing, but you will learn that my words on any Internet group are very carefully chosen for a purpose. 
I have read you more than once but I don’t quite get your point. I suggest you proofread and correct your grammar, eliminate verbiage and resend. You make me lose my definition of patriarchy. Thus, as much as I would like to, I can’t answer your questions.  
Proofread your piece and resend. 
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriach mentality??  Are you telling me absolutely that there is no 'inbetween patriach mentality and playing' where no one has to use/serve the other and yet not "playing" the game??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither 'serving' nor 'playing'??  A man who is not 'using' nor 'playing' you too??  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality with your actions towards.  Why would you in otherwise fight (play) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??
 
That game you are talking a

Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels

Jonah, I was wondering where you were becuase since I came back you dissappeared as if you don't like me. How are you?
Anyomokolojonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mw. Ssemakula,you are spot on ! When the Kabaka keeps quiet, they say he doesn't care. When he says or does something, the same people attack him for having done so.But what is most abominable are the lies they concoct along the way. The mouthpiece of the communications gang is telling us that this is the first time the Kabaka has said anything about the war in the north. Now, that is the mother of all lies.Kasangwawo>From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +>_It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today!
 http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA RebelsDate: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:23:06 +


 
And here I was, thinking that bringing peace to Northern Uganda is more important than "the political status" whoever facilitates the process.  I suppose, the end does not justify the means. 
I wonder, is there another agenda here or is it just the usual plain, garden variety, ntondo?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't ...
 
Original Message Follows 
From: Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 13:16:08 + (GMT) 

Why ask this question?.Has there even been a time in the History 
of the Kingdom,when the Kabaka was not political?. 
We really need a reality check here because even if Mu7 tells Ugandans 
that the restored Kingdoms are traditional institutions,he should know 
that culture per se can be used as a political tools and hence the rantings that the Kabaka is not political is a contradiction. 
Most of us may think the Kabaka is not political because he does not 
have authorities to levy taxes on his subjects and on those occupying 
his properties but that in itself does not mean he is apolitical because 
he can use his immense influence within the cultural context to cause 
mayhem for the pretenders to the throne like the NRM ideologues!. 
Remember how the Quebecors in Canada have adroitly used culture to 
make big political gains?. 
So lets' not be lulled into thinking that the Kabaka is not political.He is 
indeed the epitome of the political aspirations of  most of his people so 
do not malign him. 
Thank you. 
Kipenji. 
=== 

Mulindwa Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
Is the Kabaka political now? 


Em 

 The Mulindwas Communication Group 
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" 
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas 
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" 
- Original Message - 
From: J Ssemakula 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:57 PM 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels 



Likewise, I  salute the Kabaka for trying to search for peace to end the misery of our suffering brethren. 

Ssemakula 




Original Message Follows 
From: Rehema Mukooza 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels 
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:41:40 -0800 (PST) 

I am pleased to see our King Ronald Mutebi extending his hand to try with other traditional leaders to get some ways of resolving this issue in the North.  The war will not stop itself as the government is wishing for.  I believe that all traditional leaders have always wanted to work together towards a stable Uganda but our own gov't is working tirelessly to break this corrabollation and understanding among our traditional leaders.  Why? It's the work of evilness our gov't has always as usual worked on. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kabaka to Meet Sudan Elders Over LRA Rebels 

New Vision (Kampala)January 17, 2004 
Posted to the web January 19, 2004 Josephine Maseruka 
Kampala Kabaka Ronald Mutebi has accepted to meet traditional leaders from southern Sudan to discuss ways of ending the17-year northern Uganda insurgency by the Joseph Kony rebels. 

The Kabaka made the commitment on Thursday when he received the in-charge of conflict issues in the confederation of Switzerland, Ambassador Joseph Bucher 
The meeting was held at Kabaka's Banda palace. 

Bucher met the Kabaka to discuss the role of traditional leaders in conflict resolution.He said his government would in the next two months organise a conference on ending armed conflicts for traditional leaders in the region. 

On Tuesday, the head of the European Union delegation in Uganda, Sigurd Illing, asked the Governme

ugnet_: Signs of bad mothering

How in the world could I refer to my precious power as 'which'. I am going to print this email and save it. One day I show her. Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Next do a much better job and don't use patriarchy and men interchangeably. 
A man I date does not have to be a male chauvinist in order for me to exercise my natural rights and freedom. I have the right to share my property with whomever I want, when I want to, where I want to and how I want it. What has this got to do with the mentality of the man? For all I care he could be a feminist, adon’t giva shit! I am doing what I want to do. Likewise, he can also do his heart’s desire. 
Of course I will get tired when I turn 50yrs old and my daughter, which I don’t have yet, leaves home and begin following her mothers footsteps. That is right! Unlike the way her mother was raised, she is going to live her life to care for her  interest. Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 


Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriachial mentality (raised to respect men)??  
 
Are you telling me absolutely that there is no "inbetween patriachial mentality and playing" where no one has to use or serve the other??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither serving nor playing??  A sensible man who is not interested in being served or playing you.  I mean a relationship based on love and not playing or using each other.  But rather enjoying each other's company with no hidden agendas.  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't know if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality in a man who does not posses it.  Do you understand my point here??   
 
Why would you in otherwise fight (by playing) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??  That tells me that the men/man you are seeing is/are playa(s).  
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play on as you wish until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, games are possible!  
 
I've finished proof reading, editing, correcting grammar mistakes and all that.  What is your definition of patriachy??  I think that I have an idea of where you're coming from (understanding), but I'm so sure.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You are absolutely new to my style of writing, but you will learn that my words on any Internet group are very carefully chosen for a purpose. 
I have read you more than once but I don’t quite get your point. I suggest you proofread and correct your grammar, eliminate verbiage and resend. You make me lose my definition of patriarchy. Thus, as much as I would like to, I can’t answer your questions.  
Proofread your piece and resend. 
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriach mentality??  Are you telling me absolutely that there is no 'inbetween patriach mentality and playing' where no one has to use/serve the other and yet not "playing" the game??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither 'serving' nor 'playing'??  A man who is not 'using' nor 'playing' you too??  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality with your actions towards.  Why would you in otherwise fight (play) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play as you want until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, everything game is possible!  
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rehema Mukooza wrote:
 
<>
 
Trust me! Am beating them at their own game. There is no turning back for me.  Power!
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
Hahahaha, lolololol.  I have nothing more to say, you said it all.  
 
I have to give it up to you for saying it as it is, "They all have a penis! Most women don't know."  You've got t

Re: ugnet_: Myths women have about men

 Next do a much better job and don't use patriarchy and men interchangeably.
A man I date does not have to be a male chauvinist in order for me to exercise my natural rights and freedom. I have the right to share my property with whomever I want, when I want to, where I want to and how I want it. What has this got to do with the mentality of the man? For all I care he could be a feminist, adon’t giva shit! I am doing what I want to do. Likewise, he can also do his heart’s desire. 
Of course I will get tired when I turn 50yrs old and my daughter, which I don’t have yet, leaves home and begin following her mothers footsteps. That is right! Unlike the way her mother was raised, she is going to live her life to care for her  interest. Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriachial mentality (raised to respect men)??  
 
Are you telling me absolutely that there is no "inbetween patriachial mentality and playing" where no one has to use or serve the other??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither serving nor playing??  A sensible man who is not interested in being served or playing you.  I mean a relationship based on love and not playing or using each other.  But rather enjoying each other's company with no hidden agendas.  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't know if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality in a man who does not posses it.  Do you understand my point here??   
 
Why would you in otherwise fight (by playing) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??  That tells me that the men/man you are seeing is/are playa(s).  
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play on as you wish until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, games are possible!  
 
I've finished proof reading, editing, correcting grammar mistakes and all that.  What is your definition of patriachy??  I think that I have an idea of where you're coming from (understanding), but I'm so sure.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You are absolutely new to my style of writing, but you will learn that my words on any Internet group are very carefully chosen for a purpose. 
I have read you more than once but I don’t quite get your point. I suggest you proofread and correct your grammar, eliminate verbiage and resend. You make me lose my definition of patriarchy. Thus, as much as I would like to, I can’t answer your questions.  
Proofread your piece and resend. 
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriach mentality??  Are you telling me absolutely that there is no 'inbetween patriach mentality and playing' where no one has to use/serve the other and yet not "playing" the game??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither 'serving' nor 'playing'??  A man who is not 'using' nor 'playing' you too??  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality with your actions towards.  Why would you in otherwise fight (play) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play as you want until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, everything game is possible!  
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rehema Mukooza wrote:
 
<>
 
Trust me! Am beating them at their own game. There is no turning back for me.  Power!
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
Hahahaha, lolololol.  I have nothing more to say, you said it all.  
 
I have to give it up to you for saying it as it is, "They all have a penis! Most women don't know."  You've got that right!  Hahahaha, lolololololol, Ouchh!  That hurts!  
 
Play on sister, the game is on.  Just make sure you're ahead of the game.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ugnet_: Myths women have about men

You are absolutely new to my style of writing, but you will learn that my words on any Internet group are very carefully chosen for a purpose. 
I have read you more than once but I don’t quite get your point. I suggest you proofread and correct your grammar, eliminate verbiage and resend. You make me lose my definition of patriarchy. Thus, as much as I would like to, I can’t answer your questions.  
Proofread your piece and resend. 
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
How many are you actually "beating" at their own game??  Hahahaha, this is the trick right here.  Are you trying to say that if women don't play men, then they have a partriach mentality??  Are you telling me absolutely that there is no 'inbetween patriach mentality and playing' where no one has to use/serve the other and yet not "playing" the game??  
Are you saying that you can not meet a man whom you are neither 'serving' nor 'playing'??  A man who is not 'using' nor 'playing' you too??  
 
Don't or won't you get tired of the game after sometime??  I think and I don't if I'm right that you are attracted to playas/users/patriachial mentality based men.  Otherwise, there would be no need for you to fight the patriachial mentality with your actions towards.  Why would you in otherwise fight (play) something (patriachial mentality) that didn't exist in the kind of man/men you are seeing??
 
That game you are talking about from my perspective requires alot of energy to keep it running!  Seriously, you must have alot of time on your hands to keep it up.  Play as you want until you get tired.  Sky is the limit, everything game is possible!  
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Rehema Mukooza wrote:
 
<>
 
Trust me! Am beating them at their own game. There is no turning back for me.  Power!
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
Hahahaha, lolololol.  I have nothing more to say, you said it all.  
 
I have to give it up to you for saying it as it is, "They all have a penis! Most women don't know."  You've got that right!  Hahahaha, lolololololol, Ouchh!  That hurts!  
 
Play on sister, the game is on.  Just make sure you're ahead of the game.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As women, unless you are me, wowen will always have myths about men becuase we are brainwashed by patriarchy childhood and raised with a limited knowledge of who men really are. 
 
We are raised to live our lives to care for men best interest but not our own interest and we never question it becuase it is a very dominant culture (patriarchy) that we are born in. Well, I questioned this dominant culture three years ago, and I am who I am today becuase the answers to my question made no sense to me. 
 
 We (women) are raised to be stupid so that we are vulnerable to men. It is the only single reason women are so easily deceived, used, abused repeatedly by men, one after the other. Unless of course in a culture where a woman is socially supressed like the Taliban. It is becuase we are stupid, not by nature, but becuase we are denied knowledge about men's psyche. That coupled with the fact our (woman) natural ability, which I often refer to as 'power' since I discovered it three years ago, to counteract men's natural behaviour is supressed by very serious patriarchal brainwashing from childhood,  certainly makes a woman very vulnerable and truly stupid. 
 
If all women knew what I know about men, women would have no myths about men becuase all men are the same: They all have a penis! Most women don't know. 
 
PowerOwor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 






10 myths women have about men 



By Susan Hayden 














 

As perceptive as women can be, they have yet to figure out the male psyche — an interesting and sometimes frightening place from which men forge their own unique approach to life. To gain a little perspective on man and his muse, we approached a variety of men with some of the more common female perceptions of them. Not surprisingly, we found out that a lot of those beliefs are, in fact, misperceptions, and the guys we spoke with were more than eager to clear them up. Though a highly subjectiv
  e
 survey, here are some of the more interesting truths revealed from the mouths of men: 1. Men are not interested in what women have to say "Men are interested in what women have to say," countered Chris, 27, "as long as it involves one of the following: Our favorite sport, our favorite activity or your naked body. For example, many men would find it extremely interesting if a woman said, 'A couple of years ago, I got so drunk that I showed up nude to a football game.'" 2. Men want somebody who is just like their mother "Men do want somebody wh

Re: ugnet_: Words of Wisdom

 
This is what I mean by we women are raised to be stupid so that we are easily manupilated by men to their advantage but at our, women's, expense. Catherine Owor writes in detail about what 'comprises a stupid woman and how we are raised to care for men's interest. I gotta to admit that  I used to be stupid too as a woman but all that changed three years ago. Like I said, there is no turning back for me.
 
Question ladies. 
 
Have you ever wondered why boys think that girls are just stupid? The answer is very detailed below in Catherines experienced. I am sure they (men) wonder what stupid brains we have and how we can be so easily brainwashed to give up our our own freedom and life in order to care for their asses.  
 
Like I said, it requires some serious training from childhood just like Catherine stated so clearly. 
Men, we are not stupid by nature! Get it?
 
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Words of wisdom 
After attending numerous weddings and bridal parties in the past few weeks, CATHERINE AWUOR shares some of what she learnt
December had a record number of weddings. Many people had to attend more than two every Saturday. With the weddings, came bridal showers and stag nights and pre-weddings and a whole lot of other wedding-related stuff. The situation wasn't much different in Tanzania where I finished up the year. They do weddings in style there, with a bridal shower, kitchen party and send off party before the wedding.
This Saturday and the next two or three, I'd like to look at the advice the couple, more so the girl is given. Okay, I realise that sentence reads like the beginning of a lecture, but this article won't be that bad. Having had a number of friends get married last year and having attended a record number of advice-giving sessions, I figured I'd share what I learnt. You see, with these things, they not only talk to the bride-to-be, they insist that all unmarried girls pay attention. There actually was a lot of sense spoken, but you know me, I'd rather highlight the nonsense (and that's a collective opinion not mine) that was said.
Here's a list, not in any particular order, of some of the 'words of wisdom' they chose to impart.
1) Put God first, then your husband and your children.
Sounds great if taken at face value. Perfect ingredients for a happy home, God first in everything, then total devotion to your husband and kids. Problem is, the people giving the advice have some pretty weird advice on how the husband first thing goes. I've stated repeatedly that I'm not a feminist, however there are certain ideas I just don't buy. Apparently, we are still supposed to sit up with a warm meal waiting for him at whatever time he comes home. Oh, hell no, the brother better learn to use the microwave. In addition, as the woman, it's your responsibility to take care of him. They aren't talking only cooking, you need to make sure he brushes his teeth, washes his underwear, replaces torn underwear etc. Help me out here; the man is thirty and the girl's supposed to remind him to wash his underwear? What was his mother telling him the first years of his life? How do you go about it anyhow? "Honey, I love 
 you, but
 you really should wash your underwear with soap and water." There's a verse repeatedly quoted at these functions. Something about the man being the head of the household. God have mercy on marriages if the head of the household has to be reminded to brush his teeth. 
They say one needs to work at a marriage to make it a success: what they're describing here is hard labour. Isn't it written somewhere that you should love others as you love yourself? In my books, that means the list should read God first, you, then your hubby, but what do I know, I'm just a selfish single person thoroughly enjoying my life.
2) It's your responsibility to make sure your husband stays faithful.
Again, makes perfect sense if you take it as it is. The woman should make sure she maintains her appearance and stays attractive. Take a bath (yes, apparently some women need to be reminded of this), do your hair etc. Now that you have a ring on you finger, it's not time to pile on the kilos. A stocking on your head when sleeping will probably be a bit much. If he is still attracted to what he has at home he won't stray.
At bridal showers, kitchen parties or whatever name they give them, the advice goes a bit further. My favourite of the past year is this gem from Tanzania. The person you could lose your husband to is the house girl. Never let her into your bedroom, you must always make the bed and clean the room yourself. If your husband comes home during the day and he finds her making the bed and he sleeps with her, who's fault is it? If you leave home while your husband is asleep, instruct him to just cover the bed with the duvet, bedcover etc and you'll make the bed when you get home in the evening. Okay, men help me out here, is it that a man sees a bed with a woman next to it and that equals let's 

Re: ugnet_: Myths women have about men

Rehema Mukooza wrote:
 
<>
 
Trust me! Am beating them at their own game. There is no turning back for me.  Power!
Anyomokolo
 
Rehema Mukooza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Anyomokolo:
 
Hahahaha, lolololol.  I have nothing more to say, you said it all.  
 
I have to give it up to you for saying it as it is, "They all have a penis! Most women don't know."  You've got that right!  Hahahaha, lolololololol, Ouchh!  That hurts!  
 
Play on sister, the game is on.  Just make sure you're ahead of the game.
 
Zakoomu R.Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

As women, unless you are me, wowen will always have myths about men becuase we are brainwashed by patriarchy childhood and raised with a limited knowledge of who men really are. 
 
We are raised to live our lives to care for men best interest but not our own interest and we never question it becuase it is a very dominant culture (patriarchy) that we are born in. Well, I questioned this dominant culture three years ago, and I am who I am today becuase the answers to my question made no sense to me. 
 
 We (women) are raised to be stupid so that we are vulnerable to men. It is the only single reason women are so easily deceived, used, abused repeatedly by men, one after the other. Unless of course in a culture where a woman is socially supressed like the Taliban. It is becuase we are stupid, not by nature, but becuase we are denied knowledge about men's psyche. That coupled with the fact our (woman) natural ability, which I often refer to as 'power' since I discovered it three years ago, to counteract men's natural behaviour is supressed by very serious patriarchal brainwashing from childhood,  certainly makes a woman very vulnerable and truly stupid. 
 
If all women knew what I know about men, women would have no myths about men becuase all men are the same: They all have a penis! Most women don't know. 
 
PowerOwor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 






10 myths women have about men 



By Susan Hayden 














 

As perceptive as women can be, they have yet to figure out the male psyche — an interesting and sometimes frightening place from which men forge their own unique approach to life. To gain a little perspective on man and his muse, we approached a variety of men with some of the more common female perceptions of them. Not surprisingly, we found out that a lot of those beliefs are, in fact, misperceptions, and the guys we spoke with were more than eager to clear them up. Though a highly subjectiv
  e
 survey, here are some of the more interesting truths revealed from the mouths of men: 1. Men are not interested in what women have to say "Men are interested in what women have to say," countered Chris, 27, "as long as it involves one of the following: Our favorite sport, our favorite activity or your naked body. For example, many men would find it extremely interesting if a woman said, 'A couple of years ago, I got so drunk that I showed up nude to a football game.'" 2. Men want somebody who is just like their mother "Men do want somebody who will love them like dear old Mom," admits Eric, 42. "But sometimes Mom also annoys us; we don't want you to be like that. So love, nurture and spoil like her — just don't be her." 3. Men only think about sex "Well, yeah," says Paul, 34. "Thinking about sex takes up a good portion of our brain power, but we don't spend all of our free time pondering when we'll make our next
  move."
 Paul also adds, "There are actually plenty of women who are more interested in sex than we are." 4. He's spoiling me, so he must have plenty of money "No, I don't," assures Brady, 49. "I'm going a little outside my comfort level to woo you, but plan to return gradually to my normal level as you fall, hopefully, madly in love with me." 5. If I sleep with him on the first date, he won't respect me "Not necessarily," suggests Juan, 21. "My impression of you is based more on how you treat me and how we connect than whether or not we're intimate on the first date." 6. I can change him "No, you can't," replies Jacques, 30. "Oh, you might get us to behave differently for a while. We might wear some newer shirts or clean up after ourselves for a few weeks, but I'm only doing it because I want to do — at least that is what I'm telling myself." 7. Men are interested in my dating history "I couldn't care less a
  bout
 your sexual history," says Thomas, 19. "I don't care if you've had one or 20 partners; just don't tell me about any of them." 8. Men don't like women who make the first move. "Sure we do," returns Romero, 39. "It's less work for us and shows us you have good taste." 9. Men prefer inexp

ugnet_: Myths women have about men

As women, unless you are me, wowen will always have myths about men becuase we are brainwashed by patriarchy childhood and raised with a limited knowledge of who men really are. 
 
We are raised to live our lives to care for men best interest but not our own interest and we never question it becuase it is a very dominant culture (patriarchy) that we are born in. Well, I questioned this dominant culture three years ago, and I am who I am today becuase the answers to my question made no sense to me. 
 
 We (women) are raised to be stupid so that we are vulnerable to men. It is the only single reason women are so easily deceived, used, abused repeatedly by men, one after the other. Unless of course in a culture where a woman is socially supressed like the Taliban. It is becuase we are stupid, not by nature, but becuase we are denied knowledge about men's psyche. That coupled with the fact our (woman) natural ability, which I often refer to as 'power' since I discovered it three years ago, to counteract men's natural behaviour is supressed by very serious patriarchal brainwashing from childhood,  certainly makes a woman very vulnerable and truly stupid. 
 
If all women knew what I know about men, women would have no myths about men becuase all men are the same: They all have a penis! Most women don't know. 
 
Power
 
 
 
 
 
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





10 myths women have about men 



By Susan Hayden 














 

As perceptive as women can be, they have yet to figure out the male psyche — an interesting and sometimes frightening place from which men forge their own unique approach to life. To gain a little perspective on man and his muse, we approached a variety of men with some of the more common female perceptions of them. Not surprisingly, we found out that a lot of those beliefs are, in fact, misperceptions, and the guys we spoke with were more than eager to clear them up. Though a highly subjectiv
  e
 survey, here are some of the more interesting truths revealed from the mouths of men: 1. Men are not interested in what women have to say "Men are interested in what women have to say," countered Chris, 27, "as long as it involves one of the following: Our favorite sport, our favorite activity or your naked body. For example, many men would find it extremely interesting if a woman said, 'A couple of years ago, I got so drunk that I showed up nude to a football game.'" 2. Men want somebody who is just like their mother "Men do want somebody who will love them like dear old Mom," admits Eric, 42. "But sometimes Mom also annoys us; we don't want you to be like that. So love, nurture and spoil like her — just don't be her." 3. Men only think about sex "Well, yeah," says Paul, 34. "Thinking about sex takes up a good portion of our brain power, but we don't spend all of our free time pondering when we'll make our next
  move."
 Paul also adds, "There are actually plenty of women who are more interested in sex than we are." 4. He's spoiling me, so he must have plenty of money "No, I don't," assures Brady, 49. "I'm going a little outside my comfort level to woo you, but plan to return gradually to my normal level as you fall, hopefully, madly in love with me." 5. If I sleep with him on the first date, he won't respect me "Not necessarily," suggests Juan, 21. "My impression of you is based more on how you treat me and how we connect than whether or not we're intimate on the first date." 6. I can change him "No, you can't," replies Jacques, 30. "Oh, you might get us to behave differently for a while. We might wear some newer shirts or clean up after ourselves for a few weeks, but I'm only doing it because I want to do — at least that is what I'm telling myself." 7. Men are interested in my dating history "I couldn't care less a
  bout
 your sexual history," says Thomas, 19. "I don't care if you've had one or 20 partners; just don't tell me about any of them." 8. Men don't like women who make the first move. "Sure we do," returns Romero, 39. "It's less work for us and shows us you have good taste." 9. Men prefer inexperienced women "That's one of the great myths," admits Chuck, 52. "In reality, we'd rather be with someone who knows what they're doing." 10. Men are strong "No," assures Michael, who just turned 40. "We're babies, especially when we've got a cold or you break our hearts. Got a little more insight into the minds of men? Use an quick search to find single guys near you. 

 


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ugnet_: This is too funny

Please read this. Look, English is not our first language but damn!!. This is too much. Even a hospital? 
 
_
 
Here are some signs that you won't find anywhere else in the 

world except in AFRICA  

 

In a restaurant in Zambia: 

"Open seven days a week and weekends." 

 

On the grounds of a private school in South Africa: 

"No trespassing without permission." 

 

On a window of a Nigerian shop: 

"Why go elsewhere to be cheated when you can come here?." 

 

On a poster in Ghana: 

"Are you an adult who cannot read? If so, we can help." 

 

In a hotel in Mozambique: 

"Visitors are expected to complain at the office between the 

hours of 9.00 am and 11.00am daily." 

 

On a river in the Democratic Republic of Congo: 

"Take note: When this sign is submerged, the river is 

impassable." 

 

In a Zimbabwean restaurant: 

"Customers who find our waitresses rude ought to see the 

manager." 

 

A sign seen on a hand dryer in a Lesotho public toilet: 

"Risk of electric shock-Do not activate with wet hands." 

 

In a Botswana jewellery shop: 

"Ears pierced while you wait." 

 

On one of the buildings of a Sierra Leone hospital: 

"Mental Health Prevention Centre." 

 

In a maternity ward of a clinic in Tanzania: 

"No children allowed!" 

 

In a cemetery in Uganda: 

"Persons are prohibited from picking flowers from any but 

their own graves. 

 

In a Malawi hotel: 

"It is forbidden to steal towels please. If you are not a 

person to do such a thing, please don't read this notice." 

 

A sign posted in an Algerian tourist camping park: 

"It is strictly forbidden on our camping site that people of 

different sex, for instance a man and woman, live together in 

one tent unless they are married to each other for that 

purpose." 

 

In a Namibian nightclub: 

"Ladies are not allowed to have children in the bar.">ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"  

 

 And the prize goes to... 

 

 

On the walls of a 'butshary' (a shack with a bloodshot, sweaty, short Kikuyu 

with an axe) in Kawangware, SW of Nairobi, Kenya. 

 

 

"We sell all meats...goat meat, sheep meat, fish meat, shicken meat, beef 

meat" 
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Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?

Gook Makanga wrote:
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So what? Did I disagree with you? Do I care? If this is what NRA/M has reduced them to, let them mount anything they choose. It is their prerogative. 
I guess while the NRA/M are busy civilizing IDP camps, the priest were also busy civilizing Baganda boys in Kisubi. If the priest did not do it then it has got to be in the baganda genes. Otherwise, I wait for someone to tell me why there are so many Baganda faggots in Kampala streets. We know that in IDP camps the NRA/M destroyed their culture.
What about Baganda? Genetics? This would be a good subject to write a book about homosexuality among Bagandans and why it is spreading fast among Baganda men, especially in Kampala. Now I hear that they have moved to the land of the free in the USA, Boston.
Anyomokolo
gook makanga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






Anyamokolo,
Please , what has this got to do with "Baganda"? Kisubi is a school where all nationals attend, At least the last time i checked that was the picture.(Could M7 have "fundamentally" changed even this?)
For your own edification "fargots" are found everywhere, they come in all colours, sex and sizes.
I was in Gulu recently and lady, the stories i heard there were saddening. It seems the people in the IDP camps mount anything that walks-(irrespective of sex. Now the people in those IDP camps are mainly from one race- very far away from the "Baganda fagots" in Kampala! Could this be the "civilizing effects of the NRA/M?
 Think about this next time before you decide to target one particular species of the human race.
Rgds

Gook 
 
"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X 
 
 

Original Message Follows From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:29:14 -0500 (EST) All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala. Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? ~ Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a
  Medical
 Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD). This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged. Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years? The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex. Here in Canada
  a whole
 monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!! Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth. Don't get me wrong. St. Mary’s College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too. I hope fellow Kisubi OB's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !! ~ Weddings at Ntare; starvation in Kisubi School Times By Simon Kasyate Jan 12 - 18, 2004 OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-le
 vel, I
 was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school ‘fence’ ended) and preps were optional. But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school. It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to ‘celebrity.’ But

Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?

All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. 
 
No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala.
 
Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?~Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD).This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged.Is that suprising if one considers the likes
  of the
 Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years?The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex.Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!!Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth.Don't get me wrong.St. Mary’s College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too.I hope fellow Kisubi OB
 's and
 fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !!~Weddings at Ntare; starvation in KisubiSchool Times By Simon KasyateJan 12 - 18, 2004OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-level, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school ‘fence’ ended) and preps were optional.But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school.It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to ‘celebrity.’But blind I was after noticing the social deficit this college suffered. I mean, moving out of school at SMACK as St. Mary’s College Kisubi is known, be it for a small drink, dance, dinner and whatever was so feared that the <
 BR>mere
 thought of it would plunge you into panic before one of the Brothers reads your mind.The situation here was near the opposite of what I had left at Ntare School.Mbarara town was more like part of Ntare school because, on a daily basis, whether during exams or not, there was always a beeline of students headed to and fro town.Chances of meeting a teaching or non-teaching staff was 100% but what the heck-never heard of anyone expelled for being in town in broad day light.For many of us, flocking club Vision Empire was part of the ‘prep menu’ every Friday. Saturday mornings found us nursing hangover in town with that badly needed plate of Katogo.Being a staunch catholic in love with Victorian hymns, Martyrs’ cathedral was the place to be by 10 o’clock Sunday morning.Going to these places without permission was illegal, but we made it so easy that occasionally we even attended town wedding receptions
  and
 other bashes. Come SMACK and lo!The well tended lawns punctuated with palm trees, tarmac and sparkling white buildings not withstanding, I could not believe that unless there was such a cause as burial of an immediate relative or acute health complications; there was no way out of the gate.Attempting to do so was just as sacrilegious as executing the act, and the penalty when ‘grabbed’ was nothing short of an expulsion embedded in a suspension.You would be suspended for two weeks or slightly more, with a command to return with your parent(s) or guardian only for them to be handed the expulsion/indefinite suspension letter. For me, threats of expulsion really worked.I could not imagine myself before the domestic lioness (read Mummy), brown envelope in hand containing the bizarre news of my expulsion, how?So throughout my two-year tenure at this college, I suppressed the animal instinct of free
  range
 roaming.As a 

Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men

 
Jonah, you are responsible for your own carelessness. Stop wondering how AIDS spread so fast and wrap a condom around it. 
 
Are you HIV positive? How did you get it? 
 
Anyomokolo
jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
and some people still wonder how AIDS spread so fast >From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men>Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:02:34 -0500 (EST)>>I would chose to date a married man over single/unmarried guy becuase a >single man would always want to control, dominate and own me. A married man >is already controlling his wife. I don't want any man to control my life >and freedom. Unlike these Makerere students, I have my own money and will >never trade my freedom with $$$. I can have a married man and another, a >regular one, on the side if I choose to. If the regular one begin to >control my freedom, I will chuck him immediately. The married one will >always be around while I loo
 k for
 another regular.>So, to conclude, for me, a married man is a complete package. I can get >what I want and maintain my freedom. I don't know about other women but my >freedom is very important.>>My freedom is very important. Very important. Actually it is the reason I >can't get married.>>Anyomokolo>>>>>Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>Why young women date married men>By Muhwezi G. Bonge>Jan 2 - 8, 2004>>>Most people including my self must be wondering why that cute lady that any >man would love to have as his own is comfortably engrossed in the arms of a >married man.>>Why she risks being found out by the wife of the man she is dating? It's >much more than you think so let's take time to reflect on what that married >man has that a bachelor doesn't.>Faridah Nabagereka acting a
 s
 Ashiraf Ssemwogerere's girlfriend in >Gawandagala, Bat Valley theatre (Photo by Willy Tamale).Some ladies confess >that usually married men can't admit that they are married but she later >finds out when she has already given too much to leave him. There is a lot >that ladies find in married men than you can imagine.>>>Most ladies confess that they date married because married men give them >security. Does this mean that youthful guys can't provide that security?>The argument here is that although she knows he is married, she can count >on him to be responsible and maintain her and his wife. When a woman is >dating a married man, she does not have to worry about cheating after all >the whole relationship is based on cheating. So she does it for fun.>>Usually a married man is mature and cares for her feelings more than the >youthful men. For example when a married man take
 s her
 out he does those >'small' things that really count like opening the door for her to sit, >pulling the chair for her and even calling her after the date to know if >she is feeling fine. More to that, women confess that married men are >sincere and gentle. So guys take heed, if you think by not giving your all >or by not showing your weaknesses, you are being a man. Wake up, you are >missing the point.>>Married men usually have that financial superiority which sometimes, >youthful men don't have and even if he is doing well financially, he can't >take care of all her needs.>>Cynthia a second year student at Makerere university admits that she is >currently dating a married man so that he takes care of her needs like >food, airtime, service fee, mention it, but still maintains her boyfriend >who completed last year and is working right now. Why is it that she >doesn'
 t ask
 such things from her boyfriend? She argues that she feels that >she is exploiting someone she loves and more to that, her boy friend has to >work for their future.>>Then why exploit the married man? She feels he is also exploiting her, so >it is a situation of mutual exploitation. Asked if her boyfriend finds out? >She says she plays her cards so well that even if she receives a call from >the 'big daddy' when she is with her boyfriend she has to divert the >conversation to become neutral so that her boyfriend can't suspect >anything.>>Married men treat them like little goddesses. For example a married man >will buy her airtime without expecting a call from her but just to please >her. She will use all the airtime without giving him a single call and once >it is finished she will go back for more.>>Married men and young ladies in relationships are out there to expl
 oit one
 >another. So is it ethical to do this? The debate remains open.>>>© 2003 The Monitor Publications>>

RE: ugnet_: Why young women date married men

Happy new year to you Kironde. Hope you enjoyed the new year and Christmas holiday.
 
I have been winding down my days on acholinet. I know I have said it before that I quit acholinet but this time I am out. I have posted a mega piece about my biography and since they know who I really am, acholinet is no longer fun. I use to enjoy writing when I was a mystery woman. But, on Dec12th, 2003, I decided to let them into my world off acholinet. As a result I can no longer enjoy acholinet the same way.
 
Anyomokolo
 
Ed Kironde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:









Sophia
Where have you been? Good to see you back and happy new year
 
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AnyomokoloSent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:03 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men
 

I would chose to date a married man over single/unmarried guy becuase a single man would always want to control, dominate and own me. A married man is already controlling his wife. I don't want any man to control my life and freedom. Unlike these Makerere students, I have my own money and will never trade my freedom with $$$. I can have a married man and another, a regular one, on the side if I choose to. If the regular one begin to control my freedom, I will chuck him immediately. The married one will always be around while I look for another regular. 

So, to conclude, for me, a married man is a complete package. I can get what I want and maintain my freedom. I don't know about other women but my freedom is very important.  

 

My freedom is very important. Very important. Actually it is the reason I can't get married. 

 

Anyomokolo

 

 

Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Why young women date married men By Muhwezi G. Bonge Jan 2 - 8, 2004




Most people including my self must be wondering why that cute lady that any man would love to have as his own is comfortably engrossed in the arms of a married man. 
Why she risks being found out by the wife of the man she is dating? It's much more than you think so let's take time to reflect on what that married man has that a bachelor doesn't.







Faridah Nabagereka acting as Ashiraf Ssemwogerere's girlfriend in Gawandagala, Bat Valley theatre (Photo by Willy Tamale).
Some ladies confess that usually married men can't admit that they are married but she later finds out when she has already given too much to leave him. There is a lot that ladies find in married men than you can imagine. 
Most ladies confess that they date married because married men give them security. Does this mean that youthful guys can't provide that security? The argument here is that although she knows he is married, she can count on him to be responsible and maintain her and his wife. When a woman is dating a married man, she does not have to worry about cheating after all the whole relationship is based on cheating. So she does it for fun. 
Usually a married man is mature and cares for her feelings more than the youthful men. For example when a married man takes her out he does those 'small' things that really count like opening the door for her to sit, pulling the chair for her and even calling her after the date to know if she is feeling fine. More to that, women confess that married men are sincere and gentle. So guys take heed, if you think by not giving your all or by not showing your weaknesses, you are being a man. Wake up, you are missing the point. 
Married men usually have that financial superiority which sometimes, youthful men don't have and even if he is doing well financially, he can't take care of all her needs. 
Cynthia a second year student at Makerere university admits that she is currently dating a married man so that he takes care of her needs like food, airtime, service fee, mention it, but still maintains her boyfriend who completed last year and is working right now. Why is it that she doesn't ask such things from her boyfriend? She argues that she feels that she is exploiting someone she loves and more to that, her boy friend has to work for their future. 
Then why exploit the married man? She feels he is also exploiting her, so it is a situation of mutual exploitation. Asked if her boyfriend finds out? She says she plays her cards so well that even if she receives a call from the 'big daddy' when she is with her boyfriend she has to divert the conversation to become neutral so that her boyfriend can't suspect anything. 
Married men treat them like little goddesses. For example a married man will buy her airtime without expecting a call from her but just to please her. She will use all the airtime without giving him a single call and once it is finished she will go back for more. 
Married men and young ladies in relationships are out there to exploit one another. So is it ethical to do this? The debate remains open.
 

Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men

I would chose to date a married man over single/unmarried guy becuase a single man would always want to control, dominate and own me. A married man is already controlling his wife. I don't want any man to control my life and freedom. Unlike these Makerere students, I have my own money and will never trade my freedom with $$$. I can have a married man and another, a regular one, on the side if I choose to. If the regular one begin to control my freedom, I will chuck him immediately. The married one will always be around while I look for another regular. 
So, to conclude, for me, a married man is a complete package. I can get what I want and maintain my freedom. I don't know about other women but my freedom is very important.  
 
My freedom is very important. Very important. Actually it is the reason I can't get married. 
 
Anyomokolo
 
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Why young women date married men By Muhwezi G. Bonge Jan 2 - 8, 2004




Most people including my self must be wondering why that cute lady that any man would love to have as his own is comfortably engrossed in the arms of a married man. 
Why she risks being found out by the wife of the man she is dating? It's much more than you think so let's take time to reflect on what that married man has that a bachelor doesn't.





Faridah Nabagereka acting as Ashiraf Ssemwogerere's girlfriend in Gawandagala, Bat Valley theatre (Photo by Willy Tamale).Some ladies confess that usually married men can't admit that they are married but she later finds out when she has already given too much to leave him. There is a lot that ladies find in married men than you can imagine. 

Most ladies confess that they date married because married men give them security. Does this mean that youthful guys can't provide that security? The argument here is that although she knows he is married, she can count on him to be responsible and maintain her and his wife. When a woman is dating a married man, she does not have to worry about cheating after all the whole relationship is based on cheating. So she does it for fun. 
Usually a married man is mature and cares for her feelings more than the youthful men. For example when a married man takes her out he does those 'small' things that really count like opening the door for her to sit, pulling the chair for her and even calling her after the date to know if she is feeling fine. More to that, women confess that married men are sincere and gentle. So guys take heed, if you think by not giving your all or by not showing your weaknesses, you are being a man. Wake up, you are missing the point. 
Married men usually have that financial superiority which sometimes, youthful men don't have and even if he is doing well financially, he can't take care of all her needs. 
Cynthia a second year student at Makerere university admits that she is currently dating a married man so that he takes care of her needs like food, airtime, service fee, mention it, but still maintains her boyfriend who completed last year and is working right now. Why is it that she doesn't ask such things from her boyfriend? She argues that she feels that she is exploiting someone she loves and more to that, her boy friend has to work for their future. 
Then why exploit the married man? She feels he is also exploiting her, so it is a situation of mutual exploitation. Asked if her boyfriend finds out? She says she plays her cards so well that even if she receives a call from the 'big daddy' when she is with her boyfriend she has to divert the conversation to become neutral so that her boyfriend can't suspect anything. 
Married men treat them like little goddesses. For example a married man will buy her airtime without expecting a call from her but just to please her. She will use all the airtime without giving him a single call and once it is finished she will go back for more. 
Married men and young ladies in relationships are out there to exploit one another. So is it ethical to do this? The debate remains open.
© 2003 The Monitor Publications


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ugnet_: Have you ever thought about this?

Like most Ugandans, I read a lot of news of the Internet. I read acholi people, the LRA, are doing this and that and what not to you. It is always the acholi people. News papers quoting citizens saying "I heard a acholi man saying this before he slattered my entire family and demanded my money. Oh the acholi have chop off your penises, raped and murdered your children and women.
Would you be surprised if what happened to Rwanda in 1994, happen to Uganda tomorrow? Sooner or later you will here on the radio that "If you a have a panga, please hack the nearest acholi next to you becuase they have been doing these horrible things to you. The arrow boys are already armed with weapons and their anger is mounting.
I really don't know where the fuck God is.
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Re: ugnet_: Panic in Khartoum:Foreigners Shake Hands,Make Penises Disappear

Owor Kipenji you, you, you. Why are always forwarding this message about sex, sexual organs, gender issues? HahahaLook who is talk yeah!?!
 
I like this one though. My American friends found it very funny. This is too funny. How could such rumors almost bring a whole nation to its knees? Is this how important men's penis is? Important enouhg for a man to believe that it could actually disappear by a hand shake. Wow!
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Panic in Khartoum: Foreigners Shake Hands, Make Penises Disappear 
Special Dispatch Series - No. 593 October 22, 2003 No.593 
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD59303
During September 2003, mass hysteria spread through Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, which was ultimately quelled by police intervention and statements made by the health minister. The panic was caused by rumors of foreigners roaming the city and shaking men's hands, making their penises disappear. The rumors were spread rapidly by text messages on cellular phones, and diverted the public's attention from a breakthrough in negotiations in Kenya between Sudanese Vice President Ali Othman and SPLA leader John Garang. [1] 
Several versions of the story circulated and not all involved foreigners: Initially, it was claimed that the perpetrators belonged to a Sudanese tribe; according to another version, one West African man was responsible; later, the one man was replaced in the rumor with a group of West Africans. 
Al-Quds Al-Arabi correspondent Kamal Hassan Bakhit, who was the first to report on the affair outside Sudan, wrote that "the source of the horror is a foreign citizen from a West African country who is roaming through the city marketplace and draining men's virility via a handshake" and that "people are refusing to shake hands with anyone they don't know." Bakhit reported that police had received numerous complaints about someone called 'Satan's Friend,' and that they had launched an investigation and arrested a foreigner who had in his possession scarves, books on sorcery, and two million Sudanese pounds (about $1,500). [2] The following are excerpts 
 from
 articles which discussed the issue: 
Victims Tell Their Stories 
Two of the "victims" agreed to tell their story to the London-based Arabic daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi. One of them, fabric merchant S. K. A., said that a man from a West African tribe came into his shop to buy fabric, but an argument quickly developed between the two. Then the West African shook the store owner's hand powerfully until the owner felt his penis melt into his body. The store owner became hysterical, and was taken to the hospital. [3] 
While the majority of accounts involved handshaking, another victim, who refused to give his name, said that while he was at the market, a man approached him, gave him a comb, and asked him to comb his hair. When he did so, within seconds, he said, he felt a strange sensation and discovered that he had lost his penis. It was also claimed that once "'Satan's Friend' drains a man's virility," he demands that his victim pay him over four million Sudanese pounds (about $3,000) to get it back. [4] 
Police Investigate, Government Steps In 
The Sudanese, unsure how to handle the affair, arrested 40 people who filed complaints along with some 50 other people on suspicion of sorcery and fraud. Many West Africans were brought into police stations for questioning, amid attempts by groups of people to assault them. The police were forced to devote a great deal of effort to dispersing rioters. 
The country's top politicians and health officials stepped in to try to calm things down. Attorney-General Salah Abu Zayed said that all complaints had been brought before a special investigative committee and that the first claimant would be tried for disturbing the peace since doctors had determined that he was perfectly healthy. [5] However, another report said that those who filed complaints were suffering from "neurosis" and "suggestion." [6] 
High-ranking policewoman Dr. Nour Al-Huda said: "We met with the suspects and discovered that they were in fact the victims. They were accused of something they knew nothing about... One of the accused had been informed by his wife that his daughter was suffering from sharp pains and that she was going to be operated on. He rushed to the hospital, but on the way stopped to ask a man where the operating room was – and was surprised to discover that this man was accusing him of being one of those who were causing impotence via handshakes. He found himself under suspicion at a time when he was hurrying to reach his daughter in the operating room… 
"In our opinion, what is at issue is not sorcery or magic. The many young men who complained were under the influence of suggestion. Since they were prepared [mentally] for this to happen, they honestly felt that they were ill." 
Prominent Sudanese psychiatrist Prof. Taha Ba'asher said that the phenomenon was similar to cases of women who ima

ugnet_: From Acholinet-Very Serious


I still read acholinet from a friend. I happen to see this today. I would like to know what other Ethnic groups in Uganda think about this. I personally think that acholis are too demoralized to do anything.
Lutimba Matuvo what do you think about this? You always say that it is Kony who is not interested in peace settlement. How do you defend this below?
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Lukaka,President Museveni have taken initiatives to "Make proper use of Acholiland" on the 4-11-2003, there will be debate in Uganda parliament totransfer "Bakiga Ethnic Group" to settle them in Acholi land. The Governmentof Uganda by Constitution owns the land in the country including the Land inAcholi.The "Bantu MP" are all positive and motion will definitely get a majorityand implementation will start. This information comes from the inner core inthe parliament of Uganda. Public debate will take place on the above date.
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Re: ugnet_: I quit Acholinet

You will actually read less of me 'coz I got something to do in this land of the free. 
Think about it! I, of all people, quit acholinet. What could be more important than acholinet? Really!
Take a guess.Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In Toronto we miss you, but wish you the best down there in "God's country, home of the free, land of the brave".You remember the lady MP from Mississauga who called it the land of barbarians?Mitayo Potosi>From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: I quit Acholinet>Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:18:46 -0400 (EDT)>>I just quit acholinet. A ten year old friend said it was the best thing I >have done in ten years. And then she asked about Ugandanet.>Hey, I am still here.>Anyomokolo>>>>->Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals_Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE
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Re: ugnet_: Preference for boy-child universal?-Charles Onyango-Obbo(What others Say)

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 The subject should read Male preference for boy-child universal.
 
Owor Kipenji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Comment  Thursday, October 16, 2003  

CHARLES ONYANGO-OBBO / WHAT OTHERS SAY 

Preference for boy-child universal?The West despises the pro-boy favouritism of African and other Third World cultures. Are they any different? Two researchers, Enrico Moreti of the University of California at Los Angeles, and Gordon Dahl of the University of Rochester, New York, decided to investigate. 
The results of their study, which examined American census data from 1994 to 2000, shocked them too. The economists found that men are less likely to seek divorce if there is a boy in the family, and more likely to marry a pregnant mother if they know she is giving birth to a male baby, The Sunday Times reports.  
Parents who have just one girl are 44 per cent more likely to divorce than those with one boy; those with three girls are 86 per cent more likely to split up than those with three boys. 
Dahl likens it to a "Henry VIII" syndrome. The Tudor king divorced his first wife and had his second executed after they bore him daughters. The third finally produced a son and heir. She survived. 
The Guardian dwelt on a different syndrome. This is the time that develops when the children grow up, go off to university; or graduate and start their own lives, and you are left with a huge empty quiet house Ð just you and your husband (or alone).  
The feeling of emptiness sometimes results in depression, requiring treatment by a psychologist.  
Some of the research reported last week also had serious scientific inquiry confirming some common-sense notions. A study out of the UK found that a parent who takes an active interest in a child’s education is eight times more important in securing good exam results than wealth or social class. 
Children whose parents are involved in their schooling do up to 25 per cent better than children with families who are not involved.  
Those who don’t take that lesson to heart do so at their own peril. The mother of a 15-year-old boy in Northampton was jailed for repeatedly failing to prevent her son from dodging school. Under Britain’s 1996 Education Act, a parent who fails to work with school authorities to deal with their truant child commits an offence. 
In addition, the government has now published plans to give headteachers, police, and council officials the right to impose on-the-spot fines of up to Sh13,000 on the parents of persistent absentees! 
Reading about the flood of research in the US, one wonders why the government doesn’t hire investigators who can save it embarrassment. Early this month, a CIA-led Iraq Survey Group went combing Iraq in another frantic effort to find weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein was accused of having stockpiled, leading to the American invasion. 
The Survey Group didn’t find the weapons. However they stumbled on some biological laboratory equipment that they said could be used to build the destructive weapons.  
American incompetence can sometimes be mind-boggling. Immediately after that report, a Congressional office said it had found that the Pentagon had all the time been selling such surplus biological lab equipment for give-away prices on the Internet without doing background checks on the buyers! 
Someone ought to go to jail for things like those, a prospect that would not scare some criminals in South Africa.  
This country, if you didn’t know, has two of the biggest private jails in the world. The new Mangaung Maximum Security Prison in Bloemfontein, and Katuma Sinthumule Maximum Security Prison were built by private British and American consortiums.  
Unlike other prisons where there are 40 prisoners in a cell, at these private jails, they are only four. The prisoners get extensive rehabilitation and vocational training. 
So what crime do you have to commit to serve your term in relative luxury? Well, you need to be convicted for something serious like murder, rape, violent robbery and so forth.  
The private firms have been contracted by South Africa’s Department of Correctional Services to run the prisons for 25 years. Though the prisons were completed on time and on budget, there is a whiff of scandal blowing around them. A number of government officials who drew up the contracts left soon afterwards to take up lucrative posts in the prison companies, provoking allegations that they got "kitu kidogo".  
This item had escaped my eye, and I report it not just for its tribal value (after all The Independent saw it fit to publish it on page one).  
Black artists filled all top 10 spots in the first week of October’s American Billboard's singles chart. Nine of the 10 were rappers, while the number one was Baby Boy, a joint track from the R&B singer Beyonce and the reggae star Sean Paul.  
The lock on the charts was taken as proof of the popularity of rap among teenagers, both white and black. It was the

ugnet_: I quit Acholinet

I just quit acholinet. A ten year old friend said it was the best thing I have done in ten years. And then she asked about Ugandanet. 
Hey, I am still here.
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Re: ugnet_: DRC PARTIES IN PEACE DEAL


Mulindwa, you belong to nine discussion groups? Wow!

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>Itayi Musengeyi 
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>SUN CITY, South Africa. 
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>WARRING parties in the Democratic Republic of Congo yesterday signed an all-inclusive agreement to end four years of war at a ceremony witnessed here by several African leaders, including President Mugabe 
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>Zimbabwe, along with Angola and Namibia, helped restore peace in the DRC by sending troops which helped the vast Central African country repel a Rwandan and Ugandan-backed invasion. 
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>The political settlement will see the reorganisation of the army to include rebels, an interim constitution and a 14-member committee to oversee the peace process. 
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>Under the agreement - born out of the year-long Inter-Congolese Dialogue - President Joseph Kabila will be installed as president of a transitional government with four deputy presidents drawn from the government, the two major rebel groups - the Rally for Congolese Democracy (RCD) and the Movement for the Liberation of the Congo (MLC) - and unarmed opposition parties. 
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>The interim constitution allows for a broad-based government of national unity to rule the mineral-rich Congo for two-and-a-half years until democratic elections, the first in more than 40 years, are held. 
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>A transitional parliament will also be established under the settlement. 
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>The president of the senate will be drawn from civil society while the speaker of the national assembly will come from the MLC. 
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>Ministries will be divided up and former rebel fighters will be integrated into the army and police force. 
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>Speakers at the ceremony hailed the agreement and urged DRC parties to respect the pact. 
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>"This is truly a red-letter day in the history of our continent. It is a day of hope and celebration, not only for the people of the DRC but also for the peoples of Africa as a whole," said South African President Thabo Mbeki. 
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>But he warned the parties: "You know better than I do that the implementation of historic agreements you have entered into will not be easy. 
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>"Your problems will originate both from within the Congo and from elsewhere, outside your borders. To overcome them will require a single-minded commitment to serve." 
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>The facilitator of the dialogue former Botswana president Sir Ketumile said: "The signing of these agreements is not only a victory for the Congo and its people but also a unique and invaluable step towards sustainable peace, stability and co-operation in the Great Lakes region. However fighting in East DRC threatens the agreement." 
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>Besides Cde Mugabe, the signing of the pact in the luxury casino resort of Sun City in northwestern South Africa was also witnessed by Botswana President Mr Festus Mogae, Namibian President Mr Sam Nujoma and the President of Zambia Mr Levy Mwanawasa. 
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>The 31-year-old President Kabila, who assumed power after the assassination of his father Laurent in January 2001, did not attend the ceremony. 
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>Kikaya bin Karubi, his information minister, told reporters: "He has the mammoth task of running the country and preparing for our return to Kinshasa. This a plenary of delegates to the Inter-Congolese Dialogue and the president was never a delegate to the ICD. 
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>"We see this as a great and happy occasion for the DRC. No more war. No more rebellion. We can go back from here to participate in the political process." 
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>First to sign the document was Leonard She Okitundu, President Kabila's foreign minister, who said: "This is a great day for the DRC. We can say 'mission accomplished'." 
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>He was followed by rebel RCD leader Adolphe Onusumba and Olivier Kamitatu, who signed on behalf of MLC leader Jean-Pierre Bemba, who did not attend, aides said because he was suffering from lumbago. 
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>The final text urges the international community to keep its interest in the former Zaire, and support it. 
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>The 362 delegates, representing the government, rebels, militias and opposition politicians and civil society, adopted a new constitution by acclamation on Tuesday, along with the global and inclusive agreement on the transition and a memorandum on military and security matters. 
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>According to AFP, Kabila is due to promulgate the constitution on April 6, thus ushering in the transition. 
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>But a military agreement reached in Pretoria by the chiefs of staff of the belligerents last Saturday, remained on the table with only the RCD having signed. 
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>UN special envoy Moustapha Niasse, who facilitated the talks, said it would have to be resolved without the help of the mediation team. 
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>"The Congolese people have to start doing something for t

Re: ugnet_: Departure From Uganda


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Anyamoko,
Where is this brave young man? Was he killed by "Kony"(Read NRA)?
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 “We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of bad people but also for the appalling silence of good people". M.L.King

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ugnet_: Departure From Uganda


OPOKA JAMESSATURDAY, 29 DEPATURE FROM UGANDA.Fellow Ugandans.As you may be aware, Dr. Col. Kizza Besigye (Rtd.), and several members ofhis former task force, myself included, are currently living outsideUganda. I have been following the events unfolding back home with interest.I must confess that I am touched and encouraged by your anticipation, andhow you have reacted to the situation in the country, sometimes eagerlyawaiting our communiqué. Allow me to start off by informing you I am stillcommitted to working for democratic reforms in the country and I am moredetermined than ever. I also know that comrades and wellmeaning people inUganda and worldwide are tirelessly putting together the necessaryinfrastructure (and apparatus) to place Uganda back in the family of fullyfunctional practising democratic nations.I would like to set the record straight as to why I left Uganda. Over thepast 15 years, I have witnessed our beloved country, Uganda, traumatised bythe relentless effort of the forces of doom. The Uganda I love has beensystematically plundered and pillaged by these evil forces. My decision toleave Uganda was based on the realisation that our tormentors had erodedthe foundation for civilisation - that is the respect for human rights. Thenew millennium theme, for Democratic nations, is to champion humanity.Uganda’s current administration, on the other hand, prides itself in thedestruction of humanity. By the time I left Uganda, it was evident that thecitizens are living under siege. From the statesponsored decade and a halfof tyranny in the north, my homeland,to the bombings in Kampala suburbs,Kasese raids in the presence of UPDF troops, not forgetting the shamelections we went through. Fellow Ugandans, you must realise that Peace andFreedom are universally fundamental rights worth sacrificing for. Thissacrifice must be met by anyone who counts him or herself worth
y. Worthy ofa God given right.The stakes are high. As you can tell from the reaction of the Museveniadministration, the die has been cast. Having been humiliated on all awaymissions, Museveni is now turning the guns on his own people. Deployment inwestern Uganda (a former strong hold for Museveni) is an indication thatMuseveni’s friends are thin on the ground. Ugandans have realised that the“emperor is not wearing any clothes.BACKGROUNDSince Museveni came to power, my homeland in the north has beenconsistently a battlefield. At the end of the 1986/87 wars, there was atime when the situation had taken a turn for the better. I recall back in1986/87, when NRA’s 15th Battalion was in Gulu. Under the leadership of Lt.Col Samson Mande and later joined by Lt. Col. Fred Mugisha (RIP) when Guluhad fallen, a good relationship, between the NRA’s 15th Battalion, thelocal population and the UNLA forces was established. Several UNLA troopssurrendered, some were integrated into the 15th Battalion of the NRA. Thiswas an unprecedented act of professionalism, loyalty to the cause and asense of responsibility to the local population, on behalf of the NRAforces. This also was a challenge to the evil forces within the NRM highcommand. The 15th Battalion was removed. This was done to deliberatelysabotage a good working relationship between the 15th Battalion and thelocal population. At this point, Museveni’s extermination policy wasunleashed on the people in Gulu.One Major General David Tinyefuza, who had been removed from active dutyfor indiscipline, was appointed as the northern brigade commander. Onarrival, Tinyefuza made his objectives clear:* Former soldiers of the UNLA were enemies.* Insisting that the UNLA forces had killed people in Luweero and lootedproperty, they weren’t to be handled with kid gloves. Tinyefuza impliedthat the UNLA troops did not deserve to be treated as POW’s.* Tinyefuz
a instructed NRA Soldiers to raid, loot and pillage villages inand around Gulu. His reason for this inexcusable act was that the propertyhad been stolen from Luweero. In due process, many lives were lost. Hecontinuously justified this act because he was one of the mainbeneficiaries of the loot.* The raids were executed using a search and cordon operation againstcivilians who were nonviolent and former UNLA officers who were nowreporting to the NRA voluntarily.* The ex UNLA soldiers were rounded up, mentally and physically tortured,tied up “kandoya” style, which involves tightly tying a victims arms behindthe back and leaving the victim to die of breathing problems.The atrocities were carried out for months. This destroyed the relationshipbetween the NRA and the population. From then on, the line was drawn in thesand. Ugandan citizens in the north had to take security matters in theirown hands. It was war, thus conflict and rebellion began. Rather thanrectifying the situation, Museveni and his military monsters intensifiedthe unprovoked attacks on wana inchi and their property, under the guise ofstamping out the rebellion. Innocent civilians lost their lives, fo

ugnet_: Zeru Knows Privacy?

These days the word 'privacy' has been cripping in Zery Hymens vocabulary in a big way. Trust me, I have never met a man so stupid. Sometimes he behaves or writes as if his malaya wife fed him some rotten shit for breakfast.
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