Re: [users] page styles

2009-12-01 Thread ccornell - OpenOffice.org

How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles?



Footers are a different matter, and as far as I know that is linked to
the page style.  Have you tried the Writers Guide?  There is a chapter
in it on using styles.  If you do not have a copy you can get one at
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3 .  You can get the
individual chapters or the whole book.


You can also get the same OOo User Guides from the OOoWiki:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation

The Writer User Guide is here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide

and I believe the section you're looking for is here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Working_with_page_styles

C.
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Re: [users] page styles

2009-12-01 Thread James

On 11/30/09 08:49, Barbara Duprey wrote:

RA Brown wrote:

James wrote:

On 11/28/09 23:59, RA Brown wrote:

James wrote:

I've got a first page and then a TOC.
The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of
contents page has a page style of "Default".
I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the
"Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.
My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first 
page.

When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC
page changes to "Default" page style.
This is not what I expected or wanted.


James,

I think what your looking for in under the Paragraph styles, not page.


--
Andy Brown


How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles?



Footers are a different matter, and as far as I know that is linked to
the page style.  Have you tried the Writers Guide?  There is a chapter
in it on using styles.  If you do not have a copy you can get one at
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3 .  You can get the
individual chapters or the whole book.

--
Andy


James, this is a good reference about styles in general, and they're 
so important and useful throughout OOo that they're really worth your 
time to learn. In this specific case, though, I think what you need to 
do is modify the First Page style to use Index as its next style 
(Index uses Index). Then on the last page of your index, insert a page 
break selecting Default as the page style.


It works if I insert a page break from the menu and specify the next 
page style set to what I want.
I cannot use ctrl-enter to insert a page break and then change the page 
style on an existing page.


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Re: [users] page styles

2009-11-30 Thread Barbara Duprey

RA Brown wrote:

James wrote:
  

On 11/28/09 23:59, RA Brown wrote:


James wrote:
  
  

I've got a first page and then a TOC.
The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of
contents page has a page style of "Default".
I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the
"Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.
My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first page.
When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC
page changes to "Default" page style.
This is not what I expected or wanted.

 


James,

I think what your looking for in under the Paragraph styles, not page.


--
Andy Brown

   
  

How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles?




Footers are a different matter, and as far as I know that is linked to
the page style.  Have you tried the Writers Guide?  There is a chapter
in it on using styles.  If you do not have a copy you can get one at
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3 .  You can get the
individual chapters or the whole book.

--
Andy


James, this is a good reference about styles in general, and they're so 
important and useful throughout OOo that they're really worth your time 
to learn. In this specific case, though, I think what you need to do is 
modify the First Page style to use Index as its next style (Index uses 
Index). Then on the last page of your index, insert a page break 
selecting Default as the page style.


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Re: [users] page styles

2009-11-29 Thread RA Brown
James wrote:
> On 11/28/09 23:59, RA Brown wrote:
>> James wrote:
>>   
>>> I've got a first page and then a TOC.
>>> The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of
>>> contents page has a page style of "Default".
>>> I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the
>>> "Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.
>>> My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first page.
>>> When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC
>>> page changes to "Default" page style.
>>> This is not what I expected or wanted.
>>>
>>>  
>> James,
>>
>> I think what your looking for in under the Paragraph styles, not page.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Andy Brown
>>
>>
> How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles?
> 

Footers are a different matter, and as far as I know that is linked to
the page style.  Have you tried the Writers Guide?  There is a chapter
in it on using styles.  If you do not have a copy you can get one at
http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3 .  You can get the
individual chapters or the whole book.

--
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Re: [users] page styles

2009-11-29 Thread James

On 11/28/09 23:59, RA Brown wrote:

James wrote:
   

I've got a first page and then a TOC.
The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of
contents page has a page style of "Default".
I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the
"Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.
My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first page.
When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC
page changes to "Default" page style.
This is not what I expected or wanted.

 

James,

I think what your looking for in under the Paragraph styles, not page.


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How do I make a different footer for each page using paragraph styles?

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Re: [users] page styles

2009-11-28 Thread RA Brown
James wrote:
> I've got a first page and then a TOC.
> The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of
> contents page has a page style of "Default".
> I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the
> "Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.
> My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first page.
> When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC
> page changes to "Default" page style.
> This is not what I expected or wanted.
> 

James,

I think what your looking for in under the Paragraph styles, not page.


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[users] page styles

2009-11-28 Thread James

I've got a first page and then a TOC.
The first page has the page style of "First Page" but the table of 
contents page has a page style of "Default".
I put the insertion point on the TOC page and double click in the 
"Styles and Formatting" window on the "Index" page style.

My TOC page changes to the "Index" page style but so does my first page.
When I change the first page back to "First Page" page style, my TOC 
page changes to "Default" page style.

This is not what I expected or wanted.


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RE: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-25 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
 

-Original Message-
From: Harold Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:12 PM
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

On 08/06/2008 21:12, TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries wrote:
> Thank you Michele. I searched on the string "borders on page-text-area",
> from the subject line of this thread, and I got back a 24 hits, all
messages
> dated between 2002 and 2006. Even your message, to which I am responding
> here, did not show up. Feeling confused, no idea what gmane means. Would
you
> be willing to suggest further?
>   
Did you put the text "borders on page-text-area" in quotes in the search 
box? I think you'll get better results if you do ...

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Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-08 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 08/06/2008 21:12, TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries wrote:

Thank you Michele. I searched on the string "borders on page-text-area",
from the subject line of this thread, and I got back a 24 hits, all messages
dated between 2002 and 2006. Even your message, to which I am responding
here, did not show up. Feeling confused, no idea what gmane means. Would you
be willing to suggest further?
  
Did you put the text "borders on page-text-area" in quotes in the search 
box? I think you'll get better results if you do ...


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RE: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-08 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
Thank you Michele. I searched on the string "borders on page-text-area",
from the subject line of this thread, and I got back a 24 hits, all messages
dated between 2002 and 2006. Even your message, to which I am responding
here, did not show up. Feeling confused, no idea what gmane means. Would you
be willing to suggest further?

Thanks,
Elchanan  

-Original Message-
From: Michele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:38 AM
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

> -
> Would someone be willing either to
>
> a. attach the example again
> b. explain briefly how to search in the archive so that I can find it (and
> other things) for myself.
>
> Thank you!
> Elchanan
>

The archives can be searched here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?listName=users
or on gmane (probably more powerful search engine).

If you know the month/person who sent the message you can instead
start from here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=users

Cheers,

Michele

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Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-08 Thread Michele
> -
> Would someone be willing either to
>
> a. attach the example again
> b. explain briefly how to search in the archive so that I can find it (and
> other things) for myself.
>
> Thank you!
> Elchanan
>

The archives can be searched here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SearchList?listName=users
or on gmane (probably more powerful search engine).

If you know the month/person who sent the message you can instead
start from here:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=users

Cheers,

Michele

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RE: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-07 Thread TechAdmin @ VibrantLivingMinistries
From: Sander Marechal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:37 AM
To: users@openoffice.org
Subject: Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

Brian Barker wrote:
> One workaround may be to insert a one-column, one-row table into your 
> document.  You can give this table a border.  Next insert your text 
> material.  Then drag the bottom of the table border on one page to 
> the bottom of the text area.  The other pages should follow suit.
> 
> Example attached.

Your example seems to work quite well. Thanks!

I've also been reading the ODF 1.1 and draft 1.2 specs. It seems indeed 
that you cannot give a section or it's columns a border. It's not in the 
spec.

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a. attach the example again
b. explain briefly how to search in the archive so that I can find it (and
other things) for myself. 

Thank you!
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Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-05 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:02 05/06/2008 +0200, Sander Marechal wrote:
But what if the text doesn't span the entire page? Then the bottom 
border will only be half-way down. What I'm looking for is making a 
border around the entire central text area (i.e. the block between 
the header and the footer), regardless of how much text is on a page.


One workaround may be to insert a one-column, one-row table into your 
document.  You can give this table a border.  Next insert your text 
material.  Then drag the bottom of the table border on one page to 
the bottom of the text area.  The other pages should follow suit.


Example attached.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker  

page-style (enhanced).odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text


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Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-05 Thread Sander Marechal

Michele wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know how I can set the border on the page-text-area in a Writer
document? I can't find the option to do that.



Format > Paragraph > Border you can create a border around each paragraph.
Keeping the "Merge with next paragraph" checked will create a border around
all the text.
Tip: if you want the border to be drawn always, add it to the Default
paragraph style

Or did I misunderstand?


But what if the text doesn't span the entire page? Then the bottom 
border will only be half-way down. What I'm looking for is making a 
border around the entire central text area (i.e. the block between the 
header and the footer), regardless of how much text is on a page.


I've also looked at adding a border to the columns (because the central 
area is really just a single text column) but that didn't work either.


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Re: [users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-05 Thread Michele
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know how I can set the border on the page-text-area in a Writer
> document? I can't find the option to do that.


Format > Paragraph > Border you can create a border around each paragraph.
Keeping the "Merge with next paragraph" checked will create a border around
all the text.
Tip: if you want the border to be drawn always, add it to the Default
paragraph style

Or did I misunderstand?

Cheers,

Michele


[users] Page-styles: How to set borders on page-text-area

2008-06-05 Thread Sander Marechal

Hello,

Does anyone know how I can set the border on the page-text-area in a 
Writer document? I can't find the option to do that.


Please see the attached example document. The purple border is the one I 
set on the "border" tab on the page-style configuration screen. The blue 
and red borders are set on the header and footer by clicking "more" on 
the header/footer tabs on the page-style screen. But how can I set the 
border of the center "page-text-area"?


Kind regards,

--
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page-style.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text
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Re: [users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-20 Thread GR
Michele wrote:
> [snip]
>   
>> How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
>> without introducing unwanted blank pages ?
>>
>> this is just a guess: could it be that the original word document
>> already includes a page break? Normally page breaks are *very* hard to
>> detect in OOo (just a thin blue line in the top tex area.
>> This could explain the additional page (?)
>> If this is the case, check for an additional page break also at the
>> end of page 2/beginning of page 3.
>> 
I couldn't see any..

> Also, in order to revert to portrait in page 3, you can set up the
> landscape page style to be followed by a default page style (next
> style field in the organizer page of the page style dialog). Normally
> this would be a stupid idea, but for the particular document you have
> it does the trick.
>
>   
That appeared to do the trick for now.

Thanks,

GTG

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Re: [users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-20 Thread Michele
[snip]
> How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
> without introducing unwanted blank pages ?
>
Hello,

this is just a guess: could it be that the original word document
already includes a page break? Normally page breaks are *very* hard to
detect in OOo (just a thin blue line in the top tex area.
This could explain the additional page (?)
If this is the case, check for an additional page break also at the
end of page 2/beginning of page 3.

Also, in order to revert to portrait in page 3, you can set up the
landscape page style to be followed by a default page style (next
style field in the organizer page of the page style dialog). Normally
this would be a stupid idea, but for the particular document you have
it does the trick.

Cheers,

Michele

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Re: [users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-19 Thread Naomi Kramer

Want to send me your document? I'm not sure what you're doing wrong.

- Naomi

GR wrote:

Dan wrote:
  

On Tuesday 19 February 2008 16:52:45 GR wrote:
  


I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3

I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
portrait, page two is supposed to be landscape, and pages three and four
are supposed to be portrait.

Page one imports fine as portrait.

Page two (by default) comes in as portrait.

When I change page two's style to landscape, pages three and four also
switch to landscape.

If I try and change pages three and four to portrait, page two changes
back to portrait.

I've read the help about changing page styles, and it talks about
putting in manual page breaks. Fair enough. But if I do this, I end up
with blank pages in my document. (i.e. my four page document becomes six
pages)

How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
without introducing unwanted blank pages ?

  
What you need to do is to create a page style for landscape. Click on page 
1, and make sure it has the Default page style. (It is portrait.) Click at 
the bottom of page one, and insert a Manual break.

Insert > Manual break. Select Page break, and in the Styles dropdown list
select the landscape page style you created. At the bottom of page 2, insert 
another Manual break.This time select Default as the next page style.


  


Yes, I know that - but it won't work for imported documents as I get
unwanted blank pages ! Please re-read my original e-mail.

GR

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[users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-19 Thread Gordon Ross
I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3

I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
portrait, page two is supposed to be landscape, and pages three and four
are supposed to be portrait.

Page one imports fine as portrait.

Page two (by default) comes in as portrait.

When I change page two's style to landscape, pages three and four also
switch to landscape.

If I try and change pages three and four to portrait, page two changes
back to portrait.

I've read the help about changing page styles, and it talks about
putting in manual page breaks. Fair enough. But if I do this, I end up
with blank pages in my document. (i.e. my four page document becomes six
pages)

How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
without introducing unwanted blank pages ?

Thanks,

GR




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Re: [users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-19 Thread GR
Dan wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 February 2008 16:52:45 GR wrote:
>   
>> I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3
>>
>> I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
>> portrait, page two is supposed to be landscape, and pages three and four
>> are supposed to be portrait.
>>
>> Page one imports fine as portrait.
>>
>> Page two (by default) comes in as portrait.
>>
>> When I change page two's style to landscape, pages three and four also
>> switch to landscape.
>>
>> If I try and change pages three and four to portrait, page two changes
>> back to portrait.
>>
>> I've read the help about changing page styles, and it talks about
>> putting in manual page breaks. Fair enough. But if I do this, I end up
>> with blank pages in my document. (i.e. my four page document becomes six
>> pages)
>>
>> How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
>> without introducing unwanted blank pages ?
>> 
>
> What you need to do is to create a page style for landscape. Click on 
> page 
> 1, and make sure it has the Default page style. (It is portrait.) Click at 
> the bottom of page one, and insert a Manual break.
> Insert > Manual break. Select Page break, and in the Styles dropdown list
> select the landscape page style you created. At the bottom of page 2, insert 
> another Manual break.This time select Default as the next page style.
>
>   
Yes, I know that - but it won't work for imported documents as I get
unwanted blank pages ! Please re-read my original e-mail.

GR

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Re: [users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-19 Thread Dan
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 16:52:45 GR wrote:
> I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3
>
> I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
> portrait, page two is supposed to be landscape, and pages three and four
> are supposed to be portrait.
>
> Page one imports fine as portrait.
>
> Page two (by default) comes in as portrait.
>
> When I change page two's style to landscape, pages three and four also
> switch to landscape.
>
> If I try and change pages three and four to portrait, page two changes
> back to portrait.
>
> I've read the help about changing page styles, and it talks about
> putting in manual page breaks. Fair enough. But if I do this, I end up
> with blank pages in my document. (i.e. my four page document becomes six
> pages)
>
> How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
> without introducing unwanted blank pages ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> GR

What you need to do is to create a page style for landscape. Click on page 
1, and make sure it has the Default page style. (It is portrait.) Click at 
the bottom of page one, and insert a Manual break.
Insert > Manual break. Select Page break, and in the Styles dropdown list
select the landscape page style you created. At the bottom of page 2, insert 
another Manual break.This time select Default as the next page style.

Dan

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[users] Page Styles and Imported Word Document

2008-02-19 Thread GR
I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3

I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
portrait, page two is supposed to be landscape, and pages three and four
are supposed to be portrait.

Page one imports fine as portrait.

Page two (by default) comes in as portrait.

When I change page two's style to landscape, pages three and four also
switch to landscape.

If I try and change pages three and four to portrait, page two changes
back to portrait.

I've read the help about changing page styles, and it talks about
putting in manual page breaks. Fair enough. But if I do this, I end up
with blank pages in my document. (i.e. my four page document becomes six
pages)

How can I change one pages style without affecting any other page AND
without introducing unwanted blank pages ?

Thanks,

GR






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Re: [users] Page Styles, Page Numbering, and Duplication of Effort

2008-02-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 20:34 17/02/2008 -0800, Scott Meyers wrote:
The only thing I can think to do is duplicate the four existing page 
styles (manually, field by field -- unless somebody knows of a way 
to copy page styles) ...


Unless I misunderstand your need, there is a simple way to copy page styles:
o  In the Styles and Formatting window, click the Page Styles button.
o  Click somewhere in your document with the relevant page style.
o  Click the "New Style from Selection" button (at the far right) and 
choose "New Style from Selection" from the drop-down menu.

o  Give the new style a name and click OK.
o  Right-click the new style name in the Styles and Formatting 
window, and then Modify... from the context menu.

o  Make any required changes.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Page Styles, Page Numbering, and Duplication of Effort

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Meyers
I'm setting up page styles for a book.  I've set up left pages, right pages, 
left chapter openers, and right chapter openers.  All use arabic page numbering. 
 I want to use the same styles for the front matter, except I want those pages 
to use roman numbering.  I'd like to link the roman-numbered pages to their 
arabic counterparts, but linking does not seem to be available for page styles.


The only thing I can think to do is duplicate the four existing page styles 
(manually, field by field -- unless somebody knows of a way to copy page styles) 
and then change the numbering attribute in the new page styles.  This seems, um, 
gross.  Isn't there a way to switch from roman to arabic numbering after the 
front matter without duplicating all the page styles?


Thanks,

Scott


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Re: [users] Page styles in OpenOffice.org, and Word

2007-10-29 Thread Hagar de l'Est

You've to use the manual page breaks which are converted into section breaks 
when exported in .doc. See here : 
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=52118

Hagar

Le 29.10.2007 21:21, Solveig L Haugland a écrit :


Hi,

I've been experimenting with file conversions and have found that, since 
Word doesn't have page styles per se, that one can't save page styles in 
a .doc format document. This means if you create a Writer document, use 
page styles, and save it in .doc format, the page style and the 
corresponding formatting go away when you close and re-open the file.


Given the dependency of OOo Writer on page styles to do anything at all 
interesting with layout, this seems like a bit of a problem for those 
wanting to stick with .doc format in order to work with those using MS 
Office. No documents with different orientations on different pages, no 
documents with different headers/footers, etc. are possible with this 
issue. I've also noticed that, whether one is using page styles or not, 
background graphics disappear under the same circumstances.


Is there a workaround, a plan in place to create page styles based on 
the formatting in a .doc file, or is there something I'm missing?


Thanks,
Solveig
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2007-10-29 Thread Solveig L Haugland

Hi,

I've been experimenting with file conversions and have found that, since 
Word doesn't have page styles per se, that one can't save page styles in 
a .doc format document. This means if you create a Writer document, use 
page styles, and save it in .doc format, the page style and the 
corresponding formatting go away when you close and re-open the file.


Given the dependency of OOo Writer on page styles to do anything at all 
interesting with layout, this seems like a bit of a problem for those 
wanting to stick with .doc format in order to work with those using MS 
Office. No documents with different orientations on different pages, no 
documents with different headers/footers, etc. are possible with this 
issue. I've also noticed that, whether one is using page styles or not, 
background graphics disappear under the same circumstances.


Is there a workaround, a plan in place to create page styles based on 
the formatting in a .doc file, or is there something I'm missing?


Thanks,
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Re: [users] Page styles! Help!

2007-10-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
Dang! Now I can't even delete the break that I entered!


On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:55:27 -0700
John Jason Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dijo:

> I have a problem with a paper that is due tomorrow. There is a table
> that starts after the first paragraph on the first page and spans to
> the end of page 3. I need to set the page style for the first page to
> First Page so it won't have a page number. All the remaining pages need
> a page number in a header. I believe the way you are supposed to do
> this is to enter a break at the end of the first page, and in the
> Insert Break dialog box stipulate the style for the next page. That
> would be fne, but how can I insert a break when the table spans the
> first three pages? I put the cursor in the last cell on page 1, did
> Insert > Manual Break (stipulating the style for the following pages)
> and it happily inserted a break, but it inserted it at the beginning of
> the table. So now I have one lone paragraph at the top of page 1, and
> the table starts at the top of page 2 and ends in the middle of page 4.
> 
> The only way to get the table properly formatted is to delete the
> break. Can someone tell me how to set no page number on the first page
> without entering a break at the end of the first page?
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2007-10-10 Thread John Jason Jordan
I have a problem with a paper that is due tomorrow. There is a table
that starts after the first paragraph on the first page and spans to
the end of page 3. I need to set the page style for the first page to
First Page so it won't have a page number. All the remaining pages need
a page number in a header. I believe the way you are supposed to do
this is to enter a break at the end of the first page, and in the
Insert Break dialog box stipulate the style for the next page. That
would be fne, but how can I insert a break when the table spans the
first three pages? I put the cursor in the last cell on page 1, did
Insert > Manual Break (stipulating the style for the following pages)
and it happily inserted a break, but it inserted it at the beginning of
the table. So now I have one lone paragraph at the top of page 1, and
the table starts at the top of page 2 and ends in the middle of page 4.

The only way to get the table properly formatted is to delete the
break. Can someone tell me how to set no page number on the first page
without entering a break at the end of the first page?

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Cor Nouws

Ross Johnson wrote:

[...] 
Ideally, I would not expect this implied page break to be attached to 
the first paragraph of the current page, since then it should stay with 
that paragraph, which is not what I would like. Presumably there is a 
notion of a page in OOo that is related to the physical printed page, 
which is independent of the text (represented as paragraphs). That is 
what I would like to change when I change the page style, and is what I 
intuitively think of when I see Page Style.




That's why the automatic sequence (a page style has a property that 
determines the style of the next page) is so handy.


Cor


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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Cor Nouws

Ross Johnson wrote:



In the interests of correctness, that should be (changes in *here*):-

It seems that manual page breaks are controlled entirely through 
paragraph attributes. The Insert->Break->Page (with style) sets the 
Break, Next Page Style and Break Before text flow attributes of the 
first paragraph on the *new* page. Ctrl+Enter on the other hand only 
sets the Break and Break Before attributes, and the Next Page attribute 
is not assigned, which tells OOo to derive the page style from the most 
recent (in document order) paragraph that has Next Page style set. It 
appears that, when you are changing the page style via the stylist or 
Status bar, you are changing the Next Style text flow attribute of the 
most recent (in document order) paragraph that has the *Next Style* 
attribute set, which may be several pages back in the document, or the 
very first paragraph in the document if no *Next Style text flow 
attribute* has been *set*.





That's correct, Ross. Thanks.
In my test I made a page break with Ctrl-Enter and after that applied 
the Format|Paragraph|Text flow  attribute.


Greetings,
Cor

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Ross Johnson

Ross Johnson wrote:



So, confirming what Cor said:
It seems that manual page breaks are controlled entirely through 
paragraph attributes. The Insert->Break->Page (with style) sets the 
Break, Next Page Style and Break Before text flow attributes of the 
first paragraph on the current page. Ctrl+Enter on the other hand only 
sets the Break and Break Before attributes, and the Next Page 
attribute is not assigned, which tells OOo to derive the page style 
from the most recent (in document order) paragraph that has Next Page 
style set. It appears that, when you are changing the page style via 
the stylist or Status bar, you are changing the Next Style text flow 
attribute of the most recent (in document order) paragraph that has 
the Break attribute set, which may be several pages back in the 
document, or the very first paragraph in the document if no manual 
break has been inserted.


In the interests of correctness, that should be (changes in *here*):-

It seems that manual page breaks are controlled entirely through 
paragraph attributes. The Insert->Break->Page (with style) sets the 
Break, Next Page Style and Break Before text flow attributes of the 
first paragraph on the *new* page. Ctrl+Enter on the other hand only 
sets the Break and Break Before attributes, and the Next Page attribute 
is not assigned, which tells OOo to derive the page style from the most 
recent (in document order) paragraph that has Next Page style set. It 
appears that, when you are changing the page style via the stylist or 
Status bar, you are changing the Next Style text flow attribute of the 
most recent (in document order) paragraph that has the *Next Style* 
attribute set, which may be several pages back in the document, or the 
very first paragraph in the document if no *Next Style text flow 
attribute* has been *set*.


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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Ross Johnson

Cor Nouws wrote:


Johnny Andersson wrote:


Den 2006-05-20 17:18:59 skrev Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Johnny Andersson wrote:

Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor 
somewhere  in  it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that  
"Standard"  is selected.



Hi Johnny,

Clicking on a page style in the stylist allways applies it to the 
first  page of the document. I've never seen it different in OOo.


The styles of the following pages, depend on either:
- what is defined as nex page style (Stylist, rightclick on page 
style,  Change, tab Manage), or

- on what is set with manual breaks (Insert|Break ...) or
- on what is set in the format of the paragraph on top of a page  
(Format|Paragraph|Text flow )


HTH & Greetings,
Cor



Am I the only one who wants it to work the way I describet? That is, 
that  clicking on a page style should change the style on the current 
page, just  like clicking a paragraph style changes the of the 
current paragraph. I  can't see the advantages by changing the style 
of the FIRST page instead  of the CURRENT page, when double clicking 
a style.


Well, I would like it to change only the current ("physical") page, or 
have the GUI changed to make it clear that I am changing the whole 
document, or section, or something.


I've re-studied the subject, in order to react properly to your 
questions. Thus I found out, that I was wrong in the idea that 
clicking applies the page style to the fist page of the document.
It turns out to be a little more complicated (I'm working in 2.0.3 RC1 
currently).
Double clicking on a page style in the Stylist applies that page style 
to the first page after the break where the section starts in which 
the cursor is.
So if there is no break set (Ctrl-Enter / Insert|Break / 
Format|Paragraph|Text flow ...) the page style will apply to the first 
page of the document.


I don't think this is what happens in OOo2.0.2, checking ... yes, it is 
slightly different:-
1) start new document - type ctrl+Enter to add a page break (no text 
typed yet) - place cursor in first page then double-click in stylist to 
change the first page to First Page style - place cursor in second page 
then double-click in stylist to change page to (something really 
different) an Envelope. Result is that both pages 1 & 2 change to Envelope.

2) as for 1 except using the Status bar Page Style box is the same as 1).
3) starting again with a new document and adding a second new page using 
the Insert Break dialog and setting the style there doesn't change the 
first page. Now, changing this second page to a different page style by 
double clicking in stylist or via the Status bar Page Style box changes 
only the second page. However, adding a third page using ctrl+Enter and 
then changing the third page style changes pages 2 & 3, but still leaves 
page 1 alone.


So, confirming what Cor said:
It seems that manual page breaks are controlled entirely through 
paragraph attributes. The Insert->Break->Page (with style) sets the 
Break, Next Page Style and Break Before text flow attributes of the 
first paragraph on the current page. Ctrl+Enter on the other hand only 
sets the Break and Break Before attributes, and the Next Page attribute 
is not assigned, which tells OOo to derive the page style from the most 
recent (in document order) paragraph that has Next Page style set. It 
appears that, when you are changing the page style via the stylist or 
Status bar, you are changing the Next Style text flow attribute of the 
most recent (in document order) paragraph that has the Break attribute 
set, which may be several pages back in the document, or the very first 
paragraph in the document if no manual break has been inserted.




Another feature found: right clicking on the name of the page style in 
the status bar, give a context menu from which other page styles can 
be selected.


So two possibilities:

a) the Help file is incorrect / not clear enough (which is the same 
for a Help file ;-) )


b) the function doesn't work as it should, in this sense, that 
applying a different page style (by double clicking in the Stylist or 
by the context menu of the page style on the status bar) should ad a 
break to the first paragraph of the current page, so that indeed only 
the current page is affected.


Ideally, I would not expect this implied page break to be attached to 
the first paragraph of the current page, since then it should stay with 
that paragraph, which is not what I would like. Presumably there is a 
notion of a page in OOo that is related to the physical printed page, 
which is independent of the text (represented as paragraphs). That is 
what I would like to change when I change the page style, and is what I 
intuitively think of when I see Page Style.


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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Cor Nouws

Johnny Andersson wrote:


Den 2006-05-20 17:18:59 skrev Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Johnny Andersson wrote:

Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor 
somewhere  in  it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that  
"Standard"  is selected.


Hi Johnny,

Clicking on a page style in the stylist allways applies it to the 
first  page of the document. I've never seen it different in OOo.


The styles of the following pages, depend on either:
- what is defined as nex page style (Stylist, rightclick on page 
style,  Change, tab Manage), or

- on what is set with manual breaks (Insert|Break ...) or
- on what is set in the format of the paragraph on top of a page  
(Format|Paragraph|Text flow )


HTH & Greetings,
Cor



Am I the only one who wants it to work the way I describet? That is, 
that  clicking on a page style should change the style on the current 
page, just  like clicking a paragraph style changes the of the current 
paragraph. I  can't see the advantages by changing the style of the 
FIRST page instead  of the CURRENT page, when double clicking a style.


I've re-studied the subject, in order to react properly to your 
questions. Thus I found out, that I was wrong in the idea that clicking 
applies the page style to the fist page of the document.
It turns out to be a little more complicated (I'm working in 2.0.3 RC1 
currently).
Double clicking on a page style in the Stylist applies that page style 
to the first page after the break where the section starts in which the 
cursor is.
So if there is no break set (Ctrl-Enter / Insert|Break / 
Format|Paragraph|Text flow ...) the page style will apply to the first 
page of the document.


Another feature found: right clicking on the name of the page style in 
the status bar, give a context menu from which other page styles can be 
selected.


So two possibilities:

a) the Help file is incorrect / not clear enough (which is the same for 
a Help file ;-) )


b) the function doesn't work as it should, in this sense, that applying 
a different page style (by double clicking in the Stylist or by the 
context menu of the page style on the status bar) should ad a break to 
the first paragraph of the current page, so that indeed only the current 
page is affected.





Do you think it would be a good idea to file a request with Issuezilla, 
or  would the response be be that only I want this feature?


Pls do, it's definitely one of the mentioned defects
Probably there's an issue for it already, but if you cannot find it, 
others, more at home in issuetracker, will mark that.


Greetings,
Cor

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-21 Thread Johnny Andersson

Den 2006-05-20 17:18:59 skrev Cor Nouws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Johnny Andersson wrote:

Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor somewhere  
in  it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that  
"Standard"  is selected.

Hi Johnny,

Clicking on a page style in the stylist allways applies it to the first  
page of the document. I've never seen it different in OOo.


The styles of the following pages, depend on either:
- what is defined as nex page style (Stylist, rightclick on page style,  
Change, tab Manage), or

- on what is set with manual breaks (Insert|Break ...) or
- on what is set in the format of the paragraph on top of a page  
(Format|Paragraph|Text flow )


HTH & Greetings,
Cor



Am I the only one who wants it to work the way I describet? That is, that  
clicking on a page style should change the style on the current page, just  
like clicking a paragraph style changes the of the current paragraph. I  
can't see the advantages by changing the style of the FIRST page instead  
of the CURRENT page, when double clicking a style.


Do you think it would be a good idea to file a request with Issuezilla, or  
would the response be be that only I want this feature?

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-20 Thread Cor Nouws

Johnny Andersson wrote:

Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor somewhere 
in  it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that 
"Standard"  is selected.

Hi Johnny,

Clicking on a page style in the stylist allways applies it to the first 
page of the document. I've never seen it different in OOo.


The styles of the following pages, depend on either:
- what is defined as nex page style (Stylist, rightclick on page style, 
Change, tab Manage), or

- on what is set with manual breaks (Insert|Break ...) or
- on what is set in the format of the paragraph on top of a page 
(Format|Paragraph|Text flow )


HTH & Greetings,
Cor

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-15 Thread Ross Johnson

Johnny Andersson wrote:

Thanks for your reply. It didn't help me in THIS case, but I learned  
something new, at least. I tried it, but all it did was that everytime 
I  press Enter, there is a page break, and I don't want that to 
happen. Many  of my paragraphs are just a few lines and it wouldn't 
look good with a  page break after each one of them, and it would be 
expensive to print it  out...


I will try to explain better what I am looking for:

I want different page styles for different pages, here is a faked 
example:


Page 1: First Page
Page 2: Table of contents
Page 3: Right page
Page 4: Left page
Page 5: Right page
Page 6: Landscape
Page 7: Landscape

All the seven pages are already written, and they contain mostly text, 
but  some pictures and graphics are included. The landscape pages 
includes text  and a big (wide) table, and tables are also included in 
some of the pages  3-5.


Now, when everything is already written, I want to create the page 
styles.  Some of them are standard page styles, and some of them I 
have to create  myself. So I create them and now I want to apply them 
on my existing  pages. So I place the cursor somewhere at page 1. The 
stylist is already  open and I click the page styles button (I am not 
sure if it's called page  styles in English, in my Swedish version 
it's called "Sidformatmallar"  which is "Page Format Templates" if I 
translate it directly). However, now  I can see all my page styles. 
So, with my cursor placed at page 1, I  double click a style called 
"First Page". This works great.
Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor 
somewhere in  it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that 
"Standard"  is selected.
"Well", I think, "maybe it's something with tables of contents, I'll 
deal  with that later"...
So now, I place the cursor somewhere in the text of page 3, I then 
double  click the style "Right page". That style is created so that 
next page will  be "Left page", so now page 4 use the style "Left 
page". The problem is  that also page 2 use that style!


I might have come to something that reminds of a explanation: When I 
do a  page break, I press Ctrl+Enter. Maybe I should use the Manual 
Break dialog  instead?


Or maybe I just can't wait until everything is already written, to 
assign  a page style to a page? I am not quite sure what is going on, 
anyway, and  Help doesn't give me much help either...


When I tried this, yesterday, I also tried to make a landscape page 
style,  but it failed. It was still in portrait mode, but I KNOW this 
will work,  because I have done it before, only a few weeks ago. The 
question is what  I did THEN, that I don't do NOW...


Hmmm. I agree with Johnny. Something is very wrong here. I just tried 
playing with page styles, e.g. I set the first page to "First Page", 
then I put the cursor in the second page and set it to something other 
than default (e.g. Right page style), and the first page got changed as 
well. Like Johnny, I'm sure this didn't happen before. I'm sure it 
should only change the page that the cursor is in. Instead, it appears 
to be applying page styles from the beginning of the document, which 
then sets up a ripple through the whole document applying the Next Page 
style attribute to subsequent pages.


Applying a manual break via the menu and setting the next page style in 
that dialog does work but does not solve the problem. Trying to change 
the page style at some later time presents the same behaviour as before.


This is in OOo 2.0.2.

Ross


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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-15 Thread Johnny Andersson

Den 2006-05-15 16:44:04 skrev Johnny Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Den 2006-05-14 16:19:41 skrev G. Roderick Singleton  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 15:28 +0200, Johnny Andersson wrote:

I don't know, suddenly it does not just work...

I tried page styles a while ago and it worked just like expected, but  
now

I try to set different styles when I already wrote 6 pages.

The first page is just one line and a gif. Page 2 is a table of  
contents

(using the proper tools for it).
The actual text starts at page 3 and starting with that page I want  
pages
to be numbered. Odd pages should have their page number on the right  
side

of the footer, even pages on the left side.

I managed to set a style for page 1, it's called First page and it is a
preset style.
I want another style for page 2, so I place the cursor somewhere in  
that

page and select another style.
When I move my cursor to another page and get back again, the stylist  
says
that the selected page style is Standard! So how do I actually change  
the

page styles? And why could I do it with the first page and not with the
others? Do I have to select page style before writing something on  
them?


Maybe it's just Windows 98 that's performing a practical joke on me as
usual, maybe I should just restart my PC and try again...






Not certain what you are doing. However you can use the Text Flow tab of
any paragraph style to set new styles on a page break.


Thanks for your reply. It didn't help me in THIS case, but I learned  
something new, at least. I tried it, but all it did was that everytime I  
press Enter, there is a page break, and I don't want that to happen.  
Many of my paragraphs are just a few lines and it wouldn't look good  
with a page break after each one of them, and it would be expensive to  
print it out...


I will try to explain better what I am looking for:

I want different page styles for different pages, here is a faked  
example:


Page 1: First Page
Page 2: Table of contents
Page 3: Right page
Page 4: Left page
Page 5: Right page
Page 6: Landscape
Page 7: Landscape

All the seven pages are already written, and they contain mostly text,  
but some pictures and graphics are included. The landscape pages  
includes text and a big (wide) table, and tables are also included in  
some of the pages 3-5.


Now, when everything is already written, I want to create the page  
styles. Some of them are standard page styles, and some of them I have  
to create myself. So I create them and now I want to apply them on my  
existing pages. So I place the cursor somewhere at page 1. The stylist  
is already open and I click the page styles button (I am not sure if  
it's called page styles in English, in my Swedish version it's called  
"Sidformatmallar" which is "Page Format Templates" if I translate it  
directly). However, now I can see all my page styles. So, with my cursor  
placed at page 1, I double click a style called "First Page". This works  
great.
Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor somewhere  
in it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that  
"Standard" is selected.
"Well", I think, "maybe it's something with tables of contents, I'll  
deal with that later"...
So now, I place the cursor somewhere in the text of page 3, I then  
double click the style "Right page". That style is created so that next  
page will be "Left page", so now page 4 use the style "Left page". The  
problem is that also page 2 use that style!


I might have come to something that reminds of a explanation: When I do  
a page break, I press Ctrl+Enter. Maybe I should use the Manual Break  
dialog instead?


Or maybe I just can't wait until everything is already written, to  
assign a page style to a page? I am not quite sure what is going on,  
anyway, and Help doesn't give me much help either...


When I tried this, yesterday, I also tried to make a landscape page  
style, but it failed. It was still in portrait mode, but I KNOW this  
will work, because I have done it before, only a few weeks ago. The  
question is what I did THEN, that I don't do NOW...




I tried again now, and here is a funny thing:
I made it work somewhat better now, when I changed the "next style"  
setting of the page styles:

First Page -> Table of contents
Table of contents -> Right page
Right page -> Left page
Left page -> Right page

However, now I tried to set page 6 to the Landscape page style. What do  
you think happened? I have tried this several times now, same result every  
time: Page 1 () turns to Landscape, all other pages are unaffected...  
(except that things on page 1 moves to page 2 since there is not room  
enough for it on a landscape page. Obviously I am doing something VERY  
wrong here, but what?


I noticed that I got more replies on this one, maybe I should have them  
checked out before writing this, we'll see...


Thanks fo

Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-15 Thread Dan Lewis
On Monday May 15 2006 09:44 am, Johnny Andersson wrote:
> Den 2006-05-14 16:19:41 skrev G. Roderick Singleton
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 15:28 +0200, Johnny Andersson wrote:
> >> I don't know, suddenly it does not just work...
> >>
> >> I tried page styles a while ago and it worked just like expected, but
> >> now
> >> I try to set different styles when I already wrote 6 pages.
> >>
> >> The first page is just one line and a gif. Page 2 is a table of
> >> contents (using the proper tools for it).
> >> The actual text starts at page 3 and starting with that page I want
> >> pages
> >> to be numbered. Odd pages should have their page number on the right
> >> side
> >> of the footer, even pages on the left side.
> >>
> >> I managed to set a style for page 1, it's called First page and it is
> >> a preset style.
> >> I want another style for page 2, so I place the cursor somewhere in
> >> that page and select another style.
> >> When I move my cursor to another page and get back again, the stylist
> >> says
> >> that the selected page style is Standard! So how do I actually change
> >> the
> >> page styles? And why could I do it with the first page and not with
> >> the others? Do I have to select page style before writing something
> >> on them?
> >>
> >> Maybe it's just Windows 98 that's performing a practical joke on me
> >> as usual, maybe I should just restart my PC and try again...
> >
> > Not certain what you are doing. However you can use the Text Flow tab
> > of any paragraph style to set new styles on a page break.
>
> Thanks for your reply. It didn't help me in THIS case, but I learned
> something new, at least. I tried it, but all it did was that everytime I
> press Enter, there is a page break, and I don't want that to happen.
> Many of my paragraphs are just a few lines and it wouldn't look good
> with a page break after each one of them, and it would be expensive to
> print it out...
>
> I will try to explain better what I am looking for:
>
> I want different page styles for different pages, here is a faked
> example:
>
> Page 1: First Page
> Page 2: Table of contents
> Page 3: Right page
> Page 4: Left page
> Page 5: Right page
> Page 6: Landscape
> Page 7: Landscape
>
> All the seven pages are already written, and they contain mostly text,
> but some pictures and graphics are included. The landscape pages
> includes text and a big (wide) table, and tables are also included in
> some of the pages 3-5.
>
> Now, when everything is already written, I want to create the page
> styles. Some of them are standard page styles, and some of them I have
> to create myself. So I create them and now I want to apply them on my
> existing pages. So I place the cursor somewhere at page 1. The stylist
> is already open and I click the page styles button (I am not sure if
> it's called page styles in English, in my Swedish version it's called
> "Sidformatmallar" which is "Page Format Templates" if I translate it
> directly). However, now I can see all my page styles. So, with my cursor
> placed at page 1, I double click a style called "First Page". This works
> great.
> Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor somewhere
> in it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
> Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that
> "Standard" is selected.
> "Well", I think, "maybe it's something with tables of contents, I'll
> deal with that later"...
> So now, I place the cursor somewhere in the text of page 3, I then
> double click the style "Right page". That style is created so that next
> page will be "Left page", so now page 4 use the style "Left page". The
> problem is that also page 2 use that style!
>
> I might have come to something that reminds of a explanation: When I do
> a page break, I press Ctrl+Enter. Maybe I should use the Manual Break
> dialog instead?
>
> Or maybe I just can't wait until everything is already written, to
> assign a page style to a page? I am not quite sure what is going on,
> anyway, and Help doesn't give me much help either...
>
> When I tried this, yesterday, I also tried to make a landscape page
> style, but it failed. It was still in portrait mode, but I KNOW this
> will work, because I have done it before, only a few weeks ago. The
> question is what I did THEN, that I don't do NOW...
>
>
> Best regards

 Have you downloaded the chapter on styles in the Getting Started 
Guide? There is also a chapter on Styles in the Writer Guide. Both are 
available at 
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html. If you 
have the complete User's Guide from 
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/, you should also find 
information about styles in it.

Dan

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Re: [users] Page styles...

2006-05-15 Thread Johnny Andersson
Den 2006-05-14 16:19:41 skrev G. Roderick Singleton  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



On Sun, 2006-05-14 at 15:28 +0200, Johnny Andersson wrote:

I don't know, suddenly it does not just work...

I tried page styles a while ago and it worked just like expected, but  
now

I try to set different styles when I already wrote 6 pages.

The first page is just one line and a gif. Page 2 is a table of contents
(using the proper tools for it).
The actual text starts at page 3 and starting with that page I want  
pages
to be numbered. Odd pages should have their page number on the right  
side

of the footer, even pages on the left side.

I managed to set a style for page 1, it's called First page and it is a
preset style.
I want another style for page 2, so I place the cursor somewhere in that
page and select another style.
When I move my cursor to another page and get back again, the stylist  
says
that the selected page style is Standard! So how do I actually change  
the

page styles? And why could I do it with the first page and not with the
others? Do I have to select page style before writing something on them?

Maybe it's just Windows 98 that's performing a practical joke on me as
usual, maybe I should just restart my PC and try again...






Not certain what you are doing. However you can use the Text Flow tab of
any paragraph style to set new styles on a page break.


Thanks for your reply. It didn't help me in THIS case, but I learned  
something new, at least. I tried it, but all it did was that everytime I  
press Enter, there is a page break, and I don't want that to happen. Many  
of my paragraphs are just a few lines and it wouldn't look good with a  
page break after each one of them, and it would be expensive to print it  
out...


I will try to explain better what I am looking for:

I want different page styles for different pages, here is a faked example:

Page 1: First Page
Page 2: Table of contents
Page 3: Right page
Page 4: Left page
Page 5: Right page
Page 6: Landscape
Page 7: Landscape

All the seven pages are already written, and they contain mostly text, but  
some pictures and graphics are included. The landscape pages includes text  
and a big (wide) table, and tables are also included in some of the pages  
3-5.


Now, when everything is already written, I want to create the page styles.  
Some of them are standard page styles, and some of them I have to create  
myself. So I create them and now I want to apply them on my existing  
pages. So I place the cursor somewhere at page 1. The stylist is already  
open and I click the page styles button (I am not sure if it's called page  
styles in English, in my Swedish version it's called "Sidformatmallar"  
which is "Page Format Templates" if I translate it directly). However, now  
I can see all my page styles. So, with my cursor placed at page 1, I  
double click a style called "First Page". This works great.
Now, I have a table of contents at page 2. I place the cursor somewhere in  
it and double click a style called "Table of contents".
Then I click in page 2 again, but now the stylist tells me that "Standard"  
is selected.
"Well", I think, "maybe it's something with tables of contents, I'll deal  
with that later"...
So now, I place the cursor somewhere in the text of page 3, I then double  
click the style "Right page". That style is created so that next page will  
be "Left page", so now page 4 use the style "Left page". The problem is  
that also page 2 use that style!


I might have come to something that reminds of a explanation: When I do a  
page break, I press Ctrl+Enter. Maybe I should use the Manual Break dialog  
instead?


Or maybe I just can't wait until everything is already written, to assign  
a page style to a page? I am not quite sure what is going on, anyway, and  
Help doesn't give me much help either...


When I tried this, yesterday, I also tried to make a landscape page style,  
but it failed. It was still in portrait mode, but I KNOW this will work,  
because I have done it before, only a few weeks ago. The question is what  
I did THEN, that I don't do NOW...



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[users] Page styles...

2006-05-14 Thread Johnny Andersson

I don't know, suddenly it does not just work...

I tried page styles a while ago and it worked just like expected, but now  
I try to set different styles when I already wrote 6 pages.


The first page is just one line and a gif. Page 2 is a table of contents  
(using the proper tools for it).
The actual text starts at page 3 and starting with that page I want pages  
to be numbered. Odd pages should have their page number on the right side  
of the footer, even pages on the left side.


I managed to set a style for page 1, it's called First page and it is a  
preset style.
I want another style for page 2, so I place the cursor somewhere in that  
page and select another style.
When I move my cursor to another page and get back again, the stylist says  
that the selected page style is Standard! So how do I actually change the  
page styles? And why could I do it with the first page and not with the  
others? Do I have to select page style before writing something on them?


Maybe it's just Windows 98 that's performing a practical joke on me as  
usual, maybe I should just restart my PC and try again...





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Re: [users] page styles

2006-02-05 Thread James

On 1/28/2006 9:20 PM G. Roderick Singleton spoke:

On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 18:07 -0500, James wrote:
clt-enter is different than the insert manual page break menu (with a 
page style).


Yes in that Ctrl-Enter inserts a page of the same style as the current
page. No option to change styles. 


Oh, I assumed I could add a page with control enter and use the stylist 
to change the page style after. :-)


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Re: [users] page styles

2006-01-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 18:07 -0500, James wrote:
> clt-enter is different than the insert manual page break menu (with a 
> page style).

Yes in that Ctrl-Enter inserts a page of the same style as the current
page. No option to change styles. 
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Re: [users] page styles

2006-01-28 Thread James
clt-enter is different than the insert manual page break menu (with a 
page style).


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Re: [users] page styles

2006-01-22 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 16:54 -0500, James wrote:
> I set the first page to the first page style.
> The second page is the default style which I modified to be landscape.
> Unfortunately, I want the last page to be another style (I used index) 
> in portrait.
> 
> I got that working by changing the "Next Style" of a style to be the 
> style I want on the next page.
> I can't seem to set page styles for each page. :-(
> 
> The problem is that I want to insert a 3rd page of the Default style in 
> landscape and the change to portrait on the last page.
> 
> I can't figure it out. :-(
> 

James,

I take it Bob is not around or I would suggest asking him. There are
documents to help you do this and using styles is correct.

 1. May I suggest using the method outlined in

http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/OOo2.x/user_guide2_draft.pdf near 
page 70-71 for details.
 2. You might also try Help > Contents > Index > Search term >
landscape and portrait for a work
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Re: [users] page styles

2006-01-22 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:54 pm, James wrote:
> I set the first page to the first page style.
> The second page is the default style which I modified to be landscape.
> Unfortunately, I want the last page to be another style (I used index)
> in portrait.
>
> I got that working by changing the "Next Style" of a style to be the
> style I want on the next page.
> I can't seem to set page styles for each page. :-(
>
> The problem is that I want to insert a 3rd page of the Default style in
> landscape and the change to portrait on the last page.
>
> I can't figure it out. :-(
>
 Have you tried this? 
1) Right click the default page style and select New. Give it the name 
Portrait. Modify its formating to what you want for your portrait page.

2) Right click the default page style and select New. Give it the name  
Landscape. Modify its formating to what you want for your landscape page. 
Enter Portrait as the Next Style.

3) Modify First Page style so that Landscape is the Next Style. 

 What this does is format the first page in the First Page style, format 
the second page as landscape, and format the third and any following pages as 
portrait.

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[users] page styles

2006-01-22 Thread James

I set the first page to the first page style.
The second page is the default style which I modified to be landscape.
Unfortunately, I want the last page to be another style (I used index) 
in portrait.


I got that working by changing the "Next Style" of a style to be the 
style I want on the next page.

I can't seem to set page styles for each page. :-(

The problem is that I want to insert a 3rd page of the Default style in 
landscape and the change to portrait on the last page.


I can't figure it out. :-(

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