Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Ernie Rael]

On 2/25/2020 10:39 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Ernie Rael  wrote:

And to close the loop. The latest directory used is saved/used. It's
stashed as a preference at /org/netbeans/modules/projectui keyed with
projectsFolder.

Have you tried that?  If it actually worked consistently I don't think
anyone would have an issue here! ;-)

Best wishes,

Neil

Sadly it doesn't work with a clean userdir. And I'm not sure I could 
verify that *every* new project action goes through that path. Finally, 
I'm not sure that there's anything that someone wouldn't have an issue with.


-ernie


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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Neil C Smith]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 18:18, Ernie Rael  wrote:
> And to close the loop. The latest directory used is saved/used. It's
> stashed as a preference at /org/netbeans/modules/projectui keyed with
> projectsFolder.

Have you tried that?  If it actually worked consistently I don't think
anyone would have an issue here! ;-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Ernie Rael]

On 2/21/2020 12:06 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:



On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 01:42 Laszlo Kishalmi, > wrote:


I haven't known this one either. Just spent  one minute to dig it
up from the source code.

Always good advice! I didn't either until just before you posted, 
although found it via Google .. on the old mailing lists .. in an 
email from 6 years ago .. that I sent. :-)
And to close the loop. The latest directory used is saved/used. It's 
stashed as a preference at /org/netbeans/modules/projectui keyed with 
projectsFolder.


Those lists are a goldmine of useful info that we used to know - 
hopefully they're archived and spidered enough not to disappear!


Best wishes,

Neil




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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Neil C Smith]

On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 01:42 Laszlo Kishalmi, 
wrote:

> I haven't known this one either. Just spent  one minute to dig it up from
> the source code.
>
Always good advice! I didn't either until just before you posted, although
found it via Google .. on the old mailing lists .. in an email from 6 years
ago .. that I sent. :-)

Those lists are a goldmine of useful info that we used to know - hopefully
they're archived and spidered enough not to disappear!

Best wishes,

Neil

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

I haven't known this one either. Just spent  one minute to dig it up 
from the source code.


My method was:

1. Search for "NetBeansProjects" in all properties which throw one 
Bundle.properties file in Project UI module the key was DIR_NetBeansProjects
2. Search the java files from project UI sources for 
DIR_NetBeansProjects, that way I had the code. All I needed to do is 
read it, found the system property

3. Post that in this thread.

On 2/20/20 12:00 PM, joe foe wrote:
You learn something new everyday! . Is there a complete list of all 
these parameters?




Regards,
JoeFoe

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:09 Mark Eggers, 
 wrote:


I did not know that - cool!

. . . just my two cents
/mde/
On 2/20/2020 10:59 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Start Netbeans with:
>
> -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=
>
> you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well
>
> On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
>> I don't really understand why you described a disk crash,
recovery, and
>> then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking
/ wasn't
>> easy to change.
>>
>> Instead, how about the following:
>>
>> I would like to change the default location of where File->New
Project
>> creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do
this. Is
>> there one?
>>
>> Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that
allows us to
>> chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options
that
>> allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use
case on
>> the mailing list. Thanks.
>>
>> Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
>> sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.
>>
>> Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different
location during
>> project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
>> different parent directories, browsing around to open projects
is part
>> of my normal work flow. YMMV
>>
>> . . . just my two cents.
>> /mde/
>>
>> On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
>>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few
lines I did
>>> read: no, you got me wrong.
>>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so:
How?, to
>>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed
to get
>>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the
GUI gives me
>>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is
basically a
>>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any
config file.
>>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T
seem to have
>>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question
seem to
>>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich
has nothing
>>> to do with per-user settings at all.
>>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them
exists since
>>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a
discusion from
>>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much
to ask
>>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start
up where
>>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it
that hard
>>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms
followed
>>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting
with
>>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and
Help -
>>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those -
and offer
>>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is
Netbeans? 15+
>>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
>>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where
someone
>>> couldn't decide just where to put it.
>>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java
5 any
>>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the
compiler -
>>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level
to at
>>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me
100s of
>>> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
>>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor
with some
>>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see
what a mess
>>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich
in fact
>>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it -
what's the
>>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around
simplest fails
>>> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>>>
>>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did
what I told
>>> to do 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I love this thread, how it developed will be the basis of several sessions
I will be doing — essentially about everything that is truly good and truly
bad about open source (i.e., shared ownership) development.

Gj


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 21:00, joe foe  wrote:

> You learn something new everyday! . Is there a complete list of all these
> parameters?
>
>
>
> Regards,
> JoeFoe
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:09 Mark Eggers, 
> wrote:
>
>> I did not know that - cool!
>>
>> . . . just my two cents
>> /mde/
>> On 2/20/2020 10:59 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>> > Start Netbeans with:
>> >
>> > -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=
>> >
>> > you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well
>> >
>> > On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
>> >> I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
>> >> then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking /
>> wasn't
>> >> easy to change.
>> >>
>> >> Instead, how about the following:
>> >>
>> >> I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
>> >> creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
>> >> there one?
>> >>
>> >> Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
>> >> chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
>> >> allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
>> >> the mailing list. Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
>> >> sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
>> >> project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
>> >> different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
>> >> of my normal work flow. YMMV
>> >>
>> >> . . . just my two cents.
>> >> /mde/
>> >>
>> >> On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
>> >>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I
>> did
>> >>> read: no, you got me wrong.
>> >>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
>> >>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
>> >>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives
>> me
>> >>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
>> >>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
>> >>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to
>> have
>> >>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
>> >>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has
>> nothing
>> >>> to do with per-user settings at all.
>> >>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
>> >>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
>> >>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
>> >>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
>> >>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
>> >>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms
>> followed
>> >>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
>> >>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
>> >>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and
>> offer
>> >>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
>> >>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
>> >>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
>> >>> couldn't decide just where to put it.
>> >>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
>> >>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the
>> compiler -
>> >>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
>> >>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
>> >>> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
>> >>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
>> >>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
>> >>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
>> >>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's
>> the
>> >>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
>> >>> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I
>> told
>> >>> to do ..
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
>>  First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
>> 
>>  Second of all, this is just my opinion.
>> 
>>  So let me try to understand your problem first.
>> 
>>  1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
>> 
>>  This is different than where your user profile is stored. I
>> 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[joe foe]

You learn something new everyday! . Is there a complete list of all these
parameters?



Regards,
JoeFoe

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 20:09 Mark Eggers, 
wrote:

> I did not know that - cool!
>
> . . . just my two cents
> /mde/
> On 2/20/2020 10:59 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Start Netbeans with:
> >
> > -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=
> >
> > you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well
> >
> > On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
> >> I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
> >> then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / wasn't
> >> easy to change.
> >>
> >> Instead, how about the following:
> >>
> >> I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
> >> creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
> >> there one?
> >>
> >> Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
> >> chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
> >> allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
> >> the mailing list. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
> >> sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.
> >>
> >> Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
> >> project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
> >> different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
> >> of my normal work flow. YMMV
> >>
> >> . . . just my two cents.
> >> /mde/
> >>
> >> On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
> >>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
> >>> read: no, you got me wrong.
> >>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
> >>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
> >>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives
> me
> >>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
> >>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
> >>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to
> have
> >>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
> >>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
> >>> to do with per-user settings at all.
> >>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
> >>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
> >>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
> >>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
> >>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
> >>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
> >>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
> >>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
> >>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and
> offer
> >>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
> >>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
> >>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
> >>> couldn't decide just where to put it.
> >>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> >>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler
> -
> >>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> >>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> >>> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
> >>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
> >>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
> >>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
> >>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
> >>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
> >>> done in every beginners for dummies book?
> >>>
> >>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I
> told
> >>> to do ..
> >>>
> >>> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
>  First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
> 
>  Second of all, this is just my opinion.
> 
>  So let me try to understand your problem first.
> 
>  1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
> 
>  This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
>  this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
>  drive.
> 
>  2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
> 
>  3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
> 
>  The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
>  location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive
> letters
>  have 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Mark Eggers]

I did not know that - cool!

. . . just my two cents
/mde/
On 2/20/2020 10:59 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Start Netbeans with:
> 
> -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=
> 
> you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well
> 
> On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
>> I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
>> then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / wasn't
>> easy to change.
>>
>> Instead, how about the following:
>>
>> I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
>> creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
>> there one?
>>
>> Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
>> chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
>> allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
>> the mailing list. Thanks.
>>
>> Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
>> sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.
>>
>> Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
>> project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
>> different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
>> of my normal work flow. YMMV
>>
>> . . . just my two cents.
>> /mde/
>>
>> On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
>>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
>>> read: no, you got me wrong.
>>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
>>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
>>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
>>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
>>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
>>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
>>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
>>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
>>> to do with per-user settings at all.
>>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
>>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
>>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
>>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
>>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
>>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
>>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
>>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
>>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
>>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
>>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
>>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
>>> couldn't decide just where to put it.
>>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
>>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
>>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
>>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
>>> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
>>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
>>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
>>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
>>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
>>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
>>> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>>>
>>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
>>> to do ..
>>>
>>> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
 First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.

 Second of all, this is just my opinion.

 So let me try to understand your problem first.

 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk

 This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
 this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
 drive.

 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk

 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk

 The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
 location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
 have changed or directories have changed.

 In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.

 The best solution is to:

 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
 projects

 As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
 something that should be done. I confess that 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Wow, awesome.

Gj

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 19:59, Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Start Netbeans with:
>
> -J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=
>
> you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well
>
> On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
> > I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
> > then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / wasn't
> > easy to change.
> >
> > Instead, how about the following:
> >
> > I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
> > creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
> > there one?
> >
> > Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
> > chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
> > allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
> > the mailing list. Thanks.
> >
> > Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
> > sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.
> >
> > Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
> > project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
> > different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
> > of my normal work flow. YMMV
> >
> > . . . just my two cents.
> > /mde/
> >
> > On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
> >> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
> >> read: no, you got me wrong.
> >> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
> >> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
> >> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
> >> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
> >> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
> >> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
> >> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
> >> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
> >> to do with per-user settings at all.
> >> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
> >> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
> >> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
> >> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
> >> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
> >> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
> >> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
> >> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
> >> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
> >> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
> >> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
> >> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
> >> couldn't decide just where to put it.
> >> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> >> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
> >> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> >> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> >> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
> >> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
> >> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
> >> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
> >> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
> >> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
> >> done in every beginners for dummies book?
> >>
> >> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
> >> to do ..
> >>
> >> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
> >>> First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
> >>>
> >>> Second of all, this is just my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> So let me try to understand your problem first.
> >>>
> >>> 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
> >>>
> >>> This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
> >>> this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
> >>> drive.
> >>>
> >>> 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
> >>>
> >>> 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
> >>>
> >>> The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
> >>> location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
> >>> have changed or directories have changed.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.
> >>>
> >>> The best solution is to:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
> >>> projects
> >>>
> >>> As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Start Netbeans with:

-J-Dnetbeans.projects.dir=

you can add that option into your etc/netbeans.conf as well

On 2/20/20 6:59 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:

I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / wasn't
easy to change.

Instead, how about the following:

I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
there one?

Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
the mailing list. Thanks.

Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.

Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
of my normal work flow. YMMV

. . . just my two cents.
/mde/

On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:

TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
read: no, you got me wrong.
My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
(as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
to do with per-user settings at all.
Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
couldn't decide just where to put it.
Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
devs could get this done in the time this exists.
All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
done in every beginners for dummies book?

I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
to do ..

Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:

First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.

Second of all, this is just my opinion.

So let me try to understand your problem first.

1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk

This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
drive.

2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk

3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk

The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
have changed or directories have changed.

In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.

The best solution is to:

1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
projects

As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
trivial.

Just don't do it.

2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.

In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.

As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
JDK limitation.

If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
I can see.

a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11.

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Mark Eggers]

I don't really understand why you described a disk crash, recovery, and
then said that the default project folder wasn't to your liking / wasn't
easy to change.

Instead, how about the following:

I would like to change the default location of where File->New Project
creates projects. I didn't find an easy or effective way to do this. Is
there one?

Can we have a start-up switch (somewhat like Eclipse) that allows us to
chose a base project location? Or maybe a GUI in Tools->Options that
allows us to set it easily? I will be happy to discuss my use case on
the mailing list. Thanks.

Is the above an accurate description of your issue? If it is, that
sounds like a simple (and possibly reasonable) request.

Personally, I don't mind browsing around to a different location during
project creation. Since I store different clusters of projects in
different parent directories, browsing around to open projects is part
of my normal work flow. YMMV

. . . just my two cents.
/mde/

On 2/19/2020 9:22 PM, cryptearth wrote:
> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
> read: no, you got me wrong.
> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
> to do with per-user settings at all.
> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
> couldn't decide just where to put it.
> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
> done in every beginners for dummies book?
> 
> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
> to do ..
> 
> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
>> First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
>>
>> Second of all, this is just my opinion.
>>
>> So let me try to understand your problem first.
>>
>> 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
>>
>> This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
>> this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
>> drive.
>>
>> 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
>>
>> 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
>>
>> The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
>> location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
>> have changed or directories have changed.
>>
>> In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.
>>
>> The best solution is to:
>>
>> 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
>> projects
>>
>> As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
>> something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
>> trivial.
>>
>> Just don't do it.
>>
>> 2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.
>>
>> In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.
>>
>> As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
>> JDK limitation.
>>
>> If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
>> and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
>> I can see.
>>
>> a. 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Mark Eggers]

Maven does this as well, and there are configurations (as well as
command line options) to manage this.

I would not be happy with a tool that changed the pom.xml or it's
meaning. I like that I get a warning, and then I get to decide how to
address it.

For me, managing JDK versions by using Tools->Java Platforms works as
long as I'm in the IDE. For a more robust solution, Maven provides
documentation on how to manage multiple (and appropriate) JDK installations.

. . . just my two cents.
/mde/

On 2/20/2020 4:15 AM, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> devs could get this done in the time this exists
> 
> You could open an issue about this too. Note that 1M devs does not imply
> 100s of volunteers working for free to fix every issue.
> 
> --emi
> 
> joi, 20 feb. 2020, 07:22 cryptearth  a scris:
> 
>> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
>> read: no, you got me wrong.
>> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
>> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
>> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
>> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
>> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
>> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
>> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
>> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
>> to do with per-user settings at all.
>> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
>> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
>> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
>> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
>> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
>> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
>> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
>> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
>> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
>> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
>> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
>> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
>> couldn't decide just where to put it.
>> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
>> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
>> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
>> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
>> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
>> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
>> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
>> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
>> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
>> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
>> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>>
>> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
>> to do ..
>>
>> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
>>> First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
>>>
>>> Second of all, this is just my opinion.
>>>
>>> So let me try to understand your problem first.
>>>
>>> 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
>>>
>>> This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
>>> this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
>> drive.
>>>
>>> 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
>>>
>>> 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
>>>
>>> The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
>>> location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
>>> have changed or directories have changed.
>>>
>>> In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.
>>>
>>> The best solution is to:
>>>
>>> 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
>> projects
>>>
>>> As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
>>> something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
>>> trivial.
>>>
>>> Just don't do it.
>>>
>>> 2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.
>>>
>>> In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.
>>>
>>> As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
>>> JDK limitation.
>>>
>>> If you want to compile (and be 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Emilian Bold]

> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
devs could get this done in the time this exists

You could open an issue about this too. Note that 1M devs does not imply
100s of volunteers working for free to fix every issue.

--emi

joi, 20 feb. 2020, 07:22 cryptearth  a scris:

> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
> read: no, you got me wrong.
> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
> to do with per-user settings at all.
> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
> couldn't decide just where to put it.
> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>
> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
> to do ..
>
> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
> > First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
> >
> > Second of all, this is just my opinion.
> >
> > So let me try to understand your problem first.
> >
> > 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
> >
> > This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
> > this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
> drive.
> >
> > 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
> >
> > 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
> >
> > The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
> > location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
> > have changed or directories have changed.
> >
> > In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.
> >
> > The best solution is to:
> >
> > 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
> projects
> >
> > As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
> > something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
> > trivial.
> >
> > Just don't do it.
> >
> > 2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.
> >
> > In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.
> >
> > As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
> > JDK limitation.
> >
> > If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
> > and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
> > I can see.
> >
> > a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11.
> > b. In Tools->Java Platforms, register the JDK 8 platform
> > c. In the project Properties->Build->Compile panel, configure the
> > project to use  the registered JDK 8 Java Platform
> >
> > I do this all the time, as I'm trying to get a company I consult for to
> > move from J2EE 2.5 / Tomcat 7 to servlet spec 4 and Tomcat 9.
> >
> > I do this on Windows 10 Professional, with the last Oracle JRE / JDK 8
> > and 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 07:27, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:
> Sure, create an issue and this could be something we implement. I don’t think 
> anyone has asked for this before but it makes sense to me. In the Options 
> window, it should be possible to specify the location of the folder where 
> projects are created by default. I agree completely, just had never thought 
> about it before.

I'm not sure this requires any more UI to confuse users.  At one point
didn't NetBeans remember the last place you created a project?!  That
would probably be more intuitive.

I admire your patience on this one! ;-)  Attitudes like the OP's on
any open-source project I'm volunteering my time to generally get
thrown in the trash pile.

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Sure, create an issue and this could be something we implement. I don’t
think anyone has asked for this before but it makes sense to me. In the
Options window, it should be possible to specify the location of the folder
where projects are created by default. I agree completely, just had never
thought about it before.

Gj

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 06:22, cryptearth  wrote:

> TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did
> read: no, you got me wrong.
> My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to
> change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get
> created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me
> (as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a
> graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file.
> The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have
> an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to
> didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing
> to do with per-user settings at all.
> Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since
> 15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from
> back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask
> just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where
> the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard
> to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed
> for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with
> File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help -
> and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer
> the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+
> years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly:
> immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone
> couldn't decide just where to put it.
> Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any
> more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler -
> and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at
> least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of
> devs could get this done in the time this exists.
> All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some
> basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess
> and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact
> they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the
> benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails
> done in every beginners for dummies book?
>
> I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told
> to do ..
>
> Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:
> > First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.
> >
> > Second of all, this is just my opinion.
> >
> > So let me try to understand your problem first.
> >
> > 1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk
> >
> > This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
> > this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD
> drive.
> >
> > 2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk
> >
> > 3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk
> >
> > The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
> > location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
> > have changed or directories have changed.
> >
> > In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.
> >
> > The best solution is to:
> >
> > 1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more
> projects
> >
> > As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
> > something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
> > trivial.
> >
> > Just don't do it.
> >
> > 2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.
> >
> > In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.
> >
> > As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
> > JDK limitation.
> >
> > If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
> > and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
> > I can see.
> >
> > a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11.
> > b. In Tools->Java Platforms, register the JDK 8 platform
> > c. In the project Properties->Build->Compile panel, configure the
> > project to use  the registered JDK 8 Java Platform
> >
> > I do this all the time, as I'm trying to get a company I consult for to
> > move from J2EE 2.5 / Tomcat 7 to servlet spec 4 and Tomcat 9.
> >
> > I do this on Windows 10 Professional, with the last Oracle JRE / JDK 8
> > and AdoptOpenJDK 11.0.6 installed from the zip file.
> >
> > The only time things get unpleasant is if I try to build a JDK 5 project
> > from the 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[cryptearth]

TBH I didn'T read all of your reply, but from the first few lines I did 
read: no, you got me wrong.
My question is as simple as that: Is it possible, and if so: How?, to 
change the default project folder where new projects supposed to get 
created on disk? I didn't found any setting in whatever the GUI gives me 
(as someone else on this list a few ago said: "Netbeans is basically a 
graphical wrapper around maven.") and I didn't found any config file. 
The one mentioned on many search results on the net doesn'T seem to have 
an effect either, and the other user replied to my question seem to 
didn't got my question at all and pointed me to a file wich has nothing 
to do with per-user settings at all.
Yes, Netbeans has many flaws - and obvious a lot of them exists since 
15(!) years (I found a bug report wich evolved into a discusion from 
back late 2004 about this very topic). Is it really that much to ask 
just for a simple input dialog right at the first time start up where 
the user wants his default project location to be? And is it that hard 
to at least somewhat follow the style many graphical programms followed 
for the past three decades where you have a menu bar, starting with 
File, then Edit, then maybe some more, and end with Extras and Help - 
and to just put an "options" or "settings" into one of those - and offer 
the same settings dialog as mentioned before? How old is Netbeans? 15+ 
years? And it's menus are that - sorry to say it this directly: 
immature? It's like an early not feature complete alpha where someone 
couldn't decide just where to put it.
Back to modern days: Java 11 doesn't allow compiling for Java 5 any 
more. It's a simple if() just to check for the version of the compiler - 
and if it's 11 or above set the minimum target compiling level to at 
least 6 and disable any lower versions. C'mon - don't tell me 100s of 
devs could get this done in the time this exists.
All made fun about me cause I'm using just a simple editor with some 
basic syntax highlight and a terminal to compile. If I see what a mess 
and overhead all this fancy IDEs and build-tools costs - wich in fact 
they're supposed to do for the dev - not in addition to it - what's the 
benefit of wasting time to figure out how to get around simplest fails 
done in every beginners for dummies book?


I'm done with it - back to the old style - that at least did what I told 
to do ..


Am 20.02.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Mark Eggers:

First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.

Second of all, this is just my opinion.

So let me try to understand your problem first.

1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk

This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD drive.

2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk

3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk

The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
have changed or directories have changed.

In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.

The best solution is to:

1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more projects

As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
trivial.

Just don't do it.

2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.

In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.

As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
JDK limitation.

If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
I can see.

a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11.
b. In Tools->Java Platforms, register the JDK 8 platform
c. In the project Properties->Build->Compile panel, configure the
project to use  the registered JDK 8 Java Platform

I do this all the time, as I'm trying to get a company I consult for to
move from J2EE 2.5 / Tomcat 7 to servlet spec 4 and Tomcat 9.

I do this on Windows 10 Professional, with the last Oracle JRE / JDK 8
and AdoptOpenJDK 11.0.6 installed from the zip file.

The only time things get unpleasant is if I try to build a JDK 5 project
from the command line, since my default Java is 11.0.6.

. . . just my two cents
/mde/

On 2/19/2020 3:56 PM, cryptearth wrote:

I know at least someone will feel offended no matter how polite I try to
write my response, hence I try to just repeat the question instead of
responding to the reply (I guess someone who read carefully might notice
what I mean and try to avoid to say out loud):

Is there a way to (re-)set the default projects folder?
And why is it that almost any answer you get when you ask google about
this very topic points to file I mentioned?

Matt

Am 20.02.2020 um 00:23 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Do not change 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Mark Eggers]

First of all, I'm just a happy NetBeans user.

Second of all, this is just my opinion.

So let me try to understand your problem first.

1. You crashed what appears to be a Windows data and programs disk

This is different than where your user profile is stored. I understand
this, since I do the same thing to minimize usage of a small OS SSD drive.

2. You reinstalled NetBeans on a new disk

3. You recovered your NetBeans projects on a new disk

The problem is that the 'Recent Projects' list links to the wrong
location. I'm guessing that this is the case since either drive letters
have changed or directories have changed.

In addition, there may be a lot of issues with the cache.

The best solution is to:

1. Ignore the 'Recent Projects' list until you've opened 10 or more projects

As Gj has pointed out, editing the projectui.properties file is not
something that should be done. I confess that I've done it, but it's not
trivial.

Just don't do it.

2. Before starting NetBeans, delete the cache directory.

In short, both will be rebuilt properly by NetBeans as you use the IDE.

As to your setting a target below 6 with JDK 11: - you can't. This is a
JDK limitation.

If you want to compile (and be proper) a J2EE 2.5 project, with source
and target set to 1.5 (in Maven parlance), then you have one option that
I can see.

a. Install JDK / JRE 8 along with JDK / JRE 11.
b. In Tools->Java Platforms, register the JDK 8 platform
c. In the project Properties->Build->Compile panel, configure the
project to use  the registered JDK 8 Java Platform

I do this all the time, as I'm trying to get a company I consult for to
move from J2EE 2.5 / Tomcat 7 to servlet spec 4 and Tomcat 9.

I do this on Windows 10 Professional, with the last Oracle JRE / JDK 8
and AdoptOpenJDK 11.0.6 installed from the zip file.

The only time things get unpleasant is if I try to build a JDK 5 project
from the command line, since my default Java is 11.0.6.

. . . just my two cents
/mde/

On 2/19/2020 3:56 PM, cryptearth wrote:
> I know at least someone will feel offended no matter how polite I try to
> write my response, hence I try to just repeat the question instead of
> responding to the reply (I guess someone who read carefully might notice
> what I mean and try to avoid to say out loud):
> 
> Is there a way to (re-)set the default projects folder?
> And why is it that almost any answer you get when you ask google about
> this very topic points to file I mentioned?
> 
> Matt
> 
> Am 20.02.2020 um 00:23 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>> Do not change that file, do not touch it.
>>
>> The file you need, if what you want is define the JDK to use to start
>> NetBeans, is "etc/netbeans.conf" in the installation directory.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22 AM cryptearth > > wrote:
>>
>>     Well, I wrote my mail to soon before even try it myself - as I
>>     have to add: No matter what I put into the mentioned properties
>>     file it doesn't change the default path NB uses. I also tried to
>>     find it in other config files and even in the windows registry -
>>     but had no luck. So, as manual edit a config file referred to on
>>     many resulst found by google, and as there seem no option in the
>>     GUI I can change - how do I change the default folder?
>>
>>     Matt
>>
>>     Am 20.02.2020 um 00:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>>     Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties".
>>>
>>>     Gj
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth
>>>     mailto:cryptea...@cryptearth.de>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2
>>>     set up
>>>     again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder.
>>>     As I got
>>>     through google this has to be done manual by editing the file
>>>     projectui.properties located in
>>>    
>>> userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.
>>>
>>>     Two simple questions:
>>>     1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
>>>     2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?
>>>
>>>     There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it
>>>     should, for
>>>     example allow setting target java version below 6 when a
>>>     compiler
>>>     version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only
>>>     supported
>>>     down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give
>>>     a developer
>>>     some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans
>>>     require I'm
>>>     not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get
>>>     Eclipse to
>>>     even launch properly, let alone set up a project.
>>>
>>>     Matt
>>>
>>>    
>>> -
>>>     To 

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[cryptearth]

I know at least someone will feel offended no matter how polite I try to 
write my response, hence I try to just repeat the question instead of 
responding to the reply (I guess someone who read carefully might notice 
what I mean and try to avoid to say out loud):


Is there a way to (re-)set the default projects folder?
And why is it that almost any answer you get when you ask google about 
this very topic points to file I mentioned?


Matt

Am 20.02.2020 um 00:23 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Do not change that file, do not touch it.

The file you need, if what you want is define the JDK to use to start 
NetBeans, is "etc/netbeans.conf" in the installation directory.


Gj

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22 AM cryptearth > wrote:


Well, I wrote my mail to soon before even try it myself - as I
have to add: No matter what I put into the mentioned properties
file it doesn't change the default path NB uses. I also tried to
find it in other config files and even in the windows registry -
but had no luck. So, as manual edit a config file referred to on
many resulst found by google, and as there seem no option in the
GUI I can change - how do I change the default folder?

Matt

Am 20.02.2020 um 00:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties".

Gj

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth
mailto:cryptea...@cryptearth.de>> wrote:

So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2
set up
again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder.
As I got
through google this has to be done manual by editing the file
projectui.properties located in

userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules.

I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.

Two simple questions:
1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?

There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it
should, for
example allow setting target java version below 6 when a
compiler
version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only
supported
down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give
a developer
some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans
require I'm
not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get
Eclipse to
even launch properly, let alone set up a project.

Matt

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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Do not change that file, do not touch it.

The file you need, if what you want is define the JDK to use to start
NetBeans, is "etc/netbeans.conf" in the installation directory.

Gj

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 12:22 AM cryptearth 
wrote:

> Well, I wrote my mail to soon before even try it myself - as I have to
> add: No matter what I put into the mentioned properties file it doesn't
> change the default path NB uses. I also tried to find it in other config
> files and even in the windows registry - but had no luck. So, as manual
> edit a config file referred to on many resulst found by google, and as
> there seem no option in the GUI I can change - how do I change the default
> folder?
>
> Matt
>
> Am 20.02.2020 um 00:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>
> Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties".
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth 
> wrote:
>
>> So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2 set up
>> again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder. As I got
>> through google this has to be done manual by editing the file
>> projectui.properties located in
>> userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules.
>>
>> I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.
>>
>> Two simple questions:
>> 1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
>> 2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?
>>
>> There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it should, for
>> example allow setting target java version below 6 when a compiler
>> version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only supported
>> down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give a developer
>> some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans require I'm
>> not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get Eclipse to
>> even launch properly, let alone set up a project.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> -
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>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>
>>
>

Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[cryptearth]

Well, I wrote my mail to soon before even try it myself - as I have to 
add: No matter what I put into the mentioned properties file it doesn't 
change the default path NB uses. I also tried to find it in other config 
files and even in the windows registry - but had no luck. So, as manual 
edit a config file referred to on many resulst found by google, and as 
there seem no option in the GUI I can change - how do I change the 
default folder?


Matt

Am 20.02.2020 um 00:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties".

Gj

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth > wrote:


So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2 set up
again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder. As I
got
through google this has to be done manual by editing the file
projectui.properties located in

userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules.

I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.

Two simple questions:
1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?

There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it should,
for
example allow setting target java version below 6 when a compiler
version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only
supported
down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give a
developer
some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans
require I'm
not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get Eclipse to
even launch properly, let alone set up a project.

Matt

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Re: NB 11.2 change default project path

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Np, you never need to edit "projectui.properties".

Gj

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:12 PM cryptearth 
wrote:

> So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2 set up
> again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder. As I got
> through google this has to be done manual by editing the file
> projectui.properties located in
> userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules.
>
> I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.
>
> Two simple questions:
> 1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
> 2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?
>
> There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it should, for
> example allow setting target java version below 6 when a compiler
> version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only supported
> down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give a developer
> some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans require I'm
> not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get Eclipse to
> even launch properly, let alone set up a project.
>
> Matt
>
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>

NB 11.2 change default project path

[cryptearth]

So, as I had to recover from a hard disk crash I had NB 11.2 set up 
again but didn't got any dialog about default project folder. As I got 
through google this has to be done manual by editing the file 
projectui.properties located in 
userhome/appdata/roaming/netbeans/11.2/config/preferences/org/netbeans/modules. 
I have found several topics as early as NB 6.x.


Two simple questions:
1) Why and why wasn't there any change since at least NB 6.x?
2) Is there any hidden way to change this via the GUI?

There're several other things the GUI doesn't handle as it should, for 
example allow setting target java version below 6 when a compiler 
version 11 or higher is used, as since v11 compiling is only supported 
down to v6 -> compile failure. Isn't an IDE supposed to give a developer 
some convenience? As far as I got into the overhead Netbeans require I'm 
not sure if it's the right IDE for me - but I couldn't get Eclipse to 
even launch properly, let alone set up a project.


Matt

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