Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[leinster-lad]

cool thanks !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Greg Erskine]

IMHO it doesn't really matter.

I tend to put 64bit on RPi4B's and 32bit on the rest.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[leinster-lad]

Noob question, but what version of Picoreplayer is recommended ?

32 bit or 64 bit ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Man in a van wrote: 
> I'll likely get a row for this, but try adding :eek:
> 
> -a :::0
> 
> to the squeezelite line 
> 
> ronnie

Fingers crossed that seems to have done the trick! Thank you!

I looked up the Squeezelite syntax and it seems that your option turns
"mmap", or memory mapping, off. So what is going on here? Also I'm a bit
puzzled why I didn't need it a month ago, and now I do need it?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

rbl wrote: 
> Fingers crossed that seems to have done the trick! Thank you!
> 
> I looked up the Squeezelite syntax and it seems that your option turns
> "mmap", or memory mapping, off. So what is going on here? Also I'm a bit
> puzzled why I didn't need it a month ago, and now I do need it?


Well first off,  I'm the most puzzled :(:rolleyes: as I don't have a
Scooby on any of this techie stuff.

Maybe* @bpa* will enlighten you (there a a few threads at the mo, about
this)

I blame the rpi foundation for plonking PulseAudio on the the top of
everything, 'cause appently it does good "bluetooth" or summat
:confused:

and the forums slimdevices server is being a pain again

tea time :p



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Paul Webster]

For some recent discussion (including faulty memory) ... see ...

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113867-Squeezelite-on-rPi-3-suddenly-not-working=1010606=1#post1010606



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

I'll likely get a row for this, but try adding :eek:

-a :::0

to the squeezelite line 

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Man in a van wrote: 
> Try
> 
> plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones
> - Hardware device with all software conversions
> 
> and reboot

I had to roll back to an old boot disk, and now I seem to have got the
same problem again but your fix no longer works!?!!? The old boot disk,
created May 2020, had "ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o
plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 -n Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5 "

I did a full-upgrade, and as expected I had to change the ExecStart line
as follows
ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 -n
Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5

So now Pi_SqueezeliteService appears in LMS, but no sound comes out of
the Pi's headphone jack. 
I also now get a LOT of rebuffering - every few minutes (on both radio
and flac files). Despite all players being wired into the LAN.
The available audio devices are:

sudo /usr/bin/squeezelite -l
Output devices:
default- Playback/recording through the
PulseAudio sound server
null   - Discard all samples (playback) or
generate zero samples (capture)
jack   - JACK Audio Connection Kit
pulse  - PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=b1 - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=b1,DEV=0 - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=b1  - bcm2835 HDMI 1 - USB Stream Output
sysdefault:CARD=Headphones - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=Headphones  - bcm2835 Headphones - USB Stream
Output

Any idea why no sound is coming out? And the rebuffering? I tried the
whole upgrade process twice and I get exactly the same problems.

The Pi4 is running  LMS 7.9.2 - 1578996832, which was working flawlessly
prior to this upgrade.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Paul Webster]

Which device name have you told Squeezelite to use?

Edited a tiny bit from above:
> 
> "hw:" means only the hardware supported samplerate/sampleformats will be
> sent - so LMS will have to resample/transcode as required.
> 
> "plughw:" means ALSA will support all data rate and will process audio
> stream into a format suitable for the hardware rather than LMS or
> squeezelite. Often "plughw" devices have more successful outcomes rather
> than "hw" especially if user disables certain LMS capabilties.
>



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[crrc]

Apologies in advance if this has been covered elsewhere. Please feel
free to redirect me if so. 

I have recently replaced a raspberry pi 4 which broke (sd card and
holder). I have loaded the new pi with rp4 graphical interface and kodi,
and also behind the scenes squeezelite. Essentially the same as I had in
the previous pi. I have a Topping DS10s which is connected by USB to the
pi and use this for all audio output. I run logitech media server on a
nas for audio.  

Most of my audio files are not high res but I have a few at 98. In my
previous set up these ran fine but for some reason they will not run as
high res now. 

The obvious point is just do what you did before - unfortunately I
cannot remember the precise settings. 

What I can say is that apart from not running 98bps files the system
works well. However it is frustrating and a bit puzzling why it will not
play the high res files at the correct resolution (they play fine at
48bps). I have checked with cat /proc/asound/card0/stream0 and the
output gives the whole range as you would expect but for some reason
these are not getting to the DAC or the DAC is not recognising them. 

I am pretty sure there is nothing wrong with the dac. I have it set as
the default sound card and as said above it works fine with kodi video
files.

Help would be appreciated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[paul-]

They changed the names in the 5.4 kernels.   The old way of having 2
devices with the same name, switching between them was really "hacky".



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

rbl wrote: 
> Works perfectly, thank you! Out of intertest, any idea why it was
> changed?

Some time ago the rpi foundation split the AV Jack and HDMI alsa
controls

With the latest software, there was a change to Pulse Audio being the
default for audio (it sits on top of ALSA)

I think that is when the AV Jack (on the Desktop)  also became the
headphone output in the command line syntext.

It might have been earlier, but I can't remember :confused::o:)


https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/new-raspberry-pi-os-release-december-2020/

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Man in a van wrote: 
> Try
> 
> plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones
> - Hardware device with all software conversions
> 
> and reboot

Works perfectly, thank you! Out of intertest, any idea why it was
changed?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Try

plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835 Headphones
- Hardware device with all software conversions

and reboot



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

bpa wrote: 
> DEV=1 or 2 often means a digital output such as SPDIF or HDMI and so
> nothing will happen on analog.
> 
> "hw:" means only the hardware supported samplerate/sampleformats will be
> sent - so LMS will have to resample/trasncode as required.
> 
> "plughw" means ALSA will support all data rate and will process audio
> stream into a format suitable for the hardware rather than LMS or
> squeezelite.  Often "plughw" devices have more successful outcomes
> rather than "hw" especially if user disables certain LMS capabilties.

Hm - I just did a full_upgrade on my Raspberry and Squeezelite no longer
seems to load. I ran squeezelite -l, and the output devices seem to have
changed, and ALSA replaced with "b1"

Output devices:
default- Playback/recording through the
PulseAudio sound server
null   - Discard all samples (playback) or
generate zero samples (capture)
jack   - JACK Audio Connection Kit
pulse  - PulseAudio Sound Server
plugequal 
equal 
sysdefault:CARD=b1 - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=b1,DEV=0 - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=b1,DEV=0   - bcm2835 HDMI 1, bcm2835 HDMI 1 -
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=b1  - bcm2835 HDMI 1 - USB Stream Output
sysdefault:CARD=Headphones - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Default Audio Device
dmix:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0 - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Headphones,DEV=0   - bcm2835 Headphones, bcm2835
Headphones - Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=Headphones  - bcm2835 Headphones - USB Stream
Output


So I edited /etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service to
ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o plughw:CARD=b1,DEV=0 -n
Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5
(previously squeezelite -o plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 -n
Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5 -d)

Now the service starts, and I can see Pi_SqueezeliteService in my list
of players in LMS. But no sound comes out of the Pi's headphone jack.
Any idea why not? I can mess around and see what works, but it would be
good to get the correct device as bpa mentioned using the incorrect
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

pleased it worked :)

no need for thanks, I nicked it from here :p


https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111940-RaspberryPi-4-Install-problem-user-permissions=970693=1#post970693



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Man in a van wrote: 
> > 
Code:

  >   > sudo chmod -R 775 /media

> > 
> 

This worked - actually I used 777 in the end. It seems obvious now, have
to give access to the parent directories too!
Many thanks ...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Code:

sudo chmod -R 775 /media



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

did you navigate here in LMS ?

path = /media/pi/250GB_ext4/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

I am now trying to set the 250GB USB drive up as a NAS drive so it can
be seen on the network (Windows 10, Android). Everything works except
that I cannot see the USB drive in LMS->Media Folders where I just see
/media/usb but not /media/usb/250GB_ext4 as expected. It is accessible
from the Pi's File Manager, Windows 10 and Android, but not LMS which
seems very odd! The process I went through was:

To setup the NAS drive

umount /dev/sda1
sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1
sudo e2label /dev/sda1 250GB_ext4
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt install samba samba-common
sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf

[250GB_ext4]
path = /media/pi/250GB_ext4/
writeable = yes
create mask = 0775
directory mask = 0775
public=no

sudo chmod 777 /media/pi/250GB_ext4
sudo smbpasswd -a pi
sudo systemctl restart smbd

The drive is now accessible from Windows 10, Android and the Pi.
However, in LMS I can see \media\usb but not 250GB_ext4.

I tried mounting the drive but it made no difference to LMS.
Get ID (ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid)
sudo mkdir /media/usb
sudo chown -R pi:pi /media/usb
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb -o uid=pi,gid=pi

sudo nano /etc/fstab
UUID=c8d9ae87-87c1-4b12-8f85-52c87229b6a0 /media/usb ext4
auto,nofail,noatime,users,rw,uid=pi,gid=pi 0 0


Any ideas why everything can see the 250GB USB drive except LMS? I guess
some permission is wrong somewhere. I am going up quite a learning curve
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

bpa wrote: 
> My comments are sort of aimed at other readers of the thread possibly at
> some later date.
> 
> I'm on a little crusade trying to make people aware that there are
> subtle differences between the different ALSA device selections 
> 
> For example, sometimes "default" is the same as "pulse" which means two
> processes owned by different users cannot use the "pulse" device as
> pulseaudio is normally per user.  
> 
> There are other difference which may be masked by LMS and/or
> squeezelite's ability to transcodeo r resample unless users disable
> features or override them with command line options.
> 
> Another example, recently a PC user was using "front:" which seemed to
> work for any stream but for one stream it didn't.  User was using a $5
> USB audio adapter which only supports 44.1kHz & 48khz and the stream was
> 32kHz.
> Both front and plughw allow more data formats to be played through the
> USB audio adapter. 
> 
> "front" handles 
> Sampling rate 44100..192000 Hz
> Sample formats: S16_LE, S32_LE
> 
> "plughw" handles
> Sampling rate 4000..4294967295 Hz
> Sample formats: S8, U8, S16_LE, S16_BE, U16_LE, U16_BE, S24_LE, S24_BE,
> U24_LE, U24_BE, S32_LE, S32_BE, U32_LE, U32_BE, FLOAT_LE, FLOAT_BE,
> FLOAT64_LE, FLOAT64_BE, MU_LAW, A_LAW, IMA_ADPCM, S24_3LE, S24_3BE,
> U24_3LE, U24_3BE, S20_3LE, S20_3BE, U20_3LE, U20_3BE, S18_3LE, S18_3BE,
> U18_3LE, U18_3BE
> 
> So playing the 32kHz stream on squeezelite did not work through "front"
> but did work through "plughw".

I have taken your advice and am now using plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0. 
Everything is coming out the headphone jack as expected. I tried various
files from 44KHz to 384KHz, and various radio stations.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

@ bpa

I understand your advice (and I have been very grateful for your lucid
explanations, which have helped me a lot,reading what you say to
others).

It is just that in my user case Raspbian Deasktop OS on a rpi 4b I use
only alsa.

(Pulse and Jack  have  to be installed)

All of the dac hats I use respond well to hw: and the same can be said
of usb (I first used front:).

I know of some portable dacs that used to require plughw: and maybe
still do.

Ultimately, I just try things and if I can make them work, then I'm
condfident in recomending something. 

The point that I know nowt about how any of it works is completely
irrelevent  :o :o :) :) 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[bpa]

Man in a van wrote: 
> I have used 
> 
> hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
> 
> on the  pi desktop with no problems.
> 
> Just saying :)
> 
> ronnie
My comments are sort of aimed at other readers of the thread possibly at
some later date.

I'm on a little crusade trying to make people aware that there are
subtle differences between the different ALSA device selections 

For example, sometimes "default" is the same as "pulse" which means two
processes owned by different users cannot use the "pulse" device as
pulseaudio is normally per user.  

There are other difference which may be masked by LMS and/or
squeezelite's ability to transcodeo r resample unless users disable
features or override them with command line options.

Another example, recently a PC user was using "front:" which seemed to
work for any stream but for one stream it didn't.  User was using a $5
USB audio adapter which only supports 44.1kHz & 48khz and the stream was
32kHz.
Both front and plughw allow more data formats to be played through the
USB audio adapter. 

"front" handles 
Sampling rate 44100..192000 Hz
Sample formats: S16_LE, S32_LE

"plughw" handles
Sampling rate 4000..4294967295 Hz
Sample formats: S8, U8, S16_LE, S16_BE, U16_LE, U16_BE, S24_LE, S24_BE,
U24_LE, U24_BE, S32_LE, S32_BE, U32_LE, U32_BE, FLOAT_LE, FLOAT_BE,
FLOAT64_LE, FLOAT64_BE, MU_LAW, A_LAW, IMA_ADPCM, S24_3LE, S24_3BE,
U24_3LE, U24_3BE, S20_3LE, S20_3BE, U20_3LE, U20_3BE, S18_3LE, S18_3BE,
U18_3LE, U18_3BE

So playing the 32kHz stream on squeezelite did not work through "front"
but did work through "plughw".



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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bpa wrote: 
> DEV=1 or 2 often means a digital output such as SPDIF or HDMI and so
> nothing will happen on analog.
> 
> "hw:" means only the hardware supported samplerate/sampleformats will be
> sent - so LMS will have to resample/trasncode as required.
> 
> "plughw" means ALSA will support all data rate and will process audio
> stream into a format suitable for the hardware rather than LMS or
> squeezelite.  Often "plughw" devices have more successful outcomes
> rather than "hw" especially if user disables certain LMS capabilties.


I have used 

hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0

on the  pi desktop with no problems.

Just saying :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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Man in a van wrote: 
> try 
> 
> hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0
> 
> you can alway revert back if it does not work, or try DEV=1, DEV=2

DEV=1 or 2 often means a digital output such as SPDIF or HDMI and so
nothing will happen on analog.

"hw:" means only the hardware supported samplerate/sampleformats will be
sent - so LMS will have to resample/trasncode as required.

"plughw" means ALSA will support all data rate and will process audio
stream into a format suitable for the hardware rather than LMS or
squeezelite.  Often "plughw" devices have more successful outcomes
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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try 

hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0

you can alway revert back if it does not work, or try DEV=1, DEV=2



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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bpa wrote: 
> If it is working you can omit the "-d output=info "  - it is there only
> for debugging 
> 
> To be strictly, it may be better to have a DEV setting on the ALSA
> device - otherwise it is default to zero.
> 
> You may also get issues later on with using sysdefault rather than an
> explicit device - such as not supporting certain data rates.

I have removed the -d parameter. But what then do I set DEV to? Or more
to the point, the -o parameter? I am just using the Pi's headphone jack
at the moment. squeezelite -l gives the following:

default- Playback/recording through the
PulseAudio sound server
null   - Discard all samples (playback) or
generate zero samples (capture)
jack   - JACK Audio Connection Kit
pulse  - PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Default
Audio Device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Hardware
device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=ALSA- bcm2835 ALSA - USB Stream Output

Also is it worth setting the MAC address or anything else to ensure it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> This worked for me but I had to change ExecStart in squeezelite.service
> file a tiny bit. Now SqueezeLite automatically starts at boot.
If it is working you can omit the "-d output=info "  - it is there only
for debugging 

To be strictly, it may be better to have a DEV setting on the ALSA
device - otherwise it is default to zero.

You may also get issues later on with using sysdefault rather than an
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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hagensieker wrote: 
> Try this.  I made this a year or two ago.  Been running LMS on pi's for
> years.
> 
> https://www.hagensieker.com/wordpress/2018/06/12/302/

This worked for me but I had to change ExecStart in squeezelite.service
file a tiny bit. Now SqueezeLite automatically starts at boot.

sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service

[Unit]
Description=Squeezelite

After=network.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o sysdefault:CARD=ALSA -n
Pi_SqueezeliteService -C 5 -d output=info

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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Try this.  I made this a year or two ago.  Been running LMS on pi's for
years.

https://www.hagensieker.com/wordpress/2018/06/12/302/



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Well I often pursue the following methodolgy when trying something new.

Make a base image, this can include stuff I am certain about.

Back up the image.

Continue experimenting with the base image, if I mess up, then flash a
new one and continue.

When I have found the correct path, I make a new image and install the
"whatever" and make a back up image of that.

And progress in this manner until I am happy with what I have, and, you
guessed it, make a back up image.

When I see something that interests me on this or other forums I have a
play.

Sometimes I have given up because the methodology defeats me (trying to
build perl for a 32 bit install was my last failure) but I always learn
new stuff and the devs here are a patient bunch :)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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Man in a van wrote: 
> I think maybe you were unfortunate with the guide you found
> 
> I started, first with the Local Player Plugin in LMS, then migrated to
> Gerrelts garage (Gerrelt is also a member here)
> 
> http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wordpress/
> 
> which is still the basis for how I do my installs.
> 
> If you select Analogue from the Speaker icon on the Raspbian Desktop
> (right click) and use the Add/Remove Software route or the sudo apt
> install route then it just loads at boot.
> 
> I use Gerrelt's method because I can set the Autostart and Autoplay
> function (which is also available within piCorePlayer) but is a step to
> far for me, as it might need a script alteration I'm not capable off.
> 
> Plus I noticed that you have Jack and PulseAudio installed and I never
> bother with, or have experience of those.
> 
> *bpa* is a wiley fox :p don't you think ? and all the other devs :):)
> 
> ronnie
> 
> check your pm

Well everything is now running albeit without auto start for
squeezelite. I also note that, unlike in Windows where I eventually gave
up with Squeezelite, everything is sync'd properly! I'll check through
the links and everything on Monday and I'm sure I'll get the auto start
to run.

Huge thanks to everyone - yes - v smart and helpful, I have seen bpa a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> It would be nice if it just ran automatically at boot, preferably
> without a window having to be open.
> 
> Was this the problem all the time, I just had to start squeezelite? I
> don't think that was mentioned in the installation guides.

I think maybe you wre unfortunate wityh the guide you found

I started with first with the Local Player Plugin in LMS, then migrated
to Gerrelts garage (Gerrelt is also a member here)

http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wordpress/

which is still the bases for how I do my installs.

If you select Analogue from the Speaker icon on the Raspbian Desktop
(right click) and use the Add/Remove Software route or the sudo apt
install route then it just loads at boot.

I use Gerrelts method because I can set the Autostart and Autoplay
function (which is also available within piCorePlayer) but is a step to
far for me as it might need a script alteration I'm not capable off.

Plus I noticed that you have Jack and PulseAudio installed and I never
bother with, or have experience of them.

*bpa* is a wiley fox :p don't you think ? and all the other devs :):)

ronnie

check your pm



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> It would be nice if it just ran automatically at boot, preferably
> without a window having to be open.
OK

> Was this the problem all the time, I just had to start squeezelite? I
> don't think that was mentioned in the installation guides.

The apt installation of squeezelite probably sets it up as a service. 
Was the service enabled ?

Check its status possible with command "/etc/init.d/squeezelite status "
- that's is an Ubuntu command - not sure about Pi version.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

bpa wrote: 
> 
> How do you want it to run ?

It would be nice if it just ran automatically at boot, preferably
without a window having to be open.

Was this the problem all the time, I just had to start squeezelite? I
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> Progress! It works and appears in LMS! :)  I get the following output -
> seems odd that there is a memory error  (FWIW it's a 4GB Pi 4)

Don't worry that is squeezelite trying to "lock" memory as way of
sharing data. Not essential - I can't remember when it is used.

Good that it plays. That proves squeezelite is OK and audio device is
OK.

> If I close the Terminal window then it stops working..

How do you want it to run ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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bpa wrote: 
> OK "squeezelite -l " is a command it list all playable devices
> 
> "-o   " is the option for the device name to be used
> "-n " is the option for the player name
> "-C 5" means release the output device if not used withing 5 seconds.
> "-d" is the logging output control
> 
> The following will play to device "sysdefault:CARD=ALSA"  name the
> player "Testplay1" , release theoutput device and enable logging when
> trying to use the output device
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > squeezelite -o sysdefault:CARD=ALSA -n Testplay1 -C 5 -d output=info
  > 

> > 

Progress! It works and appears in LMS! :)  I get the following output -
seems odd that there is a memory error  (FWIW it's a 4GB Pi 4)

[16:47:40.380667] output_init_alsa:817 init output
[16:47:40.380858] output_init_alsa:846 requested alsa_buffer: 40
alsa_period: 4 format: any mmap: 1
[16:47:40.417307] output_init_common:410 supported rates: 384000 352800
192000 176400 96000 88200 48000 44100 32000 24000 22500 16000 12000
11025 8000 
[16:47:40.417356] output_init_alsa:860 unable to lock memory: Cannot
allocate memory
[16:47:40.428999] output_flush:423 flush output buffer
[16:47:41.526715] output_thread:638 open output device:
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA
[16:47:41.526871] alsa_open:355 opening device at: 44100
[16:47:41.528253] alsa_open:406 opened device sysdefault:CARD=ALSA using
format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1
[16:47:41.528537] alsa_open:485 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size:
1776 period size: 444
[16:47:41.656696] _output_frames:146 track start sample rate: 44100
replay_gain: 0

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OK "squeezelite -l " is a command it list all playable devices

"-o   " is the option for the device name to be used
"-n " is the option for the player name
"-C 5" means release the output device if not used withing 5 seconds.
"-d" is the logging output control

The following will play to device "sysdefault:CARD=ALSA"  name the
player "Testplay1" , release theoutput device and enable logging when
trying to use the output device

Code:


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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bpa wrote: 
> Ensuring squeezelite is not running as a service.
> Can you run squeezelite on a command line like aplay and does it work
> with the same audio device.

Sorry, not entirely sure what you mean. I can do say "squeezelite -l"
and I get the following output

Output devices:
default- Playback/recording through the
PulseAudio sound server
null   - Discard all samples (playback) or
generate zero samples (capture)
jack   - JACK Audio Connection Kit
pulse  - PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Default
Audio Device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Hardware
device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=ALSA- bcm2835 ALSA - USB Stream Output



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> I used aplay to play a .wav file which I could hear through the
> headphone socket.

Ensuring squeezelite is not running as a service.
Can you run squeezelite on a command line like aplay and does it work
with the same audio device.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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I used aplay to play a .wav file which I could hear through the
headphone socket.

I uninstalled squeezelite by running "sudo apt-get remove squeezelite".

I then reinstalled it with "sudo apt-get install squeezelite".  I
noticed that when doing "sudo nano /etc/default//squeezelite" the
original file that I had edited was still there which seems odd. I
didn't reboot after uninstalling, but rebooted after reinstalling.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> I get the following results:
> 
> ps -A | grep squeeze
> 449 ?00:00:00 squeezeboxserve
> 457 ?00:02:26 squeezeboxserve
> 
> fuser -v /dev/snd/*
> USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
> /dev/snd/controlC0:  pi  619 F lxpanel
> pi  646 F pulseaudio
> 
> I have tried waiting for network and boot, and it made no difference...

Can you check whether the ALSA audio device is working  OK with another
player ? (if desparate use aplay with a WAV file)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> I get the following results:
> 
> ps -A | grep squeeze
> 449 ?00:00:00 squeezeboxserve
> 457 ?00:02:26 squeezeboxserve
> 
> fuser -v /dev/snd/*
> USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
> /dev/snd/controlC0:  pi  619 F lxpanel
> pi  646 F pulseaudio
> 
> I have tried waiting for network and boot, and it made no difference...

I'm guesing that squeezelite is not installed properly (especially if
you have tried twice and maybe not remove the first install)

I would remove squezelite and start again



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

I get the following results:

ps -A | grep squeeze
449 ?00:00:00 squeezeboxserve
457 ?00:02:26 squeezeboxserve

fuser -v /dev/snd/*
USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0:  pi  619 F lxpanel
pi  646 F pulseaudio

I have tried waiting for network and boot, and it made no difference...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> Still no joy. Not sure what else would be using the audio device as
> nothing else has been installed except LMS, and 2 attempts at
> Squeezelite.

Have you tested the output device works with any other player ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Also


On the Raspbian Desktop, open raspberry pi config and tick "Wait for
Network"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Try

pi@LMS:~ $ ps -A |grep squeeze

400 ?00:00:00 squeezeboxserve
417 ?00:00:20 squeezeboxserve
596 ?00:00:27 squeezelite


Maybe remove/ uninstall squeezelite and start again :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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bpa wrote: 
> I think it is about sharing the audio device which can give the error
> "unable to open output device"
> 
> Try to use as audio device  - plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   
> also in EXTRA_ARGS have  "-C 5"

Still no joy. Not sure what else would be using the audio device as
nothing else has been installed except LMS, and 2 attempts at
Squeezelite.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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and status


Code:

pi@LMS:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite status
  * squeezelite.service - LSB: Lightweight headless Squeezebox emulator
  Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/squeezelite; generated)
  Active: active (running) since Sat 2020-04-25 13:14:27 BST; 6min ago
  Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
  Process: 581 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/squeezelite start (code=exited, 
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Tasks: 4 (limit: 4915)
  Memory: 89.6M
  CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service
  `-596 /usr/bin/squeezelite -n LMS -o sysdefault:CARD=ALSA
  
  Apr 25 13:14:27 LMS systemd[1]: Starting LSB: Lightweight headless Squeezebox 
emulator...
  Apr 25 13:14:27 LMS systemd[1]: Started LSB: Lightweight headless Squeezebox 
emulator.
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

this my set up


Code:

# Defaults for squeezelite initscript
  # sourced by /etc/init.d/squeezelite
  # installed at /etc/default/squeezelite by the maintainer scripts
  
  # The name for the squeezelite player:
  SL_NAME="$(hostname -s)"
  
  # ALSA output device:
  SL_SOUNDCARD="sysdefault:CARD=ALSA"
  
  # Squeezebox server (Logitech Media Server):
  # Uncomment the next line if you want to point squeezelite at the IP address 
of
  # your squeezebox server. This is usually unnecessary as the server is
  # automatically discovered.
  #SB_SERVER_IP="192.168.x.y"
  
  # Additional options to pass to squeezelite:
  # Please do not include -z to make squeezelite daemonise itself.
  #SB_EXTRA_ARGS=""
  
  



and it plays

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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I think it is about sharing the audio device.

Try to use as audio device  - plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   
also in EXTRA_ARGS have  "-C 5"



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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Yes I did a reboot. I also tried your changes (line in red, and
commenting out EXTRA) which didn't help.

Result of "sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite status -l" 
 squeezelite.service - Squeezelite
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled;
vendor preset: enabled)
Active: inactive (dead) since Sat 2020-04-25 11:47:49 BST; 1h 3min
ago
Process: 449 ExecStart=/usr/bin/squeezelite -o
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 -n calendar -s 192.168.1.129 -a 80:4 -m
00:0a:95:9d:68:16 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 449 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

Apr 25 11:47:48 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite.
Apr 25 11:47:49 raspberrypi squeezelite[449]: [11:47:49.309590]
test_open:294 playback open error: No such file or directory
Apr 25 11:47:49 raspberrypi squeezelite[449]: [11:47:49.309692]
output_init_common:381 unable to open output device
Apr 25 11:47:49 raspberrypi systemd[1]: squeezelite.service: Succeeded.
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ 


Are my two attempted installs getting muddled up? The first few lines
look like the first attempted install
(www.hagensieker.com/wordpress/2018/06/12/302/) which didn't work as I
included the MAC address with that. No idea how to get rid of that
install.


And result of "squeezelite -l"

Output devices:
default- Playback/recording through the
PulseAudio sound server
null   - Discard all samples (playback) or
generate zero samples (capture)
jack   - JACK Audio Connection Kit
pulse  - PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=ALSA   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Default
Audio Device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct
hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Hardware
device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI -
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 -
Hardware device with all software conversions
usbstream:CARD=ALSA- bcm2835 ALSA - USB Stream Output



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

Alsso, go the the LMS settings page > Player Tab > Audio > set volume to
100%

click Apply 

Refresh the web gui, select the player

ronnie

Edit: It's a bit quiet from the audio jack



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

did you check if squeezelite is running ?


Code:

sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite status
  




reboot after install ?



Code:

pi@LMS:~ $ squeezelite -l
  Output devices:
  null   - Discard all samples (playback) or generate 
zero samples (capture)
  default   
  output
  sysdefault:CARD=ALSA   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Default Audio 
Device
  dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct sample 
mixing device
  dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI - Direct 
sample mixing device
  dmix:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2   - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 - Direct 
sample mixing device
  dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct sample 
snooping device
  dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI - Direct 
sample snooping device
  dsnoop:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 - Direct 
sample snooping device
  hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Direct hardware 
device without any conversions
  hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI - Direct 
hardware device without any conversions
  hw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 - Direct 
hardware device without any conversions
  plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=0 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 ALSA - Hardware device 
with all software conversions
  plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=1 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI - Hardware 
device with all software conversions
  plughw:CARD=ALSA,DEV=2 - bcm2835 ALSA, bcm2835 IEC958/HDMI1 - 
Hardware device with all software conversions
  
  



try the line in red (Reboot)

I'll pm a how to for Ralphy's version later today

ronnie

I would comment out the SB-ARGS for the moment, leave that at default



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

kidstypike wrote: 
> if you've no experience with Raspbian, why didn't you use piCorePlayer
> as advised? Everything is done for you, the squeezelite player works
> straight out of the box. If you want to use a Pi for other stuff get
> another one. I have at least 10 of the things.

In the longer run I want to get to know about the Pi and use it for
other things, so I decided to "be brave" and launch myself straight into
it. I was very pleased when it proved so easy to get LMS running
reliably. I never actually intended to use the Pi for Squeezelite since
my experience on Windows was not good (esp with sync'ing) and I ended up
just hooking another SB3 onto my PC to get rid of Squeezelite. So I
didn't originally intend to even use Squeezelite on the Pi ..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[kidstypike]

rbl wrote: 
> Well I got the Pi4 and within a couple of hours had LMS running on
> Raspian and running my 4 sync'd SB3s perfectly with the Pi4 on Wifi.
> That includes BC iPlayer!  So far it seems more reliable and effortless
> than on Windows which gave me 2 decades of niggles. Fingers crossed!!!
> Thanks to everyone getting me on this path in the first place.
> 
> But I am having no luck with Squeezelite. I installed it by one method
> and then found another simpler method which I did, neither got
> Squeezelite to appear in LMS.
> 
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade
> sudo apt-get install squeezelite
> sudo apt-get install libflac-dev
> 
> Then using sudo nano /etc/default/squeezelite I edited the config file
> to be:
> 
> SL_NAME="$(hostname -s)"
> SL_SOUNDCARD="sysdefault:CARD=ALSA"
> SB_SERVER_IP="192.168.1.129"
> SB_EXTRA_ARGS="-a 180"
> 
> I got sysdefault:CARD=ALSA by running "squeezelite -l". I want sound to
> come out of the headphone jack.
> 
> Do a reboot.
> 
> Any ideas where I have gone wrong? I have no knowledge of raspian and
> therefore am stuck how to diagnose the problem.


if you've no experience with Raspbian, why didn't you use piCorePlayer
as advised? Everything is done for you, the squeezelite player works
straight out of the box. If you want to use a Pi for other stuff get
another one. I have at least 10 of the things.



*Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.0.0 18K library,
playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs)
*Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite,
*Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
*Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
*Garage* - Squeezebox Touch > Edifier R980T

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Well I got the Pi4 and within a couple of hours had LMS running on
Raspian and running my 4 sync'd SB3s perfectly with the Pi4 on Wifi.
That includes BC iPlayer!  So far it seems more reliable and effortless
than on Windows which gave me 2 decades of niggles. Fingers crossed!!!
Thanks to everyone getting me on this path in the first place.

But I am having no luck with Squeezelite. I installed it by one method
and then found another simpler method which I did, neither got
Squeezelite to appear in LMS.

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install squeezelite
sudo apt-get install libflac-dev

Then using sudo nano /etc/default/squeezelite I edited the config file
to be:

SL_NAME="$(hostname -s)"
SL_SOUNDCARD="sysdefault:CARD=ALSA"
SB_SERVER_IP="192.168.1.129"
SB_EXTRA_ARGS="-a 180"

I got sysdefault:CARD=ALSA by running "squeezelite -l". I want sound to
come out of the headphone jack.

Any ideas where I have gone wrong? I have no knowledge of raspian and
therefore am stuck how to diagnose the problem.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> Thanks very much for the offer, but I'll try doing it from scratch as I
> have to learn the ropes. If I run into problems then I'll take you up on
> your offer. Think I'll start with PiCorePlayer for quick proof of
> concept and then move to Raspian...

That's what I did. As you will discover, the RPi boots from a SD card,
so you can have PiCorePlayer on one card and Raspian on another and
change OS's by powering down, swap cards and power up again. This should
give you the confidence to experiment with Raspian knowing you can
easily go back to PiCorePlayer and LMS if something should go wrong.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

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rbl wrote: 
> It sounds like Raspian will give me a fully functional Pi with LMS still
> working 100% which is its main purpose. 
> 
> I am an oldie - grew up on MS-DOS (and still prefer it to Windows
> explorer much of the time) and C/C++, but I have never touched Unix. is
> Raspian going to be a big learning curve as I don't have a lot of time
> at the moment, in which case Ill go for piCorePlayer?

+1 for the PcP route. My experience i case it helps your decision
making. I was running LMS on windows and tired of having the keep my
desktop on, or, after shutting down the PC, wondering "what happened to
the music?"?

With the help of many in this community I built a PcP on a pi3B+ with a
2TB USB HDD as a LMS Server only. Hardware total about $USD100. Super
easy. Then I built another for my seasonal cabin. I am retired so they
play all the time when I am there. Rock solid. I could not be happier. I
have built 2 others for friends. 

An additional benefit - I don't do cloud and the power is not on at the
cabin when I am not there, so I had to decide how to keep my two
libraries in sync. I got another HDD that I call the "Travel HDD". I
setup FreeFileSync so that I can run it when I am getting ready to go
from one location to another, and sync when I arrive.

The bonus is in using Samba on the PCP, I can access the free space on
the HDD to backup my user files from one location to another in the same
sync. That way, not only do I have file backup at home, I also have one
at another location, and visa versa. I also can't tell you how many
times I was looking for file and realized it was on the desktop of the
other location, and smiled because I could just access it through the
backup HDD locally.

I know that in this day of clouds, and network over the internet what I
do is a bit Fred Flintstone, but it is easy once setup, and it works for
me.

Just thought I would share my experience. Many thanks to the SB founding
fathers, PcP developers, and all of the friendly support on this forum.
ALOT of people spend ALOT of time helping others

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Man in a van wrote: 
> let me know which pi you decide on and which OS you want and I can knock
> up an image and send you a download link :)
> 
> ronnie
> 
> if you get a couple od sd cards you can then play at leisure :)
> 
> ronnie

Thanks very much for the offer, but I'll try doing it from scratch as I
have to learn the ropes. If I run into problems then I'll take you up on
your offer. Think I'll start with PiCorePlayer for quick proof of
concept and then move to Raspian...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[slartibartfast]

waldo wrote: 
> +1 for Max2Play
> I've been running Max2Play in two different setups. In both setups had
> LMS + Player
> 
> 1) Raspi2 B with a 1TB USB 2.5" drive and a IQAudio DAC Hat and wired
> ethernet. never had any problem. This setup is capable to stream to a
> second external player without trouble (only tested with same song
> streamed to local and remote player).
> 2) Raspi3 B+ with a 128GB USB thumbdrive and IQAudio Amp Hat for my
> parents (this one used wifi). My only problem with wifi was related to
> the way ISP router worked and fixed it making a reservation in dhcp to
> always get the same IP address.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned and provided you don't plan to use a HAT DAC,
> I'd go for the RASPI4 because of the improvements in USB. I think the
> 1GB model is no longer available, so I'd go for the 2GB model. I would
> check first using wifi and only change to wired ethernet if facing
> problems.
> 
> RegardsThe current Max2Play download for the Pi4 has issues if you try to
update to the latest kernel. It seems to have become an issue when
Raspbian Buster moved to "stable". I m sure it will be fixed one day but
I wouldn"t recommend it at the moment.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[waldo]

+1 for Max2Play
I've been running Max2Play in two different setups. In both setups had
LMS + Player

1) Raspi2 B with a 1TB USB 2.5" drive and a IQAudio DAC Hat and wired
ethernet. never had any problem. This setup is capable to stream to a
second external player without trouble (only tested with same song
streamed to local and remote player).
2) Raspi3 B+ with a 128GB USB thumbdrive and IQAudio Amp Hat for my
parents (this one used wifi). My only problem with wifi was related to
the way ISP router worked and fixed it making a reservation in dhcp to
always get the same IP address.

As far as I'm concerned and provided you don't plan to use a HAT DAC,
I'd go for the RASPI4 because of the improvements in USB. I think the
1GB model is no longer available, so I'd go for the 2GB model. I would
check first using wifi and only change to wired ethernet if facing
problems.

Regards



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Man in a van]

rbl wrote: 
> It sounds like Raspian will give me a fully functional Pi with LMS still
> working 100% which is its main purpose. 
> 
> I am an oldie - grew up on MS-DOS (and still prefer it to Windows
> explorer much of the time) and C/C++, but I have never touched Unix. is
> Raspian going to be a big learning curve as I don't have a lot of time
> at the moment, in which case Ill go for piCorePlayer?

let me know which pi you decide on and which OS you want and I can knock
up an image and send you a download link :)

ronnie

if you get a couple od sd cards you can then play at leisure :)

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

d6jg wrote: 
> I totally agree but without any Linux skills I think that may be a bit
> of a struggle. If the principle purpose is to get a working LMS then I’d
> stick with piCorePlayer but suggest getting a second Pi - perhaps a 3B -
> to learn some Linux.
> 

It sounds like Raspian will give me a fully functional Pi with LMS still
working 100% which is its main purpose. 

I am an oldie - grew up on MS-DOS (and still prefer it to Windows
explorer much of the time) and C/C++, but I have never touched Unix. is
Raspian going to be a big learning curve as I don't have a lot of time
at the moment, in which case Ill go for piCorePlayer?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[bpa]

d6jg wrote: 
> Not sure whether it’s been wholly answered but BBC iPlayer, Spotify and
> any plugin that works on W10 will work on a piCorePlayer based LMS

With regard to BBCiPlayer plugin.  It has no dependent helper
application and works on all LMS systems regardless of OS.  BBC uses AAC
so standard LMS AAC transcoding is required for any player which does
not support native AAC.

There are 2 version of PlayHLS plugin.  
PlayHLS V2.* has no has no dependent helper applications and works on
all LMS systems regardless of OS. HLS streams use either AAC or MP3 
codec and so LMS transcoding will be used to play the streams.
PlayHLS V1.* uses ffmpeg  and so has to be installed. Some users have
repurposed PlayHLS V1.* to play non HLS streams by taking advantage of
ffmpeg capabilities. 


The internet streams/services that are played with BBCiPlayer and
PlayHLS often require https support.  LMS needs to be at least version
7.9.2 for https support and also LMS uses underlying OS support for
https with IO::Socket::SSL and this should be at least V2.* (V2.066 is
current) - otherwise some streams/services may fail to play.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[teeitup]

Another option is 'Max2Play' (https://www.max2play.com/en/).
I use it on the Pi that plays in my car.

With Pi's, having multiple MicroSD cards makes trying, testing and
comparing different installs a breeze.

Good Luck,



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Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1503129892 @ Sun Aug 20 04:39:12
UTC 2017
OS: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform: i686-linux
Perl Version: 5.24.1 - i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 4

Squeezebox3:
Firmware: 137

Duet: (2 receivers, 1 controller)
Firmware: 77

Boom
Firmware: 57
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[truscellino]

rbl wrote: 
> I mean the various accessories that can be added to the Pi - sensors,
> motors etc.. It seems that piCorePlayer is a stripped down o/s focusing
> on audio and I am just wondering if there is any major loss of Pi
> functionality (over and above LMS) as a result?

Well yes, my understanding is that PicorePlayer is designed to be
minimal and just contains the components to run LMS / jivelite /
squeezelite and a simple web server for configuration purposes. The
whole systems is loaded in RAM, which is remarkable. You can add some
extensions, but you won't get a full desktop-type environment for fun
scripts/automation projects. You can still multi-boot (with something
like BerryBoot) and use other operating systems on the raspberry Pi, as
and when needed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[truscellino]

A month ago I put together a PicorePlayer server/player on rpi B+ (4
years old device) with official touchscreen, without previous experience
of raspberry Pi or LMS. I started with the guidance material on
PicorePlayer website:
https://www.picoreplayer.org/main_getting_started.shtml
https://www.picoreplayer.org/main_howto.shtml
I also asked a couple of things on this forum and got answers.

Everything worked flawlessly pretty much, Once PicorePlayer is installed
and running, the configuration via web pages is very clear and
effective. LMS, jivelite (if you have a touchscreen) and squeezelite,
everything can be set up. I would say it's probably simpler than doing
it on Windows 10,,,



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[d6jg]

raglencross wrote: 
> I have used Picoreplayer on a RPi4 and it is an excellent LMS
> server/player.  However, if you want to use your RPi4 for other programs
> as well as LMS install the Raspian OS per raspberrypi.org. That site
> will give you full instructions on how to do this, as well as
> instructions and info on many other aspects of using the RPi. In my
> case, I wanted to run PLEX as well as LMS on my RPi4, so after using
> Picoreplayer for a while, I switched to Raspian to allow for the
> installation of Plex (and other programs) which I couldn't do with
> Picoreplayer.  Google is your friend when it comes to getting
> instructions for things you want to do on the RPi that aren't covered on
> raspberrypi.org.

I totally agree but without any Linux skills I think that may be a bit
of a struggle. If the principle purpose is to get a working LMS then I’d
stick with piCorePlayer but suggest getting a second Pi - perhaps a 3B -
to learn some Linux.

Not sure whether it’s been wholly answered but BBC iPlayer, Spotify and
any plugin that works on W10 will work on a piCorePlayer based LMS



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[raglencross]

I have used Picoreplayer on a RPi4 and it is an excellent LMS
server/player.  However, if you want to use your RPi4 for other programs
as well as LMS install the Raspian OS per raspberrypi.org. That site
will give you full instructions on how to do this, as well as
instructions and info on many other aspects of using the RPi. In my
case, I wanted to run PLEX as well as LMS on my RPi4, so after using
Picoreplayer for a while, I switched to Raspian to allow for the
installation of Plex (and other programs) which I couldn't do with
Picoreplayer.  Google is your friend when it comes to getting
instructions for things you want to do on the RPi that aren't covered on
raspberrypi.org.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[kidstypike]

rbl wrote: 
> I mean the various accessories that can be added to the Pi - sensors,
> motors etc.. It seems that piCorePlayer is a stripped down o/s focusing
> on audio and I am just wondering if there is any major loss of Pi
> functionality (over and above LMS) as a result?

LMS on wheels? :confused::)

No, no motors or sensors.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

kidstypike wrote: 
> 
> 
> Not sure what you mean by temperature sensors? piCorePlayer displays
> it's own CPU graph.
> 
> 30088

I mean the various accessories that can be added to the Pi - sensors,
motors etc.. It seems that piCorePlayer is a stripped down o/s focusing
on audio and I am just wondering if there is any major loss of Pi
functionality (over and above LMS) as a result?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[kidstypike]

rbl wrote: 
> Perfect. From a quick look it seems that piCorePlayer is a very stripped
> down o/s focused on audio stuff. So a couple of questions:
> 
> - will I be able to stream radio, esp. using BBC iPlayer (or PlayHLS),
> via LMS (as I do in Win10)?
> 
> - will I still be able to use the Pi for all the other sorts of things
> that it can do. (e.g. use temperature sensors)?

LMS running on a Pi/piCorePlayer is no different to LMS/Win10.

Not sure what you mean by temperature sensors? piCorePlayer displays
it's own CPU graph.

30088


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

d6jg wrote: 
> As it is going to be an LMS server then Pi4 with 4GB RAM. You should
> definitely wire it. You also need to to add a USB HD to store your
> music. The Pi4 benefits from USB3 so look for a 1TB USB3 SSD disk.
> As to OS look at piCoreplayer. No Linux skills required and lots of help
> here which will explain how to install it, add LMS and generally get it
> going.


Perfect. From a quick look it seems that piCorePlayer is a very stripped
down o/s focused on audio stuff. So a couple of questions:

- will I be able to stream radio, esp. using BBC iPlayer (or PlayHLS),
via LMS (as I do in Win10)?

- will I still be able to use the Pi for all the other sorts of things
that it can do. (e.g. use temperature sensors)?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[kidstypike]

Just to add - 

The kit recommended by @d6jg is okay, but I'd bin the case as being not
fit for purpose, the Pi4 runs hot -
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=243500=250

Get one of these instead - 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLr08K0c1E



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[Paul Webster]

Quick extra thing ... if your music is on a networked storage device
(like a WD MyCloud) then you can access that from the RPi - there would
be no need to buy an extra USB disk.

Get an official power supply for the RPi 4

Also - think about some optional components
micro hdmi adapter
case



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[d6jg]

Pi 4 Starter Kit
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Pi-Hut-Raspberry-Starter-White/dp/B07V9Y1SR4/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1VQO8AGAT9CD5=1=raspberry+pi+4+kit=1587055299=raspberry+pi+4%2Caps%2C150=8-8

USB3 2TB HD - This one is NOT SSD
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/WD-Elements-Portable-External-Drive/dp/B06W55K9N6/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2N1H1GZTNZQ8A=1=usb3+ssd+external+drive=1587055378=usb3+ssd%2Caps%2C154=8-8

USB3 1TB SSD
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MU-PA1T0B-Portable-SSD-1TB/dp/B074M774TW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2N1H1GZTNZQ8A=1=usb3+ssd+external+drive=1587055487=usb3+ssd%2Caps%2C154=8-3



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[d6jg]

rbl wrote: 
> Hi - I want to run LMS on a Raspberry Pi (rather than Win10) for a bunch
> of reasons. I have zero experience of the Pi and still need to buy one.
> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> 
> I need it to:
> 
> - connect to 3 wired SB3s and a wireless SB Radio, all sync'd
> 
> - play a 200GB FLAC library
> 
> - stream internet radio - ideally to include BBC iPlayer (or PlayHLS)
> 
> - the Raspberry Pi can be either wired or wireless (would slightly
> prefer wired for reliability when syncing)
> 
> 
> Questions:
> 
> - which Pi version to buy? The lastest Pi 4? Or a cheaper Pi 3 B+? Or
> something else?
> 
> - is there a beginners guide to get me going? I don't even know which
> operating system to use! I am used to Windows and DOS (! - remember
> that?)


As it is going to be an LMS server then Pi4 with 4GB RAM. You should
definitely wire it. You also need to to add a USB HD to store your
music. The Pi4 benefits from USB3 so look for a 1TB USB3 SSD disk.
As to OS look at piCoreplayer. No Linux skills required and lots of help
here which will explain how to install it, add LMS and generally get it
going.



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-> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom 
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[SlimDevices: Unix] Running LMS on Raspberry Pi for newbie to the Pi

[rbl]

Hi - I want to run LMS on a Raspberry Pi (rather than Win10) for a bunch
of reasons. I have zero experience of the Pi and still need to buy one.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I need it to:

- connect to 3 wired SB3s and a wireless SB Radio, all sync'd

- play a 200GB FLAC library

- stream internet radio - ideally to include BBC iPlayer (or PlayHLS)

- the Raspberry Pi can be either wired or wireless (would slightly
prefer wired for reliability when syncing)


Questions:

- which Pi version to buy? The lastest Pi 4? Or a cheaper Pi 3 B+? Or
something else?

- is there a beginners guide to get me going? I don't even know which
operating system to use! I am used to Windows and DOS (! - remember
that?)



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