Re: IIci drive trouble
Manuel Marques wrote: Thanks for all your answers. I'll try to get a cheap hub, to try... Thank god the card is not malfunctioning! Hubs are good for older macs. Returning to the disk, HD SC Setup doesn't recognize any drive connected to the SCSI bus. Thanks, my next question would be are you using the patched version which can see more drives. FWB may have been used just to get the mac to see the drive. By the way, which system should I use? Probably 7.5.5, right? Mac OS 7.6 is a bit heavy, I've tried it on my IIci and I didn't like... But on my LCIII it runs far better (and it is 25 MHz slower!) Age old mac problem: the best is the one that suits you and the software you run. Its nothing to have a small partition with say 7.1.x installed while all of its 3rd party apps are located on the large partition with a 7.5.x or 7.6 system folder - this allows for the speed of one system and compatibility of the second. For speed 6.0.8. Best of both worlds 7.1 would be my choice. There is little that wont run under 7.1 that will run under 7.5.x. Open Transport and Netscape4.08 are 2 examples. Any higher choice would depend on software requirements but thats my opinion only. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: IIci drive trouble
Manuel Marques wrote: Nothing. Ok, I'm doing backups and then I'll nuke the disk. Or, I can use a 1.2 Gb drive I've got somewhere... think it's faster than the IIci's 500 Mb Quantum... Nothing? In Apple HD SC Setup - click partition then click custom which should display the partition table. I've not used FWB but would be surprised if the partition table was hidden. The 1.2gb would be a noticable improvement, better still if you mount both drives and copy the first partitions contents over to the larger drive, saving to a point the need to reinstall programs - some may need reinstalling. Finalizing, I have a Asanté Ethernet card installed on the middle PDS slot... when I connect a cable to link it to my switch/router, the link led of the card lights up... but nothing happens on my switch. I've switched cables, ports, nothing! And I can't also access anything via network, and I've configured the TCP/IP parameters correctly! Is it possible the card is not working properly? What can I do about it? Asante cards are know to have problems with auto sensing router/switches. Stick a T10 hub between the mac and switch and you should be fine Thanks and Merry Christmas. A safe and peaceful christmas to all. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: IIci drive trouble
Manuel Marques wrote: Hi, I recently resurrected an old IIci which was lying there waiting for a new board, but now it's working great. I booted 7.5.1 (the OS which was on the HD) and it started up fine. The problem is that the HD driver is from FWB, and some of the HD partitions (the disk has 6 partitions) are password-protected. I don't know the password, the computer was my father's last Mac, and he also doesn't know the password. So, how can I delete the password-protected partitions without formatting? Is there any way? I can't use Apple's utilities, nor any other utility, and I cannot delete, rename, change the partition! http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/hd.html HD SC Setup 7.3.5 should do the job or the AUX version. Custom partition should show all partitions available with the boot partition locked ( if you boot from the hdd). You should then be able to remove password protected partitions ( provided they're not locked) and reformat the free space. Try to avolid 3rd party formatters when there's no need. Probably better starting with a nuke and pave but thats up to you. good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Round Windows
Macintalk Fejlesztés wrote: Hmm, maybe the Calculator/miniWRITER type window? You can turn most windows into that type, with ResEdit. Please explain the res hack if possible and how most appz would react to such a hack. I thought FaceSpan 3.0 , http://www.latenightsw.com/fs4/index.html for OSX - bit hard to find for 68k in a quick search http://web.archive.org/web/19990117000540/www.facespan.com/core.html suggests something useful is out there somewhere. . -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Problems Copying To and From Floppies
Brierley, Paul wrote: Upgrade to 7.5.5? 7.5.3 has known bugs... that's why 7.5.4 and 7.5.5 existed! Yeah, I found a much simpler solution in the end - choose Easy Install instead of trying to pick and choose parts of 7.5.3. Works like a dream now! 7.5.5 existed because 7.5.4 was a bug ridden limited distro release . Common trait in mac updates. Please check the 7.5.3 update2 or the readme's for this and 7.5.5 as both contain much the same code. For your setup either will do, one should be used. 7.5.5 seems of little value to 68k users, mainly focused on the ppc. The 7.5.5 update only updates what on your computer, well that what's in the readme. YMMV -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: IIfx won't boot
Eddie Roosenmaallen wrote: Hi all, I recently acquired a Mac IIfx. It looks to be in good shape, has the processor, ROM, lots of RAM, etc. The problem is that it won't power on at all - I get absolutely no response to the power key on the keyboard or on the case itself. The power cord and all other peripherals are known good (all were borrowed from my Power Mac). Before I get out my multimeter and pull the power supply apart, does anyone have any suggestions? check the pram battery(s) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: IIfx won't boot
Eddie Roosenmaallen wrote: Thank you, I'll take a look. Careful if using the quick power on/off method electric applications are not designed for such misuse though no one has posted a switch related problem when using it. This trick also works with other macs like the LC's which also will not boot with a dead battery. Richard may try checking the adb plug from the keyboard and cleaning the pins and socket - may be worth a look -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: cd ripper?
Samual Acorn wrote: 12MB? got anything that would fit on a floppy? (dont have a nic) Try CloanCD, (no link) I think its fat, maybe not, rips most things to iso then you use toast or nero to burn. Hard to find but small. Point is for a classic your not likely to find a rip and burn app that fits on a floppy. The link Gregg posted does allow resumed downloads if that helps, Stuffit and diskcopy will do segmented files which can be sent as attachments (stuffit deluxe 3.1.7 unreg or add scripts to diskcopy). I've misplaced Toast-3.5 so cant give you a size, I'll find it over the weekend. CloanCD2.0 is around 500k but will only make the image. What are you using for downloading and your email size limit may also be handy to know if you'd like someone to send something to you. good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Quantum Viking Hard Drives
Mark Benson wrote: On 2 Oct 2005, at 11:33, Gregg Eshelman wrote: lots of good SCSI advices All good sound advice, but in my case it's all old news I'm affraid. I think in the case of Quantum drives the nonsense that makes em play up on non-PC controllers is hardcoded onto the ROM. To give you a recent example, I hooked an Atlas IV up to my Amiga 1200 Tower (if you don't know don't ask ;o) ) SCSI chain and the Hard Disk utility refused to even talk to it. It didn't see it at all. I took that drive off and hooked up a Seagate Barracuda in exactly the same chain with hte same settings and bam - it came straight up. The amiga is off topic :( scsi is an addon and disktools vary depending on many factors. I'm not saying your wrong Mark, its just not the best example. . . My 1200 runs Quantum bigfoots - 4.0gb rather than 4.3 which has cause problems, mainly operator error under the 3.0 rom. Low Levelling on a PC might solve it Best bet. http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Maxtor/menuitem.5d2b41d3cef51dfe29dd10a191346068/?channelpath=/en_us/Support/Product%20Support/Enterprise%20Storage/Quantum%c2%ae%20Family/Viking Enterprise storage, lol. Pulldowns start the download, there's a good idea :( Gregg's point's regarding the jumpers, J3 would be best to configure the rear one affects the *chain* from what I read. Returning the the wrong scsi ID seems odd as I don't see why it would be firmware or what real use such a feature would have .. Model # please and good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Free bits
Manuel Marques wrote: ahem... not ONLY on accelerated IIcis. If you use Born Again or make some ResEdit hacks you can run 8.1 on 68030 Macs (including LC3 :P) http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/os8_68030.html http://www.vintagebox.de/mac68k/macos_p2-en.html Its been done :) OS8.0 also has a floppy set on cd. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: TokaMac Drivers
Quote from Tokamac1.4: October 18, 1995 TokaMac Status All versions of the software in this directory have been upgraded to function with System 7.5 and 7.5.1. If you wish, you can tune your existing control panel using the TokaTuner 7.5. This is a drag and drop application. Basically, you should drag a copy of your existing control panel on the TokaTuner to make it System 7.5 saavy (it also supports System 7.5.1). Most Users should use TokaMac v1.3.1, the other versions are for special versions of the hardware. TokaMac 25 v1.5 is exclusively for LC LCII machines. TokaMac v1.3.1is for SE/30, IIsi, IIci machines. TokaMac 25i v1.3.4 does not support an FPU on SE/30, IIsi, IIci machines. TokaMac ELC v1.3 is for LC LCII without either FPU or MMU. TokaMac II FX v1.4 is for the IIfx machine. TokaMac v1.4 is for the 33 and 40 MHz boards for the IIci. Enjoy, Andrew I don't own a board so if anyone would like to try 1.4 drop me a line. I'll try to find earlier versions. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: TokaMac Drivers
Powermac wrote: About all I could come up with is some guys (in Japan) iDisk archive of the IIci version of the software, which won't work on my IIfx. Sounds like v1.4 which is why I posted the readme. If yours isn't 1.4 I'll send you what I have. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Top Posting Discussion, Was: Re: Broken LC
Dave Ricker wrote: Darren I find it, said politely, amusing that you would consider it complete stupidity to re-title a clearly off topic reply to a thread. It is a courtesy to the readers to re-title a thread that has deviated from the initial topic. What has netiquete got to do with the original LC discussion? Yes, nothing. Thank you Dave Starting a new subject line and quoting 4 full emails and footers from a continuing thread is nothing short of complete stupidity really. cheers In truth the stupidest things I read on these lists are my own posts. :) My problem is one of reasons listed earlier and one of the reasons bottom posting is prefered. Top posts can be very untidy if the sender is lazy, no reason for editing gives us all this: Samual Acorn wrote: reply from the bottom.. nope... prefer not... hit reply and the cursor is placed at the top along with a complementory On $date, $user $address wrote:... and since you replied at the bottom we get 3 messages in one this time... use webmail for list access and learn to use it? i have... and this is the only list that has gotten its panties in a wad about top replies... and considering im 'mod' on more than a handfull of them apparently they have no problems with top replies... rubbed the wrong way about telling someone to unsub because they dont like the list content? do you get rubbed the wrong way when someone tells you to turn the TV off if you dont like what you are seeing? same difference as far as im concerned... dont like it? dont download it... nothing personal to that specific user... that was a 'general' statement... and at that i will say now... the 'thin skinned' of the list would do well to ignore my posts... cheers... On 20/08/05, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samual Acorn wrote: im using gmail... not a pop3 client... and as far as cutting the trailing text off.. it does so from my view... clicking on 'show quoted text' shows it 'hide quoted text' hides it... and no... i wont cut the bottom off... if you dont like it... ignore it... simple as that... im not the one complaining about the footer... you ppl are... the telnet bbs's are are also a dying breed... my point was that this -mailing list- isnt a BBS or usenet to which jeff was was comparing it... On 20/08/05, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samual Acorn wrote: But as the FAQ says, most top posters fail to clip extraneous text, which is rude and inconsiderate. then the list shouldnt attach spam (who pays attention to ads anyway) and comple subscribe/unsubscribe info... should only attach a single link to a webpage with the info... btw, the days of the dial-in bbs are over (thank god) ... and this isnt a bbs or usenet... if the extra text bothers you that bad then unsubscribe... ...just my $0.02 Cut the bloody footers. Simple as that. Set the prefs in your client to do this if your to freaken lazy. Nobody really cares where you post, just cut the crap off. There is no spam attached, the ad links pay for the list and why do you leave them? Spam is unwanted mail not links, if you dont wont them unsub. You can telnet for example into some bbs's they are not dead dipshit. Your opinion is vasty over priced. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com Ok. I do apologize for my lack of tact earlier. This is how LEM would like you to reply. The onus is on the poster to edit the previous post above thus removing the footer and hopefully unnecessary clutter. I guess this should work with everything that can access email, even gmail, oh look my account has been a yahoo account for years. Please consider the list covers everyone, some folk use ontopic macs as their internet machines. These folk like the traffic but not the repeated content. They may also have limited net access or slow connections, it is a mac68k list. Your suggestion Jeff should unsub if offended by the extra text rubs me the wrong way. The footers are spam doesn't work for me. If you use webmail for list access, learn how to use it. Reply from the bottom and see how you go. cheers -- Vintage Macs
Re: Broken LC
Samual Acorn wrote: reply from the bottom.. nope... prefer not... hit reply and the cursor is placed at the top along with a complementory On $date, $user $address wrote: lazy? ... and since you replied at the bottom we get 3 messages in one this time... because you fail to edit, I just tried it your way, my clients default and your dont care attitude and its my fault - thats rich coming from you. use webmail for list access and learn to use it? i have... and this is the only list that has gotten its panties in a wad about top replies... and considering im 'mod' on more than a handfull of them apparently they have no problems with top replies... No you haven't, its plain to see and for the second time nobody gives a ship where you post, its your lack of editing thats the problem, have I been typing that bit to fast for you to understand? rubbed the wrong way about telling someone to unsub because they dont like the list content? do you get rubbed the wrong way when someone tells you to turn the TV off if you dont like what you are seeing? same difference as far as im concerned... the comparsion makes little sense. dont like it? dont download it... nothing personal to that specific user... that was a 'general' statement... and at that i will say now... the 'thin skinned' of the list would do well to ignore my posts... The list as a whole would do well to ignore your posts. Actually the nanny or listmom should have called this by now. Post wherever you like and to anyone taking the list in digest form stiff ship if you have to download several times the volume. Samual doesn't care and cant be shown. If you have a limited dailup plan, stiff again, just unsub or deal with it. There is no difference between the many LEM list or the macs they cover. No thank you to the netiquette guidelines, I can neither check my clients reply preferences or alter the way I work, nor can I be bothered to edit manually because - lazy? Quoting sparingly does require manual work, since most email programs automatically quote the original message in replies. But failing to edit the original wastes everyone's time and bandwidth. I find it amazing some folks fail to understand the quote above, regardless of where you start the reply. Starting a new subject line and quoting 4 full emails and footers from a continuing thread is nothing short of complete stupidity really. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Netiquette
Jeff Walther wrote: Did you bother to read the house rules when you subscribed?This is not a public forum. We are playing in the List Mom's house and his rule is that you clip the footers. Try reading the etiquette to which you agreed when you signed up. http://lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml Although I doubt it will have any effect. You brag about being lazy. Your laziness inconveniences hundreds of people. You have the morals of a litterbug. No effect at all I fear. We only ask you take some time when you post. Edit the reply please. It makes no difference where the reply starts. Spare a thought for others, especially the lowend machines. The pot calling a kettle black for the last time. ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Broken LC
Samual Acorn wrote: But as the FAQ says, most top posters fail to clip extraneous text, which is rude and inconsiderate. then the list shouldnt attach spam (who pays attention to ads anyway) and comple subscribe/unsubscribe info... should only attach a single link to a webpage with the info... btw, the days of the dial-in bbs are over (thank god) ... and this isnt a bbs or usenet... if the extra text bothers you that bad then unsubscribe... ...just my $0.02 Cut the bloody footers. Simple as that. Set the prefs in your client to do this if your to freaken lazy. Nobody really cares where you post, just cut the crap off. There is no spam attached, the ad links pay for the list and why do you leave them? Spam is unwanted mail not links, if you dont wont them unsub. You can telnet for example into some bbs's they are not dead dipshit. Your opinion is vasty over priced. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Broken LC
Samual Acorn wrote: im using gmail... not a pop3 client... and as far as cutting the trailing text off.. it does so from my view... clicking on 'show quoted text' shows it 'hide quoted text' hides it... and no... i wont cut the bottom off... if you dont like it... ignore it... simple as that... im not the one complaining about the footer... you ppl are... the telnet bbs's are are also a dying breed... my point was that this -mailing list- isnt a BBS or usenet to which jeff was was comparing it... On 20/08/05, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samual Acorn wrote: But as the FAQ says, most top posters fail to clip extraneous text, which is rude and inconsiderate. then the list shouldnt attach spam (who pays attention to ads anyway) and comple subscribe/unsubscribe info... should only attach a single link to a webpage with the info... btw, the days of the dial-in bbs are over (thank god) ... and this isnt a bbs or usenet... if the extra text bothers you that bad then unsubscribe... ...just my $0.02 Cut the bloody footers. Simple as that. Set the prefs in your client to do this if your to freaken lazy. Nobody really cares where you post, just cut the crap off. There is no spam attached, the ad links pay for the list and why do you leave them? Spam is unwanted mail not links, if you dont wont them unsub. You can telnet for example into some bbs's they are not dead dipshit. Your opinion is vasty over priced. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com Ok. I do apologize for my lack of tact earlier. This is how LEM would like you to reply. The onus is on the poster to edit the previous post above thus removing the footer and hopefully unnecessary clutter. I guess this should work with everything that can access email, even gmail, oh look my account has been a yahoo account for years. Please consider the list covers everyone, some folk use ontopic macs as their internet machines. These folk like the traffic but not the repeated content. They may also have limited net access or slow connections, it is a mac68k list. Your suggestion Jeff should unsub if offended by the extra text rubs me the wrong way. The footers are spam doesn't work for me. If you use webmail for list access, learn how to use it. Reply from the bottom and see how you go. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Marathon?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: What sort of Macintosh can run the game Marathon? *MARATHON* It was THE Macintosh 3D shooter - made especially for Macs by a Mac-related company (Bungie - now sadly assimilated by Borg). It is optimized for MacOS, so it can run even on a 68020, though it can take advantage of a 3D accelerator. In the game you play an astronaut fighting robots controlled by a supercomputer that went bonkers. But basically it's the shoot-first-ask-later type of game. *OVERALL RATING*: 68020 and 68030 users will enjoy it (they have virtually no choice). PowerPC users will find the graphics a bit too crude. *SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:* A 68020-equipped Macintosh, running system 6.07 or later, with 4 megabytes of RAM and 13 megabytes of free harddrive space. *CD-ROM:* Not necessary. *SCREEN:* 640*480 fixed, 256 colors required, thousands recommended. *SLEEP:* Not compatible. Weird, for a Mac-optimized game - but it was written even before the sleep option was introduced. *KEYBOARD/TRACKPAD: *By default the game offers you a special, powerbook-designed keyboard layout. Isn't that cute? *BUGS:* None detected. What sort of Macintosh does it run really well on? ? this wont get through -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???
John Niven wrote: Well, I have to laugh, I just spent some time setting up a dual 200MHz Pentium Pro machine (lovely old Tyan m/b and 1Gb of ram!), hooked up to an old Apple 15AV monitor, and loaded with netBSD. Is this the future for Apple fans? Its the present except the nice mac screens are bigger and the OS has more bells and whistles. Do they make NetBSD for alpha? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???
Andre Skarzynski wrote: Yes they do; http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/ :) excellent, thank you both for the idea and link. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: new mac names designations
Manuel Marques wrote: Hi there, With these new Intel chips, Macs won't be called ever again as 'G5' or 'G4'. Will we return to names like those on the past? (Centris, Quadra, LC, etc...) Or will Macs be called as Mac D or PowerBook M? I've heard the word 'Mactel'. I don't want to have a computer called Mactel! It looks like a telephone or something like that (at least in Portuguese). By the way, as Intel chips will power the new Macs, will the prices drop a bit? Finally I will get a Macintosh that will run my Window$ games and progs as well! So far its Mactel, going to be hard to shake that one. I have no idea what Apple will call the model lines. You'd expect the prices to be more affordable, its a step down for most mac fans so there will have to be some sort of carrot. I doubt games will run, it a different OS and file system, windows emulation will improve as all emulators run better on native hardware, freeing a major drain on the host machines resources, I dont see you running lego starwars any time soon but it will be there somewhere down the track. Multi core cpu's may eventually allow you to run more than one OS at a time. If its possible it would make for a interesting personal computer. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???
NODEraser wrote: I started using Macs and PCs at about the same time (1990 or so), and have continued to use both over the years. I don't find either OS particularly difficult to use or navigate, but perhaps it's just because I have grown with them. Pretty much sums it up for me, I dont understand how you compare a MacOS on Mac hardware and Windoze on every piece o crap hardware thats ever been invented. Most pc users have never flashed their mobo bio's for example, a Mac on the other hand does whats needed at each update. Not really a viable option for M$ is it, really? As a linux user who relies on open source goodness, Linus is not the be all desktop nor should it be touted, it keeps getting better and has a way to go yet. You can't beat the price and no one is sorry that no companies where bought to to add function to the OS. OpenOffice has many things to work out before it can become a serious competitor with Microsoft Office. It's still really buggy, and there are some semi-important things (in my opinion) that you just can't do, like only print a selected page(s) from a spreadsheet. Little to far OT from the old nanny. :) It's free, if there's a problem join the development crew or the forum. We paid for 10.4 server to replace OS9 and AppleshareIP in our x-platform office, 1 day it lasted. All sorts of problems running MYOB which we have used since the Colour Classic was new, problems networking with both the imacs and pc. Installed by the Mac tech at the local over priced mac dealer we are back running OS9 and ASIP6.1.3 (there's another joke, ASIP6.1.3) with a rain check on a OS that will work on our server and do the freaken job. In OSX's defence linux can't do the job either and only fixes half the problems. Now please Mark what large holes are you talking about? I like looking at OSX, its like a Fisher-Price toy for kids. I like *using* XP even on this 6 year old ex celeron 600. ;) this board was a good buy, it's come a long way so deserves to still be used for email and surfing and mac emulation - well not Pear, thats for the 3.6 that doesn't go online to often. Moving from AmigaOS to Mac was a hard, to move again to the pc was complete chaos for me, in the end I stopped trying to compare everthing else to what I was used to, once I'd done that I could finally understand Nix. :) and enjoy what was in front of me for its good and bad points. A MacOS on intel will not loose its soul it will still be different in a mac sort of way, it will still come in a cutting edge box and take a different approach to the way you work on your computer. Personally I'd like to see it try to cover everything XP-pro does in the way of hardware but no one does that do they? :) P4 3.6, it will be a while before Pentium D gets to 3.6, dual cores+intel=heat if developers are getting 3.6 boxes now it narrows your choices down a bit. Alot changes in 2 years. Mac users are very adaptable, I'm sure to be reading a whole different lot of Windows bashing in three years time, I trust that wont change. ;) I'd like to see OS wars on a even playing field, if that doesn't happen I'll side with Jeff on this one. For what little its worth there's a nice story about M$ buying G5 macs to run emulation of the X-box 360 for developement on either Znet or Cnet - come's around goes around in this case? Is the x-box the only computer M$ has made? I call it a computer as you can run serval nix distros, downloads found on most public ftp servers along with a couple of emulators that I know of. Gregg? Well normally...Cheers. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Huh? Wah? I was sleeping there. X-Box? For cripe's sake I only just recently bought a SEGA Dreamcast... Don't talk to me about no X-Box... ;) My last was the N64 for $25, a couple of good emulators for both mac and pc getting about for that one , I should see a x-box sometime soon for around the same price. Got to love progress when your not hating it. Sega lost me with the MegaDrive and cd-rom expansion. My spelling is very worse than normal tonight. :) cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PowerPC 7500
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have this list confused with the pci-mac list where you will find folks to help with your questions. 1. 9.0 is fine on the 7500, Xpostfacto should allow you to upgrade to 9.2.2 atleast. I dont see a problem getting X onto it. The 7500 will run up to 9.1 without any hacks, but it has to boot from a 9.0 or 9.1 CD to install. To get to 9.2.2 he needs OS9 Helper from www.os9forever.com XPostFacto is only for hacking OSX unto unsupported PowerMacs. Did you miss Marks post? Just couldnt resist could you. ;) As I'd prefer to see OS9 used it would be a idea to get the required tools name right. 9.1 being a must have update for 9.0, 9.2 mainly for OSX-OS9 compatibility. OS9 Helper was used here to satisfy the driver needs of the Radeons I flash (Mac2TV being one) otherwise I'd stick with 9.1, apart from not passing video from the dos card through as the voodoo before it did and the need to hack the Classic OS, a semi decent video card and OS9 should do what Thomas is looking for. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: PowerPC 7500
Thomas Burns wrote: A couple questions. I'm trying to turn a 7500 into a little media center mainly just playing iTunes or internet radio. Specs on the 7500: Currently running 8.6 with a 2gb HD and 512mb ram and a sonnet crescendo 450mhz upgrade Can I do the following... 1. Install 10.2 or 10.3 (I just bought a copy of 9.0 and assume I can use Xpostfacto, has anyone done this?) 2. Install a wireless card? 3. Have the S-video out display on the TV? 4. Use a bluetooth keyboard or mouse after putting a USB card in? 5. Related question, does Airport Express extend the range of a (non-Airport) wireless router? You have this list confused with the pci-mac list where you will find folks to help with your questions. 1. 9.0 is fine on the 7500, Xpostfacto should allow you to upgrade to 9.2.2 atleast. I dont see a problem getting X onto it. 2. Got any pci slots empty? Check compatiblity with the OS you settle for. 3. I've flashed a few ATI cards for the powermac, the 7000 and above have s-video out and support for OS9.2 and above. 4. Depends on the OS, you may find some problems under the classic OS, you will always need to keep a adb board around incase you need to use keyboard shortcuts during the startup, usb loads as an extention. Looking at buying a Sonet tempo firewire/usb2/ata card for mine. USB2 is unsupported under the classic OS AFAIK. 5. dont now. You will want a newer hardrive! It will make a difference to the feel of the machine and keep it quiet which is nice for a media center I'd almost suggest keeping 8.6 (a good OS for the 7500) and trying out your options on a new drive, you will need one for OSX regardless. Install atleast OS9.1 update before forming a opinion about OS9. Good luck, the pci list is full of folks that will help you. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Time to Talk Classic Macs - HyperCard (was [Re: Oh my....... Intel CPU's???] )
Steve wrote: Time to talk a little bit about Classic Macs, what do you say? I am trying to (1) locate HyperCard 1.25 or 2.0 to run on my System 7.5.5 and (2) locate the HyperMover stack as well. Since I am in the midst of wrestling with TCP/IP on the MacTV, and I don't want that to hold up my HyperCard needs, I was wondering if anyone that has the above would be willing to burn a CD with the stuff - I'd pay appropriately. We have 1.0.1, 1.2.5 and 2.4.1 which will work on os6.0.5 and later, currently running under 9.2 as they all do here, you require OS7.0 and higher to use OSA with the applescript extention, to use video you require 7.5 and QT 1.6.1 (haven't tried this under 7.1) . Button tasks require 7.0 with QT and applescript installed. You also have colour and speech via the 1.3 extention (this is taken from the 2.3 What's new). I dont use it often as I'd rather use Squeak for x-platform goodness. Sqeak is well worth the look for a x-platform hypercard like app and runs on just about everything. We seem to have a german version of 1.2.1 also, dont remember where that came from. ;) http://mirror.apple.com/Mirrors/Apple_Software_Updates/US/Apple_II/HyperCard_IIGS_1.1/ for hypermover? Start a *new* thread regarding the tcp/ip problems on the mactv. I use classic networking and a static address for networked 68k machines (Miami copes ok regardless). I use the DynaPort SCSI/LinkT adaptor for the ethernet challenged, the software installs a icon into mactpc's CP, static addressing is the only real option under mactcp (no luck with the sys6 drivers crashing during reboot but that maybe a ram problem). Reseting the hub/switch has helped in the past here as has setting the correct local host address. MacTPC can be fun to config with some hardware. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Iigs info?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a Iigs at the local thrift today, clip Woz's signature was neat, at any rate. The IIgs is in the apple ][ line, not Macintosh, so you need apple ][ and IIgs software. GSOS 6.0.1, makes a Bra sound on a good startup (YOMV) very close to what I think is a sys 6 startup (we only have BW macs running sys 6 so ) the startup chime isn't like a mac. The rest of the startup is much like a mac. Currently looking at Appleworks.GS, Redit, Rsrc.Spy and Hypercard amongst others. Apple menu's About this Apple IIgs finder 347k,system 469k, Desk accessories 110k, setup files 70k. Total 4224k Available 3226k System Software 6.0.1, rather Mac like. The LC monitor wont work, well you should make sure you *know* what the ports are BEFORE you plug and power. Good luck, LEM has a apple ][ list ??? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: System 1
Manuel Marques wrote: It's very weird to me that a more recent version of BII cannot run on my pc (with Windows Xp...), and a older version can! ;-) Okey, time to set up things... The 2005 version of 0.8.0.142 does have a few bugs and half arsed code. For example: the only cpu choice is 68040 and its writen to the prefs file as 68040, trouble here is the 68040 entry is void and now represented by 4. You also need the JIT entries, needed for the most resent version but the option is not included in the BasiliskII-gui.exe, you can add them by hand but like the example above the changes will be overwriten when the gui.exe runs again. Again, not a problem if you know of them. Gwenole doesn't use windows to my knowledge, any port is a very low priority and bound to be less than 100%. That said running OS8.5-9.1 on a pc or OSX (for that matter) would still be a way off without him, both very doable with a hardware upgrade. More so again if you run a flavor of Nix. When your wearing your Windows hat surely you have found older versions of programs that are better than newer versions, just another example I guess, atleast the gui reflects the exe's prefs correctly. ;) I hope it goes well, if not just think of Bill Gates demonstrating plug play with a scanner and the blue screen of death - smile. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Here's Basilisk II Win32 Re: System 1
Gregg Eshelman wrote: The person doing the JIT version released a very buggy Win32 port and hasn't done any work on that port since. 22/03/2005 buggy I'll agree with. The CVS is updated regularly and free to use. I'll just toddle off now and try to compare the windows sheepshaver port compared to via colinux. http://gwenole.beauchesne.online.fr/index.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Here's Basilisk II Win32 Re: System 1
Darren wrote: I'll just toddle off now and try to compare the windows sheepshaver port compared to via colinux. Well theres no ethernet. It runs the Basilisk II images fine, notably the Starter image with OS7.5.5 found on some web sites. Fresh install of 9.0 boots in 12 seconds. Its responsive with BII's speed. Monitor size and colour changing on the fly. Same old rom problem so far, using a 7300's rom so it wasn't a G4 install, no altivac emulation with this rom. Colinux allowed for ethernet but is a pain/education to setup while the speed was not the best. A few more weeks/months will bring a ethernet hack and a new gui I hope. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Mac Monitor on a PC
Manuel Marques wrote: By the way, is Basilisk II compatible with Windows Xp? I've tried everything, finally installed the SDL library but I can't still see the gray screen with the Mac in it! This is driving me nuts!!! Running 8.1 in the background here, running the old 9.x exe rather than the NT exe on XP. Basilisk II is a well documented program, you should be getting a error message pointing you to the problem so a little more detail would be nice. http://www.retrosite.de/emulator/macintosh/BasiliskII_win32_18062000.zip is the old 0.8.0.130 version and does not require the sdl.dll. Read the Readmes in the Windows-specific documents folder and use the Basilisk-GUI.exe to setup and start the emulation. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: System 1
Manuel Marques wrote: Thanks. But I've got one heck of a problem: I'm using SoftMac on a x86 platform (unfortunately, I do not own a nice little modern Mac, my youngest PowerMac is 10 years old ;-) and the mouse keeps showing up in two parts of the screen at the same time. (like it was acessing a floppy drive all the time... but faster) I've tried downloading vMac but I can't run it on my 333 Mhz PC with Windows Xp, and Basilisk for Windows, well... it looks like I can't find it anywhere... Anyone knows the cause of my despair? ;-) Softmac is rubbish. Try MiniVmac, comes with plain vmac. http://www.vmac.org/ Basilisk II wont run below OS7 so thats no good, Look for the win32 or NT port, old port sites have gone. http://gwenole.beauchesne.online.fr/basilisk2/index.html A 333mhz running xp, you want to have some ram behind it. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Cuda button on Color Classic Mac
denimpair wrote: When I first got the color classic, it booted up fine. Then when I tried it the other day, not even the startup bong. - PJ Most likely the battery has failed, check the voltage or replace it if your unsure of its age. Macs enjoy being powered all the time, this increases the battery life by a great deal. You may have got you last bong out of the current battery. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Cuda button on Color Classic Mac
denimpair wrote: I have taken the board out of my color classic and cannot find the cuda button. Does anyone know WHERE it might be located?? _ PJ Just pull the battery and let sit for some time before returning the battery and screwing it back together, a better result than apples half baked cuda if the model even has one. Earlist mac I have with a cuda is a LC475 and that depends on the mobo rev, some do some dont. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Stuffit files that don't work.
Darren wrote: I'll back you up to a point, the version I use here is 3.something deluxe which gets past the lack of res fork for most .sea files and also fits nicely on a disk with other tools as a second boot disk. I dont have enough experience to agree in full, of all the stuffit file types I think the res fork on the first part of a segmented file is far more important than a .sea, of coarse the rest of the segments dont matter. How very apple. Forgot: Stuffit, being what it is, will fail on some files if double clicked but open them if directed from stuffit file option, again how very apple. There's a third way but I cant be bothered explaining it, cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Unix
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Easy choice, the SE/30. Pack it full of 128 megs RAM and a large hard drive. Has there been much progress on 68k Linux lately? Linux is not Unix thank goodness, as Andy is after Unix the best bet would be netbsd if he's after something remotely current, AUX is rather obsolete and has little going for it for the task required. As for your question Gregg, yes the 68k verion on Debain has been updated in the last year. Once you get over the novelty of sitting for minutes waiting from the 68k mac to do things under nix one may come to realize the MacOS is the best OS for these macs, we once had a regular lister on the compact list (where this question belongs?) running a server from a Classic. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: Historical Videos
Marcin Wichary wrote: It's real tempting to add the full set to my Mac collection though I thought $65 was kind of steep. I remember wanting to have those when it was still only a 2 DVD set. :) Does anyone have those and could comment on overall quality? Unfortunately, I'm interested in only a couple tidbits from each (mostly GUI related) and I can't justify plunking $60 for the whole lot at this moment. You after one of this lot? apple-alphabet apple-classic-graph apple-classic-ii apple-classic-indust-rev apple-crocodiles apple-dinosaurs-comm apple-dmcl-diskswapping apple-dmcl-dtpba1 apple-dmcl-dtpba2 apple-dmcl-familycomputer apple-dmcl-filesharing apple-dmcl-macdoesmore apple-dmcl-macvsordinarypc apple-dmcl-powerbookara apple-dmcl-powerbookfaxing apple-dmcl-steps apple-dmcl-voicerecognition apple-education-astronmy apple-education-curveball apple-education-hightide apple-education-internet apple-going-to-work apple-iic-nightmare apple-iie-influences apple-iie-your-children apple-iigs-had-one-of-those apple-iigs-question apple-lemmings-commercial apple-making-it-easier apple-nightmarebeforexmas1 apple-nightmarebeforexmas2 apple-presentationdone apple-quadra-commercial apple-quicktime-intro apple-rivalry apple-the-personal-computer apple-thinkdif-2-roads apple-thinkdif-3-steps apple-thinkdif-ali apple-thinkdif-bunnies apple-thinkdif-email apple-thinkdif-hal9000 apple-thinkdif-ibook-se apple-thinkdif-imac-colours apple-thinkdif-open apple-thinkdif-original apple-thinkdif-picasso apple-thinkdif-seinfeld apple-thinkdif-snail apple-thinkdif-steamroller apple-thinkdif-tank apple-thinkdif-traffic apple-thinkdif-un-pc apple-thinkdir-fastmoredif apple-windows-support bill-gates casper-on-gma-2nd-mar-1992 dogcow-vr jaguar-ichat-expressyourself jaguar-mail-junk jaguar-ontheloose jaguar-sherlock-findyourself jaguar-zoom park spinning-nefertiti stevejobs-1984-fullspeech stevejobs-1984-ibm-comment the-simpsons-newton Total 193mb Maybe not what your after but most of my collection, drop me a line if you wish. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: vintage LC -- too full?
Andrew J. Klyde wrote: My machine: MAC LC system software 7.1 (c) 1983-1992 Total Memory 10,240K Largest Unused Block: 6763K system software 3448K When I open and close other applications (e.g. games) or even repeat the steps I describe above, and I check back in the About this Macintosh drop-down menu, the numbers change -- down to 3386K and largest unused block is down to 6448K. (And I didn't erase/delete anything; I can't delete from the Macrite-created files, which is what I want to do. All of the above refers to the Ram in the LC, your problem is disk space, highlight the drive and get info from the file menu. This will show you the amount of disk space used and the amount available. Also when I look at the files I'm trying to open, I can see the following information: Macrite: 38.4 MB in disk, zero K available. When I first discovered the problem, it said 4K available. Then I tried opening and closing other applications, and when I checked back to the Macrite files, it read 2K available, then zero K. Temp files get made, zero K available means no space left to write to the drive. In a pinch (maybe, I can't tell if you have it on or if you have maxed the ram) you can turn off virtual memory in the Memory control panel, this will free up some space but is only a temparary fix and one which may cause problems with some apps. I know I need to delete, but I can't! Thank you for any enouraging words . . . ANDREW Floppy disks. :) You can replace the hardrive with a bigger one, it's a easy job in a LC and drives are no longer pricey, you will need a scsi cable with atleast 3 plugs so you can format then copy everything off the old drive and onto the new, then remove the old one and close everything. This is a good option as a newer drive will feel quicker but its a bit of work. If you have owned this mac since new without upgrading the 40 hdd and your comfortable with it I'd consider this option first. A external drive is easier again, giving you more space by simply plugging it in at the back of the LC, by pointing virtual memory at the second drive you will gain enough space on the original drive to continue as normal, you also have enough room to copy the games and other data across that are non essential - this means you only turn on the external drive when its needed. These cost more than replacing the internal but can include tape,zip and jazz drives. As Gregg mentioned, make sure your trash has been emptied, this can hold a surprising amount if left for a while. As always his other comments are also good, techtool 1.17 can be found here as a self extracting file ftp://ftp.pcnet.com/pub/mac/utilities/TechTool-v1.1.7.sea Have fun. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: LC using a cable modem and etc..
Neal Wingate wrote: I have a stock LC which I would like to use to get online using a cable modem. I'm willing to upgrade it via Presto Plus (http://www.sonnettech.com/product/presto_plus.html) with an ethernet port . I would like to use System 7.5 so what extensions/drivers/add-ons do I need? As of now I'm using Scientific Atlantic cable modem for Windoze with a Realtek ethernet card. Will the Presto on board 10BaseT port be usable? You can get the LC online, the easiest option would be a second nic in the windows box and a T10 hub, you can then run ICS and share the connection to the mac. In this way either MacTCP or Open Transport can be used on the LC (MacTPC is much lighter on resources which would be important on a plain LC). Direct connection to the cable would require Open Transport, my ISP requires OT2.x or OS8.5 it can be done with less but the instructions are beyond your question. Routers/switches are another option, ICS and a T10 hub is cheap and easy option and your setup to expand your mac collection from the start. As others have pointed out, the Presto upgrade is a bit out of step with todays market, you can spend your money elsewhere and get a better result. I sadly like to upgrade. :) Either way unless you buy a optioned early G3 (10/100Base-T started to become standard finally) the second nic and hub will cover you cheaply and allow you to add to your lan either mac's or pc's. Happy holidays folks. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: IIci Hard Drive
Ian Nixon wrote: Does the drive have somewhere on the outside, Copyright Apple Computer with a black Apple logo? No, but it does have a Quantum Hard Drive, and has formatted it successfully once... Hi Ian when in the partitioning window a all white rectangle denotes a single partition, to make two or more partitions drag the bottom of the rectangle up ( I think there is a llttle block you put the mouse on ) this will leave you with a section of gray, clicking the gray will bring up the partition type screen, after choosing the type you go back to the partitioning window to set the size. Repeat to make more than two partitions. I use the aux hd sc setup but I think the above is correct for your purpose. You can find HD SC Setup (patched) here near the end of the page if you require it http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html or I can send you the res edit hack for drive setup if you require the drive in a newer powermac. Now to wait for Gregg to state the obvious and trump this post, again. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Open Transport for OS 7.5.5
Kyle DePasquale wrote: What is the most recent version of open transport that will work for os 7.5.5? I'm working on one of my IIci's, and I realized earlier today that I never upgraded OT. 1.1.2 available from apple updates 1.1.1 which is installed with 7.5 (?). The next version is 1.1.3 available with OS8 but is not on the retro list for OS7.x Never need more than Mactcp myself unless connecting to appleshare servers via TCP, the newer appletalk client requires TCP/IP. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 uses
Doug McNutt wrote: At 23:23 + 10/19/04, Andy Palmer wrote: I've recently acquired a SE/30 8Mb with ethernet card and am considering various options to put it to use: Your SE/30 will run at least system 7.5.5. You'll need the Connectix Mode 32 INIT. I currently use one as my main file server for a G4 running OS neXt, An 8500 running OS 9.1, a IIFX running OS 7.5.3, and an Intel box running Red Hat Linux. It is FTP enabled using Stairways' NetPresence to support Linux access. The lady friend also gets access via ftp from her Windoze box and a Mac powerbook running OS neXt.. We talk to each other by posting files on the SE/30. An old Mac II chassis, with nothing but the power supply enabled, houses four SCSI disks which are partitioned to give a few gigs of space available to the group. By booting the SE/30 from an external disk I can easily have a spare sitting right beside it. Actually, since I learned to replace the electrolytic capacitors, I haven't used it. For a while the SE/30 also used its serial port to record caller-ID data from the telephone line using a modem and some terminal software. Didn't we catch this the second time you sent it Doug? Having some problems? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 uses
Thomas Burns wrote: Hey guys, Thanks for all your help so far trying to get this old Mac IIci online. I think I solved the Asante nubus card not being recognized by running the IIci through a Linksys switch. It appears to light up on the router. My next question is under the TCP/IP screen it says: Connect via: Ethernet Configure: Manually IP Address: 192.168.1.9 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 Router addrses: 192.168.1.1 Name server addr: ? Search Domains:? Is this correct or do I just set Connect via: Using DHCP server? You'll need the name server, either 192.168.1.1 or the DNS server address from your ISP, on mine its the same as the gateway or router address. DHCP may well be easier for you. Depends on your setup or routers setup. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SE/30 uses
Douglas P. McNutt wrote: Please forgive me. This one should not have fake HTML in it. At 23:23 + 10/19/04, Andy Palmer wrote: I've recently acquired a SE/30 8Mb with ethernet card and am considering various options to put it to use: Your SE/30 will run at least system 7.5.5. You'll need the Connectix Mode 32 INIT. I currently use one as my main file server for a G4 running OS neXt, An 8500 running OS 9.1, a IIFX running OS 7.5.3, and an Intel box running Red Hat Linux. It is FTP enabled using Stairways' NetPresence to support Linux access. The lady friend also gets access via ftp from her Windoze box and a Mac powerbook running OS neXt.. We talk to each other by posting files on the SE/30. Would it not be easier and cheaper to install Netatalk on the RH box. You can then point both Samba and Netatalk shares at a common folder. If the older macs are all ethernet equiped they will be able to share the same lan/folder with OS X and windows. Both the classic macOS, OS X and windows will be able to connect via internet amongst others if you wish. There are several chat clients for all platforms, Hotline would be one ICQ would be another, ect Just a costless thought. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac IIci La Cie HD System Install Problem
Jeff Garrison wrote: on 9/26/04 8:58 PM, David Ricker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Thanks for the suggestions. The HD and also my external have a driver that I think is the HFS 4.3 (it is identified as Apple 4_3) while the original has a drive identified as just Apple Driver, which I believe to be older. Is it possible that this 4.3 driver is too new for the ci? I am guessing this because the external drive will not boot if the internal disc is missing but it will if the internal spins up too slowly. Is there a way to load the older driver? HDSC tools 7.3.5 patched says it is loading a driver but it still comes up 4.3. Dunno for sure, but I always use a third-party formatter first. Then I can switch to the Apple driver. Try that. How bout using 7.3.5 and deleting all partitions, especially the disk driver partition, reboot with the install media and use the disk-tools disk or whatever to set up the drive before the fresh install? There is only the small driver partition that would hold something thats holding you back. Dodgey drive? One of you earlier posts mentions using 7.3.5 to 'format' the drive which I read a few ways, sorry if I have only repeated what you have already tried. I've only required a third party formatter, actually two, to allow me to use a standard Mac 2gb drive that had 9.1 on it. I'm pretty sure it was my own ignorance which caused such need. Got rid of both and formatted (nuked) with 7.3.5. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/hd.html for an ever shrinking list of formatting tools, please return Sir Gamba. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Ned Help Installing OPERA on MAC LC-580
Jeff Garrison wrote: On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 01:03 PM, Robert J. Stevens wrote: I download a copy of OPERA for MAC OS 7.x. I transfered to MAC Via CD then unstuffed with STUFFIT 5.5. Got a folder full of Stuff but not sure how to proceed. I have both IE 3.01 and NS 3.01 on MAC and FreePPP which connects nicely with my ISP. I'm hoping Opera will give me better results. Does anyone know what the latest Versions if IE and NS are that will run with OS 7.6.1 Bob From memory, I.E. 4.5 will, Netscape 4.7 will. I'd avoid Netscape. I've never had any consistent performance with it except for 7.0 which won't work in 7.6.1. iCab's a good bet for 7.6.1. A little slower than most, but very solid. IE 4.01 with a 128bit patch, NS 4.08 as 4.7 is ppc, 68k didn't make it to 4.1 let alone 4.7 try http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html for starters. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: where is the excellent 68k site?
Dwight Hines wrote: ? Tim Maloney wrote: On efnet, join #68kmla. On the web got to http://www.cinemafia.net/68kmla/. Among others. ;) Dont mind Jeff, he's very loyal to LEM. http://www.geocities.com/sosumis_68k_mac/links.html lists many others and saves me the trouble of listing them. :) http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=all or start with http://mac.the-underdogs.org/ if your not on a fast connection, the first link lists all so may take a while. I like this one, not only 68k http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/contents.html Well thats my quota filled for this month, please dont think it ends there, there are many more if you dig a bit. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Olde PC internet
Phil Beesley wrote: On 8 May 2004, at 20:31, Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://users.pandora.be/mydotcom/library/network/wfwdos.htm I guess the real one included a tpc stack? Yes. Try a web search for microsoft network client version 3.0 which throws up lots of possibilities. Ahh, 2.17mb of dossy goodness and I see the plain as day question wasn't lost on you Phil. It even covers the 8088 to a degree. Put it all together and you have wfw (NetBEUI IPX) and no relation to wfw at the time but the only thing I could figure M$ charging a premuim for, tpc, they'd be giving the other stuff away TPC32B is what you wont with 3.11. Now ya think we have helped Jeff out at all? ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Olde PC internet
Phil Beesley wrote: Don't forget Workgroups for DOS 6.x -- an add-on that provided access to WinfW 3.11 shares from DOS. I don't know whether that worked on a 286, however, or even whether it was a corporate customer only product. It was certainly on Microsoft's Select price list in the 1990's. Products like Novell LanWorkplace for DOS provided a good TCP/IP stack that worked under DOS and Windows on a 286 upwards. http://users.pandora.be/mydotcom/library/network/wfwdos.htm I guess the real one included a tpc stack? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIfx Memory, Was: Re: IIsi questions
Terry Mathews wrote: Jeff Walther wrote: The S in SGRAM stands for Synchronous, which means that SGRAM is triggered off of a clock signal. Memory in older machines, which means everything before the Beige G3, is asynchronous which means that the data comes out or goes in based on some relationship to the address and various Enable signals with no clock. In other words, one can't use Synchronous RAM chips in the IIfx without going through the kinds of gyrations that would amount to building a new motherboard for the IIfx. There may be dual ported asynchronous graphics chips around that could be adapted, but any parts of that type are most likely not being manufactured any more. Jeff Walther I realize that, but the IIfx has a CPU clock speed of 40 MHz. Modern, commercially available SGRAM can run at speeds in excess of 260 MHz. Tying the clock pin to the CPU clock should take care of everything nicely. The SGRAM will be available every time the CPU can think. Terry The clock signal is the last in the mac list of priorities, one of the hurdles when running linux particularly with some models. I've a feeling you are up against it as far as your project goes. I wish you the best of luck but think your fx will be waiting for ram while the ram is waiting for something to do. At 80ns there is room for improvement with faster memory if that exists. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: RAM Re: IIsi questions
Gregg Eshelman wrote: In 168 pin DIMMs you have 5 volt FPM, 5 and 3.3 volt EDO and 3.3 volt SDRAM. There may be other configurations. The 5 volt FPM and EDO have the same notch configuration, but they're definitely not the same as any 3.3 volt, and the 3.3 volt EDO and SDRAM have unique notches. Pretty much covers the biege pci macs, the nasty 4400/7220 included while touching on new-world. 72-pin FPM and EDO are more confusing since they dont play well together. What is irksome is the prices being asked now for the 5 volt EDO my Powermac 7300 needs. :P Hmmm, just searched some and found it can support up to a gig of RAM, but OUCH! FPM or EDO its all treated as FPM, once you get 2 or more the 7300 will feel better to use. AU$50 per module, you must be able to do better than that. ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi questions
J.S. Garrison wrote: on 5/4/04 1:19 AM, Powermac at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that older macs have a tendency to take more ram then the same vintage PC, which allows the use of newer OS then the machine was originally built for. Still I could run windows 3.1 quite well on my 386/40 with math coprocessor and 32mb of ram if I wanted to (its used for old dos games and is equipped for that). In the past I have run windows 95 on a high end 486 system, and they generally max out at 64mb of ram. The floppy install of 95 is very handy for this, no IE or Outlook or tpc stack allows for a better targeted system. My oldest mac is a IIfx and runs OS 7.1 or is it 7.01 ok with just 20mb of ram (very hard to find a set of 4 SIMMs bigger then 4mb and too costly even if you did find some). Still even 20mb is more then enough for the programs of that vintage. Agreed, its amazing what you can do with 20mb, its a shame about the ram in the fx, 1990-1992 was the option for 72 pin far off or did apple have a corner of the 64-pin market? ;) Being able to upgrade the memory is nice, if you have the need for it. The memory being an industry standard for its time also helps. I have need of a 16-32mb 72-pin SOdimm, keyway on the side of the pins rather than between them. I found a 16mb only to find it incompatible. The joys of oddball configurations. Hi Jeff. Be THAT as it may, I can't get a 386/40 to email. You have installed a tpc stack? I mean its not that hard. LEM has a lowend pc list which maybe of help. I CAN get a Plus 68k/8Mhz. to email with 4MB of RAM, an external modem and just floppy driven softwares. That must be fun, I'd avoid using anything floppy based on a mac, never ending disk swaps, it would amaze me if my mail servers had the patience to wait. Email is little more than a text editor with a console sending commands to your mail server. A decent term program is a better comparison. Email, web browser, ftp, 68000, Amiga! no problem. Without belittling this fine achievement we should keep in mind that the floppy based machine predates the web, personally I'd fire up the webtv unit instead. If I want to, and it won't last but a minute, I can and HAVE made a Mac Plus websurf with an ancient browser on one disk and connectivity stuff on the other with only 4MB of RAM. What do you browse with on a plus? MacWeb? How many disk swaps would be required for this lot to fly? You wont to compare port speeds? The RAM is sparse in the Plus but the machine and it's GUI tend to show a simple superiority for that era that earned my respect through the ages. So good they changed very little up to 1999 and then had to change the lot. So good everybody has a small part of the classic macos in front of them now. Old pc's and ide macs share the same sorts of memory ceilings, is this a flaw with ide somehow? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Change of List Nanny
Mark Benson wrote: Just to inform you i have relieved Marten van de Kraats as the list nanny. Any queries/reports/suggestions/complaints etc. should be directed to me in future Remember folks, a friendly list is a happy list. Good to have you back, I trust Marten is still with us, he's done a excellent job. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: system6 list post got bounced....
John Niven wrote: I just joined the system6 list, but my first post (below) got bounced (LIST module(list system6) reports: account is full (quota exceeded)). Try again John, I recieved the same reply from all lists over the weekend, someones on holidays. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HP CD-Writer
Anders Anna-Lee Fager wrote: Folks, I'm trying to get a HP CD-Writer+ 8100 to work in a Beige using OS9.2. I'm using Toast 5.2 and it cuts the burning process thanks to an unstable conection. Does anyone have ahint? I know this has been done, so I just need to talk to the right person. Try the PCI list, you might also explain what your doing to get this error and a little more about the mac your working with so people can answer your question a little better. Roxio or whoever owns toast now should have a FAQ to cover this also. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HP ScanJet 4p Mac drivers?
Gregg Eshelman wrote: HP doesn't have Macintosh drivers for their ScanJet 4p on their website, they do have a Macintosh _manual_ in Acrobat format, and they have Windows drivers for 95 through XP. Anyone know where I can dig up the last release of the Mac drivers? Looks like one for the MDM to host since HP refuses to fully support the scanner now. Your search skills need work. ;) Xposted reply. http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/taskPageSelect.jhtml?reg=plc=lc=encc=usprodId=sj4pmcpagetype=setupdocparent=setup it would seem you would use HP Deskscan II image Scanning software for macintosh? http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?reg=plc=lc=encc=usprodId=sj4pmcdocName=bpm15100cat=setup#P9_834 file named SJ185EN.HQX for Deskscan and SJ150EN.HQX ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/scanners/software/ I hope that helps, the hp links may not work but the ftp site has been tested -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Creating startup floppies on a G3/OS 9.2.2 (was: HDs on MacIIsi)
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Haroldo Mauro Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made a mistake on my last message. What happens is when I try to install System 6 on a floppy -- from an installer disk image on the G3 OS 9.2.2 -- I get a message saying I don't have the proper software for installation. There's a Mac version of the Mac Plus emulator VMac at www.vmac.org Basilisk II has been ported to OSX http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bauec002/B2Main.html there may be a classic Mac OS port available somewhere. Another possibility is to get Disk Copy images of 1.44M System 6 install floppies. I don't think Disk Copy 6.3.3 supports 400/800K disks or images. Disk Copy 4.2 does, but then Apple took out support for formatting 400/800K long before OS 9.2.2, dunno about _reading_ them. None of the USB floppy drives will read them. But since you're wanting System 6 on a IIsi, you don't *need* double density disks since it has a 1.44M drive. :) So you could mount the 400K or 800K images then copy the files to 1.44M disks. Under 9.1, 1.44mb Sys6 can be made using Diskcopy 4. Just open and close the system folder to bless it. Diskcopy4 will also make 800k under 9.1 provided a 800k floppy is inserted. You would have to drop back to OS7.5.x to create 400k disks. Without knowing what model G3 and what floppy drive is being used these maybe pointless facts. ;) The problem Haroldo has with the hard drives is you have installed the mac disk driver onto the harddrive from a pci mac which is not being read properly by the si, re-partition the drive when its concected to the si after removing *all* partitions on the drive, mainly the mac driver partition using a 7.5 disktools disk and HD SC Setup - partition - custom. Although the disk is not mounted on the desktop HDSetup should see it on the scsi bus. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Creating startup floppies on a G3/OS 9.2.2 (was: HDs on MacIIsi)
Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: G3/300 beige running OS 9.2.2, a 1.4 floppy inserted on the internal floppy drive. As for the disk image, it is a System 6.0.7 installer, but I am not sure it is for a 800 or 1.4 disk. I'll have to check. And I want to install the system into the floppy in the drive. When the image is mounted, I see, among other icons, the one for the Installer and a System Folder, with its proper icon. When I click on the installer, it tells me I don't have the proper hardware to proceed with the installation, even though the selected installation volume is the 1.4 disk in the floppy drive . So I dragged the System Folder from the mounted disk image to the floppy in the drive. The System Folder looses the icon. I try to bless it by opening and closing it; by dragging the Finder out and in again; but nothing works. http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/ And pick your preferred language then the path resembles this.. http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_6.0.x/ There is no 6.0.7 but 6.0.8 will do the job. Then you can copy the image over to the si to test. The 6 images of 6.0.7 that I have are all 800k. The problem Haroldo has with the hard drives is you have installed the mac disk driver onto the harddrive from a pci mac which is not being read properly by the si, That is exactly what happened. I re formatted with FWB software and it apparently placed IIsi compatible disk drivers in them, because they're working now. Personally I'd use Apples formatting tools wherever possible, but as long as its working... :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How about a 64MB chip in an LCIII?
Mark Benson wrote: Yeah there is a way to clock chip the LC III (I've done it myself) All it requires is the movement of a tiny chip-resistor (2 soldering irons, tweezers, and a steady hand!). It registers at 33MHz and is stable enough. 10 minute job. Care to take some pictures? Could do with that one as a turtorial in writing... http://homepage.mac.com/schrier/lciii.html no pics though. 64mb works fine in a Blizzard on the Ami. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
J.S. Garrison wrote: And again, as in my other recent email, I misspoke about I.E. 4 for Mac. It's only for Power Macs. Would you please explain this since you have written it twice or is it just your personal opinion? There is a IE4.0.1 fat installer and a 68k installer, neither are hard to find as I've posted a link to them at least twice in this thread. The 128bit patch is almost impossible to find, the link on gambas page is by far the easiest place to start a search. IE4.0.1 also includes a download manager that decodes hqx and bin files and has many of the features found in 5.1 like the side tabs. I see little difference but then I'm using a Aqua theme. By default IE loads the completed page in one go, it waits for all the pictures to be downloaded before displaying the page. This behavior can be changed in the prefs and should be if your on a slow connection otherwise you can wait for a long time looking at a blank screen thinking its a poor browser. IE4.5 was the first ppc only IE version. NS4.08 was released in 98, the final ppc version 4.8 was released in 02. After the poor version 6 using the new engine (it has some good points) NS needed to save face somehow. Hard to spot a difference between 4.76 and 4.8, just more of the same. The 4.08 full file may appeal to some as it contains the AOL instant messenger client along with all the other bits and pieces that make up the NS program family. One option missing is Netscape Conference. Big deal. There is no Java support in NS4.0x, limited and rather useless support is included in the 3.04 gold browser. Java. MRJ 1.0.2 is found on the OS8 cd and installs on OS7.1 with a 030, ignore apples readme yet again. IE4 will attempt to display java content once this is installed. NS ignores Java on 68k. On a pc there are many add-ons like crazy browser or my current favorite MyIE2 that add the functions found in Moz like tabbed browsing. Whether these work under win3x, who cares? Whatever you choose to use is a personal choice. Far better to keep a open mind and try them all if possible. They all have pro's and con's, I have supplied a res edit hack for NS in the past. ;) Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
Mark Benson wrote: Ignoring all that off topic stuff Marcin, its a 68k list so windows 3.1 is about as close to topic as possible and that would require a 040. I think you will find the parallel equivalent to an 040 is a 486, which will run Windows 95 happily, and thus IE 5.1 (maybe) A pentium will run 5.5 and speed up the windows function, its not a huge jump up from a decent 486 which I haven't tried. Please explain how a 040 has a ice cubes hope in hell of running 5.1? Softwindows 1 will run Win3.1 on a 040, and possibly 3.11 but that where the fat lady sings. Shall we chat about the wonders of Cyberdog? Not here, becuase it doesn't run on a 68k Mac :) Only cause no one wants to use it, Gamba used to recommend it for service links at one stage and I got that to work on 68k so find Gamba and tell him to remove this http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html#CD Version 1.1 (68k) Version 1.1.1 (68k) Version 2.0a2 (68k) Version 2.0b1 (68k) Version 2.0 (68k) Ask your Dad, he might remember. Apples last effort at making a browser, Safari is a port, well half a port. Its a shame it doesn't included all of the features of its parent program. I think you need to read up on Safari's background... Give us a link then buddy? See half a port mate? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Cyberdog
http://www.cyberdog.org/dogbones/#apple A interesting program. Hard to use well now as the web out grew it. Still worth a play. Like any app made by Apple it has some features you wont find anywhere else. No Java script, but java and a host of plug-ins. I believe another lister may have been confused because Cyberdog is a OpenDoc app and OpenDoc is usually unavailable to 68k using, say the OS8 installer from memory, I wont even try to remember 7.6, I have a 7.5 68k install cd coming so I'll check that. OpenDoc requires a 030 or greater for version 1.2 and is available from apples older software site here's the readme: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/OpenDoc/OpenDoc_1.2_Info.txt CyberDog 2.0 (68k) and its ppc sister can be found in the link up top, you might grab the Y2K patch which is fairly rare also. The remaining link on gambas browser page still works other version numbers are harder to find. I enjoyed my use of cyberdog, alot more than just a browser as any opendoc app has always more than just one use. I've only tried it on 040's. For a nice read about Cyberdog try http://www.cyberdog.org/articles/grimsley/thinkcd/index.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
Marcin Wichary wrote: : They really said that, since they are no longer developing IE as a : standalone product, future versions of it will appear in future : versions of Windows. True, but I think they retracted that comment a day or a couple of days later... since Longhorn (Windows XP successor) will hit the shelves in what? 2005? 2006? 2007? 2008? Longhorn is already doing the rounds in a Alpha form, I have seen a copy. It installs over the top of XP. But by 2008 OSX should be out of beta. Marcin, its a 68k list so windows 3.1 is about as close to topic as possible and that would require a 040. Shall we chat about the wonders of Cyberdog? Apples last effort at making a browser, Safari is a port, well half a port. Its a shame it doesn't included all of the features of its parent program. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
Ricardo L. A. Bánffy wrote: They really said that, since they are no longer developing IE as a standalone product, future versions of it will appear in future versions of Windows. Let's not forget the browser wars are over. I use Firebird on my PCs and Unixes (including OSX), but I am in the company of less than 1% of the computer users) They actually said much more than that. http://news.com.com/2100-1045-1017126.html Microsoft does not have access to the Macintosh operating system that it would need to compete . with Safari, as you can see its old news. Konqueror has replaced the mozilla mess for me on Linux, yet to try Firebird. As anyone can see this pc uses Moz. Since MS does not expect any competition from Netscape or Mozilla. Even if Safari takes 100% of the Macintosh installed base, that means only 3% of the overall market. M$ will always have competition on the windows platform. Marcin Wichary wrote: : IE 5.1 is the last version for pre-X OSes. There has been IE : 5.2.something for awhile now under OS X. 5.1.x for ppc classic and 5.2.x for X, no where to go really, sorta like Appleworks huh? True, but it's also true that Microsoft issued a statement that it won't develop any further Internet Explorer versions... It was right after Safari was published. So how much like Konqueror is Safari. ;) You'd use a skin on that one for sure. M$ have little reason to continue work on IE once the 5 year deal ended. WoW - tabs now, what will they do next? Then again, at one point they told that Internet Explorer 6.0 is the best browser ever to be, and it won't be developed more, 'cause it's just perfect as it is. :) (I'm exaggerating a little bit, but someone from MS really told something to that extent, which of course was corrected the next day or so.) Hehe, who'd believe it. Outlook express is the safest email client ever built if its never installed. IE4.0.1 is the end of support for 68k which is as far as we need to go here, thankfully the browser wars will never end on 68k macs. ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MS will not be suporting IE
david wrote: This may be OT if so I apologize in advance. In researching compatable operating systems verifying that the available versions of IE would work with them I discovered that Microsoft will NOT be overing any later versions of IE beyond 5.1 Also support will end for al MAC IE products within one year. I guess Apple pissed them off. M$ has just released office 2004 apart from many other mac produts including VPC. Where's Appleworks for the mac, I've been waiting a long time. IE5.1.x was the last for the classic OS just as Moz 1.3 or 4. whatever and NS7.1 something was the last, sorry no mac up to check version numbers. OS10.3 doesn't run well if at all on so many macs it deserves the the title new world or new mac? The fact its the last has been well known for a good amount of time now and I dont see it as a great surprise, there's no IE for nix. ;) You may find a browser for X from M$ later on when the mac finally settles, whats wrong with Safari or that skinned browser? Why does a mac user care when a most degraded (by rep) product reaches a end and since IE is part of windows why should you get a browser for free from M$, I paid for mine or so I'm told. ;) I wonder what Apple hasn't made available thats required by M$ for the next IE version release, nah, nothing to do with it. All said with a smile, I dont really know or care. IE5 doesn't run on 68k macs, a shame you cant skin it on a compatible mac (oldworld) the same as you can on a pc, frankly M$ support for many of its old line is coming to an end. Thats not a bad thing as some things are beyond repair in the end. ;) IE5.1 is actually my browser of choice for ppc macs, silly me. Very Off-topic, flame me offlist please Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Internet Connectivity on a PowerBook 170
Glenn McGaha Miller wrote: I'm trying to get email and possibly web browsing working on my PowerBook 170. Downloaded ClarisEmailer and iCab. As far as I can tell I also need something called InternetConfig based on the iCab readme, but I can't seem to locate it. Oh, I should mention that the 170 is running 7.0.1 at the moment anyways. Can anyone give me a hand or at least let me know if I'm barking up the wrong tree? http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html read the bit under browsers and download the three mentioned or install IE which installs these for you. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac LC II and a LC 580 I'm A Newbie with MACS
Robert J. Stevens wrote: I Inherited a Mac LC II and a friend brought me a LC 580. I got both running but having been a PC user fixer for many Years I'm not real familier with the MAC's. Is there a good source for a Tutorial. All I have is the Getting Started Manual for the LC II. Plus System Floppies and some Games, CD's etc. The LC II has some Games. Would be good for the Kids but I have to learn more about running and Maintaining the MAC's. Got a couple of Quadra's also plus a MAC PLUS. Got some older Apples 2, 2C, and a GS plus lots of Drives, Monitors, couple keyboards. Got to get them all checked out and running Any Help will be appreciated TIA Bob in Wisconsin For a different spin you might try http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/contents.html as its was writen with emulation in mind it may be more up you alley until you get mac speak down pat. No a all in one site like some but maybe useful -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Newest OS that will work on a PwerMac 7200
david wrote: What is the last , latest, or is it newist OS that the Power Mac 7200 will function with. Let me clarify function. By function I expect it to work at a reasonable speed without bogging down. I had a PC that was running Windoz95 and it ran nicely then I upgraded to Windoz98 and it runs like a slug. Does the answer belowthat mean I should take questions regarding a Power Mac 7200 to another group? If so what is the address for the group? Thanks david Off topic Dave. It will do 9.x but it will struggle, try 8.5.1 or 8.6 for a sweet spot with 8.6 being the better of the two. *.1 is a bit of a dog on these macs Try the powermac list, dont mention the pc over there, very thin skinned over there. http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml If you upgraded 95 to 98, thats would be why it ran like a slug. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Young kids software for an LC520
David Bilenkey wrote: Wondering if anyone can point me to an online source for some games for what was once my wife's LC520. It's now my 4 year old's computer and while pretty much fine for his needs (speed and size wise) it's lacking in educational software or edutainment or just plain old games. Anyone now of any good links? Any help appreciated. http://mac.the-underdogs.org/index.php?show=all Macintosh garden, full listing so you may need to wait for the page to load -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII problems
Vanessa Stern wrote: I should have said that the update to 7.6.1 was done over 4 years ago and the machine has run flawlessly up to now. The internal drive has been getting noisier over time. I think the problem began when we had a brief power outage, so maybe something was screwed up when the power came back on. I'll have to check if it's an Apple drive. I believe the drive was upgraded from the original. I'm fairly sure that it was formatted with Apple software. I used to be fairly good with Macs, but have been away from them for several years now. I need baby steps. Where is the setup utility? Nothing I've tried so far will recognize the drive at all. Vanessa grab a disk tools floppy image from gamba's site and a version of apples hd sc setup (patched). Boot from the floppy and see if any of apples lame formatting tools can get around the problem before trying other disk tools like lido if you must. Most of what you need can be found on one of the links below. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/hd.html I must ask what is the wrong version of 7.6.1, I mean if it ran this system before it can't be a ppc version so what other wrong version of 7.6.1 can it be? The best way to format a mac drive is with a pc and it doesn't take forever and a day to do, if you have access to a pc with a scsi card then nuke the drive completely, test it with real formatting tools and the initalize on the mac. If its the only mac you have and can not therefore make a disk tools disk, drop me a line off list, Ill send you a image that you can make on another platform and then boot the mac. As I've said before, Gamba's site is a excellent resource, its almost time we passed the hat around for someone who doesn't ask and who takes pride in keeping the site up to date and the links valid. Since he's not around at present I thought it was a fair time to put forward this suggestion, thanks Gamba. If the drive was stuffed there would be no message. Noisey hard drives may just be fragmentation, age and reaching capasity. Some drives just get noisey like one of the imacs here (never again imac) Please boot from a floppy and see what there is to see before thinking the disk has gone to god. Best of luck. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII problems
John Niven wrote: I wrote that before Vanessa revealed that the OS 7.6.1 installation was done over 4 years ago and the machine has run flawlessly up to now. :-) Older OS versions would either let you do an easy instal or customize. If you choose customize you get a list a Macs that you could select from. That leads me to believe that different code is loaded for different Macs. No? Very good point, thank you John. Its a screen I use alot and I should have known better. The best way to format a mac drive is with a pc and it doesn't take forever and a day to do, if you have access to a pc with a scsi card then nuke the drive completely, test it with real formatting tools and the initalize on the mac. Fascinating! How does a PC format differ from an Apple one? What tools would you use on a PC? Could you bring it down a level and be more specific than nuke the drive, so we can learn something? First thing that springs to mind is the fact you can see progress, there is no question as to whether the formatting has hung. You see where disk errors have occured and any pattern, from any pattern you can determin the life of the drive. One is not left in the dark after a extended period of inactivity. The programs you would use are many and varied, the pc you use may add its own limits or advantages. The nanny will not be happy if I proceed. Nuke the drive is the same, more or less to nuke and pave a very mac comment. Format the disk to remove the Apple partitions, thats 4? tiny ones that hold the info the mac needs to talk to the drive and where I feel the trouble is in Vanessa's case, along with everything else and start again from a raw drive. The cart is now before the horse as any talk of formatting should be left until a disk tools floppy atleast has been run. The fact that the drive appears to be read is a good sign it can be saved. If the drive can't be accessed the mac would show a flashing ? While I will not offer Diskworrier I can offer nortons if all else fails, floppies are good. I'm a truck driver, I dont teach. ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mystery card
Ricardo L. A. Bánffy wrote: Where can I download tattletech? http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/4395vid=4410mode=info is a fair place to start. Your local info-mac mirror is both mac friendly and searchable and should turn up atleast version 2.58 Love reading the comments on some of these classic tools from the G set. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need help with macintosh IIci
Ricardo L. A. Bánffy wrote: Seems nobody asked that: Do you have access to a CD-ROM/CD-R/CD-RW drive with a SCSI interface? You could then start the computer with a CD-ROM instead of the floppy. A CD image is much easier to make. I also experienced weird start-up problems when a client insisted on attaching a parallel printer to the Macintosh external SCSI port. Darren wrote: A very good point but does just any scsi cdrom boot a vintage mac? I have a few vintage and classic's and none have a cdrom, no real need with a network. The 7.5 disk tools contents are copied across to the initialized hdd, you can then boot from the hdd. From the second disk you add the cdrom extension to the system folder to access the cd if you can not boot from one naturally. As there is room on the second floppy, including stuffit lite 3.6 allows you to install a free OS, transfered from the pc in its .bin state or disk copy segmented files, rather useful. Change the 7.5 DT to 6.0.8 for older macs or to the 8.1, 8.5 tools image for powermacs, pretty much covers lowend and also makes a good minimal system for booting into nix. I guess a third network floppy could be used to make transfer easier from basilisk on the pc but not every vintage mac has ethernet or cdrom. Like rawrite I've had no success with the 7.5 network disk image, like rawrite that doesn't mean it wont work. Why they all can't boot from a rom disk like my beloved classics is beyond me. :) There is something satisfying about networking the classic to basilisk after booting from rom. Maybe the printer had the wrong OS installed. ;) I hope Peet has luck with one of the suggestions in this thread, hopefully without waiting on a snail mail floppy. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mystery card
Philip Stortz wrote: TattleTech will tell you a lot, it's shareware/freeware. however, if you look at the chips and see who made the main ones, generally any driver for that chipset will work. of course ethernet cards can go bad like any other card, hopefully that's not the problem. a photo posted with a link sent to the list would really help. You must have missed the start of the thread: http://www.utopia.com.br/rbanffy/whatisthiscard.jpg Good luck. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIsi the internet
david wrote: I have a IIsi that I'm trying to setup for my mom so she can do her email. She is 88 and just started the email two years ago. I'm tired of fixing PCs so I brought my old IIsi out of retirement. Maybe just fix the pc's once and you wont have so much trouble. ;) I'm running 7.6.1 and think that is ok. I only have 17 megs of ram though. ;-( As you would know, macs love ram, the more the merrier. What is the latest version of Internet Explorer that will work with 7.6.1? And where can I get it? 7.6.1 seems to be a over looked OS on this list, maybe because it isn't free or because its a little more resource hurry than the lesser os'es. IE4.01 128bit, Gamba's website is a good place to check as its becoming hard to find elsewhere. The fat installer is about 2.7mb and another 700k for the 128bit upgrade, needed for internet banking and so forth. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html Check out both the other pages and the file tree's of the ftp links. Excellent resource. I tried netscape 4.x on G4 running 9.0 but Hotmail doesn't really like it. Some of the features don't work. Its a broad description NS4.x 68k support stopped at 4.08 while the closest version that may work on a G4 would be 4.9. Versions below these point marks have a few bugs. I'd ask what features didn't work but its OT for this busy list. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A dead IIci?
Norbert van Bemmel wrote: Can anyone help me? 'Sad Macs, Bombs andother Disasters' (3rd edition 1997) has a section on hardware, but doesn't mention this problem. I assume you zapped pram? (Marco van de Voort) Well, one has to be able to boot to zap pram, huh! So I didn't do that. But the thing might as well work again with the cache card after zapping PRAM so: Well battery removal zaps the pram more effectively than a key combo. Leave it out for a amount of time as a last resort to clear pram/cuda related illness. Symtoms include no startup sound or video. good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Marten van de Kraats wrote: Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. It is not (I'm pretty sure) upgrading to OS X 10.3 that did id, but might maybe 10.3.1? Connecting to both my OS X Boxes using the 'Server IP addess' button in Chooser *did* work until I tried it today. Having updated several boxes (mac and pc) to yet another free release of mdk I'm having no trouble appletalking. Got what I paid for. :) As most of the macs covered by this list lack the ip address button in the chooser Im happy to say that its not required on this lan. Except for the original Mac II and the LC (both 68020 Macs) all the Macs supported by this list can connect to a file server via tcp/ip and are compatible with a version of the appleshare client software that puts the 'ip adress' button in the chooser. What version is required to get the ip address button, I have no need for it and would like to point out that that Mark shouldn't either. Original where possible on my on topic macs. 3.8.x? Apple really are trying their damnedest to kill AppleTalk The entire classic OS, if they dont support you why support them with 2 paid OS releases each year? They did not kill the classic os, it is still a part of their new OS and probably will remain so for years to come because there is nothing to gain from dropping the support, on the contrary. BTW It is one paid OS update each year. Still quite a lot.. .Must be the reason why Apple is the only pc manufacturer, apart from Dell, which isn't bleeding money. My mistake, what was it 18 months between Jaguar and Panther? Close for pay to play but fair enough for pray for speed as the case may be. I believe Apple delivered this time round. No one would cry over the loss of dell, mac heads would have to find another company to bash while the pc community rejoice, I guess that wont happen soon. Meanwhile, Apple really shouldn't turn a loss now, all things considered. With no osX here I cant offer more advise than to double check your network settings. Its not a osX list after all. It is not, but connecting vintage macs to OS X macs is pretty much on topic, just like connecting vintage macs to linux boxes, windows 2000 fileservers etc. And I am pretty sure this list has more unix savvy people than all other lem lists combined. Are all mac folk now counted as Unix savvy? LOL I am not sure if a Mac 7200 crammed in a IIcx box is standard issue for this list, but that is a different issue altogether. 7100 rather than 7200, lets get the all important form factor right. Can't imagine why not, other upgrade paths are classed as on topic on other lists while bearing little in common with the list subject. The 7100 is vx factor and as such fits in a backwards god NO sorta way. My netatalk setup did have a small problem with the server being listed in the macs chooser, this was corrected with the firewall settings or one of the server configs. In this case the ip address button on a ppc would still work as you described. Sorry I can't be more helpful Mark. Its so nice to have the old and new nanny in the same thread again, now where's the traffic? All in fun folks. :) Cheers. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: On the death of a IIfx
Marten van de Kraats wrote: For anyone who wondered what the life expectancy is of IIfx without a fan, I have the answer: it is short. I have tried it with a modified IIfx (no hard disk (major heat producer), very lowend video card and enough holes to get rid of heat), it didn't work. The strain on the psu was just to much. It took the machine about 3 weeks to die. Vintage macs that can work without a fan are the LC, the LC II and the IIsi, as has been proofed by myself and other people. I am going to look for a IIsi now. PSU Marten? couldn't you just replace it or does that just bring you back to the fan noise again? I've often wondered why upgraded aio mac users insist on running a internal psu, limiting space and adding heat when compared to a external psu which would require the fitting of a plug. Maybe its a mac thing or is it some psu wierdness, anyone looked at the option as there are many fanless external psu's available? stupid question would be an acceptable answer. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 8.1 to OS X AppleTalk
Mark Benson wrote: On Nov 20, 2003, at 08:08 am, Mark Benson wrote: Having done nothing in particular to my 7100cx I now can't mount any OS X Based AppleTalk shares that require a password, it just tells me the password is wrong. I should just add that I can mount the ~/Public folders on both machines so it's not a protocol issue, it's something to do with Authentication. In this case the target folder or parent folder permissions may be set wrong. A problem with uid, gid somewhere? I hope that has some use under osX. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: booting from CDROM
Marco van de Voort wrote: Large or small is not a problem. I just need something that can be an origin, to format/partition a HD, install MacOS and get the rest of the utils (stuffit/booter/mac68k distro) from CD, without having to rely on a mac HD somewhere on a shelf (that might die), or reverting to slow and unreliable floppies. What goes opps? :) Well, the bit of info Gregg left out may have been this http://web.archive.org/web/20020620094428/http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/downloads/System7.5.3-CD.img.bin http://web.archive.org is a very handy place when searching for a site or download from a site that no longer exists on the web but which you have a link for. Better than google for alot of stuff, you still need google ect to find the dead links. ;) The file is a diskcopy image containing a rather large system folder, stuffit 5.5 and the bog standard 7.5.3 apple disktools. http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/hd.html will supply you with more tools which you can load from the floppy or add to the image to use once the cd has booted the machine. The selection of bootdisks available at gambas site are small enough http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/bootdisks.html to compare the different versions of system tools. The image uses System B1-7.5.3 I use the 7.5 and 7.6 Disk tools a bit. I'm happy to post them as they zip down very well and can be inflated on either nix or doze and then used in the mac to boot. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: booting from CDROM
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the bit of info Gregg left out may have been this http://web.archive.org/web/20020620094428/http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/downloads/System7.5.3-CD.img.bin Pshhh! I wanted to leave the student something to do on his own. ;) I led him to the sink, he's capable of getting out a cup and turning the faucet. :) How did that go, give a man a fish and he eats for a day, show a man to the fish and chip shop and he can grab fish and chips or just plain fish or maybe he could just have a burger and a dim sim, some crab sticks or a chicko roll. I miss pickle. ;) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: booting from CDROM
Marco van de Voort wrote: I know there are some older MacOS versions downloadable. Is any of them in ISO format? There was a 7.5.3 CD image linked to this page http://www.graphixmad.plus.com/mac_troubleshooter/downloads.html 3/4 the way down but it seems to have been deleted. Hopefully someone has another link for it so Gamba can update his. The file is 9mb, a mac image and can be segmented and sent to you. (I mainly want to make a bootCD with a minimal MacOS + MacOS install data+ some typical utils, currently I do that by dd'ing images from/to SCSI HDs, but CDs would be easier. I've no Mac with burner capacity ) Further down the page there are Amiga bootable hardfiles. The shapeshifter filedisk can be extracted and renamed something.hfv making it useful for basilisk. This in turn can be useful if you have a burner on another platform. The hardfile is little more than a floppy boot disk's system folder with stuffit4 on it which you can make yourself and is about as minimal as your going to get on a cd. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
John Niven wrote: As you are on cable I guess you are behind a router of sorts, there's a fair chance it accepts a static address. This is true at home. In fact I have a Linksys cable/DSL router that does dhcp for my home network (and acts as a firewall IFAIK). I could turn that off, but currently it just doesn't matter because I simply use MacTCP to set a fixed ip address that's a long way from the number the dhcp starts at. This is not a problem. My router is a linux box which doles out dhcp for the mac of the week and happily copes with many different platforms running static address. I wouldn't consider the purchase of any router that doesn't, actually I wont buy what I can make. :) Makes a good file, print, game server among other uses. What is a problem, is when I take a guest Mac of the week to work :-) Here we use a dhcp server for everything except the unix boxes. So I'd have to request a static ip address. I'm sorry and will possibly learn something if I ask why a mac static address would be different to a unix static address. I often hook up guest machines without needing to configer the router. There is a problem if the static address is of a different range to my lan but appletalk will still function in this case. OT is needed if dhcp is the only option. Its also better supported and basicly easier, more mac like to use. So last night I tried one of my IIci with 7.1, then update 3.0. I downloaded OT 1.1.1 and OT 1.1.2 from the apple web site (you only need install disks 1 2 - 3 4 are for PPC). These loaded OK. Then I added the drag and thread manager extension (also on the Apple web site) and the iCab web browser :-) Kewl, saves me making 4 images. Drag and Thread manager comes with either IE or NS, cant recall which or if its both. I'm not a great fan of icab, if it works for you then thats all that matters. My Linksys router recognized my IIci, assigned it an ip address, and a name server, and I was web browsing (admittedly slowly :):) Cool! Not as cool as OS 6 but ... The bit of dhcp I'm not fond of is when you move the mac away from the lan and sit through the extremely long pause as OT decides whether the network exists and issues a static address. For me a static address is far easier for most conditions. A little more work that is worth it if you need to look at logs, firewalling or just bug fixing. Makes life easier for network gaming. :) Now if only OS 6 could handle OT and/or dhcp Wont mactcp, I mean do you really need dhcp? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
John Niven wrote: Darren, Somehow you seem to be missing the point. I'm sure your linux box is wonderful for your HOME needs, but my problem is that I do not run the network at my work. So I either have to make my guest Macs work with my WORK dhcp server (i.e. use OT) or I have to go to my MIS group and get them to assign a static address (then use MacTCP). No doubt i could do that - but then it seems like I have to make a concession for an old Mac :-P Missed by a mile as usual. I caught the use of home a couple of times but missed a reference to work. No doubt there's some reason a static address wont work as easily with your MIS group as it does with ICS. I believe it's the case that if I arbitrarily assign my Mac a static ip address, then the server is likely to, at some point, dole out the same address to somebody else and then we will all be in trouble. I fail to see why this would happen, a easier accident would be the address is doled out before the mac is fired up. Logicly every dhcp server starts at either 0 or 255 and works up or down in steps of two, if there are only 100 machines likely to connect then your mac would use an address at the other end of the range to limit the chance of collision or plain odds and evens as I sometimes use. One other thing - I bet my router uses less power, and takes up less space :-) A small plus, granted. Neither are major concerns, the server runs 24/7, if you ran one on your home lan I'd be winning :-P Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC vs. LC 475
Marten van de Kraats wrote: I'm no expert on this, I think the only 68k Mac that can be brought forward to a PPC is the Quadra 800, and that takes saving the upper case, throwing out the rest and putting the upper case on a PM 8500. The back and the bottom will not work on a 8500. (I tried years ago, and bought the mobo and higher output power supply, but could not find the case bottom.) Ahum. There is a ppc update for the IIci. And I am pretty sure the 800 isn't the only quad that can be upgraded with a ppc processor. The Q650 runs a 601 and 8.6 nicely thanks, just adding one more form factor. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Media 100 cards
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Where might I find the software for a two card NuBus Media 100 setup? There's no external breakout cable with the cards. Anyone ever do a schematic? The Media 100 website now has zero info on the old NuBus cards. :P http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2759928494category=4601 Not real helpful, might be worth a email? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: NuBus Media 100 cards
Gregg Eshelman wrote: Not real helpful, might be worth a email? Might go cheap but shipping to the USA would be a PITA. Bt, it'd be fun to dink around with on the Radius 81/110 I can't seem to even give away, not even with the UMAX flatbed scanner and HP 1200C PS printer. Yes it might go cheap, the aussie $ is half of the US$ ;) I could proxy for you if you wish. Shipping from Oz is about 25% that of shipping from the states with no hidden extras after the item has been delivered. We grabbed a pc card and some simms for the price of postage from a kind soul in the states, $220 later the kind soul gets hit with another charge, could have bought a imac for the price the bits cost in the end. Sadly the type of mac it suits is on my dont have list or I'd grab it myself. Sorry my search for the software has turned up very little but I thought the photo of the dongle and external board might be of interest to you. Cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
Christopher Shustak wrote: Well, the enet card for my Apple LCIII arrived today, and I installed same this afternoon. The OS is already OS7.1, so I think I'm set there. The memory went in last week. The floppy that came with the card talks about ethertalk, which I'm guessing is appletalk over twisted pair. I need to install TCPIP, so that I can at least get the LC on a network, to download a web browser, a ping utility, and an email program. I believe that I need to find a copy of Open Transport 1.2.2 to run on OS 7.1. I have a cable modem, so I don't need PPP or modem dialing capabilities. How do I get the Open Transport software to the Mac? I have an Ibook, but it lacks a floppy. My IBM PC has a floppy, but it won't read a floppy that's been formatted on the LC. The Enet card came with a floppy for Ethertalk, but I believe that this is appletalk, and not TCPIP. I'm also not sure if the LC will even talk to an OSX Ibook. I love it. :) Nullmodem, this contains its own set of problems. Get the thing to talk to X :) all good fun if the network card doesn't work. Ask nice and I'll post you the needed OT1.1.1 and OT1.1.2 update as 8 floppy images you can make on the pc then load into the mac, easy if you have 8 known good floppies and RaWriteWin, rawrite or the dd command in linux (X?). dd if=diskx.img of=/dev/fd0 On windows or nix the floppy isn't read until accessed so writing a mac disk on a pc is easy with the right image. (well not the same as the mac) There are other ways, you should get away with mactcp and a static connection but thats another story. Good luck -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LCIII. Enet arrived. How to get software on a floppy.
John Niven wrote: Actually I never tried because: 1) Many people are so adamant that Classic networking was better than OT. 2) the only free version (from Apple) is 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 and these say: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Open_Transport/ I don't have OT 1.1 :-( Hi John, see above So does it work to go from NO open transport to 1.1.2? No, 1.1.2 updates the bugs in 1.1.1 ;) As you are on cable I guess you are behind a router of sorts, there's a fair chance it accepts a static address. If so mactpc is lightweight, less likely to corrupt and a pita to setup. I'm very happy with it on all of the 68k macs on this little lan. OT is needed if dhcp is the only option. Its also better supported and basicly easier, more mac like to use. OT 1.x.x has flaws that aren't corrected until OS8.5+ and OT 2.X but im not able to explain it properly. I'm trying to say you may have trouble connecting OT 1.1.2 to your cable modem directly to some dhcp servers, depending on your ISP. I my case I could get around this with a static address which brings us back to mactpc. ;) cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Test
Michael Day wrote: Did I pass??? ;-) Crabola No. You left the footers on. Makes you wonder. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: just rejoined the list; have a few questions
Scott Holder wrote: Most people agree that BSD is better for serious boxes but Linux has somewhat wider support and knowledge, plus Debian is pretty popular in and of itself with lots of documentation. I need to try MacBSD on a box one of these days. I just got this nice Quadra 610 system for $10 from a thrift store too.. http://www.barrybrown.us/altOS.html is missing one or more but its a good line up of what will work on both ppc and 68k. Kinda like squeak myself. http://www.macunix.net:443/ was a good link for 68k unix info but its content may be a little dated, you may find something interesting. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: just rejoined the list; have a few questions
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Kinda like squeak myself. This Squeak? http://www.squeak.org Runs on Mac OS 7.5 through 9.2.2 plus OSX with Carbon and Cocoa, Windows 95 and up, Unix, Linux, BeOS, NeXT, NeXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, DOS, OS/2, Acorn RISC OS, Sharp Zaurus, Windows CE, and DEC Itsy. The Itsy project is now owned by Compaq. http://research.compaq.com/wrl/projects/itsy/ All specifications and software are FREE so you can build your own Itsy PDA. Yep that one, comes up in a window. Very nice in a old mac sorta way, bit geeky. Works well on ppc, still trying to get it to run on 68k. :( The 3.5 version might not be 68k compatible? Least I cant get it to work, error -192. Squeak 2.1 is the highest 68k compatible version I've tried so far from ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/Smalltalk/Squeak/ but I've only started looking. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Squeak Re: just rejoined the list; have a few questions
Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 3.5 version might not be 68k compatible? Least I cant get it to work, error -192. Yep, that's the Hey, this app has no 68K code in it! error code you get when trying to run PPC only stuff on 68k. Be nice if the message said just that. I've come accross this error, once or twice, before. ;) Squeak 2.1 is the highest 68k compatible version I've tried so far from ftp://st.cs.uiuc.edu/Smalltalk/Squeak/ but I've only started looking. Version 3.0 works with a version 2 image, so its something in the image giving me a error 20. ;) cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: just rejoined the list; have a few questions
J.S. Garrison wrote: And the version of mklinux that works on 68k is? Or is the lack of a responce enough to say you were wrong again? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: just rejoined the list; have a few questions
Scott Holder wrote: And the version of mklinux that works on 68k is? Or is the lack of a responce enough to say you were wrong again? Coming in a little late on this but as far as I know, mklinux is just PPC. That's what the site says anyway. The only pre-made Linux I know of that'll run on 68k is Debian. I hope Jeff isn't wrong, there is a little info about 68k installs but I've found nothing worth quoting. PPClinux also has a 68000 folder containing a linux booter, why is something I'm not sure of. If mklinux worked it would be a much easier setup than other 68k options for a newbie. cheers -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
Sandra Coolsen wrote: Hi, its me. were is a good place for used apple II software? i.e. games, word processing, other 5 inch floppy stuff. ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/ is a good place to start. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Star NL 10
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know wether it is somehow possible to print to this thing (star nl 10 matrix printer) from a Mac running a macintosh system? Didn't Word 3.x ship with a bunch of unusual Chooser drivers included? Chucks-printer-drivers of any use? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
68k Mklinux which version Jeff?
I haven't heard anybody mention MK Linux. It's a self-setting, dual boot app. that brings up a trial version of Gnome with it's own wallpaper and it's a fully functional version. I used it to Websurf with a Quad 700. Which version Mr. Garrison? All _n_x distros that can possibly run on oldworld mac must launch from a mac partition or sit on top of the macOS making them dual booting by default. Thanks. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: SCSI HD settings.
John Niven wrote: Nobody knows anything? :-( Not the make or model. Somebody must know. That would be you, include some more info. :) You guys are just holding out on me :-) How many 2gb scsi drives where made by how many companies? Tried it with Termination ON but not connected to the SCSI bus. Got a sad Mac. Thats interesting, if its not connected to the bus what difference can the termination jumper make? Help.. Make and model? Vintage macs handle scsi 2 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
