Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread soundcheck

Triode wrote: 
 Thanks - will look at this; I was definately going to change it, perhaps
 we make it an option when the uname includes PREEMPT in it?
 
 Could you also try with:
 
 #include sys/mman.h
 
 if (mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) == -1) {
   LOG_INFO(unable to lock memory: %s, strerror(errno));
 }
 
 Edited:
 
 This will only work as root or if the user is allowed to lock memory. 
 I'm interested if you see any benefit from doing this.  
 
 Given there are mutexs between the real time thread and non real time
 threads, I think the easiest way to lock memory is just to lock all of
 squeezelite's memory.  I did thinking about only doing this for the
 output thread, but this would need to wait for a page fault in the other
 threads if they held the output mutex.  Hence I think locking everything
 is the only simple way to lock memory - but do you notice any
 difference?

Yep. I had a similar thought. You probably can't just lift the output
thread up only. The entire chain ( internal threads and externel
tasklets/IRQs etc ) needs to be in tune. Otherwise it gets bumpy (maybe
a reason for the rather high buffer settings I experience).

I actually chrt'ed squeezelite. Setting  chrt to 40 from the outside
would obviously put all threads on the same level with 09b11. That also
lifts the stream thread. Now with my patch  in place I can allign the
stream.c and output.c threads to the same and also other then default
levels.  
Maybe chrt'ing  the stock 09b11 to higher levels is similar then not
applying anything (on preemtible kernels) to it. The whole thing gets
out of balance. 

Another idea: Perhaps on preemtible kernels SCHED_FIFO shouldn't be
automatically applied by SL. Maybe it's better to apply only, if option
-p prio is given.

What threads would have to be boosted?? I'd guess only the misson
critical threads - those who line up as playback chain -  need to
(should ??) be boosted or  tuned. 
stream and output and if codec are involved the codecs in between?? I
don't have a clear picture of the entire chain. I guess it's not that
easy to trace.


I'll checkout the memlock patch. 
The memlock can be used by normal users, if it is set  in limits.conf -
see some posts earlier.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

sbp wrote: 
 Castella: After having looked around I think you are right - so it might
 work as microcore has a A10 arm V7 port.
 But as I don't have the board I can't promise anything

Thanks for the info.  I've got a Cubie on order, so maybe I can try it
out later.  

(One of the big problems with the Cubie community is that it's so
fragmented - there are few compiled images available, and info is
difficult to find- unlike here, and the Rspi forum!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread soundcheck

Triode.

Small patch update.

Now sched_fifo gets applied to output thread only, if -p xxis given. 

Cheers


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread OGS

I've tested squeezelite on a couple of laptops booting the latest
live-cd from voyage-mpd. Works perfectly. Sound card is a Stello U3
USB-S/PDIF concerter (XMOS). I started to wonder which Linux distro and
hardware I should get to set up a permanent solution. An alix board with
the Voyage distro seemed to be a good candidate. Then I remebered that
the Touch is a Linux box and at the same time I noticed posts from
Triode and soundcheck talking about running squeezelite  on the Touch. I
tested this successfully with the Stello last night (Touch with v7.8 and
EDO). I had to set buffer time high to avoid clicks and skips (-a
5:4::0). 5:4 is probably more than needed but I could play
24/192 material with no problem and did not test further. I did set the
mmap off, but I am not sure this is the right setting. Also squeezelite
-l does not print the list of devices on the Touch. aplay -l does so I
used that info.
Triode: would you mind posting parameters that you believe should work
for Touch and current version of squeezelite?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Stoker

Gerrelt wrote: 
 
 I recently also bought a Berhinger UCA 202 USB soundcard which also
 works with squeezelite, and provides very good quality sound.
 

Hi Gerrelt

Quick question are you using the 202 with a Rasberry PI? And another! Is
the audio free from and pops or interruptins with this card?

Cheers
--Ian



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread Stoker

sbp wrote: 
 
 Unfortunately I don't know how many actually are using it, but on the
 other hand there hasn't been any reports that it is not working, so I
 take it as a good sign :-)
 

Hi Sbp

Not using it yet, but will be going down this root as soon as my USB DAC
arrives. I was thinking (hoping) to use a usb wifi adapter as well as
usb DAC. Should I be able to get this all working by just following the
posts in this thread? You mention a new verion of piCoPlayer is it worth
waiting for that?

Cheers
--Ian



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Julf

OGS wrote: 
 Then I remebered that the Touch is a Linux box and at the same time I
 noticed posts from Triode and soundcheck talking about running
 squeezelite  on the Touch. I tested this successfully with the Stello
 last night (Touch with v7.8 and EDO).

Interesting - but why would you want to do it?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

Triode wrote: 
 Both logs still show the same thing to me?

As soon as I get home I will try again and I will send you the two new
logs...maybe something went wrong with my attachments, not sure to be
honest.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

Triode wrote: 
 96/24 flac works for me on a pi.  I'd like to see the two logs side by
 side with differences in them before commenting further..  The logs that
 are posted suggest another process is running on the same mac address as
 they repeat diconnecting and reconnecting to the server.
 
 Edit: Its also possible the machine is running out of memory - it would
 be useful to see the output of top.

I will also check the output of top to see if my raspberry is running
out menory while playing these 24 bit FLAC...good point!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

paul- wrote: 
 I have everything running well on my Model B Pi's, but I have them
 running with 496MB, as I don't use the graphics.   I'm using both the
 Berringer and the PCM2704 USB DAC's.   I've only tested up to 16bit Flac
 files.   But, I'll see if I can find some 24bit flac files and do some
 testing.

Hi Paul,
That would be great. Please let me know if the test goes well with your
24 bit FLAC. Just out of curiosity, as I don't use graphics either how
can I get my raspberry PI run with 512 MB? Did I get it right?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

Stoker wrote: 
 Hi Sbp
 
 Not using it yet, but will be going down this root as soon as my USB DAC
 arrives. I was thinking (hoping) to use a usb wifi adapter as well as
 usb DAC. Should I be able to get this all working by just following the
 posts in this thread? You mention a new verion of piCoPlayer is it worth
 waiting for that?
 
 Cheers
 --Ian

Hi Ian.

The USB DAC is working fine with the present version. 

Regarding the WiFi it will be much better with the new version, but if
you aren't afraid to change some lines you might be able to get it to
work following this advice:


In the microcore forum Gerrelt wrote
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,14491.0.html :
 I also added this line to bootlocal.sh to make it connect at startup:

/usr/local/bin/wifi.sh -a 21  /tmp/wifi.log

But that didn't work at first. I had to add the line again (so two of
the same lines) to get it working.

I allready noticed when executing wifi.sh by hand it only worked the
second time.

It feels like the first time it activates the wifi dongle, and the
second time it's allready activated.
Any thoughts on that?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread OGS

Julf wrote: 
 Interesting - but why would you want to do it?

Good question... squeezelite delivers very good sound quality on the
laptops I've tried it on. I wanted to check if squeezelite also improves
sound from Touch. It does.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread lrossouw

Might be a stupid question what does the -z option do? I guess it's only
available on linux.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 Thanks for the info.  I've got a Cubie on order, so maybe I can try it
 out later.  
 
 (One of the big problems with the Cubie community is that it's so
 fragmented - there are few compiled images available, and info is
 difficult to find- unlike here, and the Rspi forum!
I've got a cubieboard but haven't played around with it much.  However
the community is small becasue there have been only about 1600 boards
made so far and many of the buyers seem to be very inexperienced.

The http://linux-sunxi.org site has lots of info based on Allwinner A10
and similar chips. It list many linux distro but not microcore.  System
built using A10 SOC are quite similar as A10 has wide range of
interfaces so that builds for one A10 product (e.g. Melee A1000) often
works on another cubieboard. A10 is unbrickable so there is no fear in
trying out builds for different systems.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Julf

OGS wrote: 
 Good question... squeezelite delivers very good sound quality on the
 laptops I've tried it on. I wanted to check if squeezelite also improves
 sound from Touch. It does.

How did you verify that the sound really improved? Measurements? ABX?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread soundcheck

lrossouw wrote: 
 Might be a stupid question what does the -z option do? I guess it's only
 available on linux.

It daemonizes the application.

Usually that means putting an application into background + disconnect
it from the shell from which it's been started. Pretty much like a
systemservice under Windows.
Messages to screen should be turned off and optional routed to a file
(that's done by the app).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread soundcheck

Those, who run Ubuntu might want to try the Ubuntu low-latency kernel.

Install:

sudo apt-get install linux-lowlatency



This kernel might not work well for your desktop experience, but can
speed things up in the background on audio only machines.
It's a step below realtimekernel machines, like SB Touch.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 I've got a cubieboard but haven't played around with it much.  However
 the community is small becasue there have been only about 1600 boards
 made so far (compared to RaspPi's at least 0.5m) and many of the buyers
 seem to be very inexperienced.
 
 The http://linux-sunxi.org site has lots of info based on Allwinner A10
 and similar chips. It list many linux distro but not microcore.  System
 built using A10 SOC are quite similar as A10 has wide range of
 interfaces so that builds for one A10 product (e.g. Melee A1000) often
 works on another cubieboard. A10 is unbrickable so there is no fear in
 trying out builds for different systems.

That's really useful information - I'm afraid I'm one of those
inexperienced buyers!  But, I'm willing to learn!  A major problem is
the google forum used by Cubieboard people - hopelessly disorganised and
full of cluttered postings.  There's another forum (
http://www.cubieforums.com/ ) where it might be possible to get a more
coherent thread running.  I think I'll start with a project thread, and
see if anyone bites!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread OGS

Julf wrote: 
 How did you verify that the sound really improved? Measurements? ABX?

You may want to check that in your own system if you own a Touch.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 A major problem is the google forum used by Cubieboard people -
 hopelessly disorganised and full of cluttered postings. 

Yep there was a whole discussion on that.  The other forum is run by a
cubie user and there is a worry about a split in community.
I think Tom Cubie has been a bit overwhelmed by the demand so far as a
few promised revs have not happened as planned and so 
official feedback on hardware has been limited.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread soundcheck

FYI

klaus@a:~$ ps -Leo uid,cls,pid,rtprio,wchan,cmd  | grep squeeze |
grep -v grep
1000  TS  3195  - poll_s /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -m 00 -o
plughw:0,0 -n sl1 -p 51
1000  FF  3195 51 poll_s /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -m 00 -o
plughw:0,0 -n sl1 -p 51
1000  FF  3195 52 hrtime /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -m 00 -o
plughw:0,0 -n sl1 -p 51
1000  TS  3195  - hrtime /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -m 00 -o
plughw:0,0 -n sl1 -p 51

Above, you can see the result of my patch4, an Ubuntu stock low-latency
kernel and my limits.conf setup listed earlier.

1000 is my user-id (root would show 0) who is running squeezelite at
higher prios.  Two FF threads (output/stream) show SCHED_FIFO
scheduling. The threads output and stream run at rt-prio 51/52.

Cheers



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Julf

OGS wrote: 
 You may want to check that in your own system if you own a Touch.

Don't need to. Both my ears and all the measurements I have seen tell me
that the standard Touch is so good that it is extremely unlikely that
there would be any audible improvements.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 Yep there was a whole discussion on that.  The other forum is run by a
 cubie user and there is a worry about a split in community.
 I think Tom Cubie has been a bit overwhelmed by the demand so far as a
 few promised revs have not happened as planned and so 
 official feedback on hardware has been limited.

I saw that, but why struggle on with a very unwieldy system which can
only put people off - you have to wade through loads of posts in order
to find a relevant nugget of information.  There's another bunch of
Cubie posts on Google+ which seem unrelated to the original google - I
found somebody there who has developed a headless Debian image which I
hope to try.

Anyway, I'm OT here, so maybe see you over there sometime (with a
contribution the Cubie project :)  ???

Apologies to sbp  Gerrelt - great work, by the way!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

castalla wrote: 
 
 
 It's not that OT because once there is a microcore port to A10 then lots
 of readily available (some nicely packaged similar to AppleTV)  A10
 boxes become possible players.
 
 With Linaro I'm trying to check out the USB ehci implementation to see
 if cubieboard has a good/bad (based on Triode's experience) USB
 implementation and so decide if it is worth doing more work.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

bpa wrote: 
 It's not that OT because once there is a microcore port to A10 then lots
 of readily available (some nicely packaged similar to AppleTV)  A10
 boxes become possible players.
 
 With Linaro I'm trying to check out the USB ehci implementation to see
 if cubieboard has a good/bad (based on Triode's experience) USB
 implementation and so decide if it is worth doing more work.

OT again - is it possible to run Linaro headless with ssh access?  I
really need a headless setup as the hdmi tv is miles away from my router
 SWMBO won't tolerate cables strewn all over the room!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread paul-

albertone74 wrote: 
 Hi Paul,
 That would be great. Please let me know if the test goes well with your
 24 bit FLAC. Just out of curiosity, as I don't use graphics either how
 can I get my raspberry PI run with 512 MB? Did I get it right?

The version of the Pi Firmware/Kernel that ships with the Raspbian
Wheezy image (Dec 2012 version) is supposed to work, but I had problems.
Upgrading to the latest Firmware  kernel fixed it.   Firmware release
Dec30, 2012

You need to edit the file /boot/config.txt

gpu_mem_512=16   will allocate as little as possible to the GPU.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

bpa wrote: 
 It's not that OT because once there is a microcore port to A10 then lots
 of readily available (some nicely packaged similar to AppleTV)  A10
 boxes become possible players.
 
 With Linaro I'm trying to check out the USB ehci implementation to see
 if cubieboard has a good/bad (based on Triode's experience) USB
 implementation and so decide if it is worth doing more work.

bpa  - There is already a microcore port to A10, so if you have a
cubieboard I think you should try if you can get it running. If you get
microcore running on your board, I can help you with the integration of
the squeezelite player.

You can find it here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/ports.html
and the very friendly forum can be found here:
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

albertone74 wrote: 
 I will also check the output of top to see if my raspberry is running
 out menory while playing these 24 bit FLAC...good point!

Triode,
You were absolutely right. It was only a coincidence with -b 256:256
option. I have just tried to play my 24 bit FLAC and they are now
playing but with the usual clicking and buzzing though:( I really don't
know! 
Also find attached the TOP output...Am I right in saying that there are
2 instances of Squeezelite running at the same time?


+---+
|Filename: TOP.txt  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14374|
+---+


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

paul- wrote: 
 The version of the Pi Firmware/Kernel that ships with the Raspbian
 Wheezy image (Dec 2012 version) is supposed to work, but I had problems.
 Upgrading to the latest Firmware  kernel fixed it.   Firmware release
 Dec30, 2012
 
 You need to edit the file /boot/config.txt
 
 gpu_mem_512=16   will allocate as little as possible to the GPU.

Thanks Paul. Can I edit the same file even if I am running Squeezeplug?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

sbp wrote: 
 bpa  - There is already a microcore port to A10, so if you have a
 cubieboard I think you should try if you can get it running. If you get
 microcore running on your board, I can help you with the integration of
 the squeezelite player.
 
 You can find it here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/ports.html
 and the very friendly forum can be found here:
 http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/board,56.0.html

I looked at those refs. yesterday - but at the moment I'm just
intimidated by the complexity, and without an actual Cubie I'm just
stabbing in the dark.  So, I'm there in spirit ... hope it materialises!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

castalla wrote: 
 I looked at those refs. yesterday - but at the moment I'm just
 intimidated by the complexity, and without an actual Cubie I'm just
 stabbing in the dark.  So, I'm there in spirit ... hope it materialises!

castalla: All you have to do is to download this image
http://tinycorelinux.net/4.x/armv7/a10Core.img.gz  and then burn it to a
SD-card using Win32Diskimager. 

Then put the card in your cubieboard and connect a LAN cable and power.
If you are lucky it will boot to CLI - and from there it is not
difficult to install squeezelite.

The problem is that I don't now for sure that it will boot on your
cubieboard, but the only way to find out is to try.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

soundcheck wrote: 
 Triode.
 
 Now SCHED_FIFO gets applied only, if -p xxis given.  Otherwise it's 
 default SCHED_OTHER 
 
 Patch 4 applies it to output.c AND stream.c . stream thread comes with
 output rt_prio += 1  ( Note: I didn't check if rt_prio_max=99 gets
 exceeded!). I also added the memlock.
 
 Patch 4 works pretty well with -c pcm. 
 
 TODO: If codecs get into play, perhaps the codec thread needs to be
 placed in between stream and output.
 Perhaps it's an idea to introduce -p
 stream-prio:codec-prio:output-prio to keep all the key threads
 most flexible and tunable.
 
 Cheers

Let me add the ability to set the output thread priority, but I don't
think we want to change the other thread priorites - definately not to
set the stream thread to a higher priority

The aim of this is to make the output thread run as soon as it can after
the alsa wait routine returns.  This occurs after an interrupt from the
hardware and will enable us to work with smallest alsa buffers.  Its
valuable to have sched FIFO on all linux kernels as this means the
output thread will preempt all normal activity.  We also want it to
preempt the other threads within squeezelite.  There's a 10s buffer
between the output thread and the the other threads, hence we can afford
for there to be jitter on when these run as long as the output thread
runs at highest priority.

Complexity comes from the fact that there's shared memory with the other
threads.  There's 3 muxtexes to stop multiple threads overwriting each
other's data and these have priority inherit set so that if a lower
priority thread holds a mutex and the output thread is able to run, the
lower priority thread gets its priority boosted to ensure it runs so
that the output thread can run.  I want to audit the mutex calls again
to check I've minimised the other threads holding lock which could
impact the output thread, but I think it favors the output process as
much as possible at present.

The stream and decode thread will only run when there is data from the
tcp socket to decode - hence the stream thread blocks on network
activity.  There's not really much value in priorising this thread above
other threads as long as it will run often enough to enable decoding to
fill the 10 second buffer. Hence I want to keep this thread and the
decode thread at normal priority (and they definately need to be lower
priority that the output thread as we don't want the output thread to
stop so that input data from the tcp socket can be processed or
decoded.)

So can you hear a difference altering priorities (this subject
should be moved to the audiophile forums...).  As I discussed with EDO -
the primary purpose is to minimse/avoid underruns.  I believe this is
what we get with the stock configuration which will work with default
buffers on touch.  With the output device driver and then the output
thread haveing highest priority you get the likelihood of metronomic
waking of these threads to run for a short time and then sleeping until
the output device can consume more.  This provides the best real time
performance but we can speculat it may cause auidible impact of the
metronomic process wakeups.  By changing priorities, especially making
other more random events get priority over these tasks we probably add
randomness to when the output process runs. This will make buffering
more marginal and more likely to need to increase buffer size to avoid
underruns.  This may result in audible improvements, but I supect this
is very hardware specific and so I don't want to make this part of the
base code as we need it to be general to all hardware... (you are
clearly free to experiment).  I did add a randomiser function in the
later versions of EDO as an experiment with the impact of randomising
cpu activity in the output thread, but it met with significant
disaproval from some so I gave up on that..  

Bottom line - I will keep the priories in the base code simple with the
output thread being tunable.  I think with this and buffer tuning
there's a reasonable space for tweeking - I can't be sure that any other
priorisation tweeks will be benefical across a range of hardware and so
I would like to avoid this in the main code base.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

albertone74 wrote: 
 Triode,
 You were absolutely right. It was only a coincidence with -b 256:256
 option. I have just tried to play my 24 bit FLAC and they are now
 playing but with the usual clicking and buzzing though:( I really don't
 know! 
 Also find attached the TOP output and the Log. Am I right in saying that
 there are 2 instances of Squeezelite running at the same time?
 The Raspberry PI MAC address is B8:27:EB:84:20:21.

You have two versions of squeezelite running there.  Try killall
squeezelite before doing any tests...

The error message: slimproto_run:446 error reading from socket: closed
is one you want to avoid seeing!  (don't use the -z option if you are
using it as it starts a process in the background)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

sbp wrote: 
 castalla: All you have to do is to download this image
 http://tinycorelinux.net/4.x/armv7/a10Core.img.gz  and then unzip it (I
 use 7-ZIP for windows) and burn it to a SD-card using Win32Diskimager. 
 
 Then put the card in your cubieboard and connect a LAN cable and power.
 If you are lucky it will boot to CLI - and from there it is not
 difficult to install squeezelite.
 
 The problem is that I don't now for sure that it will boot on your
 cubieboard, but the only way to find out is to try.

I'll try it - Cubie is still in the hands of the dreaded DHL Germany!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

OGS wrote: 
 I've tested squeezelite on a couple of laptops booting the latest
 live-cd from voyage-mpd. Works perfectly. Sound card is a Stello U3
 USB-S/PDIF concerter (XMOS). I started to wonder which Linux distro and
 hardware I should get to set up a permanent solution. An alix board with
 the Voyage distro seemed to be a good candidate. Then I remebered that
 the Touch is a Linux box and at the same time I noticed posts from
 Triode and soundcheck talking about running squeezelite  on the Touch. I
 tested this successfully with the Stello last night (Touch with v7.8 and
 EDO). I had to set buffer time high to avoid clicks and skips (-a
 5:4::0). 5:4 is probably more than needed but I could play
 24/192 material with no problem and did not test further. I did set the
 mmap off, but I am not sure this is the right setting. Also squeezelite
 -l does not print the list of devices on the Touch. aplay -l does so I
 used that info.
 Triode: would you mind posting parameters that you believe should work
 for Touch and current version of squeezelite?

As long as you don't have default settings (no tuning) then squeezelite
should run on Touch without changing buffer sizes using the hw:CARD=TXRX
output.  It will need the EDO kernel if you want to get to 192k though. 
Note that there is a complexity of what to do with the standard jive
process - you either need to kill it or make it use an alternative
output interface.  [killing it causes problems with the watchdog kicking
in though - can't remember the command to stop that from memory]



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

Triode wrote: 
 You have two versions of squeezelite running there.  Try killall
 squeezelite before doing any tests...
 
 The error message: slimproto_run:446 error reading from socket: closed
 is one you want to avoid seeing!  (don't use the -z option if you are
 using it as it starts a process in the background)

That command worked meaning that now if I do TOP I can see only one
squeezelite instance. But I am still getting the same message
slimproto_run:446 error reading from socket: closed and again I can't
play the 24 bit FLAC...all the other FLAC are played fine. I am going
nuts:(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

sbp wrote: 
 castalla: All you have to do is to download this image
 http://tinycorelinux.net/4.x/armv7/a10Core.img.gz  and then unzip it (I
 use 7-ZIP for windows) and burn it to a SD-card using Win32Diskimager. 
 
 Then put the card in your cubieboard and connect a LAN cable and power.
 If you are lucky it will boot to CLI - and from there it is not
 difficult to install squeezelite.
 
 The problem is that I don't now for sure that it will boot on your
 cubieboard, but the only way to find out is to try.

It boots OK on Cubie and works OK but screen (HDMI 720p / 60hz) is too
big so not all of console is visible.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

albertone74 wrote: 
 That command worked meaning that now if I do TOP I can see only one
 squeezelite instance. But I am still getting the same message
 slimproto_run:446 error reading from socket: closed and again I can't
 play the 24 bit FLAC...all the other FLAC are played fine. I am going
 nuts:(

Do you have squeezelite or squeezeplay on this device (another player). 
You need to kill anything which would have used the same mac address.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

bpa wrote: 
 It boots OK on Cubie and works OK but screen (HDMI 720p / 60hz) is too
 big so not all of console is visible.

I saw the same problem in the microcore forum: The screen is a bit cut
off (root@box: is cut off at ox:), but that is likely a refinement in
script.bin  
So is it something that you can fix by editing the script.bin?   This is
the link to the post:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,14388.0.html

If you only want to use it as a dedicated squeezelite player, then you
will not be needing the attached screen, as you will be able to manage
the player from another computer via SSH using putty.

So I think that if you follow the advice in post number 4 in this thread
you will be able to install Dropbear  (a SSH client). After you have
installed dropbear you can connect to your Cubie from another computer
and then from here follow the instructions in post 1 in order to install
squeezelite and ALSA on the Cubie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

Has anyone managed to cause the latest version to crash??  I'm hoping
the stability problems are solved, but want to check if anyone still
sees issues?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

sbp wrote: 
 I saw the same problem in the microcore forum: The screen is a bit cut
 off (root@box: is cut off at ox:), but that is likely a refinement in
 script.bin  
 So is it something that you can fix by editing the script.bin?   This is
 the link to the post:
 http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,14388.0.html
 
 If you only want to use it as a dedicated squeezelite player, then you
 will not be needing the attached screen, as you will be able to manage
 the player from another computer via SSH using putty.
 
 So I think that if you follow the advice in post number 4 in this thread
 you will be able to install Dropbear  (a SSH client). After you have
 installed dropbear you can connect to your Cubie from another computer
 and then from here follow the instructions in post 1 in order to install
 squeezelite and ALSA on the Cubie.

Mixing in with 'what do I know - nuttin' - any of this of use for fixing
the screen issue?

https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/debian-wheezy-lxde-armhf-build

... talks about tweaks for changing resolution.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

Hi Castalla.

I think it is a good suggestion.
I think that you should download the correct Cubieboard script from the
page you provided. In this there is a script.bin file that you should
use instead of the script.bin file that you got from microcore.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread castalla

sbp wrote: 
 Hi Castalla.
 
 I think it is a good suggestion.
 I think that you should download the correct Cubieboard script from the
 page you provided. In this there is a script.bin file that you should
 use instead of the script.bin file that you got from microcore.

I can only do 'background' gophering at the moment ... Cubie hasn't
arrived yet.  There's also something on that page about bootloaders ...

We/I are in the kind hands of bpa on this at the moment.

If it works then it'd be a brilliant application for future Cubie users
- another replacement for the defunct squeezebox players!

And maybe it would contribute something to the community project.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

I used a Ubuntu system so no need for putty and tried ssh'ing into Cubie
but all I got was connection refused on port 22.  The IP address was
192.168.1.143 which is not part of my DHCP and so I think gateway IP
address was not setup.

Second and subsequent boots of Cubie does not give a HDMI display but I
have a debug cable on serial port and system still boots but config
needs to be sorted out as it think only 512Mb

Code:


  CPU:   SUNXI Family
  Board: A10-EVB
  DRAM:  512 MiB
  MMC:   SUNXI SD/MMC: 0
  *** Warning - bad CRC, using default environment
  
  In:serial
  Out:   serial
  Err:   serial
  Hit any key to stop autoboot:  0 
  reading boot.scr
  
  256 bytes read
  ## Executing script at 4400
  reading script.bin
  
  42144 bytes read
  reading uImage
  
  3287928 bytes read
  reading uCore
  
  2903510 bytes read
  ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 4800 ...
  Image Name:   Linux-3.0.39
  Image Type:   ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
  Data Size:3287864 Bytes = 3.1 MiB
  Load Address: 40008000
  Entry Point:  40008000
  Verifying Checksum ... OK
  ## Loading init Ramdisk from Legacy Image at 4310 ...
  Image Name:   uCore for Allwinner A10
  Image Type:   ARM Linux RAMDisk Image (uncompressed)
  Data Size:2903446 Bytes = 2.8 MiB
  Load Address: 
  Entry Point:  
  Verifying Checksum ... OK
  Loading Kernel Image ... OK
  OK
  
  Starting kernel ...
  
  6Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
  5Linux version 3.0.39 (root@box) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) ) #1 
PREEMPT Tue Aug 21 20:03:28 UTC 2012
  CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d
  CPU: VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing instruction cache
  Machine: sun4i
  6Total Detected Memory: 512MB with 1 banks
  664 MB reserved for MALI
  6Memory Reserved:
  6 SYS  : 0x4300 - 0x4300  (  64 kB)
  6 VE   : 0x4400 - 0x48ff  (  80 MB)
  6 G2D  : 0x5800 - 0x58ff  (  16 MB)
  6 LCD  : 0x5a00 - 0x5bff  (  32 MB)
  Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback
  7On node 0 totalpages: 114688
  7free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c06502c4, node_mem_map c070c000
  7  Normal zone: 896 pages used for memmap
  7  Normal zone: 0 pages reserved
  7  Normal zone: 113792 pages, LIFO batch:31
  7pcpu-alloc: s0 r0 d32768 u32768 alloc=1*32768
  7pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 
  Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 113792
  5Kernel command line: init=/init panic=10 rootwait loglevel=3
  6PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
  6Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
  6Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
  6Memory: 448MB = 448MB total
  5Memory: 313536k/313536k available, 145216k reserved, 0K highmem
  5Virtual kernel memory layout:
  vector  : 0x - 0x1000   (   4 kB)
  fixmap  : 0xfff0 - 0xfffe   ( 896 kB)
  DMA : 0xffc0 - 0xffe0   (   2 MB)
  vmalloc : 0xdc80 - 0xf000   ( 312 MB)
  lowmem  : 0xc000 - 0xdc00   ( 448 MB)
  pkmap   : 0xbfe0 - 0xc000   (   2 MB)
  modules : 0xbf00 - 0xbfe0   (  14 MB)
  .init : 0xc0008000 - 0xc003   ( 160 kB)
  .text : 0xc003 - 0xc0619000   (6052 kB)
  .data : 0xc061a000 - 0xc06580b0   ( 249 kB)
  .bss : 0xc06580d4 - 0xc070bda0   ( 720 kB)
  
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

Thanks for the information.
I'm near the top of my knowledge here - the only thing I can add here,
is to ask if you have installed dropbear on the Cubie. It is not
included in the microcore image, so it needs to be installed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread OGS

Triode wrote: 
 As long as you don't have default settings (no tuning) then squeezelite
 should run on Touch without changing buffer sizes using the hw:CARD=TXRX
 output.  It will need the EDO kernel if you want to get to 192k though. 
 Note that there is a complexity of what to do with the standard jive
 process - you either need to kill it or make it use an alternative
 output interface.  [killing it causes problems with the watchdog kicking
 in though - can't remember the command to stop that from memory]

Hi Triode. First of all to your last question. I've had no crashes at
all with the various PC's I have tried squeezelite on - including the
Touch. It seems rock solid!
Running on the Touch I pointed the standard jive to TXRX before I
started squeezelite driving hw:X20 which is the USB port. I will do some
more testing to see where the clicks and skipping starts and report
back.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread albertone74

Triode wrote: 
 Do you have squeezelite or squeezeplay on this device (another player). 
 You need to kill anything which would have used the same mac address.

I have squeezelite on my raspberry and I have never installed
squeezeplay before. Sorry to be painful Triode :) but what do you mean
by kill anything?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread Triode

albertone74 wrote: 
 I have squeezelite on my raspberry and I have never installed
 squeezeplay before. Sorry to be painful Triode :) but what do you mean
 by kill anything?

I meant kill all other squeezebox emulators - squeezeslave or
squeezeplay for example.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread paul-

albertone74 wrote: 
 Thanks Paul. Can I edit the same file even if I am running Squeezeplug?

The squeezeplug image starts with Raspbian.   Are you running 6.02?   
If you are running v5.0.   You may have repeat ability problems with the
memory split.   But yes, you can make the edits on squeezeplug.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread bpa

This is just some notes on current status - not expecting any answers.

Changing the script.bin  (easy just replace the file no dd necessary)
file improved the display but not perfect missing 1 col on LHS.

Still cant ssh into Cubie.

Boot still has lots of error messages and also still thinks only 512Mb 
- I think bootloader may need to be updated to handle 1Gb Ram.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

2013-01-29 Thread paul-

Triode wrote: 
 Has anyone managed to cause the latest version to crash??  I'm hoping
 the stability problems are solved, but want to check if anyone still
 sees issues?

So far so good.   Been running since I compiled v.9b11.   Seems stable,
so much so that I packaged up my Pi with a relay module to power up and
power down my amp based on when it's playing a stream (with a timeout of
course)   About ready to teach my wife how to use LMS.  :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

Hi bpa.

You could try to download the image I made, this is microcore with SSH
server (Dropbear) and Squeezelite, so the output to the screen will be
microcore. You can get it here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97884-piCoPlayerV2-(26MB-for-Raspberry-with-WiFi-SSH-squeezelite-and-microcore-linux)

So by using this you can get an idea on the performance.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCoPlayer = Squeezelite on Microcore linux. .An embedded OS in RAM with Squeezelite

2013-01-29 Thread sbp

bpa wrote: 
 
 
 Still cant ssh into Cubie.
 
 .

Have you installed Dropbear?



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