Past comes back to haunt me...help

[dan_A]

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Hello all-
I'm new to this list and I have a peculiar problem.

I recently took my old IIci out of mothballs. I had gotten an 
ethernet card for 5.95 on ebay and also picked up a hub. I plan to 
use it for email. After setting it up with the right software, using 
the Pickle's faq, (I'm on the compact mac list as well as the 
SuperMac list) I ran into my own history. Sometime in 1990, I had 
passworded the IIci and in order to mount the IIci or the SuperMac, I 
need to supply the pw. I tried everything I thought I might have used 
but cant hit the right one. Everything else appears to be working. 
Anyone know what prefs or what else I can dump or change to get 
around this problem? This is frustrating and I don't know how to get 
around it. I used Net Install ZM-1.5 to work with sys 7.5.3 on the 
IIci. The computer I'm networked to is a Umax S900, with os 9.1 and 
is upgraded to G4 and 1gb of ram. Both computers see each other in 
their choosers but are asking for passwords.

help!

Thank you.

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Re: Past comes back to haunt me...help

[dan_A]

>At 20:44 -0400 on 09/06/02, dan_A wrote:
>
>>SuperMac list) I ran into my own history. Sometime in 1990, I had
>>passworded the IIci and in order to mount the IIci or the SuperMac, I
>>need to supply the pw. I tried everything I thought I might have used
>
>Any idea what software you used?  Or are you just talking about File Sharing?
>
>If the latter, you can simply throw out the preferences related to file
>sharing and you should be good to go.  You can also just go into the
>Sharing Setup control panel and change the password there.
>
>the pickle


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I'm talking about file sharing I guess. I can't change the pw without 
putting in the old one. I tried tossing the file sharing prefs and 
restarted. It produced no change. Asking for the pw happens when I go 
to the chooser and choose Appleshare, which is on the ethernet. I can 
see the other computer show up in the chooser window as it should- 
and when I hit ok I get the password window for that computer. Thank 
you for your quick response.

dan_A

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Re: Past comes back to haunt me...help

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>At 21:13 -0400 on 09/06/02, dan_A wrote:
>
>>I'm talking about file sharing I guess. I can't change the pw without
>
>Sounds like it, yes.
>
>Hrm...the procedure I described has worked on every Mac I've ever used it on.
>
>What happens if you do a clean install of the OS on the machine with the
>password?
>
>the pickle

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I don't remember if I ever had the 7.5.3 disk. I think I upgraded via 
downloads and I have had non of that software for years. I do think 
that a clean install would work and I do have a sys 8.0 disk but I'm 
working with 32mgs of ram on the IIci and I dont know if it will 
install and run okay. I also have a non Apple cd player attached to 
the IIci that needs its extension to become available so I would not 
be able to start up with the os 8 cd. I used to have that problem all 
the time and went thru contortions to get new system os's on. The cd 
player is an old "Spirit" machine, and is so slow that it probably 
runs at -1 speed.

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Re: Past comes back to haunt me...help

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>At 21:31 -0400 on 09/06/02, dan_A wrote:
>
>>I don't remember if I ever had the 7.5.3 disk. I think I upgraded via
>>downloads and I have had non of that software for years. I do think
>
>You could grab 7.0.1 or 7.1 from the links in the FAQ or at Gamba's place.
>
>the pickle

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Okay. Great! I could take that path. I'm removing some other prefs to 
see if I can worm around the problem. I just dumped 3 items: Apple 
talk prefs, Users and Groups Data file and AppleShare prep. Naturally 
I couldn't open the chooser so I'll try putting them back one at a 
time, alone and see what I get. Thanks again. I'll keep the list 
posted.

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Re: Past comes back to haunt me...help

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>  I just dumped 3 items: Apple
>  >talk prefs, Users and Groups Data file and AppleShare prep. Naturally
>>I couldn't open the chooser so I'll try putting them back one at a
>
>Removing those three killed the Chooser?  It shouldn't have...
>
>the pickle
>

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When I opened the chooser it said apple talk couldn't be opened-that 
there was a component missing and promptly quit. BUT-- in fooling 
around I was able to enter and confirm a new password on the IIci. It 
then reverted to the old one when I tried to use it. So I put back 
the AppleShare prep pref and restarted. Then I went to the S900 and 
IT TOOK the NEW PASSWORD!!! Weird but good. So I was able to mount 
the 2 IIci drives on the S900. Next hurdle, to get Eudora on the IIci 
to use the cable modem along with the S900. It say that another 
machine is using the...???

Thank you all, especially the pickle. You guys are great and have 
heart as well as knowledge.

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Re: Past comes back to haunt me...help

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>
>If I am getting this correctly, when you try to mount a shared volume
>or folder residing on the IIci from the Umax, it is asking for a user
>name and password before it will mount.  Perhaps the situation is more
>complicated than this, but if not, then there are two places where
>users and passwords can be set. 
>
>Ed Murphy
>

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Thanks Ed

I did try to do both things-create new user or even go on as guest- 
setting the IIci to allow a guest to log on. I also tried to change 
pw. The IIci wouldn't allow a pw change without putting in the old 
one. And I could not make it accept a new user or a guest. It kept 
going to default no matter what I highlighted. The final solution as 
you might have read was to pull some pref files: I just dumped 3 
items: Appletalk prefs, Users and Groups Data file and AppleShare 
prep. which allowed me to change pw. I then put back what I needed, 
Appleshare prep to operate and it worked.

Thanks again

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Re: broadband for a Mac IIci??

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>At 23:03 -0700 on 14/06/02, Fran Dollinger wrote:
>
>>I've been trying to get my Mac IIci online for a few days now with no
>>success. All I've been able to find in the FAQ is going through a
>>modem (dialup). I have a cable modem. I've entered the particulars
>>into MacTCP and NADA! I don't even know what questions to ask at this
>
>Get Open Transport.  There's a link in the FAQ.
>
>Set it to DHCP.
>
>If that doesn't work, report back with details.
>
>the pickle

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I have a similar problem. I'm using 7.53 on a IIci with an ethernet 
card attached to a hub -Netgear 104- which has a cable modem plugged 
into it along with a Umax S900. I can mount the IIci drives on the 
Umax and can get into files, but when I try to use Eudora or Netscape 
(or iCab) I can't make a connection. I tried installing OT 1.0.8, 
which seems like the oldest version I can find. It wont install on a 
IIci. Is there anything else that I can install that will allow me to 
set DHCP?

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Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited

[dan_A]

>I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to
>walk me through connecting my IIci to my 7300/200 (OS 8.6), which I
>am using right now on the cable modem, and then explain how to
>transfer files.(I'm running OS 7.5, no CD on the IIci)
>TIA,
>Fran
>

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Hi Fran

Although I am in the same boat as you in not being able to use the 
cable modem through my IIci, I did manage to set up a network that 
works using ethernet.

I used ethernet because the cable is connected to my ethernet port on 
my SuperMac s900 which is running OS 9.1 with a G4 upgrade processor. 
The IIci is running OS 7.5.3, which is the highest OS that you can 
put onto the machine with its OEM processor, and which to date 
doesn't like Open Transport which is the other component that enables 
the IIci to get on the Internet with a cable modem. Right now I am 
trying to find a copy of OT 1.0 and then 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 which I am 
told I can install and subsequently upgrade. OT 1.0, a buggy and old 
version is made for Nubus machines and OS 7.5.3. That's what I need 
to find first. If anyone has a link to, or a copy of these versions 
of open transport and wants to email it to me, I would sure 
appreciate it.

To get files back and forth between the 2 machines I did this:

I got a Nubus ethernet card for the IIci on ebay for $5.00 plus 
shipping. I also got a Netgear EN104 4 port Hub on ebay for $9.00 
plus shipping. This enabled me to connect the cable modem, and the 2 
macs. (I also bought 2 ethernet cables -CAT5E RJ45 UTP NETWORK PATCH 
CABLE GRAY-to the lengths I needed)

Then you have to set up your IIci control panel-mac/tcp to the 
ethernet, turn file sharing on in both machines, go to the chooser 
and select appleshare. You should then be able to mount the drives of 
one computer onto the other.

I hope this explains the setup, at least roughly, to you and maybe 
gets us a connection to OT versions.

The Apple archives don't have these older versions of Open Transport, 
OT 1.0.8 is the oldest and still too new to install on OS 7.5.3.

dan_A

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Can't restart IIci

[dan_A]

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Can't restart IIci

Hi list-
My computer was working well. I'm using 7.5.3, I have the original 
drive that I use for start up and a 2gb external with a duplicate OS. 
There is a supermac video card, cache card, an ether net card and 32 
mb RAM. I had gotten rid of a 17" NEC monitor (stupidly) and am now 
running an apple 14" off the built-in card. The SuperMac doesn't seem 
to like the 14".

As I said everything was running and I even had the IIci operating on 
my network. Then...I tried to force a start from the external drive 
using a key combination which killed something. The keys were shift, 
option, command, delete...which I use on my S900. Now I can't 
restart. I tried zapping the PRAM and got no zapping activity. When I 
start, the monitor lights to white (just a flicker) and then back to 
black. I hear what sounds like a hd crackle for a few seconds and 
then just the fan. I disconnected the external SCSI and ethernet 
card. No help. I removed the video card, no difference. Tried to 
start from 7.5 floppy (disk first aid)-no activity. Took the machine 
apart, cleaned it, changed the original battery, checked to see if 
all the ram and cards were seated, put it together and nothing. I 
don't know if I fried something or I'm missing something simple or 
what. Any ideas out there? Thanks for any help.

dan_A



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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>on 7/30/02 2:02 PM, dan_A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  Any ideas out there? Thanks for any help.
>try hooking the monitor to the Supermac card and holding down the spacebar
>on restart. If that  doesn't do it, take the Supermac card out and try
>zapping pram.
>--
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>R.A. Cantrell
>

>Try holding *just* the option key for a few seconds with the SuperMac card
>(which one is it, BTW?) installed.

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I tried Just the option key. No go. I reconnected the monitor to the 
SuperMac card (The info printed on the card says J3  U1 2. I've long 
forgotton the model number since I bought the machine new in 1989? 
and reactivated it a few months ago.) and held down the space 
bar--nothing. I've had the monitor connected to the built in card 
with the SuperMac card removed, prior to the battery change and 
couldn't zap the PRAM then. Right now I still have the monitor 
attached to the SuperMac card...  did I fry something?

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>  >on 7/30/02 2:02 PM, dan_A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>   Any ideas out there? Thanks for any help.
>>try hooking the monitor to the Supermac card and holding down the spacebar
>>on restart. If that  doesn't do it, take the Supermac card out and try
>>zapping pram.
>>--
>>All the best,
>>R.A. Cantrell
>>
>
>>Try holding *just* the option key for a few seconds with the SuperMac card
>>(which one is it, BTW?) installed.
>
>--
>>the pickle
>--
>I tried Just the option key. No go. I reconnected the monitor to the
>SuperMac card (The info printed on the card says J3  U1 2. I've long
>forgotton the model number since I bought the machine new in 1989?
>and reactivated it a few months ago.) and held down the space
>bar--nothing. I've had the monitor connected to the built in card
>with the SuperMac card removed, prior to the battery change and
>couldn't zap the PRAM then. Right now I still have the monitor
>attached to the SuperMac card...  did I fry something?
>
dan_A
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I still have not had any success in starting up. Are there any other 
ideas out there? This IIci is still a good machine and I would really 
like to get it going again.

dan_A

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>on 7/31/02 7:58 AM, dan_A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>
>>  dan_A
>>  --
>>  I still have not had any success in starting up. Are there any other
>>  ideas out there? This IIci is still a good machine and I would really
>>  like to get it going again.
>>
>>  dan_A
>battery the right way around?
>--
>All the best,
>R.A. Cantrell

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Battery is in the right way. The old battery had an extra large plus 
side button, so it was easy to get the right orientation. Thanks.

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>on 7/31/02 8:37 AM, dan_A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  Battery is in the right way. The old battery had an extra large plus
>>  side button, so it was easy to get the right orientation. Thanks.
>>
>>  dan_A
>Take the Supermac card out till you get the machine to run. How is your ram
>set up? The IIci uses ram from bank "A"  for video, and it is suggested that
>the lowest density, whatever that means, ram  be  used in the "A" bank. Did
>you re-sort the ram in one of  your maneuvers? Make triple  sure that it  is
>all seated.
>--
>All the best,
R.A. Cantrell

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The RAM hasn't been touched for some years. I believe it's 8 slots of 4mb each.
I'll take the card back out. Any idea why I can't even zap the PRAM?
I was thinking of trying something else... I have a S900 Umax clone 
with a Sonnet G4 processor which came with an emergency PRAM Restpre 
floppy, which has gotten me out of trouble on that machine. It has OS 
7.5 on it with disk first aid and Apple Drive Setup. Think theres 
anything dangerous trying that? Or do you know of a similar piece of 
software that I could try. I couldn't boot from a sys 7.5 floppy.

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>on 7/31/02 9:30 AM, dan_A at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>  Think theres
>>  anything dangerous trying that? Or do you know of a similar piece of
>>  software that I could try. I couldn't boot from a sys 7.5 floppy.
>Give a careful account of the exact happenings when you try to boot. Fan?
>Lights? any HD clicking. Any blip in the monitor? Any Chime? You probably
>can't get to the floppy if you don't get past the ramcheck.
>--
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>R.A. Cantrell
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>

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ok.. here's what happens when I hit the startup key:
I get a single chime, The power light has gone on, there is some 
whirring & clicking of the hd trying to start. That stops after about 
12 seconds. Then all you can hear is the fan. Also at the hitting of 
the startup key the monitor when connected to the built-in video card 
flashes for a fracton of a second then returns to black screen. When 
it's plugged into  the Supermac card, it stays black.

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>  > I still have not had any success in starting up. Are there any other
>>  ideas out there? This IIci is still a good machine and I would really
>>  like to get it going again.
>
>Does it have a cache card?  If it does, pull it, and try again.  The
>card in my IIci went south, and it wouldn't boot.
>

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>
>  >Does it have a cache card?  If it does, pull it, and try again.  The
>>card in my IIci went south, and it wouldn't boot.
>  >
>
>--
>Okay, I was just about to pull the Supermac card out again...I'll
>remove the cache card too. Let you know.
>
>dan_A

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I removed the video card which I had done before, and I removed the cache card.

You hit it Donn, It started up with cache card out. Now I'm going to 
reattach the external SCSI chain and plug in the ethernet cable. Is 
there a way to test cache card? I guess sticking it back in will give 
part of that answer. I'll keep you posted. Thanks all for your help 
again.

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Re: Can't restart IIci

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>At 10:54 -0400 on 31/07/02, dan_A wrote:
>
>>I get a single chime, The power light has gone on, there is some
>>whirring & clicking of the hd trying to start. That stops after about
>>12 seconds. Then all you can hear is the fan. Also at the hitting of
>
>Disconnect the hard disk and try again.
>  >--the pickle
>
>>It started up with cache card out.<<

>Good.  Send the card off to your worst enemy.

>>Is there a way to test cache card?<<

>Yup.  Put it back in.  No start, dead card.  Or go buy another known
>good one.  Frame the old one.


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card. I'm able to start up withit out. Going to put it back in once 
more to see if it prevents starting...

Yes, no start with it back in and startup with it out again.

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Eudora conflicts?

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I recently upgraded my IIci with a Sonnet Presto 040 card. I also 
have the IIci on my cable network. Prior to installing the 040, I had 
Eudora problems (V3.01). I was able to get on line with ICab but no 
matter what I did to the Eudora settings I kept getting this error 
message:

"Error involving Domain Name System. -23009 There are already 64 TCP 
or UDP streams open. (tcp:544)".

Eudora opened but could not send or receive.

Now. after upgrading my DI-604 router firmware, when I try to just 
open Eudora, it crashes the machine. Anyone know of specific 
conflicts--040 card or its software with Eudora 3.01???
Any versions of Eudora or other email client that works with sys 
7.5.3 and 040 card?  Or does experience say that the problem lies 
elsewhere?  Any help or questions  appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Eudora conflicts?

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Hi All-

I don't know if this message made it out. I think I mis-posted it the 
first time. So here it goes again, maybe. If anyone has had some 
experience with this situation I would appreciate their input.

I recently upgraded my IIci with a Sonnet Presto 040 card. I also
have the IIci on my cable network. Prior to installing the 040, I had
Eudora problems (V3.01). I was able to get on line with ICab but no
matter what I did to the Eudora settings I kept getting this error
message:

"Error involving Domain Name System. -23009 There are already 64 TCP
or UDP streams open. (tcp:544)".

Eudora opened but could not send or receive.

Now. after upgrading my DI-604 router firmware, when I try to just
open Eudora, it crashes the machine. Anyone know of specific
conflicts--040 card or its software with Eudora 3.01???
Any versions of Eudora or other email client that works with sys
7.5.3 and 040 card?  Or does experience say that the problem lies
elsewhere?  Any help or questions  appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Eudora conflicts?

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>
>  >"Error involving Domain Name System. -23009 There are already 64 TCP
>>or UDP streams open. (tcp:544)".
>>dan_A
>
>Is the v3.01 an Eudora Lite version?
>In any case, Eudora Lite 3.1.3L might be an upgrade that works better for you.
>
>Gamba
><http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2>

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with OS 8.0. Is there a link to it on your site?

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Re: Holy Double Display, Batman!

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>
>I was able to connect both and start them up using the DB15 cable (which was
>specifically marked for Mac II to Apple monitor connections).  But on both
>computers, the display I get, after lots of fiddling with the buttons, is
>doubled -- two identical side by side displays, each showing almost (but not
>quite) the whole mac desktop, with a thick black bar running down the
>center.  Any other turn of the buttons produces a screen full of static.

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between the monitor cable and the computer's monitor port. This 
adaptor has dip switches on it and by finally choosing the right 
combination (the switch combinations are marked on the reverse side 
of the adapter) I was able to get rid of the double functioning 
images. I don't know if this will help you but the problem might be 
in the differences in the wiring of the pins and the port. Perhaps 
someone else on the list can suggest a specific adapter or cable.

Lots of luck

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

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>  >Epson has never been a brand of printer I've liked. :P
>
>Me neither. I've seen several epsons become useless and beyond repair
>because of dried up ink. Rumor has it that one needs to use them a
>lot to keep them in shape. They are supposed to produce very good
>colors though. I am thinking about getting a hp deskjet for color
>stuff and photos. I hope they are more trustworthy.
>
>Marten

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prints up to ledger size. The photo quality on "Premium Gloss Photo" 
paper is professional quality far far better than anything that I 
ever got from an HP ink jet. I sometimes leave it on without using it 
for a few weeks and most often it's not used for days and when I put 
it into action it self cleans before it prints; it all depends on 
your major usage. I don't work for epson.

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Re: older macs with newer printers--different question

[dan_A]

At 1:28 PM + on 10/30/02, /dev/null wrote:


>i have an epson stylus color 640 and its done remarkably well (snip)
>m~
>
>dan_A wrote:
>>>  >Epson has never been a brand of printer I've liked. :P
>>>
>>>Me neither. I've seen several epsons become useless and beyond repair
>>>because of dried up ink. Rumor has it that one needs to use them a
>>>lot to keep them in shape. They are supposed to produce very good
>>>colors though. I am thinking about getting a hp deskjet for color
>>>stuff and photos. I hope they are more trustworthy.
>>>
>  >>Marten

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Re: color printing Re: Sharing new printers with older Macs. Re:

[dan_A]

>
>It will take the vintage mac some time to send the enormous postscipt
>files to the print server but once it is there and the print server
>is fast enough, you'll get a high resolution color print without
>having to wait that long...
>
>Marten


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I don't know if anyone is interested in more info about what Marten 
mentioned about vintage macs printing hi res files thru RIP's. I was 
part of that commercial environment and had some years of experience 
with that type of "skittery" system. We started buying that kind of 
equipment when the SE/30 came out (if I remember correctly) and 
graduated to the IIci. We had 2 $75,000 B/W scanners with their RIPs. 
If you put pages together in Quark Xpress with Ilustrator or 
Photoshop images you had to be very careful about using too much 
rotated art or placing improperly trimmed images. The RIPs didn't 
like to process all that info and often would not. We sometimes 
ripped documents for other Ad Agencies and some Publishing companies, 
who often used Pagemaker, which created a lot of problems for the 
RIPs. At that time we were outputting Black and White files. For 
color work we used a Scitex (owned by an outside service) which was 
down to $800,00 dollars from its original million dollar price tag. 
So the equipment was very expensive and extremely slow and didn't 
respect non expert users. It was very exciting to grow up in that 
world. In the mid nineties I had the experience of outputting very 
large color images from S900's to  Windows NT RIPs, to 36" wide 
inkjet printers. Incredible speed and quality, for a fraction of the 
prior costs. So printing color from vintage Macs is possible but 
would be very very very slooow.

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Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

[dan_A]

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Having a problem with my 11ci.  While doing a network transfer from 
my S900 it crashed. When I tried to restart the external 1Gb drive 
(which is my startup drive) came up but the internal drive didn't 
appear and couldn't be accessed by Norton, Disk Warrier, Disk First 
Aid. I removed the external SCSI chain and the 040 processor card. No 
luck. Unfortunately I have an old non Mac cd player and can't start 
up without the enabling "Spirit" extension. I tried zapping the PRAM 
several times. All I got from this was a worse situation; the 
external startup drive would now only come up when the shift key was 
depressed. If I didn't hold the key down I get a startup smile face 
which then goes to chimes of death, black screen, scowling mac. So I 
dumped finder prefs, N.G. I took all the control panels and 
extensions out of their folders and got the black screen. I took the 
folders out and let the sys make new ones. Black screen. I tried 
access with old software on floppies but they come up as unreadable. 
I also tried using a CDRW drive hoping that I could get startup from 
a Norton or DiskWarrier CD, since the drive has the Apple ROMS. No 
success. So I have no access to the remaining external drive except 
with all the inits off.

My specific question, aside from my choking cry for help is: What 
else besides the control and extension folders does the shift key 
depressed cancel out? I remove all the extensions, cps and their 
folders and still can't get a startup if the extension key is not 
held down? The key is seemingly canceling something else that's 
corrupted.

Any ideas will be very appreciated and I hope there are some, because 
I'm out of them at this moment.

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

[dan_A]

At 2:07 PM -0500 on 10/31/02, Steve Cunningham wrote:
>.
>You didn't say what System you are using. Some older ones keep extensions
>hanging around loose in the System Folder and even under the later
>Systems, some older extensions still need to go in the System Folder. In
>particular, depending on the make of your 040 card, there might be a
>driver or "enabler" it needs. Is it still out? If you have trashed the
>old folders and their contents, the System isn't going to "rebuild" them
>for you. You will need to reinstall the system (which it sounds like you
>can't). If you didn' trash them, try putting them all back and turning
>them up one by one using Extensions Manager.
>
>The old Apple CD-300 drives will boot on the IIci and you can probably
>find one cheap.
>
>BTW, it seems that you are assuming that there is a software/driver
>problem with the internal drive. It may be a hardware problem that caused
>or was caused by the crash which would explain why none of the diagnostic
>programs could see it initially.
>
>Good Luck.
>
Steve

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Thanks for the reply. I'm using sys 7.5.1 on the IIci. I didn't trash 
the cp and extension folder's contents. I moved them to the desktop 
and tried adding some back that would enable me to mount a cd or get 
on the network. The thing is, that even the empty folders in the sys 
folder crashed the machine. I have to look to see if there are any 
loose inits in the sys folder. Is 7.5.1 an OS that tolerates loose 
inits? The 040 card is a Sonnet, which is one of the first things 
that I removed. Made no difference. I also tried using 
MountEverything software which indicated hardware damage to the 
internal drive. This whole thing resulted from a crash... or a crash 
resulted from a hardware glitch. If I can get to the internal drive I 
would be able to see if I can restore the volume or at worst create a 
new volume. But right now I need to repair the software on the 
external drive which disk warrior (installed on that same drive 
unfortunately) indicates to be very out of sync (my words).

dan_A

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

[dan_A]

At 10:43 PM -0500 on 10/31/02, Bryan Kattwinkel wrote:
>
>Did you remove the AppleShare Prep and AppleTalk preference files? Or
>just move/rename the Preferences folder and replace it with a blank one.
>
Bryan Kattwinkel <mailto:kattwinkel@;lemlists.com>

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did pull the finder and some others individually. Then in order to 
know if pulling any of the prefs would make a difference I put the 
entire folder on the desktop.  It did not stop the "restart without 
the shift key crash". I also checked the system folder for loose 
extensions and found one, the "finder scripting extension, which I 
pulled along with the cp and extension folder again. Still could only 
startup with shift key down. Uhmm, I just thought (sometimes I'm 
slow) to pull the external drive and attach it to another computer. I 
only have 9.1 on my other machine but I should be able to put 
DiskWarrier and Norton on the case and see if the system is 
repairable. Talk to you all later. Still may need some ideas on this.

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Re: Trying To Recover From a IIci Crash!

[dan_A]

At 9:47 PM -0800 on 10/31/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>Tried connecting the "dead" internal drive to your
>S900 to see if it can be seen there? Make sure the
>internal drive is actually spinning.

-- 
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volume can be found on it. I'm going to try and fix the external by 
attaching it to the S900 and use DiskWarrier and Norton if necessary 
to see if I can fix that software. If I'm successful then I will be 
able to use Norton to try to recover the internal drive volume on the 
IIci. When I pulled the 040 processor, the ethernet card and the 
external SCSI chain I was able to see the internal drive begin a 
spinup and the disk light (diode?) flashing. But it would not get 
past that and I had no way to get to it with any software tools.

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Re: hotrodded IIci?

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At 1:17 AM -0500 on 11/3/02, the pickle wrote:

>
>Commercial, and freeware.  I haven't a clue where to get it these days but
>there's an outside chance I might have tossed it in my archive.
>
>
>the pickle
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Re: SuperMac card and 17" Muktiscan

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>Robert Gray wrote:
>>I have a SuperMac Spectrum/24 PDQ Plus v1.60 which is
>>>supposed to give me 24-bit color to past the 1024x768.  I installed the
>>MultiScan software from Apple and I selected the 17" Multiscan from the
>>list.  However from the Control Strip the only option is 640x480.

I'm using a SuperMac card Spectrum/24 series III, v 1.1 in my IIci. 
It is controlled by a SuperVideo 2.7.4 cp which give the option for 
1024x768. I originally had it running a huge NEC 7FG 17" multisync. 
You just need the cp.

>1. Can it be that this very SuperMac card only accepts a 3x BNC SuperMac
>monitor? If so, I can supply homebrew cable details, I think. My SuperMac
>card, a Spectrum 8 series II from 1988, only wants 3x BNC. I don't know the
>use sense pinnings off-hand.

I use a "standard" connector and not a BNC type and no problems.


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changing HD in a IIci

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A few months ago I changed a battery in my IIci so I have the 
experience of removing the power supply, drive bay pillar and drives. 
This was not easy because of the difficulty in pulling the power 
supply. Recently the internal HD went kaput and I want to replace it. 
The question is: is it necessary to pull the power supply to remove 
the hard drive which is on top of everything? It looks accessible but 
is it? Sorry for the basic question but I've not done this  in a 
IIci. Thanks for any info.

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Re: changing HD in a IIci

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>
>The question is: is it necessary to pull the power supply to remove
>the hard drive which is on top of everything? It looks accessible but
>is it? Sorry for the basic question but I've not done this  in a
>IIci. Thanks for any info.
>
>dan_A
>
>At 9:18 AM -0800 on 12/3/02, Snook, John R wrote:
>You should be able to squeeze the two metal tabs on the HDD holder 
>and lift it out. Unplug the SCSI and power cables to the HDD first.
>johnsn

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Re: changing HD in a IIci

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>--
>You should be able to squeeze the two metal tabs on the HDD holder 
>and lift it out. Unplug the SCSI and power cables to the HDD first.
johnsn

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I unplugged the drive...

Okay, where are the clips? Are there any screws to be removed?

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Re: changing HD in a IIci

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At 9:18 AM -0800 on 12/3/02, Snook, John R wrote:
>
>--
>You should be able to squeeze the two metal tabs on the HDD holder 
>and lift it out. Unplug the SCSI and power cables to the HDD first.
johnsn

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Re: changing HD in a IIci

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>dan_A wrote:
>  > --
>  > The question is: is it necessary to pull the power supply to remove
>>  the hard drive which is on top of everything? It looks accessible but
>  > is it?

>At 8:48 PM -0800 on 12/3/02, J. S. Garrison wrote:
>  >The basic
>  >trick is you'll encounter a little frustration with the short SCSI 
>cable >attached to the hard drive, and the power cable.
>
>>I use a small blade screwdriver to pry at the sides of the cable where it
>>enters the socket on the
>>hard drive. A gentle wiggle gets both cords off. For putting them back on I
>  >use a pair of needle-nosed pliers as my hands are too fat to reach 
>in and >press them back into place.

>At 7:02 PM -0800 on 12/3/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

>Nope. Simply unplug the SCSI and power cables from
>the back of the drive then press the two vertical
>metal tabs on each side slightly towards each other.
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"legacy" WD 2170 drive.

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Re: LC475 Hard drive unreadable

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At 11:14 AM + on 1/3/03, Daniel Kendell wrote:
>
>But...
>It says that the hard drive is unreadable and do I want to format it.
>I have data on that, that I don't really want to loose.
>Have I allready lost it and it's time to move on? can it be saved?
>And why does it say that to every floppy I put in?
>
>I am REALLY stumped on this. I have had system probs before but not like
>this.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>

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I recently had similar problems in two different machines. I was able 
to save one and could not save another. It's possible that the 
problem is software or hardware related. If you have a copy of Norton 
Utilities on a CD you can start up with that and see if Nortan Disk 
Doctor can see the drive. If not you can go to the menu bar and look 
for "mount custom disks" and try that. If you can get to the disk 
that way you might be able to repair it. You can also try DiskWarrier 
which is great for recovery but is not good at finding some damaged 
disks. In addition there are a number of free utilities that are 
pretty good.
You can get Mt.Everything (68kor/and PPC versions) here:  
http://www.overnet.de/hhp/mte/

It's free. You can also download DataRescue which is shareware that 
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Be patient- and good luck.

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Re: IE 4.1 flop

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At 11:59 AM -0800 on 1/8/03, Ted Parks wrote:
>
>Any ideas about the conflict? How can I get everything off the HD to
>start over? I had no luck initializing the HD from the 7.5 disk tools
>floppy.

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This is only a guess... You have to reformat or initialize the drive 
using an older version of DriveSetup, one that's timely for 7.5.3. I 
did something similar a few months ago. I took a 2 gig drive that had 
9.1 on it, installed it where the internal 1/2 gig drive was in a 
IIci. I also had an extrnal drive attached to the IIci on which I had 
dragged the 7.5.3 system folder, earlier on. Using the external as a 
start up and with a copy of Apple SCSI Setup, v 7.3.2 or Apple HD SC 
setup v 3.0.1, I don't remember which (sorry) I formatted the 2 gig. 
Took quite a while. After that I dragged the 7.5.3 sys folder onto 
the 2 gig. It has been my startup drive without any problems.

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Re: Icab 2.9

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At 10:12 AM -0500 on 1/14/03, Hardy Menagh wrote:


>iCab 2.9 is out <http://www.icab.de/dl.php> Don't everybody download it at
once.

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Re: Ethernet for a IIci

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At 6:43 PM -0500 on 1/16/03, Carlos wrote:
>
>If you plan to do any internet-related activity, I don't think 7.1.1
supports Open Transport.
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Re: cables

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At 9:30 AM -0600 on 1/17/03, R.A. Cantrell wrote:

>What sort of Monitor/mac situation requires the db-15 two row to 4 co-ax
>ends cable?

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I use them, I believe they are called BNC cables, for my Mitsubishi 
Diabond Pro 21" monitor. I've also used them in the past for the 
Barco Monitor which is a professional monitor that cost about $6,000 
in '98. I would imagine that there are a number of hi-end monitors 
that use them or have the option of using them.

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Re: cables

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At 8:47 PM -0500 on 1/17/03, Carlos wrote:
>  I ask b/c I have a couple old monitors with the BNC
>inputs and I couldn't get them to work with my PCI video cards.
>
carlos
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The Mitsubishi monitor using this cable (which has 5 leads) is 
attached to an ims twin turbo 8m pci card in a Umax S900, upgraded to 
a G4/450. I do all my color correction on this monitor and I'm able 
to print what I see. I think the better monitors use this type of 
connection-perhaps the BNC cable help make them capable of being 
color balanced more accurately. I don't know if this is true but one 
of the greatest monitors I've ever used or seen was the Barco. It had 
a very sophisticated tuning system for color balance and distortion 
control. I had six of them in the shop I ran and was able 
correct/manipulate and print color images that were as seen on the 
screen. This was in 96 and 97 when color management was in its 
infancy. I've upgraded the S900 from a 604e/250 using sys 7.5 to a 
G4/450 using 9.1 without losing the function of the monitor or card.

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Re: Mac IIci startup probs

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At 6:29 PM + on 2/15/03, Daniel Kendell wrote:
>
>BTW, i am probably breaking some rule but anyone know where i can get
service manuals so i can solve some problems myself?

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Re: Mac IIci & Internet?

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At 8:40 AM -0600 on 3/2/03, Terry Ovans wrote:


>I have a Macintosh IIci that I would like to get onto the Internet. 
>I have included basic specs for my machine and would like to know 
>what I need or have to do to accomplish this.
>
>Machine: Mac IIci - 32Mb Ram doubled with Ram Doubler & Macintosh 
>IIci Cache card
> SuperMac card Ver. 1.50
> OS 7.5.3
> Asante card - MC3NB (ST-NIC-V) Rev. B1
>
>Programs:   telnet, Comet311, Eudora Light 1.5.4, Netscape 
>2.01 and a few others that I   am not sure if they 
>apply or not.
>
>Currently I am on High Speed Internet through my telephone service 
>provider using a Pentium II/435 running Windoze 98.  What do I need 
>to do to get the IIci on the 'Net and, can I network these two 
>machines together so I can be on the Macintosh while my wife uses 
>the Windoze machine?  Thank you for all your help in the past and 
>for whatever help you can be with this.

-- 
It can be done. I have my IIci, using 7.5.3 with 32 megs, connected 
to a router, not a hub, which is connected to a cable modem via 
ethernet cable. I have 2 other computers attached to the router: A 
SE/30 and a S900 G4.

As others have said, you need OpenTransport. You'll need to download 
versions 1.1.1 and 1.1.2, installing and upgrading them in version 
order, to enable DHCP in TC/IP. You should also download the current 
68k version of iCab which is a very fast browser and has all the 
components you need to surf. The info to do this came from Gamba and 
Pickle and others on this list. Take a look at the faq and if you 
need help people will jump in and give you a hand.

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Re: IIci and Cable Modem?

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On Sunday, July 27, 2003, at 07:02 PM, Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Bottom line: If this is even possible, what are the minimum 
requirements?

You can do this with every Mac OS from 6.08 on up. Just install the 
ethernet driver and tcp software (mactcp or open transport) and then 
it is a matter of some small configurations.
Marten is right. I have my IIci connected to my router and have only 
32Megs of RAM, Sys. 7.5.3 and Open Transport 1.1.2. which you need if 
your using a cable modem. It enables you to use DHCP under TC/IP which 
allows the Mac to see the modem. You have to install OT 1.1.2 over OT 
1.1.1. Others can jump in to explain where to get these and how to 
install. The IIci is networked with a SE/30 using 7.1 and a s900 G4 
using Jaguar and a LaseJet 4M + which is available to all the computers.

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Re: LW 4/600 pinter

[dan_A]

On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 03:04 AM, Jim Lucas wrote:

I can't find the on/off switch. Boy do I feel silly. Can anyone help 
me?
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Wow- sounds like a carbon copy of the help message i sent out earlier 
this summer!

It might be a rocker switch, on right front panel, about a handspan 
down from the top, right under the ledge.

dan_A

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