Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 55, Issue 5
I agree completely with Richard, except for one thing: the opening dialogue as one is installing the update still says ``...off of...''. Sheesh. I may be a curmudgeon, but why continue to rile me for years? ``...off... will do, is standard English, and will allow me to relax my hackles (assuming I have them). Please. On 3-Apr-08, at 7:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Marriott wrote: I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that the runrev.com web site looks a bit different in the last couple of hours. ... In other news, Revolution 2.9 is live. Congrats to the team on both front. The web site looks great, with many improvements in both usability and aesthetics. And v2.9 - what can I say, it may well be the best release ever. Thanks! -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Congratulations!
Thanks Kevin, Mark, Bill and All at Runrev for all the 2.9 fixes. Very helpfull in about developping Rev apps for our customers ;-) Kind Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 3 avr. 08 à 22:59, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi! I'd like to congratulate the RunRev team with the release of 2.9! Revolution 2.9 is definitely the best release ever. Thank you RunRev, for your commitment to make your product better. You have been very succesful. Not every bug has been fixed, in fact there are more bug reports than ever, but I am sure that's because people feel their bug reports are taken seriously now and feel encouraged to report more bugs. The new website also looks great and I very much like the story about Revolution at NASA, which is on the front page. Thanks for making my professional life as a programmer a little easier. Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: combox borders in Linux/Gnome
Richard Gaskin a écrit : Under Ubunto/Gnome, combobox controls in v2.9 always have a heavy 2-pixel border, regardless what I set the borderwidth to. Anyone know a workaround to get them to have a more convention look under Gnome? Personally, I disabled the GTK Emulation UI of Runrev in my apps on Linux. I am using instead the Windows 95 look and feel with the Windows 2000 color scheme. (Look better than the actual GTK support, and works!). Maybe in Revolution 2.10 we will have a native GTK Revolution UI. (Rev 2.9 is the first linux version of Revolution that works fine. Rev 1.x worked but was buggy and remember Rev 2.2 that did not start at all!) Regards, Damien ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: System requirements?
On 4/4/08 01:28, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modern versions of Linux Right - what does that mean? Are there limitations with specific window managers, or specific versions of them? I'm releasing a pubic beta of my first Linux version of one of my products, and I'm finding myself using some very flexible language to describe where people can expect it to work. ;) Its in chapter 1 of the manual, which is available within the product or under Support - Documentation on the web site. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where do I get the full setup for 2.9, when updating?
Hello, http://www.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ Le 4 avr. 08 à 11:12, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : perhaps a dummy question. I have updated my 2.8 installation to 2.9. Now I would like to archive the 2.9 setup in case I need it later again for a new machine or sth. like that. The update updated my installation, but didn't saved the setup anywhere. How do I get it? Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
to Jaque and Sarah just one more modification: numeric if you do the reverse sort the way it on eleven lines the word one to eleven on each then it returns: eleven ten one nine eight seven six five four three two if you add numeric it works correctly like in: function reverseList pList put the number of lines in pList into tCount sort lines of pList numeric by mySort() return pList end reverseList then it returns eleven ten nine eight seven six five four three two one So whatever the inner working of this algorithm without numeric it does not sort numerically on the number passed So for me without numeric it returns the wrong sort order if using more than ten lines. This could be possibly very confusing to detect. fwiw bernd Sarah Reichelt-2 wrote: And the winner is... Jacque (with one modification). local tCount function reverseList pList put the number of lines in pList into tCount sort lines of pList by mySort() return pList end reverseList function mySort subtract 1 from tCount return tCount end mySort I had thought that Jacque's must be faster than Jan's because Jan's does more operations per cycle, but it was a bit slower. Then I noticed that Jacque had used sort lines of pList by mySort(each) where Jan had left out the each. Deleting the each from Jacque's function made it the fastest. Fractionally faster than Jan's, it takes about 2/3 of the time of Mark's solution using arrays, and it way faster than the string method. Thanks everyone - fun and instructive :-) Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Reversing-a-list-tp16466585p16489681.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Where do I get the full setup for 2.9, when updating?
Hello, perhaps a dummy question. I have updated my 2.8 installation to 2.9. Now I would like to archive the 2.9 setup in case I need it later again for a new machine or sth. like that. The update updated my installation, but didn't saved the setup anywhere. How do I get it? Thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: Where do I get the full setup for 2.9, when updating?
Thanks Eric, sorry for not searching deep enough :) Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Eric Chatonet Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2008 11:26 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Where do I get the full setup for 2.9, when updating? Hello, http://www.runrev.com/downloads/all-downloads/full-list/ Le 4 avr. 08 à 11:12, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : perhaps a dummy question. I have updated my 2.8 installation to 2.9. Now I would like to archive the 2.9 setup in case I need it later again for a new machine or sth. like that. The update updated my installation, but didn't saved the setup anywhere. How do I get it? Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Hi Joe, I just compiled a Classic Standalone using 2.9.0 with my very small HC stack (56k) that suddenly grew to 2.2 MB, and when transferred to a Mac G4 running 9.2.2, it produces an error dialog that says it cannot be opened due to a type -199 error. The file size increase is of course due to the inclusion of resources necessary to create a standalone app. The -199 error... if memory serves right, negative numbers are disk errors. How did you transfer the file to Classic? Perhaps the resource fork didn't make it through properly. I was able to create a Classic standalone on my Intel MacBook and copied it to an old iMac over the network... worked fine. - Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reversing a list
Sarah Reichelt wrote: And the winner is... and jolly well done to Jacque! HOWEVER, what naive types like me would like to know are: 1. How did you time these routines ? For the sake of argument, I hardly had time to take a gulp of coffee before mine was done: presumably you don't do timings in gulps, semi-gulps, demi-semi-gulps and so on. 2. Although it is very clever (I, for one, had a bit of fun having a try) to write a routine that reverses a list a few demi-semi-gulps faster than another, until we are all using super computers to find out the question for 42 (pace Douglas Adams) I wonder why those few micro-gulps really might matter ? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Searching the script
Hi all, When I search the script and get several hits, some scripts open when I double-click on the line, others don't. Is there something I'm missing? Bruce ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
HOWEVER, what naive types like me would like to know are: 1. How did you time these routines ? I built a test list of 5000 lines, then stored the millisecs, ran the reversing routine and checked the difference between the current millisecs and the stored millisecs. 2. Although it is very clever (I, for one, had a bit of fun having a try) to write a routine that reverses a list a few demi-semi-gulps faster than another, until we are all using super computers to find out the question for 42 (pace Douglas Adams) I wonder why those few micro-gulps really might matter ? My original routine took almost 2 seconds to reverse a list of about 5000 lines on a fast computer. While not too critical, this was enough to make the program feel unresponsive. Even if I had decided to accept this, what if in the future, my list had grown to 20,000 lines. Then I would be looking at a delay of 8 seconds after a click. While computers keep getting faster, you have to allow for data getting larger too. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
Hi Sarah, Did you also check what happens with the speed when the amount of data increases? I wonder whether arrays get faster or slower relative to repeat loops, when you multiple the amount of data by 10 several times. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-apr-2008, om 13:52 heeft Sarah Reichelt het volgende geschreven: I built a test list of 5000 lines, then stored the millisecs, ran the reversing routine and checked the difference between the current millisecs and the stored millisecs. snip ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reversing a list
Sarah Reichelt wrote: this was enough to make the program feel unresponsive and all along I thought the answer was to show the end-users an inane animated GIF image while the processing happens :) at least it stops the 6 year-olds I teach from over-dosing on mouse-clicks! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
Hi Richmond, When a program is unresponsive, animated gifs are stopped. Le 4 avr. 08 à 14:30, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : Sarah Reichelt wrote: this was enough to make the program feel unresponsive and all along I thought the answer was to show the end-users an inane animated GIF image while the processing happens :) Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Plugins and tutorials for Revolution: http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.9 and wmv video?
Hello I am testing 2.9 and have read that 2.8 couldn't, but 2.9 should be able to play wmv videos. What I have tried is to go with the play command, not with the player object. I deselected load quicktime at startup in the rev preferences, put set the dontuseqt to true in the preopenstack handler and tried to play videoClip foo.wmv at 100,100. Nothing happened, just nothing. Anything I forgot? Any experiences, any ideas? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 and wmv video?
On Apr 4, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello I am testing 2.9 and have read that 2.8 couldn't, but 2.9 should be able to play wmv videos. What I have tried is to go with the play command, not with the player object. I deselected load quicktime at startup in the rev preferences, put set the dontuseqt to true in the preopenstack handler and tried to play videoClip foo.wmv at 100,100. Nothing happened, just nothing. I use a player object, plus dontuseQT. sims ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 and wmv video?
HI Tiemo Play videoclip is for imported movies. You can refer to imported movied by using the videoclip object. To play a file, simple refer to the file path only: play foo.wmv (if foo.wmv is in the default folder). Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info On 4 apr 2008, at 15:04, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello I am testing 2.9 and have read that 2.8 couldn't, but 2.9 should be able to play wmv videos. What I have tried is to go with the play command, not with the player object. I deselected load quicktime at startup in the rev preferences, put set the dontuseqt to true in the preopenstack handler and tried to play videoClip foo.wmv at 100,100. Nothing happened, just nothing. Anything I forgot? Any experiences, any ideas? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Hi Bill, I copied the new Classic standalone to a USB Zip Drive and then reconnected the drive to the G4, in turn copying the file to the G4. I hadn't refined the app very much with its own icon, etc. Just used all the default settings. But thanks, this gives me something to keep in mind as I go forward. In order to get a truly valid comparison in file size, I should create an HC standalone, which, obviously, for like reasons would be much larger. Joe Wilkins On Apr 4, 2008, at 2:54 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Hi Joe, I just compiled a Classic Standalone using 2.9.0 with my very small HC stack (56k) that suddenly grew to 2.2 MB, and when transferred to a Mac G4 running 9.2.2, it produces an error dialog that says it cannot be opened due to a type -199 error. The file size increase is of course due to the inclusion of resources necessary to create a standalone app. The -199 error... if memory serves right, negative numbers are disk errors. How did you transfer the file to Classic? Perhaps the resource fork didn't make it through properly. I was able to create a Classic standalone on my Intel MacBook and copied it to an old iMac over the network... worked fine. - Bill ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Apple Text Box
On Apr 3, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi: I mean — The box you get when you type cmd-T in TextEdit. It shows all the fonts and families and other font style stuff and also has a convenient slider for Text size. as Stephen Barncard wrote. I'm getting the impression that it's not possible, or at least not feasible for me. Not to mention that Revolution doesn't currently support the full set of Mac typography features available from the Text box--things like drop shadow, kerning, double underlining and strikethrough. So many of the features in the text selector box wouldn't be usable. That said, I'd love to see these features and the text selector box available in Revolution. But not before we get...[fill in your favorite feature here.] ;-) Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reversing a list
Eric Chatonet wrote: When a program is unresponsive, animated gifs are stopped. That is why on big chewers I use an inane static image :) and, would be grateful if you could all look at my latest version of 'Textifier' - complete with inane static image. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Hi Jim and Mark, I must be missing something very simple, but I don't find the trick. When using the player object, just nothing happens, a mov in the same folder is being played fine with the same statements (beside set dontuseqt to true/false). When using plain play, a small audio knack is being heard, but no video is seen. (same with a mov) To be on the safe side with the default folder I referred with the whole path C:/.../foo.wmv to the file Any other thoughts what I could be missing? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mark Schonewille Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2008 15:16 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: 2.9 and wmv video? HI Tiemo Play videoclip is for imported movies. You can refer to imported movied by using the videoclip object. To play a file, simple refer to the file path only: play foo.wmv (if foo.wmv is in the default folder). Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz A large collection of scripts for HyperCard, Revolution, SuperCard and other programming languages can be found at http://runrev.info ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
On Apr 4, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jim and Mark, I must be missing something very simple, but I don't find the trick. When using the player object, just nothing happens, a mov in the same folder is being played fine with the same statements (beside set dontuseqt to true/false). Download http://www.ezpzapps.com/WMV_Test.rev.zip It is a simple card with one button that opens another card which has a player and some btns. Select a WMV to play. With this test app you can select a WMV file to play then start it. If you use the stop button it seems to run into the issue that Gaskin wrote about and will refuse to run again until you restart the test app. I *think* that was a currentTime issue. All I did with this app is to try and confirm that you can play WMV files - playback controls are a whole different issue. This test works here. sims ClipaSearch Pro http://www.ClipaTools.com Across Platforms - Code and Culture http://www.ezpzapps.com/blog/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Hi Jim, testing your stack, also nothing happens, just nothing is played. So there must be another parameter depending perhaps on the setup of the PC, Quicktime, or sth. else. I even rebooted my machine (XP SP2, QT 7, Rev 2.9), but without success. I remember that I have seen my WMV video for a short time while testing in the last hours, but can't remember with which parameters and didn't succeeded to reproduce the playing of my wmv. I have to get off now and will go on testing tomorrow. Thanks for your assistance Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jim Sims Gesendet: Freitag, 4. April 2008 19:45 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: 2.9 and wmv video? On Apr 4, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jim and Mark, I must be missing something very simple, but I don't find the trick. When using the player object, just nothing happens, a mov in the same folder is being played fine with the same statements (beside set dontuseqt to true/false). Download http://www.ezpzapps.com/WMV_Test.rev.zip It is a simple card with one button that opens another card which has a player and some btns. Select a WMV to play. With this test app you can select a WMV file to play then start it. If you use the stop button it seems to run into the issue that Gaskin wrote about and will refuse to run again until you restart the test app. I *think* that was a currentTime issue. All I did with this app is to try and confirm that you can play WMV files - playback controls are a whole different issue. This test works here. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Jim, testing your stack, also nothing happens, just nothing is played. snip Download http://www.ezpzapps.com/WMV_Test.rev.zip It is a simple card with one button that opens another card which has a player and some btns. Select a WMV to play. With this test app you can select a WMV file to play then start it. If you use the stop button it seems to run into the issue that Gaskin wrote about and will refuse to run again until you restart the test app. I *think* that was a currentTime issue. All I did with this app is to try and confirm that you can play WMV files - playback controls are a whole different issue. Has anyone else tested WMV playback (with or without the test stack I refer to above)? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Bill, I copied the new Classic standalone to a USB Zip Drive and then reconnected the drive to the G4, in turn copying the file to the G4. You probably lost the resource fork in the transfer. The solution is to zip the app first in OS X, then copy it to the thumb drive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Hi Sims and others, I'm currently working on a project that depends on playing WMV's without QuickTime/Flip4Mac in player objects (rather than videoClip objects). On my MacBook, running Windows, I have no serious problems, except that the movie is often displayed in an area smaller than the player, with black areas to the top end right. On my very old PC, I only got sound, no picture. After doing several tests, some of which in Windows Media Payer, I was eventually able to play WMV files that I couldn't play before. I am not sure that the problem is caused by Revolution. It might be Media Player, Windows or my graphics cards. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-apr-2008, om 20:25 heeft Jim Sims het volgende geschreven: Has anyone else tested WMV playback (with or without the test stack I refer to above)? sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Jim Sims wrote: Download http://www.ezpzapps.com/WMV_Test.rev.zip It is a simple card with one button that opens another card which has a player and some btns. Select a WMV to play. ... Has anyone else tested WMV playback (with or without the test stack I refer to above)? I haven't used your test stack, but I have one of my own that I sent to a client and one of his team members as a standalone. It simply sets the dontUseQT to true on startup, then lets the user select and play a WMV as does yours. All three of us can play WMVs with this stack without issue. The stack was built with 2.9b6, IIRC, and I haven't had occasion to test since so I can't speak with confidence on GM1. That said, I don't believe any further changed were made to Windows video support since the version I last used, so I would imagine the behavior has not changed in the final shipping v2.9. I have found WMV files come in a wide variety of codec formats, so the first thing I would try is to verify that the file plays well in WMP. If it does, the second thing I would try is to verify that dontUseQT is set to true before the filename of the player is set to the WMV file. If both of those are in order and it still doesn't play, please let me know and also file a report on it. TIA - -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Mark Schonewille wrote: On my very old PC, I only got sound, no picture. After doing several tests, some of which in Windows Media Payer, I was eventually able to play WMV files that I couldn't play before. I am not sure that the problem is caused by Revolution. It might be Media Player, Windows or my graphics cards. In the Read Me that used to accompany the old MetaCard installation, Scott Raney wrote: MetaCard is very good at exposing bugs in the drivers for graphics cards. These problems seem to be most frequent in Windows 98, but can plague any Windows system. The most common symptom are images or cursors that draw in the wrong colors or with the mask and data reversed, and bits of windows left on the screen when they are closed or moved. Be sure you have the latest drivers from the vendor of your graphics card. If the problem still exists with those, try turning acceleration to its lowest level. If that doesn't fix the problem (or even if it does), please report this bug to the vendor of your graphics card. When I first read that opening line I thought, What an arrogant SOB, since my customers are reporting that all of their other apps work fine but the one I built with MetaCard! But in working through these issues with my customers, I found that everything else works fine usually means the only other apps they're using are Microsoft apps, and for years the APIs MS used internally were not always the ones they publish for other developers so they don't make a good comparison. But moreover, I found that when I was able to get the customers to update to the latest drivers for their video card, in 99% of the cases the issue went away. So in the end I have to admit that Dr. Raney was right: the engine is indeed very good at exposing bugs in the drivers for graphics cards. :) That's not always the answer, but updating drivers to the latest versions will at least rule out the possibility, allowing you to investigate other options with greater confidence. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Hi Jacqi, Didn't get the -199 error, but couldn't find the application that created it, so wouldn't open. After transferring the zipped file to my G4, I unzipped it with the Stuffit Expander. Should I have used something else? Thanks, Joe Wilkins On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:46 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Bill, I copied the new Classic standalone to a USB Zip Drive and then reconnected the drive to the G4, in turn copying the file to the G4. You probably lost the resource fork in the transfer. The solution is to zip the app first in OS X, then copy it to the thumb drive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.co ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
update to 2.9? --
Whenever I update RunRev to a new version all of my database connection scripts stop working. This time I can't even get SQLite to connect in the Database query builder (although it appeared to work at first). What I need is a very simple SQLite connection test. I need to know if somehow my install of RunRev 2.9 is corrupted somewhere (I have notice other symptoms -- editing a script and then trying it requires two tries before it works -- you edit, compile, try it and nothing happens and then try again and it works). Also the Database Query builder connection window is changed but the documentation does not have a simple picture of the correct way to fill it out. I assume user name and password is unnecessary and database name is the same as the one you pointed to in host. I have tried many combinations of ways to fill it out and when I hit the connect button nothing happens. For a while I got an error message check your connection fields now nothing happens or sometimes just a crash of RunRev. I'm have spent the last five hours reading documentation and looking for answers and trying everything. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Jacqi, Didn't get the -199 error, but couldn't find the application that created it, so wouldn't open. After transferring the zipped file to my G4, I unzipped it with the Stuffit Expander. Should I have used something else? That should have worked. But if you are getting a message that the OS can't find the application that created it, that means the OS doesn't recognize the file as an application. Usually that means the creator and type codes aren't set right. In the Standalone Settings dialog, you need to make sure that the document type is set to APPL. The Creator signature can be a code you've registered with Apple, or (for your own use) any 4-character code you invent, or you can just leave it as the default . Set those and try rebuilding. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Hi Jacqi, Still struggling with this thing. Actually, I decided to make a Classic Standalone of a Rev stack instead of an HyperCard stack that was converted; just to see if there is a difference. My problem right now is that my mind is too fragmented - not doing some stuff I should be doing instead of playing around with Rev. I'm sure I'll solve this eventually. There was a problem with my document type. I just don't program often enough to keep all this stuff in my RAM. Thanks for the guidance. Joe Wilkins On Apr 4, 2008, at 1:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Jacqi, Didn't get the -199 error, but couldn't find the application that created it, so wouldn't open. After transferring the zipped file to my G4, I unzipped it with the Stuffit Expander. Should I have used something else? That should have worked. But if you are getting a message that the OS can't find the application that created it, that means the OS doesn't recognize the file as an application. Usually that means the creator and type codes aren't set right. In the Standalone Settings dialog, you need to make sure that the document type is set to APPL. The Creator signature can be a code you've registered with Apple, or (for your own use) any 4-character code you invent, or you can just leave it as the default . Set those and try rebuilding. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QT External question
Hello, I am using the QT external and I am having problems understanding why on a XP I get the desired size (640X480) but on OS X I don't (320X224). The parameter line is straight forward and is. qtSetTrackDimensions lPreviewID, 1,640,480 The only thing I noticed on OS X is that when using QT's Show Movie Inspector it shows Apple MPEG4 Decompressor? I have no plugins other than what would have been loaded with QT. As I mentioned it works fine on XP. As usual any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance, ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Data Storage
Greetings! If I'm using Revolution standalones on a series of clients, and I want to store semi-large to large amounts of data on a server and allow multiple users access to this data simultaneously, is my ONLY choice MySQL - on a server that allows remote SQL data access? Are there any other options? Thank you in advance, -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: 2.9 and wmv video?
Hi Sims, play player z is incorrect syntax. It should be start player 1 You don't have a videoClip object in your stack but a player object. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-apr-2008, om 19:44 heeft Jim Sims het volgende geschreven: Download http://www.ezpzapps.com/WMV_Test.rev.zip It is a simple card with one button that opens another card which has a player and some btns. Select a WMV to play. With this test app you can select a WMV file to play then start it. If you use the stop button it seems to run into the issue that Gaskin wrote about and will refuse to run again until you restart the test app. I *think* that was a currentTime issue. All I did with this app is to try and confirm that you can play WMV files - playback controls are a whole different issue. This test works here. sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reversing a list
hi Mark if you fill up a field with like a button script like this: on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo put A,B,C,D into trandomChar set the numberformat to # put 0 into tCounter repeat 9 add 1 to tCounter put any item of trandomChar tCountera longer text to see the difference between short and longn text on the time it takes to reverse the order of a field return after tCollector end repeat delete last char of tCollector put tCollector into field 1 end mouseUp it creates a line of text in my view representative of an average line of text: D 1 a longer text to see the difference between short and longn text on the time it takes to reverse the order of a field and if you compare arrays like (Mark Schonewille) -- on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo put the millisec into tStart put field 1 into temp put reverseList(temp) into temp2 put temp2 into field 1 put the millisec - tStart end mouseUp private function reverseList theListArray split theListArray by cr combine theListArray by cr and tab sort lines of theListArray numeric descending by item 1 of each split theListArray by column return theListArray[2] end reverseList -- it takes for 100.000 time 1800 millisecs on a macBook Pro 2.33 for an adapted Jaques/Jan solution (same field with 100.000 lines, same computer): --- local tCount on mouseUp put the millisec into tStart put the number of lines of field 1 into tCount sort field 1 numeric by mySort() put the millisec - tStart end mouseUp private function mySort subtract 1 from tCount return tCount end mySort --- it takes about 850 millisecs 1800 millisecs versus 850 is a huge amount of time for the user (a lot of gulps, by the way: what is the standard gulp anyway?, I know how to transform the Percentage of the maximum velocity of sheep in a vacuum: http://www.theregister.co.uk/Design/page/reg-standards-converter.html#velocity , but you would have to submit the gulb as a distinct and defined unit of time :- Allright, I added private to the function which is only availabel to rev = 2.8.1. it saves about 50 milliseconds. So the solution proposed by Jaque and Jan is definitely faster and, provided you add numeric, just as correct. regards Bernd Richmond Mathewson wrote: Sarah Reichelt wrote: And the winner is... and jolly well done to Jacque! HOWEVER, what naive types like me would like to know are: 1. How did you time these routines ? For the sake of argument, I hardly had time to take a gulp of coffee before mine was done: presumably you don't do timings in gulps, semi-gulps, demi-semi-gulps and so on. 2. Although it is very clever (I, for one, had a bit of fun having a try) to write a routine that reverses a list a few demi-semi-gulps faster than another, until we are all using super computers to find out the question for 42 (pace Douglas Adams) I wonder why those few micro-gulps really might matter ? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Inbox http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Reversing-a-list-tp16494644p16505535.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Data Storage
Not at all! for starters: OPEN SOURCE: PostGreSQL http://www.postgresql.org/ FAST: Valentinahttp://www.paradigmasoft.com/ Greetings! If I'm using Revolution standalones on a series of clients, and I want to store semi-large to large amounts of data on a server and allow multiple users access to this data simultaneously, is my ONLY choice MySQL - on a server that allows remote SQL data access? Are there any other options? Thank you in advance, -Dan -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Testing from gMail
This is a test, please ignore... seeing if I see it on the lists... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Data Storage
I read that Valentina is a single user database. From page 251 of the Revolution user guide: Valentina is a fast, efficient single-user database engine for Mac OS X, and Windows systems. I went to Valentina's web site, but yicks! I can't make heads or tails out of any of it! -Dan Not at all! for starters: OPEN SOURCE: PostGreSQL http://www.postgresql.org/ FAST: Valentinahttp://www.paradigmasoft.com/ Greetings! If I'm using Revolution standalones on a series of clients, and I want to store semi-large to large amounts of data on a server and allow multiple users access to this data simultaneously, is my ONLY choice MySQL - on a server that allows remote SQL data access? Are there any other options? Thank you in advance, -Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Gmail and these lists
I won't be able to read this... please reply off list... Anyone else using Gmail? How do you get Gmail to allow you to receive your own posts? Gmail is currently blocking any email with matching To and From fields... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Gmail and these lists
On Apr 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I won't be able to read this... please reply off list... Anyone else using Gmail? How do you get Gmail to allow you to receive your own posts? Gmail is currently blocking any email with matching To and From fields... Looking at another post gives me an idea. Perhaps if you send to yourself as well as the list that will make the to and from fields be different? If I'm right, you'll get this message twice. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: update to 2.9? --
I re-installed RunRev from scratch. I tested SQLite using the demo stack and found that it works fine. I tried the database query builder (using that same test stack) and absolutely no joy. Why is the database query builder included in RunRev if it cannot be made to work? It is meant to be for ease of use? I have tried every possible parameter of connection in the little database query builder window (including those that work in earlier versions of RunRev) and nothing works. Has anybody else gotten database query builder to work in RunRev 2.9? Perhaps there is a pref file somewhere that I need t delete? This is really extremely frustrating especially when you consider that the database query builder is meant to be for ease of use. I wish I had never ever used the database query builder in any of my stacks. Now it looks like I should re-write everything ignoring that menace. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM, william humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whenever I update RunRev to a new version all of my database connection scripts stop working. This time I can't even get SQLite to connect in the Database query builder (although it appeared to work at first). What I need is a very simple SQLite connection test. I need to know if somehow my install of RunRev 2.9 is corrupted somewhere (I have notice other symptoms -- editing a script and then trying it requires two tries before it works -- you edit, compile, try it and nothing happens and then try again and it works). Also the Database Query builder connection window is changed but the documentation does not have a simple picture of the correct way to fill it out. I assume user name and password is unnecessary and database name is the same as the one you pointed to in host. I have tried many combinations of ways to fill it out and when I hit the connect button nothing happens. For a while I got an error message check your connection fields now nothing happens or sometimes just a crash of RunRev. I'm have spent the last five hours reading documentation and looking for answers and trying everything. -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Gmail and these lists
I use gmail and I can see my own posts. In fact I think I may be the only one that can see them... On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Colin Holgate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 4, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: I won't be able to read this... please reply off list... Anyone else using Gmail? How do you get Gmail to allow you to receive your own posts? Gmail is currently blocking any email with matching To and From fields... Looking at another post gives me an idea. Perhaps if you send to yourself as well as the list that will make the to and from fields be different? If I'm right, you'll get this message twice. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Gmail and these lists
William, can you resend your message, it didn't show up? Just kidding ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT External question
Maybe Apple's compressor is overiding the window size? Try another compressor and see what happens. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Classic Standalone with 2.9.0
Well, if anyone else has been able to make a Classic standalone, either from a new Rev Stack or from a HC stack that has been opened as a Rev Stack, I'd sure like to hear about it. On my Mac Pro Running Leopard and G4 running OS 9.2.2 I have not been able to achieve it. On my last efforts, the unzipped files did not even show an application Icon, though I did have the APPL and file types set. The Universal Binary versions worked fine on the Mac Pro and showed the appropriate icons. Prior to zipping the two apps I tried, when double clicking them, they were recognized as Classic apps. I suppose the problem has to be in the transfer, but I've had no problems with other application and document transfers made in this same way. A little discouraging. Joe Wilkins On Apr 4, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Jacqi, Still struggling with this thing. Actually, I decided to make a Classic Standalone of a Rev stack instead of an HyperCard stack that was converted; just to see if there is a difference. My problem right now is that my mind is too fragmented - not doing some stuff I should be doing instead of playing around with Rev. I'm sure I'll solve this eventually. There was a problem with my document type. I just don't program often enough to keep all this stuff in my RAM. Thanks for the guidance. Joe Wilkins On Apr 4, 2008, at 1:06 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Jacqi, Didn't get the -199 error, but couldn't find the application that created it, so wouldn't open. After transferring the zipped file to my G4, I unzipped it with the Stuffit Expander. Should I have used something else? That should have worked. But if you are getting a message that the OS can't find the application that created it, that means the OS doesn't recognize the file as an application. Usually that means the creator and type codes aren't set right. In the Standalone Settings dialog, you need to make sure that the document type is set to APPL. The Creator signature can be a code you've registered with Apple, or (for your own use) any 4-character code you invent, or you can just leave it as the default . Set those and try rebuilding. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Gmail and these lists
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Sivakatirswami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't be able to read this... please reply off list... Anyone else using Gmail? How do you get Gmail to allow you to receive your own posts? Gmail is currently blocking any email with matching To and From fields... I use gmail and I do not receive new copies of my posts, but they are all in Sent Mail. When a reply arrives, my original is inserted into the thread, so it's easy to follow. Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
