Ghosting Flop

[mart]

Hi all,

In an LC, a flop was removed the wrong way. Now that particular flop is
Ghosting: 'pleaseinsert disk Btae.d'

 Problems are:
a) the LC is not here; I have to give instructions per mail.
b) the flop that's haunting the LC is no more
c) I don't know the cure :)

What can be done to get the LC back to normal?

TIA,

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Re: ghosting flop

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the pickle wrote:
Keep hitting cmd-period until it goes away.

Janet wrote:
are you referring to the floppie storage disc that was written to, or
the floppie reader that took the discs?

I was talking about the floppy disk itself (because I know there was a
floppy disk called 'Btae.d' in the package I shipped with the LC. But then
again, you're not that far off, because recently, I sent a working disk
drive (reader) to replace the flaky one. The messages are appearing after
the replacement.

James S Jones wrote:
He ejected, rather than put away, a floppy disk.

Indeed, indeed. This LC was sent to a user with close to 0% computer
experience.

 It isn't clear to me why he doesn't
just comply, reinsert the disk and unmount it...

It was wrecked in the process of manual removal. The drive also died...

Flop is apparently a Dutch diminutive (...0 and we become confused.

I'll stick to floppy disk :))

And I've just posted a message to the owner with a billion cmd-period
prescription. Hope it works!

Thanks!

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120 PIN PDS (was: 040 in a SE/30)

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Mark noted:
I think I brought this up when you originally said Mart, yours are
96-pin VME and the IIsi / SE/30 slot is 120-pin or something. I would
have bought several by now if they were the right size :).

Sorry folks :)
Have been on digest for a few weeks and haven't read them all.
OK, 120 pin. On saturday, I go there and count the pins.

regards,

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Re: gray scale adapter

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Let the Mac analog board run the yoke.
Replace the circuit board that goes on the back of the CRT with a custom
one that plugs in to the SE30 PDS color board output.
What would keep this from working?
How can we make this work?
johnsn

Where are you going to get an SE30 PDS color board that frames up the video
to 512x342 resolution and syncs with the horizontal and vertical rates that
the yoke is running at?

Ah, yes. I forgot. Gamba is right. I hurray-ed too soon at johnsn's
proposal. 512x342 is compact-only...

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Re: 040 in a SE/30

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On Monday, Dec 16, 2002, at 15:47 Europe/London, Snook, John R wrote:

 What's your problem? I've done a couple different stiles with success.
 Can I help?

The IIsi adapter is a right-angle adapter. The problem being it drops
the Turbo 040 slap bang in thew middle of where the hard disk is
mounted, obstructed by some of the chassis to boot. The 040 and adapter
are not mine, they belong to a friend so a mod id not really feasible
unless I have to. I'm really trying to do it for the friends SE/30 so
if I had to mod I would but I'd rather not, if you catch my drift. Is
there somewhere I can get a vertical IIsi adapter for the 040 or a
right angle PDS thing to make the 040 stand vertically?

How many pins do these PDS-slots have? Here in Amsterdam, a load of
VME-connectors are available for something close to nothing. Looked like
the right number of pins, but please tell me the number of pins you need.

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Re: gray scale adapter

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I have been thinking about if it would be possible to make a gray scale
adapter to run off any SE30 PDS color board.

Let the Mac analog board run the yoke.
Replace the circuit board that goes on the back of the CRT with a custom
one that plugs in to the SE30 PDS color board output.

What would keep this from working?

Nothing. Great idea. Really.

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VME Nubus vonnectors

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Hi all,

a local surplus shop has about 30 or 40, VME connectors (Nubus size), both
nale and female, straght and -angled, for very very little, like 50 cents
each. Is this worth getting and passing it to those who are into building
IIsi/se30 etc adapters?  Those who are in need of such connectors, please
contact me off-list.

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SuperMac card and 17 Muktiscan

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Robert Gray wrote:
I have a SuperMac Spectrum/24 PDQ Plus v1.60 which is
supposed to give me 24-bit color to past the 1024x768.  I installed the
MultiScan software from Apple and I selected the 17 Multiscan from the
list.  However from the Control Strip the only option is 640x480.

1. Can it be that this very SuperMac card only accepts a 3x BNC SuperMac
monitor? If so, I can supply homebrew cable details, I think. My SuperMac
card, a Spectrum 8 series II from 1988, only wants 3x BNC. I don't know the
use sense pinnings off-hand.

2. If you refer to the Monitor CP that came with your OS, that might very
well be - and remain - the case. There should be a second Monitor CP,
devoted to that 17 Multithing. After setting that one, and if the
Multiscan software behaves nicely, the graphics card and its monitor ought
to show up in the normal Monitor CP. This may reguire a few restarts.

3. Does the Mac send these dissapointing signals to the on-board connector
or to the graphics card?

4. The card does not recognize the extended sense line codes. For a 17
Multiscan monitor (max res 1024 x 768 + as many colours as the card can
handle), the sense pinning should be code 11:
one diode from line1 (pin7) to line2 (pin10) and line0 (pin 4) grounded.

You can fool the Mac into thinking there's an older 19 fixed freq monitor
attached by feeding it code 58:
a plain wire connection between line0 (pin 4) and line2 (pin7)

This requires the cutting of a cable, some nifty multimetering and some
soldering. Even then, I can't guarantee that it works here.

good luck

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Re: 2 Mac Iisi Questions

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1. What's the best monitor for a Mac Iisi? Right now, I use an AudioVision
14, but if I ever put it on another Mac, I'd like to know a good monitor for
it.

Sitting on top of a IIsi, the M1212 undoubtedly LOOKS the best. It combines
great with the case design of the IIsi. 
Whether it VIEWS the best, well, the Apple High-Res RGB has, being a
Trinitron, a darker black and is slightly sharper. Both are 640 x 480
monitors. The M1212 can be had for as little as 5 to 10 Euro/Dollars. 

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Re: older macs with newer printers-different question

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 Hi list,

Janet wrote:
i have 2 IIfx'x a IIsi, and LCIII- all ethernet'able. [...]
does anyone know if what she's offereing me, plus the hardware i've
listed, will succeed in letting me print color from the epson, using
ethernet to network the macs to the 850Ne? or am I still gonna have to
acquire a powermac from the same era as her powerprint software, to make
this thing run all together? 

This really depends on the hardware requirement for her powrprint software.
Often, only a certain MAC OS version is required. Ask her to see what's on
the box, I'd say. If it states PowerMac only, you might want to go look for
a previous version of that package, or buy a cheap PowerMac, as already
suggested here.

This sounds like someone's signature file I read the other day: 'The box
said Windows 98 or better, so I bought a PowerMac' :)

good luck,

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Re: newer printers with older macs

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Hi all,

Jay wrote:
what keeps tripping me up is that the printer OEM's and the third party
software makers keep wanting the mac to be at least a power pc.

In a place where I have worked , the Epson printer (a model 1500 machine
(A3) from 1997 or so) was connected to a 200 MHz PowerMac (system 7.6.1),
which had a program called 'RIP Server' on it. The 68k Macs (system 7.5.5)
had 'RIP client' software installed. Everything went well. (Even over
Localtalk PhoneNet stuff!)

It may very well be possible that the RIP Server sofware will also work on
a 68k machine. I can ask them about the version of the Epson RIP software
if you like.

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Re: Apple eNews about Mac.com email filtering

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James replied:

The Apple eNews piece on Mail is about the bundled email app that's
included with Mac OS X, which is named, Mail. The new version has
sophisticated spam filtering that will work with any and all email
providers, not just mac.com. (Mail lets you have as many accounts at a
time as you like; I have 5 coming from three different services.)

I see. Of course. They're talking about a part of Jaguar, which is on the
machine of the user, not in the Mac.com MailServer Gearbox (tm), or
whatever they'll call their switch house next week :)

Thanks,

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Re: Why Macs need disk drivers. Re: More about the Whiney Drives

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 He's educated all of us. Stick around. The best is
 yet to come . . .

It is?

There it was!

Indeed: wow.

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Re: Surreptitious, but not subversive, downloading

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Mark Benson:
 I've been relatively lenient (what with all this
copyright discussion and all)

Marten:
The copyright discussion was very much on topic. It is beyond me that
you can't see that. Vintage Macs isn't only about hardware but also
about the (copyrighted) software without which the hardware is
useless, and the peripheral hardware you also cannot live without.

I agree.
The one who was OT was the guy who complained  left the building.

On the copyright topic:

 Mark Benson:
$80 for 8.6) but they are still selling it retail. Therefore those
companies are missing out on custom from people if they use a copied

pickle:
Yeah, but they don't have any claim to the loss because they aren't the
copyright holder. That'd be like Apple complaining that eBay allows the sales
of old Macs, which is obviously *not* beneficial to Apple's revenue stream...

Almost, IMO. The difficulty is that hardware can be sold assingle
non-mulipyable items, or 'goods' and if you're buyer, it's your 'property'
then. That's easy. Also easy are hiring, borrowing etc, all because these
concepts deal with things that break when you drop it. Trading old Macs on
eBay works like that. Apple may *want* to stop it, but they can't because
the goods changed owner and now the goods are beyond their reach.
The SW-companies seem to regard every copy of their stuff still very much
their 'property'.

The hardware concepts of clearly identifyable ownership don't apply to
software, as years of piracy and this thread make more than clear. The fact
that software IS copyable makes it all pretty messy. As I understand you
all, the software industry came with 'pay and become the lgitimate user'
instead of 'paying and become the owner'.

The impossibility of post-licencing obsolete software seems to be the most
annoying fact.
Now, what useful concepts are there at ou disposal for that?

1. stuatus quo - simply do nothing. Not much risk if you're using it at
home, but tricky if you want to use old stuff professionally.

2. a paypool. The musci industry has one. For the use of music, you pay to
an organisation, which in turn takes care of payment to the artists. Works
if everybody agrees, and that's what makes the difference between little
musicians and big software houses.

3. Pay for the current version and talk them into into accepting that the
license applies to the old version instead. I actually asked such a
question once to MS, regarding Office. The man was highly surprised that we
wanted to stay 'that backward' but said he had to ask (...). Never hear
from him.

With software of which the developer has dissapeared, this is a bit harder.
But then again, he or she didn't clear up his business/leave a note when
closing the door.

Overall, it seems to me that an industry-wide change of paradigma is
needed, which, of course, is hard. Or are there easier ways?

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Install type, how to check?

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Can anybody tell me how I can check what type of installation was chosen,
for a certain OS?
Suppose I have a HD with 7.5.5. that works with my IIci and LC's and I want
to take it out to somebody who has a PowerMac without a HD. I wonder if it
will boot. Any chance of checking that?

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Re: Install type, how to check?

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--- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anybody tell me how I can check what type of
 installation was chosen,
 for a certain OS?
 Suppose I have a HD with 7.5.5. that works with my
 IIci and LC's and I want
 to take it out to somebody who has a PowerMac
 without a HD. I wonder if it
 will boot. Any chance of checking that?

There's a little util that will check a file, even
the System file, to see if it has FAT code in it.
If it does then it will boot a Vintage Mac and
some PowerMacs. (Depends on which Mac OS version
which PowerMacs it would boot.) Unfortunately I
don't recall the name of that little utility! :P

Thanks. I'll go look for it. I remember somebody having such a piece, now
you come to mention it. Bob F?

Probably something like CheckFat or FatCheck :)

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Re: Install type, how to check?

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Gregg Eshelman wrote:

 --- mart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a little util that will check a file, even
 the System file, to see if it has FAT code in it.
 If it does then it will boot a Vintage Mac and
 some PowerMacs. (Depends on which Mac OS version
 which PowerMacs it would boot.) Unfortunately I
 don't recall the name of that little utility! :P

PPC checker is one.

Great.I'll find it and be off to this PowerMac guy :)

Most early PowerMacs will boot from a 7.5 boot disk.

That's the why of my question. Several of my 7.5  install disks have
deceased (were next to a rather big loudspeaker for a while), so I must use
the already installed versio on the HD.

Thanks all,

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Re: Some history

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Thank you very much for your clear and thorough explanation, Gregg.

With some pictures of distressed guys like me and my housemates, around
1994, in the middle of the night, floppies and coffee mugs all over the
place, approaching a deadline, trying to figure of what on earth were heads
or cylinders, it may very well be on LEP or LEM :)

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Re: Install type, how to check?

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I've got one called PowerPCheck FAT v3.2. Should be
easy to find.

I knew it was Bob F who mentioned it! Thanks.

Before I left to pick up a dirt-cheap 7300 without HD, hence the question,
the guy told me on the phone that he'd found a OS 8 CD from which the Mac
booted nicely. That was enough confirmation, so I went to get it.

The 7.5.5 on my HD turned out to be a full install indeed and it booted
from that one as well.
I am now the proud owner of a 7300 to do all my processor-hungry graphics
on. It has the ugliest case I've ever seen, so perhaps I'll manage to stuff
it in my silver LCII-with-a-Quadra-in-it case, which is what I wanted to do
with it from the start :)
I even went into the trouble of checking the dimensions of the various PPC
logic board before I placed an online ad for a 7x00 :)

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Re: More about the Whiney Drives

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William:
Alright. The best solution to this that I can think of
is to use the hacked version of Apple's HDSC. (Apple
designed it to see only Apple drives. The hack allows
for other drives to be seen.)

I very much agree. Yes, use that one. Has done *a lot* for my macs.

That way you can wipe
the drive, install an Apple driver and be on your merry
way. Wonder where to get it? H. We'll see.

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/

which may come as a surprise :)

How do I tell if a version is hacked or not?
Simply by whether it works or doesn't?

That becomes clear when visiting Gamba's site. The hack is there to
download, IIRC.

good luck,

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Re: Surreptitious, but not subversive, downloading

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Situation:  I've got a fine Pismo G3 but a terribly slow phone connection.
I need to download some large pgms and docs (Mozilla, etc,) and library only
lets us use 1.4 meg floppies.

So, has anyone been able to slip into the computer sections of their library
and plug a zip drive into one of the almost always IBM type machines and
download to the zip and then sneak out again?

Sneakin' in and out of places, yes, but not a library, with a Zip disk.
I'll keep it short:

If that fine Pismo G3 and your Zip drive talk to each other through USB,
*and* the PC in the library are also equiped with USB, you can hook the Zip
drive up to the PC's. It is a matter of installing the right Iomega Zip
software on the PC and inserting a PC formatted Zipdisk.

If the PC's do not have USB, you're restricted to connecting the Zip drive
to the parallel/printer port, which requires a Zip drive for the parallel
port, or perhaps a conversion gizmo.

Here at home, the PC has a parallel port Zip drive, and the IIci has a SCSI
zip drive. I ShoeNet between them with PC formatted Zip disks, which are
perfectly readable on the Mac with the OS 7.5.x 'Joliet' extension.

Other compatiblity issues: both drives are blue :)

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Re: OT: Quadra video

[mart]

I wrote:
 Can you imagine: a 17 in M1212-style case on top !!?

pickle:
Make sure the LC case can take the weight.  Anyone got the original manual
for an LC around?  It should have the maximum monitor weight ratings in it.

Thanks, but don't worry. When checking, I indeed noticed the case bending,
so it now has some very neat metal harness inside. The URL's about the
weight ratings are nice nevertheless.

And yesterday, it was spraypainted silver.

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Re: OT: Quadra video

[mart]

Me:
And yesterday, it was spraypainted silver.

the pickle:
You're posting pics of the harnesses and the paintjob, yes? :)

At the moment, I don't have the gear for that (camera broken, scanner
dissatisfied with being attached to PeeCee...), but in due time, I want to
put all of the crap I pulled with Macs on a small site, yes.

Today, it even got wilder:

I was about to trash my old 21 SuperMac, but decided to give it a last try.
The adjustment work I did on the 17 learned me so much, that I suddenly
'missed' certain adjustment controls. Closer look: AHA! Left side is a
door! In there were the ones I needed: overal horizontal  vertical Focus
and overal brightness!

After more than an hour of fine-tuning: Clean as a whistle! MUCH better
than the 17.

Now, I somehow wonder: isn't placing it on top of an LC a bit OVERDONE :) ?

I'll keep you posted!

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Re: OT: Quadra video

[mart]

Make sure the LC case can take the weight.

Mark:
It took my 17 without flinching, creaking or otherwise. Unless your
17 is unusually heavy

believe me, it IS :)

I'd say your ok.

Yes, but the LC was definitely not ! Anyhow, the 21 was put back into
service but is really not an option on top of an LC, so I'm on the lookout
(not on these lists) for another 17. The harness is already made, so, when
serendipity sets in, I'm sure I'll find one. There's time, because the
Qa/LC still needs some work done.

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Re: OT: Quadra video

[mart]

Now, I somehow wonder: isn't placing it on top of an LC a bit OVERDONE :) ?

the pickle:

How about putting the LC inside it instead? :)

I have considered that. For now I go for the stacking, because I like the'
M1212-on-top- of-an-LC-look', but who knows.

A few months ago, I even had a project called 373: a IIsi built into/under
an M1212. It was cancelled being rather difficult and not worth it, also
because the screen has quite some scratches on the front end. I kept the
parts, though.

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OT: Quadra video

[mart]

Just one quick OT question, if you'll allow me.

I've got a Quadra 610 that I want to hook up to a 1024 x 768 monitor. If
put one 512k or two 256k VRAM modules in the empty VRAM-slots, totalling 1
Mb, is that all need to do to get it working? (in 7.5.5) Or do I need
something else, like a control panel or extension?

Thanks!

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Re: OT: Quadra video

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At 14:18 +0200 on 22/07/02, mart wrote:

I've got a Quadra 610 that I want to hook up to a 1024 x 768 monitor. If
put one 512k or two 256k VRAM modules in the empty VRAM-slots, totalling 1
Mb, is that all need to do to get it working? (in 7.5.5) Or do I need
something else, like a control panel or extension?

It *should* Just Work(tm) as long as the monitor uses normal sense coding.
The TIL article linked in the FAQ has details if you need 'em.

the pickle

FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml

Thanks, pickle!

I should be doing all right making that monitor cable (13w3 to Mac), 'sense
line' is my middle name these days :)  The info on the Quadra was all
needed. Great.

I already got the monitor I recently found to work on 3x BNC SOG, connected
to my SuperMac Spectrum 8 video card and I noticed that the mon. has
circuits to deal with other/seperate sync signals. A versatile Sony beast.
Just a pity that the screen front itself is so greyish, but it will do for
the moment.

BTW the Quadra in question now lives in an LC case. Can you imagine: a 17
in M1212-style case on top !!?

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13 pin Monitor connector

[mart]

Hi all,

I took home a monitor today; a Silicon Graphics 19, model GDM 1630SG.
It seems to be in good shape, but has a 13 pin connector. (10 regular, 3
coaxial)
I'd like to try it as a replacement for my fastly fading 21 SuperMac.
Does anybody have/know where to find info on the pinouts of this connector?
This one has come up before, but I didn't save the postings on it.

TIA,

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13w3 pinout found!

[mart]

Hi again,

In the mean time, I found what I was looking for:
13W3 is an unusual connector combining a
10-pin D-shell and analog three video conductors:

 gray/  1  gnd*
red   *   *  green blue 2  vertical sync*
 |   1o  2o  3o  4o  5o| |  3  sense #2
(O)   (O)   (O) 4  sense gnd
6o  7o  8o  9o 10o  5  composite sync
 *   *  6  horizontal sync*
7  gnd*
* Considered obsolete, may not be   8  sense #1
  connected.9  sense #0
10 composite gnd

   The codes for the three monitor-sense bits are:

0 ???   4 1152 x 900 76Hz 19
1 reserved  5 reserved
2 1280 x 1024 76Hz  6 1152 x 900 76Hz 16-17
3 1152 x 900  66Hz  7 no monitor connected

Those resolutions look promising!

Thanks anyway

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Re: IIsi video

[mart]

Patrick asked:
I recently purchased a IIsi but it didn't include a monitor. 
[...] I am trying to use it with an OptiQuest Q53 monitor, I was wondering
if anyone had used a IIsi with either of these have gotten them to work.

About that, I don't know.

I was also wondering what Apple monitors work with the IIsi, or even non-apple
monitors.

IMHO, the Apple M1212 Colour Monitor goes very well with a IIsi. Same
design, nice pivot stand ofv the same width and curvature as the IIsi
front, etc. I recommend/plug it strongly.

good luck!

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Re: Connecting Macs via serial ports

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So I need a DIN8-DIN8 null-modem solution.  That seems to be the same as 
a printer cable on an old Mac.

Here's the PinOut of the MiniDin8 Mac printer cable:

1 HSo red HSi 2
2 HSi yellow HSo 1
4 GND light blue GND 4
3 TxD- black RxD- 5
6 TxD+ green RxD+ 8
5 RxD- dark blue TxD- 3
8 RxD+ pink TxD+ 6

Signals are reversed, as thou can see.

good luck!

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Re: broadband for Mac IIci...revisited

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 I have no way of getting OT on to my IIci unless someone wants to 

The images on the Apple site will fit on a floppy.  It's a pain, but
bask in the nostalgia.

Or, if you have a printercabe or PhoneNet, you can hook them up to
eachother over the serialport, using good old AppleTalk.

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Re: SCSI Disk Mode w/ PB150

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Hi all,

I am having some issues with SCSI Disk Mode... my g/f's Powerbook 150 is
falling apart, the disk drive has serious issues and as far as I can tell,
the Printer port is dead aswell, so all I have left is using the SCSI port
to transfer her great novel over onto one of my other Macs. I'm trying to
use a HDI to D25 pin adaptor (one of those L-shaped things), and a male to
male D25 cable which connects to my PM8500. Problem is the Powerbook isn't
booting up with SCSI icon and ID screen that it's meant to, it just boots up
MacOS 7.6.1. 

 Any ideas?

Yes. Some Mac II's (like the IIci) have the possiblity to be used as an
external SCSI hatddisk. For this, you need to remove a jumper on the logic
board, called 'ROM select'. Normaly booting the Powerbook and being
connected to the switched-on but now quite numb mac II (or your PM8500, if
it has the feature) , you might be able to transfer all her stuff.

and then there's always SneakerNet :)

good luck,

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Re: SCSI Disk Mode w/ PB150

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Regarding the use of a Mac II as an external 'SCSI-drive':
I have a IIfx, just popped the hood,
 it has three jumper
 points, two near the ROM SIMM itself, labelled  J103
 (which is connected)

I don't know/don't have an fx, but I'd just give it a try with removing J103.

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Re: Asante micro asanteprint

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Clark wrote:
In the Shiva Net Serial, IIRC, they require AC in and use it to get + 
and minus voltage internally.  The minus supply is needed for the 
serial output.  A more modern design would likely use an inverter to 
generate the negative supply from the positive.  I suspect a number 
of modems do the same thing.

Well, yep, there ya go. Off to All Electronics, it is, then.

And I don't even know what an Asante micro asanteprint IS , other than that
it was obviously made by a company called Micro print.

ehm, that was supposed to be a joke :)

It's made by a company called Asante, an old name in Mac networking.

It is an Ethernet to LocalTalk bridge.  It was produced specifically 
for connecting older LocalTalk printers to iMacs and newer Macs that 
don't have LocalTalk.

I see. Cool. 

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Re: Asante micro asanteprint

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I recently got an Asante micro asanteprint through the LEM swap list. I
hope to use it to get my vintage appletalk network Macs talking to their
PPC ethernet brethren.

The problem is... it don't work! [...]

Here's the rub. The wall wart that was sent with the device outputs 12
VDC. The device specs say input should be 12 VAC. Before I drive out to
All Electronics (it *is* nice to live within driving distance of them)
for a 12 VAC wall wart, does anyone know if there's anything inside the
asanteprint that needs AC, or does it just get rectified to DC inside
there anyway?

Yes, AFAIK, AC from a wall-wart to digital/consumer electronics gets
rectified to DC inside
there anyway? The fun part is that mostly (with a common 'double rectiefier
bridge' in there) you can still feed the device with DC, although it states
it wants AC. 

But that does not always hold true, perhaps due to the use of other
rectifier tricks or maybe because of the voltage loss of 0.6 Volts over the
(unused) diodes. Sorry :)

I'm inclined to believe that it does require AC [...]

I'm also inclined to suggesting that indeed you try to stick to how it was
meant :) Other than this wall wart thing, my guess is that a whole bunch of
network things can be wrong.

And I don't even know what an Asante micro asanteprint IS , other than that
it was obviously made by a company called Micro print.


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Re: Apple two page monochrome monitor

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Might check around and see if there are any clubs
nearby that might want a dirt cheap setup to spiff
up their newsletter. 

My impression that 5 of these in a row would be perfect for the control
room of a nucleair power plant. 
It fits: both are hugh, cheap, outdated an dangerous if dropped... :)

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Re: more learning experiences

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Teri wrote:
I tried a disk swap today.  
[...]
 Here's the problem: I can't get Free PPP to work.
I managed to fix Mac TCP (which had a problem with an invisible file).  

I had this invisible file too. It turned out to be MacTCP itself. Once
replaced by a visible MacTCP, it came back invisible after restart. Having
done that 10 times, I changed it's attributes (unchecked 'invisible')  with
the program FileBudy 2.2, gave it a new MacTCP-Icon, restarted, and all was
well.

 Any other ideas?

This one will keep you busy :)

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Re: more learning experiences

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Teri reflected:
I'm starting to feel like someone with a yard full of old cars, just to
have enough spare parts to keep one going *grin*!

Yeah, I know the situation : 10 pieces of Technojunk sitting around, each
working at 80%, and ya still want to believe that you have the
functionality of 8 good ones, don't you?! :)
I used to have that also with Hammond organs - and that came pretty close
to the 'yard full of cars'! 
Only frequent moving will invoke cure. 'Re: more learning experiences' indeed.

good luck,

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Re: more learning experiences

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At 12:35 +0200 on 26/05/02, mart wrote:

Teri wrote:
I tried a disk swap today.
[...]
 Here's the problem: I can't get Free PPP to work.
I managed to fix Mac TCP (which had a problem with an invisible file).

I had this invisible file too. It turned out to be MacTCP itself. Once
replaced by a visible MacTCP, it came back invisible after restart. Having

Probably because you have Open Transport installed and turned on...

In Teri's case, maybe. 
In mine, not, because my Mac has never seen any OT software. But I think
you're pretty close, because the thing with the invisible MacTCP occured
after an upgrade from 7.1 to 7.5.5 (sorry, need it :), at a point where the
Mac actually asked for the installation of OT. I don't know if OT belonged
to 7.5.5, but if so, I deleted that.

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LC to VGA - add. remark (was: Mac LC II help needed)

[mart]

Hi,

Rereading some of this thread, Steven wrote, somewhere halfway:

Going back to my main objective here...Like I said, I know this 17 Mac
monitor will work on the LC II, directly.  However it won't work through the
switch box..  I don't care of the 640X480 limit, as long as I get most of
it. 

So, Steven knows it works. Suppose he's willing to open and hotrod the
switchbox, I could imagine rerouting only the three sense pins. Leading
them to a 3 pole 2 way switch, it then is possible to select these sense
pinnings:
switch pos 1: the three sense pins route to the internal of the switch box,
maintaining it's functionality;
switch pos 2: to a small 'experimenters corner', where the connections for
the LC (prev. posting) can be figured out.

I'll stop now :)

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Re: LC to VGA - add. remark

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Steven wrote:
I am not using one of the switches.  I've always wondered if I could snip a
wire or two?
[snip]
Thinking outloud here...maybe I can create this Y-adaptor using a toggle
switch (again I have no idea what I am talking about...it sounds good)?

Well, yes. I suggested that all of what you want can be incorporated in the box:

 Suppose he's willing to open and hotrod the switchbox, I could imagine
 rerouting only the three sense pins. Leading them to a 3 pole 2 way 
 switch, it then is possible to select these sense pinnings:
 switch pos 1: the three sense pins route to the internal of the switchbox,
 maintaining it's functionality;
 switch pos 2: to a small 'experimenters corner', where the connections for
 the LC (prev. posting) can be figured out.


To me, it seems that we have exactly the same idea here: a toggle switch.

Here is, once again running for the ASCII-art Award of the Week, what I
mean in the above:

cable   conn. on Switchbox.  new, additional internals
from LC.
 |  switch   exp. corner:
 == ---|=|
   |   |-- --| o-o-- GND
---|  |   |  |-(4)--//--o===o---//--
   |  |   |  |   :  diode (1N4148)
   |  |   |  |   : o-o---||---
   |  |  |  |-(7)--//--o===o---//--   |
   |  |   |  |   : |
   |  |   |  |   : o-o-
---|  |   |  |-(10)-//--o===o---//-- 
   |   |-- --|  
 == ---|=|
 |

note 1: '//' = cut in existing wiring, inserting the switch
so that //-- = back to usual wiring in switchbox

note 2: toggle switch = '3 pole, single throw' 

have fun,

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Re: Mac LC II help needed

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Mark B. replied:
 As I discovered early on any switch for Mac monitors has
 to be able to direct all the lines to the Mac (including the sense
 pins that tell it what monitor type it is). I manage now by having
 several MAc to PC adapters on them (since I use a PC monitor anyway)
 which fools the Mac into thinking it has a monitor attached even when
 it isn't.

This sound like a good solution to me. Just fool the LCII. I'd say:
shortcut the sensing pins in the proper way (depending on desired
resolution). 

Is this LC II upgradeable?  Can a newer video card be put in this so that it
could recognize this higher speed monitor (I really don't know what I am
talking about...).  

You could, as http://www.lowendmac.com/video/lc/index.html shows, but
there's no place, since the IIe card occupies your PDS slot.

The only thing I need this LC II is to play my old 5.25 Apple IIe disks.   

I took a look at it on LEM, and I must say: a rather nifty device :)

If only a Y-adaptor was created that I could plug into the back
of the monitor, sending 1 cable to the LC II, sending the other to the
switchbox..

Yes, but you'd have to build it. Have some info here, but read on.

If this LC II is upgradeable (I only have the 256k VRAM), I am willing to
spend the extra money, just so I can avoid the clutter.


LEM says:  The video circuitry was also tweaked to better server those
using VGA and multisync monitors.
video: 256 KB VRAM, expandable to 512 KB; supports 512x382 and 640x480
resolutions (must have 512 KB VRAM for 8-bits at 640x480)

Having read this, it is important to check if your 17 monitor can do
640x480 at 256 colours. If so, it makes sense to proceed with the
Y-adaptor.

hope to hear,

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Re: Mac LC II help needed

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Now the sh*t has hit the fan. 

 Having read this, it is important to check if your 17 monitor can do
 640x480 at 256 colours. If so, it makes sense to proceed with the
 Y-adaptor.

Just checked the Monitors control panel, and yepper, it can handle it.

Any recommendations on this Y-adaptor?  I have a few monitor cables that I
purchased off of eBay last year (so I can have the Mac go to the switch
box).  I also have a friend that's an expert on electronics/soldering.  If
we just match up the wires and solder them together, will this work?

I very much think so. Here are the connectors, soldering sides (!!),
preferrably viewed in a monospace typeface:

VGA:

\1   2   3   4   5 /  
 \ 6   7   8   9  10  /
  \ 11  12  13  14  15   /

Mac:

\  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8  /
 \   9  10  11  12  13  14  15   /


Connections are as follows:

VGA :
1 Red
2 Green
3 Blue
4 GND
5 -
6 GND of Red
7 GND of 
8 GND of 
9 (no pin)
10 GND of Sync
11 GND when used as Colour mon.
12 GND when used as B/W mon.
13 H Sync
14 V Sync
15 -

Mac:
1 GND of Red
2 Red
3 -
4 sense pin 0
5 Green
6 GND of Green
7 sense pin 1
8 -
9 Blue
10 sense pin 2
11 GND of Sync
12 V Sync
13 GND of Blue 
14 GND of Sync
15 H Sync

For starters, connect all three the sensing pins (Mac pins 1,4 and 7)
together and then to GND of Sync (VGA pin 11 and or 14). See if that works.
Fat chance it does :)

BIG question here.  The 1705 monitor requires a special cable.  The end that
plugs into the monitor, looks like a PC plug, while the other end is a
standard Mac cable.  Will a PC cable work on the Mac?  I know both ends are
smaller, but I have the adaptors/etc.

You can check if your cable follows the above specs. Remenber to mirror the
drawings above, because, as said, they represent the soldering side.

I'd build this single cable first. Works neatly; HF doesn't like
spider-like wire-messes. If it works, you then know for sure and you can
easily proceed to a switchbox, or integrate the findings in the existing
one.

hope to hear,

-mart
 


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LC to VGA (was Re: Mac LC II help needed)

[mart]

Scott mumbled to himself:
As soon as I can build/find an adapter to attach my LC to a VGA monitor, 
I'm going to set up a dual-floppy only web server.

I iust saw one flying by, quite low. Remember it requires 512k Video RAM
and the sense pinnings are not final, yet.

have fun soldering,

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Erratum 2 Re: Mac LC II help needed

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I wrote:
 connect all three the sensing pins [...] together and then to GND.

I dug up some more, and it seems that the above is wrong. All three to GND
stands for 21 RGB.

More likely:

Plain 640x480 VGA needs 'extended sense pin code 23':  connect 7 to 10,
nothing to ground.
640x480 VGA on a 17 Mac Multiscan monitor needs 'extended sense pin code
11':  a diode pointing from 7 to 10, and pin 4 to ground. For the diode, a
1N4148 or even a plain 1N4001 will do.

My final conclusion about Multiscan: All these sense pin arangements are
meant to tell the Mac what's hooked up to it. The Mac then starts
transmitting the right video data for that. Receiving this data, the
Multiscan in turn is smart enough to figure out what the Mac assumes as
mon. type.

Hm. Crap.

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Re: LCIII - needs TLC

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Mark wrote:
This thing has had something spilt in it. This looks like a 
dishwasher job, anyone remember the key points?

I suppose you're talking about the case. I don't think there were any
catches or the like. Fro this list, Jack Honeycutt just put his Macs in the
dishwasher and returned quite enthousiastic. Personally, I'd try not to
overheat.

good luck,

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Re: Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(

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I exclaimed:
 my Mac and me are still in trouble.
 [etc. etc.]

Jeff replied:
System 6 rescue disk on a System 7.5.5 OS?

A universal install of System 6, togeher with some utilities, like
SCSI-probe, DMM  Norton. Being able to boot a IIci with that, does that
sound odd to you?

I had a Sony hard disk mouted externally to a Compact Mac that took hours to
copy its little 20 megs of content to the Compact's internal hard drive.

Mine's problem was the SCSI controller card on the back of the Sony was
dying,
as was the platter's media.

I notice the resemblance, yes. Did you also put a Post-it over the progress
bar so that progress at least becomes noticable?

I got it rescued before it died.

Gives hope :)

You may want to hook another internal up and the troubled external, boot
with a System 7.5.5 boot disk and get it copied, if it'll mount.

I'll try this. Have to make one, but that's not a real problem, besides the
download. So you say that an internal with OS 7.5.5 has better chances to
boot a 1 GB with damaged driver software / desktop file ?

Or use the System 6 disk, if it'll mount the bad drive, 

Nope, freezes halfway the mount.

and copy, quick!

Indeed. Got a fresh, empty drive standby now. Thank you enormous for your
reply, Jeff.

-mart



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Re: Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(

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Jeff:
System 6 rescue disk on a System 7.5.5 OS?

me:
A universal install of System 6, togeher with some utilities, like
SCSI-probe, DMM  Norton. Being able to boot a IIci with that, does that
sound odd to you?

the pickle:
Sounds workable to me...

For booting a IIci, yes, but for mounting this sorry 1 GB piece, no.

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Big Problems with 1 GB HD are solved!

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the Big problems with the 1 GB HD are over!

I got it rescued; Under 7.5.5, SunTar didn't freeze the Mac and let me
mount the bad drive. I copied everything, working at normal speeds. 

Then I 'washed' it's internal with HD SC Setup 7.5.3 form Gamba's place.
Clean as a whistle, Sir! It will remain under close observation for a
while.

Thank you, list, Jeff and SunTar!

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Video PinOuts schematics update

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Remember that I said I would put together a monitor gizmo. 

Well, it's quite interesting, all that Video PinOut mumbo jumbo. Got to the
part of the adventure where diodes are placed between the 3 sense pins,
used in particular with newer Multiscan monitors. Complicates the design of
a supersimple switchable connector a bit, but hope to test the prototype
one of these days. Patience :)

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Big Problems with 1 GB HD still unsolved :(

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Hi all,

my Mac and me are still in trouble. 

Because there wasn't a single reply to my earlier posting, which is unusual
on the vintage list, I take the liberty of reposting it. 

For a year now, I have a second HD 1 GB Quantum (RZ26L) next to my 7.1
IIci, as a storage drive. 
Now, I can't properly mount it anymore. 

Details:
1. It has been formatted with Disc Manager Mac 2.24. It has been
intensively used, until recently always correct. But 3 months ago, I 
installed 7.5.5 on it , so I could run some programs I needed. I'd simply
change startup disk, which worked. But at shutdown, under 7.5.5, running
from the external, it now froze. End of game the hard way, that usually
meant. 

2. The Mac freezes during startup when the external is already on. Using a
system 6 resque floppy disk, the Mac does not freeze and Disc Manager Mac
sees the drive on ID 0 and can write a new driver. When, after restart, I
switch on the drive and the system 6 reque disk attempt to mount it, it
gives this disk need minor repairs. After OK, it rattles for a minute and
freezes. Restart, back into DMM: SCSI ID 1  -no driver. And so on.

3. The 7.1 'first aid' disk turns  V  -  E  -  R  -  Y  slow once the
external comes in, but does not completely freeze and actually decides to
do a desktop rebuild! A stunning 32 hours that takes... Quite interesting
but utterly useless, because after restart, it becomes clear that it was
all in vain: same problems as under 2.

I know I'm a moron, forgetting regular maintenance, but what can I do to
recover my precious documents?

IOW: H E L P !!

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IIsi power requirements needed

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Hi listers,

I have a IIsi logic board (and only that) that I want to put to use, and
need to mate it with a power supply, preferrably as small as possible. I
have some rather small candidates, but too small would be unwise.

Can somebody give me the power requirements of the IIsi, as they appear on
the PS unit itself, in Amps for both +/- 5V and 12V ?

Thanks,

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ISA LocalTalk card ?

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At the end of the discussion 'Nearly a gross of IIci's - It's not
hardware', Cameron Kaiser wrote about his home network:

On the LocalTalk segment is a 486 PC (really! with an ISA LocalTalk card) 

A few weeks ago, I found an ISA card with a MiniDIN 8 connector. I
thought:'Nah, couldn't possible be...' and put it in a shoebox.
Reading the above, I'd really like to know if this is an ISA localtalk
card. It's rather small, about 4 x 1,5 inch.

Description of the board, starting at the connector plate:
- some small SMD components, an electrolytic cap and a transistor near the
MiniDIN
- followed by a square 4 x 12 pin SMD 'Mustek' chip, labelled:
 GA1904A
 T4.2
 9403
- then, left of the middle: 'Made in the R.O.C of Taiwan' and 'GI1904A REV
B' in that typical slightly distorted Times Roman typeface :)
- a 3 position dipswitch box, followed by 8 drawings of what the settings
mean. They look like IRQ or RAM settings to me (22B, 26B, 2AB, 2EB, 32B,
36B, 3AB, 3EB).

Is this what I hope it is? The end of ShoeNet? Any clue?

Thanks!!

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Re: IIsi power requirements needed

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Thank you very much, Ken. Just what I needed. I'm converting a beaten up
M1212 monitor into an all-in-one. I've done some plastering and it's almost
ready to recieve the IIsi l/b underneath, right behind the pivot. 
I'll call it the 373, in line with the 575 etc. model names. 3 because it's
an '030 and 73 because that's just my lucky number :)

I now know that I have to wait a bit for a suitable PS. 

I asked:
Can somebody give me the power requirements of the IIsi ?

Ken replied:
Model number: APS-06
Apple Part Number: 699-0567

Output:
+5V  6.8A
+12V 0.80A
-12V 0.3A
[..]

Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.

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Re: ISA LocalTalk card ?

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James S Jones replied:
It's not a LocalTalk card. It's a proprietary card for a hand-held 
Mustek scanner. 
[..]
www.scanner-drivers.com/drivers/7/7190.htm - 23k


thanks James and Clark!

ShoeNet forever, it is then!

So, anybody interested in finding this piece of antique in his or her mail?
You've got till next week to say yes.

See ya!

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Re: Drivers for Color OneScanner 600/27?

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Ken:
Actually, a hard day of web Goggling ended up with my
finding an archive that had the disk images of the
original software package that came with the 600/27,
so I grabbed a copy of that. 

Good!

I've got the scanner hooked up to a PB3400c, and the
install went fine - but the computer locks up every time
I try to scan about halfway through - it does the
preview scan just fine, but locks on actual scan.
Strange.  My feeling is it's a conflict somewhere.

or just plain corrupted software?

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Re: Drivers for Color OneScanner 600/27?

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Ken Strayhorn:
Anyone have a copy of the driver for the Color OneScanner
600/27?  

What this thing needs is the 'Ofoto' scanner software, IIRC.
Did you try that ?

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Video PinOuts schematics

[mart]

Me:
For those who want them next week, just reply to me with something like the
above. For future use, we'll find a site (close to the MacMissile-site :)
and post the URL here.

Pickle:
When you're ready, e-mail it to me and I can post it somewhere.

Thanks, will do.

I've been studying these Mac, VGA, SoG, BNC pinouts and schematics for a
while, and I have one question: does Multiscan (only) use the 3 sense
pinnings to tell the computer what kind of monitor is attached or is there
more going on? Can it be that I heard something about I2C? 

If so, I can put together a configurable connector, with a table of
corresponding screen sizes. If not, it's not so simple as it looked :)

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Re: Mac IIci video... hmmm

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--- Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, for everyone who suspected that the IIci would
 work on a PC 
 multiscan screen with an adapter that allowed me to
 define it as fixed 
 res I can categorically say it doesn't, more is the
 pitty.

You must use an adapter that seperates the sync
signals from the green signal. PC monitors use
seperate horizontal and vertical sync signals on
dedicated pins. Apple chose sync on green to make
room for their hardwired sense pin system.

For the hotrodders amongst us, I have a schematic for conversion from VGA
to RGB with sync on green. It was published in the German magazine Elektor,
july 2001. Not much hassle: some capacitors, a transistor and a small IC.
They presented it with 3x BNC conn. out, but I can redo the schematic for a
normal Mac video connector, if anyone's interested.

To me, it seems that the alternative for Mark is a Nubus Colour card. Both
mine can do multiscan. Is that common?

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Re: Mac IIci video... hmmm

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Oops!

I wrote:
For the hotrodders amongst us, I have a schematic for conversion from VGA
to RGB with sync on green. 

For Mark, this is the wrong way around. His Mac gives SoG, but his monitor
connector doesn't, as he replies. Sorry!

If you could get the pin-outs for the video I could try putting it 
straight into the BNCs on my monitor. They support SoG but the D-SUB 
(evidently) doesn't.

Now it suddenly seems simple! I'll get them to ya.

 [...]on a 512x384 screen a little cramped to say the least!

Well, it definitely sounds Low End enough :)

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Re: Supra fax modem

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   V.32bis
14,400
MNP 5v.42 bis
Is this any use for a Mac SE/30, or IIsi, or IIci, Quadra 700?
Its all there box, cables, floppy, and books. I got it out of the trash.
Or should I put it back?
johnsn

Sounds like a nice partner for the SE/30: they should make a handy email
combo :)
Got one setup like that over here, and a few at friends'. No problem.

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Re: internet connectivity round three

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I have MacTCP installed.  I installed PPP 2.5, but it kicked and complained
that I didn't have OS 7.1.  Trashed it, downloaded  installed PPP 2.01.  I
still can't open a connection.  When I try to open the TCP panel to check
the settings, I get a system -39 error.  

Error -39:   'eofErr  End of file; no additional data in the format'. 

Something probably went wrong during downloading or unstuffing. Get a fresh
one. Part 1 of the webkits on Jagshouse contains all you need. 
But don't try to unstuff it on a PC, since part of the data (resource
forks) gets lost then. 

Modem seems to be plugged in and
the phone jack works fine.

I am tempted at this point, to start the Mac without extensions, trash all
the above and reinstall TCP  PPP again.  I used the instructions linked at
Gamba's site to configure TCP.  

What worked for me was to put a fresh trio of MacTCP 2.0.6 , ConfigPPP
2.0.1 and PPP 2.0.1 (chooser extension) in the system folder, then START
with configuring Mac TCP. Configure everything, starting with setting it to
'manually', fill out all the forms and when done, resetting to 'server'.
Restart, and proceed to ConfigPPP.

These CP's indeed 'get confused easily', as mentioned earlier this week on
this list, and  sometimes keep saying things like 'couldn't open PPP
preferences'. Be sure then to start from zero, trashing all the prefs and
files these little buggers made.

I do have my ISP's IP address and I set the
rest of it as per the instructions.  I did not use any modem init strings,
so I could give that a try.  

Yep.

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Re: GlobalVillage modem question

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Any idea if plugging it into a DC9V 1000mA brick will kill it?  I just
want to test it real quick.

If it wants AC, you stand a pretty good chance.  If it's a poorly regulated
DC supply, you *also* stand a pretty good chance of killing it.

the pickle

Hi all, I thought I drop in some general info on Wall Warts and Power Bricks:

Supplying DC to a device (here, the modem) that wants AC does not harm. The
full wave rectifier that apparently is there to take the AC, can also take
the DC. It merely conducts then, instead of rectifying.

The other way around cannot be done: a device that needs DC, well, needs
DC. And sometimes, it wants 'well regulated' DC, without a ripple. A
regulated DC brick usually will have some info about that on the case.

And: power supply never 'pushes' those mA's into a device; the device
always pulls. A 1000mA supply just does the job a bit 'less hot'.

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Re: Wonder why they don't do that with Mac's

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 I don't know if you could get 
them to fit very well. Most of the error messages are one or two sentences 
of one line.

In Resedit, you can also change the size of the windows, in order to let
the message fit. 
Just by dragging the corner. 

I use to do some 'customizations' when I prepare HD's or install disks for
friends. These usually come to the surface *month* later :)

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Re: Wonder why they don't do that with Mac's

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Terry wrote:
In Japan, they are considering replacing the impersonal and
unhelpful Microsoft Error messages with Haiku poetry
messages. 
[...]
the essence of Zen:

Serious error.

All shortcuts have disappeared.

Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

[etc]

This is great fun!

 Is it OK with you if put these (and more) into a system 7.1 and a system 6?

Q: are these the Haiku's that the Japanese are about to use, or your own?

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Re: So, the modem....

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I have found a 56k USR FaxModem at a price I consider to be approaching 
reasonable that is supported in the Mac. It uses a standard CCL for dial 
up that, from what I can tell, was last modified in 1996. Big question 
is will it work wit OT/PPP in Sys 7.1?


If you can dig up the modem init string for it, probably yes.

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Re: Personal LWntr printing on LC475, CCII

[mart]

Bertie et. al. wrote:
I guess I have to keep a lookout for a new toner cartridge, like the
fixyourownprinter.com guy (Moe) suggested. Funny that they don't sell them.

It might help to know that a whole range of HP laser printers used the very
same cartridge. Like the HP Laserthing IIIp and 2100, which are *years*
apart.This may extend your search area to PC suppliers as well.

FWIW, the fuser tested okay with an ohm meter when it cooled down. I still
suspect the spongy black roller below the fuser assembly because is keeps
getting filled with toner dust. Someone pointed out (JEff G.?, Greg E.?)
that they might need replacing.

I doubt that. The spongy black roller is there for paper transport. The
brick-red rollers (one hard, one soft) on the fuser assembly are used to
press the freshly baked ink onto the paper. Both have wipers, that are held
against these roller with springs and screws. You might want to check them.

But then again, a new cartridge might help. I can't say.

good luck,

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Re: Mac II fan

[mart]

Marten wrote:
Considering the fact that one can savely disable the fan in a LC as long 
as one doesn't use the hard disk (often), I wondered about the Mac II, 
which also has a 16 Mhz 68020 but in a much larger box.
What if I limit the machine to maximum 2 nubus cards and limit the use 
of the hard disk to a minimum? Or is that gigantic power supply (psu) 
that produces all the heat in this model?

Not all. All parts that have electronics in/on them use energy and thus
produce heat. PSU's are never 100% efficient in theri energy conversion.
I'd say 75% Mac heat, 25% psu heat.

The mobo with the CPU and the RAM comes first, is my guess, followed by the
psu and the HD.  Chips on Nubus cards can also get pretty warm. I'd snoop
around in there and try to determine what gets hot and what not.

Taking out cards frees you from their heat and theoretically also form a
bit of psu heat, but that will only be marginal. 

Also, with electronics: mostly, they don't die instantly form overheating.
But the warmer they get, the shorter they live.


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Re: Ripping Video

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And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence) 
selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site.

Coincidence indeed ! But I do know a Q700 for sale here in Amsterdam.
Heavily finned '040 and an Ethernet card in there. And the usual ugly Q700
case. Off list whereabouts..

Back to video ripping on vintage macs: Is there a Nubus video capture card
in existance? Anything Marten could try on his IIfx od IIci? 

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Re: Personal LWntr printing on LC475, CCII

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Teuila  Bertie Hall wrote:
 The problem is that all pages are dark, not real dark, but the page is
sort of grey. 

If I'm not mistaken, The NTR version of the PLW has a slider control to
adjust the amount of toner (Regular PLW's don't have it).

Open the engine room door; it should be located just above the toner cartridge. 

good luck,

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Re: Ripping Video

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  And what about the 660AV? I just found a M.Bakker (probably coincidence)
selling one for 45 euro on a secondhand mac site.

Coincidence indeed ! But I do know a Q700 for sale here in Amsterdam.
Heavily finned '040 and an Ethernet card in there. And the usual ugly Q700
case. Off list whereabouts..

Huh? That case looks a lot like the IIci. I don't think it is ugly. 

The IIci case is a beauty (albeit somewhat boxy). Lining, striping,
details; all is well. The Q700 case has the same dimensions, but the
horizontal striping on the front is replaced by an ugly row of smaller
ones. It was redesigned to stand like a mini-tower. In my eyes, they only
got halfway.

I have one myself, though I don't use it because of the limited memory 
upgrade potential.  

You have a Q700 yourself or a IIci?

What do you mean with 'finned' btw?

The processor having folded metal cooling fins attached to it. 

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Re: Ripping Video

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[...]
I wanna get myself a big quadra with 72 pin simms, so I can fill 'r up 
real good (i've got some spare 72-pin simms).

So that's going to be an AV Quadra, I guess.

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Re: Another IIci question

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Teri Pittman wrote:
I'm starting to think the
wisest course for this IIci is to max it out on RAM, play around with it a
bit, and keep my eye out for a cheap Power Mac or G3 or 4.

A lot less costly but very much worth the effort is the addition of an '030
accellerator card like the 'Diimo 030 cache card'. Runs on 50 Mhz. Got one
in here; makes the OS 7.1 on this IIci really zippy :)

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Eudora eats outgoing attachments too! (was: incoming...)

[mart]

Here's a trick I did on an attachment you sent me (yes it chews up 
outgoing ones too). 

Aha!  Mark, that's good to know. Although I have succesfully sent pictures
with this Eudora recently. I'll dig in to it. I have some difficulties with
Photoshop 3 and creator stuff too. That also might interfere..

I highlighted the data portion, copied and pasted it 
into a BBEdit file and saved it with the extension .bin. I then threw it 
onto Stuffit Expander, worked fine. I think it was BinHex or Macbinary 
but it might work.

BBEdit? Thanks!

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Eudora attachments RoundUp!

[mart]

Hi!

The Eudora 1.3.1 problems with incoming attachments are solved! Here's a
summary:

1. The config menu:
I see no difference/improvement with the choics 'application TEXT files
belong to'. 
Eudora still encapsulates all the data into long multipart garbage mails.

2. the use of the decoder 'uucd', as kindly suggested my Mikael Jolkkonen.
He said: 'what you have there is not a JPEG file, it is a MIME/Base64
encoding of a JPEG file, just as it says in the header. It is _supposed_ to
be text. You can not open it in a graphics program without decoding it
first. '

I downloaded the decoding program 'uucd' ,version 2.5.1 by Laurent Hagimont.
When a bunch of mails come in that used to be one jpg, I transfer them all
from the inbox into a new Eudora-folder called 'for uucd' and later let
uucd decode what's in that folder. It then separates the header, combines
all parts to one picture. Do some chekmarking, delete some leftoversand
there you are! 

Great!!

Thank you, Mikael!

I like it. And it is - indeed - quite 'vintage' this way.

'uucd' can be found at http://pobox/~riff in the shareware section,
although it is freeware.

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Eudora eats all incoming attachments!

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Dear list,

I have a slightly annoying problem. I use Eudora 1.3.1 under sytem 7.1 with
great pleasure, but if somebody sends me a picture as attachment, Eudora
eats it and spits it out as below:

--7372ECABF546797AEF2CFB90
Content-Type: image/jpeg; x-mac-type=4A504547; x-mac-creator=4A565752;
 name=SomePicture.JPG
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: Document
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename=SomePicture.JPG
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etc., etc...

Is there anything I can/should do to fix this? I set the Eudora
configuration to save attacments to a folder called 'inbox', but as you
see, it never does.

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Re: Please be careful not to quote *too much* of the original message

[mart]

  There are three lines of advertising which is ok, but eight lines of
  information that could be condensed to a url on a web page.

Dont read them, how hards that? Amazing how many dont.:) You might have
the ability to hide them in your email programs prefs. Lastly, some
are useful.

  Most of the messages posted here are six to ten lines long and the 
tag is 20
  lines long.

You might cut them out of your replies if your going to
complain about it otherwise its 40 lines long

  Another observation.


Gentlemen




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Re: Fwd: Mac IIci OS restore

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Hi All,
This is my first post.
I was recently given a Mac IIci, everything seemed to be fine when I got it,
until I proceeded to trash the OS. I obviously deleted a few files that I
shouldn't have :-)

Oops!

I don't have the original setup disks that the machine came with nor any
other Mac software. I downloaded System 7.5.3 from Apple. My problem is that
all of the files are in Mac binary format and I only have Linux PCs at my
disposal. I can mount HFS diskettes and I have the macutils package for Linux
installed. Does anyone know of a way that I can re-install the Mac with my
current resources, or should I just find someone with the OS setup disks. 

Ross, 

I'm fairly shure that the FAQ that accompanies this list describes how to
Make Mac system disks from downloaded system files, using a PC. I did it:
all well. Maybe you'd like to start the experiment using system 6.0.8. It's
a LOT smaller (2 disks) :)

(If not, I have a print-out of the original email from fast-alex that
describes it.) 

See one of the pickles postings for the FAQ-adress in the sig.

On Linux, I wouldn't know the how-to's.



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Re: 12 Monitor

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Hi.

Can anyone tell me the secret to getting the cover
off a 1990 Macintosh 12 RGB Display?

You got it off already?
IIRC, you have to rotate it slightly upward while pulling, because there's
a finder holding front and back together on the top side, halfway.

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where is 'Inside Macintosh' ?

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Hi all,

I went over to both Apple's ftp- and website, looking for the (older)
'Inside Macintosh' volumes. No result. Does anybody on the list know where
to find them on the web?

thanks,

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Re: where is 'Inside Macintosh' ?

[mart]

I could be very wrong here, but I don't think they were ever published in
electronic form for download or viewing.

My local public library has 'em, though.   :-)

 Rob

Seems that a trip to the/my library would be appropriate here! One almost
forgets... 

Thanks! 

But I'm curious what the others come up with...

Hi all,

I went over to both Apple's ftp- and website, looking for the (older)
'Inside Macintosh' volumes. No result. Does anybody on the list know where
to find them on the web?


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Re: MO Drive, general question, anecdotes

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Thanks for the suggestion about SunTar 2.3. I found it on Tucows and d/l it.
I'll keep it handy and try it when I get serious about the MO drive. Maybe it
will work on other things too?


The - well written - readme's will tell you all it can do, but then again,
I never had any use for the program :) 

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Re: CD burning with ancient Macs (was: ZIP)

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From the replies to my posting about using a CD burner on something like
IIci, it seems that it can be done very well! 

Good to know, thank you! 

If I run into a 2-speed SCSI model, I know what to do now.

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Re: Microsoft Works - alternatives?

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I wrote:
I would like to ask: are there any alternatives to Works 3, and preferrably
one that could read the Works 3 database format ??

Dan (amongst others) replied:
You'd probably be very happy with ClarisWorks 3 or 4 on a Vintage Mac. 
Not sure, but suspect it can import MS Works files.

I was under the impression that ClarisWorks 3 and MSWorks3 are virtually
the same, except for the maker and maybe a few minor diff's. So I never
considered ClarisWorks 3. Are they different?

In the mean time, I've downloaded a Filemaker 2.1.

But it's in French... (nouveau, ouvrir, fermer, ...)

I know French, but it would probably make ME the bottleneck :)

Anybody who knows a place for FileMaker (Pro) 2.1?

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Re: Mac II drive clearance

[mart]

I have a question. [...] I need to know what the 
clearance between the side of the case and the side of the drive is in 
both machines, the IIsi and the IIci. Basically the adapter sticks out 
about 3/16 (4mm for metric folks) from the side fot the drive 
immediately behind the drive unit. I basically need to know if there is 
enough clearance in either machine to take the drive.

Mark Benson

 * I went in! * (hm, sounds good)

In the IIci, there's 8 mm between case and drive, used for the plastic
assembly that holds the drives. The assembly ends flush with the back of
the drive, so that's an okidoki. The assembly is clicked to the case with a
large 'click finger', very next to the SCSI cable. So you *might* have to
Frankenstein something off that finger. 

But I think you should go for an IIsi, since it is a way cool machine and
matches your round-faced stack of  LC's much better :)

-mart


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Re: Mac II drive clearance

[mart]

Mark, do I detect an English accent?


No, that's just him being a bit ill at the moment :)

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Re: Apple 15 Multiscan Repair

[mart]

George wrote:
 My 15 goes yellow after about 20 min. (due to heat?). 

Very likely, yes. The same heat that caused the sloder joints to crack in
the first place: some parts expand, others a bit less. (It took the Philips
Monitor Division 3 years to find out, in 1996. )

Rarely goes into the 'red' phase, or even green.

Rarely, but not never? then an inspection over there would't hurt.

I spent Cdn. $85 to change the analog board. Got the
second built-in speaker to work for 20 days longer
than the 90 day warranty. Live and learn.

If that speaker and the cable work OK on another source (e.g. your
hifi-set), then the amp on the board has gone to audio heaven. Which is
part of a Cdn. $85 pity. 

If  the speaker is dead and it's is oval-rectangular (2 by 4), well, you
can have them very cheap these days. (I bought 50 of them for about 1 US$
each)

Some audiophiles I know have a saying: 'Electronics work on white smoke. If
 you let the white smoke out, it no longer works. Putting the white smoke
back in is what we're good at'

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Re: MO Drive, general question, anecdotes

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Dave wrote:
I bought a NuDesign  Magneto Optical drive for my MacIIx years ago and had
nothing but problems with it.  
[...]
Most of my 25 disks are unreadable now and I can't even retrieve the data
from them. Has any one else had such miserable luck with MO drives, and is
there any good drivers out there for them? 

Maybe, just maybe, the freeware utilitiy 'SunTar 2.3' is something for you.
Just about the weirdest program I've ever seen...

I quote the readme:
'its original purpose was to communicate, acting as a bridge between a UNIX
workstation and the Mac if a few, minimal hardware requirements are met:
that is,  a physical medium (a mass storage device) must be connected to
both machines. That's usually easy with floppy disks but almost any SCSI
device may be used instead.
  Finally, handling devices requires some bookkeeping: this may be seen as
a third personality; some time ago I used suntar to resurrect a SyQuest
cartridge which, according to Norton Utilities, was completely lost. That's
because all available utilities access the disk at a rather high level, and
can't solve even the simplest problems arising at a lower level.'

It's a 368k folder, readme's included.

Don't know where it came from, so let me know if you want it.

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