Re: External CD ROM Drives
--- Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heyyy... that rang a BIG bell inside my head. :) I do have a Pioneer CD CHanger called LaserMemory, a 1624 I guess (don't remember well right now), and I havent been able to connect it to ANYTHING except a WinTel machine running Windows For Workgroups 3.11 several years ago. Have not been able to run it EVEN on Linux. This'll probably make it work on the Mac. My Pioneer LaserMemory is a DRM-604x. Standard Pioneer (and maybe others) 6 disc magazine, 4x speed. Thing to remember on these is the discs go in upside down as compared to the Pioneer audio CD changers that use the same magazines. It will be total Fandemonium! August (Fri) 5th, (Sat) 6th (Sun) 7th, 2005 http://www.fandemonium.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
Quoting Dylan McDermond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've found that just about any SCSI CD-ROM will work with my older Macs - as long as I use the proper extension. The one from 7.6, I believe, would work with any CD-ROM drive. If you end up needing the extension, let me know and I can email it to you. -Dylan Thanks for the helpful comments (everyone). I assume then, it's just a case of having an external box with a DB25 connector. Or is it DB15? Nathan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the helpful comments (everyone). I assume then, it's just a case of having an external box with a DB25 connector. Or is it DB15? DB25, but watch out for ones made to connect to a PC's parallel port. The other connector to look for is a CEN50, which looks like a parallel port on a printer, but wider. It will be total Fandemonium! August (Fri) 5th, (Sat) 6th (Sun) 7th, 2005 http://www.fandemonium.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
heyyy... that rang a BIG bell inside my head. :) I do have a Pioneer CD CHanger called LaserMemory, a 1624 I guess (don't remember well right now), and I havent been able to connect it to ANYTHING except a WinTel machine running Windows For Workgroups 3.11 several years ago. Have not been able to run it EVEN on Linux. Might it be that I could put it to work when connected to the loyal Mac IIci? It has 3 CD magazines of 6discs each one, would be sweet for fileserving.. :P Anyone has info on this? Thanks! -- Juan Carlos De La Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On lun, 2005-05-09 at 22:10 -0700, Gregg Eshelman wrote: Download the first item here http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/download/software/upgrades_604/ That's an older version of FWB CD-ROM Toolkit that works from at least System 7.1 through Mac OS 9.2.2. I know it works with 9.2.2 because I used it on my 7300 to run a Pioneer 6-disc CD changer. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
External CD ROM Drives
I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. A new one will be hard to come by, as well as ££ ;) Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk It will be total Fandemonium! August (Fri) 5th, (Sat) 6th (Sun) 7th, 2005 http://www.fandemonium.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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Quoting Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A new one will be hard to come by, as well as ££ ;) Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk Usually it's the first place to look of course, I just don't know the best kind to look for, given the age of the LC. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
I have used for years, not only on my old LC III (Which I currently don´t have any longer) but on my II si and II ci, an external SCSI box (Any one will do as long as you can end in the correct SCSI connector end at the mac) with a Nec MultiSpin 3x which is very old (CDs are inserted into it via a cartridge and not directly tray style), but have also tried with several other diff units, as a Ricoh MediaMaster CDR/RW I sometimes use on other equipment, and the results ahve been the same. Please notice I have been using system 7.6 on the LC III as well as the IIci/IIsi My humble 2 cents. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: External CD ROM Drives I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
Juan Carlos De La Cruz wrote: I have used for years, not only on my old LC III (Which I currently don´t have any longer) but on my II si and II ci, an external SCSI box (Any one will do as long as you can end in the correct SCSI connector end at the mac) with a Nec MultiSpin 3x which is very old (CDs are inserted into it via a cartridge and not directly tray style), but have also tried with several other diff units, as a Ricoh MediaMaster CDR/RW I sometimes use on other equipment, and the results ahve been the same. Please notice I have been using system 7.6 on the LC III as well as the IIci/IIsi My humble 2 cents. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: External CD ROM Drives I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com I own a LCIII with an external Apple 2x SCSI CD-ROM. The unit uses old cartdriges to insert the CD-ROM. When the one that I had simply blew up, I searched eBay and I got an unit (with the same characteristics) for $5. But I don't recommend that! I live in Portugal, and I paid 10 times more ($50) for shipping! And I was lucky, because it passed customs! Search on eBay for drives in UK (besides USA and Canada, that's the country that has more products for sale), and good luck! Hope I was helpful Manuel Marques - http://manuelmarque.no.sapo.pt -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD ROM Drives
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan Apple makes a couple I've used. The external 300 series, a caddy-style CD ROM where your CD fits in a plastic holder which then fits in the CD ROM; and the 600 series which is a tray-loading cd machine. Other externals can be made to work. I used FWB CD ROM Tool Kit Software which let the Mac see some types of CD ROMs not made by Apple. FWB will only work with up to OS 8, I think, before causing system problems. Jeff Facere Compositio Ex Congeries __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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J.S. Garrison wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan Apple makes a couple I've used. The external 300 series, a caddy-style CD ROM where your CD fits in a plastic holder which then fits in the CD ROM; and the 600 series which is a tray-loading cd machine. Other externals can be made to work. I used FWB CD ROM Tool Kit Software which let the Mac see some types of CD ROMs not made by Apple. FWB will only work with up to OS 8, I think, before causing system problems. Jeff Facere Compositio Ex Congeries __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 Yeps. Apple CD 300 is caddy-style, but with luck you could get the 300i unit, which is tray-loaded. I don't have a 600, but it will probably work faster. Btw, I've also used a borrowed LaCie CD-RW (when my CD-ROM unit stopped working), and it worked fine! (But don't even think of burning CDs, even on a Quadra 800 it only works in certain special conditions, and only up to 8x!) Greetings, Manuel Marques - http://manuelmarque.no.sapo.pt -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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On May 9, 2005, at 3:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about finding a CD drive to use with an LCIII that I have - I assume it will be of the external SCSI variety. Can anyone point me in the direction of one? Bear in mind that I live in the UK. Nathan I've found that just about any SCSI CD-ROM will work with my older Macs - as long as I use the proper extension. The one from 7.6, I believe, would work with any CD-ROM drive. If you end up needing the extension, let me know and I can email it to you. -Dylan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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On May 9, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Dylan McDermond wrote: I've found that just about any SCSI CD-ROM will work with my older Macs - as long as I use the proper extension. The one from 7.6, I believe, would work with any CD-ROM drive. If you end up needing the extension, let me know and I can email it to you. -Dylan Forgot to mention that I've found several at secon-hand shops, garage and surplus sales. Usually under $5 USD. -Dylan -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Gregg Eshelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A new one will be hard to come by, as well as ££ ;) Best bet would be www.ebay.co.uk Usually it's the first place to look of course, I just don't know the best kind to look for, given the age of the LC. Anything over 4x speed should work OK. Download the first item here http://www.lowendmac.com/daystar/download/software/upgrades_604/ That's an older version of FWB CD-ROM Toolkit that works from at least System 7.1 through Mac OS 9.2.2. I know it works with 9.2.2 because I used it on my 7300 to run a Pioneer 6-disc CD changer. The HDT PE2 is an older version of FWB Hard Disk Toolkit Personal Edition, which'll come in handy for formatting your hard drive. It will be total Fandemonium! August (Fri) 5th, (Sat) 6th (Sun) 7th, 2005 http://www.fandemonium.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
Well, it turns out the problem was no driver. As you suggested, I copied the driver from another Mac and on reboot the CD popped up on the desktop and worked just fine. I even put it on a boot floppy and the drive works booting from the floppy too. Thanks On May 11, 2004, at 3:47 AM, Daniel Kendell wrote: You might want to check in the Extensions folder in your system folder and make sure the Apple CDROM extension is there. If it isn't then thats why you don't get any CD icon, just copy it from your PowerBook system folder. If it is there then its something else. Yes you can use a CD-ROM drive with 7.0.1. Dan --- The Macintosh Council http://www.macintoshcouncil.tk -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
You might want to check in the Extensions folder in your system folder and make sure the Apple CDROM extension is there. If it isn't then thats why you don't get any CD icon, just copy it from your PowerBook system folder. If it is there then its something else. Yes you can use a CD-ROM drive with 7.0.1. Dan --- The Macintosh Council http://www.macintoshcouncil.tk -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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on 5/10/04 4:55 PM, Doug Anderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never used external SCSI devices before. Is my hunch that the cable is bad correct, or am I missing a config or compatibility issue? Since the cables are relatively cheap I ordered another one online so I can test my hunch. Oh, almost forgot, I have an active SCSI terminator plugged into the 300e's other SCSI port (top one). When I want to know what is the issue, I pull the terminator first. Then I set the CD ROM to SCSI ID 6. I open the System Folder on my machine to verify the existence of CD ROM Externsions. Apple CD ROM, High Sierra, ISO 9660 Then I test several different CDs. If I can't get a known drive to work at that point, I will think it's the Cable or the SCSI chip in the Mac. I verify the latter by hooking an external SCSI Hard Drive to it that I know is a working Drive. Jeff G -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
--- Doug Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip I've never used external SCSI devices before. Is my hunch that the cable is bad correct, or am I missing a config or compatibility issue? You need the Apple CD-ROM extensions. There's the CD driver itself, High Sierra, ISO-9660, Foreign File Access and I think another one. You may also want the Joliet extension from http://www.tempel.org/joliet/ = It's total Fandemonium! http://www.fandemonium.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:55:16 -0500 Doug Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when I then connect the CD-ROM drive to a Mac SE/30 running 7.5.5 using the DB25 to C50 cable no CD pops up on the desktop. I then tried the drive with a regular SE and then on a Classic. The SE and Classic were running 7.0.1 and neither indicated they were seeing the CD. I then began to suspect the cable, so I plugged the drive intoa Power Mac 7300. Doing so causes the computer to lockup after it gets to the desktop. On the compact Macs and the Powerbook I had the drive setup as device #3. Since the PM already has an internal SCSI CD on #3, I set the 300e to #5. Yes, all SCSI devices on the same bus must have different IDs. The fact that there was a conflict, though, suggests to me that the computer was seeing the external drive fine, so maybe the cable is not the problem. This suggests that you might be missing the Apple CD driver on the other systems. But did the drive work on the 7300 (which probably already has the driver installed, if it has an internal CD drive)? If the drive still doesn't work on the 7300, though, then I'd probably start to suspect the cable too. Check the pins on the 25-pin end -- I've seen these bent or broken off occasionally. -- Michael -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
My Reply follows quote. On 10/05/2004 17:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, 10 May 2004 18:55:16 -0500 Doug Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, when I then connect the CD-ROM drive to a Mac SE/30 running 7.5.5 using the DB25 to C50 cable no CD pops up on the desktop. I then tried the drive with a regular SE and then on a Classic. The SE and Classic were running 7.0.1 and neither indicated they were seeing the CD. I then began to suspect the cable, so I plugged the drive intoa Power Mac 7300. Doing so causes the computer to lockup after it gets to the desktop. On the compact Macs and the Powerbook I had the drive setup as device #3. Since the PM already has an internal SCSI CD on #3, I set the 300e to #5. Yes, all SCSI devices on the same bus must have different IDs. The fact that there was a conflict, though, suggests to me that the computer was seeing the external drive fine, so maybe the cable is not the problem. This suggests that you might be missing the Apple CD driver on the other systems. But did the drive work on the 7300 (which probably already has the driver installed, if it has an internal CD drive)? If the drive still doesn't work on the 7300, though, then I'd probably start to suspect the cable too. Check the pins on the 25-pin end -- I've seen these bent or broken off occasionally. -- Michael - In addition to making sure that all SCSI devices have different IDs, make sure that you have a terminator in the external drive. Ken -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
On May 10, 2004, at 9:02 PM, Ken wrote: In addition to making sure that all SCSI devices have different IDs, make sure that you have a terminator in the external drive. Ken All my tests were done with both an active terminator and a passive passthrough terminator on the drive. For kicks I had also tried it without any terminator. All with the same results. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
On May 10, 2004, at 7:30 PM, Michael Hackett wrote: This suggests that you might be missing the Apple CD driver on the other systems. But did the drive work on the 7300 (which probably already has the driver installed, if it has an internal CD drive)? I found a link to an Apple CD driver for System 7.5, however I've yet to find one for System 7.0.1 (and 6.0.8 for that matter). I have a couple of compact Macs running 6.0.8 and 7.0.1. I've checked the Apple old software downloads section and didn't find anything. Is it even possible to use a CD-ROM drive with Macs running 7.0.1 and earlier? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
External CD-ROM drive with vintage Macs
I've got an Apple 300e CD-ROM drive. I've got two cables, the standard DB25 to C50 and the special Powerbook connector to C50. With the PB cable the drive works with my 5300cs just fine. I put CD's in the drive and the CD pops p on the desktop and I can copy files from the CD to the PB and/or run them from CD. The 5300 is running MacOS 8.1. So I know the CD-ROM drive itself is in working order. However, when I then connect the CD-ROM drive to a Mac SE/30 running 7.5.5 using the DB25 to C50 cable no CD pops up on the desktop. I then tried the drive with a regular SE and then on a Classic. The SE and Classic were running 7.0.1 and neither indicated they were seeing the CD. I then began to suspect the cable, so I plugged the drive intoa Power Mac 7300. Doing so causes the computer to lockup after it gets to the desktop. On the compact Macs and the Powerbook I had the drive setup as device #3. Since the PM already has an internal SCSI CD on #3, I set the 300e to #5. I've never used external SCSI devices before. Is my hunch that the cable is bad correct, or am I missing a config or compatibility issue? Since the cables are relatively cheap I ordered another one online so I can test my hunch. Oh, almost forgot, I have an active SCSI terminator plugged into the 300e's other SCSI port (top one). -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IDE to SCSI bridge [was CD ROM??]
wait a minute. i'm getting confused. SCSI is wider than IDE. this bridge you're talking about. it sounds like its more than an adapter, has a card as part of it too. Is this thing for either kind of device, ? meaning, you can plug the IDE side into an IDE device in order to adapt it to a SCSI connection as well as put the SCSI side on a SCSI device and plug it onto an IDE connection? or is it one way only? pickle says its 5.25 in wide. so it's sized with the assumption built in that it's gonna be put on the back of a device 5.25 wide, like a CD ROM drive or a DVD drive or a big hard drive. and will need the corresponding space in the back to fit it wherever its gonna be used. like a wide tower case, a largish external case, or a desktop with room to spread out. please clarify about one way or two way. does it care which side gets the ribbon and which side goes into the device? anyone got a link so i can see what one looks like? and price? Janet http://community.webtv.net/mensabrains/BADCODE -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IDE to SCSI bridge [was CD ROM??]
At 03:01 -0800 on 30/01/03, flawed jai wrote: wait a minute. i'm getting confused. SCSI is wider than IDE. this bridge you're talking about. it sounds like its more than an adapter, has a card as part of it too. It has to. There's no way to simply pass the signals; they have to be converted. Is this thing for either kind of device, ? No. Check out http://www.acard.com/ -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IDE to SCSI bridge [was CD ROM??]
http://www.blackfire.com.au sells their ACARD SCSIDE BridgeSmart 5.25 SCSI case ARS2000 for $201 AUD. They used to sell just the converter card for connecting IDE/ATAPI devices to the SCSI bus. = Subatomic conspiracy group: The Free Mesons. (There are very few good jokes in quantum physics.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IDE to SCSI bridge [was CD ROM??]
At 18:20 -0800 on 30/01/03, Gregg Eshelman wrote: http://www.blackfire.com.au sells their ACARD SCSIDE BridgeSmart 5.25 SCSI case ARS2000 for $201 AUD. They used to sell just the converter card for connecting IDE/ATAPI devices to the SCSI bus. Jesus! You can buy it direct from ACARD for about US$30 less and without shipping from Australia too. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
CD rom???
I have a IIci w/o CD rom Drive , I would like to know if it is possible to make a IDE CD rom with it? thanks, jeff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD rom???
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:52:12 -0500 From: jsoderlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CD rom??? I have a IIci w/o CD rom Drive , I would like to know if it is possible to make a IDE CD rom with it? There are no IDE controllers for the IIci (NuBus IDE controller), so there isn't really any way to get and IDE bus on the IIci, so the answer is mostly 'no'. However, there is a company that builds an IDE to SCSI bridge. This is a card/plate which plugs into an IDE drive and provides a SCSI connection. It is marketed for hard drives, but you may wish to investigate it and see if it would work with CDROM drives. However, by the time you purchased one, it would be cheaper to just get a SCSI CDROM drive. Jeff Walther -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD rom???
At 16:29 -0600 on 29/01/03, Jeff Walther wrote: However, there is a company that builds an IDE to SCSI bridge. This is a card/plate which plugs into an IDE drive and provides a SCSI connection. It is marketed for hard drives, but you may wish to It works with any SCSI device (well, almost any - there are probably some tape drives that it doesn't like) but requires *at least* a 5.25 drive bay to work, which makes it suitable primarily for CD-ROMs and hard disks in Macs with room to spare, or very large external cases. investigate it and see if it would work with CDROM drives. However, by the time you purchased one, it would be cheaper to just get a SCSI CDROM drive. By about US$75, yes. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD rom???
--- jsoderlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a IIci w/o CD rom Drive , I would like to know if it is possible to make a IDE CD rom with it? thanks, jeff Yes, using an external SCSI case and a SCSI to IDE convertor. But that will cost way more than the IIci is worth. ;) But for some people cost doesn't matter. Better off to find an 8x to 12x SCSI CD-ROM drive and an external case to put it in. = Subatomic conspiracy group: The Free Mesons. (There are very few good jokes in quantum physics.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
can i do this with a IIFX? cd rom mod.
since we were talking about hacking up cases, discussing mark benson's'siamese twinned quad mod, I've been thinking again about a question i conjectured about here, early in the year: the IIfx was built to hold two floppie drives on the 'drive balcony'. both of mine have only one floppie drive in them. is there any reason i couldn't modify the case and open a larger space where the left hand floppie drive is designed to go, and mount a low speed cd-rom unit there instead? would I just plug the usual 50 pin scsi flat ribbon cable and the 4 pin power supply plug into the logic board, same as the floppie was expected to be mounted? do i need to worry about IIfx termination? and if so, how would i handle it? what is the difference between doing that, and mounting a cd rom reader out the back in an external scsi 50 pin case? i am wondering about the bus speed, how the logic board receives the data and processes it, and whether the floppie ports were designed to handle a differnt kind of data flow than a cd rom unit would be outputting into the board? i know one can also mount a second hard drive in that space, as well as mount it externally in a case just like i could an external cd-rom drive. it seems that a second hard drive would take the same innoccuuos steps, plugging in the 50 pin ribbon cable and the 4 pin power supply to the board. does the logic board care what is plugged into that 50 pin internal ribbon cable? do i assume that i can't use a faster cd rom unit, such as a 4x, 12x, or higher, in that space, for reasons of the IIfx bus speed? what's the corresspondence between the bus speed and the cd rom speed it can handle? if it would be ok to mount a 1x or 2x cd rom reader in that second floppie space, the way I have envisioned doing it, I'd like to know. I don't mind cutting into the case and making a cd bezel opening there. i think it would vastly improve the IIfx to have cd rom readers retrofitted in them. get technical with me if you want to. the more i comprehend, the better it makes me feel. i can follow just about anything. or i can study up more till i do. is there any reason i can't do this or ought'nt? or things to watch out for and absolutley sure of? janet http://community.webtv.net/mensabrains/BADCODE http://www.anybrowser.org -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: can i do this with a IIFX? cd rom mod.
theres a pic on www.applefritters.com of a SE/30 with a cdrom hacked into the case. dont know if that might help... m flawed jai wrote: since we were talking about hacking up cases, discussing mark benson's'siamese twinned quad mod, I've been thinking again about a question i conjectured about here, early in the year: the IIfx was built to hold two floppie drives on the 'drive balcony'. both of mine have only one floppie drive in them. is there any reason i couldn't modify the case and open a larger space where the left hand floppie drive is designed to go, and mount a low speed cd-rom unit there instead? would I just plug the usual 50 pin scsi flat ribbon cable and the 4 pin power supply plug into the logic board, same as the floppie was expected to be mounted? do i need to worry about IIfx termination? and if so, how would i handle it? -- iriXx www.iriXx.org copyleft: creativity, technology and freedom? [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.copyleftmedia.org.uk _ ( ) ascii ribbon against html email X / \cat /dev/sda1 /dev/dsp all your base are belong to us -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: can i do this with a IIFX? cd rom mod.
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: since we were talking about hacking up cases, discussing mark benson's'siamese twinned quad mod, I've been thinking again about a question i conjectured about here, early in the year: the IIfx was built to hold two floppie drives on the 'drive balcony'. both of mine have only one floppie drive in them. is there any reason i couldn't modify the case and open a larger space where the left hand floppie drive is designed to go, and mount a low speed cd-rom unit there instead? would I just plug the usual 50 pin scsi flat ribbon cable and the 4 pin power supply plug into the logic board, same as the floppie was expected to be mounted? do i need to worry about IIfx termination? and if so, how would i handle it? No problem at all! Mine's running fine with an internal CD-ROM (TEAC 32x), which is perfectly bootable with an appropriate CD. However, my point was the one that additional features shouldn't reduce any of the IIfx's original abilities (Double Floppy). I therefore positioned the CD-ROM below the HD (there's lot of space if you have half-height RAM), with a slight modification of the balcony. So, the CD-ROM faces to the right side, just above the Restart/Reset-Button. A fitting opening has to be cut into this side to insert the drive, but if you don't mind doing so, you'll have an elegant solution. The drive is hooked to the same internal SCSI-cable as the HD, with a different id set, of course. Let me know, if you're in need of more advice. Very sincerely Steff -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:vintage.macs;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:vintage.macs-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:vintage.macs-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sanyo CDR-93 2 speed external SCSI cd-rom drive
Try DriverGuide.com Gerard Tripptree wrote: I need a software driver for the following ancient external cd -rom. Thank you. Sanyo CDR-93 2 speed external SCSI cd-rom drive. Also known as Sanyo crd-400e Thank you. - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Sanyo CDR-93 2 speed external SCSI cd-rom drive
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:40:16 -0400 Gerard Tripptree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a software driver for the following ancient external cd -rom. try this extension http://www.maximumdebian.org/mirrors/barabino.freeweb.supereva.it/risorse/cdrom76.hqx put it un extension sytem folder and replace the existant. reboot. ciao, MaX Thank you. Sanyo CDR-93 2 speed external SCSI cd-rom drive. Also known as Sanyo crd-400e Thank you. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Update Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
At 11:13 PM -0400 8/11/02, the pickle wrote: At 20:02 -0700 on 11/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: I connected it to my 7300 this morning and apparently the Pioneer control panel can't see anything on the secondary SCSI bus. Bummer. Next step will be to try it on the Power IIci and see if it works with the single SCSI bus on it. Can any of the 3rd party disk drivers handle CD changers? None of the ones I tried when I had one of these hooked up to a Q650 could... I used an NEC 7 CD drive with my WGS80 server using FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit. It worked well enough but at various times it would cycle through all 7 CD-ROMs which took a couple of minutes. Very annoying. I've since replaced that server and drive with a 7500 and a 60Gb IDE drive. Instead of serving CD-ROMs I store image files of them on the HD, mount them as volumes on the server and serve them on the network. I can serve a lot more than 7 CDs this way and they are much faster too. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
cd rom player
How fast a cd rom player can a vintage Mac handle? I've a IIfx, a IIci, a Quad 700 and a Quad 840av. I've got 2 cd rom players (one sits inside the Quad 840av), but I'm not very much inpressed by the speed of this beast... The 840av itself is pleasantly speedy, but the cd player is slow. Copying the contents over ethernet goes faster... That just doesn't seem right to me. Marten -- -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: cd rom player
--- Marten van de Kraats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How fast a cd rom player can a vintage Mac handle? I've a IIfx, a IIci, a Quad 700 and a Quad 840av. I've got 2 cd rom players (one sits inside the Quad 840av), but I'm not very much inpressed by the speed of this beast... The 840av itself is pleasantly speedy, but the cd player is slow. Copying the contents over ethernet goes faster... That just doesn't seem right to me. The cd-rom's maximum speed will 150 kps times it's rated max. So if it is a 4x cd-rom, then it's maximum transfer rate is 600 kilobytes per second. 10baseT Ethernet is generally has a greater transfer rate than older cd-roms up to about 8x. In addition, the Mac file system is somewhat inefficient, especially on cd-roms. The OS may need to seek around the cd-rom, which is very slow (up to 1 second average seek time on older CD-ROMS). When you move the contents to the hard drive, then do the copy, you are drastically decreasing the seek times and probably increasing the transfer rate from the drive. At that point, the network connection would be the bottleneck. = - Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
I just got a Pioneer DRM-604X, which is an external 4x, 6 disc, SCSI CD-ROM changer. :) Unfortunately whomever is in charge of driver software at Pioneer uploaded the Mac driver as a .sea file instead of a plain stuffit archive or .hqx or .bin encoding it. :( I've tried to download it from here http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/ServiceAndSupport/SelfHelpForIndDet/1,1457,1347,00.html but it always loses the resource fork, and of course SEA files minus resfork equal an unextractable archive. Anyone know of another source for the driver or might have success downloading it from the Pioneer site? I want to use this changer. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
try Compact Pro it's a HUGE 165kb ;) you can download it here http://www.eskimo.com/~pristine/compen.html#cpt Al Gregg Eshelman wrote: I just got a Pioneer DRM-604X, which is an external 4x, 6 disc, SCSI CD-ROM changer. :) Unfortunately whomever is in charge of driver software at Pioneer uploaded the Mac driver as a .sea file instead of a plain stuffit archive or .hqx or .bin encoding it. :( I've tried to download it from here http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/ServiceAndSupport/SelfHelpForIndDet/1,1457,1347,00.html but it always loses the resource fork, and of course SEA files minus resfork equal an unextractable archive. Anyone know of another source for the driver or might have success downloading it from the Pioneer site? I want to use this changer. :) -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
--- Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The file will unstuff using stuffit deluxe 5.5 on Basilisk I'll send it to you if you'd like, changed to a sit file. Dont think its a .sea file, try renaming it. Someone else sent it to me already. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
Looks like the Pioneer DRM-604X will have to find a home connected to one of my Macs, assuming it works with 7.6.1 or 9.1. :) My PC's SCSI controller identifies it as a DRM-600. MS totally screwed up how changers work in 2K and XP. :P ATAPI/IDE ones show as a single drive only and you have to jump through hoops to make them change discs. SCSI changers show as multiple drives but refuse to load any discs. :P Nobody seems the least bit eager to fix it either. :( If it won't work on my Macintoshi I'll have to fob it off on someone running Win9x (where it will work properly like six CD-ROMs) or someone running an olde enough Mac System. :) Or I may see if there's a way to make it work as a standalone 6 disc changer for playing audio CDs and jack it into my entertainment system. Hmmm, I wonder if the reserved DIP switch is actually a test switch? All SCSI CD type drives I've seen have a test jumper that when closed makes them start playing an audio CD when loaded. Quickly hit the eject button to skip to the next track. Make use of an olde 1X or 2X drive that way. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
Looks like the Pioneer DRM-604X will have to find a home connected to one of my Macs, assuming it works with 7.6.1 or 9.1. :) My PC's SCSI controller identifies it as a DRM-600. MS totally screwed up how changers work in 2K and XP. :P ATAPI/IDE ones show as a single drive only and you have to jump through hoops to make them change discs. SCSI changers show as multiple drives but refuse to load any discs. :P I think the behaviour is vendor dependant. My ATAPI changer (Nec 4x4) had 4 driveletters, which is why I kicked it out of the computer and gave it away:-) Each time My Computer or another drive selection window came up, it iterated through all driveletters. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
At 12:22 AM -0700 8/11/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: I just got a Pioneer DRM-604X, which is an external 4x, 6 disc, SCSI CD-ROM changer. :) Unfortunately whomever is in charge of driver software at Pioneer uploaded the Mac driver as a .sea file instead of a plain stuffit archive or .hqx or .bin encoding it. :( I've tried to download it from here http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/ServiceAndSupport/SelfHelpForIndDet/1,1457,1347,00.html but it always loses the resource fork, and of course SEA files minus resfork equal an unextractable archive. Anyone know of another source for the driver or might have success downloading it from the Pioneer site? I want to use this changer. :) Try running the file through Stuffit Expander. I know you can do this with SEAs that are created with StuffIt. It may work on just the data fork since this is usually where the archive is. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Update Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
I connected it to my 7300 this morning and apparently the Pioneer control panel can't see anything on the secondary SCSI bus. Bummer. Next step will be to try it on the Power IIci and see if it works with the single SCSI bus on it. Can any of the 3rd party disk drivers handle CD changers? = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Update Re: CD-ROM changer driver for Mac
At 20:02 -0700 on 11/08/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote: I connected it to my 7300 this morning and apparently the Pioneer control panel can't see anything on the secondary SCSI bus. Bummer. Next step will be to try it on the Power IIci and see if it works with the single SCSI bus on it. Can any of the 3rd party disk drivers handle CD changers? None of the ones I tried when I had one of these hooked up to a Q650 could... -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Stacking CD-ROM Drives
Hi again, I have another question regarding the set-up of my Mac IIci. I have two external CD-ROM drives. They are Apple 600e drives, and are quite big. I was wondering if I could stack them on top of each other, as there is no room for both on my computer desk. If so, would this cause interferance in the operation of one or the other? Thanks, DeVaul -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stacking CD-ROM Drives
At 08:31 -0400 on 15/07/02, DeVaul wrote: I have another question regarding the set-up of my Mac IIci. I have two external CD-ROM drives. They are Apple 600e drives, and are quite big. I was wondering if I could stack them on top of each other, as there is no room for both on my computer desk. Can't think of why it wouldn't work... the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there was any way to use a PC CD Rom on a IIci? The discs or the drives? For the discs you need extentions like foreign file access, ISO 9660, High Sierra, all the ones in the Apple CD driver setup. Plus you should have PC-Exchange installed too. For Joliet CDs with long filenames there's a freeware extention at http://www.tempel.org/joliet That will display the first 31 characters of any Windows LFN instead of the mish-mash the Mac will make of them. For pre OS 8.x with contextual menus, it comes with a control strip module for manually switching the read mode on Joliet CDs should you really want to view them as ISO 9660. Trivia question! How did the High Sierra CD-ROM format get its name? As for the drives, if it's SCSI it'll work, as long as it's plain old narrow SCSI. Other types of SCSI aren't common on CD-ROM drives. IDE drives can be adapted with an IDE to SCSI converter. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
--- Scott Holder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I've read the ATAPI addition to the IDE bus is very similar to SCSI. It's why the SCSI emulation under Linux works as well as the ease with which IDE devices can be used as SCSI devices on the various PC Mac emulators. I haven't read anything on what that means on the hardware side of things. That's why ATAPI devices are handled via an ASPI (Advanced SCSI Programming Interface) driver in Windows.) For best results you need to install a bus master driver from the motherboard's chipset vendor that makes ATAPI devices show up by name instead of just generic. Then you can directly access and init an IDE hard drive with Basilisk II, but do so at your own risk and it'll only work with one partition for some reason. (And only one HFS partition, no other types on it. Haven't tried HFS+ with 040 emulation mode yet.) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
CD Rom ????
I was wondering if there was any way to use a PC CD Rom on a IIci? jes -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
Yeah... Any system above 7.5.3 should see it alright. Marten On donderdag, april 11, 2002, at 02:14 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there was any way to use a PC CD Rom on a IIci? jes -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
What if it is IDE ? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 01:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if it is IDE ? If it is an IDE CD-ROM drive you can buy a SCSI adapter or housing from ACARD (I don't know who your local supplier would be) which will allow you to use and IDE CD-ROM on hard disk on a Mac. They are not cheap though. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
I thought you meant the discs, now you are talking about the actual device IDE should be possible using a converter. Those scsi-to-ide converters are pretty common. Modern external scsi device often have ide stuff on the inside. On donderdag, april 11, 2002, at 02:20 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if it is IDE ? Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
Thanks! jes - Original Message - From: Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vintage Macs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:38 PM Subject: Re: CD Rom On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 01:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if it is IDE ? If it is an IDE CD-ROM drive you can buy a SCSI adapter or housing from ACARD (I don't know who your local supplier would be) which will allow you to use and IDE CD-ROM on hard disk on a Mac. They are not cheap though. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
At 20:20 -0400 on 10/04/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if it is IDE ? You could get an $89 card to make it into SCSI, or you could buy a SCSI CD-ROM for $10 on eBay... the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
At 02:40 +0200 on 11/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: converters are pretty common. Modern external scsi device often have ide stuff on the inside. Marten, are you OK? You've been making a lot of posts that haven't made any sense or had any grounding in reality lately... Modern external SCSI devices are nearly *universally* SCSI-based. Modern *FireWire* devices are universally IDE. But that's WAY OT for this list. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
On donderdag, april 11, 2002, at 02:47 , the pickle wrote: At 02:40 +0200 on 11/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: converters are pretty common. Modern external scsi device often have ide stuff on the inside. Marten, are you OK? You've been making a lot of posts that haven't made any sense or had any grounding in reality lately... Modern external SCSI devices are nearly *universally* SCSI-based. My dealer told me that story about the external scsi devices. I supposed he was right. I think I am OK. Marten -- Check out the System 6 Heaven: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html Subscribe to the LEM system6 list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
At 02:58 +0200 on 11/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: My dealer told me that story about the external scsi devices. I supposed he was right. I think I am OK. Mebbe it's your dealer who's been hitting the pipe again ... tell him to stay away from that part of Amsterdam ;) the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
the pickle wrote: My dealer told me that story about the external scsi devices. I supposed he was right. Mebbe it's your dealer who's been hitting the pipe again ... tell him to stay away from that part of Amsterdam ;) I'd suggest you'd require another substance before you'd believe it. :) To keep on topic- http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,50820,00.html -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD Rom ????
At 09:02 PM 4/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: At 02:58 +0200 on 11/04/02, Marten van de Kraats wrote: My dealer told me that story about the external scsi devices. I supposed he was right. I think I am OK. Mebbe it's your dealer who's been hitting the pipe again ... tell him to stay away from that part of Amsterdam ;) the pickle From what I've read the ATAPI addition to the IDE bus is very similar to SCSI. It's why the SCSI emulation under Linux works as well as the ease with which IDE devices can be used as SCSI devices on the various PC Mac emulators. I haven't read anything on what that means on the hardware side of things. Scott Holder -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question
--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:20 -0700 on 07/04/02, Teri Pittman wrote: I take it that the best way to add a modem to a IIci is to get an external Try only way. The one NuBus modem I've ever seen was 2400bps. Also, about adding a CD, I'm guessing I would want an external SCSI CD. Uh-huh. Without doing some very severe re-engineering of the chassis, there's no way you'll ever get a CD-ROM inside it. Make a spacer to fit between the lid and the case. Step the top edge in to mimic the top edge of the case. Some sheet metal should work. Any heating and air conditioning shop should be able to make up the spacer and roll the top edge to make the step. Then it'd need some internal bracketry to support the CD-ROM drive. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question
At 04:30 PM 04/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: Make a spacer to fit between the lid and the case. Step the top edge in to mimic the top edge of the case. Some sheet metal should work. Any heating and air conditioning shop should be able to make up the spacer and roll the top edge to make the step. Not unless I'm gonna put fins and chrome headlights on it too *grin*! Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] New and improved site: http://www.xws.com/terispage/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question
--- Teri Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:30 PM 04/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: Make a spacer to fit between the lid and the case. Step the top edge in to mimic the top edge of the case. Some sheet metal should work. Any heating and air conditioning shop should be able to make up the spacer and roll the top edge to make the step. Not unless I'm gonna put fins and chrome headlights on it too *grin*! Teri Pittman If you don't want to use metal, there's various types of plastic sheet that's thick enough for the job. :) = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cd-rom identification help.
--- James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CR-507-C is a Matsushita-made, Apple-branded 12X SCSI CD-ROM drive. The CR-506-C is a 8X drive used in the 8500s. Logically, I'd guess it's a 4X drive in the same series. The 507 and 506 actually specify the speed on the drive label. It's odd the 505 doesn't. What's odd is the evaluation tag on the lable. Could be an engineering sample sent out for testing. I've chatted on IRC with a guy who works in the testing lab at Micron in Boise, ID. They get to play with all the latest computer goodies before us peons even hear about them! (Yes, even Mac stuff.) At one time he mentioned a Super Cube, the samples of which they'd recieved had a problem with one of the RAM slots not working properly. Apparently with the dismal sales of the original Cube, Apple decided to shelve the Super Cube. Micron recieved eight engineering samples of the Cube, then bought eight more of the shipping version, which was identical to the ES version so they didn't bother to do much testing on them. = http://www.junkscience.com All the Junk that's fit to Debunk! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cd-rom identification help.
At 10:22 -0500 on 29/03/02, John Carrell Swanson wrote: Any body know what speed the apple CR-505-C Evaluation model cd-rom dirve is. I doubt anybody will but felt like asking. Any other identifying information? Like a copyright date, or anything? My preliminary guess is 2x, but it *might* be 4x. the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cd-rom identification help.
It is copyrighted 1996. Firmware 6.0D At 10:22 -0500 on 29/03/02, John Carrell Swanson wrote: Any body know what speed the apple CR-505-C Evaluation model cd-rom dirve is. I doubt anybody will but felt like asking. Any other identifying information? Like a copyright date, or anything? My preliminary guess is 2x, but it *might* be 4x. the pickle -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Cd-rom identification help.
The CR-507-C is a Matsushita-made, Apple-branded 12X SCSI CD-ROM drive. The CR-506-C is a 8X drive used in the 8500s. Logically, I'd guess it's a 4X drive in the same series. The 507 and 506 actually specify the speed on the drive label. It's odd the 505 doesn't. Have you tried using it? The Apple System Profiler (or, Mt Everything or SCSI Probe) should give you the Matsushita model number, which you *may* be able to get info on from the Panasonic web pages. On Monday, April 1, 2002, at 06:55 AM, John Carrell Swanson wrote: It is copyrighted 1996. Firmware 6.0D At 10:22 -0500 on 29/03/02, John Carrell Swanson wrote: Any body know what speed the apple CR-505-C Evaluation model cd-rom dirve is. I doubt anybody will but felt like asking. Any other identifying information? Like a copyright date, or anything? My preliminary guess is 2x, but it *might* be 4x. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Thin SCSI CD-ROM drives.
Toshiba used to make a 1/3 height tray load SCSI CD-ROM drive for desktop systems. I've seen them in Beige with a filler plate bolted on top or in combination with a slim 1.44M floppy. One surplus dealer had a pile of them without the filler plate in Sun Purple. I know they came in a 2x speed, probably a 4x speed too. They are sort of like a laptop drive, the tray isn't powered and the CD snaps onto the spindle. So if they came in a 4x version they might be just the thing for hacking into an old Compact Mac. :) = The earth swarms with inhabitants. Why then should nature, which is fruitful to an excess here, be so very barren in the rest of the planets? Bernard de Fontenelle, 1686 [EMAIL PROTECTED] My ICQ# 16024947 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci External CD-ROM
on 9/18/01 1:55 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a good source for an external CD-ROM drive for my IIci? The machine is in great shape, but I'd like to upgrade some of the six year old software, as well as the system, and it seems like a CD-ROM will be a requirement. Any words of advice would be appreciated. Regards, Mark Reed-Edwards Check Ebay or LEMSwap for an Apple CD SC. Yes, it's the tray-loading kind in the big case. I've had one for some time now and it works great. They can usually be had for $20 or less. -Though I recently saw one go for $61 on Ebay! At first I thought it was probably because the seller employed a real used car salesman type pitch detailing why no one should be without this piece of vintage eqipment. But there's really not that much to his listing, except for two big, good pictures. The mind boggles... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1268167987 Anyway, here's one on Ebay where they want $14.99 for Buy It Now: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1275497877 -- Amber Rhea [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. - Desiderata, Marx Ehrmann -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIci External CD-ROM
on 9/18/01 5:41 PM, Amber Rhea at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a good source for an external CD-ROM drive for my IIci? The machine is in great shape, but I'd like to upgrade some of the six year old software, as well as the system, and it seems like a CD-ROM will be a requirement. Any words of advice would be appreciated. Regards, Mark Reed-Edwards Check Ebay or LEMSwap for an Apple CD SC. Yes, it's the tray-loading kind Oops, make that the caddy-loading kind. -- *** Amber Rhea *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tangerinecs.com/~amber For great justice -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
IIsi external CD-ROM problems
Hi, Well I have this external Apple CD-ROM player which is not being recognized be my IIsi. I've used the same driver on a SE-30 with no problems. Thoughts? Thanks, Anand -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
