[users] Calc: Shifting of symbols
In OOcalc I wanted to use formula (symbols) and then some mathematical formula or its description in next cell. For sysmbol is used "Anchored to Cell", for description, I used "Vertical Alignment: Top". With this arrangement I was unable to get symbol and description in a line. On trying to change base point for position of symbol failed. Please see: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/hardeep.rai/Temp#5385972517172890082 On deleting row containing "Beta", it deleted symbol "Beta" as expected but also deleted symbol "pi", i.e symbol of next line. http://picasaweb.google.co.in/hardeep.rai/Temp#5385972513748603090 File is at: http://gndec.ac.in/~hsrai/tmp/ooFormula.ods How I can keep content of a row in a line (align vertically) and why it deleted two symbol. In other big document, when I inserted a row, all symbols shifted in wrong manner (It shifted "Description, but not "symbol" for newly inserted row, i.e. new inserted row had a symbol in it, i.e for rest of rows it "shifted relatively 1, instead of zero). -- H.S.Rai - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Mailing list
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[users] Re: Mailing list
AG wrote: > Wade Smart wrote: >> Victoria Ceolin wrote: >>> Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks >>> lod...@sympatico.ca >>> >> >> Bottom of the list | >>V >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org >> >> > Given the number of times that these requests come through to the > list, I wonder if something might be open to a common > misinterpretation of the instructions to unsubscribe. > > The instructions are clear to most, but clearly not to a recurring > minority and these all come into this list somehow. > > Can this be fixed by the list administrator? > > AG There is a comedian here in the States, I forget his name, who has a famous line: "You can't fix stupid." - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Wade Smart wrote: Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2009/9/26 Harold Fuchs : Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. The column with the numbers is formated as "number". I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the column. wade Hmmm. Now I'm really confused. My formula (the one with MID ...) just works on my system_s_ - Windows Vista Home Premium running OOo 3.1 and Windows XP Pro running OOo 2.4.1. The fact that you say you have to use commas in the formula instead of semicolons worries me. It makes me think you have some weird version of OOo and that this weirdness is also causing the error message. But I'm out of my depth here. Perhaps someone else could help??? Please. Well, could it be that he is not running an English version? For instance, the Swedish version (which I use) has its formula statements translated to Swedish (things like ”IF”, VLOOKUP” and, well, anything is translated to Swedish). Maybe it's the same thing with his version, but another language than English or Swedish (even the Swedish version use ”;” rather than ”,”). Just a thought. J.R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Im running an Eng version. Wade Ubuntuized OOo is based on go-oo, and for some reason they are using commas instead of semicolons in some formulas. Trouble is: They do not modify the help files to tell which formula parameters they have modified. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Conditional formatting
At 17:30 26/09/2009 -0500, Wade Smart wrote: My question is - I have 36 different cells to apply pretty much the same conditional formatting to. Is there a way to do this without doing it to each and every one? Yes: you need just to select all the cells at once before you apply the conditional formatting. You can usually do this with a combination of click, Shift+click, and Ctrl+click. Click selects a cell, of course. Shift+click extends the selection up to the cell you click in. Ctrl+click adds the relevant cell to the selection - but note that is a toggle, so it can also be used to remove a cell from the current selection. It may be fairly easy to select your 36 cells in this way, or it may be easier to do the job in two or three groups of cells. Linux since June 2005 Well, the above works in Windows, at least. I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Conditional formatting
OMG!!! hours and hours of work done in like an hour :D I have been cleaning up my sheets to make them easier to read now that these formulas from today are working. Last thing I want to do is format the background of the cell to one of two colors based on a series of numbers. I have that working. My question is - I have 36 different cells to apply pretty much the same conditional formatting to. Is there a way to do this without doing it to each and every one? Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Automatic copying
Wade, I get what you are saying. I will be download once every week into Cells A1 through A5 and reversing the order in B1 through B5. The first week the data will be in Cells B1 though B5. I will download new data the second week. That data will end up in Cells B1 through B5 AND the B1 through B5 cells will be directly below the B1 through B5 cells from the 1st week. I will do this for two weeks to learn how to do it on the spreadsheet. Explaining how to do it using A cells and B cells is good for understanding. It is another thing for me to do it on a spreadsheet at various locations On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Wade Smart wrote: > Walter Hildebrandt wrote: > >> I am using WindowsXP. >> Wade, I do not understand. What do you mean by Site 1, Site 2 etc >> >> Walter >> >> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Wade Smart wrote: >> >> Walter Hildebrandt wrote: >>> >>> Is it possible to do the following? 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a website. 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most efficient way to move the numbers? So each time you down load numbers the cells would copy again? >>> Site 1 = A1 - A5. >>> >>> Site 2 = A1 - A5 >>> Site 1 - B1 - B5 >>> >>> Site 3 = A1-A5 >>> Site 2 = B1-B5 >>> Site 1 = C1-C5 >>> >>> and so on. >>> Right? >>> >>> wade >>> >> > Ok. You are getting 5 values from a site. > Those go in A1-A5. > And you want to copy that to B1-B5. > > So Im assuming that you are going to be adding more data from the site as > you go. > > The first time you do it values are in A and then B. > The second time you do it the values move from B to C, and A to B. > > Get it? > > > wade > > -- > Registered Linux User: #480675 > Registered Linux Machine: #408606 > Linux since June 2005 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > >
Re: [users] Automatic copying
Johnny, You had the correct answer in your Email but I was so involved with the rest of your Email that I missed your correct answer. Walter Denver Colorado On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > 2009/9/26 Walter Hildebrandt : > > Is it possible to do the following? > > > > 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a > > website. > > 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 > > 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 > > 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 > > 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 > > 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 > > > > If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most > > efficient way to move the numbers? > > Exactly HOW do you ”download” those values? > > If you get the values to the spreadsheet by just copying (Ctrl+c) from > the website and then paste (Ctrl+v) to the spreadsheet, I would write > a macro for automatically pasting the values directly to wherever you > want them. No further copying or moving necessary. > > Otherwise, you could type =A5 into B1, =A4 into B2, then select B1 and > B2 and autofill until B5, I suppose. > > Just for curiosity, exactly WHY do you want to do this? Because it > doesn't make any sense at all to me, but then again, that is maybe > just because I don't know what you are trying to obtain. > > J.R. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > >
[users] Notes vs. Excel Comments
Is there a way to insert a note that has a picture, much as there is in Excel? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Automatic copying
Brian, it works great. It is so obvious and I never though of doing it that
way. I have been doing a lot of putting the equal sign (=) plus a cell into
a cell. I have been using the dollar sign ($), or not having a $ in the
cell address, so I am very experience with cell address. This may be
because what I wrote Jonny in regards unconscious thinking habits (Think
outside the box)
Walter
Denver Colorado
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 14:32 26/09/2009 -0600, Walter Hildebrandt wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to do the following?
>> 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a
>> website.
>> 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5
>>
>
> In B5, put =A1.
>
> 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4
>>
>
> In B4, put =A2.
>
> 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3
>>
>
> In B3, put =A3.
>
> 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2
>>
>
> In B2, put =A4.
>
> 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1
>>
>
> In B1, put =A5.
>
> You could have made the problem simpler by asking how to put in B1:B5 the
> values in A1:A5 but in reverse order. To do this, you could put
> =INDIRECT("A"&6-ROW())
> into B1 and then copy or fill it into all the cells up to B5.
>
> How does this work? ROW() returns the row number of the current
> (destination) cell. 6-ROW() calculates the row number of the required
> source cell. This is concatenated (using the & operator) with the letter A
> to create the name of the required source cell. But this is in the form of
> a text string instead of a cell reference; all we then need is the
> INDIRECT() function to do the conversion.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
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Re: [users] Automatic copying
Jonny, I have a very large speadsheet that is updated once a week by adding additional information from a website. In using the spreadsheet I found out that the more standardized the spreadsheet the easier it is to use. It is best if the numbers are in the same order at all different parts of the spreadsheet. For example, to explain what I mean, assume the numbers apply to the days of the week which they do not. At all parts of the spreadsheet Monday should be in cell A1, Tuesday in cell A2, Wednesday in cell A3 etc. It is not desirable to have Wednesday in cell A1 and Monday in cell C1 while the rest of the spreadsheet has the reverse order. An additional factor for me is that in the USA we tend to think in habitual patterns. I find that when skimming a large spreadsheet I always subconsciously think from left to right and from top to bottom. I download the numbers as follows On a website select a group of numbers > Right-click > Copy On the speadsheet click in a cell that will be the upper left cell for the group of numbers. That clicked upon cell will have numbers to its right and also numbers in rows below the clicked upon cell. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > 2009/9/26 Walter Hildebrandt : > > Is it possible to do the following? > > > > 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a > > website. > > 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 > > 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 > > 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 > > 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 > > 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 > > > > If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most > > efficient way to move the numbers? > > Exactly HOW do you ”download” those values? > > If you get the values to the spreadsheet by just copying (Ctrl+c) from > the website and then paste (Ctrl+v) to the spreadsheet, I would write > a macro for automatically pasting the values directly to wherever you > want them. No further copying or moving necessary. > > Otherwise, you could type =A5 into B1, =A4 into B2, then select B1 and > B2 and autofill until B5, I suppose. > > Just for curiosity, exactly WHY do you want to do this? Because it > doesn't make any sense at all to me, but then again, that is maybe > just because I don't know what you are trying to obtain. > > J.R. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > >
Re: [users] Adding values in columns as they become available
Brian Barker wrote: At 14:56 26/09/2009 -0500, Wade Smart wrote: Right working now on team standings in different clubs in the league. I have six teams (A2 to A7), D2 hold the points (3win, 1tie, 0loss). D2, h2, J2, K2, L2, N2, etc are date columns holding the points value. X2 to X7 is the Wins column, Y2 - 7 is the loss and z2-7 is the tie. So, what Im attempting to do is, =IF(D2=3, 1,"") - which works. But what I want to do is added up each column of wins. So, if D2 = 3 then x2 is three after the first game. Next week if F2 = 3 then x2 would equal 6. I fear you are contradicting yourself here. Your suggested formula *counts* the wins, whereas what you ask for later is the *sum of the point scores* for those wins. But you can do either, of course. If I understand you correctly, you can count the wins with =COUNTIF(D2:D7;"=3") and you can sum them with either =COUNTIF(D2:D7;"=3")*3 or =SUMIF(D2:D7;"=3") I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Brian, you were thinking X when I was thinking Y :D The names of the teams are in column A and the game dates are in row 1 with the point value of each game in every other column. But just before you posted I swapped everything around, dates in Col A and Teams in Row 1 and then with your answers, which by the way I was just trying to figure out countif myself, things cleared right up :D I really appreciate having groups like this because, while doing this volunteer work which takes hours and hours of time I find myself asking question of how can I do this more efficiently and what I learn here I will absolutely use again and again. So, thanks :D! Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Formatting Codes in Find; Barbara
Someone more clever than I, Barbara, sent us an explanation of how to enter Codes in Linux, Ubuntu specifically. It began something like Ctrl-Sh-u, then the 3-digit number of the character. My computer hung while it was entertaining a command to mark the message and erase other messages. The message above, from Barbara, got dumped. Will she send it again to me alone? If your name is not Barbara, keep on moving down the line. James Liebert Akron
Re: [users] Automatic copying
At 14:32 26/09/2009 -0600, Walter Hildebrandt wrote:
Is it possible to do the following?
1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from
a website.
2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5
In B5, put =A1.
3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4
In B4, put =A2.
4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3
In B3, put =A3.
5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2
In B2, put =A4.
6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1
In B1, put =A5.
You could have made the problem simpler by asking how to put in B1:B5
the values in A1:A5 but in reverse order. To do this, you could put
=INDIRECT("A"&6-ROW())
into B1 and then copy or fill it into all the cells up to B5.
How does this work? ROW() returns the row number of the current
(destination) cell. 6-ROW() calculates the row number of the
required source cell. This is concatenated (using the & operator)
with the letter A to create the name of the required source
cell. But this is in the form of a text string instead of a cell
reference; all we then need is the INDIRECT() function to do the conversion.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2009/9/26 Harold Fuchs : Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. The column with the numbers is formated as "number". I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the column. wade Hmmm. Now I'm really confused. My formula (the one with MID ...) just works on my system_s_ - Windows Vista Home Premium running OOo 3.1 and Windows XP Pro running OOo 2.4.1. The fact that you say you have to use commas in the formula instead of semicolons worries me. It makes me think you have some weird version of OOo and that this weirdness is also causing the error message. But I'm out of my depth here. Perhaps someone else could help??? Please. Well, could it be that he is not running an English version? For instance, the Swedish version (which I use) has its formula statements translated to Swedish (things like ”IF”, VLOOKUP” and, well, anything is translated to Swedish). Maybe it's the same thing with his version, but another language than English or Swedish (even the Swedish version use ”;” rather than ”,”). Just a thought. J.R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Im running an Eng version. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Automatic copying
Walter Hildebrandt wrote: I am using WindowsXP. Wade, I do not understand. What do you mean by Site 1, Site 2 etc Walter On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Wade Smart wrote: Walter Hildebrandt wrote: Is it possible to do the following? 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a website. 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most efficient way to move the numbers? So each time you down load numbers the cells would copy again? Site 1 = A1 - A5. Site 2 = A1 - A5 Site 1 - B1 - B5 Site 3 = A1-A5 Site 2 = B1-B5 Site 1 = C1-C5 and so on. Right? wade Ok. You are getting 5 values from a site. Those go in A1-A5. And you want to copy that to B1-B5. So Im assuming that you are going to be adding more data from the site as you go. The first time you do it values are in A and then B. The second time you do it the values move from B to C, and A to B. Get it? wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Automatic copying
2009/9/26 Walter Hildebrandt : > Is it possible to do the following? > > 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a > website. > 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 > 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 > 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 > 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 > 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 > > If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most > efficient way to move the numbers? Exactly HOW do you ”download” those values? If you get the values to the spreadsheet by just copying (Ctrl+c) from the website and then paste (Ctrl+v) to the spreadsheet, I would write a macro for automatically pasting the values directly to wherever you want them. No further copying or moving necessary. Otherwise, you could type =A5 into B1, =A4 into B2, then select B1 and B2 and autofill until B5, I suppose. Just for curiosity, exactly WHY do you want to do this? Because it doesn't make any sense at all to me, but then again, that is maybe just because I don't know what you are trying to obtain. J.R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
2009/9/26 Harold Fuchs : > Wade Smart wrote: >> >> Harold Fuchs wrote: >>> >>> 2009/9/26 Wade Smart >>> Harold Fuchs wrote: > 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two > > characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the > strings > are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into > column B > the formula > > =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) > > In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function > is > much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. > I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade >>> Two questions: >>> >>> 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your >>> "numbers"? >>> >>> 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell >>> containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? >>> >>> >> >> The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. >> The column with the numbers is formated as "number". >> >> I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the >> column. >> >> wade > > Hmmm. Now I'm really confused. My formula (the one with MID ...) just works > on my system_s_ - Windows Vista Home Premium running OOo 3.1 and Windows XP > Pro running OOo 2.4.1. > > The fact that you say you have to use commas in the formula instead of > semicolons worries me. It makes me think you have some weird version of OOo > and that this weirdness is also causing the error message. But I'm out of my > depth here. Perhaps someone else could help??? Please. > Well, could it be that he is not running an English version? For instance, the Swedish version (which I use) has its formula statements translated to Swedish (things like ”IF”, VLOOKUP” and, well, anything is translated to Swedish). Maybe it's the same thing with his version, but another language than English or Swedish (even the Swedish version use ”;” rather than ”,”). Just a thought. J.R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Adding values in columns as they become available
At 14:56 26/09/2009 -0500, Wade Smart wrote: Right working now on team standings in different clubs in the league. I have six teams (A2 to A7), D2 hold the points (3win, 1tie, 0loss). D2, h2, J2, K2, L2, N2, etc are date columns holding the points value. X2 to X7 is the Wins column, Y2 - 7 is the loss and z2-7 is the tie. So, what Im attempting to do is, =IF(D2=3, 1,"") - which works. But what I want to do is added up each column of wins. So, if D2 = 3 then x2 is three after the first game. Next week if F2 = 3 then x2 would equal 6. I fear you are contradicting yourself here. Your suggested formula *counts* the wins, whereas what you ask for later is the *sum of the point scores* for those wins. But you can do either, of course. If I understand you correctly, you can count the wins with =COUNTIF(D2:D7;"=3") and you can sum them with either =COUNTIF(D2:D7;"=3")*3 or =SUMIF(D2:D7;"=3") I trust this helps. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Automatic copying
I am using WindowsXP. Wade, I do not understand. What do you mean by Site 1, Site 2 etc Walter On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Wade Smart wrote: > Walter Hildebrandt wrote: > >> Is it possible to do the following? >> >> 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a >> website. >> 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 >> 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 >> 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 >> 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 >> 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 >> >> If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most >> efficient way to move the numbers? >> >> > So each time you down load numbers the cells would copy again? > Site 1 = A1 - A5. > > Site 2 = A1 - A5 > Site 1 - B1 - B5 > > Site 3 = A1-A5 > Site 2 = B1-B5 > Site 1 = C1-C5 > > and so on. > Right? > > wade > -- > Registered Linux User: #480675 > Registered Linux Machine: #408606 > Linux since June 2005 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > >
Re: [users] Automatic copying
Walter Hildebrandt wrote: Is it possible to do the following? 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a website. 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most efficient way to move the numbers? So each time you down load numbers the cells would copy again? Site 1 = A1 - A5. Site 2 = A1 - A5 Site 1 - B1 - B5 Site 3 = A1-A5 Site 2 = B1-B5 Site 1 = C1-C5 and so on. Right? wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Automatic copying
Is it possible to do the following? 1. Cells A1, A2, A3, A4, and A5 get numbers that are downloaded from a website. 2. The number in Cell A1 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B5 3. The number in Cell A2 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B4 4. The number in Cell A3 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B3 5. The number in Cell A4 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B2 6. The number in Cell A5 is automatically moved to (copied to) cell B1 If it is not possible to move the numbers automatically, what is the most efficient way to move the numbers?
Re: [users] Adding values in columns as they become available
Wade Smart wrote: Alright. Im really getting stuff done today learning to use more of these functions Based on the questions and answers from earlier and I moved on to tackle more difficult things. Right working now on team standings in different clubs in the league. I have six teams (A2 to A7), D2 hold the points (3win, 1tie, 0loss). D2, h2, J2, K2, L2, N2, etc are date columns holding the points value. X2 to X7 is the Wins column, Y2 - 7 is the loss and z2-7 is the tie. So, what Im attempting to do is, =IF(D2=3, 1,"") - which works. But what I want to do is added up each column of wins. So, if D2 = 3 then x2 is three after the first game. Next week if F2 = 3 then x2 would equal 6. Im just not sure how to go about that. Wade Ah, Never mind. GOT IT!!! :D Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Harold Fuchs wrote: Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. The column with the numbers is formated as "number". I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the column. wade Hmmm. Now I'm really confused. My formula (the one with MID ...) just works on my system_s_ - Windows Vista Home Premium running OOo 3.1 and Windows XP Pro running OOo 2.4.1. The fact that you say you have to use commas in the formula instead of semicolons worries me. It makes me think you have some weird version of OOo and that this weirdness is also causing the error message. But I'm out of my depth here. Perhaps someone else could help??? Please. Im on ubuntu 9.04 with OO 3.0.1, OOO300m15 Build: 9379. Pradeep Srinivas of this list figured it out. But its not a big deal as we do have something working - its really helping with my work load :D Thanks for the help Harold. -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Adding values in columns as they become available
Alright. Im really getting stuff done today learning to use more of these functions Based on the questions and answers from earlier and I moved on to tackle more difficult things. Right working now on team standings in different clubs in the league. I have six teams (A2 to A7), D2 hold the points (3win, 1tie, 0loss). D2, h2, J2, K2, L2, N2, etc are date columns holding the points value. X2 to X7 is the Wins column, Y2 - 7 is the loss and z2-7 is the tie. So, what Im attempting to do is, =IF(D2=3, 1,"") - which works. But what I want to do is added up each column of wins. So, if D2 = 3 then x2 is three after the first game. Next week if F2 = 3 then x2 would equal 6. Im just not sure how to go about that. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. The column with the numbers is formated as "number". I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the column. wade Hmmm. Now I'm really confused. My formula (the one with MID ...) just works on my system_s_ - Windows Vista Home Premium running OOo 3.1 and Windows XP Pro running OOo 2.4.1. The fact that you say you have to use commas in the formula instead of semicolons worries me. It makes me think you have some weird version of OOo and that this weirdness is also causing the error message. But I'm out of my depth here. Perhaps someone else could help??? Please. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Barbara Duprey wrote: Gene Young wrote: twoinfount...@peoplepc.com wrote: PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAIL LIST THANKS You are not subscribed with the email address you used to post this message to this list. If you are still receiving messages from this list YOU need to figure out what YOU did to get these emails. No one on this list can remove anyone. If you subscribed with a different email address that is forwarded to the one you are using YOU will have to determine that as no one else can. Gene Y. Gene, I think that was his subscribed address. He sent this message to "respond" to two different threads, but in neither case was it routed through the moderator (at least, the usual header was not there). Am I missing something? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Odd, For some reason this email address was tagged as unsubscribed by my mail client. Don't know why it did that, but since he likes to shout I won't see him any more. He has been banished to the land of plonkazoids. -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Photos in DataBase
In a message dated 2009.09.26 12:31 -0500, jomali wrote: ... I am transcribing a cemetery and I need to be able to attach one or more photos to each entry I make. How do I do this? There is a tutorial on this at: http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1imag.htm Keith, I'm not the OP, but I took a look at this, and am immediately lost: After a bit of preliminary pleasantries discussing the bird photos, the author launches right into "And now for the data entry form..." - which presumes an pre-existing database and tables. I feel like I walked into the middle of a discussion. Did I miss something? I don't understand your comment. I visited the link and found that the author gives detailed instructions for setting up the database before the sentence you cite. I don't see how you missed that material... John, you are quite right, and I can't excuse my sloppy reading of the material. Sorry to clutter the list with a stupid question. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Inability To Enter Formatting Code in Find Field
2009/9/26 Harold Fuchs : > Sorry to reply to my own post but ... > > If you are on a Windows system and you use the wonderful, free program > AllChars (http://allchars.zwolnet.com/) for entering accented characters, > ligatures etc. then you can enter a non-breaking space with the 3-character > sequence Ctrl s p; that is hit (do *not* hold down) the Ctrl key followed by > s followed by p. > > I tried and, yes of course it works in the Find or Replace box in Writer > *without* you having to use Regular Expressions. Yes, AllChars ”emulates” the Unix/Linux style of entering special characters. If you are on Linux (at least Ubuntu, I can't say much about other distributions), there is also another way, better in that matter that ou can enter every UTF-8 character there is to enter: Ctrl+Shift+u → Release keys → enter the hex code, in this case a0 → hit ↵(Enter). This works for any UTF-8 character, such as: ☏☠←↑↓→⇨↵¶⅛¼⅜½⅝¾⅞⅓⅔⅕⅖⅗⅘⅚⅙×·☹¡☺¿πΩωφ©℗℃℉⚀⚁⚂⚃⚄⚅τ♢♣♡♠⡺⡻⡼⥻⧒⩽⩾のあタㄞ亁乬亜亹亶廬靈 etc etc (there are thousands of them, but few fonts contains all of them, so you need additional fonts in some cases). J.R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Mailing list
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[users] Re: Inability To Enter Formatting Code in Find Field
On 09/26/2009 02:02 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: > 2009/9/26 James R. Liebert > >> See >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22725 >> for identification of deficiency. >> >> I hope someone more clever will show me how to enter a non-breaking >> space in the Find or Replace fields in respect to Writer, so I may find >> or replace. Yes, I know how to enter it into document text and how to >> copy and paste. I was hoping for a more elegant solution, as ancient as >> in Word 97. >> >> I have made a cursory and futile investigation in OO for way to insert >> something analogous to "^t" in Find field, which is the Tab character in >> Word 97. >> >> There are lots of such code character commands waiting to be discovered. >> >> James Liebert >> Akron, Ohio >> >> In the Find & Replace dialogue > >- click More Options >- check Regular expressions >- in the Find box enter "\x00A0" without the quotes \xA0 works just find & saves you a few extra key strokes :-) They (Barbara?) should put this in the Regex table (List of Regular Expressions) in the help section. Just as easy (or easier as you don't have to remember '\xA0'): View|Field Shadings| find the first occurrence of a non-breaking space & paste into the 'Search for' box. No need for regex's. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAIL LIST THANKS - Original Message - From: "Harold Fuchs" To: Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [users] number extraction for a formula 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart JOE Conner wrote: Wade Smart wrote: I have a group of numbers in a column 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 and I need to take the fourth set of numbers, in this case the 71, and subtract it from the current year to get the age of the item. Ideas on how to do that? Wade Is this a spreadsheet column or is it writer? Sorry, spreed sheet. Wade Assume the numbers are in column A. 1. Copy column A to column B 2. Select column B 3. Go to the Find & Replace menu 4. In the Find box enter "[:digit:]+-[:digit:]+-[:digit:]+-([:digit:]+)-[:digit:].*" without the quotes 5. In the Replace box enter "$1" without the quotes 6. Click More Options 7. Check Regular expressions 8. Check Current selection only 9. Click Replace All 10. The values in column B will change so that it only contains the 4th number in each row. 11. In column C enter an appropriate formula such as "=YEAR(NOW())-(B1+1900)" assuming the "71" in your example means 1971. Hey, thats great. Ok. Anyway I can do this without having to add in this extra column each time I do the sheet? Wade Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org --- Text inserted by Panda GP 2009: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_523&SPAM=true&path=C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Panda%20Security\Panda%20Global%20Protection%202009\AntiSpam --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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Timo Lynch wrote: It may be about stupidity but whose. Before labeling those trying unsuccessfully as stupid, please consider that since it happens so many times there may be a problem. I have tried on numerous occasions to unsubscribe following the posted directions but without success. I have confirmed that the email I use is the one I have subscribed with and that my ISP is not blocking any of the responses that should be generated. I might suggest others try to unsubscribe to confirm that the process works. The fact that many seem to have repeated difficulty does suggest something other than user ineptitude. Tim And you clearly did not read and/or understand my tongue in cheek response. What category does that place you in? Or do we need a new one for "can't/won't/refuses to get anything but straight slapstick humor?" Lighten up. There will always be a small percentage who just won't get it or even try. You deal with them with humor, not rancor. Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
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[users] Re: Mailing list
On 09/26/2009 10:22 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2009/09/26 9:45 AM NoOp wrote: >> Another issue is the OOo support page itself: >> http://support.openoffice.org/index.html >> >> >> Users Mail List (Subscribe / Archives) >> OpenOffice.org Project community support provided by a network of >> hundreds of experienced users. You must be subscribed to post messages. >> >> >> While most longtime OOo list users applaud the 'Subscribe' link, I think >> it also is part of the problem. Again, someone that has no experience >> with email lists, clicks on the link >> (mailto:users-subscr...@openoffice.org) and gets subscribed. > > No they don't. They get a confirmation email that they have to reply to > before they are subscribed. Well yes they do. However, as we (tiaw) know, many folks will go ahead and reply while still not understanding what an email list is, not to mention a medium volume email list. Many are used to subscribing to online help forums, not email lists. > > If they can figure out that they have to respond to it, why can't they > figure out how to respond to the confirmation email when they try to > unsubscribe? You can figure it out, I can figure it out... but then again we *know* what an email list is[1]. Think AOL & set up a subscribe page like the one that I pointed to (https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users) instead. [1] disclaimer: I subscribe to, and post on many _high_ volume lists each day. However, would _never_ do this if I had to mess with downloading thousands of emails each day. Instead I participate on those lists using nntp via the gmane.org server. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Harold Fuchs wrote: 2009/9/26 Wade Smart Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? The spreed sheet is sent to me with certain information already in it. The column with the numbers is formated as "number". I see the number as printed above aligned to the left hand side of the column. wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade I took one of the numbers and changed it to text and this worked fine. But when I change it back to number, it does not. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
2009/9/26 Wade Smart > Harold Fuchs wrote: > >> 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 >>> >> > Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two >>> >> characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings >> are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B >> the formula >> >>=YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) >> >> In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is >> much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. >> > > I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. > > On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the > error. > > Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a > number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? > > > Wade > > Two questions: 1. How *exactly* have you formatted the column containing your "numbers"? 2. If you select a single one of your "number" cells, say the cell containing your example, *exactly* what do you see in the Input line? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Mailing list
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS/YOUR MAILING LIST THANK YOU - Original Message - From: "Timo Lynch" To: Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: RE: [users] Mailing list It may be about stupidity but whose. Before labeling those trying unsuccessfully as stupid, please consider that since it happens so many times there may be a problem. I have tried on numerous occasions to unsubscribe following the posted directions but without success. I have confirmed that the email I use is the one I have subscribed with and that my ISP is not blocking any of the responses that should be generated. I might suggest others try to unsubscribe to confirm that the process works. The fact that many seem to have repeated difficulty does suggest something other than user ineptitude. Tim -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:24 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Mailing list AG wrote: Wade Smart wrote: Victoria Ceolin wrote: Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks lod...@sympatico.ca Bottom of the list | V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Given the number of times that these requests come through to the list, I wonder if something might be open to a common misinterpretation of the instructions to unsubscribe. The instructions are clear to most, but clearly not to a recurring minority and these all come into this list somehow. Can this be fixed by the list administrator? AG As Ron White once said "You Cain't fix stupid!" This also applies to "lazy." There will always be a select minority who are too stupid, too ignorant or too lazy to follow directions. I don't blame the stupid because that is hereditary and can not be avoided. That being said, I have no patience for the ignorant because ignorance is easily cured by a little effort. That leads to the lazy who can not be bothered to cure their ignorance. Unfortunately, I do not believe the administrator(s) can fix the above. -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org --- Text inserted by Panda GP 2009: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_527&SPAM=true&path=C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Panda%20Security\Panda%20Global%20Protection%202009\AntiSpam --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
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Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
2009/9/26 Wade Smart > Harold Fuchs wrote: > >> 2009/9/26 Wade Smart >> >> JOE Conner wrote: >>> >>> Wade Smart wrote: I have a group of numbers in a column > 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 > and I need to take the fourth set of numbers, in this case the 71, and > subtract it from the current year to get the age of the item. > > Ideas on how to do that? > > Wade > > Is this a spreadsheet column or is it writer? Sorry, spreed sheet. >>> >>> >>> Wade >>> >>> Assume the numbers are in column A. >>> >> >> 1. Copy column A to column B >> 2. Select column B >> 3. Go to the Find & Replace menu >> 4. In the Find box enter >> "[:digit:]+-[:digit:]+-[:digit:]+-([:digit:]+)-[:digit:].*" without the >> quotes >> 5. In the Replace box enter "$1" without the quotes >> 6. Click More Options >> 7. Check Regular expressions >> 8. Check Current selection only >> 9. Click Replace All >> 10. The values in column B will change so that it only contains the 4th >> number in each row. >> 11. In column C enter an appropriate formula such as >> "=YEAR(NOW())-(B1+1900)" assuming the "71" in your example means 1971. >> >> >> >> > Hey, thats great. > Ok. Anyway I can do this without having to add in this extra column each > time I do the sheet? > > > Wade > > > Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
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[users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list
On 09/26/2009 03:20 AM, John Kaufmann wrote: Let me digress to ask what should be a basic question ... ... Is that the way it is supposed to be done? That looks about right. In this case, I think there's actually another step. When you Insert > Frame, then apply a frame style that changes the anchoring to "as character", the frame invariably ends up in the wrong place, so you have to cut/paste the styled frame to the proper location. Even though the frame style properties dialog does not show the anchoring type, the property is part of the frame style. You can see it in the property list on the "Organizer" tab in the style dialog (although it seems to be labeled "To character" instead of "As character"). You can set the property by creating a fully configured sample frame, then create (or update) the style using "New style from selection" in the "Styles and Formatting" window. For content like this, I usually just copy/paste an already-finished instance, then edit to change the content. If I were really organized, I would make a formatted sample and use it to create an 'AutoText'. Then I could insert a new instance, ready to edit, with just a few keystrokes. (It seems to be 3-4 steps too many.) ... [<*> Annoyance: ... Am I missing something about this, or is this just an inexcusable, if minor, design lapse?] "It's not how well the elephant dances, it's that she can dance at all." As a dyed-in-the-wool perfectionist, I found that, working with OOo, I had to lower the bar to avoid a lot of wasted time and energy, not to mention losing more of what little sanity I have left. OOo is mostly still scraping by at the subsistence "Make it work" level; "Make it work /well/" is a luxury and mostly out of reach. When you say "line-break" are you referring to what the Help calls "line break" (Shift+Enter), or do you mean the paragraph break produced by a simple Enter? A line break, inserted by Shift+Enter; displayed as a "down+left" arrow when View > Nonprinting characters is on.
Re: [users] Mailing list
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Re: [users] Mailing list
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Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list
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RE: [users] Mailing list
It may be about stupidity but whose. Before labeling those trying unsuccessfully as stupid, please consider that since it happens so many times there may be a problem. I have tried on numerous occasions to unsubscribe following the posted directions but without success. I have confirmed that the email I use is the one I have subscribed with and that my ISP is not blocking any of the responses that should be generated. I might suggest others try to unsubscribe to confirm that the process works. The fact that many seem to have repeated difficulty does suggest something other than user ineptitude. Tim -Original Message- From: Gene Young [mailto:n2...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:24 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] Mailing list AG wrote: > Wade Smart wrote: >> Victoria Ceolin wrote: >>> Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks >>> lod...@sympatico.ca >>> >> >> Bottom of the list | >>V >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org >> >> > Given the number of times that these requests come through to the list, > I wonder if something might be open to a common misinterpretation of the > instructions to unsubscribe. > > The instructions are clear to most, but clearly not to a recurring > minority and these all come into this list somehow. > > Can this be fixed by the list administrator? > > AG > As Ron White once said "You Cain't fix stupid!" This also applies to "lazy." There will always be a select minority who are too stupid, too ignorant or too lazy to follow directions. I don't blame the stupid because that is hereditary and can not be avoided. That being said, I have no patience for the ignorant because ignorance is easily cured by a little effort. That leads to the lazy who can not be bothered to cure their ignorance. Unfortunately, I do not believe the administrator(s) can fix the above. -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Or statement in If/else
Hi Wade use this =IF(OR (O3=80; O3 25);"spring2010";"fall2009") I am using the GermanOOO version there is ; (Semikolen) the marker between the positions best Regards Franz Wein Wade Smart schrieb: =IF(O3=80 or 25,"spring2010","fall2009") I dont know if this is possible or not but, I would like to do something like: IF O3 = 80 OR 25.. but || and OR isnt working. Suggestions? wade - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unsubscribe [was Re: Paragraph with enclosed list]
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Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAIL LIST THANK YOU - Original Message - From: "John Kaufmann" To: Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list In a message dated 2009.09.26 00:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote: - I can make the frame, and put the list in it; so far, so good. - I can anchor the frame to a character - but which character to make it stay where is belongs, ... The anchor is "_as_ character," not "_to_ character". An object anchored "as character" will become part of the text layout, acting just like an oversized character. Ah. Sorry for that sloppy oversight. Let me digress to ask what should be a basic question - yet is not covered in OO Help: How do you invoke a frame of a particular style? The documentation at oooauthors.org seems to confirm my tedious process: (1) Insert | Frame | OK - which inserts a frame of style "Frame"<*> and opens the frame styles pane. (2) In the frame styles pane, double-click on the desired style (which I have named "Embedded_list"), to change from default frame style "Frame"<*> to frame style "Embedded_list". (3) [optional] Right-click in the new frame and choose "Anchor" => anchor_type. (4) Click anywhere /outside/ the new frame to take the focus off frame attributes. (5) Click /inside/ the new frame to put the focus on a text insertion point inside the frame. Is that the way it is supposed to be done? (It seems to be 3-4 steps too many.) [<*> Annoyance: - The default Page style is named "Default". - The default Paragraph style is named "Default". - The default Character style is named "Default". So why is the default Frame style named "Frame"? - complicating discussions, as in step (2) above. Am I missing something about this, or is this just an inexcusable, if minor, design lapse?] The structure of the paragraph is: [text body paragraph...[line-break] [frame [list paragraph] [list paragraph] ... ][line-break] ...after text ] When you say "line-break" are you referring to what the Help calls "line break" (Shift+Enter), or do you mean the paragraph break produced by a simple Enter? "As character" is a very useful type of anchoring since Writer's other anchoring modes can be somewhat unstable and difficult to manage, as you noticed already. I anchor things "as character" rather than "to paragraph" wherever possible. Anchor modes are *somewhat* unstable? - you have a talent for understatement. A simple test: Try changing from the default "To Paragraph" to "As Character" to "To Character" and back to "To Paragraph" - is the frame still in the same place? But then, "As Character" is tough to pin down exactly /where/ the anchor resides (without a "reveal codes" function). I thought to examine your example, to see how the frame is anchored and possibly examine style characteristics, but it's read-only, so none of the information is available. Any thoughts? A 'read-only' document status in OOo is purely advisory: you can toggle the read-only status just by clicking the "Edit File" button on the toolbar--it's about fifth from the left and carries an icon that looks like a pencil and paper. Ah, yes; I should have known that, which makes your reply all the more valuable. [For anyone reading this who also did not know: The "Edit File" button is on the Standard toolbar - which I had kept turned off to maximize workspace.] John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org --- Text inserted by Panda GP 2009: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_519&SPAM=true&path=C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Panda%20Security\Panda%20Global%20Protection%202009\AntiSpam --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Inability To Enter Formatting Code in Find Field
2009/9/26 Harold Fuchs > > > 2009/9/26 James R. Liebert > > See >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22725 >> for identification of deficiency. >> >> I hope someone more clever will show me how to enter a non-breaking >> space in the Find or Replace fields in respect to Writer, so I may find >> or replace. Yes, I know how to enter it into document text and how to >> copy and paste. I was hoping for a more elegant solution, as ancient as >> in Word 97. >> >> I have made a cursory and futile investigation in OO for way to insert >> something analogous to "^t" in Find field, which is the Tab character in >> Word 97. >> >> There are lots of such code character commands waiting to be discovered. >> >> James Liebert >> Akron, Ohio >> >> In the Find & Replace dialogue > >- click More Options >- check Regular expressions >- in the Find box enter "\x00A0" without the quotes >- optionally check "Current selection only" and/or "Backwards" > > You can now find, find all, replace, ... to your heart's content. > > The "\x00A0" means hexadecimal A0 which is decimal 160 which is the ANSI > (American National Standards Institute) code for a non-breaking space. > > You could write a macro ... > > Or you could use the Insert>Special Character menu where it's the 5th > character after lower-case z in the Latin-1 table. > > > Sorry to reply to my own post but ... If you are on a Windows system and you use the wonderful, free program AllChars (http://allchars.zwolnet.com/) for entering accented characters, ligatures etc. then you can enter a non-breaking space with the 3-character sequence Ctrl s p; that is hit (do *not* hold down) the Ctrl key followed by s followed by p. I tried and, yes of course it works in the Find or Replace box in Writer *without* you having to use Regular Expressions. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] number extraction for a formula
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST THANK YOU - Original Message - From: "Wade Smart" To: Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [users] number extraction for a formula Wade Smart wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: 265879-09-24-71-918-333-0055 Assuming the "71" part of your string is always in the same position - two characters long, starting at the 14th character - and assuming the strings are in column A and you want answers in column B, then enter into column B the formula =YEAR(NOW())-1900-VALUE(MID(A1;14;2)) In fact, if your strings are fixed format then using the MID function is much easier than my previous solution using Regular Expressions. I get ERROR: 502 when I try this. On my version of OO I have to use , instead of ; - though I still get the error. Question. I looked up Value and it says it converts a text string to a number. If we are already working on a number, is that needed? Wade I took one of the numbers and changed it to text and this worked fine. But when I change it back to number, it does not. Wade -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org --- Text inserted by Panda GP 2009: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: http://localhost:6083/Panda?ID=pav_539&SPAM=true&path=C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\Panda%20Security\Panda%20Global%20Protection%202009\AntiSpam --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Inability To Enter Formatting Code in Find Field
2009/9/26 James R. Liebert > See > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22725 > for identification of deficiency. > > I hope someone more clever will show me how to enter a non-breaking > space in the Find or Replace fields in respect to Writer, so I may find > or replace. Yes, I know how to enter it into document text and how to > copy and paste. I was hoping for a more elegant solution, as ancient as > in Word 97. > > I have made a cursory and futile investigation in OO for way to insert > something analogous to "^t" in Find field, which is the Tab character in > Word 97. > > There are lots of such code character commands waiting to be discovered. > > James Liebert > Akron, Ohio > > In the Find & Replace dialogue - click More Options - check Regular expressions - in the Find box enter "\x00A0" without the quotes - optionally check "Current selection only" and/or "Backwards" You can now find, find all, replace, ... to your heart's content. The "\x00A0" means hexadecimal A0 which is decimal 160 which is the ANSI (American National Standards Institute) code for a non-breaking space. You could write a macro ... Or you could use the Insert>Special Character menu where it's the 5th character after lower-case z in the Latin-1 table. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Mailing list
On 09/25/2009 07:24 PM, Gene Young wrote: > AG wrote: >> Wade Smart wrote: >>> Victoria Ceolin wrote: Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks lod...@sympatico.ca >>> >>> Bottom of the list | >>>V >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org >>> >>> >> Given the number of times that these requests come through to the list, >> I wonder if something might be open to a common misinterpretation of the >> instructions to unsubscribe. >> >> The instructions are clear to most, but clearly not to a recurring >> minority and these all come into this list somehow. >> >> Can this be fixed by the list administrator? >> >> AG >> > > As Ron White once said "You Cain't fix stupid!" This also applies to > "lazy." There will always be a select minority who are too stupid, too > ignorant or too lazy to follow directions. I don't blame the stupid > because that is hereditary and can not be avoided. That being said, I > have no patience for the ignorant because ignorance is easily cured by a > little effort. That leads to the lazy who can not be bothered to cure > their ignorance. Unfortunately, I do not believe the administrator(s) > can fix the above. Please keep in mind that some (many?) of these requests may have come from "users" that purchases OOo from unscrupulous scammers that sell OOo links & then promise to provide full support. What they do is charge the person for a link to OOo mirrors (some of which may be government funded universities - making this illegal in some cases), and then automatically sign the person up to this list for support. Any person that has fallen for this scam most likely has never heard of, or experienced, an email list. Next thing they know, they are flooded with OOo list messages. They then try to unsubscribe - sometimes they are successful, sometimes not. All you need to do it check the archives for examples. Another issue is the OOo support page itself: http://support.openoffice.org/index.html Users Mail List (Subscribe / Archives) OpenOffice.org Project community support provided by a network of hundreds of experienced users. You must be subscribed to post messages. While most longtime OOo list users applaud the 'Subscribe' link, I think it also is part of the problem. Again, someone that has no experience with email lists, clicks on the link (mailto:users-subscr...@openoffice.org) and gets subscribed. Rather than doing that, the link (IMO) should instead go directly to: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html where the prospective list member can read information about the list first. That, or a similar page explaining list basics, and explaining that they are about to: 1) be subscribed to possible high volume email list, and 2) clear instructions on how to unsubscribe if they find that they don't wish to continue. This page could also serve as the subscribe/unsubscribe form in the same manner used by other lists. See the following for an example: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Paragraph with enclosed list
In a message dated 2009.09.26 00:07 -0500, Joe Smith wrote: - I can make the frame, and put the list in it; so far, so good. - I can anchor the frame to a character - but which character to make it stay where is belongs, ... The anchor is "_as_ character," not "_to_ character". An object anchored "as character" will become part of the text layout, acting just like an oversized character. Ah. Sorry for that sloppy oversight. Let me digress to ask what should be a basic question - yet is not covered in OO Help: How do you invoke a frame of a particular style? The documentation at oooauthors.org seems to confirm my tedious process: (1) Insert | Frame | OK - which inserts a frame of style "Frame"<*> and opens the frame styles pane. (2) In the frame styles pane, double-click on the desired style (which I have named "Embedded_list"), to change from default frame style "Frame"<*> to frame style "Embedded_list". (3) [optional] Right-click in the new frame and choose "Anchor" => anchor_type. (4) Click anywhere /outside/ the new frame to take the focus off frame attributes. (5) Click /inside/ the new frame to put the focus on a text insertion point inside the frame. Is that the way it is supposed to be done? (It seems to be 3-4 steps too many.) [<*> Annoyance: - The default Page style is named "Default". - The default Paragraph style is named "Default". - The default Character style is named "Default". So why is the default Frame style named "Frame"? - complicating discussions, as in step (2) above. Am I missing something about this, or is this just an inexcusable, if minor, design lapse?] The structure of the paragraph is: [text body paragraph...[line-break] [frame [list paragraph] [list paragraph] ... ][line-break] ...after text ] When you say "line-break" are you referring to what the Help calls "line break" (Shift+Enter), or do you mean the paragraph break produced by a simple Enter? "As character" is a very useful type of anchoring since Writer's other anchoring modes can be somewhat unstable and difficult to manage, as you noticed already. I anchor things "as character" rather than "to paragraph" wherever possible. Anchor modes are *somewhat* unstable? - you have a talent for understatement. A simple test: Try changing from the default "To Paragraph" to "As Character" to "To Character" and back to "To Paragraph" - is the frame still in the same place? But then, "As Character" is tough to pin down exactly /where/ the anchor resides (without a "reveal codes" function). I thought to examine your example, to see how the frame is anchored and possibly examine style characteristics, but it's read-only, so none of the information is available. Any thoughts? A 'read-only' document status in OOo is purely advisory: you can toggle the read-only status just by clicking the "Edit File" button on the toolbar--it's about fifth from the left and carries an icon that looks like a pencil and paper. Ah, yes; I should have known that, which makes your reply all the more valuable. [For anyone reading this who also did not know: The "Edit File" button is on the Standard toolbar - which I had kept turned off to maximize workspace.] John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Word spacing
John Kaufmann wrote: ;-) Setting aside the question of what that does to document size... Increases it by about 10% on the document I tried this with. What is the size of the /next/ space when the document is edited? Well I was envisaging this as something one might do just before printing the document. As I say, I have never had any need to do this, so I was assuming that the point of doing it was to improve the "look" of the document when printed. But maybe you have a different purpose in mind? It's the best suggestion I can offer anyway... Best wishes Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] [users] Photos in DataBase
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:28 PM, John Kaufmann wrote: > In a message dated 2009.09.06 19:54 -0500, Keith Bates wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 13:47 -0700, Susan Wallace-Masse wrote: > >> ... I am transcribing a cemetery and I need to be able to attach >>> one or more photos to each entry I make. How do I do this? >>> >> >> There is a tutorial on this at: >> http://sheepdogguides.com/fdb/fdb1imag.htm >> > > Keith, I'm not the OP, but I took a look at this, and am immediately lost: > After a bit of preliminary pleasantries discussing the bird photos, the > author launches right into "And now for the data entry for..." - which > presumes an pre-existing database and tables. I feel like I walked into the > middle of a discussion. Did I miss something? > > John > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org I don't understand your comment. I visited the link and found that the author gives detailed instructions for setting up the database before the sentence you cite. I don't see how you missed that material, or how you dismiss it as "preliminary pleasantries". He gives enough information for even the least instructed on using Base to follow his tutorial. John
