[users] print out scaling matches screen view scaling
I'm asking here just in case this is already a submitted bug. I'm on Fedora 12, OOo 3.1.1. Using a template for A5 sized paper, I have a Brother MFC-5840 with a defined printer setup for Tray 1 with A5 sized paper. If I set the screen view size to zoom to page width, considering the size of the OOo window, the zoom is usually 122%. When I select file -> Print, select the "Brother-Halfsheet" printer I have setup, and click print, the print out is zoomed to the SAME level! If I set Zoom to 100% it prints just fine. Also, for some time now, if I have notes in the document OOo will just crash when I print, but for some reason now that has stopped, probably temporarily. Has anyone else seen these symptoms? It took me quite a while to figure this one out as I've never seen the screen view zoom level affect the printing. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Cheque printing
On Friday 20 November 2009 08:22:29 am Keith Clark wrote: > Is there an openoffice cheque template? Can you print your own cheques > and are they acceptable at banks (Canada)? > > Keith > I'm not sure if this conversation has gone quite the way you intended, or even if you've caught most of it. I haven't checked to see if you are subscribed to the list you sent this to, if so forgive me. However, since you haven't responded, as best I can tell, I thought I would take this another direction. Are there templates that would allow you to "fill in the blanks" on security printed, laser printer ready, paper. i.e. not print the whole check, or cheque as you spell it, but fill in the "pay to the order of:" and amount lines, etc. I found one spreadsheet utility, but it didn't seem to work. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Fw: unsubscribe
On Friday 30 October 2009 08:47:12 pm Sigrid Carrera wrote: > Hi, > > Am Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:32:26 -0400 > > schrieb James Knott : > > Mark Webster wrote: > > > And here we have our typical noob slammer. I've been wondering if it > > > would be more trouble than it's worth to put a very short line at > > > the top of each message on how to unsub > > > > There is already a very short line at the bottom of each message on > > how to unsub. > > is it so, that every email program shows that lines? I thought, that > I've read somewhere, that some email programmes don't show those lines > when they are separated from the other text with two or more dashes. > > So it might be, that these users can't see those lines. > > Sigrid > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > Generally you are referring to a good email program's ability to remove anything below the signature automatically upon replying to a message. Anything below the typical two dashes would be eliminated. However, that's only upon reply, not delivery. In all my years administering email I never ran across an email package that deleted them upon delivery, however, since I've stopped one may exist. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: BUG: OpenOffice.Org Presentation
On Saturday 24 October 2009 09:08:30 am Manolo _ wrote: > Sorry, i forgot the attachments. > The ODP file is the presentation I've been creating. On the other hand, > both the PNG files are screenshots of my OpenOffice.Org Impress editor.As > you can see, I can see blank slides on the left side pane. At most, on the > left side pane I could only see the slides background, just in case.As you > can see, each screenshot is related to one of the two slides. > > > Manolo > > > From: mac_man2...@hotmail.it > > To: users@openoffice.org; n...@ger.gmane.org; gl...@sbcglobal.net > > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:47:56 + > > Subject: RE: [users] Re: BUG: OpenOffice.Org Presentation > > > > > > Hi NoOp. > > > > > Are you using the PPA build of Ubuntu OOo, or the standard version of > > > > OOo? > > > > Using the PPA from: > > > > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main > > deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main > > > > > If you'd like to send me a small version of the > > > > presentation (less than 3Mbytes) directly I'll be happy to take a > > look at it to see if I can > > > > > replicate. I have both of the above > > > > OOo versions on my jaunty machines. > > > > Here you get it in attachment. > > > > Thanks for your time > > > > > > > > Manolo > > > > - > >-- > > > > Please don't send me Word, Excel or PowerPoint attachments. > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > Por favor, no me adjuntes archivos de Word, Excel, PowerPoint. > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html > > > > - > >-- > > > > > To: users@openoffice.org > > > From: gl...@sbcglobal.net > > > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:23:57 -0700 > > > Subject: [users] Re: BUG: OpenOffice.Org Presentation > > > > > > On 10/23/2009 02:49 AM, Manolo _ wrote: > > > > Hi to all. > > > > > > > > I'm unable to see Images and notes during presentation. > > > > > > > > I can only see text inside the page and template backgroung just in > > > > case. > > > > Also neither I cannot see images into the left side pane nor when > > > > exporting to PDF. Any suggestion please? Thanks. > > > > > > > > (Using OpenOffice.org > > > > 3.1.1 build 9420 on Ubuntu Jaunty) > > > > > > Are you using the PPA build of Ubuntu OOo, or the standard version of > > > OOo? > > > > > > If you'd like to send me a small version of the presentation (less than > > > 3Mbytes) directly I'll be happy to take a look at it to see if I can > > > replicate. I have both of the above OOo versions on my jaunty machines. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org > > > > _ > > Nuovo Windows 7: trova il PC più adatto alle tue esigenze. Scopri di più. > > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > > _ > Nuovo Windows 7: trova il PC più adatto alle tue esigenze. Scopri di più. > http://windows.microsoft.com/shop > You are editing the "notes" view and not the presentation. Click on the "normal" tab and edit each screen there to taste.Start a new presentation to get this looking right. However, you'll need to print the notes so you can read them while you are giving the presentation. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] MY COMPUTER IS OVER LOADED!!!!!!!
On Thursday 02 April 2009 11:46:10 am lelia1...@bellsouth.net wrote: > I desperately need to delete my open office. My computer is very > overloaded. The program will not let me delete it.What do I do? > > Thanks for any help. > > Jane Fleming Un-install MS OFFICE instead, you'll get back more space, and you'll be left with a better office suite. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Autorecovery issue in OOo 3: recovers last saved document state
On Monday 27 October 2008 07:34:35 pm NoOp wrote: > On 10/27/2008 02:53 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 22:27, Phil wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I would like to point the community to a regression bug that is quite > >> considerable IMHO and that has already been discussed on the list: > >> Autorecovery in the current OOo 3.0 release always recovers the last > >> saved version of a document (e.g. in case of a crash of OOo). > >> Seems to be cross-platform and did not occur in OOo 2.4.1. > >> > >> Unfortunately, the corresponding Issue 92968 > >> <http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=92968> has not even > >> been assigned a target to, although it already has 16 votes! > >> So my fear is that it wouldn't be solved in OOo 3.0.1 - which I > >> definitely think should be aimed at. > >> > >> I think this is a major drawback for many users and would probably be a > >> stopper for the rollout of OOo 3 in a corporate environment. > >> > >> I'm looking forward to hear your comments, and of course I encourage > >> everyone who sees this as a major problem to vote for the issue! > > > > What about a hint to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? > > > > Manfred > > Yes please. I'd asked Hagar to do this but he was reluctant as he didn't > originate the bug. But, if nobody does in the next day or so I'll go > ahead and nominate it as a show stopper. Please do! I can't believe they would not care about this. I've suffered from power outages myself (no ups at the time) and the autosave recovery feature was what saved my behind. I've sense tried to develop the discipline to save the doc every now and then, but in the event I forget to, I'd be in trouble. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Installing OO.o on PCLinuxOS
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 08:28:26 pm Fred A. Miller wrote: > Russell Butler wrote: > > Bob Estes wrote: > >> I've just installed and updated PCLinuxOS 2007 in a dual boot > >> configuration with Windows XP PRO, SP3. This is my first experience > >> with any form of Linux. OOo came with the PCLinux installation, and > >> the Synaptic package manager updated it to v. 2.3.1. I downloaded the > >> 2.4.1 Linux version from the OOo website, but I can't figure how to > >> install it. (Double clicking the installation file like in Windows > >> don't work.) Since I am new to Linux, please be specific with your > >> instructions. > > > > HI Bob > > > > Some info on installing on debian based distros at > > http://openoffice.debian.net/install.html > > > > or more general at http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26173 > > > > I presume PCLinuxOS 2007 is debian based, using synaptic? > > Yes it is. > > Fred No, it is not. Its Based on Mandriva Linux, so you'd need RPMs that are mandrake . . .uh, mandriva, oriented. It uses Apt, and Synaptic but it does so on an RPM based system. OH, crap, there is another one that does that as well, but I can't recall its name now. PCLinuxOS has been slipping bad of late, and I think the fact that there is no "2008" edition may speak wonders. You may want to check out another Distro, like OpenSUSE, Kubuntu (or Ubuntu if you find you like Gnome), or Mandriva itself. There are more, as the guys around here will fill you in. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Downloaded open office 2.4 but having problems
On Monday 31 March 2008 08:10:55 pm Irfan wrote: > Whenever i try to run the downloaded file > (OOo_2.4.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe) > it shows an error : NSIS Error > but it is giving an option to use /NCRC command line switch but not > recommended > > > Please tell me what to do? Try downloading the version without the JRE, if you already have java this JRE inclusion is just a waste of Bandwidth anyway. Also, try searching the OOo website for the NSIS Error and see what you come up with, it could be the build got messed up some how. I haven't downloaded nor tried to install that version yet, so I'm just guessing here. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] YOUR PROGRAM IS LOUSY AND USELESS
On Monday 31 March 2008 11:08:35 am Michael Taylor wrote: > 1. DOWNLOAD TIME TAKES 10 MINUTES > 2. FAILURE AFTER LONG DOWNLOAD TO START > 3. LOSE A FUTURE CUROMER DUE TO EXTREMELY DISIPOINTING LACK OF > PERFORMANCE AND EXECUTION BY YOUR INEPT PRODUCT!! 4. NIM RECOMMENDING TO > ALL MY FRIENDS TO STAY AWAY FROM YOUR FLAWED PRODUCT If it only took 10 Minutes to download, and then failed to start, I'd assume your download failed for some reason. I've had this happen on numerous occassions, and for many reasons. Really, its no reason to get so upset and panic. However, considering OpenOffice.org is free, its not like anyone is losing revenue. I would highly recommend some things here: 1. Try the download again. 2. Get an email client with a spell checker, or post to the list that is in your native language. It doesn't support your argument that OOo (OpenOffice.org) was inept when the email post is so horribly written as to nearly be incomprensible on that last point. AIX has a server service call "NIM" Network Install Manager, in which you can backup AIX servers to (mksysb), or upgrade or install machines from. But, I have never heard of this service providing recommendations about software that is completely unrelated to it. I hope you can relax and try the download and software again, I think you'd find it very usable, stable, and feature rich. Besides its hard to beat free. I've found it very hard to get too down on the software even when it doesn't perfom exactly like I want for that very reason. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] WordPerfect docs
On Monday 24 December 2007 08:41:57 am Pat Brown wrote: > Has anyone had any experience converting WordPerfect 12 documents? I > stumbled across several stories I had written when I had WP and OpenOffice > renders them unreadable. If anyone knows how I could open them I'd > appreciate it. > > And wishing everyone a great holiday! Have you tried IBM's Lotus Symphony? You could load it up and try it, but I think it has some extra proprietary doc filters that would work. I use it to convert older WordPro Docs. I don't know that it would convert them, but its free, so you could try it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] horrible
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 08:53:47 am Johan Mathew wrote: > I think OpenOffice is a horrible software If any 1 want to destroy his > computer then he can use it.In this software somany features u will get but > no security u will get always your computer will be hanged. > > - > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. Listen guy, you just don't get it. If you can't take the time to realize you are not dealing with paid support, and if you can't understand you're using free (as in beer and speech) software, and if you can't understand that you HAVE to send in information about the software you are using, version, OS, etc. and the hardware specs you are running on, you are going to be in trouble no matter what Office Suite you decide to use! OpenOffice.org is very good software, period. Someone, trying to deride OpenOffice.org said, "its not MS Office, that's for sure" not realizing that was the best compliment ever! IF you want help from this group you have to be helpful. Otherwise go use MS Office, I'm sure M$ would love to take your money, and your freedom and give you lots of help, (help freezing up your PC that is). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 10:45:04 pm NoOp wrote: > On 09/18/2007 08:42 PM, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 09:28:58 pm Robert Smits wrote: > >> On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:37, James Knott wrote: > >> > Those who have Lotus Smart Suite files may be interested in this. As > >> > I understand it, it's Smart Suite updated to work with ODF. > >> > > >> > http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa > >> > >> I wouldn't get too excited. They claim to support SLED and Red Hat, but > >> their download isn't even available in RPM format. > >> > >> Looks like typical IBM cluelessness. > > > > Actually, they are not The losers who decided to go RPM with OOo are. > > > > Sorry, that's my opinion now, was when the switch was made and will be > > till its changed back. > > > > The good news about Symphony is that its installed via a bin file > > executable which actually runs a distro neutral installer. It worked > > well on my Kubuntu Laptop!! > > > > Unlike OOo which I can't download from the OOo web site because somebody > > thought RPM is the ONLY package management system, and all the others > > could just use alien anyway. > > > > Maybe you can tell I liked the installer setup better than favoring a > > package manager system? > > Ummm... you should look at the OOo download page again. Look carefully > under the linux download selection. You'll find that it now includes a > .deb package. Well, I'll be, I guess since there wasn't much use in going there for so long, I just stopped asking or looking. As much as that improves things, its still a package. Why not have just one install executable? Then it would install and work the same way on Debian, SUSE, RedHat, Mandrake, Windoze, etc. Not only that, but I could decide to put it under /opt or maybe /usr/local/ or maybe /nfs/otherbox/opt depending on my mood and or policies. I could also decide to drop certain features or extras, like I can in the Windoze install. Why am I forced to doing it the way the package manager person decided it should happen? Anyway, I don't think its going to change, despite all my rantings to the contrary, and the fact that it makes sense, gives the user choice, etc. etc.. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 09:04:04 pm NoOp wrote: > On 09/18/2007 06:46 PM, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 05:37:44 pm James Knott wrote: > >> Those who have Lotus Smart Suite files may be interested in this. As I > >> understand it, it's Smart Suite updated to work with ODF. > >> > >> http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa > > > > However, be prepared to give it some room LOTS of room. > > > > The install requires around 480 MB and the download itself is 223 MB! > > (for Linux that is). > > I think the Windoze install is 133 MB. > > > > Why the space difference? I have no idea. However, I have installed it > > on a slower single proc WinXP machine with 512 MB RAM and it is SLOW to > > say the least. > > <http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/product_faqs_normandy.js >pa#4> What are the client system requirements? > > * Lotus Symphony supports both Microsoft Windows® and Linux® platforms. > > Note: Be sure your system meets these client system requirements: > > * Supported Windows platforms: Windows XP, Windows Vista > * Supported Linux platforms: SLED 10, RHEL 5, Redhat5 > * 900MB disk space minimum > * 1GB RAM memory minimum <=== note > * US English locale > > Maybe they are trying to keep up with Vista :-) > Yea, I saw the min reqs. I decided to try it any way, you know someone was going to and then complain and gripe and moan. So, I just thought I'd let them know before they tried, that it was indeed very, very SLOW. Oh, and it works fine on my Kubuntu desktop despite the above. Well, as well as it works in Windoze anyway. It is very beta software. I found it did try to use a lot of that 1 GB. In my Vista setup it took about 100 MB with a few Docs loaded. I'm sure if I had gotten fancy with presentations, and spreadsheets it would have gone higher. Apparently when its loading, or loading a function it goes higher. For those looking to open Lotus Word Pro Docs, it does well for anything that was saved with the latest version of LWP. It chokes on anything I have that was saved before Y2K. Which is OK because I still have LWP installed and I will open and save those docs. I tested this (opening Word Pro docs) on Kubuntu (worked less of the time) and Windows Vista (worked more but not all the time). The problem is that when you open a LWP doc with IBMSym the formatting isn't quite right. No worries, if you just do a save, or save as and save it as an ODF file, you can then open it with OOo and it looks good. It appears this beta has problems with tabs. Also the Text properties box on my Linux setup didn't do right. It was wider than the max space allowed and so I had to scroll back and forth to see all the text and paragraph properties. This could be a Gnome Font in KDE thing. It is Gnome Centric it appears. > > I'm downloading the Linux version now to try on my DualCore Laptop w/2GB > > of RAM. We'll see how it goes. > > > > The interesting thing about this package is that it harps back to the > > StarOffice 5.2 days. If any of you have been around long enough to > > remember the single window in which all your docs, etc. opened, you'll > > quickly recognize Symphony. > > I still have the 5.1 CD :-) I tossed my 5.2 CD once OOo came out ( build 648 pre 1.0 release was when I started with it, or at least I think that was the build number). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 09:28:58 pm Robert Smits wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:37, James Knott wrote: > > Those who have Lotus Smart Suite files may be interested in this. As I > > understand it, it's Smart Suite updated to work with ODF. > > > > http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa > > I wouldn't get too excited. They claim to support SLED and Red Hat, but > their download isn't even available in RPM format. > > Looks like typical IBM cluelessness. Actually, they are not The losers who decided to go RPM with OOo are. Sorry, that's my opinion now, was when the switch was made and will be till its changed back. The good news about Symphony is that its installed via a bin file executable which actually runs a distro neutral installer. It worked well on my Kubuntu Laptop!! Unlike OOo which I can't download from the OOo web site because somebody thought RPM is the ONLY package management system, and all the others could just use alien anyway. Maybe you can tell I liked the installer setup better than favoring a package manager system? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] IBM Lotus Symphony
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 05:37:44 pm James Knott wrote: > Those who have Lotus Smart Suite files may be interested in this. As I > understand it, it's Smart Suite updated to work with ODF. > > http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa However, be prepared to give it some room LOTS of room. The install requires around 480 MB and the download itself is 223 MB! (for Linux that is). I think the Windoze install is 133 MB. Why the space difference? I have no idea. However, I have installed it on a slower single proc WinXP machine with 512 MB RAM and it is SLOW to say the least. I'm downloading the Linux version now to try on my DualCore Laptop w/2GB of RAM. We'll see how it goes. The interesting thing about this package is that it harps back to the StarOffice 5.2 days. If any of you have been around long enough to remember the single window in which all your docs, etc. opened, you'll quickly recognize Symphony. In the Windows version I did not see a way to open a new Window, so it appears you are stuck to the single instance. (Which took up over 80 MB of RAM with no docs loaded in Windoze BTW, not to mention the 12 MB of RAM the "soffice" executable consumed). It appeared to open MSO files with very little problems, even though it gave me a warning about incompatibility. It also opened OOo files, but I haven't had an opportunity to test it with Lotus WordPro files yet. Having just finished the Linux setup 1. you have to download the 223 MB .bin file. 2. you have to add executible permissions to the file. 3. run the .bin file to extract the setup files. 4. change to the "IBM_Lotus_Symphony_Linux" directory and run ./setup.bin 5. Follow the prompts after the java install routine loads. After the install finishes you'll have a chance to start a doc, spreadsheet, or presentation. If you did the install as root (recommended) you'll just want to close it down. You'll find the icons in your "office" submenu in the Kmenu. Now, off to test out the beast. . . . -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: SUN Mgr-Have home user that cannot uninstall OpenOffice
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 07:53:25 pm NoOp wrote: > On 09/18/2007 05:31 PM, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Monday 17 September 2007 12:00:06 pm Colin Healy wrote: > >> HELP! > >> I found the support forums. Customer is very upset and threatening to go > >> to Sun Corporate because she cannot uninstall OpenOffice. > >> > >> Any suggestions? > >> > >> Colin Healy > > > > I hate to say it this way, but, let her go. > > > > Besides, I'm of the opinion at this point to believe this was a bogus > > email anyway. Not sure what the purpose was, but it wasn't to find help. > > > > 1. The person is "supposedly" at Sun. Why would they need help from > > OpenOffice.org list when they have StarOffice? > > 2. The person supposedly cried for help without one single shred of > > information that would lead to any help being useful. > > 3. Being worried about a single user who wants to uninstall > > OpenOffice.org going to "Corporate" is not something I see any help desk > > person at Sun doing. > > As I mentioned in my previous post, Colin did reply directly & it was a > valid complaint. He eventually talked her through it (it was a Windose > issue). > > Unfortunately help desk folks, be it Sun or anyone else really can't > just blow off a customer... at least if they want to keep their job. > > Now on the other hand, we can :-) as we are as free as beer (where did > that saying come from anyway?), unless of course we are the one whos > "shout" it is at the moment :-) > Interesting. I'm still having a real problem with an employee at the help desk at Sun not having an escalation procedure, or not knowing how the list here works. Surely they have contacts within Sun if they run into something they just can't handle. Every help desk I've ever worked with had contacts, and escalation procedures (Novell's, IBM's, Microsoft's, Our's, etc.). However, now that I think about it, I've never had a reason to call Sun. Not only that, but I didn't even realize Sun had paid support for OpenOffice.org! I guess the good thing is that the problem got solved any way. Good work Gary. Just a funny Quote from Sun's Support site considering one of your other posts: "Sun ranks #1 compared to Dell, HP, IBM, and Microsoft for Knowledge of Technical Support Personnel, Quality of Service and Support, Service Plan Features and Deliverables, and Clarity of Service Plan Offerings. TNS Prognostics, April 2006" Kinda Ironic huh? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] SUN Mgr-Have home user that cannot uninstall OpenOffice
On Monday 17 September 2007 12:00:06 pm Colin Healy wrote: > HELP! > I found the support forums. Customer is very upset and threatening to go > to Sun Corporate because she cannot uninstall OpenOffice. > > Any suggestions? > > Colin Healy I hate to say it this way, but, let her go. Besides, I'm of the opinion at this point to believe this was a bogus email anyway. Not sure what the purpose was, but it wasn't to find help. 1. The person is "supposedly" at Sun. Why would they need help from OpenOffice.org list when they have StarOffice? 2. The person supposedly cried for help without one single shred of information that would lead to any help being useful. 3. Being worried about a single user who wants to uninstall OpenOffice.org going to "Corporate" is not something I see any help desk person at Sun doing. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS
On Saturday 01 September 2007 10:04:41 pm Christian Einfeldt wrote: > On 9/1/07, Howard Coles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First, have you tried saving this current spreadsheet as a text based, > > csv file? And then, importing the csv into OOo? > > Would this break the formulas, etc? I have not tried this, because there > are multiple tabs, and it is my understandinng that multiple tabs do not > import / export well as CSV. > > Second, I don't think it would be hard to get the thing into a > > > database. The > > hardest part is setting up the DB. > > Right, that is several hours of work, and then the problem remains that > this solution needs to be adopted by all of the educators (teachers and > staff) and that is not likely to happen any time soon. These educators are > already somewhat suspicious of FOSS, simply because they are not familiar > with it, and they think that it will require them to make major changes in > their lives. > > > Third, in Excel, break the spreadsheet out into multiple spreadsheets. > > I'm assuming here that there are no advanced formulas and/or macros? > > That would be an obvious solution except, again, for institutional > lethargy. They have a standardized template that they use, and the > teachers are all expected to report in that format. And there are > references back and forth among the several tabs, so breaking it out would, > again, be a lot of work with not much time left. > > And, actually, I am assuming that there are advanced formulas and macros, > because OOo does not accurately produce the sheet. There are a few broken > cells. Well, the exporting to CSV for each tab could get the data, accurately, into an OOo spreadsheet. As a first step to switching over. but, it doesn't sound like that's a feasible route now. What you'll have to do, however, is go through the sheet in the template form, and determine where the formulas are. One of the largest problems in converting to OOo, or to any other spreadsheet, from any other spreadsheet app is the formulas. They are rarely in the same format. So, you'll have to document the formulas and reproduce them in a new OOo Spreadsheet. Once you have the New OOo spreadsheet created (and tested), you can then take the data from the Excel spreadsheet and paste it into the new OOo spreadsheet. The question is, are there any macros? That will make it even more difficult. And, fire the guy who made the decision to use a spreadsheet for this kind of data. :-P (just kidding). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] help moving a public middle school in San Francisco to FOSS
On Saturday 01 September 2007 09:07:43 pm Christian Einfeldt wrote: > Thanks everyone for your replies. Sorry for the lag in responding.. > > On 9/1/07, Joe Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It sounds to me as if it is past time that a database replaced that > > Excel spreadsheet.!! :-) > > Okay, but that is a systemic change that I am not going to be able to > implement in the next 72 hours, which is when the teacher needs the > solution. Or is it possible to make that change? The problem is that the > school has standardized on a spreadsheet. Getting the whole school to move > to a database would take some work. I am definitely open to suggestions. > Again, thanks for the suggestions! First, have you tried saving this current spreadsheet as a text based, csv file? And then, importing the csv into OOo? Second, I don't think it would be hard to get the thing into a database. The hardest part is setting up the DB. You'll need some help with that other than me, as I'm no db expert. however, I think even I could set something up in a rather crude, get me started kinda way. Third, in Excel, break the spreadsheet out into multiple spreadsheets. I'm assuming here that there are no advanced formulas and/or macros? That may be the problem rather than the size of it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Microsoft insecurity
On Saturday 11 August 2007 09:04:14 pm Johnny Rosenberg wrote: > I just checked my firewall (I don't really remember when I restarted my > laptop last time, but it was certainly not today) and it still shows a > total of attacks = 0. In fact I have never seen it show anything else than > 0. I haven't touched anything of the firewall, no settings done, everything > is let through, as I understand it. The OS/dist is Linux/Ubuntu 7.04. > > When I had Windows (98, 2000 and XP), there were attacks several times each > minute. Can the difference really be that big if the only thing that > matters is how popular an operating system is? Than I can see two > explanations: 1. I am the only one in the world using Linux > 2. My Firewall lies to me. > 3. Ok, I said two explanations, so I won't bother you with a third one. Yes the difference is that big. According to Wikipedia (the last time I checked) Linux only had about 14 - 20 known virus, however, (again, last time I heard) Windows has about 60K or more. They don't have to attack you, there are a few sites on the net that will do it for you. I can't remember any off the top of my head, but search for security testing, or firewall security test, and you should come up with a few. One of the reasons your Windows side gets attacked so much is that it advertises so many open ports, and broadcasts so many things that a Linux box doesn't. Now, you *can* add enough services to a Linux box to make it so, but I wouldn't if I could keep from it. Linux can be made just as insecure as Windows in the hands of the right (ab)user. :-D -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] BAD front door to converters
On Monday 30 July 2007 12:17:50 pm Ralph Smith wrote: > The page http://why.openoffice.org/ is TERRIBLE in Firefox/Windows. > As are others around there. > > NOT a professional or inviting front door. > NOT what you want. > > > Ralph In LInux (not sure about Windows) the only problem I can see is there is a line through the bubble type icons in the middle of the page when I mouse over them (in Firefox only). and the "Get OpenOffice.org2 now" link is overlapping and is right in the middle of the IT Business Icon, but I think that's my browser because of font sizing. That's it. Looks real good in Konqueror, and Opera in Linux. I'll try Windoze in a few. In IE 5.5 through Citrix it doesn't look so good, DOH. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 05:34:33 pm D Every wrote: > I've just found out about 'Open Office' and it sounds good but one > question: > > > > Like most, I have the ubiquitous MS Office suite on my pc. What then do I > do with that when I install Open Office, delete it altogether? That sounds > very precipitous to say the least but it WOULD be liberating! Can I delete > all of MS Office 2000 from my computer? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Don Every > > Hobart, > > Tasmania, > > Australia > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd say you CAN, but I wouldn't. I would, however, not waste any more money on M$'s software in the future. I would also leave the Office software in place until you have converted and are happy that all your docs are like you like them. If you have access to a PDF exporter, you could export them all as PDFs, then you COULD delete M$ Office. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Windows Installer halted by DEP on install of 2.2.1
On Monday 02 July 2007 11:14:41 am Stephan G wrote: > I have downloaded and am trying to install version 2.2.1 on my Vista > machine. > > Windows DEP (Data Execution Prevention) halts the install and closes the > installer. > > Any thoughts? > > -s > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Turn off DEP? It should prompt you with a "Hey, are you sure?" kind of message, to which you can reply yes, or proceed. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Fwd: OO won't open
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 07:58:33 pm NoOp wrote: > On 05/29/2007 05:41 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: > > On Tuesday May 29 2007 7:12 pm, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > >> On Monday 28 May 2007 10:21:39 pm Ian Vincent wrote: > >> > I can get soffice to run from command line. It just will not > >> > open any documents. I tried running oowriter from command line > >> > and got a segmentation fault error: > >> > >> Did you install this using the Ubuntu Feisty packages or did you > >> use Alien to convert the RPMs? > >> > >> Please reply _only_ to users@openoffice.org and for the flow's > >> sake, reply below here. > > > > Copy to Ian. > > Why? Ian originally wrote: > > > I'm running FC6 and I can't get OO to open. > > > Howard's response has nothing to do with FC6 (Fedora Core 6). > > Further, Ian appears to be subscribed to this list (he has already > responded to a suggestion in the thread). Oops. Good grief, the stupidity. I was thinking of another issue with Ubuntu's OO.o that someone else had after converting using Alien. Sorry. I think I'll quit while I'm not so far behind. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Fwd: OO won't open
On Monday 28 May 2007 10:21:39 pm Ian Vincent wrote: > I can get soffice to run from command line. It just will not open any > documents. I tried running oowriter from command line and got a > segmentation fault error: > Did you install this using the Ubuntu Feisty packages or did you use Alien to convert the RPMs? Please reply _only_ to users@openoffice.org and for the flow's sake, reply below here. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] printers
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 01:04:03 am Peter Frost wrote: > I am on Windows Vista Home Premium. Is this sufficient? > > Peter > - Original Message - Well, if you were asking for my opinion I'd say that was sufficient to be having problems, windows is known for that, :-D However, having the same version on another partition I'll rather ask If you have tried to print from any other application with sucess? (Notepad, wordpad or whatever its called these days)? Oh, and please reply to users@openoffice.org to keep this exchange on the list. Someone with more sense than me, may have a better solution. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] printers
On Monday 28 May 2007 09:35:07 am Peter Frost wrote: > I have a printer as default yet open office does not seem to connect to it. > Any ideas? What am I doing wrong? > > Peter Frost First, Which OS are you running and which version? (If Linux which Distribution ie, SUSE, Ubuntu [or some form thereof], Mandrake, etc.) The next steps in figuring this out will be determined by they answer to the above. Also as another person mentioned, you may also want to verify that other apps can print as well. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: OO won't open
On Monday 28 May 2007 09:27:06 pm Russell Butler wrote: > Ian Vincent wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm running FC6 and I can't get OO to open. It was working fine, but > > stopped working after I changed out my video card. X runs fine so I > > doubt the card has anything to do with it. I checked to see if any other > > OO processes were running but none are. Any suggestions? > > > > Ian > > Hi Ian > > I am copying a reply to an ubuntu user recently which may help: > > A useful tip I found on linux is to open a shell (terminal) as a normal > user, then you may find that just entering "soffice" (no quotes) will > try to start the OpenOffice.org program. If that fails, navigate to the > installation directory (I think on ubuntu it is in > /usr/local/openoffice../program/ then put in " ./soffice" - note the "." > before it. If there is a problem it will very likely give an error > message and this will help your troubleshooting. In Ubuntu, the default install directory is /usr/lib/openoffice/program. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Re: spell checker
On Friday 18 May 2007 01:47:00 pm you wrote: > sir please forgive me for emailing you directly but i'm just about ready to > give up with open office writer. please find below a posting from a month > or two ago and your responce. i've been trying to solve this prob. for some > time as well but with no positive results. i use usa english and if were to > intentionally misspell a word ( ie. hme instead of home) i dont get the red > squigglyline below the misspelled word. Does OO has a builtin dictionary? > if not, this may be my problem. i use ms vista home. incidentally,windows > mail, the new email program for windows vista, has a spell checker. vista > does not come with outlook express etc.I would appreciate any help you can > give. BTW I did the tools>options>languages etc. advice and no luck. I even > deletedand reinstalled OO and still no luck. any other advice can you give > me will be greatly appreciated. God bless... Ok, generally speaking it is better to keep your responses & questions on the list, because the audience is larger. That means the number of folks who know more than me is therefore increased. :-D It sounds like "auto spell check" is not enabled. OOo does have or use a built in dictionary, I believe. However, I can be corrected there. Ok. Try this first: misspell a few words and click on, "Tools" -> (this symbol means next or then) "Spellcheck" (it will have an "F7" to the far right. You should get messages that you have misspelled words. If so, we're good on the spelling side. If that worked, Click on "Tools" -> "Options" In the "Options" dialog box, click on the "+" sign beside "Language Settings" then click on "Writing Aids". There will be three sections, and the bottom section is titled "Options" as well. At the top there should be an option labeled like "Check spelling as you type". Make sure there is a check mark in the box to the left of this option. If not click on the empty box once, and one should appear. Then click the "OK" button at the bottom of the Dialog box. This should turn on your auto spell checking. There is also a button on the tool bar that looks like "ABC" with a squigly line under it. If you click that button it turns on Auto spell checking for you. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]100% free software
On Friday 13 July 2007 02:48:16 pm Ale wrote: > Which are 100% free gratis software i can use at work in office? > > I ask for windows software due to i have no idea about what Linux is! > > Abou Linux which gratis distribution should i use first? > > > Best regards, Ale, Italy Ciao, Ale. (that's the only nearly italian word I know and I probably spelled it wrong). :-D As others have said OpenOffice is a free download and is usable in any setting. Linux is also freely downloadable depending on the distribution. I use Kubuntu (http://www.kubuntu.org) which is VERY easy to use. Linux Mint (http://linuxmint.com) which is a spin of Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com) as well, and can have KDE added to it. This one is focused on multimedia and having all the codecs you need out of the box. I have also used Debian, which is more advanced and the source of Ubuntu and all its derivitives (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Linux Mint, etc.) http://www.debian.com Ubuntu uses the Gnome Windowing interface, Kubuntu uses the KDE windowing interface, Xubuntu uses XFCE (sp?), and Linux Mint uses Gnome again. The cool thing about Linux is choice. Try one / all of those. There are some good lists around each one where a lot of help can be found. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Thursday 17 May 2007 06:06:13 am James Knott wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am using the 2.0 version of openoffice. However, I've downloaded > > Microsoft Office Word as well, and would prefer Word to be my primary > > word processing program. My problem is that when I create a document in > > Word, it is saved in Open Office, which doesn't have some of the editing > > features of Word. The question is how do I make Word the primary > > without removing OpenOffice? > > > > Thanks, > > > > R. Smith, JR. > > > > You have received an email from The Elder Robert E. Smith, Jr. Senior > > Pastor of the Tabernacle of Hope Church of God in Christ, 2946 Grant > > Road, Columbus, Georgia. We want to remind you that the blessings of the > > Lord maketh rich and add no sorrow with it. God's choicest blessings be > > yours. > > It's curious that a pastor would use stolen software. I imagine that he didn't mean "download" in the internet since of copying it down from a remote server. He probably meant that he installed it from a CD. Many folks who aren't as well versed in the terminology get this confused. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 07:43:20 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am using the 2.0 version of openoffice. However, I've downloaded > Microsoft Office Word as well, and would prefer Word to be my primary word > processing program. My problem is that when I create a document in Word, > it is saved in Open Office, which doesn't have some of the editing features > of Word. The question is how do I make Word the primary without removing > OpenOffice? > > Thanks, > I didn't know there was a legal way to download Microsoft Word! How did you pull that off? Not only that, but MS Word doesn't natively, nor by default if the plugin is installed, want to save in ODF. (Open Document Format). I'm thinking you mean that you want OpenOffice Writer to be your primary Word processor? I'm also curious about what OpenOffice Writer "can't" do that apparently Word can. I haven't found anything generally that Writer is short on. I use it for Sermon Prep, and outlining very often, and I use MS Word at work. However, if in fact you want a lower quality Word Processor to be your primary, then in Windows, if you right click on a document (file.doc) and select "open with" you should have an option to choose. I'm not in Windows, so I'm having to go from memory. After you choose MS Word, click on the check box at the bottom that says something to the affect of "use this choice as the default" or "Always use this application". and then click OK. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Version 2.2 on Ubuntu
On Saturday 12 May 2007 01:29:31 pm jonathon wrote: > Jennifer Stuart wrote: > > I'm running OpenOffice version 2.2 on Ubuntu 7.04 and > > I must say I'm NOT impressed with it. > > Based on your description, I suspect that you are using the > Ubuntu crippled version. Download and install the version > available from the OpenOffice.org website. What's crippled about it? I'm using the version that shipped with Ubuntu 7.04, and I haven't found any shortcomings or stability issues yet. If you know of any I'd like to know before I run into them. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Dates change automatically in writer
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 09:43:15 am James F wrote: > I am using version 2.2 of OpenOffice.org. I have learned through the > help system how to turn off the automatic changing of the date on > formatted documents in Writer. Do I really have to do this on EACH > document, or is there a way to correct this issue for all at one time? Its my understanding that OOo will only update the date if its a dynamic field (or whatever OOo calls it) in a template. I've never had OOo change dates of previously created, and saved documents. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] "metrology"
On Tuesday 01 May 2007 04:31:07 pm M Henri Day wrote: > I activated the OOo 2.2 spellchecker for English (UK), and also got that > wavy red line for the term «metrology». But after right-clicking the word > and clicking «add», I was then able to compose the following sentence > without receiving an error message : «Metrology is not quite the same thing > as meteorology» (now that is what I call deathless prose !). In any event > Mr Goodman is advised to do the same, in order to add the term to his own > OOo dictionary > > Henri > > 2007/5/1, Richard Detwiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > M Henri Day wrote: > > > Does the OOo spell checker really change the orthography of incoming > > > documents ? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Entering a word like > > > «metrology» > > > in a document in Writer will, as Mr Goodman has seen, give rise to a > > > query > > > if the the dictionary is enabled and the word entered is not listed > > > therein, > > > and some editing programmes do allow automatic orthographical changes > > > in documents being written, i e, «teh» --> «the» (is this the case for > > > Writer > > > in OOo 2.2 ?), but do they go so far as to change them in downloaded > > > documents without asking first ?... > > > > > > By the way, I agree with Mr Goodman : by all means do include > > > «metrology» in > > > the English-language dictionary for OOo ?... > > > > > > Henri > > > > > > 2007/4/30, goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> Please add the word "metrology" (the science that deals with > > >> measurement) > > >> to your spell checker. I recently downloaded a list of Nobel Prize > > >> laureates that someone had compiled and found Albert Michelson listed > > >> for > > >> "precision meteorology." I chuckled at this and mentioned the error > > >> at a > > >> celebration of the 100th anniversary of Michelson's Nobel Prize. I > > >> thought > > >> this was simply a case of careless editing by the list compiler, but > > >> one of > > >> my colleagues suggested that "metrology" might have been changed by a > > >> spell-checker. I discounted this theory at first but I entered > > >> "metrology," > > >> in OpenOffice 2.0 and sure enough it got the red underline! The " > > >> montrose.net" spell checker has it right, by the way. > > >> > > >> "Michelson didn't invent doppler radar 100 years ago!" > > >> > > >> Charles Goodman > > >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> phone: (510) 548- 8860 > > > > For what it's worth, I just checked this with OOo 2.2, US English > > dictionary. It does indeed show "metrology" as not in the dictionary. > > However, it does not suggest meteorology as a replacement. And it is > > definitely not in the replacement table (where "teh" is automatically > > replaced with "the" for example). > > > > So we can't blame someone coming up with meteorology for Albert > > Michelson's field of specialization on OOo's spell check at least! My question to this then would be about the limit of words in the custom dictionary. At one time someone on the list ran into that limit with Legal Terms, and Medical Terms. Is there still a limit with 2.2 on the number of words in a custom dictionary, and if so, how would they go about adding medical and/or legal terms to the standard dictionary? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOo 2.2 on Ubuntu Feisty very broken
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 06:17:13 pm John Jason Jordan wrote: > In an attempt to fix various problems in OOo I searched in Synaptic on > "openoffice" did a complete removal of everything installed. I also did > a complete removal of everything Synaptic showed as residual. Then I > deleted the .opernoffice.org2 folder in my home folder. My plan was to > eliminate any vestiges of OOo so that a new, fresh install would start > out without hangups. Then I installed OOo 2.2 (using the metapackage in > Synaptic), plus the hyphenation and help files. > > When I launched it two things occurred: > > 1) It opened in the same window size that I had used before. The Styles > toolbar was floating off to the right, as I had used it before. > 2) All the text in the menus appeared in some kind of symbol font > > So the questions are: > > 1) If I want all vestiges of it to be gone, what do I have to delete > besides the ~/.openoffice.org2 folder? > 2) Where did that symbol font come from and what possessed OOo to think > I would be able to read it? Look for OOo residual information in your .kde directory. The reason for the font problem is simple, you did not reinstall the OpenOffice.org-kde package, and there are some files that may get placed in the .kde directory where it tracks window placement. Completely doing away with OOo from the Ubuntu repositories and using alien is not a good idea. If you use Ubuntu instead of KDE on Kubuntu install the gnome and gtk .deb packages and you should be fine. Once these integration packages are installed they "integrate" with the desktop system so that some of your settings for window placement and style is store with Gnome or KDE. Either way the font situation should be fine once those packages are re-installed. You may also want to go to the Ubuntu or Kubuntu user lists and see what folks there are saying. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Conversions
On Friday 06 April 2007 07:13:44 pm NoOp wrote: > On 04/06/2007 12:41 PM, Gordon wrote: > > James Knott wrote: > >> Gordon wrote: > >>> Tom Chilton wrote: > >>>> No, OpenOffice will not open works files. Only works will. > >>> > >>> So why (in 2.1) when I go to File-Open in Writer, is there an option in > >>> the Filter Drop-down box for Microsoft WORKS files then? > >> > >> I see Word, Pocket Word, Wordperfect etc., but no Works. > > > > Inbetween MS Word XML and pocket Word > > Interesting. > > Two questions: 1) have you tried it to see if it works, 2) is your > version from the repos? > Those are good questions, because if you will recall, sometime back I asked about WordPro files. I had a version of OOo that had "WordPro" as an option for opening, but it didn't work. I'm imagining that the same thing is happening here. I'm running Linux Mint 2.2 Bianca with OOo 2.1 installed. \ -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] A nit-pic ??
On Thursday 05 April 2007 02:20:05 pm William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I have created "Speech" Template for myself and saved it. It works > fine, but when I first start OOWriter I get the default template. That > is expected. When go to File ==> New ==>Templates ==> Speech rather > than replacing the default template a whole new OOWriter frame is opened > while the default remains open as well. Currently, I just close the > unwanted 'default' and proceed to write my speech. > > But shouldn't a new template replace the 'default' template rather than > open a new window?? > > I am using OOo 2.0.4 with FC6. I will be going to OOo Fedora 7 at the > end of May. No, it always opens a new window, because it doesn't know whether you want 1 or 2 documents open. Otherwise it would have to read everyone's mind, or prompt them every time to make sure they're doing what they want to do. I like it just the way it is. I can leave the default open and just go about my business until it gets in the way. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OOoW: Intermittant problems with save/save as.
On Thursday 05 April 2007 01:55:05 pm LDR wrote: > I am having intermittent problem with saving documents in Writer. > > I'm wondering if this has anything to do with?: > > * My penchant for embedding '+'s, and '%'s '.'s in file names > * My use of a separate directory for backup copies of documents > * Occasionally changing the file name in mid-edit session (save as) > in order to protect myself from expected impending brain farts > > When this happens, my only recourse is to copy all of the contents of > the document, shut down, OOoW, open a copy afresh, and write it to the > old name. > > As they say on the Good Ship Lollipop, WTFO (which technology > feloniously obfuscates? ;-))? First, don't hijack another thread, start a new one. In other words don't reply to another message and just change the subject, it "hijacks" the thread and isn't polite. Second, do not use those characters in file names, period. Even if the app and OS allows you to do so, other apps, like backup and recovery, may not like them, so don't. And, if I were going to point to any of them its the file name issue. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Spell checker dosen't work in Windows Vista
On Saturday 31 March 2007 07:07:34 pm Dean wrote: > HI > > I have downloaded Open office 2.1 and 2.2 and have found that spell checker > doesn't work under the windows Vista environment. I am using Win Vista home > perm and have found that misspell words do not get underlined in red and > you check the document with spell checker and it doesn't correct any > spelling. Tells you that no misspell words have been found. You can clearly > see that in a doc that there are spelling errors. > > Example: Keeping - doesn't get underline in red and selecting spellchecker > does correct it either. > > this needs to be fixed for win vista users like myself. > > is there a work around to correct this problem? I'm not sure about you but "keeping" is spelled correctly. Anyway, by way of just encouragement. I have 2.1 installed on the vista side of this laptop and spelling has worked. So, it does work, we'll just have to see if we can't find the configuration malfunction for you. The first place to start is in the language settings. I would suggest going through (in the Menu bar) "Tools" -> "Options" and looking through the settings. Especially the "Language Settings" section. There may be some error in there, and this is a good place to start. Look through there and send the list back the results of what you found / changed, and I'm sure someone here will have better info. By the way, no one here is paid for support, the address you sent this message to is a List Server, and there are hundreds of folks just like me, volunteering their time. I say this so you will not get the wrong idea, get impatient waiting for a response, or hold the OpenOffice.org project as a whole accountable for the messages you may get back in response. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] MS Vista
On Sunday 25 February 2007 01:41:09 am James Hardy wrote: > I bought a new laptop with only Vista available. Is OpenOffice available > that run on Vista? > > James Hardy > [EMAIL PROTECTED] yes. Just download 2.1 for windoze and the install is exactly the same as it was for XP. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Accented Characters - new thread ??
On Saturday 24 February 2007 11:18:08 am William Case wrote: > On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 11:46 +0100, M Henri Day wrote: > > 2007/2/23, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Thanks for responding Henri; > > > > > > On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:26 +0100, M Henri Day wrote: > > > > 2007/2/23, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Hi; > > [snip] > > > Bill, it should indeed be easy ! And - thanks to JJJ - it certainly has > > become much easier ! Here are the glyphs you were wished to produce from > > your keyboard, produced directly from mine : ✔ ♠ ♣ ♥ ♦. The procedure is > > as follows : Ctrl + Shift + u, then release, type the hexcode, and then > > space-bar, e g, Ctrl + Shift + u, 2660, space-bar = ♠. It works > > splendidly on my Ubuntu machine ; try it and see if it doesn't work on > > your Fedora set-up ! All credit here is due not me, but JJJ, who > > patiently explained the process so that even I could understand > > > > Henri > > That's my point. I have been using "Ctrl + Shift + u, then release, > type the hexcode, and then space-bar, e g, Ctrl + Shift + u, 2660, > space-bar = ♠." > > Let me restate the problem. To produce those glyphs, I have to remember > (or use a cheat sheet) the unicode numbers every time I want to use > them. I don't know how you write, but when I get flowing with some > ideas, I like to just keep going. To type a ✔, I have to stop, think > about which unicode to use and type 8 key strokes. By then, my great > idea could be lost and using 8 key strokes doesn't feel natural, > particularly if my article jumps from sentences about ♠ and then to ♥ > and then back to ♠ again. > > If I could bind or assign "Ctrl + Shift + u, then release, type the > hexcode" (or the affect of that key combination) to my own choice of key > (say, s ) I could then type along, use s to get a ♠ > without hardly breaking stride. Well, its not a solution to your problem, but maybe a work around until some of the sharp folks here can come up with one. While typing with your ideas flowing just type in [check] for the check mark above, or [SUPER_Lcheckmark] . This way you can go back once your done with the ideas, and proof reading the doc, and replace the [whatever] sections with the appropriate characters. then you could do a search and replace for every instance of [SUPER_Lcheckmark] with ✔. Like I said, not a "solution" but, I'd hate for your ideas to go away waiting on all those keystrokes. (I DO know how you feel!) -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] vista users
On Sunday 18 February 2007 5:44:37 pm Tom Chilton wrote: > I recommend you take your computer back and buy a Mac or PC with > Linux installed. > > On a more serious note OpenOffice for Windows will work just fine on > Vista > > Hope this helps > > > On 18 Feb 2007, at 21:52, William Giles wrote: > > > > what would you recommend for windows vista users He could just shrink the Vista partition and install Linux, or just install linux and let the install repartition the drive for the distro he's installing, :-D. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] row not split
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 9:17:30 pm James Lockie wrote: > Why isn't the row that contains 'a's split between pages? > For some reason it leaves a huge blank area on page 1 and puts all of > the row on page 2. > > http://lockie.ca/test/ODTproblem.odt Because all the "a"s are in a single cell. As best I understand it, OOo will not split a cell across pages unless the cell is too large to fit on a single page. This isn't a bug its normal. Of course just using the doc you linked to above, its hard to tell why you would want to do what you're doing. Normally you'd use Calc to do spreadsheets. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Lotus WordPro docs
I see a filter in my OpenOffice.org writer that shows that I can open WordPro Docs (from Lotus Smartsuite). However, when I open a doc it just comes up a blank page. I'm running 2.0.4 (because Kubuntu doesn't have packages for 2.1 and I'm not into reverse engineering any rpms). I did install 2.1 on a Windoze box, but I didn't see any filters for opening WordPro files. The question is, is this, or ever was this, a real ability of OpenOffice.org? If so, does anyone have any hints about making it work? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Saturday 16 December 2006 11:28 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sir or Madam, > > I have a disc and have gone through your process and while I see Oo.0 on > the desktop it is just files. I have done this numerous times and all I > get is the aforemetioned > > How do I gain access to "writer?' Currently, that is the only section I > can use. > > This is driving me crazy and your assistance will be greatly appreciated. I'm assuming you're in windows. However, before we get into that, understand that your message was posted to a mailing list server, that is monitored and supported by volunteers, not paid support. Just like OpenOffice.org itself. Now, you should be able to go to "Start" -> "Programs" -> "OpenOffice.org" -> then click on the icon of the app you wish to start. However, you should also find an Openoffice.org Quickstart Icon in your system tray, (you may have to unhide it), try right clicking and left clicking on that icon to find out what kind of menus it provides. If you are in Linux, the location of the icons will depend on your distribution. Mine (Kubuntu) are located in "Kmenu" -> "Office" -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Deleting pasted item
On Saturday 16 December 2006 6:39 pm, shookhere wrote: > I am using office.org.2.0. I only use it to copy from certain items, i.e. > TV listings and then paste to office.org and then print and then discard. > The problem is there is a page of TV listings that won't delete. Can you > help, please? Steve Shook > << 6:00 PM6:30 PM7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM >> > 2 · CWThe King of Queens CC TVPGThe King of Queens CC TVPGAmerica's Next > Top Model CC TVPGOne Tree Hill CC TVPG > 3 · CBSNews Channel 3 at 6pmEverybody Loves Raymond CCJericho CC > TVPGCriminal Minds CC TVPG > 6 · ABC6 News First at 6According to Jim CC TVPGShow Me the Money CC > TVPGDay Break CC TV14 > 8 · FOXThat '70s Show CC TV14The Simpsons CCCheaper by the Dozen (2003) > CC TVPG (PG) **+ > 10 · NBCNewscenter at Six CCWheel of Fortune CC TVGMadonna: The > Confessions Tou... CC >> > 11 · PBSThis Old House CCGorillas: On the Trail of Ki... CC DVSAmerica's > Scenic Rail JourneysAmerica's Scenic Rail Journeys >> > 12 · TBSEverybody Loves Raymond CC TVPGEverybody Loves Raymond CC > TVPGEverybody Loves Raymond CC TVPGEverybody Loves Raymond CC > TVPGEverybody Loves Raymond CC TVPGEverybody Loves Raymond CC TVPG > 17 · WGNSATAmerica's Funniest Home Videos CC TVPGHome Improvement CCHome > Improvement CCBecker CCBecker CC > 21 · CMTVDukes of HazzardFoxworthy's Big Night OutFoxworthy's Big Night > OutFoxworthy's Big Night OutCMT Giants: Reba >> > 23 · SPIKETVCSI: Crime Scene Investigation CC TVPGCSI: Crime Scene > Investigation CC TVPGDiamonds Are Forever (1971) (PG) *** >> > 34 · ESPNNBA Shootaround CCNBA Basketball CC > 76 · LMN<< Born Into Exile (1997) CC TV14 (NR) ** (5:09)True Crime (1996) > CC TVPG (R) **Tempo (2003) CC TV14 (R) >> > 78 · WEUnwrapping Macy'sUnwrapping Macy'sPlatinum Weddings CC TVPGPlatinum > Weddings CC TVPGBridezillas CC TV14 1st. This is a Moderated message, which means to anyone else replying or posting to this, you need to carbon copy the original poster or they'll never get your response. 2nd. Sir / ma'am, this message was posted to a mail list served from the internet, and monitored by volunteers. So Please, understand this isn't a paid for service. 3rd. Try Undo, or Ctrl+Z, and your recently performed actions will be reversed. The problem here is that you are pasting, not text, but a block of HTML code into your OOo document, so from OOo's perspective you're dealing with a large block, not a section of text. 4th. Since you usually blow away the document just try closing the OOo window without saving your work. This will do away with whatever you've done since you last saved the doc. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] PLEASE REMOVE ME
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 3:58 pm, david altmeyer wrote: > HELLO, >COULD YOU PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE MAIL LIST ?? I AM GETTING HUNDREDS > OF MESSAGES !! > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you look at the lines above my reply down here you'll see the instructions you need. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Find Crashes Writer
I have a doc that I need to find a word in, so I hit the [Ctrl]+[F] for find, type in the word, and click "find". Well its fine until I click it more than about 6 times, and EVERY time Writer crashes. Running 2.0.4 in Kubuntu 6.10. Anyone else have this problem? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] stickykeys
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 3:26 am, Harold Fuchs wrote: > On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:51 PM [GMT+1=CET], susana carrillo > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi.how do i get rid of it > > Clean the keyboard with an alcohol based solvent. I have seen people unplug them take them to a shower and hose them down. Just make sure you use a mild soap, and rinse well. Of course they gave them plenty of time to dry off afterward, :-D. > Now, if you asked a sensible question and explained a little about your > system - which version of which OS, which version of OOo, what are > stickykeys etc. then someone might be able to give you a sensible > answer. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] ms infopath and oo.org
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 1:56 am, Rich wrote: > i wanted to find out what is the current status of ms infopath <-> > oo.org relationship. > is this something that works (or is planned to work) in oo.org ? > is this something that should be avoided whenever possible ? > if so, what are the alternatives that are the easiest to implement and > most portable ? > > i tried searching, but the only thing i could find was some old > discussion where a conclusion was found that infopath is a great lock-in. I would also like to know about that. We use it quite extensively where I work, and I'd really like to NOT have to. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OxygenOffice Professional 2.0.4 is ready for Download!
On Tuesday 14 November 2006 3:49 pm, arnold huzen wrote: > Kami has a habit of overflowing this list with extra, premium, extended > or whatever he wants to call his addition to OpenOffice. It start of > harmless like this one (although it was quite a bit of text) and then > keeps coming back every other day or so. > > This list is intended to support questions from users of OpenOffice.org. > This is not the place to be advertising other products, UNLESS they are > relevant to a posters question. > > I agree with Fred on this one. Stop this advertising asap. HUH??!?!? He's not selling anything is he? What's he advertising, except a free downloadable Extended version of OOo 2.0.4. What better place to let people know about it? He's not selling it, he's not even modifying the OOo base code, just adding some macros, graphics, etc. Most of which as much as I can tell, may be downloadable from multiple other sources. I think someone might tell him to reel in the length of the message, but a short, sweet blurb about their project should never be rejected here. > Richard Detwiler schreef: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Szalai Kálmán wrote: > >>>> OxygenOffice Professional 2.0.4 is ready for Download! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> OxygenOffice Professional 2.0.4 - Extended, open and free > >>>> > >>>> (formerly known as OpenOffice.org Premium) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Get more. Do more.<> > >> > >> I for one do not support this list so it can be used for advertising > >> your wonderfull OxygenOffice product. I am here to support OO. If > >> the group doesn't stop this I will soon be leaving the list and > >> privately support OO.. Fred > > > > > > Nothing is being sold here. I don't see where the problem lies. > > > > With the large number of postings to this list every day, I really > > don't see how an occasional posting such as this (which certainly > > could be of interest to the some of the readership of this list) > > negatively impacts my life in any way. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Flash Query
On Thursday 19 October 2006 1:15 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > > >I have attached a slideshow for you to see what I mean. > > I love the idea of downloading a 2.3 mb attachement just because you > were too lazy to put it somewhere on the www and provide the link in > your mail. People who still use dial-up connection will love you even > more. Here is my tip: before you attach anything to your e-mail, take > your time and think, then think again. Unfortunately the people have to issues with your reply: 1. They never saw it unless you CCed them because they're not subscribed to the list. 2. They probably thought they were sending this to "a person" or a "Help Desk" for assistance. While I'm on Broadband I still hate using email as a file transfer protocol. However, what I find more offensive is that this went through the moderator, who then allowed the 2.3 mb attachement. Not only that, but we allow people to send email to a list NOT KNOWING they are emailing a list (of course how they could NOT know is beyond me, I'm still looking for the link where people with no account on OOo can go to post a message.)!! Event though the contact page says "you must be subscribed to post a message"!! Why or How is this possible? This has caused too much headache. There has got to be a way to FORCE people to KNOW they are posting to a list and NOT an OFFICIAL "HELP DESK". -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Got an Einstein to install x-11 on my MacOSX10.4???
On Sunday 15 October 2006 1:56 pm, RON BASTONE wrote: > I was so excited about reading about, and then installing your Open > Office Application...and then came X-11 > When I tried to install int on my Tiger, it told me newer software is > already installed. The I finally got it installed, I have spent hours > reading your How to Install and Launch X-11 to no avail. I finally > gave up. You folks are developers and computer Wizards. I've been > using a computer since the very first Mac came out. Also used PC for > 10 years. I've never been so confounded by this ridiculous x-11 > hurdle. Can you send an Einstein to my house to install and launch > it? Because I am longing to test drive your wonderful office suite. > > RON BASTONE >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "wherever you go, there you are!" Nice Picture. hehe. Einstein has been dead for some time, so he wont be coming out. OpenOffice.org doesn't employ anyone as it is an "Open Source" project, and not a company. The list you sent this message to, is monitored by many volunteers and helpful folks. I would suggest that you look into alternatives that are more suited to your environment. I'm sure some one else on this list knows it better than I but I believe the name of the Suite is "Neo" something. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Word Perfect
On Sunday 15 October 2006 1:59 pm, cclayton4 wrote: > The Houston (TX) Chronical said you could help me get a free usable direct > down load of Word Perfect. Is this true, how do I do it. I couldn't figure > out your Web Site. It mentioned I would have to have some programs about > which I know nothing. Carl M. Clayton > Carl, The OpenOffice.org website is where you can download a free "Word Processor" not WordPerfect. It can open, at least as I understand it, word perfect files, however it is not the same. The Office Suite on that site is free for use in any situation, so feel free to follow the "Download OpenOffice.org" links and try it out. By the way, this is not a "Customer Support" service center, this is an email list where folks such as yourself can submit questions and receive help by a large number of volunteers. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why Can't I buy a CD Legitametly
On Sunday 15 October 2006 5:46 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 16/10/06, CPHennessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The OP was not subscribed, hence they do not see the responses unless > > directly CC:ed. > > I'll cc him my response then, and I'll be more careful in the future > to cc OP's on this list. > > Dotan Cohen > > http://auto-car.info/ > http://essentialinux.com/ Hang on a minute. IF the OP was not subscribed why was there not a "Moderated" tag at the beginning of the subject line? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why Can't I buy a CD Legitametly
On Sunday 15 October 2006 4:27 pm, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Notice how the OP disappeared completly? I wonder if this isn't an > agent of M$, planted here on the mailing list to drain our resources > and promote FUD. hehe. Well, the problem is you overcame evil with Good. I don't think the Original Poster expected such a positive response, and your offer just blew him out of the water, and drained his argument dry! As they would say down south, "You done good"!! If every Open Source project could react like this to such a negative post I think it would only be a matter of time before M$ withered away. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Why Can't I buy a CD Legitametly
On Sunday 15 October 2006 2:22 am, Jo wrote: > kc7hxy wrote: > > I tried your list of so called places to buy OOo 3.0.03 > > and all I got was a bunch of crokks trying to make money by selling me > > things I don't want. Please give me a legimate place to buy a CD of OOo. > > > > Bud > > Hi Bud, > > > OOo version 3.x.x doesn't exist yet. You'll have to make do with version > 2.0.4, which was just released a few days ago. OOo is free software (The > free relates to freedom, not price). This means it can be distributed by > anyone to anyone, either at no cost or for a small fee (± $10 is > acceptable). You can download it from www.openoffice.org at no cost > other than what your provider charges you for bandwith. > > You can also take up the offer of Dotan Cohen, who will send you one at > no cost. This means he sucks up the cost of the CD-R and the postage and > he puts in time to burn the CD and to mail it to you. That's really nice > of him, I would say! > > It is unfortunate indeed that there are people on the internet who want > to ride on the coattails of OOo and make an easy buck out of it. Not > everybody is like that though. > Well, its is unfortunate that there are those who contribute nothing, and yet gain a profit. However, if I were a developer, who had contributed code to the project, I might be persuaded to cell CDs and make a little while promoting it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Saturday 14 October 2006 2:52 pm, Karen Balabanian wrote: > Hi, > I want to know, is Openoffice like Microsoft? There are two answers. First NO! OOo does not lock you in (i.e. there are other Suite vendors who can open and save OOo docs), charge you a monopoly tax, or force you to upgrade and retrain against your will. As a matter of fact OpenOffice.org (OOo for short) will not even charge you, your employer, or your friends for using it! How's that? It also doesn't force you to run Micro$oft Windows! You can run Windows, Linux, Sun Solarace (sp?) , and Mac (however there's another OOo App that I can't remember that runs better on a MAC)! Second, YES! It does open MS Word .DOC, Excel .XLS, and powerpoint .ppt files with some formatting issues of course. (any time you cross from one vendor to the next with proprietary file formats like MS involved you'll have issues). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: What happened to AutoCorrect ?
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 10:32 am, Joe Smith wrote: > Jonathan Allen wrote: > > ... > > Thanks for that - I am pursuing it on the Fedora list. It seems that > > it hasn't been in FC OO since FC1 and significantly annoys some people > > but not enough to get it changed ... > > All the annoyed people in the world can't overcome one lawyer. > > I don't imagine this will change unless it comes from an outside repo, a > la mp3 support, or the relevant patents are overturned or some > protection becomes available. However, you can change distributions or download OOo straight from the website and install it yourself. Ubuntu, SUSE, Mandriva (which I hear is a darn fine distro), Debian (and if its in Debian surely someone is just being stupid at RedHat), etc. etc. There are WAY TOO many choices in the world to be stuck with Fedora, especially if they can't fix crap like this. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Sunday 08 October 2006 1:08 am, you wrote: > Hi Howard, > > Thanks for the quick come-back to my problem. > > Wasn't yellng--am 76 years old and coddling my eyes. > > Computer was turned to toast by lightning. Got new computer and tried to > transfer excel data from what was left of old computer. > > Seems you analyzed the problem correctly. > > How do I delete complete spreadsheets containing data from another program > (Excel), or convert the spreadsheets so I can use Open Office on them? > That's a good question. I think if you keep an eye on the list you posted your original message to, you'll get a better answer than I can give on that one. However, I'll try. In the Cell where the invalid reference exists you should be able to see the error. If you click on that cell you should see the contents of what spreadsheet its trying to access. What you "could" do, from what I know is save the current spreadsheet as an OOo (OpenOffice.org) spreadsheet, then find the spreadsheet its looking for and open it, and convert it, then change the reference. Or, you can just delete that cell. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Saturday 07 October 2006 9:28 pm, Jack Sanders wrote: > HAVE OPEN OFFICE. > > HAVE OBSOLETE FILES ON OPEN OFFICE CALC. > > CANNOT DELETE OBSOLETE FILES. > > "HELP" GIVES MESSAGES "CANNOT OPEN THESE PAGES". > > 1. HOW CAN I DELETE THE OBSOLETE FILES? > > 2. CAN I DOWNLOAD COMPLETE "HELP" FILES ONLINE? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] First ALL CAPS is equal to Yelling in email, and is generally considered rude or at least of bad taste. Second, I"m guessing, and could be wrong, that the problem you're really having is that you are opening a spreadsheet that used to contain data from another, or many other, spreadsheet. The problem is the OTHER spreadsheet(s) is gone and you need to know how to find the offending entry in the spreadsheet you want to open and get rid of that error. Am I right? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Saturday 07 October 2006 3:55 pm, shawn graham wrote: > I am trying to set up my microsoft office. They ask for a product code. > My computer came with the windows already installed therefore I do not > have a disk to provide the number. What is my next move to open and be > able to use the systemr 1. Uninstall MickySoft Office. 2. download Openoffice.org and install it. http://openoffice.org Then you wont have to worry about a registration code or M$'s stupid paranoid attitude. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] For those who like FREE software
On Sunday 10 September 2006 5:36 pm, Jack Gates wrote: > On Sunday 10 September 2006 18:14, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > On Sunday 10 September 2006 8:28 am, Jack Gates wrote: > > > On Sunday 10 September 2006 09:07, James Knott wrote: > > > > One is there are many fundamental flaws in Windows that allow a > > > > virus to > > > > infect a system. Windows was originally created with no concept > > > > of security or process protection. Add to that some incredibly > > > > stupid decisions, such as embedding the browser in the OS mean > > > > that the system is wide open to malware. Incidentally, IE was > > > > embedded in the OS, so that MS could claim in court that they > > > > couldn't remove IE, without crippling Windows. Further many > > > > Windows users run as Admin, simply because a) they don't know > > > > better and b) they often have to, to do certain things, such as > > > > install apps. Also, some apps require the user to have admin > > > > rights. This means that when a virus runs, it has full access > > > > to the entire system. > > > > > > Actually the decisions were incredibly smart because they secured > > > their hold on the mass of people who don't know any better and > > > don't care. Those same people will just go buy all the other > > > software to try to secure the system. Microsoft has a very good > > > marketing campaign I just don't agree with their deceptive > > > procedures behind it and I don't like their software. I stopped > > > using their software 4 years ago and won't go back to it. I like > > > Linux too much! Here is my take on the MS stuff > > > http://www.jlgates.com > > > > Well, Jack, I went to your site and all I see are wingdings, and > > I'm on Kubuntu running Firefox, what's the deal? > > How do you have Firefox configured because you should be able to all > of the text in a normal font. My site is a protest to all the sites > that can only be accessed properly with MS Windows and IE. > Eventually I am going to rewrite the entire site in XHTML with > completely letter perfect specifications. IE can't read a page > written that way. I had it configured to allow the web site to set the font, after I changed it to specify the font I could view your site. If you had really wanted to make sure NON IE browsers could view your site, you'd need to check what version of browser the visitor was using. I can't remember the HTML code, but its possible. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] For those who like FREE software
On Sunday 10 September 2006 10:36 am, Jack Gates wrote: > On Sunday 10 September 2006 10:20, James McKenzie wrote: > > And in case anyone asks, I cannot use 'freeware' including > > OpenOffice at work in an official capacity. > > > > James McKenzie > > Who do you work for that demands that you use only software that has > to be purchased and has such a militant attitude against using free > software? Ascension Health, and CSC! I had to use windows, and was even written up for "Playing with Linux" on my desktop. Even though eventually it got to the point where I could run it, there are situations when people are just plain paranoid about anything that works. If you are in a Shop where Windows rules the day, you run windows, Pure and simple. Its stupid, its buggy, its crash prone, but you have to run it. Thankfully I'm on the Midrange team of another company, while I still have to run Windows on my desktop, the servers I help support are either all RedHat Enterprise Linux, or AIX. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] For those who like FREE software
On Sunday 10 September 2006 8:28 am, Jack Gates wrote: > On Sunday 10 September 2006 09:07, James Knott wrote: > > One is there are many fundamental flaws in Windows that allow a > > virus to > > infect a system. Windows was originally created with no concept of > > security or process protection. Add to that some incredibly stupid > > decisions, such as embedding the browser in the OS mean that the > > system is wide open to malware. Incidentally, IE was embedded in > > the OS, so that MS could claim in court that they couldn't remove > > IE, without crippling Windows. Further many Windows users run as > > Admin, simply because a) they don't know better and b) they often > > have to, to do certain things, such as install apps. Also, some > > apps require the user to have admin rights. This means that when a > > virus runs, it has full access to the entire system. > > Actually the decisions were incredibly smart because they secured > their hold on the mass of people who don't know any better and don't > care. Those same people will just go buy all the other software to > try to secure the system. Microsoft has a very good marketing > campaign I just don't agree with their deceptive procedures behind it > and I don't like their software. I stopped using their software 4 > years ago and won't go back to it. I like Linux too much! Here is my > take on the MS stuff http://www.jlgates.com Well, Jack, I went to your site and all I see are wingdings, and I'm on Kubuntu running Firefox, what's the deal? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Distributions question - Is it legal...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 8:55 pm, Matt Needles wrote: > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:23 -0700, Richard Detwiler wrote: > > --- √Mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 8/31/2006 12:42 PM Helen Schroeder wrote : > > > > I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that > > > > > > authorized distribution? (Not incidentally, if > > > integrity is important to you and your program, > > > > > > > they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for > > > > > > which they actually paid 67 cents to ship.) > > > > > > Give them a POOR rating in their E-bay feedback. > > Hmmm why give them a POOR rating? Because the > > shipping cost was 67 cents? Or for what reason? > > For overcharging for shipping. Ebay has a policy against that. If it's > shipping, fine, otherwise charge the $7+ for the product. Forgive the double posting, but I hit the wrong button too quickly: the other thing to think about to balance this conversation is this: It costs more to ship something that what you pay the postal service. The package to put the CD in so that it doesn't get scratched, the time to go to the Post office, etc. All this adds up in time and investment. So, eight dollars may seem like an excessive amount when all you look at is the postage cost, can actually become a bargain when you consider all the other costs. What this all means is that it may seem that you got the "CD for free but pay way too much for shipping" treatment, when in fact you did get a bargain. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Distributions question - Is it legal...
On Saturday 09 September 2006 8:55 pm, Matt Needles wrote: > On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 10:23 -0700, Richard Detwiler wrote: > > --- √Mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 8/31/2006 12:42 PM Helen Schroeder wrote : > > > > I won a copy disc of this program on eBay. Is that > > > > > > authorized distribution? (Not incidentally, if > > > integrity is important to you and your program, > > > > > > > they charged me $8 to ship this little CD copy for > > > > > > which they actually paid 67 cents to ship.) > > > > > > Give them a POOR rating in their E-bay feedback. > > > > Hmmm why give them a POOR rating? Because the > > shipping cost was 67 cents? Or for what reason? > > For overcharging for shipping. Ebay has a policy against that. If it's > shipping, fine, otherwise charge the $7+ for the product. Its the old, "You can have the car for free if you buy the tires, but the tires cost $30,000.00" trick. You get the product for free, but you pay what the product would have cost, just to get it shipped or delivered. Unless, of course, they shipped the CD over night second day air, or something like that. Then it could very well have cost 8 dollars. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Premium version of OOo for Linux
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 9:32 pm, Terry wrote: > Even with SuSE, you can still use rpm rather than YAST. YAST is > supposedly based on rpm. > > Perhaps, instead of looking for software that SuSE will accept, you > should look for an operating system that will accept software. After > all, that's what operating systems are supposed to do. > > John Boyle wrote: > > To Users: When I asked what progress was being made towards a Linux > > premium, I meant one that SuSe would accept! I have found that just > > because it is "A" linux version, means very little to SuSe! In fact, > > NADA!!1 Well, its a little more complicated than that, especially in newer editions of SUSE 10. They've messed with the package management, and fouled everything up (hence the reason I am now running Kubuntu). However, the RPMs that are with OOo are installable on SUSE as I believe in the Linux download edition there is even a "SUSE" specific RPM for the desktop. And YaST is, on a basic level, a front end for RPM that also handles a little of the more SUSE specific config functions. However, if you are running a purchased "SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop" you have a better version than you can download (even in the OOo Premium) anyway, from what I've read about it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Capatible with Quickbooks?
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 5:49 pm, Stacy Mattheis wrote: > Hello, do you know if your latest version is compatible with Quickbooks Pro > 2006 software re: their Excel spreadsheet export? > > Thank you. > > Stacy Mattheis Well, having never actually used Quickbooks Pro, I can't say for sure. However, if Quickbooks saves its report in a standard Excel format OpenOffice "SHOULD" (key emphasis) be able to open it. The good thing is OpenOffice.org doesn't cost anything to download and try out other than time, so I'd recommend having a go at it, and letting the list know your results. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] "Recent Documents" list
On Thursday 20 July 2006 7:35 am, Richard Detwiler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 08:01 -0400, Richard Detwiler wrote: > >> A few days ago, I wrote that one particular file did not show up on the > >> list of Recent Documents (accessed by File > Recent Documents). > >> > >> I've been able to define this problem a little better. It's not just one > >> file, it's happening on all of my files. Any file that I now open will > >> show up at the top of my Recent Documents list, as it should, but only > >> until I shut down and restart. After the restart, the file has > >> disappeared from the list. > >> > >> The list that does appear is one that seems to be from a few weeks ago. > >> But no new files (or recently opened and saved files) get added to the > >> list -- other than temporarily, until the computer gets shut down. > >> > >> I checked another (non-OOo) application, and it seems to be remembering > >> its recent documents OK. > >> > >> I switched to OOo 2.0.3 on July 5, and this is roughly when I began > >> encountering the problem with Recent Documents. I can't say for sure it > >> exactly correlates with 2.0.3, however. > >> > >> Any thoughts? Is there any setting that somehow might have gotten > >> botched up? Thanks. > > > > Windows of some description? This sounds to me like permissions have > > changed on the file that keeps this info. Have you updated recently? Can > > you find where your files are kept? On my XP box they are in C: > > \Documnents and Settings\\Application Data\\ if I > > remember correctly. On XP this directory is by default hidden so be > > prepared to change settings in Windows Explorer. Check perms of the > > \user/\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\Common.xcu which is > > one of the files that keep history. > > Sorry, I should have given my operating system. Yes, it's Windows XP. > There may have been an update recently, it's set to auto-update whenever > MS in its wisdom thinks that Windows needs to be updated. The files are > kept in a directory similar to yours: C:\Documents and > settings\\My Documents. The "My Documents" directory is most likely not the problem unless that is where the list is stored. If that were true you would not be able to save docs if it were a permissions problem there. Under your Profile directory, look for an "Application Data/OpenOffice.org2" directory, or something along those lines. I'm not sure, as I don't run OOo on Windows very often any more, but I think the location where that list might be stored is in the Options. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: your ad doesn't deliever take this one instead
On Tuesday 27 June 2006 3:47 am, mike scott wrote: > On 27 Jun 2006 at 7:27, Mr. Vega wrote: > > hi, i've designed an ad for you, because i like openoffice.org and i want > > others to try it :) > > take a look > > http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/17/testgif.gif > > and i'll attach the other JPEG picture in my msg > > If there's to be /anything/ at all, please let it be in correct > English. "for free" may be alluringly alliterative, but it is not > idiomatic English. > > Was someone not asking recently about grammar checkers? I don't think, technically speaking, there is anything wrong with what he has written. Something is "for free" if it costs nothing, and that's an acceptable way to say it. However, Grammar aside, I think its better to just say "An All-in-One Office Suite that is Free" because that covers both, cost and freedom. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://risenbooks.com Christian bookstore - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Lotus WordPro Import Filters
On Sunday 07 May 2006 16:05, CPHennessy wrote: > On Sat May 6 2006 20:20, you wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-05-06 at 14:55 +0100, CPHennessy wrote: > > > On Tue May 2 2006 23:07, + thhealy wrote: > > > > [ MODERATED ] *** > > > > Hello, We have OO 2.02 just installed under WinXP Home and cannot > > > > import Lotus WordPro documents. > > > > > > > > Thanks you for your reply, and I will subscribe as soon as I can. > > > > > > > > We have literally thousands of documents in Lotus WordPro format - > > > > mostly their Millenium Edition. Many are carefully formatted with > > > > frames, kerning, etc. Timewise, it is impossible to open in WordPro > > > > every document we need to work with and export it into .doc or othet > > > > format, especially since the export function seems to damage the > > > > original formatting. > > > > > > Are they lwp files ? > > > If so, then there should be an option in "File" -> Open -> "file type" > > > for "Lotus WordPro". > > > > Which version of OOo? 2.0.2 does not offer this option. > > Ah, I am using the Novell version. I'm using the Debian (Kubuntu) version and I found it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OO.o for "Lindows"
On Saturday 06 May 2006 17:52, David Leeper wrote: > Q: Is there a ver of OO.o for "Lindows"? Yes, check out the CNR. However its Linspire now. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Open Office Word Processing Problems
On Saturday 29 April 2006 22:57, Peter K. wrote: > I would first like to start off by saying that Open Office is the worst > word processor I have ever had the mispleasure of using. I am using it > right now until I am able to install Microsoft Word. So . . . We should feel sorry for your inconvenience of having to use something free, or should we just call the whaaambulance to rescue you? Slamming the program like this is usually a good way to get ignored. *NIX OSes have a good device for these kinds of messages /dev/null. > Now, I do a lot of word processing documents: > I am using Open Office 2.0 > > > Heres the problem: Towards the few final pages of my document, the program > does not allow me to 'TAB' anymore, when I hit the button it brings me up > to a random point in the document. Towards the few final pages there seem > to be problems in terms of spacing, it's set at double spacing, yet when I > hit enter to start a new paragraph, there are larger gaps between them. > 'SPACING' to the end of a row to start a new paragraph doesn't want to > cooperate either, causing even more problems. So, let me get this straight. You "DO" understand the difference between "spacing" and "Line Spacing" correct? (Spacing is the distance that separates two paragraphs, Line Spacing is the distance that separates lines within a paragraph). As I understand it you are able to use the Tab key to space over, say to the right to exactly 2.5", at the beginning of a document, but say 90 pages later you get random positions on the page when you do this. My question then, if the above is correct, is do you have explicitly defined tab stops? Or, are you depending on the default of every half inch or so? I'm also thinking that you are able to get the spacing you want (double spacing in the paragraph with the appearance of a double space between paragraphs) near the beginning, but it doesn't work at the end? If both of my ideas above are near correct, I would also wonder about the speed and amount of RAM your computer has. > I am wondering if these problems are due to the amount of pages in the > document (95 pages.) Is this because of the page number, and am I able to > fix this? I am one very upset and annoyed person right now. Sorry for the initial sarcasm, its just beginning to wear on a lot of folks nerves that people like you and me get upset because feature A isn't doing what they expect and just start blasting the program as crap instead of cooling off and asking if its a PEBCAK or ID10T issue on their part. Remember the application is free, while that doesn't help your frustration, it should help your requests for help. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] What happened to the replace option?
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 16:33, Miguel Eduardo Flores Gómez wrote: > I am using version 2.0 of OpenOffice.org. My problem > is : i use the spanish version of OpenOffice 2.0.2, > it's a great program, but now i can't find the option > replace in the tools->autocorrection menu, and this > was one of my favorites tools, because y saved much > time using it. When I go to "Tools -> Autocorrect" I get a dialog box that pops up and one of the tabs there is "Replace" so I would say your's should have one as well. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] downloading 2.0 on windows xp
On Sunday 02 April 2006 15:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi there im trying to downlaod open office 2.0 but when i go back to my > desktop to 'unpack it ,it comes up 'The destinationfolder specified below > does not contain a open office.org2.0 version. It then wont let me go any > further . Can you help. Im a windows xp user Try downloading it again. And when you do get it down, double click on it, and select a better destination than the crazy default. However, I'm thinking that you have an incomplete download. I would point it to something like c:\temp\OOoinst (which is exactly what I do when I install OOo on Windows Machines. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Re: Lotus-Smartsuite-Files
On Sunday 02 April 2006 15:55, Thomas Voghera wrote: > Peter > > I have the same problem. > > If you find any can you please also notify me. > > TIA > Thomas Voghera [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been able to slowly (and painfully at times) get the files into OOo by saving them in WordPro as RTF files, and then Opening them in OOo. Very imperfect, and I lose some formatting, but at least I get the doc over. However, I would think we could maybe persuade someone at IBM to help in this effort. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Sunday 02 April 2006 16:20, Laith Sweiss wrote: > Hello there, > > I am a recent user of open office word processor, it is good and I > ampleased with it. The only problem I am having with it - is sending email > to someone with a text attachment created in open office writer, the other > person doesn't seem to be able to open this attachment, is there anything I > can do about this? > > Also if i create a presentation using open office impress - will another > pc be able to read it ok if they only have microsoft works, as i need to > use their laptop for college? You will need to save the files as MS Office files for the other person to view them. Other than that, yes, they should be able to open them. You might want to ask if the other person could download and install OOo to make both of your lives a little easier and free-er. My advice would be to do both. Save the files in OOo, as MS files that the version of Works they are using can open, and find a way to get them to install OOo for full Office Suite functionality without having to pay large sums of $$$. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] XP/Epson printing oddity
On Thursday 30 March 2006 08:51, mike scott wrote: > An oddity has just resurfaced when printing under XP. This used to > occur with OOo 1.x and now with 2.0; given the symptoms, maybe it's not > OOo at all, but XP. > > When printing a page in writer that has a mix of text and pictures, > just sometimes (usually when I'm in a hurry :-) ) the text won't print, > and just /one/ of the graphics is printed. Moving things around on the > page will sometimes persuade everything to print. > > I normally use an old Epson stylus 400, an ESC/P2 printer. I've found > now that selecting a postscript printer and printing to file, then > using ghostscript to print the resulting postscript works just fine > even when the same document fails as described on the 'real' printer. > So maybe it's the printer driver, not OOo. > > Has anyone encountered anything like this? And better, have a cure??? I take it by the use of Ghostscript that you're running Linux? If so you may need to configure the printer with very small margins. I've seen OOo not print something if it appears that part of it would overstep a print margin, (note: not a page margin, but the print margin). In other words if your printer definition says that you have a .4" margin top, and both sides, and a .6" margin on bottom, whatever crosses those borders may not print at all. (I say may, because sometimes it will). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Microsoft says Open Office.org 10 years behind
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 16:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the same spirit, I hope you won't take offense as I dissect your Not arguing with you (yet :- ), just a thought. For some reason, and it might be my kmail client, all your replies are replies to your previous posts or appear that way. I almost missed this one because of the way it shows up in the threads. Is it my kmail? Just need to know. Its just weirded out on my end I suppose. BTW: You DO have some good points, and those things I didn't fill in. (trying to just argue the OOo or other suite side). However, I argue the 2 year thing. We refresh PCs every 3 to 4 years, and servers every 5 now. This means that purchasing decisions have to focus around that. Now, in 2 years MS is going to say, "you HAVE to upgrade" for some reason or another. However in 2 years, OOo vendors are not. Now OOo itself may have gone through 2 versions, but I do not have to upgrade until I refresh the PC to support the upgrade in 3. That's one of those things that slides in. And your thoughts on the vendors. I'll give you that, but nearly always there are work-a-rounds. You could, for example have a few who maintain a copy of MSOffice (if even needed) for this purpose, or use pdf to exchange docs, or even RTF for editable docs. The Macros, are a different story, and I hope I did mention they would cause trouble if you rely on them heavily, if not, my bad. Of course, with IBM saying, we're going OOo (if indeed they do, and have announced it, I haven't researched that yet) the landscape might change some. They are a vendor big enough to cause other vendors to look that way. You had some good arguments, and I think if we combine it all we'll see that what really winds up happening is the exec responsible with the decision weighs the parts we leave out. 1. Easy. 2. Popular. 3. safe. If its easy, is it popular? If its not popular is it safe? If its not easy is it still popular? If its not easy, and not popular forget it. If its not easy, but popular it can default to safe so attempt it. If its easy but not popular it could default to not safe, try not to try it. (safe meaning job security). :-D. In all seriousness I think somewhere someone at a key position is waiting for something outside either app to swing the tide. I think Large companies, such as IBM, and governmental agencies, will be the something. But, that's just me. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Microsoft says Open Office.org 10 years behind
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 15:39, Chad Smith wrote: > On 3/7/06, Howard Coles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fact 1: you WILL spend the same amount in "lost productivity" because of > > "training" if you are upgrading to a new version of MS Office, especially > > if > > they have changed enough around to confuse folks. While the amount may > > be some bit smaller, you still have an amount, and it needs to be > > factored in. > > I think what you'll find is that training someone to use OOo doesn't cost > > all > > that much more than training them to use MSO 12. > > There will be some training either way (either organized training, or trial > and error training) of course - but the MS argument is that it is less when > going from MSO n to MSO n+1 than going from MSO n to OOo x. > > > Fact 2: This message demonstrates (by way of example, not that the post is > > > suffering from this) the complete lack of long term thinking that screws > > up > > major businesses today. > > > > Most people (myself included) are guilty of sacrificing the longterm on the > alters of the immediate. In fact, I have a saying that guides my life - > money now is always worth more than money later. That's why I pay Uncle > Sam every year instead of having him pay me. I want my money as I earn it > - not held up for me until next year. The point is, many firms operate > under the same kind of thought process - yes, I could spend $5 today to > possibly save me $100 next year, but I need the $5 now more than the 100 > later. > > Another problem with your thinking is that you assume there will be an > upgrade for OpenOffice.org. Seriously, who is to say there will be? It's > all done by volunteers (in theory, I know most coding is done by Sun > employees). What if nobody decides to keep working on it? Can you > guarentee me that there will be an OpenOffice.org 3.0? How about 5.0? I > have Billions of reasons to believe that there will be a Microsoft Office > 13 and even a 15. > > Businesses understand businesses. And even with all the backstabbing that > goes on, businesses trust businesses. Because businesses understand what > drives other businesses - and that is Money. OOo isn't driven by money, so > how can a business trust it when it doesn't understand its motivation? > > So there is a "big picture" long-term thinking at work here - just not the > kind you are thinking of. > > Another problem is a lack of support. What 800 number do you call at 2 am > on Saturday night to get tech support for your 500 seats of OpenOffice.org? > I know the one to call if it's a problem with MSO. Granted it will cost me > $35 a hour (or more) to call them - but it's there. > > It's not as simple as it looks. Your focus is too narrowed. There's StarOffice, which you can pay 75 bucks a seat for and get support, by a business. Truth is, support is available. Not only that, but you assume OOo is what you'll always have to use, not so. There are probably millions of reasons I can think of that would convince me that there will be another 5 or 6 versions of StarOffice. I also fail to mention the many other vendors who support OpenDocument format, and the many vendors who, for a smaller fee than MS, will support your OOo conversion and troubleshooting needs. (as a matter of fact I know of two such companies in my city, and have worked with one). Point is there are solutions that could put money in your pocket today if the execs would just look for them. Like I mentioned in my post, you could buy a number of licenses from Sun for StarOffice for those occassions when advanced features, and support are needed. However, the fact is that in most companies the greater majority of users never see MSOffice because its too expensive to put on their desktop anyway. Out of some 6000 users on our network I'd venture than only about 1000 have MSOffice installed, the rest, just the free viewer. Now, what would be wrong with converting those 1000 to Sun's StarOffice for only $75 a seat (you may even be able to work a better deal with them who knows), and giving the rest OOo? OR, giving the rest Adobe Acrobat reader and having all docs saved as PDF files. There's money in the pocket now (savings per seat from MS noting that training is a wash because either way you ARE going to do that), and money for the future. Figure that! And if you are a part of a company that only looks at today, it must really stink, and probably will not be around long anyway. Why? Because businesses are like people, those who think of today only die tomorrow. People think long term when they buy two weeks of groceries knowing they don&
Re: [users] Microsoft says Open Office.org 10 years behind
f example) the lack of "Big Picture" thinking that execs are always trying to make us peons think they're doing. Why? Because it completely lacks the foresight to realize that once you keep on this upgrade path with MSO you lose access to old docs unless you spend big and Time manually keeping them up to date in doc format. It also ignores the fact that you become completely dependant on one company for a proprietary app to fix problems (IF it wants to) and security holes. NOT that your company would fix them itself, but, if OOo developers didn't want to get it right, there is always another WordProcessor or Suite that will handle OpenDoc format that you could switch to. It also ignores the fact that OOo has been able to do things MSO can do for some time, and if any CxO believes their hype they deserve to be removed from the building. I can believe that MSO may be in some ways more advanced, but not 10 years advanced. Not to mention that 95% of any workforce only uses 10% of a word processor's "feature" list anyway. So, if you are an exec (which I hope the above message was written by one) who really looks at the "Big Picture" then you should be able to see through the hype on either side of this issue, and still come to realize OOo is better for your company. Fact 4: "Lost Productivity" due to switching is nearly a myth, because it assumes those workers would have actually been doing something productive during the times you were training them, or that they were all that affective in working with MSO software to begin with. :-D This is the lighter side of things. Seriously, its not really "lost" productivity anyway. Yes its true, while they are in training they are not productive at all, but its an investment, not a clear loss If by spending 20,000 dollars training a group of people to use a free Software package I save 100,000+ dollars over the next 4 years, I have more than recuperated my losses. True OOo will have its patches, and upgrades, just like MSO, but think about this, when the next version of OOo comes out how much will it cost to upgrade, will you be forced to upgrade, and will you lose access to older docs and have to spend time converting them? Fact 5: "TCO" is nebulous at best, and can be skewed in any direction the person putting the figures together wants it to go, and in my opinion nearly impossible to nail down to any exact figure. There are so many ways to figure this that I could certainly find a way that would favor MS and a way that would favor OOo. Here's the truth: All software costs money, even free software. The difference? What will you spend on a switch to OOo that you would NOT spend upgrading to the next version of MSO? Well, I would need to (re) train users either way, I would need to install new software either way, I would have compatibility issues either way, but I would only have continued license costs the MSO way, and I will have to spend money converting some MSO spreadsheets and macros to OOo. Not only that, if I want corporate support, what is the difference between what I would pay MS per seat as opposed to what I would pay Sun (for example) per seat for StarOffice? This would all depend on your license agreement with MS. Many like to say MSO costs 450 to 500 dollars a seat, I know this is NOT so. Granted its not as cheap as say a 75 dollar per seat license for Sun, considering that you could probably get away with only buying licenses for covering execs and advanced users and using OOo for everyone else. This is how I figure TCO for those who just insist that it be figured up. What will cost to continue or upgrade with app a, and what will it cost to switch to app b. I believe that if any honest exec, or CxO sits down and uses true figures they'll realize that of all the possibilities out there, MS is the most expensive long term solution on the market. Fact 6: "We need to be able to exchange documents with other companies" is a flimsy excuse, and never a reason. Its the last ditch effort of a lost cause that makes everyone go "uh, we can't make our suppliers switch." Listen, OOo does a very decent job opening and saving docs in MS format. NO, not perfect, but very good. Not only that, if I'm paying company A good money to do business with me, asking them to download a free Suite to interact with me isn't asking much. I have worked for the last 4 years at my MSO only shop using OOo exclusively. The result? no one notices. So, I can by 4 years experience say that company A will do just fine if we save docs we send to them in MS format, or ask them to use OOo. This is, just my way of seeing it. I could be wrong somewhere, but I think I've got a decent handle on things. I know that OOo is not perfect, and has its gotchas, and can
Re: [users] OpenDocument format
On Friday 03 March 2006 08:00, Bob wrote: > An article in today's New York Times indicates that many governments and > institutions are supporting the adoption of the OpenDocument Format. > Here's a short quote from the article, which can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/qso6s > > To cope with the problem, 30 companies, trade groups, academic > institutions and professional organizations are announcing today the > formation of the OpenDocument Format Alliance, which will promote the > adoption of open technology standards by governments. > > Does OpenOffice support the OpenDocument Format, or does it plan to do so? That is its native format. So, yes, it does. Along with Kword, and Abiword I believe, and IBM mentioned something about it in some product they're working on. However, last I heard, one of the companies involved in developing the OpenDocument Format isn't going to be supporting it, Corel I believe in WordPerfect. Micro$oft has too much invested in Corel to let them support OpenDocument. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE
On Thursday 02 March 2006 22:11, Christopher L. Miles wrote: > I am so damn hot a the moment with this open office! My problem is the > computer was use by my brother and he didn't shut the computer down > properly and now when I try to open the open office document file it's > going to a press "Start Recovery" to start the recovery process of the > documents below. Where in the hell is the Start Recovery at? > > > I got a damn report do in the morning that I can not finish because of this > bullshit! I take it that what you "don't" see is the "Start" buttons at the bottom right corner of the dialog box, or even a "next"? Well, if you just hit the "esc" key you should be able to blow right by that for now. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Erratic user function behavior
On Tuesday 28 February 2006 18:08, Fred Grant wrote: > In the IDE I have: > Function addit (a) > dim a as integer > a = a + 1 > addit = a > End Function > In cell A2 when I enter a user function such as =addit(A1) the screen > freezes for a long time. If I try to close the program I get "document > cannot be closed while a link is being updated". > > I have ver 1.1.2 on Fedora Core2 and I've done things like this in the > past with no problem. > > Any thoughts? Try giving your variable a name different than the function name. That may be causing your problems. I'm by NO means a knowledgeable person on this, but from what programming I have studied this would be bad thing. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OT: DSL (Linux)
On Saturday 25 February 2006 17:37, Eric Jackson wrote: > On Saturday 25 February 2006 11:38 am, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > > However, you must be aware that a distribution that runs from the CD will > > be VERY slow, so don't judge performance by that. Also it may not "from > > the CD" run and see all your hardware properly, like it would if you > > edited the right config file. > > Nobody mentioned Puppy Linux. It is a live CD but unlike the others, it > doesn't run programs from the CD. It loads everything into ram so it's > fast. You can make a mulitsession CD or DVD so that you can install and > make changes. If you are using Windows, it allows you to create a "pup > file" so that you can save your settiing and install other software. I > installed OpenOffice on my version of Puppy. > > It can be installed on your hard drive for a dual boot with Windows, if you > want and it can be installed on a flash drive as long as your bios supports > booting from a USB device. > I've never even looked at Puppy linux, so I couldn't say. However, that does sound like something that could come in handy. I'll have to give it a once over. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OT: DSL (Linux)
On Saturday 25 February 2006 01:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am getting ready to rebuild my Windows laptop. > I am thinking of trying out a dual-book with Windows and Linux. > > > 1)I have heard of Linux systems that will run from a CD so that they > can be "tried" out. > Does anyone know where I can get one of these CDs (or ISO I have someone > download) and which Linux would be best for someone Linux stupid? there are several Good Linux Distros for new Users: SUSE Linux http://opensuse.org Red Hat (or Fedora Core as its known now). http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/fedora/ Good for new users, but not sure if fedora has a "live cd" version. Kubuntu (my favorite 'cause its Debian based without all the headaches a new user would face trying Debian). http://www.kubuntu.org I like KDE better than I do Gnome, hence the reason for Kubuntu. The Ubuntu cds are Gnome based, so If you try it and like it better go for it. I've heard Knoppix is good, but haven't tried it. and others. > > 2)Also, I heard that there is a version of Linux that will run from > a thumb drive called DSL. (D*mn Small Linux). > Has anyone ever tried this or know how to set this up? I have the thumb > drive ready. Not sure about this one, but I believe Mandriva has such a beast as well, and its been known to also have a live cd and be very user friendly. http://www.mandriva.com However, you must be aware that a distribution that runs from the CD will be VERY slow, so don't judge performance by that. Also it may not "from the CD" run and see all your hardware properly, like it would if you edited the right config file. Having a partition on which you can install Linux is much better. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! "The act of faith is the obedience of the understanding to God revealing, and the product of that is the obedience of the will to God commanding." Matthew Henry, on Romans 1:5 Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] OT: DSL (Linux)
On Saturday 25 February 2006 01:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am getting ready to rebuild my Windows laptop. > I am thinking of trying out a dual-book with Windows and Linux. > > > 1)I have heard of Linux systems that will run from a CD so that they > can be "tried" out. > Does anyone know where I can get one of these CDs (or ISO I have someone > download) and which Linux would be best for someone Linux stupid? there are several Good Linux Distros for new Users: SUSE Linux http://opensuse.org Red Hat (or Fedora Core as its known now). http://www.redhat.com/en_us/USA/fedora/ Good for new users, but not sure if fedora has a "live cd" version. Kubuntu (my favorite 'cause its Debian based without all the headaches a new user would face trying Debian). http://www.kubuntu.org I like KDE better than I do Gnome, hence the reason for Kubuntu. The Ubuntu cds are Gnome based, so If you try it and like it better go for it. I've heard Knoppix is good, but haven't tried it. and others. > 2)Also, I heard that there is a version of Linux that will run from > a thumb drive called DSL. (D*mn Small Linux). > Has anyone ever tried this or know how to set this up? I have the thumb > drive ready. Not sure about this one, but I believe Mandriva has such a beast as well, and its been known to also have a live cd and be very user friendly. http://www.mandriva.com However, you must be aware that a distribution that runs from the CD will be VERY slow, so don't judge performance by that. Also it may not "from the CD" run and see all your hardware properly, like it would if you edited the right config file. Having a partition on which you can install Linux is much better. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] How to offset page numbers
On Saturday 21 January 2006 22:18, Max Haltermann wrote: > A Writer document I am editing starts with page 7. > Using Insert/fields/page number always reverts to 7. > > I have downloaded many pages of help text form Open > Office .org, but either they refer to earlier versions or > don't work as described. I have OOo v.2.0 > > How can I get it to start at 1? > > How can I get it to start at a number in the hundreds > as part of previous chapters..? I'm not exactly sure how to help you myself other than to say, it would be a good idea to post a fresh message to the list, instead of replying to another message and just changing the subject. The reason for that is many mail readers "thread" messages, and your message got stuck under an old thread in my reader, and it may have been overlooked by someone else who has moved on. I've never had a document get stuck on starting on a page other than 1. So, you have inserted a page number field in your document, and it starts at 7? Have you double clicked on the number and edited the offset? (in mine if you double click on the grey area where the number shows up it brings up the edit fields box). In the lower right corner of the edit field box is an option called "offset" which adjusts what number the page numbering starts at. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! "The act of faith is the obedience of the understanding to God revealing, and the product of that is the obedience of the will to God commanding." Matthew Henry, on Romans 1:5 Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated]
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 20:10, G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 11:53 +1100, Andre and Fiona Mangan wrote: > > Dear folks at OpenOffice.org, > > > > Why is Quattro Pro available as a conversion filter in the GNU/Linux > > version of OpenOffice.org Calc but not in the MSWindows version ? > > Hmm, not in my copy of 2.0.1. Are you, perhaps, confusing OOo with > StarOffice? StarOffice does have such filters as Sun chose to purchase > them and integrate them. Actually I just had a look at my OOo install and Quattro Pro (*.wb2) files are an import option. I'll have to check on the Windows version later. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] question on open office products
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 20:14, Marie Congalosi wrote: > Which of your products is similar to MS Publisher? > Thank you. > Marie Congalosi Non I don't believe, what you would want is a desktop publishing app. That is unless you could use Draw as a publishing app, and I'm not sure why you couldn't. However, I would have a look at Scribus which IS a desktop publishing app. http://www.scribus.net would be the home page. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Crash
On Monday 16 January 2006 10:41, Mason Cole wrote: > I am using Windows XP Service Pack 2 and Open office 2.01. > > On 1/16/06, Howard Coles Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 16 January 2006 08:53, Mason Cole wrote: > > > Every time I use instant spell check(right clicking a word that is > > > identified as misspelled) Open Office crashes. Does anyone else have > > > > this > > > > > problem? Is there a fix? > > > > I have seen this when I used a Thesaurus dictionary from 1.1.5 (installed > > via > > dicOOo). You may want to look in the directory where your dictionaries > > are > > stored and see if this is true. Of course if I knew what version of OOo > > and > > what OS I would be able to direct you to the directory. > Mason L. Cole Look under "Program Files\OpenOffice.org 2.0\share\dict\ooo" and make sure your thesaurus files have a "V2.dat" or "V2.idx" at the end. If you are using the english version your files should be dated somewhere around Sept. 12 of this year, and the "en_US.dic" should be 695728 bytes or there about. I can't remember if I've upgraded my windows partition to 2.0.1 on this box so the date and size of the en_US.dic file may be off a little. Of course someone who knows more about the dictionary files may be able to help more here if this isn't the problem. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Using dictionaries
On Sunday 15 January 2006 06:10, Javier Enríquez de Salamanca wrote: > I have just installed OO 2.0. > > Can I use the dictioraries I had for OO 1.0? If so: How can I have OO 2.0 > recognizing them?. > > On the other hand: is it there any system for using the oficcial > dictionaries like Oxford or the one from the "Real Academia Española de la > Lengua" Not generally, however, the personall dictionaries you MAY be able to use as another poster directed you. However the main spell check dictionaries, and the Thesaurus files are different. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Crash
On Monday 16 January 2006 08:53, Mason Cole wrote: > Every time I use instant spell check(right clicking a word that is > identified as misspelled) Open Office crashes. Does anyone else have this > problem? Is there a fix? I have seen this when I used a Thesaurus dictionary from 1.1.5 (installed via dicOOo). You may want to look in the directory where your dictionaries are stored and see if this is true. Of course if I knew what version of OOo and what OS I would be able to direct you to the directory. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Worthless
On Friday 13 January 2006 10:02, Jim Parkhurst wrote: > Sorry to hear that. My mom - (75yrs young) - is using OpenOffice to do > the minutes of the local "seasoned citizens" center. Once she figured > out the differences from a typewriter(!), she has been paying with it. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/12/2006 14:10 >>> > > Just wanted to take a minute to tell you how truely horrible OpenOffice > is. > > I am running Debian Linux, not by choice, but because my office > requires it. > > I attempted to apt-get the new OpenOffice but it wanted me to updated > my kernel which isn't broken.. so no, I will not update it. > > I then downloaded OpenOffice from the website and it was a tarred up > file that contained 25+ .rpm files and not a single readme to tell me > how to install it. I have no clue what to do with these rpm files. > > This is the epitomy of why Linux will never EVER EVER be used by the > average person. I was completely fooled into thinking your software > would help bridge the gap, it only made it much worse. 25 rpm files, > what a joke. To add to that the Treasurer of our church who is retired (and for correctness I will not guess her age) is using Ubuntu linux and OpenOffice.org / GnuCash to do our finances, and my Mom (60+ years young) is learning to use OpenOffice for general purposes. I have found there are generally three reasons people have a hard time with changing applications / Operating systems: 1. Fear of computers in general. 2. Never learned "what" they were doing (in terms of the principles) in the older app / OS only the exact steps to get x or y to happen. 3. Don't want to. Usually if I can get someone over 1 & 2 above I've got it made, and can then change the app / OS without a problem. However 3 is a pain because no matter how hard you try, or how much they are told by bosses or whatever that they have to, they will not learn it. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Adding a Thesaurus
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 00:07, Howard Coles Jr. wrote: > I have tried using the dicOOo macro, and I've searched using Google, and I > cannot figure out how to safely add a Thesaurus dictionary to OOo 2.0. > > I am running Kubuntu 5.1 (breezy) with OpenOffice.org 2. There is no .deb > file for the thesaurus for some reason, and finding out why has been > equally frustrating. So, attempting to add one manually has been > impossible. I tried using the dicOOo macro, but OOo crashes when I do. > (the version of dicOOo I found was 1.4 if there is a newer one that > supports 2.0 better please point me to it and I'll try it) > > I have asked on the Kubuntu list, however they just say "Use > File->Wizards->Install New Dictionaries" but that has never worked either, > so I'm stuck. > > I have searched and dug for hours, its now midnight, I'm asking for as much > help here as anyone can give. Sorry I have no idea why that email address was still in my config, however, I found a work around for the problem which I sent to the Kubuntu list as follows: (however if someone knows where I can download the dicOOo 1.5.5 that works with OpenOffice.org2 I'd appreciate it) You have to download and install a windows version to do this, however, it does work. If you have OpenOffice.org 2 installed on (K)Ubuntu, from the persons repository, (thank you for creating the .deb files that you did!), but miss the Thesaurus function as I did, then you have to copy the Hyphen and Thesaurus Dictionaries from a Windows install. If you try to use dicOOo (version 1.4 that is) you will get the thesaurus files for OOo 1.1.x, not 2.0.x. So, on your Windows install under the OpenOffice.org directory, look for share/dict/ooo/ You will see the files that start with "hyph_" or "th___v2" (.dat and .idx for the thesaurus files). copy them according to your language and country, to /usr/share/myspell/dicts Then edit the /usr/share/myspell/dicts/dictionary.1st to include the newly copied dictionaries. It should look something like: ## !!! BEGIN AUTOMATIC SECTION -- DO NOT CHANGE !!! ## !!! ADD YOUR ADDITIONAL ENTRIES BELOW THIS SECTION !!! DICT en GB en_GB DICT en US en_US ## !!! END AUTOMATIC SECTION -- DO NOT CHANGE !!! THES en US th_en_US_v2 HYPH en US hyph_en_US (some dates may be here as there were in mine). -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[users] Adding a Thesaurus
I have tried using the dicOOo macro, and I've searched using Google, and I cannot figure out how to safely add a Thesaurus dictionary to OOo 2.0. I am running Kubuntu 5.1 (breezy) with OpenOffice.org 2. There is no .deb file for the thesaurus for some reason, and finding out why has been equally frustrating. So, attempting to add one manually has been impossible. I tried using the dicOOo macro, but OOo crashes when I do. (the version of dicOOo I found was 1.4 if there is a newer one that supports 2.0 better please point me to it and I'll try it) I have asked on the Kubuntu list, however they just say "Use File->Wizards->Install New Dictionaries" but that has never worked either, so I'm stuck. I have searched and dug for hours, its now midnight, I'm asking for as much help here as anyone can give. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] [moderated] Have to complete the 'Welcome' page every time I Log on
On Sunday 11 December 2005 01:28, Barry Bell wrote: > Hullo Team, > > Have installed OpenOffice 2.0 from the TurboCash CD I purchased 2weeks ago > which was their latset release. My TurboCash programme upgraded to the > latest level and then I went on to upgrade my OpenOffice form 1.1.4 > level.(I have been using OpenOffice for nearly 5 years now and am a > registered user) However with this latest release 2.0 it will not load on > start up without asking me to complete the 'welcome' page. I have tried > re-registering and all other posibilities but nothing helps. If I try to > re-register am told that I'm registered. What to do next? > > Also I see level 2.0 does not completely accept the previous level and if I > open a spreadsheet or text it will open but on closing I am asked if I want > to save as current or in level 2.0. If I save in 2.0 I have check very > carefully - time consuming. Is this because I have both levels installed at > the same time? I kept the 1.1.4 level installed as I didn't want to lose > all my working data. Could this be the problem? make sure that you are running the latest code, as I've heard that some CD's are still 1.9.195 or something. It could be that the version on that CD was one that had this as a known issue. I've never had the problem, but I've seen this topic come up quite a bit during the beta testing. -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! Christian Books On-Line http://risenbooks.com http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [users] Profanity in the dictionary and thesaurus
On Monday 21 November 2005 10:29 am, Robin Laing wrote: > Tim Wescott wrote: > > CPHennessy wrote: > >> On Fri November 18 2005 03:08, Craig Herman wrote: > >>> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary and > >>> thesaurus. Is it possible to remove these? I have tried, but I have > >>> been unsuccessful. I would like to use these at my school, but with > >>> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible. > >> > >> Look for a file like : > >> /share/dict/ooo/en_US.dic > >> > >> Maybe it would be a selling point for OOo in schools to censor words > >> from it's dictionary :) > > > > Dic? DIC?!? Do you know what the spell checker suggests I replace this > > with? > > > > Oddly enough when I checked the thesaurus I did not get any hits on the > > expected genitive organ, nor did a thesaurus search on said genitive > > organ come up with "dick". If f**k (which I cannot bring myself to > > spell out in a public newsgroup, even though I may say it from time to > > time) is in there, whyinhell isn't "dick"? > > > > Craig, I'm with you in as much as you feel such words need to be > > deleted. I would mention that if the children in question are high > > school age (US, 14 and up) or higher they already are at least as > > familiar with them as you are. At that age they should be learning how > > to refrain from using them rather than be protected from ever hearing > > them. If it's a grade school (US, 11 and down) delete it. I teeter on > > the edge for middle schoolers; either decision contains right and wrong > > in equal measure for kids that age. > > Once being a young boy (oh so many years ago) the shock of using f**k > around the house didn't work as my mother would use it to. Working > around the military I found that it was used all the time. No shock > value, just there. > > My kids hear it when I hit my finger with the hammer or rip my knuckle > open when a wrench slips but I also explain to them that it is a word > that isn't proper to use. > > If I censor my OOo dictionary and my StarDictionary, it still leaves > the hardcopy dictionaries to censor. > > I agree that it is a sensitive subject for many but if the shock value > is removed, then the work isn't as bad as many make it out to be. > > Listen to George Carlin's "Seven words you cannot say on television" > and it puts things into perspective. > > At least it was mentioned how to remove the words if you wish. I do > agree that a "Censored" version of the dictionary could be handy for > schools and could be used for promotional interest. > > I for one would not like a dictionary that didn't include f**k in it > as I would wonder what else has been censored and in fact, I have > actually made an effort since the 1970's to ensure that any dictionary > I purchase has it in. There is NO Reason for it being there. NONE! It must be removed or OpenOffice.org will become boycotted on many levels, Schools, religious organizations, and Governments, as well as possibly liable if/when someone with enough money decides that it falls under the rule of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. There is no reason for it, or any other profane word, and "removing the shock value" is an unacceptable "work around". Every SMTP Spam filter I know of filters these words, why on earth would any self respecting Word Processor maker put these in a Thesaurus? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! http://home.comcast.net/~dhcolesj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
