[videoblogging] Re: Semanal: completed

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Moon
I still have the final three weeks videos to post too.

It was good fun. Everyone still good to go for 2009?

Mike

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Carver
frank.car...@... wrote:

 2008/12/17 Jay dedman jay.ded...@...:
  I want to give a big shout out to everyone who stuck with
  http://semanal.org/.
  A dedicated group of folks posted a video per week for a YEAR.
 
 Yikes! is it over? I thought we had until the end of the year, and I
 still have a few weeks of videos to catch up with.
 
 I was planning to do a bunch of videos over the next week or so and
 slide them in under the bar :(
 
 Frank.





Re: [videoblogging] Re: Semanal: completed

2008-12-18 Thread David King
I don't think I'll do it for 2009, but I will still be posting video! Just
probably at my slightly slower, whenever it tickles my fancy rate.

David Lee King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
twitter | skype: davidleeking


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Mike Moon mgm...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I still have the final three weeks videos to post too.

 It was good fun. Everyone still good to go for 2009?

 Mike

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Frank Carver
 frank.car...@... wrote:
 
  2008/12/17 Jay dedman jay.ded...@...:

   I want to give a big shout out to everyone who stuck with
   http://semanal.org/.
   A dedicated group of folks posted a video per week for a YEAR.
 
  Yikes! is it over? I thought we had until the end of the year, and I
  still have a few weeks of videos to catch up with.
 
  I was planning to do a bunch of videos over the next week or so and
  slide them in under the bar :(
 
  Frank.
 

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-11 Thread Jan McLaughlin
What I like is one video / week gives me structure.

Usually post what I've got, and when I've got something, rush to get it
posted just because the immediacy is a big part of what constitutes reward
for the Faux Press.

Just doing ONE a week means perhaps I'll slow it down for quality over
quantity.

Here's hoping.

Probably not as I've got a buncha backlogged stuff from being off the grid
for 2 weeks.

That said, I'm in.

Jan

On Jan 8, 2008 8:25 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In just 6 days, 95 of us have joined the group.
 
  Most have already posted their Week 1 video :)


 I wanted to, but my actress blew me off! Twice!

 I swear, show folk...

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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-08 Thread Rupert Howe
Because it seems that I am designated pimp, another message about Semanal.

In just 6 days, 95 of us have joined the group.  

Most have already posted their Week 1 video :)  There's a lot of great
stuff to watch.

It'd be nice to make it to 100 by the end of the first week, so if you
haven't been there yet, come check us out.

http://semanal.ning.com/

It'd be great if people keep joining throughout the year - as far as
I'm concerned, it's the weekliness that's important (and the
community) not whether people happened to find out about us in week 1.  

Much of my motivation in getting involved is about promoting and
inspiring personal videoblogging, finding amazing new things to watch,
and getting wider exposure and new subscribers.

If we keep going this way, we'll have thousands of videos by the end
of the year.  Many of them intertwined, like in NaVloPoMo - that stuff
is Gold.

We have a lot of Spanish speakers and people who aren't regulars on
this list - people I didn't know before.

It'd be particularly great if we could keep getting videobloggers and
artists involved from every part of the world, speaking many different
languages.  

Do you know any videobloggers in Asia or Africa?  French speakers,
Arabic speakers?  Let's push it out there!  Get videobloggers on every
continent talking to each other in video.

We're not hardasses about defining the 'end of week 1', so don't fret
if you haven't got a video ready now.

Videos are being embedded in posts in the Ning forum as in Navlopomo
at the moment, but we're still working on an automated centralised
site and a Mefeedia solution.

I promise I won't be post often to the forum hyping Semanal - this is
just a week 1 update.

/pimp
Rupert



[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-08 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In just 6 days, 95 of us have joined the group.  
 
 Most have already posted their Week 1 video :)


I wanted to, but my actress blew me off! Twice!

I swear, show folk...

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-04 Thread miglsd27

 Its also Portuguese ;). Since theres no topic (is there?), why don´t we do 
it how ever we 
like?

 Miguel (hoping to be teased enough by SEMANAL to actually post something).

 
 ok guys
  
 I am ready for this challenge
  
 I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico
  
 is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is 
 Spanish and  
means weekly
  
 regards
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-04 Thread Bill Cammack
Very interesting ideas, Frank.  I think that would be a VAST
improvement over how comments and responses are currently handled.

--
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just let us know what you want, and we will accomadate.
 
 One thought: 
 One thing that we've always imagined is to decentralize the
 centralization. What if I was on DavidMeade.com and could see that
 Mike Moon just posted a Semanal video, clicked on that and went to
 http://vlog.mikemoon.net, etc, etc.. Then, when i commented on
 someone's vlog, this too would be something that would be syndicated
 and viewed across vlogs. Not only would this be a really cool
 decentralized tag meme, but this would also give viewers a sense of
 cohesiveness that attracts them to central sites like YouTube. IMO, it
 is the best of both worlds - i would personally be cruising across the
 vlogosphere for hours. :)
 
 Regards,
 -Frank
 
 http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
 schlomo@ wrote:
 
  I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of
 Hawaii:
   for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the
 infrastructure
  feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without
 enhancing my
  videoblogging/community experience.
  If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our
 videos and
  have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for
 the page
  to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.
  
  And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always
 leave me in
  the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put
 up my
  Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it
 will be
  my Valentine vid..
  
  
  On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling okekai@ wrote:
  
 The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia
 solution.
   Ning
   for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to
 speak
   and
   majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation
 aspects.
   It's
   less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the
 technology in
   place.
   To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
   challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
   occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode
 strikes our
   fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am
 meme-resistant
   in
   many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
   contribution.
  
   Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,
  
   Rox
  
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-04 Thread David Meade
ok so someone who speaks the language ... how is Semanal actually
pronounced? :-)  I keep wanting to say it like its similar English
word and I'm sure thats wrong.



On Jan 4, 2008 6:10 AM, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Its also Portuguese ;). Since theres no topic (is there?), why don´t we 
 do it how ever we
 like?

  Miguel (hoping to be teased enough by SEMANAL to actually post 
 something).


 
  ok guys
 
  I am ready for this challenge
 
  I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico
 
  is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is 
  Spanish and
 means weekly
 
  regards
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-04 Thread David Meade
perfect! thanks!

On Jan 4, 2008 10:45 AM, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

here you go http://blip.tv/file/577966/

blip does mp3!

Miguel.

 
  ok so someone who speaks the language ... how is Semanal actually
  pronounced? :-)  I keep wanting to say it like its similar English
  word and I'm sure thats wrong.
 
 
 
  On Jan 4, 2008 6:10 AM, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Its also Portuguese ;). Since theres no topic (is there?), why don´t 
   we do it how ever
 we
   like?
  
Miguel (hoping to be teased enough by SEMANAL to actually post 
   something).
  
  
   
ok guys
   
I am ready for this challenge
   
I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico
   
is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is 
Spanish and
   means weekly
   
regards
   
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-04 Thread miglsd27

   here you go http://blip.tv/file/577966/

   blip does mp3!

   Miguel. 


 ok so someone who speaks the language ... how is Semanal actually
 pronounced? :-)  I keep wanting to say it like its similar English
 word and I'm sure thats wrong.
 
 
 
 On Jan 4, 2008 6:10 AM, miglsd27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Its also Portuguese ;). Since theres no topic (is there?), why don´t 
  we do it how ever 
we
  like?
 
   Miguel (hoping to be teased enough by SEMANAL to actually post 
  something).
 
 
  
   ok guys
  
   I am ready for this challenge
  
   I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico
  
   is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is 
   Spanish and
  means weekly
  
   regards
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-03 Thread John Cardenas

ok guys
 
I am ready for this challenge
 
I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico
 
is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is Spanish 
and  means weekly
 
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread rudy.jahchan
I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to post more
and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I dream of
going daily). And having a common location to post is grand to. But
none of this is anything new.

So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most people  
 can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@
 wrote:
  
   Hey everybody
  
   Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
  
   Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
 the
   year.
  
   Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
   course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
  
   Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
   YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
 want.
   As long as it moves.
  
   Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
   challenge and network to be involved in.
  
   NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
 FUN :)
  
   Join us at:
   http://semanal.ning.com/
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
I know a fuller solution is being worked on - and I know I kinda
complained about this for NaVloPoMo  but please indulge my
offering some suggestions on how to post and track Semanal videos:

1) For Pete's sake I have a feed ... if, despite that, I have still
have to go to this ning site and link to my videos each time then
   a) I simply wont remember to
   b) I wont want to
   c) I defeat the purpose of RSS in the first place

I'm not sure if we're going to have a tag, but even if we don't
couldn't we just create a 'Channel' at MeFeedia containing the feeds
of participating vloggers or something?

2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
super-blog that we would all contribute to.   Does anyone think that
this might lead to comments happening there rather than the vloggers
site?  Is that something that nobody really cares about?

I'm just trying to figure out why we're reinventing the wheel as far
as how to gather up and collect videos when things like RSS and
Aggregators (not to mention web based ones like MeFeedia) have been
doing that for us for a while now.

Do we have to come up with something nuts other than these tools and
drive traffic away from the participating vloggers' sites?

- Dave

On Jan 3, 2008 12:03 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do our
 usual hyper-aggregation / tag meme thing.

 Regards,
 -Frank

 http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to post more
  and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I dream of
  going daily). And having a common location to post is grand to. But
  none of this is anything new.
 
  So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight paul.knight7@
  wrote:
  
   Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most
 people
   can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
  
  
  
  
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@
   wrote:

 Hey everybody

 Ze Nuno's had a great idea.

 Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
   the
 year.

 Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
 course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.

 Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
 YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
   want.
 As long as it moves.

 Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
 challenge and network to be involved in.

 NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
   FUN :)

 Join us at:
 http://semanal.ning.com/
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
Oh, and in regards to this not being anything new   ...  You're
killin' my buzz man!!

:-P

It doesn't have to be new ... it just has to be fun.  If it inspires
some to post more frequently than they normally might - great.  If it
inspires a lil community chit chat other than controversy and flame
wars - better. :-)

- Dave


[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Sinton
Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do our
usual hyper-aggregation / tag meme thing. 

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to post more
 and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I dream of
 going daily). And having a common location to post is grand to. But
 none of this is anything new.
 
 So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight paul.knight7@
 wrote:
 
  Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most
people  
  can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@
  wrote:
   
Hey everybody
   
Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
   
Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
  the
year.
   
Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
   
Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
  want.
As long as it moves.
   
Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
challenge and network to be involved in.
   
NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
  FUN :)
   
Join us at:
http://semanal.ning.com/
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
 super-blog that we would all contribute to.

This is an idea I'd like if it were a themed vlog, or even a
theme-of-the-week vlog.

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ?

Suddenly I'm getting a mental image of this site showing up whenever
people are Googling anal.

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most people  
 can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
 
 
Thanks for the supportive message and sense of fun there, Paul :)  

It's only half about the regularity or the difficulty of doing 52
posts in a year.

What happened with Navlopomo was that the presence of the challenge
and the central point to focus our energies resulted in a lot of
community spirit and inspiration.  Immediacy, directness, personal
connections.  People riffed off each other and found they were doing
things in ways they hadn't before.  There were lots of benefits.

And it's great to have a place where people new to vlogging can go and
sample a number of people's work all at once.  More exposure for all
of us.

As for Isn't this what vloggers do anyway - It's great that you
find it easy to do 52 posts - but of all the videobloggers I subscribe
to - around 112 - less than half post weekly.
Others like me post regularly and then don't do it for a while -
either because they get 'too busy' or because they get creatively hung
up about something.  Perhaps Semanal will help us over this hump.

Since you do it anyway, come and join in.

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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
Yay!
We're going to use a Wordpress blog with Show In A Box to collect the
videos - make it easy to post and browse and search and archive.
We'll keep Ning for discussions and ideas and other fun stuff.
The Wordpress blog is being set up by Ze Nuno right now, and it'll be
at http://semanal.org/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i'll look at this as the underlying motivating nudge.
 we can all use a lil of that.
 
 i'd like to suggest using tumblr
 http://tumblr.com/disqushttp://disqus.cominstead of ning.
 but either way, i'll follow the lead and participate to the video
pool that
 is SEMANAL.
 
 thx-
 
 sull.outputs.it
 
 On Jan 2, 2008 11:36 AM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/
 
  We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
  We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip Upload
  page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
  and keyword than at Ning.
 
   
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
Actually the more I think about this ... the more I really think we as
a community are cheating ourselves and folks like MeFeedia.

It's not like this is an event that lasts for 2 days and/or is a last
minute thing.  We have a freakin year.  ** Imagine what could be done
with that year. **

Mefeedia is more than capable of tracking and displaying these videos
for us.  They can let us comment there in one place (if we want that)
or back at the vloggers site as we please.  Further they are eager to
build out a social network and the features *we want* ... with a lil
mini-community forming around this year long and somewhat casual
experiment ... we could help them immensely with that - and thus help
ourselves.

Why don't we use MeFeedia for this (and all the while offer to them
our feedback/wish lists/suggestions for improvements/etc)?  They have
always proven to be eager to provide what the community wants, and
this seems to be right up their ally.  With a channel at mefeedia its
already all gathered up in one place automatically, we can comment on
the items there, get listings of user activity for related videos, get
recent video widgets for the channel ... all sorts of stuff.  (See
NaVloPoMo for an example: http://www.mefeedia.com/channels/navlopomo/
)

And if there some lil whiz-bang thing that MeFeedia cant provide right
now ... well we have a year ahead of us - lets use this chance to tell
them all of the things like oh this would be so much cooler if you'd
add this feature ...  I mean we can't complain about feeling like we
always have to look for ways to reinvent the wheel if we don't give
those who are trying to provide the tools we want a chance to actually
do so.

As so many have pointed out in this thread - this isn't anything
radically different than normal vlogging.  Our Feeds and Aggregators
can carry the weight, and we shouldn't need any REVOLUTIONARY
functionality to make this work here at day 1.  MeFeedia can already
provide the gathering place right now today ...  and we - in return -
can use our experience with them to tell them how to do it even better
in the near future.

Lets all go get a mefeedia account (if you for some reason don't have
one), make sure our feed is in the system (if for some reason it isn't
already).  I volunteer to create the channel at mefeedia.

Thoughts?

- Dave


On Jan 3, 2008 12:16 PM, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know a fuller solution is being worked on - and I know I kinda
 complained about this for NaVloPoMo  but please indulge my
 offering some suggestions on how to post and track Semanal videos:

 1) For Pete's sake I have a feed ... if, despite that, I have still
 have to go to this ning site and link to my videos each time then
a) I simply wont remember to
b) I wont want to
c) I defeat the purpose of RSS in the first place

 I'm not sure if we're going to have a tag, but even if we don't
 couldn't we just create a 'Channel' at MeFeedia containing the feeds
 of participating vloggers or something?

 2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
 super-blog that we would all contribute to.   Does anyone think that
 this might lead to comments happening there rather than the vloggers
 site?  Is that something that nobody really cares about?

 I'm just trying to figure out why we're reinventing the wheel as far
 as how to gather up and collect videos when things like RSS and
 Aggregators (not to mention web based ones like MeFeedia) have been
 doing that for us for a while now.

 Do we have to come up with something nuts other than these tools and
 drive traffic away from the participating vloggers' sites?

 - Dave


 On Jan 3, 2008 12:03 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do our
  usual hyper-aggregation / tag meme thing.
 
  Regards,
  -Frank
 
  http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to post more
   and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I dream of
   going daily). And having a common location to post is grand to. But
   none of this is anything new.
  
   So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight paul.knight7@
   wrote:
   
Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most
  people
can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
   
   
   
   
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@
wrote:
 
  Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, 

[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Mike Moon
Well count me in. 
But damn if I'm going to cut back to just one vlog a week for this
endeavor. I'll happily join in...as some of you folks struggle for a
vlog a week (rolling eyes).

NaVloPoYe lives

Mike
http://vlog.mikemoon.net

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey everybody
 
 Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
 Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of the
 year. 
 
 Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
 course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
 Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
 YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you want.
 As long as it moves.
 
 Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
 challenge and network to be involved in.  
 
 NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure.  And it was
FUN :)
 
 Join us at:
 http://semanal.ning.com/
 
 We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors. 
 We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip Upload
 page.  It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
 and keyword than at Ning.





[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Sinton
We'd be willing to syndicate the aggregated tag or channel to a blog,
if someone would like us to do that.

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yay!
 We're going to use a Wordpress blog with Show In A Box to collect the
 videos - make it easy to post and browse and search and archive.
 We'll keep Ning for discussions and ideas and other fun stuff.
 The Wordpress blog is being set up by Ze Nuno right now, and it'll be
 at http://semanal.org/
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote:
 
  i'll look at this as the underlying motivating nudge.
  we can all use a lil of that.
  
  i'd like to suggest using tumblr
  http://tumblr.com/disqushttp://disqus.cominstead of ning.
  but either way, i'll follow the lead and participate to the video
 pool that
  is SEMANAL.
  
  thx-
  
  sull.outputs.it
  
  On Jan 2, 2008 11:36 AM, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
  
 Hey everybody
  
   Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
  
   Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end
of the
   year.
  
   Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
   course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
  
   Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
   YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
want.
   As long as it moves.
  
   Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
   challenge and network to be involved in.
  
   NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
 FUN :)
  
   Join us at:
   http://semanal.ning.com/
  
   We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
   We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip
Upload
   page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
   and keyword than at Ning.
  

  
  
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 





[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
Dave,

I agree, the commenting thing is a minus of a centralised site.

Great points. These are important things in deciding how to set this
up.  I've been trying to consider them.

A centralised site is a useful tool for people to quickly see what's
happening within the project.  And it won't be anything like as
hassleful as posting to / checking the Ning site.

People don't have to embed videos when they post to the central blog -
they can just post a link.  

What we did a lot in Navlopomo - even using the evil Ning - was
include the post's permalink below the embedded video so that people
could click through and comment.

And each participant can individually choose to off the comments in
their posts at the Semanal.org blog if they want to further encourage
people to go through to their own blogs to comment.

And in Navlopomo we had a central page where everyone's RSS feed was
listed, so it was easy to subscribe to everyone in the group.

In summary, I agree that the idea must be to avoid taking away from
your blog - to increase traffic to it.  I'd love wherever possible to
find ways to increase exposure for individual vloggers.

R



--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I know a fuller solution is being worked on - and I know I kinda
 complained about this for NaVloPoMo  but please indulge my
 offering some suggestions on how to post and track Semanal videos:
 
 1) For Pete's sake I have a feed ... if, despite that, I have still
 have to go to this ning site and link to my videos each time then
a) I simply wont remember to
b) I wont want to
c) I defeat the purpose of RSS in the first place
 
 I'm not sure if we're going to have a tag, but even if we don't
 couldn't we just create a 'Channel' at MeFeedia containing the feeds
 of participating vloggers or something?
 
 2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
 super-blog that we would all contribute to.   Does anyone think that
 this might lead to comments happening there rather than the vloggers
 site?  Is that something that nobody really cares about?
 
 I'm just trying to figure out why we're reinventing the wheel as far
 as how to gather up and collect videos when things like RSS and
 Aggregators (not to mention web based ones like MeFeedia) have been
 doing that for us for a while now.
 
 Do we have to come up with something nuts other than these tools and
 drive traffic away from the participating vloggers' sites?
 
 - Dave
 
 On Jan 3, 2008 12:03 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do our
  usual hyper-aggregation / tag meme thing.
 
  Regards,
  -Frank
 
  http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan
 
  rudy.jahchan@ wrote:
  
   I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to post more
   and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I
dream of
   going daily). And having a common location to post is grand to. But
   none of this is anything new.
  
   So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight paul.knight7@
   wrote:
   
Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most
  people
can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!
   
   
   
   
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@
wrote:
 
  Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the
end of
the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos
over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic,
Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do
anything you
want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a
great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And
it was
FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/
   
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 http://www.DavidMeade.com





Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
 Suddenly I'm getting a mental image of this site showing up whenever
 people are Googling anal.

Stranger things have happened ... I once had the distinct honor of 
being the #1 result in Google when searching for hot animal sex for a 
video I posted on siliconchef.com back when I was making my videofu 
segments in 2002.

http://siliconchef.com/2002/08/20/the-times-they-are-a-changin/

http://siliconchef.com/2002/07/14/video-fu-hot-animal-sex/

Back then I was borrowing bandwidth, so the popularity was a strain on 
my host and I eventually pulled the video. My friends have encouraged me 
to repost this to YouTube. So far I have resisted but it's tempting ... 
this could be the RickRoll of a new generation :)

Still, be careful how you tag your videos ...
--
Brian Richardson
  - http://whatthecast.com
  - http://siliconchef.com
  - http://dragoncontv.com
  - http://www.3chip.com


Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
On Jan 3, 2008 1:10 PM, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Suddenly I'm getting a mental image of this site showing up whenever
  people are Googling anal.
 
 Stranger things have happened ... I once had the distinct honor of
 being the #1 result in Google when searching for hot animal sex for a
 video I posted on siliconchef.com back when I was making my videofu
 segments in 2002.

I had a visitor to my site leave a guestbook entry saying she found me
from a google search on dry heaves    I'm trying not to take it
personally.


-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com


[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
I can smell a Mefeedia solution to this.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We'd be willing to syndicate the aggregated tag or channel to a blog,
 if someone would like us to do that.
 
 Regards,
 -Frank
 
 http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
 
  Yay!
  We're going to use a Wordpress blog with Show In A Box to collect the
  videos - make it easy to post and browse and search and archive.
  We'll keep Ning for discussions and ideas and other fun stuff.
  The Wordpress blog is being set up by Ze Nuno right now, and it'll be
  at http://semanal.org/
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Sull sulleleven@ wrote:
  
   i'll look at this as the underlying motivating nudge.
   we can all use a lil of that.
   
   i'd like to suggest using tumblr
   http://tumblr.com/disqushttp://disqus.cominstead of ning.
   but either way, i'll follow the lead and participate to the video
  pool that
   is SEMANAL.
   
   thx-
   
   sull.outputs.it
   
   On Jan 2, 2008 11:36 AM, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
   
  Hey everybody
   
Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
   
Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end
 of the
year.
   
Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
   
Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
 want.
As long as it moves.
   
Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
challenge and network to be involved in.
   
NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
  FUN :)
   
Join us at:
http://semanal.ning.com/
   
We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as
editors.
We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip
 Upload
page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author,
date
and keyword than at Ning.
   
 
   
   
   
   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  
 





Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
I'm sure any language is fine!  Vlogging is a global thing afterall.

welcome aboard.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:04 AM, John Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ok guys

 I am ready for this challenge

 I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que rico

 is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since SEMANAL is 
 Spanish and  means weekly

 regards

 JohnDkar
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Heath
you da man David!  Not only is David Meade funny he is also a tech 
geek of the highest order!

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Actually the more I think about this ... the more I really think we 
as
 a community are cheating ourselves and folks like MeFeedia.
 
 It's not like this is an event that lasts for 2 days and/or is a 
last
 minute thing.  We have a freakin year.  ** Imagine what could be 
done
 with that year. **
 
 Mefeedia is more than capable of tracking and displaying these 
videos
 for us.  They can let us comment there in one place (if we want 
that)
 or back at the vloggers site as we please.  Further they are eager 
to
 build out a social network and the features *we want* ... with a lil
 mini-community forming around this year long and somewhat casual
 experiment ... we could help them immensely with that - and thus 
help
 ourselves.
 
 Why don't we use MeFeedia for this (and all the while offer to them
 our feedback/wish lists/suggestions for improvements/etc)?  They 
have
 always proven to be eager to provide what the community wants, and
 this seems to be right up their ally.  With a channel at mefeedia 
its
 already all gathered up in one place automatically, we can comment 
on
 the items there, get listings of user activity for related videos, 
get
 recent video widgets for the channel ... all sorts of stuff.  (See
 NaVloPoMo for an example: 
http://www.mefeedia.com/channels/navlopomo/
 )
 
 And if there some lil whiz-bang thing that MeFeedia cant provide 
right
 now ... well we have a year ahead of us - lets use this chance to 
tell
 them all of the things like oh this would be so much cooler if 
you'd
 add this feature ...  I mean we can't complain about feeling like 
we
 always have to look for ways to reinvent the wheel if we don't give
 those who are trying to provide the tools we want a chance to 
actually
 do so.
 
 As so many have pointed out in this thread - this isn't anything
 radically different than normal vlogging.  Our Feeds and Aggregators
 can carry the weight, and we shouldn't need any REVOLUTIONARY
 functionality to make this work here at day 1.  MeFeedia can already
 provide the gathering place right now today ...  and we - in 
return -
 can use our experience with them to tell them how to do it even 
better
 in the near future.
 
 Lets all go get a mefeedia account (if you for some reason don't 
have
 one), make sure our feed is in the system (if for some reason it 
isn't
 already).  I volunteer to create the channel at mefeedia.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 - Dave
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2008 12:16 PM, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know a fuller solution is being worked on - and I know I kinda
  complained about this for NaVloPoMo  but please indulge my
  offering some suggestions on how to post and track Semanal videos:
 
  1) For Pete's sake I have a feed ... if, despite that, I have 
still
  have to go to this ning site and link to my videos each time then
 a) I simply wont remember to
 b) I wont want to
 c) I defeat the purpose of RSS in the first place
 
  I'm not sure if we're going to have a tag, but even if we don't
  couldn't we just create a 'Channel' at MeFeedia containing the 
feeds
  of participating vloggers or something?
 
  2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
  super-blog that we would all contribute to.   Does anyone think 
that
  this might lead to comments happening there rather than the 
vloggers
  site?  Is that something that nobody really cares about?
 
  I'm just trying to figure out why we're reinventing the wheel as 
far
  as how to gather up and collect videos when things like RSS and
  Aggregators (not to mention web based ones like MeFeedia) have 
been
  doing that for us for a while now.
 
  Do we have to come up with something nuts other than these tools 
and
  drive traffic away from the participating vloggers' sites?
 
  - Dave
 
 
  On Jan 3, 2008 12:03 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do 
our
   usual hyper-aggregation / tag meme thing.
  
   Regards,
   -Frank
  
   http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, rudy.jahchan
  
   rudy.jahchan@ wrote:
   
I agree with Paul. It's great this will motivate people to 
post more
and strongly encourage anyone to hit a weekly target (hell I 
dream of
going daily). And having a common location to post is grand 
to. But
none of this is anything new.
   
So you have even less of an excuse if you don't do it ;-)
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Paul Knight 
paul.knight7@
wrote:

 Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  
Most
   people
 can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!





 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe 
rupert@
 wrote:
  
   Hey 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Roxanne Darling
The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia solution. Ning
for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to speak and
majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation aspects. It's
less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the technology in
place.
To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
challenge to participation.  And no reason why we can't cross post
occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode strikes our
fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am meme-resistant in
many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
contribution.

Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,

Rox



On Jan 3, 2008 8:30 AM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   you da man David! Not only is David Meade funny he is also a tech
 geek of the highest order!

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com


 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Actually the more I think about this ... the more I really think we
 as
  a community are cheating ourselves and folks like MeFeedia.
 
  It's not like this is an event that lasts for 2 days and/or is a
 last
  minute thing. We have a freakin year. ** Imagine what could be
 done
  with that year. **
 
  Mefeedia is more than capable of tracking and displaying these
 videos
  for us. They can let us comment there in one place (if we want
 that)
  or back at the vloggers site as we please. Further they are eager
 to
  build out a social network and the features *we want* ... with a lil
  mini-community forming around this year long and somewhat casual
  experiment ... we could help them immensely with that - and thus
 help
  ourselves.
 
  Why don't we use MeFeedia for this (and all the while offer to them
  our feedback/wish lists/suggestions for improvements/etc)? They
 have
  always proven to be eager to provide what the community wants, and
  this seems to be right up their ally. With a channel at mefeedia
 its
  already all gathered up in one place automatically, we can comment
 on
  the items there, get listings of user activity for related videos,
 get
  recent video widgets for the channel ... all sorts of stuff. (See
  NaVloPoMo for an example:
 http://www.mefeedia.com/channels/navlopomo/
  )
 
  And if there some lil whiz-bang thing that MeFeedia cant provide
 right
  now ... well we have a year ahead of us - lets use this chance to
 tell
  them all of the things like oh this would be so much cooler if
 you'd
  add this feature ... I mean we can't complain about feeling like
 we
  always have to look for ways to reinvent the wheel if we don't give
  those who are trying to provide the tools we want a chance to
 actually
  do so.
 
  As so many have pointed out in this thread - this isn't anything
  radically different than normal vlogging. Our Feeds and Aggregators
  can carry the weight, and we shouldn't need any REVOLUTIONARY
  functionality to make this work here at day 1. MeFeedia can already
  provide the gathering place right now today ... and we - in
 return -
  can use our experience with them to tell them how to do it even
 better
  in the near future.
 
  Lets all go get a mefeedia account (if you for some reason don't
 have
  one), make sure our feed is in the system (if for some reason it
 isn't
  already). I volunteer to create the channel at mefeedia.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  - Dave
 
 
  On Jan 3, 2008 12:16 PM, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I know a fuller solution is being worked on - and I know I kinda
   complained about this for NaVloPoMo  but please indulge my
   offering some suggestions on how to post and track Semanal videos:
  
   1) For Pete's sake I have a feed ... if, despite that, I have
 still
   have to go to this ning site and link to my videos each time then
   a) I simply wont remember to
   b) I wont want to
   c) I defeat the purpose of RSS in the first place
  
   I'm not sure if we're going to have a tag, but even if we don't
   couldn't we just create a 'Channel' at MeFeedia containing the
 feeds
   of participating vloggers or something?
  
   2) One Blog to Rule them All -- Some talk has been made of a
   super-blog that we would all contribute to. Does anyone think
 that
   this might lead to comments happening there rather than the
 vloggers
   site? Is that something that nobody really cares about?
  
   I'm just trying to figure out why we're reinventing the wheel as
 far
   as how to gather up and collect videos when things like RSS and
   Aggregators (not to mention web based ones like MeFeedia) have
 been
   doing that for us for a while now.
  
   Do we have to come up with something nuts other than these tools
 and
   drive traffic away from the participating vloggers' sites?
  
   - Dave
  
  
   On Jan 3, 2008 12:03 PM, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really cool idea. What is the tag? semanal ? Mefeedia will do
 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of Hawaii:
 for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the infrastructure
feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without enhancing my
videoblogging/community experience.
If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our videos and
have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for the page
to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.

And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always leave me in
the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put up my
Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it will be
my Valentine vid..


On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia solution.
 Ning
 for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to speak
 and
 majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation aspects.
 It's
 less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the technology in
 place.
 To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
 challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
 occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode strikes our
 fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am meme-resistant
 in
 many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
 contribution.

 Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,

 Rox



-- 
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http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://hatfactory.net
AIM:schlomochat


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Jay dedman
 The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia solution. Ning
  for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to speak and
  majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation aspects.
 It's less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the technology in
  place.

I also dont want to make more work for myself.
so David...what would the workflow be for Mefeedia?
how do we set it up so I can see each weeks contributions without us
having to tag it differently each week?

what Rupert and I were talking about was a way to document each work's videos.
This way at the end of the project...we see how all the videos flowed
from week to week.
We can see the games or themes that developed over time.

Bre started a cool project called http://photogamer.com/
each day he throws out a photo idea...and everyone posts it in the
Photogamer group in Flickr.
http://flickr.com/groups/photogamer
Not perfect eitherbut closer to the idea behind Semenal.
this is less about quantity, and more about how we interact and
influence each other through the year.

Jay

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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL - ready for the challenge from China

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
Absolutely! I'm really psyched that already we have a whole bunch of
Spanish and English vloggers. Would love to see as many languages and
points of origin as possible :) It all brings us closers together...

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm sure any language is fine!  Vlogging is a global thing afterall.
 
 welcome aboard.
 
 On Jan 3, 2008 8:04 AM, John Cardenas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ok guys
 
  I am ready for this challenge
 
  I have joined SEMANAL   y me gusta que suene latino - joder que
rico
 
  is it going to be just in English or also in Spanish...since
SEMANAL is Spanish and  means weekly
 
  regards
 
  JohnDkar
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
Yes yes yes!  Agreed Dave, Heath, Rox, Jay  Schlomo

I missed Dave's second post about this where he went all William
Wallace about Mefeedia.  I'm ready to lay down my life for Mefeedia.

Poor Ze Nuno has just finished setting up the Wordpress blog, and I've
got Semanal.org pointed there!

But you're totally right.  

Frank is totally ready to set all this up for us at Mefeedia.

We can subscribe and search there.  And link together videos which are
responding to each other or are on the same topic.

Brilliant.

The universal tag should just be semanal, I think, don't you?

We can still use semanal.org to point at a central page that redirects
to Mefeedia and to Ning and which has other information. Perhaps that
central page can be the Wiki instead of a WP blog.

I'll start a thread on the Ning group for discussing how to do this
all, and ask Frank to join - and we can carry it on there rather than
clogging up this list.

Rupert
http://twittervlog.tv/

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of
Hawaii:
  for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the
infrastructure
 feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without
enhancing my
 videoblogging/community experience.
 If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our
videos and
 have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for
the page
 to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.
 
 And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always
leave me in
 the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put
up my
 Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it
will be
 my Valentine vid..
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia
solution.
  Ning
  for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to
speak
  and
  majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation
aspects.
  It's
  less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the
technology in
  place.
  To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
  challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
  occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode
strikes our
  fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am
meme-resistant
  in
  many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
  contribution.
 
  Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,
 
  Rox
 
 
 
 -- 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Sinton
Just let us know what you want, and we will accomadate.

One thought: 
One thing that we've always imagined is to decentralize the
centralization. What if I was on DavidMeade.com and could see that
Mike Moon just posted a Semanal video, clicked on that and went to
http://vlog.mikemoon.net, etc, etc.. Then, when i commented on
someone's vlog, this too would be something that would be syndicated
and viewed across vlogs. Not only would this be a really cool
decentralized tag meme, but this would also give viewers a sense of
cohesiveness that attracts them to central sites like YouTube. IMO, it
is the best of both worlds - i would personally be cruising across the
vlogosphere for hours. :)

Regards,
-Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of
Hawaii:
  for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the
infrastructure
 feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without
enhancing my
 videoblogging/community experience.
 If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our
videos and
 have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for
the page
 to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.
 
 And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always
leave me in
 the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put
up my
 Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it
will be
 my Valentine vid..
 
 
 On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia
solution.
  Ning
  for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to
speak
  and
  majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation
aspects.
  It's
  less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the
technology in
  place.
  To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
  challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
  occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode
strikes our
  fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am
meme-resistant
  in
  many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
  contribution.
 
  Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,
 
  Rox
 
 
 
 -- 
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 AIM:schlomochat
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
On Jan 3, 2008 4:12 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I missed Dave's second post about this where he went all William
 Wallace about Mefeedia.  I'm ready to lay down my life for Mefeedia.

Wahaha ... well I did stop short of painting my face blue. :-P

 Poor Ze Nuno has just finished setting up the Wordpress blog, and I've
 got Semanal.org pointed there!

Well, no reason we cant use both (so long as we do it smartly ;-) )

There are widgets from mefeedia that can reside at Semanal.org to give
a video taste of the event, and there are also a few wordpress plugins
that can consume an rss feed and create posts from it. (So it would be
easy to create a master blog somewhere that is populated automatically
from a feed (for example a mefeedia generated master feed)

http://projects.radgeek.com/feedwordpress
http://www.devthought.com/

probably others.

Semanal.org might also be a great place to post
challenges/suggestions/general updates/etc from/of/to the
participants?  And a great place to really put MeFeedia's
decentralize the
centralization ideas to the test.  ;-)

As for workflows ... I think the easiest and most universally
understood method would probably be to select a tag. ??   The
participants just need to pick one post a week to tag as Semanal
(or whatever the tag decided upon is)

The only other requirement is that participant vloggers have their
feed entered at mefeedia.com.  (I'd also recommend getting a mefeedia
user so you can comment on the videos and click the like it button,
etc).

- Dave

-- 
http://www.DavidMeade.com


[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
I've started a discussion thread at the Ning Group.

Perhaps we can hash it out further there?

http://tinyurl.com/ysxtu5

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just let us know what you want, and we will accomadate.
 
 One thought: 
 One thing that we've always imagined is to decentralize the
 centralization. What if I was on DavidMeade.com and could see that
 Mike Moon just posted a Semanal video, clicked on that and went to
 http://vlog.mikemoon.net, etc, etc.. Then, when i commented on
 someone's vlog, this too would be something that would be syndicated
 and viewed across vlogs. Not only would this be a really cool
 decentralized tag meme, but this would also give viewers a sense of
 cohesiveness that attracts them to central sites like YouTube. IMO, it
 is the best of both worlds - i would personally be cruising across the
 vlogosphere for hours. :)
 
 Regards,
 -Frank
 
 http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
 schlomo@ wrote:
 
  I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of
 Hawaii:
   for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the
 infrastructure
  feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without
 enhancing my
  videoblogging/community experience.
  If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our
 videos and
  have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for
 the page
  to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.
  
  And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always
 leave me in
  the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put
 up my
  Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it
 will be
  my Valentine vid..
  
  
  On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling okekai@ wrote:
  
 The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia
 solution.
   Ning
   for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to
 speak
   and
   majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation
 aspects.
   It's
   less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the
 technology in
   place.
   To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
   challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
   occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode
 strikes our
   fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am
 meme-resistant
   in
   many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
   contribution.
  
   Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,
  
   Rox
  
  
  
  -- 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
  http://hatfactory.net
  AIM:schlomochat
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Rupert Howe
Yes!

The thing that makes Youtube so addictive is this kind of surfing. 
I've always wanted it in non-YT videoblogging.

I don't know how you'd do it, but if you have ideas, let's try to make
it happen... :)
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just let us know what you want, and we will accomadate.
 
 One thought: 
 One thing that we've always imagined is to decentralize the
 centralization. What if I was on DavidMeade.com and could see that
 Mike Moon just posted a Semanal video, clicked on that and went to
 http://vlog.mikemoon.net, etc, etc.. Then, when i commented on
 someone's vlog, this too would be something that would be syndicated
 and viewed across vlogs. Not only would this be a really cool
 decentralized tag meme, but this would also give viewers a sense of
 cohesiveness that attracts them to central sites like YouTube. IMO, it
 is the best of both worlds - i would personally be cruising across the
 vlogosphere for hours. :)
 
 Regards,
 -Frank
 
 http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
 schlomo@ wrote:
 
  I'm seconding the opinion of our delegate from the grand state of
 Hawaii:
   for something as simple as doing a video a week, some of the
 infrastructure
  feels slike its just going to add to my video workflow without
 enhancing my
  videoblogging/community experience.
  If we make the main depository Mefeedia, can't we just tag our
 videos and
  have them show up there?  Maybe someone can make a pretty skin for
 the page
  to make it feel special and highlight whatever its about.
  
  And the thought of having actual content/meme assignments always
 leave me in
  the dust as I just dont keep up with them.  Heck, I havent even put
 up my
  Rampaging Santas video as I havent had time to finish it.  Maybe it
 will be
  my Valentine vid..
  
  
  On Jan 3, 2008 12:21 PM, Roxanne Darling okekai@ wrote:
  
 The more I read this thread, the more I like David's Mefeedia
 solution.
   Ning
   for discussion, support, our own blogs for featured posting so to
 speak
   and
   majority of comments, and mefeedia for the channel aggregation
 aspects.
   It's
   less work, no need to set up another site, and we use the
 technology in
   place.
   To those of us who post a lot, having to manage one more place is a
   challenge to participation. And no reason why we can't cross post
   occasionally to ning or to each others' sites when an episode
 strikes our
   fancy. Ning could be used to stimulate memes (though I am
 meme-resistant
   in
   many instances!) and/or let's all try this technique for next weeks
   contribution.
  
   Respectfully submitted from the 2 cents department,
  
   Rox
  
  
  
  -- 
  Schlomo Rabinowitz
  http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
  http://hatfactory.net
  AIM:schlomochat
  
  
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Why I Hate NING #1:
They send me an email notification each time someone adds to a discussion
thread, making me go to the site instead of just putting it in the email.

Pain. In. Butt.

Even The Facebooks has corrected this.


On Jan 3, 2008 1:46 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I've started a discussion thread at the Ning Group.

 Perhaps we can hash it out further there?

 http://tinyurl.com/ysxtu5









-- 
Schlomo Rabinowitz
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://hatfactory.net
AIM:schlomochat


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Sull
its funny that you say this.  and i didnt make the relation before now...
but a few days before you posted about SEMANAL, i was trying something out
that would attempt to merge a collective videoblog with a mailing
list/group.  so i setup this as a test run:

http://groups.google.com/group/vlogtumblr

the experiment uses tumblr + feedgrabber + google groups

posts are made to tumblr by anyone who wants to participate (either by
adding feed(s) to tumblr account or sharing the tumblr email to post or the
login creds).

the tumblr feed gets forwarded to google groups email address (using
feedbruner in this case).

result is a community videoblog site (could be wordpress etc just the same)
with a companion mailing list (could be yahoo groups or any mailing list
server).

apparently, feedburner only emails daily digests and i wanted individual
emails instead.  i first wanted to use rssfwd.com but i cannot control the
from email address so google groups rejects it (detected as
autoresponder).  still, other rss to email forwarding services/scripts can
be used in place of feedburner.
this was just proof of concept.

could debate the pros and cons of having discussions around videos on a
mailing list verses the central blog or the individual participants blogs.
and i also am a new fan of disqus.com which brings another perspective on
this.

anyway, funny timing.  i was literally just messing around with what seemed
to be an obvious thing to try.

sull

On Jan 3, 2008 4:41 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Yes!

 The thing that makes Youtube so addictive is this kind of surfing.
 I've always wanted it in non-YT videoblogging.




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Sull
i hear you.

not-a-ning-fan

facebook changed this?  finally!  didnt realize.


On Jan 3, 2008 5:04 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Why I Hate NING #1:
 They send me an email notification each time someone adds to a discussion
 thread, making me go to the site instead of just putting it in the email.

 Pain. In. Butt.

 Even The Facebooks has corrected this.


 On Jan 3, 2008 1:46 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]rupert%40fatgirlinohio.org
 wrote:

  I've started a discussion thread at the Ning Group.
 
  Perhaps we can hash it out further there?
 
  http://tinyurl.com/ysxtu5
 
 

 --
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 AIM:schlomochat

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  



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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Tim D
I'm with Schlomo on the Ning e-mails.

Also, my head is spinning right now.  I am so out of the loop.  Just
point me in the right direction, and tell me what to do!  I need to be
ordered around.  Someone.  Anyone?  The style of commenting on Ning is
somewhat confusing my visually learning brain , too - but that's just
me.

Tim
http://realitysandwich.wordpress.com

On Jan 3, 2008 5:04 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Why I Hate NING #1:
 They send me an email notification each time someone adds to a discussion
 thread, making me go to the site instead of just putting it in the email.

 Pain. In. Butt.

 Even The Facebooks has corrected this.


 On Jan 3, 2008 1:46 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've started a discussion thread at the Ning Group.
 
  Perhaps we can hash it out further there?
 
  http://tinyurl.com/ysxtu5
 
 

 --
 Schlomo Rabinowitz
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 AIM:schlomochat

 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Sull
haha.  i know man.  it's like-

-hey everyone, dont forget to vlog this year!  try to do at least one a
week.-

SEMANAL is a way to motivate.
see if it sticks.

i think no mefeedia is an automatic GO for this stuff so thats a sure
thing.
beyond that, the collective feed that is generated can be used in different
ways.
and the SEMANAL site will prob be your guide.

just make a video and tag it SEMANAL and sit back and see how this all
settles ;)

welcome back btw.

sull
On Jan 3, 2008 5:12 PM, Tim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm with Schlomo on the Ning e-mails.

 Also, my head is spinning right now. I am so out of the loop. Just
 point me in the right direction, and tell me what to do! I need to be
 ordered around. Someone. Anyone? The style of commenting on Ning is
 somewhat confusing my visually learning brain , too - but that's just
 me.


 Tim
 http://realitysandwich.wordpress.com




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Sull

 i think *[no]* mefeedia is an automatic GO for this stuff so thats a sure
 thing.


no was a typo.

On Jan 3, 2008 5:22 PM, Sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 haha.  i know man.  it's like-

 -hey everyone, dont forget to vlog this year!  try to do at least one a
 week.-

 SEMANAL is a way to motivate.
 see if it sticks.

 i think no mefeedia is an automatic GO for this stuff so thats a sure
 thing.
 beyond that, the collective feed that is generated can be used in
 different ways.
 and the SEMANAL site will prob be your guide.

 just make a video and tag it SEMANAL and sit back and see how this all
 settles ;)

 welcome back btw.

 sull

 On Jan 3, 2008 5:12 PM, Tim D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm with Schlomo on the Ning e-mails.
 
  Also, my head is spinning right now. I am so out of the loop. Just
  point me in the right direction, and tell me what to do! I need to be
  ordered around. Someone. Anyone? The style of commenting on Ning is
  somewhat confusing my visually learning brain , too - but that's just
  me.
 
 
  Tim
  http://realitysandwich.wordpress.com
 
 



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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Cheryl
Not in my book, it isn't. During NaVloPoMo, Mefeedia picked up some of
my posts because they were on Blip.tv with the agreed-upon tag, but
did not pick up most of the videos out of my site's feed, despite my
RSS feed (the Word-Press generated one, and my Feedburned one) being
listed with Mefeedia and using the same tag on my posts.

I can't be the only participant who had a lot of videos missing from
the Mefeedia NaVloPoMo channel.

I am all for working with Mefeedia but I'd really want to see this
issue get ironed out before selecting Mefeedia as THE source for Semenal.

Cheryl Colan

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Mefeedia is more than capable of tracking and displaying these videos
 for us.  



Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Jay dedman
  There are widgets from mefeedia that can reside at Semanal.org to give
  a video taste of the event, and there are also a few wordpress plugins
  that can consume an rss feed and create posts from it. (So it would be
  easy to create a master blog somewhere that is populated automatically
  from a feed (for example a mefeedia generated master feed)
  http://projects.radgeek.com/feedwordpress
  http://www.devthought.com/
  probably others.
  Semanal.org might also be a great place to post
  challenges/suggestions/general updates/etc from/of/to the
  participants? And a great place to really put MeFeedia's
  decentralize the
  centralization ideas to the test. ;-)
  As for workflows ... I think the easiest and most universally
  understood method would probably be to select a tag. ?? The
  participants just need to pick one post a week to tag as Semanal
  (or whatever the tag decided upon is)

David...are you still working for Mefeedia these days?
if so, maybe you could lead developing this stuff.

Ning is definitely not perfect, but here's what Id like to see for a
group project.
I want to see all videos done for each week.
Is this possible at mefeedia without making a new tag each week?
just having a list of hundreds of videos at mefeedia isnt that useful.

Also, what happens if someone's video isnt picked up in a tag?
is it possible to manually add a video URL?

and when you say tags, do you mean a technorati tag? rel=tag? blogger
tags? are they all the same?

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Kath O'Donnell
the only problem I have with aggregator sites using tags, is that
people wanting to watch the videos or even dropping by need to know
the tag to be able to see the content, and if the site isn't dedicated
to the project, then there's likely to be multiple tags and possibly
they are not obvious to a visitor. but a dedicated site with
menus/forum threads for each week (for example) is more intuitive for
them as it's more in their face and obvious. I know most of my friends
(who granted probably aren't the target audience) don't know what tags
are or what they're meant to do with them. but they know how to visit
a website  sites like facebook with forums etc and click on links.
so, whilst it's probably ok for us to use, an aggregator site might
not be as intuitive for regular non-web video users.  also if the
videos are available on a dedicated site the text blog
entries/titles/comments are searchable. (eg people know how to use a
search field on youtube or google). this is true for an aggregated
site also, but it would return results outside the project. whereas a
project site search would only search the project info. it's a lot
easier to tell people goto site X  having clear links/menus available
on front page, rather than have to explain, goto site Y find the tags
link, find tag Z and click on it, then search for the post by wading
through multiple pages/dates etc.

plus a dedicated site would be good for archival of the project
afterwards if that's something people are thinking of (I suppose for
as long as the hosting is kept up!)

I don't really mind either way as my traffic/comments for videos is
small anyway but not sure if others might want to consider it. if it's
just a project for the group then the aggregator is ok, if people
would like others to drop by then I think it has to be really simple
and similar to other non-media websites navigation wise.

if video tags  an aggregator site are to be used,  the tagged videos
could populate a site in addition to being searchable via the tag on
mefeedia I think it'd be good. ie have both available.


kath



On Jan 3, 2008 10:46 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






  There are widgets from mefeedia that can reside at Semanal.org to give
   a video taste of the event, and there are also a few wordpress plugins
   that can consume an rss feed and create posts from it. (So it would be
   easy to create a master blog somewhere that is populated automatically
   from a feed (for example a mefeedia generated master feed)
   http://projects.radgeek.com/feedwordpress
   http://www.devthought.com/
   probably others.
   Semanal.org might also be a great place to post
   challenges/suggestions/general updates/etc from/of/to the
   participants? And a great place to really put MeFeedia's
   decentralize the
   centralization ideas to the test. ;-)
   As for workflows ... I think the easiest and most universally
   understood method would probably be to select a tag. ?? The
   participants just need to pick one post a week to tag as Semanal
   (or whatever the tag decided upon is)

  David...are you still working for Mefeedia these days?
  if so, maybe you could lead developing this stuff.

  Ning is definitely not perfect, but here's what Id like to see for a
  group project.
  I want to see all videos done for each week.
  Is this possible at mefeedia without making a new tag each week?
  just having a list of hundreds of videos at mefeedia isnt that useful.

  Also, what happens if someone's video isnt picked up in a tag?
  is it possible to manually add a video URL?

  and when you say tags, do you mean a technorati tag? rel=tag? blogger
  tags? are they all the same?


  Jay

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  917 371 6790
  Professional: http://ryanishungry.com
  Personal: http://momentshowing.net
  Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Kinda a tangent:
What about having a page that just constantly scrolls through the videos?  A
lean back experience, as they say in the biz.

How would that be made? By having our videos going through the same feed?

If I could watch the NaVloPoMo vids this way, I would be able to see the
interaction/communication/elaboration that was happening during that month
(like the little memes that happened... showing the work environment,
various topics, whatever)

just a thought

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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Chris
This sounds like fun. I'm in.

One question, though: what's the deadline for posting my first video?
The 7th?

Chris
http://action83.blip.tv
htp://www.myspace.com/necropol



Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Frank Sinton
All - Rupert has started a wish list over at http://semanal.ning.com - it
already includes a lot of the comments / suggestions here.

Re: Cheryl's post - we are willing to devote developer resources for looking
into specific issues with some posts not being picked up. We are here to
work with you all. I am also available via email or phone for questions /
issues / suggestions - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 310.927.7841 (mobile). We have a
small team (4) compared to a Ning or Facebook, but we are here, focused, and
willing to spend the time to get it right.

Jay - David Meade doesn't work for us, but I'd sure be willing to hire him
to help on this project if he has time available. :)

Schlomo - great idea. I know some people that plugged this feed into Miro
for that experience:
http://www.mefeedia.com/tags/navlopomo/rss2.xml
I'd love to hear other ideas on creating this experience - either here or
you can email me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Nintendo Wii comes to mind.

Regards,
Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web

On Jan 3, 2008 4:52 PM, schlomo rabinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Kinda a tangent:
 What about having a page that just constantly scrolls through the videos?
 A
 lean back experience, as they say in the biz.

 How would that be made? By having our videos going through the same feed?

 If I could watch the NaVloPoMo vids this way, I would be able to see the
 interaction/communication/elaboration that was happening during that month
 (like the little memes that happened... showing the work environment,
 various topics, whatever)

 just a thought


 --
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 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 AIM:schlomochat

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CEO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.mefeedia.com/user/franks/ - What are you watching?


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread David Meade
On Jan 3, 2008 5:46 PM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David...are you still working for Mefeedia these days?
 if so, maybe you could lead developing this stuff.

No no, I'm just a vlogger who has had the opportunity to hang out with
the mefeedia folks in person a few times and has since been constantly
pestering them with all sorts of Here's what I'd want you to do sort
of emails. :-)  They're consistent tolerance for such pestering (and
even asking for more) have left me with a warm fuzzy toward their
desire to 'get it right'.

- Dave

-- 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-03 Thread Jay dedman
 Kinda a tangent:
  What about having a page that just constantly scrolls through the videos? A
  lean back experience, as they say in the biz.
  How would that be made? By having our videos going through the same feed?
  If I could watch the NaVloPoMo vids this way, I would be able to see the
  interaction/communication/elaboration that was happening during that month
  (like the little memes that happened... showing the work environment,
  various topics, whatever)

this is a better way to put it.
ryanne and I wrestled with watching all the NaVloPoMo videos, but it
was tough to follow the thread of posts.
i would like a leanback experience where I could watch the videos from
week to week.

There is the importance of individual videobloggers getting traffic
and credit for their work.
But there is also the importance of easily seeing the project as a
whole as it unfolds.

jay



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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Bill Cammack
I'm with it.

--
BillCammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rupert (and everybody else),
 
 I've been lurking since Irina dragged me on board at the end of the
year.
 THIS is exactly the kind of thing I want to play with. Watching the
 NaVloPoMo stuff really opened a new door for me so this is all kinds of
 exciting.
 
 Mike
 
 On Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/
 
  We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
  We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip Upload
  page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
  and keyword than at Ning.
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Mike Atherton
 
 Saying the wrong thing since 1972
 
 Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong
 
 http://www.sizemore.co.uk
 http://twitter.com/sizemore
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Steve Watkins
Nice idea, I might even be capable of achieving this one as Ive been 
desperately trying to 
slap myself into actually doing something in 2008.

Let us know when the wordpress site is up  running, or if any assistance is 
required with 
that sort of thing.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm with it.
 
 --
 BillCammack.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sizemore mikesizemore@ wrote:
 
  Hi Rupert (and everybody else),
  
  I've been lurking since Irina dragged me on board at the end of the
 year.
  THIS is exactly the kind of thing I want to play with. Watching the
  NaVloPoMo stuff really opened a new door for me so this is all kinds of
  exciting.
  
  Mike
  
  On Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
  
 Hey everybody
  
   Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
  
   Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of the
   year.
  
   Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
   course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
  
   Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
   YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you want.
   As long as it moves.
  
   Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
   challenge and network to be involved in.
  
   NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
 FUN :)
  
   Join us at:
   http://semanal.ning.com/
  
   We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
   We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip Upload
   page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
   and keyword than at Ning.
  

  
  
  
  
  -- 
  Mike Atherton
  
  Saying the wrong thing since 1972
  
  Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong
  
  http://www.sizemore.co.uk
  http://twitter.com/sizemore
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Rupert Howe
Mike!

Great!  I'm psyched that you're in!

Mike's a regular Seesmic user.  That's what finally pushed him into
getting a Xacti and videoblogging outside Seesmic too.

I think Seesmic's going to bring a lot more people into creative 
communicative use of online video this year.


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rupert (and everybody else),
 
 I've been lurking since Irina dragged me on board at the end of the
year.
 THIS is exactly the kind of thing I want to play with. Watching the
 NaVloPoMo stuff really opened a new door for me so this is all kinds of
 exciting.
 
 Mike
 
 On Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/
 
  We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
  We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip Upload
  page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
  and keyword than at Ning.
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Mike Atherton
 
 Saying the wrong thing since 1972
 
 Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong
 
 http://www.sizemore.co.uk
 http://twitter.com/sizemore
 
 
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Rupert Howe
Bring it!

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm with it.
 
 --
 BillCammack.com
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sizemore mikesizemore@ wrote:
 
  Hi Rupert (and everybody else),
  
  I've been lurking since Irina dragged me on board at the end of the
 year.
  THIS is exactly the kind of thing I want to play with. Watching the
  NaVloPoMo stuff really opened a new door for me so this is all
kinds of
  exciting.
  
  Mike
  
  On Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
  
 Hey everybody
  
   Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
  
   Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end
of the
   year.
  
   Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
   course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
  
   Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
   YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
want.
   As long as it moves.
  
   Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
   challenge and network to be involved in.
  
   NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
 FUN :)
  
   Join us at:
   http://semanal.ning.com/
  
   We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as editors.
   We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip
Upload
   page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
   and keyword than at Ning.
  

  
  
  
  
  -- 
  Mike Atherton
  
  Saying the wrong thing since 1972
  
  Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong
  
  http://www.sizemore.co.uk
  http://twitter.com/sizemore
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Rupert Howe
Elbows, this is your year, I can feel it :)
You got it going well in videoblogging week last year.
Thanks for the offer of help, too.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice idea, I might even be capable of achieving this one as Ive been
desperately trying to 
 slap myself into actually doing something in 2008.
 
 Let us know when the wordpress site is up  running, or if any
assistance is required with 
 that sort of thing.
 
 Cheers
 
 Steve Elbows
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack billcammack@
wrote:
 
  I'm with it.
  
  --
  BillCammack.com
  
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sizemore mikesizemore@ wrote:
  
   Hi Rupert (and everybody else),
   
   I've been lurking since Irina dragged me on board at the end of the
  year.
   THIS is exactly the kind of thing I want to play with. Watching the
   NaVloPoMo stuff really opened a new door for me so this is all
kinds of
   exciting.
   
   Mike
   
   On Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM, Rupert Howe rupert@ wrote:
   
  Hey everybody
   
Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
   
Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end
of the
year.
   
Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
   
Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything
you want.
As long as it moves.
   
Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
challenge and network to be involved in.
   
NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
  FUN :)
   
Join us at:
http://semanal.ning.com/
   
We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as
editors.
We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the
Blip Upload
page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author,
date
and keyword than at Ning.
   
 
   
   
   
   
   -- 
   Mike Atherton
   
   Saying the wrong thing since 1972
   
   Writer | Tech Hipster | 9 Kinds of Wrong
   
   http://www.sizemore.co.uk
   http://twitter.com/sizemore
   
   
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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Heath
I see a promo getting made tonight!  Vlog On!

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Hey everybody
 
 Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
 Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of 
the
 year. 
 
 Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
 course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
 Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
 YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you 
want.
 As long as it moves.
 
 Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
 challenge and network to be involved in.  
 
 NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure.  And it was 
FUN :)
 
 Join us at:
 http://semanal.ning.com/
 
 We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as 
editors. 
 We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip 
Upload
 page.  It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
 and keyword than at Ning.





Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Tim D
I'm so doing this!

Tim
http://realitysandwich.wordpress.com

On Jan 2, 2008 1:00 PM, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I see a promo getting made tonight! Vlog On!

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
 
  Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
 the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
 want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
 FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/
 
  We're setting up a Wordpress blog, with all participants as
 editors.
  We can all post videos there, and crosspost there from the Blip
 Upload
  page. It'll be easier to archive, search and browse by author, date
  and keyword than at Ning.
 



 


Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Kath O'Donnell
I'll give it a go too. one a week is more realistic for me going forwards.
ps. Rupert, I bought myself an N95 for xmas after your thoughts and
experience with the N93 (I wanted the gps too). so far it's great! so
thanks!! I wish I'd done it earlier. emailing 20Mb files to upload
seems to work better though - still testing this part out. (you should
_so_ get freebies from nokia for recommending/reviewing/using!!) I had
a little drama with buying it from a different phone provider to my
sim and my existing sim not working. I didn't realise 3 network locked
it (I suppose they all do) so I had to get a 1mth 3 sim and will
unlock it so I can use my existing sim. (I won't really use it as a
phone but I realise now that some of the features don't work unless
the sim is enabled - I was thinking it was more like a pda I guess
with optional phone capability)
kath




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Re: [videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Irina
oh fun i wanna do it too!

On Jan 2, 2008 2:20 PM, Kath O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'll give it a go too. one a week is more realistic for me going
 forwards.
 ps. Rupert, I bought myself an N95 for xmas after your thoughts and
 experience with the N93 (I wanted the gps too). so far it's great! so
 thanks!! I wish I'd done it earlier. emailing 20Mb files to upload
 seems to work better though - still testing this part out. (you should
 _so_ get freebies from nokia for recommending/reviewing/using!!) I had
 a little drama with buying it from a different phone provider to my
 sim and my existing sim not working. I didn't realise 3 network locked
 it (I suppose they all do) so I had to get a 1mth 3 sim and will
 unlock it so I can use my existing sim. (I won't really use it as a
 phone but I realise now that some of the features don't work unless
 the sim is enabled - I was thinking it was more like a pda I guess
 with optional phone capability)
 kath

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[videoblogging] Re: SEMANAL

2008-01-02 Thread Paul Knight
Hmm, isn't this what vloggers do anyway Or is it me?  Most people  
can do 52 posts in a year, it's nothing new!





--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  Hey everybody
 
  Ze Nuno's had a great idea.
 
  Every week in 2008, we're posting videos. 52 videos by the end of
the
  year.
 
  Continuing the spirit of NaVloPoMo, but posting 52 videos over the
  course of a whole year, instead of 30 in a month.
 
  Like NaVloPoMo, you can post on your blog, on Seesmic, Facebook,
  YouTube, whatever, wherever and however. You can do anything you
want.
  As long as it moves.
 
  Whether you already post weekly or not, I think it'll be a great
  challenge and network to be involved in.
 
  NaVloPoMo gave great inspiration, energy and exposure. And it was
FUN :)
 
  Join us at:
  http://semanal.ning.com/

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