Severe crash with Rev 2.8.1 under MacOSX 10.4.9 (was: How to find amazing stuff)
May be the crash Joe reported is NOT due to the RR Search engine!!! Read more... This afternoon I have experienced two unexpectedly exits from Revolution and I restarted my machine. And then I had a very severe crash during a normal development session. I had no problem under Rev 2.7.4 for the same business. Before the crash the only unusual thing I made is printing a few cards and the print actually occured. But then when I exited Revolution the session has unexpectedly closed and I spent much time to be able to restart MacOSX (10.4.9 PPC). The Preview application was the only one opened apart from Revolution (and Finder of course) and I have not worked with any other applications during this user session. If some other one experienced such a behavior, think about filling a bug before some catastrophic event happens... with 2.8.1. Joel I just tried the Search Engine you mentioned. There appears to be a very serious flaw to the Search engine - causing Revolution to unexpectedly quit and probably doing other damage as well, since my only recourse was to reboot. Even the dock was unresponsive. If I tried to reopen Rev, it appeared to reopen with the startup Rev Splash screen, but then was nowhere to be found. I realize I'm not being very specific, but this all was caused (twice) by clicking in the small black (color selection) box that appears in the upper right portion of the Search results window, the one that says it lets you select a color for keywords. As soon as the color selection dialog appeared and I attempted to change the color, Rev quit and the other things I mention occurred requiring that I reboot. Just thought you'd like to know, since you say you wrote that part of the docs. I'm running Rev 2.8.1 on OS 10.4.9 with an Intel Mac Dual Core. The first time it happened I had Isolator 1.0 turned on. The second time, I did not. Neither time did I have any other applications open; running Safari as the web browser. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
exporting snapshot with cursor visible?
is there a way to make the cursor visible on the image with the export snapshot with rect command? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution 2.8.1: a 240+ bug fixes/improvements! What about the remaining 1879?
Dear Revolutionists, A warm thank you very much to Runrev for having fixed more than 240 bugs. I would like to know how successfull is the open beta and what criterion have been defined at the beginning of the quality way last November. It would be interested to get the results of the last open beta anonymous survey. With my background in scientific research let me try to present formally known data about Revolution bugs and make some comments carefully: MOTIVATIONS AND OBJECTIVES: - I have personally reported major or blocking bugs still unresolved nor closed (even more than a year old). - Respectable persons were unfairly flamed for having objectively and politely requested about the quality work and to understand procedures transparently (that's ISO 9xxx quality management procedures, isn't it?). - Public declarations, apologizes and/or promises not to repeat *exceptional* unhappy events from Runrev appeared to me a different story from facts reported by the rev-list and experiences. - Actually I want to get a better picture of what's really the gain of the current quality step initiated by Runrev and then the future I can expect for my favorite IDE. METHOD: - Queries done today (2007-05-17) with the most recent version of stack STSRevZilla. RESULT: - At the time of the queries RevZilla found that 1879 bugs are neither resolved, nor closed: 580 are new, the oldest one was created on 2003-10-28 129 are pending, the oldest one was created on 2003-10-24 1079 are new, the oldest one was created on 2003-06-16 53 are assigned, most are enhancement requests, 2 are major, 1 minor, one norma, the oldest one was created on 2003-06-24 37 are reopened, oldest created on 2003-08-12 1 is verified, created on 2005-06-15. - RevZilla found that 3067 bugs are either resolved or closed: 2729 bugs are marked resolved. 338 bugs are marked closed. - Among the 1879 bugs that are neither resolved, nor closed today: 227 has severity of blocker, critical or major (126 bugs before 2006-11-10 and 103 bugs reported during the open beta process). 821 has severity enhancement. - The Open Community Beta for 2.7.5 has been annonced on November 10th 2006 (http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue13/ newsletter1.php). - the first bug notified on 2006-11-10 is #3967 (concerning version 2.6.1 it is now resolved/closed). - the first bug notified on 2006-11-10 for version 2.7.5 is #3968 (now closed/not a bug). - since this opening date 1013 bugs have been notified and categorized as followed: 345 bugs have been notified (created) and resolved. 85 bugs have been notified and closed. 584 bugs have been notified but still neither resolved nor closed. COMMENTS: - Remember that some of the bugs notified in revzilla are enhancement requests. - Out of the 1879 remainging reported bugs 584 of them has been reported after the beginning of the open beta, i.e. 1295 bugs reported prior the beta are still uncovered. - It is surprising that as many as 227 bugs marked as blocker, critical or major have not been processed during this quality step. 45% of them have been reported during the open beta process (126 of them were known prior the begining of the open beta and 103 has been reported during the process). - Because stsRevzilla does not let us search the date a bug is closed or resolved then it is simply difficult to compare the results above with the past state of November 2006. This comparison would have been interested in order to answer if Runrev has actually made a progress and how much of its resources it has spent in fixing new bugs introduced during this Open Beta process. Of course you should study this with care because among the 1013 bugs notified since November some are bugs present but not reported in older releases or new bugs introduced between 2.7.4 and the 2.8.1. Have a look to the list of bugs (since #3967) to make your own opinion on the amount of wasted workload the open beta may have self generated. - So, impossible to know how Runrev count the 240+ bugs fixed. - Also a deeper study would be necessary to evaluate how bugs were prioritized in the fix: is priority choosen by severity, by reporter, by date, by vote count? CONCLUSIONS: I dont want to comment on the success of this Open Community Beta. Of course this is not my job but among the other reasons, by rereading the original newsletter article, the objectives are still imprecise to me. So I let you make your own conclusions, positives and negatives, if applicable for you, and in such a context (this is no scientific way) tightly bound to your own expectations I guess. Just a few remarks: 1.- I am thankful to Runrev for trying to make Revolution better quality and to ensure its future. 2.- I was happy to read so much excitements from major revolutionaries to applaude the 2.8.1 release on both the use and improve lists.
Re: Python Samples stack
I can view it but not go to it. Is this due to being on 2.6.1 Linux? Hi Peter, Is Python installed on your machine? To check that python is installed and to know the command folder path of the python tool type «which python». Also, try a python -V» command (with uppercase for V) in a shell terminal to get the version number. In Revolution you can also execute: answer Is python installed in the $PATH: shell(which python) answer Python version is shell(python -V) If Python is not installed, go to http://www.python.org/download/ it's just easy to proceed. In MacOSX python is installed by default. I use version 2.5 but the stack should work for 2.3 and 2.4. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Python Samples with Tkinter from within Rev
I have shared my stack Python Samples with Tkinter in the Programming category. This stack demonstrates some use of the Python tool called from Revolution with two examples of the Tkinter GUI toolkit. Set the folder for Python tool to the correct one (e.g. under MacOSX: /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin)... Notice that this version display the Python window in modal mod, so you cannot edit stacks before you quit the Python thread. It works fine under MacOSX which has a standard Python tool, others not tested. If you are curious, open the stacks and execute in the msg box: put the uPythonSource of button Test I with python Tkinter GUI or put the uPythonSource of button Test II with python Tkinter GUI to read the Python source code (just 36 lines, respectively 25 lines). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to POST an image file?
Given the following form in an html page from url like http:/ myserver/mydir/mypage: form action=myaction method=post enctype=multipart/form-data pFile: input type=file name=file/p input type=submit /form I try to POST tData to URL http:/myserver/mydir/mypage/myaction where tData contains the following data: -- (this line is not included in data) Content-type: multipart/form-data, boundary=AaB03x --AaB03x content-disposition: form-data; name=file; filename=logo.gif Content-type: image/gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary GIF89a DATA HERE... --AaB03x-- -- (this line is not included in data) Can anyone tell me why I get a 500 server error or a 40x error? Using the original html page in a web browser works as expected and I have checked that it is not a cookie issue. I also tried without success (same error) with the following tData: -- (this line is not included in data) Content-type: multipart/form-data, boundary=AaB03x --AaB03x content-disposition: form-data; name=file Content-type: multipart/mixed, boundary=BbC04y --BbC04y Content-disposition: attachment; filename=decoration.gif Content-type: image/gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary GIF89a DATA HERE... --BbC04y-- --AaB03x-- -- (this line is not included in data) So I suppose either my post url or the data content is/are malformed... Any help welcome! Thanks, Joel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: XML Tree and spaces
Hello Nic, Of course you'll get an answer but please, give an exemple of the xml data and node content you have problem with and the function you use to retrieve its content. Neither in my own use of xml nor by using the Sarah's XML Demo stack (http://www.troz.net/Rev/tutorials/ XMLdemo1.rev.gz)for a rapid check, I was able to reproduce the behavior your mentionned. So please, be more precise... Joel Le 2 mai 07 à 14:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : De : Nic Prioleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] If I create an xml tree and I have spaces in one of the node values, it will only show the first part of the value before the space. Is there anything anyone can tell me here? Am I not allowed to use spaces here? It would seem a bit limiting if I did?! [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
is that a bug?
This expression returns the expected result: selectedNode() is the cEditedNodeID of grp grClassEditor But when exchanging the two operands the following expressions do always return TRUE even with (): the cEditedNodeID of grp grClassEditor is selectedNode() (the cEditedNodeID of grp grClassEditor) is selectedNode() I am absolutely sure of the values returned by both operands and make extensive check for this surprising result. Same result on 2.8.0,370 and 2.7.4,291: Is this a bug? Or can anyone give me some ligth? Thanks JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: shell() in a separate thread with callback message at exit?
Here is an example script that does a ping. The handler includes the post-processing of the result, but you can just ignore that. function checkPing pIP ... put ping -c1 -npIP into tShellCmd put tFileName 21 after tShellCmd Thank you a lot Sarah. Your code let me discover the wait .. with messages which I have never been aware of (the old Hypercard practice?). This can actually do the job I am searching for. Also, your example raises two questions: 1.- Is there somewhere some documentation on synchronous/asynchronos parallel/threaded Transcript execution? I would like to learn about other such great features native in Transcript... 2.- I understand the shell command you wrote up to ping -c1 -n 192.168.0.1 and even the mandatory for executing the shell in a separate thread but I dont understand the 21 . Could you explain? Do you have a good MacOSX/Un*x tutorial on the shell commands? Best to you, Joël___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: shell() in a separate thread with callback message at exit?
What platforms are you supporting? If it is Mac only then I think you can achieve this using an AppleScript and AppleEvents. Let me know and I'll let you have more details. Yes, I would be very pleased to get the details for MacOSX. Also I need to support this feature under Windows but let us start with the Mac solution. Thanks a lot, Joel All the Best Dave On 8 Mar 2007, at 11:20, Joel Guillod wrote: How can I implement the following features: - invoque a shell command in a separate thread, i.e. a non blocking shell during execution of the command; - receive a callback message with the output and the error result when the thread exits? This would be some function similar to the load command, i.e.: shellExecute commandLine [with message callbackMessage] where ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
shell() in a separate thread with callback message at exit?
How can I implement the following features: - invoque a shell command in a separate thread, i.e. a non blocking shell during execution of the command; - receive a callback message with the output and the error result when the thread exits? This would be some function similar to the load command, i.e.: shellExecute commandLine [with message callbackMessage] where The commandLine is a string or an expression that evaluates to a string. The callbackMessage is the name of a message to send after the shell exited. The callbackMessage signature would be: on callbackMessage pCmdOutput,pCmdError,pShellError where - pCmdOutput is the value returned by the shell function, i.e. the result of the sdtout commandLine, including any error messages the commandLine generates. - pCmdError is the error the command generate (sdterr under unix). - pShellError is the shell command's exit code. If I remember well the externals API allows for such threading and callback but I am not a C expert. Could anyone give me refs/pointers to a solution? I need a multiplatform solution. Thanks a lot ! Joël ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: An effective way to Localize my Revolution Projects for Multiple Languages
- Property profiles are nice, but it means that I have to store all of the language data for each object within a profile, making it harder to make changes to the text. Many replies but none commenting about profiles. As the gandfather of Richard used to say, When a designer is faced with two equally compelling options, find a way to do both. So you could also make a tool which assists in building different language profiles from a central text translations repository. The steps in development would be: (1) extracts the relevant text from button label, fields, etc. and store them in the repository; (2) translate the texts in the needed languages; (3) before building your standalone the tool will navigate through all the objects of your stacks to automatically update the appropriate controls properties (button label, text of shared field...); (4) optionally when building a standalone you can choose to discard some profiles; (5) in your standalone some language script library will just have to set the revProfile or call the revSetStackFileProfile / revSetCardProfile / revSetStackProfile commands when user change the language preference. I didn't remember of much use of the Profiles apart the RunRev tutorial on Profiles (precisely illustrated by languages customisation) and I would be interesting to have developers explanations on their use of profiles, not only for languages but for platform specifics (Windows, Linux, OSX), or any other ideas... Thanks! Joel OT follows, just for fun! As for the dialogs I simply change the LABEL of the buttons in the dialogs so Cancel stays cancel OK stays OK etc... in every language. ;o) NO! cancel does not stays cancel in every language: annuler, abbrechen, ... ! OKay? ;o( Does anyone know what ok is the abbreviation of? I heard an explanation that in the old time an american sherif which motherlanguage was french wrote OK on official documents. When someone asked him what this means he replied: oll korrect... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: SQLite and multiuser
I.e. You want invent a bike? :-) ... Use existed bikes? :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com Of course the question was not targeted to a DBMS vendor. And dont be too presomptive because if you search the web on SQLite server you find that there are solutions on the way. Ruslan, I can also return you the question: why did you reinvent the bike? I know one answer: Oracle, MySQL, PostgreSQL are ACID compliant but dont have direct object link... Depending on the trip I prefer to ride a racing bike or a moutain bike! ;-) JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SQLite and multiuser
The SQLite documentation under topic «File Locking And Concurrency» states: «SQLite uses POSIX advisory locks to implement locking on Unix. On windows it uses the LockFile(), LockFileEx(), and UnlockFile () system calls. SQLite assumes that these system calls all work as advertised. If that is not the case, then database corruption can result. One should note that POSIX advisory locking is known to be buggy or even unimplemented on many NFS implementations (including recent versions of Mac OS X) and that there are reports of locking problems for network filesystems under windows. Your best defense is to not use SQLite for files on a network filesystem.» The last sentence clearly demonstrates that SQLite files should not be used on a network. So, I would be pleased to have advices on how to access SQLite database throught network in a multiuser environment. There is one relatively easy implementation scenario I think about: to write a Rev application which works as a SQLite server and to which any client Rev application connects to in order to query the databases. In such a way only the server is dealing with database files and this probably works okay for small network traffic. Any other suggestion for a solution would be welcome. Thanks, JG___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tree
I am very very happy with Tree Manager Tree Field control from http://www.imed-edition.net. At first there are many commands but it is very powerfull and you can develop with only 3 or 4 commands. Since I use Tree Manager I couldn't work without it. The examples stack is also very helpfull, shortens the learning and the script assistant writes most of my code. Joel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1
Alas I think you are true, Bill, I am afraid! I have to agree with you although my work is not as impossible as you report yours. Obviously there is some serious management issue in Runrev which is not a new one... And this is a pity because Revolution concept drives a very productive development environment. And you are true, not taking for serious our bugs we take time to fill (for free, yes!) is reflecting a very bad quality and doubtfull respect against Runrev customers (and yes I dont - or at least I hesitate to - fill bugs since years-old-bugs are still unaddressed. Also these persistent attitudes make flee a lot of the professional developers... I would hate to get the news that Runrev or any other company resigns from continuing to upgrade Revolution. Will version 3 be a new age for a better Revolution? Maybe some EurRevcon members will know soon. I do not want to be too dark and I still have faith in those in Runrev who are actually trying to do their best in order to enhance Revolution. Because, yes, I am confident that there are still people in Runrev who work with pride and for quality... but this is a story I dont have any weight and this is better so. As you, Bill, my own weight is in buying future yearly upgrades. Le 20 oct. 06 à 10:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ... Some of you will say, Bill it would be much more productive if you filed all this in Bugzilla. Well, I'm all for contributing to the community. But it takes time and effort to file a decent bug report. ... I haven't seen action on other serious bugs, and I haven't seen the kind of quality that suggests even casual inspection on the part of Rev's release team. ... Where is the pride in your work product? ... So, when YOU demonstrate some good faith -- releasing a reasonably robust product, and committing to free bug fixes -- then perhaps I will work as your unpaid Quality Assurance Engineer. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cgi function
revSetDatabaseDriverPath... The rev documentation states that : «The revSetDatabaseDriverPath command is part of the Database library. To ensure that the command works in a standalone application, you must include this custom library when you create your standalone.» I have no idea but a need to solve this problem. With rev CGI you only have the engine not a standalone which includes the library. So maybe we have to manually include the revDatabase Library into another stack... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to find which applications for this file?
From a file path or a file extension or a MIME type, how can we get a list of the applications which can open the corresponding file? The launch document filepath can open the corresponding application like a double-click in the Finder/Windows Explorer. But has anyone some tricks to get a list of compatible application for a file or MIME: Applescript (on MacOSX) or shell commands (MacOSX, Windows, Linux)? Thanks for each appropriate reply! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Shells - non-blocking?
On Aug 13, 2006, at 3:30 AM, David Bovill wrote: I want to call the shell command and let the user get on with other gui stuff... wouldn't it be nice to have: put shell(something really slow) with message doneIT ? Very good idea! Do you fill an enhancement in Revzilla? If not I'll do it, let me know... On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:42:35 -0600 , Dar Scott wrote: You might be able to build something like that with processes (see open process etc in the doc). I cannot figure out how to implement that. Have you a sample script? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why do group ID's change when cloning a stack
I agree that in most instances using the name of controls is the best way. BUT there is a **semantic** issue with the current behavior of the clone command because we expect a clone to be an exact copy of the original. Also, the problem of changing the ID especially for images is a nasty one. Suppose you have many groups displaying different images in fields where the imagesource reference the id of images, the result of the clone can be not only surprising but also dangerous if IDs are mixed... (for instance imagine a surgery imaging software which after cloning a stack displays another image instead of the orginal one and ... then you - the patient - awake with amputation of the left leg instead of a back pigmented mole ablation). Due to the semantic trouble of the current cloning way I suggest that Claudi who has found this disturbing behavior fills a bug. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How to save as a 'Legacy Revolution Stack'
How can I force to save as a 'Legacy Revolution Stack' with the save command, i.e. without passing by the save dialog? And how to know if the saved format is 'Legacy Revolution Stack' or 'Revolution Stack'? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why is the imagedata value different from Win32 to MacOS
I don't think the imagedata has changed, and my thought would be to check and make sure the images are set to their respective formattedHeight and formattedWidth BEFORE checking the imageData. ... I hope this helps. -Chipp Not of help... Actually before submitting the question I checked that: - the text of the PNG images were identical on both platform; - the width was set to the formattedWidth and the height to formattedHeight; - the screengamma was identical on both platforms before opening the images; - also I tried to set the screengamma to the gamma of the images. My guess from my investigations is that there is some issue in the algorithm used to calculate the imagedata in the rev engine and which is a function of the screengamma, the image gamma and some obscure stuff... because extreme color channel values (near 0 or near 255) are correct and the differences are bigger when in the middle (near 127). So the gamma correction could be fault. Joel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why is the imagedata value different from Win32 to MacOS platforms?
For image processing I have to extract the RGB values from an imagedata of an image but I got different results under MacOSX and Win32. I found that the imagedata values is different between the two platform: every color component of pixels is slighty changed. I have not found in the documentation such a change depending on the platform. Notice that the text of image is identical between both platform. Could anyone give me a clue? Is there an easy other way to get the exact RGB array on both platforms? Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
System messages order in list field
I notice that the system messages order for list field differs depending on the hilited state of the clickline: case 1: when clicking on a *unhilited* line: mousedown - selectionChanged - mouseUp case 2: when clicking on a *hilited* line: selectionChanged - mousedown - mouseUp Is it a bug or a feature? Is there some explanations on the purpose for such a different order? Joël___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revXMLfindNodecontent
Throw some votes on it if you like :-) Also do it for features request/bug ID 1893: revInsertXMLNode and XSLT routines ID 2809. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revXMLfindNodecontent
Hi Ken, On 3/21/06 10:21 AM, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am currently working through the XML docs and am desparately looking for something llike - revXMLfindNodeBycontent ... Sorry, Klaus, AFAIK you can't find data information with the revXML DLL. Damn!!! What a pity :-/ Hi Mark, please add this one to Rev 2.71, I think there is still time for this and I really need it! ;-) Are you dreaming Klaus? Or do you have preferential treatment from Runrev? If yes, kindly suggest the manager to (censured, I am wasting my time). Actually I filled an enhancement request (#1893) on 2004-07-26 for a revInsertXMLNode treeID,siblingPath,nodeContents and sent a recall on 2005-12-12 but the status is still UNCONFIRMED! So, be patient! I know that I practice medicine but usually not that side! Or build your own externals for xml, xpath, etc. ;o( jg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revInsertXMLNode : Please vote for #1893!
On 2004-07-26 I requested the revInsertXMLNode feature. This enhancement has been assigned to runrev component owner the same day but since 18 months no activity happens! If you work with xml you know that this is a must feature! So please support this feature by voting for «bug» #1893. Thank you all. Joël G. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Applescript execution error under Rev but not Script Editor
The following Applescript does work successfully when run in the
Script Editor but return an execution error when run with «do fld
theScript as Applescript»:
THE SCRIPT:
try
tell application Address Book
activate
set theCard to person id 808C7253-74EA-4619-
BC2D-3D030DEA63D9:ABPerson
tell me to assignPersonToGroup(theCard, Patients)
save addressbook
end tell
on error myError
return myError
end try
on assignPersonToGroup(thePerson, theGroup)
if (theGroup is not equal to ) then
tell application Address Book
set nameOfEveryGroup to name of every group
if nameOfEveryGroup contains theGroup then
set theGroupByID to group named theGroup
add thePerson to theGroupByID
else
set newGroup to make new group with properties
{name:theGroup}
add thePerson to newGroup
end if
end tell
end if
end assignPersonToGroup
THE ERROR:
Impossible de rendre «class azf4» id \808C7253-74EA-4619-
BC2D-3D030DEA63D9:ABPerson\ of application \Address Book\ dans le
type attendu.
translated in english: impossible to render «class azf4» id
\808C7253-74EA-4619-BC2D-3D030DEA63D9:ABPerson\ of application
\Address Book\ in the expected type.
MY QUESTION: Any clue to be able to execute the Applescript also in Rev?
Thanks.
Joël___
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XML Database synchronization
I would like to hear about advices how to address this problem in Revolution: Postulates: - data of my system is based on a number of sets of xml documents; - a set is a repository of xml documents; - there is a registry of the sets which references the address of each set; - to avoid complicated installation on the machines where sets reside (i.e. not Java/python/php based). Wanted functions: - Revolution applications can access (read/write/update) xml documents throught the network; - To be able to synchronize each set (in order to have mirrors sets of the xml documents); - To index each xml document for fast query (xpath, xquery and xupdate in Rev 3, a dream? No a must, definitely!). I am currently using eXist an Open Source Native XML Database (http:// exist-db.org/) but I need to have multiple sets of xml documents somewhere on the net and to be able to synchronize those sets. I will be grateful to read any serious clue from developers actually knowing the topic. JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constrain Within Circle?
Should the ArcadeEngine be optimized for speed from ... Function findAngle ... put abs(x1-x2) into oppositeLeg put abs(y1-y2) into adjacentLeg if adjacentLeg0 then put atan(oppositeleg/adjacentLeg) into alpha put alpha*180/pi into alpha else put 90 into alpha end if switch case x1=x2 and y1=y2 put alpha into foundAngle break case x1=x2 and y1=y2 put 180-alpha into foundAngle break case x1=x2 and y1=y2 put 180+alpha into foundAngle break case x1=x2 and y1=y2 put 360-alpha into foundAngle break end switch return round(foundangle) end findAngle ...to : Function geometry_findAngle ... put x1-x2 into oppositeLeg put y1-y2 into adjacentLeg return atan2(adjacentLeg,oppositeleg)*180/pi+90 -- +90 should be +180 in standard geometry end geometry_findAngle ? Well, this is just a suggestion. For speed and time sparing Revolution is so fast that my solution would probably spare only a fraction of millisec but may be my suggestion could help in code simplicity (3 lines against 23) and therefore maintenance and bytes size, isn't it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Constrain Within Circle?
Hi Malte, My test with the 2 different versions of the function shows a 25% faster with the one using atan2 (test with 1000 and 1 loops, 200 runs)... on a G4/1.67 GHz/RAM 2 Go/Mac OS X 10.4.2. Probably you loose time with testing x1=x2... But you are right one loop was less than one millisecs and may not impair the overall performance. Should the ArcadeEngine be optimized for speed from ... It is. In my test using atan instead of atan2 was a few milliseconds faster. Not too many though. in 350 loops and 50 test runs the atan version was about 70 millisecs faster on a G4 - 400 MHz than the atan2 version. That´s why I chose the longer form. But ... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Magnifying a shrunken image --- without using imageData
Roger, There is a simple solution which is to have a group containing an image. The lockloc of this group should be true, then you dimension the image according to the scale you choose and you set the image location according to the rect of the image you want to display. The container group is performing like a window but you have to set the loc of the image for the portion you want to see. Bonus: You can download my sample stack imedMagnifier in the Rev Online user imed category utility. This is a beta version! Enjoy! Joel G - www.imed.ch From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have an image that is larger than the screenRect. I scale it to fit the window. Now I want to magnify a portion (100x100 pixels) in another image object. The problem is that if I put the text of (a portion of the imageData) into the magnified image, it is VERY pixelized. I need to access the original full resolution image for the magnified area. How can I accomplish this without using an external? Thanks for any suggestions. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Convert ColorNames to RGB
The other way around is harder - you have to script / use a lookup table. Not so hard to build a map between ColorNames and RGB: create a field and name it fColors, then put the following script in the card script and type build in the message box: now the field display for each color a line with: its colorname, a color rectangle, the color value for html, the RGB value. For lazy one, download a ready made stack ColorNames Displayed is available under Revolution online, user imed. Enjoy! Joel G on build set cursor to watch lock screen set the itemdel to tab put empty into fld fColors repeat for each line c in colornames() put c tab tab after fld fColors set the backgroundcolor of char 1 to -1 of item 2 of last line of fld fColors to c put the backgroundcolor of item 2 of last line of fld fColors into tColor put htmlColor(tColor) tab rgbColor(tColor) cr after fld fColors end repeat end build function htmlColor c put # into r repeat for each item i in c get baseconvert(i,10,16) if len(it)=1 then put 0 after r put it after r end repeat return r end htmlColor function rgbColor c return format(%03s,%03s,%03s,item 1 of c,item 2 of c, item 3 of c) end rgbColor ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 23, Issue 74
Mark, I have no idea if you are hired by Runrev to write the API and documentation for the external. So the following should possibly be applied to Runrev. But before filling a blocking bug, let me kindly go on your reply. We stayed tuned since a long while but now I actually need a proper documentation for the SDK and probably that RunRev published all the API. I have hired an engineer for writing specific C externals we use in medical image processing (malignant melanoma screening). Can we make professionnal business with Revolution or should we consider it not for serious? Can you tell us how long we have to wait for clean API externals and documentation? Of course you understand that I cannot pay workers to wait. Because I have been a first days Hypercard/ Supercard/CompileIt! user, I was confident that our development could succeed on Revolution. Now in our development stage we urgently need to integrate our C code in the externals for MacOSX/Windows and Linux in a second step. This month not in October! You could reply that I had to test the external SDK before but this is a marketing issue from Runrev that I have trusted based on their annonced features of Revolution. Also it would be completely unfair (possibly a legal offence) that only restricted or selected developers can make professional business by coding externals properly. The very experienced engineer I hired has just droped me this note about the external SDK: «Considering what they give, it is clear that they do not want that people make externs...». Yes we have been able to build something but we want to do it professionally and safely. I dont want to have my application regularly crashed the way I experiment it with externals I have paid for recently (this is another debate, ok)... Well, I am still entrusting that a robust and documented solution will be published soon. All the Revolution community will benefit from that and this will enable Runrev to grow in consideration of professional developers, simply considering the many external plugins available for other competitors IDE and their success. Today let us know the delay, please! Sincerely, Joel Guillod Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:27:31 -0700 From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joel- Sunday, August 21, 2005, 12:19:31 AM, you wrote: feedback, did I miss something? Is there an other complete documentation for externals? Stay tuned. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Animated gif for OSX progress
You are most welcome, Joel. And Howard, you are not actually stopping the animation which continues in the background. As in the original posting and repeated when uploaded to ssBk Online, set the repeatCount of the image ID to -1 to start the animation and 0 to stop it. On what platform do you run? I still dont see the animation during script execution. Try this on MacOSX 10.4.2: 1.- Put this handler in the script of a card displaying your animation image: on doTheLongProcess pCount repeat with i=1 to pCount put i end repeat end doTheLongProcess 2.- Ensure that the image is animated, i.e. type in the msg box: set the repeatCount of the image X to -1 3.- Type the following in the msg box doTheLongProcess 4000 4.- Here you notice that the msg box displays an increasing value but the image is not animated. Now, do you catch my former question? Or does your own computer display the animation, mine does not... So to allow for the animation to be displayed during the execution of script, I do the following: 1.- Change the above script to: on doTheLongProcess pCount repeat with i=1 to pCount put i animateImg -- this is the fix to allow for the animation to display. end repeat end doTheLongProcess local llast_animate = 0 on animateImg i -- dont do the wait for each iteration of the calling handler since this will slow down the execution: if millisecs()-llast_animate100 then wait 0 millisecs put millisecs() into llast_animate end if end animateImg 2.- Note that calling wait allows for the screen to display. 3.- Dont use a lockscreen or set lockscreen to true in your script because this will prevent the redisplay, of course. That's my proposal. I build a test stack named Display animation process which you find under username imed. It will show you time wasting depending of the settings (animate or not, screen locked or not). JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Uncomplete Externals SDK Documentation
(Sorry I repost it with the correct subject title!) Mark, I have no idea if you are hired by Runrev to write the API and documentation for the external. So the following should possibly be applied to Runrev. But before filling a blocking bug, let me kindly go on your reply. We stayed tuned since a long while but now I actually need a proper documentation for the SDK and probably that RunRev published all the API. I have hired an engineer for writing specific C externals we use in medical image processing (malignant melanoma screening). Can we make professionnal business with Revolution or should we consider it not for serious? Can you tell us how long we have to wait for clean API externals and documentation? Of course you understand that I cannot pay workers to wait. Because I have been a first days Hypercard/ Supercard/CompileIt! user, I was confident that our development could succeed on Revolution. Now in our development stage we urgently need to integrate our C code in the externals for MacOSX/Windows and Linux in a second step. This month not in October! You could reply that I had to test the external SDK before but this is a marketing issue from Runrev that I have trusted based on their annonced features of Revolution. Also it would be completely unfair (possibly a legal offence) that only restricted or selected developers can make professional business by coding externals properly. The very experienced engineer I hired has just droped me this note about the external SDK: «Considering what they give, it is clear that they do not want that people make externs...». Yes we have been able to build something but we want to do it professionally and safely. I dont want to have my application regularly crashed the way I experiment it with externals I have paid for recently (this is another debate, ok)... Well, I am still entrusting that a robust and documented solution will be published soon. All the Revolution community will benefit from that and this will enable Runrev to grow in consideration of professional developers, simply considering the many external plugins available for other competitors IDE and their success. Today let us know the delay, please! Sincerely, Joel Guillod Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:27:31 -0700 From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joel- Sunday, August 21, 2005, 12:19:31 AM, you wrote: feedback, did I miss something? Is there an other complete documentation for externals? Stay tuned. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Uncomplete Externals SDK Documentation
In the RunRevExternalSDK found at: http://downloads.runrev.com/resources/externals/revexternalssdk.zip many features remain undocumented in the Externals stack and the other files. I know this has been a recurring and annoying problem for many years and that a great step has been made last year in the good direction. RunRev is certainly interested to provide all the details for developers who are willing to benefit from the whole power of the externals. Before filling a bug I would like to get your feedback, did I miss something? Is there an other complete documentation for externals? Some of the callback functions not documented or with wrong documentation: GetImageByID GetImageByNum mc_xtclose mc_xtinit ShowImageById ShowImageByName ShowImageByNum X_close X_init X_main_loop X_set_idle_handler X_set_idle_rate X_set_poll_handler X_set_post_poll_handler X_set_post_xevent_handler X_set_pre_xevent_handler X_set_select_handler In advance thank you. Joel G --- «Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.» (Mark Twain) «Seulement une chose est impossible à Dieu : Trouver le moindre sens aux lois de copyright sur la planète.» (Mark Twain) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Animated gif for OSX progress
Thanks for the nice 16x16 24-frame animated gif ! I wonder to know if there is a way in Revolution that animated gif are going to be automatically animated during the execution of a script. This is in fact the reason of your new 'chasing arrows' to show the user that a process is currently running and he should be patient. My solution up to now: 1.- open the animated gif in GraphicConverter 2.- save it as a Quicktime Movie, 3.- add a Player named MyAnim onto your card 4.- in message box type : set the filename of player MyAnim to theQuicktimeMovieFilePath set the looping of player MyAnim to true 5.- then a script sample during which the animation is displayed: on doSomeLongProcess show player MyAnim start player MyAnim here you have some long process to run -- -- change as needed... stop player MyAnim hide player MyAnim end doSomeLongProcess 6.- Of course the animation is not displayed if you set the lockscreen to true in your script. Enjoy and tell me if there is a direct solution with animated gif. Joel G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution filepath to Applescript file: how to?
I am looking for a script to convert a filepath to an Applescript file statement. For example: /Users/toto/Desktop/Image 6.png = file Image 6.png in the folder Desktop in home My current version is as below but it does not deal with files outside the /Users directory. Who can help me? function Applescript_filepathFor pFile set the itemdel to / if offset($HOME,pFile) is 1 then if there is a file pFile then put file q(last item of pFile) into r else put folder q(last item of pFile) into r delete char 1 to len($HOME) of pFile repeat with i=the num of items in pFile -1 down to 2 -- 2 because first item is empty (/...). put in the folder q(item i of pFile) after r end repeat return r in home else throw ERROR: I DONT KNOW HOW TO CONVERT: PARAMS() end Applescript_filepathFor Thanks, jg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution filepath to Applescript file: how to?
Ken , Yes, I would be pleased to get your conversion routine. My problem is that I dont know exactly know how to convert in MacOSX (MacOS9?) from: /Users/toto/Desktop/Image 6.png to: Main HD:Users:toto:Desktop:Image 6.png or from: /Volumes/My Device/toto/Image 6.png to ...? Thanks very much. jg have you considered converting to a :-delimited path for use with AppleScript? For example, your path above, if it was on a hard drive called Main HD would be: file Main HD:Users:toto:Desktop:Image 6.png and AppleScript can use that just as easily. If colon-delimited will work for you, let me know and I'll post my conversion routine. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the type code of a file under OSX
Ken, Why do you bother with the second parameter pType? Just drop it and change the following from: put urlEncode(last item of pFilePath) into tItem delete last item of pFilePath put the directory into tOldDir set the directory to pFilePath if pType = file then put the detailed files into tDetailedList else put the detailed folders into tDetailedList end if to: put there is a file pFilePath into tIsFile -- new script line put urlEncode(last item of pFilePath) into tItem delete last item of pFilePath put the directory into tOldDir set the directory to pFilePath if tIsFile then -- modified script line put the detailed files into tDetailedList else put the detailed folders into tDetailedList end if then the first line of your function is simply: function stsFileInfo pFilePath and that's it! Cheers, Joel [...] on mouseUp answer file Get a file: if it then put stsFileInfo(it,file) into tDocInfoA put tDocInfoA[creatorType] end if end mouseUp If I selected a Word document, this would return MSWDW8BN. -- --| FUNCTION: stsFileInfo --| --| Author: Ken Ray --| Version: 1.0 --| Created: 3/4/04 --| Last Mod: -- --| Requires: -- --| --| Retrieves the file/folder information on a specific file/folder in a parseable array -- function stsFileInfo pFilePath,pType -- supports keys of full,fileName,dataSize,resSize,createDate,modDate,accessDate,BUdate,o wnerID ,groupID,permissions,creatorType,Size set the itemDel to / put urlEncode(last item of pFilePath) into tItem delete last item of pFilePath put the directory into tOldDir set the directory to pFilePath if pType = file then put the detailed files into tDetailedList else put the detailed folders into tDetailedList end if [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Spotlight indexing: feature request proposal
As far as I understand the indexing of stacks by Spotlight (MacOSX), scripts only are used as the text to index. Of course this is of very high value for developers and I am willing this feature. But on the other side it could impair security if the password of the stack has not been set (what I never do, at least during development cycle). Also indexing the content of fields would be also very usefull (even more than scripts for content management stacks). Do you agree? I am considering to fill a request feature in bz and would like to get user's feedback first. So please tell me more what you think about this idea: I propose the addition of two new stack properties for telling Spotlight how to index stacks: - the spotlightScript of this stack: if true the scripts of the stack is indexed by Spotlight. If false, no script indexing is done for the stack. - the spotlightText of this stack: if true the content of fields and titles of objects are indexed by Spotlight. If false, objects content indexing is not done for the stack. By default both properties are true (i.e. when the stack is created). When creating a substack, its spotlight properties are default to the value of its mainstack but they can be changed independantly from the mainstack. Nice to read your coming comments. jg ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting the type code of a file under OSX
Hi Eric, So, I propose another approach: As usual, is this one the last one? :-) [...] function CreatorAndType pFilePath local tDefaultFolder,tFile,tCreatorType - if the platform MacOs then return Error: filetype not supported put the defaultFolder into tDefaultFolder set the itemdel to slash set the defaultFolder to item 1 to -2 of pFilePath put the detailed files into tFile filter tFile with urlEncode(item -1 of pFilePath) ,* set the defaultFolder to tDefaultFolder set the itemDel to comma put item 11 of tFile into tCreatorType if tCreatorType = empty then return Error: could not determine the filetype return char 1 to 4 of tCreatorType,char 5 to 8 of tCreatorType end CreatorAndType This is the function handler I will retain for own my filefolder library: /** @usage local tCreator,tType; if file_getCreatorAndType (pFilePath,@tCreator,@tType) is not empty then @result The returned value will not be empty if the pFilePath file does not exist. Also tCreator and tType will be set to the creator and type of the file pFilePath; when empty, the creator and type are not set for the OS plateform. @version 30.7.2005 - Modified by Joel Guillod from a proposal by Eric Chatonnet. */ function file_getCreatorAndType pFilePath,@pCreator,@pType local tDefaultFolder,tFile, put the defaultFolder into tDefaultFolder set the itemdel to slash set the defaultFolder to item 1 to -2 of pFilePath put the detailed files into tFile set the defaultFolder to tDefaultFolder filter tFile with urlEncode(item - 1 of pFilePath),* if tFile = empty then return Error: could not find file set the itemDel to comma get matchtext(item 11 of tFile,()(),pCreator,pType) end file_getCreatorAndType Remarks: - I dont want to have the handler to rely on one specific platform. So I dont check that the platform MacOs. The result will be empty on not MacOS plateforms and this is safe (or a contract for the result). - The function is intended to extract the file creator and/or type (at least one of both), so not to repeat the char 1 to 4/char 6 to 9 on the result in the calling handle, I propose to directly set the value in the function by passing by reference the pCreator and pType variables. This should save some fractions of millisecs... - ... and better it will be safer for future use: if you call your function and then forget that comma can be in the 4-chars of the creator or type, you could wrote buggy code like: put CreatorAndType(pFilePath) into tct put item 1 of tct into tCreator -- correct is: char 1 to 4 of tct put item 2 of tct into tType -- correct is: char 6 to 9 of tct When working on the Getting the type code of a file under OSX thread, I noticed that the long files function return an empty filetype for TextEdit files (raw text or RTF). FileBuddy reports correctly, Rev not. Could you confirm? Yes I confirm such a behavior. Remember that under MacOSX, not all files have a creator/type. Suffix of the file (e.g. .pdf) is usually sufficient for the MacOSX to know its type and therefore how to deal with it (e.g. application to open it). One question: how can I get the application(s) which can open a file given its filepath? One answer to open the file but does not give the application(s) names: revgourl URL (binfile: tFilepath) Other solutions for each supported platform? Joel -- Ils ne savaient pas que c'était impossible, alors ils l'ont fait. (Mark Twain) They did not know that it was impossible, so they did it. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: empty ask result + ok = result:cancel
Dear Mister X, I mentioned such a bug (#3019) in build 91 and it has been wonderfully fixed for the current downloable build. In the msg box, put version(), buildnumber() should reply 2.6.5,108. Otherwise download and reinstall Rev 2.6 again. Also I agree with Eric, you should place the result() function just after the ask statement: ask Replace what: with lselection if result() is cancel then exit mouseup put it into x Hope this help. Joel G Le 25 juil. 05 à 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:04:06 +0200 From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ask Replace what: with lselection put it into x get the result if it is cancel then exit mouseup ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[bug reason found] Re: Failing building Standalone on MacOSX 10.3.9 and Tiger 10.4.1
Thanks all folks for the advices. I have now been able to build a standalone by commenting the savingStandalone in the main stack. In the IDE this handler works properly without error but when executed by the standalone builder it unexpected quits Rev. I am going to update the bug in this direction. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Failing building Standalone on MacOSX 10.3.9 and Tiger 10.4.1
Since Rev 2.6 I have not been able to build any standalone: after setting the Application Setting, then chosen the Save as Standalone Application menu Revolution unexpectedly quits after less than 1-2 secs. I have tried to change settings but could not fix myself. For such a very very annoying situation I filled a blocking bug last week but didn't receive any reply from Runrev. On my desktop the Help menu - Check for updates... replies You have the lastest version of Revolution along with the latest updates. Could anyone tell me if (1) s/he has been able to build standalone under MacOSX 10.3.9+? If yes, how? (2) s/he is aware of such a problem and what to do? On a previous release we had to wait for more than 4 months before Runrev fixes a problem with MacOSX bundles and externals and some days I really ask myself which dev plateform to go on with. I would accept that this problem could be due to a bit of electronic ghost in my hardware but before shaking my head once again to the wall, I prefer to check for other unfortunate MacOSX revolutioners... In advance thanks so much for making me a happy Rev user! JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: compileIt for revolution?
From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Then my second favorite language was Python. The GUI-building tools for Python are pathetic to non-existent. But the language is powerful and elegant and extends naturally. If the PythonCard project I was engaged in before I discovered Revolution had been on a fast track or complete, odds are I'd have never used Rev. Didn't you know about wxDesigner to generate the Python code for GUI? There is also a very new Boa Constructor upgrade... Yes, Python is lacking for an IDE, i.e. Integrated tools for coding and designing GUI! I expect an integrated Python external but as the SDK is so obscure... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A hint of the Future
TMI Will someone that was at the conference please tell me the hint of the TMI future for rev. please It will all be revealed in the RevCon 2006 keynote. 2006? What a smart future for Rev! I'm still dreaming about some REALly Rapid Release Plans. Maybe we as developers are not filling bugzilla requests for new features: XSLT, Xforms, HTMLViewer or some of the 40 native user interface controls that REALbasic provides, ... JG Joël Guillod ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 20, Issue 96
I had a dream that Runrev also has «Rapid Release Plans» for Revolution. Constructive ideas can be found at: http://www.realsoftware.com/company/pressreleases/pr_rapidrelease.html :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rapid Release Plans
I had a dream that Runrev also has «Rapid Release Plans» for Revolution. Constructive ideas can be found at: http://www.realsoftware.com/company/pressreleases/pr_rapidrelease.html :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
altSQLite versus Valentina for Rev
Russlan, What a good opportunity to explain you some of the reasons why you probably miss so many users. My own experience of Valentina has been a failure because I have never been able to easily operate Valentina with Hypercard/Supercard and more recently with Revolution. Dont reply that I should not be an adequate programer, just search the Rev archives to understand that many Revolutionados have made attempts to use Valentina with many difficulties and switched to another solution. Also be aware that altSQLite has been released with the following advantages among others: - many altPlugins are provided for free and has been proven very usefull and well polished; - the altSQLite Demo stack is very well designed and just ready to use sample: you open it, it just works and you can see the sample scripts; - affordable price; - SQLite is widely recognized by many other developers: see PHP for a single instance, not to say the MacOSX Tiger integration. - last but not least: speed development time. I spend many days failing to deal with Valentina user guides where I have been able to create a DB and to write error free scripts with altSQLite in just minutes. Yet there is a problem with altSqlite under MacOSX 10.3.9 which crashes Revolution in some circonstances but I am confident that Chipp/Altuit will fix that soon. As Revolution developers we know that he is very active and reactive. You have proven the opposite. There was (is? I didn't check recently) no Revolution sample stack for Valentina. Also some arguments in favor of Valentina are not so important for most of our applications: - speed is most often an issue when users have large databases which is not the case for most of us; - price can be an issue: I am not sure that many of us are selling their applications to valuate Valentina more than the free Postgres or MySQL DBMS; - Those DBMS are supported by many developers and we dont know what would happen to Valentina I you disappear tomorrow. SQLite source code is available and free. What a warranty for our data; - multiusers capability require another process to execute Valentina and those DBMS. I dont see any advantages of one over the others if you'd like to release an easy installation to users. My last comment is that competition is good! As developers we really thank Altuit to have written the SQLite plugin because this finally forces Paradigma Software Inc to seriously watch for the Revolution developers to give them the consideration and support they actually missed until today. BUT be aware that the time is very short not to loose the market today! Dont do war, build tools which prooves you make the developers' life easier! Regards, JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altSQLite versus Valentina for Rev
Le 16 mai 05, à 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm not sure if you are on the Valentina mailing list or not but Ruslan is one of the most helpful developers I have ever come across. True there is not example stack and Chipp has created an *excellent* example stack but to say that Ruslan has proven the opposite is a not a fair statement. After some corrections the words have gone further my thought. You are right sorry I was not willing to be negative against Ruslan as an individual and I recognise that he was very responsive to my questions in the ancient time (about 1999) when I studied Valentina for the first time. What I wanted to point out is that altSQLite was released a few months after Altuit started the development and that we got a wonderfull Demo Stack which helps starting efficiently with SQLite under Revolution but after years there is no such a stack from Paradigma Software Inc to help us starting with Valentina for Rev. In short Altuit has proven its committment in Revolution, Paradigma has to do it. JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Python and Rev
Anybody familiar with Ruby or WideStudio? Personnaly I use Eclipse + PyDev + Ant + wxDesigner for GUI (I am trying it currently) + wxPython (i.e. a wrapper for the wxWidgets as the multiplatform GUI). At first a bit more complex than Revolution or RealBasic IDE but opensource, much more reliable and quick fixes by the wide developers' community, object oriented with more complex data structures and many important modules ready to use (xslt, database, sockets, easy C/C++ externals, ...). Like others I will probably keep Rev for some programming but the most important - and the most difficult - is to use the right tool for the right thing...! Rev allows AppleScript via the do ... as AppleScript command. Perhaps this could be extended to support things like do ... as Python do ... Why not? But under MacOSX 3.x you just have to run the following script: put print 'hello' into thePythonScript put shell(python -c quote thePythonScript quote) (also similar for ruby...). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Access to the Mac OS X Address Book
Is there a way to access to the Mac OS X Address Book from Revolution? I found that RealBasic provides classes to do this so you can read from or write to the Address Book. JG ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
SuspendStack on CloseStack
Having problem in understand a strange behavior for a stack of mine, I realised that the doc explains that the suspendStack message is also send when closing a stack. But I need to distinguish two situations: (1) when user click on another window than the default stack (which is that the currentStack is suspended) from (2) when user close the default stack. Only the closestack message is sent in situation 2 but both suspendStack and CloseStack are sent in situation 1. How can I know that I am in situation 1? I thought the semantic meaning of suspendstack was precisely to distinguish from the closeStack which is the behavior in Hypercard. I use Rev 2.5, but the documentation does not report any change to this system message since its introduction in 1.0. Summary: (1) clicking on another stack than the default one sends: suspendStack (2) closing a stack sends: suspendStack + CloseStack Question: how can I know in the suspendStack message that I am in situation 1 and not 2? Thanks to any expert. Joel G Dr Joël Guillod Médecin-associé au CHUV Ancien chef de clinique Fbg du Lac 7 2000 Neuchâtel Tél. 032.721.29.29 Fax 032.721.29.30 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Of standalones, bundles and files
Dave, Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:27:32 -0700 From: David Squance [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Of standalones, bundles and files I'm using RR2.1.2 on OSX, and would like to avoid using the standalone builder, as it takes 30 to 40 minutes doing something with a particular substack. Is there a reason why I shouldn't just build the splashscreen stack and put the 'real' rev file in the same folder and avoid having it in the build? And if I do this, is there a way to get the file inside the OS X bundle? Dave Recently Trevor DeVore [EMAIL PROTECTED] gave me the answer (the at least for me!): http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/using_externals.html My preferred way to fastly swap from developing to testing the implementation is to build the standalone as one stack with just the startup screen and the script below. That way I dont need to wait the long process of building a dozens stacks applications. My application folder looks like this: path/Application Folder path/StandaloneApplication -- this is the standalone path/StandaloneStack -- Optional but practical for swaping between Dev and Standalone: This is the one stack used to build the standalone. Its card contains the script below and a splah screen. path/plugins/Startup -- this is my initialization stack: I put in its preOpenstack all the scripts to executed to initialize my application. path/plugins/ExternalLoader -- during initialization I do a: go invisible to stack ExternalLoader to load the externals (see the above link from Trevor). path/plugins/many_other_stacks_used_by_your_application -- These are the stacks of my application. path/plugins/externals/ -- this is the folder in which I put the externals path/plugins/externals/revdb.bundle -- this is the externals for database path/plugins/externals/revdb.dll -- this is the externals for database path/plugins/externals/revxml.bundle -- this is the externals for xml path/plugins/externals/revxml.dll -- this is the externals for xml Script inside the unique card of the StandaloneApplication stack looks like this (I use a variant because I have a rolling script for a field displayed on the startup screen, I can share the whole stack if you'd like to): on startup send startApplication to me in 3 secs -- dont do startApplication directly because some libraries will not be loaded, see documentation under the note under subject revGoURL. end startup constant kStarterStack = plugins/Startup /** startApplication @purpose To start the application according to the convention. @convention Just next to the application file there should be a plugins folder with a Startup stack (depends on constant kStarterStack). @convention This startup stack is just responsable to start the application when it receives a preOpenstack message. */ on startApplication put the short name of this stack into kApplicationStack start using stack kApplicationStack put startupStackFilepath() into tStartupStack if there is a stack tStartupStack then hide stack kApplicationStack open stack tStartupStack else -- this is the french translation : answer error Le module de démarrage de l'application est introuvable! Veuillez vérifier votre configuration! crcr tStartupStack with Quitter answer error The Startup module has not been found! Please check your configuration! crcr tStartupStack with Quit quit end if end startApplication function startupStackFilepath set the itemdel to / put my_applicationStack() into f put kStarterStack into last item of f return f end startupStackFilepath function my_applicationStack put the filename of me into f if the platform is MacOS and char 1 of the systemVersion is 1 then --it's a bundle get offset(/Contents/MacOS/,f) if it0 then delete char it to -1 of f end if return f end my_applicationStack Note that for MacOSX bundle it should be possible to adapt the startupStackFilepath() so the plugins folder is placed inside the bundle folder. This is just a summary. If many are interested, I will take some hours to polish my own stacks and put them as a complete sample downloadable from the net. I wrote some usefull utility scripts to manage the application settings. Let me know! Joel Guillod - www.imed.ch ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?
Dear Revolution Developers, As far as I have been enable to test it these last weeks, Revolution appears as a very mature and advanced product. Being a first days Hyper- and Supercard user, I am convinced that Runtime Revolution Ltd should be very proud of their product because they have done a pretty good job until yet. Leaving the implementation part of the product, I am wondering to know what you as developers and users are saying about the company. Is it responsive? Could we count on the company that the product will live a long time, being enhanced and bug corrected in a raisonable amont of time? That developers are listened for a best (R)evolution? My own very short experience is that I registered through the Internet for some license of Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial to unlock the free version. I also sent an email yesterday but still no reply. My previous experiences with RealBasic are so that the replies from Realsoftware are very fast. Also does the Supercard team. Then the meaning of my questions about the Revolution company: I have been waiting for a while for the second version annonced many months ago. Now it is here and is working quite fine (ok few bugs but very few for an upgrade). So, I decided to move and to make development first for academic projects to, maybe later on, commercial ones. And now I have to admit that things may be going very slow... So, let me know if I will be able to do serious development with Revolution. I am convinced that my own problem is just a small failure somewhere but the doubt has been raised. If you prefer for privacy, please just reply directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. King Regards and good pleasure with Revolution, Joel ___ Fighting against the malignant melanoma, the worst skin cancer? See http://www.imed.ch/dermoscopy/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Responsivness of Runtime Revolution Ltd.?
Dear Revolution Developers, As far as I have been enable to test it these last weeks, Revolution appears as a very mature and advanced product. Being a first days Hyper- and Supercard user, I am convinced that Runtime Revolution Ltd should be very proud of their product because they have done a pretty good job until yet. Leaving the implementation part of the product, I am wondering to know what you as developers and users are saying about the company. Is it responsive? Could we count on the company that the product will live a long time, being enhanced and bug corrected in a raisonable amont of time? That developers are listened for a best (R)evolution? My own very short experience is that I registered through the Internet for some license of Revolution two weeks ago and still haven't got the serial to unlock the free version. I also sent an email yesterday but still no reply. My previous experiences with RealBasic are so that the replies from Realsoftware are very fast. Also does the Supercard team. Then the meaning of my questions about the Revolution company: I have been waiting for a while for the second version annonced many months ago. Now it is here and is working quite fine (ok few bugs but very few for an upgrade). So, I decided to move and to make development first for academic projects to, maybe later on, commercial ones. And now I have to admit that things may be going very slow... So, let me know if I will be able to do serious development with Revolution. I am convinced that my own problem is just a small failure somewhere but the doubt has been raised. If you prefer for privacy, please reply directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. King Regards and good pleasure with Revolution, Joel ___ Fighting against the malignant melanoma, the worst skin cancer? See http://www.imed.ch/dermoscopy/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
